CSRe: Diabetes

2000-11-06 Thread Gaston
For people interested on this subject only. Pls read the highlighted
paragraph
referring to carbohydrates...

The attached text was obtained from the following address:

http://www.thirdage.com/news/ap/hlth/20001105.3a05d687.5542.3.html?std

Gaston




Mexican-American Diabetes Studied.doc
Description: MS-Word document


CSson - stomach OT

2000-11-06 Thread DeathBH
Try using castor oil packs to loosen any scar tissue.  Also, it will take 
away pain somewhat.
Jeannine


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Re: CS PPM

2000-11-06 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 11/6/00 1:17:00 AM EST, r...@zwallet.com writes:

 Subj: CS PPM
 Date:  11/6/00 1:17:00 AM EST
 From:  r...@zwallet.com (Willie L. Forbes)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 I have heard that the higher the ppm is the better the CS quality. I have an 
associate who claims he is using 500 ppm which is suppose to be much better 
for you therapeuticly. He claims that the 5ppm is not enough to have any 
value health wise, and that you would have to consume much much more to have 
any real effect.
 I don't know this is all new to me. Can someone help?
 
 Willie L. Forbes 

Willie: Check the archives. I reported getting very fast (within hours) 
relief from cold symptoms with a (HVAC) CS concentration of 1 PPM. But you 
have to make sure that the CS gets it DIRECT contact with the infection.  
Roger 


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Re: CS PPM

2000-11-06 Thread Willie L. Forbes
Hi Dean,
Thanks for your reply, I want to use CS therefore I want to use it wisely. I 
really appreciate your taking the time to respond.







Hi Willie,

On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:36:15 -0600 (CST), Willie L. Forbes
r...@zwallet.com wrote:

I have heard that the higher the ppm is the better the CS quality. I have an 
associate who claims he is using 500 ppm which is suppose to be much better 
for you therapeuticly. He claims that the 5ppm is not enough to have any 
value health wise, and that you would have to consume much much more to have 
any real effect.
I don't know this is all new to me. Can someone help?

So far, most tests show that 5 ppm CS kills bacteria dead.  I doubt
that 500 ppm will kill them deader.  :)

Seriously, 500 ppm concentrations almost require additives to keep the
silver in suspension.  The needed additives could cause much of the CS
to be ineffective.

It's far, far cheaper to make more CS at 10 to 20 ppm than it is to
buy the 500 ppm stuff.  (You can make a few gallons of 10 ppm for the
cost of 4 oz at 500 ppm.  It's the volume of CS that counts, not the
concentration.)

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn  (CDP, KB0ZDF)


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CSRe:500ppm

2000-11-06 Thread Annhope1

 r...@zwallet.com :   wrote:
 I have heard that the higher the ppm is the better the CS quality. I have 
 an associate who claims he is using 500 ppm which is suppose to be much 
 better for you therapeuticly. He claims that the 5ppm is not enough to have 
 any value health wise, and that you would have to consume much much more to 
 have any real effect.
 
  Willie,
   When I first started to use CS I purchased 500ppm or at least thats what 
the label said. The people who advertised also said more is better and 5ppm 
wouldn't do the trick. 
I had the 500ppm tested and it turned out to be around 134ppm with some 
unknowns added in for color, etc.  It was a 2 oz bottle, expensive, looked 
and tasted nasty.  Since being on the list I have learned more is not 
better.. at least in CS...haha.  I have since been using approx. 12ppm CS and 
have gotten great results, some being: avoided the wrath of food poisoning, 
alleviated a sore throat in its infancy(using spray bottle), using it to make 
cut flowers last longer, in the cats water, etc.
That bottle of 500ppm... I dilute it and use it to water my plants.
Cheers,
Terri L.



Re: CSRe: Ungray hair

2000-11-06 Thread Marsha Hallett
  Dear Judith, Just a B complex tablet  with 50 mg of the big ones and 50
mcg
  of the little ones!
  Good luck!!
  Marsha

 Marsha,

 What's the 'big ones' and what's the 'little ones?'

 Diane

Dear Diane, B 12 is a little one, B1 is a big one. Any complex with 50 mg
will have the little ones in the right amount.
Marsha


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Re: CSBSE caused by pathogens? (was: English Food Standards)

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dean T. Miller wrote:

 On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 12:43:00 -0500, Marshall Dudley
 mdud...@execonn.com wrote:

  How sure are the researchers about BSE?  What I mean is that if they
  find misfolded proteins, are they sure there isn't a pathogen
  originally present that produces these proteins?
 
  Since many, once genetic or chemical imbalance caused, diseases
  are now being found to be associated with pathogens, is it possible
  there could be a pathogen causing BSE?
 
 They seem pretty sure.  http://www.nmia.com/~mdibble/prion.html is a good
 document on the entire history of finding out the cause.

 I understand they're pretty sure.  But note that Dr. Torres is talking
 about a vaccine for diabetes -- which isn't  even theoretically
 possible using the currently pretty sure definition for diabetes.

What does doctor Torres have to do with this discussion?  Right now it is the
only theory that fits the facts.

Marshall




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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2000-11-06 Thread russ e rosser
 by  jumpin' christ... you just HAVE to love somebody with the big
swinging brass ones to try and gouge out $75 for a quart or so of
energised water that they spent thousand of dollars on the equiptment
to develop. and this 
on the authority of (they) heard  of a fish that didn't suffocate.  
what more ringing endorsement could any reasonable being
possible want? 
Dennis

I provided that anecdote about another kind of 'living water'
poccess--the Rev. will have to provide his own. --Russ


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CSUngrey Hair

2000-11-06 Thread Black

Marsha,
Have you known anyone that using CS for hair loss worked for?
I suspect that coloring my hair with those horrible chemicals for many, many
years may have damaged the roots, and possibly my brains too.  Am dumping CS
on my head everyday in hopes that your theory is the right one, but if not I
will certainly have the most bacteria, virus -free head in town.  alot
cheaper than shampoo to boot.
Will surely give you a report at first sign of a thicker head of grey hair.

Nancy...



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CSRe: Re: CS'Triple Jab'

2000-11-06 Thread toscano2
Nina,
   While this is a great suggestion, I would like to point out that everyone 
may react differently to drinking aloe vera juice. My brother and I get awful 
diarrhea from even the smallest quantity, while my mother and father can 
tolerate a glass a day. 
   I would advise Mary to have her son sample some juice before drinking a full 
serving.

   -David Toscano

silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
 
- Original Message -
From: Mary 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 5:36 PM
Subject: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism


 Dear List,

 My son has this bowel problem from the vax. No matter what I do, he has
this
 inflammation of the colon (autistic enterocolitis) Does anyone have any
 suggestions? I have him on a paleo diet and he has improved but there is
 this artificial measles virus (from the MMR)  in the colon that invades
the
 mucosal tissues. All suggestions appreciated. Thank you, Mary

Have you tried Aloe Vera gel? It's wonderful for healing the intestinal
tract, the skin, in fact all mucous membranes. I drink 2-3 ounces a day.
Nina


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Re: CSBSE caused by pathogens.........?

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
bovine spongiform encephalopathy

marshall

Tom Bassett wrote:

 Please decipher  BSE

 Thank you,
 Tom Bassett

 On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 12:43:00 -0500, Marshall Dudley
 mdud...@execonn.com wrote:
 
  How sure are the researchers about BSE?  What I mean is that if they
  find misfolded proteins, are they sure there isn't a pathogen
 Snip.
 They seem pretty sure.  http://www.nmia.com/~mdibble/prion.html is a good
 
 
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Re: CStaking a bath

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have been putting CS and H2O2 in my bath water for the last month.  I
have noticed that any warts I have on my body have been getting
smaller.  In another month they may be gone!

Marshall

itssu...@aol.com wrote:

 Everyone seems to discuss taking CS orally or by another form of
 administration.  What about putting CS into bath water?  Are there any

 studies or knowledge on absorption rate?  Would it also absorb through
 the
 skin?  Thank you.  suzy


Re: CSHVAC/ARC Transformer source?

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Do a search for neon sign transformers, there are several companies that make
them.  I would give you some bookmarks but got wiped out by a virus last month,
and lost them.

Marshall

V. Richter wrote:

 To all HVAC/ARC method folks,
 What is a source on the internet of Transformers in the 120/15,000V range?

 I am interested in the HVAC/ARC CS production method to get smaller
 particles and higher ppm batches.  My background is as a Navy electrician
 where I learned to try not to electricute myself or anyone else.  Also,
 there is a direct conection between high voltage gone astray and fires.  My
 local CS supplier demonstrated this method for me the other day and he has a
 life saving story to tell about his last five years of CS use.  Briefly: he
 was exposed to an explosion in Nam which left him with several internal
 souvenirs.  Now he successfully fights recurring infections with the
 inonized CS made with HVAC and two arcs.  I hope he joins this list if he
 hasn't already.  Tim, you there?

