Re: Fluxbox window manager
On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, at 07:44 PM, M. Parcheur wrote: In your personal directory /home/user/ there is a file .Xclients-default; you can edit it like this: ** #!/bin/bash # (c) 2000 Red Hat, Inc. exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox *** Actually, there wasn't a file of that name in my home directory. But I went ahead and created it as you said. Then I went ahead and changed /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/fluxbox: And you must edit the file /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/fluxbox like this: #!/bin/bash exec /etc/X11/xdm/Xsessions fluxbox *** I tried restarting X, but fluxbox wasn't in the Sessions box. So then I restarted my computer and it _still_ wasn't there. I exited X and tried booting it from the console by typing fluxbox and then /usr/local/bin/fluxbox but it only came up with this error message: BaseDisplay::BaseDisplay: connection to X server failed. Fluxbox: Unknown error. Can anybody else help me? Thanks for your help, though, M. Parcheur. - Lukas Fried -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fluxbox window manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:39:36 -0400, Lukas Fried wrote: Anyone know how to setup the fluxbox window manager in RH9? I installed the latest version from a source tarball but I can't seem to use it. I've added exec fluxbox and exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox to the file /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/fluxbox (which I had to make) but it doesn't show up in the Sessions box in the GDM. I couldn't start it from runlevel 3 either. Can someone please help me? Thanks in advance. http://www.fedora.us has a working Fluxbox package. And yes, it also provides session type info for gdm. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Ox2J0iMVcrivHFQRAjOfAJ9eIL0ST6i/W0lgQJXbTkuTlBQFGQCeNzcO Q2/ZqM6dURNi9dLOnCoAG0M= =TYrJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fluxbox window manager
In your personal directory /home/user/ there is a file .Xclients-default; you can edit it like this: ** #!/bin/bash # (c) 2000 Red Hat, Inc. exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox *** And you must edit the file /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/fluxbox like this: #!/bin/bash exec /etc/X11/xdm/Xsessions fluxbox *** Regards. M. Parcheur Anyone know how to setup the fluxbox window manager in RH9? I installed I've added exec fluxbox and exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox to the file /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/fluxbox (which I had to make) but it doesn't show up in the Sessions box in the GDM. I couldn't start it from runlevel 3 either. Can someone please help me? Thanks in advance. - Lukas Fried -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Fluxbox window manager
Anyone know how to setup the fluxbox window manager in RH9? I installed the latest version from a source tarball but I can't seem to use it. I've added exec fluxbox and exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox to the file /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/fluxbox (which I had to make) but it doesn't show up in the Sessions box in the GDM. I couldn't start it from runlevel 3 either. Can someone please help me? Thanks in advance. - Lukas Fried -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fluxbox window manager
On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 01:26 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: http://www.fedora.us has a working Fluxbox package. And yes, it also provides session type info for gdm. Thanks for telling me this. It will probably help me a lot...that is, when I get my RH9 box running again. It keeps hanging at Updating /etc/fstab maybe I should post something about that :-). Thanks. - Lukas Fried -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: XFCE 4 (was Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox,FWM, or something else?)
Le 27/06/2003 01:13, « Stephen Kuhn » [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 02:15, Nilesh Sahita wrote: I tried using XFCE 4. Yet to determine whether it is faster than GNOME/KDE. However, the issue I have with XFCE 4 is that I can't find any menus entries / launchers that I have in KDE or GNOME. Is there anyway to import KDE / GNOME menus into XFCE desktop? *** The whole logic of changing a WM is not to have the same stufff as your previous one. But, if you insist: Yes you can. At least you were able in the XFCE ver3.x.x. Go have a look in the Configuration menu; the last tab allowed before to load KDE Gnome menu's. -- Cheers, Zoran. Software isn't released, it's allowed to escape. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: XFCE 4 (was Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?)
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:14:23AM +0200, Zoki wrote: *** The whole logic of changing a WM is not to have the same stufff as your previous one. [...] I'd say that's true for everything except the menus... One might still want to be able to access all programs installed... ;-) Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2 == - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: XFCE 4 (was Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox,FWM, or something else?)
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 19:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:14:23AM +0200, Zoki wrote: *** The whole logic of changing a WM is not to have the same stufff as your previous one. [...] I'd say that's true for everything except the menus... One might still want to be able to access all programs installed... ;-) Cheerio, Thomas I don't see what's so hard about either using MenuMaker or hand editing the menu.xml; ain't like MenuMaker is going to put everything the way you like it, neither. I rather like being able to put WHAT I want WHERE I want it - and not include programs I have no use of, or rarely use in the first place... Would be nice to have some graphical GTK tool to create/edit/modify menus, but editing an XML ain't like rocket science... -- Mon Jun 30 19:20:00 EST 2003 19:20:00 up 5 days, 19:06, 3 users, load average: 0.97, 1.08, 1.17 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * If the enemy is in range so are you -- Murphy's Military Laws n39 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:20:02PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:40:22AM +0200, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: you could use xfce. It is _realy_ fast and looks nice and modern. Modern? If it still looks like CDE (which it did when I tried it a couple of weeks ago), it looks rather outdated in my eyes... ;-) Looks like I have to retract that comment - XFCE4 indeed seems to be a huge improvement over XFCE3, if the screenshots are anything to go by... Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2 == - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: So after looking at the thread I started (the one about why RH90 is slower than Win98) I came to conlusion that I will move people to Linux in stages. First I want to change common use workstations to linux. My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. Which window manager I should go with? Use the Enlightenment desktop (www.enlightenment.org). E kicks the ass of all other desktops! Trust me. Nothing beats the robust, extreme configurable and fast loading E. -- Didier PhD student Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS) 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
Hello, you could use xfce. It is _realy_ fast and looks nice and modern. I downloaded it yesterday, compiled it and installed it. Rather simple. I am using kde 3.1 and it was realy a difference, how the windows popped up and moved. Right from the personal fealing it seams, that rograms start faster than with kde, since the drawing on the screen is faster. regards Cornelius Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: So after looking at the thread I started (the one about why RH90 is slower than Win98) I came to conlusion that I will move people to Linux in stages. First I want to change common use workstations to linux. My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. Which window manager I should go with? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
I use Window Maker, for my is the best one, it is so fast, what about RAM...? for wm RAM is not a problem...;-) Regards --- Cornelius_Kölbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hello, you could use xfce. It is _realy_ fast and looks nice and modern. I downloaded it yesterday, compiled it and installed it. Rather simple. I am using kde 3.1 and it was realy a difference, how the windows popped up and moved. Right from the personal fealing it seams, that rograms start faster than with kde, since the drawing on the screen is faster. regards Cornelius Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: So after looking at the thread I started (the one about why RH90 is slower than Win98) I came to conlusion that I will move people to Linux in stages. First I want to change common use workstations to linux. My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. Which window manager I should go with? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list = -- Manuel Aróstegui Linux user 200896 ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... http://messenger.yahoo.es -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:13:42PM -0500, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. I seriously doubt that there are any WMs that can't set up background and a couple of icons but I'll go with IceWM or XFCE since they're easy to configure. Emmanuel -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:12:41PM +0200, Manuel Aróstegui Ramirez wrote: I use Window Maker, for my is the best one, it is so fast, what about RAM...? for wm RAM is not a problem...;-) Right. Also, Window Maker is extremely easy to configure and there are tons of themes available for it... ;-) Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2 == - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:40:22AM +0200, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: you could use xfce. It is _realy_ fast and looks nice and modern. Modern? If it still looks like CDE (which it did when I tried it a couple of weeks ago), it looks rather outdated in my eyes... ;-) But that's a matter of personal preference, of course... Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2 == - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:20:02PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: Modern? If it still looks like CDE (which it did when I tried it a couple of weeks ago), it looks rather outdated in my eyes... ;-) Intrestingly enough, I feel it looks like Mac OS X, the most modern operating system out there right now. But that's a matter of personal preference, of course... Stuff like WMs, file managers and email clients are very personal. You can't really base your decision on somebody else's opinion. Emmanuel -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
Well I guess, I have to take a look at wm then... Cornelius T. Ribbrock wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:40:22AM +0200, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: you could use xfce. It is _realy_ fast and looks nice and modern. Modern? If it still looks like CDE (which it did when I tried it a couple of weeks ago), it looks rather outdated in my eyes... ;-) But that's a matter of personal preference, of course... Cheerio, Thomas -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: XFCE 4 (was Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox,FWM, or something else?)
