Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
I'll go for the KISS for sure agreeing also to Twisted Sister, Motley Crue and a host of metal neometal stuff but early Diamond was just plain fun, entertaining rock roll. Forget anything he's done since the Bang years however. Twang wise this is probably in the Michael Bolton realm - Billy Ray Cyrus. Iceman Geff King wrote: On the other hand...how much damage would it do to eradicate Jimmy Webb? or Neil Diamond? Or KISS? -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
RE: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
Twang wise this is probably in the Michael Bolton realm - Billy Ray Cyrus. No way. The boy from Flatwoods has done his penance and made some pretty good records. I really do lack the bloodlust to annihilate, as Kelly put it. There was a time in my life when I was very concerned about music I didn't like, but the more time goes by, the less I find myself getting worked up over it, even for idle pastime. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Re[2]: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
JC: Let's see, hose...Meat Loaf, David Soul, Ambrosia, Leif Garrett, Tiffany. Meat Loaf stays. If he goes, we lose "Rocky Horror Picture Show". No way are we losing that. marie
Re: Blimey! - March's MOJO
Louise asked about Scotty Moore and Bob says Moore briefly played at Chicago's Blues Fest last year. My expectations were low but I thought he was still pretty good. OTOH, I got to see one song; I make no promises about a longer set. But as with the Merle Haggard question earlier this week, it's worth going just to see these people while we can. Not only that, but it's worth going to see them because they NEED people to go see them. Dina
Jeff Lynne (was Re: Production-- Ralph Emery's take on this thread)
Will Miner wrote: I know we've been focusing, or trying to, on producers of twang, but I've been surprised that no one's mentioned Jeff Lynne, one of the most wretched of the wretched. No matter what the lineup of the band or their style, after going through his meat grinder they all sound the same, with the limp but loud drums and those horrendous drive-by backing vocals with all the life compressed out of them. Jeez. And otherwise relatively sane people hire him, just like Spector. Michael Berick replied: I must chime in and agree here about Jeff Lynne - particularly with the godawful synth bath production jobs he did to Dave Edmunds back in the early 80's. I think we even got Lynne-defender Jerry Curry to sorta kinda agree to the truth of his mishandling of Dave Edmunds best sound on those two records, though he maintained those were still big sellers for DE. And Dave was often twangy- it was great material for him, and he did it well. Thing is, Dave's been trying to make a comeback ever since those Lynne-produced releases. b.s. "The truth ain't always what we need, sometimes we need to hear a beautiful lie." -Bill Lloyd
Re: Re[2]: The Eradication Game
Eradicate any act contained on the _Rushmore_ soundtrack. g Liked the movie alright, but loved the soundtrack. Man, Mark Mothersbaugh sure dug out some damn obscure *gems* for that movie. I've got to pick that soundtrack up along with: Little Voice and now, 200 Cigarettes. Viva le' retroand off to the store for more soundtracks than I've bought in a long while. Gotta go, got a date with my curling irons mousse. Jerry
Re: Jeff Lynne
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Bill Silvers wrote: I think we even got Lynne-defender Jerry Curry to sorta kinda agree to the truth of his mishandling of Dave Edmunds best sound on those two records, though he maintained those were still big sellers for DE. And Dave was often twangy- it was great material for him, and he did it well. Thing is, Dave's been trying to make a comeback ever since those Lynne-produced releases. Hmm, as card-carrying member #1 (hey, where'd everybody else go?) of the Jeff Lynne fan club...I've got to rise to his defense here and.."oh, forget it, too damn tired!" I like him even though insert very low whisper there was a certain "sameness". However, it's a sameness that I have always found to be pleasing to these ears. And YES!I found _Information_ to be a wonderful departure for Mr. Edmunds. I'll admit that I wouldn't be nearly as fond of Dave E. if each/every album had sounded like that one. NP: Jeff Lynne - Armchair Theater - Really! Jerry
Re: Jeff Lynne
If you get rid of Jeff Lynne then don't you then have to get rid of The Traveling Wilbury's? No way. -Original Message- From: Jerry Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 12:07 AM Subject: Re: Jeff Lynne On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Bill Silvers wrote: I think we even got Lynne-defender Jerry Curry to sorta kinda agree to the truth of his mishandling of Dave Edmunds best sound on those two records, though he maintained those were still big sellers for DE. And Dave was often twangy- it was great material for him, and he did it well. Thing is, Dave's been trying to make a comeback ever since those Lynne-produced releases. Hmm, as card-carrying member #1 (hey, where'd everybody else go?) of the Jeff Lynne fan club...I've got to rise to his defense here and.."oh, forget it, too damn tired!" I like him even though insert very low whisper there was a certain "sameness". However, it's a sameness that I have always found to be pleasing to these ears. And YES!I found _Information_ to be a wonderful departure for Mr. Edmunds. I'll admit that I wouldn't be nearly as fond of Dave E. if each/every album had sounded like that one. NP: Jeff Lynne - Armchair Theater - Really! Jerry
Re: Arbitrary Stars (Was: Re: Repost: 50/90)
We journalists are not in the music business, we're *covering* the music business. Well, at least that's how the oft-referenced Greg Kot positioned himself during a panel at lat year's (?) SXSW. Neal Weiss A good read between the lines quote, I might add. I've seen more journalistic credibility from the small, local music newspapers than I see in such "acclaimed" journals as Rolling Stone, Country Music, Guitar, Jazz Is. It's as though the journalists/reviewers are starry-eyed "groupies", much in the tradition of Circus magazine or that old Tiger Beat. One very good example is Rolling Stone. Except for Christgau who occasionally enchants with his bursts of analytical insight, I'm often left with complete wonderment as to whether or not the reviewer really liked the album in question. They tend to teeter the line of like/dislike and the innuendo is often that he or she didn't like the album but that they just do not come out and say so. I liked RS better when they had the guts to print a boot to Exile On Main Street. You just don't see that much anymore in the way of honest opinion. I cannot give much credibility to Mr. Kott for example, who seems to attach a "neutralized barb" to his wiriting and then happily wanders back into mainstream appeal. It just gives me the impression that he doesn't want to make any enemies and at the same time he cloaks his true feelings. That is not reviewing and it is not honest. What I also think is that some time ago some of the critics who became noteworthy for their insight strove so valiently to be perceived as intellectually aesthetic that they over extended their "brilliant" and nuanced opinions with the general population to the point that people no longer perceived their written perceptions as valid. A critic in my honest opinion is writing for the public, not for the recording industry or the artists. Did all of this change around the time that Landau abandoned the credibility ship and joined the country goes pop twaing Or is it deeper than that? I suspect that it is. Tera
critics
Since there has been some discussion about critics lately I was wondering who you all considered to be the most respected and influential critic to be. Doesn't have to be current. Flippo
Re: Ringo
Looks like I have a good chance on interviewing Ringo and trying to get ready. Anyone have any ideas on "different" questions to ask him other than the same old crap? Thanks in advance for any tips, I have a feeling I will have to remind myself to not drool, so I want to be really prepared. Nancy Is it true he took tins of baked beans with him when they went to stay with the Maharishi in India? And did he realy say that the M's place was just like Butlin's? -- Iain Noble Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy, 28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
