Re: CSRe: Mike/meters
Katarina wrote: What is the difference between a volt-ohm meter and a PWT? And what is the practical difference in terms of keeping your CS manufacture consistent? I've already ordered the PWT -- but I assumed it was only useful for making sure my distilled water was okay -- from your description it sounds like it will also help me tell approximately where I am in the process as I make my cs so I know where to end my run. So what would I need a voltage meter for? If you dig up Chuck's little jpeg diagram he attached to one of his messages earlier you'll see that he suggests using the pulser as a power supply and getting two new silver electrodes to actually go in the glass. Then you could easily put a current meter in series with one of the electrodes or measure the output voltage across the electrodes by repositioning the meter connections. The advantage of this is learning how much current your pulser actually pushes through the system. We know that too high a current tends to create larger particles. If the pulser just gives you a voltage regulated DC supply, with no built in current limiting other than the 20 milliamp max rating somebody mentioned for it, then you'll know not to push your generating time so far that you end up making big particles that don't really add to the effectiveness of your product. And how do I tell if the water is good? If it is too conductive does that mean there is too much stuff in it that I wouldn't want? And since I gather it reads in Microseimens rather than ppm - what would be too high of a reading? Others can give you their ideas, but the bottom line is if you have some water that makes good CS, that's at least one data point. Experience will show you what your limit should be. It sounds rather complicated for me to use a voltage ohms meter with my becks pulser since I would have to dismantle it in order to put anything in series - so I'd just as soon not bother if I don't need to. Also, from Chucks description I would have to get another silver electrode and add it to the mix and I don't know how that would effect the cs production. I'd still want some others' input, but I think that a PWT will give you a direct measurement of what you're really interested in. Still, being able to measure the current out put of the pulser, at least once, would tell you how long you can run things before the current takes off to unhappy levels. Please understand that all these measurements are really related. If you measure the voltage between the electrodes and the current flowing from one to the other, divide the voltage by the current, you'll get the resistance of the cell at that moment. (Literally, the water's resistance to the flow of current.) Conductance is just 1 divided by the resistance, and conductivity is just conductance normalized to a standard size of measurement cell (Bob Berger's probe with 2 one centimeter square plates one cm apart). (Boy I hope I got this part right. It's been a while since I actually *used* any of this conductance/conductivity stuff!) So you could convert your current and voltage readings to the same conductivity measurement made by the PWT by figuring out the conversion factor for your electrode spacing and surface area, plus fudge factors for temperature and god knows what else, that Hanna has already taken care of for you. So if all you wanted to know was if *this* batch had reached the same approximate conductivity as the last batch, either the PWT reading or the current reading would tell you, though they'd be very different actual numbers with different units of measure (milliamps vs. microSiemens). They would still need to be the same from batch to batch. I would still suggest you buy a cheap, $20 digital multimeter from Radio Shack or somewhere and learn to use it. It's damn useful for silly things like measuring battery voltage and you *can* rig it up to see what kind of current limiting the pulser does for you, if any. That will give you some ideas on limits for your process. Whew! I'm sure this isn't getting a whole lot simpler for you. Just remember that the stuff you're making is working. All of this other nonsense will just give you a *little* more control once you figure out how to use the tools. Keep asking questions. We'll get through it one way or another. smile Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSBioengineered foods
I agree Liz, That is why I am growing my own veggies in my organic garden, or buying organic. I also am putting together my own supply of heirloom seeds. CK - Original Message - From: Liz Pavek liz...@frontiernet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 10:24 PM Subject: CSBioengineered foods As far as I'm concerned, all hybrid seed is bioengineered. This means corn, soy, some wheats, and most garden vegetables. When genetics is manipulated, I consider that bioengineering. Just my nsho, Liz -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSPeroxide in ears/ouch
Hello, After reading Katarina's response, and the other person who had pain after using H2O2 in the ears, I am very interested in this. I've used the peroxide in the ears on two occasions in the past month now, when I felt I was getting sick. On both times, the symptoms cleared up within a day or two. One time I used the peroxide once in the evening, once the next morning, and again the next evening. The other time I used it on two successive evenings. Based on about 5 or 6 actual usages now, I've seemed to notice some common things. These are identical to what the original poster of the peroxide in the ears messages noted--that you need to keep doing it until there is no more bubbling in the ears. I had exactly those things. The first time, when I first felt sick, the bubbling was so fierce I could hold my hand an inch or so above the ear with the peroxide in it and bubbles would fly up and splash my hand. The next morning there was less bubbling. The next evening there was hardly any bubbling, indicating the problem was going away. The next time I did it, the same thing happened, lots of bubbling the first time, gradually going away. At no time during any of these usages did I ever experience any type of ear pain. It helps to warm the peroxide first; I've noticed increased dizziness feelings if the peroxide is cold when put in the ear. Also note, I've regularly used peroxide to keep the earwax removed, so when I've used the peroxide when I felt sick, at no time was any dissolved earwax in the solution when I drained it out from the ear. Thus, the bubbling could not have been related to removal of earwax in my ear. So, based on anecdotal experience of two times using it when I felt sick, I feel it's actually doing what the original message said it would do--reduce or cure a cold or flu--at least for me. I would sure like to know why some folks experience pain from peroxide in the ear! Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSPeroxide in ears/ouch
