Paging someone to page Mr. Lauderdale
Hey, if anyone runs into Jim Lauderdale anywhere, tell him he ought to come back and play in Atlanta sometime soon. There are a few people who want to see him. (No, it's not just me.) That's all. Nothing to contribute... Dina
Re: SXSW report (long)
Head to panel discussion on Hank Williams. Most fascinating aspect was contributed by Greil Marcus, who talked about a movie that fancifully described the last show Hank played. "Hank Williams: The Show He Never Gave", featuring the great Sneezy Waters, from Ottawa, as Hank. Based on the play written by Maynard Collins which toured North America from 1977 to 1993. Waters nailed the role, winning kudos from people like Minnie Pearl and Wesley Rose for his portrayal. Waters also recorded a fine album of Williams covers in 1981. *** Boot Heel Drag can be heard on CJSW 90.9 FM , Calgary,AB Tuesdays at 6:30 PM MST and on realaudio at www.cjsw.com.
ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
I'm trying to track down some digital Todd Snider and Blue Mt. I would prefer to receive in CDR format, but will trade my CDRs or videos (ask for list) for DAT as well. My list can be found at: http://www.erols.com/supton Also, I own all of the legit commercial products from both bands. Bought a bunch of Todd Snider to pass on to friends as well. peace, Clancey
Hey Derek or Todd!
Sorry for the onlist message, folks Derek or Todd from Buck Diaz, I left Todd a message at home but then realized he goes out of town on business, etc, and might not get it...Can I use Derek's drums on Fri night? It'll make the changeover b/t sets a lot easier and I have to bolt right after we play or else I'd offer to let you use mine. I'll bring all my breakables plus my own snare. Write me offlist. Thanks, Steve Kirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Jim Cuddy on Jeff and Jay
From an interview this week in a local rag with Jim Cuddy of Blue Rodeo: "You can get tired of rocking, it can seem forced, because it's harder to do than stand up on stage and be melancholy. It's so much easier to sum up the integrity of your pain than it is to channel some joy. Let's say, two bands like Wilco and Son Volt. I love both these bands, but I cannot watch a whole Son Volt concert. I think 'Fuck, smile, Jay. It's not so bad. You're getting 15 thousand bucks and there are all these people here. What could be so awful?' And so Wilco appeals to me more because there's a much more rambunctious, detailed spirit. " Regards, Allen Baekeland *** Boot Heel Drag can be heard on CJSW 90.9 FM , Calgary,AB Tuesdays at 6:30 PM MST and on realaudio at www.cjsw.com.
ReNew and improved Americana on the Air!
http://pw2.netcom.com/~fboenig/aota.htm
Fw: SGVN: Dolly's Gospel Special
Howdy, From the Southern Gospel Virtual Newsletter -Original Message- From: Scott Gunnerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 01:04 PM Subject: SGVN: Dolly's Gospel Special Southern Gospel Virtual Newsletter = http://sogospel.com = TNN will present Dolly's Gospel Special, Precious Memories at 8 p.m. EST on Thursday, April 1. It's an hour-long presentation and features Allison Kraus and Union Station, the Cox Family and The Kingdom Heirs. "It should be a great show," said Steve French of the Kingdom Heirs. "She (Dolly Parton) also talks a lot about the Hall of Fame."
Re: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
In a message dated 3/24/99 12:04:39 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, I own all of the legit commercial products from both bands. Bought a bunch of Todd Snider to pass on to friends as well. Oh well, that makes it okay to steal, doesn't it? Slim
new willie
Hey there, So is that new Willie Nelson re-release two-fer of 'Old Friends' worth buying? And what's up with his, like, 3 other 1999 releases? (best of, live, some other stuff) Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
In a message dated 3/24/99 12:04:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to track down some digital Todd Snider and Blue Mt. I would prefer to receive in CDR format, but will trade my CDRs or videos (ask for list) for DAT as well. Well, I have been trying to keep my mouth shut, but this really pisses me off. You know Todd is so nice that he does not really give a shit, but since he is trying to make a living, and since he does have a new record coming out soon why don't you just wait to buy it, rather than steal from him. By the way, I sent this on to Todd, and his manager you asshole!
RE: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
I deleted the original e-mail, being uninterested in the subject, but was he looking for a boot of the new album (which is cheap and inexcusable) or digital versions of peoples' taped concerts (which I'm all for, providing it's a fair trade, seeing as how it's not money from the artist's/label's pocket)? From the clipped bit, it reads like he's looking for non-released material, and wants to trade. As an artist, what's your take on that? Chris In a message dated 3/24/99 12:04:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to track down some digital Todd Snider and Blue Mt. I would prefer to receive in CDR format, but will trade my CDRs or videos (ask for list) for DAT as well. Well, I have been trying to keep my mouth shut, but this really pisses me off. You know Todd is so nice that he does not really give a shit, but since he is trying to make a living, and since he does have a new record coming out soon why don't you just wait to buy it, rather than steal from him. By the way, I sent this on to Todd, and his manager you asshole!
ESPN brackets
Does anyone know how to find out the results to date for the brackets we filled out. I can't seem to find it anywhere on the ESPN page. Sorry for the fluff. Chad
RE: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
From the clipped bit, it reads like he's looking for non-released material, and wants to trade. As an artist, what's your take on that? If a record label released material without the consent of the artist, wouldn't it be obvious that something rotten was going on? If so, what's the difference here? The financial principle is an important one, but it's not the only one; the principle of an artist's control over what material gets into the marketplace is another one, and there's a pretty obvious violation of it here. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Fwd: Steve Wynn CD out NOW!
