[RBW] Re: 2023 Nutmeg Country Spring Fling

[Eric Marth]

I'm giving attendance some serious consideration and if I come up, I'll do 
the ATB route. 

Scott — I think the road route for the 2023 Fling is considered the bailout 
option. 

More on the routes here from the 2022 edition, which follows the same 
routes: https://ronsbikesblog.com/2022/04/03/2022-nutmeg-country-spring-fling/

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 12:00:30 PM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> I'm also considering the ATB route, not sure if I'm up for a full 50 
> miles, wondering if there are any bailouts?
>
> Scott
>
> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 10:46:25 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Awesome! Based on J's post and the fact that you're going for the ATB 
>> route, I think I'm going to switch and do that with my Hunqa (I will need 
>> to reinstall my rear rack so I can bring a saddlebag on it)
>>
>> Glad to hear that gorgeous black Sam is still bringing you joy - I love 
>> that color scheme and you can't beat a Sam...
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 8:37:01 AM UTC-6 charlie...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Max,
>>>
>>> I'm planning on making the trip down from Portsmouth, NH and will 
>>> attempt the ATB route. 
>>>
>>> Not sure if you remember, but I'm the guy who bought your Sam Hillborne 
>>> back in February 2020. Still got it and it's still awesome!
>>>
>>>
>>> Charlie 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 10:55:41 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Who's going to the 2023 Nutmeg Country Spring Fling in May?

 I've never done it but this might be the year! It seems like I might 
 actually be able to make the drive up from Boston.

 Debating which route to choose: ATB route with the fenderless Hunqa on 
 2.1" tubeless Thunderburts or Rando route with the newly appointed 
 Bombadil 
 on 2" Schwalbe Marathons and fenders?

 Details here: 
 https://ronsbikesblog.com/2023/04/11/2023-nutmeg-country-spring-fling-info-and-reg/

 Let me know if you're planning to go, I'd love to meet some folks from 
 the group in person.

 Max 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Eric Marth]

Garth, it's the whole overall look of an SA that I'm not down with. The 
badge makes it even worse. I have an older X-series saddle in black, no 
badge. I'll give it a try on the Bridgestone. 

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 9:07:29 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> That's a bummer about the IRD post, there's nothing worse than a wonky 
> post ! 
>
> Yeah, a SA saddle sounds like it would work for you Eric. I looked at 
> their saddles just now and noticed the aluminum framed versions don't have 
> a badge on the back, the name is engraved in the frame in small subtle 
> letters. Does that look better to you ?  
>

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[RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Garth. Yeah, that saddle is all the way back in the picture! 
Believe it or not. 

I appreciate the specs here on individual setbacks, awesome! I've thought 
about swapping out the saddle altogether, that's a logical workaround. I 
have a Selle Anatomica with the long rails. Very comfy but I just don't 
like the way they look! I understand that's illogical to some. And the new 
SA saddles have that huge, chintzy metallic plastic badges at the back. 

I haven't tried friction paste but I'm not trying another IRD post. When I 
had trouble I talked to both Will at Rivendell and Jim Porter at Merry 
Sales/Soma/IRD over the phone about my trouble. No issues getting it 
returned. With others having the same slippage problems I'm done fooling 
with them. 

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 8:41:47 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Just should add that the Suntour XC Pro and Superbe seatposts are so nice. 
> If you have a chance to run one I recommend it. You can adjust the clamp 
> and saddle tilt independently with two separate bolts. Requires less 
> finesse than other posts. 
>
> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 8:19:44 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Jay — Thanks for the link! Some good suggestions there. 
>>
>> Nick — Thanks for the S83 intel. I have one in my parts bin and held it 
>> up side by side and you're right! I'll check out the Kalloy, I must admit I 
>> was looking past them in my searches. 
>>
>> Liz — As always, coming through for me! Liz, you have given me the most 
>> practical, real-world help of anyone on this forum! Thanks, looks like the 
>> price makes the barrier to experimenting pretty low. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 7:05:16 AM UTC-4 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for the Kalloy Uno 602.  Nothing glamorous, but they just work! (and 
>>> they come in silver...)
>>>
>>> Liz
>>> Washington, DC
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:33:57 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can't say anything about the Thompson post, but I have both the XC Pro 
>>>> and S83, and the setback is the same on both within a millimetre or two 
>>>> (that's to the front of the saddle rail clamp, which is what determines 
>>>> how 
>>>> far back you can set the saddle).
>>>>
>>>> Some of the Kalloy UNO posts look to have a fair amount of setback, and 
>>>> come in 26.8. e.g.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.modernbike.com/kalloy-uno-602-seatpost-26.8-x-350mm-silver
>>>>
>>>> https://www.modernbike.com/kalloy-sp-359-micro-top-seatpost-26.8-x-350mm-silver
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Eric Marth]

Just should add that the Suntour XC Pro and Superbe seatposts are so nice. 
If you have a chance to run one I recommend it. You can adjust the clamp 
and saddle tilt independently with two separate bolts. Requires less 
finesse than other posts. 

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 8:19:44 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Jay — Thanks for the link! Some good suggestions there. 
>
> Nick — Thanks for the S83 intel. I have one in my parts bin and held it up 
> side by side and you're right! I'll check out the Kalloy, I must admit I 
> was looking past them in my searches. 
>
> Liz — As always, coming through for me! Liz, you have given me the most 
> practical, real-world help of anyone on this forum! Thanks, looks like the 
> price makes the barrier to experimenting pretty low. 
>
> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 7:05:16 AM UTC-4 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:
>
>> +1 for the Kalloy Uno 602.  Nothing glamorous, but they just work! (and 
>> they come in silver...)
>>
>> Liz
>> Washington, DC
>>
>> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:33:57 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> Can't say anything about the Thompson post, but I have both the XC Pro 
>>> and S83, and the setback is the same on both within a millimetre or two 
>>> (that's to the front of the saddle rail clamp, which is what determines how 
>>> far back you can set the saddle).
>>>
>>> Some of the Kalloy UNO posts look to have a fair amount of setback, and 
>>> come in 26.8. e.g.
>>>
>>> https://www.modernbike.com/kalloy-uno-602-seatpost-26.8-x-350mm-silver
>>>
>>> https://www.modernbike.com/kalloy-sp-359-micro-top-seatpost-26.8-x-350mm-silver
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Eric Marth]

Jay — Thanks for the link! Some good suggestions there. 

Nick — Thanks for the S83 intel. I have one in my parts bin and held it up 
side by side and you're right! I'll check out the Kalloy, I must admit I 
was looking past them in my searches. 

Liz — As always, coming through for me! Liz, you have given me the most 
practical, real-world help of anyone on this forum! Thanks, looks like the 
price makes the barrier to experimenting pretty low. 

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 7:05:16 AM UTC-4 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:

> +1 for the Kalloy Uno 602.  Nothing glamorous, but they just work! (and 
> they come in silver...)
>
> Liz
> Washington, DC
>
> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:33:57 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> Can't say anything about the Thompson post, but I have both the XC Pro 
>> and S83, and the setback is the same on both within a millimetre or two 
>> (that's to the front of the saddle rail clamp, which is what determines how 
>> far back you can set the saddle).
>>
>> Some of the Kalloy UNO posts look to have a fair amount of setback, and 
>> come in 26.8. e.g.
>>
>> https://www.modernbike.com/kalloy-uno-602-seatpost-26.8-x-350mm-silver
>>
>> https://www.modernbike.com/kalloy-sp-359-micro-top-seatpost-26.8-x-350mm-silver
>>
>> Nick
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[Eric Marth]

Peter — This RBW group and all posts are visible to people who are not 
members. Individuals' email addresses are hidden by Groups when posting. 
However, if a poster includes their email address in the text of their 
message it remains visible. 

In my experience iBOB and the CR groups are not visible unless you're a 
member. 

When I receive emails about items that I've listed for sale from names I 
don't recognize the first thing I do is search their email address in the 
forum. If they haven't posted or shared to the group I often ignore the 
request. 

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:48 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> Is this group readable by non-members? I know that Google Groups has 
> settings that allow an administrator to block reading to anyone who's not 
> an authorized member, or at least such settings used to exist; the Classic 
> Rendezvous group uses them. They may be a holdover from some older era of 
> group settings.
>
> There are obviously drawbacks from locking the group off from outside 
> observers, mostly that you'll get fewer new members if you don't offer a 
> free taste. But it would cut down on email harvesting.
>
> Peter "eternally vigilant, and not at all paranoid, no no no" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:20:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> Just as a PSA, I have had no prior issues with getting contacted on this 
> group so wanted to let everyone know that it can and does happen even in 
> trusted groups.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

[Eric Marth]

Takashi's spring pictures are certainly something to look forward to! 

On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 1:28:00 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Takashi, thanks for sharing the blossoms!
>
> Today I got the newly fendered Platypus out for short lunch time ride. Not 
> much budding yet here.
>
> [image: GR001_004686_trails-1800.jpg]
>
> -Dave (near Boston)
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 9:52:44 AM UTC-4 Takashi wrote:
>
>> Eric, it must have been a very pleasant time reading in that beautiful 
>> place.
>>
>> Here in Nagano, it's this brief time in a year when you can enjoy cherry 
>> blossoms and peach blossoms at the same time.
>> Some photos from today's 1-hour ride after work:
>>
>> [image: DSC02974.jpg]
>>
>> [image: DSC02979.jpg]
>>
>> [image: DSC02981.jpg]
>>
>> [image: DSC02989.jpg]
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Hi Mark — I ran the two different tires to give me some versatility on 
multi-surface rides rather than being locked in to full knobs. This is 
something I've seen on some other builds and seemed a fun way to go. My 
friend Paul runs a mix of RH knobs and slicks on his Susie. 

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 10:58:19 AM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Hey Eric,
>
> I noticed that you've got a Rene Herse knobby in front and a RH slick in 
> the rear. Can you comment on how that combo compares to running two 
> knobbies or two slicks? I'm thinking about doing the same to my "poor 
> man's" monstercross and was hoping you could provide some experiential 
> insight. Thanks,
>
> ~Mark 
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2023, at 15:16, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> LOL, thanks for the intel, Tommy, I missed this!
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:52:12 AM UTC-5 Tommy Patterson wrote:
>
> And your bike was featured in a random The Pros Closet email this morning 
>> (linking to Radavist article). The email also had links to "The best 
>> mountain bike upgrades"  "Shop presidents' day markdowns" and a rather 
>> ironic article above yours titled "How much suspension travel do you need?" 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 7:31 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
> Thanks, John! Fun to see it up there with a nice big slide show
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:58:40 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>>
>> Eric did it, his bike is featured on The Radavist...
>>>>
>>>> https://theradavist.com/erics-1985-bridgestone-mb-2-review/
>>>>
>>>> Well done Eric!
>>>>
>>>> JohnS
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 5:48:04 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Thank you, Jose :) 
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I recall Grant was fairly new at Bridgestone when the '85s 
>>>>> came out. Sometime in 2022 I read an account written by Grant about when 
>>>>> he 
>>>>> first influenced any of the bike design or specifications and when he 
>>>>> designed his first frames but I can't recall the dates or where I read 
>>>>> this. Probably in a Blahg. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 12:19:51 PM UTC-5 Jose wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Amazing build! Did Grant P design the 1985 MB-1 and MB-2? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>>>>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock 
>>>>>>> but for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the 
>>>>>>> frame 
>>>>>>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the 
>>>>>>> fork 
>>>>>>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle 
>>>>>>> boss to 
>>>>>>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>>>>>>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications 
>>>>>>> of patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> wax. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>>>>>>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>>>>>>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque 
>>>>>>> Phelan. 
>>>>>>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x 
>>>>>>> Nitto 
>>>>>>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had some custom br

[RBW] Re: FS- Rene Herse auto shifter

[Eric Marth]

PM sent

On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 6:20:04 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> [image: DDCB1B4C-6AEE-47B2-90E5-52E51822AC92.jpeg]
> For sale, Rene Herse/Nivex automatic shifter.
> Used once, set up tubeless. It’s great, but I’ve pledged to steer clear of 
> AI, so this has gotta go.
> $6 shipped, check or money order.
>
> Happy Rolling
> -Kai
>
>

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[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[Eric Marth]

It's in the thread, scroll up and look harder. It's not an article, it's a 
small sidebar. 

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 8:55:40 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Does anyone have a scan of the You Need 7 Bikes article? Need for a 
> friend. Not me, no spouse, and I'm almost there with two frame/forks 
> hanging on the wall. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 9:48:56 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> In my garage, I have:
>>
>> 1. Custom touring bike
>> 2. Rivendell Roadini
>> 3. Airborne Seeker MTB
>> 4. Co-Motion Tandem/Triplet/Quad Periscope
>> 5. Wife's Cheviot
>> 6. Wife's Santa Cruz 5010 MTB
>> 7. 11-year-old's MTB
>> 8. 7-year-old's MTB
>>
>> For many years I lived with just 1 road bike (the ti custom), but after I 
>> broke 2 of those frames, I've decided having a backup road bike (which is 
>> what the Roadini is) is not a bad idea at all --- I hated 3 months of 
>> riding the MTB around as my only single bike, though it did force me to 
>> find all the interesting off-pavement trails around here. Now the Roadini 
>> is shod with 40mm Terraspeed and gets used as a gravel bike, but if the Ti 
>> frame breaks again I can put nice wheels on it and it'll be a fast road 
>> bike/touring bike again. I will note that the Roadini probably can't be 
>> used long term as a touring bike as the long chainstays probably means 
>> packing it into a case will be a nightmare.
>> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 7:28:58 AM UTC-7 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Eric. That is it. I thought it was a longer article. i really 
>>> appreciate the effort. 
>>>
>>> I guess I need 14, since I have 6 mountain bikes on top of my 7 road and 
>>> dirt road bikes. 
>>> Not up to Mr. Lindsay, as far as curating them all to perfection, but it 
>>> is a goal. 
>>> There was also a thread a while back on listing and justifying your 
>>> bikes, but I could not find that either, but it may have been on iBob. 
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the interesting responses.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:16:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Tom — This appeared as a little blurb in Rivendell Reader No. 42 on 
 page 6 (online in the Rivendell archive here 
 ). 

 [image: Screenshot 2023-03-29 at 8.14.15 PM.png]

 On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:45:16 AM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote:

> Hi all,
> I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs 
> with justification. I think it was 7.
>  Any idea which reader it was in?
> Thanks!
> Tom Palmer
> Twin Lake, MI
>


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[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[Eric Marth]

Yeah! It took more looking than I want to admit, I was going back and forth 
between my catalog scans and my shelf of the Complete Rivendell (all 
readers, all catalogs). Worked through the Readers in reverse-chronological 
order until I found it. 

I *think* by bomber he means a stout trail bike given that none of the 
others seem to describe a trail-worthy whip. 

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:22:01 PM UTC-4 thetaper...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thanks for finding that, Eric!
>
> ...could someone educate me on the term "bomber" in this context?
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:16:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom — This appeared as a little blurb in Rivendell Reader No. 42 on 
>> page 6 (online in the Rivendell archive here 
>> ). 
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-03-29 at 8.14.15 PM.png]
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:45:16 AM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs 
>>> with justification. I think it was 7.
>>>  Any idea which reader it was in?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Tom Palmer
>>> Twin Lake, MI
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eric Marth]

This looks great, Keith! I love the subtle colors, the silver frame, the 
tans and browns. Timeless and clean. I wish the pics were bigger! 

Are those Billie bars? Been missing mine lately (still got em, just not 
installed). 

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:46:46 PM UTC-4 Keith P. wrote:

> V.1 of my new Sam Build. 
> There are many like it, but this one is mine.
> Thought you guys might get a kick out of some photos:
>
>  [image: Edit-000317890012.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890013.jpg]
> [image: Edit-000317890011.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890001.jpg] 
> [image: Edit-000317890007.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890006.jpg]
>
> Taking these, I finished off a roll that I thought was color, but wasn't, 
> so here are few B cuz they exist:
>
> [image: Edit-000209690033.jpg] [image: Edit-000209690035.jpg]
>  [image: Edit-000209690036.jpg] [image: Edit-000209690034.jpg]
>
> This bike is an absolute hoot! 
> I've been loving it.
> Thanks to so many in the owners bunch for all the inspiration and 
> information.
>
> Any Los Angeles Riv-Riders out there want to go for a spin?
> k.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[Eric Marth]

Hi Tom — This appeared as a little blurb in Rivendell Reader No. 42 on page 
6 (online in the Rivendell archive here 
). 

[image: Screenshot 2023-03-29 at 8.14.15 PM.png]

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:45:16 AM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote:

> Hi all,
> I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs with 
> justification. I think it was 7.
>  Any idea which reader it was in?
> Thanks!
> Tom Palmer
> Twin Lake, MI
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[RBW] Re: Question - when did derailleurs become "mechs"?

[Eric Marth]

I picked it up from Brits and enjoy deploying its usage!

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 6:33:52 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> I watch Europsport live cycling coverage all the time and to further the 
> "mech" term, in racing when a rider suffers a dropped chain and/or any 
> gearing issue they refer to it as "having a mechanical" a malfunction 
> of drivetrain. It happens more than ever these days. With many if not most 
> teams using electric shifting it's not something the rider has any control 
> over. If it's simply a dropped chain and not jammed they can fix that 
> themselves but if it has anything worse, or the electronics themselves they 
> have to wait for another bike. Isn't that the shit-takke ? Even tire 
> changes have become painfully slow to watch with thru axles. The mechanics 
> then must use electric screwdrivers for the bolts, or it would take forever 
> by hand. And those malfunction too. Battery operated crap ! It's faster to 
> take another bike. Then again, I don't watch these races for the bikes, I 
> frankly never really notice them lest when the frame focuses on some 
> failure. I like the pictures, the scenery, the people along side the road. 
> Even in rural places, the locals show up just give the riders a hand of 
> support. Cycling racing is really effing hard. You'll never see that in 
> Umerika. Umerikan culture in may ways is just weird, just effing weird. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 9:13:30 PM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> It's an English term for derailleurs that's been around for decades. I 
>> can remember seeing it in English cycling magazines in the 1970s when I 
>> first became interested in cycling.
>>
>> Nick Payne
>>
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Re: [RBW] PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[Eric Marth]

Jah, nice shop and reputable sellers. You can buy direct, they're also on 
eBay. Good source for vintage parts. 

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 1:19:18 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> They’re very active on IG, responsive and seem legit. 
>
> Gringineer Cycles (@gringineercycles) • Instagram photos and videos 
> 
> instagram.com 
> [image: 329290316_561187429146646_4030130879174494817_n.jpg] 
>  
> 
>
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2023, at 09:52, maxcr  wrote:
>
> I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site - thought 
> you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/
>
>
> I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including NOS 
> Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.
>
> Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an 
> appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a 
> silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsive
>
> Anyone from the area know them?
>
> Max
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

[Eric Marth]

Huge thanks to Philip for sharing all the images over on Insta, I got the 
virtual tour I was dying for!

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:34:08 PM UTC-4 Evan E. wrote:

> Keith H. asked about the orange Rambouillet that is missing paint. Will of 
> Rivendell told me that the chainstay bridge and the seatstay bridges were 
> moved farther from the rear dropout to enable larger tires to fit. “I think 
> this frame will take 45s now,” he said. He didn’t say why the top tube and 
> downtube and head tube are now bare steel, and I didn’t think to ask. We 
> both just stood there and admired the frame. 
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 1:16:04 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Id like to know the story on the orange Rambouillet that is all 
>> stripped.  I love to remember that lugged frames can almost always be be 
>> repaired.  
>>
>> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 2:12:20 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm always bummed to miss these, but those buds on the trees and bike 
>>> rack full of shopper's bikes are especially painful this year.  All that 
>>> rain that CA has been getting translates to snow here.  It'll be months 
>>> before I could enjoy something like that.
>>> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 1:42:57 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Still bummed to have missed this.
 I bet my Tosco bar was sad to miss me!

 Nice Hardrock I see!

 On Mar 25, 2023, at 10:52, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:

 

 Is that custom paint, or was there an orange Atlantis at some point?

 Doug

 On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 10:08 AM Keith Paugh  
 wrote:

> Did you achieve #7?
>
> (Beautiful Atlantis )
>
> k.
>
> On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Matthew Williams  
> wrote:
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[RBW] Re: 1985 Bridgestone MB-3 build and video

[Eric Marth]

Keith: Thanks a bunch!

Paul: Replacement fork sourcing seems to be a fine art perhaps best left to 
antiquarians and archivists! It is indeed fun to work on an old frame, 
install some contemporary parts and get to something practical and 
appealing. Enjoy your ride!

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 11:36:56 AM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> Eric, another nicely done build!
>
> Thank you for sharing these projects.
> You really excel on your video documenting of them.
>
> I'm sure the friend appreciates all the work and attention to detail you 
> out into it.
>
> I agree on the vintage Suntour power shifters.
> They are terrific!
>
> It can be a challenge finding the right replacement fork for some of these 
> vintage bike builds.
>
> I'm still looking for the right one for my Austro Daimler Puch Vent Noir 
> II.
>
> Last week I built up an early 80"s Univega Gran Premio from the bare frame 
> that came with a non original fork. That included fork turned out to be a 
> narrow .833. I wish the eBay seller had mentioned that.
>
> It turned out I had a suitable fork 
> (of course wrong color) in the parts stash. 
> For now I stripped that fork to bare finish.
>
> I really enjoy your builds of these vintage bikes.
>
> I enjoy the process as well but I must rein it in.
> I counted 11 rideable bikes in my very crowded garage. Most of them are 
> from the 80s.
> (Not to mention 5 or 6 frames I must decide what to do with )
>
> I hope to get in a nice ride on one of them today.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the pics, Matthew. 

I want to see more of what was for sale! Piles, treasures, oddities, wool! 

