Re: Upload to IMAP crashes

2004-06-04 Thread Jonathan Greene

I got that with just a simple message no attachment...

On Jun 4, 2004, at 12:43 AM, Victor Orly wrote:

 Has anyone noticed that when copying and email with a big (1-5 MB)
 attachment from a local folder to an IMAP folder PM5 likes to crash 
 alot?

 Victor







Re: AOL via IMAP and PowerMail 5

2004-06-03 Thread Jonathan Greene

welcome to the club...

It seems you can only auto-connect to a single IMAP account at a time.  
The others you manually connect to and then they stay active...

On Jun 2, 2004, at 7:38 PM, Nary Lakshmanan wrote:

 I have multiple AOL accounts, which they have (thankfully) now allowed 
 us
 to access via 3rd party clients and IMAP.  This works quite well in 
 Apple
 Mail (Jaguar  Panther).  However, in PowerMail, I cannot seem to
 automatically connect to all those accounts at the same time.  I have 
 to
 choose Connect... for each account individually.  Why is this so, and
 what can I do to rectify this?

 -- Nary








Re: Re(2): IMAP options?

2004-05-31 Thread Jonathan Greene

They do technically reside on the server, but Mail.app and Entourage can
both moves messages around to either local or remote folders...

On 5/31/04 4:22 PM, Mirko Kranenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something
like:

 As far as I remember, IMAP is pretty much on itself. The folders and the
 messages do not obey to the rules. I think that is because they
 technically do not reside on your Mac, but on the server.
 
 I only dabble with IMAP with my .Mac account, but always revert it to POP
 with leaving the messages on the server for 10 days. Best of both worlds
 for me.




Re: IMAP options?

2004-05-31 Thread Jonathan Greene

Anyone?  Anyone using IMAP?

On 5/31/04 1:15 PM, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] said
something like:

 Some questions - 
 
 1 - I can't figure out how to move a message past the local folders with
 a filter... is this possible?
 
 2 - Is there a way to hide deleted IMAP messages until they are
 officially synced and deleted?  Things can get pretty cluttered until you
 hit expunge...
 
 Thanks,
 JG




hello again!

2004-05-27 Thread Jonathan Greene

Been a while since I used PowerMail... At least a year or so...

I am trying to get back up to speed with v.5 and instantly recall the
power and speed of the app.  Have a question or two some of the more
experienced users might be able to help out with...

I'm an IMAP user and find that the connection settings are somewhat
unique in PM compared to other apps... You set a connection per account,
rather than letting one connection schedule handle multiple... at least
that is the current limitation based on the radio buttons!

I am trying to set up filters, but see I can only use local mailboxes for
storage... unless I am missing something.  Is that really the case?  If
it is... can anyone point me in the direction of a procmail lesson so I
can set some server side filtering up and just happily browse subscribed
folders?

Other than recent mail which only seems to support POP accounts - or
locally stored mail - is there a way to have an integrated In Tray view?
 I know I can set up all messages to just dump there, but that's not want
I was hoping to have.

Thanks in advance!

JG

-- 

Jonathan Greene
e [EMAIL PROTECTED]
m 917.560.3000
b http://www.atmasphere.net/wp




Re: CTM / manual / neglect vs. nurture

2003-05-24 Thread Jonathan Greene

Just so you know - that is a standard Mac feature... And works in any app.

-- 
I stopped for breakfast at the International House of Pan-
cakes. As soon as you walk into the restaurant you catch
the distinct, worldwide feel of the place. I was completely
baffled by the complex menu. So I just had the flapjack du
jour and the syrup steward helped me select a dry maple that
was busy but not precocious. -Dennis Miller

 From: Larry Samberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: PowerMail discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 12:54:48 -0400
 To: PowerMail discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED], Louis Cornelio
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CTM / manual / neglect vs. nurture
 
 I certainly agree. I found out yet one more neat feature this morning on
 the list (closing multiple windows at once).
 It would be nice if these were al documented.




Re: CTM / manual / neglect vs. nurture

2003-05-24 Thread Jonathan Greene

It's an excellent idea...  Seems quote foolish that a commercial piece of
software does not have an updated manual, and that the key sources of
information are coming through the user base.

-- 

We don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.

-- HP executive, responding to Apple Computer founders Steve Jobs'
and Steve Wozniak's attempts to interest the company in the personal
computer they had designed, 1976.

 From: Louis Cornelio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: PowerMail discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 09:45:54 -0700
 To: PowerMail discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CTM / manual / neglect vs. nurture
 
 
 problem: no updated manual.
 solution: CTM pays someone on this list writes an update.
 
 
 As CTM is selling the product  it is finding new users -- look at me,
 only been a user for a few months, one would think it in their interest
 to have an updated manual.
 
 Isn't it worth a couple hundred bucks to them to pay a free lance writer
 very familiar w/ PowerMail {like someone on this list} to update the
 manual to document many feature include the hints  options? {Not to
 mention known bugs  limitations}
 
 That would be one *easy* step to improving the PM package. surely a lot
 easier than fixing the non-functional search feature. ;-) Or dont they
 even bother to make the easy efforts to improve?
 
 If not, should we take such obvious neglect as a signal the end of
 development?
 
 I make this suggestion not so much because I care about having a manual I
 would like to see the product nurtured rather than neglected.. am
I wrong?
 
 
 
 
 
 




Re: Re(2): Spam Blocking Software

2003-05-17 Thread Jonathan Greene

Not only is it 9, it is not really even recommended to run in Classic...

Quark is a wonderful example of how to become arrogant and slow to innovate
when you have a large percent of market share.  I hope Adobe InDesign
continues to be adopted at its rapid pace and whoops them.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

On 5/17/03 9:40 AM, Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wow, quark is still os9? - I used to love quark (not it's upgrade policy)
 back in 94/95, them being so big, I expected to see them move quickly to
 osX. my biggy application now which was 'slow' in getting the jump to osX
 done is formz (modeling software) and they have finally made it too.
 
 it took much for me to switch to osX, couldn't let loose from os9,
 finally did the switch on my desktop at first with a lot of switching
 into classic and finally beginning of this year on my powerbook did the
 upgrade too and until yesterday (due to the umax astra 2200 scanner's
 software) I hadn't had the need in 5 months to use os9 - funny thing was,
 going back and working under os9 felt suddenly so alien, the most simple
 tasks became confusing, already so adjusted to osX and its workflow -
 just shows how nature adapts quickly to survive :)
 
 ---marlyse
 
 But SpamSieve requires OSX. I'm using OS 9.2.2.
 
 Just one more great argument to make the switch to OS X, George.  Unless
 you're using Quark XPress on a daily basis, I cannot think of a single
 reason to stay with 9 at this point.  SpamSieve is truly awesome
 software, as is OS X.
 
 
 
 

-- 
It is undesirable to believe a proposition when
 there is no ground whatever for supposing it true.
 -- Bertrand Russell




Re: Re(2): Spam Blocking Software

2003-05-16 Thread Jonathan Greene

Well - I can't help you there...I've been using OSX since it came out.  No 9
here.

On 5/16/03 2:25 PM, George Henne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But SpamSieve requires OSX. I'm using OS 9.2.2.
 
 George Henne 
 NS BASIC Corporation
 http://www.nsbasic.com
 
 I agree.  I've been using SpamSieve for months, and my accuracy rate is
 96.7%.  It's pretty easy to set up and manage, and it's fast.
 
 Dan
 
  Original message 
 Max Gossell, 11:07 AM, 5/16/03:
 
 I used to use SpamFire as well. But now I'm IN LOVE with SpamSieve (which
 I've recommended before). Found at http://www.c-command.com/spamsieve/.
 You couldn't even dream up anything better!! Much easier to use as well
 (running inside PowerMail) compared to  SpamFire.
 
