CSFw: You gotta love Robin Williams!
- Original Message - Subject: Fw: You gotta love Robin Williams! Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:25:02 -0500 You gotta love Robin Williams.. . Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message. Robin William's plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!) I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan. 1.) The US will apologize to the world for our interference in their affairs, past present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic and the rest of those 'good ole boys,' We will never interfere again. 2.) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in the fence. 3.) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. France would welcome them. 4.) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers. 5.) No foreign students over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a D and it's back home baby. 6.) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while. 7.) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.) 8.) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not interfere. They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything. 9.) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens. 10.) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us Ugly Americans any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH.learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan. The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?' ~~~If you agree with the above forward it to friend... If not, and I would be amazed, DELETE it ! The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Discover the best of the best at MSN Luxury Living. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHerpes and Chocolate
At 09:16 AM 19/07/04, Garnet wrote: I eat chocolate in spurts but generally eat it for snacks and use it a lot in baking. I prefer good quality like Callebaut and can buy it locally at Whole Foods as chips or blocks. Hi Garnet folks, But is that real chocolate? ( Real chocolate is exceedingly bitter and *ridiculously* expensive) 99.99% of all chocolate sold is compound and that doesn't only mean sugar added - they do some really disgusting things to keep it saleable. I have tried out carob and REAL chocolate on a chef du confection and fooled him. But, once you add sugar there is a distinct difference when made up. ( It was him who told me what they do to chocolate to make it chocolate) SWMBO makes a confection that knocks all our visitors out: Of course its ridiculously expensive like most real food, (sigh) A rough blend of nuts - cashews, pecans, brazil, walnut(sweet) and Tahini and raw honey, rolled in dessicated coconut and either served as Snowballs or rolled in Carob and called Swissballs. Coffee hint: I make a slow-brewed pot of ECCO fake coffee, very strong - 2 heaped teaspoons per person and 4 for the pot. NEVER let the water boil. Served with real full-cream milk , I've created many converts - as I don't tell them what it is till later and after the compliments! :-) Cheers! Himagain - suddenly feeling very peckish. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMozilla
At 01:16 PM 19/07/04, you wrote: Is mozilla another version of Netscape? Ahhh, sorta! :-) Netscape arose out of the original Mosaic Browser development, Open Source-free, which became Netscape as a commercial intention when the geeks realised that THIS - the graphic user simple interface - was what the world was waiting for. It made all o'this possible. ( Waving arms around in cyberspace). After a lot of excitement in its short career, Netscape finished up being slaughtered by Microsoft marketing mafia muscle and their FREE Browser. Netscape has no real development going on any more and lots of the old gang have put their effort in PERSONALLY to create Mozilla - rising from the ashes of Netscape and there you have it. Both are free products and anything is better than Internet Explorer - anything. Mozilla keeps gaining strength almost daily as it has been estimated that there are nearly 10,000 professional programmers donating time to it. It even has spinoffs already ( thus diluting its strength - the fate of all non-strongman-at-the-helm businesses) a standalone Browser called currently Firefox and Thunderbird a standalone Mail programme. Cheers, Himagain - non-geek observer of the cyberbog. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmold
At 01:55 PM 19/07/04, Jean wrote: Do you mean to say you can extend the life of lettuce?! I can't wait to try this one. I've tried everything from using a carbon steel knife to breaking it by hand, to no avail. Yes Jean! AND don't forget to let us know your results here, too. The FastFood industry found out that simply by not letting staff touch food with their either grubby or chemicalised hands, food shelf life extends dramatically.Hence all the throwaway plastic gloves these days. Remember when people washed their hands when handling food? Not just to and from the toilet? BTW: Ever noticed that these days people wash their hands only AFTER using the toilet? My mother taught us that everything outside was dirty and to always wash our hands the moment we came home. AND to be very careful to wash thoroughly before we touched our private parts with those contaminated hands. But, of course, that was in the old days before we ran out of time to do those sort of things... Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: mold
At 03:17 PM 19/07/04, Paul wrote: I am wondering if the CS really helps. Any ideas very welcome. I thought I had beaten this and am feeling a bit demoralised. Hi Paul and folks, Yes. It sure helps. But you sound like a classic case of re-infection/immune system collapse. As everyone is getting tired of hearing me repeat the same tune over and over again, when people have chronic anything, have a look here: http://fablor.com/soapbox/ under the post called PSORIASIS You ought to see what happens when someone who beats Cancer gets too cocky and slackens and it grabs them again in a couple of years. THAT's scary! That machine that you inhabit was a fantastic design with a lot of failsafe mechanisms built-in, but the assaults on it in the world of today. Anyone over 25 in the world today is wearing down fast. It takes a lifetime commitment to get up to and stay at real life level. Do go and read the PSORIASIS post. Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: mold
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m71955.html Re: CSre: mold From: Paul Holloway Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:21:04 I'm just suffering a relapse of mold - aspergillus - in my sinuses. I was getting sinusitis, and getting other unpleasant symptoms, so I did a sinus flooding with CS and washed out lots of fungal hyphae. Does anyone know for sure that CS will kill mold, especially aspergillus? I'm assuming that I have previously killed any growing mold, but that there are spores that are more difficult to kill. I have started using pao d'arco as well as CS and DMSO as a nasal rinse, but I am wondering if the CS really helps. Any ideas very welcome. I thought I had beaten this and am feeling a bit demoralised. Paul H Hi Paul, My deepest sympathies. I am also a mold sufferer, and I'm sorry I have no good news. If your immune system has started reacting to mold spores, it is too late. The damage is already done. If your environment is producing enough spores that they are growing in your sinuses, you should move immediately. This is a very heavy concentration, and it might not be possible to remedy the problem. Here is a section that might help explain what you are up against: Mold: The Whole Picture, Part 4: Effect of Mold on Schools, Homes, Human Beings by Ellen McCrady When Pasteur demonstrated in the late 1800s that bacteria caused disease, it took a long while for the public to get a clear idea of what bacteria were and how they did what they did. In the 1930s, many people thought you could catch conjunctivitis by looking at someone who had an infected eye, and even today most people do not know the best way to avoid infections in general. Still, most people agree on the basics: You catch an infection from other people, because a germ invades your body through broken skin, the digestive system, or lungs. If it makes you very sick, you go to a doctor, who will diagnose you and maybe take a blood sample to confirm his diagnosis. Then he will treat you with drugs or a shot of antibiotics and other therapeutic measures. He may have to operate. You go to bed, and if you do not die, you will get well, though you may carry scars (smallpox) or be otherwise disabled (polio). When people are made sick by mold, it's a whole new ball game. You do not catch mold spores from other people the way you do germs. You catch them from buildings, or the materials you work with. The longer or more intense your exposure, the sicker you get. What makes you sick is usually not the organisms themselves, but the airborne toxins and allergens they produce. You may become so sick that you have to go to bed, but your doctor will probably not know how to diagnose you and you may look healthy to your friends. Even if you do get diagnosed, your medical insurance will probably not cover your treatment expenses. If you lose your job and your health, and sue the landlord to get the money for medical expenses and loss of income, chances are very small that you will win in court, because it is virtually impossible to prove to a jury that your health was damaged because of mold in the building. Juries need the equivalent of a smoking gun, and so far, there is no foolproof way to connect a moldy building with a sick person. Even after you think you have recovered, you have not gained immunity, as you do after you have had chickenpox or measles; in fact, you may be more vulnerable to future exposures than you were to start with, just as you would be after exposure to other common toxins, such as lead. http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byorg/abbey/an/an23/an23-7/an23-702.html I found CS helped remove a huge load of mold from my lungs when I first started taking it, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the symptoms. The only thing that seems to help is to move to an environment that has a minimal amount of spores. As the article explains, each new exposure diminishes your health, perhaps permanently. Like you, I also thought I had beaten it many times, only to discover the symptoms hitting just as hard for no apparent reason. In each case, I eventually found a spot where the mold was growing. My latest illness was caused by a small patch of water under the drying tray for the dishes. And this evening I found a spot in the closet where the cold water line condenses moisture and drips it on the carpet. The entire area is soaked and producing spores like crazy. I'll have to pull the entire carpet and throw it away. If you would like, we could take this offline and I could go through all the things I've learned about mold.