On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 1:52:18 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Is that custom paint, or was there an orange Atlantis at some point?
>
> Doug
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 10:08 AM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>
>> Did you achieve #7?
>>
>> (Beautiful Atlantis )
>>
>> k.
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Matthew Williams  
>> wrote:
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto dirt drop stem, 26.0 x 8cm or 10cm

[Eric Marth]

I think I've got this covered, thanks for all the replies. 

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 2:50:31 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hello friends — I'm looking for a used Nitto dirt drop stem with a 26.0 
> clamp and either 8cm or 10cm extension. 
>
> Please let me know if you have one you'd part with me and ship to 22401. 
> Direct email is best, sometimes thread replies get lost. 
>
> Thank you :) 
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

[Eric Marth]

Brendan — Since one's a racer/half-basket I think that throws off your 
calculus. How exactly, I can't be sure. 

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:21:35 PM UTC-4 Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> I'll be there.  I set the Sam to carry home mode.  If I mount a 137 and a 
> 139, do I have a Wald 276?
>
> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:20:53 PM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_4695.JPG]
>>
>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:20:23 PM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be there.  I set the Sam to carry home mode.  If I mount a 137 and 
>>> a 139, do I have a Wald 376?
>>
>>
>>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:18:54 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm going to use my usual get-to-WC method:

 1) wake, dress, coffee+carbs+insulin

 2) ride the four miles uphill from West Berkeley to Rockridge BART on 
 my Trek 720 (I'm barely a mile from North Berkeley and Berkeley BART 
 stations, but they're on a different line. I'd have to go to MacArthur to 
 change trains, and backtracking ticks me off. Rockridge is the last stop 
 on 
 the Diablo Valley line before you cross the hills)

 3) ride to Walnut Creek BART, about 2 blocks from RBWHQ

 Figure about 1 hour travel time, assuming that BART isn't cancelling 
 alternate trains the way they've done every other time I've gone to Walnut 
 Creek this year.

 Fortunately, they're starting at 10AM, instead of the 8 or 9AM that 
 used to be the start time. I might actually get out the door at a 
 reasonable hour and get there on time, to see if the NDS TA Criterium 
 crankarm (which Joe Bunik said had gone AWOL somewhere about ten years 
 ago, 
 when I bought the DS arm) has finally resurfaced.

 Peter "if I've only got panniers, that caps what I can buy and carry 
 off" Adler
 Berkeley, CA/USA

 On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-7 Greg J wrote:

 I'm planning to ride over on my A/R, if anyone wants to join me.



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[RBW] WTB: Nitto dirt drop stem, 26.0 x 8cm or 10cm

[Eric Marth]

Hello friends — I'm looking for a used Nitto dirt drop stem with a 26.0 
clamp and either 8cm or 10cm extension. 

Please let me know if you have one you'd part with me and ship to 22401. 
Direct email is best, sometimes thread replies get lost. 

Thank you :) 

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

[Eric Marth]

I love a good garage sale, hope y'all have fun!

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 2:05:37 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Yep! I’ll be there.
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2023, at 11:04 AM, Paul Choi  wrote:
>
> I'm planning on going to garage sale on Saturday. Is anyone else here 
> planning on going?
> Hope to see some of the locals there. 
>
> Cheers, 
>
> Paul in Santa Clara
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Re: [RBW] FD question

[Eric Marth]

Hi Scott — I haven't run this combo but I think it will work. The seat 
tubes on your Sam should be 28.6. 

Older, svelte road front derailers without ramps typically work well with 
wide range doubles. 

Jan, for a time at least, ran a Sachs-Huret front derailer on his mule with 
a 44/28. The design is very similar to the Jubilee. 

What are you running for a derailer out back to match the refined beauty of 
the Jubilee? 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:27:33 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> My Alex Singer has 48/32 chainrings, and a Jubilee front derailleur works 
> just fine.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:23 AM, greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
>
> Considering sourcing a Huret Jubilee Front Derailleur for my Sam.
>
> Currently, I have Sugino XD2 Bash guard / 40 / 24 and a Jim 11/36 7-speed 
> cassette. The FD is a newer Shimano, not sure which model. The Shimano 
> tends to drop the chain when shifting from the 40 to the 24. I've been 
> hearing good things regarding the Jubilee for a wide double, so thought I'd 
> give one a go. The diameter is 28.6, would anyone happen to know the outer 
> diameter of the seat tube on a Sam? Also, does anyone have experience using 
> a Jubilee with a wide double? I know there's a lot of trial and error in 
> getting things just right, but doesn't hurt to pull from shared experiences.
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
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[RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

[Eric Marth]

Nice, Ted, thanks for kicking off our Spring thread!

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 6:03:05 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> Ok, it's spring astronomically, but in Wisconsin not so much so 
> meteorologically. So, first sort of spring ride for me today, 45 miles or 
> so up the lake and back the river. Chilly northeast wind off the lake, 
> mostly a tailwind coming home at least. Looking forward to warmer temps and 
> seeing some signs of green some day.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
> [image: IMG_1102.jpeg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

[Eric Marth]

Today's the day, Ted. My March 19 ride was my last of winter! 

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:01:37 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

>
> On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:35 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Clear, sunny, temps didn't crack 40º and there were some treacherous 
> headwinds along the way. 
>
>
> That sounds familiar.  :-(
>
> Ok, time to start a Spring Ride Fotos 2023 thread!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Bridgestone MB-2 Wigsplitter

[Eric Marth]

A bump for the weekend, in case anyone missed my notice. 

Many thanks

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 4:29:58 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> More pictures here: 
> https://theradavist.com/erics-1985-bridgestone-mb-2-review
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 4:29:15 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Bridgestone MB-2 Wigsplitter
>>
>> 1985, 21" frame
>>
>> $2,850
>>
>>
>> [image: MB-2-230115-L-00-Complete-scaled.jpg]
>>
>>
>> Hi all — I recently finished up this build and I have to be honest with 
>> myself that it's just too small for me. Which is a crying shame because it 
>> is quite a sick build. 
>>
>>
>> As seen on the Radavist, build video over on YouTube. More pictures and 
>> intel available. Careful selection of vintage parts, custom patinated 
>> frame, weathered brass bits and de-anodized and polished parts as well. 
>>
>>
>> Standover is 80cm or roughly 31-1/2". My saddle height at 76cm leaves me 
>> with just enough seatpost bearing to be safe and bars maxed out on a Tallux 
>> are still 1"+ below the saddle. Seems a 68cm — 72cm saddle height would be 
>> the ticket. 
>>
>>
>> For sale as built. Might have to swap out the FD because it was my mother 
>> in law's and I want to keep it. Replacement will be Suntour. 
>>
>>
>> Local sale preferred, I'm in Virginia about an hour north of Crust. 
>>
>>
>> Please email me with inquiries off-list.
>>
>>
>> Frame mods: 
>>
>> • Rear spacing adjusted to 135mm
>>
>> • Original top tube cable guides removed, new installed
>>
>> • Original bottom bracket cable guides removed, new Shimano installed
>>
>> • Hourglass rack mounts installed at fork 3mm below canti bosses
>>
>> • Hourglass rack mounts installed on seat stays 3mm below canti bosses
>>
>> • Additional bottle boss installed on down tube for triple-mount
>>
>> • Additional bottle bosses added on underside of downtube (can carry 
>> three bottles)
>>
>> • Pump peg added to seat tube 
>>
>> • Seatpost reamed
>>
>>
>> Frame finish: 
>>
>> • Stripped to raw steel 
>>
>> • Cleaned, degreased
>>
>> • Patinated with two coats of patina acid, cold and hot
>>
>> • Frame clear-coated with satin lacquer
>>
>> • Frame coated with Renaissance Wax
>>
>> • Interior of frame treated with Frame Saver
>>
>>
>> Build list
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>>
>> • Rene Herse Humptulips Ridge 26" x 2.3", extra light
>>
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 26" x 2.3", extra light
>>
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>>
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>>
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>>
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>>
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>>
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white with amber shellac
>>
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>>
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>>
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>>
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>>
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>>
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>>
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>>
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>>
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>>
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>>
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>>
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>>
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>>
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>>
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>>
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>>
>> • Suntour seat post clamp
>>
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>>
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>>
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>>
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>>
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi brass spoke nipples 
>>
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>>
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> • Blue Lug KOMA rear light, silver
>>
>> • Zefal HPX frame pump, vintage, raw aluminum 
>>
>> • I'm sure I'm forgetting something else
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] MARK'S RAKC'S ARE BACK YOU GYY'S

[Eric Marth]

https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-marks-rack-m1-20108?variant=23336747969

Get one! There are 32 in stock right now. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillibikers - do you stand and pedal?

[Eric Marth]

Hi Mackenzy — I find it uncomfortable to pedal out of the saddle for more 
than a few strokes with my hands in the primary grip position on swept back 
bars. With a grip in the 'hooks' of the bars on Albatross, Billie or Ron's 
Ortho bars it's no problem for me. I've installed Boscos on a bike I built 
up for a friend and found that the secondary or hooks position ahead of the 
levers was not very good for climbing or spirited riding. 

I would think given the height of your bars, the tilt of your bars making 
the grip almost parallel with the ground and the general shape of Boscos 
that climbing out of the saddle would be uncomfortable and a little 
unnatural. 

I see you have your stem pretty low, do you wish for lower bars? If so you 
might consider the Losco or the Billie, they're both plenty wide with lots 
of sweep back but much less rise. 
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:08:56 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Hey Damon - It's a Nitto UI-12 quill stem. This is a welded cromo, -19 
> deg, 31.8 clamp, removeable faceplate stem. Not quite as nice and 
> definitely not as tall as the brazed Nitto faceplate stems (CR60-3F) that 
> Riv stocks, but my fit didn't need the extra height and I liked the look 
> and reach of a horizontal stem extension.
>
> I've attached a closeup photo of the stem and bars (taken during the 
> build, before the shifters were cabled). Note the stem height is just about 
> max'd where I have it and many will want something with more rise.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> I have not felt comfortable standing on the pedals in many years. I sit 
>> and spin regardless of the type of bike. On a single speed, I will dismount 
>> and walk when the slope is too steep - not often the case in Florida.
>>
>> I seem to remember a top cyclist from years ago advocating for sitting 
>> and spinning, but I cannot remember who it was.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 2023 March 1 Bikes for sale thread: Craigslist etc.

[Eric Marth]

LOL came here 2 post this, tipped off by Luke who has already commented my 
world is a closed circle 

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 11:35:04 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Killed me to see that, but his Bomba is so  that it makes sense to move 
> this one along. I only wish that I were in the market… A Hunq has been a 
> dream of mine, second only to an Atlantis. 
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 6:20:19 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Saw on Instagram that John Prolly from the Radavist is selling his 
>> Hunq[image: 
>> Screenshot_20230309-091723.png]
>>
>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:58:01 PM UTC-5 mitchel...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> 51cm Appaloosa Frameset
>>> Los Angeles ,CA
>>> $1,500
>>>
>>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/santa-monica-rivendell-appaloosa-51cm/7595081671.html
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 7:44:16 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
 Such a dreamy build…

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 7:23:03 PM UTC-8 Matthew P wrote:

> Starting with this Legolas in Portland that I've thought about buying 
> myself:
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7591649041.html
>
> Full build details are available here:
>
> https://quicklywilliam.notion.site/Rivendell-Legolas-93889153504547b79fba9a124170c60d
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Front Derailleur Suggestions

[Eric Marth]

I'm not a mechanic or an expert. But I've set up two compact doubles in the 
past year:

   - On my Hillborne: A SunXCD 42/24 with a Suntour Cyclone (Mark I)
   - On my MB-2: A TA Specialities 42/28 with a Suntour AR

In both instances I had to run the derailer a lot higher than I thought I 
should to get the jump. It looked so wrong I almost abandoned the crank. 
But then I looked closely at other compact doubles and found FDs run higher 
than conventional wisdom dictates. The same was true when setting up an SR 
mixte, had to run the FD pretty high to miss the chainstay but it shifts 
fine. 

Your mileage may vary. 
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:32:18 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:

> Picked up a used CX70. Initial installation and quick ride is promising. 
> Slight rub on little ring, large in rear, but I don't think I've ever used 
> that combination. Thanks all for your thoughts. (mostly wanted to update in 
> case anyone else has issues.) TL:DR Triple bad, double good.
>
> [image: IMG_2415 Large.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 7:50:02 AM UTC-6 Bill Schairer wrote:
>
>> I agree with Garth and Andy.  I've got an old Campy shifting a 50/45/26, 
>> a Suntour AR or Vx (I can't remember which) shifting 42/34/19 on my 
>> Atlantis, and whichever isn't on the Atlantis is on my Trek shifting 
>> 45/42/24.  I've also used Cyclones.  It often takes a bunch of fiddling and 
>> trial and error - I've had derailleurs work well on one bike but not 
>> another so, as Garth said, having a choice of several on hand and doing 
>> one's own work is the best way to go.  The old derailleurs are elegant, 
>> light, plentiful, cheap, and they just work.  I picked one of the Suntours 
>> up for free from a bike shop parts bin, all it needed was a cable clamping 
>> screw.
>>
>> Bill S
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 2:47:13 AM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> Shaped inner plates hate wide chainring choices, they're made for 
>>> corporate combinations to assure legal counsel of perfect shifting with 
>>> their derailleurs, shifters cassette combos and other spec. What I found 
>>> when building up my wide double (46/30) rando with RH cranks was that with 
>>> all the new FDs to try, my mechanic found the SunTour Superbe from my bag 
>>> of nearly NOS FD options fit and worked the best. Plus it doesn't try to 
>>> hide that it is made of metal, it is bright silver.
>>>
>>> A couple shots in album form:
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/eSqnCSt3WxrtfmkCA
>>>
>>> Tail of the cage not hitting the right chain stay, limiting how close to 
>>> the 46t ring it could be, chain line when on on the 30t not below the 
>>> intended interface of an origami inner plate sculpted for a very narrow 
>>> range of OEM chainring size combinations and a width of parallel cage 
>>> plates that permits operation across several cogs before trimming is 
>>> necessary. I'm quite happy with it.
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 12:45:08 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've been having a heckuva time getting my front derailleur to go from 
 little to big without hopping over. Eventually, if I talked sweetly to it 
 and said Hail Mary three times, it would usually settle. Even took it to 
 an 
 experience mechanic. He also lowered it, then slowly kept raising it up, 
 and also kept working the limit screw. A fraction of a turn was difference 
 between not reaching the big ring, or going over!

 It's a White Industries VBC with 46-28. FD is IRD compact triple 
 Aplina. Friction Microshift thumbie. I think it's bottom pull. 

 [image: IMG_2391 Medium.jpeg]

 Any suggestions for different FD? May need different chain rings 
 because of that big jump, but if I do that, I may be best off buying 
 something else and selling these.

 Thanks,
 Matt

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Long ride on a Sam Hillborne

[Eric Marth]

Congrats, Paul, that's a nice ride! 

Thanks for the pics!

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 8:25:29 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
>
>
>
> This picture gives some perspective on the fantastic Elephant mural.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

[Eric Marth]

Nice Romulus! We don't see many of those, though I know they're out there. 

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 3:38:24 PM UTC-5 marcusg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Cold morning commutes in Seoul with my canti Romulus.
> [image: 20230130_065636.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:59:06 AM UTC+9 Takashi wrote:
>
>> Paul Germain,
>> Oops, I meant to ask Paul in Dallas about the silver bike. Sorry that my 
>> question wasn't clear enough.
>> When I first looked at your photo with an airplane, I didn't look closely 
>> and thought that it was Riv. That orange color is Riv-ish.
>> Now looking closely this Oswald is also a very beautiful bike!
>>
>> I'm glad that people are posting winter ride photos more than I expected. 
>> It's great to know that many people are enjoying riding in winter!
>>
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>
>> 2023年2月27日月曜日 23:42:36 UTC+9 Bikie#4646:
>>
>> [image: IMG_5478.jpeg]
>> Dear Takashi,
>> If you are referring to the bike in front of the jet plane, I sneaked a 
>> non-Riv bike into the discussion, unintentiallly. I do have two bikes by 
>> Rivendell, but on this particular day, I was riding my Sport Tourer made 
>> Tom Oswald in Mansfield, Massachusetts. He runs a bike shop in a small 
>> college town and completes a small number of frames each year, mostly for 
>> fun. All the lugs are modified and carved beautifully but the monochrome 
>> paint job leads an understated effect. The entire bike was built without 
>> power tools, another thing which gives him more satisfaction I believe. It 
>> is not stainless but Dedacciai tubing with Kirk Pancenti lugs. When I first 
>> saw this bike, it was on display at a NAHBS (North American Handbill Bike 
>> Show).
>> At the time of this ride, 2016, I had installed Honjo fenders.
>> Did you know when you started this thread, would you have guessed it 
>> would span the entire winter?
>> Enjoy the coming Spring!
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 7:40:02 AM UTC-5 Takashi wrote:
>>
>> Paul, I know very little about "old" bikes, and I've never known about 
>> Austro Daimler bikes. Yours looks like a very meticulous made beautiful 
>> frame. Is it made of stainless?
>> Also, your friend's Homer looks very cool & clean.
>>
>> Dave, love that mirror-like pond; it's as if you see sky both over your 
>> head and underneath you.
>>
>> Luke, that looks like an "easier" ride compared to photos in your 
>> previous posts. SF area seems to be a great place with various terrains.
>>
>> Stephanie, Grant would no doubt approve your use of the bike. Those blue 
>> Sackvilles make mere grocery rides joyous, don't they?
>>
>> Russel, I agree with Rich that your bike looks great. Now I'm thinking 
>> about which of my bike I should use green bartapes and yellow cables...
>>
>> Eric, so there are two airfields nearby? I seldom have chance to look at 
>> airplanes up close, that must be fun.
>>
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Bridgestone MB-2 Wigsplitter

[Eric Marth]

More pictures 
here: https://theradavist.com/erics-1985-bridgestone-mb-2-review

Thanks again!

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 4:29:15 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Bridgestone MB-2 Wigsplitter
>
> 1985, 21" frame
>
> $2,850
>
>
> [image: MB-2-230115-L-00-Complete-scaled.jpg]
>
>
> Hi all — I recently finished up this build and I have to be honest with 
> myself that it's just too small for me. Which is a crying shame because it 
> is quite a sick build. 
>
>
> As seen on the Radavist, build video over on YouTube. More pictures and 
> intel available. Careful selection of vintage parts, custom patinated 
> frame, weathered brass bits and de-anodized and polished parts as well. 
>
>
> Standover is 80cm or roughly 31-1/2". My saddle height at 76cm leaves me 
> with just enough seatpost bearing to be safe and bars maxed out on a Tallux 
> are still 1"+ below the saddle. Seems a 68cm — 72cm saddle height would be 
> the ticket. 
>
>
> For sale as built. Might have to swap out the FD because it was my mother 
> in law's and I want to keep it. Replacement will be Suntour. 
>
>
> Local sale preferred, I'm in Virginia about an hour north of Crust. 
>
>
> Please email me with inquiries off-list.
>
>
> Frame mods: 
>
> • Rear spacing adjusted to 135mm
>
> • Original top tube cable guides removed, new installed
>
> • Original bottom bracket cable guides removed, new Shimano installed
>
> • Hourglass rack mounts installed at fork 3mm below canti bosses
>
> • Hourglass rack mounts installed on seat stays 3mm below canti bosses
>
> • Additional bottle boss installed on down tube for triple-mount
>
> • Additional bottle bosses added on underside of downtube (can carry three 
> bottles)
>
> • Pump peg added to seat tube 
>
> • Seatpost reamed
>
>
> Frame finish: 
>
> • Stripped to raw steel 
>
> • Cleaned, degreased
>
> • Patinated with two coats of patina acid, cold and hot
>
> • Frame clear-coated with satin lacquer
>
> • Frame coated with Renaissance Wax
>
> • Interior of frame treated with Frame Saver
>
>
> Build list
>
> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>
> • Rene Herse Humptulips Ridge 26" x 2.3", extra light
>
> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 26" x 2.3", extra light
>
> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>
> • Kasai 32H front hub
>
> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>
> • Busch + Müller light mount
>
> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>
> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white with amber shellac
>
> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>
> • Suntour Superbe levers
>
> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>
> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>
> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>
> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>
> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>
> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>
> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>
> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>
> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>
> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>
> • MKS XC-III pedals
>
> • Suntour AR front derailer
>
> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>
> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>
> • Suntour seat post clamp
>
> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>
> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>
> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>
> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>
> • Sim Works x Hoshi brass spoke nipples 
>
> • M5 brass socket head screws
>
> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>
> • Blue Lug KOMA rear light, silver
>
> • Zefal HPX frame pump, vintage, raw aluminum 
>
> • I'm sure I'm forgetting something else
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

[Eric Marth]

Hi Paul — I think the photo you posted is a different location, but also 
familiar and a stone's throw from my office :) 

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 3:46:13 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Hey Eric, I recognize that place from a bike trip in 2016! Cool backdrop! 
> Fast and less fast.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/24067030171/in/album-72157662986712831/
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 11:48:05 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Definitely all balm'd up over here in Virginia. In the 80s on Thursday, 
>> high 50s on Friday. Cold this weekend which I was actually grateful for 
>> because it's just been too weirdly warm. Cold on my ride this morning but 
>> evidently warming to 60 and sunny this afternoon. 
>>
>> Here's one from Friday and a stop at the local airfield. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_5332.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 2:29:30 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Russell,
>>>
>>> I'm sure you enjoyed the "balmy" temperature for your winter ride on 
>>> Monday. From one Mercian owner to another, your Vincitore looks terrific! 
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:20 AM Russell Duncan  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: EFC94039-C235-4980-938B-C4C68D0CF0F9.jpeg]
 Out ‘n about here with no snow to speak of in the Connecticut River 
 Valley of western Massachusetts, where it was 57 degrees on Monday, George 
 Washington’s Birthday, with maple syrup flowing. I don’t yet own a 
 Rivendell but I’ve got a few British bikes that probably ride that way, 
 like my 1996 Mercian Vincitore. 

