html forms within messages
we can send html formatted messages. can we send an html email which includes a form or link that when submitted would contact a web server and refresh the original html message with new cgi generated content? thx - eric
html forms within messages
we can send html formatted messages. can we send an html email which includes a form or link that when submitted would contact a web server and refresh the original html message with new cgi generated content? thx - eric
Problem with me.
I've got an interesting problem. At work we manage the mail for several domains, which are all subcompanies of the parent company (We're yet another incubator). The parent company e-mail is outsourced. What should I use for the ../control/me domain under such a scenario? I don't want bounce reports for one subcompany to read another subcompany's domain. That is, just choose one subcompany and make it the local domain and the rest virtuals. And if I put the parent company's domain into ../control/me I get bounces all over the place. See below. Jun 29 14:31:33 linux1 qmail: 962303493.427156 info msg 66303: bytes 1043 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 18584 uid 529 Jun 29 14:31:33 linux1 qmail: 962303493.482925 starting delivery 3: msg 66303 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 29 14:31:33 linux1 qmail: 962303493.483024 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Jun 29 14:31:33 linux1 qmail: 962303493.575209 new msg 66304 Jun 29 14:31:33 linux1 qmail: 962303493.575333 info msg 66304: bytes 1171 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 18587 uid 551 Jun 29 14:31:33 linux1 qmail: 962303493.641682 starting delivery 4: msg 66304 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 29 14:31:33 linux1 qmail: 962303493.641795 status: local 1/10 remote 1/20 Anyone?
Sendmail help
Hello List, I've been a long time (relative) user of qmail, and now need to use several sendmail machines. HOWEVER, all I have to do is make it so that mail sent from those machines arrives elsewhere as [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] This would be a control/me file change in qmail. Anyone know how to do the same on sendmail 8.9.3-10? - Eric Dahnke P.S. I have been all over sendmail.org, and found the relative info, but look at this url (http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html), and tell me if you could figure it out. I couldn't even find a mailing list for sendmail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Acknowledgment: I have added the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to this mailing list. See http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html for more information about qmail. Please read http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail/faq.html before sending your question to the qmail mailing list. --- Here are the ezmlm command addresses. I can handle administrative requests automatically. Just send an empty note to any of these addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Receive future messages sent to the mailing list. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Stop receiving messages. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive. DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST! If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you. To specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your subscription address, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I'll send a confirmation message to that address; when you receive that message, simply reply to it to complete your subscription. --- Below this line is a copy of the request I received. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 15821 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2000 20:28:18 - Received: from dfwns08.algx.net (216.99.225.37) by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 23 Mar 2000 20:28:18 - Received: from istreetlabs.com ([209.19.201.13]) by dfwns08.algx.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56809U5000L5300S0V35) with ESMTP id net for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:27:50 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:29:58 -0600 From: Eric Dahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ezmlm response References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. To confirm that you would like [EMAIL PROTECTED] added to this mailing list, please send an empty reply to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your mailer should have a Reply feature that uses this address automatically. This confirmation serves two purposes. First, it verifies that I am able to get mail through to you. Second, it protects you in case someone forges a subscription request in your name. See http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html for more information about qmail. Please read http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail/faq.html before sending your question to the qmail mailing list. --- Here are the ezmlm command addresses. I can handle administrative requests automatically. Just send an empty note to any of these addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Receive future messages sent to the mailing list. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Stop receiving messages. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive. DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST! If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you. To specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your subscription address, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I'll send a confirmation message to that address; when you receive that message, simply reply to it to complete your subscription. --- Below this line is a copy of the request I received. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 20207 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2000 20:22:47 - Received: from dfwns08.algx.net (216.99.225.37) by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 23 Mar 2000 20:22:47 - Received: from istreetlabs.com ([209.19.201.13]) by dfwns08.algx.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56809U5000L5300S0V35) with ESMTP id net for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:22:13 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:24:20 -0600 From: Eric Dahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
cyrus imapd w/ multiple server architecture?
Hello List, In order to support an unlimited number of virtual domains (and consequently lots of users), does anyone know of a way to utilize qmail w/ cyrus imap over a more than one server architecture? I'm keen on having front end qmail servers accepting mail and smtproute'ing it to back-end cyrus imap servers. The question is: when a user imaps in, how can I authenticate the user to the appropriate back-end cyrus server which holds their mail. Pipe Dream? - thx eric
Re: begging for mercy, I am swallowing pride.
I hear ya, I consider myself a fairly accomplished mail and unix sys admin, and can't get off the fetchmail list. Luckily I subscribed to that list with an address that was dispensible. My solution was to never retrieve that account again. Have you tried all the functionality afforded to you by the list, like ask for a list of subscribers? I think ezmlm can do that, I know majordomo can. See if you're on the list that is produced by that command/message. If so, separate out the text from that message which shows your address, and post it to the list along with the commands/msgs you're sending to remove yourself. If not, you best switch to qmail, because you'll be on the list for life. Saludos Eric Dahnke Chris Santerre escribió: I hate when people keep posting stupid stuff on a list. I am on numerous lists like everyone else. When you get these newbies that ask the stupidest things you have to grin and bear it. But when they keep beating a dead horse, you want to beat the term FAQ and HOWTO into there vocabulary. Well now I feel like I need the beating. All I want to do is get off this list. I got on when I was thinking of using qmail on one of our servers, but I didn't use it. So I get tons of things I don't need. I have tried just about everything. If somebody can't figure out this problem, I'll have to write a script that filters this stuff out. the following is an email I sent to another person that best describes the problem. Basically the return-path address in the header is the same as what I try to unsubscribe as, but it just says not in the list. PLEASE help me figure this out so I can stop wasting everyone's time. Here goes: If you can figure this one out for me, I am in your debt. I hate pasting in all this stuff, but I don't have a choice at this point. I have done the usual unsubscribe with no effect. Yes it tells me I am not in the list. So I searched the return path as you and about ten others have mentioned, including the ezmlm itself. It gives me the same name that I tried unsubscribing with. As with every other admin in the world, I have a lot of email addresses. I have tried them all. Here is a list of the email addresses I have tried to unsubscribe as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (An old email I inherited from previous admin's web design) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is an internal email id set by emwac) and the 1st 3 again with @mole.paginc.com It never gives me an error about my unsubscription, so I no they are not malformed. This branch of the company is using EMWAC email on an NT server w/ Norton antivirus email gateway. I don't think any of this matters but I figured I'd give you the whole scoop. So here's what it gives me: Received: from SMTP (unverified [208.165.176.194]) by mole.paginc.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:11:58 -0500 Received: from muncher.math.uic.edu ([131.193.178.181]) by 208.165.176.194 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:11:57 (GMT) Received: (qmail 6030 invoked by uid 1002); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Date: 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ezmlm response Delivered-To: responder for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 5512 invoked from network); 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 - Received: from mole.paginc.com (208.165.176.194) by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 7 Dec 1999 14:06:32 - Received: from SMTP (unverified [172.16.1.101]) by mole.paginc.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:10:13 -0500 Received: from paginc.com ([172.16.1.188]) by 172.16.1.101 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:10:12 (GMT) X-Mozilla-Status: 8003 X-Mozilla-Status2: X-UIDL: B494508.MSG Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. To confirm that you would like [EMAIL PROTECTED] removed from this mailing list, please send an empty reply to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your mailer should have a Reply feature that uses this address automatically. I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the mailing list
Re: another qmail-clean question
In my experience and based on other input from the list the best way to
eliminate messages from the queue is with the qmHandle script on the
qmail website (I don't think it's listed on the site with that name).
Works well for me.