Yes. No? -- Iain Noble Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy, 28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Playlist KOOP New American Roots Music 2/26/99
The New American Roots Music Show is heard Fridays from 9 to 10 AM on KOOP, Austin, Texas 91.7FM. It focuses on new releases and recent re-issues in country, bluegrass,folk, blues, cajun, zydeco and whatever else fits. Way to much new stuff this week to fit into an hour. The Biller Wakefield is sure to satisfy fans of guitar twang and fans of RL Burnside should definitely check Clarence Brewer. Hey Hightone was two for two this week. g Any questions contact me off list. Jim Artist/Song/Album Bill Matte/Restless Night/Zydeco, Blues Boogie (intro) Lone Justice/Shelter/This World Is Not My Home Kelly Willis/Time Has Told Me/What I Deserve Damnations TX/Spit Tears/Half Mad Moon Cesar Rosas/Angelito/Soul Disguise Iguanas/Latin Kings/Sugar Town Biller Wakefield/Night In Topeka/The Hot Guitars Of... Boozoo Chavis/Baby Please Don't Go/Who Stole My Monkey Gibson Bros./Another Night Of Waiting/Another Night Of Waiting Steve Earle The Del McCoury Band/Paddy On The Beat/The Mountain Powell/O'Brien/Herrmann/Skillet Good And Greasy/Songs From The Mountain Hillbilly Idol/Mind To Change/Town Country Del McCoury Band/Look Of A Perfect Diamond/The Family Rosie Flores/'59 Tweedle Dee/Dancehall Dreams Hadacol/Pappy/Better Than This Clarence Brewer/Bed Spring Boogie/King Clarentz Foster Lloyd/Whoa/Version Of The Truth
Hellcountry/Bourbonaires
I didn't get a chance to thank Stacey Taylor before I headed out last night, but last night's Hellcountry gig was a hoot. I got the impression from her that the attendance was the best they've seen so far. Maybe the recent mentions in the Herald, the Globe, and "Country Standard Time" have had some good effect? We were particularly pleased with the audience reaction. Hellcountry audiences clearly know good music when they hear it. ;-) For those of you in the New York City area, we (the Bourbonaires) will also be playing next Saturday night (3/6/99) at the Rodeo Bar in Manhattan with another local rockabilly act, the Raging Teens. Come on down if you can make it. Thanks again, Miss Stacey. The local scene won't be the same without you. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts
1998 P2 SURVEY
Stacey is very busy moving and has asked me to post this to y'all. Hope it's of interest. pete -- The World's First P2 Demographic Self-Survey: Who ARE We? mail\p2 survey98-1.tab Stacey set-up the user friendly survey form on the Hellcountry URL in November and invited all P2ers to fill it out. She also got the returns into computer-ready form. Pete Peterson offered to help analyze and present the results, and Bruce Beal has done most of the number crunching. Here's what we have found. According to Don Yates there were 715-725 people on the list in December. Stacey got 173 usable responses - not bad for this free spirited bunch. Some of us read all the mail surely, but most use one or another devise to speed through skimming for what's of interest, and some are deep water lurkers that just won't rise for any bait. Anyway, here's who we (173) are. 26% female, 73% male, 1% uncommitted. the youngest is 19 and the oldest 65 the average age is 35, 32 for women, 37 for men. the age distribution is as follows: 12% - 25 13% 26-30 29% 31-35 19% 36-40 14% 41-45 7% 46-50 5% 51 - 1% ageless marital status 42% single 11% living in long-term relationships 40% married 6% separated, divorced 1% can't tell 32% have one or more kids living at home. the average number of kids for those with kids is slightly under two and no one has more than three. As for ethnicity, 76% white 0% African American 10% other 14% none The regional dispersion is dramatic. CA and TX have 14 respondents, IL 12, TN 10, MA 9, MO, NY, VA, and WA 8, OR 7, GA and PA 6, etc. on down. 4 are in Canada or the United Kingdom, and only 2 of the remaining non-US respondents are from non English-speaking countries. Of those responding to the question, 47% wear glasses, and there is no association between glasses and gender. Just 15% are single white guys with glasses. Pets: 29% admit to no pets 19% have dogs 33% have cats 12% have cats and dogs there are fish and bird fanciers, etc. but far and away the next most frequent sort of pet after dogs and cats is reptiles at 5%. Contrary to the stereotype, there is no association between gender and the type of pet. Occupation is all over the place and we haven't coded it. 18% confess to being "industry weasels" Now here's a thread-starter for you, of the 143 who stated their astrological sign, one would expect each month to have 12 respondents if an equal number of kids are born each month. Not so in our group. There are 23 Gemini, 20 Libra, 16 Sagittarius, and 14 Taurus. Among the clearly under represented are Virgo and Cancer with 9, Pisces 7, Aquarius 6 and Aries 5. Is this strange? What is it about Geminis? Should we recruit Aries people. Perhaps they're the ones that contributed the unusable responses. So much for the demographics, now for the four big attitude items: Which band/artist does the respondent LOVE that others love to hate? 16% said none or left this blank 5% said Springstein or Buckner 4% said Son Volt or Feakwater 2% said Eagles, Whiskytown, Ray Condo, SCOTS, or Marah 11 bands/artists got 2 votes (ranging from Black Sabbath to Vince Gill) 76 bands/artists got 1 vote Again, ALL over: Buck Owens, Prince, Paul Revere the Raiders, Lucinda Williams, Kinky Friedman, Trisha Yearwood, Poco) What band/artist makes you gag/yawn that P2'ers talk about constantly? This question got a more focused response. 16% again said none or left this blank 7% said Son Volt 6% said Lucinda Williams 5% said the Gourds or Buckner 4% said Whiskeytown, Vince Gill, Wilco, or Freakwater 3% said Uncle Tupelo or Garth Brooks 2% said Dale Watson, Gillian Welch, Cheri Knight, the Derailers, Bottle Rockets, or Robbie Fulks 8 bands/artists/genres got two votes including Nashville Country and Billy Bragg to Bluegrass and Steve Earl 30 bands/artists/ genres received one vote. The overlaps between these two lists suggests the best way to provoke a debate is to mention Buckner or Freakwater. Finally, what's fluf? Or WHAT ISN'T!!! What is your favorite fluffy thread? 41% said "none!" 4% said "all" 21% said food 9% named specific P2ers 4% said Twangfest 4% said sports 4% mentioned specific music groups 2% said music related gear 2% said alcohol 6% gave other specific responses The corresponding responses to the question: What fluffy tread do you hate the most? were: 5% said "none" 6% said "all" 6% said food 8% named specific P2ers 5% said Twangfest 12% said sports 5% mentioned specific music groups 2% said music related gear 3% said alcohol 8% said politics - a topic not mentioned among the fluf loves 41% gave other specific responses. As with bands, our fluf loves are clearly more diverse, our hates
Wild Carnation (was: Re: Catching up)
Tom wrote: Do you know if they're still going? I haven't seen or heard anything from them since "tricycle," which came out on Delmore in 94 or 95. A real nice record, with a little hint of that wiggly Feelies vibe mixed in with some moody (and some pretty), indie-poppish songs. Graded up even more for having a song about baseball on it. I can take this one... I was talking to their drummer, Chris, the other day, and they are alive and well and in the process of doing demos for the next CD. They have a 7" out on Motorway Records (Japan) "Wild Carnation Live from Hamburg" and a similar German version that will be a 10" with 6 songs. (The Japanese version has only 4 songs.) Apparantly, the new songs are a bit harder edge than the last CD. Currently, they are "label-less" in the states, but the plan is to have the next CD out by early summer! I know that they've been playing out here and there in NJ NY, and recently they've done shows with Ira and Georgia from Yo Lo Tengo, James Mastro of The Health and Happiness Show, Dave Shramm of The Shramms and The Marquis Quartet (which is members from 2 Dollar Guitar, Das Damen, Splendora ~ The Wygals.) They'll be playing again on March 20th at Maxwells with Every Damn Daygo see 'em! Paul/Pop Booking
