Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???
On 14:23 26 May 2002, Huter.Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I know the arrow key and the letter key can move cursor quite
| well,but I'm wondering why not just use arrow key?so I think there's
| now arrow key in the old keyboard and the old vi have *NO* choice but
| use letter key to move cursor?
Correct.
The other thing is that arrow keys send multibyte character sequences,
not single characters. These sequences commence with escape. Now,
imagine you're the vi programs listing to the typer. You get "ESC [
A". Now, did the user type ESC (to leave insert mode perhaps) and then
[ and then A, or did they type the up arrow?
The hueristic in curses is to watch the timing - if these characters
arrive close enough together they are considered an arrow key.
However, over a remote connection (telnet, ssh, busy serial line,
whatever) almost arbitrary timing gaps may appear between the charaters
and the curses program (vi in your example) can misread things.
Avoid the arrow keys - they are EVIL!
I tend to use backspace and space, minus and enter for single motions, and
the other motions: H, M, L, {, }, /pattern, w, W, b, B, etc for faster /
different motions. And of course j and k. I hardly ever use h and l.
hjkl are also the ergonomic keys for playing hack. Very important.
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Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???
>hi,Vidiot! > I know the arrow key and the letter key can move cursor quite well,but I'm >wondering why not just use arrow key?so I think there's now arrow key in the old >keyboard and the old vi have *NO* choice but use letter key to move cursor?who can >give me a picture of the oldest keyboard?? VI was developed long before the keyboards we use today were developed. Back in the days before X was even developed, i.e., tty CRTs, using curses. I don't have any photos of old keyboards. MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is God's job to forgive bin Laden. It is our job to set up the meeting. U.S. Marine Corp. Visit - URL: http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: public_html pages stoped serving [fixed]
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 25/05/2002 at 9:50 AM Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gregausit/redhat-list] wrote: >Hi Greg: > >I found the problem. Somehow the permissions on my password file got >changed. Must have been related to the filesystem filling up. Fixing that >fixed the user pages. Oh well, at least I was prodded into updating Apache >. Oh good, I was also going to say make sure you know why the permissions changed if it had :) PS there is nothing wrong with using more than the main .conf file, however you should know why you are doing so, IMO the mod_ssl version of apache *needs* to be split across more than one .conf file. Regards Greg Wright -- IT Consultant Sydney Australia PH 0418 292020 -- Int. +61 418 292020 Available for Global Contracts US Fax -- 801 740 2874 Web http://www.ausit.comE-mail Greg AT AusIT.com Trading As - AAA Computers -- providers of IT services. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???
hi,Vidiot! I know the arrow key and the letter key can move cursor quite well,but I'm wondering why not just use arrow key?so I think there's now arrow key in the old keyboard and the old vi have *NO* choice but use letter key to move cursor?who can give me a picture of the oldest keyboard?? thanks in advance. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-05-26 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Bad rpmdb, where'd this come from?