 Thanks,

 Vince Richter

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Re: CSHVAC/ARC Transformer source?

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Most neon sign places have use units they will sell for very little, or in many
cases will give them to you.  Tell them you are going to build a jacob Ladder.
Then when you get home build one.  Then tear it down and use it for the CS.

Marshall

V. Richter wrote:

 Thanks Robert,
 By the way, is a GFI going to be a problem?  It doesn't seem like it would
 since the current to ground should still be zero if all goes as planned.  I
 just wanted to make sure.  There is a neon sign place in my town.  I'll
 check there first.  A new transformer wouldn't be out of my reach
 financially.

 Vince Richter

 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Bartell rbart...@drfast.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 3:45 PM
 Subject: Re: CSHVAC/ARC Transformer source?

  Hi Vince,
  Any manufacturer of Neon signs can get you one. Code now requires the
  transformers to have ground fault interruptors for certification.  The
 older
  ones didn't have them and you can probably find a good deal around for a
  used one.
  New ones are around $100 - $120 retail.  Used or old style should be about
  $35 to $40, Good Luck and good hunting!  :Robert Bartell  Oh, by the way,
  thanks to ole Bob on this list for this info!
 
  - Original Message -
  From: V. Richter cvin...@ala.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:30 PM
  Subject: CSHVAC/ARC Transformer source?
 
 
   To all HVAC/ARC method folks,
   What is a source on the internet of Transformers in the 120/15,000V
 range?

 

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Re: CSUngrey Hair

2000-11-06 Thread Marsha Hallett
 Marsha,
 Have you known anyone that using CS for hair loss worked for?
 I suspect that coloring my hair with those horrible chemicals for many,
many
 years may have damaged the roots, and possibly my brains too.  Am dumping
CS
 on my head everyday in hopes that your theory is the right one, but if not
I
 will certainly have the most bacteria, virus -free head in town.  alot
 cheaper than shampoo to boot.
 Will surely give you a report at first sign of a thicker head of grey
hair.

 Nancy...

Dear Nancy, No, I haven`t known anyone personally, it was discussed on this
list.
 I`ll bet those chemicals did do something...
I never colored my hair, or straightened it, in spite of hating all the
stupid natural curls. (I did high school back when every girl had long,
board straight hair. My curls were so out of it!!! sigh... I never could
believe people would pay a LOT of money to get curls put into their hair!)
Well, good luck...Keep us posted.
Marsha


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Re: CSRe: Re: CS'Triple Jab'

2000-11-06 Thread Marsha Hallett


 Nina,
While this is a great suggestion, I would like to point out that
everyone may react differently to drinking aloe vera juice. My brother and I
get awful diarrhea from even the smallest quantity, while my mother and
father can tolerate a glass a day.
I would advise Mary to have her son sample some juice before drinking a
full serving.
 -David Toscano

And Aloe Vera would KILL my mom, she is terribly allergic!
Marsha


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Re: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Have you tried olive leaf extract?  Also you might try magnetic pulsing the
abdomin.

Marshall

Mary wrote:

 Dear List,

 My son has this bowel problem from the vax. No matter what I do, he has this
 inflammation of the colon (autistic enterocolitis) Does anyone have any
 suggestions? I have him on a paleo diet and he has improved but there is
 this artificial measles virus (from the MMR)  in the colon that invades the
 mucosal tissues. All suggestions appreciated. Thank you, Mary
 _

 'Triple Jab Autism (MMR) Could Be Next BSE'

 [By Sarah-Kate Templeton Health Editor in the Sunday Herald, UK.]
 http://www.sundayherald.com/news/newsi.hts?section=Newsamp;story_id=12363

   The consultant who first suggested that the MMR vaccine causes autism
 has warned MSPs that government failure to face up to the danger will lead
 to a catastrophe on the scale of the BSE crisis (Mad Cow Disease).
   Dr Andrew Wakefield told a Scottish parliament cross-party group on
 autism, launched in Edinburgh last week, that the UK faces an epidemic of
 the lifelong disorder. He renewed his call for single vaccines to be used to
 immunise against measles, mumps and rubella.
   On a two-day visit to Scotland, Wakefield - a consultant
 gastroenterologist at the Royal Free Hospital in London - hit out at Sir
 Kenneth Calman, the chief medical officer in 1998.
   In the official report into the BSE crisis, Calman was blamed for
 saying that beef was safe. Wakefield said Calman had taken the same approach
 to the MMR scare.
   Calman had warned that a wave of lethal epidemics could sweep Britain
 if parents went on refusing combined vaccines. The former chief medical
 officer had said there was no need, on the basis of evidence presented by
 Wakefield, to change vaccination policy.
   Wakefield said: These same people have been seen as victims of their
 own handling of BSE, and that is where we are heading with the MMR.
   It is going to take a strong body of people that are not prepared to
 be pushed around to prevent a similar situation.
   I feel strongly that, if this is something we have contributed to by
 our own failure to act, then we have a moral obligation to look after these
 children for all time.
 He dismissed claims that the rising incidence of autism is a result of a
 change in diagnostic criteria and insisted we are now seeing an epidemic .
   At a Glasgow conference on the causes of autism, the consultant
 explained how numerous families approached him, all with the same story to
 tell. Their children all had autism and bowel problems and they believed
 that the two were linked and that they had started as a direct consequence
 of the MMR vaccine. They said that, until vaccination, their children had
 been developing normally.
   Wakefield said: At first we were sceptical but the story was so
 consistent that we felt we had to investigate.
   Of the 160 autistic children we looked at, only five did not have
 bowel disease. The parents were right. The medical profession was wrong.
   The expert attacked others for ignoring claims of a link. He said:
 When the parent tells you they believe the problems started after exposure
 to the MMR vaccine, do you say, 'That is very interesting but politically it
 makes me very uncomfortable'? No, you bring together experts from around the
 world and you accept the over-riding need to establish whether there is a
 link.
   Wakefield said research carried out by his team and Professor John
 O'Leary of Coombe Women's Hospital in Dublin - and presented to a US
 Congressional hearing earlier this year - was clear evidence of a link. He
 said further research papers, to be published shortly, would confirm these
 findings.
   He emphasised: I am not anti-vaccine. It is a recognition that one
 plus one plus one is not equal to three. It is about the way the live
 viruses behave.
   We have data suggesting there is interaction between the compounds
 that may pose a risk.

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CSOT, help little girl

2000-11-06 Thread Debbie McDonald


Debbie McDonald wrote:
 
 http://www.geocities.com/compu dr/aime/aime.htm

should be 
http://www.geocities.com/compu_add and underline ther
http://www.geocities.com/compu_dr/aime/aime.htm


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Re: CSFw: NOTMILK STOSSELED BY A HOSTILE FOSSIL

2000-11-06 Thread M. G. Devour
I'm pleased to hear this! In the past, I'd understood Stossel to be one 
of the good guys in the mainstream media. He has given fair and 
balanced treatment to some very controversial issues where the other 
side is not usually presented in the dominant press.

Be well,

Mike D.

 Hi Robert,
 
 Apparently you MISSED the entire thesis of Stossel's report!
 
 He was NOT commenting on the dangers of dioxin but rather on the
 Politically Correct yet illogical reasoning of Ben  Jerry's.  BJ
 were demanding their suppliers of carton's that pack their ice cream
 have no dioxin in them.  BJ then  distributed literature in their
 outlets informing consumers of such a good deed and their literature
 stated any level of dioxin is dangerous.   Yet BJ simply omitted
 telling the consumers of their products that their product itself has
 much more dioxin than the original containers ever thought of having!

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CS PPM

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Willie L. Forbes wrote:

 I have heard that the higher the ppm is the better the CS quality. I have an 
 associate who claims he is using 500 ppm which is suppose to be much better 
 for you therapeuticly. He claims that the 5ppm is not enough to have any 
 value health wise, and that you would have to consume much much more to have 
 any real effect.
 I don't know this is all new to me. Can someone help?

 Willie L. Forbes


Not so.  There is a peak in the effectiveness for internal use which is fairly 
broad from 5 to about 20 ppm.  AT 5 ppm you have virtually 100% bsorption into 
the blood stream, and once you get above 7 to 8 ppm normally you start getting 
larger particles, instead of more particles.  What is important is the amount of
surface area, and as the particles get larger more of the silver ends up inside 
where it can do no good.  Also as the particles get larger the become too large 
to be absorbed through the stomach wall.  Therefore for the maximum value 5 ot 
20 ppm is likley the best range, with 5ppm being the most stable.