Re: CSBaking soda
Re: CSBaking soda From: Ode Coyote Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:24:07 I did a little experiment to see if using baking soda did or didn't react with silver ions. 16 oz batch run at 1 millimap on 12 exposed 12 guage electrodes, input at 12 volts [because I was playing with 12 volts that day] Water at was .5 uS adjusted to 12.4 uS using the smallest amount of baking soda I could get onto the tip of a damp toothpick. [WOW!] I ran the batch for a total of 2hrs and 41 minutes to 35.2 uS Subtracting to get the difference = 22.8 uS Hi Ken, Very Interesting! The Faraday calculations predict an increase of 22.826 ppm, almost identical to your uS value. This seems to validate the conversion factor of 1 microsiemen = 1 ppm, and extends the range to 35 ppm. So we now have data from 3 ppm to 35 ppm that shows the same conversion factor. See the following for reference: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63151.html Electrodes ran cleaner than usual CS was crystal clear. Had a strong flavor. PH at 9.7 [I have no idea if my little PH meter is accurate] Probably not - distilled water is difficult to measure and needs a different kind of probe. Initial conclusion...Hummm, not bad at all! BUT About an hour later the batch had turned very milky looking and the conductivity went up to 48 uS. Hmm - I wonder if this affected the uS readings during the brew? Ordinarily I'd have been pleased with a large number of pure silver particles suspended in there, but I was suspicious. Something wasn't quite right. I started searching out the properties of silver carbonate. Apparently it's used in ceramics glazing and is a grey powder that darkens with light exposure. It is not soluable in water. Then I discovered that adding vineger would make silver acetate which IS soluable in water. I wish we could get the chemical equations to show these reactions! I poured out two equal amounts of the batch into 2 clean glass jiggers, diluted one with distilled water and the other with pure white vinegar. I sat all three containers on a windowsill...not in direct sunlight. Original container developed a gray deposit on the bottom as the milkyness gradually reduced to almost clear. The very strong TE dimimished considerably. Jiggerful diluted with water did the same. Jigger diluted with vinegar went crystal clear with almost no TE and no deposits. Conclusion: I had made silver carbonate. Again, it would be nice to have balanced eqations to work with. Looking further, I found that [insoluable/ light sensitive] silver carbonate makes silver ions upon exposure to hydrochloric acid. Back to square one if you drink it down. The silver in [soluable/ light insensitive] silver acetate is released as pure metallic particles when in the presence of iron. Hummm [silver plated red blood corpuscles? Use an iron electrode?..might get a very shiny nail.] I ran another batch using one drop of vinegar. Looked pretty good but I got busy on something else and lost it somewhere and didn't take notes. The baking soda batch samples still look the same on the window sill after a week or 2. Ode Very nice, Ken. Here's the Faraday calcs: Cou = I * sec ; total number of Coulombs gm = k * I * sec ; Faraday's equation k= 107.868 / 96485 ; Coulombs required per gram of silver lt = 3.785 * gal ; convert gallons to litres lt = ml / 1000 ; convert millilitres to litres mg = gm * 1000 ; convert grams to milligrams ml = 29.57 * oz ; convert ounce to milliliters phr = ppm / hrs ; ppm per hour ppm = mg / lt ; 1 ppm is 1 milligram per litre sec = hrs * 3600 + mnt * 60 ; convert hours to seconds hrs = 2 I= 1e-3 ; current mnt = 41 ; minutes oz = 16 ; volume of dw Solution: Cou = 9.6600 I= 0.0010 sec = 9660.0 gm = 0.0107 lt = 0.4731 gal = 0.1249 ml = 473.12 mg = 10.799 oz = 16.000 phr = 11.413 ppm = 22.826 hrs = 2. mnt = 41.000 Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFiltering CS
I don't think that stuff really matters. The best way to remove it is to let it settle and decant. Ode At 09:48 AM 7/18/2004 -0700, you wrote: I would like to clarify an issue I read about here before I got a CS generator, but can't recall the consensus. Now that I'm making my own CS (Silvergen SG6), if I get above about halfway on the setting (roughly 5 ppm), I get gray particulates floating in the otherwise clear liquid (sometimes I even get a few at 5 ppm). Should I filter these out (via a coffee filter or some other type of filter), or is it okay to leave these in the CS and consume them? Thanks, Terry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com>http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhat CS information is the truth?
Maybe I should have said 'tests sponsored by the Royal Society' in a state of the art lab that does that sort of thing as a specialty without implying that it was done 'by' the Royal Society. The procedure was well documented on film both times done by the same researchers. The first test was a simple dilution and sample test.The failed second test was a standard triple blind setup with uninvolved randomly chosen people doing the labeling. Both dilutions were done by the same homeopathic remedy manufacturer who had every reason to see success and probably weren't told what the samples were to be used for either time. Granted that the second testing was triggered by a million dollar bet from that famous skeptic [forget his name..Randy? More of an anti believer than a true skepic. I've seen some of his works that don't prove a thing except that something 'can be ' faked and that info used like in the UFO field to say that because 'this' photo is a fake..all photos are fake. But he didn't do this one.] His mere presence, involvement and negative energies may have screwed it up..but if that's the case, it proves the point even better than if he had not been involved. The point being, it's not the water that works, it's the held memory in people with the water as a symbol of access and the skeptic messed with the memory of the people doing the testing who had an intrusive idea of negative intent. In other words, if there is a structure to the water, it is placed there by intent [perhaps with the diluted substance being used to focus and pattern the intent] and it can be messed up with intent. This does nothing at all to the belief [justified or not] that homeopathy works as well as it does. But it does indicate that the power of ritual goes well beyond the ritual itself...maybe even to the point that popping a pill and shaking a rattle are the same motion. The making of drugs has a whole bunch of intent behind it..as does buying and using them. Yet, they don't work the same for all people. In the case of silver, silver has millennia stacked on millennia of mystery and symbolism behind it. In the subatomic field, no predicted particle has ever 'not' been found and any given electron is where you look for it, every time, adding credence to the idea that reality itself is something 'held in mind'. Mind you, the brain is just another body part. Is it 'the' mind seeing a reality or is it held 'in' mind being seen 'as' a reality by itself? All 'strangeness' added together supports the second idea better than the first idea with far fewer conflicts, even the one that states that the second idea may 'proveably appear' to be not true. Which, of course, brings the whole idea of proof into question. If the only tools you are using to prove or disprove an illusion belong to the illusion, what then? The only conclusion I can draw is Damn!, we're good at this! Ode At 01:05 PM 7/19/2004 +1000, you wrote: At 05:57 AM 19/07/04, you wrote: In the case of Homeopathic medicine as tested twice by the Royal Society who at first validated the field, then rejected it, it turned out that the ...snip... not know what they were diluting and it was set up so that no one knew until afterwards, what was what. It didn't work any better than chance. Actually I would be VERY suspicious of any test carried out by the fox on the security of the chicken coop. Know who the Royal Society is? Kilneth once remarked that they singlehandedly held back scientific progress in the Western World right up to the invention of the Offset Printing Press ( They said it wouldn't work either - the samples were a fake.) What we all need to remember is that the SOURCE is the critical point in evaluating any information. What is their stake in what sort of outcome. Of course, if we all start doing that, paranoia will be an endemic epidemic .. Cheers, Him-who-often- envies -the - Ostriches -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: mold
It's doubtful that CS will kill spores. Even hard radiation and space doesn't kill all of them. Ode At 06:17 AM 7/19/2004 +0100, you wrote: I'm just suffering a relapse of mold - aspergillus - in my sinuses. I was getting sinusitis, and getting other unpleasant symptoms, so I did a sinus flooding with CS and washed out lots of fungal hyphae. Does anyone know for sure that CS will kill mold, especially aspergillus? I'm assuming that I have previously killed any growing mold, but that there are spores that are more difficult to kill. I have started using pao d'arco as well as CS and DMSO as a nasal rinse, but I am wondering if the CS really helps. Any ideas very welcome. I thought I had beaten this and am feeling a bit demoralised. Paul H - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:05 AM Subject: Re: CSre: mold Yes you are right CS should prevent the mold. Providing you use enough and contact all growing surfaces. Easier to accomplish with liquids than solids. But lots of people do it for veggie storage, since you just need to hit the surface, but for solid left overs from a meal say, it might be a bit trickier. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAloe and CS
Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening Marshall, Mine is that CS mixed with aloe vera is 10 times as effective as either alone. How do you prepare the Aloe? Nothing too high tech and complicated I trust. Mix 50-50 and use immediately. If I want to keep some, I mix in just enough baking soda to bring up to a ph of 7. I would expect that you grow the Aloe. No, I just use store bought. Marshall Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Mike Monet
Mike! Glad to see you back. How are you doing? Did you move from that mold infested apartment? Are you feeling better? I missed your comments on this list. Welcome back! David Bearrow At 03:02 AM 7/19/04, you wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m71955.html Re: CSre: mold From: Paul Holloway Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:21:04 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhat CS information is the truth?