Running 7.1 and seems to have been running ok for quite a while. Today running up2date -u as I do every so often I got a few updates. imap, imlib, and fetchmail and sharutils. I realized I had no need for imap so just rpm -e'd those instead of installing the new ones. When I did I got this message: rpm -e imap-devel rpmdb: Suspiciously high nelem of 4294967295 on page 0 error: db4 error(-30979) from db->verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed Then running rpm -UvhF *.rpm on what was left Preparing...### [100%] 1:imlib ### [ 20%] 2:fetchmail ### [ 40%] 3:imlib-cfgeditor### [ 60%] 4:imlib-devel### [ 80%] 5:sharutils ### [100%] rpmdb: Suspiciously high nelem of 4294967295 on page 0 error: db4 error(-30979) from db->verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed The number after `high nelem of' in the first error may have been a different number. I didn' actually keep that one, and used one that followed for example. Anyone know what is happening here? rpm -V rpm reveals this information: root # rpm -V rpm .UG. c /var/lib/rpm/Dirnames .UG. c /var/lib/rpm/Filemd5s .UG. c /var/lib/rpm/Installtid .UG. c /var/lib/rpm/Provideversion .UG. c /var/lib/rpm/Requireversion .UG. c /var/lib/rpm/Sha1header .UG. c /var/lib/rpm/Sigmd5 .UG. c /var/lib/rpm/__db.001 .UG. c /var/lib/rpm/__db.002 And a ls -al shows: (NOTE: The two files beginning with double underscore do not show up) root # ls -la /var/lib/rpm total 18612 drwxr-xr-x2 rpm rpm 4096 May 25 07:22 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 Mar 19 11:46 .. -rw-r--r--1 rpm rpm 5214208 May 25 07:11 Basenames -rw-r--r--1 rpm rpm 12288 May 25 07:11 Conflictname -rw-r--r--1 root root86016 May 25 07:11 Dirnames -rw-r--r--1 root root 626688 May 25 07:11 Filemd5s -rw-r--r--1 rpm rpm 12288 May 25 07:11 Group -rw-r--r--1 root root 8192 May 25 07:11 Installtid -rw-r--r--1 rpm rpm 24576 May 25 07:11 Name -rw-r--r--1 rpm rpm 14372864 May 25 07:11 Packages -rw-r--r--1 rpm rpm 86016 May 25 07:11 Providename -rw-r--r--1 root root12288 May 25 07:11 Provideversion -rw-r--r--1 rpm rpm118784 May 25 07:11 Requirename -rw-r--r--1 root root12288 May 25 07:11 Requireversion -rw-r--r--1 root root12288 May 25 07:11 Sha1header -rw-r--r--1 root root12288 May 25 07:11 Sigmd5 -rw-r--r--1 rpm rpm 12288 May 25 07:11 Triggername Normal queries work as usual root # rpm -q sharutils sharutils-4.2.1-8.7.x I fixed what appears to be a permissions error and reset everything to rpm rpm. That silenced rpm -V. But it seems some things just don't work as they should: root # rpm -Uvh fetchmail-5.9.0-10.i386.rpm Preparing... ### [100%] 1:fetchmail ### [100%] rpmdb: Suspiciously high nelem of 4294967295 on page 0 error: db4 error(-30979) from db->verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed Although the install seems to have worked: # rpm -q fetchmail fetchmail-5.9.0-10 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: difference between run levels 1 and S
I think we figured all of this out already. Runlevel 1 is a defined runlevel (/etc/inittab) who's behavior is based on the related rc.d scripts (Runlevel 1 could therefore spam the screen with ascii art and do nothing more). Runlevel S, obviously, is what one would use if you were just going to get things going (good if you're building a system from scratch... or doing a major rebuild of a b0rked setup). Runlevel 1 would seem to be accessible via init/telinit (since traditionally, runlevel 1 means that none of the network stuff is going among other things), whereas Runlevel S would logically be best (if not only) accessible by rebooting. On Sat, 25 May 2002, Bret Hughes wrote: > On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 15:15, rpjday wrote: > > > > a number of people i've chatted with lately seemed to think > > there was not much difference between run level 1 and run levels > > s or S. after i explained it a couple of times, it occurred to > > me to make sure *i* understood it properly. > > > > as i understand it, run level 1 is similar to the other numeric > > run levels in that all of those run levels are defined in > > /etc/inittab -- regardless of what numeric run level you're > > going to, init consults /etc/inittab to determine what has > > to happen, and this involves running the K and S scripts in > > the appropriate directory. for run level 1, this consists > > almost exclusively of K scripts (not totally, though -- more > > on that in a minute). > > > > in addition, if you boot to run level 1 at, say, the grub > > menu, /etc/inittab *must* exist since, obviously, it has to > > be consulted. > > > > run level S, though, is another matter, in that this takes > > the system directly to a single-user mode *without* consulting > > /etc/inittab -- useful if you've trashed that file. > > Hmmm. Not sure that is true but the init man page does seem to have > some conflicting info. > > >From the init man page: > > BOOTING >After init is invoked as the last step of the kernel boot >sequence, it looks for the file /etc/inittab to see if >there is an entry of the type initdefault (see init >tab(5)). The initdefault entry determines the initial run >level of the system. If