Hey guys, I've got a nasty headachey sinusey miserable flu - so in addition to gulping cs I also tried the peroxide in the ears -- and I now have one very painful ear -- sort of sharp shooting pains -- so I'm not so sure about that method at all! Just wanted to add my little warning to whoever else it was who had the shooting pains from peroxide. Katarina Following hydrogen peroxide in his ears my husband not only had ear aches (they had stopped!) on that day, also sinus and a terrible headache. It lasted for about 1 day and a half. He was some sick puppy then. Even the zapper did not do much on that day. I did it no noticable results good/bad or indifferent -). That just shows, what works on one, doesn't necessarily work on another. H.B. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSIntro and Overview FAQ
Thanks Mike. Lots of good information. Dhyana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSPeroxide in ears/ouch
Hello, After reading Katarina's response, and the other person who had pain after using H2O2 in the ears, I am very interested in this. I've used the peroxide in the ears on two occasions in the past month now, when I felt I was getting sick. On both times, the symptoms cleared up within a day or two. One time I used the peroxide once in the evening, once the next morning, and again the next evening. The other time I used it on two successive evenings. Based on about 5 or 6 actual usages now, I've seemed to notice some common things. These are identical to what the original poster of the peroxide in the ears messages noted--that you need to keep doing it until there is no more bubbling in the ears. I had exactly those things. The first time, when I first felt sick, the bubbling was so fierce I could hold my hand an inch or so above the ear with the peroxide in it and bubbles would fly up and splash my hand. The next morning there was less bubbling. The next evening there was hardly any bubbling, indicating the problem was going away. The next time I did it, the same thing happened, lots of bubbling the first time, gradually going away. At no time during any of these usages did I ever experience any type of ear pain. It helps to warm the peroxide first; I've noticed increased dizziness feelings if the peroxide is cold when put in the ear. Also note, I've regularly used peroxide to keep the earwax removed, so when I've used the peroxide when I felt sick, at no time was any dissolved earwax in the solution when I drained it out from the ear. Thus, the bubbling could not have been related to removal of earwax in my ear. So, based on anecdotal experience of two times using it when I felt sick, I feel it's actually doing what the original message said it would do--reduce or cure a cold or flu--at least for me. I would sure like to know why some folks experience pain from peroxide in the ear! Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSJust sharing
Diane, I was looking for this site... thanks... it's interesting, isn't it? Dhyana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLiver damage??? ;0/
Well all I can tell you is I have Hepatitis C, and I have been using CS for about a year or so and it has releaved my symptoms. I have had no adverse effects. sdr Nicole Fraser wrote: Hello everyone! Personally I don't think this is possible or true but had to ask. Some woman in the Lyme ng told me that CS can cause liver damage. She claims her friend is near a liver translplant because of it. Is this at ALL possible I don't think so and think there must be something else her friend is taking that must have caused liver damage? Anyone know if there could be any truth to this or not??? Thanks! Nicole:O) --- Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at Yahoo! Auctions.
Re: CSFEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
At 01:05 PM 11/20/99 -0600, you wrote: Carol, you should read the book by Dr. John Lee What your Dr. May not Tell You about Menopause You can also access transcripts of his lectures over the internet, just Search on Dr. John Lee or Natural Progesterone. If You are going to use Natural Progesterone though, I would strongly recommend reading some of his stuff, There is so much information that you need to know. Other herbs that you may find helpful are Wild Yam, Fenugreek, Dong Quai, Saw Palmetto, I started using Herbs for PMS this year, and have reduced symptoms to almost nothing. I really have to watch the calendar now, otherwise I don't know when it's coming!!! I did notice though, that when I started using the Natural progesterone my face broke out more than usual, I can live with that! ~ YESYESYESYES!!! Also make sure you only use the brands he recommends. And if they are not strong enough a naturopath can give you a prescription for a stronger cream. But start with an over the counter one. ~^^V^^~ - -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSJust sharing
There is one herb that I know that has stood the test and that is Ginkgo Biloba TO YOUR BETTER HEALTH Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSFEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
Hello to female listers, Along with a daily regiment of vitamin and mineral supplements you might add , Black Cohosh, Vitex, Dong Quai, and Wild Yam . Anyone on the list that would like more info I will be happy to answer private email. Please understand I am not providing medical advise, only my personal opinion. TO YOUR BETTER HEALTH Ron P S EMAIL QUESTIONS TO nat1...@usa.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSPtemarin
cancer is big business. it can cost upwards of $50K to die of cancer. why wouldn't they keep it going? Dennis 51/50 24/7 ---BeginMessage--- I had a Pan-hysterectomy fourteen years ago. Everything was removed, and I was placed immediately on the strongest premarin they make. Ten years later, I lost a breast to breast cancer, and the doctors admitted that the premarin was probably responsible. Yet they continue to prescribe it. Did you know that premarin is the most heavily prescribed medication in the United States? Is it any wonder there's been such an increase in breast cancer? Liz -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
Re: CSFEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
My wife's natureopath recommended 1200 mg Vitamin E a day...and poof, after about 2 weeks all the hot flashes disappeared...thing of the past. . Regards, Steven J. Geigle Home Office Tel/Fax: 503.297.5587 Email: sgei...@home.com there are herbs with estrogen in them to help with the flashes etc. someone on the list must know what they are. I've heard that wild yam does -- I haven't tried it though. Nellie Christ, my all -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CShot flashes
