Re: cs and cancer?

[Dave Perkins]

Try Mr. Tracy from the Rife list Mr. Tracy
E-mail Address(es):
  tr...@plix.com

Dave Perkins

PS Don't believe the incurable part - that's wht they told me too - 9 mos.
ago!


- Original Message -
From: B&B Anthony 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: cs and cancer?


My sister just called and has a young friend with two small children that
the doctors have told her she has incurable cancer.  Can anyone send me some
web sites that might have information where people with cancer have been
helped with cs?  --BA



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Re: CS>ozone

[Dave Perkins]

OXYGEN LIST
E-mail Address(es):
  l...@oxytherapy.com

Dave Perkins


- Original Message -
From: Stephen Hessler 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 10:30 AM
Subject: CS>ozone


> Dear List,  2 Requests...
> Does anyone know of an oxygen/ozone list where one might find out the
> efficacy of ozonating a herbal formula after formulating to remove any
> inorganic
> accumulations that may be inherent in the herbs from a toxified (imported)
> herb
> or chemicals in the soil?
>
> Has anyone had experience with such a problem?
>
> TIA  h...@mcmo.net
>
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Re: CS>What product is best? etc.

[Dave Perkins]

Also, after you have heated the water place the container on the (turned on)
hot plate of a drip coffee maker to keep the water hot.

Dave Perkins

- Original Message -
From: Nina Silver, Ph.D. 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>What product is best? etc.


>
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 2:13 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>What product is best? etc.
>
>
> > < > gratifying it is to make your own -- and how easy it can be, once you've
> > ironed out the kinks.
>
> > Hello Nina,
> > I would love to make my own! Is it easy to do? I wouldn't know the
> first
> > thing about it. I make rugs (hehehe)... hooked and braided, so what you
> say
> > about being "satisfying," is certainly understood!!!
>
> This is how I do it: I put distilled water into a pyrex glass measuring
cup,
> then place that into a shallow pan of water for a double-boiler effect.
This
> way the plain water in the pot heats up the distilled water but the
> distilled water doesn't have to touch metal.
>
> Just before the distilled water is boiled (you'll see little bubbles in
it),
> remove it from the stove and place the silver electrodes into it and turn
on
> your CS maker. MAKE SURE THE SILVER ELECTRODES ARE FAR ENOUGH APART AND
> COMPLETELY PARALLEL. "Far enough apart" means around an inch, and
"parallel"
> means bend the wires if you have to. If these two things are not done,
> you'll get large silver particles on them that look like feathers. One
> person on the list said he made good CS with tap water, but I wouldn't
trust
> tap water, certainly not my tap water. Distilled is best.
>
> Don't use salt in your formula. Some people do this to accelerate the
> silver-making time, but a friend of mine tested silver made with salt and
> found that the germicidal properties were substantially decreased. Then he
> substituted baking soda, which was better; but I find that heating the
plain
> distilled water prepares it to "accept" the silver.
>
> Depending on the CS maker and how strong you like your silver, leave the
> electrodes in for 1/2 hour to one hour.
>
> Good luck. And DO it -- I use the stuff as though it's water! For
> everything!
> --Nina
>
>
>
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CS>email bounces

[Dave Perkins]

I have been deleted from the list because of too much bounced mail to
o...@bigfoot.com
This is the only list that is having a problem.  Please tell me what to do
to solve this problem with the CS list.
Thank you
Dave Perkins


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Re: CS>OT hair color 4 gray hair OffTopic

[Dave Perkins]

W.T.

What kind of colloial minerals seemed to work best? (brand?)

thanks
Dave Perkins

- Original Message -
From: W.T. Shoultz 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: CS>OT hair color 4 gray hair OffTopic


> Hi Christy,
>   I personally know of two different people who began taking colloidal
> minerals and their amount of gray lessened.  One of them just a little and
> the other almost completely.  I also remember seeing a product in a health
> magazine that claims to make your natural color come back.  It is a
natural
> supplement.  I believe the name was 'Shen Min'.  I can check some of my
back
> issues and see for sure if you would like.
>   If you do find something, let us all know!  I'm sure there would be
plenty
> of interest on the list.  I pretty much skipped the gray, too and started
> getting silver.  It provides quite a contrast to my jet black hair.  I
don't
> really mind it much, though.  It is supposed make us men look
> 'distinguished' anyway, isn't it?
> W.T.
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:27 PM
> Subject: CS>OT hair color 4 gray hair OffTopic
>
>
> > In a message dated 5/11/00 7:52:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > mailer-dae...@aol.com writes:
> >
> > <<
> >  Hi.  I am wondering if people can tell me about safe forms of hair
> coloring.
> >
> >  I'm  only 30 but have some gray hair...actually they are white
> hairs...have
> >  never seen a "gray" one. My dad got gray hair early and I think his mom
> did
> >  so that is probably at least part of the cause. I am rifing and doing
> >  supplements etc. but still have gray hairs.  I have tried lots of
shades
> of
> >  pure henna from the health food store and they do not bother me.  It is
> just
> >  a powdered form of an herb and you ad water.  I have multiple chemical
> >  sensitivities and I got another type of hair color from the health food
> > store
> >  that said natural on it and made from plants.  I bought this a long
time
> ago
> >  and never used it because I was trying various shades of henna.
Anyway,
> I
> >  recently got it out to look at it and it does have lots of plant
products
> in
> >  it but some of the ingredients do not sound natural to me and I opened
2
> >  bottles up and they smelled bad and made me nauseous.  The one bottle
> > smelled
> >  like finger nail polish or wine.  Anyway, the only problem with the
henna
> is
> >  that al the shades make my hair darker.  They cover up my natural
> highlights
> >  and i think I look better with the blondish highlights which help bring
> out
> >  my green eyes.  With the henna...even light brown...by light brown hair
> with
> >  blondish highlights becomes what I call dark brown.  But, the company
> says
> >  they cannot make blond henna b/c its not possible and they have tried.
> With
> >  henna it never lightens your hair.  It just coats it and helps cover
the
> >  gray.  Some products at walgreens you can get which won't lighten your
> hair
> >  but will just cover it..so like you can get blond and the gray will
> become
> >  blond...like Castings for example which you use like once a month.
But,
> I
> >  opened that stuff up and smelled it and it stunk and made me nauseous.
> So,
> > I
> >  just thought I would through this out their in case someone may know of
> >  something I don't know about.  One company at a second health food
store
> > with
> >  a different brand of henna has a "blond" henna but the ingredients
> actually
> >  say neutral henna with chamomile and marigold herbs in the mix.  I did
> try
> > it
> >  just to see what would happen but it did not cover the gray at all.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >
> >  Christy >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: CS>Silver - an article

[Dave Perkins]

Elna

Here is the site http://www.silverpuppy.com/  I own one and it's great - and
very reasonably priced.

Pls. tell Ken hello from me.

Dave Perkins


- Original Message -
From: Elena A. Milholland 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver - an article


> At 01:36 AM 5/12/00 EDT, you wrote:
> >
> >Monday.  Woke up with a summer cold and another dreadful bladder
> >infection.  I've had three or four of those per year for a decade.
Ouch!
> >The cold I could live with, but for the UTI  I'd need the usual round of
> >antibiotics.  Nothing else would work.
> >But wait.  I'd ordered a CS Generator a week ago.  It should be here
by
> >now.  Off to the post office.  It had arrived.  I came home, read the
> >directions and ran my first batch.  Took two ounces then, two before
bedtime,
> >and hoped for the best.
> >Next morning cold and UTI were gone.  GONE!  I could hardly believe
it.
> >That night I used CS as a gargle and an eyewash for the chronic dry-eye
> >syndrome that has plagued me most of my life.  CS made the moisture drops
> >work better, probably by killing eye bacteria.  The irritation was gone.
For
> >the first time in years I could stay up late and read or watch TV.  I was
> >incredulous!  At bedtime I rinsed my mouth with CS, gargled with it and
drank
> >some.
> >When I awoke next morning my mouth was fresh with no morning breath
or
> >bad taste.  I bounced out of bed early.  My eyes were clear, not dry,
sticky
> >and clogged.  Everything looked brighter and cleaner.  It had to be the
CS.
> >But something else had changed, and I hadn't even thought about it.
My
> >arthritic knees, painfully swollen the night before, were comfortable and
> >remain so.  The inflammation is gone.  I've been walking all week and
doing
> >water aerobics without difficulty.
> >It's been four days and I don't know when I've felt so well.  To
recover
> >without drugs is truly amazing.  I didn't expect  this.  I would have
settled
> >for a quick UTI cure.   I'll make CS daily and take it daily from now on.
> >The Coyote Zenterprizes CS generator is the best investment I've made in
> >years.  I recommend CS highly. and will sing its praises even if  I turn
> >blue!  And you may quote me!
> >
> >Jeanne
>
> Jeanne,
>
> Where can one buy this generator? (i,e website address, etc)
>
> Thank you
> Elena
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Silver - an article

[Dave Perkins]

Clear
- Original Message -
From: Elena A. Milholland 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver - an article


> At 04:35 PM 5/12/00 EDT, you wrote:
> > http://silverpuppy.com/current%20controlled%20CS%20generator.html";>s
> >ilverpuppy   Elena, there's the website.  The unit us $75, shipping
> >included.  A better unit at a better price.  Nice people, good info on
the
> >website.   If it won't open keep trying.
>
> Thank you, I visited it.  Good price, seems like a very nice unit.
> What color colloid did it make? ( Crystal clear, golden, etc? )
>
> Elena
> >
> >
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Re: CS>question for the list

[Dave Perkins]

Jeanin

Great work on the Mercury - what did you use to get it out so rapidly?
How did you test to see if your levels had dropped?

Thanks
Dave Perkins

- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 6:20 AM
Subject: CS>question for the list


> Okay Gang:  Help - time is running out
>
> I just had all my mercury amalgrams out 3 weeks ago even though broke and
> unemployed.  But I had reached a point of being completely bed ridden and
in
> excrutiating pain 24 hours a day.
>
> I just noticed the post (from James) that said :"According to R.O. Becker,
> silver is very helpful in restoring nerve
> function.  And, "heavy metals" start at atomic weight 200; silver is 107.8
> and some change."
>
> I have intermittent paralysis in both arms every day of my life; and it is
> getting worse.  Would the zapper or alot of CS help?  even though mine
might
> be related to an old injury and not mercury toxicity?  and BTW, I have
> apparently moved the better part of the mercury out of me in record
speed -
> all my fatigue seems to have left me.  I had a severe 7 day reaction and
> heavy anxiety for about 3 days; and then it just went away - otherwise, no
> real herx reactions to the mercury amalgram removal and mine was
extensive -
> 9 hours of drilling and replacement.  And I am now able to look for work;
one
> month ago I was almost too weak to even send out a resume.  Any
suggestions
> on this paralysis and pain?
>
> thanks,
> jeannin
>
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Re: CS>Polymyalga

[Dave Perkins]

Pls. excuse my ignorance but what is Polymyalga (I assume I'm fortunate not
to know)

Thanks
Dave Perkins

- Original Message -
From: Robert R Hasty 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Polymyalga


> Hi James,
>In Sept. 1998 I aquired Polymyalgia rheumatica .  I have a frequency
> generator that I used on the condition once a day for a month.
>frequencies are; 727, 832, 787, 880, 1500, 10,000 hertz, for3 min.
> each frec. Electrodes, hands to feet.
>My doctor couldn't believe his own diagnosis,[ when I told him what I
> did,] even though the blood tests indicated he was correct.
>Let me know if this is something you might want to try.
> Bob Hastyin Tampa , Fla.
>
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Re: CS>Water Ionizer

[Dave Perkins]

Linda

I have been using a water ionizer for about 3 months now as part of my
effort in recovering from non-hodgkins "T" cell lymphoma.

Since I am using many other protocols it is hard to pinpoint the results
from any specific one, however, after reading Sang Whang's book "Reverse
Aging" I am convinced that a good ionizer is a very effective way to
alkalize your body and make the oxygen and the minerals in the water more
available so that you detox your body more effectively at the cellular
level.

It also makes anything cooked with the water taste better (coffee, tea,
vegetables etc.) - I'm sure this isn't just my imagination.

Most of these Ionizers are in the $850 - $ 1,300 range.  I have found a
quality one for under $550 that has been very reliable for me.

Please contact me "off list" and I will give you more information.

Dave Perkins
oceanmot...@mindspring.com

- Original Message -
From: Lynn Beck 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:36 PM
Subject: CS>Water Ionizer


> Hi,
>
> I am new to the silver list.  I have been using Bob Becks machine and
think
> it works great, but I am wondering about the colloidal silver it makes.
How
> strong it is or how permeable?   Also, I was wondering if anyone has any
> experience with using the Japanese water ionizing machines the one that
> makes the alkaline acid water.  If you do could you email me to let me
know
> what you think of them?
> 
> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
>
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Re: CS>LindaLou post

[Dave Perkins]

.  you would need to be on the metals digest

Is this a list?
Where is it located?

Thanks
Dave Perkins

- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 5:11 AM
Subject: CS>LindaLou post


> Hi:
> does your sister in law still have all of her mercury amalgrams in her
mouth?
> if so let me know - she needs to have them out but there is a special
protcol
> . .  you would need to be on the metals digest so she could have them out
> safe.  why? because someone who can't lose; like me; the mercury attaches
to
> your RBC (red blood cells) and mimics no thyroid disease and eventually
the
> mercury attaches to the thyroid and causes all sorts of problems including
> depression.  So does she have "silver fillings"?  does she have other
mystery
> symptoms?
>
> Jeannine
>
>
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Re: CS>Re: CS> OT/ FDA Stops Alt Tx For Child

[Dave Perkins]

Thank you for posting this.  Here FYI is what I sent:

As a constituent, I ask that you please support the Thomas Navarro FDA
Patient Rights Act (HR 3677). This legislation gives patients, rather than
the Food and Drug Administration, the power to choose the method of medical
treatment.