there is no such entry (or no >/etc/inittab at all), a runlevel must be entered at the >system console. > >Runlevel S or s bring the system to single user mode and >do not require an /etc/initttab file. In single user >mode, a root shell is opened on /dev/console. > > then later: > > BOOTFLAGS >It is possible to pass a number of flags to init from the >boot monitor (eg. LILO). Init accepts the following flags: > >-s, S, single > Single user mode boot. In this mode /etc/inittab is > examined and the bootup rc scripts are usually run > before the single user mode shell is started. > >1-5 Runlevel to boot into. > > Is the issue whether s is entered at boot or via telinit? Not sure but > like Mr Wagner, I have always assumed 1 and s were the same but clearly > they are not. > > Keep us informed of any progress you make on figuring this out. > > Bret > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Console font lines per screen
On 5/22/02 11:32 PM, "Kevin Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:09:52 -0400, you wrote: > >> I tried consolechars also, without success. The SYSFONT line in i18n seems >> to be what did it for me. And yes, I needed a reboot. > > Yes, it's a combination of the vga mode and the font. The i18n file is read > by the setsysfont script in the rc.sysinit. I got the result I wanted, 50 > lines per screen, by using a 132x25 (yes, twenty-five) vga setting (vga=7 > here), and Lat0-08 font. I don't really understand why, but this combination > ends up with the required 50 lines. Actually, I just installed 7.3 on my laptop (subject of a near-future post) and to get 80x50, all I did was change the i18n file - no mucking about with 'vga=' anything. I set it to lat0-08, and when it gets to 'loading default font' it switches right in. -- Ed Marczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Huter.Liu wrote: > hi,redhat-list! > I'm wondering why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor but use h,j,k,l???Is >the oldest keyborad have no arrow key??The arrow key,home key,and the additional >number keys is added later,isn't it?? The arrow keys work fine for me. The reason that the _primary_ keys for moving around are a bit strange is that it is the least demanding for your fingers (you don't have to stretch or hunt for keys), thus keeping you from pain in your hands and helping you accomplish your goals faster. That said, the vi that comes with Red Hat allows you to use arrow keys if you really want to, although I find the letter keys easier. If this isn't working for you, I don't know how to fix it, but someone else on the list probably does. Jon > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2002-05-26 > > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???
>hi,redhat-list! > I'm wondering why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor but use h,j,k,l???Is >the oldest keyborad have no arrow key??The arrow key,home key,and the additional >number keys is added later,isn't it?? Strange, the arrow keys work for me. MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is God's job to forgive bin Laden. It is our job to set up the meeting. U.S. Marine Corp. Visit - URL: http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???
hi,redhat-list! I'm wondering why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor but use h,j,k,l???Is the oldest keyborad have no arrow key??The arrow key,home key,and the additional number keys is added later,isn't it?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-05-26 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Intel AnyPoint Wireless Network in Linux?
--- Steve Buehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You might want to go to intel.com and look at the > specs for the card to see > if it supports linux and if it does, check to see if > you have to download > drivers and/or what versions of linux all ready > support it built in. You > will probably get an answer faster that way. > > Steve > At intel.com, it doesn't look like Linux is supported, or at least officially. > At 09:57 AM 5/25/2002 -0700, The Gyzmo wrote: > >Hello. > > > >A friend recently gave me two Intel AnyPoint PCMCIA > >cards to toy with and I got the USB based adapter > >also. They work very well in Winbloze and I'd like > to > >use the PCMCIA cards for the two laptops in my > house > >rather than Ethernet. > > > >Is the Intel AnyPoint system supported with Linux > >right now? I'd like to have my Linux gateway serve > the > >laptops through the wireless USB adapter also and I > >don't want to have a Winbloze box to be the gateway > >for the gateway. > > > >Whatever the procedure is, I don't mind having to > >recompile the kernel if it doesn't require any > >tweaking. I will be upgrading to Valhalla in the > next > >few days. > > > >Any help is greatly appreciated as Google hasn't > >turned up anything. = +--+ |This message is from Serban Giuroiu, also known online| |as The Gyzmo.| |EMAIL: g y z m o b r o @ y a h o o . com | |AIM Screen Name: gyzmobro | +--+ "Code Smarter, Not Harder" - off the Desaware t-shirt I have __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Archived snapshot of 6.1?