20 ppm is probably best for external use since absorption through the stomach 
wall is irrelevent.

Marshall


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Re: CSUngrey Hair

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Black wrote:

 Marsha,
 Have you known anyone that using CS for hair loss worked for?
 I suspect that coloring my hair with those horrible chemicals for many, many
 years may have damaged the roots, and possibly my brains too.  Am dumping CS
 on my head everyday in hopes that your theory is the right one, but if not I
 will certainly have the most bacteria, virus -free head in town.  alot
 cheaper than shampoo to boot.
 Will surely give you a report at first sign of a thicker head of grey hair.

Well, Bob Beck claims that CS restored his hair.  But if mine came back in
looking like his, I think I would rather remain with a receding hair line.

Marshall


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Re: CSOT, help little girl

2000-11-06 Thread d.linen
Try this Marshall,

http://www.geocities.com/compu_dr/aime/aime.htm

Marshall Dudley wrote:
 
 This page went to nothing interesting for me.
 
 Marshall
 
 Debbie McDonald wrote:
 
  http://www.geocities.com/compu dr/aime/aime.htm
 
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Re: CSUngrey Hair

2000-11-06 Thread Magus
It was not just CS; it was also his thumper, the magnetic pulser.

Marshall Dudley wrote:


 Well, Bob Beck claims that CS restored his hair.  But if mine came back in
 looking like his, I think I would rather remain with a receding hair line.

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Re: CSUngrey Hair

2000-11-06 Thread russ e rosser


On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 11:20:58 -0500 Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
writes:

 Well, Bob Beck claims that CS restored his hair.  

I believe he attributed this to his elevtrical devices, not CS. 

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CShair growth

2000-11-06 Thread Annhope1
I suspect that coloring my hair with those horrible chemicals for many, 
many years may have damaged the roots, and possibly my brains too.  Am 
dumping CS on my head everyday in hopes that your theory is the right one, 
but if not I will certainly have the most bacteria, virus -free head in 
town.  alot cheaper than shampoo to boot. Will surely give you a report at 
first sign of a thicker head of grey hair.
Nancy...

 Nancy,
 Fact:  the scalp gets less bloodflow as we get older and a very simple 
remedy for thinning hair is to massage the head daily. Laying down on 
couch/bed with head over the edge so bloodflow reaches that area easier and 
massage vigoursly .. keeping  comfort in mind. My own father has done this 
and swears he saw hair regrow upwards of the temple region, where it had not 
been before. Hes 83 and still has most of his hair.
Terri L.





CSslippery elm bark

2000-11-06 Thread Annhope1
Have you tried olive leaf extract?  Also you might try magnetic pulsing the 
abdomin.
Marshall

Mary wrote:
 Dear List,
 My son has this bowel problem from the vax. No matter what I do, he has 
this inflammation of the colon (autistic enterocolitis) Does anyone have any 
suggestions? I have him on a paleo diet and he has improved but there is this 
artificial measles virus (from the MMR)  in the colon that invades the 
mucosal tissues. All suggestions appreciated. Thank you, Mary

Mary,
Have you tried Slipper Elm Bark, very soothing to the stomach and intestines. 
Sold at health food stores. Know many who use it, for many reasons, 
concerning digestive system. I have even given it to 4 wk old kitten for 
diarrhea, works within 24 - 36 hrs.  
Terri


CSFw: (zapper electrode source)

2000-11-06 Thread Duncan Crow


| Hi folks;
|
| After contacting two electrode manufacturers...
|
| http://www.hpms.com/catalog.htm#ELECTRODES didn't reply at all.
|
| http://www.medi-source.com/price.htm Russ Latimer was very helpful and
| interested - we talked for an hour on the phone. Dealer inquiries are
| invited.
|
| So, zappers,  if you see what you like on the medi-source price list,
please
| contact Nancy, the medi-source distributor in Washington State, for the
| product. She's into althealth and can advise on several diverse points.
|
| Nancy can be reached at nospam...@northwest.net (remove'nospam' to send).
| Nancy has the safe and proper TENS electrodes we seek for zappers and
| TransCranial Electronic Stimulation (TCES) devices, and they can be cut
1/4
| wide for blood electrification, (provided you don't cut through the
wires).
|
| For those interested, Nancy is also an Alphastim distributor.
|
| Please forward to other lists.
|
| ciao
|
| Duncan
|
|
|


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Re: CSMaking your own energised water

2000-11-06 Thread harvey norris

Since structured water is made by RELATIVE movement
of a magnetic field to water, Why cant we instead have
an 60 hz AC magnetic field moving in a nonmoving
sample of water to produce the same effect. If that
will work wouldnt a high frequency AC be better? HDN

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Re: CStaking a bath

2000-11-06 Thread Ted Windsor
Add a cup of Sea salt and a cup of baking soda, you will find it works
even better.
Blessings
Ted

Marshall Dudley wrote:

 I have been putting CS and H2O2 in my bath water for the last month.
 I have noticed that any warts I have on my body have been getting
 smaller.  In another month they may be gone!

 Marshall

 itssu...@aol.com wrote:

 Everyone seems to discuss taking CS orally or by another form of
 administration.  What about putting CS into bath water?  Are there
 any
 studies or knowledge on absorption rate?  Would it also absorb
 through the
 skin?  Thank you.  suzy



Re: CSMaking your own energised water

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
A very important part of it from what I understand is that the water must be
under sheer, which it would not be if it is not moving.

Marshall

harvey norris wrote:

 Since structured water is made by RELATIVE movement
 of a magnetic field to water, Why cant we instead have
 an 60 hz AC magnetic field moving in a nonmoving
 sample of water to produce the same effect. If that
 will work wouldnt a high frequency AC be better? HDN

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CSPossible, Useful CS Prophylactic

2000-11-06 Thread BROOKS BRADLEY
A recent review of some interesting literature sources
reminded me of a, possibly, useful application of CS as a prophylactic.
   Very young children of parents exhibiting hemochromatosis
(excessive iron storage) appear to be at a very pronounced risk---if
they contract disease organisms and/or  cancer microbe exposure.  A
majority of these organisms appear to feed on iron---a powerful catalyst
for generating damaging free radicals;  but they starve without it.
Additionally, babies  on high-iron  formulas (am/or iron drops) can,
apparently, encounter a very sudden death---in event of botulism .
Since both hemochromatosis aggravation and the possibility of
encountering botulinum are chance events, it would appear judicious to
consider controllable alternatives..
Were my wife and I still in our child-bearing years, we
would SERIOUSLY
consider employing CS prophylactically (in our infant's diet).as a
mitigating factor against these very real potential risks.
Colloidal silver is the only non-toxic substance we have
ever found that gives, safe, immediate control of botulinum.  It does so
in very small concentrations.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.


Re: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
I am not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean the mechanism, or
how well would it work?

The mechanism would be the same I believe as how it works with the lymph
nodes.  The sharp change in magnetic field causes an eddy current to be
generated in the tissue which kills the pathogens.

Marshall

Janet Lubart wrote:

  Dear Marshall,How would the mag-pulser work in the
 abdomen?Sincerely,Janet

  -Original Message-
  From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 7:50 AM
  Subject: Re: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism
   Have you tried olive leaf extract?  Also you might try
  magnetic pulsing the abdomin.

  Marshall

  Mary wrote:

  Dear List,
 
  My son has this bowel problem from the vax. No matter what
  I do, he has this
  inflammation of the colon (autistic enterocolitis) Does
  anyone have any
  suggestions? I have him on a paleo diet and he has
  improved but there is
  this artificial measles virus (from the MMR)  in the colon
  that invades the
  mucosal tissues. All suggestions appreciated. Thank you,
  Mary
  
  
 
  'Triple Jab Autism (MMR) Could Be Next BSE'
 
  [By Sarah-Kate Templeton Health Editor in the Sunday
  Herald, UK.]
  http://www.s
  ndayherald.com/news/newsi.hts?section=Newsamp;story_id=12363
 