The new Steve Wynn cd MY MIDNIGHT is out today! MY MIDNIGHT is now available at all the finer music stores in your town, pick up extras copies for friends and lovers and all those groovy strangers that you want to know better. SPIN IT, FALL IN LOVE WITH IT, THEN FALL IN LOVE TO IT. All you New Yorkers are invited to the Steve's record release performance this FRIDAY MARCH 26th AT THE MERCURY LOUNGE where he and his scorching new combo will take the stage around 11pm. Dress sharp. He'll be performing other select dates on the East Coast this week (see tour schedule below) before embarking on a 10-week tour of Go-Go dancing, wine tasting, and sonic indulgence on the great European Continent. You can follow The Steve Wynn Quintet World Tour through the magic of "tomorrow's technology, today". Visit his website at www.stevewynn.net and read his tour diary where you'll be privy to every juicy detail, every meal in every city, every drum beat, guitar note and ferry boat.everyday! See you there, babies! Steve Wynn World Tour / Spring 1999 MARCH 25 USA BOSTON TT THE BEARS MARCH 26 USA NEW YORK CITY MERCURY LOUNGE MARCH 27 USA WASHINGTON DC IOTA MARCH 28 USA PHILADELPHIATIN ANGEL MARCH 31 SPAIN VIGOLA IGUANA APRIL 1 SPAIN GIJON GIJON FESTIVAL APRIL 2 SPAIN JEREZ ESPARRAGO FESTIVAL APRIL 3 GREECEATHENS RODON APRIL 4 GREECELARISSA tba APRIL 5 GREECETHESSALONIKIMYLOS APRIL 6 GREECECRETE tba APRIL 7 HOLLAND AMSTERDAM VPRO RADIO SHOW APRIL 8 DENMARK COPENHAGEN PUMPHUSET APRIL 9 DENMARK ODENSE RYTMEPOSTEN APRIL 10 SWEDENMALMO KB APRIL 11 SWEDENGOTHENBURG PUSTERVIKSBAREN APRIL 12 SWEDENday off APRIL 13 SWEDENday off APRIL 14 NORWAYHALDEN STUDENTFEST APRIL 15 NORWAYOSLOJOHN DEE APRIL 16 NORWAYSTAVANGER FOLKEN APRIL 17 NORWAYBERGEN GARAGE APRIL 18 NORWAYTRONDHEIM VIETA APRIL 19 NORWAYLILLEHAMMER tba APRIL 20 NORWAYBORLANGEBOLANCHE APRIL 21 SWEDENBORAS KASHMIR APRIL 22 DENMARK ARHUS MUSIKCAFEEN APRIL 23 DENMARK AALBORG STUDENTERHUSET APRIL 24 GERMANY KIELRAUCHERIE APRIL 25 HOLLAND AMSTERDAM PARADISO APRIL 26 BELGIUM BRUSSELSRADIO 21 APRIL 27 BELGIUM BRUSSELSAB APRIL 28 BELGIUM BRUSSELSAB APRIL 29 HOLLAND HEYTHUISEN TOM TOM CLUB APRIL 30 UKLONDON BORDERLINE MAY 1 UK WOLVERTON THE VARSITY MAY 2 UK travel MAY 3 SPAIN travel MAY 4 SPAIN BARCELONA SIDE CAR MAY 5 SPAIN MADRID EL SOL MAY 6 SPAIN VALENCIABLACKNOTE MAY 7 SPAIN BERGARA JAM MAY 8 SPAIN CANARY ISLANDS tba MAY 9 SPAIN MALLORCASONOTONE MAY 10 SPAIN travel MAY 11 ITALY TURIN BARUMBA MAY 12 ITALY tba MAY 13 ITALY ROMEBIG MAMA MAY 14 ITALY RIMINI VELVET MAY 15 ITALY MILAN BINARIO-ZERO MAY 16 GERMANY REGENSBURG MALZEREI MAY 17 GERMANY NURMBURGK4 MAY 18 GERMANY STUTGARTUNIVERSUM MAY 19 GERMANY DREDEN STAR CLUB MAY 20 GERMANY BERLIN KNAAK MAY 21 GERMANY BIELEFELD KAMP MAY 22 GERMANY
Boston tomorrow (was RE: Steve Wynn CD out NOW!)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 9:14 AM To: passenger side Subject: Fwd: Steve Wynn CD out NOW! *** For my fellow Bostonians going to see Steve Wynn at TT's tomorrow, don't forget to go early to see Bob Egan. He's got a trio for this round of dates. Joyce Linehan
Re: digital Todd Snider / my take as an artist
which I'm all for, providing it's a fair trade, seeing as how it's not money from the artist's/label's pocket)? Yes, it is money from the artist, who happens to be trying to pay for a very modest home in a run down neighborhood he just bought, who is trying to pay bills just like the rest of us! Who does not have a steroid-inflamed record label covering his ass and paying for whatever his desires are for any given day. My take as an artist, hmm. Here you go. I am highly flattered when someone tapes my show. I like it if they ask first. I like it if they give me a copy later. Who knows, there may be something I could use on a release, and if I were to do so, I WOULD PAY THE PERSON WHO TAPED ME, AND CREDIT THEM SOMEHOW. I am not in the same position as Todd, who is much higher on the food chain than I when it comes to touring etc. I have done many shows with him, and I am always amazed at the size of audience, their intensity and dedication. I think that is something I can only hope someday I will be blessed to know first hand. People pay to get into a show, I don't think it is fair to the artist for someone to bootleg the hell out of their stuff later to people who missed it. The guy did not specifically say what he was after, but I can promise you that stuff like this eventually gets into the hands of someone who is going to make a buck off it. Set aside the fact that Todd and I are buds, I hate to see any musician get screwed. Again I tell you that stuff like this ALWAYS GETS INTO THE HANDS OF SOMEONE WHO WILL EVENTUALLY MAKE A BUCK OFF IT. I got a letter in the mail with a check from a real nice guy in Idaho last week. He bought my CD off my web page, and then a friend of his loved it so much he asked for a CD bootleg. Floyd, the guy who originally bought it had e- mailed me a couple times about some of the tunes, and could not do it. He bought his friend a copy instead. This does not happen everyday, but it is nice to know there are some fans out there who have consideration for all that an artist trys to give to them. That's my take.
RE: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
In a message dated 3/24/99 11:18:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the principle of an artist's control over what material gets into the marketplace is another one, and there's a pretty obvious violation of it here. Right on someone taped me when I had flu, thought it was great and wanted to include it on a cd. I am just glad that the dude understood that I don't want stuff that I am not proud off out there.
Re: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
In a message dated 3/24/99 12:18:57 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a record label released material without the consent of the artist, wouldn't it be obvious that something rotten was going on? If so, what's the difference here? the difference is that there's a contractual, legal relationship between artist and company that either disallows, or allows, the company to release with or without consent of the artist. there is no such agreement between the public and the artist. ive yet to meet any fans who trade or purchase live stuff that hasn't purchased much, if not all, of the artist's catalog. many artists encourage such activity. ive been to several todd shows, and he has been pretty clear that he doesn't have a problem with taping and trading. hell, bet he's even got a few items in his collection.
Car Tunes Playlist
This is what I played Monday on Car Tunes, WEVL FM 90 Memphis from 4-6 PM No extra charge for all the type-Ohs! Terry Allen - Southern Comfort Jimmy Murphy - You Touched Me And Made Me Live Again Chris Wall - Cowboy Nation Don Walser - Bull Riders Last Ride Robert Earl Keen - That Buckin Song DeRailers - The Glory Will Never Get Gold Ricky Skaggs - Pig In A Pen Hadacol - Poorer than Dead Leon Russell - Sixteen Tons Mason Ruffner - Baby I Don't Care No More Pawtuckets - Sweetness Mark Harriman - Heaven's Scent Sid Selvidge - Stay In My Car Reba Russell - Head Start In The Wrong Direction Jimmy LaFave - Positively 4th Street Steve and Del- Leroy's Dustbowl Blues Memphis Sheiks - Lilies Rosie Flores - It Came From Memphis Keith Sykes - One Up One Down Lucinda William _ Still I Long For Your Kiss Johnny Cash - Hey Porter Johnny Cash - Cry Cry Cry Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues Greg Trooper - Lightning Bug Gary Williams - To The Girl Who Has Everything Philip Jaynes - Tough Old Bird Robert Earl Keen - Amarillo Highway Trio II - After the Goldrush
Clip: G**th Baseball Update
Monday March 22 7:34 PM ET How Garth Brooks Fared on Monday MESA, Ariz. (AP) - How it went for Garth Brooks on Monday at spring training for the San Diego Padres: COUNTRY CAMPER: Brooks was hitless in two at-bats and made an error in left field in the Padres' split-squad, 7-7 tie with the Chicago Cubs at HoHoKam Park. He is 1-for-13 (.077) this spring. HIGH NOTE: Brooks nearly had his second hit in two days, but Cubs shortstop Jose Hernandez made a nice play behind the bag and threw out Brooks. ON THE RECORD: ``Thank God Mesa has only one ballpark,'' said Brooks, who went to the wrong field in Tucson on Saturday for the Padres' previous road game. HoHoKam's version of the Bleacher Bums were all over Brooks. Some examples: ``Are you the guy who sang `Achy Breaky Heart?'; ``Hey, it's Brooke Shields''; ``Hey, Tony (Gwynn), is Garth going to beat you out?''; and ``Hey Garth, I just bought you for $3 on my fantasy league team.''