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 07:41:04PM -0300, Chris Watt wrote: > > Redhat has every (non-beta) version they've released on their ftp site > ftp.redhat.com, but it's a little busy most of the time. More specifically: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.1/en/iso/i386/redhat-6.1-i386.iso Good luck downloading. Emmanuel ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Archived snapshot of 6.1?
At 13:18 2002/05/24 -0700, Paul Thomas wrote: >Does anyone know if there is a distro snapshot archived >someplace? Redhat has every (non-beta) version they've released on their ftp site ftp.redhat.com, but it's a little busy most of the time. -- Q: What's tiny and yellow and very, very, dangerous? A: A canary with the super-user password. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: difference between run levels 1 and S
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 15:15, rpjday wrote: > > a number of people i've chatted with lately seemed to think > there was not much difference between run level 1 and run levels > s or S. after i explained it a couple of times, it occurred to > me to make sure *i* understood it properly. > > as i understand it, run level 1 is similar to the other numeric > run levels in that all of those run levels are defined in > /etc/inittab -- regardless of what numeric run level you're > going to, init consults /etc/inittab to determine what has > to happen, and this involves running the K and S scripts in > the appropriate directory. for run level 1, this consists > almost exclusively of K scripts (not totally, though -- more > on that in a minute). > > in addition, if you boot to run level 1 at, say, the grub > menu, /etc/inittab *must* exist since, obviously, it has to > be consulted. > > run level S, though, is another matter, in that this takes > the system directly to a single-user mode *without* consulting > /etc/inittab -- useful if you've trashed that file. Hmmm. Not sure that is true but the init man page does seem to have some conflicting info. >From the init man page: BOOTING After init is invoked as the last step of the kernel boot sequence, it looks for the file /etc/inittab to see if there is an entry of the type initdefault (see init tab(5)). The initdefault entry determines the initial run level of the system. If there is no such entry (or no /etc/inittab at all), a runlevel must be entered at the system console. Runlevel S or s bring the system to single user mode and do not require an /etc/initttab file. In single user mode, a root shell is opened on /dev/console. then later: BOOTFLAGS It is possible to pass a number of flags to init from the boot monitor (eg. LILO). Init accepts the following flags: -s, S, single Single user mode boot. In this mode /etc/inittab is examined and the bootup rc scripts are usually run before the single user mode shell is started. 1-5 Runlevel to boot into. Is the issue whether s is entered at boot or via telinit? Not sure but like Mr Wagner, I have always assumed 1 and s were the same but clearly they are not. Keep us informed of any progress you make on figuring this out. Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: otto mp3 streaming server
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 03:14:16AM +1000, Dan Horth wrote: > > any help or ideas as to how I can get my mp3 collection streaming > around the house would be great! Have you tried mod_mp3 ? http://media.tangent.org/ http://enigma.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=810 Emmanuel PS: Please wrap your lines every 72 chars. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Kernel oops