- Eric
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:04:25 +0200 (EET) , dd writes:
i know that deleting a mail from the queue is not recommended (i don't
know why though) but i had to delete all the 29 mails waiting to be
Because qmail-send maintains its own information
about the contents of the queue, independent of what
is on disk. If the two get out of sync, qmail-send
will not be happy.
transferred (qmail-qstat said there were 29). i ran qmail-clean but had to
hit CTRL+C when there was no responce from it after ca 1min. qmail-qstat
said there were still 29 mails in the queue. i had thought it should have
removed some at least. i killed qmail-send and tried running qmail-clean
again but nth changed.
qmail-clean is used internally be qmail-send.
If you really need to delete messages from the queue,
kill qmail-send. When it's exited, look through
the output of qmail-qread for the message numbers
you want. Then delete everything corresponding to
those message numbers:
{local,remote,info,mess}/msgnum%23/msgnum
qmail-qread will not tell you about stuff in todo/
--
Chris Mikkelson | Microsoft: Where do you want to go today?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow?
| FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what?
Re: Serialmail
Read the TOISP file. - Eric Jose de Leon escribió: Would somebody kindly point me to a one page set of instructions on how to use SerialMail? The INSTALL that comes with serialmail simply says: 1. make 2. make setup check Now what am I supposed to do with the 2 files it apparrently creates, ./install and ./instcheck? I can pretty much guess what they do, but I don't want to make any assumptions. The man pages are nice, but there is no 'guide', nothing that gives a general overview on what needs to be done to get a simple serialmail session going. Much appreciated, Jose
Re: Benchmarks
Hi, I manage a qmail server which serves about 5000 pop users. We do it on a PII, with about 16G of disk space. A PII, is plenty of machine, but would have added more disk space if I had to do it over again. That server does about 20,000 msgs per day, and load average rarely breaks 1. I think Exchange is probably as fast as qmail (if you throw a few more resources at it), but it needs constant attention. Qmail needs no attention. That's the thing. - Eric Peter Green escribió: On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 12:56:12PM +0100, Marthe Nesøen Gangfløt wrote: Hi people, I need benchmarks and such to show my employer that Linux can rock mail better than NT Exchange (dohh). We use RedHat Linux and qmail for this, because that's where we have knowledge. This is somehing we might sell to customers of ours, and it's about 2000-5000 pop-users.. Can qmail manage that much on ONE single server? I can't speak for Exchange; nor can I speak for pop-users specifically. However, I have no qualms about qmail scaling that high. On our network, we have two qmail machines: a main relay server and an ezmlm ml server. Neither machine delivers anything local, so all deliveries are "remote" (even if on the same network). Here is the output from `zcat qmail-19991115.gz|localtai|matchup|zoverall`: [ relay server ] Completed messages: 50939 Recipients for completed messages: 191315 Total delivery attempts for completed messages: 200494 Average delivery attempts per completed message: 3.93596 Bytes in completed messages: 339800621 Bytes weighted by success: 917491749 Average message qtime (s): 180.223 Total delivery attempts: 224784 success: 197167 failure: 7485 deferral: 20132 Total ddelay (s): 17580934.661599 Average ddelay per success (s): 89.167734 Total xdelay (s): 1606541.947916 Average xdelay per delivery attempt (s): 7.147048 Time span (days): 0.993594 Average concurrency: 18.7141 [ ezmlm server ] Completed messages: 4786 Recipients for completed messages: 5319 Total delivery attempts for completed messages: 5415 Average delivery attempts per completed message: 1.13142 Bytes in completed messages: 26064596 Bytes weighted by success: 27721323 Average message qtime (s): 112.261 Total delivery attempts: 74849 success: 62120 failure: 1960 deferral: 10769 Total ddelay (s): 19233264.798056 Average ddelay per success (s): 309.614694 Total xdelay (s): 661400.438022 Average xdelay per delivery attempt (s): 8.836463 Time span (days): 0.983027 Average concurrency: 7.78727 The hardware/software for each: [ relay ] AMD K6-2 333 384MB RAM UW SCSI disk on Buslogic controller True tulip 100bTX NIC on 3com 10/100 switch, full-dup RH6 w/ 2.2.13 kernel qmail-1.03 + jbuce.diff + newlines.patch [ ezmlm ] Dual P90 EISA 128MB RAM FW SCSI disk on Adaptec 2940 3com 3c509 10bT on 3com 10/100 switch RH6 w/ 2.2.10 SMP kernel qmail-1.03 + jbuce.diff + newlines.patch ezmlm+idx-0.322 The relay machine is also our primary name server; the ezmlm machine (made entirely out of "junk" parts) also serves a little news with INN. I'd say a couple of thousand POP accounts are not totally unheard of... :) /pg -- Peter Green Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: guestimate of number of MTA hosts worldwide
I'm searching as best I can, but can't find a site which lists the approximate number of MTAs permanently connected to the internet. Anyone care to venture a guess, or mention a site where I can find such data. I figure around 100,000??? TIA - Eric
ANSWER OT: guestimate of number of MTA hosts worldwide
Source: http://www.sendmail.com/text/press/index.html More than 1.5 million copies of the Open Source sendmail are installed, representing over 75 percent of all Internet mail servers. Eric Dahnke escribió: I'm searching as best I can, but can't find a site which lists the approximate number of MTAs permanently connected to the internet. Anyone care to venture a guess, or mention a site where I can find such data. I figure around 100,000??? TIA - Eric -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: qmail remote delivery logic
Could someone explain how qmail manages to be faster for average msgs. I can't see how it would be. - Eric Jeff Hayward escribió: On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Russell Nelson wrote: Because it's faster. For the average message... :-) -- Jeff
Re: Dear Ol' DOS (and POP3 clients for same)
Hello. I've been down this road, and after trying mainly DOS pmail related solutions eventually settled on a packet driver, NCSA Telnet, and a maildir'd version of Pine. - Eric Barry Dwyer escribió: I've been asked to hang a DOS-based dialin PC on a client's LAN wherein we have a Linux server running Qmail. They need email access on this dialin so I need: 1. A freeware DOS TCP/IP stack; 2. A DOS-based POP3 client. Anyone have any ideas on these? (I've considered WATTCP + a packet driver for the former; PC Pine is IMAP so won't work in this situation). Thanks, Barry -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Ipchains and smtp/pop3?
If your smtp and pop3 stuff is slow, I can almost guarantee that the problem is DNS and not ipchains. How slow is it? If you're talking 30 secs or more, it is most likely a reverse DNS misconfiguration. - Eirc Bill Parker escribió: Hello all In running OpenLinux 2.2, and using ipchains, is there any optimizations which could be done with ipchains to speed up pop3/smtp access? Currently, I am only using two rules for ipchains on all machines which use ip masq in the office (about 25 or so): # enable ip forwarding echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies /sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY /sbin/ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.3.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0 Now, according to my Using Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 book by QUE, it is recommended that the following optimizations be added: ipchains -A output -p tcp -d 0/0 80 -t 0x01 0x10 ipchains -A output -p tcp -d 0/0 telnet -t 0x01 0x10 ipchains -A output -p tcp -d 0/0 22 -t 0x01 0x10 (though I deny telnet access to the box, and use ssh 1.2.2x instead) :-) then a section for maximum reliability for stmp: ipchains -A output -p tcp -d 0/0 smtp 0x01 0x04 then a section for minimum cost for pop-3 ipchains -A output -p tcp -d 0/0 pop-3 0x01 0x02 Now, will this configuration produce better performance in qmail 1.03, or can I just ignore what is in this chapter of the book? -Bill -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Any thoughts on instant messaging vs. smtp
I understand the pros and cons of each, but am interested in knowing if there is anyone on this list who thinks instant messaging has a chance of upseating smtp. - cheers Eric
Re: **URGENT** MAILSERVER stops working!!!!