 Max G
 
 
 At 2003-05-16, 13.51 CET, George Henne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've been using SpamFire for the past year, but it just doesn't seem to
 be getting any better. Today was the last straw: it hung my system while
 PowerMail was loading some messages. The PM database need to be rebuilt,
 shutting me down for 4 hours. I get 2-4 hangs a day from SF, 1 of which
 will take the system down. I'm running OS 9.2.2 on a QuickSilver G4.
 
 What are other PowerMail users using for spam filtering?
 
 (...and wouldn't it be nice if PM could do this?)
 
 George Henne  
 NS BASIC Corporation
 http://www.nsbasic.com
 
 

For seven and half years I've worked alongside President Reagan. We've had
triumphs. Made some mistakes. We've had some sex... uh...setbacks.

- President George Bush
   (stated when Vice President)




Re: export?

2003-05-14 Thread Jonathan Greene

Worked like a champ!

Noticed that export does not carry the attachments over to the new format,
in this case Entourage...

On 5/14/03 9:59 AM, Mirko Kranenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You will have many more options to export to if you select a folder first,
 and then select the export command. No greater versatility than PowerMail
 in this respect!
 
 By doing an export to PowerMail Exchange (the only option) what can I
 import mail into?
 
 --
 One can choose to go back toward safety or forward to
 growth.  Growth must be chosen again and again; fear must
 be overcome again and again.
--  Abraham Maslow
 
 
 




Re: Learned Email Addreses

2003-05-12 Thread Jonathan Greene

I've been wondering that as well.  In Mail.app you can nuke the history
which is very handy.  You can also add names from that same list.

-- 
'It was so sweet backstage,' Steve Martin, the host of the ceremonies,
said a few minutes later. 'You should have seen it. The Teamsters are
helping Michael Moore into the trunk of his limo.' - 2003 Academy Awards

on Mon, 12 May 2003 13:08:54 -0400 / Larry Samberg said: 

It appears that PM learns/remembers email address from mails that I sent/
receive.

Is there any way to REMOVE addresses from this list? It seems cluttered
with old and, in some cases, incorrect or obsolete addresses.





Re: Delete messages on server, keep local

2003-05-07 Thread Jonathan Greene

Check out the receiving settings for that account.  You can easily set
what you want there...

-- 
We must accept finite disappointment, but we must never lose infinite hope.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

on Wed, 7 May 2003 13:19:56 -0500 / Thomas Knox said: 

Hello,

I'm running PowerMail 4 on OS 10.2.6. My server is running POP3, not IMAP.
I am also subscribed to a pay newsletter that sends me a daily PDF file
(MacJournals, http://www.macjournals.com/ very cool service).

I like to keep the newsletters since they're a good reference source.
However, since I don't delete them in PowerMail, they never get deleted on
my server, and my mail file is growing huge.

How can I get PowerMail 4 to delete messages on my server after a
specified time period (e.g. 7 days after downloading) and keep them on my
local system?

Thanks,
Tom
-- 
30 Helens Agree: OS X is OK








attachment

2003-04-30 Thread Jonathan Greene

Would it be tough to add a keyboard shortcut for adding attachments?  My
vote would be Apple+Shift+A.  Not sure when the next rev is coming, but
it is kind of annoying that it is not already in the program.

Thanks,
JG

-- 
Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant??  I'm 
halfway through my fish burger and I realize, oh my God  
I could be eating a slow learner.
---Lynda Montgomery




popfile and PowerMail...

2003-04-27 Thread Jonathan Greene

Just got back to my desk and my set up is as follows for those who are
interested...

user account id: popserver:loginname
incoming mail server: 127.0.0.1
password: same as you were already using

You leave SMTP the same as the normal account setting.

--

Elvis is the most important musical force of the past 
100 years. Look around. You don't see any Beatles 
impersonators, do you? Except for, you know, Oasis.

-- Dennis Miller




re: Unix Account on Powermail?

2003-04-27 Thread Jonathan Greene

You def need that perl module...

Once you have it all installed you use your same accounts but check
through popfile which pulls from your servers.  For mine I believe my
login is user:popserver...  I am on my palm or I would tell you exactly
what it says.  You're close ...

Geoff Roynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
__

I have now downloaded popfile and am trying to install it. It is
complaining about missing file MIME/Base64.pl. I can probably download
this from the internet.
Once it is installed, do I need to add an extra Account to PowerMail?
Should I copy the instructions for Eudora in the popfile instructions?

Thanks
Geoff

On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 10:09:00 -0400 Jonathan Greene said:

It works as an email proxy so your mail passes through it on the way to
PM.  You need to set up at least two buckets (as they are called) -- at
least a spam and no spam option and then you use a local web page hosted
by your system to tweak the ratings.  I use six buckets and I am well
above 90% accuracy.









re: Unix Account on Powermail?

2003-04-27 Thread Jonathan Greene

It works as an email proxy so your mail passes through it on the way to
PM.  You need to set up at least two buckets (as they are called) -- at
least a spam and no spam option and then you use a local web page hosted
by your system to tweak the ratings.  I use six buckets and I am well
above 90% accuracy.

Geoff Roynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
__
Is popfile automatic? I don't want to manually delete spam on the server
if that's what popfile does.

Geoff


On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 08:56:00 -0400 Jonathan Greene said:

If you are not bound to your method you might also try popfile which
works like a champ for me...









re: Unix Account on Powermail?

2003-04-27 Thread Jonathan Greene

If you are not bound to your method you might also try popfile which
works like a champ for me...

Geoff Roynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
__
Hi

I am trying to setup spam filtering using scripts from SpamBouncer and
need to setup a Unix account on PowerMail to read e-mails stored in /var/
mail by fetchmail.

Is this possible? If so, what do I put in User Account ID and Incoming
Mail Server fields in the account setup window.

Thanks for any hints.

Geoff

-- 
Using PowerMail 4.1.2 on a G4/450, 512 MB RAM, under MacOSX 10.2.5
(Classic 9.2.1)








Re: how to disable and account.

2003-04-18 Thread Jonathan Greene

edit a schedule and you can turn it off or on...

-- 
That can't be good for business.
That's can't be good for anybody.
-- Seinfeld

on Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:53:35 -0400 / Dave Johnson said: 

I have several accounts defined in powermail. I would like to be able to
disable one without having to delete the entire account. There is 
nothing
in setup to do this. I thought un-checking the account in the 'connect'
menu would do it, but it does not. By the way what does the connect
check box do. It appears to work the same checked or not checked.

Dave








Re: Powermail will not open

2003-04-12 Thread Jonathan Greene

have you tried starting it up while holding down Option+Apple... You can
run some repair options that way.

-- 
Man becomes the master of difficult situations by refusing
the assistance of weak men.  He relies on his own strength  
of character.   

I Ching (B.C. 1150?)

on Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:02:58 -0400 / Norman Kronenberg said: 

Have been using Powermail for several months on a G4 with OS 10.2.

Powermail will not launch  I get error messages:

an error occurred while opening user's files
database error 100 in 9DB get record
low level error 69


Any help would be appreciated


Norm Kronenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
843-681-9698








Re: (desperately) needing tech help

2003-03-25 Thread Jonathan Greene

I am not the expert you seek, but with the right disc utility you may
have been able to recover some data if you had only erased it since the
computer believes the memory space is free, but data is still written
there.  With initialization I think you set bits to zero which may really
prevent you from a recovery.

If what you nuked was something you really need you might try a service
company like http://www.drivesavers.com/.  I've seen them on TechTV and
they certainly seem to be able to work some magic.  I have no idea what
it would cost...  can't hurt to call.

Good luck!

-- 

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

  - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

on Tue, 25 Mar 2003 02:03:40 +0100 / Max Gossell said: 

Once again, this has nothing to do with Power Mail:

It's extremely embarrassing, but I've managed to erase some 50 Gb of data
and software from a hard disk. I had a 120 Mb disk drive with two
partitions, one small 1 GB for a Classic OS and then the rest for data. I
moved it to an old 6500 Mac, and it refused to run Mac OS 9.2, although
it accepted Max OS 9.1. But I couldn't install v9.1 on the v9.2 volume so
I though I just reinitialize the small 1 GB volume and install v9.1 on a
empty volume.