I tried using XFCE 4. Yet to determine whether it is faster than GNOME/KDE. However, the issue I have with XFCE 4 is that I can't find any menus entries / launchers that I have in KDE or GNOME. Is there anyway to import KDE / GNOME menus into XFCE desktop? On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 08:50, Brian Ashe wrote: Apollo (Carmel Entertainment), On Wednesday June 25, 2003 05:13, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: So after looking at the thread I started (the one about why RH90 is slower than Win98) I came to conlusion that I will move people to Linux in stages. First I want to change common use workstations to linux. My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. Which window manager I should go with? I put my vote in for XFCE 4. I know it's in beta right now, but it is stable (has been for a while now, I was running the CVS versions), fast and nice. Uses the GTK2 libraries (so is highly compatble with GNOME apps), has the anti-aliasing of fonts, simple yet still attractive, easy to use and configure. They also have RH 9 rpms ready to go. http://www.xfce.org/ Download... http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=19869 -- Brian Ashe CTO Dee-Web Software Services, LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dee-web.com/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: and a couple of icons but I'll go with IceWM or XFCE since they're easy to configure. XFCE is nice when it's running, but getting it installed is a pain. Even with the RPM's, there are *way* too many of them to consider it a newbie installation. Last time I checked, there were six or seven different packages that needed to be installed to get XFCE functional. -- Sen. Orrin Hatch thinks destroying private property to ensure bigger campaign contributions from media cartels is good politics. Let your senators know that supporting corporate vigilantes will bite them in the political posterior next election day. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethin g else?
I use primarily fluxbox. The install is just a tgz so its pretty simple. I think the download file is about 500K...so its nice, small, yet powerful. Eric -Original Message- From: Todd A. Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else? On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: and a couple of icons but I'll go with IceWM or XFCE since they're easy to configure. XFCE is nice when it's running, but getting it installed is a pain. Even with the RPM's, there are *way* too many of them to consider it a newbie installation. Last time I checked, there were six or seven different packages that needed to be installed to get XFCE functional. -- Sen. Orrin Hatch thinks destroying private property to ensure bigger campaign contributions from media cartels is good politics. Let your senators know that supporting corporate vigilantes will bite them in the political posterior next election day. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM,or something else?
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:55, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: and a couple of icons but I'll go with IceWM or XFCE since they're easy to configure. XFCE is nice when it's running, but getting it installed is a pain. Even with the RPM's, there are *way* too many of them to consider it a newbie installation. Last time I checked, there were six or seven different packages that needed to be installed to get XFCE functional. Huh. I must have done something wrong then I only installed one. Since this thread started I have played with Icewm and xfce on my 7.3 laptop. I punted on nautilus over a year ago but still use gnome. Thing are faster without gnome. I have not had a chance to dink much with xfce and I am not sure I like the task bar thing since it it big and I am used to gnome panel with small icons and can keep it on top. Bret -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:59:15AM +1000, Stephen Kuhn wrote: emacs for a word processor... Hmm... I think you mean emacs for a text editor and LaTeX for a word processor... Now THAT almost scares even me... ;-) Cheers, -- Javier Gostling D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
Same here... Having been influenced by what has been said in this thread, I decided to give a try to WindowMaker / BlackBox / XCFE. As far as xfce is concerned, I only found one RPM in SourceForge (and I don't think anything is missing). I don't like too much, though - BlackBox seems to be my new love... Bret Hughes wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:55, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: and a couple of icons but I'll go with IceWM or XFCE since they're easy to configure. XFCE is nice when it's running, but getting it installed is a pain. Even with the RPM's, there are *way* too many of them to consider it a newbie installation. Last time I checked, there were six or seven different packages that needed to be installed to get XFCE functional. Huh. I must have done something wrong then I only installed one. Since this thread started I have played with Icewm and xfce on my 7.3 laptop. I punted on nautilus over a year ago but still use gnome. Thing are faster without gnome. I have not had a chance to dink much with xfce and I am not sure I like the task bar thing since it it big and I am used to gnome panel with small icons and can keep it on top. Bret -- Panos Platon Tsapralis, Software Engineer, SAP-R/3 specialist, ABAP/4 developer, Registered Linux User #305894, Ximian Evolution (ver.1.4) on Red Hat Linux (8.0), Athens, GREECE, cell-phone: +306946462857, fax: +302108054420, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, orsomething else?