RE: 1998 P2 SURVEY
Cool. A big thank you to Stacey, Pete and Bruce... Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
Oh, yeah, forgot about that Joni Mitchell thing. Eradicating her would leave the world without "You Turn Me On I'm A Radio," hence without Gail Davies' fine first version of it (she recorded it again for her recent, misleadingly-named Greatest Hits), hence without Leland Sklar's impossibly beautiful bass part on that record. Besides, Blue is a fabulous album. Blue is an incredible record. It still moves me today the way it did 20 years ago. Every song is good, and some of them are spine-tinglingly so. Oops, gotta strap my skates on and head down that river. - Terry Smith ps eradicate Sawyer Brown. Now. Plus all the bands that name themselves after states, or state slogans, or Tennessee nuclear power plants.
Re: Production-- Ralph Emery's take on this thread
I must chime in here too, pointing out that my pal Michael Berick (MoMZine and ND contributor) has foolishly taken my advice and logged on to P2. Welcome MB. And to all you non Los Angelenos out there, this has got to at least prove that there's what, at least three, four or five cool folks that hail from this his region, right? Neal Weiss Um, yeah, sure, Neal. Uh-huh, right. -- Terry Smith
steve earle
If you are interested, Steve Earle won the Gibson Award for Best Male Acoustic Guitar Player. Seems like it was about a year ago when I said I thought Steve was one of the best guitar players in country music. I got flammed big time. Jon W. from Kentucky really disagreed with me. Oh well, nice to see someone finally agrees with me. tommy
Re: 1998 P2 SURVEY
Should we recruit Aries people?. Perhaps they're the ones that contributed the unusable responses... Rams can't twang. Not even standing up. Or while wearing glasses. Barry M. (This being P2, I'm sure a catalog of twanger Aries types will follow!) Seriously-- thanks to Stacey , Pete and everyone involved for the effort; this is interesting stuff...I know there are more from Canada and overseas than those few, but even there, the percentage would probably prove about right. Now, do we start marketing ourselves as an undepressed demographic group?
Re: Arbitrary Stars (Was: Re: Repost: 50/90)
In a message dated 2/27/99 3:29:26 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cannot give much credibility to Mr. Kott for example, who seems to attach a "neutralized barb" to his wiriting and then happily wanders back into mainstream appeal. It just gives me the impression that he doesn't want to make any enemies and at the same time he cloaks his true feelings. I'm pretty sure Kot is not one to cloak his true feelings. He puts his reputation on the line for some offbeat choices. I respect that. Also, he's been good about covering "stuff we like" as long as it's been around. Seems to like it, although he did tell me once that he does make a point to include at least one negative thing in every review in order to insure his credibility. That stuck with me as a question mark. It was in the context of a sort of off-hand coaching session in front of a loud stage and behind a couple cold ones, so probably would benefit from elaboration on his part. Disclosure: I don't talk to him much, and only at shows, but he has been super supportive and helpful to li'l me, with no particular need to be. I like that in a person. Linda
Re: 1998 P2 SURVEY
Yes, many thanks to stacey and pete for the survey. The one stat I didn't take away was: what percentage of P2ers responded? It would be nifty if the survey could be sent to everyone on the list, etc. But very interesting stuff in any case. Thanks much. --junior
RE: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote: I really do lack the bloodlust to annihilate, as Kelly put it. There was a time in my life when I was very concerned about music I didn't like, but the more time goes by, the less I find myself getting worked up over it, even for idle pastime. We all miss Roy Kasten too, Jon. -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Iain Noble wrote: Yes. No? PLEASE! -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
Re: Arbitrary Stars (Was: Re: Repost: 50/90)
In a message dated 2/27/99 3:29:26 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A critic in my honest opinion is writing for the public, not for the recording industry or the artists. Sometimes I think the best criticism is the stuff you write for yourself, trying to figure out why you feel what you feel and think what you think. The rest is consumer advice, not a bad thing in and of itself, in fact useful. I see a parallel there with music, kind of. Linda, still learning
Re: 1998 P2 SURVEY
"Peterson, Richard A" wrote: There are 23 Gemini, 20 Libra, 16 Sagittarius, and 14 Taurus. Among the clearly under represented are Virgo and Cancer with 9, Pisces 7, Aquarius 6 and Aries 5. Is this strange? What is it about Geminis? Should we recruit Aries people. Perhaps they're the ones that contributed the unusable responses. Well, Gemini's are the communicative types, so there's probably nothing better for them than joining a high volume mailing list. Librans are very sociable and like to get to know loads of people (which they are doing on P2) and Sagittarians are just bloody cool! Taurians are plodders and don't quit anything. Not sure about Aries though. They can be quite aggressive so maybe the high volume of P2 just makes them so angry that they have to unsubscribe g Very interesting stuff! Great job. Louise -- If you like rocking country music, check out the Okeh Wranglers web site at: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bluesmoke
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't say yes to Styx, cuz I must confesses to hours of pre-punk adolescent enjoyment derived from Grand Illusion. Yeah, Neal, but little kids eat bugs in the yard when they dont know better. Would you still defend it now that you're older and wiser? Will Miner Denver, CO
Learning To Love Country (WAS:The Eradication Game)
Lord help me, I'm about to agree with Jon Weisberger *and * stick up for Billy Ray Cyrus - ain't life goofy? There are a lot of themes in country, and some seem to export more readily to rock and other genres: yer drinking songs, yer cheating songs, yer trucking songs...But there's a solid tradition in country for the song that's so over the top melodramatic it's maudlin and -that's the point-. For me the thing to do with those songs is just go there. If you believe the singer at all, give them the benefit of the doubt and go there with them and see what happens. Sometimes this is easy: George Jones w/ "He Stopped Loving Her Today". Merle with "Always Wanting You". Sometimes you're a little surprised: Lorrie Morgan w/ "A Picture of Me (Without You). Reba McEntire w/ "The Last One To Know". Sometimes you just can't believe you're listening to it and it's working, and here I'd include Billy Ray Cyrus. I'm thinking of "Some Gave All" but I'm sure there are others he's done that hit home. My point here is that those big sappy weepers are a key part of country, a *great* part of country, and there are singers who can surprise you with what they bring to a weeper. Of course, there's the "My Eyes Remained Perfectly Dry As I Reached For The Volume Knob" category of singers (for me, Garth Brooks, Lee Greenwood, Kenny Rogers, the Wilkinsons, dozens more ...) Side note: Dale Watson valiantly sings his weepers here in Chicago even as the audience interest audibly and visibly dips. More power to him - "Ball Chain" tears me up. Kelly K http://www.bcity.com/texasrubies http://www.bcity.com/honkytonk
Re: Re[2]: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, marie arsenault wrote: Meat Loaf stays. If he goes, we lose "Rocky Horror Picture Show". No way are we losing that. That would be a good reason to nuke him. The only problem would be that then we would lose Susan Sarandon ... Will Miner Denver, CO
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