When reinitializing, I got the usual warning about everything would be
erased, but I thought it concerned the 1 Gb volume only. Then the whole
hard disk was erased!! 

I feel so stupid and I'm in complete despair and wonder if some tech
magician out there would be kind enough to advise me about what to do. I
mean -- the data can be recovered...? Or can't it.?   :-(

Max G








Re(2): macosxhints - An AppleScript to email Safari URLs with titles

2003-03-24 Thread Jonathan Greene

Considering you would have to run a script while in PM to hit Safari it
would seem more efficient the other way... just my thought anyway.  You
could probably modify the scripts to work with the already active message
rather than making a new message if this is what you want.  For me, it
seems to be better to add once the URL is there...

-- 
There is perhaps nothing so bad and so dangerous in life as 
fear.
--Jawaharlal Nehru

on Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:21:38 -0500 / Christopher Plummer said: 

On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:31:35 -0600, Wayne Brissette
[EMAIL PROTECTED], allegedly wrote: 

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030318202727875#comments

So normally I'm all for writing AppleScripts to solve problems. However
this is one case where the recent AppleScript to mail a URL from Safari
seem crude compared to the javascript solution... (FYI, I used it to send
this email).

Thanks again to Wayne and everyone else for all these additions! This one
is great for originating a new mail from Safari!

I'd like to *start* from a message I'm working on in PM,  grab the URL
of the top window of the default web browser, and paste it at the current
insertion point of my message. Does anyone have a script that will do that?

Much thanks,

Chris Plummer

===
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(Not exclusively) For Mac Users in Beautiful Western  Central New Jersey. 
Published Unpredictably approximately every two weeks!
Check the UNPREDICTABLE archive - http://www.unpredictablemac.com
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viewing html...

2003-03-24 Thread Jonathan Greene

This might be obvious, but it was an accidental discovery for me...

If you click the globe icon in an html message instead of holding it down
as I was to choose either view html or view in browser, the message
automatically gets viewed in your browser.

-- 
As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to
dispense it. 
-- Dick Cavett




Re(3): X PM quits on indexing

2003-03-23 Thread Jonathan Greene

I meant from Mail, not Entourage...

-- 
I began to understand that the promises of the world are for the most
part phantoms, and that to have faith in oneself and become something of
worth and value is the best and safest course.

Michelangelo, 1475-1564
Italian Architect, Painter and Sculptor 

on Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:29:02 -0500 / Jonathan Greene said: 

I've not had any issues and imported 1.7GB of mail from Entourage...  My
current database is 68MB - old is 73MB (w/o attachments obviously) but I
have no issues running the index or compact functions.

-- 
It is undesirable to believe a proposition when
 there is no ground whatever for supposing it true.
 -- Bertrand Russell

on Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:47:35 -0600 / Wayne Brissette said: 

Louis Cornelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/23/03 at 11:28 AM stated: 

I have been using Pm for a week or so. No problems in , but in OSX it
will quit will indexing messages if there ae 40 or more. Do I need to
allocate more memory to it?  if so, how to I do that in OSX ( again I am
newly  reluctantly switched to OSX)

thanks!

I have never gotten PM to index large amounts of documents in Mac OS X
properly without causing it to quit. Usually I just open PM again, and
manually index the documents and all is well. It's annoying, but since it
doesn't seem to cause any real problems I've lived with it.





Re(4): HTML text can't be marked, isn't quoted in replies...?

2003-03-23 Thread Jonathan Greene

btw - BBEdit released a free version...

-- 
Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the
lifelong attempt to acquire it.
-- Albert Einstein

on Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:17:00 -0600 / Wayne Brissette said: 

Leonard Morgenstern [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/22/03 at 2:08 PM stated: 




Is it possible to a) open it in some way, or b) have someone send me
either text or a modifiable version?

Thanx
Len

Use the version by w. eric tyson. The version I wrote uses some specific
clean up tasks that BBEdit has built into their editor.

http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/SW/HTML_CleanUP.sit


Wayne

---
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.
- Mark Twain

Live DAT  Music Page: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/
PowerMail AppleScript Archives: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/powermail.html

Music Currently playing: 








Re(2): macosxhints - An AppleScript to email Safari URLs with titles via Mail

2003-03-22 Thread Jonathan Greene

ah - this is very cool...

I added a Keyboard Maestro command to enable my script, but this actually
is cooler since it can create a message that is open as opposed to saved
in your OutTray.

Here's the code:

javascript:location.href='mailto:?SUB
JECT='+document.title+'BODY='+escape(location.href) 

Just make a new bookmark in your bookmark bar and then you can trigger
this with whatever Apple+Number coordinates to it.  In my case Apple+2.

--

An army without culture is a dull-witted army, and a dull-witted army cannot 
defeat the enemy.  Mao Tse-Tung

on Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:18:47 -0800 / Andy Fragen said: 

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030318202727875#comments

Look farther down the page. The solution Wayne is referring to is the
javascript one.




Re: macosxhints - An AppleScript to email Safari URLs with titles via Mail

2003-03-22 Thread Jonathan Greene

not sure I follow you.  I modified the script to work with powermail but
it does exactly the same thing as the previous script.

-- 
As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to
dispense it. 
-- Dick Cavett

on Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:31:35 -0600 / Wayne Brissette said: 

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030318202727875#comments

So normally I'm all for writing AppleScripts to solve problems. However
this is one case where the recent AppleScript to mail a URL from Safari
seem crude compared to the javascript solution... (FYI, I used it to send
this email).





Mail as Attachment?

2003-03-21 Thread Jonathan Greene

From office apps you can select to mail as attachment and use Entourage
or Mail if they are your primary email app but not PowerMail.

Any thoughts on why this is?  It's quite handy to mail out a doc you are
working on from the app itself

--
Enemy fighters at two o'clock!
Roger. What should I do until then?
-- Calvin and Hobbes




one more thought on Attachments...

2003-03-20 Thread Jonathan Greene

One additional benefit to the method in which attachments are handled is
that you can open and modify the files and still maintain associations
with the original email.  In most apps, you are dealing with a temp file
which makes it tough for the average (none of us of course!) to realize
that work they do is not saved unless a save as is performed.

--

For every problem there is one solution which is simple, neat, and wrong.
   
-- H. L. Mencken




Re(2): AppleScript Archives

2003-03-19 Thread Jonathan Greene

I just realized that from your OutTray you can also reveal original with
the same technique.

on Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:10:16 -0800 / L. Cornelio said: 


Many thanks to Wayne Brissette not only for keeping the script archive
but for his many fine additions. I am new to PW, just a few days, after
switching from emailer for something that will run in 9/X Glad to have
discovered this fine client.

I hope there are a few apple scripters out there - the additions sure
make life easy! as I say, the one I used most in emailer was called
REVEAL REPLY - click on the msg.  it shows the reply you wrote - great
for the memory-challenged, or just to keep track of things!

--
Louis Cornelio, teacher
Dana Middle School, Point Loma









Re(3): AppleScript Archives

2003-03-19 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:47:23 -0600 / Marlyse Comte said: 


 REVEAL REPLY - run it on a read message to find the answer in your
 sent mail folder

this is part of PM - if an email has a green arrow (= replied to) you
just control-click onto that green arrow and select 'reveal reply'.

or am I not understanding your feature request correctly?

I think this is to batch them all together...  in which case we would
need to capture the thread counts (in subject) as well.

-- 

We don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.

-- HP executive, responding to Apple Computer founders Steve Jobs' 
and Steve Wozniak's attempts to interest the company in the personal 
computer they had designed, 1976.




Re(2): AppleScript Archives

2003-03-19 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:29:30 -0800 / L. Cornelio said: 


calling all scripters!

here were my two favorites from emailer -

REVEAL REPLY - run it on a read message to find the answer in your sent
mail folder

FOLLOW UP - takes sent message and makes new one quoting it to same recipient

Does anything like this exist? Or is it a few minutes taks for a talented
scripter?