 Russell Duncan
 Western Massachusetts USA 


 On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 9:40:10 AM UTC-5 Stephanie A. wrote:

> No snow, no trees even, but this is what loading up on groceries 
> before the cold snap in the northeast a couple of weeks ago looked 
> like:[image: 
> D4FE0A86-0253-4B41-A999-5D1A808662AE.jpeg]
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 1:50:44 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: D9539EDE-D92A-487B-BC9A-5F3B2DEA0A5A.jpeg][image: 
>> 8E16EAF3-1E44-4606-B6F3-B482DA61E183.jpeg]
>>
>> Luke in SF
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 12:17:17 PM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> Like Takashi, we've had a warm spell here and all my February rides 
>>> have been spring like.
>>>
>>> Here's the Platypus out a few days ago:
>>> [image: PXL_20230218_210402353-1800.jpg]
>>>
>>> And from yesterday, my doublespeed Volpe that is recently sporting 
>>> Albatross bars:
>>> [image: PXL_20230220_181318011-1800.jpg]
>>>
>>> Today we are back to winter as we got some snow overnight and have 
>>> colder temps in the forecast for the next week or so.
>>>
>>> -Dave (near Boston)
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:26:13 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas 
>>> wrote:
>>>




 Well, it's officially still winter here in Dallas,TX. although 
 yesterday I met up with a friend at White Rock Lake in mid-70's breezy 
 temps and enjoyed a ride.

 I'm on my 1981 Austro Daimler Puch Vent Noir II and he's on his 
 about 3 year old Homer Hilson.

 It was a good day to be out and about.

 Paul in Dallas 

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the links, Gino. 

Here in 2023 I think we'd all be down for a Bombadil at $1,600 for the 
frame and fork. 

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 11:17:41 PM UTC-5 Gino Zahnd wrote:

> In 2008 I rode the Bomba prototype for a few weeks. Here are my photos 
> from then:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/albums/72157607024143730
>
> And my review of it in 2008:
>
> https://chicogino.blogspot.com/2008/05/rivendell-bombadil-my-two-week-fling.html
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 8:16:08 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It seems the Bombadil and Hunqapillar frames are beloved. They're stout, 
>> beautiful, and sometimes have intricate additional tubes and lugs. While 
>> I've done a lot of reading about Rivendell I was a bit unclear on the 
>> origins and intended uses of these frames. 
>>
>> I wanted to start a thread where we could share and dump info about these 
>> bikes along with pictures of builds. 
>>
>> Joe and Jim were helpful in laying out a bit of background in another 
>> thread 
>> , 
>> there's 
>> some great info there. 
>>
>> The original Hunqapillar catalog is up here: 
>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Hunqapillar.pdf
>>
>> The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, sometime in 
>> 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members might recall I am very 
>> into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I know that many 
>> Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like Jason Fuller, whose 
>> absolute stunner shows up here from time to time. By the way, the picture 
>> below is one of my very favorite Rivendell images. 
>>
>> [image: Jason Bombadil green.jpg]
>>
>> There's also the butter-banana Bombadil that recently sold on eBay. I 
>> believe that one was purchased by John Watson of the Radavist (and he's got 
>> a Hunq) so we might see some nice pics of that bike sometime soon. 
>>
>> [image: s-l1600-2.jpg]
>>
>> And speaking of, here's John's Hunqapillar, more images and write-up here 
>> .
>>
>> [image: Johns-Rivendell-Hunqapillar-29er-Klunker-76.jpg] 
>>
>> Are both of these frame names borrowing from Tolkien? I understand RBW 
>> had to stop using Tolkien names. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Exploration: Make your own pump peg

[Eric Marth]

Nice, Kim! Fun to iterate the mods.

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 12:05:04 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> The first image is my recent results. The second image is my first idea.
>
> Kim. 
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:03:37 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>
>> This evening I modified my existing frame pump bracket to something more 
>> secure using a AFA umbrella frame pump holder and a metal screw-able band. 
>> I used a cordless drill and a Dremmel power tool for cutting, sanding and 
>> polishing the AFA umbrella frame pump holder.
>>
>> It turned out well. I am happy with the results.
>>
>> The first photo is my first idea. The second photo is my recent results.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 12:44:45 PM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I started with a large rack strut from VO (thick stainless steel), 
>>> straightened out the 90 deg bend a little, added my own 90 deg bend, 
>>> drilled out the hole in the end, ground the end near the enlarged hole and 
>>> put a 90+ deg twist in the end. Then added a water bottle cage bolt with 
>>> Nitto spacer and nylock nut. Still doing small tweaks to perfect the fit 
>>> between the seat stays:
>>>
>>> [image: Peg.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: Pump s.jpg]
>>>
>>> Laing 
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

LOL, thanks for the intel, Tommy, I missed this!

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:52:12 AM UTC-5 Tommy Patterson wrote:

> And your bike was featured in a random The Pros Closet email this morning 
> (linking to Radavist article). The email also had links to "The best 
> mountain bike upgrades"  "Shop presidents' day markdowns" and a rather 
> ironic article above yours titled "How much suspension travel do you need?" 
>
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 7:31 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, John! Fun to see it up there with a nice big slide show
>>
>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:58:40 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Eric did it, his bike is featured on The Radavist...
>>>
>>> https://theradavist.com/erics-1985-bridgestone-mb-2-review/
>>>
>>> Well done Eric!
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 5:48:04 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you, Jose :) 
>>>>
>>>> From what I recall Grant was fairly new at Bridgestone when the '85s 
>>>> came out. Sometime in 2022 I read an account written by Grant about when 
>>>> he 
>>>> first influenced any of the bike design or specifications and when he 
>>>> designed his first frames but I can't recall the dates or where I read 
>>>> this. Probably in a Blahg. 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 12:19:51 PM UTC-5 Jose wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Amazing build! Did Grant P design the 1985 MB-1 and MB-2? 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>>>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
>>>>>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
>>>>>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the 
>>>>>> fork 
>>>>>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>>>>>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications 
>>>>>> of patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> wax. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>>>>>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>>>>>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque 
>>>>>> Phelan. 
>>>>>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x 
>>>>>> Nitto 
>>>>>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>>>>>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an 
>>>>>> XTR M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by 
>>>>>> Andre 
>>>>>> at my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a 
>>>>>> Rat 
>>>>>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>>>>>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheel

Re: [RBW] Custom frame bag for Gus

[Eric Marth]

Nice Brian!

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:

> Great looking bag and smart!
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 7:15 AM Brian Turner  wrote:
>
>> Photos here:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>>
>> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having 
>> a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I 
>> guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much 
>> usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>>
>> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in 
>> the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he 
>> enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out 
>> the photos!
>>
>> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping for. 
>> I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare tube, 
>> puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a little 
>> room to spare.
>>
>> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
>> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>>
>> -Brian
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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: The Cabo Loop, BSC

[Eric Marth]

Excellent pictures and reporting, John, thanks for sharing! 

I checked out your link for some pics of your rigs, many more great photos 
in there!

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 3:14:03 AM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> John, very niceride report, as always.  i have visited La Ribera a few 
> times and thought the sand roads would need a big fat tire. Steve
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 12:42 AM John Rinker  wrote:
>
>> A friend and I recently hung up our skis here in BC for a few weeks and 
>> headed south to Baja Sur to ride the Cape (Cabo) Loop that completes the 
>> popular Baja Divide route. The loop is roughly 450km and takes in the 
>> Pacific Ocean, the* Sierra La Lagunas*, and beautiful beaches along the 
>> Sea of Cortez. The landscape in both the mountains and along the coasts is 
>> a rich and diverse desert ecosystem. In addition to a variety of birds, we 
>> saw tons (literally) of humpback whales and mobula rays along the eastern 
>> coastline. The route is somewhat challenging with some stiff climbing, 
>> tire-sucking sand, and a few technical rock-dancing sections. Mostly, it’s 
>> a stunner ride that offers warm weather mid-Winter and wild camping in 
>> beautiful spots both in the mountains and on relatively empty beaches. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_0243.jpeg]
>>
>> Shortly after landing in San Jose del Cabo, we put our bikes together and 
>> headed toward the Baja brewery in the Old Town to carbo load with Peyote 
>> IPAs and* tacos de pescado* for our departure the following morning. We 
>> chose to complete the loop in a clockwise manner as, after the busy-ness of 
>> San Jose, we were itching for the solitude of the mountains. Climbing into 
>> the *Sierra La Lagunas*, we were pleasantly surprised by the prevalence 
>> of running water in many of the arroyos (Feb 2023). At the height of land, 
>> we camped in a clearing under a mature Mexican white oak surrounded by 
>> organ pipe cactus and Torchwood trees. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_0250.jpeg]
>>
>> Our ride down the other side the next morning was a fast descent through 
>> sandy curves as we headed towards *Todos Santos* and the Pacific Coast. 
>> Again, there was plenty of water flowing through this verdant, desert 
>> landscape. *Todos Santos* is a historical Mexican town fast on its way 
>> to becoming a gentrified destination for North Americans seeking…well, 
>> something other than America north of the Mexican border. North of town on 
>> the Playa Los Mangos, we camped in the deserted dunes as the Pacific Ocean 
>> was anything but. Thunderous waves battered the shoreline throughout the 
>> night. The morning light gave us our first glimpse of the migrating whales 
>> and the squadrons of pelicans gliding centimeters about the rolling, blue 
>> sea. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_0217.jpeg]
>>
>> After a brief stop in a bustling *Todos Santos* we were headed back into 
>> the quiet of the mountains for some very challenging riding in and out of 
>> arroyos. Sections of deep sand had me pushing my Hunq with her ill-advised, 
>> less-than-3-inch tires (highly discouraged by the bike packing community, 
>> but just fine by me). The climbs out of the arroyos were as steep and rocky 
>> as the descents into them, and the surrounding desert pulsed with the life 
>> of such a variety of plants and cacti. The landscape here seemed as full as 
>> the thick forests back home in BC, albeit with more pokey things.
>>
>>
>> After camping at an abandoned rancho that night, we set our sights on 
>> arriving at the mountain hamlet of *El Triunfo*, an old silver-mining 
>> town, for a well-earned meal. Ochre ribbons of flow-y hard pack eventually 
>> dropped us onto the highway and a gentle climb to town. Carlota’s, a family 
>> restaurant just out the other side of town, delivered a delightful meal. 
>> After fresh orange juice and even fresher tortillas, we were ready and 
>> fuelled for a cruise along the highway before our turn back into the 
>> mountains at *San Blas*. That evening we pushed our bikes off the road, 
>> through the forest of cacti, mesquite, and torchwood, and camped among 
>> piles of granite boulders- wild camping at its finest. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_0354.jpeg]
>>
>> Another morning of climbing in and out of arroyos on fine hard pack 
>> brought us to the mountain’s crest where we caught our first glimpse of the 
>> Sea of Cortez. A quick descent, a right turn and we were flying down the 
>> highway towards La Ventana. We rode through the town unable to see the sea 
>> past the dust, cars, and development until we reached the more remote beach 
>> of *Agua Caliente* where we soaked in natural hot pools on the rocky 
>> beach. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_0250 2.jpeg]
>>
>> The next morning, we rode a beautiful and extensive single-track trail 
>> system through a forest of *Cardon* (Elephant) cacti on our way to the 
>> wide expanse of undeveloped beaches southeast of La Ventana. After a fine 
>> swim in the clear, jade waters in Bahia La Ventana, we 

[RBW] Re: Signing up for Scary Things: Intro to Bike Mechanics

[Eric Marth]

Good for you, Leah! Enjoy the wrenches :) 

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:06:29 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:

> Great story, thank you Leah. Bike repair and maintenance is a forever 
> learning process, but I don’t want to mess with spoke tension, truing 
> wheels, or building wheels up from scratch. These are skills I deeply 
> admire in other folks.
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 12:30:47 PM UTC-5 Jim Whorton wrote:
>
>> Wonderful, and yes I can relate.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:30:45 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like a wonderful class. I wonder if you’ll start riding towards 
>>> the potholes or if you hear a noise just think “I might be able to fix 
>>> that!”  I’m going to look for a local class like that. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:31:40 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 It’s winter here in Michigan and business at the local bike shop is 
 slow. The shop had a brilliant idea to host a class for a small number of 
 students to teach basic bicycle maintenance/mechanics. Students were to 
 bring their own bikes, which was wonderful because we would learn to work 
 on what we actually have. Our teacher was quietly brilliant, extremely 
 patient, and, well, dreamy. (I would love to set him up with my friend 
 from 
 my women’s club ride and then be in their wedding. Unable to ascertain his 
 marital status without committing harassment, I am still in the throes of 
 scheming.)

 I digress! 

 He taught us how the shop gives each bike a once-over. It’s an M shape, 
 starting at the front wheel, going up to the bars, down to the pedal/chain 
 ring, up to the saddle and down to that rear wheel. From there we moved on 
 to wheel truing, derailleurs and shifters, and finally, brakes. 

 There were three of us in the class; one aluminum Trek with flat bars, 
 a steel Jamis that had been ridden hard on the trainer in covid, and my 
 raspberry Platypus. We all had V brakes. They had indexed shifting and I 
 had friction. When examining our bikes, we/he found several problems 
 (though not on the Platypus because I drag that bike in for every little 
 thing) that we then observed our teacher fix. I now know what a loose 
 headset sounds like (the Trek). Though, ironically, if you hit my front 
 wheel to elicit the sound, the German mirror will respond with an 
 identical 
 sound. There are some skills that I still see best left to the experts - 
 wheel truing, for instance. I audibly gasped when he took after the spokes 
 of a wheel to mess them up for demonstration. I am leaving my new spoke 
 wrench in the packaging because no good can come from that thing.

 I am still not brave enough to do a lot with tools to my bike, but I’m 
 working on it. I like that some of the mystery was taken out of it all and 
 I can see how parts work. Do I dare disclose here some of what I thought 
 beforehand? Oh, fine. I thought a wheel out of true meant they had to bend 
 a rim back into place. I had NO idea spokes were the culprit, nor did I 
 know you could adjust them.  And so on and so forth.

 Our mechanic was so encouraging and told us we should experiment at 
 home - don’t worry, he assured us, you won’t break anything. But I wonder 
 if he will feel the same when I show up with my collection of redundant 
 Rivendells; pieces and parts left over and collected after rolling around 
 on my garage floor. “I have been fixing my bike and now it won’t work.” 

 Anyway, it’s a small step of self-betterment and I’ll keep walking that 
 direction. I’m sure some of you out there can relate.
 Leah

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

[Eric Marth]

Wow, Takashi, John, Eric and Brian, some great pics here!

Eric, I'm glad you could get that Boxy Bag installed. 

On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:34:39 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Ok, Prize Winner! 
>
> Paul Germain 
> Midlothian, Va,
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> My wife and I typically spend our winters with our dogs and bikes on a 
>> little barrier island south of Tampa Bay. This morning, I pedaled my Gus up 
>> the beach to check out a sailboat that washed up over the weekend. Sorry 
>> it’s not a “wintry” photo per se, but I thought it made for a nice Winter 
>> bike memory…
>> - Brian
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2023, at 2:18 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was in Davis, CA, yesterday, so I took the opportunity to head out to 
>> the graffiti-covered Stevenson Creek Bridge with my ’97 Riv Road Standard. 
>> Shot these on Kodak Tri-X with a Canon Snappy LX camera. The Baggins/Nitto 
>> front bag combo arrived a little while ago from another list member. The 
>> seat bag has been adorning a series of bikes since 2005, and has been 
>> pretty much everywhere.
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2023, at 11:03 AM, John Rinker  wrote:
>>
>> A little different than my last 'Winter Ride' photo, but it's winter in 
>> Baja Sur! 
>> 
>>
>> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 4:14:57 AM UTC-8 larson@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Takashi,
>>> I’m sorry that I didn’t catch ‘spellcheck’ screwing up your name in my 
>>> previous post. My apologies, and thanks again for the pictures of your part 
>>> of the world.
>>> Randy in WI
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:18:12 PM UTC-6 larson@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Takeshita,
 Really enjoy your pictures-beautiful landscapes in a part of the world 
 I am not familiar with and a good looking Hunqapillar. We had 6” or so of 
 snow today, so Appaloosa back inside for now. Keep posting those pictures!
 Randy in WI

 On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 6:13:50 PM UTC-6 Takashi wrote:

> Ted, I bet it's also beautiful there when leaves are green. Or in 
> autumn.
>
> Steve, looking at your photo it must have been a very nice day to 
> ride, but yes, I'd like to see how it's like when there is snow. Please 
> keep posting!
>
> Randy, that photo looks like milder climate compared to your first 
> photo in this thread. Great that you had a chance to ride your cool 
> Appaloosa.
>
>
> Here are some photos from last Saturday's ride:
> [image: DSC02789.jpg]
>
> [image: DSC02817.jpg]
>
> I rode at foothill of Mt. Ontake and visited Fueki-no-taki (Fueki 
> Waterfall).
> The waterfall is approachable only on foot, so no photo of the 
> waterfall and bike together.
>
> [image: DSC02808.jpg]
>
> [image: DSC02802.jpg]
>
> Water freezes and forms giant icicles.
> In the photo above you can see another visitor wearing a green jacket, 
> so you can see sizes of icicles.
> You can go behind the fall, and it's like this:
> [image: DSC02814.jpg]
>
>
> Takashi
>
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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, John! Fun to see it up there with a nice big slide show

On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:58:40 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:

> Eric did it, his bike is featured on The Radavist...
>
> https://theradavist.com/erics-1985-bridgestone-mb-2-review/
>
> Well done Eric!
>
> JohnS
>
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 5:48:04 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Jose :) 
>>
>> From what I recall Grant was fairly new at Bridgestone when the '85s came 
>> out. Sometime in 2022 I read an account written by Grant about when he 
>> first influenced any of the bike design or specifications and when he 
>> designed his first frames but I can't recall the dates or where I read 
>> this. Probably in a Blahg. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 12:19:51 PM UTC-5 Jose wrote:
>>
>>> Amazing build! Did Grant P design the 1985 MB-1 and MB-2? 
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]

 Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
 have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg

 [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]

 I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
 for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
 over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork 
 and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss 
 to 
 the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
 stripped the frame to raw steel. 

 [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]

 Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
 patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and 
 wax. 

 [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]

 It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
 De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
 RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
 Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
 Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 

 [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]

 I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
 which I shaped and finished. 

 [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]

 Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
 M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
 my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
 Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 

 Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
 them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 

 • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
 • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
 • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
 • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
 • Kasai 32H front hub
 • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
 • Busch + Müller light mount
 • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
 • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
 • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
 • Suntour Superbe levers
 • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
 • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
 • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
 • Dia Compe yoke hangers
 • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
 • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
 • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
 • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
 • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
 • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
 • MKS XC-III pedals
 • Suntour AR front derailer
 • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
 • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
 • Brooks Conquest saddle
 • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
 • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
 • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
 • Sim Works x Hoshi
 • M5 brass socket head screws
 • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws

 Larger pictures here: 
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing

 Thanks for lookin'! 

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thank you, Jose :) 

>From what I recall Grant was fairly new at Bridgestone when the '85s came 
out. Sometime in 2022 I read an account written by Grant about when he 
first influenced any of the bike design or specifications and when he 
designed his first frames but I can't recall the dates or where I read 
this. Probably in a Blahg. 

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 12:19:51 PM UTC-5 Jose wrote:

> Amazing build! Did Grant P design the 1985 MB-1 and MB-2? 
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
>> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
>> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
>> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
>> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv shirts

[Eric Marth]

The Rockmount shirts are great! Lightweight, snap, made in USA. Someone 
should snag 'em. 

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 2:08:04 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:

> Update:
> SOLD Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
> SOLD Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good 
> $30
> Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: collar slightly darkened 
> $30 (bought from Riv)
> Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
> Rockmount)
>
> Pictures here 
> 
>
> Edwin
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 4:28:02 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> Thinning out my closet:
>> Prices include shipping, discount for Nashville pickup.
>> Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
>> Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good $30
>> Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: collar slightly darkened 
>> $30 (bought from Riv)
>> Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
>> Rockmount)
>>
>> Pictures here 
>> 
>>
>> Buy the lot $110 shipped. 
>>
>> OBO of course,
>>
>> Edwin in Nashville
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB/WTT – Huret Jubilee Long Cage Rear Derailleur

[Eric Marth]

Luke, totally with you on a cushy rando rig with 42s and want to build one 
myself. I've enjoyed the Extralights on my Hillborne and MB-2, getting them 
at cost would be nice! My first set was old, worn in and I got em for free 
from a friend so much like drugs, they were free at first and now I'm 
addicted. 

How are you going to work around the dropout issue? I thought those were 
threaded either for Huret or Campagnolo dropouts? 

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:16:24 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

>
> Ha! Very true, Eric. With my original intent in mind, I’m interested in 
> getting a frame that can fit 28s at least and then throw a Jubilee and 
> matching fd on it. The only other $$ would probably be on some René Herse 
> Extralights (which I can get at cost). 
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 10:01:28 AM UTC-6 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I have an early 90s RB-1 with 28s on it, and you can barely see the light 
>> of day between the rubber and the frame.  Anything much larger is a no-go 
>> without some chainstay mods and a switch to 650s on that frame.  That 
>> Jubilee sure is purty though!
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 10:43:07 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Luke — That doesn't sound like a budget bike! Might you consider an 
>>> early 90s Bridgestone RB-1, slap some new tires on it and call it a day?
>>>
>>> I do love the idea of your build and the intended rims and components 
>>> you mentioned. Certainly a worthwhile build I'd love to see realized. It's 
>>> just gonna be costly! The Sachs-Huret front derailers are nice-looking. 
>>>
>>> Can anyone share their experiences with the Jubilee? I've never run one, 
>>> I'm curious how well they shift. What kind of cassette limitations do you 
>>> encounter with one? 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 10:44:05 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
 Tempted… For about $50 more, there’s a nearly NOS example on eBay I 
 just found today.