Gaffney to record shows at Swallows Inn this weekend
Hi there, In light of recent Dave Alvin posts with Chris Gaffney mentions, I thought some of you might be interested in the following information: If any of you SoCal types are brave enough to venture behind the Orange Curtain, try to make it out to The Swallows Inn in San Juan Capistrano this weekend, March 26 - 28, to catch Chris Gaffney and his backing band, The Cold Hard Facts. The Swallows Inn is one of the last great little honky tonks in Southern California and a regular stomping grounds for Chris and the band. For this reason, it has been chosen as the site for a series of live recordings that will be included on the re-issue of Gaffney's 1986 "Road to Indio" debut album. Although Chris will also perform on Friday evening, the live recordings will take place on March 27 and 28, this Saturday from 8:30 pm - 12:30 a.m., and Sunday, from 4:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. The Swallows Inn is located at 31786 Camino Capistrano, off the 5 freeway, exit west on Ortega; (949) 493-3188. Admission is free, but be sure to arrive early as this place fills up quickly when Chris is in the house. The first-time-on-cd-reissue of "Road to Indio" is slated for a June release on Foothill Recordings. Back to my lurking (and living vicariously through all the SXSW reports), Jeanne
RE: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
If a record label released material without the consent of the artist, wouldn't it be obvious that something rotten was going on? If so, what's the difference here? The financial principle is an important one, but it's not the only one; the principle of an artist's control over what material gets into the marketplace is another one, and there's a pretty obvious violation of it here. Jon Weisberger I guess it's like arguing politics and religion - people have pre-set opinions and discussion isn't going to change one's mind. The financial aspect is the overwhelming point, imo. If he's looking to get concert recordings or unreleased b-sides on cdr, without money exchanging hands, then I'm all for it. (Most audience- recorded boots bite in the quality range, as far as I've found.) This also naively assumes that the person buys all the official product once it becomes available anyway (the few boots I have are in addition to owning entire available catalog - Lloyd Cole, the Replacements, etc...) I can respect the "artist's control over material" argument, but when it comes to a decision over trading (or even buying) cdrs of material that isn't currently available (like current Mark Eitzel shows with new songs and no release date in sight), my fannish devotion overwhelms that concern, and I can sleep with that burden. I'll be at the shows, I'll buy the official record, but I want more than that. I want cd versions of vinyl only songs from old 12" singles, I want that live cover of a VU song, etc... In elementary terms, it's a "what they don't know, won't hurt them" logic - not very defensible, but I'm sticking to it. Reading Nancy's well-written post, I still feel this way. Because the artist wouldn't have a way of directly netting money from taped concerts (unless they release their own concert cds), I can't see it as money from the artist. All the Dead, Dylan, Van Morrison tapes out there, where each concert has its own unique moments - some people want tapes of as many shows as they can find, and there's no way a single (or multiple) official release would satisfy the craving. And - unless the artist AND venue have come out as tape-friendly - I doubt someone would risk losing their MiniDisc recorder by asking a performer for permission, so it'll remain an underground pursuit. But within my gray moral boundaries, I'd never dub a cdr of an official recording. That subverts the whole fan/devotee platform from where I derive a lot of my listening pleasure. I would tape a song or two on a mix tape, in hopes of influencing official purchases by the recipient, however. Chris, music slut np: Yo La Tengo - Electr-O-Pura, official version...
Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it
In a message dated 3/24/99 12:31:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because the artist wouldn't have a way of directly netting money from taped concerts The artist is not making anything off this, but seriosly there are people out there who are. Like I said, it is flattering when someone tapes a show. Passing around a couple copies to friends is no big deal. But there has to be a line drawn there somewhere. Someone right now is selling t-shirts for $20 plus postage of a live concert shot of Todd. They are calling it the "unofficial Todd Snider T-shirt"... they also have tapes, bootleg CDs and videos for sale. Meanwhile, Todd ain't getting any richer, these guys are. His manager can only police so much. Is there not any dignity among fans. If they are real fans, how can they do this. No they are not fans, they are untalented assholes out to make a buck off of someone elses talent. Artist get bootlegged all the time, but we have to watch out for people 24 hrs a day to not get ripped. We can't moniter every single soul, damn. But it sucks when we browse the internet and see our stuff being pimped out, or even worse, go into a record store overseas to try to sell some records, only to find out they already have bootlegs. I say, bootlegg me baby, but when you start making more dough off merchandise than me, can ya buy me dinner or throw me a bone, hey, help me out on rent?
RE: boot me baby, but don't sell it
Nancy says: The artist is not making anything off this, but seriosly there are people out there who are. Like I said, it is flattering when someone tapes a show. Passing around a couple copies to friends is no big deal. But there has to be a line drawn there somewhere. Posts on the Internet that traffic indiscriminately in such recordings might be a good place, eh? If they are real fans, how can they do this. Good question. I've always wondered how someone who thinks that their *want* outweighs any ethical (not to mention legal) consideration for the artist in question can call themselves a fan. BTW, this (which, it should be obvious, is *not* from Nancy): the difference is that there's a contractual, legal relationship between artist and company that either disallows, or allows, the company to release with or without consent of the artist. there is no such agreement between the public and the artist. is mighty lame. There isn't a contract between the artist and the public because there's a LAW that says that an artist's material belongs to the artist until s/he assigns the right to reproduce it to someone else in a contract. According to this argument, a company would be free to release material as long as it DIDN'T have a contract. The technical term for this is "ass-backwards." Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Lloyd Cole (was RE: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades)
once it becomes available anyway (the few boots I have are in addition to owning entire available catalog - Lloyd Cole, the Replacements, etc...) There's a name I don't believe I've seen show up here before (or at least not in a long time)anyone know what Lloyd Cole is up to these days? TL (ob. twang content: he mentions George Jones in a song on his self-titled album.)
Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it
In a message dated 3/24/99 2:10:55 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I say, bootlegg me baby, but when you start making more dough off merchandise than me, can ya buy me dinner or throw me a bone, hey, help me out on rent? how about i just continue to show up at your shows, drink booze from the clubowners who pay you, buy your records, maybe a tshirt, etc. i'd say that's helping pay the bills, wouldn't you?