These sound great...

One cool feature in Mail.app that could solve your second one (if
implemented) is that you could highlight multiple messages and either
forward or reply in a single message with both contained in the new message.

-- 
Enemy fighters at two o'clock!
Roger. What should I do until then?
-- Calvin and Hobbes




Re(2): Send URL from Safari?

2003-03-19 Thread Jonathan Greene

works like a charm!

-- 
I stopped for breakfast at the International House of Pan-
cakes. As soon as you walk into the restaurant you catch 
the distinct, worldwide feel of the place. I was completely 
baffled by the complex menu. So I just had the flapjack du 
jour and the syrup steward helped me select a dry maple that 
was busy but not precocious. -Dennis Miller

on Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:11:29 -0600 / Wayne Brissette said: 

http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/powermail.html




Re: Attachments Restricted to One Folder

2003-03-19 Thread Jonathan Greene

I hear you on this one.  The attachments folder is a nice concept, but
since I just switched over I have well over 3000 items and renders using
it via the finder very difficult.  I have already run through and killed
many similar and obvious dupes thanks to rounds of revisions on work for
clients over the past few years.  Multiple folders, filtered by rule
would be great though I would still have a great deal of manual labor
ahead to file all this stuff.

-- 
Information isn't wisdom. Information isn't learning. If information
were learning, you could be educated by memorizing the world almanac.
If you did that, you wouldn't be educated. You'd be weird.

 - David McCullough, author/historian, in INC. magazine, May 2000

on Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:20:44 -0500 / Bob Seaner said: 

I'd like to elicit the list's thoughts regarding the PowerMail (under OS
X) requirement that attachments stay in one folder in order for the email
that contained the attachment to maintain reference.  The Finder under OS
9 encountered extreme difficulty managing directories that contained
large amounts of files.  On some systems a few hundred files would be
enough for the Finder to not show all the contents of a folder or
otherwise bog down and be unresponsive while in that directory.  Also, an
alert in an open/save dialog box would appear indicating that the entire
contents of the directory would not be displayed when pointed to same. 
It very well may be true that OS X does not have any of these problems
when dealing with very large directories.  My very informal testing
suggests that you have more problems trying to create a directory with a
large number of files than you do with working with them once they are
created.  (My method was to duplicate my attachments folder and then
duplicate its contents a few times until I had over a thousand files. 
This caused the Finder to go unresponsive twice, requiring it to be
relaunched twice.)

Under OS 9 it was possible for a program to keep track of files
independent of the filename.  For instance, Claris Emailer could keep
track of which attachments belonged to which email even if you moved or
renamed the attachments.  I don't know if this method is available under
OS X, or if it is, if Apple is discouraging its use.  I'm also not sure
that this method is any better than PowerMail's current method.  It
certainly had its drawbacks, as anyone who moved a Emailer account from
one computer to another knows.

I'm not advocating any changes, but I do wish to bring this to the
attention of the user base in case they are concerned over this
requirement.  If I move my users over to PowerMail, it will take no time
at all for them to have attachments numbering in the thousands.  And
since filed messages are an ever increasing quantity, (for all practical
purposes, I don't live in an ideal world) the number of attachments
landing in that one directory is open-ended.  This makes browsing for an
attachment considerably more problematic.  (I am considering making a
separate volume just for attachments.  With this setup, any dragging of
attachments from an email to another directory will be by very nature a
copy and not a move.  This has some ramifications that need to be
explained to users.)

One possible solution would be for PowerMail to keep the attachments with
the email the way it arrived.  Other mail programs do this, in fact, most
email programs do this.  I suspect this is a non-starter with the
PowerMail developers.  Since the current method is counter to the norm,
they probably have strong convictions about doing it any other way.  One
ramification of keeping the attachments as part of the message is that
the single mail database file would grow alarming large in very short
order.  One way to fix that is to use separate databases for each filed
mail folder, which is also the norm.  Consequently, having separate
databases for each filed mail folder allows for more practical
incremental file backups.

I know the PowerMail team has put much thought into these issues.  While
we may or may not agree with their choices, (and are free to use another
program if we don't like them) it would be nice to have an understanding
why they chose to do things the way they have in light of the fact that
the PowerMail way, at least on the surface appears not to, theoretically
speaking, scale well with larger and larger amounts of filed mail.


Respectfully,

Bob Seaner










Re: PGP Trial version?

2003-03-19 Thread Jonathan Greene

Better than that, it's free for non-commercial use.

-- 
To do is to be. --  Descartes
To be is to do. --  Voltaire
Do be do be do. --  Frank Sinatra 

on Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:12:10 -0500 / John Hay said: 


Anybody know if there's a trial version of PGP ? 


John Hay
Quality is a result of intelligent effort.




On Monday, March 17, 2003 at 12:16 PM, Jonathan Greene wrote:

on Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:01:41 +0100 / Thomas Thaler said: 

Message originally sent on: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:13:27 PM - this time
w/o attachment!


I can't be the only one who wants to use PGP...

I will attach the scripts that come with PGP for someone in the hopes
that someone here might also 1) have an interest and 2) be able to
provide assistance with the modifications.

My friend is able to use PGP with AppleScript in Entourage on the fly.  I
have to work it via the clipboard which is ok, but within the app is
obviously much slicker not too mention secure.

Thanks,
JG


__

The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it

- John Gilmore

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello John

to help you we need some more information from your side.
What System OS do you use Powermail with?
Which Version of PGP do you use?

As an first answer, I can tell you that PGP 8.0 and PowerMail 4.1.2
do work together without any problems under Mac OS X 10.2.4.

1.) Write your text.
2.) Type cmd-a after you finished with writing.
3.) After this command go straight to the PowerMail Menu PowerMail.
4.) No choose Service then PGP and then what ever you want.
Sign, Encrypt, Signg  Encrypt
5.) You will see the result straight after depressing the mouse
button.

YOU RULE!!  SO obvious and yet so difficult in the midst of banging
my head last night.  That service menu is one handy thing.

Thanks,
JG

-- 


Whatever it is the government does, sensible Americans would prefer
that the government do it to somebody else.

- P.J. O'Rourke





Re(2): Send URL from Safari?

2003-03-18 Thread Jonathan Greene

Cool - looking forward to the update...

-- 
As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to
dispense it. 
-- Dick Cavett

on Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:36:06 -0600 / Wayne Brissette said: 

Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 stated:


My wandering through AppleScript continues...  Trying to send the active
URL in Safari as a new message...

Somebody sent me an AppleScript to post that does a lot of what you want,
but it's on my home computer and I haven't had the time to update the
page yet... :-(

Wayne




Send URL from Safari?

2003-03-18 Thread Jonathan Greene

My wandering through AppleScript continues...  Trying to send the active
URL in Safari as a new message...

tell application Safari to set theSubject to name of document 1
tell application Safari to set theContent to URL of document 1
tell application PowerMail to make new message with properties
{subject:theSubject, content:theContent}
display dialog  message ready

I am successfully creating a new message though closed in my OutTray. 
The subject and content are literally being created as theSubject and
theContent as opposed to Web Page Name / URL

Anyone know how to fix this?  I would prefer that the message window be
open, not closed and that (obviously) that the correct info be placed in
subject and content fields.

Thanks,
JG

-- 
It is undesirable to believe a proposition when
 there is no ground whatever for supposing it true.
 -- Bertrand Russell




Re(2): more PGP...

2003-03-17 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:01:41 +0100 / Thomas Thaler said: 

Message originally sent on: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:13:27 PM - this time
w/o attachment!


I can't be the only one who wants to use PGP...

I will attach the scripts that come with PGP for someone in the hopes
that someone here might also 1) have an interest and 2) be able to
provide assistance with the modifications.

My friend is able to use PGP with AppleScript in Entourage on the fly.  I
have to work it via the clipboard which is ok, but within the app is
obviously much slicker not too mention secure.