 On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 7:09:28 PM UTC-6 MoVelo wrote:

> No relation to me.
>
>
> https://bikerecyclery.com/nos-huret-jubilee-long-cage-rear-derailleur-2248-touring-rare-take-off/
>
>
> JP
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-6 Ken Mattina wrote:
>
>> Well since this is just a fun exercise, how about H plus Son rims? 
>> Either the archetype or TB14.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 1:49 PM Luke Hendrickson <
>> phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Eric – French rando with or without fenders and perhaps 42mm tires 
>>> or so. Downtube shifters with a Berthoud saddle or Brooks (I have an 
>>> extra 
>>> B17 after all). No dynamo but leaning towards Atlas or Pacenti rims 
>>> with 
>>> polished or frosted hubs (no need for anything horribly expensive 
>>> here). 
>>> Leather wrapped drops with Gran Compe brake levers however I’m unsure 
>>> about 
>>> the gearing, crankset, pedals, or front derailleur. I’m leaning towards 
>>> a 
>>> matching Huret but TBD. 
>>>
>>> And this was meant to be a budget build for traveling purposes only, 
>>> too. 臘‍♂️
>>>
>>> Patrick – ha! You’ve helped muddy the waters some with a wonderful 
>>> assortment of components. This group is the best/worst lol. Those 
>>> Duprats 
>>> are STUNNING. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 3:20:40 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 10:51 AM RichS  wrote:

> Hey Luke, I like your idea but if you locate one of those gorgeous 
> Jubilees you will have to compliment it with other jewel like 
> components 
> and a worthy frame.
>
> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 7:07:42 PM UTC-5 
> rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hands down the most beautiful, jewelry like rear derailleur ever 
>> made, IMHO.
>>
>
 Picking up again on this thread: I do think that the Jubilee RD is 
 an aesthetic jewel (and I read that it actually shifts pretty well). 
 But 
 let's take this idea further. What *other *components would all 
 y'all choose to best complement a jewel-like Jubilee RD? Hubs, rims, 
 cranks, pedals, brakes, levers, seatposts, stems, bars, saddles, 
 racks, 
 cages, luggage, bells, lights?

 Stab #1. I tentatively suggest these for pretty as well as 
 superlative performance.
 Hubs: Phil. Accept no substitute. Amen. For dynamos, SON. Or 
 perhaps a NOS Sturmey Archer Dynohub, all 4 lb of it. Oh, and a 
 rechromed, 
 2022 1937 SA TC hub looks PDG too.
 Rims: ? (I confess I choose by the best ratio of weight and 
 strength, very informally determined, so I can't say which are 
 prettiest.)
 Cranks: Dura Ace 7410 followed closely by the DA GA 200 / 

Re: [RBW] WTB/WTT – Huret Jubilee Long Cage Rear Derailleur

[Eric Marth]

Luke — That doesn't sound like a budget bike! Might you consider an early 
90s Bridgestone RB-1, slap some new tires on it and call it a day?

I do love the idea of your build and the intended rims and components you 
mentioned. Certainly a worthwhile build I'd love to see realized. It's just 
gonna be costly! The Sachs-Huret front derailers are nice-looking. 

Can anyone share their experiences with the Jubilee? I've never run one, 
I'm curious how well they shift. What kind of cassette limitations do you 
encounter with one? 


On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 10:44:05 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Tempted… For about $50 more, there’s a nearly NOS example on eBay I just 
> found today.
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 7:09:28 PM UTC-6 MoVelo wrote:
>
>> No relation to me.
>>
>>
>> https://bikerecyclery.com/nos-huret-jubilee-long-cage-rear-derailleur-2248-touring-rare-take-off/
>>
>>
>> JP
>>
>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-6 Ken Mattina wrote:
>>
>>> Well since this is just a fun exercise, how about H plus Son rims? 
>>> Either the archetype or TB14.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 1:49 PM Luke Hendrickson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Eric – French rando with or without fenders and perhaps 42mm tires or 
 so. Downtube shifters with a Berthoud saddle or Brooks (I have an extra 
 B17 
 after all). No dynamo but leaning towards Atlas or Pacenti rims with 
 polished or frosted hubs (no need for anything horribly expensive here). 
 Leather wrapped drops with Gran Compe brake levers however I’m unsure 
 about 
 the gearing, crankset, pedals, or front derailleur. I’m leaning towards a 
 matching Huret but TBD. 

 And this was meant to be a budget build for traveling purposes only, 
 too. 臘‍♂️

 Patrick – ha! You’ve helped muddy the waters some with a wonderful 
 assortment of components. This group is the best/worst lol. Those Duprats 
 are STUNNING. 

 On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 3:20:40 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 10:51 AM RichS  wrote:
>
>> Hey Luke, I like your idea but if you locate one of those gorgeous 
>> Jubilees you will have to compliment it with other jewel like components 
>> and a worthy frame.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 7:07:42 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hands down the most beautiful, jewelry like rear derailleur ever 
>>> made, IMHO.
>>>
>>
> Picking up again on this thread: I do think that the Jubilee RD is an 
> aesthetic jewel (and I read that it actually shifts pretty well). But 
> let's 
> take this idea further. What *other *components would all y'all 
> choose to best complement a jewel-like Jubilee RD? Hubs, rims, cranks, 
> pedals, brakes, levers, seatposts, stems, bars, saddles, racks, cages, 
> luggage, bells, lights?
>
> Stab #1. I tentatively suggest these for pretty as well as superlative 
> performance.
> Hubs: Phil. Accept no substitute. Amen. For dynamos, SON. Or perhaps a 
> NOS Sturmey Archer Dynohub, all 4 lb of it. Oh, and a rechromed, 2022 
> 1937 
> SA TC hub looks PDG too.
> Rims: ? (I confess I choose by the best ratio of weight and strength, 
> very informally determined, so I can't say which are prettiest.)
> Cranks: Dura Ace 7410 followed closely by the DA GA 200 / 300. But 
> really, though, the prettiest cranksets of all time bar none are some of 
> the best cottered steel cranks: ethereally slender, with a shine only 
> chrome can give. The lightest were lighther than some aluminum 
> "cotterless" 
> cranks.
> Brakes: I use Paul's for practical reasons and the polished silvers 
> are nice but I can't say that they're the prettiest.
> Pedals: ?? I use XTRs and XTs and Dura Ace SPDs and M540s but these 
> are not exactly pretty.
> Levers: ? I like the Dura Ace BL 7401.
> Seatpost: DA 7410.
> Bar: Rene Herse polished Nitto.
> Saddle: ?
> Cages: The Nitto one is prettiest but I gave up after 2 broke on me 
> and sought solace in the uglier but still presentable and far, far 
> stronger 
> (and much cheaper) King Iris.
> Racks: I don't use them, but I'd have to say Nitto for looks. I use 
> customs or Tubus for practical.
> Luggage: Rivendell post-Cartwright, but no g-damned tweed.
> Bells: ? Spurcycle? I use these, but they're not shiny.
> Lights: Edeluxe.
>
> Bad photo but best I could find of Duprat hollow-arm steel cottered 
> crank:
>
> [image: image.png]
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Re: [RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[Eric Marth]

I'd like to add I think the 980s are a great looking brake, nice for the 
price, classic, innocuous, they check a lot of boxes. 

You should buy that set from Jeff, you can't go wrong.

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 10:24:32 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hey strong +1 that the Tektro Oryx brakes are terrible. Had a set on my 
> Surly LHT. 
>
> Here is a pic of the same LHT with 980s right before I sold it. 
>
> [image: surly01.jpg]
>
> [image: surly03.jpg]
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:07:00 PM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Hi John S
>>
>> Erik Billings who did the braze-on mods and other frame stuff, I asked 
>> him to make a rigid longer drop cable hanger. It is chro-mo tubing, 
>> probably seat stay tube with a 6 mm barrel braze-on. Erik made two of them, 
>> one went to someone on the i-bob, 650b, or Riv list. Powder coated aluminum 
>> color when the frame was done in green.  He also made a couple of "paper 
>> clip" style rear cable hangers - longer than Nitto or SOMA - that hangs 
>> from the seat post clamp bolt. 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 6:36:48 PM UTC-8 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> King of Mercia?
>>>
>>> Tubing specs by chance? 753? 853?
>>>
>>> Looks like standard diameter tubing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 5:47:40 PM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you John, I appreciate it!
>>>> -Rich 
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 8:39 PM, John Bokman  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gorgeous Mercian, Rich!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 9:57:41 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My Mercian with the 980s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 6:54:32 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Mike with the Bob Jackson. Nice looking bike. What front cable 
>>>>>>> hanger is that? I never seen one like it before.
>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 12:23:01 PM UTC-5 
>>>>>>> alexander...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Got some for the Miyata Triple cross I built as a 2 speed a little 
>>>>>>>> while back - I've loved them so far. Easy set up and good performance.
>>>>>>>> [image: PXL_20221020_032052542.jpg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:33:34 AM UTC-6 jad...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thinking of replacing my Tektro Oryx's (because the sux) with some 
>>>>>>>>> 980's. Like to see how they look in the real world..
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[Eric Marth]

I'd like to add I think the 980s are a great looking brake, nice for the 
price, classic, innocuous, they check a lot of boxes. 

If you can find 'em in stock in silver I'd say pick them up, you can't go 
wrong. 

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 10:24:32 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hey strong +1 that the Tektro Oryx brakes are terrible. Had a set on my 
> Surly LHT. 
>
> Here is a pic of the same LHT with 980s right before I sold it. 
>
> [image: surly01.jpg]
>
> [image: surly03.jpg]
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:07:00 PM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Hi John S
>>
>> Erik Billings who did the braze-on mods and other frame stuff, I asked 
>> him to make a rigid longer drop cable hanger. It is chro-mo tubing, 
>> probably seat stay tube with a 6 mm barrel braze-on. Erik made two of them, 
>> one went to someone on the i-bob, 650b, or Riv list. Powder coated aluminum 
>> color when the frame was done in green.  He also made a couple of "paper 
>> clip" style rear cable hangers - longer than Nitto or SOMA - that hangs 
>> from the seat post clamp bolt. 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 6:36:48 PM UTC-8 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> King of Mercia?
>>>
>>> Tubing specs by chance? 753? 853?
>>>
>>> Looks like standard diameter tubing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 5:47:40 PM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you John, I appreciate it!
>>>> -Rich 
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 8:39 PM, John Bokman  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gorgeous Mercian, Rich!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 9:57:41 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My Mercian with the 980s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 6:54:32 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Mike with the Bob Jackson. Nice looking bike. What front cable 
>>>>>>> hanger is that? I never seen one like it before.
>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 12:23:01 PM UTC-5 
>>>>>>> alexander...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Got some for the Miyata Triple cross I built as a 2 speed a little 
>>>>>>>> while back - I've loved them so far. Easy set up and good performance.
>>>>>>>> [image: PXL_20221020_032052542.jpg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:33:34 AM UTC-6 jad...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thinking of replacing my Tektro Oryx's (because the sux) with some 
>>>>>>>>> 980's. Like to see how they look in the real world..
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB/WTT – Huret Jubilee Long Cage Rear Derailleur

[Eric Marth]

Luke — I like the Jubilee. Or the look, at least, having never run one 
myself. 

What are you picturing for the rest of build? Are you going for a French 
Noodle (springy frame in the style of BQ?) 

On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 1:06:59 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Ha! I know, I know. My “extra” bike is fast becoming quite the project 
> bike for me…
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-6 RichS wrote:
>
>> Hey Luke,
>>
>> I like your idea but if you locate one of those gorgeous Jubilees you 
>> will have to compliment it with other jewel like components and a worthy 
>> frame.
>> Lots of luck in your quest!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 7:07:42 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hands down the most beautiful, jewelry like rear derailleur ever made, 
>>> IMHO. I had a complete set on my PX10 around 1980. Lovely.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Luke Hendrickson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> I think that it’s positively beautiful and that it’d be fun to track 
>>> down the corresponding Huret front derailleur and other period components. 
>>> Here’s one from an eBay listing. What a stunner…
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 9:51:16 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 A bicycle built around a derailleur: that has to be a first. Why the 
 Jubilee?

 I built a bike around a hub, but the hub include the gears. I'll be 
 very interested in the final result; please post build specs and photos.

 On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 10:28 PM Luke Hendrickson <
 phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote:

> Hey all!
>
> I fly out to visit my folks a bunch and want to build up a bike to 
> either fly *with* or stash there. Instead of starting with a frameset 
> and building around that, I’d like to build it around a Huret Jubilee! 
> Please pm me if you have one and wish to part with it/happen to be 
> looking 
> for something and want to see if I have it. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Rivs on film

[Eric Marth]

Dang, Jamin, these are great. I especially like that pic of your Homer in 
shadow with the mountains in the sun. Really good! 

On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 8:17:57 PM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:

> Accidentally posted this to ibob so I'm moving it here! (pretty Rivendell 
> specific)
>
> Got a roll of film back yesterday and it had several shots of my 
> bikes/rides! I thought ya'll might enjoy! Feel free to post any recent 
> Rivendell film shots if you have some.
>
> Taken with a Nikon FE on Kodak portra film.   Still learning how to use an 
> slr and it's kinda heavy/bulky but I got inspired by all those RSF riders 
> with big honkin cameras slung across their backs.
>
> Jamin
>
> [image: 05810033 Large.jpeg]
> [image: 05810029 Large.jpeg][image: 05810023 Large.jpeg][image: 
> 05810020 Large.jpeg]
>
> [image: 05810008 Large.jpeg][image: 05810007 Large.jpeg]
> [image: 05810015 Large.jpeg]
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[RBW] WTB: Atlas 700C with SON dynamo hub

[Eric Marth]

Hello friends — I'm looking for an Atlas wheel with a SON dynamo hub. 32H, 
silver preferred (dull or polished). If you have something please drop me a 
note! 

Thank you

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[RBW] Re: Platypus questions

[Eric Marth]

Hi Doug — If you haven't yet I'd recommend calling Rivendell, someone there 
would be happy to talk to you about the differences in the frames. 

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 PM UTC-5 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Doug! Although not platypuss, I have clem L in both 59cm and 52cm if 
> you want to take a test ride. Holler at me, I'm in the Valley.
> - Matt
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 5:08:01 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the response, Kim. Really, any Rivendell step thru is an 
>> option. I don't do any trail riding so the Platypus is sufficient & I'm 
>> guessing will have a softer ride than one of the more trail capable frames. 
>> A major factor will be what's available, and with Riv's current delivery 
>> program one has to be ready to make a decision & commit on short notice. 
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best 
>>> option for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an 
>>> upright riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging my 
>>> right leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been 
>>> looking for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  
>>> Furthermore, I enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very solid 
>>> and sure-footed bike. 
>>>
>>> The Clem maybe an option for you ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
 I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg over 
 the saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks like the 
 best option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 

 The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in 
 doing is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis. Specifically, 
 I'm curious about the distance of the seat from the bars. I seem to be 
 shrinking in my old age & the reach on the Atlantis is just a bit too far. 
 Not unridable but a noticeable stretch, even with a short stem & swept 
 back 
 bars.

 Let me know if you may be of assistance. Be forewarned I'll probably 
 think of some more questions if this looks promising. It would be 
 fantastic 
 is you're in southern California.

 Doug Peterson 
  

>>>

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[RBW] Re: English subtitles for Blue Lug's video

[Eric Marth]

I really appreciate Blue Lug's designations of frames falling between 
"Thick-Riv" and "Slim-Riv" and hope to see more of that used around here :) 

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:24:15 AM UTC-5 Masa wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Thank you for your reply. It sounds like you had a nice Sunday morning!
> I agree with you that Rivendell's own model descriptions could confuse 
> someone new to Rivendell like I was.
> It's helpful that Blue Lug describes the models from an objective 
> perspective to understand the differences and similarities.
> I'm glad that you enjoyed their video with the subtitles!
>
> Masa
> 2023年2月5日日曜日 23:57:36 UTC+9 J J:
>
>> Masa, I want to extend my gratitude for your translation and subtitle 
>> effort. I enjoyed watching the video with my Sunday morning coffee. It was 
>> great to hear the discussion of Rivendell model similarities and 
>> differences. I think the video would be extremely helpful for someone new 
>> to Rivendell who might get overwhelmed by Rivendell’s own model 
>> descriptions. Thank you again, and thank you Blue Lug!!
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 2:35:10 AM UTC-5 Masa wrote:
>>
>>> Slin,
>>>
>>> I'm glad that you enjoyed watching the video!
>>> I liked the blog post you shared very much as well. It's been always fun 
>>> to read his blog posts.
>>>
>>> Get some nice healing on your Clem and have a nice weekend:)
>>>
>>> Masa
>>> 2023年2月5日日曜日 3:00:27 UTC+9 Slin:
>>>
 Masa - Thanks for making the subtitles! My favorite part was also the 
 'healing' part too.

 Earlier in the video they mention when they first became Riv Dealers 
 they felt like they had to learn how to build up Riv's (and they sure 
 did!). It reminded me of one of Blue Lug's recent blog posts breaking down 
 how they wrap handlebar grips on Riv's, the 'Grant Wrap'

 There's some great cockpit detail shots here:
 https://bluelug.com/blog/kamiuma/137628/

 - Slin 
 Now off to get some healing on my Clem! Speaking of which, I also had 
 my idea of where a Clem fit change a lot over the years too.

 On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:50:18 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:

> Thank you all for your warm replies!
> I'm happy that I could help you to enjoy watching the video better. It 
> was a really fun project for me as well!
>
> Tom, I'm going to watch "Cycle Around Japan"! I didn't know that.
>
> Al, yeah that part was funny wasn't it? I'm glad that I could 
> translate the nuance of that part!
>
> Leah, I really admire that your son self studies Japanese! Actually my 
> profession is teaching Japanese so I know that sometimes it could be 
> tough 
> to study it for some learners. The word was perfect so please tell him 
> that 
> どういたしまして (you are welcome) and がんばってください (best wishes) for me :)
>
> Masa
>
> 2023年2月4日土曜日 11:07:15 UTC+9 Al in SF:
>
>> Masa,
>>
>> Thank you so much for these translations! The bit about the Hillborne 
>> having healing properties at 59:15 cracked me up.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 4:26:58 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> This is my first post of 2023, I hope you are having good rides!
>>>
>>> Last month I happened to have an opportunity to make subtitles for 
>>> Blue Lug’s YouTube channel and now the “Rivendell Chart” video is 
>>> English 
>>> subtitled!
>>>
>>> Let me tell you how it happened. First of all, When I finished 
>>> watching the video I felt that “oh this video should be shared with 
>>> English 
>>> speaking Rivendell fans(means this "RBW Owners Bunch) too” so I started 
>>> translating the video briefly.
>>>
>>> Then I found someone commented that “Subtitles please!” and Blue Lug 
>>> replied “we’d love to but at the moment we are too busy so we need a 
>>> help”. 
>>> I thought that “why don’t I do that?”
>>>
>>> It took me a week to complete subtitling between my work, playing 
>>> with my baby, feeding my baby, putting my baby to sleep, sleeping with 
>>> my 
>>> baby, chatting with my wife and commuting by my Platypus.
>>>
>>> It was a really fun work to do related to not only the things I’m 
>>> passionate about which are languages and bicycles but also favourite 
>>> people 
>>> who are Rivendell and Blue Lug!
>>>
>>> I would be very happy that if I could be a help for Rivendell and 
>>> Blue Lug. Ultimately I hope people who watch the subtitled video will 
>>> find 
>>> how Rivendell bicycles are amazing even better than before, that would 
>>> be 
>>> amazing.
>>>
>>> Link to the video↓
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx83uMhIgKA
>>>
>>> Masa
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Looking for Bombadil PDF

[Eric Marth]

Very cool, Max!

Thanks for the pdf, too 

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:56:36 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:

> Sweet Max. Congratulations on the Bombadil. What size is it? Can't wait to 
> see how you dress it up!
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:45:15 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a set of silver Paul thumbies lying around unused?
>>
>> I'm also interested in a pair of used Paul Love Levers 2.5 (switching 
>> brakes to Minimoto's), otherwise I might end up installing the black ones I 
>> have on another bike for now.
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:42:11 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for confirming JJ.
>>>
>>> I guess now is a good time to share that I have a new project brewing 
>>> this winter! 
>>>
>>> According to the seller he bought it new from Riv in 2016 which sounds 
>>> off given the details and the build but maybe it was an old demo, stashed 
>>> somewhere in the warehouse?
>>> Either way I'm beyond stoked about having found such a gem:
>>>
>>> [image: 322680578_5656479324459676_7415959924211071863_n.jpg]
>>>
>>> Here is the non-drive side decal:
>>>
>>> [image: bomba.jpg]
>>>
>>> I'll install Bullmoose bars, thumbies, racks and I'm considering new 
>>> tires. Still waiting for a few things I'll need for the (re)build.
>>> Photos will follow
>>>
>>> Max
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 1:44:18 PM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>
 Even more graphic variation - this from the original batch:

 [image: IMG_0341.JPG]

 and a closeup of the style from the .pdf

 [image: IMG_1599.JPG]

 On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 1:24:36 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> Interesting how the Bombadil graphics on the decals changed over time. 
> Thanks for the link.
>
> [image: bomb1 (3).jpg]
>
> Laing
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 1:14:07 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:
>
>> Max, I think you have indeed had it all along! The creation date on 
>> the PDF is Sep 9, 2010.
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 1:09:47 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Marty! Interesting, I did find that one, I have the pdf... 
>>> maybe I've had it all along?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20110708185319/http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/358/original_sept_9.pdf
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Looking for Bombadil PDF

[Eric Marth]

Good gravy, Marty how is it that you even have this hyper downsampled set 
of images at all? 