Liz, I don't drink coffee, either. I have found a substitute called Postem, on most regular grocery store shelves, to be a fine alternative. It is only roasted grains, molasses, maltodextrin from corn. I am so proud, I used to be the type to put four tsps of sugar in a cup of tea, and now I only drink herbal teas (with no sugar, sometimes stevia) and postem w/out sugar. To ME that is a major accomplishment. I'm gettin' thereLOL -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSJust sharing
In a message dated 11/21/99 12:43:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, silver...@aol.com writes: Diane, I was looking for this site... thanks... it's interesting, isn't it? Dhyana LOL...I am not sure exactly which site you are referring to.but I'm glad that list was helpful after I put a bit of time into typing it ! I also found my book that has the info on the tinnitus and macular degeneration, so I'll put that in the next email diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSPtemarin
AMAN -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSTinnitus and Mac. Degeneration Info
I found the book. The Green Pharmacy, by James A. Duke, Ph.D. It's a little paperback, cheap enough to get and also a current edition so at the stores. Macular degeneration: (this is pages long, so I will just list the herbs to use) Bilberry eat collard greens ginkgo biloba peanuts, legumes, soybeans (eek) cloves wolfberry Of course, the details of why are in the book and it's too much to type all those pages, so forgive me. Tinnitus: gingko biloba is highly suggested sesame seeds in the diet any which way you can black cohosh goldenseal lesser periwinkle spinach NOTE: herbs to avoid for tinnitus are: aspirin or aspirin-like herbs. willowbark, meadowsweet and wintergreen, cinchona, blackhaw and uva ursi. The aspirin can cause tinnitus symptoms. Hope that helps. This book is really great, btw. Diane.ohI just noticed the section on Lyme disease, too. This writer says they used the doxy w/herbs. Echinacea, LOTS of garlic, (5 - 15 cloves a day). Mountain mint: crush the leaves and rub it on your legs...(etc)...it is tick/bug repelling. It has a juice it with active ingredient called pulegone. Also, take licorice. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme and Garlic was Tinnitus and Mac.Degeneration
Lee wrote: Prior to the debacle of Lyme I was a devotee of Western medicine and sneered at the nonscientific. Still prefer good studies to back up anything, but if noone does the studies the next best thing is powerful annecdotal evidence from people one respects. Wow! Couldn't have said it better. Thank you for the validation. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLiver damage??? ;0/
What antibioitics did the woman use before she started silver? Long term ABX have many damaging effects. Also, lots of Lyme people are put on Diflucan or Niazoral for the yeast they get because of the ABX, and both of those are severely toxic to the liver. Never heard of a problem with silver before. Sounds like another scare tactic to me. Sparrow Hello everyone! Personally I don't think this is possible or true but had to ask. Some woman in the Lyme ng told me that CS can cause liver damage. She claims her friend is near a liver translplant because of it. Is this at ALL possible I don't think so and think there must be something else her friend is taking that must have caused liver damage? Anyone know if there could be any truth to this or not??? Thanks! Nicole:O)
Re: CSFEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
Which is why I suggested Blue. It has the same properties, but is much more mild. Like the difference between peppermint and spearmint. :~) Sparrow Regarding herbal estrogens: Most female type herbal combinations contain black cohosh. Some women are very sensitive to this herb, and may react with crashing, painful headaches that do not respond to pain medication. If this describes you, read the labels of all your female herbal preparations to see if black cohosh is an ingredient. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Vaccines: Personal exemptions and some links
This is an example of a letter written for a personal religious exemption. http://www.unc.edu/~aphillip/www/vaccine/relxmptn.htm The vaccine information internet resource page. Chock full of links. http://www.unc.edu/~aphillip/www/vaccine/resrcntr.htm#support The vaccine information and awareness page http://www.access1.net/via/ So far I have been unable to find the page that has a specific letter for claiming a straight personal reason for not vaccinating. The letter was EXTREMELY well written, and the jist of it was, if the school tries to force you to vaccinate, and you don't want to sign a religious exemption, then you insist the school take all responsibility, (including financial) for any adverse reaction your child may have to the vaccine. Since no school or school district is willing to do that, they WILL exempt your child from the vaccine requirement to enter school. This is for public schools. Private schools of course, are a different story, since they are private, they do not HAVE to let anyone in. HOpe this helps. Sparrow -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSvaccines
Silver folks: I believe the answers to most of your questions about vaccines can be found here: http://www.unc.edu/~aphillip/www/vaccine/dvm1.htm I found it credibel and quite enlightening. Sam In a message dated 11/17/99 9:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, myf...@mwt.net writes: This is a common establishment misconception.There is no legal way for any school district or health department to keep your children out of school, if you choose not to vaccinate them. Every state must provide a waiver for religious, personal, or medical reasons for not vaccinating. Sparrow Hi Sparrow, I'd appreciate some clarification, lest I misunderstand my own state. I live in Connecticut and we do not have a personal/philosophical exemption here. We have religious (which I cannot claim for whatever reasons), and medical is almost impossible to obtain. Since you say that ALL states must accept all three, I'd like to know how to do that. I am not concerned for my children, since we homeschool anyway. I do have friends who choose to use the public school system and are very worried. I also have a friend who's daughter was denied entrance into the local preschool due to being non-vaccinated. Actually, THAT friend is the one who turned my family on to CS !!! Thanks for your time in advance, Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOT/Kris/Soy Canola oil
Here's more on rapeseed/canola oil. http://www.dldewey.com/canola.htm Sam Rapeseed was not an appealing name changed to Canada oil then changed to Canola oil, used in making paint, should you put it in your body? Ted Katarina Wittich wrote: Hi Kris, you had a post a while ago that mentioned that soy and canola oils are bad for you. Can you tell me more? I thought canola oil was the one oil preferable for use for high heats.I know that rapeseed can be toxic - but I thought the processing took the toxicity out and that canola oil was okay -- other than one bad batch somewhere that poisoned people. I'm also curious since you seem to have read a lot about SLS and SLES whether you think that ammonium laureth sulfate and ammonium lauryl sulfate are also bad for you. And in your research did you find any difference between the lauryl sulfate and laureth sulfates? Trem sent me an interesting article saying that sodium laureth sulfate was harmless, while laurel sulfate mught be bad stuff. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSJust sharing