The Act ensures that patients can choose their treatment, with full
disclosure of treatment options from the FDA, and removes the FDA's ability
to block access to treatments. The Act also assures that scientific research
can advance based on safety and efficacy.

Thank you for your thoughtful consideration of Thomas Navarro and his
family, whom this legislation is named for. The Navarros, and millions of
other Americans facing serious medical challenges, MUST have the freedom to
choose the medical treatment they deem best.

After surviving 3 years of "cutting edge" , FDA approved, traditional Cancer
treatments (including a Stem Cell Transplant) I was told in June 1999 "There
is nothing else we can do for you".
I have been treating myself since then and have survived only because I am
using some proven effective "alternative" methods that would cost most
Doctors thier licenses according to the AMA
and enforced by the FDA.

SOMEONE WHO IS "DYING" (AND THIER GUARDIANS) SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE
WHAT THEY HAVE RESEARCHED AND FOUND TO ALLOW OTHERS TO SURVIVE!!!

I hope you never find yourself or any of your loved ones in this situation
(1 out of 3 are now developing CANCER)and have not done all you could in
your position to provide some legal framework to give you (them) the right
to choose LIFE.

Thank you
David C, Perkins
Cancer Survivor - in spite of "legal" Medicine.





- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 12:24 AM
Subject: CS>Re: CS> OT/ FDA Stops Alt Tx For Child


> Fwd:
>
> 4-Year-Old Fights for More Than His Life
>
> "The FDA is Killing Our Children," says mother.
>
> http://www.cbn.org/Newsstand/stories/000504.asp";>FDA, Friend
orFoe?:
> 4-Year-Old Fights for More Than His Life
>
> http://www.cbn.org/Newsstand/stories/000504.asp
>
> By Joie Munda and Ken Hulme
> May 4, 2000
>
> -- EXCLUSIVE -- A young boy fights for his life from an aggressive form of
> brain cancer. Has the FDA become his worst enemy?
>
> People continue to protest over Elian Gonzales. Why is it that no one is
> fighting over Thomas Navarro?
>
> Thomas is the 4-year-old son of Arizona parents Jim and Donna Navarro. He
has
> medulloblastoma, an aggressive form of brain cancer. Recently doctors
> operated on the young boy to remove a golf ball size tumor. Without
> additional treatment, Thomas will die.
>
> What would you do if you were Thomas' parents? Worse still, what you do if
> your child were suddenly struck with this fatal form of brain cancer?
>
> As his young life hangs in the balance, vital questions have emerged for
> Thomas' parents, and by implication for the nation:
>
> 1. Which cancer treatments are best:
>
> The prescribed Food and Drug Administration (FDA) treatment of radiation
and
> chemotherapy, with their dramatic and debilitating side effects?
> Or an experimental treatments (approved in FDA trials) with an high
success
> rates and no known side effects?
> 2. Who has the right to decide which treatment is best for this 4 year
old-or
> any child with medical options: the parents and their doctor, or the
> government?
>
> 3. Is the FDA always right in its policies and practices?
>
> The "Recommended Treatment"
>
> When Thomas was diagnosed with brain cancer in September of 1999, not
> surprisingly, his parents were devastated. But within days, surgeons had
> successfully removed the cancerous growth. As a follow-up, they
recommended
> an aggressive cocktail of radiation and chemotherapy, a course typical for
> this type of cancer.
>
> Medulloblastoma takes just 45 weeks to grow a second tumor. If the first
one
> has been removed, the second one is fatal unless the patient undergoes
this
> type of "salvage therapy," as one study calls radiation treatment in
children
> Thomas' age.
>
> Initially, Jim was willing to trust doctors with the next step in his
child's
> care. But, he soon became skeptical when no one would talk to him about
what
> Thomas' condition would be like after chemotherapy and radiation. And
doctors
> were not willing to show the Navarros any survival reports of
> medulloblastoma.
>
> That's when the Navarros learned some shocking news!
>
> "Every patient, which doctors have treated with radiation and chemo at his
> son's age, was 'either crippled or dead,' " says Donna Navarro.
>
> When Jim wanted to know the ingredients of the chemotherapy, the doctor
said,
> "You don't need to know." That's when, "Our first red flag went up," says
> Jim.
>
> Later, Jim was assured by the radiologist that the side effects would be
> manageable. "He had listed skin redness, fatigue, nausea, vomiting, and
loose
> stools and had me sign it," says Jim. The doctor leaves the room. About 10
> mi

Re: CS>HVDC CS

[Dave Perkins]

Terry 

Sounds as simple, "down and dirty" as you can get - Thanks
What kind of containers do you use for the final product?

thanks
Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"





 Original Message - 
From: Terry Wayne 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 1:55 AM
Subject: CS>HVDC CS


> Listers,
> It seems there is only discussion about LVDC or HVAC.
> I put 1 quart of CS into a 1-gal pickle jar, fill up
> with DW, hang two 12" .999's as far apart as the
> bottle's edges, run 110VDC (from a 40 amp voltage
> rectifier), leave one hour. No stirring or switching
> polarity. I make 10 gallons/hour, sell to HF stores
> and pharmacies across Canada. I have made hundreds of
> gallons this way. My CS is always chrystal clear. Bob
> Berger tested it and reported it to be "12.1 ppm with
> a weak Tyndall effect with very few sparkles". He said
> it was a "very good product with small particle sized
> colloids". I have a 2-quart clear bottle full of CS
> which has been sitting all day everyday in the window
> in the sun since Jan. 13th, still clear.
> I get calls every week from HF store owners reporting
> amazing results from my CS. If CS can be made better
> than this, I'd be arrested!
> Thoughts, anyone?
> Terry Wayne
> 
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CS>Fw: A little (too true)Airline Humor

[Dave Perkins]

> 
> BUYING PAINT FROM A HARDWARE STORE
> 
> Customer: Hi.  How much is your paint?
> 
> Clerk: We have regular quality for $12 a gallon and premium for 
> $18.  How many gallons would you like?
> 
> Customer: Five gallons of regular quality, please.
> 
> Clerk: Great.  That will be $60 plus tax.
> 
> BUYING PAINT FROM AN AIRLINE
> 
> Customer: Hi, how much is your paint?
> 
> Clerk: Well, sir, that all depends.
> 
> Customer: Depends on what?
> 
> Clerk: Actually, a lot of things.
> 
> Customer: How about giving me an average price?
> 
> Clerk: Wow, that's too hard a question.  The lowest price is $9 
> a gallon, and we have 150 different prices up to $200 a gallon.
> 
> Customer: What's the difference in the paint?
> 
> Clerk: Oh, there isn't any difference; it's all the same paint.
> 
> Customer: Well, then, I'd like some of that $9 paint.
> 
> Clerk: Well, first I need to ask you a few questions.  When do 
> you intend to use it?
> 
> Customer: I want to paint tomorrow, on my day off.
> 
> Clerk: Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint.
> 
> Customer: What? When would I have to paint in order to get 
> the $9 version?
> 
> Clerk: That would be in three weeks, but you will also have to 
> agree to start painting before Friday of that week and continue 
> painting until at least Sunday.
> 
> Customer: You've got to be kidding!
> 
> Clerk: Sir, we don't kid around here.  Of course, I'll have to 
> check to see if we have any of that paint available before I can 
> sell it to you.
> 
> Customer: What do you mean check to see if you can sell it 
> to me? You have shelves full of that stuff; I can see it right 
> there.
> 
> Clerk: Just because you can see it doesn't mean that we have 
> it.  It may be the same paint, but we sell only a certain number 
> of gallons on any given weekend.  Oh, and by the way, the 
> price just went to $12. 
> 
> Customer: You mean the price went up while we were talking!
> 
> Clerk: Yes, sir.  You see, we change prices and rules 
> thousands of times a day, and since you haven't actually 
> walked out of the store with your paint yet, we just decided to 
> change.  Unless you want the same thing to happen again, I 
> would suggest that you get on with your purchase.  How many 
> gallons do you want?
> 
> Customer: I don't know exactly.  Maybe five gallons.  Maybe I 
> should buy six gallons just to make sure I have enough.
> 
> Clerk: Oh, no, sir, you can't do that.  If you buy the paint and 
> then don't use it, you will be liable for penalties and possible 
> confiscation of the paint you already have.
> 
> Customer: What?
> 
> Clerk: That's right.  We can sell you enough paint to do your 
> kitchen, bathroom, hall and north bedroom, but if you stop 
> painting before you do the bedroom, you will be in violation of 
> our tariffs.
> 
> Customer: But what does it matter to you whether I use all the 
> paint? I already paid you for it!
> 
> Clerk: Sir, there's no point in getting upset; that's just the way 
> it is. We make plans based upon the idea that you will use all 
> the paint, and when you don't, it just causes us all sorts of 
> problems.
> 
> Customer: This is crazy!  I suppose something terrible will 
> happen if I don't keep painting until after Saturday night!
> 
> Clerk: Yes, sir, it will.
> 
> 
> Customer: Well, that does it!  I'm going somewhere else to 
> buy my paint.
> 
> Clerk: That won't do you any good, sir.  We all have the same 
> rules.  Thanks for painting with our airline.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>HVDC CS

[Dave Perkins]

thanks for the information Terry

I saw a few posts that questioned the simplicity of your system to produce
such quality CS and in the time you stated, however, I must have missed your
reply.

I am interested in your method but would like a little more info. regarding
the questions raised.

Thanks, Terry
Dave Perkins
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From: Terry Wayne 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:26 AM
Subject: CS>HVDC CS


> Dave Perkins, et al,
> Yes, I make 10 gallons per hour, gross; 7 1/2 gallons
> per hour, net! If I needed to gross 10 gallons per
> hour, I would add more pickle jars. I clean the wires
> off at the end of each session. I switch the wires
> each batch. All 10 sets of wires run off the same
> rectifier.
> Terry Wayne
>
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CS>water bibliography

[Dave Perkins]

Not a complete list by any means, but informative:

http://members.tripod.com/~healingtools/h2obib.html

Dave Perkins
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Re: CS>Kills 650 different nasty things?

[Dave Perkins]

I went to the indicated url, however, I didn't see any reference to the
documentation to the "CS kill 650 kinds of nastys" statement.

It's a good question - does anyone know the answer
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Subject: Re: CS>Kills 650 different nasty things?


> In a message dated 06/13/2000 7:47:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> you...@konnections.com writes:
>
> << Can any of you shed some light on this? >>
>
> Check Robert Beck's website.and check further...
>
>  http://www.excel.net/~jaguar/morebeck.html";>Robert C. Beck,
> electronic medicine researcher. blood treatment
>
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Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie

[Dave Perkins]

Al

I am taking about 4Tbs. of flax oil as part of my recovery program from
non-hodgkins lymphoma.

I also mix it with a high quality protein source (I use organic -self
produced- kefir), however, I went to hear Udo Erasmus speak the other day
and he claims that there is no benefit to taking the oil with the protein
(he claims this is just a "marketing" gimmick)

I believe that it is synergistic, however, I can't find the documentation
that supports this.  Would you point me to a place I can find a discussion?

Thanks
Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"


- Original Message -
From: Clarence Slocum 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:04 AM
Subject: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie


> Dr. Budwig in Germany has used some simple food to cure a lot of real
> serious medical conditions:  Cancer, diabetes, liver disease, and many
> more.  Its quite simple:  Water soluable oil is needed to cary oxygen to
> cells of the body so it can heal itself.  The best one is flax oil.  It
> must be taken with cottage cheese to energize it.  Read her book, "
> Flaxoil as a true aid against arthritis, heart infarction, cancer and
> other diseases."  Dr Johanna Budwig.  Also, in "Optimal Wellnes" by Dr
> Ralph Golan.  These simple foods are so plain that anyone can add them
> to their food intake with no concern.  Two tablespoons of flax oit with
> three tablespoons of cottage cheese is all that is needed each day.  The
> above diseases were cleared up in 3 months.  I think it would help.
> Al
>
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Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie OT kefir

[Dave Perkins]

Get some kefir starter at your health food store ( in the cooler - it comes
in a box with small packs inside, heat milk to about 200 degrees, let cool,
add a pack per quart of milk ( I use organic): let sit at room temp. for 18
to 24hrs then refrigerate and enjoy.  It's better than store bought, and
especially better than the flavored ones that usually have sugar added.

I have been told you can use some kefir as a starter but I haven't tried
that.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"


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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie


> To Dave Perkins, betterwayhealth.com
>
> How does one make kefir?  I'd like to know.  :o)
>
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Re: CS>Todd Horton/Cottage Cheese

[Dave Perkins]

Good quote - Re: pg 11 - what book/article is it from?
thanks
Dave Perkins

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From: Clarence Slocum 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 2:11 AM
Subject: CS>Todd Horton/Cottage Cheese


> "Flax Oil as a True Aid against Arthritis,Heart Infarction, Cancer and
> other diseass" page 11 flax seed oil, togther with the substance
> which dissolves them, and that is cottage cheese.   Variousl highly
> trained and educated individuals are dismayed and irritated by the fact
> that serious medical conditions can be cure by cottage cheese and flax
> seed oil." 
>  
> 
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Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie OT kefir

[Dave Perkins]

Edith

I do it all at once.

I'm checking to see if kefir is as good synergistically as cottage cheese.

Get some kefir starter at your health food store ( in the cooler - it comes
in a box with small packs inside, heat milk to about 200 degrees, let cool,
add a pack per quart of milk ( I use organic): let sit at room temp. for 18
to 24hrs then refrigerate and enjoy.  It's better than store bought, and
especially better than the flavored ones that usually have sugar added.

I have been told you can use some kefir as a starter but I haven't tried
that.