The consultant who first suggested that the MMR
  vaccine causes autism
  has warned MSPs that government failure to face up to the
  danger will lead
  to a catastrophe on the scale of the BSE crisis (Mad Cow
  Disease).
Dr Andrew Wakefield told a Scottish parliament
  cross-party group on
  autism, launched in Edinburgh last week, that the UK faces
  an epidemic of
  the lifelong disorder. He renewed his call for single
  vaccines to be used to
  immunise against measles, mumps and rubella.
On a two-day visit to Scotland, Wakefield - a
  consultant
  gastroenterologist at the Royal Free Hospital in London -
  hit out at Sir
  Kenneth Calman, the chief medical officer in 1998.
In the official report into the BSE crisis, Calman
  was blamed for
  saying that beef was safe. Wakefield said Calman had taken
  the same approach
  to the MMR scare.
Calman had warned that a wave of lethal epidemics
  could sweep Britain
  if parents went on refusing combined vaccines. The former
  chief medical
  officer had said there was no need, on the basis of
  evidence presented by
  Wakefield, to change vaccination policy.
Wakefield said: These same people have been seen as
  victims of their
  own handling of BSE, and that is where we are heading with
  the MMR.
It is going to take a strong body of people that
  are not prepared to
  be pushed around to prevent a similar situation.
I feel strongly that, if this is something we have
  contributed to by
  our own failure to act, then we have a moral obligation to
  look after these
  children for all time.
  He dismissed claims that the rising incidence of autism is
  a result of a
  change in diagnostic criteria and insisted we are now
  seeing an epidemic .
At a Glasgow conference on the causes of autism, the
  consultant
  explained how numerous families approached him, all with
  the same story to
  tell. Their children all had autism and bowel problems and
  they believed
  that the two were linked and that they had started as a
  direct consequence
  of the MMR vaccine. They said that, until vaccination,
  their children had
  been developing normally.
Wakefield said: At first we were sceptical but the
  story was so
  consistent that we felt we had to investigate.
Of the 160 autistic children we looked at, only
  five did not have
  bowel disease. The parents were right. The medical
  profession was wrong.
The expert attacked others for ignoring claims of a
  link. He said:
  When the parent tells you they believe the problems
  started after exposure
  to the MMR vaccine, do you say, 'That is very interesting
  but politically it
  makes me very uncomfortable'? No, you bring together
  experts from around the
  world and you accept the over-riding need to establish
  whether there is a
  link.
Wakefield said research carried out by his team and
  Professor John
  O'Leary of Coombe Women's Hospital in Dublin - and
  presented to a US
  Congressional hearing earlier this year - was clear
  evidence of a link. He
  said further research papers, to be 

Re: CSHVAC/ARC Transformer source?

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Watch many science fiction movies, such as frankenstein and you will see a
device with two wires running up from a box, with a spark that starts at the
bottom and moves up the wire, to extinguish and repeat endlessly.  That is a
jacob ladder and is exrtremely easy to make with a neon sign transformer and a
coat hanger broken into 2 pieces.

Marshall

V. Richter wrote:

 Thanks Marshall and everyone else who has helped me with this project.

 I just got off the phone with the local Neon Sign shop and they are going to
 sell me a neon sign transformer 120/15000V 60ma for $140.  He was naturally
 curious about what I wanted it for.  I told him I wanted it to make a
 Colloidal Silver Generator and he wanted to know what that was.  I then told
 him that it is a product of Distilled water, 2 pieces of pure silver (1 if
 it's from a DC source) and the voltage applied to the silver puts a current
 through the water and suspends microscopic particles of silver in the water.
 This solution kills bacteria dead, better than any antibiotic and with none
 of the side effects of antibiotics.  I told him that before antibiotics
 silver was being used for this purpose and many people were rediscovering
 this and benefitting from it.  When he heard I have an electrical background
 from being a US Navy electrician he seemed to take the attitude: To each
 his own.  I don't think he's going to want to know any more about how to
 make CS with HVAC/ARC method, but he's going to sell me a transformer
 anyway.

 Now you've got me curious.  What is a Jacobs ladder?

 Vince Richter

 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 9:44 AM
 Subject: Re: CSHVAC/ARC Transformer source?

  Most neon sign places have use units they will sell for very little, or in
 many
  cases will give them to you.  Tell them you are going to build a jacob
 Ladder.
  Then when you get home build one.  Then tear it down and use it for the
 CS.
 
  Marshall
 

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Re: CSPossible, Useful CS Prophylactic and some observations

2000-11-06 Thread Jason Eaton
Very well said Brooks!

I can attest to our son's continued excellent health, in part due to small 
amounts of colloidal silver as an actual part of his diet.The high levels 
of iron has always been a concern.

I'm actually going on three years of steady colloidal silver use myself.  
Sadly, I have not turned blue yet...  And so I cannot fulfill my fantasy of 
tatooing my entire body and joining some artistic colony, travelling the desert 
gleening mystical messages from the wind swept landscapes.  Ah well.

On another note, I've been experimenting with bentonite and colloidal silver 
the past several months.  Sadly, I have not the funds to do some lab analysis 
that might be fascinating.  My primary concern with the use of colloidal silver 
externally is twofold:

1)  Colloidal Silver is obviously most effective when it remains colloidal.  
Any solution applied to the skin dries through evaporation very quickly.

2)  It has been my experience that colloidal silver can be an irritant when 
applied to very sensitive skin types with various chronic skin infections.  My 
best guess has always been that the distilled water evaporating disturbs the PH 
balance of the skin.  The CS reaches a level of ineffectiveness, and yet the 
tissue irritation remains which can lead to a spreading of the infection.  Of 
course, the biggest problem here is that these infections are usually a symptom 
and not a cause.

Creating a bentonite/colloidal silver solution has proved advantageous.  
Roughly, an seven parts colloidal silver ( about 30ppm ) to one part bentonite 
solution can be used in a dressing treatment.  The dressing is thoroughly 
soaked with the solution and applied topically.  The dressing can easily remain 
wet for an hour, and careful observation of tissues following treatment shows a 
marked change.

Roughly, a five parts to one part concoction forms a salve which can be applied 
to the skin, left to air OR covered with a dressing.  My greatest concern with 
this method is the potential for the bentonite to actually deposit the silver 
in the deeper layers of tissue ( not a factor with the 7-1 solution ).

..Jason


  - Original Message - 
  From: BROOKS BRADLEY 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 2:18 PM
  Subject: CSPossible, Useful CS Prophylactic


  A recent review of some interesting literature sources 
reminded me of a, possibly, useful application of CS as a prophylactic. 
 Very young children of parents exhibiting hemochromatosis 
(excessive iron storage) appear to be at a very pronounced risk---if they 
contract disease organisms and/or  cancer microbe exposure.  A majority of 
these organisms appear to feed on iron---a powerful catalyst for generating 
damaging free radicals;  but they starve without it.  Additionally, babies  on 
high-iron  formulas (am/or iron drops) can, apparently, encounter a very sudden 
death---in event of botulism .  Since both hemochromatosis aggravation and the 
possibility of encountering botulinum are chance events, it would appear 
judicious to consider controllable alternatives.. 
  Were my wife and I still in our child-bearing years, we would 
SERIOUSLY 
  consider employing CS prophylactically (in our infant's diet).as a 
mitigating factor against these very real potential risks. 
  Colloidal silver is the only non-toxic substance we have ever 
found that gives, safe, immediate control of botulinum.  It does so in very 
small concentrations. 
  Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley. 


Re: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism

2000-11-06 Thread Janet Lubart
Dear Marshall,
How would the mag-pulser work in the abdomen?
Sincerely,
Janet
-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism


Have you tried olive leaf extract?  Also you might try magnetic pulsing the 
abdomin. 
Marshall 

Mary wrote: 

Dear List, 
My son has this bowel problem from the vax. No matter what I do, he has 
this 
inflammation of the colon (autistic enterocolitis) Does anyone have any 
suggestions? I have him on a paleo diet and he has improved but there 
is 
this artificial measles virus (from the MMR)  in the colon that invades 
the 
mucosal tissues. All suggestions appreciated. Thank you, Mary 
_ 

'Triple Jab Autism (MMR) Could Be Next BSE' 

[By Sarah-Kate Templeton Health Editor in the Sunday Herald, UK.] 