RE: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
At 10:29 AM -0800 on 3/24/99, Hill, Christopher J wrote: And - unless the artist AND venue have come out as tape-friendly - I doubt someone would risk losing their MiniDisc recorder by asking a performer for permission, so it'll remain an underground pursuit. There's a list of taper-friendly performers on the Web; it also includes any conditions they set. I don't have a URL, but it's posted at many sites; searching for something along the lines of "tape" and "trade" and "permission" should nail it pretty quickly. Bob
Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it
At 2:09 PM -0500 on 3/24/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone right now is selling t-shirts for $20 plus postage of a live concert shot of Todd. They are calling it the "unofficial Todd Snider T-shirt"... Were I working with Todd, I might inquire to this guy about buying out the stock at $17 or $18 a pop and then selling them at gigs and over the Web for $22 or so. I'm not saying the guy should be doing this. I'm saying that he sounds like he can be co-opted pretty easily. Bob
RE: Lloyd Cole (twangless)
Leaping up in promotion of a fave - He's got a new backing band (more a gang of friends than followers) - Michael Koch, Jill Sobule, Dave Derby, and Rafa Maciejek - dubbed the Negatives. Tracks are apparently done for a new album, but from a fan conversation relayed on the LC mailing list, it's not coming anytime soon. There is a LC song on the _Pop Romantique_ compilation, a cover of Dylan's "If You Gotta Go, Go Now", sung in French. This joins a new UK compilation, the 20 song _The Lloyd Cole Collection_, which includes two new songs, "That Boy" and "Fool You Are". A two-part "That Boy" UK single was released, then pulled back (anyone who can find me copies, my first born, arm leg, whatever - it's yours). Along with the delayed LC the Negatives disc (hopefully out on Ryko this year), Lloyd's written a soundtrack of instrumental music, in a soundtrack vein, which might or might not be released. And, given the iffiness of this future music, he's said recently that he's going to go back to school and bail on the music biz. *sigh* As close to an official LC site as exists: http://songwriting.com/lloydcole/ further ob twang: my favorite LC song is "Why I Love Country Music", off _Easy Pieces_. Chris np: Willard Grant Conspiracy, _Flying Low_ There's a name I don't believe I've seen show up here before (or at least not in a long time)anyone know what Lloyd Cole is up to these days? TL (ob. twang content: he mentions George Jones in a song on his self-titled album.)
Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There isn't a contract between the artist and the public because there's a LAW that says that an artist's material belongs to the artist until s/he assigns the right to reproduce it to someone else in a contract. According to this argument, a company would be free to release material as long as it DIDN'T have a contract. The technical term for this is "ass-backwards." Agree Following all of this bootlegging, music stealin', moral lacking, illegal tappin' line of discussion --- someone might want to review the laws which are nicely displayed on the WEB pages of ASCAP, BMI and SESAC. Seems to me, it's pretty clear that no matter how much you "support" a musician by buying their product, it'll be a pathetic bargaining chip at the time a judge is figuring out your fine or prison sentence. Kate.
RE: majordomo/listproc change in P2?
And the digest is now an email with an attachment for each seperate email in the digest. In other words 52 attachments for today. Not so bad considering this was a slow P2 day. The thought of a digest with upwards of 150 attachments scares me, though. steve 150 attachments is damn scary. Hopefully this is only a temporary thing. Anyone care to shed any light on it? Listmeister??
Fw: NPR V-Roys performance chat
Howdy, Scott Carpenter sent this to me, but I don't think he sent a copy to P2. So, here ya go... -- Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 03:34 PM Subject: NPR V-Roys performance chat Catch the V-roys for a 17 minute performance and chat on Weekend Edition Sunday with Liane Hansen, Sunday March 28th! OK, here's the thing for Tennessee Public Radio listeners. WUOT in Knoxville does not carry the Sunday Morning Edition but WNCW out of Spindale NC does at 86.7 FM. So, in Knoxville tune in to WNCW Sunday from 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. That puts the V-Roys on at about 8:40 a.m. WPLN-FM 90.3 Nashville Public Radio airs our show from 7:00 am to 9:00 am. The Memphis station - WKNO - also carries the show from 7:00 am to 9:00 am. Sorry I don't have times for places out of Tennessee and Western NC but hopefully you can run that down in your area. Seeya, Scotch -- I miss hearing y'all's debates and useful information. Heck, I miss Matt Cook... I'll be back onlist soon (and then I'll be tired of y'all...). Take care, Shane
RE: boot me baby, but don't sell it
If they are real fans, how can they do this. Good question. I've always wondered how someone who thinks that their *want* outweighs any ethical (not to mention legal) consideration for the artist in question can call themselves a fan. Jon Weisberger http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?db=*term=fan fan n 1: a device for creating a current of air by movement of a surface or surfaces 2: an enthusiastic devotee of sports [syn: sports fan] 3: an ardent follower [syn: buff, devotee, lover, afficionado] v 1: strike out a batter, in baseball [syn: strike out] 2: make fiercer; as of emotions; "fan hatred" 3: agitate the air 4: separate from chaff; of grain [syn: winnow] With my "want" of a concert boot that somebody's selling/trading, I think I fit under # 3. I may not relish paying $15 for a homemade concert cdr, or $30 for a cdr of b-sides that someone else has spent years assembling (though THAT one I did willingly), but if I have to choose between coloring in the lines and having one or two official discs or scrawling outside and having as many as possible, give me the drunken crayon and the broke checkbook, baby! Not that I don't think the outbreak of homemade cdr boots isn't regrettable, but hey - welcome to capitalism. If there's a buck to be made... And nope, don't consider these people "fans". Seems to me, it's pretty clear that no matter how much you "support" a musician by buying their product, it'll be a pathetic bargaining chip at the time a judge is figuring out your fine or prison sentence. Kate. 60 days community service for purchasing from Tunnel Records? You think? GrayZone may go after Kiss the Stone or the cdr maker who's foolish enough to advertise on newsgroups, but I can't EVER see them coming after the consumer. What would they gain? Chris awash in moral gray, but agreeing with the subject
RE: majordomo/listproc change in P2?
At 2:30 PM -0600 on 3/24/99, Ferguson, Dan wrote: And the digest is now an email with an attachment for each seperate email in the digest. In other words 52 attachments for today. Not so bad considering this was a slow P2 day. The thought of a digest with upwards of 150 attachments scares me, though. steve 150 attachments is damn scary. Hopefully this is only a temporary thing. Anyone care to shed any light on it? Listmeister?? It would certainly explain why he's been so damned cranky for so long. g Bob
Re: Gaffney to record shows at Swallows Inn this weekend
Thanks for the tip! Some of us actually, believe it or not, LIVE behind the Orange Curtain. (I can hardly believe it myself.) But the Swallows is every bit as great as Jeanne suggests, and anyone who can should try to make this show. --- Jeanne Berrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, In light of recent Dave Alvin posts with Chris Gaffney mentions, I thought some of you might be interested in the following information: If any of you SoCal types are brave enough to venture behind the Orange Curtain, try to make it out to The Swallows Inn in San Juan Capistrano this weekend, March 26 - 28, to catch Chris Gaffney and his backing band, The Cold Hard Facts. The Swallows Inn is one of the last great little honky tonks in Southern California and a regular stomping grounds for Chris and the band. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: majordomo/listproc change in P2?