Whenever I change any hardware, I like to recompile the kernel to make sure everything is peachy. Try recompiling the kernel and see what happens. On Fri, 24 May 2002, Ed Wilts wrote: > In the last week or so, I've been starting to get kernel errors. This is > with the latest 7.1 updates. Any ideas as to what's happening? The latest > change is that I replaced a 10GB Fujitsu drive with a Quantum 30GB fireball, > but this drive should not have been accessed at this time (it's only used > for backups, and they weren't running at this latest error). > > Thanks, > .../Ed > > Unusual System Events > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference > at virtual address 0005 > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: printing eip: > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: c06c3f8e > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: *pde = > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: Oops: > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: Kernel 2.4.9-31 > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: CPU:0 > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: EIP: > 0010:[8139too:__insmod_8139too_O/lib/modules/2.4.9-31/kernel/drivers/net/+-1 > 35868530/96]Not tainted > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: EIP:0010:[]Not tainted > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: EFLAGS: 00010296 > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: EIP is at ___strtok_R29805c13 [] 0x377dda > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: eax: 0005 ebx: ecx: > edx: > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: esi: c40af840 edi: ffea ebp: 1000 > esp: c56c7f7c > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: Stack: 0005 c40af840 40018000 1000 > c40af860 fffd c01197f3 0046 > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel:c56c7fc4 000b c0300a60 c15444a0 > c01084fc c56c6000 402b2600 > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel:bfffdc28 c0106f33 40018000 > 1000 402b2600 bfffdc28 > May 24 20:03:49 www kernel: Call Trace: [do_softirq+83/160] do_softirq > [kernel] 0x53 > May 24 20:03:50 www kernel: Call Trace: [] do_softirq [kernel] > 0x53 > May 24 20:03:50 www kernel: [system_call+51/64] system_call [kernel] 0x33 > May 24 20:03:50 www kernel: [] system_call [kernel] 0x33 > May 24 20:03:50 www kernel: > May 24 20:03:50 www kernel: > May 24 20:03:50 www kernel: Code: 2b 38 2b 53 50 2f 70 6e 2f 41 4e 63 36 0a > 31 6f 71 64 33 4b > > > Ed Wilts > Mounds View, MN, USA > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: difference between run levels 1 and S
It's my understanding that Linux 1 = Linux S -Original Message- From: rpjday [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 3:16 PM To: redhat mailing list Subject: difference between run levels 1 and S a number of people i've chatted with lately seemed to think there was not much difference between run level 1 and run levels s or S. after i explained it a couple of times, it occurred to me to make sure *i* understood it properly. as i understand it, run level 1 is similar to the other numeric run levels in that all of those run levels are defined in /etc/inittab -- regardless of what numeric run level you're going to, init consults /etc/inittab to determine what has to happen, and this involves running the K and S scripts in the appropriate directory. for run level 1, this consists almost exclusively of K scripts (not totally, though -- more on that in a minute). in addition, if you boot to run level 1 at, say, the grub menu, /etc/inittab *must* exist since, obviously, it has to be consulted. run level S, though, is another matter, in that this takes the system directly to a single-user mode *without* consulting /etc/inittab -- useful if you've trashed that file. in fact, switching to run level 1 actually involves "K"illing almost everything, then "S"tarting single user mode. so, is that a fair description? am i missing anything critical? is there, somewhere, a decent writeup on this since the man pages for both init and inittab don't discuss this distinction as well as i'd like. rday ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Intel AnyPoint Wireless Network in Linux?