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 04:27, Bret Hughes wrote: Huh. I must have done something wrong then I only installed one. Since this thread started I have played with Icewm and xfce on my 7.3 laptop. I punted on nautilus over a year ago but still use gnome. Thing are faster without gnome. The latest version of XFCE (which is XFCE4beta2) has at leats 11 RPM's to install for full functionality. It really isn't a newbie installation and in and of the fact that the newbie then has to manually edit .xsession and .xinitrc files, well, I wouldn't wish that on a newbie unless they REALLY REALLY wanted a quick'n'dirty lesson on the *NIX file structure and it's operation...which most don't. I have not had a chance to dink much with xfce and I am not sure I like the task bar thing since it it big and I am used to gnome panel with small icons and can keep it on top. The latest version is leaps and bounds beyond XFCE3 (and all previous versions) - there is still a smacking of CDE about it, but GTK integration, theming, taskbar, icon box - and other cool function make it so much more betta! -- Fri Jun 27 09:05:00 EST 2003 09:05:00 up 2 days, 8:51, 3 users, load average: 0.95, 1.00, 0.95 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Harrisberger's Fourth Law of the Lab: Experience is directly proportional to the amount of equipment ruined. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: XFCE 4 (was Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox,FWM, or something else?)
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 02:15, Nilesh Sahita wrote: I tried using XFCE 4. Yet to determine whether it is faster than GNOME/KDE. However, the issue I have with XFCE 4 is that I can't find any menus entries / launchers that I have in KDE or GNOME. Is there anyway to import KDE / GNOME menus into XFCE desktop? You can use MenuMaker 0.80 + a diff patch that allows for the creation of an entire menu structure from your existing KDE/GNOME menus - BTW, you can edit the actual root menu at $PREFIX/etc/xfce4/menu.xml -- Fri Jun 27 09:10:00 EST 2003 09:10:00 up 2 days, 8:56, 3 users, load average: 0.92, 0.97, 0.95 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I am a deeply superficial person. -- Andy Warhol -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
Well, I am the guy who started this thread. XFCE is EXACTLY what I wanted. What I did was I re-installed RH9.0 with KDE and Gnome programs I like and after that did all 11 XFCE rpms! XFCE has almost everything I need, other stuff is taken from KDE and XFCE launches it for me. I can tell you that I have been looking for this solution for a long time. XFCE install using RPMs was EASY! All I need to do now is get Access97 (or 2000) going with Wine and teach people to use OpenOffice and I will have my Dir. of Operations happy happy happy, plus I won't have to worry about people wasting my time with numerous problems that happen when your servers are Linux and workstations are Win98. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
So after looking at the thread I started (the one about why RH90 is slower than Win98) I came to conlusion that I will move people to Linux in stages. First I want to change common use workstations to linux. My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. Which window manager I should go with? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 07:13, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: So after looking at the thread I started (the one about why RH90 is slower than Win98) I came to conlusion that I will move people to Linux in stages. First I want to change common use workstations to linux. My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. Which window manager I should go with? You could use ROX as your session manager and BB as the window manager; then you'd have the ability to have set icons on a desktop along with a graphic background, and you can then limit the root menu for BB so the users would be locked into a particular setup. -- Thu Jun 26 08:00:00 EST 2003 08:00:00 up 1 day, 7:46, 2 users, load average: 0.61, 0.49, 0.38 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Many people are secretly interested in life. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:13:42PM -0500, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: [...] My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. Which window manager I should go with? I can recommend Window Maker, which would seem to fit the bill very well. Unfortunately, RH decided not to include it anymore, but you can either rebuild the RH8 ones or the Mandrake RPMs, the latter being newer. Have a look at http://www.windowmaker.org Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2 == - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
Hi Apollo, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: So after looking at the thread I started (the one about why RH90 is slower than Win98) I came to conlusion that I will move people to Linux in stages. First I want to change common use workstations to linux. Moving people to Linux in batches is - IMHO - a good strategy, especially if you take some time to carefully design the intermediate steps (who goes first / second / etc.) and, also, if you can allocate enough time for testing compatibility / conversion issues (don't forget: even if you successfully move your organization to Linux, the world, out there, is still M$-dominated and, therefore, you need to make sure that your users still fit in that world smoothly...). My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch I never believed in display icons being useful to the users: after all, most of the time, they are hidden behind the applications' window(s) - except for those 5 minutes each morning, when each user starts his/her daily computer activities. On the other hand, I find that a reasonably organized menu along with a carefully selected hot-key combination (to bring it up) is much more useful for the average user. OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. Wine emulation (or, even better, Codeweavers' Crossover Office - if you can afford the licensing costs) is a good intermediate (short-term) solution, so as to smoothen the impact from the transition to Linux for your end-users (it is also useful if you need to use an exotic Windows-based application, that has no descent Linux equivalent (e.g., Microsoft Project). However, if you are going to dive into the Linux waters, why not go all the way? I believe that OpenOffice.org / Sun's StarOffice are rather good choices for daily office work (they may lack some rather exotic features, found in MS Office, but I wouldn't worry much about this, since most office users need these features once or twice in their lifetime...). Which window manager I should go with? My preference: BlackBox, with WindowMaker being second close. My advice: take your time in selecting and putting together the elements of the integrated solution (your desktop standard), such as menus, applications, access rights / permissions, etc., then select a small group of volunteering power users, that will be willing to test your solution, before you deploy it to the rest of your organization. Also, offer some training options to your people (online / Web-based training seminars, CBT's, etc.) and, most important of all GET COMMITMENT from your management (these guys are mostly interested about money profits, so, preparing a business case, that will show them some financial benefits from migrating to Linux, is - IMNSHO - a must...). Good luck, -- Panos Platon Tsapralis, Software Engineer, SAP-R/3 specialist, ABAP/4 developer, Registered Linux User #305894, Ximian Evolution (ver.1.4) on Red Hat Linux (8.0), Athens, GREECE, cell-phone: +306946462857, fax: +302108054420, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: Which window manager I should go with? Personally, I'm using ROX with TWM, and it flies. Note that if you use such a setup, you'll need to configure ROX's compatibility options to: 1. Overrride TWM's control of rox panels 2. Pass all backdrop clicks to TWM (or you lose TWM's menus) You can then add 'rox -b bottom-panel ' to your .Xclients-default and away you go. Note that ROX has some peculiarities. It isn't perfect. But it basically does the job that Nautilus does for GNOME, but faster. You can then setup applications in either TWM or ROX. If you're looking for something less avante-garde and easier to install and configure, I'd recommend WindowMaker instead. It's basic but functional, and has built-in support for a clip and dock. There's going to be a bit of a learning curve no matter what you choose, so pick a window manager and filer that you like, and see how well they work together for you. -- Sen. Orrin Hatch thinks destroying private property to ensure bigger campaign contributions from media cartels is good politics. Let your senators know that supporting corporate vigilantes will bite them in the political posterior next election day. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Todd A. Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: Which window manager I should go with? Personally, I'm using ROX with TWM, and it flies. Note that if you use such a setup, you'll need to configure ROX's compatibility options to: 1. Overrride TWM's control of rox panels 2. Pass all backdrop clicks to TWM (or you lose TWM's menus) Give ratpoison a try. No eye-candy or decorations, but fully functional, small footprint and fast as lightining! Best, Mike -- The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life --Muhammad Ali -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?