What is a red herring? - Eric This could be a red herring. Chris
Re: On-Demand Mail Relay (ODMR)
Looks to me a lot like UUCP, ETRN. I'd say it is a wrongly directed initiative as any business worth a damn will have some type of permanent access in the near future. - Eric Peter Gradwell escribió: Hi, has anyone got an implementation of ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2645.txt It's On-Demand Mail Relay (ODMR) - SMTP with Dynamic IP Addresses by Randall Gellens of Qualcomm. for qmail maildirs? - guess it would be kinda like serialmail, but not, IYSWIM. thanks peter -- peter at gradwell dot com; http://www.gradwell.com/ gradwell dot com Ltd. Enabling the internet you don't see. -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Qmail and DNS failures
If there is no MX record for a given domain is it not standard practice that an A record is tried? - Eric Eric Davis escribió: I have noticed that there are message for invalid domain names sitting in my mail servers queue. It's not a problem to have stuff in the queue, but is there a way to tell qmail if some- thing does not have a valid MX record to bounce it rigth away back to the user? I can understand that this behavior would not be desirable in the case of the receivers DNS server being unavailable to produce an MX record. In this case, you'd want to give the message a day or so to make sure that this wasn't the case. Is there a way though to control how long something will stay in the queue, or to cause qmail to just bounce the message back if there is no valid DNS for the domain name in question? If anyone can either point me to the right place to read about this, or provide some information about this, I will greatly appreciate it. Thank you very much in advance for your help.. -Eric Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: How to share adressbooks for LAN
Although it may not be completely related I think it wouldn't kill anyone to watch a thread like this go by. I would be particularly interested in seeing some comments about this. My 2 cents. Eric Magnus Bodin escribió: On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 12:46:45PM +0100, Jon Lurås wrote: I got some LAN's with qmail and POP3. The users have different mail programs on PC. What is the best solution for distributing common adressboks? This is not a qmail issue. It depends on which email clients you use. Please either refer to the documentation of these or the list of 3rd party programs for these. Lykke till. -- magnus -- MOST useless 1998 * http://x42.com/
Re: qmail log (from field)
This has been discussed previously, and it is considered a bad idea to deny messages from , because that is the format used in many bounce messages. Something like that. - eric Edward Castillo-Jakosalem escribió: Hi again to all! I have a question about the log file. Please look at an entry below. info msg 205083: bytes 379 from qp xxx uid As we can see, the from field is empty. Is there a way that we can deny mails that don't contain 'from' from being relayed? Also is there a way that we can restrict the sender by the 'from' field? Say if the sender's domain is not xxx.com, then his mail is denied. Thanks in advance! -- Edward Castillo-Jakosalem
Primary and Secondary MXs
Hi, Assuming a domain's primary and secondary MXs are handled by two distinct servers. Is there a way to force mail into the secondary even if the primary is up and running without problems. Thx - eric + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Primary and Secondary MXs
Thanks for the response, but I mean from the senders point of view. My guess is no, other than a DoS which would open up access to the secondary. Thx - eric Russell Nelson escribió: Eric Dahnke writes: Assuming a domain's primary and secondary MXs are handled by two distinct servers. Is there a way to force mail into the secondary even if the primary is up and running without problems. Yes, turn off service on port 25. Either stop the associated tcpserver, or comment the entry out of /etc/inetd.conf.
Bandwidth usage, was [OT: saturating a T1..]
Thanks for the responses. I think I've got it. Here are my assumptions: - qmail running as a relay - peak concurrency of 200 - average msg size of 15K - a 15K msg requires an average of 20 sec smtp transfer time 15,000 bytes * 200 msgs --- = 150,000 bytes/sec * 7 bits/byte = 1.0Mb/s peak bandwidth usage. 20 secs transfer time So, when qmail hits a peak (perhaps somewhat sustained - remember its a relay, no spam would hit it) concurrency of 200, and the average msg size is 15K, we are looking at coresponding peak bandwidth usage of 1.0Mb/s. Sound reasonable? Regards, Eric Dahnke PS: from previous posts, I'm assuming that the 1.6 fudge factor (bytes transfered more than bytes the msg contains) washes with compression at the router.
Re: OT: saturating a T1 with e-mail
On Sun, 03 Oct 1999, Eric Dahnke wrote: Someone will scold me for this post, but would appreciate any thoughts: A T1 would be ~ 80% utilized passing 22,000msgs/hr if the average msg size was 23K. Thx You're not taking into account how the router will handle the traffic. You can compress data at the router, which can give significant performance gains. e.g. using stac compression on a Cisco Thanks all for the responses. There was a wide variation in replies (due to subjunctivity of the post), but there were a few replies which seemed to say ya -- 23K, 22,000 msgs/hr = 80% T1 utilization -- that sounds about right. Can I assume I was more or less on with my original assumption. Regards, Eric
OT: Average Internet e-mail size
Hello List, I'm curious as to the average size of an Internet mail. I know this is very subjective, but would like to hear what people think is the average size. My calculations based on qmailanalog over a long run give me 64K, and that seems big. Looking at my inbox, the average seems more like 4K. Anyone?
Re: OT: Average Internet e-mail size
Found what seems to be an answer at http://www.groupcomputing.com/Issues/1998/98SeptOct/98SOp32_EmailCrisis/98sop32_emailcrisis.html Looks like around 25K is the average. - Eric Eric Dahnke escribió: Hello List, I'm curious as to the average size of an Internet mail. I know this is very subjective, but would like to hear what people think is the average size. My calculations based on qmailanalog over a long run give me 64K, and that seems big. Looking at my inbox, the average seems more like 4K. Anyone?
OT: saturating a T1 with e-mail
Someone will scold me for this post, but would appreciate any thoughts: A T1 would be ~ 80% utilized passing 22,000msgs/hr if the average msg size was 23K. Thx
Re: Auth. SMTP-after-POP
Sure just put fetchmail or your pop application before serialmail in your ppp/ip-up scripts. - Eric Andreas Fiedler escribió: Hi, I have a problem with sending mail (of course :-) My new provider uses SMTP-after-POP. This means I have to receive Mail via POP before I can send outgoing mail. The provider uses it to reduce spammers. Is there any way I can realize that with Qmail/serialmail? I didn't find a authentication like that in the serialmail docs... Thanks in advance! Andreas PS.: The Qmail/serialmail lists seem like dead.. I didn't get mails for days.. only low traffic or is there something up? -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Warning message earlier than in 12 hours?