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/newsi.hts?section=Newsamp;story_id=12363 

  The consultant who first suggested that the MMR vaccine causes 
autism 
has warned MSPs that government failure to face up to the danger will 
lead 
to a catastrophe on the scale of the BSE crisis (Mad Cow Disease). 
  Dr Andrew Wakefield told a Scottish parliament cross-party group 
on 
autism, launched in Edinburgh last week, that the UK faces an epidemic 
of 
the lifelong disorder. He renewed his call for single vaccines to be 
used to 
immunise against measles, mumps and rubella. 
  On a two-day visit to Scotland, Wakefield - a consultant 
gastroenterologist at the Royal Free Hospital in London - hit out at 
Sir 
Kenneth Calman, the chief medical officer in 1998. 
  In the official report into the BSE crisis, Calman was blamed for 
saying that beef was safe. Wakefield said Calman had taken the same 
approach 
to the MMR scare. 
  Calman had warned that a wave of lethal epidemics could sweep 
Britain 
if parents went on refusing combined vaccines. The former chief medical 
officer had said there was no need, on the basis of evidence presented 
by 
Wakefield, to change vaccination policy. 
  Wakefield said: These same people have been seen as victims of 
their 
own handling of BSE, and that is where we are heading with the MMR. 
  It is going to take a strong body of people that are not 
prepared to 
be pushed around to prevent a similar situation. 
  I feel strongly that, if this is something we have contributed 
to by 
our own failure to act, then we have a moral obligation to look after 
these 
children for all time. 
He dismissed claims that the rising incidence of autism is a result of 
a 
change in diagnostic criteria and insisted we are now seeing an 
epidemic . 
  At a Glasgow conference on the causes of autism, the consultant 
explained how numerous families approached him, all with the same story 
to 
tell. Their children all had autism and bowel problems and they 
believed 
that the two were linked and that they had started as a direct 
consequence 
of the MMR vaccine. They said that, until vaccination, their children 
had 
been developing normally. 
  Wakefield said: At first we were sceptical but the story was so 
consistent that we felt we had to investigate. 
  Of the 160 autistic children we looked at, only five did not 
have 
bowel disease. The parents were right. The medical profession was 
wrong. 
  The expert attacked others for ignoring claims of a link. He 
said: 
When the parent tells you they believe the problems started after 
exposure 
to the MMR vaccine, do you say, 'That is very interesting but 
politically it 
makes me very uncomfortable'? No, you bring together experts from 
around the 
world and you accept the over-riding need to establish whether there is 
a 
link. 
  Wakefield said research carried out by his team and Professor 
John 
O'Leary of Coombe Women's Hospital in Dublin - and presented to a US 
Congressional hearing earlier this year - was clear evidence of a link. 
He 
said further research papers, to be published shortly, would confirm 
these 
findings. 
  He emphasised: I am not anti-vaccine. It is a recognition that 
one 
plus one plus one is not equal to three. It is about the way the live 
viruses behave. 
  We have data suggesting there is interaction between the 
compounds 
that may pose a risk. 

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Re: CSHVAC/ARC Transformer source?

2000-11-06 Thread d.linen


V. Richter wrote:

 Now you've got me curious.  What is a Jacobs ladder?
 
 Vince Richter

That's cool Vince. A Jacobs ladder is a sort of climbing arc that is
gapped from about 1/4 inch to 1 to 3 inches at the top from a height of
several feet. The spark climbs up the wires. Frankenstein movies usually
feature one of these but usually rather large ones to look really
scientific and spooky. 

Diane


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Re: CSFw: NOTMILK STOSSELED BY A HOSTILE FOSSIL

2000-11-06 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 11/6/00 4:39:02 PM EST, mdev...@eskimo.com writes:

 Subj: Re: CSFw: NOTMILK  STOSSELED BY A HOSTILE FOSSIL
 Date:  11/6/00 4:39:02 PM EST
 From:  mdev...@eskimo.com (M. G. Devour)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 I'm pleased to hear this! In the past, I'd understood Stossel to be one 
 of the good guys in the mainstream media. He has given fair and 
 balanced treatment to some very controversial issues where the other 
 side is not usually presented in the dominant press.
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
  Hi Robert,
  
  Apparently you MISSED the entire thesis of Stossel's report!
  
  He was NOT commenting on the dangers of dioxin but rather on the
  Politically Correct yet illogical reasoning of Ben  Jerry's.  BJ
  were demanding their suppliers of carton's that pack their ice cream
  have no dioxin in them.  BJ then  distributed literature in their
  outlets informing consumers of such a good deed and their literature
  stated any level of dioxin is dangerous.   Yet BJ simply omitted
  telling the consumers of their products that their product itself has
  much more dioxin than the original containers ever thought of having!
 
 [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
 [mdev...@eskimo.com]
 [Speaking only for myself...   ]
 
  

Mike: My problem with Stossel is that he appears to decide FIRST who's side 
he's on and then prepares to stack the deck to support his forgone 
conclusion. I haven't seen him recently. Maybe he's changed for the better. 
Roger


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Re: CSHVAC/ARC Transformer source? also, External CS

2000-11-06 Thread V. Richter
Yep, I've seen these and didn't know what they were.  Thanks.  This CS list
is great :)

BTW, a very effective CS application to use externally was shown to me by my
local CS production mentor.  He uses one half CS and one half DMSO.  I'm
sure the ratio can be varied.  He uses CS of about 45 ppm and very small
particles.  The half and half solution would then become 22.5ppm to start
with.

Vince

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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: CSHVAC/ARC Transformer source?


 Watch many science fiction movies, such as frankenstein and you will see a
 device with two wires running up from a box, with a spark that starts at
the
 bottom and moves up the wire, to extinguish and repeat endlessly.  That is
a
 jacob ladder and is exrtremely easy to make with a neon sign transformer
and a
 coat hanger broken into 2 pieces.

 Marshall



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CSGaston and Carbs

2000-11-06 Thread Joanne
Joanne ThomasonHi Gaston--Thank you for your information.  It was very 
interesting.  If you look at the diet of so many of our younf people and hwo 
many of them spend their time it is no wonder that diaetec is on the rise.
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CSHVAC ARC Structured water

2000-11-06 Thread Robert L. Berger

Hold on to your hats kiddies!!!

Ole Bob is about to increase the interest in neon sign transformers.

While running the HVAC ARC method in a clear glass jar I noticed that
when I gentled stirred the CS I could see the difussion of a heavier
liquid in the DW.

In talking to Dr Bill Biagioli today, who makes ARC CS reported that the
viscosity of the CS has increased 50% over the value of the raw DW.  At
this very  monent I and running a batch and I can see the lines showing
the difference in refraction of the two liquids.

By the way Dr. Bill's TEM's show the same energy patterns that mine
does.

Ok Gurus what is going on

Ole Bob


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RE: CS PPM

2000-11-06 Thread searle1
If indeed argyria is caused by the ingestion of large-particle silver, then it 
stands that large 
particles will, in fact, absorb through the stomach and/or intestinal wall. 
Therefore, any 
assumption that high-ppm CS won't be absorbed is fallacious. There has to be 
more to the 
story than ppm.

Sam Earle



 Willie L. Forbes wrote:
 
  I have heard that the higher the ppm is the better the CS quality. I have 
  an associate who 
claims he is using 500 ppm which is suppose to be much better for you 
therapeuticly. He 
claims that the 5ppm is not enough to have any value health wise, and that you 
would have to 
consume much much more to have any real effect.
  I don't know this is all new to me. Can someone help?
 
  Willie L. Forbes
 
 
 Not so.  There is a peak in the effectiveness for internal use which is 
 fairly broad from 5 to 
about 20 ppm.  AT 5 ppm you have virtually 100% bsorption into the blood 
stream, and 
once you get above 7 to 8 ppm normally you start getting larger particles, 
instead of more 
particles.  What is important is the amount of
 surface area, and as the particles get larger more of the silver ends up 
 inside where it can 
do no good.  Also as the particles get larger the become too large to be 
absorbed through 
the stomach wall.  Therefore for the maximum value 5 ot 20 ppm is likley the 
best range, with 
5ppm being the most stable.
 
 20 ppm is probably best for external use since absorption through the stomach 
 wall is 
irrelevent.
 
 Marshall
 
 
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Re: CSRobert and Ted

2000-11-06 Thread Joanne Thomason
Hi Ted--I don't know either how the numbers compare in Canada, you are on the 
metric system.  I am curious and will try to find out.  Does you wife (or you) 
eat any sugar?My BS has been incredibly good lately.  Good Luck
Joanne
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  From: Ted Windsor 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 5:11 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRobert and Ted


  Hi Joanne: 
  I am not sure if the same reference is used in Canada as in the US.  Blood 
Sugar level of 4 to 8 is expectable my wife count was up to 15, I will let you 
know if it stays within normal range after her taking these chinese herbs,  the 
herbalist said it would take four months to correct her problem, she is also 
taking a herbal tea, two cups per day. 
  Blessings 
  Ted 
  Joanne wrote: 

Hi Robert..Thank you for your kind words and encouragement.  I had extra 
time with my computer today so went to the milk site you posted.  Now I have to 
give up cheese besides sugar Oh Well- Hi Ted--You said your wife's 
number was below 8.  Do you test differently or was that a 3 month number which 
are  usually single digit as far as I know..  Do keep me posted on her progress 
 My last 3 month test was 6.9Sincerely 
Joanne 
  
  
  
  
   
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Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction

2000-11-06 Thread V. Richter
Flow meter, valves, CO2 tank?  sounds like a great mixing mechanism.  I hadn't 
planned on mixing, but it may be a good idea.  Is that the purpose?