My recovery is going great (thanks for asking) especially since I have been
using the ionizing water filter.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"







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To: 
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie


> In a message dated 06/15/2000 9:35:30 AM Central Daylight Time,
> dperk...@betterwayhealth.com writes:
>
> << Al
>
>  I am taking about 4Tbs. of flax oil as part of my recovery program from
>  non-hodgkins lymphoma.
>
>  I also mix it with a high quality protein source (I use organic -self
>  produced- kefir),  >>
> ^^
> Dave,
> Do you take this at one setting or maybe didvide it?  And how do you make
> kefir?  And how are you doing with recovery.wish you the best on
that!!
> Edith
>
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Re: CS>New list member with a question

[Dave Perkins]

Good Pamela!

I know a chiropractor who uses Dr. Nelson's device (QX 10 I believe) with
great success diagnosing and then giving the body the correct "frequency
feedback" to restore health.

It has consistently proven itself to be of (demonstrated ) value.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"


- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: CS>New list member with a question


> You are MOST welcome! I have, actually, another response written,but for
> now this is what I really wanted to say.
>
>
>
> >Fabulously interesting Pamela. Thanks so much for expanding upon this
> >subject. I, for one, would love to learn all I can about it and the man
> >who invented it.
> >
> >Diane
> >
> >Pamela Grant wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi there Pam,
> >> >
> >> >Well, I have heard of some strange machines in my time, but the
'Quantum
> >> >Xyrroid Consciousness Interface device' pretty much takes the prize.
Not
> >> >invented by Inspector Gadget was it ;-)
> >> >
> >> >Hope it works for you!
> >>
> >> And Hello To You Too, Ivan(not the terrible?)
> >>
> >> That's interesting, I guess the same reaction would have been said if
> >> someone were to describe a computer to another in the early 1800's. If
you
> >> are not familiar with similar devices then I guess it IS VERY strange
> >> sounding.
> >>
> >> It is a biofeedback device.  It treats stress--but can't say it
actually
> >> treats, for ex., cancer. It increases one's awareness of a
physiological
> >> response which IS biofeedback. You see: awareness=consciousness. Just
> >> thought I'd explain that to you since you seemed to freak a little over
the
> >> word consciousness(or am I wrong?).
> >>
> >> Actually, the QXCI was invented by Dr. William Nelson--the same Dr. who
> >> fought the FDA twice in court and won. He is not one to be taken
lightly.
> >> He was the sole person who fought the FDA(1990) and got acupuncture
needles
> >> listed as a true medical devices in our country. He also was
responsible
> >> for getting Apollo 13 safely back to earth at his young age of 17(maybe
it
> >> was 18--but anyhow)---ever see the movie--he's the guy! He worked at GM
> >> around that time(of Apollo 11) as he was also going to school for
> >> electrical engineering. His job was to measure the errors of the gyro.
Then
> >> Apollo 12 went up and back safely. But then Honeywell took over and
> >> downsized to 3 people. Then the day came--Apollo 13. (Bill had been
> >> drinking and partying the entire night before this incidence). that day
> >> there were only 3 people to figure the mathmatics to know whether or
not
> >> "they" could turn off the gyro for 30hrs. and turn it back on safely.
> >> During lunch that day the rest of his coworkers had gone to lunch. Bill
had
> >> not left yet. Then the phone rang and the person on the other end
claimed
> >> to be from the Apollo 13 and stated that there was a problem and they
were
> >> asking if it was safe to turn off the gyro and turn back on after
30hrs.
> >> Bill thought it was a joke and said, "oh, yea sure, go ahead. When Bill
got
> >> to lunch he expressed to his college frat. buddies  that that was a
great
> >> joke--calling and saying they were the Apollo. He soon found out that
his
> >> buddies did no such joke and that it WAS for real When he got back to
work
> >> things were intense. There was his boss, Bill and 3 others. They had
one
> >> hour to come up, mathmatically, with the solution. Each went off alone
to
> >> figure the equations. When they returned the other 2 said, "we think we
> >> know the answer". Then his boss looked at him and Bill said, "I know
the
> >> answer". Of course their answers were different. Luckily, his boss
decided
> >> to go with Bill's answer and not the other 2 employees--for if he had
> >> Apollo 13 would have have had an entirely different history written in
the
> >> books. I hear a law suit is pending.
> >>
> >> I will continue here a little further about the inventor of this
device:
> >> did I mention he was the first person to ever receive a perfect score
on
> >> his SAT's in math, not to mention his perfect score in science also(but
> >> wasn't the first). He graduated from highschool at the age of 12 and
> >> entered college at that time. After com

Re: CS>New NIST Amalgam Material Contains No Mercury

[Dave Perkins]

If you have a metallic dental filling, you probably have a small
amount
of mercury in your mouth.

I think 50 % mercury would be considered more than a "small" amount.

I was never able to prevent recurrences of my non-hodgkins lymphoma until I
had my amalgams (read mercury) removed.

"concern over toxicity" is pretty mild considering that it has been proven
beyond doubt that mercury shows up in the bone marrow and brains of monkeys,
sheep and other animals sacrificed a few months after receiving their
"amalgam" fillings.

To my knowledge there has never been any scientifically valid research done
to prove that mercury filling are safe - just the ADA saying "we have been
doing this for 100 years and don't see any problem"

It's nice that there is an alternative, however, your characterization of
this toxic substance in someone's mouth as "prompting discussions"
For decades, U.S. dentists have used alloys
> containing copper, tin, silver, zinc and mercury in amalgams. Such
> alloys are ideally suited to the job. They're long-lasting, strong,
> corrosion-resistant and bond easily to tooth enamel. However, concern
> over the toxicity of mercury has prompted discussion about restricting
> their use.

Is a grossly understated view of the threat the decades of "approved dental
practice" have foisted upon the uninformed and unsuspecting public.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy - mercury free - being"



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From: Ivan Anderson 
To: Silver-List 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:00 AM
Subject: CS>New NIST Amalgam Material Contains No Mercury


> Dentistry
> Smile! New NIST Amalgam Material Contains No Mercury
> If you have a metallic dental filling, you probably have a small amount
> of mercury in your mouth. For decades, U.S. dentists have used alloys
> containing copper, tin, silver, zinc and mercury in amalgams. Such
> alloys are ideally suited to the job. They're long-lasting, strong,
> corrosion-resistant and bond easily to tooth enamel. However, concern
> over the toxicity of mercury has prompted discussion about restricting
> their use.
>
> Until now, there were no replacement materials that worked as well.
> Metallurgists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology have
> perfected a method for making silver powder that, when properly
> consolidated, has properties that equal or exceed those of
> mercury-containing alloys. The powder is precipitated from a solution
> and then treated with a dilute acid to remove silver oxide from the
> surface of the very small silver particles. These particles then can be
> compacted carefully with normal dental tools into a tooth cavity where
> they consolidate through cold welding. Fillings made this way are 80
> percent dense and are at least as strong as mercury-alloy amalgams.
>
> NIST is inviting companies to apply to license the patented process by
> contacting Terry Lynch at (301) 975-2691.
>
> Media Contact:
> Linda Joy ,  (301) 975-4403
>
>
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Re: CS>QXCI links

[Dave Perkins]

Pam
Me too
Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

- Original Message -
From: d.linen 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: CS>QXCI links


> Pam,
>
> If you go ahead with the idea of the QXCI list, please put me down. I
> definitely wish to learn as much as possible about this subject. It
> sounds like a combination of radionics and biofeeback plus something
> else I haven't discerned yet. Or perhaps I'm mistaken in my
> understanding.
>
> Thanks,
> Diane
>
> Pamela Grant wrote:
> >
> > >If you say so. Who has testimonials?
> > >
> > >Best Regards, Robert Ratliff
> >
> > I doubt if anyone has bothered to put such a piece of work together, but
> > you are giving me an idea. Someone else triggered me into the idea that
> > perhaps there should a QXCI list. I have my own testimonials from my
> > personal treatments of myself, from friens and relatives and otheres I
have
> > treated and many accounts from those in conversations over the phone. We
> > are all fairly new to this(I am almost a year into it, though a car
> > accidsent put a damper on my momentum).
> >
> > Anyone into to this are practititioners and the ones that I know do not
> > have the time to vest into testimonials though there must be
> > someone--perhaps just hasn't reached the internet. There is someione out
in
> > Clorado that had a site--don't remeber who, however.
>
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CS>Re: cancer treatment

[Dave Perkins]

- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:10 PM
Subject: treatment


> Hi Dave,
>
> You mentioned on the list you are using the flax oil/cottage cheese
> as part of your treatment.   Are you juicing and those type things?
>
> My sister-in-law has terminal cancer and we are interested in treatments
> of others.  If you choose not to respond to this personal inquiry,
> I will understand.
>
> Edith from the silver list
>

Happy to respond Edith

If I can help anyone avoid the learning curve I went through to find the
most effective products and protocols it is how I can give back for my good
fortune to survive.

Time, at the moment limits the extent to which I can go however here is some
information about my protocols and products (and a history of my "medical"
journey).  Please contact me with any questions or for more details after
looking at this.  You can overcome cancer by making your "body ecology"
unfriendly to what cancer needs to flourish.

Also visit my (under construction) web site www.betterwayhealth.com for some
good general information about cancer and disease in general, regarding the
keys:
Detox; Oxygenate; Alkalize and Potentiate (a maximum, appropriate immune
response)

CS is a critical part of my program as well as the  Ionized Alkaline Water
and Rifing.

I am going to copy the CS list as I think this is good information for
anyone needing to regain health or maintain a level of vigorous health.

HIGHLIGHTS OF CURRENT PROCEDURES

DAVID C. PERKINS


n Green juicing (kale, char, parsley, cilantro, cucumber, celery, collards,
beet, diakon, ginger, w/ enough carrot to make palatable) combine as
available - 32oz per day

n Coffee Enemas - 5-6 times/week; began Dec. 99;  went to 2-3 times/week
since April 99.  Implant 4.5 oz. Chlorophyll w/ ½ Tbs. of Bifidus and ½ tsp.
Lactobacillus complex. (If this generates too much gas I eliminate the
Bifidus and L. Bacillus)

n O3 (ozone) therapy -   .5L one min. rectally (immediately after my enema)
began Dec. 99

n Colonic irrigation - Began in Sept. 99 - weekly; Oct-Nov. bi-weekly; now
every 3 to 4  weeks

n Using "Rife" device (bio frequency therapy) daily - began in Sept. 99.

n Nutritional IV's (25 grams "C" w/ various B vits.) started in Sept. 99 -
weekly until end of Oct. 99

n Dental mercury removed - Nov. 10 - Dec. 6.  Two root canals pulled; two
remain.

n Mercury detox. per Dr. Tate "synopsis" (eggs poached in butter w/garlic
daily - sulphur ) plus; DMPS chelation 12/8, 12/22.

n 25 grams IV Vit. C - weekly;  began 12/18; 50 grams started 1/8/00

n IV DMSO began 1/6/00 w/beta glucans and aloe - weekly, bi-weekly since
April 99.

n 15 min. on "Rebounder" (mini trampoline) most days to oxygenate my system
and stimulate lymph movement.

n 15 min. on "Chi" machine most days (with oxygen via nose canula) - same
reasons as "Rebounder"

n Avoiding white flour; sugar; fruits; alcohol & most grains.

n 30-40 oz. "Alkalized water" purchased from a woman who has a water
ionizing unit that splits filtered water into "acid" and "alkaline"
components. This helps to make the water's oxygen more available to me at
the cellular level which helps detox my body at the cellular level.
Purchased my own Water Ionizer (after finding a good unit that I could
afford) in March 2000 and now use it for all cooking, drinking etc.
Generally drink about 80 oz @ 8.5 pH daily.

n Four cups of Green Tea daily - made with the Alkalized water

n Supplements, herbs:
Beta 1,3,D Glucans 1000mg x2
IP6 500mg. x6
MGN3 (Arabinaxylane compound) 250mg x2
ARA6 (Arabinogalactan) (Larix occidentalis extract) 500mg. x6
Bio Zyme (Pancreatic enzymes) 325mg.  x12
Jarro-Zyme (Porcine Pancreatic enzymes) 425mg. x4
Freeze dried Calf Liver 1 t. w/carrot juice x1
Pregest "cultured enzymes" x4
Sea Cure (White Fish) 500mg. x9
CoQ10 120mg x2
Milk Thistle 80mg. x2
Garlic 12 mcg/gram x2
Selenium 200 mcg x2
Lecithin 1200mg x2
Magnesium 300mg. & Potassium 40mg. Asportates x2
Vit. E  400iu x2
Folic acid 800mcg. x1
Vit. B Complex 50mg. X2
Zinc x3
Cod Liver Oil 1tsp. x2
Flax Oil Tbs. W/ 3oz Cottage Cheese x6
Ground Flax seed Tbs. x2
Sodium Acerbate 4 grams x2
L-Glutamine 3,800mg. x1
Broken cell Chlorella 6 grams x1
Bernadine HCL  520mg. w/ Pepsin 20mg. taken with meals.
Elysian "Greening Power" - 45 synergistic herbs 1T x2
Taco - food based vitamin/ mineral complex 1T x4
Homeopathic as recommended

DAVID PERKINS
Born 11/19/40 (59yrs.)Ph.678-560-1808

CHRONOLOGY OF NON-HODGKINS T-CELL LYMPHOMA

8/96  Admitted to Cobb Hospital w/ 103 temp, diarrhea, and vomiting.
Transferred to Veterans Admin. Hospital after 2 weeks with a diagnosis of
Endocarditis. NOTE: Endo. was diagnosed one day before transfer - there was
no sign of it the next day or ever again.

9/96  Non Hodgkins T-Cell Lymphoma , stage 4B diagnosed.  Had 6 rounds of
C.H.O.P. chemotherapy at the V.A.  NOTE: approx. 5 weeks in intensive care
before diagnosis.

12/96  Cancer in remission.

8/97  Started running very high fev

Re: CS>New NIST Amalgam Material Contains No Mercury

[Dave Perkins]

Marshall

If someone never had fillings replaced etc. it would eventually disappear
(along with them). It usually takes 18 to 20 years to get the maximum
"benefit" from the mercury levels in your body building up to the point the
toxicity is noticeable.