I believe that qmail does not produce such messages, rather they are generated by a third party application running in conjunction with qmail. I believe there are 2 such applications on the qmail site, and both are written in perl therefore making a change to the functionality rather simple if you know a bit of perl. - eric Toni Mueller escribió: Hello, a few days ago I received a message that qmail was unable to send a message within the last 12 hours. How do I tune this except for patching the source code? Thank you! Regards, Toni. NIC: TM2155 Oeko.neT Mueller Brandt GbR sales: [EMAIL PROTECTED] v: +49 2261 979364 f: +49 2261 979366 http://www.oeko.net Unix, networking, administration, consulting, programming, Internet services -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
qmail source and licensing question
Hello List, If a one modifies any of the code associated with qmail. Are they obligated to make available the modifications to the qmail community. OT: Is the above true of GPL when talking about GPLd sources? Regards - Eric
qmail queue
Hello list, DESCRIPTION qmail-queue reads a mail message from descriptor 0. It then reads envelope information from descriptor 1. In reference to this, I thought descriptor 0 was STDIN and descriptor 1 was STDOUT, How can qmail-queue read envelop information from descriptor 1. - thx eric
Re: qmail queue
So how does the message pass between the various parts of the qmail structure (inject, queue, send), if not via STDIN and OUT? I want to write a wrapper for qmail-queue, but am a novice. This is a long term project. thx Dave Sill escribió: Eric Dahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: qmail-queue reads a mail message from descriptor 0. It then reads envelope information from descriptor 1. In reference to this, I thought descriptor 0 was STDIN and descriptor 1 was STDOUT, How can qmail-queue read envelop information from descriptor 1. qmail-queue doesn't use stdin/stdout/stderr, so those descriptors are available for other uses. -Dave
Re: Patches revisited
Sorry for prolonging this most likely annoying thread, but I completely disagree with you. On the currentsite you've got simple access to qmail sources, man pages, list archives, patches, support, etc and it is well organized. What do you want animated gifs and sound? - eric Lyndon Griffin escribió: From the presentation of information perspective, the site is not all that good. Technically speaking, it is very good - fast loading, not a lot of BS graphics, accessible with all browsers, including the elite few of us who still use Lynx. I am concerned about the quality and quantity of information on the site. Certainly, QMail is a force in the industry, and I imagine that you and Dan Bernstein and countless others want it to be an even more powerful force. QMail is making money, of that there can be no doubt. Dan has a book deal, and you have a consultancy. People that use QMail are also making money - Hotmail, Blue Mountain Arts, NetDynamics, for instance. I like QMail, I want to continue to use QMail. I want to be informed about QMail, and my previous experience from www.qmail.org is that it is not a place to get informed. Yes, there is a patch list now on the page, and I applaud that effort. I never would have looked if I hadn't been slammed, however, because I had already written off www.qmail.org as a dead-loss for information. I know other people that have come away from the site with that same impression - even worse, I've had people tell me that the product must suck because the web site sucks. I don't argue with them because - number one, I've had a lot of trouble getting to the information I want, number two image is everything. It's the American Way, it's why companies advertise, and it's why people spend billions of dollars on the Internet. QMail is not a product that can continue to stand on it's own merits - people obviously have a lot of trouble with it, just look at the volume on this mailing list. It's time that information about QMail becomes as robust as QMail itself. Hearing from me that the site sucks shouldn't make you feel bad - after all, what do you know about me? I'm certainly no guru on QMail, which is the foundation of my criticism for the QMail site. There isn't a nice way to say that something sucks, lest you not get the message across. I prefer to be blunt. I got your attention. The current site, in my opinion, hurts QMail more that it helps. I have offered to help you, and my offer stands. It's easy to say something sucks. It's hard to do something about it. Let's do something about it. -Original Message- From: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 5:31 AM To: QMail List Subject: RE: Patches revisited Lyndon Griffin writes: Yeah, I went back, now that you mention it, and I see a lot of work has been done since I wrote it off as a dead-loss for information months ago. No offense, Russ, but the presentation of information there is about as good as any geoshitties site. And yes, that can be taken as an offer to help make things better, hence the reason for starting this thread. No offense, but your web site sucks? How *am* I supposed to take that other than as offensive? I mean, c'mon, really. If you think it sucks, say so, but don't think you can say it without hurting my feelings. It's best to strike the phrase "No offense, but" from your vocabulary. I prefer to list everything on one page because it minimizes latency. You download the page once, which doesn't take too awful long because there's almost no graphics. Then you use your browser's search function to find things that the internal navigation links don't bring you to by browsing. This, instead of the usual "click, wait. click, wait" you get from most other web sites. You can't do much with a small wait, but you can usually find something to do with a big wait to download a big page. So, since you think you can do better, what would you do differently? Split the page up? That would waste people's time. Add more information? I'm fine with that -- "send code", as they say. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool! -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Quick delivery question
Before fetchmail dumps any message to the listening smtp ports, it has options to completely rewrite both the user and domain part of the envelop recipient. I don't use multidrop, so can't say for sure, but the fetchmail options "is" and "smtpdomain" should fix your problem. - tah eric "Pieckiel, Kevin A" escribió: Hello, I have a computer that is running Q-Mail and fetching mail with fetchmail from a multi-drop box. Fetchmail is set to fetch every E-Mail message sent to our multi-drop box and forward them to Q-Mail via SMTP so that appropriate bounce messages can be generated. A web site that supports our efforts has a feedback E-Mail address that is redirected to several people, including an account in our multi-drop box. When mail is sent to the aforementioned E-Mail address in the above paragraph, fetchmail sees the address (which is NOT in our domain nor does it point to a valid user on our mail server), it redirects it to postmaster. I was hoping there would be an easy solution in Q-Mail that would allow me to trap messages to this specific address and forward them to the correct account on our mail server rather than have it go to the postmaster all the time. Somehow I don't know that this is best to handle in Q-Mail, but rather with fetchmail itself, but your input would be appreciated. Please tell me what more information you may need in order to offer assistence. Thanks, Kevin A. Pieckiel -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Disconnected Qmail??? 3rd Try!
You're talking about batch processing of mail via dial-up. I believe your only options are fetchmail, UUCP, ETRN or serialmail. All of which will move the mail in one form or another. Look at the different features of each package and figure out which one to install. Personally I use fetchmail and serialmail. fetchmail is an increadibly convoluted piece of software. very buggy in my opinion. but once you get it set up and stop touching it it will work well. serialmail works very well. No complaits. check out ETRN and UUCP Scott Sharkey escribió: Hello All! This is the third time I've posted, without response. Either it's not getting out, or no one knows the answer, or I should be reading a FAQ somewhere. Can anyone please point me to the right FAQ? Message Follows: I've got a mail server on a private network (192.168.x.x) which I want to periodically pick up mail from my server that's co-located elsewhere. Both servers are running qmail. The public server has MX records for my domain, pointing to it. Mail to/from there seems to be working just fine. Right now, I'm just using a pop client to pick up the mail when I'm connected, but that's not a good solution. I want the private server to periodically dialin, pick up the messages, send any that are queued (this is already working), and deliver via POP (also already working). SO, do I switch the public server from handling the mail as a standard domain to a virtual domain? How do I get the private server (which has a DYNAMIC IP address) to pickup the mail? I've looked at both fetchmail and serialmail. I think I understand how to do this with fetchmail, but I cannot make heads or tails of the serialmail "docs". I would LOVE to do this via ssh tunnelling if I can. It seems that serialmail will only work if the dialin server has a static IP address (ie, there's no way to tell it to send to my dialup dynamic address?) Any advice, suggestions, etc? -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Queue growing
On what basis did you think a reboot would make a difference? I don't know I've heard of more stupid things to do. On what basis do you think the DNS might be related to your delivery problems? I have just been notified that there are DNS problems in this region. thx - eric
more queue help,
Hello, I thought I had this licked, but our queue is at 1200. ps ax shows the following: 387 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 388 ? S0:00 qmail-remote BNA.COM.AR [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 389 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 390 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 391 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 392 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 393 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 394 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 395 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 396 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 397 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 398 ? S0:00 qmail-remote BNA.COM.AR [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 399 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 400 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 401 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 402 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 403 ? S0:00 qmail-remote bna.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 405 ? S0:00 qmail-remote altec.com.ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] But there are only 3 messages in the entire queue with the letters bna in them. And this ps snapshot has shown these same messages for hours and hours now? Sending qmail-send an ALRM does no good. No messages fly past in the maillog indicating failure type. ALRM has no effect on the queue. I've run make check from the source tree, and the ../queue/lock/trigger file is current with proper permissions. Remote concurrency is pegged at 20/20. Would increasing this help? How do I do that. We had national DNS problems here for the last day or two, but I'm told that is fixed. We run qmail under tcpserver with pop and smtp concurrency at 150. The logs show nothing abnormal except that qmail is seriously favoring the delivery of local messages. You have to watch for a long time before it finally processes a remote message. Anyone seen anything like this before? thx - eric
Re: HELP! queue not sending
check that you've got enough smtp ports available. I've seen our queue build like that when we hit tcpservers default 40 smtp sessions limit. (On a side note am i correct in saying that tcpservers 40 default is not the same as concerrency remote)? is port 25 slow to respond? and how about syslog, is it eating a lot of cpu? + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + - eric User JAMES escribió: On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Chris Johnson wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 03:14:06PM -0400, User JAMES wrote: I used qmHandle and can see no real pattern as to which emails aren't working. I've sent qmail-send serveral ALRM signals, rebooted, etc, to no avail; syslog shows no errors that appear relevant. I'll be the first to say it: what's in the logs? There you'll find a reason as to why a message was deferred. Like I said, it doesn't show anything that I can see: Aug 17 14:02:03 richard2 qmail: 934912923.663159 end msg 274702 Aug 17 14:02:10 richard2 qmail: 934912930.571908 new msg 274702 Aug 17 14:02:10 richard2 qmail: 934912930.573256 info msg 274702: bytes 780 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 20832 uid 1825 Aug 17 14:02:12 richard2 qmail: 934912932.925614 new msg 274705 Also, before sending an ALRM to qmail-send, run /var/qmail/bin/qmail-tcpok. I did, per the FAQ... anything else?