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Bob Soron wrote: At 2:30 PM -0600 on 3/24/99, Ferguson, Dan wrote: 150 attachments is damn scary. Hopefully this is only a temporary thing. Anyone care to shed any light on it? Listmeister?? It would certainly explain why he's been so damned cranky for so long. g I've no idea what those fine folks over at UW computing are up to. I'll email 'em and see if I can get some answers. And I'm *not* cranky -- only sleep-deprived.g--don
Re: ESPN brackets
Hey there, Chad Hamilton: Does anyone know how to find out the results to date for the brackets we filled out. I can't seem to find it anywhere on the ESPN page. Sorry for the fluff. The easiest way is to go through the 'fantasy' hot link which is on pretty much every page, then to NCAA Basketball and from there to either your entry, twangfest, or the 'real' brackets. Later... CK in last place ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/24/99 2:10:55 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone right now is selling t-shirts for $20 plus postage of a live concert shot of Todd. They are calling it the "unofficial Todd Snider T-shirt"... they also have tapes, bootleg CDs and videos for sale. Meanwhile, Todd ain't getting any richer, these guys are. look, sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but this is life, and it ain't going away. maybe its not fair, but it goes along with the territory of being a performer for the public. and if you're lucky enough, as todd seems to be, to have a hard core following who will buy t-shirts of him for 20 bucks, then he should be happy about it. if todd really has a problem with people buying this stuff, and others making dough off of him, than maybe he oughta get busy and throw out some stuff on his own, and then he can prosper as well. course, he can always choose another career. this is an insulting and outrageous thing to say. He has every right and duty to find this bastard and prosecute him for theft. "Life" my ass. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
RE: boot me baby, but don't sell it
fan n 1: a device for creating a current of air by movement of a surface or surfaces 2: an enthusiastic devotee of sports [syn: sports fan] 3: an ardent follower [syn: buff, devotee, lover, afficionado]... With my "want" of a concert boot that somebody's selling/trading, I think I fit under # 3. So does a stalker, who might also claim to be a devoted lover. What's the difference? Nancy says: I don't want stuff that I am not proud of out there. and given that it's *her* stuff, what makes someone think that they have more of a right to control it than she does? She also says: It still is not fair for others to make money off him without permission, I don't care how many t-shirts you buy. That's exactly right, and I don't even like Todd Snider g. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
V-Roys Weekend Edition Sunday
The V-Roys will be on Weekend Edition this Sunday March 28th. * Warning Chicago contingency...I'll be in for the Steve Earle/Del McCoury show and instore this week.--t2 grassroots media 1815 Division St. Ste. 202 Nashville, TN 37203 (615) 340-9596
Re: Country music documentary
This might be worth checking out. Jim N. "Joe Cline" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24 3:18 PM CBS, TNN Combine of Documentary .c The Associated Press By JIM PATTERSON NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Minutes into the 13-part ``Century of Country'' documentary, it's clear how broad an undertaking it is to even define country music, much less tell its story. ``Country music is the same thing as the blues,'' Waylon Jennings opines. ``Country music is contemporary jazz,'' singer Ray Price declares. Harlan Howard, the great country music songwriter (``Busted,'' ``I Fall to Pieces''), offers this: ``Basically, it's the people's music. We really do deal with divorces and tragedies and so forth. And sometimes people think we're kind of hokey. But country music is here and it always will be.'' Based on previews of two episodes -- one covering pioneers like Jimmie Rodgers and The Carter Family and the other on bluegrass and Western swing -- ``Century of Country'' captures the wide scope of country music and celebrates it. The documentary touches on women in country music, rockabilly, bluegrass, Western swing, the Grand Ole Opry and honky-tonk music. Many current stars are interviewed, and the lives of greats like Hank Williams Sr., Jimmie Rodgers and Patsy Cline are covered. The Nashville Network will air the first of 13 weekly one-hour segments of ``Century of Country'' at 8 p.m. EST Wednesday (March 31). The host is actor James Garner and CBS newsman Bob Schieffer narrates. ``Century of Country'' marks the first collaboration between TNN and CBS News. Westinghouse Electric Corp., which owns CBS, bought TNN in 1997. ``I had more fun,'' said Schieffer, host of the weekly news show ``Face the Nation'' on CBS. ``Maybe because it was such a break after covering Monica Lewinsky and Ken Starr. It was like a vacation to me. ``I really learned a lot. They have gone out and interviewed everybody that you ever heard of, and some that you've never heard of.'' Among the things Schieffer learned: ``Apparently Jimmie Rodgers, who was The Singing Brakeman, was the first person to yodel,'' he said. ``You would think it came from ranches or something Western. ``But apparently he heard some Swedish guy yodel,'' Schieffer said with a laugh. The series is a step forward for TNN, whose claim to be THE country music cable station has slipped since it started showing a new version of ``Roller Derby'' and reruns of ``The Waltons'' and ``Dukes of Hazzard.'' But if you're looking for a critical viewpoint of country music, wait until the Bravo cable channel reruns the three episodes of its excellent ``Naked Nashville.'' TNN has always been a Nashville booster rather than a critic, and ``Century of Country'' sidesteps anything that could dampen the party. The shows still are a lot of fun, however. For example, it's hard to resist the enthusiasm of singer Marty Stuart. ``You can wear cool clothes,'' Stuart says in the opening episode, ``Celebration of Country.'' ``You can wear your hair goofy. Girls like you. You get applause. You get to live this nomad lifestyle. And you get paid for it.'' During the segment on bluegrass, 18-year-old mandolin player Chris Thile pays tribute to late bluegrass founder Bill Monroe, then reveals he's working on combining bluegrass and classical music. ``I find there's an amazing energy in Bach that is kind of like some of the stuff that Bill Monroe was coming out with,'' Thile said. ``I wrote a song where I try to get some of that same energy with the bluegrass background in it -- sort of a `grassical' song.'' Ricky Skaggs tries to explain how exciting Bill Monroe and the Blue Grass Boys were in their heyday. ``When they were on the stage it sounded like the Beatles were on stage,'' Skaggs said. ``I hear these country people screaming at the top of their voices hearing this new music that no one had ever heard before. It was a new sound, it was a new day for this music.'' Schieffer said he came into the assignment thinking he knew something about country music from a lifetime of listening. He saw Ernest Tubb perform when he was a boy in Fort Worth, Texas, then became a fan of Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings. The assignment showed him he had much to learn. ``If you have just the vaguest interest in country music, you'll find this 13 hours just fascinating,'' Schieffer said. Joe Cline ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Charlotte Jack-of-all-trades; unemployed in all of them
artistic control vs. bootlegging
At 12:17 PM -0500 24/3/99, Jon Weisberger wrote: From the clipped bit, it reads like he's looking for non-released material, and wants to trade. As an artist, what's your take on that? If a record label released material without the consent of the artist, wouldn't it be obvious that something rotten was going on? If so, what's the difference here? The financial principle is an important one, but it's not the only one; the principle of an artist's control over what material gets into the marketplace is another one, and there's a pretty obvious violation of it here. But even that principle of artistic control isn't cut and dried, I think. I guess the much used counter-example (so much so that it's become something of a cliche) is the case of Kafka. Is it unethical to read "The Trial" because Kafka's death-bed wish to his publisher Max Brod was to destroy the manuscript? And then there's the question of what is meant by "the marketplace". If someone is simply trading tapes/CDs of Todd Snider performances, with no cash changing hands, are those tapes/CDs in a marketplace at all? I think it is important to reiterate here that the bulk (perhaps even the entirety) of the pro-tape trading crowd on this list do *not* make a single dime on any of their transactions. The notion of sleazy bootleggers getting rich on the intellectual property of uncompensated artists is a bit of a straw dog as it pertains to the discussion here. Ross Whitwam[EMAIL PROTECTED] Molecular Pharmacology Therapeutics Program Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, NYC