Thanks,
JG


__

The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it

- John Gilmore

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello John

to help you we need some more information from your side.
What System OS do you use Powermail with?
Which Version of PGP do you use?

As an first answer, I can tell you that PGP 8.0 and PowerMail 4.1.2
do work together without any problems under Mac OS X 10.2.4.

1.) Write your text.
2.) Type cmd-a after you finished with writing.
3.) After this command go straight to the PowerMail Menu PowerMail.
4.) No choose Service then PGP and then what ever you want.
Sign, Encrypt, Signg  Encrypt
5.) You will see the result straight after depressing the mouse
button.

YOU RULE!!  SO obvious and yet so difficult in the midst of banging
my head last night.  That service menu is one handy thing.

Thanks,
JG

-- 

Whatever it is the government does, sensible Americans would prefer
that the government do it to somebody else.

- P.J. O'Rourke




Re(2): Bugs in powermail...

2003-03-17 Thread Jonathan Greene

Thanks for the tip... will let everyone know if that fixes it.

-- 
If intelligence were taken out of my life, it would only be
more or less reduced.  If I had no one to love, it would be ruined.
-- Henri de Montherlant, Explicit Mysterium, 1931

on Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:08:16 + / Stuart McKnight said: 

You might want to check the options for receiving mail where 
there are more than one POP account - the options are sequential or all at
once - I found that if I had it set to all at once I had similar symptoms;
automated 
or scheduled connections stalled part way but manual connections worked
fine.
Suggest you try changing to sequential or one-at-a-time and see if that
solves it...

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of martin schiller
  Sent: 17 March 2003 14:44
  To: PowerMail discussions
  Subject: Re: Bugs in powermail...
  
  
  I've been painting the area I use for my OS X box with
  PowerMail so I've 
  been using my iMac 9.2 with Claris Emailer. In the time that 
  I've been 
  using eMailer I haven't noticed any of the stalled 
  connections that I was 
  having with PowerMail. I reconnected the OS X machine and 
  used Powermail, 
  and the first connection that I had scheduled stalled - the 
  status window 
  remains open displaying 'downloading xx messages...' and 
  remains there 
  until it is dismissed by a mouse click on the 'stop' 
 button. I tried 
  running eMailer and PowerMail alternately from the OS X box, 
  eMailer from 
  classic mode, and I experienced the problem twice more 
 with Powermail 
  over a 24 hour timeframe. I've not had the problem at all 
  with eMailer. 
  I'm beginning to suspect that the culprit in my connection 
  problems is 
  not my ISP, but PowerMail.
  
  
  
 
 
 
 Your message could not be processed because you are not 
 allowed to post 
 messages to the PowerMail discussions list. 
 
 For more information, you can contact the list administrator at:
 
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Re(2): Bugs in powermail...

2003-03-17 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:43:52 -0800 / martin schiller said: 

I've been painting the area I use for my OS X box with PowerMail so I've 
been using my iMac 9.2 with Claris Emailer. In the time that I've been 
using eMailer I haven't noticed any of the stalled connections that I was 
having with PowerMail. I reconnected the OS X machine and used Powermail, 
and the first connection that I had scheduled stalled - the status window 
remains open displaying 'downloading xx messages...' and remains there 
until it is dismissed by a mouse click on the 'stop' button. I tried 
running eMailer and PowerMail alternately from the OS X box, eMailer from 
classic mode, and I experienced the problem twice more with Powermail 
over a 24 hour timeframe. I've not had the problem at all with eMailer. 
I'm beginning to suspect that the culprit in my connection problems is 
not my ISP, but PowerMail.

I get that occasionally as well though I cannot attribute it to any
specific account of the 4 I check.  It either eventually goes through or
I have to hit stop and try again.

-- 
For seven and half years I've worked alongside President Reagan. We've
had triumphs. Made some mistakes. We've had some sex... uh...setbacks.

- President George Bush
   (stated when Vice President)




some help please - AppleScript

2003-03-17 Thread Jonathan Greene

I've been banging my head against the desk for quite a while trying to
get this to work...  I can't get PM to print back the resulting encoded
text.  It seems to be working other in that text is grabbed and encoded,
just not swapped out at the end.  Any help would be fantastic.

-- Get the content
tell application PowerMail
activate
set windowContent to content of front window
end tell

-- Encrypt and sign the content

tell application PGP
activate
set windowContent to encrypt and sign text windowContent
end tell

tell application PowerMail
activate
set content of front window to windowContent
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to the ASCII character 10
try
set the lineList to every text item of windowContent
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to the return
set windowContent to the lineList as string
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to 
display dialog windowContent
set content of front window to windowContent
on error
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to 
end try
end tell

-- Have a nice day

--

I saw a subliminal advertising executive, but only for a second.

- Steven Wright




Re(2): more PGP...

2003-03-16 Thread Jonathan Greene

Pretty Good Privacy.  allows for public key encryption.  We exchange
public keys and we can send totally secure messages or documents. 
http://www.pgp.com/products/personal.html

-- 
We must accept finite disappointment, but we must never lose infinite hope.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

on Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:05:35 -0800 / Rucastle said: 

At 12:30 PM Sun, Mar 16, 2003 Jonathan Greene said:


I can't be the only one who wants to use PGP...

Please excuse my ignorance, what is PGP?




Scripts within Folders?

2003-03-16 Thread Jonathan Greene

How can we get Scripts to stay in folders from the PowerMail scripts
menu?  I would really like to group things together for ease of use.  The
two folders of scripts tend to make the list in the script menu a tad
unruly...  I guess we could use the system Menu as opposed to the PM one.

-- 

A little Dr. Evil to get you through...

Ya.  Mmmm.  Mmm.

The moment I heard Frau Say I had a clone,
I knew that I'd be safe, cause I'd never be alone,
An evil doctor shouldn't speak a lot about his feelings,
My hurt and my pain don't make me too appealing.

I'd hoped Scott, Would look up to me,
Run the business of the Fam-il-y,
Had an evil empire just like his dear old dad,
Give him my love and the things I never had.

Scott would think I was a good guy,
The tender love I have, make me want to cry:
Be Evil But I have my feelings, too,
Change my life with Oprah and Maya Anjelou.

But Scott rejected me.  C'est la vie.
Life is cruel, treats you unfairly.
Even so, a God there must be,
Mini Me, you complete me.

Just the two.  Getting Jiggy with it.  Quite pleasant, really.  Just the
two of us.  You and I.




Receipt function - now priorities

2003-03-16 Thread Jonathan Greene

I saw a mention about priorities earlier and was wondering how if at all
that might work.  Can we set urgent (the only one worthwhile anyway) at all?

-- 

There is growing evidence that smoking has pharmacological . . . 
effects that are of real value to smokers.

-- Joseph F. Cullman III, President of Philip Morris, Inc., 1962

on Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:56:33 +0100 / Christian Roth said: 

It is my understanding that requesting a receipt is based on a certain
mail header. So what I have done is added a custom header to the accounts
I want to receive receipt notifications:

Setup  Accounts  Identity  Additional Headers:
Return-Receipt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is what at least Microsoft Exchange responds to.

When you are at the receiving side, you probably can look for this (or a
different) header in incoming mail in a filter and create a new receipt-
message using some AppleScript automatically (though I haven't done this
personally).

The above request header is, as far as I know, deprecated, but seems to
work for some email systems. There's also a differently named header
(which I do not remember anymore) that was more difficult to set up, so I
used the above.

This email should have this header intact, maybe you can see it when you
switch on Show headers and if it was not stripped by the list server.

Regards, Christian. 









PGP?

2003-03-16 Thread Jonathan Greene

What is the best way to integrate PGP with PowerMail?  There are some
scripts which I suppose could be modified for Entourage...  just
wondering what others have done.

Thanks,
JG

-- 

I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make
me happy.
 

   - J.D. Salinger




script not working....

2003-03-15 Thread Jonathan Greene

Trying to get the modified vcard script submitted here last week to work
on clearing out html attachments which are generally the same as text
already in the email.  I see them coming as enclosure, attachment...