Thanks,

Vince
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  From: Robert Bartell 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 5:40 AM
  Subject: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction


  Hi ole Bob,

  Over the week-end and today, I have acquired all the PVC pipe and fittings 
that you specified and purchased a brand new Actown transformer, 120 volts 
primary in and 12,000 volts at 30 mA out - secondary mid point grounded. I 
think we now have enough to proceed with construction while I go shopping for 
the CO2 tank, flow meter and valves.  Sounds like Vince and a couple of others 
are looking over our shoulders as we get this unit up and operating, so we'll 
keep it on the list instead of going off-line if that's ok with you.  Ready 
for Phase II.  What do we do next?
  Regards:  Robert Bartell


Re: CSGaston and Carbs

2000-11-06 Thread Jan Sey
Hi Joanne, I think I got this email by mistake..My name is Jan  I don't 
know who you are.. Thank.




From: Joanne sami...@earthlink.net
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To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSGaston and Carbs
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:12:01 -0800

Joanne ThomasonHi Gaston--Thank you for your information.  It was very 
interesting.  If you look at the diet of so many of our younf people and 
hwo many of them spend their time it is no wonder that diaetec is on the 
rise.

Joanne






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Re: CSMaking your own energised water , negative polarity

2000-11-06 Thread Janet Lubart
Dear Friends,
Dr. Phillpott MD told me for years to put all spring water on a heavy
negative pole magnet for 5+ minutes before drinking . He would say that the
process would keep away viruses, bacteria and cancer. His whole theory was
based on the theory that
pathogens cause disease  and that food sensitivies and cell changes develop
from pathogen damage. His big cure for many diseases is to keep everything
in the negative polarity mode. Food, water, YOUR BODY. How does that apply
to the energized water that we are discussing?
Thanks,
Janet
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSMaking your own energised water



Since structured water is made by RELATIVE movement
of a magnetic field to water, Why cant we instead have
an 60 hz AC magnetic field moving in a nonmoving
sample of water to produce the same effect. If that
will work wouldnt a high frequency AC be better? HDN

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Re: CSHVAC ARC Structured water

2000-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Don't know, but I can take a wild guess.  The particles are packed in and
equally spaced via repulsion from the positive charge on each.  So
additional energy is needed to dislodge each particle from it's preferred
position, or the particles tend to want to stay in the same place, so the
water has to flow around them.

Interesting.  How do you measure viscosity in the range of 1.  The pour and
drip method are probably not very effective at low viscosities.

Marshall

Robert L. Berger wrote:

 Hold on to your hats kiddies!!!

 Ole Bob is about to increase the interest in neon sign transformers.

 While running the HVAC ARC method in a clear glass jar I noticed that
 when I gentled stirred the CS I could see the difussion of a heavier
 liquid in the DW.

 In talking to Dr Bill Biagioli today, who makes ARC CS reported that the
 viscosity of the CS has increased 50% over the value of the raw DW.  At
 this very  monent I and running a batch and I can see the lines showing
 the difference in refraction of the two liquids.

 By the way Dr. Bill's TEM's show the same energy patterns that mine
 does.

 Ok Gurus what is going on

 Ole Bob

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CS PPM

2000-11-06 Thread Willie L. Forbes
If I wanted to make CS of a certain ppm what is required?
Is it processing time? what determines if a batch is 5ppm vs 20ppm?

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Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction

2000-11-06 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Robert.

With the PVC piping for the dry ice method you will not need the CO2
tanks, etc.

I will make the jar cover so that we can do both.

One other item, now this may sound strange but go to an auto parts store
and get a Bosch platinum spark plug. That will be the center electrode.

Do you have DMM with AC current scales?

Tomorrow I will send you the dimension for cutting and gluing the
plastic Dry ice holder.

The change in viscosity is a VERY interesting phenomenon.

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Re: CSMaking your own energised water

2000-11-06 Thread Carol Mike Fuller
Hi Ole Bob

On 06-Nov-00, Robert L. Berger wrote:
 Mike;
 
 Just a note on swizzling the bottle to start a voetex. In the northern
 hemisphere on must swizzle the bottle counter clockwise and in the southern
 hemisphere it must be clockwise.  the roration of the earth demands it.

I'll grant you this one although there are many who debunk this theory.  I
think New Scientist had a piece on it some time back.

 Flush the toilet and watch the water.

I haven't had to take a close interest in the bottom of my toilet bowl for
quite a few years, perhaps the last time I ate Kentucky Fried Chicken :-( 
 
 I was also wondering if the yoke from an old TV energized with DC would not
 work for the magentic structure?

I wouldn't be using _electro_magnetics near any water I was trying to
'energise' or restructure, but that may be just a personal preference.
 
Namaste

Mike Fuller


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CSNewsweek Lyme disease article

2000-11-06 Thread spiroflx
IMPORTANT NOTICE FROM DR. BURRASCANO regarding the Lyme disease legal
goings-on in New York State and the nature and extent of the disease.
Newsweek magazine will run a story on Chronic Lyme, and my problems with
New York State. It is being published TODAY and will be on the newsstands
TOMORROW, Monday, Nov. 6. Please check it out, and be prepared to send
letters to the editor (with copies sent to other appropriate contacts).
Please also spread the word to everyone! Thanks, Dr. B.!
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Re: CSPossible, Useful CS Prophylactic and some observations

2000-11-06 Thread BROOKS BRADLEY
Dear Jason,
We have, in the past, evaluated
bentonite and kindred clays, as a protocol support for CSin topical
applications.  Our results were mixed.  We have experienced superior
results using Raw honey X CS mixtures around 50% each, by volume.
Honey, like bentonite, is hygroscopicbut with the attendant
advantages of  exhibiting antiseptic qualities of its own---and
releasing microscopic quantities of H202 directly at the wound
surface/atmosphere interfaceon a continuing basis.
One adjunctive procedure we found of considerable
value in pain management for volunteers experiencing pronounced pain
from exposed nerve tissue, was the substitution of 2% strength Lidocaine
solution for 10% of the CS solution (by volume).  This modification
ameliorated all attendant pain (within 5 minutes) at the insult
surfacein all cases where employed.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
p.s.  Do remember that hygroscopic substances are, essentially,
dessicators and as such are continually drawing moisture from the tissue
fields to which they are applied. This being the case, there is a
minimum of true particle exchange between the subject tissue and the
hygroscopic material (in the absence of an entraining transporter such
as DMSO).  Apparently, there is some conduction from the tissue side
toward the hygroscopic interface..at least until one field or the
other experiences complete dessication.

Jason Eaton wrote:

 Very well said Brooks! I can attest to our son's continued excellent
 health, in part due to small amounts of colloidal silver as an actual
 part of his diet.The high levels of iron has always been a
 concern. I'm actually going on three years of steady colloidal silver
 use myself.  Sadly, I have not turned blue yet...  And so I cannot
 fulfill my fantasy of tatooing my entire body and joining some
 artistic colony, travelling the desert gleening mystical messages from
 the wind swept landscapes.  Ah well. On another note, I've been
 experimenting with bentonite and colloidal silver the past several
 months.  Sadly, I have not the funds to do some lab analysis that
 might be fascinating.  My primary concern with the use of colloidal
 silver externally is twofold: 1)  Colloidal Silver is obviously most
 effective when it remains colloidal.  Any solution applied to the skin
 dries through evaporation very quickly. 2)  It has been my experience
 that colloidal silver can be an irritant when applied to very
 sensitive skin types with various chronic skin infections.  My best
 guess has always been that the distilled water evaporating disturbs
 the PH balance of the skin.  The CS reaches a level of
 ineffectiveness, and yet the tissue irritation remains which can lead
 to a spreading of the infection.  Of course, the biggest problem here
 is that these infections are usually a symptom and not a cause.
 Creating a bentonite/colloidal silver solution has proved
 advantageous.  Roughly, an seven parts colloidal silver ( about 30ppm
 ) to one part bentonite solution can be used in a dressing treatment.
 The dressing is thoroughly soaked with the solution and applied
 topically.  The dressing can easily remain wet for an hour, and
 careful observation of tissues following treatment shows a marked
 change. Roughly, a five parts to one part concoction forms a salve
 which can be applied to the skin, left to air OR covered with a
 dressing.  My greatest concern with this method is the potential for
 the bentonite to actually deposit the silver in the deeper layers of
 tissue ( not a factor with the 7-1 solution ). ...Jason

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  Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 2:18 PM
  Subject: CSPossible, Useful CS Prophylactic
   A recent review of some interesting
  literature sources reminded me of a, possibly, useful
  application of CS as a prophylactic.
 Very young children of parents exhibiting
  hemochromatosis (excessive iron storage) appear to be at a
  very pronounced risk---if they contract disease organisms
  and/or  cancer microbe exposure.  A majority of these
  organisms appear to feed on iron---a powerful catalyst for
  generating damaging free radicals;  but they starve without
  it.  Additionally, babies  on high-iron  formulas (am/or
  iron drops) can, apparently, encounter a very sudden
  death---in event of botulism .  Since both hemochromatosis
  aggravation and the possibility of encountering botulinum
  are chance events, it would appear judicious to consider
  controllable alternatives..
  Were my wife and I still in our
  child-bearing years, we would SERIOUSLY
  consider employing CS prophylactically (in our infant's
  diet).as a mitigating factor against 

Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction

2000-11-06 Thread V. Richter
Thanks Robert,
I'm reading daily but looks like I missed some of the earlier.  