Most of my fillings had been in my mouth for 30+ years.  When I was tested
(using the same instrument OSHA uses for mercury vapor) I registered "off
the scale" by over 50pts. (me 136 - top of scale 80) anything in the 2 to
3pt. range is considered by OSHA as unsafe in a work environment.
Indicating to me that a considerable amount was still actively leaching out
and adding to the accumulation in my body.  Don't tell OSHA or they will
come out and seal my mouth off.  (many might think this is a pretty good
idea, however).

Also,I don't eat many large ocean fish - Tuna, Sword etc. either.  Fish
being the second major source of mercury poisoning for the general
population.


Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"


- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS>New NIST Amalgam Material Contains No Mercury


> Dave Perkins wrote:
>
> > If you have a metallic dental filling, you probably have a small
> > amount
> > of mercury in your mouth.
> >
> > I think 50 % mercury would be considered more than a "small" amount.
>
> I think what they are saying is that most of the mercury in the fillings
has
> most likely leached out and is now in your body, thus only a small amount
is
> left in your mouth.
>
> Marshall
>
>
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Re: CS>Mercury levels

[Dave Perkins]

Thanks for the information.

I am only going by what I have seen published (over the years - I don't have
a ready source) and by what I have been told by holistic dentists.
I would be interested in whatever you have that would erase this perception.
I always understood that because they were at the top of the food chain and
were usually quite large (old) when they were caught that Tuna and Swordfish
had concentrated many of the toxins from the years of eating smaller fish
and other critters.
As hard a job as I understand that this type of fishing is,  it is easy to
see why you would be so outraged by Govt. seizure of anyone's catch,
especially if there was no evidence of high levels of contaminants.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

You don't think maybe the mammoths were originally swordfish eaters do you?
:0)

- Original Message -
From: Bob Squires 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 6:51 PM
Subject: CS>Mercury levels


>
>
> Dave Perkins and all;
>
> I fished Tuna ,Swordfish and many other species for 30 years and
> have been through this nightmare many times . The main thing that you
> will find in most cases with these federal agencies and their
> regulations is that very few of them know what they are talking about .
> They go by a book written by some one who didn't know what they were
> talking about either . One would think that these pelagic species would
> be the least likely to pick up heavy metals considering where they live
> and feed in the open the open sea . I had a friend in the 60's who had
> some 24 tons of swordfish in storage in a freezer in Calif.  The EPA
> removed his swordfish with no notice or court action and destroyed them
> saying the mercury level was to high . At the time they were worth
> $1200.or more a ton. About 3 mos. Later they found the intact  Mammoths
> and other animals frozen on the north slope of Alaska  . These were
> taken to the Smithsonian or other museums where tests revealed that the
> mercury levels of all of these animals were several times higher that
> that established by the regulators. The seizure was carried out under
> the color of law by people who had no authority to do so in any state.
> This is the thing about the benefits of CS you must find out the truth
> for yourself . Not only for CS but for all drugs .
>
> Best wishes to all
> Bob
>
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CS>Fw: CS>New List

[Dave Perkins]

Diane 
i would like to be part of the list also.
Thanks 
Dave Perkins

- Original Message - 
From: Pamela Grant 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: CS>New List


> Diane,
> 
> I would appreciate it if you would also enter me on the list you
> mentioned---forgot to ask in last e-mail. Thanks.
> 
> PG
> 
> 
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Re: CS>New list member with a another question

[Dave Perkins]

Where do you get filters that don't add any bad stuff but effectively get
rid of any "gunk".  I know there shouldn't be gunk but nobody is perfect.

Thanks
Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"


- Original Message -
From: Fred 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 1:23 PM
Subject: CS>New list member with a another question


> Third responder - coffee filters tend to ADD PPM of undesirable stuff,
> and the "Brew Rite" brand produces photosensitive silver salts! You
> will get a dark Cs mix if left in the sun for an hour! Guess your plants
> won't care, but don't drink it!
>
> f...@health2us.com
>
> At 03:26 AM 6/19/2000, you wrote:
> >Filtration has with some CS in the past been shown to reduce PPM.
> >James Osbourne Holmes
> >a...@trail.com
> >FTNWO
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From:   cking...@nycap.rr.com [SMTP:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
> >Sent:   Sunday, June 18, 2000 8:05 PM
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject:Re: CS>New list member with a another question
> >
> >Don't be too quick to discard "bad batches".
> >Filter thru a coffee filter if you want to, and use it for household
purposes.
> >Plants, garbage cans, shower curtains, etc...
> > Chuck
> >186,000 mps--it's not the law, it's just a challenge!
> >
> >On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:14:11 -0500, Pamela Grant 
wrote:
> >
> > >I have read a few mailings that pertained to size of CS particles. I
had
> > >become concerned(not a lot, however) that my solution , at times, did
not
> > >look "healthy". Whatever I mean by that--the solution at times became
> > >gray---even toward black--IF I left it running too long. Is there any
> > >danger in this that anyone knows? Or should I, when that happens, just
> > >throw out and start over--paying better attention to the time?
>
>
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Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie

[Dave Perkins]

Egg yokes have sulphur - every morning, to help chelate out the mercury in
my system, I have two eggs poached in coconut oil and 4 to 5 cloves of
minced garlic (more sulphur) as well as drink Kefir with 4 Tbs. of Flax Oil.

You might try these sources of sulphur if you can't stomach cottage cheese.
I'm not sure if there are any benefits to cottage cheese that may be missing
using the above strategy.  Anyone know?

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"


- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie


> >Thanks for the advice.  I have a small problem.  I went out and bought
the
> >plain cottage cheese and mixed it with the flax oil and then tried to eat
> >it.  First, I don't like cottage cheese, and second, it tastes really bad
> >with the flax oil.  Now I know why it helps to kill the bacteria.  Its
the
> >taste Uck, Uck, Uck!! I don't think I can get it down, if you know
what
> >I mean.  Ok, maybe I can see if I can take the flax oil, just by itself.
> >Maybe this will help something.
>
> I think that catolog I mentioned sells a capsule that also supplies the
> needed sulphur. You would have to call them and ask if this is true.
>
> PG
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie - seriously OT

[Dave Perkins]

Diane

Thanks, I just try, for the sake of time, to combine as many protocols as
possible into each meal.

Hint:
- put the coconut oil in the depressions and heat the water beneath them (I
have one that fits on top of a large sauce pan)
- mince the garlic into the melted oil, place the lid on the poacher and let
steam for 1 to 2 min. to knock the "edge" off the raw garlic,
- crack your eggs and cook on top of the garlic.

What else I find tasty:
- sprinkle some Dulse flakes on the finished eggs
- add Cayenne pepper to taste
- accompany with some toasted Ezekiel bread spread with Ghee
- have a large scoop of cultured veggies on the side

Bon Appetite!

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"



- Original Message -
From: d.linen 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie


>
>
> Dave Perkins wrote:
> >
> > Egg yokes have sulphur - every morning, to help chelate out the mercury
in
> > my system, I have two eggs poached in coconut oil and 4 to 5 cloves of
> > minced garlic (more sulphur) as well as drink Kefir with 4 Tbs. of Flax
Oil.
> >
> > You might try these sources of sulphur if you can't stomach cottage
cheese.
> > I'm not sure if there are any benefits to cottage cheese that may be
missing
> > using the above strategy.  Anyone know?
>
> You have such excellent ideas, Dave. I'm going to have to try this. It's
> a lot of garlic though.
>
> Thank you,
> Diane
>
>
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Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie

[Dave Perkins]

Absolutely, Marshall - I use that too (in 1000 mg. capsules), however I
don't think adding to the flax oil would do much to "improve" the taste -
I'm sure it would alter the flavor though.  BLEAHH

Dave Perkins


- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie


> How about MSM as a great source of sulfur?
>
> Marshall
>
> Dave Perkins wrote:
>
> > Egg yokes have sulphur - every morning, to help chelate out the mercury
in
> > my system, I have two eggs poached in coconut oil and 4 to 5 cloves of
> > minced garlic (more sulphur) as well as drink Kefir with 4 Tbs. of Flax
Oil.
> >
> > You might try these sources of sulphur if you can't stomach cottage
cheese.
> > I'm not sure if there are any benefits to cottage cheese that may be
missing
> > using the above strategy.  Anyone know?
> >
> > Dave Perkins
> > "enjoy being"
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Pamela Grant 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 12:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie
> >
> > > >Thanks for the advice.  I have a small problem.  I went out and
bought
> > the
> > > >plain cottage cheese and mixed it with the flax oil and then tried to
eat
> > > >it.  First, I don't like cottage cheese, and second, it tastes really
bad
> > > >with the flax oil.  Now I know why it helps to kill the bacteria.
Its
> > the
> > > >taste Uck, Uck, Uck!! I don't think I can get it down, if you
know
> > what
> > > >I mean.  Ok, maybe I can see if I can take the flax oil, just by
itself.
> > > >Maybe this will help something.
> > >
> > > I think that catolog I mentioned sells a capsule that also supplies
the
> > > needed sulphur. You would have to call them and ask if this is true.
> > >
> > > PG
> > >
> > >
> > >
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silver.
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Re: CS>New list member with a another question

[Dave Perkins]

Thanks Alvin, it sounds like a simple enough solution, however,  I thought
letting CS come in contact with any metal was a no no.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"


- Original Message -
From: Alvin Rose 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>New list member with a another question


> Hi David
> use a ultra fine mesh stainless steel coffee filter will get
> rid of your problem..they are easy to buy and are available
> in most supermarkets where coffee machines and parts  are sold
>
> Dave Perkins wrote:
>
> > Where do you get filters that don't add any bad stuff but effectively
get
> > rid of any "gunk".  I know there shouldn't be gunk but nobody is
perfect.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dave Perkins
> > "enjoy being"
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Fred 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 1:23 PM
> > Subject: CS>New list member with a another question
> >
> > > Third responder - coffee filters tend to ADD PPM of undesirable stuff,
> > > and the "Brew Rite" brand produces photosensitive silver salts! You
> > > will get a dark Cs mix if left in the sun for an hour! Guess your
plants
> > > won't care, but don't drink it!
> > >
> > > f...@health2us.com
> > >
> > > At 03:26 AM 6/19/2000, you wrote:
> > > >Filtration has with some CS in the past been shown to reduce PPM.
> > > >James Osbourne Holmes
> > > >a...@trail.com
> > > >FTNWO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
> > > >From:   cking...@nycap.rr.com [SMTP:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
> > > >Sent:   Sunday, June 18, 2000 8:05 PM
> > > >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > >Subject:Re: CS>New list member with a another question
> > > >
> > > >Don't be too quick to discard "bad batches".
> > > >Filter thru a coffee filter if you want to, and use it for household
> > purposes.
> > > >Plants, garbage cans, shower curtains, etc...
> > > > Chuck
> > > >186,000 mps--it's not the law, it's just a challenge!
> > > >
> > > >On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:14:11 -0500, Pamela Grant

> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I have read a few mailings that pertained to size of CS particles.
I
> > had
> > > > >become concerned(not a lot, however) that my solution , at times,
did
> > not
> > > > >look "healthy". Whatever I mean by that--the solution at times
became
> > > > >gray---even toward black--IF I left it running too long. Is there
any
> > > > >danger in this that anyone knows? Or should I, when that happens,
just
> > > > >throw out and start over--paying better attention to the time?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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silver.
> > >
> > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message
to:
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> > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line.
> > >
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> > > Silver-list archive:
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
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> > >
> > >
>
>

Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie

[Dave Perkins]

I hope kefir qualifies if there is PG - it is a pleasing combination to me
and helps quench the fire when the cayenne get a little too hot (previous
post)

Dave Perkins


- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie


> >Egg yokes have sulphur - every morning, to help chelate out the mercury
in
> >my system, I have two eggs poached in coconut oil and 4 to 5 cloves of
> >minced garlic (more sulphur) as well as drink Kefir with 4 Tbs. of Flax
Oil.
> >
> >You might try these sources of sulphur if you can't stomach cottage
cheese.
> >I'm not sure if there are any benefits to cottage cheese that may be
missing
> >using the above strategy.  Anyone know?
> >
> >Dave Perkins
> >"enjoy being"
>
>
> I think that there is "something" special about the type of protein---I am
> going to try and find that book so I can look this up and be somewhat
sure.
>
> PG
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie

[Dave Perkins]

Pam
I haven't heard of that one however I do take Cilantro Extract and add fresh
Cilantro to my green juice.  It is an excellent mercury chelator.

Dave Perkins


- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie


> > Egg yokes have sulphur - every morning, to help chelate out the mercury
> > in
> > > > my system, I have two eggs poached in coconut oil and 4 to 5 cloves
of
> > > > minced garlic (more sulphur) as well as drink Kefir with 4 Tbs. of
Flax
> > Oil.
>
> Spirulina, lipoic acid and N-Acety L-Cysteine are also great for a detox.
> Have you tried the homeopathic " Mercurious Solubis(30C)?
>
> PG
>
>
>
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Re: CS>New list member with a another question

[Dave Perkins]

Good points Alvin - I'm off to the local food gadget store.