comments on virus scanning
hola qmailers, I've been in the archives for a while looking at this previously discussed topic and would like to make some comments on the typical responses: No virus scanning package would be very efficient without continual updates. This is the norm for all anti-virus packages and has been for years. Don't understand where people are pulling that from. What's more most any server would have continual conectivity, and updates ought to be fairly transparent. Virus scanning should be done on the client machine This is complete counter logic in my opnion. How can anyone argue that anit-virus installations, scans, and updates are better done all client machines when a single installation, scan, and update point is available on the server? Viruses are being increasingly sent as encrypted msgs Ok, you're got an arguement against server based scanning there, but the question is; If the virus intially comes out in a pgp message, it will not be propagated in an encrypted format if the people that resend don't use pgp. Or an I wrong there? The final point seems the me the only possible achiles heal of a server based virus scanning system. A virus scanning implementation would be extremely valuable, and can't understand why the qmail community so shuns the idea. I know that the virus scanning software for NT goes for upwards of $20,000 per installation. How is it that all you qmail developers have not embraced this big dollar topic as an opportunity. And the modulatity of qmail - come on! Cheers, - eric + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Outlook Express and remove message after X time
Shouldn't be like that unless their copy of Outlook is broken. What's the acronym ULID? Ken Jones escribió: Does anyone know if the qmail pop3 server (or any patches) support the Outlook Express features to: 1) Leave a copy on the server 2) Delete copy after X days Not surprisingly, people who set this option end up downloading the same email every time they check pop, untill X days are over. -- Ken Jones mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inter7.com/qmailadmin/ - web based qmail adminstration -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
sending a message to all users
Hello Kind List, I know this has been asked before, but couldn't come up with anything in the archives. This is for a system with about 5000 users. I've got a perl script which will deliver the message to every user on the system who has a Maildir. But can't figure out the best mechanism for injecting the message. - Mailsubj would work beautifully, but the message won't arrive to the users with anything other than a [EMAIL PROTECTED] It needs to arrive with a friendly name, Director. - Copying a file into everyones Maildir works, but doing that gives me screwy line lengths and the date of the message upon arrival seems iffy. - qmail-inject, incorporating qmail-inject into the script seems clumsy The server I'm doing this on has ezmlm installed. But I haven't investigated this as an option. HOW WOULD YOU GUYS DO THIS? thx - eric + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
OT, quitting mailsubj from within a script
Hello List, We have the following script on our mailserver to catch telnet attempts: #!/bin/sh logger "WARNING!!! Somebody wants to log into the system!!!" /var/qmail/bin/mailsubj "Login attempt at Mail Server!" [EMAIL PROTECTED] exit 0 However, this script stays alive until the user closes the attempted telnet session. I assume it stays alive because mailsubj is sitting there waiting for the Cntrl D. Can someone suggest how to modify my script so that it runs and exits immediately. Maybe qmail-inject? Thx Eric + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Qmailanalog, want per msg information
I'll try this again, I'm looking to provide a daily report which shows who sent what and to whom. perhaps something like this: 10:01FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:01FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14:02FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I downloaded someone's perl script which advertised this functionality, but it just gave me raw maillog data as output. And qmailanalog won't give an output like I'm needing (at least I can't figureout how to get something like the above out of it.) Anyone? many thx - eric
Serialmail won't run from cron
Hello, I'm using serialmail-70 over a ppp link for outgoing mail on a linux box. From the ip-up scripts it runs perfectly. However, if the conection stays up, I call serialmail from a crontab on the hour. I have the path to tcpclient set as a system wide path, and call serialmail from the crontab as root. Neither serialmail nor fetchmail run when called from the crontab if they are currently running. When called from the crontab, syslog always spits one (or both) of the 2 following errors: Jul 2 10:00:02 gateway serialmail: 930920402.294743 maildirserial: fatal: unabl e to get scanner status: no child processes Jul 2 11:00:01 gateway serialmail: 930924001.911220 maildirserial: fatal: unabl e to run tcpclient: file does not exist Anyone? Cheers - eric + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas E-mail - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
alias problem (no mailbox here by that..)
Can't figure this one out. Here is the .qmail file in ~alias: -rw-r--r-- 1 root qmail 7 Jun 29 12:18 .qmail-centroculturald elacooperacion-educacion and here is the bounce: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at nmail.rcc.com.ar. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) Is there a limit on the length of aliases? Anyone know why this alias is not working? thx - eric + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas E-mail - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
repost: alias problem (no mailbox here by that..)
Can't figure this one out. Here is the .qmail file in ~alias: -rw-r--r-- 1 root qmail 7 Jun 29 12:18 .qmail-centroculturaldelacooperacion-letras and here is the bounce: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at nmail.rcc.com.ar. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) Is there a limit on the length of aliases? Anyone know why this alias is not working? thx - eric + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas E-mail - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Netscape mail problem
It doesn't have anything to do with inetd or tcpserver. Check the file /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts and check out the FAQ about relaying jinfeng escribió: The FAQ seems to assume that I run qmail-smtpd under tcpserver. That's not the case for me. And I really don't like to install a tcpserver if I don't have to. Among all other things, changing boot script in RedHat is really painful for me. Is there any other solutions? Thanx. On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Dustin Marquess wrote: At 01:19 AM 6/9/99 , jinfeng wrote: I am using qmail1.03 as MTA on my RedHat Linux 6.0. The server seems to work ok if I use pine as client. However, when I use Netscape mail, I could not send mail out, it always complain "that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts(#5.7.1). Please check the message recipients and try again." I can send to the same recipient by Pine without any problem. In the Netscape preference, my setting is outgoing mail(SMTP) server : localhost outgoing mail server user name: jinfeng Can anyone tell me what's wrong with my setting and how to correctly set up Netscape as my mail client? Thanks a lot. This is in the FAQ. You want the part about selective relaying. -Du -Dustin
scan a maildir for msgs w/attch
Hi, Only messages which contain attachments, contain the following line: Content-Disposition: true or false If I'm off tack, how else do you determine when a msg contains an attahment? Many thx eric
qmailanalog - get sender and recipient?
Hello Qmailers, I currently use qmailanalog in conjunction with some zscripts. Works fine, but was wondering if it is possible to get sender and recipient on a per msg basis. Perhaps something like this? [EMAIL PROTECTED]== [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]== [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]== [EMAIL PROTECTED] out of some combination of x and z scripts? I see in the qmailanalog documentation the following statement "You can feed the x* output through the z* scripts" I belive this would be the way to accomplish what I want, but haven't been able to get any results. thx - eric
headers in other languages (simple Y/N)
Hello qmailars, Sorry to bother, but would appreciate the help. Do the Subject: From: and To: lines within message headers always read Subject: From: and To: without being translated into another language? I see that the headers are occasionally translated into other languages, but I'm fairly sure it is the e-mail client which does it. Thx - eric + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas E-mail - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: local delivery. different domain, different user (fwd)
There is something called virtualdomains to do this. See the FAQ and search the archives. It's very easy. - eric Joao Paulo Pagaime escribió: Hello all Sorry if this is a repetition but I suppose I goofed up sending the message yesterday... I would like to have qmail setup to receive mail for 2 different domains. But would like the addresses from those domains to be routed for different users on the machine. Example: name@domain1 -- user 'abc' name@domain2 -- user 'def' So I went to the users/assign and setup =name@domain1:abc... =name@domain2:def... But qmail-lspawn doesn't seem to find these addresses. I did a little snooping on qmail-lspawn.c and found out that qmail-lspawn truncates the domain part 'r[at] = 0;', so theres no way it will find out the address/user properly. Removing 'r[at] = 0;' on 'qmail-lspawn.c' does the work but then I have an unstable qmail... Can someone help me? What am I doing wrong? Is there other way of doing this ? Thanks, Joao Pagaime PS: mail does get to "qmail-spawn" but it doesn't find out the addresses on the table...