Carl Abraham Zimring wrote: Seriously, it seems to me the point of this exercise is to throw out an artist one despises and dare anyone to find artistic merit in it. Granted Ray Stevens is eons above, say Journey on the artistic scale. I however, have never liked him, and I particularly hate his novelty songs like Ahab the Arab and the Streak. By throwing his name out, I *want* to hear defenses of his work. Give me a reason to appreciate him, as I haven't found one yet Carl Z. How old were you when "Ahab the Arab" came out? I was a kid/teen and it was cooler than shit to us. Lots more goofy novelty stuff was on radio then and it was just more of the same silly but fun era. 'Course it also paved the way for the return of good rock roll too, by ultimately being unsatisfying. "The Streak" was just a late, boring attempt to make that dog hunt one more time, which was futile and demeaned the earlier stuff, which at the time was rather inventive and fresh, if you can believe that. In his earliest incarnation, he was much like Roger Miller would be thought of later. It is a distortion to lump his later junk in with his earlier hits because he eventually ran out of gas and began to repeat himself and become tiresome and clownish. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus: Stevie Ray Vaughn, who while inoffensive and sometimes soulful in himself has inspired the worst teenage guitar boy fantasies since Jim Morrison. What does this mean? That stevie was a teenager? That he was a teenage guitar? -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: 1998 P2 SURVEY
I missed something here. If it matters, I don't mind standing up to be counted as a Libra. out of it, Linda
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
How old were you when "Ahab the Arab" came out? I was a kid/teen and it was cooler than shit to us. It is a distortion to lump his later junk in with his earlier hits because he eventually ran out of gas and began to repeat himself and become tiresome and clownish. Joe Gracey Yeah, exactly, as per usual. Besides, if we start letting people judge us by the way we are once we begin to repeat ourselves, run out of gas and become tiresome and clownish, we'll all be in trouble. Well--at least those of us in the upper end of the demographic... Besides, if we start letting peop[le judge us by the way we are once we begin to repeat ourselves, run out of gas and become tiresome and clownish, we'll all be in trouble. Well--at least those of us in the upper end of the demographic... Besides, if we start letting peop[le judge us by the way we are once we begin to repeat ourselves, run out of gas and become tiresome and clownish, we'll all be in trouble. Well--at least those of us in the upper end of the demographic... Besides... Barry M.
Damn This Old LA Town
Tireless defender of my hometown that I am, I must bitch for a moment about last night's Damnations gig. That poor band was subjugated to everything I hate about LA. There they were, playing their plucky banjo-fied songs to a crowd at the half-full Viper Room that was so so so so chatty that I kept hoping the band would give up on the quieter acoustic stuff and crank up the loud stuff again, just to mask the noise. It fucking pisses me off when people show up and then just talk over the music, especially when they're on the list (which people are more often than not at the Viper), especially when they're supposed to be there supporting a new band with a debut album making their first appearance on the storied boulevard that is the Sunset Strip. As a result, most of the set sounded tentative and slghtly off kilter, with several deer-in-the-headlights-looks being shot from the stage. Welcome to LA. Neal Weiss
Re: Damn This Old LA Town
It fucking pisses me off when people show up and then just talk over the music, especially when they're on the list Sounds like any night, any band, any venue in Memphis
Re: Damn This Old LA Town
Neal, I've heard so many bad anecdotes about playing the Viper Club that I wonder if it's just not a very artist-friendly venue Any truth in that, from your perspective? --junior
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
Dina writes: Now, surely Terry doesn't mean to eradicate the Texas Playboys. or the Texas Tornados for that matter. Jim, smilin'
Re: Damn This Old LA Town
Neal, I've heard so many bad anecdotes about playing the Viper Club that I wonder if it's just not a very artist-friendly venue Any truth in that, from your perspective? Artist-friendly? Hard to say. On one hand it's great for a band because a gig there suggests some sort of buzz status. Plus, it's also a really nice, intimate room with excellent sound and a groovy-ass DJ. I don't know if it's any worse than the other clubs with a high weasel content and I have seen some really great shows there. In fact, it's the high-weasel content that does yield moments that might not happen elsewhere, like Springsteen joining Joe Ely on stage for a few songs. But the biggest problem with the Viper, I think, is that it's a place to be seen (scene). Thus, you get folks going for the wrong reason. Add to that the fish-out-of-water scenario of a twang band and a night that would conclude with Booty Quake (one of the several kitsch 70's cover bands making a *really* good living these days) and it's just asking for trouble. NW
RE: Pronunciation question
Hi, I've always thought best to go for dyne, if only not to confuse them with the British eighties Hi-NRG singer Hazel Dean who recorded the god-awful "Searchin' ( I gotta find a Man )" Regards, Warren Owen ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) ** The Alt Country Tab Page is at www.altcountry.freeserve.co.uk ** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shane S. Rhyne Sent: 26 February 1999 14:52 To: passenger side Subject: Pronunciation question Howdy, I'm probably going to play this band on "Fringe" this weekend and would like very much not to mangle the pronunciation of their name. So, which is it? "Hazel-dean" or "Hazel-dyne" Thanks in advance for your kind assistance. Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Hazeldine, Orphans
Re: 1998 P2 SURVEY
Stacey and Pete... Wanted to thank you personally for doing the survey. It was a fascinating thing to do. And speaking as one of the Twangfest organizing committee, I also wonder whether it might not be possible, if/ when the survey is done again, to include some questions that would indicate "consumer" stats: how many CDs bought in a year, how much radio listened to, magazines, how often they see live shows, buy musical equipment, how many purchases they make over the net, etc. The reason I ask this is that we have just made Twangfest into a not-for-profit entity, making it possible to go after bigger sponsors with the lure of tax-deductible donations, etc. Part of what would lure larger, possibly corporate sponsors, is obviously the prospect of increased or more positive visibility in a specific market-demographic group. Now, it strikes me that this is possibly a peculiar use of the survey and not a good idea. To add a dimension like this to a survey in the P2 community, which has always been shielded from commerical spam and such, I suspect it would be best to be upfront and exlain that numbers could be used in talking up potential sponsors for Tfest, etc. And to insure anonymity, etc. On the other hand, insofar as it would give us some numbers to put in our presskit for sponsors, it would contribute to the ongoing Twangfest and annual P2 compilation CD projects that we organize. It could be a tremendous help from that perspective. So let me know what you think of this notion. Stacey, I know you're moving, and there's no rush since it's too late for this year's sponsorship-raising cycle anyway. But it's an idea that occured to me on reading your survey, in any case. Marie Arsenault, another member of the Tfest committee, brought up the possible advantage to be had from such numbers some time ago, in fact. Sponsorship has always been the most difficult part of organizing Tfest and the possibility of attracting larger sponsors will make putting on the entire event vastly easier. Best, hope to talk with you soon. --junior. PS. Pete, I've got an undergraduate doing a directed reading this semester on the construction of taste in pop music and he's working his way through your book this week g.