Here's the script.  I tried to use wildcards... Is that possible?

tell application PowerMail
set theMessages to current messages
repeat with msg in theMessages
repeat with attach in every attachment of msg
if name of attach contains (attach*.html or 
attach*.htm or
Enclosure*.*) then
tell application Finder
set f to file of attach
move f to trash
end tell
end if
end repeat
end repeat
end tell

-- 
I hate it when my foot falls asleep during the day-because then I know it
will be up all night.
-- Steven Wright 




Re: Bugs in powermail...

2003-03-15 Thread Jonathan Greene

This list is only as difficult as you make it.  It is in the folder order
you created.

-- 
Enemy fighters at two o'clock!
Roger. What should I do until then?
-- Calvin and Hobbes

on Sat, 15 Mar 2003 02:48:38 -0800 / Greg Saylor said: 

In the Filters screens, when selecting a folder to move messages into
it is very difficult because there is no heirachal view available... All
the mailboxes are presented in a listbox (or whatever it is).. This makes
navigation VERY difficult for installations which have a lot of
folders... A better interface for this would be greatly appreciated...




Re: Stand alone notepad for Palm/Mac?

2003-03-14 Thread Jonathan Greene

I use OmniOutliner for note taking, though it is does not sync... 

-- 
My parents didn't want to move to Florida, but they 
turned sixty, and that's the law.
--- Jerry Seinfeld

on Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:40:58 +0100 / Max Gossell said: 

Now with PowerMail's interaction with Address Book (if yet a bit
questionable...) and iSync's ability to sync Address Book and iCal with a
Palm, I see for the first time a real chance to completely get rid of any
dependence of Microsoft, which is a blessing.

But I lack a software to take notes/memos, and to sync them between Mac
and Palm -- I don't like to be forced to use Palm Desktop only for its
memos. Does anybody know of a stand alone software for this, complete
with OSX conduit?

/Max G








Re(2): Complex Filter in PowerMail

2003-03-13 Thread Jonathan Greene

had no idea you could do that... very cool way to link them

-- 
As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to
dispense it. 
-- Dick Cavett

on Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:10:45 -0600 / Marlyse Comte said: 

have the first on top of the second filter and in the lower filter enable
'stop applying filters'. 

filters work in the list from the top down.

---marlyse

It would seem I need two separate filters, which I know how to create,
but then I don't see a way to refer the first filter to the second.








Re(2): remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Jonathan Greene

very cool - will give this a whirl...

Thanks,
JG

-- 
Information isn't wisdom. Information isn't learning. If information
were learning, you could be educated by memorizing the world almanac.
If you did that, you wouldn't be educated. You'd be weird.

 - David McCullough, author/historian, in INC. magazine, May 2000

on Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:51:33 -0800 / Andy Fragen said: 

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

There is a script, Delete vCard Attachments that comes with PowerMail.
You could easily duplicate that script, change it, and run it from a
filter to act always on incoming messages.

***
tell application PowerMail
   set theMessages to current messages
   repeat with msg in theMessages
   repeat with attach in every attachment of msg
   if name of attach ends with (.html or .htm) then
   tell application Finder
   set f to file of attach
   move f to trash
   end tell
   end if
   end repeat
   end repeat
end tell
**

The above should work.
-- 
Andy Fragen








Re(2): remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Jonathan Greene

Guess it is a tad broad...

--

For every problem there is one solution which is simple, neat, and wrong.
   
-- H. L. Mencken

on Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:53:36 -0500 / Steve said: 

Sorry about that reply, I have a specific PM filter that auto-replies to
the word remove in the subject line...

 Begin Forwarded Message 


You have been removed from the www.keylime.com mailing list. We thank you
for your interest, however brief it might have been. Just to assure you,
your email address has NOT been forwarded to any other people out there
and was used exclusively for our purposes.

Thanks again, stay well...

Steve
I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
JG



-- 
One thing at a time, all things in succession.  That which 
grows slowly endures.
--J. G. Hubbard 





- End Forwarded Message -









remove specific attachments from messages automatically?

2003-03-13 Thread Jonathan Greene

I have an account that does not support html messages due to my company's
gateway.  I'd like to automatically remove the attach*.html bits that
come in so I don't have to do it manually and don't clutter up my
attachments folder.  When I went to create a rule for this, the only
option seemed to be to remove all attachments, which is not what I want
to do, since I often receive Office docs there.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
JG

-- 
One thing at a time, all things in succession.  That which 
grows slowly endures.
--J. G. Hubbard 




Address book sync?

2003-03-12 Thread Jonathan Greene

How exactly does this work?  It seems to work at about 80%...  

I have contacts who have been added in PM, and who make it back to AB,
but not all.  Same the other way.  Not all my original names have made it
to PM.  Also, while groups have synced over, not all the names in the
groups are there.

Thoughts?

-- 
Two trout are dining in a restaurant when one of them 
starts waving his empty glass in the air. The head waiter 
turns to another waiter and says, I think there's a fish 
out of water. 




Re(2): feature suggestions...

2003-03-12 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:56 -0800 / Barbara Needham said: 

I've sorted every column in both orders [triangle up and triangle down]
and space bar single key read works to go to the next unread message
every time. Of course it goes from the top of the list to the bottom of
the list.

Using delete of course is  not the same as single key space bar read. You
do have preferences checked for go to next message after moving to trash?
Under General, Shortcuts? Then it doesn't even matter if the mail is read
or unread, just that it's in the window. [ie if your view isn't view all,
it's not going to go to some message that is not showing in the list window.]

I forgot to mention this is in the RMW, not the individual folders... 
Prefs are on.  Space does, delete does not.




feature suggestions...

2003-03-12 Thread Jonathan Greene

The more I use PowerMail, the more I like it but...

I would like to see an UNDO function for deletion or moving messages . 
This was a very handy function to have in Mail.app and something I really
miss.  Imagine hitting Apple+Delete and realizing you want to go back
quickly to check something... the message pops right back.

Move to next unread message needs to work regardless of which way the
column is sorted.  I prefer new messages at top, but want to quickly read
and delete as they come in, which means for now, I have to sort mail the
other way.

Thanks,
JG

-- 
That can't be good for business.
That's can't be good for anybody.
-- Seinfeld




Re(3): Feature Request: Ability to filter out HTML mail

2003-03-12 Thread Jonathan Greene

you bet!  It was worth the tech effort... took me a bit of struggle, but
totally works great!

--

UNIVERSAL MIND

You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone. -Al Capone

on Wed, 12 Mar 2003 01:08:21 +0100 / Max Gossell said: 

At 11 mars 2003, 18.41 CET, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

For what it is worth you might want to check out POPFile for Spam
filtering as well as filtering in general.  It is essentially a mail
proxy that categorizes mail on receipt.  You then filter based on these
classifications or buckets in the parlance of POPFile.  There is a very
strong Bayesian filter which captures most of spam and really really has
made a difference.  It is free and can be run on system start-up or from
the terminal directly.  I highly recommend it.

Entourage is not capable of handling the header modification, btw... only
subject line changes which are not quite as stealthy...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/popfile/ main project page
http://www.artz-net.de/popfile/ directions from setting up on OS X

JG

Thanks for the tip.

But the sourceforge.net was down for maintenance and the second URL took
me to a page with tech stuff way over my head. 

I would really like to (quote) enjoy your soon to be spam free mailbox.
As a musician, my email address has ben publicly exposed on our web site
since 1996, and boy -- do I get junk mail!! But as all agents, fans and
interested concert producers use it, I can't afford to neither take it
away from the web nor cancel it.

I guess I'll just have to stick to SpamFire and what I can do with the PM
filtering...  

Max G

-- 
Max Gossell
Progetto Avanti - The Swedish Guitar Project
Warner Classics International Recording Artists
http://www.progettoavanti.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--









Re: Feature Request: Ability to filter out HTML mail

2003-03-12 Thread Jonathan Greene

For what it is worth you might want to check out POPFile for Spam
filtering as well as filtering in general.  It is essentially a mail
proxy that categorizes mail on receipt.  You then filter based on these
classifications or buckets in the parlance of POPFile.  There is a very
strong Bayesian filter which captures most of spam and really really has
made a difference.  It is free and can be run on system start-up or from
the terminal directly.  I highly recommend it.