Thanks
Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"


- Original Message -
From: Alvin Rose 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: CS>New list member with a another question


> I don't know if there is a chemical reaction between stainless steel and
> colloidal silver but it certainly won't insert all of the impurities as
would
> occur through a paper coffee filter and other methods..there are design
> plans on the net for c/s generators where the negative electrode is
stainless
> steel..I use the ss filter and it does the job for me.as it removes all of
the
> particles and ppm tests are identical...with a coffee filter the ppm
readings
> can be quite different.
>
> Dave Perkins wrote:
>
> > Thanks Alvin, it sounds like a simple enough solution, however,  I
thought
> > letting CS come in contact with any metal was a no no.
> >
> > Dave Perkins
> > "enjoy being"
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Alvin Rose 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>New list member with a another question
> >
> > > Hi David
> > > use a ultra fine mesh stainless steel coffee filter will get
> > > rid of your problem..they are easy to buy and are available
> > > in most supermarkets where coffee machines and parts  are sold
> > >
> > > Dave Perkins wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where do you get filters that don't add any bad stuff but
effectively
> > get
> > > > rid of any "gunk".  I know there shouldn't be gunk but nobody is
> > perfect.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Dave Perkins
> > > > "enjoy being"
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: Fred 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 1:23 PM
> > > > Subject: CS>New list member with a another question
> > > >
> > > > > Third responder - coffee filters tend to ADD PPM of undesirable
stuff,
> > > > > and the "Brew Rite" brand produces photosensitive silver salts!
You
> > > > > will get a dark Cs mix if left in the sun for an hour! Guess your
> > plants
> > > > > won't care, but don't drink it!
> > > > >
> > > > > f...@health2us.com
> > > > >
> > > > > At 03:26 AM 6/19/2000, you wrote:
> > > > > >Filtration has with some CS in the past been shown to reduce PPM.
> > > > > >James Osbourne Holmes
> > > > > >a...@trail.com
> > > > > >FTNWO
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-Original Message-
> > > > > >From:   cking...@nycap.rr.com [SMTP:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
> > > > > >Sent:   Sunday, June 18, 2000 8:05 PM
> > > > > >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > > > >Subject:Re: CS>New list member with a another question
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Don't be too quick to discard "bad batches".
> > > > > >Filter thru a coffee filter if you want to, and use it for
household
> > > > purposes.
> > > > > >Plants, garbage cans, shower curtains, etc...
> > > > > > Chuck
> > > > > >186,000 mps--it's not the law, it's just a challenge!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:14:11 -0500, Pamela Grant
> > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >I have read a few mailings that pertained to size of CS
particles.
> > I
> > > > had
> > > > > > >become concerned(not a lot, however) that my solution , at
times,
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > > > >look "healthy". Whatever I mean by that--the solution at times
> > became
> > > > > > >gray---even toward black--IF I left it running too long. Is
there
> > any
> > > > > > >danger in this that anyone knows? Or should I, when that
happens,
> > just
> > > > > > >throw out and start over--paying better attention to the time?
> > > > >
> > > > >
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>
>

CS>distilled water OT

[Dave Perkins]

Good information on distilled water - to think I used to drink this all the
time thinking it was the best water to help my cancer recovery - it was all
that I knew at the time.

Note: Chet also used to be a big proponent of distilled water

EARLY DEATH COMES FROM DRINKING DISTILLED WATER
Speaking of natural health gurus, a lot of them will also tell
you distilled water is the only water to put in your body.
Interestingly enough, most of the so-called experts telling you
this are also selling expensive distillers. Well, I drank
distilled water for something like five years and did fine with
it. But, over the years, I've corresponded with too many people
with hair loss and other possible deficiency problems who didn't
do well with distilled water long-term.

Although I still recommend distilled water for 21-day programs
and for detox periods, I no longer think it's the way to go for
the rest of your life. It was nice to see some confirmation of
my thinking from a medical doctor who specializes in natural
health.

Check out his article on the dangers of distilled water at:

http://chetday.com/distilledwater.htm

---


Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"



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Re: CS>distilled water OT

[Dave Perkins]

mama2bear

I agree that R/O water is probably better than distilled, however, because
virtually everything is removed it is essentially "dead water" so you may
want to investigate long term use further.

Sang Whang writes in his book "Reverse Aging"
 "In an attempt to get "pure" water, some people promote distillers and
reverse (R/O) filters.  While these devices work well, they take everything
out of the water.  Unfortunately, this "pure" water is not healthy.  It's
dead water.  Fish cannot live in it.  If ingested for long periods of time,
it can leach out valuable body minerals, such as potassium, magnesium,
sodium and calcium.  One can take mineral supplements to replace them;
however, it's not as easy to replace the minerals in our body in the same
form that we lost them in."

Additionally, I understand that it takes about ten gallons of water to
produce one gallon of R/O water, quite a waste when you consider long term
use.

R/O water usually tests about 6.8pH which is on the  acidic side (pH7 being
"neutral") - remember pH is a logarithmic scale (like the Richter scale for
measuring earthquakes) so .2 is a more substantial difference than might be
apparent.  Water with a pH of 6 is TEN times more acid than water with a pH
of 7.

Much of this information was not apparent, or not made apparent, in the
promotion of distillers and R/O units as an answer to our water quality
concerns.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: CS>distilled water OT


> In a message dated 06/21/2000 13:35:52 Central Daylight Time,
> dperk...@betterwayhealth.com writes:
>
> << EARLY DEATH COMES FROM DRINKING DISTILLED WATER >>
> We know tap water is unsafe.  So is bottled.  Now it's distilled.  What's
the
> answer.  I found out when I worked in water and wastewater management.
Had
> an r/o (reverse osmosis) unit installed in my kitchen years ago.  Cleans
the
> tap water like a dialysis machine cleans the blood.  Tastes good, too.
99%+
> pure.  No discernible TDS or taste/odor.  Cost under $500.  Replace the
> filter annually for $50.  Worth every cent.
>
> mama2bear
>
>
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Re: CS>OT- Distilled water

[Dave Perkins]

Terry

Thanks for your information.  It sound well founded, however, there seems to
be mounting "evidence" from quite a few sources, that don't appear to have
any financial incentives, to indicate that distilled water is not the best
thing to drink over a long period of time.

A couple of observations about the points raised in your article:

> One might think that the minerals found in water would
> go directly to where they are needed, but this is not
> the case, because all minerals found in water are
> metallic/inorganic minerals from the ground which must
> first be converted by the body to organic to be
> utilized. This conversion process is very inefficient,
> from as high as 50% conversion (people with excellent
> digestion) to as low as 5% conversion (most people
> nowadays). Those inorganic minerals which are not
> converted and utilized tend to accumulate throughout
> the body, resulting in arterial plaque, kidney and
> gallstones, arthritic bone spurs, etc.

>I agree that is why I'm so excited about drinking water from the
Ionizing filters available today, they ionize the minerals native to the
water making them more available to my cells/body.  Something that I need
for my recovery.

Also, when I contacted two soda
> distributors (Coke and Pepsi) and asked them what kind
> of water they used in their product, I was informed
> that they only used the purest spring water, not
> distilled (they said that would be too expensive).

>That makes sense, it certainly doesn't add to the credibility of the
article.


 steam distillation duplicates the process that occurs
> in nature (rainwater).

=> If we consumed water just as it begins to fall from the clouds this
would seem to be true, however, "nature" seems to feel there is benefit in
letting the water gain oxygen, minerals etc. (and now unfortunately,
pollutants - not "natures" original intent I'm sure) before the living
things on earth consume it. "Live" natural water, seems to me, to be more in
keeping with what has gone on for eons in nature.


Terry, Thank you.  This is a very beneficial discussion.  if we can
enlighten each other on what we can find that is credible on something as
basic as water we soul all benefit from the "distillation" of this
knowledge.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"



- Original Message -
From: Terry Wayne 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: CS>OT- Distilled water


> Listers,
> I find myself unable to ignore the discussion of the
> pro's and con's of drinking distilled water.
>
> As an alternate opinion; During my training with Dr.
> Carey Reams' son, Eugene, another student asked him
> about the concept of distilled water leaching minerals
> from the body. He responded that this idea came from a
> misconception of how the body uses water. Water is a
> carrier in our bodies. It first is used to carry
> nutrients throughout our bodies to the locations where
> those nutrients are needed. Then it is used to carry
> metabolic waste-products and toxins from throughout
> the body to the eliminative organs to be disposed of.
> To do this, the water must be empty of all minerals
> and chemicals. If it is not, the body must first
> "distill" its own water before utilizing it, which
> consumes extra metabolic energy. This "full" and
> "empty" aspect of water can be seen when you stir
> sugar into a glass of water. The first spoonful
> dissolves and disappears into the water, but if you
> keep stirring more sugar into the water, eventually
> the sugar stops dissolving. This is because the water
> molecules have become full of sugar molecules. In the
> same way, if the water we put into our bodies is
> already full of various substances, the water will
> need to be "emptied" by the body before it can carry
> the important nutrients extracted from our food.
>
> One might think that the minerals found in water would
> go directly to where they are needed, but this is not
> the case, because all minerals found in water are
> metallic/inorganic minerals from the ground which must
> first be converted by the body to organic to be
> utilized. This conversion process is very inefficient,
> from as high as 50% conversion (people with excellant
> digestion) to as low as 5% conversion (most people
> nowadays). Those inorganic minerals which are not
> converted and utilized tend to accumulate throughout
> the body, resulting in arterial plaque, kidney and
> gallstones, arthritic bone spurs, etc.
>
> He further explained that the organic minerals found
> in the body are a part of the body, having been
> ionized into the body (the minerals are part of the
> structure

CS>OT- Distilled water

[Dave Perkins]

Terry

Thanks for your information.  It sound well founded, however, there seems to
be mounting "evidence" from quite a few sources, that don't appear to have
any financial incentives, to indicate that distilled water is not the best
thing to drink over a long period of time.

A couple of observations about the points raised in your article:

> One might think that the minerals found in water would
> go directly to where they are needed, but this is not
> the case, because all minerals found in water are
> metallic/inorganic minerals from the ground which must
> first be converted by the body to organic to be
> utilized. This conversion process is very inefficient,
> from as high as 50% conversion (people with excellent
> digestion) to as low as 5% conversion (most people
> nowadays). Those inorganic minerals which are not
> converted and utilized tend to accumulate throughout
> the body, resulting in arterial plaque, kidney and
> gallstones, arthritic bone spurs, etc.

>I agree that is why I'm so excited about drinking water from the
Ionizing filters available today, they ionize the minerals native to the
water making them more available to my cells/body.  Something that I need
for my recovery.

Also, when I contacted two soda
> distributors (Coke and Pepsi) and asked them what kind
> of water they used in their product, I was informed
> that they only used the purest spring water, not
> distilled (they said that would be too expensive).

>That makes sense, it certainly doesn't add to the credibility of the
article.


 steam distillation duplicates the process that occurs
> in nature (rainwater).

=> If we consumed water just as it begins to fall from the clouds this
would seem to be true, however, "nature" seems to feel there is benefit in
letting the water gain oxygen, minerals etc. (and now unfortunately,
pollutants - not "natures" original intent I'm sure) before the living
things on earth consume it. "Live" natural water, seems to me, to be more in
keeping with what has gone on for eons in nature.


Terry, Thank you.  This is a very beneficial discussion.  if we can
enlighten each other on what we can find that is credible on something as
basic as water we soul all benefit from the "distillation" of this
knowledge.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"



- Original Message -
From: Terry Wayne 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: CS>OT- Distilled water


> Listers,
> I find myself unable to ignore the discussion of the
> pro's and con's of drinking distilled water.
>
> As an alternate opinion; During my training with Dr.
> Carey Reams' son, Eugene, another student asked him
> about the concept of distilled water leaching minerals
> from the body. He responded that this idea came from a
> misconception of how the body uses water. Water is a
> carrier in our bodies. It first is used to carry
> nutrients throughout our bodies to the locations where
> those nutrients are needed. Then it is used to carry
> metabolic waste-products and toxins from throughout
> the body to the eliminative organs to be disposed of.
> To do this, the water must be empty of all minerals
> and chemicals. If it is not, the body must first
> "distill" its own water before utilizing it, which
> consumes extra metabolic energy. This "full" and
> "empty" aspect of water can be seen when you stir
> sugar into a glass of water. The first spoonful
> dissolves and disappears into the water, but if you
> keep stirring more sugar into the water, eventually
> the sugar stops dissolving. This is because the water
> molecules have become full of sugar molecules. In the
> same way, if the water we put into our bodies is
> already full of various substances, the water will
> need to be "emptied" by the body before it can carry
> the important nutrients extracted from our food.
>
> One might think that the minerals found in water would
> go directly to where they are needed, but this is not
> the case, because all minerals found in water are
> metallic/inorganic minerals from the ground which must
> first be converted by the body to organic to be
> utilized. This conversion process is very inefficient,
> from as high as 50% conversion (people with excellant
> digestion) to as low as 5% conversion (most people
> nowadays). Those inorganic minerals which are not
> converted and utilized tend to accumulate throughout
> the body, resulting in arterial plaque, kidney and
> gallstones, arthritic bone spurs, etc.
>
> He further explained that the organic minerals found
> in the body are a part of the body, having been
> ionized into the body (the minerals are part of the
> structure

CS>***CELEBRATION***

[Dave Perkins]

WELCOME TO MY FIRST ANNUAL . . .

*** CELEBRATION OF LIVING ***

"IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND I'M PROVING THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WRONG
EVERY DAY"

"RUMORS OF MY DEMISE WERE HIGHLY EXAGGERATED."
(My apologies to Mark Twain.)

One year ago today (after three years of conventional
"treatment")
the medical community told me that I had come to
the end of the road from my non-hodgkins t-cell lymphoma.  There
was nothing left medically for them to do.

To those of you who may be wondering "Who is this guy?" - please
excuse my enthusiasm and my intrusion onto your computer screen.

I'll be brief, however, I'll warn you - I intend to include you
in these celebrations, annually, for the next 50 years or so.
(Tell me if you don't want to be kept posted on my survival)

You are receiving this because all of you are in my address book,
which contains:

- Loved ones
- Dear friends
- Casual acquaintances
- Cancer support group comrades
- Beginning business contacts
- Fellow seekers of recovery and vigorous good health who have
been great sources of inspiration and information from some
wonderful "lists"
- and. . . (quite frankly) some of you whom I've communicated
  with in the past and can't recall why.

Thank all of you for being a part of my life!