Vince
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  From: Robert Bartell 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 8:16 AM
  Subject: Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction


  Hey Vince, 
  Looks like Ole Bob's model, which I hope to duplicate, sinters off much finer 
particles from the anode by arcing HV through co2 gas. The particles also carry 
a stronger electrical charge.(Longer shelf life) He describes his unit as HVAC 
ARC CO2. The PVC pipe and fittings are for construction of a dry ice cannister 
that will feed CO2  into the top of the DW jar. The CO2 tank (same as they use 
for soft drinks) will replace the dry ice CO2 unit for more serious control 
over the CO2 with pressure valves and a flow meter. In case you missed it, here 
is what Ole Bob said in a previous post.




Re: CSHVAC ARC Structured water

2000-11-06 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 11/6/00 6:42:04 PM EST, bober...@swbell.net writes:

 Subj: CSHVAC ARC Structured water
 Date:  11/6/00 6:42:04 PM EST
 From:  bober...@swbell.net (Robert L. Berger)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com (silver-list)
 
 
 Hold on to your hats kiddies!!!
 
 Ole Bob is about to increase the interest in neon sign transformers.
 
 While running the HVAC ARC method in a clear glass jar I noticed that
 when I gentled stirred the CS I could see the difussion of a heavier
 liquid in the DW.
 
 In talking to Dr Bill Biagioli today, who makes ARC CS reported that the
 viscosity of the CS has increased 50% over the value of the raw DW.  At
 this very  monent I and running a batch and I can see the lines showing
 the difference in refraction of the two liquids.
 
 By the way Dr. Bill's TEM's show the same energy patterns that mine
 does.
 
 Ok Gurus what is going on
 
 Ole Bob
 
  

Ole Bob: First, how do you know that the viscosity has increased 50%? Was the 
viscosity actually measured? If so, how was the bath sampled? If there was 
such a large viscosity gradient sampling would have been difficult. Let's 
assume that the viscosity had indeed changed (increased, I assume) by 50% for 
a nominal CS concentration in the range of 10 - 15 PPM. Using LVDC CS for 
comparison, measure its viscosity and compare it to the arc-made, HVAC CS. 
Assuming that the CS itself was not responsible for the greater viscosity 
(which could be demonstrated if the viscosities of LVDC and arc-made HVAC CS 
were compared), there is only one other possibility, the structure of the 
water molecules has changed. Since the viscosity has increased, the most 
likely explanation is that the symmetry of the molecular ordering has been 
extended (beyond the typical short range ordering in common water) and 
perhaps is beginning to take on an orderly pattern similar to liquid water at 
0 degrees centigrade just before it freezes. In any case, greater order (more 
structure) would produce higher viscosity because there are less slip 
planes available for the shear caused when one group of molecules slides 
past another group. Roger


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CSFernando's email

2000-11-06 Thread Terry Wayne
Fernando,
You sent me an email (off list) asking for info, but
you got deleted before I could get back to you. Please
send me another email.
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CSFwd:

2000-11-06 Thread Alvin Rose





  Are Blood Purifiers and Zappers safe to use?

Primarily people question the safety of the electricity applied. They 
want to know that they won't get electrocuted and
that the electricity won't do any harm to their cells. Dr Kaali was 
quoted in the Houston Post as saying that this level
(50-100ua) of electrical energy has no toxic side effects. To be 
'electrocuted' takes hundreds times more electricity
than this. The most people ever feel is a slight tingling sensation. 
Also, after months of using blood electrification, my
blood was analyzed under a microscope and the doctor said it was some 
of the healthiest blood he had ever seen.
Robert Beck has told of a blood analysis that revealed that blood 
normally stays alive for 4 days in a microscope
slide, but will last for one month if taken from someone who has 
undergone blood electrification treatment! The
current from these Beck and Rife devices is actually less than the 
AMA approved TENS units, and the Pulser
delivers only momentary pulses of a magnetic strength that is less 
than that of MRI (Magnetic Nuclear Resonance

Imaging) body scanners.
Also please consider the following AMA approved units which use 
electricity on the body: Muscle stimulators
relieve pain, reduce spasms and edema, tonify weak muscles, and 
assist the healing process, run at from 1 to
130 Hz. TENS units are used to block pain run at about 80 to 90 Hz. 
Interferential Therapy units are a type of
muscle stimulator run at 3000 to 4000 Hz. Bio Feedback instruments 
used to modify behavior and retrain the
nervous and muscular systems, run from below 1Hz to about 40 Hz. Bone 
Growth Stimulators, used to heal
broken bones, run at various frequencies. Deep Brain Stimulators, 
which use implanted electrodes to impart
electrical pulses, run from between 120 and 160 Hz directly to the 
brain to control involuntary muscular
tremors in Parkinson's disease. Heart Pacemakers use an electrical 
impulse to regulate the hearts ryhthm.


So, in conclusion I can say that using the devices as recommended 
poses no health threat, only health benefit.




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Re: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Good job on this post, Mary -
From what I hear, colloidal silver is a safe and effective colonic. It has 
been suggested that one could increase the internal consumption amount to 
several ounces per day and supplement with daily enemasVicious viruses 
need to be attacked aggressively! Don't skimp on the CS! I certainly hope that 
you have your own generator to keep the cost down to only a few dollars.:  
Robert Bartell.

- Original Message - 
From: Mary mo...@inow.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 5:36 PM
Subject: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism


 Dear List,
 
 My son has this bowel problem from the vax. No matter what I do, he has this
 inflammation of the colon (autistic enterocolitis) Does anyone have any
 suggestions? I have him on a paleo diet and he has improved but there is
 this artificial measles virus (from the MMR)  in the colon that invades the
 mucosal tissues. All suggestions appreciated. Thank you, Mary
 _
 
 'Triple Jab Autism (MMR) Could Be Next BSE'
.


Re: CSUngray Hair

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Has anybody else heard that grey hair results from a copper deficiency in
older people?  Robert Bartell

- Original Message -
From: Black dbl...@cfl.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 5:57 PM
Subject: CSUngray Hair



 Marsha, great idea and what a novel way to use CS!
 Is this something one should do everyday, and if so, for how long?
 Knowing the effectiveness of CS it should'nt take long to kill the
bloomin
 bugs.
 Will be forever grateful to you if my ol gray hair starts to grow back.

 For Health and Beauty For Life,
 Nancy


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Re: CS PPM

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Hey Willie,
Do you recollect just when it was that your friend started turning blue?
You'll find the basic info on this in the archieves and much more by
following along on a daily basis with the postings to this list. Personally,
I have some doubts about your friend taking a mega-dose of this proportion!
Regards, : Robert Bartell

- Original Message -
From: Willie L. Forbes r...@zwallet.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 2:36 AM
Subject: CS PPM


 I have heard that the higher the ppm is the better the CS quality. I have
an associate who claims he is using 500 ppm which is suppose to be much
better for you therapeuticly. He claims that the 5ppm is not enough to have
any value health wise, and that you would have to consume much much more to
have any real effect.
 I don't know this is all new to me. Can someone help?

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CSRepercussions of Socialized Medicine

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Ran across the following and am passing it on for whatever its worth to you.  
It continues to astound me that so many of our politicians still favor the 
socialization of our medical system. Asses! :

* Irish doctors regret going into medicine
 
Almost a third of all doctors in Ireland said they would reject
medicine as a career if they were back at school, according to a
survey by the Irish Medical Organisation.Among femal doctors the
numbers were as high as 36%, compared to 29% among male respondents.
Some 42% of the country's junior doctors said they regreted going into
medicine, compared to a quarter of GPs and consultants. Increasing
workload and fear of litigation were cited as two major concerns in
the profession.
 
Source:www.bmj.co.uk
 
Regards, : Robert Bartell


CSPolitical Humor

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Political humor is widespread and pops up on multiple sites.  Tomorrow it will 
be all over for a while. I apologize to Mike and others for introducing it 
here. The following example from another site best expresses my sentiments. 
Regards:  Robert Bartell.

 Not all fairy tales start with,
 'Once upon a time',
 some start with 'If I am elected'.