Apollo (Carmel Entertainment), On Wednesday June 25, 2003 05:13, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: So after looking at the thread I started (the one about why RH90 is slower than Win98) I came to conlusion that I will move people to Linux in stages. First I want to change common use workstations to linux. My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to launch OpenOffice applications and several Wine emulated MS apps. Which window manager I should go with? I put my vote in for XFCE 4. I know it's in beta right now, but it is stable (has been for a while now, I was running the CVS versions), fast and nice. Uses the GTK2 libraries (so is highly compatble with GNOME apps), has the anti-aliasing of fonts, simple yet still attractive, easy to use and configure. They also have RH 9 rpms ready to go. http://www.xfce.org/ Download... http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=19869 -- Brian Ashe CTO Dee-Web Software Services, LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dee-web.com/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or somethingelse?
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 10:25, Michael Scottaline wrote: Give ratpoison a try. No eye-candy or decorations, but fully functional, small footprint and fast as lightining! Best, Mike Actually, wouldn't that be a great migration from WinXP? PINE/MUTT for email, emacs for a word processor...yowzah! Love to see the looks on end-users' faces when they saw THAT on a Monday morning! (g) -- Thu Jun 26 10:55:00 EST 2003 10:55:00 up 1 day, 10:41, 2 users, load average: 0.18, 0.18, 0.15 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * You'll feel much better once you've given up hope. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
window manager
Hi, I am currently using kde desktop but I would like to switch to gnome default desktop but I am unsure hoe to do this. Can someone tell me how. Thanks -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: window manager
Use the desktop switching tool. Look in your Kmenu under system. John Salamone wrote: Hi, I am currently using kde desktop but I would like to switch to gnome default desktop but I am unsure hoe to do this. Can someone tell me how. Thanks -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: window manager
Or at log in time. Just pick session, and select the one you want. Ric John Nichel wrote: Use the desktop switching tool. Look in your Kmenu under system. John Salamone wrote: Hi, I am currently using kde desktop but I would like to switch to gnome default desktop but I am unsure hoe to do this. Can someone tell me how. Thanks -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: window manager
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 03:05, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: Or at log in time. Just pick session, and select the one you want. Ric John Nichel wrote: Use the desktop switching tool. Look in your Kmenu under system. John Salamone wrote: Hi, I am currently using kde desktop but I would like to switch to gnome default desktop but I am unsure hoe to do this. Can someone tell me how. Thanks Or maybe do a right-click on the desktop, choose RUN COMMAND, type in switchdesk, choose the wm you want to run. -- OzIT Support * http://www.ozitsupport.com.au Stephen Kuhn | Help Desk Professional Australia's Premier Computer Specialists Call us at: 1-902-225-000 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to use Sawfish window manager instead Metacity ?
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Laurent ZUDAIRE wrote: How to use Sawfish window manager instead Metacity ? # .bash_profile export WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/sawfish -- Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. - Unknown -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
How to use Sawfish window manager instead Metacity ?
RedHat 8 How to use Sawfish window manager instead Metacity ? Thanks for help -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Window Manager Redhat 8
I recently installed a test server running Redhat 8. Switch from Sawfish to Metacity was like going backwards, so I installed sawfish and used the following command to switch it: killall metacity sawfish My question, where is the windowmanger choice stored in Redhat 8? How can I change the windowmanger for the individual user and/or systemwide? Aaron -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Window Manager Redhat 8
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:07:00AM -0400, Aaron Rolett wrote:
: I recently installed a test server running Redhat 8. Switch from Sawfish
: to Metacity was like going backwards, so I installed sawfish and used
: the following command to switch it:
:
: killall metacity sawfish
:
: My question, where is the windowmanger choice stored in Redhat 8? How
: can I change the windowmanger for the individual user and/or systemwide?
I haven't dug enough through to tell you how to do it system-wide, but
if you use the gconf editing tool, you'll find it and be able to change the
WM to sawfish.
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Alternate window manager in Gnome?
I've been unable to find a capplet for changing the default window manager in Gnome under 8.0. The window-minimizing animation is driving me batty, but I can't seem to find a place to edit that, either. Metacity seems to have zero documentation: no man pages, no info pages, and no FAQ on ye olde home page. Anyone figured this horrible thing out yet--especially the part of how one gets rid of it without having to dump gnome, too? -- The only thing that helps me maintain my slender grip on reality is the friendship I share with my collection of singing potatoes. - Holly, JMC Vessel *Red Dwarf* -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Alternate window manager in Gnome?
Well, I still can't figure out how to make metacity behave like a decent window manager, but I finally figured out how to replace it. (What was Red Hat thinking when they took away the nice little window manager configuration applet?) Anyway, the trick is to define the WINDOW_MANAGER environment variable in your .bash_profile so that gnome-session will use that program instead of the (evil, evil!) default. Of course, you'll have to log out and back in again for that to take effect. Alas, I'm not sure how to switch wm's within the current session, but this is most definitely still progress. -- The only thing that helps me maintain my slender grip on reality is the friendship I share with my collection of singing potatoes. - Holly, JMC Vessel *Red Dwarf* -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Alternate window manager in Gnome?
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: I've been unable to find a capplet for changing the default window manager in Gnome under 8.0. The window-minimizing animation is driving me batty, but I can't seem to find a place to edit that, either. I know that removing the animation thingie was discussed on the psyche-list just recently. Sorry I don't remember where, but it is accessible from the menu. You might checking that lists archives. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Sawfish window manager broken?
Hi, I managed to install RH 7.3 eventually. I have currently a problem with sawfish: under Gnome, I use the sawfish window manager, but cannot manage to configure it. Every time I access the Sawfish tools (e.g., from the Gnome control center), it keeps saying that sawfish is not running, while this is not the truth. Does someone have an idea? Thanks Marc -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: window manager choice ???
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 02:06:42PM +0200, Yohann DESQUERRE (DSI NOISIEL) wrote: I've got a small configuration(2MO Video RAM), which window manager is better to use in that case !!! I made very good experiences with Window Maker on such configurations (and smaller ones). One thing I like about it is that it can dither the background image and that you can tell it not to use more than N colours for itself, which makes it a good choice for 8bit displays. Plus it's still relatively lightweight while still being comfortable and configurable. Cheerio, Thomas -- http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html ...'cause only lusers quote signatures! Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.ribbrock.org | ICQ#: 15839919 You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: window manager choice ???