As a result of  my good fortune to survive this Cancer, and the
associated "treatment" (for 3 of the 4 years), I am now well
enough to have started a web site.  I want to provide products,
protocols and information that helped me and hopefully will help
others who face health challenge(s).
and. . .
those who are just interested in better understanding how move
toward an optimal state of vigorous good health

Here's My Story: (with my "before" and "after" pictures).
http://www.betterwayhealth.com/cancer-survivor.asp
(longer version available if interested)

My Site:
http://www.betterwayhealth.com/default.asp
(just getting started and growing every day -"you ain't seen
nutin yet")

For those of you who are still with me. . . here are some words
that
do a good job of describing how I how feel:


I want to say something to all of you
who have become a part
of the fabric of my life.

The color and texture
which you have brought into my being
have become a song
and I want to sing it forever.

There is an energy in us
which makes things happen
when the paths of other persons
touch ours
and we have to be there
and let it happen.

When the time
of our particular sunset comes,
our things, our accomplishments,
won't really matter a great deal.

But the clarity and care
with which we have loved others
will speak with vitality
of the great gift of life
we have been for each other.


Gregory Norbet O.S.B


Thank all of you for being part of my Celebration!

I am as close as your keyboard or telephone, please use them, to
contact me if there is anything you think I can do to help you,
or someone you know, to regain health or to help move toward more
optimum health.

Love and Good Health to All
Thanks,

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
TOLL FREE 1.877.461.4463
Atlanta GA area 678.560.1808
Fax 678.560.1487




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Re: CS>***CELEBRATION***

[Dave Perkins]

Thank you MAMA



Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS>***CELEBRATION***


> In a message dated 06/25/2000 19:05:39 Central Daylight Time,
> dperk...@betterwayhealth.com writes:
>
> << http://www.betterwayhealth.com/cancer-survivor.asp >>
>
> Dave,
> Wo hooo!   Celebrating with you!
>
>
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Re: CS>56 MEN

[Dave Perkins]

Thanks Bill
I'm very grateful for the information.  I had never known.

It is definitely something to reflect upon not only on the 4th
but throughout our lives while we live in this country.


Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com


- Original Message -
From: BILL D 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 1:46 PM
Subject: CS>56 MEN


> Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed
the Declaration
> of Independence?
> Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and
tortured before
> they died.
> Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their
sons serving in
> the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.
> Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the
Revolutionary
> War.
> They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and
their sacred
> honor. What kind of men were they?
> Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants,
nine were
> farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well
educated.
> But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full
well that the
> penalty would be death if they were captured.
> Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw
his ships swept
> from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and
properties to pay
> his debts, and died in rags.
> Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced
to move his
> family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without
pay, and his
> family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him,
and poverty
> was his reward.
> Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall,
Clymer, Walton,
> Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
> At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr., noted that the
British General
> Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters.
> He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The
home was
> destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
> Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy
jailed his
> wife, and she died within a few months.
> John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying.
Their 13
> children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill
were laid to
> waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves,
returning home to
> find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later
he died from
> exhaustion and a broken heart.
> Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the
stories and
> sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not
wild-eyed,
> rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and
education.
> They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall,
straight,
> and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this
declaration, with
> firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we
mutually pledge
> to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
> They gave you and me a free and independent America. The
history books never
> told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We
didn't fight
> just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we
fought our own
> government!
> Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we
shouldn't. So,
> take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and
silently thank
> these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.
Remember:
> freedom is never free!
> I hope you will show your support by sending this to as many
people as you
> can. It's time we get the word out that patriotism is NOT a
sin, and the
> Fourth of July has more to it than beer, picnics, and baseball
games.
> The doorway to freedom is framed in muskets!
>


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Re: CS>***CELEBRATION***marshall

[Dave Perkins]

A GROSS omission on my part.  I have made and used it since being
introduced to it by Richard Thomas, a long time list member,
around Sept '99.

Thank you Marshall for the email and for all the information you
have provided to me and others on this list.

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com


- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: CS>***CELEBRATION***


> Wow, what a recovery.  I am wondering, since you seem to be on
the
> silver-list, why CS was not part of your cure?
>
> Marshall
>
> Dave Perkins wrote:
>
> > WELCOME TO MY FIRST ANNUAL . . .
> >
> > *** CELEBRATION OF LIVING ***
> >
> > "IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND I'M PROVING THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WRONG
> > EVERY DAY"
> >
> > "RUMORS OF MY DEMISE WERE HIGHLY EXAGGERATED."
> > (My apologies to Mark Twain.)
> >
> > One year ago today (after three years of conventional
> > "treatment")
> > the medical community told me that I had come to
> > the end of the road from my non-hodgkins t-cell lymphoma.
There
> > was nothing left medically for them to do.
> >
> > To those of you who may be wondering "Who is this guy?" -
please
> > excuse my enthusiasm and my intrusion onto your computer
screen.
> >
> > I'll be brief, however, I'll warn you - I intend to include
you
> > in these celebrations, annually, for the next 50 years or so.
> > (Tell me if you don't want to be kept posted on my survival)
> >
> > You are receiving this because all of you are in my address
book,
> > which contains:
> >
> > - Loved ones
> > - Dear friends
> > - Casual acquaintances
> > - Cancer support group comrades
> > - Beginning business contacts
> > - Fellow seekers of recovery and vigorous good health who
have
> > been great sources of inspiration and information from some
> > wonderful "lists"
> > - and. . . (quite frankly) some of you whom I've communicated
> >   with in the past and can't recall why.
> >
> > Thank all of you for being a part of my life!
> >
> > As a result of  my good fortune to survive this Cancer, and
the
> > associated "treatment" (for 3 of the 4 years), I am now well
> > enough to have started a web site.  I want to provide
products,
> > protocols and information that helped me and hopefully will
help
> > others who face health challenge(s).
> > and. . .
> > those who are just interested in better understanding how
move
> > toward an optimal state of vigorous good health
> >
> > Here's My Story: (with my "before" and "after" pictures).
> > http://www.betterwayhealth.com/cancer-survivor.asp
> > (longer version available if interested)
> >
> > My Site:
> > http://www.betterwayhealth.com/default.asp
> > (just getting started and growing every day -"you ain't seen
> > nutin yet")
> >
> > For those of you who are still with me. . . here are some
words
> > that
> > do a good job of describing how I how feel:
> >
> > I want to say something to all of you
> > who have become a part
> > of the fabric of my life.
> >
> > The color and texture
> > which you have brought into my being
> > have become a song
> > and I want to sing it forever.
> >
> > There is an energy in us
> > which makes things happen
> > when the paths of other persons
> > touch ours
> > and we have to be there
> > and let it happen.
> >
> > When the time
> > of our particular sunset comes,
> > our things, our accomplishments,
> > won't really matter a great deal.
> >
> > But the clarity and care
> > with which we have loved others
> > will speak with vitality
> > of the great gift of life
> > we have been for each other.
> >
> > Gregory Norbet O.S.B
> >
> > Thank all of you for being part of my Celebration!
> >
> > I am as close as your keyboard or telephone, please use them,
to
> > contact me if there is anything you think I can do to help
you,
> > or someone you know, to regain health or to help move toward
more
> > optimum health.
> >
> > Love and Good Health to All
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave Perkins
> > "enjoy being"
> >
> > email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
> > TOLL FREE 1.877.461.4463
> > Atlanta GA area 678.560.1808
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Re: CS>Alkaline water

[Dave Perkins]

Marshall

I'll state the obvious, since it is on my site.  I have. I think
he presents the information quite intelligently.

His basic premise is that if the toxins of everyday living aren't
adequately flushed out of  the cells; over the years this is what
causes our cells (us) to age.

i.e..pg.14 "Reverse Aging" Sang Whang writes: "The waste products
that we do not discard completely must be stored within our body
somewhere.  the process of aging, which starts from the very
beginning of our life, is the accumulation of these non-disposed
waste products"

and...Pg. 26 "The best kind of water for this function is
acid-free alkaline water, the water that neutralizes harmful
acids and disposes of them safely while it does not leach out
valuable alkaline minerals such as potassium, magnesium, sodium,
calcium"

"The device necessary to make the acid-free alkaline water is
called a water ionizer"

The information in this book, along with some others, such as
"The Calcium Factor" was what influenced me to include this water
as an important part of my cancer recovery.

I know there has been quite a lot of discussion on the list about
the relative merits of "pure water" (distilled and R/O) for
drinking.  The points raised have led me to further investigate
the claims made on each side.  I haven't had time to respond with
a responsible answer but I will shortly.  The discussion is great
it should  give everyone facts to weigh for themselves to decide
what is best for them.

For me, if for no other reason than distilled and R/O water test
out on the acidic side of neutral, (You must alkalize your cells
to adequately flush out toxins that cause acidity in the cell) I
feel that Ionized Alkaline water is the best for me.

I encourage all of you to read the book Amazon has it or you can
order it from my site (below).

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com



- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 3:08 PM
Subject: CS>Alkaline water


> Has anyone read this book?
>
> http://www.betterwayhealth.com/reverse-aging-book.asp
>
> Marshall
>
>
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Re: CS>Content?

[Dave Perkins]

JAMES

I appreciate your time constraints, however, I have really gained
a lot of information and enjoyed the discussions immensely
(especially since I willingly have participated).  It has been
particularly "lively" lately as you note, and , in my opinion, a
great adjunct to a total approach to healing and health that CS
is a part of.

 Would be helpful to folks such as you if we put OT (off topic)
in the subject line?   It would only take a split second for you
to hit the "X" (delete) so that you would not be distracted from
your core vision, yet it would still allow others of us to expand
our knowledge so we can better incorporate CS with other
protocols.

I for one would appreciate your consideration of this "solution"
and welcome other comments.

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com





- Original Message -
From: James Allison 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 11:53 PM
Subject: CS>Content?


> Out of the approximately 62 messages posted on the silver list
today that I
> read, there were 12 or 13 that were actually CS related.  While
I am very
> interested in all the other topics, I just don't have the time
to deal with
> them right now.  As many of you know, I run a small dietary
supplement
> business.  What you may not know is that I spend about 16 hours
a day
> running it.  I was up at 5am this morning, taking care of
emails, and have
> been doing nothing all day except taking care of emails,
orders, answering
> questions, packing product, making CS generators, ordering
parts, pills,
> tablets, etc., etc., etc.  The only other things I have done
today are eat,
> drink, use the restroom, and read this list.  I do this every
single day, 16
> hours a day, 7 days a week.  It is almost 9pm now and soon my
day will end
> (thank goodness).  This list is one of the few joys that I
allow myself at
> this point in time, because I am very dedicated to building a
future for my
> son and daughter where they won't be limited because of their
monetary
> situation.  And I understand that in order to do so takes
commitment and
> sacrafice.  But that's okay, because my family deserves the
benefits that it
> will bring.  It all goes back to you get out of life what you
give, ying and
> yang, and all sorts of other parables that I'm just to darn
tired to think
> of!
>
> I am telling you this so you know where I'm coming from when I
say that I
> JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME for the extra stuff!
>
> I have dedicated the past few years of my life to getting the
word out about
> colloidal silver and it's benefits, and this list has been a
learning center
> for me, as well as an additional way for me to help spread my
little
> knowledge to those who care to read it.  I am going to be very
disappointed
> if I have to leave the list again, because of all of the extra
topics that
> are so interesting that I feel compelled to read them (because
some of them
> are real gems)!  But, they are just taking up to much of my
time!  And right
> now, time is one thing that I just don't have!
>
> If I had to stop getting this list because it had generated
into a more
> general health related list, rather than staying dedicated to
the reason it
> was created, and, if I may remind all of you, the reason you
joined it, I
> would surely miss the debating, the coming together of ideas,
the help and
> support that we all give (and take), and the good feeling that
I get from
> knowing that there are a few people who I can relate to, and
others that I
> can learn from, and others that I may be able to teach and
help.
>
> What it comes down to, in a nutshell, in my opinion, is that we
really need
> to stay ON TOPIC!  Or pretty damn close to it anyways.  If
there is so much
> interest in the non CS topics, then start another list.  But
not just any
> list mind you, as those that do have the time to join it would
still want
> the camaraderie that we have here.  Here, we have "the silver
list".  What
> we now need is the "non silver list".  It would be a nice pair,
the silver
> list and the non silver list  :)
>
> Anyways, I guess one of the things I forgot to mention about
why I like this
> list so much, is that it also allows me to rant and get things
off my chest
> every once in awhile.
>
> This letter may not be about CS itself, but in my heart of
hearts, and yours
> as well, you and I all know that it's on topic.
>
> Yours in health,
> James Allison
>
>
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CS>Reply about Distilled water OT

[Dave Perkins]

WHY I NOW SAY NO TO DISTILLED WATER ONLY

By Chet Day

Paul Bragg. Norman Walker. Herbert Shelton.

I bet you recognize the names of the above three "big gun
writers" of the modern natural health and raw food movement
...(article below the next 4 paragraphs - a highly recommended
read!!!)


>From Dave Perkins:

To all on the CS list.  I know most of you are probably favorably
predisposed to distilled water...and as far as I know it is still
the only water to consider in making CS.  I certainly use it when
I make my CS.

However, it appears that much of the information on the benefits
(or lack of problems with long term use) of distilled water was
written many years ago and has been passed on as fact with little
modification ever since.  In light of more recent findings many
of those claims appear to be in error.

Not for the sake of argument, but for the sake of your present
and future health, I urge you to read the following information
by Chet Day and references by other MD's etc. Many of whom
(especially Chet ) used to be big proponents of distilled water.

I hope this gives you enough information and facts to make a well
reasoned personal decision:


WHY I NOW SAY NO TO DISTILLED WATER ONLY

By Chet Day


Paul Bragg. Norman Walker. Herbert Shelton.

I bet you recognize the names of the above three "big gun
writers" of the modern natural health and raw food movement.
Each of these men advocated a predominantly uncooked vegetarian
diet (though Walker allowed cheese and Bragg allowed occasional
meat or fish), and each also advocated distilled water as the
only kind of water to drink.