You might want to go to intel.com and look at the specs for the card to see if it supports linux and if it does, check to see if you have to download drivers and/or what versions of linux all ready support it built in. You will probably get an answer faster that way. Steve At 09:57 AM 5/25/2002 -0700, The Gyzmo wrote: >Hello. > >A friend recently gave me two Intel AnyPoint PCMCIA >cards to toy with and I got the USB based adapter >also. They work very well in Winbloze and I'd like to >use the PCMCIA cards for the two laptops in my house >rather than Ethernet. > >Is the Intel AnyPoint system supported with Linux >right now? I'd like to have my Linux gateway serve the >laptops through the wireless USB adapter also and I >don't want to have a Winbloze box to be the gateway >for the gateway. > >Whatever the procedure is, I don't mind having to >recompile the kernel if it doesn't require any >tweaking. I will be upgrading to Valhalla in the next >few days. > >Any help is greatly appreciated as Google hasn't >turned up anything. > >= >+--+ >|This message is from Serban Giuroiu, also known online| >|as The Gyzmo.| >|EMAIL: g y z m o b r o @ y a h o o . com | >|AIM Screen Name: gyzmobro | >+--+ >"Code Smarter, Not Harder" - off the Desaware t-shirt I have > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > >___ >Redhat-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
difference between run levels 1 and S
a number of people i've chatted with lately seemed to think there was not much difference between run level 1 and run levels s or S. after i explained it a couple of times, it occurred to me to make sure *i* understood it properly. as i understand it, run level 1 is similar to the other numeric run levels in that all of those run levels are defined in /etc/inittab -- regardless of what numeric run level you're going to, init consults /etc/inittab to determine what has to happen, and this involves running the K and S scripts in the appropriate directory. for run level 1, this consists almost exclusively of K scripts (not totally, though -- more on that in a minute). in addition, if you boot to run level 1 at, say, the grub menu, /etc/inittab *must* exist since, obviously, it has to be consulted. run level S, though, is another matter, in that this takes the system directly to a single-user mode *without* consulting /etc/inittab -- useful if you've trashed that file. in fact, switching to run level 1 actually involves "K"illing almost everything, then "S"tarting single user mode. so, is that a fair description? am i missing anything critical? is there, somewhere, a decent writeup on this since the man pages for both init and inittab don't discuss this distinction as well as i'd like. rday ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 + icewm 1.0.9 => switching virtual desktops
On Sat, 25 May 2002 01:03:30 -0500 ABrady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should probably join the icewm mailing list, or as a minimum, look > at the info provided on the homepage. > > Quickly, edit ~/.icewm/preferences and/or ~/.icewm/keys. If the keys > file doesn't exist you'll need to create it, and explanations are best > left to the docs. > > You can also change virtual desktops with CTRL-ALT- with > being the number of the desktop (1, 2, 3, etc). > > If you haven't used it in awhile, you really need to check the docs > and even join the mailing list. It's changed a lot and there are > things that weren't there not too long ago. > > Thanks, that's what I was looking for. I'll check out the icewm list. I used to be subscribed (year or two ago) but quit, as I started using XFCE full time, and the list was pretty dead anyway at that time. Monte -- All right, breaks over. Back on your heads!! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
otto mp3 streaming server
Hi - I was wondering if anyone has successfully set up otto on a Redhat 7.2 server - I've tried and failed... the project sounds great but the instructions are a bit vague for my level of admin skills, and I haven't had a reply from the developers... http://www.cardhouse.com/otto/ I've followed the setup instructions - and managed to get all the required stuff set up (I think) although I did have problems installing the Mysql 1.2215 perl module - I ended up having to go for a later version... but the Mysql / perl bit doesn't seem to be the problem - I have been able to get otto to find and catalogue all my files but can't get anything played... basically otto just skips through each track on the playlist - as if it tries to open the file and fails - so it moves on to the next one, and so on... any help or ideas as to how I can get my mp3 collection streaming around the house would be great! thanks, dan. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Intel AnyPoint Wireless Network in Linux?