-Various

*

NOTICE:  Tuesday November 7th is the voting day for all parties in the
United States.  In some cases one could vote earlier than that but no one
will be scheduled to vote on Wednesday November 8th.  I have had several
irate writers who thought I was deliberately trying to get the Democrats
not to vote on Tuesday from the tftd for November 2nd.  I assumed that
besides the obvious fact that election day is on the 7th the clues that
two friends who are Democrats (emphasizing the last four letters) had the
text reversed would both be flags that this was a fun piece.  tftd regrets
any angst that this has caused.

from:  tft...@tamu.ed  (Thought For The Day List)


Re: CSRe: Diabetes

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Very good Gaston,
Appreciated that!  Would also offer the consideration that those Mexicans
living in the US consume more dairy products that contain increased levels
of the IGF-1 hormone, thanks to Monsanto Chemical. Regards:  Robert Bartell

- Original Message -
From: Gaston obouc...@colba.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 1998 4:13 PM
Subject: CSRe: Diabetes


 For people interested on this subject only. Pls read the highlighted
 paragraph
 referring to carbohydrates...

 The attached text was obtained from the following address:

 http://www.thirdage.com/news/ap/hlth/20001105.3a05d687.5542.3.html?std

 Gaston





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Re: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism

2000-11-06 Thread Janet Lubart
Dear Marshall,
Can you please explain eddy current as well as how well it could work.
Thank you,
Janet
-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism


I am not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean the mechanism, or how 
well would it work? 
The mechanism would be the same I believe as how it works with the lymph 
nodes.  The sharp change in magnetic field causes an eddy current to be 
generated in the tissue which kills the pathogens. 

Marshall 

Janet Lubart wrote: 

 Dear Marshall,How would the mag-pulser work in the 
abdomen?Sincerely,Janet 
-Original Message- 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 7:50 AM 
Subject: Re: CS'Triple Jab(MMR) Autism 
 Have you tried olive leaf extract?  Also you might try magnetic 
pulsing the abdomin. 
Marshall 

Mary wrote: 

Dear List, 
My son has this bowel problem from the vax. No matter what I 
do, he has this 
inflammation of the colon (autistic enterocolitis) Does anyone 
have any 
suggestions? I have him on a paleo diet and he has improved but 
there is 
this artificial measles virus (from the MMR)  in the colon that 
invades the 
mucosal tissues. All suggestions appreciated. Thank you, Mary 

_ 

'Triple Jab Autism (MMR) Could Be Next BSE' 

[By Sarah-Kate Templeton Health Editor in the Sunday Herald, 
UK.] 

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/newsi.hts?section=Newsamp;story_id=12363 

  The consultant who first suggested that the MMR vaccine 
causes autism 
has warned MSPs that government failure to face up to the 
danger will lead 
to a catastrophe on the scale of the BSE crisis (Mad Cow 
Disease). 
  Dr Andrew Wakefield told a Scottish parliament 
cross-party group on 
autism, launched in Edinburgh last week, that the UK faces an 
epidemic of 
the lifelong disorder. He renewed his call for single vaccines 
to be used to 
immunise against measles, mumps and rubella. 
  On a two-day visit to Scotland, Wakefield - a consultant 
gastroenterologist at the Royal Free Hospital in London - hit 
out at Sir 
Kenneth Calman, the chief medical officer in 1998. 
  In the official report into the BSE crisis, Calman was 
blamed for 
saying that beef was safe. Wakefield said Calman had taken the 
same approach 
to the MMR scare. 
  Calman had warned that a wave of lethal epidemics could 
sweep Britain 
if parents went on refusing combined vaccines. The former chief 
medical 
officer had said there was no need, on the basis of evidence 
presented by 
Wakefield, to change vaccination policy. 
  Wakefield said: These same people have been seen as 
victims of their 
own handling of BSE, and that is where we are heading with the 
MMR. 
  It is going to take a strong body of people that are not 
prepared to 
be pushed around to prevent a similar situation. 
  I feel strongly that, if this is something we have 
contributed to by 
our own failure to act, then we have a moral obligation to look 
after these 
children for all time. 
He dismissed claims that the rising incidence of autism is a 
result of a 
change in diagnostic criteria and insisted we are now seeing an 
epidemic . 
  At a Glasgow conference on the causes of autism, the 
consultant 
explained how numerous families approached him, all with the 
same story to 
tell. Their children all had autism and bowel problems and they 
believed 
that the two were linked and that they had started as a direct 
consequence 
of the MMR vaccine. They said that, until vaccination, their 
children had 
been developing normally. 
  Wakefield said: At first we were sceptical but the story 
was so 
consistent that we felt we had to investigate. 
  Of the 160 autistic children we looked at, only five did 
not have 
bowel disease. The parents were right. The medical profession 
was wrong. 
  The expert 

CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Hi ole Bob,

Over the week-end and today, I have acquired all the PVC pipe and fittings that 
you specified and purchased a brand new Actown transformer, 120 volts primary 
in and 12,000 volts at 30 mA out - secondary mid point grounded. I think we now 
have enough to proceed with construction while I go shopping for the CO2 tank, 
flow meter and valves.  Sounds like Vince and a couple of others are looking 
over our shoulders as we get this unit up and operating, so we'll keep it on 
the list instead of going off-line if that's ok with you.  Ready for Phase 
II.  What do we do next?
Regards:  Robert Bartell


Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Hey Vince, 
Looks like Ole Bob's model, which I hope to duplicate, sinters off much finer 
particles from the anode by arcing HV through co2 gas. The particles also carry 
a stronger electrical charge.(Longer shelf life)  He describes his unit as HVAC 
ARC CO2.  The PVC pipe and fittings are for construction of a dry ice cannister 
that will feed CO2  into the top of the DW jar. The CO2 tank (same as they use 
for soft drinks) will replace the dry ice CO2 unit for more serious control 
over the CO2 with pressure valves and a flow meter. In case you missed it, here 
is what Ole Bob said in a previous post.

The CS that I make with the HVAC ARC method does not settle out.  I think the
only one that makes it for sale to clinics is Dr. Bill Biagioli. He told me
that he has gotten out of the retail business.

Check the CS with a laser pointer if the T.E. can be seen in normal room
lighting then it is not very good. The HVAC ARC has almost no T.E. when
viewed in a dark room.

The Transmission electron microscope pictures of my HVAC ARC CO2 is in the
1-2 nm and the 6-8 nm range.

Ole Bob 

Hang in here and read the posts daily.  You'll get the same instructions I get 
from Ole Bob and we'll all confer as we go along.  Should be interesting!







  - Original Message - 
  From: V. Richter 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 7:05 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction


  Flow meter, valves, CO2 tank?  sounds like a great mixing mechanism.  I 
hadn't planned on mixing, but it may be a good idea.  Is that the purpose?

  Thanks,

  Vince
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Bartell 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 5:40 AM
Subject: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction


Hi ole Bob,

Over the week-end and today, I have acquired all the PVC pipe and fittings 
that you specified and purchased a brand new Actown transformer, 120 volts 
primary in and 12,000 volts at 30 mA out - secondary mid point grounded. I 
think we now have enough to proceed with construction while I go shopping for 
the CO2 tank, flow meter and valves.  Sounds like Vince and a couple of others 
are looking over our shoulders as we get this unit up and operating, so we'll 
keep it on the list instead of going off-line if that's ok with you.  Ready 
for Phase II.  What do we do next?
Regards:  Robert Bartell


Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Hi Bob,
I understand, I think? Anyhow I'll get the spark plug on Wednesday. Tomorrow
I'll be working from 5:30 AM till 9:30 PM as an election official.
Things are coming together -- there's ozone in the air~!
Regards, : Robert Bartell

- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction


 Hi Robert.

 With the PVC piping for the dry ice method you will not need the CO2
 tanks, etc.

 I will make the jar cover so that we can do both.

 One other item, now this may sound strange but go to an auto parts store
 and get a Bosch platinum spark plug. That will be the center electrode.

 Do you have DMM with AC current scales?

 Tomorrow I will send you the dimension for cutting and gluing the
 plastic Dry ice holder.

 The change in viscosity is a VERY interesting phenomenon.

 Ole Bob:



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Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bartell
Hi again Bob,
I have an old VOM and also a DMM, but I'm not sure about the current
scales bit.  Will have to dig out the original instruction book to find
out. (It's been a while) Regards, Robert Bartell

- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSHVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction


 Hi Robert.

 With the PVC piping for the dry ice method you will not need the CO2
 tanks, etc.

 I will make the jar cover so that we can do both.

 One other item, now this may sound strange but go to an auto parts store
 and get a Bosch platinum spark plug. That will be the center electrode.

 Do you have DMM with AC current scales?

 Tomorrow I will send you the dimension for cutting and gluing the
 plastic Dry ice holder.

 The change in viscosity is a VERY interesting phenomenon.

 Ole Bob:



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