Change in ListProc digest format (fwd)
Now a word from our fearless listma. Sorry I didn't post this before, didn't realize it would be a big deal, I guess. Just getting cranky Donmeister off the hook. Laura -- To: UW Listproc Owners Summary --- Effective March 22, 1999 the UW ListProc server will change the format of digests. The new default setting will be to send digests in MIME (Multipurpose Internet Message Extensions) format. The change will affect only a few people; possibly none of your list subscribers. Only individual subscribers who have their "mail mode" set to "digest" will see any change in what they receive. More detail --- Exactly what is changing? Only the format of list digest messages will change. Currently all the list postings are concatenated together in the body of the digest message. To read postings you must scroll through the entire message. Taking any action on a single message in the digest is difficult. When digests are sent using MIME, each original posting is attached separately to the digest message. As a result, people reading a digest can easily see the number and subjects for the postings. They can use their email program to act on individual messages, replying, saving or forwarding only those of interest. What if the new digest format presents problems for subscribers? Subscribers using modern email client programs will probably be thankful for the change to MIME digests. But some subscribers may wish to continue getting digests in the old format. If they can't upgrade to a more modern email client which handles MIME digests, they can configure their ListProc subscription to receive digests in the old format. They'll need to use the "set" command. ListProc will send information in response to a help set command, or see http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/subscribers/advanced.html#set
Beale Street Music Festival
Here are just a few of the people who are playing at the Beale Street Music Festival May 7, 8, 9 on the river at Tom Lee Park Reba Russell Band KoKo Taylor Wilson Picket Dr. John Clarece Carter Booker T Sheryl Crow Bobby Blue Bland Marcia Ball James Cotton Billy Lee Riley (about the only real rockabilly there) The Bar-Kays Los Lobos R.L. Burnside Not much twang, but fun anyway!
The New Way
From a NY Times article on the music industry, discussing changes between previous SXSWs and the most recent one: The change was best represented by the agenda of one scout from a major label. Speaking on condition of anonymity, he said he had come here not to sign a band, but to prevent his label from signing one. The group's contract with his label had expired, he said, and he wanted to make sure no one else at the label tried to renew it at the band's showcase performance. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: THE OTHER SIDE of Beale Street Music Festival
I guess it is not fair to not mention these artist, also coming to the Beale Street Music Festival Sammy Hagar Hootie and the Blowfish Robin Trower Peter Frampton and... Cheap Trick (YEAH!)
Re: Beale Street Music Festival
Got any info. on tickets, press passes, etc.? Deb
Re: Beale Street Music Festival
Is this free (hah hah hah . . . that's a good one) or what? Sounds fun. Lance . . .
Re: Change in ListProc digest format (fwd)
Jeez, a single week in Texas, and I had completely forgotten about that. I'm afraid I may have left more brain cells down there than I had realized.g Anyway, thanks Laura.--don the dumb one
P2 web postings? (was Re: majordomo/listproc change in P2?)
Can someone send me offlist the URL for the webpage where P2 is posted? I have all email attachments directed to /dev/null (where they belong), but now I can no longer read P2 after the changes to the listproc. I do still get the digest summary, which is how I'm assuming there's been some marginal discussion on this topic, but no actual messages. thanks. And sorry about the meta-message. Bob NP: Michelle Malone: Beneath the Devil Moon
glass houses:(was Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it)
so now that i've been beaten up for my views on bootlegging, am i to assume that all those that have had a dissenting view point in one form or another have never purchased, or even traded for, such an item? just curious...
emmy, dolly, and linda
Just a note (wasn't sure if somebody had mentioned it) but Dolly, Linda Ronstadt and Emmy will be on Letterman tonight. (btw, does anyone have opinions on their new album?) Evan Cooper btw, there's a review of the Tom Waits SXSW show in today's NY Times - not sure if it's on the Web version.
Re: Beale Street Music Festival - ticket info
Duh, thanks Deb, I guess that would help huh? Daily tickets are $14 in advance at all Ticketmaster locations / $19 beginning May 7. A special 3-day pass is $36, available only through April 30. You can contact John Doyle at Barking Dog for media passes, need to fax a request on company letterhead bla bla. He has a form he will ask you to fill out. John's fax # is (901) 725-0626 Barking Dog # is (901) 725-7200 If you are freelancing for no particular publication, such as a photographer who may pass along photos to several mags, they have a special "freelancer application form." I will be working at one of the stages but not sure which one yet. Probably not main stage, but 2nd stage (stage manager or production princess, not sure what yet) If you think you are going to come, stay in touch with me and I will give you more info where I will be for you to call if you have any problems. Nancy
Re: glass houses:(was Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it)
I have never bought a bootleg that I am aware of, I feel guilty buying a cutout from Cats. I sell "official bootlegs" on my web page and call them the "Tijuana Tapes" (when the bastard is working) for real cheap. If someone wants to hear every bad old demo I did, more power to them. If someone wants to trade because they don't have money (there always is atleast one letter from a prisoner somewhere) I take mojos, icons and religious curios.
Re: Beale Street Music Festival - ticket info
Thanks for the information Nancy. I might try to take it in. Deb
Bootlegs vrs. Used CDs
Do any of you who are against bootlegs buy used CDs? The artist receives nothing from them either. Are they also a form of theft? Is Garth Brooks right?
Re: P2 web postings? (was Re: majordomo/listproc change in P2?)
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Robert Wray wrote: Can someone send me offlist the URL for the webpage where P2 is posted? I have all email attachments directed to /dev/null (where they belong), but now I can no longer read P2 after the changes to the listproc. The P2 mirror site web page seems to have been discontinued, so you'll need to make do with getting the email version. I forwarded Bob the instructions for switching back to the old digest format, and I'll do the same whenever some other poor soul on digest posts about not bein' able to read P2.--don
Re: THE OTHER SIDE of Beale Street Music Festival
In a message dated 3/24/99 4:04:19 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess it is not fair to not mention these artist, also coming to the Beale Street Music Festival Sammy Hagar Hootie and the Blowfish Robin Trower Peter Frampton and... Cheap Trick (YEAH!) you would be surprised how many P2ers like this list better than the other one. not me, of course. Slim
Re: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
I don't have near enough time, or energy, to listen to all the "official" recordings out there, even in our funny little genre. Where do you folks find the time to not only listen to the legit stuff, but to ferret out all the boots, too? How do you find time to watch "The Simpsons" or go see a movie, or have a job, or eat food? -- Terry Smith ps I did have the time to read all the entertaining posts about SXSW -- I'm glad you all posted them, rather than shoving them over to the Wangfest list.