Hello. A friend recently gave me two Intel AnyPoint PCMCIA cards to toy with and I got the USB based adapter also. They work very well in Winbloze and I'd like to use the PCMCIA cards for the two laptops in my house rather than Ethernet. Is the Intel AnyPoint system supported with Linux right now? I'd like to have my Linux gateway serve the laptops through the wireless USB adapter also and I don't want to have a Winbloze box to be the gateway for the gateway. Whatever the procedure is, I don't mind having to recompile the kernel if it doesn't require any tweaking. I will be upgrading to Valhalla in the next few days. Any help is greatly appreciated as Google hasn't turned up anything. = +--+ |This message is from Serban Giuroiu, also known online| |as The Gyzmo.| |EMAIL: g y z m o b r o @ y a h o o . com | |AIM Screen Name: gyzmobro | +--+ "Code Smarter, Not Harder" - off the Desaware t-shirt I have __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: SCSI card RH 7.3
The Adaptec 2940 series will work well. On Sat, 25 May 2002, Andrew Judge wrote: > Anyone have any suggestions for a good scsi card that will control a tape > drive (68 pin Seagate 20/40) on RH 7.3? I was thinking about a Adaptec > 19160, but am not sure about compatibility since it is a little unclear on > the HCL. > > > Best regards, > > Andrew Judge > > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: blew away a gig
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 12:01:02PM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2002, daniel wrote: > > > ext3 unfortunately > > all the information i've found is for ext2 > > unrm won't even run with ext3 > > These are not explicitly ext3 tools ext2 and ext3 are very compatible. The difference on disk is that ext3 has some extra journal data that ext2 will ignore. The real difference is in the kernel that knows how to do the journaling. Once you have deleted the whole thing, these differences are completely trivial, use any ext2 tools that you can that help. Good luck, -kb, the Kent who hasn't tried to undelete things on Linux. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: blew away a gig
On Fri, 24 May 2002, daniel wrote: > ext3 unfortunately > all the information i've found is for ext2 > unrm won't even run with ext3 These are not explicitly ext3 tools, but I had some success with LDE (lde.sourceforge.net) and debugfs (e2undel.sourceforge.net/recovery-howto.html). A lot of patience and a certain amount of creativity is required. Good luck. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > ...and i need it all back. > > > > > > > > > > what are my chances of undeleting a gig? > > > > > and how do i do it? > > > > > > > > > > i deleted the files from windows through samba -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: public_html pages stoped serving [fixed]
Hi Greg: I found the problem. Somehow the permissions on my password file got changed. Must have been related to the filesystem filling up. Fixing that fixed the user pages. Oh well, at least I was prodded into updating Apache . Thanks very much as always for your help, Scott > >All of my "public_html" (i.e. http://www.mydomain.com/~jones) web pages > >stopped serving. My non-public_html pages and virtual domains are working > >fine. > >conf file has not changed and srm.comf has: > > > >DocumentRoot /home/httpd/html > >UserDir public_html > > > >Can someone tell me what to check next or how to repair? > You should only be using http(s)d.conf unless it is really old version. In my efforts to fix, I installed the latest rpm. I'm now running 1.3.22. I re-edited the fresh config files and I am now only using httpd.conf, the others are empty. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: public_html pages stoped serving
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 25/05/2002 at 8:26 AM Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gregausit/redhat-list] wrote: >Greetings (help, help!) > >Last night I had a root filesystem fill due to a log file growing too >large. >I have corected that and all is back to normal except: > >All of my "public_html" (i.e. http://www.mydomain.com/~jones) web pages >stopped serving. My non-public_html pages and virtual domains are working >fine. > > >conf file has not changed and srm.comf has: > >DocumentRoot /home/httpd/html >UserDir public_html > >Can someone tell me what to check next or how to repair? You should only be using http(s)d.conf unless it is really old version. Anyway, you do not say if it worked before, go to a shell and see if you can access the directory as a different user, i.e user nobody needs to be able to get to this file index.html, some versions of RH required manually setting the directory permissions. Regards Greg Wright -- IT Consultant Sydney Australia PH 0418 292020 -- Int. +61 418 292020 Available for Global Contracts US Fax -- 801 740 2874 Web http://www.ausit.comE-mail Greg AT AusIT.com Trading As - AAA Computers -- providers of IT services. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
public_html pages stoped serving
Greetings (help, help!) Last night I had a root filesystem fill due to a log file growing too large. I have corected that and all is back to normal except: All of my "public_html" (i.e. http://www.mydomain.com/~jones) web pages stopped serving. My non-public_html pages and virtual domains are working fine. In my httpd error log I see: [Sat May 25 08:11:04 2002] [error] [client xx.xx.xx.xx] File does not exist: /home/httpd/html/~jones If I try to implicitly send index.html I get: [Sat May 25 08:12:10 2002] [error] [client xx.xx.xx.xx] File does not exist: /home/httpd/html/~jones/index.html But the file and directory do exist, there have been no changes. They have permissions drwxr-xr-x I have restarted httpd - not luck. I rebooted - still no luck conf file has not changed and srm.comf has: DocumentRoot /home/httpd/html UserDir public_html Can someone tell me what to check next or how to repair? Thanks very much for any help, Scott ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: What is correct way to load modules before file systems are mounted?