Tuesday, at 14:06, Yohann DESQUERRE (DSI NOISIEL) sent through the Star Gate: Hi, I've got a small configuration(2MO Video RAM), which window manager is better to use in that case !!! Fvwm works well. I don't recommend using any programs that are heavy in graphics. Pine for email, Lynx as a web browser... Here are the rpms for the latest Fvwm build for RH 7.x and RH 6.x, respectively. http://members.fcwm.org/glen/rpms/fvwm-2.4.7-1.rh7.i386.rpm http://members.fcwm.org/glen/rpms/fvwm-2.4.7-1.i386.rpm Glen ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Controlling a GUI (window manager functions) from the command line...
On 19:29 17 Apr 2002, Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 09:28, Henrik Schmiediche wrote: | I am running RH7.2 with KDE 2.2.2. Is it possible to control a window from | the command line. For example, if I want to start a program from a shell | script and then minimize or maximize it without user intervention - can that | be done? | | With KDE? Probably not. However, sawfish can be controlled using the | 'sawfish-client' and LISP. I don't have a working example of such a | script, though. Fvwm has such functionality too. -- Cameron Simpson, DoD#743[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/ It is without question that planning should be for the long term. Not for the next day, but for the next millenium. Otherwise we shall not survive. - Craig Dewick (Freight Raver Craig) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RE : window manager choice ???
On Apr 17, 2002, 09:12 (-0500) Fred Dech wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:17:50PM -0700, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: --- Fred Dech wrote: http://www.fvwm.org/ read FAQ and README's in spare time i guess they don't come as RPMs, so you'd want to do a tar-ball install ... I think they have *lots* of RPM's there ... Regards Wolfgang sorry. ... absolutely no problem, Fred :) And furthermore, you clearly said: i guess they don't come as RPMs [ ... ] ^ Regards Wolfgang you are absolutely right. there's a whole slew of them that i somehow managed to never peek at before! themes too. [ ... ] -- http://www.geocities.com/wolfgangpfeiffer/ -- Tom Waits going Casablanca with Alice :) .. : 2 new MP3's:http://www.anti.com/ -- END TRANSMISSION -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Controlling a GUI (window manager functions) from the commandline...
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 09:28, Henrik Schmiediche wrote: I am running RH7.2 with KDE 2.2.2. Is it possible to control a window from the command line. For example, if I want to start a program from a shell script and then minimize or maximize it without user intervention - can that be done? With KDE? Probably not. However, sawfish can be controlled using the 'sawfish-client' and LISP. I don't have a working example of such a script, though. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
window manager choice ???
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Re: window manager choice ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 02:06:42PM +0200, Yohann DESQUERRE (DSI NOISIEL) wrote: I've got a small configuration(2MO Video RAM), which window manager is better to use in that case !!! The default wm (sawfish) is pretty good, you just have to use simple backgrounds and avoid pixmap themes. Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ Linux: the choice of a GNU Generation. http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE8vBjqpCpg3WyUI50RAm7nAKCL5AqU0On/iMfu4lLlXNSp9JEEzACdGlvK 7DPu7xrscPTO8S+3Jvxu3u4= =h07v -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: window manager choice ???
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 08:28:35AM -0400, Anthony E. Greene wrote: I've got a small configuration(2MO Video RAM), which window manager is better to use in that case !!! 2Mo of Video RAM is small Why, when I was young, The default wm (sawfish) is pretty good, you just have to use simple backgrounds and avoid pixmap themes. I use fvwm2 myself. Lightweight and very flexible. Emmanuel ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE : window manager choice ???
May you tell me the way to install it !!! -Message d'origine- De : Emmanuel Seyman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : mardi 16 avril 2002 15:10 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: window manager choice ??? On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 08:28:35AM -0400, Anthony E. Greene wrote: I've got a small configuration(2MO Video RAM), which window manager is better to use in that case !!! 2Mo of Video RAM is small Why, when I was young, The default wm (sawfish) is pretty good, you just have to use simple backgrounds and avoid pixmap themes. I use fvwm2 myself. Lightweight and very flexible. Emmanuel ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RE : window manager choice ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 03:23:45PM +0200, Yohann DESQUERRE (DSI NOISIEL) wrote: May you tell me the way to install it !!! If you're using Red Hat 7.2, it should already be installed. If it is not, then use rpm -ivh /path/sawfish*.rpm Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ Linux: the choice of a GNU Generation. http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE8vDAhpCpg3WyUI50RAmC+AJ9xgNS1HP3tjfmG7DW7rRn8OwKJtgCg1D8T /wrkGOQdWhc4EtQ2CeNu+cY= =ilyw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RE : window manager choice ???
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 03:23:45PM +0200, Yohann DESQUERRE (DSI NOISIEL) wrote: May you tell me the way to install it !!! You'll need to install the fvwm2 and fvwm2-icons rpms that should be on your RH CD. Use the switchdesk program to choose AnotherLevel as desktop and you should be set. Emmanuel ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RE : window manager choice ???
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 04:11:58PM +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 03:23:45PM +0200, Yohann DESQUERRE (DSI NOISIEL) wrote: May you tell me the way to install it !!! You'll need to install the fvwm2 and fvwm2-icons rpms that should be on your RH CD. Use the switchdesk program to choose AnotherLevel as desktop and you should be set. Emmanuel i don't think it's quite that straightforward; at least not when i made the big switch to fvwm2. it isn't supported by GNOME. which is good, if you're worried about sparing memory, not so sure about TRAM. if you don't wanna futz around much, i'd recommend you stick with some of the plug and play WMs or GIs (e.g., KDE). to run fvwm2 you wanna check out: http://www.fvwm.org/ read FAQ and README's in spare time i guess they don't come as RPMs, so you'd want to do a tar-ball install if you want the latest version. don't forget to remove the rpm versions! i'd hate to contemplate what might happen otherwise. grab system.fvwm2rc from $FVWMHOME/sample.fvwmrc/. and drop it into your home directory as .fvwm2rc. fvwm2 don't work without that in your home directory. start reading the man pages. http://www.geocities.com/bluesmani/ is one of many themes links 1. modify /etc/inttab to bring your system up in level 3 rather than level 5: #id:5:initdefault: id:3:initdefault: that will then boot you up WMless.s 2. then create a $HOME/.xinitrc, if you don't already have one, and do something like: #!/bin/csh -f #exec /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 exec fvwm2 -cmd FvwmM4 -m4-prefix $HOME/.fvwm2rc i started with the simple and moved to more complex to fit my needs. 3. type startx from your level3 command prompt and you are one your way to becoming another of the millions of satisfied fvwm2 users! if this sounds like a royal PIA. it is. don't go here unless, like me, you just can't be satisfied with GNOME or KDE. --fred ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE : RE : window manager choice ???