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:22:43 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:

> Not good enough to read, but in case this jogs anyone's memory, I think 
> this is the one you are looking for?
>
> Marty
> [image: original_sept_9.jpeg]
>
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:03:59 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Thanks Eric, much appreciated.
>>
>> Still looking for that other pdf if someone has it!
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 6:20:00 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Closet thing I can find, Max, is the announcement in Riv Reader number 
>>> 41, starting on page 6. 
>>>
>>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/RR41.pdf
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 5:39:15 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone have a copy of the pdf referenced here:

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bombadil/index.html

 From Riv Sept, 2010

 Filename: rbw_090910_bombadil.pdf

 Thanks!
 Max

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Kim, but while the website is still up I thought John Kucharik 
closed up shop and liquidated their inventory sometime in 2021 or 2022. 

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:01:14 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Try visiting Kucharick Bicycle Clothing. Going out of business sale !
> https://www.kucharik.com/
>
> I have bought some solid colored wool jerseys late last year from John 
> Kucharick. They are luxurious merino wool !
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 9:25:55 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> George — I do wish that there was more simple wool out there in nice 
>> solid colors and I think generally shorts are too long! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:21:11 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
> Interesting discussion topic, Andrew. I picture Jobst today on a bike very 
>>> similar to what he ran most of his life. Steel frame, no racks, rim brakes. 
>>> Maybe a frame that would accommodate wider tires. 
>>>
>>> Here's a picture of Jobst from his last Alpine tour in 2008 (read more 
>>> here 
>>> <https://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_Alps/2008/index.html>
>>> ). 
>>>
>>> [image: xnemj6.jpg]
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what make of frames he was riding in this era. But after 50 
>>> years of touring thousands of miles every summer in Italy, Switzerland and 
>>> France (in addition to the long rides in California) I can't see him 
>>> switching up and running racks or a rando build. He was famously ornery and 
>>> I think he had his system right where he wanted it. He'd tour with a 
>>> Carradice and stayed in hotels along the way (many with friends and 
>>> families he'd met in the 1950s). 
>>>
>>> As for frame material, this is of course a guess, but I'd wager he'd 
>>> stick with steel. He rode well into the carbon era. As Tom shared in the 
>>> Radavist article today Brandt would get a new frame every few years, 
>>> worried about damage or fractures. He chose yellow paint for his bikes 
>>> because he thought it was the best for highlighting damage. I could see his 
>>> familiarity with steel keeping him on steel frames. And I could see the 
>>> possibility of catastrophic failure keeping him from carbon. 
>>>
>>> Regarding helmets, I don't think Brandt ever wore one. He probably 
>>> shared an explanation for this back on rec.bicycles.tech but that's way 
>>> before my time. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:55:43 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>>
>>>> True.  I remember those days.  The most you see in one or two of those 
>>>> photos are riders wearing "leather hair nets," except for one who looks 
>>>> like he has a mountaineering helmet.  Another thing I notice is much 
>>>> shorter cycling shorts, probably all wool with a natural chamois crotch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:31:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Those pictures were taken before helmets were commonly available. 
>>>>> During Bikecentennial helmets were rare. Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 4:20 PM lconley  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing I notice in those photos is that no one was wearing a 
>>>>>> helmet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-5 
>>>>>> andyree...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a 
>>>>>>> nod to current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier gearing. 
>>>>>>> As 
>>>>>>> a result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you 
>>>>>>> spliced 
>>>>>>> his timeline and moved his prime days to current day. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today's Radavist 
>>>>>>> <https://theradavist.com/conversations-with-tom-ritchey-part-two-the-influence-of-jobst-brandt/>
>>>>>>>  article 
>>>>>>> really fueled that question so I'd like to open it up to this group who 
>>>>>>> likely have much more insight into the man and his bike(s). 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are we thinking? Rim brakes or disc? Carbon? Steel?

[RBW] Re: Looking for Bombadil PDF

[Eric Marth]

Closet thing I can find, Max, is the announcement in Riv Reader number 41, 
starting on page 6. 

http://notfine.com/rivendell/RR41.pdf

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 5:39:15 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> Does anyone have a copy of the pdf referenced here:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bombadil/index.html
>
> From Riv Sept, 2010
>
> Filename: rbw_090910_bombadil.pdf
>
> Thanks!
> Max
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

That's very sweet of you to say, Mike, thank you!

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:46:42 PM UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another great video and bike build Eric. Thanks.
>
> mike
>
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 9:45:54 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Quite nice, John, thank you for sharing! Seems it's held up well over the 
>> past decade-plus. And it looks like a fun and gravy ride. Enjoy!
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 10:15:44 AM UTC-5 John Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Really inspiring work, Eric!
>>>
>>> Hope it's okay if I share my bare-metal bridgestone here. Back in 2009 
>>> or so, I had an XO-2 stripped and clear-coated by a local shop. Today it's 
>>> got it's fair share of rust/spidering (I probably shoulda reapplied some 
>>> clearcoat but didn't), but it's still my favorite daily rider. It started 
>>> out with drops and a triple, then changed to albastache bars, and finally a 
>>> bullmoose bar I had laying around and changed to drivetrain to a 1x with an 
>>> alpine gear. 
>>> [image: 20230201_143227.jpg][image: 20230201_143222.jpg]
>>>
>>> -John
>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 3:24:26 PM UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Keith. I'm glad to hear I'm tolerable enough for the kids. 
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate the kind note!
>>>>
>>>> The button-head bolts were filler when I first got the frame. All 
>>>> socket-head now 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:32:00 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Another lovely bike and another beautiful video, Eric.  
>>>>> I've watched it a couple of times now. (The kids will come in and 
>>>>> groan "oh, the bike guy again,"  but then stay and watch the whole 
>>>>> thing.) 
>>>>> I know how much thought and work and effort goes into all that 
>>>>> coverage. I really appreciate how much love you put into them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like you found some round-headed brass bolts for your bottle 
>>>>> mounts. Nice find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul, that Trek is a treat. What a color!
>>>>>
>>>>> k.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:18:58 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another vote for Jen Green’s fine work. She did a head badge, made 
>>>>>> from nickel, for me several years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 9:39 AM, Eric Marth  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JohnS — Let us know how it turns out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rich — Thanks for the thumbs, Rich. I put a little more effort into 
>>>>>>> the still photo documentation this time around, my iPhone 8 just 
>>>>>>> couldn't 
>>>>>>> render the metal surface and details. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul — Thank you! I hadn't seen Jen Green's work, thanks for the 
>>>>>>> link. The Bontrager is rad! Looks like you put a lot of labor and love 
>>>>>>> into 
>>>>>>> it. A proper headbadge always beats a decal!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 10:20:00 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>> I finally got to view your superb YouTube video - wonderfully 
>>>>>>>> relaxing! (As well as informative, of course.)
>>>>>>>> I loved all the attention you put into the headbadge, too. You may 
>>>>>>>> already know, but a gal in Philly, Jen Green, does custom head badges 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> does a great job. (She works in bronze too, but maybe not brass.)  
>>>>>>>> Revolution Cycle Jewelry: 
>>>>>>>> https://www.headbadges.com/store/c2/Headbadges.html
>>>>>>>> I had her make a Bontrager badge a few years ago for my CX bike 
>>>>>>>> that I had Keith Bontrager build for me in 1989. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/48051561606/in/dateposted-public/
>>>>>>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for these, Max, John's build and pics are simply delicious. 

Very sweet bike and poster/postcard combo, Jennings! I'd rock a Hunq tee 
shirt with that design. 
On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:22:33 PM UTC-5 Jennings wrote:

> Ill play along.  I've had my 58 Hunqapillar since 2010.  Its my absolute 
> favorite bike even over the Trek 720 and the Specialized expedition i 
> owned.  I even have the poster and postcard Rivendell was selling when 
> these first came out.  
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:24:37 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>
>> For those not on instagram, looks the build is coming together for John's 
>> yellow Bomba - the color looks amazing on these photos:
>>
>> [image: IMG_9687.jpeg] [image: IMG_9688.jpeg]
>> Max
>> On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:41:46 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> Lovely bike, Vern! What kind of drop bars are those?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 5:30:49 PM UTC-7 plumber...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Purchased from a member of the group in July but very recently built 
 Bombadil. Excited for many more miles of dirt in the new year!

 [image: IMG_9161.jpg]

 Happy holidays,
 Vern in San Francisco
 On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 12:41:47 PM UTC-8 foolis...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Presumedly, it might of sounded like I didn't like my Bombadil. I 
> associate "overbuilt" with "wellmade" and absolutely love my bike. It 
> keeps 
> up with a casual road ride no problem. Impressive! It always felt like a 
> swiss army knife. It's really great hearing all of the Bomba and Hunq 
> info 
> flowing. They have always been the most interesting of the Riv line to 
> me. 
>
> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 9:34:53 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>> That is indeed my Hunq and it is a Waterford frame.  I pre-ordered 
>> from the first Taiwan production but Riv screwed up and sold mine to 
>> somebody else.  When they realized their mistake they offered the 
>> remaining 
>> 54CM from the first Waterford run.  My understanding is that the more 
>> ornate lugs require more handwork during the brazing process and were 
>> too 
>> difficult for the factory to produce.  My Taiwan built Sam  has the less 
>> ornate rounded lugs like the ones on the Taiwan Hunqs.  Everything 
>> people 
>> say about the ride is true.  The Hunq is a 
>> goanywheredoanythingforbigboysbike, but, despite feeling heavy (my frame 
>> and fork registered 10lbs on the bathroom scale) it rides surprisingly 
>> quickly.  I've ridden with 15-16mph groups at club and charity rides 
>> with 
>> no problem and could probably keep up with faster if I cared enough.
>> [image: IMG_1831.JPG]
>> Here's where it's taken me so far.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 4:26:48 PM UTC-5 Chris L wrote:
>>
>>> I first discovered RBW in August of 2011 and Grant said he would 
>>> only recommend the Hunqapillar or Bombadil for someone my weight.  In 
>>> the 
>>> following eight years it took for me to finally buy one, I amassed 
>>> quite a 
>>> collection of Hunqapillar photos.  
>>>
>>> One thing I've noticed is that some of the very earliest 
>>> Hunqapillars have mismatched headtube lugs.  The top has points on the 
>>> sides but on some bikes, the bottom headtube lug is rounded, with no 
>>> point 
>>> on some bikes and pointed on the sides of others.  I'm wondering if 
>>> this 
>>> factor differentiates Tawain Hunqapillars from the MUSA/Japan (of Toyo 
>>> made 
>>> some, it seems like they did) ones.  
>>>
>>> The 54cm proto-type had the rounded side on the bottom lug.  
>>>
>>> [image: 4985768915_03bc844911_o.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> This kidney bean Hunq also has the smooth sided bottom lug
>>>
>>> [image: 005 (2).jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe this is Marc's bike and I think he has stated it was a 
>>> Waterford frame and it has the point on the side of the bottom lug
>>>
>>> [image: 006.jpg]
>>> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 8:02:36 AM UTC-6 
>>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 All,

 I was deleting old file from my phone and found the *Original 
 Hunqabook" PDF.  I'm not sure if it was shared already, but here you 
 go.

 On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:04:20 PM UTC-6 Cyclofiend Jim 
 wrote:

> Yes. My recollection was that Bomba was coming out when it was 
> "suggested" that those names were IP, so IIRC it was the last of the 
> Tolkien names.
>
> Grant shared the Hunkapiller mailbox story with me verbally during 
> a visit to RBWHQ It was the same as he later wrote in one of the 
> Readers. 
>
> The first Hunqapillar I ever 

[RBW] Pineapple Bob Bridgestone tee: Who got it?

[Eric Marth]

I sent Will the Depop link to the Bridgestone tee in today's email. I 
noticed it sold, wondering if anyone here nabbed it :) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Quite nice, John, thank you for sharing! Seems it's held up well over the 
past decade-plus. And it looks like a fun and gravy ride. Enjoy!

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 10:15:44 AM UTC-5 John Johnson wrote:

> Really inspiring work, Eric!
>
> Hope it's okay if I share my bare-metal bridgestone here. Back in 2009 or 
> so, I had an XO-2 stripped and clear-coated by a local shop. Today it's got 
> it's fair share of rust/spidering (I probably shoulda reapplied some 
> clearcoat but didn't), but it's still my favorite daily rider. It started 
> out with drops and a triple, then changed to albastache bars, and finally a 
> bullmoose bar I had laying around and changed to drivetrain to a 1x with an 
> alpine gear. 
> [image: 20230201_143227.jpg][image: 20230201_143222.jpg]
>
> -John
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 3:24:26 PM UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Keith. I'm glad to hear I'm tolerable enough for the kids. 
>>
>> I appreciate the kind note!
>>
>> The button-head bolts were filler when I first got the frame. All 
>> socket-head now 
>>
>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:32:00 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Another lovely bike and another beautiful video, Eric.  
>>> I've watched it a couple of times now. (The kids will come in and groan 
>>> "oh, the bike guy again,"  but then stay and watch the whole thing.) 
>>> I know how much thought and work and effort goes into all that coverage. 
>>> I really appreciate how much love you put into them.
>>>
>>> Looks like you found some round-headed brass bolts for your bottle 
>>> mounts. Nice find.
>>>
>>> Paul, that Trek is a treat. What a color!
>>>
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:18:58 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another vote for Jen Green’s fine work. She did a head badge, made from 
>>>> nickel, for me several years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 9:39 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> JohnS — Let us know how it turns out!
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich — Thanks for the thumbs, Rich. I put a little more effort into 
>>>>> the still photo documentation this time around, my iPhone 8 just couldn't 
>>>>> render the metal surface and details. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul — Thank you! I hadn't seen Jen Green's work, thanks for the link. 
>>>>> The Bontrager is rad! Looks like you put a lot of labor and love into it. 
>>>>> A 
>>>>> proper headbadge always beats a decal!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 10:20:00 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>> I finally got to view your superb YouTube video - wonderfully 
>>>>>> relaxing! (As well as informative, of course.)
>>>>>> I loved all the attention you put into the headbadge, too. You may 
>>>>>> already know, but a gal in Philly, Jen Green, does custom head badges 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> does a great job. (She works in bronze too, but maybe not brass.)  
>>>>>> Revolution Cycle Jewelry: 
>>>>>> https://www.headbadges.com/store/c2/Headbadges.html
>>>>>> I had her make a Bontrager badge a few years ago for my CX bike that 
>>>>>> I had Keith Bontrager build for me in 1989. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/48051561606/in/dateposted-public/
>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/7215770445842
>>>>>> Paul Germain
>>>>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>>>>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock 
>>>>>>> but for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the 
>>>>>>> frame 
>>>>>>> over

Re: [RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Keith. I'm glad to hear I'm tolerable enough for the kids. 

I appreciate the kind note!

The button-head bolts were filler when I first got the frame. All 
socket-head now 

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:32:00 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:

> Another lovely bike and another beautiful video, Eric.  
> I've watched it a couple of times now. (The kids will come in and groan 
> "oh, the bike guy again,"  but then stay and watch the whole thing.) 
> I know how much thought and work and effort goes into all that coverage. I 
> really appreciate how much love you put into them.
>
> Looks like you found some round-headed brass bolts for your bottle mounts. 
> Nice find.
>
> Paul, that Trek is a treat. What a color!
>
> k.
>
> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:18:58 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>
>> Another vote for Jen Green’s fine work. She did a head badge, made from 
>> nickel, for me several years ago.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 9:39 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> JohnS — Let us know how it turns out!
>>>
>>> Rich — Thanks for the thumbs, Rich. I put a little more effort into the 
>>> still photo documentation this time around, my iPhone 8 just couldn't 
>>> render the metal surface and details. 
>>>
>>> Paul — Thank you! I hadn't seen Jen Green's work, thanks for the link. 
>>> The Bontrager is rad! Looks like you put a lot of labor and love into it. A 
>>> proper headbadge always beats a decal!
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 10:20:00 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>> I finally got to view your superb YouTube video - wonderfully relaxing! 
>>>> (As well as informative, of course.)
>>>> I loved all the attention you put into the headbadge, too. You may 
>>>> already know, but a gal in Philly, Jen Green, does custom head badges and 
>>>> does a great job. (She works in bronze too, but maybe not brass.)  
>>>> Revolution Cycle Jewelry: 
>>>> https://www.headbadges.com/store/c2/Headbadges.html
>>>> I had her make a Bontrager badge a few years ago for my CX bike that I 
>>>> had Keith Bontrager build for me in 1989. 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/48051561606/in/dateposted-public/
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/7215770445842
>>>> Paul Germain
>>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
>>>>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
>>>>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the 
>>>>> fork 
>>>>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>>>>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications 
>>>>> of patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and 
>>>>> wax. 
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>>>>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>>>>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque 
>>>>> Phelan. 
>>>>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x 
>>>>> Nitto 
>>>>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>>>>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
&

[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Eric Marth]

I can't wrap my head around the gearing in the pictures Jeremy shared. Good 
lord! He was pushing some big gears all the way to the end. 

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 8:24:23 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I think fillet brazing allowed him complete freedom of frame geometry and 
> tube sizing, without compromising strength (vs. lugs). I needed somewhat 
> different geometry and tube sizing on my custom, due to my weight and 
> lng torso, and that resulted in a fillet brazed bottom bracket as there 
> were no readily available BB lug. From what I think I know, fillet brazing 
> is stronger than TIG, as it spreads the stress over a greater area. I think 
> I also read once that fillet brazing is sometime used over top of TIG.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:36:58 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>> I think he'd ride a very similar bike today to the ones he rode for 50 
>> years. 
>>
>>- Steel. He wasn't swayed by aluminum, titanium, or carbon, the first 
>>time around, so nu-Jobst wouldn't choose them either. Steel is still 
>> tough, 
>>reliable, and cheap. 
>>- Fillet brazed? I imagine this was for aesthetics, but I'd need to 
>>dive into The Jobst Hole to find out. 
>>- Rim brakes, not discs. Single pivot sidepulls (??) indicate no 
>>worries about stopping with a simple, light, rim brake. 
>>- Supple tires, but still narrow. I would love to see Jobst and Jan 
>>debate the testing protocol.
>>- Downtube shifters. Simple, light, easy cabling, and there for the 
>>two times a day he'd shift. 
>>- Yellow. 
>>
>> Philip 
>> rec.bicycles.tech
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 1:59:48 PM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Laing, I think you made a lot of solid arguments. Custom steel still 
>>> feels like the way he'd go, and probably not so dissimilar to his no-frills 
>>> road bikes of yore. I'm certainly grateful for his impact on the bicycle, 
>>> riders, and builders of today, and for the journalists keeping his name 
>>> alive!
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 3:16:07 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>>>
 If he were still around, I think he would probably still have the same 
 setup as the 2008 photo, steel, rim brakes, clipless pedals. 
 But that is not the question that seems to have been posed. As I 
 understand the question, it is if his prime days were now, what would he 
 be 
 riding - basically not a silent generation member, but a later millennial 
 or early gen-Xer, but still a mechanical engineer, still concerned with 
 reliability, and dare I say it, under-biking. So maybe he still ends up on 
 a metal, rimmed braked bike. I think it may be easier to eliminate some 
 things, I don't see him with electronic shifting, that just adds more 
 possible unrepairable-on-the-road failure points. I want to say no disc 
 either - as it adds stress to the fork and reduces the reliability of the 
 front end of the bike. I kind of envision him on a stripped down 80th 
 anniversary Rene-Herse or Rivendell Rodeo, or possibly some sort of 
 titanium frame.

 I am a mechanical engineer also, but a boomer.

 Laing

 On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 1:42:06 PM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I think I'd agree that Jobst would remain an advocate for the rim 
> brake...PROBABLY. But just to play devil's advocate, if Jobst was in his 
> prime today, he wouldn't have been brought up with the old-school tech 
> that 
> we're familiar with him using, but I suppose being a *bit* of a 
> retrogrouch could still be in his cards. To me, it would depend heavily 
> on 
> his opinion towards modern wheel design and if the 11 (or 12) speed hub 
> would be a yay or nay. As I'm typing this, I'm reminded of Ritchey's 
> comment on his use of his shifters, or lack-there-of, so I'm leaning 
> towards him reverting to shorter free-hub bodies. Hell, maybe he'd have 
> beat Rivendell to the modern-day 7 speed rear hub! Or perhaps, the Rene 
> Herse rear mech would tickle his fancy. Tough call. He'd certainly ride 
> whatever it is to the ground though. 
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:51:37 AM UTC-6 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> Thank you for sharing.  The article was definitely worth the read.  A 
>> few things stood out to me:
>>
>> - they were/are all *extremely *fit.
>> - fear was not a word in their vocabulary.
>> - what camaraderie (and competition) at the same time.
>> - the Higgins' couple rock.  Of course the stoker is doing all the 
>> work ;)
>>
>> Jeff
>> Claremont, CA
>> (who's beloved stoker [Lori] continues to do all the work)
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:49:25 AM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a 

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Eric Marth]

I remember reading somewhere Jobst thought the 6 speeds on his freewheel 
were more than enough. And have read in more place's than today's TR/JB 
piece that Jobst didn't shift very much! Vaguely recall a direct quote from 
him saying he didn't shift every time the terrain changed. 