LOL...I am not sure exactly which site you are referring to.but I'm glad that list was helpful after I put a bit of time into typing it ! I also found my book that has the info on the tinnitus and macular degeneration, so I'll put that in the next email diane Yes, I realized there were more sites listed after I wrote that. Actually, I found them all to be interesting, but I was searching for one on ionized water, and that was the first one listed... so, I went there immediately. So much for hurrying through things! Thanks... Dhyana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSLyme and Garlic was Tinnitus and Mac.Degeneration
RE herbs for Lyme from the The Green Pharmacy: Mardicon8 wrote: Diane.ohI just noticed the section on Lyme disease, too. This writer says they used the doxy w/herbs. Echinacea, LOTS of garlic, (5 - 15 cloves a day). Mountain mint: crush the leaves and rub it on your legs...(etc)...it is tick/bug repelling. It has a juice it with active ingredient called pulegone. Also, take licorice. I took garlic (a BULB/15+cloves/day) for a week...wasn't too bad while sequestered with my father, but when I returned to the world (via airplane) it was another story. I couldn't smell it and I wondered why noone spoke with the usual chatty me and why the people next to me changed seats. LOL Upon returning home my sig other said: WOW what is that smell? as I got in the car with him. For the next day or so he only spoke to me when facing the opposite direction. I stopped the garlic. But CS is doing a pretty good job so far and it doesn't smell! Olive Leaf Extract is also helpful. Licorice is another matter: As it can cause hypertension anyone with an elevated blood pressure should stay away from it. It is sometimes a hidden ingredient in concoctions from homeopathy specialists. Love the list, Lee in CA, on the mend from Lyme thanks to CS homebrew. Prior to the debacle of Lyme I was a devotee of Western medicine and sneered at the nonscientific. Still prefer good studies to back up anything, but if noone does the studies the next best thing is powerful annecdotal evidence from people one respects. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSwet chem
Now that I'm older, here's what I've discovered: Just a thought I have here. I have no idea of the feasability of it though. What if you were to measure the mass of the electrodes before and after generation, or posibly the mass of exactly 1 liter of water before and after. The difference in mass, all be it, micrograms would be equivalant to the ppm? This would only work if the process did not generate enough heat to drive water off though. James Houston-McMillan. M. G. Devour wrote: Shouldn't there be a way to perform some regular wet chemistry test to determine PPM? Something like a simple titration or something? joe... Joe, I've been asking that question on and off for 2 1/2 years, and I've never gotten a good answer. The analogy of titration was always the first thing to come to mind. Shoot, I'd expect you could create a kit of dyes and reagents similar to that used to test a swimming pool and be able to get crude readings by color. Even that much would be helpful. Even if you had a fairly complex setup using a number of reagents and a bunch of glassware, it would still be cheaper than some of the instruments folks have had to buy. I'd like to see us do a survey of analysis techniques and maybe create a table of equipment cost, cost per sample, accuracy and precision, complexity, safety, etc. At least over narrow ranges of process conditions there *is* a correlation between conductivity and concentration. But to peg that measurement to anything *known* still requires other methods for calibration. It's a great question. I hope we're closer to finding an answer. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Chuck/meters/jpg
Thanks Chuck. Care to help me figure out why I can't get jpg? I don't even know what it is -- but maybe I am missing some application that I need? Katarina Macintosh, the original graphics machine, doesn't do jpg? Un---believable! You're right, the PWT is probably what you need. My meter suggestion is best for the simpler setups. Chuck -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe:peroxide in ears
Did he feel better after he felt worse?? One of the hardest things for me to figure out with all this alternative medicine stuff is when you feel bad because something is not working -- or when it's some sort of healing crisis that indicates it is indeed working? So hard to figure out. I feel a lot better today. Was it because of the peroxide?? Or the flu running it's course??? I also had tons of sinus and a headache. Was that nasty bugs dying and releasing toxins in there -- or was I damaging my ear canaL?? No idea! Katarina Following hydrogen peroxide in his ears my husband not only had ear aches (they had stopped!) on that day, also sinus and a terrible headache. It lasted for about 1 day and a half. He was some sick puppy then. Even the zapper did not do much on that day. I did it no noticable results good/bad or indifferent -). That just shows, what works on one, doesn't necessarily work on another. H.B. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Steve/peroxide
From: Steve Ratzlaff sratz...@flash.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com CC: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: CSPeroxide in ears/ouch Message-ID: 38378124.9c29e...@flash.