To add it to the choice when starting in runlevel 5 (for the moment i see KDE or GNOME) which files neede to be modified??? Is the graphical interface in which whe can choose window manager called xdm ??? PS:please apologize my poor english-language !!! -Message d'origine- De : Anthony E. Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : mardi 16 avril 2002 16:08 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: RE : window manager choice ??? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 03:23:45PM +0200, Yohann DESQUERRE (DSI NOISIEL) wrote: May you tell me the way to install it !!! If you're using Red Hat 7.2, it should already be installed. If it is not, then use rpm -ivh /path/sawfish*.rpm Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ Linux: the choice of a GNU Generation. http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE8vDAhpCpg3WyUI50RAmC+AJ9xgNS1HP3tjfmG7DW7rRn8OwKJtgCg1D8T /wrkGOQdWhc4EtQ2CeNu+cY= =ilyw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RE : window manager choice ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Dech wrote: You'll need to install the fvwm2 and fvwm2-icons rpms that should be on your RH CD. Use the switchdesk program to choose AnotherLevel as desktop and you should be set. i don't think it's quite that straightforward; at least not when i made the big switch to fvwm2. it isn't supported by GNOME. which is good, if you're worried about sparing memory, not so sure about TRAM. if you don't wanna futz around much, i'd recommend you stick with some of the plug and play WMs or GIs (e.g., KDE). I'm not sure that makes much sense. If resources are tight, you're not going to save nearly as much by merely switching window managers as you will by dumping Gnome and/or KDE altogether. They're piggy. fvwm2 is a good (fast) choice. I also hear good things about XFce in that regard, though I've not tried it. - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPLxTtL9BpdPKTBGtEQK5swCcDSq0Yp5GglJJmF/Hvi9O1BxuslMAoNL6 mbOV4XjHgmPgXab45Z9VWAOs =MEV+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RE : window manager choice ???
fvwm2 is a good (fast) choice. I also hear good things about XFce in that regard, though I've not tried it. - -d - -- David Talkington I have been using Xfce for years and love it. Linda Hanigan ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
window manager not working properly; HELP
I turned my computer on this morning and when Xwindow started, it is messed up. The only thing I am able to do is run one xterm. From there I can run any application which will start from a command line. I looked through my home directory and cannot find the configuration file for starting my window manager. I am running RH7.2 and was running gnome and sawfish when I last was using the computer. I would appreciate any suggestions. david ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: window manager not working properly; HELP
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, dave brett wrote: I turned my computer on this morning and when Xwindow started, it is messed up. The only thing I am able to do is run one xterm. From there I can run any application which will start from a command line. I looked through my home directory and cannot find the configuration file for starting my window manager. I am running RH7.2 and was running gnome and sawfish when I last was using the computer. I would appreciate any suggestions. david Sounds like you somehow nuked your config files for X, so when you log into X, it starts w/ twm, which, as you have noted, is rather feature-poor ;) I'm not that familiar w/ the config files that you need to be able to help you reconstruct them, other than to suggest a couple things. 1) If you use kdm/gdm to log in to X, you might try something other than 'Default'. Try specifying GNOME or KDE and see how that works, if it does at all. 2) Try creating another user, and copy the dot-files for X created by default from their /home directory. Alternately, you could copy from /etc/skel/ which is where the system stores them, I believe. HTH, Monte _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sawfish window manager crashes
"Michael S. McLeod" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am running RH7, when I try to run the "Sawfish Window Mangaer" it crashes (stops). I have to use "Kill App" to close the window. No error messages are desplayed. Anybody have any ideas what is wrong and how to fix it? Clean install or anything you've installed yourself on top (either manually, or with Helix)? -- Trond Eivind Glomsrd Red Hat, Inc. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sawfish window manager crashes
Mostly a clean install, I have tried installing the new Helix code (Ximian) to see if it would fix the problem but it didn't. I tried to install WP8 but because the RH7 libc is the wrong version for WP8 that didn't work. I had the problem with Sawfish before the install. Otherwise I have installed no additional software. FYI my system is as follows: AMD K6 2-350, 160 Meg RAM, Linux lives in it's own 2G hard drive. Michael Trond Eivind Glomsrd wrote: "Michael S. McLeod" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am running RH7, when I try to run the "Sawfish Window Mangaer" it crashes (stops). I have to use "Kill App" to close the window. No error messages are desplayed. Anybody have any ideas what is wrong and how to fix it? Clean install or anything you've installed yourself on top (either manually, or with Helix)? -- Trond Eivind Glomsrd Red Hat, Inc. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Sawfish window manager crashes
I am running RH7, when I try to run the "Sawfish Window Mangaer" it crashes (stops). I have to use "Kill App" to close the window. No error messages are desplayed. Anybody have any ideas what is wrong and how to fix it? Michael ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Most stable window manager?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 11:40:01PM -0400, Statux wrote: WindowMaker is one of the best out there. :) However, the 0.62.x versions tend to have problems with 8bit displays - there has been a lot of talk about this on the mailing lists. Unfortunately, 0.62.x also fix some annoying buglets which 0.61.x had, which makes an upgrade attractive... My EUR0.02, Thomas -- "Look, Ma, no obsolete quotes and plain text only!" Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.bigfoot.com/~kaytan | ICQ#: 15839919 "You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!" ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Most stable window manager?
unfortunately? sounds pretty good to me :) Who uses 8bit anymore? :) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Most stable window manager?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Chip Rose. wrote: Which window manager is rated as the most stable? I like Blackbox because it's fast and seems a lot more stable than KDE. Any other suggestions? Blackbox has some very nice graphics. In addition to the suggestions which have been made (all good so far), I can say that once set up, Sawfish has never crashed on me. That's saying quite a bit for such a young program. I run GNOME with Sawfish but I'm also going to chime in here. If you aren't running GNOME, WindowMaker is the best stand alone WM out there. Absolutely hands down. Tom === Quote of the day for August 16th, 2000 I always turn to the sports pages first, which records people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures. - Chief Justice Earl Warren ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Most stable window manager?
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Thomas R. Shannon wrote: In addition to the suggestions which have been made (all good so far), I can say that once set up, Sawfish has never crashed on me. That's saying quite a bit for such a young program. I run GNOME with Sawfish but I'm also going to chime in here. If you aren't running GNOME, WindowMaker is the best stand alone WM out there. Absolutely hands down. I prefer Afterstep out of all that I tried. I didn't spend all that much time with WindowMaker, I admit. I've had AfterStep stay up for several month's at a time (ie, login once and work work work). Limited KDE or Gnome support, but then those are a little bloated for my tastes anyway. Bill Carlson Systems Programmer[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Opinions are mine, Virtual Hospital http://www.vh.org/| not my employer's. University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics| ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Most stable window manager?