Yep, proved it myself with my scanning photospectrometer. Simply sending thoughts to distilled water would change it's absorption spectrum in the UV range in a consistant manner according to the though forms. Biggest chagnes though were to use reichi type of energy on the water when I was testing that. I managed to totally mess up the vials the water was in doing that, and had to have a reichi master come in to fix them. Hach said it would be over $100 to replace them. Marshall Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Dr. Tiller of Stanford has a new book out this year about consciousness and conditioned spaces; it purports to prove the reality of thought influence on space. On researcher has tried to replicate the results and claims failure. But at a glance, Tiller's laboratory and controls appear to be first-rate. . . . looking forward to reading the book soon. JBB On Saturday, Jul 17, 2004, at 00:11 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: It is all based on INTENT. Without intent, homeopathic methods cannot work. After all, anytime you mix anything with water, or even add water to a glass that is very slightly dirty, it should be creating a homeopathic remedy. By the time you get any water it should be full of millions of homeopathic remedies from all the dilutions and encounters it met. I believe that one does not have to go through the steps to create a homeopathic remedy, it can be done with intent only. This is done with Holy water, created with intent only. However the concious mind tends to not accept that simply directing thoughts at anything can change it, and requires some type of physical action that it can at least accept as the mechanism. This is encountered in dowsing quite often. The rods are a physical extension of the intent. The moving of a vein of water requires hitting a stake driven into the ground, although physically it does nothing. Without this crutch, the concious cannot accept that the action can take place, and the subconcious will not preform it's magic without belief (or faith). Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: In the case of Homeopathic medicine as tested twice by the Royal Society who at first validated the field, then rejected it, it turned out that the water did not hold a memory. It only worked when the people who 'made' the water held the memory. [The field wasn't rejected, only the mechanizm.] In the second round of testing, the people who were diluting the water did not know what they were diluting and it was set up so that no one knew until afterwards, what was what. It didn't work any better than chance. Since it did work better than pure placebo on the first round, it stands to reason that somehow the memory held by the makers of the water was symbolized by the water which was accessed to tune into that memory...possibly similar to the way prayers are accessed by blessed water which also works better than placebo. There is evidence coming to light that memory itself is held as a non local hologram accessed by the brain...tuned into rather than wholly stored there. [Short term memory might be seen as a sort of RAM located in the brain as processing it into meaning is ongoing, where long term memory might be seen as a non local ROM stored as static data with no meanings attached. If that's the case, many many other mysteries..such as instinct.. become clear. If the brain is damaged or otherwise warped in function..access denied, or data in/garbage out.] DNA might be sufficient to explain the formation of the computers circuits but falls short of explaining the patterns of electrical activity IN those circuits. Then there's the aura or a field of sorts that surrounds and permeates all things. Does the form construct the aura or does the aura give space/time locality to the componants of the form? How does a cell know 'where to be what' if it's the very first one dividing into many, each with identical DNA? Why doesn't a concrete block, a seething mass of atomic activity, just fall apart? [a 'matter' of 'concrete thought', localized into space/time? Well, something that everyone agrees upon carries a sort of 'apparent' stability whether it's really true or not.] It seems to me that the human form, the planet and the universe it's in..all forms in space and time..are a result of consciousness, not the cause of it and that seeming divisions between forms is a definition caused by purposeful perceptive limitations, more like a droplet defining its own size and shape within the ocean and the ocean not caring what the droplet thinks about anything, rather than the ocean saying 'There be a droplet that's not me, somewhere that I am not'. [Oh!, says God, I've fallen apart! Please o' pieces, make me whole! Result? religion...and endless arguement
CSMozilla
Hi John, You're right. I had to set up one master account first each time and then I added two more. The program is buggy. At least as far as importing and then being able to shut it down without losing everything one has done. It may work OK if I didn't import the other files but I have years of them I don't want to lose since I sometimes search for an old message. Oh wellI triedtwice. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: john rigby jrig...@fablor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: [trem] Re: CSMozilla At 05:37 AM 19/07/04, Trem wrote: Can't tell you how bummed out I am over Mozilla. Went through all the hoops of setting up my mail accounts and passwords, etc. Took a lot of time to get it all tested and to make sure it was operating OK. Then used Import to bring all my mailboxes over from outlook Express and it all seemed to work OK. Greatsaid I. Hi Trem, not having used Outlook Express since my early training in what you could do to it, years ago, I haven't had that problem - just trashed a carefully built-up scenario when I didn't read the destructions about deleting an earlier version of Moz first! At least it taught me how much rubbish I had accumulated and could well do without! :-) Did you query the support group on it? I do seem to recall you have to/had to setup one master account first?? Cheers, Him - not game to use anything else but Moz and Eudora. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Steve, You're correct about the surface particles. They are probably only one atom thick and are floating because of surface tension. When I see them I'm reminded of an oil sheen. One drop of oil can cover a large surface and make one think it's more than it really is. I have found that if one just pours off (decants) into another container the surface floaters just disappear. Anyway there's nothing to worry about since it's all silver and not a contaminant and the quantity is so infinitesimal it's not worth bothering with. The worst filters are Whatman. It must be because of the extra chemical processing to make them low ash and ultra pure. Anyway, they really cause yellowing. My recommendation is NEVER filter. Decanting is the best method. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: SJY youngst...@konnections.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:44 PM Subject: [trem] Re: CSFiltering CS Terry, Just let the particulates settle to the bottom - you might have to first stir to break surface tension if they are floating on the surface. Then just carefully decant off the clear liquid and dump out the liquid solid stuff at the bottom. Filtering often adds more stuff then it takes out unless you have very good filter media (coffee filters seem to introduce chemicals into your brew - recommend not using them). --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Terry slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: CSFiltering CS I would like to clarify an issue I read about here before I got a CS generator, but can't recall the consensus. Now that I'm making my own CS (Silvergen SG6), if I get above about halfway on the setting (roughly 5 ppm), I get gray particulates floating in the otherwise clear liquid (sometimes I even get a few at 5 ppm). Should I filter these out (via a coffee filter or some other type of filter), or is it okay to leave these in the CS and consume them? Thanks, Terry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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At 03:24 AM 7/19/2004, you wrote: Do you mean to say you can extend the life of lettuce?! I can't wait to try this one. I've tried everything from using a carbon steel knife to breaking it by hand, to no avail. Jean Baugh There is a product called Extra Life tm which will extend the life of your lettuce and all the rest of your veggies and fruits, too, by neurtralizing ethylene gas. It is a little green disc about three inches across, which has some kind of pellets inside. You put it in your crisper drawer and everything lasts longer. It works. Each disc is good for about three months, I think. I don't know where you buy them, but Bed, Bath, and Beyond is one place that has had them. Maybe an Internet Search will help you locate them at a good price. Mine came in a three pack. Another trick is NOT to use metal at all on your iceberg lettuce. I learned this trick from the manager of a grocery store produce department. Before storing your lettuce, either hit the lettuce hard on a counter and pull out the core by hand if it comes loose enough to do so, or else use a plastic picnic knife to get it out. I don't know why a stainless steel knife would be bad, but lettuce and kefir and some other things just don't seem to respond well to contact with metal. I have tried rinsing veggies in CS before storing them, too. Have not run a controlled AB comparison test to determine the difference, but intuitively, it just seems to make sense that CS would help by killing bacteria on the surfaces. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNebulizer Question