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Steve -- I don't know -- the only thing I can think is that the ear which hurt is more convoluted and blocked -- maybe it needed clearing out. I'm of two minds whether to try it again and see if it clears something out. Katarina Hello, After reading Katarina's response, and the other person who had pain after using H2O2 in the ears, I am very interested in this. I've used the peroxide in the ears on two occasions in the past month now, when I felt I was getting sick. On both times, the symptoms cleared up within a day or two. One time I used the peroxide once in the evening, once the next morning, and again the next evening. The other time I used it on two successive evenings. Based on about 5 or 6 actual usages now, I've seemed to notice some common things. These are identical to what the original poster of the peroxide in the ears messages noted--that you need to keep doing it until there is no more bubbling in the ears. I had exactly those things. The first time, when I first felt sick, the bubbling was so fierce I could hold my hand an inch or so above the ear with the peroxide in it and bubbles would fly up and splash my hand. The next morning there was less bubbling. The next evening there was hardly any bubbling, indicating the problem was going away. The next time I did it, the same thing happened, lots of bubbling the first time, gradually going away. At no time during any of these usages did I ever experience any type of ear pain. It helps to warm the peroxide first; I've noticed increased dizziness feelings if the peroxide is cold when put in the ear. Also note, I've regularly used peroxide to keep the earwax removed, so when I've used the peroxide when I felt sick, at no time was any dissolved earwax in the solution when I drained it out from the ear. Thus, the bubbling could not have been related to removal of earwax in my ear. So, based on anecdotal experience of two times using it when I felt sick, I feel it's actually doing what the original message said it would do--reduce or cure a cold or flu--at least for me. I would sure like to know why some folks experience pain from peroxide in the ear! Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Stephen/hepatitus C
Hi Stephen, I have a dear friend with Hepatitus C and they are trying to make her take interferon -- which she doesn't want to take. Could you tell me more about your cs useage -- how much you take, what changes you have noticed, are you on anything else -- etc. It would be very helpful. Thanks, Katarina From: Stephen Rosenthal sdro...@cwia.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLiver damage??? ;0/ Message-ID: 38378b25.73292...@cwia.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=A499ED3FBF309F4A9FB6A3F5 --A499ED3FBF309F4A9FB6A3F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well all I can tell you is I have Hepatitis C, and I have been using CS for about a year or so and it has releaved my symptoms. I have had no adverse effects. sdr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Mike/meters
Hi Mike, unfortunately Chuck's jpeg diagram only comes over as a bunch of letters on my Mac and I'm also computer illiterate and have no idea why it won't read it. I don't know if I am more or less confused by all this at the moment. I think I'll wait and see what the PWT is like and check it out some and then my questions may be able to be more specific. I thought that Chuck was saying to get one new electrode to put in the glass - not two -- but maybe I'm wrong. Chuck?? So if I get a multimeter I will also have to get new wires/electrodes and plugs for the wire to attatch to my silver pulser --- I think I need to look at a multimeter to even understand how this will work -- when I look at things it's easier. I doubt that the pulser is current limiting - but maybe I'm wrong. Any guesses at all as to what will be a good reading on the PWT for my distilled water?? So I have a jumping off point?? Thanks for trying to explain it -- it's funny what a huge gap there is between those of us who are not at all technical and those who understand it. I think what I need is someone to just very simply explain from scratch what each meter does, how it reads out and how you make it work as if I was a 10 yr old. Jeffrey care to try? Any takers? Thanks so much. Be well. Katarina Katarina wrote: What is the difference between a volt-ohm meter and a PWT? And what is the practical difference in terms of keeping your CS manufacture consistent? I've already ordered the PWT -- but I assumed it was only useful for making sure my distilled water was okay -- from your description it sounds like it will also help me tell approximately where I am in the process as I make my cs so I know where to end my run. So what would I need a voltage meter for? If you dig up Chuck's little jpeg diagram he attached to one of his messages earlier you'll see that he suggests using the pulser as a power supply and getting two new silver electrodes to actually go in the glass. Then you could easily put a current meter in series with one of the electrodes or measure the output voltage across the electrodes by repositioning the meter connections. The advantage of this is learning how much current your pulser actually pushes through the system. We know that too high a current tends to create larger particles. If the pulser just gives you a voltage regulated DC supply, with no built in current limiting other than the 20 milliamp max rating somebody mentioned for it, then you'll know not to push your generating time so far that you end up making big particles that don't really add to the effectiveness of your product. And how do I tell if the water is good? If it is too conductive does that mean there is too much stuff in it that I wouldn't want? And since I gather it reads in Microseimens rather than ppm - what would be too high of a reading? Others can give you their ideas, but the bottom line is if you have some water that makes good CS, that's at least one data point. Experience will show you what your limit should be. It sounds rather complicated for me to use a voltage ohms meter with my becks pulser since I would have to dismantle it in order to put anything in series - so I'd just as soon not bother if I don't need to. Also, from Chucks description I would have to get another silver electrode and add it to the mix and I don't know how that would effect the cs production. I'd still want some others' input, but I think that a PWT will give you a direct measurement of what you're really interested in. Still, being able to measure the current out put of the pulser, at least once, would tell you how long you can run things before the current takes off to unhappy levels. Please understand that all these measurements are really related. If you measure the voltage between the electrodes and the current flowing from one to the other, divide the voltage by the current, you'll get the resistance of the cell at that moment. (Literally, the water's resistance to the flow of current.) Conductance is just 1 divided by the resistance, and conductivity is just conductance normalized to a standard size of measurement cell (Bob Berger's probe with 2 one centimeter square plates one cm apart). (Boy I hope I got this part right. It's been a while since I actually *used* any of this conductance/conductivity stuff!) So you could convert your current and voltage readings to the same conductivity measurement made by the PWT by figuring out the conversion factor for your electrode spacing and surface area, plus fudge factors for temperature and god knows what else, that Hanna has already taken care of for you. So if all you wanted to know was if *this* batch had reached the same approximate conductivity as the last batch, either the PWT reading or the current reading would tell you, though they'd be very different actual numbers with different units of measure (milliamps vs. microSiemens).