Which window manager is rated as the most stable? I like Blackbox because it's fast and seems a lot more stable than KDE. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Chip Rose. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Most stable window manager?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 04:43:06AM +, Chip Rose. wrote: Which window manager is rated as the most stable? twm. It comes standard with the X. It's very stable because it is very simple and hasn't changed much in 10 years. I like Blackbox because it's fast and seems a lot more stable than KDE. Any other suggestions? xfce is also good, so is Window Maker. I think icewm is similar to blackbox. -- Steve Borho Voice: 314-429-8300 ext:3042 Member of Technical Staff Celox Networking Inc Fortune of the day: Women aren't as mere as they used to be. -- Pogo ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Most stable window manager?
WindowMaker is one of the best out there. :) On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Chip Rose. wrote: Which window manager is rated as the most stable? I like Blackbox because it's fast and seems a lot more stable than KDE. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Chip Rose. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
.xinitrc - default window manager
On redhat 6.2 what src.rpm contains the default .xinitrc file. I'd like to change it so that it starts up with a different window manager on a fresh install. Thanks, Frank ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: .xinitrc - default window manager
On redhat 6.2 what src.rpm contains the default .xinitrc file. I'd like to change it so that it starts up with a different window manager on a fresh install. Thanks, Frank okay I feel stupid. Its in the xinitrc src.rpm. What I should have said was where does Redhat define which window manager gets loaded. I know that GNOME and E start up. Where is this defined so I can get rid of it and use another WM instead? Thanks, Frank ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: .xinitrc - default window manager
BTW, are you creating your own distribution or something? You seem to be rebuilding a whole collection of rpms the last few days! Thank you for the explanation. Yes I am building a customized Redhat 6.2 distribution. At the moment its simply RH 6.2 with alot of different packages so its not really a different distribution yet. Hope so someday though. I am doing this for fun, and to learn RPM and Python, etc. I must be a total geek because I think this stuff is s fun. Anyway thank you, Frank ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: window manager...
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 01:36:15AM -0300, robsmith wrote: Since everyone loves the "which window manager is best discussion"...I figured I would ask which is better sawfish or sawmill they seem very similiar to me...any major differences? Actualy they are the same window manager. Sawmill was renamed Sawfish due to some conflict with an existing package. i.o.w. sawfish is just the newer version of sawmill. Nico "It has been said that there are only two businesses refer to customers as users: illegal drug trade and the computer industry." Nico De Ranter Sony Service Center (SDCE/DME-B) Sint Stevens Woluwestraat 55 (Rue de Woluwe-Saint-Etienne) 1130 Brussel (Bruxelles), Belgium, Europe, Earth Telephone: +32 2 724 86 41 Telefax: +32 2 726 26 86 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: window manager...
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, you wrote: Since everyone loves the "which window manager is best discussion"...I figured I would ask which is better sawfish or sawmill they seem very similiar to me...any major differences? IIRC, SawMill is just "Sawfish" renamed, due to potential trademark infringements. John ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Window manager
Hello to all ... I wondered what window manager you will recommend me if I want it to be fast and easy to use (menu access to apps, for ex.). I have a P-150 and I don't use GNOME or KDE. Thanks for the reply Kerem ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Window manager
I love xfce Linda Hanigan ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Window manager
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Kerem Unal wrote: Hello to all ... I wondered what window manager you will recommend me if I want it to be fast and easy to use (menu access to apps, for ex.). I have a P-150 and I don't use GNOME or KDE. I usually recommend WindowMaker under these circumstances. Sawmill is good too and really lite weight, but it lacks a few features without GNOME/KDE. WindowMaker has more features by itself and is still really lite on the resources. Others here have already entioned XFCE which I have also tried and liked (though not as much as WM). You may want to look at it as well. Avoid Enlightenment which is excellent but is really made for circumstances where resources aren't as limited. Good Luck, Tom = Quote of the day for August 8th, 2000 Let us be of good cheer, remembering that the misfortunes hardest to bear are those which will never happen. - James Russel Lowell ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Window manager
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Kerem Unal wrote: Hello to all ... I wondered what window manager you will recommend me if I want it to be fast and easy to use (menu access to apps, for ex.). I have a P-150 and I don't use GNOME or KDE. I'd recommend WindowMaker. It's relatively lightweight, quite fast, has nice little applets and you can run Gnome apps on it. It's Drag 'n' Drop is compatible with gmc even. I've used it on anything from a 486DX50 and up. Vik :v) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
window manager...
Since everyone loves the "which window manager is best discussion"...I figured I would ask which is better sawfish or sawmill they seem very similiar to me...any major differences? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Several window manager questions
1) I have got Xfree86 3.3.5 working but only at 1280X1024 resolutions, for lesser resolutions I get DISPLAY problems (screen is too large). At 1280x1024 its hard read, is there a way to increase the font size? or adjust the resolution without the DISPLAY problem. Any other suggestions 2) To enable X at boot time I have this entry id:5:initdefault in /etc/inittab. It comes up using owm window manager, is there a way to change the window manger at the boot time. I would like to use fvwm window manager. 3) How to shutdown if X was started at the boot time of linux . Ctrl Atl Del doesn't work when X is running at the login screen. I am using owm. 4) I don't see logging out option in owm. 5) When I use fvwm as my window manager, I tought I had problem with my display when I move the mouse to right or down it moves to the appropriate virtual screen which must be a feature of fvwm. Is there a way to disable this. So that it moves the appropriate virtual desktop only when I click on its icon. Thank You Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: X Window Manager Programming
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Robert Hailman wrote: Does anyone know where I could find a guide to programming Window Managers for X The O'Reilly Xlib programming reference manuals. or recommend a small ( 30k) window manager that I could use as the base for my own simple window manager? http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ may be helpful. -- Elliot When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather... ...not yelling and screaming like the people in the back of the plane he was flying. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Changing the root window manager...how?
I am running Redhat 5.0 and not too long ago, I did...something (I do not know exactly what) such that now the default window manager when I "startx" is plain ole fvwm. I hate it. I would like to get back to, I believe, fvwm2 so I can use one of the alternative "flavors", ie, fvwm95, afterstep, etc. When I log in as a regular user, no problem, I get the fvwm95 style screen but not with root. I have messed around with the .xinitrc in root, to no avail. I have messed with .wm_style in root to no avail. What file do I edit to get back to fvwm95, etc? Thanks for any help... -- This message brought to you by OS/2 Warp 4 Windows...the operating system that is even more unstable than its users. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Window Manager Menus
I have installed the _real_ AfterStep on my RH 5 box. I was wondering which file(s) control the creation of the menus in the default RH window manager (FVWM, I think). I want to add those menu items to my .steprc file. Thanks for helping an Xneophyte. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Window manager change??