Re: 1998 P2 SURVEY
Well, since I inadvertently posted this to the list, why don't any of you who have any comments or thoughts respond to me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just an idea that occured to me. As I mentioned in that note, I see advantages from a sponsorship-appeal standpoint but am not entirely comfortable with the notion from a populist standpoint g. Lemme know, --junior
Re: Damn This Old LA Town
I hear you about the Club, Neal. Your comment about several kitschy 70s-cover bands making a good living currently in LA made me grin. There's one in the KC area making incredible amounts of money... Doing much better than any other single band in the area, as far as I can figure it. But obviously not the best environment for the Damnations. sheesh! g. --junior PS. About the Viper Club, most of the negative anecdotes I've heard concern the way the stage manager and staff treat the artists.
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
Also, we surely need to spare the Texas Twelve-Steppers. With P-2er Jim Stringer! g. --junior
Tonight's Opry
OK--here's the lineup for the televised portion of the Opry tonight (TNN, 8:30-9:00pm Eastern, repeating at 11:30pm Eastern): Lorrie Morgan, Clark Family Experience, BR5-49, Diamond Rio Hmmm. Maybe BR5-49 will be on the "Backstage" show that airs from 8:00-8:30 and repeats at 11:00pm. Dina
Re: SXSW party--heads up!
Wow, Robbie, Kinky, and Lonesome Bob on the same bill. Not too shabby! g. That reminds me: isn't Kinky having a benefit in Austin for his wildlife charity (or some other wildlife charity) a week or two before Tfest? Do any of you Austinites know the lineup for that show? I vaguely recall a couple of big names --junior
Re: SXSW party--heads up!
In a message dated 2/27/99 2:05:07 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That reminds me: isn't Kinky having a benefit in Austin for his wildlife charity (or some other wildlife charity) a week or two before Tfest? Do any of you Austinites know the lineup for that show? I vaguely recall a couple of big names March 10 at La Zona Rosa - JJ Walker, J. Ely, RE Keen, B.Hancock, M. Ball, JD Gilmore, Ray Benson, LR Parnell, J. McMurtry, Aus. Lounge Lizards, Geezinslaws, all backed up by Double Trouble, Steven Bruton, ponty Bone, Alvin Crow, and others. tickets are only $100. Slim - NOT going
Re: SXSW party--heads up!
That's a great lineup for Kinky's benefit, but at $100-a-plate you're gonna get a strange crowd indeed Nobody has that kind of bucks excpept socialites, politicians, and drug dealers! I'll go for the afternoon party at the Spoke g. ALSO: I just read on the hillbilly list that WANDA JACKSON will be signing autographs at Cheapo Friday about 5:00 or so Cool. --junior
Re: Jeff Lynne
Yes, despite our habit of ritually debunking Jeff Lynne, it would be wrong to eliminate him because of a number of fine things he's done, not least the Roy Orbison recordings Dina mentions. There's also "Brontasaurus," by The Move g. --junior
Re: Damn This Old LA Town
The sorry thing, Neal, is we all blame this kind of behavior on our own towns (easy enough to do here in downtown hipper-than-thousville, too) but it's getting to be too damn common everywhere across the U.S.--and maybe beyond. The worst mistake is supposed to be to say anything about this rudeness or to try to hush it..Yoiu become an instant heavy. Unless you're Linda Ray, if I remember right. She shuts 'em up real good! I can report on who talked through Dave Alvin and Robbie Fulks here tonight-tomorrow! Barry M. There they were, playing their plucky banjo-fied songs to a crowd at the half-full Viper Room that was so so so so chatty that I kept hoping the band would give up on the quieter acoustic stuff and crank up the loud stuff again, just to mask the noise. It fucking pisses me off when people show up and then just talk over the music, especially when they're on the li Neal Weiss
Vegas?
Does anybody have any inkling of anything interesting going on in Las Vegas between April 18th and 22nd? And attention bands I like: please try to avoid scheduling your trips to Atlanta during those dates. Thank you. Dina
Re: Vegas?
When's the Vegas rockabilly weekend? I think it's earlier than that, but I'm not sure --junior
RE: Tonight's Opry
OK--here's the lineup for the televised portion of the Opry tonight (TNN, 8:30-9:00pm Eastern, repeating at 11:30pm Eastern): Lorrie Morgan, Clark Family Experience, BR5-49, Diamond Rio Hmmm. Maybe BR5-49 will be on the "Backstage" show that airs from 8:00-8:30 and repeats at 11:00pm. They should be, if only briefly; the Backstage show usually manages to slip all of the televised portion guests on. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Ringo
Suggestions for Nancy from someone nearby: 1. Did he ever get to realize his dream of becoming a hairdresser? 2. Is he still good at math? 3. Does he ever get confused with Yassir Arafat? 4. How did they usually mike the drum kit at Abbey Road; and where was he placed in the studio, in relation to the singers, etc.? 5. Whose idea was it to cut "Act Naturally"? What other country artists or songs were favorites for the mop tops? 6. Who were his drumming heroes when he was learning to play? 7. Did he ever meet Al Jackson, Jr.? 8. Which does he prefer: Tiny Face or Silent Scream? I have absolutely no idea what the last two mean. Dina
Re: Tonight's Opry
This has come up a couple of times in the past but I'll mention it again just in case. Anyone in the eastern half of the US and pretty far westward (out as far as TX, OK, KS for sure) can hear the Opry on radio on WSM, 650 AM. It comes after dark just fine and I have a ball listening to whenever I'm in the car on Fridays and Saturday nights --junior
Re: Vegas?