Re: CSFEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
Just for starts, What the heck is cohosh anyway?? - Original Message - From: Scharbach myf...@mwt.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 8:28 AM Subject: Re: CSFEMALE LISTERS ONLY!! Which is why I suggested Blue. It has the same properties, but is much more mild. Like the difference between peppermint and spearmint. :~) Sparrow -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CShot flashes
Boy, I sure opened a can of worms with the female problems.. We may have to change the name of this list. I am also a BIG coffee drinker.. I just can't seem to get along without it. I guess I should really try, huh. Maybe that will be my New Year's resolutionlol Thanks for all the good advice. I may get healthy yet, in spite of myself. CK - Original Message - From: mardic...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 7:29 AM Subject: Re: CShot flashes Liz, I don't drink coffee, either. I have found a substitute called Postem, on most regular grocery store shelves, to be a fine alternative. It is only roasted grains, molasses, maltodextrin from corn. I am so proud, I used to be the type to put four tsps of sugar in a cup of tea, and now I only drink herbal teas (with no sugar, sometimes stevia) and postem w/out sugar. To ME that is a major accomplishment. I'm gettin' thereLOL -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSresearch studies wanted
Another great site with a myriad of information, including health issues, is http://www.trufax.org It's a huge site, so it takes a few moments to load. Diane This is a wonderful site. Thanks again. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CShot flashes
In a message dated 11/21/99 1:53:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, ke...@jefnet.com writes: Boy, I sure opened a can of worms with the female problems.. We may have to change the name of this list. I am also a BIG coffee drinker.. I just can't seem to get along without it. I guess I should really try, huh. Maybe that will be my New Year's resolutionlol Thanks for all the good advice. I may get healthy yet, in spite of myself. Carol, If I drink coffee, I am directly in the bathroom.too much information? LOL But I personally don't want the caffeine. I gave up on tea w/caffeine, too. I won't give up the chocolate, though. Never !! An occasional divine treat =-) You might want to try blending your coffee with the Postem and transitioning that way. Just make half a cup of postem (1/2 spoonful) and then fill the rest up w/coffee and see how that goes. They really do taste similar. Not too long ago, Postem came out with a coffee flavor as an addition to the regular flavor. I cannot tell the difference, but hubby says he can. I mean...between the two types of Postem. Not coffee vs. postem. Just a thought. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Mike/meters
In a message dated 11/21/99 2:35:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, kato...@mindspring.com writes: it's funny what a huge gap there is between those of us who are not at all technical and those who understand it. I think what I need is someone to just very simply explain from scratch what each meter does, how it reads out and how you make it work as if I was a 10 yr old. red face: I hear that one!!! I am printing out the tech stuff and giving it to the hubby and the oldest son. They laugh at me. But they love me, anyway. What do they know, they may be techies, but *I* know how to make soap ! humorously =-) Diane, the untechnical -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS O.T. Re:peroxide in ears
Hi Katarina and all, He felt excellent prior to me administering it in his ear, and he felt rotten after he took it. He developed bad headaches/ear aches/ neck ache - sinus. You name he had it. It lasted for 1 1/2 days. He ended up in bed! I personally feel, it was the peroxide in his case. It was just to co-incidental. He had been clear of so many problems for the first time,after trying H.C. zapper. He was in 7th heaven and in his 3rd week with no ear noises, no headaches, etc. and then it started within hours of doing the peroxide, yet it had not affected me. Have you possibly (in your case) connected it with electroporation? If I remember, you mentioned once you had a pulser? H.B. Did he feel better after he felt worse?? One of the hardest things for me to figure out with all this alternative medicine stuff is when you feel bad because something is not working -- or when it's some sort of healing crisis that indicates it is indeed working? So hard to figure out. I feel a lot better today. Was it because of the peroxide?? Or the flu running it's course??? I also had tons of sinus and a headache. Was that nasty bugs dying and releasing toxins in there -- or was I damaging my ear canaL?? No idea! Katarina __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CShydrogen peroxide in ears
Katarina: I have been using peroxide 3% in my ears for years. . Also use it full strength as a mouth rinse after brushing, for my gums..have accidentally swallowed a few mouthfulls over the years all with no ill effects that I can tell...Glad to hear you are feeling better...Bev -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSfree TDS meter
i ordered a free TDS meter from them. they sell a water filtration system they claim will remove EVERYTHING except hydrogen and oxygen from the water. i'm getting one for a free trial to use for making cs. the rep said distillation somehow changes the structure of the water. uhhh? does it? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Mike/meters