Be very careful using an industrial air compressor. These will often generate an oil mist that must be removed before beathing in. Otherwise you could give youself chemical pneumonia. It would be best to use an Oiless compressor. Marshall William Amos wrote: Hello everyone: I tried to buy a nebulizer at a medical supply store and was told I needed a prescription. However I could buy the aerosol mask with the cup and the air supply tubing. I have a 5 to 40 pound air regulator and an air filter. I put them all together and hooked it to my air compressor. At very low pressure I am getting a vapor out of the mask. My question is, using Colloidal Siver in the unit, is the silver rising with the vapor in to the mask? Bill Amos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Been using it for nearly a year now without any virus protection and have missed out on all the virus infection that is nowdays part of microsoft. You forgot to mention that after the first purchase ($49.95) all the upgrades are free. Not like hundreds of dollars to upgrade to XP. Dave twllLL wrote: Do any of you use LINDOWS operating system ? Its suppose to be more stable than windows,easy to use as windows virus free email.Its made by LINUX. Miscosoft sued them they had to change the name to LINSPIRE www.linspire.com - Original Message - From: John Rigby jrig...@fablor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:01 AM Subject: Re: CSMozilla At 01:16 PM 19/07/04, you wrote: Is mozilla another version of Netscape? Ahhh, sorta! :-) Netscape arose out of the original Mosaic Browser development, Open Source-free, which became Netscape as a commercial intention when the geeks realised that THIS - the graphic user simple interface - was what the world was waiting for. It made all o'this possible. ( Waving arms around in cyberspace). After a lot of excitement in its short career, Netscape finished up being slaughtered by Microsoft marketing mafia muscle and their FREE Browser. Netscape has no real development going on any more and lots of the old gang have put their effort in PERSONALLY to create Mozilla - rising from the ashes of Netscape and there you have it. Both are free products and anything is better than Internet Explorer - anything. Mozilla keeps gaining strength almost daily as it has been estimated that there are nearly 10,000 professional programmers donating time to it. It even has spinoffs already ( thus diluting its strength - the fate of all non-strongman-at-the-helm businesses) a standalone Browser called currently Firefox and Thunderbird a standalone Mail programme. Cheers, Himagain - non-geek observer of the cyberbog. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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When Pasteur demonstrated in the late 1800s that bacteria caused disease, it took a long while for the public to get a clear idea of what bacteria were and how they did what they did... Still, most people agree on the basics: You catch an infection from other people, because a germ invades your body through broken skin, the digestive system, or lungs... Pardon this lengthy post, but it is so relevant to our mutual search for answers to our health issues that I felt it was worth it. Of course, further discussion can be moved to the off-topic list. Louis Pasteur had it all wrong. The above description is so bogus as to be ridiculous. Read on: The Germ Theory Everyone has heard of Louis Pasteur. He is considered the father of the Germ Theory of Medicine and he invented the process of pasteurization. Despite the simple fact that the Germ Theory of Medicine was at least a hundred years older than Pasteur, his experiments that supposedly proved this theory have established him as a cornerstone in Modern Medical History. Too bad much of his work was plagiarized and totally unscientific. What most of us dont know about Pasteur is that throughout his career, he too often doubted his assumptions. On his deathbed, he even recanted saying the Germ Theory was all wrong: Its the terrain, not the germ. But did we hear his last words? No. Was he speaking of the immune system? If we have a strong immune system, the germ doesnt matter, does it? Wrong, he was not speaking of the immune system. As Dr Young points out in Sick and Tired, the immune systems function of fighting off germs is its secondary job. If youre immune system is battling off bugs, youre driving on a spare tire, according to the good doctor. The Terrain What exactly is a healthy terrain? Dr Youngs book introduced me to Antoine Béchamp. I looked him up on the web and read one of his books published there. Amazing stuff. You wont find Béchamps name in the history of medicine. He and his work have been expurgated. When he died, his accomplishments were listed in a journal. They took up seven pages. Some of the things we attribute to Pasteur were actually accomplished by Béchamp. Even though Béchamp was a scientist, his work is very easy to read. Scientists hadnt yet developed their Latin/Greek lingo that would keep the average person on the sidelines looking in. The first thing I read by him was a study on cats. One group was fed cooked foods and the other was fed raw foods. The raw foods group were much healthier than the group fed cooked foods. By the third generation, the young of the cooked foods group (also getting cooked foods) did not survive into adulthood. Is there any wonder why the Cancer Diet is 70% live foods? Now Béchamp was a critic of Pasteurs. Pasteur hated Béchamp, mainly because Béchamp was constantly finding fault in Pasteurs work. For instance, Pasteurs experiments that proved his germ theory were less than scientific, according to Béchamp . Pasteur had injected healthy animals with the blood of a sick animal. The healthy animals got sick. First off do I need to point out that we do not catch germs in this fashion? I mean, if I had to get an injection to catch a cold, Id never catch one. Secondly, there are too many variables in a syringe full of a sick animals blood to prove that the germs in the blood are making the experimental animal sick. Béchamp made the obvious observation that Pasteur was poisoning the blood of the experimental animal. Claude Bernard was also a contemporary of Pasteurs. On Pasteurs deathbed, he admitted that Bernard was right and that he, Pasteur, was wrong (though he never mentioned his nemesis Béchamp). Bernard is considered the Father of Experimental medicine today. He was a physiologist. However, his greatest achievements are entirely overlooked today. Let me give you one example of this mans assertions. Amidst a group of physicians and scientists, Claude Bernard made the statement: The terrain is everything; the germ is nothing, and then drank down a glass of water filled with cholera. There are not many scientists who are willing to risk their lives on a theory. This we know. Claude Bernard has few equals in the history of medicine. Germs Do Not Cause Disease The most telling concept that has ever crossed my desk is the quotation Dr Young uses right at the beginning of his book, Sick and Tired: If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that germs seek their natural habitatdiseased tissuerather than being the cause of the diseased tissue; e.g., mosquitoes seek the stagnant water, but do not cause the pool to become stagnant. Rudolph Virchow (Father of Pathology) Do you understand the importance of this? When I read this quotation for the first time, it hit me like a brick. Ive always known the terrain was the key, but I had always thought of the terrain as the immune system. I had had no idea that the proper terrain alone was, by itself, enough
Re: CSFiltering CS
You might use an Ice tea gallon jar to brew with and use the spigot on the side to decant off what you use. That way you don't have to worry about the contamination you can get from the coffee filters. Dave Terry wrote: I would like to clarify an issue I read about here before I got a CS generator, but can't recall the consensus. Now that I'm making my own CS (Silvergen SG6), if I get above about halfway on the setting (roughly 5 ppm), I get gray particulates floating in the otherwise clear liquid (sometimes I even get a few at 5 ppm). Should I filter these out (via a coffee filter or some other type of filter), or is it okay to leave these in the CS and consume them? Thanks, Terry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShomeopathy from pieces of paper
Or quite likely you are hooked on caffine. Try the decaffinated cokes and see if they satisfy your craving. If not, then it is the caffine. Marshall oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote: Hi Garnet, If homeopathy is true then this explains the absolute craving I have for Coca Cola. The atoms of cocaine are still there after they express cocaine for the 'taste'? It suddenly dawned on me that this must be the answer and the reason I can't quit cokes since I have a lot of determination! Jean Baugh * Without going into great detail, they present information about how the body, cells and water can encode information from merely an electromagnetic signal. Water is also stated to be a much more complex substance than one would think and that physics research is still on going on its many permutations of structure. It is not just a bunch of molecules of H2O randomly interacting with each other. The studies that they present in this area are very informative. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGatorade transport
I went to http://www.gssiweb.com/ but couldn't find the info. Could you be more specific? Leo -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSmold gold
Robert Koch discovered that colloidal gold was an effective treatment for syphilis, tuberculosis and some other infections. But it may be prudent to point out a problem relating mold and CG mentioned by Herbert Freundlich in his Colloid And Capillary Chemistry (3rd ed., 1922, pp 50-507.) The phenomenon is often described, both in the case Zsigmondy and Bredig gold sols, of mould forming colonies in them, upon the mycelium of which the gold collects. That this happens with the Bredig sols, which from the start contain no organic compounds, appears curious. If it should prove correct that such colonies of mould appear more easily in a gold sol than in an aqueous solution of the same composition but containing no gold, one might perhaps explain this according to Nathonsohn as follows. Moulds need for their life processes small amounts of organic matter which are obtained from the air. These collect to some extent in the gold sol since they are continually adsorbed by the gold particles, whereby a stronger diffussion gradient of the substances in question is brought about... Freundlich also mentions that aspergillus oryzae interacts strongly with dilute solutions of gold chloride, reducing it to gold (ibid.) Matthew
CSTransNeb Portable Nebulizer Compressor
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Re: CSMozilla