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 3:00:45 PM UTC-5 vhans...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's true, but Jobst, Peter Johnson, John Loomis, Tom Ritchey, Charlie 
> Cunningham, are all members of the Less Is More club.   130mm/135mm not 
> enough room for a cassette, adequate strength hub and disc rotor to all 
> fit. 
> vtw d
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 10:42 AM Andrew Turner  
> wrote:
>
>> I think I'd agree that Jobst would remain an advocate for the rim 
>> brake...PROBABLY. But just to play devil's advocate, if Jobst was in his 
>> prime today, he wouldn't have been brought up with the old-school tech that 
>> we're familiar with him using, but I suppose being a *bit* of a 
>> retrogrouch could still be in his cards. To me, it would depend heavily on 
>> his opinion towards modern wheel design and if the 11 (or 12) speed hub 
>> would be a yay or nay. As I'm typing this, I'm reminded of Ritchey's 
>> comment on his use of his shifters, or lack-there-of, so I'm leaning 
>> towards him reverting to shorter free-hub bodies. Hell, maybe he'd have 
>> beat Rivendell to the modern-day 7 speed rear hub! Or perhaps, the Rene 
>> Herse rear mech would tickle his fancy. Tough call. He'd certainly ride 
>> whatever it is to the ground though. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:51:37 AM UTC-6 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> Thank you for sharing.  The article was definitely worth the read.  A 
>>> few things stood out to me:
>>>
>>> - they were/are all *extremely *fit.
>>> - fear was not a word in their vocabulary.
>>> - what camaraderie (and competition) at the same time.
>>> - the Higgins' couple rock.  Of course the stoker is doing all the work 
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> Claremont, CA
>>> (who's beloved stoker [Lori] continues to do all the work)
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:49:25 AM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a nod 
 to current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier gearing. As a 
 result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you spliced 
 his timeline and moved his prime days to current day. 

 Today's Radavist 
 
  article 
 really fueled that question so I'd like to open it up to this group who 
 likely have much more insight into the man and his bike(s). 

 What are we thinking? Rim brakes or disc? Carbon? Steel? Ti? I see a 
 lot of similarities between him and Jan Heine as far as a desire for 
 performance and reliability, so perhaps he'd lean towards a rando build?  

 Take it away if you wish, 
 Andrew

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Eric Marth]

George — I do wish that there was more simple wool out there in nice solid 
colors and I think generally shorts are too long! 

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:21:11 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Interesting discussion topic, Andrew. I picture Jobst today on a bike very 
> similar to what he ran most of his life. Steel frame, no racks, rim brakes. 
> Maybe a frame that would accommodate wider tires. 
>
> Here's a picture of Jobst from his last Alpine tour in 2008 (read more 
> here 
> <https://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_Alps/2008/index.html>
> ). 
>
> [image: xnemj6.jpg]
>
> I'm not sure what make of frames he was riding in this era. But after 50 
> years of touring thousands of miles every summer in Italy, Switzerland and 
> France (in addition to the long rides in California) I can't see him 
> switching up and running racks or a rando build. He was famously ornery and 
> I think he had his system right where he wanted it. He'd tour with a 
> Carradice and stayed in hotels along the way (many with friends and 
> families he'd met in the 1950s). 
>
> As for frame material, this is of course a guess, but I'd wager he'd stick 
> with steel. He rode well into the carbon era. As Tom shared in the Radavist 
> article today Brandt would get a new frame every few years, worried about 
> damage or fractures. He chose yellow paint for his bikes because he thought 
> it was the best for highlighting damage. I could see his familiarity with 
> steel keeping him on steel frames. And I could see the possibility of 
> catastrophic failure keeping him from carbon. 
>
> Regarding helmets, I don't think Brandt ever wore one. He probably shared 
> an explanation for this back on rec.bicycles.tech but that's way before my 
> time. 
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:55:43 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> True.  I remember those days.  The most you see in one or two of those 
>> photos are riders wearing "leather hair nets," except for one who looks 
>> like he has a mountaineering helmet.  Another thing I notice is much 
>> shorter cycling shorts, probably all wool with a natural chamois crotch.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:31:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> Those pictures were taken before helmets were commonly available. During 
>>> Bikecentennial helmets were rare. Steve
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 4:20 PM lconley  wrote:
>>>
>>>> One thing I notice in those photos is that no one was wearing a helmet.
>>>>
>>>> Laing
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a nod 
>>>>> to current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier gearing. As a 
>>>>> result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you spliced 
>>>>> his timeline and moved his prime days to current day. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Today's Radavist 
>>>>> <https://theradavist.com/conversations-with-tom-ritchey-part-two-the-influence-of-jobst-brandt/>
>>>>>  article 
>>>>> really fueled that question so I'd like to open it up to this group who 
>>>>> likely have much more insight into the man and his bike(s). 
>>>>>
>>>>> What are we thinking? Rim brakes or disc? Carbon? Steel? Ti? I see a 
>>>>> lot of similarities between him and Jan Heine as far as a desire for 
>>>>> performance and reliability, so perhaps he'd lean towards a rando build?  
>>>>>
>>>>> Take it away if you wish, 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Eric Marth]

Interesting discussion topic, Andrew. I picture Jobst today on a bike very 
similar to what he ran most of his life. Steel frame, no racks, rim brakes. 
Maybe a frame that would accommodate wider tires. 

Here's a picture of Jobst from his last Alpine tour in 2008 (read more here 

). 

[image: xnemj6.jpg]

I'm not sure what make of frames he was riding in this era. But after 50 
years of touring thousands of miles every summer in Italy, Switzerland and 
France (in addition to the long rides in California) I can't see him 
switching up and running racks or a rando build. He was famously ornery and 
I think he had his system right where he wanted it. He'd tour with a 
Carradice and stayed in hotels along the way (many with friends and 
families he'd met in the 1950s). 

As for frame material, this is of course a guess, but I'd wager he'd stick 
with steel. He rode well into the carbon era. As Tom shared in the Radavist 
article today Brandt would get a new frame every few years, worried about 
damage or fractures. He chose yellow paint for his bikes because he thought 
it was the best for highlighting damage. I could see his familiarity with 
steel keeping him on steel frames. And I could see the possibility of 
catastrophic failure keeping him from carbon. 

Regarding helmets, I don't think Brandt ever wore one. He probably shared 
an explanation for this back on rec.bicycles.tech but that's way before my 
time. 

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:55:43 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> True.  I remember those days.  The most you see in one or two of those 
> photos are riders wearing "leather hair nets," except for one who looks 
> like he has a mountaineering helmet.  Another thing I notice is much 
> shorter cycling shorts, probably all wool with a natural chamois crotch.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:31:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> Those pictures were taken before helmets were commonly available. During 
>> Bikecentennial helmets were rare. Steve
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 4:20 PM lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> One thing I notice in those photos is that no one was wearing a helmet.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a nod 
 to current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier gearing. As a 
 result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you spliced 
 his timeline and moved his prime days to current day. 

 Today's Radavist 
 
  article 
 really fueled that question so I'd like to open it up to this group who 
 likely have much more insight into the man and his bike(s). 

 What are we thinking? Rim brakes or disc? Carbon? Steel? Ti? I see a 
 lot of similarities between him and Jan Heine as far as a desire for 
 performance and reliability, so perhaps he'd lean towards a rando build?  

 Take it away if you wish, 
 Andrew

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[RBW] Re: For sale: Vintage Rivendell tee shirt

[Eric Marth]

Sold, thanks!

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:58:06 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> [image: IMG_5005.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_5011.JPG]
>
> Here's an old Rivendell tee. Size is labeled XL, it's big and boxy. Pit to 
> pit is 24.5", overall length is 29.5". Small fleck stain on the front. Some 
> fading to the armpit areas. 
>
> This is a nice Earth Creations tee, made in USA. If you aren't familiar 
> their shirts are pigment dyed and fade beautifully over time. I have a 
> plain solid brown one that's about 15 years old. 
>
> Blue ink, printed front and back. You could get all Jordan Gomez on it and 
> chop the sleeves and crop the waist. 
>
> Price is $40 plus shipping to you. 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> [image: IMG_5006.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_5007.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_5008.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_5009.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_5010.JPG]
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> [image: IMG_5012.JPG]
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[RBW] Re: What's up with welded Nitto parts?

[Eric Marth]

Circles and Blue Lug ship to the US super, super fast. As I mentioned 
recently on iBOB, I typically receive packages from BL and Circles in fewer 
days than I do from Rivendell. 

Sim Works is the in-house brand of Circles, they have stuff custom run 
mostly by other manufacturers, many in Japan. They have a US office in 
Portland, Oregon located inside the Chris King manufacturing warehouse.  

It makes sense to me that these super shops in Japan have an easier time 
stocking Nitto products, especially the odd and esoteric ones. There are 
certain stems, racks and other bits I haven't seen at any US bike shops. 

If you're ever looking for Nitto parts it's always a good idea to check BL 
and Circles. There might be other good shops, too, I just don't know of 
them... yet! 

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:36:53 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> i do not know the exact arrangement, but there seems to be a connection 
> between this Circles shop and Sim.works here in the US, so that you can 
> sometimes find the same item there,.  I've also ordered from them and its 
> pretty well sorted, other than high cost of shipping for some items.  
>
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:29:42 PM UTC-5 jeff dobie wrote:
>
>> I have been looking for a particular Nitto stem for several months with 
>> no luck and some how stumbled on this place in Japan Circles bicycle shop 
>> https://shop.circles-jp.com/en  shipping was only $22 and they shipped 
>> right away via fedex
>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:37:21 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> The way I read it - a completely wild guess - is the supply has been 
>>> terrible for years and most of it has gotten too pricey to try to sell. Riv 
>>> has been slowly replacing everything welded with cheaper/more plentiful 
>>> options, I imagine they're going to keep the forged stems and that's about 
>>> it. Guessing! 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 2:28:29 PM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Anyone know what's going on here???

 From Will's January update email...

  *Anything Nitto makes that's welded might get scarce soon. We still 
 have big back racks, fillet stems, bullmoose bars, 32F mini front racks, 
 brake hangers, and lugged stems and posts; If you've been eyeing something 
 on that list, I'd get it now.*

 That's kind of scary! Nitto parts are my favs.

 JohnS

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Lambda Add-ons

[Eric Marth]

Hmm, seems like satisfying my curiosity will cost about $15! 

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-5 Calvin Yolo wrote:

> My guess is that it's meant for people who already have these pedals and 
> desire something a bit longer and wider. Judging by the photo I don't think 
> there are too many quality pedals that are as long as these modded ones.
>
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 11:13:29 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I don't really understand modding a pedal when there are so many stock 
>> pedals that will work without modifications. It's one thing if the pedal 
>> market is devoid of a good pedal but there are tons of great light and 
>> large flat pedals with good grip.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:54:22 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> i saw a note in the latest email that mentioned these wings do work with 
>>> the lambda version.  
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
 The wings ought to work just fine on the non-monarch models as the only 
 difference, as far as I'm aware, is the addition of the pins from the 
 factory rather than diy. The construction of the pedal appears the same, 
 and it would be silly to change it. 

 I never gave these a second though as-is because they're very narrow, 
 not for large feet with shoe soles that are 4-3/4" wide. I'm curious what 
 the overall width and length of the platform with the wings installed is, 
 and so I'll have to Riv to find that out. I mean, it would make too much 
 sense to simply measure it and post it on the sales page sigh . 
 laughter ..but that all makes sense . nonsense will never make 
 sense. 


 On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 12:02:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
 i'm a little behind on my riv news, can anyone confirm if these will 
 fit the grip king/lamda, non-monarch pedals too?



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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

JohnS — Let us know how it turns out!

Rich — Thanks for the thumbs, Rich. I put a little more effort into the 
still photo documentation this time around, my iPhone 8 just couldn't 
render the metal surface and details. 

Paul — Thank you! I hadn't seen Jen Green's work, thanks for the link. The 
Bontrager is rad! Looks like you put a lot of labor and love into it. A 
proper headbadge always beats a decal!

On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 10:20:00 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Eric,
> I finally got to view your superb YouTube video - wonderfully relaxing! 
> (As well as informative, of course.)
> I loved all the attention you put into the headbadge, too. You may already 
> know, but a gal in Philly, Jen Green, does custom head badges and does a 
> great job. (She works in bronze too, but maybe not brass.)  
> Revolution Cycle Jewelry: 
> https://www.headbadges.com/store/c2/Headbadges.html
> I had her make a Bontrager badge a few years ago for my CX bike that I had 
> Keith Bontrager build for me in 1989. 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/48051561606/in/dateposted-public/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/7215770445842
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
>> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
>> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
>> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
>> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>
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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Mike — Wow, definitely sounds like the same bike I started out with. I 
thought I had some footage of the disassembled bike but I couldn't find any 
when it came time for the edit. Bridgestone called the color "shadow blue" 
in their catalog (here's a link 
 
for reference). The catalog also specs the weight at 32lbs so you're right 
on. Very cool you got Grant to sign it and maybe the new owner has come 
around to checking out the old Bridgestone and Rivendell lore. The gold 
Araya rims are now on an MB-3 from the same year I built up for a friend. 

Paul — Thanks for checking it out! 

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:35:06 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Fantastic Eric. Congrats, nicely done.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
>> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
>> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
>> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
>> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Very cool, Paul, thanks for these pics! I love it, even with the brazer's 
overflowing brass, I'll just take it they were enthusiastic. 

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:44:59 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric,
>
> Yes the Trek 614 main triangle is 531.
>
> Fork took a 70x40 tire on VO rims but rear only a 700x38
> measuring about 37.
>
> I may have my local builder crimp the chainstays and add a pair of bottle 
> bosses.
>
> For the 2nd pair of bosses on the seat tube I'm using the VO clamp on 
> bosses which work pretty well. 
>
> I pulled down the 1991 Schwinn High Plains frame and snapped some pics 
> today to give an idea of the raw finish.
>
> It's still holding up pretty well.
>
> The pics show the builder's brazing skills were a bit on the messy side.
>
> Overall I like the finish. I've considered a powder coat job if rust 
> becomes too prevalent but after about 5.5 years it's still holding up.
>
> I still occasionally spray it down with WD40 or something similar I have 
> on hand. 
>
> I should build it back up but room is an issue.
> How many bikes does one person need?
>
> Safe pedaling,
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Jake! You're the first person to mention the disappearance at the 
end, I couldn't resist making that edit and I'm glad you noticed and 
appreciated! 

Jason, I know you put a lot of thought and work into your many builds, 
thanks for the kind feedback. The raw finish on the Bombadils was a point 
of reference for me with this one, though I didn't go as far as a clear 
powdercoat. I followed through with pretty much every wild idea I had about 
parts and finishes which was pretty satisfying. 

We live about an hour from a city of any notable size and are lucky for the 
shed space! I don't have much documentation but the shed has come a long 
way since we moved in, it's a much more pleasant and useful space. 
Definitely great for projects of all types and hanging out with friends as 
well. There are a few things I'd still like to do out there but it's pretty 
close to good enough. For the most part I edit out all the crap I have 
stored in there :) 

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 2:50:41 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Eric, finally took the time to watch the video and echo everyone's good 
> words! Fun build - it's clear that you've got your 'foundation' bikes in 
> place when building this so you're free to just have fun with it and focus 
> on the vision. I re-watched the Hillborne video afterwards too, which is a 
> great vid also, and it really underlined how while each of your builds have 
> been thoughtfully curated (and very much in line with my interests!), the 
> MB build is really all about functional art. Like all good art, it evokes 
> an emotional response upon viewing, but with the added dimension that it 
> can transport you to another time just by riding it. 
>
> Also, I am very impressed/jealous of your shop. It makes me want to move 
> out of the city so I can have the space for something like that!  
>
> On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 07:28:19 UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Another great build and popcorn-worthy video.  Loved the disappearing act 
>> at the end!  The extra small touches that go into your efforts are really 
>> enjoyable.   Superbe!
>>
>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 9:09:58 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, David!
>>>
>>> JohnS — Ah, a Quickbeam build. That sounds great. I rode one around a 
>>> suburban cul-de-sac a few years ago but it hadn't been maintained and the 
>>> brakes didn't work so I didn't really get a very good feel for it. 
>>>
>>> I like this housing, I like the look, the colors it comes in, the 
>>> simplicity. Crust, Sim Works and Circles all stock it. I'll probably use it 
>>> again in the future. I'm not familiar with the Jagwire pro-slick but I used 
>>> Jagwire gray housing on my Rivs, a Bridgestone MB-3 and the mixte I built 
>>> up. I bought the Sim Works stuff primarily driven by the look, bright 
>>> stainless, no writing or branding, and knew that if it was made by Nissen 
>>> for Sim Works it likely was very good quality. Make sure you run them brake 
>>> cables nice and long! I ran mine too short the first time and ended up 
>>> using all the housing and just barely had enough to finish. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 8:49:01 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Hello Eric,

 How do you like the  Sim Works x Nissen brake housing? I'm thinking of 
 using the clear on my Quickbeam (also trying to minimize black on the 
 build), would be the same Superbe brake levers (from my '83 expedition) 
 and 
 Paul brakes, except the front will be the mini-mottos. Usually I use 
 Jagwire pro-slick cables and housings, kind of spoiled by them.

 Thank you!
 JohnS

 On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 4:17:47 PM UTC-5 David Pulsipher 
 wrote:

> beautiful work Eric - thank you for sharing with us!
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 4:06:27 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the 
>> fork 
>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss 
>> to 
>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications 
>> of patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer 
>> and 
>> wax. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, 

[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, David!

JohnS — Ah, a Quickbeam build. That sounds great. I rode one around a 
suburban cul-de-sac a few years ago but it hadn't been maintained and the 
brakes didn't work so I didn't really get a very good feel for it. 

I like this housing, I like the look, the colors it comes in, the 
simplicity. Crust, Sim Works and Circles all stock it. I'll probably use it 
again in the future. I'm not familiar with the Jagwire pro-slick but I used 
Jagwire gray housing on my Rivs, a Bridgestone MB-3 and the mixte I built 
up. I bought the Sim Works stuff primarily driven by the look, bright 
stainless, no writing or branding, and knew that if it was made by Nissen 
for Sim Works it likely was very good quality. Make sure you run them brake 
cables nice and long! I ran mine too short the first time and ended up 
using all the housing and just barely had enough to finish. 

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 8:49:01 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:

> Hello Eric,
>
> How do you like the  Sim Works x Nissen brake housing? I'm thinking of 
> using the clear on my Quickbeam (also trying to minimize black on the 
> build), would be the same Superbe brake levers (from my '83 expedition) and 
> Paul brakes, except the front will be the mini-mottos. Usually I use 
> Jagwire pro-slick cables and housings, kind of spoiled by them.
>
> Thank you!
> JohnS
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 4:17:47 PM UTC-5 David Pulsipher wrote:
>
>> beautiful work Eric - thank you for sharing with us!
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 4:06:27 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
>>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
>>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork 
>>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to 
>>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>>
>>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>>
>>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>>
>>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>>
>>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>>
>>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>>
>>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>>
>>> Larger pictures here: 
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Ted, James and John. 

Paul, I'd be curious to see any pics of the finish on the Schwinn. 

The 614 looks fun, Reynolds tubes there? Seems like you fit a decent amount 
of rubber, too. 

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 1:27:42 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
> Hi Eric,
>
> I also enjoyed seeing your new project.
>
> Nicely done!
>
> It's great to see these vintage frames brought back to the vision the 
> 'artist' has for them.
>
> You are a definitely an 'artist' at this in my view.
>
> I enjoy tinkering with a variety of vintage frames also.
>
> Even though I thoroughly enjoy my Sam Hillborne
> from time to time I get bored for another project bike and search the ads 
> for what I think is a worthy frame at a modest price
>
>
> Although seemingly not as popular as the Bridgestone MB series I picked up 
> a 1990 CB Zip some months back and built it back up to my preferences.
>
> It's a fun bike.
> Currently it's sporting Rat Traps although that rear one is a very tight 
> fit.
>
> On the raw finish front,
>  a couple years back I stripped down to bare metal an early 90s Schwinn 
> High Plains mtb
> and built it back up.
>
> I rode it for a while, maybe a year, and then transfered parts over to 
> another bike.
>
> It's still hanging in my garage.
> I soaked it down ever few months with WD 40 or a cheap knock off and 
> surprisingly it stayed mostly rust free.
>
> I should check the current state of it.
>
> I looked into several metal stain products but never applied any to it.
>
> The look of your MB2 is certainly appealing.
>
> My recent fun build a couple weeks back is this 1982 Trek 614. I love how 
> it rides.
>
> Safe riding on your new build and thanks for sharing it with the list.
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Eric Marth]

I've never ridden one of these frames but olde Tall Paul brought one along 
for our overnighter back in the fall. 

The Blue Lug galleries are always a great place to draw inspiration, such 
clean and well-appointed bikes and their Rivendell builds are some of the 
best around!

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:21:26 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gorgeous Gus build, Ronald! You can definitely see the Blue Lug influence! 
> Your rig looks very comfortable and practical. I love it.
> My Gus is my first Rivendell as well... welcome to the club!
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 1:32 PM Ronald Halili  wrote:
>
>> First time Riv owner here sharing pics of my Gus build. I had lots of 
>> inspiration from the Blue Lug website 
>> . I have only rode 
>> it a few miles though and still trying to get the squeal out of the brakes. 
>> So far so fun!
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nWnCevTy8pV3AKNZ7
>> [image: IMG_3291.JPG]
>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:59:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Richard, that is a fine and lovely bicycle. Enjoy! 
>>>
>>> Joe "I want one" Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You all are right. I just got my wheels / tires and got my first good 
 look at this rig in person. The bb is much higher than I anticipated - 
 within 1/2 centimeter of my full suspension MTB (for sale:)).
 This beast should be a hoot.
 [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 10, 2023, at 9:12 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:

 I run a 172 on my Susie and it is plenty high with the 2.5” for some 
 pretty chunky terrain. I have a 170 on my Clem with 2” and it is about an 
 inch lower. These bikes are so long that I understand wanting a bit more 
 clearance but if a 170 is comfortable I think the bike is high enough to 
 pedal through anything these bikes can pedal through. I’m still getting 
 used to the Susie as a mountain bike really. Chunky climbs are tough for 
 me 
 because if I get off the seat at all, instant loss of traction. Pedal 
 strikes hasn’t been an issue at all though. 