Hi Katarina, The only concern I have in trying to meter the current of the pulser, is in that I'm not sure what the output looks like. If I understand correctly, the pulser changes polarity several (4?) times per second. (I'm looking at a schematic from Bob Beck's site) This would be equivalent to using a simple setup and swapping the leads to the electrodes 4 times per second. A DC ammeter connected in line would then see the current change direction at that rate. If the rate of change were slower, the meter would read a steady state positive reading, and then an equal but negative steady state reading...and so on. This is basically a low frequency AC square wave. With the meter set to DC, it might just flash a bunch of numbers at you, as it wouldn't react quickly enough to display the current before it changed direction. If set to AC, the problem may be similiar, as these meters are usually designed to operate between a range of frequencies, and that doesn't usually extend down to the 2 to 4 Hz range. Now, looking closer at the schematic in front of me, I'm not certain that the pulsed output is used for silver generation. I'm typing out loud :-) The schematic I'm looking at has two output jacks: a 3.5mm jack labeled biological electrification and an RCA jack labeled colloids. The output from the RCA jack appears to be fixed polarity DC with no active current limiting. There is a 150 ohm resistor and small lamp in series to limit the short circuit current only. This output would work nicely with a digital multimeter. So, maybe I'm not even on the right page!!! I have Lyme Disease and associated dane bramage...keep *that* in mind. Three things I know for sure: 1. Mike's idea of getting a multimeter is a good one, as he said, it is a very useful tool and it will aid in understanding this electrical stuff. 2. Supper is ready. 3. The smoke alarms work! God Bless, Jeff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS O.T. Re:peroxide in ears
Creston wrote: Hi Katarina and all, He felt excellent prior to me administering it in his ear, and he felt rotten after he took it. This is a very good indication that it's something you did! He developed bad headaches/ear aches/ neck ache - sinus. You name he had it. It lasted for 1 1/2 days. He ended up in bed! Did you ask him if he's willing to try it one more time for the sake of research? Seriously sounds like it's something you might want to look into before doing it again. I did it several times with no ill effects. The last time I had severe shooting pains. It appears that I just didn't get it all out, as when I did, the pain stopped. For me, I'd do it again in a minute if I felt a cold comming on...I hate being sick. Jeff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSFEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
How long did your wife take this amount of Vit E? I am in the process of weaning my body from synthetic estrogen after 10 years of Premarin usage. I have read Dr. John Lee's book and am using natural progesterone cream. I also take soy tablets. I find I am once again having those miserable hot flashes. I have found all of your comments on the subject informative. Since this is the CS list, maybe I should mention that I am making and consuming CS. Kathie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSfree TDS meter
Susan Epstein wrote: -Original Message- From: D G djg5...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 5:21 PM Subject: CSfree TDS meter i ordered a free TDS meter from them. they sell a water filtration system they claim will remove EVERYTHING except hydrogen and oxygen from the water. i'm getting one for a free trial to use for making cs. the rep said distillation somehow changes the structure of the water. uhhh? does it? Dennis Yes, it apparently removes all the structure. Water is structured by magnetics, freezing, or exposure to different chemicals (That is how homeopathy works). Distillation removes all structure, and is considered not healthy if that is the only water you drink. That is why we restructure the water after making CS with a magnetic in our system. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSfree TDS meter
i tried using reverse osmosis water and white stuff fell off of the trodes like dust. can't wait to try this filter system out. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CShot flashes
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:39:16 -0600, Liz Pavek liz...@frontiernet.net wrote: I quit drinking coffee, and my hot flashes went away. Prob'ly spilling it in your lap! If you sue, you could be rich Chuck Coffee is my only REAL friend -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: NIZORAL Diflucan
E gang, I have taken handfuls of these in the last year - just how much is toxic? I have taken about 60 Diflucan and about 60 Nizoral in the last year? HELP! Jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Chuck/meters/jpg
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:40:32 -0700, Katarina Wittich kato...@mindspring.com wrote: Thanks Chuck. Care to help me figure out why I can't get jpg? I don't even know what it is -- but maybe I am missing some application that I need? Katarina Well, if your doing Mac, I have to presume you're not running Windows? Therefore you can't use window apps. ACDSee 32 is one of the best utilities for viewing any graphic you're likely to come across but it's a windows thing. Tell you what, go here http://www.snip.net/home/graphics.htm and download install Jade under the Macintosh section. Chuck The extra mile will have no traffic jams. (Anonymous) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSfree TDS meter
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:21:01 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote: the rep said distillation somehow changes the structure of the water. uhhh? does it? Dennis Well, We're starting to hear that magnets will structure water! I must say, this has been news to me, and I'm reserving judgment 'till all the ducks are home. Chuck And I thought phrenology with a ball-peen hammer was a dying art! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSFEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
Hi, Another all natural herb you might want to research is Maca. Maca is growing in world popularity due to its energizing effects, fertility enhancement and aphrodisiac qualities. Other traditional uses include increasing energy, stamina and endurance in athletes, promoting mental clarity, treating male impotence, and helping with menstrual irregularities and female hormonal imbalances including menopause and chronic fatigue syndrome. http://www.rain-tree.com/maca.htm http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/news/maca.html Dotsie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)?