Do what I do, keep the old browser with it's files on the system, and if I ever need to go back to an old message, I simply bring up the old browser. Marshall Trem wrote: Hi John, You're right. I had to set up one master account first each time and then I added two more. The program is buggy. At least as far as importing and then being able to shut it down without losing everything one has done. It may work OK if I didn't import the other files but I have years of them I don't want to lose since I sometimes search for an old message. Oh wellI triedtwice. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: john rigby jrig...@fablor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: [trem] Re: CSMozilla At 05:37 AM 19/07/04, Trem wrote: Can't tell you how bummed out I am over Mozilla. Went through all the hoops of setting up my mail accounts and passwords, etc. Took a lot of time to get it all tested and to make sure it was operating OK. Then used Import to bring all my mailboxes over from outlook Express and it all seemed to work OK. Greatsaid I. Hi Trem, not having used Outlook Express since my early training in what you could do to it, years ago, I haven't had that problem - just trashed a carefully built-up scenario when I didn't read the destructions about deleting an earlier version of Moz first! At least it taught me how much rubbish I had accumulated and could well do without! :-) Did you query the support group on it? I do seem to recall you have to/had to setup one master account first?? Cheers, Him - not game to use anything else but Moz and Eudora. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFiltering CS
What about unbleached coffee filters (brown) I have been using them for years. Bob -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Trem Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFiltering CS Hi Steve, You're correct about the surface particles. They are probably only one atom thick and are floating because of surface tension. When I see them I'm reminded of an oil sheen. One drop of oil can cover a large surface and make one think it's more than it really is. I have found that if one just pours off (decants) into another container the surface floaters just disappear. Anyway there's nothing to worry about since it's all silver and not a contaminant and the quantity is so infinitesimal it's not worth bothering with. The worst filters are Whatman. It must be because of the extra chemical processing to make them low ash and ultra pure. Anyway, they really cause yellowing. My recommendation is NEVER filter. Decanting is the best method. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: SJY youngst...@konnections.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:44 PM Subject: [trem] Re: CSFiltering CS Terry, Just let the particulates settle to the bottom - you might have to first stir to break surface tension if they are floating on the surface. Then just carefully decant off the clear liquid and dump out the liquid solid stuff at the bottom. Filtering often adds more stuff then it takes out unless you have very good filter media (coffee filters seem to introduce chemicals into your brew - recommend not using them). --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Terry slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: CSFiltering CS I would like to clarify an issue I read about here before I got a CS generator, but can't recall the consensus. Now that I'm making my own CS (Silvergen SG6), if I get above about halfway on the setting (roughly 5 ppm), I get gray particulates floating in the otherwise clear liquid (sometimes I even get a few at 5 ppm). Should I filter these out (via a coffee filter or some other type of filter), or is it okay to leave these in the CS and consume them? Thanks, Terry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMozilla
Yes Marshall, I understand but that means I would STILL have to set up ALL the boxes I want to drop different messages into and what a pain that would be since I have about 30-40 different boxes. It would have been so nice to transfer them into Mozilla. And of course I would still keep the old program around to search for any messages I wanted to locate. Guess I'll just continue to keep my anti virus software up to date and hope no viruses get through. Outlook Express works well but is just vulnerable to the NERDS. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: [trem] Re: CSMozilla Do what I do, keep the old browser with it's files on the system, and if I ever need to go back to an old message, I simply bring up the old browser. Marshall Trem wrote: Hi John, You're right. I had to set up one master account first each time and then I added two more. The program is buggy. At least as far as importing and then being able to shut it down without losing everything one has done. It may work OK if I didn't import the other files but I have years of them I don't want to lose since I sometimes search for an old message. Oh wellI triedtwice. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: john rigby jrig...@fablor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: [trem] Re: CSMozilla At 05:37 AM 19/07/04, Trem wrote: Can't tell you how bummed out I am over Mozilla. Went through all the hoops of setting up my mail accounts and passwords, etc. Took a lot of time to get it all tested and to make sure it was operating OK. Then used Import to bring all my mailboxes over from outlook Express and it all seemed to work OK. Greatsaid I. Hi Trem, not having used Outlook Express since my early training in what you could do to it, years ago, I haven't had that problem - just trashed a carefully built-up scenario when I didn't read the destructions about deleting an earlier version of Moz first! At least it taught me how much rubbish I had accumulated and could well do without! :-) Did you query the support group on it? I do seem to recall you have to/had to setup one master account first?? Cheers, Him - not game to use anything else but Moz and Eudora. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Trem: Thanks for the information. The particles I see are not floaters, but are at (or near) the bottom. Therefore decanting should work. I gather though, that even if a few of the particles are in my decanted fluid, they're not harmful? Terry -Original Message- From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 7:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFiltering CS Hi Steve, You're correct about the surface particles. They are probably only one atom thick and are floating because of surface tension. When I see them I'm reminded of an oil sheen. One drop of oil can cover a large surface and make one think it's more than it really is. I have found that if one just pours off (decants) into another container the surface floaters just disappear. Anyway there's nothing to worry about since it's all silver and not a contaminant and the quantity is so infinitesimal it's not worth bothering with. The worst filters are Whatman. It must be because of the extra chemical processing to make them low ash and ultra pure. Anyway, they really cause yellowing. My recommendation is NEVER filter. Decanting is the best method. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: SJY youngst...@konnections.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:44 PM Subject: [trem] Re: CSFiltering CS Terry, Just let the particulates settle to the bottom - you might have to first stir to break surface tension if they are floating on the surface. Then just carefully decant off the clear liquid and dump out the liquid solid stuff at the bottom. Filtering often adds more stuff then it takes out unless you have very good filter media (coffee filters seem to introduce chemicals into your brew - recommend not using them). --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Terry slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: CSFiltering CS I would like to clarify an issue I read about here before I got a CS generator, but can't recall the consensus. Now that I'm making my own CS (Silvergen SG6), if I get above about halfway on the setting (roughly 5 ppm), I get gray particulates floating in the otherwise clear liquid (sometimes I even get a few at 5 ppm). Should I filter these out (via a coffee filter or some other type of filter), or is it okay to leave these in the CS and consume them? Thanks, Terry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004
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RE: CSFiltering CSHi Bob, Same story. They're just not as bad as regular coffee filters and lab filter papers. I still recommend NOT filtering. Why add chemicals to the mix. Trem - Original Message - From: Medwith, Robert To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:46 AM Subject: [trem] RE: CSFiltering CS What about unbleached coffee filters (brown) I have been using them for years. Bob -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Trem Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFiltering CS Hi Steve, You're correct about the surface particles. They are probably only one atom thick and are floating because of surface tension. When I see them I'm reminded of an oil sheen. One drop of oil can cover a large surface and make one think it's more than it really is. I have found that if one just pours off (decants) into another container the surface floaters just disappear. Anyway there's nothing to worry about since it's all silver and not a contaminant and the quantity is so infinitesimal it's not worth bothering with. The worst filters are Whatman. It must be because of the extra chemical processing to make them low ash and ultra pure. Anyway, they really cause yellowing. My recommendation is NEVER filter. Decanting is the best method. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: SJY youngst...@konnections.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:44 PM Subject: [trem] Re: CSFiltering CS Terry, Just let the particulates settle to the bottom - you might have to first stir to break surface tension if they are floating on the surface. Then just carefully decant off the clear liquid and dump out the liquid solid stuff at the bottom. Filtering often adds more stuff then it takes out unless you have very good filter media (coffee filters seem to introduce chemicals into your brew - recommend not using them). --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Terry slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: CSFiltering CS I would like to clarify an issue I read about here before I got a CS generator, but can't recall the consensus. Now that I'm making my own CS (Silvergen SG6), if I get above about halfway on the setting (roughly 5 ppm), I get gray particulates floating in the otherwise clear liquid (sometimes I even get a few at 5 ppm). Should I filter these out (via a coffee filter or some other type of filter), or is it okay to leave these in the CS and consume them? Thanks, Terry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I use a plastic reuseable coffee filter instead of a disposable paper coffee filter. It is more inert and less expensive in the long run. Its tiny perforations can be cleaned by back- washing with DW.
Re: CShomeopathy from pieces of paper, was Re: CSWhat CSinformation is the truth?