 On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:58:06 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Fair point(s). As you can imagine, the full suspension bike has a 
> pretty high bb, though not as high as current comparable bikes. I rarely 
> experienced pedal strokes even pedaling through stuff that at my age I 
> probably should not be doing!:)
> I just looked at available solutions & thought it might be beneficial 
> to shorten the cranks on the Gus to approximate the clearance I enjoyed 
> on 
> the suspension bike. To do so would require a 550mm crank arm.
> To be honest, I had one particular & disconcerting pedal strike riding 
> the Clem that really got my attention. This was a very familiar sweeping 
> turn but off camber section that I always pedal through. The pedal dug 
> into 
> the uphill side of the bank & I nearly crashed. It was just so 
> unexpected. 
> I’ve accepted the notion that I may have to ride a bit slower & less 
> aggressive than I am used to. But to the degree that I can minimize these 
> things with the right choice now seems smart.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 8:01 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I understand your intent to avoid crank or pedal contact, but 
> personally I wouldn’t base my crank length on the potential for pedal 
> strikes on rocks and roots. In this case, I would fall into the camp of 
> being conscious of the terrain, refining your technique, and being 
> mindful 
> of your own personal skill level. If you’re getting lots of strikes with 
> say, a 170mm or 165mm crank, I wouldn’t be confident that going even 
> shorter than that is going to necessarily solve your issue.
>
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 7:45 AM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
> Legit question. I am moving from a full suspension trail bike to the 
> Gus. I have ridden my Clem (27.5 x 2.25) with 173mm cranks and have been 
> reminded of how alarming pedal strokes can be! But, I really enjoy the 
> trail experience on the Clem otherwise. I realize the Gus has a slightly 
> higher BB than the Clem & the Gus is 29 x 2.6. So yes, I am trying to be 
> mitigate possible problems. I like the Silver crank on the Clem but I 
> will 
> likely use a 165mm Crank on the Gus. But, I am watching with keen 
> interest 
> the increasing availability of even shorter cranks.
> And yes, I know technique comes into play here, and I am looking 
> forward to refining mine.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 12:01 AM, iamkeith  wrote:
>
> 
>
> On Monday, January 9, 

[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Greg — The house paint on your MB-2 reminds me of an MB-3 I picked up at 
the end of 2021. Mine was in much worse shape overall. And I paid too much 
for it. The tires wouldn't hold air, the brakes and shifters didn't work, 
chain was rusted and, as I later found out, the steerer tube was bent and 
the fork crown was *twisted*. There was silver spray paint on the 
handlebars, brake levers and overspray on the head tube. There was black 
spray paint on the rear rack and overspray on the rear cable hanger. What a 
mess. 

Yours looks great in both iterations. Nice job blasting it and on the 
repaint. It looks great with all the clean and vintage parts and I'm sure 
it's tons of fun to ride. How did you get all that stack in the headset? On 
the '85s I've worked on there is room for a super low stack headset and 
zero spacers. 

Stephen — Thanks for checking it out, that was definitely part of the build 
I wanted to share with people as I'd never seen it done myself. Working on 
the steel wall sounds fun, I was thinking a little bit about Richard 
Serra's sculptures when I was coming up with the patina colors I wanted. 

The ride is good so far and feels different than my other bikes. Drops, 
smaller frame, longer wheelbase and lower trail than my Hillborne make it 
feel planted, nice on the descents, more reactive up front and it sometimes 
feels like I can lay down more power. I'm getting used to the shapes of the 
brake levers, the short ramps on the new bars and shifting (every 
mech/shifter combo is a little different). I still need to take it out for 
a long ride. 

Enjoy your next build! 
On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:54:16 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> Eric! Done it again, looks great! 
>
> I really dug seeing your process with patina-ing the steel and brass bits. 
> Reminds of a residential construction project I worked on that had a steel 
> retaining wall that was treated (maybe with a similar acid wash.. not sure) 
> to accelerate the rusting/patina. It turned a really nice purple. The 
> intentional metal oxidation plus the thoughtfulness/cleanness of the build 
> creates a really beautiful dynamic. I agree silver parts just look right on 
> this bike.
>
> How are you liking it and the ride so far? How does it compare to your 
> hillborne and appaloosa? Planning to take it on some overnighters? Anything 
> you wish you had done differently?
>
> Definitely giving me the bug to do another bike build myself... hopefully 
> sometime soon.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stephen
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:02:55 PM UTC-5 Greg Simmons wrote:
>
>> Eric, 
>>
>> Very nicely done! Provides a great example of the vast continuum of 
>> choices available when you approach a build. I really need to make the leap 
>> to a generator hub; the lighting looks great also! This one especially 
>> spoke to me, as I found an MB/2 some years back that eventually also became 
>> a project (In 1988, it was MB/2, not MB-2, strangely enough). It's been my 
>> daily commuter for  six years come February. Where did those 6 years 
>> go? *Tempus fugit, vita brevis, ars longa,* all that. Not that it is 
>> anything special, but if you wanted to compare to your '85, here's an album 
>> link that I hope will work and not make a mess: 1988 Bridgestone MB/2 
>> 
>>
>> Thanks for sharing, much enjoyed the video (and the earlier ones)!
>>
>> Greg Simmons
>> Boone, NC
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
>>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
>>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork 
>>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to 
>>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>>
>>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>>
>>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>>
>>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB2 09 SM 

[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for having a look Jim, Ryan, Eliot and Reginald!

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 12:05:46 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Nice build! Very well thought out. Nice video on the build also. Been 
> looking at bike builds on YouTube. Yours is one of the better ones. Have 
> fun on it. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
>> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
>> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
>> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
>> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

I posted a bad link to the Google Drive folder with bigger pics. 

This should work.  
<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CLvaH5AXrj-6fPuVO_LpF4I0WJ3GCcxv?usp=sharing>

Thanks again!

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 7:19:56 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Thanks, David! 
>
> Eric: Sorry, not for sale!
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:28:40 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Price?
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2023, at 3:17 PM, David Hays <23wr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Beautiful build!
>>
>> David Hays
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2023, at 6:08 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Here are some close-ups I took once I discovered the "macro" mode on my 
>> partner's ancient Nikon DSLR: 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
>>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
>>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork 
>>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to 
>>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>>
>>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax.
>>>  
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>>
>>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>>
>>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>>
>>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>>
>>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>>
>>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>>
>>&

Re: [RBW] New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, David! 

Eric: Sorry, not for sale!

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:28:40 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Price?
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Jan 23, 2023, at 3:17 PM, David Hays <23wr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Beautiful build!
>
> David Hays
>
> On Jan 23, 2023, at 6:08 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Here are some close-ups I took once I discovered the "macro" mode on my 
> partner's ancient Nikon DSLR: 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
>> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
>> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
>> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
>> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax.
>>  
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Exploration: Make your own pump peg

[Eric Marth]

Nice, Luke. I agree, having a black frame pump between the tubes on a 
double top tube Atlantis interferes with the nice lines. 

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 1:56:38 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> [image: B372A765-5F4B-42DE-A241-4387D0682850.jpeg]
> I like the use of an alt mount option even though I have a pump peg on 
> mine. I love the double tubing of the Atlantis and don’t want it crowded 
> with a pump. 
> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 11:01:26 AM UTC-8 J C wrote:
>
>> I like the QR idea.
>>
>> However, on my 2020 Appaloosa the dropout design prevents a shimano QR 
>> lever from easily closing at an angle other than forward or backward, 
>> approximately level to the ground.
>>
>> Curious if a similar design is used on other newish models?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 12:15:46 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like these solutions Nick, Kim and Andy. 
>>>
>>> Absent a pump peg mount I do think that using the QR skewer is the best, 
>>> so elegant and minimal. I read about that on iBOB and it really got me. 
>>> Then I forgot about it. I'll have to see if I can make that work. 
>>>
>>> Wes: It's not necessarily better! It's just an idea I executed to see if 
>>> it would work. I definitely prefer the brazed-on pump peg. That said, there 
>>> might be some interference between the front derailer cable and the pump 
>>> when mounted behind the seat tube. I actually can't tell. Haven't had any 
>>> shifting issues but I can't get a good line of sight and have been too lazy 
>>> to crawl under the bike or flip it over to truly investigate. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 2:39:54 AM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 Ingenious solutions all around.
 Full marks!
 k.

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 9:48 PM Wesley  wrote:

> This is cool, Eric - but how is it better than using the pump peg that 
> was so thoughtfully brazed onto your frame?
> -Wes
>
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 7:05:38 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I read Will's post about how to make your own pump peg on the Blug a 
>> long while back: 
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/185595499869/how-to-make-your-own-pump-pegs
>>
>> You take a p-clamp, some spacers and modify a Nitto strut and you've 
>> got a pump peg somewhere you might not have had one before. Will likes 
>> to 
>> put his in the rear triangle and you'll notice them mounted this way on 
>> a 
>> lot of his bikes.  
>>
>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt3zzjpbXk1qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt401jwzC21qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>>
>> This is great, I love it, cool hack! But I've always wanted for a 
>> version that doesn't require tracking down and destroying a Nitto strut. 
>> Riv HQ is probably awash in Nitto struts and they have em poking out of 
>> the 
>> coffee cans on everyone's desk all over the place. But not so for me, 
>> Nitto 
>> struts are precious few in my shed. 
>>
>> I think I came up with the right shape and this weekend I picked up 
>> an electrical ring terminal in the 10-12 size, yellow sleeve. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-17 at 9.56.39 PM.png][image: Screen Shot 
>> 2023-01-17 at 9.56.44 PM.png]
>>
>> Holding the ring end with one pair of pliers you can easily remove 
>> the yellow sleeve with a second pair of pliers. A pack of 15 is $4.50. 
>> If 
>> your local hardware store has a bulk/loose hardware section you can get 
>> one 
>> for around 55¢ (at least I did). 
>>
>> Paired with a 3/8" insulated cable clamp (2 for $2.20), a few 
>> serrated brake washers, an M5 bolt and a nylock nut I had a fashioned a 
>> pump peg. Didn't have to cut or shape any metal or destroy any high-end 
>> Japanese rack struts. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_4875.JPG]
>>
>> [image: IMG_4874.JPG]
>>
>> I have yet to SUPER TEST this out but wanted to share all the same. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Exploration: Make your own pump peg

[Eric Marth]

How do you like them Mafac tandems? I like those hangers, good looking 
hangers. Wish I had some. 

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 7:33:39 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Nice, Luke. I agree, having a black frame pump between the tubes on a 
> double top tube Atlantis interferes with the nice lines. 
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 1:56:38 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> [image: B372A765-5F4B-42DE-A241-4387D0682850.jpeg]
>> I like the use of an alt mount option even though I have a pump peg on 
>> mine. I love the double tubing of the Atlantis and don’t want it crowded 
>> with a pump. 
>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 11:01:26 AM UTC-8 J C wrote:
>>
>>> I like the QR idea.
>>>
>>> However, on my 2020 Appaloosa the dropout design prevents a shimano QR 
>>> lever from easily closing at an angle other than forward or backward, 
>>> approximately level to the ground.
>>>
>>> Curious if a similar design is used on other newish models?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 12:15:46 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like these solutions Nick, Kim and Andy. 
>>>>
>>>> Absent a pump peg mount I do think that using the QR skewer is the 
>>>> best, so elegant and minimal. I read about that on iBOB and it really got 
>>>> me. Then I forgot about it. I'll have to see if I can make that work. 
>>>>
>>>> Wes: It's not necessarily better! It's just an idea I executed to see 
>>>> if it would work. I definitely prefer the brazed-on pump peg. That said, 
>>>> there might be some interference between the front derailer cable and the 
>>>> pump when mounted behind the seat tube. I actually can't tell. Haven't had 
>>>> any shifting issues but I can't get a good line of sight and have been too 
>>>> lazy to crawl under the bike or flip it over to truly investigate. 
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 2:39:54 AM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ingenious solutions all around.
>>>>> Full marks!
>>>>> k.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 9:48 PM Wesley  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is cool, Eric - but how is it better than using the pump peg 
>>>>>> that was so thoughtfully brazed onto your frame?
>>>>>> -Wes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 7:05:38 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read Will's post about how to make your own pump peg on the Blug a 
>>>>>>> long while back: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/185595499869/how-to-make-your-own-pump-pegs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You take a p-clamp, some spacers and modify a Nitto strut and you've 
>>>>>>> got a pump peg somewhere you might not have had one before. Will likes 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> put his in the rear triangle and you'll notice them mounted this way on 
>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>> lot of his bikes.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt3zzjpbXk1qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>>>>>>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt401jwzC21qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is great, I love it, cool hack! But I've always wanted for a 
>>>>>>> version that doesn't require tracking down and destroying a Nitto 
>>>>>>> strut. 
>>>>>>> Riv HQ is probably awash in Nitto struts and they have em poking out of 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> coffee cans on everyone's desk all over the place. But not so for me, 
>>>>>>> Nitto 
>>>>>>> struts are precious few in my shed. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I came up with the right shape and this weekend I picked up 
>>>>>>> an electrical ring terminal in the 10-12 size, yellow sleeve. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-17 at 9.56.39 PM.png][image: Screen 
>>>>>>> Shot 2023-01-17 at 9.56.44 PM.png]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Holding the ring end with one pair of pliers you can easily remove 
>>>>>>> the yellow sleeve with a second pair of pliers. A pack of 15 is $4.50. 
>

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul home polish

[Eric Marth]

Keith: They're not as good as the ones polished at Paul. Mine are good 
enough for me. Not sure why there's a slightly uneven surface (kinda 
pitted!) on the black ones. 

Brendon: Got the video roughed in today, it's about 75% done. 

Tom: See my link above to the previous thread on de-anodizing. 

Laing makes a good point, sometimes stuff isn't available in the finish you 
want. 

Also, Laing: The beauty of the brass is the deep patina! 

I already had the Paul brakes, purchased used. I was interested to learn a 
new process rather than purchase more parts. I much prefer the finish of a 
component that's gone from polished to dull rather than the dull/clear 
anodizing from Paul. And black parts aren't for me, though I picked some up 
years ago before my tastes and opinions had developed. For me it's not 
about having and maintaining a perfect finish. 

Eliot: You could likely clear coat or wax your parts to add a little 
resistance to the finish. If you call Paul and ask how they seal their 
polished parts I'm sure they'll tell you. With enough use and exposure all 
polished stuff dulls over time, hence this group and the iBOBs' interest in 
Simichrome and other metal polishes for older bicycle parts. 



On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:17:33 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can you get the finished product clear coated to help with longevity?
>
> How does Paul treat their factory polished version ?
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 1:03 PM lconley  wrote:
>
>> You are assuming that all anodized parts are available without anodizing, 
>> which it not true for all parts. 
>>
>> Note that most colored anodizing is temporary also, the anodizing fades 
>> over time. Easy and cheap to restore polished parts, anodized parts - not 
>> so much.
>>
>> Black parts show wear and scratches much more than silver.
>>
>> Even the best silver/clear anodizing wears off. I have a well used 50 
>> year old Campagnolo triple crank that has lost its anodizing in many 
>> locations, I am sure glad that it isn't black, it would look awful.
>>
>> I would not consider polished aluminum parts high maintenance, many go 
>> for years before needing a quick rub with Simichrome and then they are like 
>> new.
>>
>> You want a high maintenance finish - I have a set of brass Honjo fenders 
>> for you. One end of the fender tarnishes as you are polishing the other end.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 1:43:14 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I’m with Garth - if you’ve got anodized parts you’d like to make silver… 
>>> arrange a trade!
>>>
>>> Philip
>>>  
>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:29:05 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>>
 While I don't have any Paul brakes, over Life I've had plenty of 
 aluminum parts that were of a natural, untreated finish. You can polish 
 them all you like, but it doesn't last every long until they require more 
 polishing. The polishing is an attempt to seal the exterior, to create a 
 "buffer" from the elements, so to speak. It's high maintenance for sure as 
 it's only temporary.  The durable hard anodizing manufacturers use is a 
 chemical process and as long they're not exposed to excessive corrosive 
 elements the finish remains indefinitely. Once that finish is removed, 
 there's no going back, they are back to their natural untreated state. A 
 sure way to tell the finish of any aluminum part is to rub it with a clean 
 rag or even your hands as it will leave that telltale gray residue. 

 As far as I'm concerned if a part is finished black, or anodized a dull 
 silver, I leave it alone, or don't buy it in the first place if I can't 
 live it as purchased. There can be a few exceptions, notably if it's 
 something tiny. Surely though, I see black and silver parts as 
 complimentary rather than conflicting. 
 On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 6:41:43 PM UTC-5 brendonoid wrote:

>
> *"The other set of cantis are on a new build I just finished."*
>
> Whoa, hold up! What a teaser, I can't wait.
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[RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eric Marth]

Nice job Jake!

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 10:41:20 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:

> Looks great Jake! Congrats on your first build, seems like you have a 
> knack for it.
>
> Enjoy,
> JohnS
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:31:06 AM UTC-5 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Done!
>>
>> No one was hurt in the process, thankfully!  It goes, stops, and actually 
>> shifts.  What fun.   My reflections are that I know I took about 10 times 
>> longer to build this than was necessary, but I enjoyed every minute.  Very 
>> little profanity was used, hardly any at all.  The derailer hanger was out 
>> about, say, 5-10 degrees out of the box, so that was an easy adjustment 
>> with the expensive Park tool that I may never use again.  :-)   I was able 
>> to find Shimano instructions for the Nexave online, so that was super 
>> helpful.  I still need to dial the shifting in, but it works beautifully in 
>> friction mode.  It's a mess in index mode.  I think I have my answer 
>> there.  Keep it in friction.  Right.  Getting the FD dialed in was much 
>> more finicky than I anticipated.
>>
>> Where's Kim?  Hey Kim, the Selle Anatomica rocks!  Right out of the box 
>> super comfort.   I'm definitely joining the club.  I am going to kick my 
>> old B-17 to the curb.  And the big H stamped on the saddle matches with 
>> Hillborne!  Bonus.  I am going to hold off on the shellac as the Newbaum 
>> feels great naked.  If it gets gnarly over time it's easy enough to 
>> rewrap.  I might hit up the twine with some shellac though.  I might also 
>> swap out those black DXR brake handles for some expensive Paul's as I am 
>> not sure I like the black.  They sure do work well, though.  The Albatross 
>> looks huge in this picture, but not so much in reality.  It's a keeper - 
>> super comfortable.  Body positioning is very neutral on this upright 
>> configuration. Love the platform of the pedals.  I tried to keep the 
>> obnoxious blue to a minimum while accenting it.  That's an Air Force blue 
>> if anyone was wondering.
>>
>> Needs a rack or two, undecided on fenders (toe clearance), and a cool 
>> matching stowaway bag from Tunitas is on it's way.  Time to re-torque 
>> everything and go for a nice long ride.
>>
>> [image: Silver Sam.JPG]
>>
>> Last night when I finished it.  Cockpit view.
>>
>> [image: SH Cockpit.JPG]
>>
>> Fun stuff!
>>
>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 8:59:39 AM UTC-5 Slacky Mac wrote:
>>
>>> Have you looked at the SimWorks "Obento" rack?
>>>
>>> Hi David, yes I did.  Jess (of Tunitas) directed me to the Obento after 
>>> I inquired what that beautiful rack was on her bike pictured on the Riv 
>>> site.  Sadly, not the same aesthetic as the Potluck.  Similar function 
>>> though.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 3:34:11 AM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>
 Have you looked at the SimWorks "Obento" rack?
https://www.sim.works/products/obento-rack
 Pricey, but the "shiny" version seems to be in stock!

 David Lipsky
 Berkeley, CA
 On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:

> “Any changes in parts and such while thinking over the build?”
>
> Reginald - yes, a few!   I switched to bar ends as thumbie mounts were 
> temporarily out of stock and I was impatient.  Lots of downstream effects 
> from that one.  I originally wanted to go with Ergon cork grips with 
> something like a Billie or a Crumworks bar.  I’ll see if the bar-ends on 
> my 
> old Albatross and prodigious use of Newbaums works.  It’ll be creative 
> (nice word for obviously DIY).  If it’s not comfy, easy enough to make a 
> change.
>
> With the gigantic pedals, I am concerned with toe-to-tire spacing, so 
> am holding off on fenders.  Also no decision on racks. Crushed that the 
> Nitto Potluck rack is NLA.
>
> Getting there.  Riv box delivered today, more work this weekend. 
>  Assuming the Nexave derailer doesn’t derail me, should be finished up 
> and 
> ready to ride.  (Whoa that’s a big photo - sorry). 
>
> Jake
>
> [image: A00698B8-FA9B-4BE4-8582-253D37FDB4B9.jpeg]
>
>
> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:46:21 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>
>> Congratulations How exciting when the planning and futzing over 
>> the bike and parts finally come together. Any changes in parts and such 
>> while thinking over the build? I know when I built the Rivendell 
>> Mountain I 
>> went back and forth on several items. Thought of doing an 8 speed 
>> freewheel, but it seemed much when accounting for the hub set up and 
>> scarcity of 8 speed freewheels. Planned on doing a Nitto built Ritchey 
>> stem, but going with the Softride suspension stem was a strong pull. 
>>
>> Take it slow, don't supper force anything. Take it easy with the 
>> hammer! Lol!!!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Reginald Alexis
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Exploration: Make your own pump peg

[Eric Marth]

I like these solutions Nick, Kim and Andy. 

Absent a pump peg mount I do think that using the QR skewer is the best, so 
elegant and minimal. I read about that on iBOB and it really got me. Then I 
forgot about it. I'll have to see if I can make that work. 

Wes: It's not necessarily better! It's just an idea I executed to see if it 
would work. I definitely prefer the brazed-on pump peg. That said, there 
might be some interference between the front derailer cable and the pump 
when mounted behind the seat tube. I actually can't tell. Haven't had any 
shifting issues but I can't get a good line of sight and have been too lazy 
to crawl under the bike or flip it over to truly investigate. 