Thanks! On 05/25/02, 12:43:00AM -0500, ABrady wrote: > Here's mine in its entirety, USB and all. -- John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: running 7.2 and 7.3 side by side
On 24 May 2002, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 13:07, Ward William E DLDN wrote: > > > > Benefits: > > > > One, single /var so ALL logs still show up; and nicely, > > during boot, it TELLS you what kernel you're booting to, > > so you can decipher. > > /var contains data that may not be compatible between 7.2 and 7.4. For > instance, PostgreSQL won't work. > > Skip sharing /var. (out of curiosity, how did this thread suddenly referring to "7.4"? you guys must have a *serious* pre-alpha version or something. :-) the more i think about this, the more i realize that this is related to the file and directory layout being discussed in the FHS (filesystem hierarchy standard). the biggest hassle is clearly the /var directory, which currently is a mess. /var currently contains, on the one hand, truly variable data (/var/log, /var/lock) that does not have to be carried across to a new release, but also config and data files (/var/www, /var/ftp, /var/named, etc.) that *could* be carried across (or, more specifically, *should* be carried across to a new release). one of the proposals of the FHS was to create a new top-level directory, /srv, for stuff to be *served*, such as /srv/ftp, /srv/http and so on. if things were designed more cleanly, that would make my little exercise here a lot simpler. so i'm going to peruse the last few months of the FHS archives and think on this some more. rday ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: conversion to pdf
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:10:23PM -0700, Hidong Kim wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to convert images to PDF. They're mostly JPEG images to > start. I convert them to PostScript in xv. When I do this, the > PostScript image comes out with huge white borders. The JPEG images > which are about 4" x 3" are always reformatted to PostScript on a 8.5" x > 11" field. How do I eliminate all of this extra white space? Thanks, Does xv have an option for setting the paper size? If you have ImageMagik installed (probably do), then you might try using 'convert' instead. 'man convert' will give you the details. Regards, Ben -- Ben Logan: ben at wblogan dot net OpenPGP Key KeyID: A1ADD1F0 Police up your spare rounds and frags. Don't leave nothin' for the dinks. - Willem Dafoe in "Platoon" ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: SCSI card RH 7.3
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 09:43, Andrew Judge wrote: > Anyone have any suggestions for a good scsi card that will control a tape > drive (68 pin Seagate 20/40) on RH 7.3? I was thinking about a Adaptec > 19160, but am not sure about compatibility since it is a little unclear on > the HCL. It uses the AIC-7892 chip which is supported by Linux. I use the 29160 which uses the same chip. It works OK. I also use the 29040U2W which seems to have a driver bottleneck at approx.65 MB/s. Other OS'es allow it to operate it to approx. 78 MB/s (Soft RAID0). Rick ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: SCSI card RH 7.3
try initio 9100UW.. They seem to work well. Rgds, Darryl At 07:43 PM 25/05/2002, you wrote: >Anyone have any suggestions for a good scsi card that will control a tape >drive (68 pin Seagate 20/40) on RH 7.3? I was thinking about a Adaptec >19160, but am not sure about compatibility since it is a little unclear on >the HCL. > > >Best regards, > >Andrew Judge > > > > >___ >Redhat-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
SCSI card RH 7.3
Anyone have any suggestions for a good scsi card that will control a tape drive (68 pin Seagate 20/40) on RH 7.3? I was thinking about a Adaptec 19160, but am not sure about compatibility since it is a little unclear on the HCL. Best regards, Andrew Judge ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