Does anybody have any inkling of anything interesting going on in Las Vegas between April 18th and 22nd? Dina Hey Dina--if that, as I think it is, is the week of the NAB Broadcasters convention, (which as of the moment at least I'm scheduled to be at too BTW)...the answer to "what's going on?", as with COMDEX week is usually... not much! With 150,000 people in town they don't usually have to add great acts. On the other hand, caught Ray Charles there one year that week--George Carlin another time...and (maybe even better at this point) the reunion of Keeley Smith with Sam Butera and the Witnesses (i.e., the Louis Prima Band) doing all the original stuff as a lounge act yet--it was packed! But even Sigfried and Roy tend to leave town that week! Get to know you're slot machine and gin. Barry M.
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
Mariah Carey?
Reno?? Tahoe? Carson City? March 12-15
Hey all, On a completely illogical whim, I am going to be in Reno...yes, Reno, Nevada from March 12-15. Does anyone know if there is anything cool to do in the realm of music. I am not much of a gambler, I dont ski, and despite the fact that I really really want to go to that HUGE bowling arena featured in Kingpin, I probably will not. I will have a car so I am mobile. I hear there is some Snowfest in Tahoe that has bands and such but cant find any info. I am missing Robin Trower by two days (Damn me missing the King of the Fender Strat...He is another guy I forgot about that kicks Clapton's ass up and down the fingerboard.). If anyone out there knows anything, let me know, it would be appreciated. I supposed I could go 4 days without music since I will be in Austin from the 16th-22nd for SXSW, but I am still curious if there is anything going on. Any other hints, ideas, cool places to go, eat or see would be appreciated. Thanks. Alex "is anyone putting together a comprehensive alt.country friendly SXSW schedule?" Millar _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Vegas?
Oh, Barry! I caught Sam Butera last time I was in Vegas and he was *great*. Some extremely jumpin' RB, wow. He lives in Vegas and so is always something to look for when you're passing through. Also The Treniers, another old RB act, kick ass out there on a regular basis. And Sonny Curtis Not much twang in Vegas, in my experience, but there are a bunch of these old RB guys that live there now, sing their asses off, and who will have a drink with ya and reminisce about the Chitlin circuit and such. Definitely acts to catch. -junior
Re: The Eradication Game misc comments
Like Jon and Kelly, I find I don't have the neccessary bloodlust to eradicate bands I don't much like. Rock critics are another matter. Can we eradicate Greil Marcus? Please, please, PLEASE? Pretty please? Aw to hell with begging. E-fucking-radicate the dude. I'm tempted to eradicate Lester Bangs as well; not so much for what he wrote, but for what he wrought -- for all the gazillions of Bangs wannabes who've cluttered up the landscape since. I'll settle for hermetically sealing him off. In other news, sometimes on this list I feel like I've wandered into an alternate universe, where everything is the same as this one, except for one little weird change. Reading the recent comparison between women's makeup and production was one of those times. Nevermind the actual *argument* -- it's the assumptions about women's makeup that caught my maybellined eye. Most effective if it's not noticeable? Tasteful if it's done right? What is this, a junior-high school grooming guide? Clue: in today's modern world, many women who use makeup feel it's not effective unless it's noticeable. Many young women, in fact, use make-up in an --you'll excuse the phrase -- in-your-face way. "Effective," yes. "Tasteful" isn't the point. But older women, too, use lots of mascara, eyeshadow, and above all, lipstick, for it to be noticed, by god. Not to mention fingernails! Comparing makeup to production values -- well, all I can say is that on any given day I see a lot of women with faces that look like a Phil Spector production. A wall-of-face kinda deal. (Of course, this is at an office building in the big city, not a Mennonite gathering, so YMMV.) Next I'll be hearing that the hemlines of women's skirts should fall at the middle of the knee. Hairstyles should be attractive but not outlandish. Heels should never be higher than an inch and a half. Wear colors that are feminine and not too brash. Talk about things he likes. Sheesh. And while I'm at it, the snide remarks about Shania Twain's dress got on my nerves. It's one thing to criticize her music; another to apply a double standard to her stage clothes. What double standard? Imagine the same exact dress on Tina Turner. That double standard. Plus, the catty comments about the Dixie Chicks' sartorial shortcomings are pretty rich coming from a group that accepts hats made out of sweatpant legs. g I'm done now. --Cheryl Cline Oh, but P.S.: Did someone mention the new Rosie Flores album and give it a less-than enthusiastic review? WRONG!
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
I can't settle on one, but if I had to choose three bands to eradicate, I'd take KISS, the Grateful Dead, and the Rolling Stones. Aim high, says I... Tom (cool! I can post again! damn merger screwed up my subscription...)
Re: Reno?? Tahoe? Carson City? March 12-15
In a message dated 2/27/99 2:51:27 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "is anyone putting together a comprehensive alt.country friendly SXSW schedule?" I believe former P2 superhero John Conquest does a nice listing in his little comic book he puts out every month. So far I know Cheapo Records and Under The Sun have very nice lineups over the whole time of the event. Then there's Cherlyn's party on thursday, The No Dep/MOM party on saturday at the Spoke, Checkered Past party also saturday at Yard Dog. I will try to keep reporting things as I hear about them. Slim np - Steven Bruton "nothing but the truth' Very nice stuff Slim
Re: Vegas?
Oh, Barry! I caught Sam Butera last time I was in Vegas and he was *great*. Some extremely jumpin' RB, wow. He lives in Vegas and so is always something to look for when you're passing through. Also The Treniers, another old RB act, kick ass out -junior The Treniers are an all-time favorite of mine, and should be of everybody else's too--still remember 'em down on the floor and flopping a flyin standup bass between the knees when I was a kid...plus they made great records. In Philadelphia! If what's left of 'em ever plays when I'm in Las Vegas..I'm there! Twang content kinda: when I caught that Sam Butera/Keely Smith reunion (at the Desert Inn, just outside the Chinese reastuarant).. among those in the stand-up crowd was none other than the King of the Sidekicks--Mr. Pat Butram. I'd just had to explain to 20 somethings who Louis Prima was (this was well before the advent of Gap commercials, although after the revival of "Just a Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody" by a party who will remain nameless)..so "first Italian/American Indian singing comedy team, before Sonny and Cher, and o yeah, they really rocked)...now I had to go back to the days of erial anbd 50s TV cowboys to explain why I was fauninbg over this ol' man (I was not alone)... Barry M.