Okeh Wranglers in Austin/Nashville
Apologies for the self promotion, but if I don't tell you all you'll never know! The Okeh Wranglers (my family's band) are making our first ever trip to America (we are English) and we have some gigs set up in Austin and Nashville. We play rocking country with a rootsy/swingy feel, with my older sister on lead guitar and vocals, my brother on drums, my younger sister on steel guitar and guitar, my mum on double bass, my dad on acoustic guitar and vocals and me on accordion and vocals (weird, I know!!) Anyway, these are the dates if anyone can make it Saturday 27th March - Continental Club, Austin (supporting Damnations TX) Thursday 1st April - La Zona Rosa, Austin Friday 2nd April - Cheapo Records, Austin Saturday 3rd April - Club 21, Austin Tuesday 6th April - Exit Inn, Nashville (small showcase of about 6 numbers) Saturday 10th April - Blue Grass Inn, Nashville Please email me if you need anymore info (or if you have some good advice!) although we leave Friday morning. I am *very* excited. :-) Louise -- If you like rocking country music, check out the Okeh Wranglers web site at: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bluesmoke
Re: ISO digital Todd Snider Blue Mt. trades
Lately, a few folks have been posting and then not putting their names on their contributions. I think it's polite -- just from the standpoint of more effective communication -- to sign your messages, so we'll know who the hell is writing them, and be able to connect the P-2er with earlier posts. I don't give a shit if the names are real; what's needed is an identifier, a label, a tag. And not signing your post results in instant deflation in value of whatever you're saying. Anonymity erodes credibility. And we promise not to laugh if your name is Ethelbert or Seymour or Eula or something like that. -- Terry Smith, whose mom's name is Eula -- a good ol' fashioned Texas name
Final Red Meat tourdates
Hello all you country music loving carpal tunnel victims! The dust has settled, and here's where Red Meat will be on tour in April, plus a couple of local SF bonus dates for those lucky enough to live in the Bay Area: 3/26 SF, CA Paradise Lounge w/ James Intveld 3/27 Sacramento, CA Harlow's w/ James Intveld 4/6 Nashville, TN Exit/In (Billy Block's Western Beat Radio) 4/7 Nashville, TN Robert's Western Wear 4/8 Chicago, IL The Hideout (Honky Tonk Living Room w/ Chris Mills) 4/9 Keokuk, IA In-store at the Disc Jockey Record Store (5 pm) 4/9 Keokuk, IA Myers Courtyard (9 pm) w/ Bluezillion 4/10 St. Louis, MO Blueberry Hill w/ Big Smith and Rockhouse Ramblers 4/11 Nashville, TN Douglas Corner Cafe 4/13 Lexington, KY Lynagh's 4/14 Louisville, KY Mercury Paw 4/15 Atlanta, GA Star Community Bar w/ Ex-Husbands 4/16 Chapel Hill, NC Local 506 and, waaay in the future: 7/21 Solano County Fair, Vallejo, CA w/ Chris LeDoux Thanks... Hope to see some of you Southerners and Midwesterners on our trip. I'm traveling with the band, so come on out and say hi! Owen Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Re: Final Red Meat tourdates
Owen Bly wrote: 4/9 Keokuk, IA In-store at the Disc Jockey Record Store (5 pm) 4/9 Keokuk, IA Myers Courtyard (9 pm) w/ Bluezillion Hmm, between Chicago and St. Louis you visit...*Keokuk*?!? Not Iowa City or Ames? Not, oh, I dunno, MINNEAPOLIS/ST. PAUL? g Well, it's all cool news anyway. I am jealous of the more fortunate. --Jamie S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wavetech.net/~swedberg http://www.usinternet.com/users/ndteegarden/bheaters
Re: Final Red Meat tourdates
Jamie Swedberg wrote: Owen Bly wrote: 4/9 Keokuk, IA In-store at the Disc Jockey Record Store (5 pm) 4/9 Keokuk, IA Myers Courtyard (9 pm) w/ Bluezillion Hmm, between Chicago and St. Louis you visit...*Keokuk*?!? Not Iowa City or Ames? Not, oh, I dunno, MINNEAPOLIS/ST. PAUL? g Well, it's all cool news anyway. I am jealous of the more fortunate. Yeah, apparently Junior and I couldn't weasel a KC-Lawrence visit either... b.s. n.p. Wayne Hancock THAT'S WHAT DADDY WANTS
Ray's Tokin, obviously For the Good Times
Oh dear! From "People Online" 3/24/99:*
ARRESTED: Grammy Award-winning country singer Ray Price ("For the
GoodTimes"), on a marijuana charge, near his Texas ranch. He was charged
withpossession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia and fined
$700.
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Re: THE OTHER SIDE of Beale Street Music Festival
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you would be surprised how many P2ers like this list better than the other one. Can anyone say Jerry Curry? g Har Harlet's see, I'd take Cheap Trick over darn near any alt-country band. Bill S./ Tom K., can I get a witness? Both Peter Frampton Robin Trower are competitive. Yeah, I'd love to see those guys as well. As for Hootie Sammy Hagaregads, even I have some standards. JC NP: Dwight - This Time PS: Now go away Deb...g
Re: Ray's Tokin, obviously For the Good Times
First this: ``Country music is contemporary jazz,'' singer Ray Price declares. Then this: ARRESTED: Grammy Award-winning country singer Ray Price on a marijuana charge,. .Coincidence? I think not. It's like connected somehow man.. Really kind of cosmic really. wow. Plate of shrimp. Stuart imagining eggs in the frying pan
Re: THE OTHER SIDE of Beale Street Music Festival
Jerry Curry wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you would be surprised how many P2ers like this list better than the
other one.
Can anyone say Jerry Curry? g
Har Harlet's see, I'd take Cheap Trick over darn near any
alt-country band. Bill S./ Tom K., can I get a witness?
Well, I'll stand up for Cheap Trick, Jerry. Which bands am I comparing them
with now? g
Both Peter Frampton Robin Trower are competitive. Yeah, I'd love to see
those guys as well. As for Hootie Sammy Hagaregads, even I have
some standards.
Hmm. I think I'd rather see Sammy Hagar do some of his hits ("Cruisin and
Boozin", "Red", "I Can't Drive 55")than any of the rest of that lot though.
Frampton? Please. Robin Trower? Sorry man, too many high school nights wishing
we had some more of whatever hallucinogen we didn't have. Let's call it a
Hendrix homage.