On Mon, 4 May 1998, Chuck Mead wrote: /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients On 3 May, Darque wrote: OK...I give up. I have looked and looked, but been unable to find any instructions anywhere on what I need to change to make X load a different window manager than the Fvwm that cam on my RH5.0 CD. I have D/L'd Afterstep, and would like to try that, but I am at a loss... Also, can anyone tell me how I am supposed to get my PPP connection when I am not logged in as root? It seems that to make this happen, I have to activate it through the Network Config tool, but can only get to that as root. Thanx in advance! jdk From my root directory here's my .xinitrc (I run AfterStep!). I've commented it so as to explain what each line is doing! (it's simple!) exec rxvt -fg yellow -bg black -pixmap /home/chuck/porttree.xpm -T 'ws.moongroup .org -Main' #the previous line sets up an xterm (rxvt is an xterm clone which supports colored backgrounds) exec ical #the previous line runs my calendar program on bootup of the WM #exec fvwm #the previous line is commented out... it runs the fvwm WM if it's not commented out! exec afterstep #the previous line executes the AfterStep WM and should be the last line in the file Additionally there is an excellent AfterStep mailing list available... Here's a bunch of URL info on that: WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://wormhole.eosys.com/mailing-lists/AfterStep-Info.html FAQ: http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/zamboni/afterstep/FAQ.html Cheers! -- Mr. Chuck Mead [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.moongroup.com And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode. This message was sent by TkRatv1.1 -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Window manager change??
On 3 May, Darque wrote: OK...I give up. I have looked and looked, but been unable to find any instructions anywhere on what I need to change to make X load a different window manager than the Fvwm that cam on my RH5.0 CD. I have D/L'd Afterstep, and would like to try that, but I am at a loss... Also, can anyone tell me how I am supposed to get my PPP connection when I am not logged in as root? It seems that to make this happen, I have to activate it through the Network Config tool, but can only get to that as root. Thanx in advance! jdk From my root directory here's my .xinitrc (I run AfterStep!). I've commented it so as to explain what each line is doing! (it's simple!) exec rxvt -fg yellow -bg black -pixmap /home/chuck/porttree.xpm -T 'ws.moongroup .org -Main' #the previous line sets up an xterm (rxvt is an xterm clone which supports colored backgrounds) exec ical #the previous line runs my calendar program on bootup of the WM #exec fvwm #the previous line is commented out... it runs the fvwm WM if it's not commented out! exec afterstep #the previous line executes the AfterStep WM and should be the last line in the file Additionally there is an excellent AfterStep mailing list available... Here's a bunch of URL info on that: WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://wormhole.eosys.com/mailing-lists/AfterStep-Info.html FAQ: http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/zamboni/afterstep/FAQ.html Cheers! -- Mr. Chuck Mead [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.moongroup.com And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode. This message was sent by TkRatv1.1 -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
RE: Window manager change??
Hello, I am having a similar problem logging in while running xdm. No matter what I do , I cannot seem to get any window manager to come up but twm. I have changed about every "dot" file I know of (.xinitrc, .xsession, .Xclients, etc..) - inserting the line 'exec afterstep' in it as the only line - but no matter what I put in these files I always boot into twm when logging in. The only way that I can get afterstep (or anything else) to come up other than twm is to kill xdm and run startx from the command line. RedHat 5.0, Kernel 2.0.3.2 Any ideas? -Chris -Original Message- From: Hoe-Teck Wee [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 03, 1998 7:45 PM To: Darque Subject: RE: Window manager change?? Hello, jdk. instructions anywhere on what I need to change to make X load a different window manager than the Fvwm that cam on my RH5.0 CD. This method will allow u to set a diff wm for each user .. Create a script named ~/.Xclients as follows: --- #!/bin/bash ## ## # -*- sh -*- # # # # ~/.Xclients: used by startx (xinit) to start up a window manager and # # any other clients you always want to start an X session with. # # # # feel free to edit this file to suit your needs. # ## ## exec afterstep --- That's 'bout it !! :) Also, can anyone tell me how I am supposed to get my PPP connection when I am not logged in as root? /sbin/ifup ppp0, provided that you had set "USERCTL=yes" in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0. /sbin/ifdown ppp0 to shutdown the connection. Hope that helps. - hoeteck -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
RE: Window manager change??
Hello, jdk. instructions anywhere on what I need to change to make X load a different window manager than the Fvwm that cam on my RH5.0 CD. This method will allow u to set a diff wm for each user .. Create a script named ~/.Xclients as follows: --- #!/bin/bash # -*- sh -*- # # # # ~/.Xclients: used by startx (xinit) to start up a window manager and # # any other clients you always want to start an X session with.# # # # feel free to edit this file to suit your needs. # exec afterstep --- That's 'bout it !! :) Also, can anyone tell me how I am supposed to get my PPP connection when I am not logged in as root? /sbin/ifup ppp0, provided that you had set "USERCTL=yes" in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0. /sbin/ifdown ppp0 to shutdown the connection. Hope that helps. - hoeteck -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Window manager change??
OK...I give up. I have looked and looked, but been unable to find any instructions anywhere on what I need to change to make X load a different window manager than the Fvwm that cam on my RH5.0 CD. I have D/L'd Afterstep, and would like to try that, but I am at a loss... Also, can anyone tell me how I am supposed to get my PPP connection when I am not logged in as root? It seems that to make this happen, I have to activate it through the Network Config tool, but can only get to that as root. Thanx in advance! jdk -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Window manager change??
On Sun, 3 May 1998, Darque wrote: OK...I give up. I have looked and looked, but been unable to find any instructions anywhere on what I need to change to make X load a different window manager than the Fvwm that cam on my RH5.0 CD. I have D/L'd Afterstep, and would like to try that, but I am at a loss... I'm running slack at present locally and it's been a while since I installed afterstep, but this should give you a good lead... macker:/var/X11R6/lib# cat xinitrc #!/bin/sh # AfterStep v1.0 Default xinitrc export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin exec afterstep I know I got afterstep setup under rh5 once before, but it's been a while and I don't have an rh5 box with X on hand to play with to tell you... Also, can anyone tell me how I am supposed to get my PPP connection when I am not logged in as root? It seems that to make this happen, I have to activate it through the Network Config tool, but can only get to that as root. Best way to do this would be to have a ppp script running setuid root and executable by group ppp, no world-execute permissions. It runs in my mind I saw something on sunsite designed to do this securely, but again, it's been a while... Thanx in advance! jdk -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