keep copy of all outgoing mail
Hi, Will what is explained in the FAQ work if the qmail server in question uses serialmail for outgoing mail? cheers - eric
Re: Mailing lists on dial-up box
I don't think any of you are understanding his problem. The problem is that singular e-mail is not sent out singularly, but that it is separated in to 500 separate messages, creating 500 times the traffic load. I have the same problem with a few customers. I know that is how qmail is designed. Anyway, I believe that is the problem he is referring to. - eric RaTao von J escribió: so, if you have a ISP machine (with a T1) that will relay mail for you (with a 2 8.8k) I think that you should use it always! it's better to connect to the machi ne that is 2 hop's away than machines 200 hops away :) you should have your domain in locals, so the only step left is adding: :relay.some.isp.net to your control/smtproutes file that will create a "default" smtproute to the relay. regards, ratao On 29-May-99 Doug Lumpkin wrote: Ok... Entire situation. One linux box with internet access (28.8 modem), on a network. They do not want employees to have internet access, so none of the machines can reach anything other than what is on the local network. Qmail is set-up as the SMTP server and processes both interoffice and internet mail. They have small internet mail load and a large interoffice mail load, except when once a week a large mailing list is distributed. The interoffice mail is distributed locally and never has to traverse the internet. Importantly, This is what they want! What I would like to do is have qmail notice that the message it is processing is to more than 30 bcc addresses and then decide to pass that to a different SMTP server to be processed at the ISP. This way their dial-up line is not cruching messages for hours non-stop. I would appreciate any suggestions you might have... -- Doug Lumpkin PacInfo Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: I dont see why this is necessary. Have you ever heard of virtual hosts? Mail exchangers? POP boxes? Virtual Domains? etc, etc? It might help us to better help you, if you explain the entire situation? On Fri, 28 May 1999, Doug Lumpkin wrote: I realize there might be better ways to do this, but none of their machines are connected to the internet, only the gateway machine is. So it has to be running SMTP to accept their messages and then direct them out onto the net... -- Doug Lumpkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: On Fri, 28 May 1999, Frederik Lindberg wrote: qmail isn't made for dialups. Use the serialmail package for remote mail instead. Local delivery with qmail and all remote mail goes to a Maildir from where it is sent to the smarthost via serialmail. SMTP itself really isnt optimized for dialup, it's not just qmail. There are tons of ways to run a more efficient mailer from a dialup box without using SMTP or even serialmail. qmtp is an option Bruce Guenter has a nullmailer package that might be of some use. ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 5:40pm up 113 days, 43 min, 3 users, load average: 0.13, 0.17, 0.18 -- Doug Lumpkin PacInfo Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 6:00pm up 113 days, 1:03, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.12 -- E-Mail: RaTao von J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 29-May-99 Time: 01:56:40 --
Re: qmLogsort
So where is it? cheers - eric Mads E Eilertsen escribió: On 27 May 1999, Monte Mitzelfelt wrote: I think this one is ready for primetime. It groups mail log records by message and delivery. It eliminates all of that scrolling up and down in the log file looking for outcomes.
Limit max msg size per virtual dom - SOLVED (i think)
Halo halo, To create different max message size limits per virtual domain, would the following work? in virtualdomains domain.com.ar:admin-domain-databytes in ~admin-domain-databytes/.qmail-default | bouncesaying "message too big" [wc -c -gt 10] admin-domain in ~admin-domain all the .qmail-info .qmail-fred .qmail-frank etc... WILL IT WORK? cheers - eric
databytes max msg per domain
Hello qmailers, I am in need of setting message size limits on a per virtual domain basis. I've got a system wide /control/databytes limit, and can see that I can limit on a per user basis via: |bouncesaying 'Message too big' [ `wc -c` -gt 1 ] in the users .qmail file. What would be fantastic is if I could put |bouncesaying 'Message too big' [ `wc -c` -gt 1 ] in the .qmail-default file for the user which controls each virtual domain. But that doesn't work, or am I doing something wrong? If I'm out of luck on the above tack, anyone care to share how they would go about limiting message size on a per virtual domain basis. DATABYTES environment var and tcpd? Cheers - eric
Re: DSN
I got around this problem with my users by telling them that MDN is a better read reciept technology. It provides a true read reciept. DSN is just a delivery reciept. However, I understand that there are a lot of e-mail clients which don't support both forms of read reciepts. - eric "Ferri Andy Ch." escribió: Hi all, I posted this DSN issue last week, and not a single response to it. Is there any body care about this feature? DSN is very important to me, and I believe also important for a lot of people, and it's very shame to discover that qmail (claimed as more advance than sendmail) not support this feature. Security is top priority in qmail, as far as I know, but how come the nice security support feature like DSN is out of questions? Please at least someone give me a good reason why, or maybe explain to me that DSN is not so important as I think now. I really appreciate any kind of response. At least I know that this qmail community is as friendly and helpful as any other Linux community. Best regards, Ferri Andy Ch. -- // chandy a7 cbn 607 net 607 id ---/ // Linux kernel 2.2.5 XFree86 3.3.2.3 //Glib/Gtk 1.2.1 Enlightenment 0.16 // Mozilla 4.51---/ -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas E-mail - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Bad domain is not bounced back immediately?
Hello List, With other mailers upon sending a message with a bad domain, the sender receives a rather quick return message saying that the mailer was unable to deliver the message, but will continue trying for a predetermined number of attempts/time. Qmail does this, but does not kick a message back to the user telling them so. Is there a way to configure qmail to send that message. Regards - Eric
Re: checkpassword is the problem.