Hogan live on the air and in cyberspace
This can be heard live on the net at http://www.wnur.org -- Today on Airplay (3-6 p.m. Chicago time on 89.3 FM WNUR or www.wnur.org) we have live performances from... - Terry Rohm - Daniel Johnston / Phil Ochs style singer-songwriter from Ann Arbor. - Kelly Hogan and her band - This former member of The Jody Grind and The RockeTeens (and Bloodshot Records assistant honcho) does a mean Al Green at Karaoke night. Her band includes members of Mr. Rudy Day. - Versus - This Merge recording artist from New York City played a beautiful set that we recorded yesterday. Please note the early start time this Saturday. Coming soon... Hank Williams III Don Caballero Robert Johnson and the Browns Rebecca Gates R.L. Burnside [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Moran Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
At 01:03 PM 2/26/99 -0500, Tarhut Jeff wrote: ZZ Top's early stuff positively smoked Seger - I'll agree with that... But both were weak and milktoast when compared to AC/DC of the same era (with Bon Scott). But I gotta stick up for a Michigan boy like Seger. D.
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
Bon Scott is one of the best rock and roll singers ever. -Original Message- From: Douglas Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 4:37 PM Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz) At 01:03 PM 2/26/99 -0500, Tarhut Jeff wrote: ZZ Top's early stuff positively smoked Seger - I'll agree with that... But both were weak and milktoast when compared to AC/DC of the same era (with Bon Scott). But I gotta stick up for a Michigan boy like Seger. D.
PLAYLIST: Progressive Torch and Twang, 23 February 1999
- Playlist for Progressive Torch and Twang Tuesdays, 8 p.m. to midnight WDBM, 88.9 FM, G-4 Holden Hall, East Lansing, MI 48824 Your hosts: Doug Neal and Jamie DePolo Questions, comments? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Roots rockin', hip-shakin', soul-swayin' music!" Playlist for February 23, 1999 Tonight was the eve of WDBM's tenth anniversary as a 2000 watt broadcasting FM station (previous student-run radio stations at Michigan State University had been AM carrier current), so we dug deep into the archives and pulled out some of the listener's all-time favorite songs to complement the great new music we have received. Additionally, we interviewed Patricia Pettinga, a singer/songwriter who was playing as part of a new music series at a local restaurant. We capped off the night by featuring the latest releases from Kelly Willis and Joe Henry. Format is: Artist - Song Album/Label Link Wray - Rawhide (TT Theme Song) Walkin' With Link/Epic-Legacy Dave Alvin The Guilty Men - Long White Cadillac Interstate City/Hightone Chirs Gaffney - Cowboys to Girls Loser's Paradise/Hightone Chris Smither - Drive You Home Again Drive You Home Again/Hightone X - The Have Nots (request) Under The Big Black Sun/Elektra Tom Russell Iris Dement - Acres of Corn The Man From God Know Where/Hightone Brian Henneman - Indianapolis 7-inch/Rockville Waco Brothers - Train Back in Time Wacoworld/Bloodshot Rosie Flores - This Old Honky Tonk Dance Hall Dreams/Rounder Patsy Cline - Stop the World (And Let Me Off) (request) The Birth of a Star/Razor Tie Hazeldine - It's Only Love Orphans/All Swoll Bad Livers - Lust for Life (request) Lust for Life single/Cargo The Gourds - Ziggy Stardust Gogitchyershinebox/Watermelon-Sire The Flatirons - Crazy Train Prayer Bones/Checkered Past Kelly Willis - They're Blind What I Deserve/Rykodisc Patricia Pettinga - Something Sweet Breathing Under Water/P2 Patricia Pettinga - Breathing Under Water Breathing Under Water/P2 Willie Nelson - Sweet Memories (request) The Essential Willie Nelson/RCA Uncle Tupelo - Anodyne (request) Anodyne/Sire-Reprise Uncle Tupelo - Sin City 7-inch/Rockville Beaver Nelson - Forget Thinkin' That Last Hurrah/Freedom Pinetops - So Lonesome I Could Fly Above Ground and Vertical/Soundproof K.C. Groves - New Mexico Can You Hear It/Self-Released J.D. Crowe The New South - I Don't Know Come on Down to My World/Rounder Mac, Doc Del - I Wonder Where You Are Tonight Mac, Doc Del/Sugar Hill Steve Earle The Del McCoury Band - I'm Still in Love with You (request) The Mountain/E-Squared Ricky Skaggs Kentucky Thunder - Carolina Mountain Home Ancient Tones - Skaggs Family The Del McCoury Band - She's Left Me Again The Family/Ceili Steve Earle The Del McCoury Band - Connemara Breakdown The Mountain/E-Squared The Del McCoury Band - Don't You Think It's Time To Go The Family/Ceili The Jimmy Haynes Band - Blackberry Blossom (request) Instrumentals/Autumn Southern Culture on the Skids - My House Has Wheels (request) Ditch Diggin'/Safe House Two Nice Girls - I Spent My Last $10 on Birth Control and Beer (request) Self-Titled/Rough Trade Uncle Tupelo - No Depression No Depression/Rockville Paul Westerberg - Born for Me Suicaine Gratifcation/Capitol Damnations TX - Things I Once Adored Half Mad Moon/Sire Deliberate Strangers - Box of Pine Mood Music For Snake Handlers/Payday Flat Duo Jets - Little M Lucky Eye/Outpost The Bottle Rockets - Coffee Monkey Leftovers/Doolittle Bad Livers - Brand New Hat Industry and Thrift/Sugar Hill Jeff White - Lonesome as it Gets The Broken Road/Rounder Shaver - Cowboy Who Started the Fight Victory/New West Lyle Lovett - If I Needed You Step Inside This House/Curb Kelly Willis - Take Me Down What I Deserve/Rykodisc Kelly Willis - What I Deserve What I Deserve/Rykodisc Kelly Willis - Heaven Bound What I Deserve/Rykodisc Joe Henry - Monkey Fuse/Mammoth Joe Henry - Angels Fuse/Mammoth Joe Henry - Fuse Fuse/Mammoth Hank Williams - Mind Your Own Business (request) The Original Singles Collection/Mercury Hank Williams - Your Gonna Change (or I'm Gonna Leave) (request) The Original Singles Collection/Mercury Run CW - Sweet Soul Music (request) Into the Twangy First Century/MCA Jack Black - Cold Self-Titled/Cacophone Doug Neal/Jamie DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Progressive Torch and Twang Tuesdays, 8 pm-midnight WDBM-89 FM, G4 Holden Hall East Lansing, MI 48824 Request Line: 517-355-4237 The TT homepage: http://pilot.msu.edu/user/depolo
Dan Mesh Mike Ireland
Who's Dan Mesh? Anybody up on him? He and Mike Ireland are playing the HonkyTonk Living Room 4/15 w/ Deanna Varagona. Kelly K
RE: Dan Mesh Mike Ireland
Who's Dan Mesh? Anybody up on him? He's the member of Holler that's still playing gigs with Mike. Which, unless Mike's completed the hiring process, would make Dan Holler g. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Jeff Lynne
BARNARD wrote: Yes, despite our habit of ritually debunking Jeff Lynne, it would be wrong to eliminate him because of a number of fine things he's done, not least the Roy Orbison recordings Dina mentions. There's also "Brontasaurus," by The Move g. Not to take anything away from Lynne but we should give proper credit here. This is essentially a Roy Wood number, both as writer and singer. Lynne only played on it, having just joined the band. Things got more to a 50-50 split on the next album, Message From the Country or Split Ends depending on when and where you bought it, and of course the first Electric Light Orchestra album which was basically the Move with strings. Bill Lavery http://villagerecords.com/
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
Hey there, Neal Weiss, who wanted to eradicate Asia (Curry said no) and was very passionate about losing REO Speedwagon (my wifey said no). They should at least be kept for their pioneering music videos. g Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Eradication Game
Hey there, Just some nominees for my all type pet peeve musical style... Blues Traveller Spin Doctors and hopefully this will take down Jackopierce, Peat Moss, etc. etc. etc. and all those hippie jam bands. Yuck. Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Eradication Game
In a message dated 2/27/99 7:49:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blues Traveller Spin Doctors and hopefully this will take down Jackopierce, Peat Moss, etc. etc. etc. and all those hippie jam bands. Yuck. Absolutely no objection from me particularly if it would kill off all these tie-dyed Athens hippie jam bands! They drive me nut. Talk about noodling. Deb
cheap rental cars for SXSW?