Interestingly I just received this today: ***Dr. Emoto WATER More Messages In Water The Spirit Of Ma´at Interviews Dr. Masaru Emoto By Reiko Myamoto Dewey 7-4-4 REIKO: We have read your book The Message from Water, and we introduced it on our website in our August issue (see ´´Conscious Water Crystals: The Power of Prayer Made Visible.´´) It has been our most popular article, with its readership increasing every week, and has raised many questions. You mentioned in your book how you would type out words on a piece of paper and paste these written words onto a bottle, and see how the water reacted to the words -- what kind of crystals were formed from the words. From your research, are you able to discern whether the reaction of the water came from the vibration of the actual words that were pasted onto the bottles, or whether the intention of the person who was pasting the words onto the bottle influenced the experiment in any way? DR. EMOTO: This is one of the more difficult areas to clarify. However, from continuing these experiments we have come to the conclusion that the water is reacting to the actual words. For example, for our trip to Europe we tried using the words ´´thank you´´ and ´´you fool´´ in German. The people on our team who took the actual photographs of the water crystals did not understand the German for ´´you fool,´´ and yet we were able to obtain exactly the same kind of results in the different crystal formations based on the words used. REIKO: Have you found that distance made any difference when people were praying over water? For example, if people in Japan were to pray over water in Russia, would this be different from people praying over water that is right in front of them? DR. EMOTO: We have only experimented once with that in the book. But from that experiment, distance did not seem to matter. The intention and prayers of the person still influenced the water. We have not yet tried further experiments from a long distance. However, my feeling is that distance would not make much of a difference. What would make a difference is the purity of intent of the person doing the praying. The higher the purity of intent, the less of a difference the distance itself would make. REIKO: Have you seen any difference between one person praying over water versus a whole group of people praying over water? DR. EMOTO: Since the water reflects the composite energy of what is being sent to it, the crystalline structure reflects the composite vibrations of the group. So one person praying reflects the energy or intention of that one person. In terms of how powerful the effect can be, if you have one person praying with a deep sense of clarity and purity, the crystalline structure will be clear and pure. And even though you may have a large group of people, if their intention as a group is not cohesive, you end up with an incohesive structure in the water. However, if everyone is united together, you will find a clear, beautiful crystal, like one created by the prayer of a single person of deep purity. In one of our experiments, we had some water on a table, and 17 participants all stood in a circle around a table holding hands. Then each of the participants spoke a beautiful word of their choice to the water. Words like unity, love, and friendship. We took before-and-after shots and were able to obtain some beautiful crystalline structures as a result of this. I have some slides that I will be showing of these crystals in my upcoming European tour. REIKO: Is the water influenced immediately, or is there a time lag? DR. EMOTO: In these cases we would freeze the water right away, so we could say that the water is changed instantaneously. REIKO: Have you ever tested other human body fluids, such as saliva, blood, urine etc? DR. EMOTO: Yes, we certainly have. However, fluids with other elements in them, like seawater, blood and urine, do not form crystals. However, we can dilute them with distilled water to something like 10 to the power of -12 or -20 or so. This dilutes the component of other elements in the fluid to the point where we can freeze the sample and obtain crystals. REIKO: Could you then see the effect that energetic healing or prayer has on a person by looking at the crystals formed by their blood or urine? DR. EMOTO: As far as experiments related to the human body are concerned, there are a lot of subtle influences that also need to be taken into consideration. So although we are looking at this, we have not publicized any information yet. However, you can look forward to hearing about our findings on this in the future REIKO: If we could imbue water with the energy of various words, for example, with the word, ´´health,´´ could we then use the water that has that vibration in it and use it to do things like grow
Re: CSre: mold
On 19 Jul 2004 at 6:17, Paul Holloway wrote: I'm just suffering a relapse of mold - aspergillus - in my sinuses. I was getting sinusitis, and getting other unpleasant symptoms, so I did a sinus flooding with CS and washed out lots of fungal hyphae. Does anyone know for sure that CS will kill mold, especially aspergillus? I'm assuming that I have previously killed any growing mold, but that there are spores that are more difficult to kill. I have started using pao d'arco as well as CS and DMSO as a nasal rinse, but I am wondering if the CS really helps. Any ideas very welcome. I thought I had beaten this and am feeling a bit demoralised. Paul H Hi Paul, I have recently been using lugols iodine diluted 4 drops per glass as a nasal irrigation. Alternating with with CS I would add a Hulda Clark type zapper to your protocol. Someone on this list recommended something like to hold the electrodes in fists and place knuckles on either side of nose, pressing the cheek bones. Can be done for long periods by leaning on elbows. I hope I got this right. It was Chuck or Dean. Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Terry, Exactly. It's silver and distilled water in the vessel. I wouldn't have any qualms about ingesting a small quantity of silver oxide or silver ?. I wouldn't drink the dregs for long periods of time but an occasional particle is not a worry to me. Decanting always leaves any dregs behind. Floaters are definitely a small amount. Just looks like more since they are so thin. I see them in almost every batch I make with the SG7 and when I drain the CS into another container through the spigot they're never seen again in the storage bottles. Trem - Original Message - From: Terry slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:04 AM Subject: [trem] RE: CSFiltering CS Trem: Thanks for the information. The particles I see are not floaters, but are at (or near) the bottom. Therefore decanting should work. I gather though, that even if a few of the particles are in my decanted fluid, they're not harmful? Terry -Original Message- From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 7:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFiltering CS Hi Steve, You're correct about the surface particles. They are probably only one atom thick and are floating because of surface tension. When I see them I'm reminded of an oil sheen. One drop of oil can cover a large surface and make one think it's more than it really is. I have found that if one just pours off (decants) into another container the surface floaters just disappear. Anyway there's nothing to worry about since it's all silver and not a contaminant and the quantity is so infinitesimal it's not worth bothering with. The worst filters are Whatman. It must be because of the extra chemical processing to make them low ash and ultra pure. Anyway, they really cause yellowing. My recommendation is NEVER filter. Decanting is the best method. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: SJY youngst...@konnections.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:44 PM Subject: [trem] Re: CSFiltering CS Terry, Just let the particulates settle to the bottom - you might have to first stir to break surface tension if they are floating on the surface. Then just carefully decant off the clear liquid and dump out the liquid solid stuff at the bottom. Filtering often adds more stuff then it takes out unless you have very good filter media (coffee filters seem to introduce chemicals into your brew - recommend not using them). --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Terry slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: CSFiltering CS I would like to clarify an issue I read about here before I got a CS generator, but can't recall the consensus. Now that I'm making my own CS (Silvergen SG6), if I get above about halfway on the setting (roughly 5 ppm), I get gray particulates floating in the otherwise clear liquid (sometimes I even get a few at 5 ppm). Should I filter these out (via a coffee filter or some other type of filter), or is it okay to leave these in the CS and consume them? Thanks, Terry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004
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Is that one with a plastic frame and metal mesh that does the actual filtering? -Original Message- From: Matthew McCann PE [mailto:mmcc...@franciscan.edu] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFiltering EIS I use a plastic reuseable coffee filter instead of a disposable paper coffee filter. It is more inert and less expensive in the long run. Its tiny perforations can be cleaned by back- washing with DW. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004
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Hello, Terry, No. I would avoid the type with any metal. I use the Perma-Brew all-plastic filter manufactured by Tops Mfg. Co. Inc. of Darien CT 06820. It has a 3-year warranty and is dioxin-free. It can also be used as a prefilter with a paper disposable postfilter between it and the funnel. This way, you can check visually to see how well it filters. It also holds the shape ot the paper postfilter, extending its lifespan. Pre-rinsing the assemblage with DW can remove some or all of the objectionable solubles in the paper postfilter. Matthew
Re: CSNathan Filyk
In a message dated 7/16/04 4:20:06 PM EST, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Mine is that CS mixed with aloe vera is 10 times as effective as either alone. Hi Marshall - this intrigued me. What do you use Aloe Vera for that CS would enhance? Also, are you talking about plain old ordinary Aloe Vera gel that one can purchase at Walmart for instance? Or are you talking about genuine Aloe Vera right from the plant? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/16/04 4:20:06 PM EST, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Mine is that CS mixed with aloe vera is 10 times as effective as either alone. Hi Marshall - this intrigued me. What do you use Aloe Vera for that CS would enhance? Also, are you talking about plain old ordinary Aloe Vera gel that one can purchase at Walmart for instance? Or are you talking about genuine Aloe Vera right from the plant? MA All my testing was done with store bought. For burns the aloe vera contains nutrients that allow the burned tissue to feed and heal while unable to receive fresh blood. Then once the blood supply is restored, it is still alive instead of dead. It also contains a number of antibiotics and antifungal compounds that reinforce the killing ability of the CS. There may be other synergies as well. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mike! Glad to see you back. How are you doing? Did you move from that mold infested apartment? Are you feeling better? I missed your comments on this list. Welcome back! David Bearrow Hi Dave, Thanks for the very nice words! Yes, I have moved several times - each time there were problems, such as spores seeping up through the floorboards. This place has floors of made of solid concrete 14 inches thick, so it might be OK. I'm in the process of replacing the kitchen countertop and repairing water damage to the sheetrock behind the sink. Fortunately the landlord is very understanding. He moans about the cost, but he is quite willing to do what is needed. A Very Nice Guy:) Getting rid of these water-soaked areas seems to have a very beneficial effect. The headaches are starting to diminish for the first time in 2 1/2 years. So with a bit of luck, I may be able to make some positive contributions to the list. Thanks for the nice welcome! Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Internet hoax (www.snopes.com). Robin Williams is the last comedian who'd say this (other than Whoopi Goldberg or George Carlin...in fact, the statements below were attributed to him in a separate hoax). Terry -Original Message- From: Marvin Hacker [mailto:marv...@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:56 PM To: mertber...@aol.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFw: You gotta love Robin Williams! - Original Message - Subject: Fw: You gotta love Robin Williams! Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:25:02 -0500 You gotta love Robin Williams.. . Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message. Robin William's plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!) I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan. 1.) The US will apologize to the world for our interference in their affairs, past present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic and the rest of those 'good ole boys,' We will never interfere again. 2.) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in the fence. 3.) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. France would welcome them. 4.) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers. 5.) No foreign students over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a D and it's back home baby. 6.) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while. 7.) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.) 8.) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not interfere. They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything. 9.) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens. 10.) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us Ugly Americans any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH.learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan. The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?' ~~~If you agree with the above forward it to friend... If not, and I would be amazed, DELETE it ! The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Discover the best of the best at MSN Luxury Living. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004