nope - tinnitus is caused by candida - systemic yeast - read the Yeast Connection and other books like that - direct correlation - when I have a yeast infection my ears itch like crazy. jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSFwd: Dr. Clark back in CA. -- Newsletter -- Seminar
This just came in: Delivered-To: ha...@iomet.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 01:33:55 +0100 From: Dr. Clark Assn. da...@drclark.net Reply-To: da...@drclark.net Subject: Dr. Clark back in CA. -- Newsletter -- Seminar Dear Guest of www.drclark.net! I have some very good news today. Dr. Clark is back in California and can even go to Mexico to see patients. It is unclear why she was suddenly allowed to leave the State of Indiana and was returned her passport. She is now about to make some of the most important research discoveries in her career, and you surely will here about those in the future. I am sorry to have caused some confusion about obtaining the Newsletter of the Dr. Clark Association in my last email. The exact net address to sign up is: http://www300.hostcenter.com/tcmtsc/dcra/member.htm The Newsletter goes out free to all members, but there is a membership fee. The contents are: - Dr. Clark's Arrest: What's behind it? - An Article on Dr. Clark's New Book - QA with Dr. Clark - Construction Biology: Is Your Home Making You Sick? - Article on Hulda Clinic in Norway - Success Stories Using the Clark Therapy. Finally, I would like to inform you that Dr. Clark will hold a seminar in Louisville, Kentucky. This was announced at short notice and it is extremely rare that Dr. Clark speaks in public. I will let you know the details of the seminar in another email this coming week, but the date is 5/6 December 1999. Wishing you a healthy Thanksgiving David P. Amrein President, Dr. Clark Research Association -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: NIZORAL Diflucan
deat...@aol.com wrote: E gang, I have taken handfuls of these in the last year - just how much is toxic? I have taken about 60 Diflucan and about 60 Nizoral in the last year? HELP! Jeannine Anybody that takes nizoral should have a liver function study done BEFORE they go on the drug and then repeat liver function studies every so often so that they can compare to the original readings to see if the nizoral is destroying the liver. The patient is supposed to be taken off the drug if liver function is compromised. All this info is in the PDR. -- Webpage back again at http://home.earthlink.net/~kenseger A small collection of fundamental survival texts. If you email me make subject ***PRIVATE *** so I'll notice it kense...@earthlink.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)?
i've been cs and zapping for months. and my ears are still a four alarm siren. if there is any yeast in my body it must be related to superman. Dennis 51/50 24/7 ---BeginMessage--- nope - tinnitus is caused by candida - systemic yeast - read the Yeast Connection and other books like that - direct correlation - when I have a yeast infection my ears itch like crazy. jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
Re: CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)?
Tinnitus has many causes and this abstract mentions a few of those causes. It is addressing a potential method of cure for some people, not all, because of course the causes can vary as the night the day. The probe they mention is probably not the zapper! Many medications, including aspirin can cause tinnitus. Lee in CA Otolaryngol Head Neck Surg 1999 Nov;121(5):511-3 Treatment of tinnitus with electrical stimulation. Steenerson RL, Cronin GW Atlanta Ear Clinic. [Medline record in process] The purpose of this study was to evaluate the treatment of tinnitus with electrical stimulation. Five hundred patients with tinnitus were treated with probe electrical stimulation. Causes of tinnitus were sensorineural hearing loss (303 patients), Meniere's disease (88), infection (25), head trauma (39), acoustic trauma (25), ototoxicity (4), and chemotherapy (2). Treatment involved 6 to 10 transcutaneous treatment electrical stimulation sessions biweekly. Fifty-three percent of patients showed decreases in their tinnitus as measured by a subjective rating scale. With a 3-month follow-up, 72% had no loss of benefit. Thirteen patients had temporary increases in their tinnitus. Two patients had permanent increases. Probe electrical stimulation seems to offer some benefit in about half the patients treated for annoying tinnitus. PMID: 10547461, UI: 20016463 G wrote: i've been cs and zapping for months. and my ears are still a four alarm siren. if there is any yeast in my body it must be related to superman. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Subject: CSRe: Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)? Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:57:34 -0800 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:57:18 EST From: deat...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com nope - tinnitus is caused by candida - systemic yeast - read the Yeast Connection and other books like that - direct correlation - when I have a yeast infection my ears itch like crazy. jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS O.T. Re:peroxide in ears
Jeff wrote: Did you ask him if he's willing to try it one more time for the sake of research? Ha,ha, you have not been 1/100 as sick as he was or you would never have asked that question. How about choosing a research victim or several from your family and then report the various findings to this list (if permitted) or to a H202 list. H.B. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSwet chem
James H-McMillan wrote: Now that I'm older, here's what I've discovered: Just a thought I have here. I have no idea of the feasability of it though. What if you were to measure the mass of the electrodes before and after generation, or posibly the mass of exactly 1 liter of water before and after. The difference in mass, all be it, micrograms would be equivalant to the ppm? This would only work if the process did not generate enough heat to drive water off though. James Houston-McMillan. You can measure the mass of the electrodes to determine silver usage, I have done that as a double check for our ppm measurements. But you need to either have a sensitive and accurate instrument, or make a lot of colloidal silver. When I have done it, I have made 25 gallons. Measing the mass of the water would not be pratical. Much more water would evaporate than silver goes into the water. and if you try to measure a liter of water, even one drop of error would be more than the amount of silver in it. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSfree TDS meter
-Original Message- From: D G djg5...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 5:21 PM Subject: CSfree TDS meter i ordered a free TDS meter from them. they sell a water filtration system they claim will remove EVERYTHING except hydrogen and oxygen from the water. i'm getting one for a free trial to use for making cs. the rep said distillation somehow changes the structure of the water. uhhh? does it? Dennis 51/50 24/7 Dennis, The distilation process removes the TDS(total dissolved solids)only. It does not remove volatile organic chemicals. If you are interested in getting a water purifying system make sure they send you a spec. sheet and be sure their system is certified by the NSF(National Sanitation Foundation)an independent certifying organization that varifies the manufacturer' s claims. I went through all this years ago, because our area had contaminants-that fell into different catagories. Therefore, I ended up getting an NSF certified system that rids the water of all types of pollutants:It has three different filters, one that removes sediment, an RO membrane which removes the TDS, and a carbon filter that removes the VOC's. Susan E -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