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 2:39:54 AM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:

> Ingenious solutions all around.
> Full marks!
> k.
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 9:48 PM Wesley  wrote:
>
>> This is cool, Eric - but how is it better than using the pump peg that 
>> was so thoughtfully brazed onto your frame?
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 7:05:38 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I read Will's post about how to make your own pump peg on the Blug a 
>>> long while back: 
>>>
>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/185595499869/how-to-make-your-own-pump-pegs
>>>
>>> You take a p-clamp, some spacers and modify a Nitto strut and you've got 
>>> a pump peg somewhere you might not have had one before. Will likes to put 
>>> his in the rear triangle and you'll notice them mounted this way on a lot 
>>> of his bikes.  
>>>
>>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt3zzjpbXk1qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt401jwzC21qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>>>
>>> This is great, I love it, cool hack! But I've always wanted for a 
>>> version that doesn't require tracking down and destroying a Nitto strut. 
>>> Riv HQ is probably awash in Nitto struts and they have em poking out of the 
>>> coffee cans on everyone's desk all over the place. But not so for me, Nitto 
>>> struts are precious few in my shed. 
>>>
>>> I think I came up with the right shape and this weekend I picked up an 
>>> electrical ring terminal in the 10-12 size, yellow sleeve. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-17 at 9.56.39 PM.png][image: Screen Shot 
>>> 2023-01-17 at 9.56.44 PM.png]
>>>
>>> Holding the ring end with one pair of pliers you can easily remove the 
>>> yellow sleeve with a second pair of pliers. A pack of 15 is $4.50. If your 
>>> local hardware store has a bulk/loose hardware section you can get one for 
>>> around 55¢ (at least I did). 
>>>
>>> Paired with a 3/8" insulated cable clamp (2 for $2.20), a few serrated 
>>> brake washers, an M5 bolt and a nylock nut I had a fashioned a pump peg. 
>>> Didn't have to cut or shape any metal or destroy any high-end Japanese rack 
>>> struts. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4875.JPG]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4874.JPG]
>>>
>>> I have yet to SUPER TEST this out but wanted to share all the same. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eric Marth]

Looks like fun, Jake! Keep us posted ✌️

It's nice to see one of those old Nexave rapid risers going to use. 

Where did you pick up that Nissen housing? I just used some on a build. 

I think I have a royal blue safety triangle from Blue Lug, brand new. I'd 
trade for that silver one if you're interested. And no big deal if not 
:) 

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 9:04:31 AM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've never 
> built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be a 
> Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>  Fun thread! Be sure to post more photos as it comes together!
>
> Normally I'm excited to build my own bikes, but I am having my new Sam and 
> its parts shipped to The Cub House in San Marino, CA. The bike is going to 
> live at my daughter's, about a mile from The Cub House, and I'm really 
> pleased they'll do the build for me. Mine is Lime Olive and will feature 
> plenty of little brass bits, along with the olive cable housing from 
> SimWorks. Drop bar build, because that's how I roll.
>
> Ted Durant 
> Milwaukee, WI USA
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[RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Boxy Bag and Nitto F15

[Eric Marth]

Sold, instantly. 

Thanks!

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 12:41:29 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> [image: IMG_4809.jpg]
>
> Hello all — I have a green waxed canvas Baggins Boxy Bag for sale. Asking 
> $125 net to me plus shipping to you. Payment via PayPal Friends & Family or 
> Venmo. Please email me. 
>
> It's well broken in. The fabric is supple, recently re-waxed. Included are 
> the four black plastic cord locks that came with the bag. Absent is a piece 
> of shock cord originally issued. See below for shock cord installation 
> instructions. 
>
> To hold a boxy shape I've installed a few pieces of coroplast. I'll leave 
> them installed and you can scrap them if you want. 
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
> [image: IMG_4808.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_4810 2.jpg]
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-13 at 12.19.31 PM.png]
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-13 at 12.40.58 PM.png]
>
> [image: BoxyBagInstructions.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Eric Marth]

Paul brakes are worth it. 

If you buy, try and decide you don't like them you can sell them for close 
to what you paid!

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-5 Jay Riley wrote:

> PS: I'll always keep hydro brakes on the dual-suspension mtn bike.  
> They're cool!  The braking assignment is short, severe braking loads, as 
> opposed to braking loads on a road or touring bike.
>
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:44 PM Jay Riley  wrote:
>
>> "the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls" has sent me back 
>> to cables and calipers on 2 of my bikes.  Especially if I'm in hilly and 
>> mountainous terrain, especially especially when touring with moderate loads 
>> (35lbs) in that terrain, disc-brake pads wear out way faster than ol' 
>> fashioned brake pads.  Hydraulic discs are super easy to squeeze and 
>> modulate, and although my thumbs are already arthritic I can still stop 
>> just fine w'cable brakes.  
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, good to know.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried (stock on 
 new bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally greater on the 
 road 
 but not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls. Your 
 results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride. 

 Joe Bernard 

 On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the 
> Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was just 
> talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers would 
> be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.
>
> The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson <
> philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike 
>> around, but went with yet another canti-post bike (a Bruce Gordon, 
>> woot!). 
>>
>
>> Philip 
>> Sonoma County, Calif (did it really just stop raining?) 
>>
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[RBW] Re: HUGE Rivendell archive update: Catalogs, flyers, brochures and more

[Eric Marth]

Hi Kim — Yes, that's all of them. Big thanks to Marty Gierke for scanning 
all of them :) 

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 8:45:51 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Is this all of the BOB Gazettes ?
> http://notfine.com/rivendell/BOB-Gazette/
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:16:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It sure would be great to have all the BoB Gazettes scanned and archived!
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 10:55:42 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>
>>> Some rare BOB Gazettes popped up today and I made an offer, but the 
>>> seller pulled the listing. Issues 5,6 and 7 would have been fun to have and 
>>> scan. I hope they will re-surface here. I grabbed a few front page screen 
>>> shots - better than nothing, and kind of a tease. Issue 6 talks about 
>>> keeping BOB on life support. Issue 7 (the last?) hints at a business making 
>>> "BOBcyles". This was late 1994...Rivendell was about to emerge. 
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> [image: s-l1600.jpeg]
>>> [image: dfsdfg.jpeg]
>>> [image: fawerr.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 12:49:58 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all -- Quick update: I've scanned some additional material and Reed 
 has added it to the Rivendell archive at http://notfine.com/rivendell

 Brochures

- Rivendell Safety Sheet
- Sam Hillborne brochure
- The Rivendell Frame booklet 2002

 Flyers

- 2000 Hiawatha Holidays
- 2008 Frames
- 2012 Comfort
- 2014 Holiday Handout
- 2017 Holiday Flyer


 On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 10:18:38 AM UTC-4 EricP wrote:

> I have already mailed the Hillborne brochure and the small fold up 
> catalog to Eric for him to scan.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:35:44 AM UTC-5 Cyclofiend Jim 
> wrote:
>
>> Wow. 
>> Eric - that is a wonderful contribution.
>>
>> I don't think I ever got a Cheviot brochure, and I have the Hiawatha 
>> Holidays No. II, but not No. 1
>>
>> I've got a few ephemeral bits and bobs, on my list to scan - just 
>> flipped quickly through my box o' stuff and found:
>> Original Banana Bag instructions (similar in style to the Boxy Bag 
>> instructions), some WoolyWarm stuff, a few one sheets on various bits.  
>> There was also a tiny little fold-up products "catalog" that I have a 
>> few 
>> of. A few paper Atlantis catalog handouts. 
>>
>> - Jim
>>
>> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've spent the last several months scanning my collection of 
>>> Rivendell catalogs, flyers, ads and brochures. 
>>>
>>> Reed, who hosts the archive of Rivendell Readers at 
>>> http://notfine.com/rivreader/, kindly added all of my scans to the 
>>> site. Now there is quite a trove of Rivendell ephemera. 
>>>
>>> He created a new link (the old one still works!): 
>>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/
>>>
>>> Enjoy reading! All of the files are text searchable. If you have 
>>> anything that we haven't included please send me a DM. 
>>>
>>>
>>>- All 20 Rivendell catalogs
>>>   -  Catalogs from 1996-2018
>>>- Frame brochures
>>>   - 1995 frames mailer
>>>   - Atlantis and Atlantis 2
>>>   - Rambouillet
>>>   - Romulus
>>>   - Rivendell Frame Brochure
>>>   - An early frame paint chart
>>>   - *I'm missing the Cheviot brochure*
>>>- Flyers
>>>   - Nine flyers from 2002–2009
>>>   - *I'm missing Hiawatha Holidays No. 1 *
>>>- Ads
>>>   - An add for the reader from Vintage Bicycle Quarterly
>>>   - A 2014 Cheviot ad
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

[Eric Marth]

Takashi — the picture was taken in the evening, returning from a short 
ride. 

Nice snow pics, Dave! 

Paul is right, we generally don't get a lot of snow. We definitely don't 
have snow on the ground all winter. We can get a big storm with a couple of 
feet every few years. Back in 1996 a blizzard rolled through and we were 
out of school for over two weeks. That sort of thing is rare. 

What happens frequently is we get between 3" and 6" and we don't have the 
infrastructure or the driving knowledge to carry on and everyone does 
stupid stuff and they don't know how to drive and it's a real mess. 

Last winter we got a really gross and scary storm. Not a lot of snow but it 
was very wet and heavy, unusual for our part of the country. A lot of stuff 
broke like streetlights and power lines and transformers, which is not 
typical. The snow also stuck to the foliage of evergreen trees in an 
unusual way and many, many trees were felled by the snow accumulation and 
lots of large branches lost. Just after the storm we could hear large 
branches snapping from pine trees at the park nearby, loud explosive 
cracks. The city and residents were still working on cleanup into the early 
summer. 

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 8:04:35 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> A quick little, late afternoon jaunt on the Atlantis today after blowing 
> snow off the driveway. Embracing the winter blues (and greys) with only 
> just enough light to add a hint of color to the scene. At lower elevations, 
> the forest was shrouded in a deep mist as the elk bugled their approval. 
> Cheers, John
> [image: IMG_0207.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:
>
>> We had a little snow yesterday and I made it out this morning while it 
>> was still sticking to the trees.
>>
>> [image: R001-002U8A3871_bridge-1080.jpg]
>> [image: R001-002U8A3891_boardwalk-1080.jpg][image: 
>> R001-002U8A3899_marsh-1080.jpg]
>> [image: R001-002U8A3907_field-1080.jpg]
>> [image: R001-2U8A3917_maple-ridge-1080.jpg]
>>
>> Sorry for the number of photos - the light and scenery was so beautiful.
>> I put a few other photos on instagram: 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CnH82shuu3U/
>>
>> Happy Winter riding!
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:35:13 AM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> Takashi,
>>> To answer your question about snow in Virginia, generally we get less 
>>> than we used to. (No surprise there.) Eric is less than 100 miles north of 
>>> me, but we are both in Eastern/Central Virginia, more or less. The farther 
>>> west in the state, the higher the elevation and that portion gets snow more 
>>> often. Though, most of our area gets snow heavy enough to send snow plows 
>>> out fewer than 2-3 times a year, generally.
>>> Often, the snow is just deep enough to ride comfortably when fresh 
>>> without a fat bike. I haven't done this trick since these photos in 2010, 
>>> but for some dumb fun (and a workout) I went up to the local high school's 
>>> football field and rode around the field in concentric circles (ellipses, I 
>>> guess) on my single speed bike. The total mileage was nearly 10 miles!   
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/5269889850/in/album-72157625619897864/
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 8:33:54 AM UTC-5 Takashi wrote:
>>>
 So many great images!

 Brian,
 Spectacular view, and oh, those clouds pattern in the sky!
 And your Sam is so cool; to my eyes it's perfect.

 Paul,
 Thank you, I'm glad to know that you enjoy my photos.
 Looks like Virginia is a very beautiful place, I can almost feel crisp 
 air and sweet smell of dry trees.

 Leah,
 Wow, blizzard to green in one week?
 It gave you a chance to ride your beautiful Platypus, so it was a good 
 thing, I believe.
 Please post more photos!

 Eric,
 Was it dawn or evening? Either case, beautiful photo, as always. Looks 
 like you had a very nice New Year's Day!
 Paul's and Eric's photos make me wonder - doesn't Virginia have much 
 snowfall?


 Takashi



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[RBW] Re: Some really nice Rivendell wool…

[Eric Marth]

Well, for those of us who missed the jersey now we have the opportunity to 
buy it! For $200 more than before! 

They didn't even take new pictures. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/334693544769

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 3:34:12 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> According to Jim's page on the jerseys these were produced in 2007 
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/preview_jersey_olive.html
>
> I'm not a jersey guy but I'd like to have one of these. 
>
> On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:47:25 PM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> That was VERY nice! Would have worked with my green Platypus!
>> When were those made and sold?
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley
>>
>> On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 2:38:22 PM UTC-8 David Hallerman wrote:
>>
>>> …for the smaller among us. I love the color, would have bought the 
>>> jersey if its fit favored my body.
>>>
>>> Dave, who has no connection whatsoever with the seller
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155338119505?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=xVErmBxvSyK=2349624=8RYRb3KuTHC=_ver=artemis=COPY
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto quill-clamp front brake housing stop

[Eric Marth]

I like the look of this hanger and waited way too long to buy a silver one 
from Blue Lug or Circles while they had them in stock. Ended up with black 
which was painted, not anodized. Had a lot of fun removing the paint and 
getting it to a silver that looks like it was in someone's toolbox for 40 
years. 

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:15:16 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thank you Danny, David and (offlist) Michael. Looking at it more closely 
> in the Bluelug and Analog photos, I think I'll hold out for the RH 
> headset-mount hanger (out of stock) which will give me another cm or so of 
> drop.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 6:15 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> From "Joey's Roadini" in today's email. Where can one find this stop? I 
>> don't see it in Riv's catalogue, and a Google called nothing up.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who remembers that headset on his 1991 Specialized 
>> Stumpjumper Team (or was it his 1993 XO-1?).
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
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>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: For sale: Rivendell seersucker, Patagonia nano puff, VP pedals, wool sox

[Eric Marth]

All sold! 

Thanks! 

On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:22:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi all — Continuing to sort through my stuff. Prices are net to me and do 
> not include shipping. Please contact me off-list. 
>
> More pictures over here.  
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VFisVLrQGAzIAHIonVUTjB4_hHuvkUAd?usp=sharing>
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
> [image: IMG_4656.JPG]
>
> *Rivendell MUSA Seersucker shirt — $30*
> Circa mid-2000s Rivendell seersucker shirt. Made in USA. Off-white with 
> blue-gray stripes. Oxford collar, two chest pockets. Both chest pockets 
> have pencil stalls. All buttons present and intact. Measures 22" from pit 
> to pit and 30" from top of collar to bottom hem. There are some stains 
> inside the collar, at the cuffs and near the bottom hem. Not really showing 
> up in the pics but they're there. 
>
> [image: IMG_4649.JPG]
>
> *Patagonia Nano Puff jacket — $30*
> In their "forge gray" color. Labeled a size medium. Made in Vietnam. 
> Insulated with Primaloft synthetic insulation. Several pinholes with 
> insulation poking through. Embroidered on right sleeve. Abrasions from 
> embroidery removal at center of back, below collar. Measures 22" from pit 
> to pit. 
>
> [image: IMG_4665.JPG]
>
> *Darn Tough merino no-show socks, four pair — $30 *
> Made in USA, labeled a size large. 51% Merino Wool/45% Nylon/4% Lycra 
> Spandex. Four pairs (eight socks). Black with white details. Lightly worn. 
>
> [image: IMG_4663.JPG]
>
> *Darn Tough hiker boot midweight socks (full cushion) — $10*
> Made in USA. Lightly worn, tan and burnt orange. Labeled a size large. 66% 
> Merino Wool 32% Nylon 2% Lycra Spandex. 
>
> [image: IMG_4668.JPG]
>
> *Smartwool ankle socks — $5*
> Unsure of where these were made or material content. Definitely ≥ 50% 
> merino wool. They seem to be similar to the "run light cushion" socks they 
> currently sell. Labeled a large. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-05 at 4.17.12 PM.png]
>
> *VP-001 pedals — $30 OBO*
> Refurbished VP pedals. The "thin gripster" as Rivendell called them. Some 
> scuffs and scrapes. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Eric Marth]

Huston reminds me that while Paul sells replacement parts for all their 
breaks the o-ring prices are criminal. Criminal I say! They're $2/each from 
Paul. At my local hardware store, Earl's Tru Value, they're 10¢ each. 

A box of 100 #012 o-rings from McMaster-Carr is $3.26. That's 3¢ per ring 
(and maybe even where Paul's ordering 'em from). Now I have beef with Paul *and 
*Earl. 

Forgive me if I've ranted about this before. I understand they have to make 
it worth their while and if they're paying someone to find, pack and ship 
the o-rings they can't do it at 10¢ apiece. But check out your local 
hardware store for those 012 and 013 o-rings. 

On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:46:22 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the Klampers 
> perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was just talking to 
> my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers would be as 
> powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.
>
> The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
>
>> ... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike around, 
>> but went with yet another canti-post bike (a Bruce Gordon, woot!). 
>>
>
>> Philip 
>> Sonoma County, Calif (did it really just stop raining?) 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: For Sale (again!): Paul Moon Units — kinda polished

[Eric Marth]

Okay, sold for real. Thanks people!

On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 8:51:25 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> [image: IMG_4600.JPG]
>
> Hello, I have these available again. They're packed and ready to ship. 
>
> $50 shipped CON-US. Please email to purchase, taking PayPal or Venmo. 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> [image: IMG_4604.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_4605.JPG]
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Re: [RBW] FS: Paul Moon Units

[Eric Marth]

These are sold, pending payment. 

Thanks, Eliot. These were an extra set I had intended for a build but went 
with something else — the most basic Dia Compe hanger with black spray 
paint overspray on them. I did not do the spray painting, took them off a 
1985 Bridgestone MB-3. 

I'll continue to run Moon Units on my Appaloosa but I've decided generally 
their look is not for me. 

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 8:47:38 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dang. What a deal. What are you using instead ? Motolites ?
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 3:12 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> A pair of kinda polished Paul moon units. $50 shipped :)
>>
>> [image: IMG_4600.JPG]
>>
>> [image: IMG_4604.JPG]
>>
>> [image: IMG_4605.JPG]
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[RBW] Re: Some really nice Rivendell wool…

[Eric Marth]

According to Jim's page on the jerseys these were produced in 2007 

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/preview_jersey_olive.html

I'm not a jersey guy but I'd like to have one of these. 

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:47:25 PM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:

> That was VERY nice! Would have worked with my green Platypus!
> When were those made and sold?
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley
>
> On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 2:38:22 PM UTC-8 David Hallerman wrote:
>
>> …for the smaller among us. I love the color, would have bought the jersey 
>> if its fit favored my body.
>>
>> Dave, who has no connection whatsoever with the seller
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155338119505?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=xVErmBxvSyK=2349624=8RYRb3KuTHC=_ver=artemis=COPY
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[RBW] WTB: Tall stem, 26.0/7cm

[Eric Marth]

Hello, friends — I'm looking for a tall stem for a build. Nitto stem with 
225mm overall length, 26.0 clamp and 7cm in reach. Doesn't need to be the 
deluxe, would go standard Technomic. 

Condition doesn't much mater as long as it's structurally sound. 

Thanks and please let me know your price shipped to me in 22401! 

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Re: [RBW] Where is there a good source for colored twine ?

[Eric Marth]

Just my two centimes: I think that standard hemp twine in the neutral, 
subdued brown-tan color would look nice with your Campandgoslow tape. If 
you're worried about it wearing out I think it would last at least several 
years and when it does wear out you can replace it at very low cost. 

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 4:59:05 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi Kim — Not sure where they came from but Trevor here on the board 
> recently sent me a twine sampler with gray, yellow, blue, red and green 
> twine. 
>
> The Maine Thread link from Curtis looks great. This is my kind of vendor 
> and I can see myself purchasing from them soon (and then repeatedly in the 
> future!). Thanks for the link, Curtis. Really love this kind of place. 
>
> On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 3:04:08 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Eliot, 
>>
>> I'm not into shellacking at this time.
>> I am using the Campandgoslow Western Rattlesnake handlebar tape. I want 
>> to find the appropriate twine and be finished with it.
>>
>> Thank you for asking.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 8:18 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>
>>> Not into shellac Kim?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 6:05 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had a link for a website that sold imitation twine, but I misplaced 
>>>> it in my bookmarks.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a specific type or brand that excels better than the other is 
>>>> in being durable in all sorts of weather ?
>>>>
>>>> Thank-you,
>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>> ...trying to finish off my chain stay, my low bar and soon my handlebar 
>>>> grips on my Clem Smith Jr. "L".
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Re: [RBW] Where is there a good source for colored twine ?

[Eric Marth]

Hi Kim — Not sure where they came from but Trevor here on the board 
recently sent me a twine sampler with gray, yellow, blue, red and green 
twine. 

The Maine Thread link from Curtis looks great. This is my kind of vendor 
and I can see myself purchasing from them soon (and then repeatedly in the 
future!). Thanks for the link, Curtis. Really love this kind of place. 

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 3:04:08 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Eliot, 
>
> I'm not into shellacking at this time.
> I am using the Campandgoslow Western Rattlesnake handlebar tape. I want to 
> find the appropriate twine and be finished with it.
>
> Thank you for asking.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 8:18 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>
>> Not into shellac Kim?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 6:05 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>
>>> I had a link for a website that sold imitation twine, but I misplaced it 
>>> in my bookmarks.
>>>
>>> Is there a specific type or brand that excels better than the other is 
>>> in being durable in all sorts of weather ?
>>>
>>> Thank-you,
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> ...trying to finish off my chain stay, my low bar and soon my handlebar 
>>> grips on my Clem Smith Jr. "L".
>>>
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