RE: CSNathan Filyk
Is this a 50/50 mix? Terry -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNathan Filyk marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/16/04 4:20:06 PM EST, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Mine is that CS mixed with aloe vera is 10 times as effective as either alone. Hi Marshall - this intrigued me. What do you use Aloe Vera for that CS would enhance? Also, are you talking about plain old ordinary Aloe Vera gel that one can purchase at Walmart for instance? Or are you talking about genuine Aloe Vera right from the plant? MA All my testing was done with store bought. For burns the aloe vera contains nutrients that allow the burned tissue to feed and heal while unable to receive fresh blood. Then once the blood supply is restored, it is still alive instead of dead. It also contains a number of antibiotics and antifungal compounds that reinforce the killing ability of the CS. There may be other synergies as well. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004
Re: CSNathan Filyk
Yes, more or less. Marshall Terry wrote: Is this a 50/50 mix? Terry -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNathan Filyk marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/16/04 4:20:06 PM EST, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Mine is that CS mixed with aloe vera is 10 times as effective as either alone. Hi Marshall - this intrigued me. What do you use Aloe Vera for that CS would enhance? Also, are you talking about plain old ordinary Aloe Vera gel that one can purchase at Walmart for instance? Or are you talking about genuine Aloe Vera right from the plant? MA All my testing was done with store bought. For burns the aloe vera contains nutrients that allow the burned tissue to feed and heal while unable to receive fresh blood. Then once the blood supply is restored, it is still alive instead of dead. It also contains a number of antibiotics and antifungal compounds that reinforce the killing ability of the CS. There may be other synergies as well. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004
Re: CSMold
Yes and or 3% hydrogen peroxide. I have not tried either one myself though. Lots of produce has been dropped from commercial distribution. One that I miss is crook neck squash, which too has disappeared, even from my local Whole Foods Markets. Seems the crook neck is too much trouble to transport. The straight neck cousin is preferred for ease of handling. Only thing is I don't care for it and so they are missing out on purchases I would have made. I have not seen Tokay grapes in a long time either. These days I rarely buy grapes because they are too high in sugar for my carb sensitive metabolism. But I used to indulge myself occasionally, particularly when I learned that the darker grapes are anti-viral - this includes grape juice. Garnet On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 18:57, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote: Hi Garnet, I love Tokay grapes, the kind with real seeds but no longer can find them for sale. They seem to have disappeared from the face of the earth. Sometimes I will settle for the poor imitation of red seedless grapes (supposed to be just like Tokay grapes but aren't even close), but usually end up leaving them too long and they mold. Do you think perhaps spraying Colloidal Silver would keep them fresh longer? Thank you, Jean Baugh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: mold
There are two aspects of mold that I discovered in my own long term exposure and illness. One is that it's hyphae are deeply penetrating and because it is slow growing it is slow to die. So you must continue to treat it long after symptoms have gone away. Ringworm is a case in point, if you do not continue to treat for 10 days after the lesions have healed on your skin they will come back. The other is that many of the symptoms of mold exposure are caused by the neurotoxins and other toxic VOCs, fumes, that are the mold's waste products. Try a search on neurotoxins and vision test as parameters. There is a doctor in Maine that has a great site including a $9 on line vision test that can help evaluate your neurotoxin load. Mold fumes can be carcinogenic, immune suppressive, neurotoxic, liver and kidney toxic . . . each mold has a different toxin and in any given mold infestation there are many species, not just one. Even if only one was identified in lab tests from samples in your home or body do not think you are only dealing with one species. It is very hard to grow out and identify species. Most labs don't do a good job of either. It must have collagen added to the plating media, some labs have no clue. Garnet On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 03:02, Mike Monett wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m71955.html Re: CSre: mold From: Paul Holloway Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:21:04 I'm just suffering a relapse of mold - aspergillus - in my sinuses. I was getting sinusitis, and getting other unpleasant symptoms, so I did a sinus flooding with CS and washed out lots of fungal hyphae. Does anyone know for sure that CS will kill mold, especially aspergillus? I'm assuming that I have previously killed any growing mold, but that there are spores that are more difficult to kill. I have started using pao d'arco as well as CS and DMSO as a nasal rinse, but I am wondering if the CS really helps. Any ideas very welcome. I thought I had beaten this and am feeling a bit demoralised. Paul H -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHerpes and Chocolate
Callebaut is a very high grade of chocolate. Bernard C Callebaut is a Belgian choclatier who resides in Vancouver Canada. I buy all three types, unsweet, bittersweet and semis sweet. You can tell by the melting point how pure it is. Most really good chocolate will melt at 65* or less. Probably the highest grades are difficult to come by unless you are in the biz, but this is the best I have found, even after trying other supposedly best brands like El Rey and Schauffenberger. I pay $6- $8 per pound for bulk Callebaut. It has the original coco butter and very few additives that I can taste, and I am pretty sensitive. But the sugar is definitely an additive so we bake with unsweetened and reserve the semi sweet for snacks, and the semi sweet chips for cookies. Sometimes a small sliver of semi sweet will satisfy my sweet tooth it is so rich. Garnet On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 01:28, John Rigby wrote: At 09:16 AM 19/07/04, Garnet wrote: I eat chocolate in spurts but generally eat it for snacks and use it a lot in baking. I prefer good quality like Callebaut and can buy it locally at Whole Foods as chips or blocks. Hi Garnet folks, But is that real chocolate? ( Real chocolate is exceedingly bitter and *ridiculously* expensive) 99.99% of all chocolate sold is compound and that doesn't only mean sugar added - they do some really disgusting things to keep it saleable. I have tried out carob and REAL chocolate on a chef du confection and fooled him. But, once you add sugar there is a distinct difference when made up. ( It was him who told me what they do to chocolate to make it chocolate) SWMBO makes a confection that knocks all our visitors out: Of course its ridiculously expensive like most real food, (sigh) A rough blend of nuts - cashews, pecans, brazil, walnut(sweet) and Tahini and raw honey, rolled in dessicated coconut and either served as Snowballs or rolled in Carob and called Swissballs. Coffee hint: I make a slow-brewed pot of ECCO fake coffee, very strong - 2 heaped teaspoons per person and 4 for the pot. NEVER let the water boil. Served with real full-cream milk , I've created many converts - as I don't tell them what it is till later and after the compliments! :-) Cheers! Himagain - suddenly feeling very peckish. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHer pes and Chocolate
Hi Garnet, My sister in WA sent me some Lady Godiva chocolates for Christmas. I looked to see what kind of nuts were in them. None?! Hm. I debated for awhile but then knowing what kind of money they must have cost, tried to eat some but it was sickeningly sweet and rich. I gave the candy to my goats, who vastly appreciated them to point where my life was endangered. It was a very good Christmas for them. My eyes must be going. You would not believe what I thought I saw in this heading when it came in. :) Jean Baugh Callebaut is a very high grade of chocolate. Bernard C Callebaut is a Belgian choclatier who resides in Vancouver Canada. I buy all three types, unsweet, bittersweet and semis sweet. You can tell by the melting point how pure it is. Most really good chocolate will melt at 65* or less. Probably the highest grades are difficult to come by unless you are in the biz, but this is the best I have found, even after trying other supposedly best brands like El Rey and Schauffenberger. I pay $6- $8 per pound for bulk Callebaut. It has the original coco butter and very few additives that I can taste, and I am pretty sensitive. But the sugar is definitely an additive so we bake with unsweetened and reserve the semi sweet for snacks, and the semi sweet chips for cookies. Sometimes a small sliver of semi sweet will satisfy my sweet tooth it is so rich. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNathan Filyk
Aloe is high in Vit E and allantoin, among other things, like Acemannan. Urine is also very high in allantoin and very healing as well as antibacterial due to the urea and antibodies present. In fact it is very specific to what ever your body is currently dealing with. It is well known for its efficacy by all indigenous peoples and has a 5,000 yo history of medical use. It is used in kidney and brain surgery even today in all major hospitals. Garnet On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 14:31, Marshall Dudley wrote: marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/16/04 4:20:06 PM EST, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Mine is that CS mixed with aloe vera is 10 times as effective as either alone. Hi Marshall - this intrigued me. What do you use Aloe Vera for that CS would enhance? Also, are you talking about plain old ordinary Aloe Vera gel that one can purchase at Walmart for instance? Or are you talking about genuine Aloe Vera right from the plant? MA All my testing was done with store bought. For burns the aloe vera contains nutrients that allow the burned tissue to feed and heal while unable to receive fresh blood. Then once the blood supply is restored, it is still alive instead of dead. It also contains a number of antibiotics and antifungal compounds that reinforce the killing ability of the CS. There may be other synergies as well. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPaul and nasal fungus
Grapefruit Seed Extract is supposed to be excellent for fungus, both nasal and other. Their site is www.nutriteam.com pj - Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign!