We maintain a linux mailserver that uses PAM and Shadow and has about 4000 users. We have had no problems with checkpassword-0.81. The problem must be somewhere else. BTW when you compiled checkpasswd did you change the encrypt function in the Makefile to -lcrypt? That is necessary for linux. chau - eric Reid Sutherland escribió: checkpassword-0.81 with pam mods seems not to be able to handle a shadow passwd file over a certain amount of users. Mine has about 4000 users and it takes a year for it to find the passwd. Any ideas on what I can do to get rid of this problem? Reid Sutherland Network Administrator ISYS Technology Inc. http://www.isys.ca Fingerprint: 1683 001F A573 B6DF A074 0C96 DBE0 A070 28BE EEA5
feedback when message cannot be delivered immediately
Hello List, Is there a way to get qmail to deliver those messages which say (more or less): Your message could not be delivered to xxx. Do not send it again, your message will remain in the mail queue and will be attempted to be delivered for 7 more days. Qmail obviously does that, but doesn´t kick back the message to sender telling them what it is doing. regards - eric + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
serialmail/qmail workaround needed
Hello List, I've got a dialup client with a qmail/fetchmail/serialmail instalation acting as their mailgateway. The client wants to restrict some of the accounts to internal mail use only. Question is, how can I keep such restricted users' messages from ending up in serialmail's outgoing pppdir? (obviously, the restricted user would never receive any external messages, but he or she would be able to send to any external address they like, no?) - cheers eric
Re: Back-up scheme, 2 qmail servers
Andy Walden escribió: - an identical qmail installation on a backup machine - daily copy of /home /control and /alias to backup machine - in the event of a massive failure unplug the ethernet from the main server and plug into the backup machine. (I realize we will lose the queue --normally just full of waiting bounces-- and all msgs received for local users since the last backup) My question is, will there be any implications "Out_There" of suddenly having a new IP and hostname for our mailserver, assuming we make the appro DNS changes? If its not going to be online unless failure occurs, why would you give it a different ip or hostname? Because the two machines are connected via a second 192. network which does the backup. Therefore, must have different IP's and hostname. thx - eric
Re: Back-up scheme, 2 qmail servers
Cris Daniluk escribió: Eric Dahnke wrote: Hello List, We have a server moving about 9000 msgs per day and want to have a second qmail server waiting on our network to take over in the event of a failure. Our current thinking is: - an identical qmail installation on a backup machine - daily copy of /home /control and /alias to backup machine - in the event of a massive failure unplug the ethernet from the main server and plug into the backup machine. (I realize we will lose the queue --normally just full of waiting bounces-- and all msgs received for local users since the last backup) My question is, will there be any implications "Out_There" of suddenly having a new IP and hostname for our mailserver, assuming we make the appro DNS changes? Any other comments on this kind of idle machine waiting backup scheme? (the main mail server is dpt raid fived) cheers - eric Why don't you just set up your second server as an MX server and use the handy dandy MX routing feature in named to automatically reroute mail in the event of a failure. The MX server will hold all the messages while you repair your server and automatically resend them when everything is back online. This is probably the perfect solution for you, *especially* since you have a raid 5. Don't be looking for a harddrive failure anytime soon :) Your harddrives are the only irreplaceable components because they contain your data, so anything else could be repairable in the time it takes you to scrounge up the hardware. OK, I was thinking about something similar, but you've got me here. You say "The MX server will hold all the messages while you repair your server and automatically resend them when everything is back online." What do you mean by hold all the messages? Our mailserver does both smtp and pop, so therein lies the problem. Great, so the MX rolls and the backup server accepts smtp for our domains. But what about pop? When the primary server comes back up, users would need to pop both servers to get all their mail, and that would turn into a mess. Or am I not understanding. thx - eric
usernames with dashes
Hello, Is it true that the only way to deliver messages to usernames that contain dashes is to recompile qmail telling it to use a different escape character than - cheers - eric
Re: root mail problem
Hello, qmail won´t deliver to root. make a .qmail-root file in ~alias and within that file put user to deliver root´s mail to user. - cheers eric Hi ! Since I reinstalled (upgraded) FreeBSD to 3.1 I can get mail for root. I can send mail or get mail at any of addresses, but not as root. Maillog log shows this error: Mar 4 18:27:15 atechnet qmail: 920568435.241139 delivery 1052: deferral: Not_allowed_to_perform_deliveries_as_root./ I had little rpoblems with permissions on several files so if someone shows me how must I set files, I would be very thankful. Or maybe there is another problem. Please help. Andy ** * Aleksander Rozman - Andy * Member of: E2:EA, E2F, SAABer, Trekkie, * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * X-Phile, Heller's angel, True's screamer, * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* True's Trooper, Questie, Legacy, PO5, * * Maribor, Slovenia (Europe) * Profiler, Buffy (Slayerete), Pretender* * ICQ-UIC: 4911125 * * PGP key available *http://www.atechnet.ml.org/~andy/ * **
locals and virtual domains
Sorry folks, I realize this is one of the questions you all really hate hearing. I appologize, I´ve been in the archives, man pages, and FAQ for hours. The Virtual Domians portion of the FAQ only mentions the files rcpthosts and virtualdomains, but not locals. So, don´t scream that I´m asking this. virtualdomains company.com.ar:domain-company Simply, do I need to have qmail-user qmail-user-domain within ~domain-company or if I put company.com.ar in locals can I avoid (without creating any complications) the second .qmail file? thx, don´t screem - eric
Timestamps and message arrival times
Hi, I'm trying to figure out how the time stamping mechanism works for messages which propogate the internet. I have been looking for a tutorial but found none. The archives provided help, and man datetime did not. I'm in one timezone and my mailserver in another, so have been able to do some testing. Here are conclusions I've made based on the results of my testing. - The sending e-mail client sets the definitive time stamp in the message header (Date:) - The receiving e-mail client uses the Date: field for minutes and seconds, but adjusts the hour according to the timezone changes associated with the server hops recorded in the header? Ok have your laugh, but how the hell else is the minute field conserved (per what the sending client entered), yet the message arrives with the correct local hour. - I changed the localtime setting on the mailserver (in the other timezone), but it didn't effect the arrival time shown within my mail client? That is because qmail always lives in GMT, no? And what if you have mail users who pop your server from different timezones? Cheers - eric
SOLVED AGAIN HELP: NOT SOLVED ! ! looks like a SYN attack
Thanks Dave, That solved it. We're running Linux kernel 3.0.26, and I'm sure it is protected from SYN attacks. Here is a summary of what happened. - port 25 was not responding because /var was full. - I removed most of the old logs and rebooted. - port 25 came back, but only for a few minutes. - noticed the possible SYN flood in log/messages - deleted the current messages and maillog logs as Dave suggested below and teh SYN messages (and presumably the attacks? - for some reason port 25 was full up) stopped and port 25 came back. thanks to those who responded. - eric Dave Hansen escribió: Hello Eric, Have you removed the log files from /var/log/ ? Most importantly the maillog. Then reboot. Sounds like a problem I had once caused lots of Zombie processes and once I removed the maillog and rebooted it was fine. Also what flavor of linux are you using? Thanks, Dave
RELAYCLIENT and inetd
Hello list friends, First, there is no way set RELAYCLIENT (via inetd, tcpserver, or some patch) based on domain name rather than IP, correct? (I realize it would be weak) Second, with inetd it is not possible to set RELAYCLIENT with a wildcard * (24.232.12.*), but with tcpserver yes, correct? Regards - eric
Re: Maildir/cur ???
And if the user then switches his mail client to "not leave msgs on server" they are removed from cur, no? - eric Hello all, What is the meaning of the Maildir/cur directory? I have a user with 300 messages and they are not in the Maildir/new, they are in Maildir/cur. What puts them into that dir? He checks his mail with Netscape Communicator 4.x and and say's he download then every time he checks the mail. Chris From man maildir: Files in cur are just like files in new. The big differ- ence is that files in cur are no longer new mail: they have been seen by the user's mail-reading program. Actually, I believe that qmail-pop3d moves whatever messages are in new when at the time qmail-pop3d is started to cur once qmail-pop3d receives a quit command from the client, regardless of whether or not the client has downloaded the messages: On mail server: root@mail:/var/MailDirs/testuser/ # find . ./tmp ./new ./new/919101259.11212.mail.cimedia.com ./new/919101260.11231.mail.cimedia.com ./new/919101260.11240.mail.cimedia.com ./new/919101261.11262.mail.cimedia.com ./new/919101261.11270.mail.cimedia.com ./new/919101262.11278.mail.cimedia.com ./cur From a client: redshift:~ telnet mail 110 Trying 172.16.0.2... Connected to mail.cimedia.com. Escape character is '^]'. +OK [EMAIL PROTECTED] user testuser +OK pass testuser +OK quit +OK Connection closed by foreign host. redshift:~ Even though the client didn't actually see the messages, back on mail server: root@mail:/var/MailDirs/testuser/ # find . ./tmp ./new ./cur ./cur/919101259.11212.mail.cimedia.com:2, ./cur/919101260.11231.mail.cimedia.com:2, ./cur/919101260.11240.mail.cimedia.com:2, ./cur/919101261.11262.mail.cimedia.com:2, ./cur/919101261.11270.mail.cimedia.com:2, ./cur/919101262.11278.mail.cimedia.com:2, I'm not sure I like this behavior. I'm thinking about patching qmail-pop3d so that it only moves messages that the user has RETR'ieved. Either that or at least add a flag to the Info field of the filename. We'd like to delete messages on the mailserver that are older than X that we know the client has retrieved and we don't really know for sure which those message are. Yes, we could make assumptions about the behavior of pop cients, but I'd rather not do that.
snapshot of qmail´s health
Hi, What is the best way to get a snapshot of qmail´s current health. Currently I use ps and top and a perl script to see the size of the queue. But there has got to be a better way. I looked at the archives, web site, and FAQ but didn´t see anything. What the hell is concurrency remote? Thx - eric __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Am I being exceedingly silly?