Hootie? Well, they seem like nice fellers...g
b.s.
wishing he was hearing THIS TIME
Re: glass houses:(was Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it)
At 5:19 PM -0500 on 3/24/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so now that i've been beaten up for my views on bootlegging, am i to assume that all those that have had a dissenting view point in one form or another have never purchased, or even traded for, such an item? just curious... In one of those wonderful coincidences, exactly a year ago tomorrow, one of the anti-bootleggers in the thread sent me mail offlist noting that he had acquired a fair number of bootlegs in the course of things, but doesn't mention it because the times he has, he was swamped with requests for copies, and there are sometimes other reasons for being cagey. Beyond the paraphrase, I won't reproduce private mail, of course, or disclose the identity. But yes, at least one person seems to be playing both sides of the fence. Bob
Twangfest Auction
The next Ebay? To raise money for Twangfest (in the spirit of all those PBS fundraisers), we're pulling together an internet auction. We plan to hold the auction during the first week of May. It will be run off the Twangfest web site. Details for that will follow. Right now we are trolling for donations. We already have a few very impressive items in the vault (items autographed by some pretty well-known artists, who also happen to be fictional future ex-husbands to a few P2 gals. g). For example, the Sovines are donating one of their snazzy tuxedo jackets (worn on the cover of their soon to be released cd) and a canned ham. Fear and Whiskey are donating a limited edition FW baseball cap designed by Kinky Friedman. Jerry Curry is donating that hideously ugly shirt that's been talked about so much on the Fluff list. Bill "The Sliver" Silvers is donating one of his purses. CK promises to give us a sweatpant leg hat. Maybe Shane will donate a case of fluff. Twangfest will donate one all access backstage pass and badge (Neal?). Alex promises to buy a round of shots for the highest bidder's favorite band. Get the picture? We need stuff. No item is too trivial or, well, stupid. We'd like to auction off P2 band cd/tapes, t-shirts, bumper stickers, general swag, etc. We'll probably auction them off in lots of 5 or so. If every P2 band could donate a cd and t-shirt or whatever, it would be a beautiful thing. The Twang Gods and Goddesses would surely smile down upon you. All you record labels, music stores, publications, etc. out there, I'm sure you can find something to give us. How about a gift certificate? So, if anyone has anything to offer, please contact us. Remember, we know your email addresses. If we don't hear from you, we'll come a callin'. This is going to be a lot of fun. We promise. Keep an eye open for updates. Thanks for your time and thanks for the help! Meshel and Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ray's Tokin, obviously For the Good Times
ARRESTED: Grammy Award-winning country singer Ray Price (For the GoodTimes), on a marijuana charge, near his Texas ranch. He was charged withpossession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia and fined $700. Mike Hays My eyes are burnin' darlin' While my heart is sad and yearnin' Yearnin' yearnin' burnin' just for you Lance . . .
Re: NO TWANG Sammy Hagar at Beale Street....egads
Sammy Hagaregads Get this ya'll, the owner of the newsweekly I am music ed of asked me to set up an interview with him Sammy apparantly has something to do with that new Tequiza beer. So now I have to find someone who wants to do the interview. I'm afraid if I did it I would not be able to get beyond asking him about his Rick Springfield cover
Re: THE OTHER SIDE of Beale Street Music Festival
Hmm. I think I'd rather see Sammy Hagar do some of his hits ("Cruisin and
Boozin", "Red", "I Can't Drive 55")than any of the rest of that lot though.
Frampton? Please. Robin Trower? Sorry man, too many high school nights
wishing
we had some more of whatever hallucinogen we didn't have. Let's call it a
Hendrix homage. Hootie? Well, they seem like nice fellers...g
b.s.
Well it's a Sammy Hagar weekend
It's a Sammy Hagar - state of mind
It's a Sammy Hagar weekend
It's a Sammy Hagar - way of life
We're gonna drink some beer
Smoke some pot
Snort some coke
And then drive, drive over 55
Cuz it's a Sammy Hagar weekend
It's a big man's day
We got our - Metallica t-shirts
We got out little tiny, baby mustache
We got our, jacked-up Camaro
We're sittin' in the parking lot of Anaheim Stadium
Drinkin' beer
Smokin' pot
Snortin' coke
And then we'll drive, drive over 55
Cuz it's a Sammy Hagar weekend
Well, it's a big man's day
(solo)
We're gonna drink some beer
Smoke some pot
Snort some coke
And then drive, drive over 55
Cuz it's a Sammy Hagar weekend
It's a big man's day
A Sammy Hagar weekend
A Sammy Hagar weekend, yeah
Just a'cruisin' and boozin,' yeah
On a Sammy Hagar weekend . . .
(outro to backwards masking)
-- Bob Forrest
Lance . . .
Ray Price
Just forwarded to me by Jeff Remz from "Country Standard Time." I just *knew* that Ray was still a hellraiser. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts Price Faces Drug Charges (Last updated 4:14 AM ET March 24) (MOUNT PLEASANT, Texas) -- Country crooner Ray Price has been arrested on drug charges. The Grammy award-winning singer was arrested last week and charged with possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia at his Texas ranch. He was fined 700 dollars.
Re: NATO bombs
At 10:18 PM 3/23/99 +0100, you wrote: I'm sorry for using this space for political themes but this is faster way to inform all my friends + i'll be short. NATO planned bombing YU tonight or some of next days and our government proclaimed state of high combativeness so if i don't answer on your letters it'll not be anything unusual. Please wait a while. Thanx ! Alex Alex, don't forget to duck. Hopefully this unpleasentness will be over soon. Considering the circumstances, please don't think it rude of me to hope that we do not meet in the near future. God Bless, and be careful. Underway in 11 days Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
Chicago: When are Steve and Del at Borders?
I've heard two reports that Earle McCoury are at Borders tomorrow (Thursday) at 1 PM for an instore. But just today comes a note from someone who says the unofficial Earle page lists the instore on Friday. Anyone able to pin this down? Bob
Re: Ray Price
My great uncle was a horse trainer for Ray. I wonder if he smoked dope to? I hope so. Bob -- Management-(Rick Waring) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Management-(Ken Glidewell) (513)-868-7064 Press General Info-(Bob Burns) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Big In Iowa Web Page- http://www.biginiowa.com Blue Rose Records - http://www.bluerose-records.com/
Grubbs at knitting factory
Avant Twang Gang: Caught David Grubbs solo at the Knitting Factory on Saturday night. He played some new material including an overture of a piece he has based on Steven Crane's The Blue Hotel. He said Thrill Jockey is releasing it soon, though its available on Rectagle via import. Any of the other avant twang gang heard this yet? Overall, I thought it was a good show for David, but I think the sound man was either deaf or insane. David had CD-R's of drones and other electroacoustics he played with, but they were way too far over the top of his picking. But since I was close to the stage, i got a pretty good sense of what he was doing on the guitar. His playing seems much sharper now than whn I saw him in 96. His showmanship has improved as well. But he's still my favorite twangified art geek. Dan Rigney http://www.moths.com
Re: Ray's Tokin, obviously For the Good Times
lance davis wrote:
ARRESTED: Grammy Award-winning country singer Ray Price ("For the
Good
Times"), on a marijuana charge, near his Texas ranch. He was charged
with
possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia and fined $700.
I swear when I saw him at ACL taping I thought he was stoned. His eyes
were very red and very glassy.