Anyone know of any special rental car deals? We're gonna be rentin' one down in Austin this year (and we may even let some of you in itg). Feel free to email me privately, or to the list if you think it's of somewhat general interest.--don
Re: cheap rental cars for SXSW?
Anyone know of any special rental car deals? We're gonna be rentin' one down in Austin this year (and we may even let some of you in itg). Feel free to email me privately, or to the list if you think it's of somewhat general interest.--don To the list, please. We're renting too--partly so that I don't have to put my life in jeopardy again by getting in a car that Don is driving vbg--and since we rarely rent cars, I'd like to know the scoop from people who know more about the topic than I do. And just a reminder: if you're going to SXSW and haven't let me know yet, please do. I'll post the tally right before I leave for Austin on March 16. Austinites, of course, are not required to let me know that they'll be there, though you can if you want. --Amy "Ain't no use in hanging around/Emptiness swallows its own path/I watch my weakness go down easy/And I pray it won't last..." (The Damnations TX)
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Queen, Bad Co., Burney...). Therefore, after having seen the light brought forth by the good Senator Minor from Colorado, I say let Styx burn in hell. And I say BON APETITEbugs are considered a delicacy by some cultures, you know. Therefore, I'm gonna groove to Eric Carmon's "She Did It" and Al Stewart's "Year of the Cat" until they put me in a deep dark hole. Pass the deep-fried crickets. JC
Re: cheap rental cars for SXSW?
I rent a lot for work travel but haven't much for personal travel so for personal -- I don't know what's cheap (I get a govt. discount for work). I did notice that my Amex statement this month included $20 off coupons from both Budget and National. If you used a travel agent or even one of the online travel bookers they usually know the deals. For work lately, I've been renting from Alamo and Dollar -- decent cars and now that gas is so cheap they've had some good unlimited miles deals -- though in Austin miles isn't going to be the seller. I would advise that folks renting cars -- try to get them right away. I think it was 1995 when I rented at the last minute in SXSW and there wasn't a car to be found and definitely not a cheap one. I lucked out and got a car -- a sporty premium model and it cost me a fortune. I guess I've driven the last few years and hauled folks around -- this year I'm just going to take my chances. Last year staying downtown, it was easier to walk or cab it than look for a parking place. Good luck car renters, Deb
Re: Reno?? Tahoe? Carson City? March 12-15
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, AJM wrote: bands and such but cant find any info. I am missing Robin Trower by two days (Damn me missing the King of the Fender Strat...He is another guy I forgot about that kicks Clapton's ass up and down the fingerboard.). If anyone out there knows anything, let me know, it Millar!!! I knew there was yet another reason why I love you. Robin Trower...damn straight sir. I've caught him live on at least 3 occasions and he's never ceased to amaze me. Definitely prefered over Clapton. so, get your butt on out here for a visit. Yes, I know this went to the list. Sue me! NP: Pernice Brothers - Overcome by Happiness JC
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I ever tell you I was in Tahoe in a casino playing keeno (or some game I didn't understand) when I heard strains of "Year of the Cat" coming from their small show room? And yes, it really was Al. Wasn't much a draw -- I peaked in and there were only a handful of people. Sorry, Jer Hmm, I wonder if you just caught the sound check..g. I've heard he's still a monster in the NW area of Slovenia. JC
RE: Dan Mesh Mike Ireland
At 05:37 PM 2/27/99 -0500, Jon answered the query about Dan Mesh: He's the member of Holler that's still playing gigs with Mike. Which, unless Mike's completed the hiring process, would make Dan Holler g. Yeah, Dan is Holler's rhythm guitarist, and only current member. I heard M D play as a duo on what, I think, was their first time out, about a month or so ago, and all I can say is: Go see these two if they come your way. If you liked the songs and the singing on the disc, but struggled with the occasionally lush arrangements, then here's your chance to hear the songs and the voice stripped naked. And if you liked those original settings, here's your chance to experience the songs reimagined. --david cantwell
Re: Reno?? Tahoe? Carson City? March 12-15
Reno? http://www.tahoe.com/action/reno.html shows the following during the timeframe March 12-15: John Ascuaga's NUGGET CELEBRITY SHOWROOM: Righteous Brother Bill Medley (March 4-17) [just missed Barbara Mandrell] On the South Shore, CAESARS TAHOE CIRCUS MAXIMUS: George Carlin (March 12-13) Wynonna (March 19-20) [just missed the Moody Blues and Willie Nelson] March 1-31 -- Carson Valley Museum Cultural Center: National Women in History month. Info: 782-2555. ELEVATION in North Shore has the following: Super Diamond [great Neil Diamond tribute band] (March 12-13) Abyssinians (March 14) More will be available as you get closer to the date. http://www.tahoe.com/skitahoe/sierralife/index.html has more suggestions. Don't ask me about the time I inadvertantly saw the Further Festival at the Reno Hilton. Deadheads gambling...uhhh