It's amazing to me how blindly most health seekers follow the
advice of the above three gurus as well as the advice of modern
health writers who use Bragg, Walker, and Shelton as their main
sources of truth.

Indeed, if you spend more than about ten minutes reading many
modern natural health writers, you'll quickly learn that all
serious health seekers should shun any kind of water other than
distilled water. Why? Because Paul Bragg, Norman Walker, and
Herbert Shelton said so.

Well, I bought into this commonly-accepted "truth" back in 1993
when I started my health journey, and I continued to buy into it
for more than five years before I started to question its
validity. I started to question the value of drinking distilled
water for the long-term when I finally opened my eyes enough to
realize I was relying on information that was, in most cases,
more than 50 years old.

Let me say here that I still consider distilled water the water
of choice when detoxing or working to heal a serious health
challenge. To quote Dr. Zoltan Rona, who feels the same way:

"Distillation is the process in which water is boiled,
evaporated and the vapour condensed. Distilled water is free of
dissolved minerals and, because of this, has the special
property of being able to actively absorb toxic substances from
the body and eliminate them. Studies validate the benefits of
drinking distilled water when one is seeking to cleanse or
detoxify the system for short periods of time (a few weeks at a
time). Fasting using distilled water can be dangerous because of
the rapid loss of electrolytes (sodium, potassium, chloride) and
trace minerals like magnesium, deficiencies of which can cause
heart beat irregularities and high blood pressure. Cooking foods
in distilled water pulls the minerals out of them and lowers
their nutrient value."

See http://chetday.com/distilledwater.htm for the full text of
Dr. Rona's article.

I opened my eyes because about two years ago I started hearing
from long-term distilled water drinkers who had been consuming
only distilled water and who had developed troubles with their
hair either thinning or falling out in clumps. I've subsequently
learned that hair loss is a condition often associated with
various mineral deficiencies.

Since I'd been advised by a serious natural health student whose
opinions I value very much that distilled water might well
contribute to such problems, I started telling people with
hair problems that they might try going back to filtered water
or bottled water to see if doing so wouldn't help resolve the
symptoms. Interestingly enough, many reported that their hair
loss problems improved when they stopped drinking distilled
water.

Digging deeper, I started reading more carefully the advice of
natural health experts who weren't necessarily coming out of
the raw food and Natural Hygiene schools of health, and I
couldn't find a single one of them who recommended distilled
water as the water of choice.

Yes, all of these experts advocated drinking lots of water --
at least eight full glasses of water every day -- and all of
them said a good filtered or bottled water was just fine. For
example, I know Lorraine Day, MD, (no relation) doesn't advocate
distilled water and neither does the Iranian medical docto

Re: CS>Introduction

[Dave Perkins]

Marsha

I'd like to hear your complete story.

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com


- Original Message -
From: Marsha Hallett 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Introduction


>
> > Hi. I have just begun studying CS and am grateful to find
this list. I was
> > recently diagnosed with Lyme Disease, candida, CFIDS, liver
toxicity,
> > mycoplasma, hypothyroidism, depression and more. I also have
Type II
> > diabetes. My alternative doctor wants me to take 400mg of
doxycycline per
> > day for 30 days to battle the lyme, but I'm worried about my
toxic liver.
> I
> > want to take CS and collostrum, and do parasite and liver
cleanses, and
> also
> > use a zapper (Is the zapper overkill if I'm already using
CS?).
> > > If I don't take the antibiotics, am I putting myself at
risk for
> life-long
> > lyme? I don't even know how long I've had it. If the lyme is
pretty new,
> can
> > the CS knock it out the way antibiotics supposedly do?
> > > Thanks for any help. I hope I'm on topic, I am brand new to
the list.
> > > Katie
>
> Dear Katie, Hi! I`m Marsha, in Vallejo, CA. Welcome!!
> I`m a "been-there, suffered that" former Lymie. In my
experience, Doxy is
> very dangerous. It kept me alive, barely, for nearly 6 years,
but it made me
> gain a lot of weight, in spite of not eating any more than
normal. I got a
> nasty rash on my arm from the sun, inside the car! Good thing I
wasn`t
> outside or no telling what would`ve happened!
>  CS stopped my Lyme once and for all. I still use it, and even
my pets have
> benefitted from it. It even stopped the depression, which is a
symptom of
> Lyme!
> Candida will be affected by CS also.
>  I haven`t used the Zapper myself, but others report good
things with it.
>  If I were you, I`d start with CS alone, just to see exactly
which is
> working. Add on the other stuff if necessary.
>  If you do have parasites, CS will only stop the ones with
one-celled
> stages.
> Diabetes can be helped with Vanadium, an element that isn`t
present in food
> anymore, as the farm soils are depleted. Look for a
vitamin-mineral
> supplement which has it in there. Sure has helped me! I`ve been
taking VM
> supplements faithfully now for the last 2 1/2 years. No
diabetes, in spite
> of my age (48), weight
> (way high) and all. My blood is perfect!  Even my hair color
has returned.
> Potassium will help high blood pressure, if that is a concern.
> Dontcha wish docs would learn nutrition??!!
>  I hope this has helped, please keep us posted on how you do,
believe me, we
> do care!!
> God`s blessings on you,
> Marsha
> PS, let me know if you`d like to hear my complete story.
>
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Re: CS>Urinary Infections

[Dave Perkins]

Ice cream always helps me too when I'm more than usually pissed
off.
:0)


Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
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- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: CS>Urinary Infections


> Hi  Ya"all;
>
> Another anecdotal CS success. Yesterday noon I walked my Great
Pyrenees
> dog 100+ pounds and she squatted 8 times to urinate. Again at 3
ppm the
> same thing so I fixed her a dish with 3 teaspoons of ice cream
and 4 oz
> of 9 ppm CS. by 8 pm the frequency  of urination had deceased
to three,
> so I fixed her another disk. This morning things were back to
normal.
> Gave her another for good measure.
>
> "Ole Bob"
>
>
>
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CS>Mr. Tracy [OT]

[Dave Perkins]

I'm sure Frances is perfectly capable of answering your question,
however, let me give you my answer also:

Mr., Tracy was a former, very active member, of the "old rife
list" who graciously stepped aside when the pure researchers
found the "extraneous" non rife information too distracting to
their work.

In my opinion,
Mr. Tracy is just an ordinary mortal who must have eight heads
(to store all the information he knows) sixteen arms to perform
all the healing protocols (many of which I know take some labor)
that he does, and a "pause" button on time so he squeezes at
least 72  productive hours out of  the 24 allotted to the rest of
us in each day - the only way I can explain how he manages to
answer every question posed to him in a [usually] well documented
way "with 8x10 glossy pictures with arrows pointing to the scene
of the crime" and still has time left over to offer additional
information on many things you really need to know but may not
easily understand.

He has been a source of a inspiration and knowledge to me (and
I'm sure others) for this generous sharing of what he knows.

In spite of all this he seems like a pretty cool guy.

Check him out for yourself @
http://egroups.com/group/Mr_Tracys_Corner

Note: I receive no financial incentive etc. for so blatantly
"shilling" for Mr. Tracy - although I'd like to :0) - he's quite
a valuable commodity in my opinion.

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com



- Original Message -
From: Katie Jay 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Introduction


> Dear Frances,
> Who is Mr. Tracy?
> Thanks.
> Katie
>
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Re: CS>effect of distillation on PPM?

[Dave Perkins]

Marshall

I assume, by this logic, that the ideal PPM for the most stable
but efficacious CS would be well made CS around 10 PPM?

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com

- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: CS>effect of distillation on PPM?


> When making the CS we have found that once you get to a certain
ppm, 10 or so,
> that the number of paticles do not increase with concentration,
but the size of
> the particles do.  Using this technique, you may find a similar
limit, or may
> not.  One would need to do some testing to be sure.
>
> Marshall
>
> Arnold Beland wrote:
>
> > This being the case and starting with very pure water, could
we not use the
> > process for making a concentrated form of CS?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Marshall Dudley 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 7:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>effect of distillation on PPM?
> >
> > > 10 ppm.
> > >
> > > Marshall
> > >
> > > Arnold Beland wrote:
> > >
> > > > If I start with let us say 5PPM and distill off
(evaporate?) 50% of the
> > CS,
> > > > what will be the PPM of the remainder?
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > >
> > > > Arnold
> > > >
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Re: CS>Mr. Tracy [OT]

[Dave Perkins]

He's alive and well and his list resides at
http://egroups.com/group/Mr_Tracys_Corner


Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
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- Original Message -


From: Stephen Hessler 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Mr. Tracy [OT]


> What happened to Tracy?  I have subscribed to his list but get
no posts.
> h...@mcmo.net
> I found out that someone gave me the kak worm and have taken
steps to delete
> it.  Sorry for any problems it may have caused you.
>
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Re: CS>GERDS

[Dave Perkins]

Sleeping with the upper torso slightly elevated using a foam
wedge or just a book or two under the front legs of the bed frame
bring relief to many at night.  Gravity helps to discourage the
reflux of stomach acid which irritates the esophagus.  I thought
I was having a heart attack(s) too since the sympathetic pain
radiated out into my chest and down my left arm (it was hard to
tell where the pain left off and the anxiety took over).
Decreasing my alcohol intake, especially at bed time, (choco late
also aggravates the condition) gave the irritated tissue time to
heal.

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
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- Original Message -
From: Bonnie Schmidlkofer 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 12:13 AM
Subject: CS>GERDS


> GERDS is caused by a weakness of the muscle at the end
> of the esophagus, where it empties into the stomach.
> Normally, after food or drink is swallowed, this
> muscle closes tightly to stop anything from going back
> up into the esophagus.  When this muscle becomes weak,
> gastric juices are allowed back into the esophagus,
> which causes severe pain as it contacts the delicate
> mucus membranes and burns through them into
> unprotected tissue.
>
> There are no exercises which will strengthen this
> muscle.  Anyone with GERDS attempting to do situps
> will probably experience excruciating pain, as the
> tightening of the abdominal muscles would push against
> the stomach and, in a reclining position, make it even
> easier for gastric juices to go past the weak valve
> and up into the esophagus.
>
> I had GERDS, and at times thought I was having a heart
> attack, the pain in my chest was so bad.  There is a
> relatively new procedure, using laparoscopy, which
> makes repairing this problem feasible.  A portion of
> the top of the stomach is gathered around the bottom
> of the esophagus and stitched into place to assist the
> weak muscle.  I had this procedure done 6 years ago
> and have not had any reflux discomfort since.  I can
> eat anything, at any time, and can sleep in a flat bed
> once again.  This surgery has the added benefit (for
> me anyway) of reducing the size of the stomach, so I
> lost some weight.  Gained it all back, of course, but
> it was glorious to be slender for a while again.
>
> Bonnie
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CS>Fw: CS>What I'm trying for Lyme

[Dave Perkins]

Katie Jay wrote .
 6. MCN3 ( I think that's what it's called. It causes
your system to at least double their number of T-cells. This
product is used by cancer patients and other very sick people.
(Found in health food stores.)

  I think you mean MGN 3, it is very expensive, ask about ARA6 by
Natures Plus - it is supposed to be essentially the same thing
but quite a lot less expensive.

Beta 1,3 D Glucans are the best way I know to "tune up" your
immune system so that you get it working at its most effective
(and appropriate) level.


Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: Katie Jay 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>What I'm trying for Lyme


Hi Marshall,

The rebounder is a trampoline. Several people have mentioned it
to me and I could use the low impact exercise anyway.

The parasite cleanse is the herbal one recommended by Dr. Clark
and others. It includes wormwood, cloves, and black walnut.

Do you think I should add a magnetic pulser to my plan? I will
read the sites, but would appreciate you input.

Thanks for giving your feedback!!
Katie
  - Original Message -
  From: Marshall Dudley
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 8:11 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>What I'm trying for Lyme


  Katie Jay wrote:
Welcome, Chris. I have Lyme disease and am just beginning to
treat it. I have researched many things and have decided to try
the following things to start with: 1.  An alkaline-based diet,
which creates an environment in which bacteria can't thrive.
excellent idea.

 2.  A Zapper, based on Dr. H. Clark's model.

yes.

 3.  Colloidal Silver, home made.

yes.

 4.  Use a rebounder to get the Lyme out of the lymph nodes
(they like to hide there and avoid the CS, and a rebounder keeps
the lymphatic system moving!)

Is this the same thing as a magnetic pulsar?  Essential if it
has gotten into the lymph system.

 5.  Parasite cleanse. Parasites are very common and make
people very unwell. Getting rid of the parasites will improve my
overall health, which will improve my ability to fight disease.

Is this the zapper?  Also very good.

If you add ozonated water to this then you have the Beck 4
step protocol, which has apparently cured many a lyme, including
my sisters.  See http://rarebooks.net/back ,
http://www.sota-inc.com , and
http://www.explorepub.com/articles/beck/hiv_article.html   for
more information on the Beck protocol.
 6. MCN3 ( I think that's what it's called. It causes
your system to at least double their number of T-cells. This
product is used by cancer patients and other very sick people.
(Found in health food stores.)

  That is a new one on me.
  Marshall




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Re: CS>Fw: CS>What I'm trying for Lyme

[Dave Perkins]

Katie wrote: > Beta 1,3 D Glucans are the best way I know to
"tune up" your
> > immune system so that you get it working at its most
effective
> > (and appropriate) level.
> >
>
> Thanks, Dave. What are Beta 1,3??? The same as MGN3 or a
different
> thing?
>
> In ignorance ;o)
> Katie
>
>
A good question - ("ignorance" is what display when you don't
ask)

Different; the Beta-1, 3-D Glucan "potentiate" the macrophages so
that the whole "cascade" of immune response becomes "all that it
can be".  By this process it should enhance any other protocols
and products that are used to help the immune system.