Re: CSre: mold
Aren't spores what started life on this planet? What else could have survived the trip? stuff At 07:27 AM 7/19/2004 -0400, you wrote: It's doubtful that CS will kill spores. Even hard radiation and space doesn't kill all of them. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: mold (ringworm)
At 05:04 PM 7/19/04, you wrote: treat it long after symptoms have gone away. Ringworm is a case in point, if you do not continue to treat for 10 days after the lesions have healed on your skin they will come back. I've always treated ringworm with an icecube with salt sprinkled on it. I hold the salty icecube on the ringworm till it goes numb. I do this about 3 times in 1 day and it kills it in 1 day. No return. +- Bentonite Clay for sale-+ http://pages.sbcglobal.net/davebe/clay.html ¦ David Bearrow ¦ ¦ dav...@sbcglobal.net ¦ + Phone: (972)722-8319 + -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPaul and nasal fungus
If you do use GSE just be sure you are not allergic to Benzalkonium Chloride (aka Nonoxynol and other names) which is used as a preservative in many GSE products. It causes allergic reactions in some people. It is also the spermicide in many jellies and used in dry clean carpet processes. Makes me itch like crazy to get it on my skin, my daughter too. First found out about my allergy from the jelly, talk about a bad itch! It has also been debated whether it is actually the component that is effective. I have not followed this debate close enough to say whether it has been proven either way. But I would not want to put Nonoxynol up my nose! Garnet On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 17:56, Shirley Reed wrote: Grapefruit Seed Extract is supposed to be excellent for fungus, both nasal and other. Their site is www.nutriteam.com pj __ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: mold (ringworm)
I wish I had known this a couple years ago. My 16 yo daughter had a case on her stomach and back that took 6 months to clear up. We used Lamisil and one other OTC product, neither worked completely. Finally I got her to use straught Tee Tree Oil, which she does not like the smell of and has caused previously caused some itching on its own. But using it straight cleared it up in a month. Ringworm can cause some severe deformities in some cases. Seems teenagers get Tinea versicolor and can struggle with it for some time. The ice cube and salt trick sounds a bit tricky but nice to know of a non-chemical cure. When she would get it as a young child, from the barn no doubt, we used liquid Tinactin and if we stayed with it could clear it up in about 2 weeks with once a day applications. Garnet On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 18:45, David Bearrow wrote: At 05:04 PM 7/19/04, you wrote: treat it long after symptoms have gone away. Ringworm is a case in point, if you do not continue to treat for 10 days after the lesions have healed on your skin they will come back. I've always treated ringworm with an icecube with salt sprinkled on it. I hold the salty icecube on the ringworm till it goes numb. I do this about 3 times in 1 day and it kills it in 1 day. No return. +- Bentonite Clay for sale-+ http://pages.sbcglobal.net/davebe/clay.html ¦ David Bearrow ¦ ¦ dav...@sbcglobal.net ¦ + Phone: (972)722-8319 + -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
At 10:55 AM 7/19/2004 -0400, Terry C. wrote: Healthy Terrain So what is healthy terrain? Béchamp began to describe it nearly two hundred years ago, but Claude Bernard finally put it this way. It consists of two internal factors: 1. Alkalinity 2. Negative Electrical Charge Then why are we taking positively charged silver ions? Is there something I've missed here? stuff Contributing to a healthy terrain are two factors, according to Bernard: 1. Nutrition 2. Toxins One must have proper nutrition and be free of toxins to maintain a healthy terrain. More recent studies add one more factor contributing to a healthy terrain: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: You gotta love Robin Williams!
Have you noticed everybody's got a plan for how I/you/we/they should live? Don't you find that odd, since the odds of these folks becoming dictators is nil? Where'd everybody pick up this disease? stuff At 10:55 PM 7/18/2004 -0500, you wrote: - Original Message - Subject: Fw: You gotta love Robin Williams! Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:25:02 -0500 You gotta love Robin Williams.. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPaul and nasal fungus
In a message dated 7/19/2004 5:15:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, garnetri...@earthlink.net writes: If you do use GSE just be sure you are not allergic to Benzalkonium Chloride (aka Nonoxynol and other names) which is used as a preservative I think that GSE made my sinus worse, so I eliminated it from my sinus flushes. My nose seems to be open all day but will close at night. With GSE my nose was dripping all day and night. Also had a problem making CS. Where I was making 10 PPM silver in several hours suddenly was taking several days. I found that my spacer to separate my anode and cathode 1 1/2 inches became coated and shorted out. I made the spacer by cutting out the bottom of an H2O2 bottle and drilling holes and placed it near the bottom of my generator. I removed my anode and cathode with my power supply on and saw it was drawing the current I set out of water. Removed the spacer and back to making CS in several hours My anode is 12 feet of . silver in a string of w's, and my cathode is 1/4 inch Diameter copper tube. The anode stays in place but he cathode doesn't. Any suggestions how to hold the cathode in place? I make one gallon CS at a time. I sprayed about 20 gallons of 30 PPM CS on my Christmas Trees that looked like they were dead or not growing right. I have a bunch of Anosus and phytoria root rot as my farm has been growing trees about 45 years. CS seems to help for phytoria, kept the tree alive but still not marketable unless someone feels sorry for it. I have a U-Cut and every now and then some do pick problem trees. Phytoria seems to split the tree trunk and makes large trunks. Brickey
Re: CSMozilla
Do any of you use LINDOWS operating system ? Its suppose to be more stable than windows,easy to use as windows virus free email.Its made by LINUX. Miscosoft sued them they had to change the name to LINSPIRE www.linspire.com - Original Message - From: John Rigby jrig...@fablor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:01 AM Subject: Re: CSMozilla At 01:16 PM 19/07/04, you wrote: Is mozilla another version of Netscape? Ahhh, sorta! :-) Netscape arose out of the original Mosaic Browser development, Open Source-free, which became Netscape as a commercial intention when the geeks realised that THIS - the graphic user simple interface - was what the world was waiting for. It made all o'this possible. ( Waving arms around in cyberspace). After a lot of excitement in its short career, Netscape finished up being slaughtered by Microsoft marketing mafia muscle and their FREE Browser. Netscape has no real development going on any more and lots of the old gang have put their effort in PERSONALLY to create Mozilla - rising from the ashes of Netscape and there you have it. Both are free products and anything is better than Internet Explorer - anything. Mozilla keeps gaining strength almost daily as it has been estimated that there are nearly 10,000 professional programmers donating time to it. It even has spinoffs already ( thus diluting its strength - the fate of all non-strongman-at-the-helm businesses) a standalone Browser called currently Firefox and Thunderbird a standalone Mail programme. Cheers, Himagain - non-geek observer of the cyberbog. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