Entourage is not capable of handling the header modification, btw... only
subject line changes which are not quite as stealthy...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/popfile/ main project page
http://www.artz-net.de/popfile/ directions from setting up on OS X

JG

-- 

I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make
me happy.
 

   - J.D. Salinger

on Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:25:26 +0100 / Max Gossell said: 

Hi,

When creating mail filters in Entourage, there is a nice option: Is HTML. 

This would be very handy in PowerMail as well when setting up junk mail
filters.  




Re(2): recent mail

2003-03-11 Thread Jonathan Greene

Thanks Barbara.  That's how I set it at first for spam, but thought I
should check before I delete, since sometimes I am a bit too quick on the
draw with deletions... This does seem like the best way though to
maintain a clean view in RMW, since there is no way to easily mark as
read and remove from view.  I am sure this can be done in AppleScript,
but I don't have the power.  For now, this solution works just fine.

Thanks,
JG

-- 
Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.
--J.R.R. Tolkien 

on Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:26:38 -0800 /Barbara Needham said: 

Jonathan Greene on 3/10/03 said

Any way to select messages NOT to display in recent mail?  I have a JUNK
folder where spam goes and would love to hide that from recent mail
views

Posted on Monday by Rick Lecoat:

One way of getting around even the slight chore of clicking the 'delete
read messages' button in the Recent Mail Window (RMW) is to move the
messages to the trash before moving them to their final destination, as
any message moved to trash is also removed from the RMW. I use this to
prevent list stuff (like this list) from cluttering up the RMW; the
filter that processes incoming list postings contains the action Move
message to Mail Trash followed immediately by Move message to folder PM
List.

With Spam sieve this would be slightly more complicated because all the
message processing is done by the Spam Sieve script rather than by
separate filter actions, but it shouldn't be too hard to add a line to
the SS Move Spam script that moves the message through the trash en-route
to its final resting place.

Rick

PS. Acknowledgements to Marcus Jarrett who first tipped me off about the
move-to-trash trick for preventing RMW clutter

-- 
Barbara Needham








Re(2): How to Hack PM Sounds in OSX, wi/o OS9

2003-03-11 Thread Jonathan Greene

Thanks for the legwork and research...Maybe PowerMail should just
natively support OS X sound formats.

--

UNIVERSAL MIND

You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone. -Al Capone

on Tue, 11 Mar 2003 02:16:02 +0100 /Mikke Byström said:

Karel Gillissen sa:

I don't think there is a way at the moment. This is an issue that CTM dev
will need to fix. They need to come up with another method of doing this
since new Macintosh computers can't startup in Mac OS 9. Right now, the
best solution might be to have somebody else who can startup in Mac OS 9
add additional sounds for you. :-(

Wayne

John, Wayne,

Yes you can, allbeit an expenisve solution:
with Resorcerer 2.4 OSX (www.mathemaesthetics.com
Open Powermail - Contents - Resources - PowerMail.rsrc
and you will find the snd resources to edit/delete or add new ones.

Well, a trip to versiontracker reveals these possibly alternatives (not
tested though), while in alpha/beta, they may be worth checking out, if
Sound exchange is the only use. (It may turn out to be not possible to
edit sound resources though):

Resploder: explodes a Macintosh file into a folder (and back). I'd
definitely use this on a copy. As you always should of course.
http://ljug.com/sw/resploder.html
Most promising of these three despite it's hardcore tactics.

Snoop:
Snoop presents the file or memory's data to you in an easy to undersant
hex and ascii view, allowing you to do your editing in either view.
http://www.resexcellence.com/files/file_Snoop16.sit
Versiontracker posts do no bode well for getting an evaluation key,
however, so maybe a dead end. The maker Evatac  www.evatac.com have a
wrongly setup web objects server. Hm.

I also found Mac Resource Dog, but it doesn't seem to do sound
unfortunately.
 http://www.illenberger-berlin.de/fearonni/macresourcedog.html
Otherwise it seems quite useful. Maybe the author is responsive to
requests?







Re(2): Recent Mail?

2003-03-10 Thread Jonathan Greene



Boy do we need a new updated manual.  There are so many secret and hidden
features ...

-- 

The gym teacher's name was Mr. Caruso. Mr. Caruso did
not speak English. He spoke 'Gym.' One day I was playing
basketball and Mr. Caruso told me I would have to get
an athletic supporter. He didn't express himself exactly
that way, though. He said, 'Hey, you, one day you're gonna
go up for a rebound and the family jewels aren't gonna
go with ya.' I had no idea what he was talking about.
Next day I showed up for practice without my watch and
my mezuzah. He said, 'Did ya take care of the family jewels?'
I said, 'I left 'em in my locker.' Took us a half hour to
revive Mr. Caruso.

- Tommy Lasorda

on Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:44:13 -1000 /H.R. Riggs said: 

I'm not quite sure if this is the answer you are looking for, but the two
buttons in the lower right of the Recent Mail window will remove all
messages or read messages from the Recent Mail listing. I just learned
this recently from someone else on this list. I find it very useful,
because I was having to quit and restart.




Recent Mail?

2003-03-10 Thread Jonathan Greene

How is this defined?  Do they expire over the day?  I can only seem to
refresh on restart of PM?

Thanks,
JG

--

UNIVERSAL MIND

You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone. -Al Capone




Re(2): Deleting messages attachments

2003-03-10 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:00:56 +0100 /Max Gossell said: 

When trashing a message the attachment is left in the attachment folder.
How do I do to:

Delete both message and attachment?

Yes please!!  I can't believe that is how it works...

-- 
The only leader I did not manage to have a proper conversation with
was Clinton. I was speaking and he was looking at one of the walls,
admiring the frescos and the paintings. He was not listening to me.

--Pope John Paul II
Reuters news-wire, 1/4/01




Re(2): new sounds?

2003-03-10 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Mon, 10 Mar 2003 06:09:17 -0600 /Wayne Brissette said: 

There must be a way to hack this.  Anybody know where PM store's it's
(very limited choice of) sound files?

in a file that is only accessible from Mac OS 9. Startup in Mac OS 9 and
modify the sounds suitcase.

I do not run Classic or 9 at all - 100% OS X.  Any other option?

-- 
I hate it when my foot falls asleep during the day-because then I know it
will be up all night.
-- Steven Wright 




Re(3): PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-10 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:41:22 -0800 /Barbara Needham said: 

Jonathan Greene on 3/9/03 said

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:30:38 -0800 /Barbara Needham said: 

Jonathan Greene on 3/9/03 said

One more...  

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

Space bar does this in three pane view. Per folder, It doesn't jump to
the next folder.
And my messages are sorted by date.


Only seems to work if your messages are sorted most recent at the
bottom... just tried again.

Why not the other way?

Works both ways for me -- only for unread messages. Not ones that are
already read. Single key read with space bar was actually one of my
requirements for an e-mail client.

I guess that must be it then... only unread.  Thanks!

-- 
I hate it when my foot falls asleep during the day-because then I know it
will be up all night.
-- Steven Wright 




new sounds?

2003-03-10 Thread Jonathan Greene

How do you add new sounds for notifications?  I did a search and found it
needs to be in a Sound Suitcase, but have no idea how to do that...

I'd like to at least be able to use the system sounds, but ideally use
other ones too.

Thanks,
JG

-- 
My fellow Americans. I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia
forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.

- President Ronald Reagan

(famous mic check just before he was going to make a radio broadcast.) 




Re(2): PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-10 Thread Jonathan Greene

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:30:38 -0800 /Barbara Needham said: 

Jonathan Greene on 3/9/03 said

One more...  

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

Space bar does this in three pane view. Per folder, It doesn't jump to
the next folder.
And my messages are sorted by date.