If his machine is on a home network behind a dial-up conection what the hell does it matter. - eric DO NOT do this, you will get blacklisted in one qucik hurry. Quoting Eric Dahnke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Remove the file rcpthosts from /var/qmail/control Qmail will then accept mail destined for whereever. Tah - eric It's late and I'm probably being silly, but.. I have qmail running on my Linux system at home, this has a dial-up connection to my ISP. It sends and receives mail quite happily from the Linux system. It also allows other users on the home network to receive mail using POP3 from the qmail POP3 server on the Linux box. BUT, how are users on other oomputers on the home ntwork meant to send mail? They connect to the qmail SMTP server, try and send mail and it says:- 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) So how is it supposed to work? How can other computers on my SoHO network send mail Help Maybe I've just had too much to drink tonight! -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/ __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Am I being exceedingly silly?
If his machine is on a home network behind a dial-up conection what the hell does it matter. - eric DO NOT do this, you will get blacklisted in one qucik hurry. Quoting Eric Dahnke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Remove the file rcpthosts from /var/qmail/control Qmail will then accept mail destined for whereever. Tah - eric It's late and I'm probably being silly, but.. I have qmail running on my Linux system at home, this has a dial-up connection to my ISP. It sends and receives mail quite happily from the Linux system. It also allows other users on the home network to receive mail using POP3 from the qmail POP3 server on the Linux box. BUT, how are users on other oomputers on the home ntwork meant to send mail? They connect to the qmail SMTP server, try and send mail and it says:- 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) So how is it supposed to work? How can other computers on my SoHO network send mail Help Maybe I've just had too much to drink tonight! -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/ __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: syslog.mail
I believe fairly standard practice for syslog files is to do a cp to a new file cp maillog maillog.bak then cp /dev/null /var/log/maillog That is what I do at least. chau - eric Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can I move the syslog.mail file and make a new one safely? mv syslog.mail syslog.mail.1 you must also create the syslog.mail file, before restarting syslogd. It will only append to an existing file. Not with the default linux syslogd. Greetz, Peter. -- .| Peter van Dijk .| [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Splogger w/ serialmail. More logging info?
Hello List, Splogger logs my outgoing serialmail connections as such. Jan 13 19:26:03 gateway splogger: 916266363.922180 maildirserial: info: new/916257200.459.gateway.godel.com.ar succeeded: 199.227.85.32 said: 250 ok 916269611 qp 4983 Is there anyway to get more information than this? I'd like to get the sender's address if possible. Sender and recipient even better. Many thx - eric __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: web-based mail
This is probably a case of Famous Last Words, but: How hard can it be to set up a web-based pop3 client? There are cgi web mail clients that set up in about 15 mins. People are big on Mailman, but I prefer Dmailweb. Given that all I want is to give my existing users access to their mail through the web. Look at Web-pop (an add-on for MDaemon) to see what I mean. Admittedly, I am no programmer, but wouldn't it be (relatively) easy to write a cgi (or perl or something) script sending appropriate commands to my pop3 server? Why, when others have already done this for you. Some of these cgi web based packages are free, some cost a few hundred ponies. This is another task with an unreasonable deadline, any ideas other than buying a package which costs many US dollars? (our exchange rate sucks big lumpy bits) My only requirement is that we can stick with qmail - I have spent way too much sweat learning linux and qmail (simultaneously) to want to dump either of them. Dmailweb and a number of other of these packages just talk pop3, imap, and smtp. They can be used with any mailserver. Also, are there any web-based remote administration packages out there? More specifically, I need to be able to provide privilidged users with the right to add users remotely. That you will probably have to write yourself. There are lots of perl examples for doing user admin via the web, but I wouldn't install any of them without really understanding the code. Personally I do this user admin stuff via the web using shell scripts. Perl is obviously better, but I don't know it well enough yet. Also, my machines are dial-up only, so security isn't as big an issue. Oh, I wrote in about a week ago, saying that I was setting up qmail on RedHat 5.1, couldn't retreive remote mail, etc. I am sure lots of people replied (hint, hint) but I wouldn't have known, because soon after I sent it through, our mail server (Exchange, ack, ptew) fell over. A blessing in disguise! with exchange gone, I started receiving incoming mail, and since installing checkpassword (shouldn't this package be mentioned in the documentation somewhere? (apologies if it is)), I can read mail through a pop3 client... -- Allen Versfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wandata "I hate quotations" - Ralph Waldo Emerson __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: spambait?
Have any of you seen the spam prevention system Brightmail uses. I found it well thought-out, and is quite similar to what you folks are talking about. If what you have not looked at it, I would recommend it, as it may give this development some ideas. www.brightmail.com Adelante!!! - Eric Russell Nelson escribió: [ I've been in India for the past twelve days, helping rediff.com get rid of sendmail. Catching up on old mail. ] Edward S. Marshall writes: On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Russell Nelson wrote: Is this of interest to anyone? Is anyone doing it already? It's not a qmail-specific thing, although the code for the sender and receiver would be. There's a slight problem here...how do you prevent someone from maliciously injecting bogus addresses into the list? Some form of authentication included in the message to the list? It would be membership based. Probably comparing the envelope sender and site would be sufficiently safe. It seems to me that this is a system that would imply a great deal of trust. The trust could be developed. You'd also need some form of filtering to ensure that multiple copies of the same address never make it to the mailing list, so that all the recipients don't need to take on the work of processing them several times. Yes, probably. Why not just do it as an RBL-style list, so as to make the information more easily queried? Have the auto-submissions simply add the address to an RBL-style DNS zone, and you're all set. Anyone with an RBL-aware system (which is damn near anyone, these days) can then use your blacklist, and storage/expiration would be centralized. Supposedly RSS is already doing that. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool! -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Dear Ol' DOS (and POP3 clients for same)
Hello, The pine software runs on the server, you just install a packet driver (see www.Crynwr.com) and IP telnet client (find NCSA Telnet) on the DOS machines. No mail software runs on them under this scenario. You run the mail software remotely, via telnet. I don't remember where I got it, but the following rpm, will instantly update your version of pine to maildir. Do a search for it. pine-4_02-maildir-glibc_i386.rpm Tah, eric Barry Dwyer escribió: Thanks for the input on this question. I know that Pine needs to be patched to work with Maildir; how does one do this to the DOS variety of PINE? BD Russell Nelson wrote: Eric Dahnke writes: Hello. I've been down this road, and after trying mainly DOS pmail related solutions eventually settled on a packet driver, NCSA Telnet, and a ^ maildir'd version of Pine. Hehe. Good choice. :) While on my way to India two weeks ago to help rediffmail.com with a scalable qmail architecture, I was on a layover in Frankfurt. The "departures" video displays had some trouble and they all rebooted. They run DOS, and I noticed a familiar message among the usual DOS messages, from all the way across the room. One was still booting, so I trotted over, and sure enough, they use a Crynwr packet driver. Cheap thrills ensured. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Concurrency, and your average mail server
Hello List, A default qmail/tcpserver installation can do incoming and outgoing concurrency of about 255 each, no? How does this compare to the default configs of the best (or better) known e-mail servers like sendmail, Post.Office, Postfix, NTmail, Exchange, Netscape's mail server, etc... Anyone?
Re: Command-line mailer
Mailsubj man mailsubj - Saludos Giancarlo Bonansea escribió: Hi, I'm using QMail 1.03 and I need to send a .tar.gz file as an attached file on a scheduled basis (crond) using a command-line mailer. I'm looking for one but I didn't find yet. What do you people recommend ? Thanks in advance, Giancarlo -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