Only seems to work if your messages are sorted most recent at the
bottom... just tried again.

Why not the other way?

-- 

There is growing evidence that smoking has pharmacological . . . 
effects that are of real value to smokers.

-- Joseph F. Cullman III, President of Philip Morris, Inc., 1962




Send with PowerMail PDF Service!

2003-03-09 Thread Jonathan Greene

Through some solid trial and (many) error(s) I was able to figure out the
send with PowerMail PDF Service!

on open these_items
tell application PowerMail
set msg to make new message with properties 
{attachment:these_items}
open msg
activate
end tell
end open

Sends ANY document you print as Print Job.pdf from within PowerMail.  You
need to save it to you machine, user or network /library/PDF Services/
folder as a compiled script.

More here: http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/CoreTechnologies/
graphics/Printing/PDF_Workflow/pdfwf_concepts/index.html

Enjoy!
JG

-- 
To do is to be. --  Descartes
To be is to do. --  Voltaire
Do be do be do. --  Frank Sinatra 




Re(2): powermail-discuss Digest #1431 - 03/08/03

2003-03-09 Thread Jonathan Greene

This bug is happening to me as well.  No command A or select all menu
option. damn.

-- 
As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to
dispense it. 
-- Dick Cavett

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:19:26 -0800 /Ira Lansing said: 

Here's a benign but bizarre bug I just discovered which I can reliably
reproduce:

1. compose a new message.
2. select all text (presuming there is a signature pre-inserted in the
body).
3. press backspace.
4. type some text.
5. choose 'select all' from the 'edit' menu.

...but you can't, because 'select all' is greyed out and unavailable,
when it shouldn't be.

-ben

Interestingly, even with Select All unavailable, command-A worked for me.




Re(2): PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-09 Thread Jonathan Greene

sorted by date here and it does not work...

OS X 10.2.4 PM 4.1.2

-- 
One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the
work of one extraordinary man.
--Elbert Hubbard

on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:06:22 -0800 /Andy Fragen said: 

On Sun, Mar 9, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

Space Bar ... I like the usual scan through a message, but why not go to
the next message as well if you reach the end?

It does this for me. Sorted 3 pane view by subject.




PowerMail bits and bytes

2003-03-09 Thread Jonathan Greene

So a few days into PowerMail and I am noticing things that work, but
perhaps not quite as expecting having used Entourage and Mail...

Highlights... can this be an entire line instead of just a subject? 
Seems to be an awkward implementation.

Threads... I love the idea of highlighting by thread in Mail and it is
something I always found great when scrolling through a long list of
messages...

Arrow Keys...Why can we not utilize the arrow keys in the recipients
space to easily move to another contact.  Having to use the mouse is ok,
but the keyboard is much faster - especially when combined with Shift+Tab

Drafts... Anyway to set where these get saved?  Why in the Out Tray?  Why
not in a Drafts Tray?  I have found no preference for this and find it
can be easy to forget about a message or two...

Message actions...Keyboard shortcuts... Why is there no way to mark read
or unread from the keyboard?  Has there been though about a contextual
menu or actual menu to transfer messages into folders?  That seems like
an obvious one - especially when viewing through the Recent Mail view.

I'm hooked - really like PM!  Just a few nits...

Thanks,
JG

-- 

We don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.

-- HP executive, responding to Apple Computer founders Steve Jobs' 
and Steve Wozniak's attempts to interest the company in the personal 
computer they had designed, 1976.




Re(3): Newbie reflections: Requesting scripts and features

2003-03-09 Thread Jonathan Greene

I am looking for a script that will auto-attach a printed PDF like the
applescript apple provided for Mail:

on open these_items
tell application Mail
set the new_message to (make new outgoing message with 
properties
{visible:true})
tell the new_message
tell content
repeat with i from 1 to the count of these_items
set this_file to item i of these_items
make new attachment with properties 
{file name:this_file} at before
the first character
end repeat
end tell
end tell
end tell
end open

I don't know anything about applescript except how to use it once written ;)

-- 

We don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.

-- HP executive, responding to Apple Computer founders Steve Jobs' 
and Steve Wozniak's attempts to interest the company in the personal 
computer they had designed, 1976.

on Sat, 8 Mar 2003 13:12:52 -0600 /Neil Lee said: 

Are their work-flow scripts to take advantage of Apple's PDF Services for
PM?  I did not see anything at the site...

What are you looking for, exactly? Apple's PDF services work specifically
with Apple's print services, so whatever you can print, you can pipe
through the PDF services.




Re(2): Newbie reflections: Requesting scripts and features

2003-03-08 Thread Jonathan Greene

Are their work-flow scripts to take advantage of Apple's PDF Services for
PM?  I did not see anything at the site...

Thanks,
JG

-- 

Flaming enthusiasm, backed up by horse sense and persistence are the
qualities that most frequently make for success.

- Jack Welch




Re: How long to process payment?

2003-03-08 Thread Jonathan Greene

Just arrived...

The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it

on Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:45:46 -0500 /Jonathan Greene said: 

Anyone have any idea how long it takes to get payment processed and receive
a code?  I bought PM last night...I am way past the 200 message limit and
would love to be using it full-time.

Thanks,
JG




How long to process payment?

2003-03-08 Thread Jonathan Greene
Title: How long to process payment=3F

--==_20060728155105.31189-1_==
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Anyone have any idea how long it takes to get payment processed and receive
a code?  I bought PM last night...I am way past the 200 message limit and
would love to be using it full-time.

Thanks,
JG

--==_20060728155105.31189-1_==
Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



Anyone have any idea how long it takes to get =
payment processed and receive a code=3F I bought PM last night...I am way =
past the 200 message limit and would love to be using it full-time.

Thanks,
JG




--==_20060728155105.31189-1_==--


manual is for version 3?

2003-03-07 Thread Jonathan Greene

Seems a bit odd, but the manual (help file and link) is for version 3,
not the current version...




Re(2): questions... just joined...

2003-03-07 Thread Jonathan Greene

Thanks for the quick replies... off to a strong start so far.  Love the
Address book integration and the killer filters.  

Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:45:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*

On Thu, Mar 6, 2003, Jonathan Greene said:

1 - Is it possible to see the number of unread messages in the dock and
per folder?

I don't think so but it would be nice.

2 - CNet HTML Newsletters seem to cause PM to choke... anyone else
experience that?  I've had to force quit a few times, just for them.

In Prefs, Uncheck the HTML Reader. The page will load quickly but all the
html will be seen. Then click on the globe icon and your favorite browser
will open with the page loaded. Hopefully when the Safari API's are
released they can be incorporated to the HTML viewer code.

3 - On the web site there is a floating search field/filter box... where
is that activated?

In the 3 pane view there is a little eye looking icon in the horizontal
divider. Click on it.

4 - Import from Mail.app?  How well/smooth is the process... just need to
start thinking about moving close to 1.7GB of mail if I purchase.

Give it a try but with that much mail it's likely to take a while. There
is a 30 day demo. I found the best way to evaluate was to live in
PowerMail for a while. Ask questions about doing what you want to
accomplish if you don't readily see a way.

-- 
Andy Fragen








Re: questions... just joined...

2003-03-07 Thread Jonathan Greene

Found this one.. the elusive View Only option...

Thu, 6 Mar 2003 23:16:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

3 - On the web site there is a floating search field/filter box... where
is that activated?

Thanks in advance!
JG




questions... just joined...

2003-03-07 Thread Jonathan Greene

Just joined the group and giving PowerMail a good test drive.

Some questions...

1 - Is it possible to see the number of unread messages in the dock and
per folder?

2 - CNet HTML Newsletters seem to cause PM to choke... anyone else
experience that?  I've had to force quit a few times, just for them.

3 - On the web site there is a floating search field/filter box... where
is that activated?

4 - Import from Mail.app?  How well/smooth is the process... just need to
start thinking about moving close to 1.7GB of mail if I purchase.

Thanks in advance!
JG