Beta Glucan Health Benefits:
Beta-1, 3-D glucan works by activating the immune cells known as
macrophages.  Macrophages trap and consume foreign substances
that do not belong in the body.   By potentiating the macrophage,
beta glucan can provide the following benefits:

Preventative nutrition
Tissue regeneration and repair
Protection against radiation
Anti-neoplastic effect
Potent anti-oxidant properties
Beta-1, 3-D glucan is a powerful anti-oxidant - a free radical
scavenger.  It is a natural radioprotective compound.  It causes
phagocytes to scavenge debris and cellular breakdown caused by
radiation.  Some forms of radiation that your immune system can
protect you from is airline travel, X-rays, mammograms, high
tension power lines, proximity to nuclear facilities, computer
terminals and UV rays from the sun.

Beta glucan enhanced macrophages can also help regenerate and
repair tissue, thus, speeding up the recovery of damaged tissue.

This compound also has adjuvant effects.  Beta-1, 3-D glucan
helps other substances like antibiotics, antifungals and
antiparasitics to work better in the body.  Another important
effect it has on the body is the anti-neoplastic effect.
Beta-1, 3-D glucan makes the macrophages recognize and destroy
mutated cells.   P. Mansell, M.D. of the McGill University Cancer
Research Center stated, "Glucan was found to be an effective drug
in inducing macrophage-mediated destruction in malignant lesions
in animals and humans."
 Causes and Conditions of
Immune Compromise:
 AIDS and HIV
 Allergy
 Athletic Training
 Bacterial Infection
 Bronchitis
 Cancer
 Candidiasis
 Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
 Chronic Infection
 CMV Virus
 Common Cold
 Diabetes
 Emphysema
 Epstein-Barr Virus
 Fungal Infection
 Herpes
 Mononucleosis
 Old Age
 Parasitic Infection
 Peridontal disease
 Pneumonia
 Poor nutrition
 Radiation
 Stress
 Surgery
 Viral Infection

 It is important to take pure (fats removed) Beta Gulcans of the
proper molecular size (<1 micron)
in high enough doses (theraputic:approximately 500mg per 50lbs.
body wt.; maintenance about 1/4 the theraputic dose) to have the
desired effect.



Thanks,

Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: Katie Jay 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Fw: CS>What I'm trying for Lyme


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Re: CS>Oh, just what I needed...

[Dave Perkins]

Marsha

Please consider making sure your "body terrain" is not hospitable
to cancer:

DETOXIFY to remove normal waste products accumulated daily, plus
remove toxins accumulated in your body from your environment,
prescription drugs and unnatural foods.



 OXYGENATE your body; since cancer and many other illnesses
cannot survive in an oxygenated environment.



 ALKALIZE  YOUR BODY PH - from acidic to alkaline pH, because
cancer and many other illnesses cannot live in alkaline
conditions.  Alkaline is the "normal" state of healthy persons.



 ENHANCE YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM to maximize your body's  ability to
fight off  disease and heal itself.


Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: James Allison 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Oh, just what I needed...


> Marsha, if you want to try some apricot kernels, let me know,
I'll send you
> a pound, gratis, except for shipping.  From what people have
told me, they
> will help destroy cancer very effectivly.  Just let me know.
>
> Yours in health,
> James Allison
>
> -
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> And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Marsha Hallett 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Oh, just what I needed...
>
>
> > Dear Listers,
> > I just found out my wonderful soon-to-be-ex has given me the
gift that
> keeps
> > on giving...
> > I have HPV, or Human Papilloma Virus, an STD, which causes
cervical
> cancer.
> > I do have cell changes in this, the second, Pap smear.
> > I`m gonna shoot some good old CS up there, and see what
happens!
> > I`ll keep you all posted...
> > Marsha, still in Vallejo.
> >
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Re: CS>Fw: CS>What I'm trying for Lyme

[Dave Perkins]

Janet

There is some excellent research showing beneficial effects at
3mg (I assume you meant mg not ml) up to 10mg. HOWEVER these
results were from research with these doses on Leghorn chicks and
Cotton mice. Quite a bit lighter than most humans I know.

I posted some information in response to Katie's question, here
is an excerpt that may partly answer your question:

 It is important to take pure (fats removed) Beta Gulcans
of the
proper molecular size (<1 micron)
in high enough doses (therapeutic:approximately 500mg per 50lbs.
body wt.; maintenance about 1/4 the therapeutic dose) to have the
desired effect.

I have an excellent source (I represent the manufacturer) of Beta
Glucans that meet the above criterion.  These doses have been
established by research on humans not mice and chicks.

Anyone is encouraged to contact me off list for ordering etc.

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: Janet Lubart 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Fw: CS>What I'm trying for Lyme


> Does anyone know or  understand the discrepancy and controversy
between the
> beta glucan  companies, doses and prices. Soleray, NSC-24, and
MacroForce
> all say that their product is most effective and their
suggested doses range
> from 2.5 ml to over 100ml.
> Thanks.
> -Original Message-
> From: Katie Jay 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Fw: CS>What I'm trying for Lyme
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> Beta 1,3 D Glucans are the best way I know to "tune up" your
> >> immune system so that you get it working at its most
effective
> >> (and appropriate) level.
> >>
> >
> >Thanks, Dave. What are Beta 1,3??? The same as MGN3 or a
different
> >thing?
> >
> >In ignorance ;o)
> >Katie
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Re: Beta-1,3-D glucan

[Dave Perkins]

MAMA

I have it - response posted to you off list.

Thanks,

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- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 12:56 PM
Subject: CS>Re: Beta-1,3-D glucan


> In a message dated 07/08/2000 9:53:58 Central Daylight Time,
> dperk...@betterwayhealth.com writes:
>
> <<
>  Beta-1, 3-D glucan works by activating the immune cells known
as
>  macrophages.  Macrophages trap and consume foreign substances
>  that do not belong in the body.  >>
>
> So where do I get it?
>
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Re: CS>heavy metal

[Dave Perkins]

I think a more appropriate name for this site would be "WALLET
WATCH"

There ain't a lot of profit in effective, inexpensive,
non-propriety (read patented drugs), cures that don't involve
repeated Dr's visits.

When an outfit like this really gets after a particular product
or protocol, in many cases, it is a good sign that the subject(s)
is starting to become quite effective (and widely known), not
only in helping people actually treat the cause of the disease
but helping them avoid high medical bills.

This is not to say that the "alternative" medical field doesn't
have just as many "Quacks" as the Allopathic medical field.

Ultimately  we are all responsible for our own health and need to
do sufficient "due diligence" before choosing any therapy.


Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>heavy metal


> http://www.quackwatch.com/index.html
>
>
> * <01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html>Colloidal
Silver
> (updated 11/5/99)
>
> Someone just sent this to me. I don't know what they are saying
on this
> websiteabout colloidal silver, but if they are out to discredit
ALL forms
> of alternative medicine then it is just as well my Netscape
fails me. I
> thought some of you might want to check this out.
>
> PG
>
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Re: CS>Make your own kefir: easy

[Dave Perkins]

I mix my 4Tbs. of Flax oil in a cup of (homemade) kefir.  It
tastes good and I understand there is a synergistic effect by
taking flax with a high quality protein (cottage cheese is the
one most usually mentioned).  I hope the kefir gives me the same
effect as it is much simpler to do than the cottage cheese (that
I used to mix with the Flax.)

Thanks,

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- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 11:14 AM
Subject: CS>Make your own kefir: easy


> I make my own kefir.  It's good for the colon and serves the
same purpose as
> yogurt in fighting yeast infections.
>
> 1 qt. milk
> 1 pkg kefir starter from health food store (first time only)
>
> Heat the milk to 180F but do not boil.  Cool it down to about
75F.  Cover and
> let it sit out overnight or until it forms a curd.  Chill in
refrigerator to
> stop the action.  Put the cold milk in the blender and add
fruit or berries.
> Strawberries or peaches are good.  I like it sweet, so I add a
little corn
> syrup or fruit flavored syrup.   Serve ice cold.  Delicious and
healthful.
> I save a cup of the curdled milk to use as a starter for
the next run and
> avoid buying expensive starter.
>
> mama
>
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Re: CS>Water

[Dave Perkins]

Katie wrote: > I am supposed to increase my water consumption and
wonder what is the best
> water to drink. Dr. Hulda Clark recommends filtered tap water.
Others
> recommend reverse osmosis or distilled.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Katie


Katie

For long term consumption I would recommend that you get a good
filter and not consume either R/O or Distilled water, for reasons
that were well discussed on the list a few weeks ago.  Not
everyone agreed with this - imagine people disagreeing - and on
this list of all places.

I will be happy to direct you to some infromation supporting the
above if you contact me off list.

I used to use distilled water in my recovery from non hodgkins
lymphoma until I became convinced it wasn't the best thing for me
over a long term basis (it is Acidic and has no Oxygen).

I now drink Ionized Alkaline Water for the health benefits
associated with the ionized minerals, the increased availability
of oxygen, the altered structure that allows the cells to more
easily absorb this water and , especially, because it helps to
keep my body in an alkaline condition (Cancer and most disease
don't like alkaline and oxygenated conditions) without having to
rob calcium from my system to buffer acidic buildup.

Please visit my site (below) for more details on Ionized Alkaline
Water.

Thanks Katie

Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: Katie Jay 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 1:58 PM
Subject: CS>Water


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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #493

[Dave Perkins]

Post your question to the bowel cleanse list
bowelcleanse-subscr...@onelist.com

They have some very knowledgeable people.


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- Original Message -
From: RichN 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 11:06 AM
Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #493


> Hi folks,
>
> Have been on list for some time but have not had a chance to
pipe in.  Now,
> I would like to pick the brain trust a bit.
>
> I just met a gal, 42 and commented on how much weight she lost
since I saw
> here last (3 years).  She eventually confided in my wife that
she has had
> chronic diarrhea for over a year. The doctors have run out of
things to
> test for. Blood & stool tests are negative. They have found no
Crones, no
> lessons and no known food allergies (she has been restricting
her diet very
> much). Probiotics have not worked.  Only strange thing is using
a barium
> test to time mouth to stool it happened in 20 minutes.  Nothing
seems to
> stick.  Normal is 4 to 6 hours and constipation is 3 to 4 days.
She has a
> busy lifestyle: mom of 5, new grandmother, travel & speaking
engagements
> and is an author.  Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> RichN
>
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Re: CS>Make your own kefir: easy

[Dave Perkins]

Edith

I think you are right.  That begs the question does kefir have
the same amt. of sulphur as cottage cheese?

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Make your own kefir: easy


> In a message dated 07/10/2000 7:09:09 AM Central Daylight Time,
> dperk...@betterwayhealth.com writes:
>
> << I understand there is a synergistic effect by
>  taking flax with a high quality protein  >>
> ***
> I thought it was the sulphur that gave the effect.  (?)
> Edith
>
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #493

[Dave Perkins]

Hugh

Why not?  Stomach upset or some other reason?

The instructions given with the L. Glutamine are to take on empty
stomach,  also I take 5grams of MSM when I take my Beta Glucans,
on empty stomach before breakfast (the MSM, being so water
soluble, helps to carry B. Glucans - which are not- through the
wall of the small intestine).

I have not had any adverse reaction to this so I am curious about
what information you might have that I need to know.

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: hughman1 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #493


> Katie,
> Yes, both. Don`t take on an empty stomach, though.
> Hugh
>
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #493

[Dave Perkins]

Thanks Hugh

What are the implications of encouraging the secretion of HGH?


Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: hughman1 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #493


> Dave,
> MSM makes ME nauseous without food on my stomach. The
L-Glutamine, when used
> to enhance healing and function of the digestive tract should
be taken with
> food. The empty stomach routine is for inducing the secretion
of HGH.
> Hugh
>
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>
>

Re: CS>Water

[Dave Perkins]

Your body does much better assimilating the minerals present in
your "Native" water if the water is sufficiently filtered and
then Ionized (which splits the water molecules into it's two
parts, acidic and alkaline).  The minerals are Ionized and
present in the Alkalized (also very health promoting) water and
are, because they are ionized, more available for uptake by your
body.

Sang Whang covers this quite well in his book "Reverse Aging" he
writes:
"The skeletal structure of the body is a "calcium bank".  When
the body's condition becomes too acidic, it frequently makes
compensating withdrawals of calcium from the bones, leaving them
brittle and subject to breakage" pg.62
and . . . "Prolonged usage of  alkaline water can help prevent
this disaster of the modern diet.  Ionized calcium can help to
repair the damages"  Pgs. 62, 63


Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com

- Original Message -
From: Dean T. Miller 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Water


> On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:25:01 -0700, "Katie Jay"

> wrote:
>
> >I had read that distilled water depleats the body of needed
minerals. Is
> >that not true? I am trying to sort out the water issue right
now and would
> >be interested in your opinion.
>
> If distilled water does, then so does city, bottled and other
filtered
> water.  All of them are "soft" -- having little mineral
content.
>
> I'm unaware of any research that says our bodies get many
minerals
> from well or spring water.  It might be true *if the minerals
are
> colloidal,* but I suspect most minerals from these water
sources
> aren't.
>
> -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines  (CDP, KB0ZDF)
>
>
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Re: CS>apricot kernals

[Dave Perkins]

Wrapping one in a paper table napkin (to contain the shell
fragments) placing on the counter top and tapping with a hammer
works well for me.



Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: hamilton williams 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:01 AM
Subject: CS>apricot kernals


> << I have a very basic question about apricot kernels - how
> do you get them out of the seed shell? It's inside the hard
shell,
> right? I'd like to chew on them preventatively and it seems
like it
> would be simple, etc., but
> .
> Thanks much,
> Samantha >>
>
>   I hold the kernal upright  on a concrete floor or sidewalk
and hit it
> with a hammer. You can lay it flat ways against the floor also
, but
> this tends to disintegrate the nut.
>  hamilton-
>
> hamilton williams
> hamilto...@webtv.net
>
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Re: CS>apricot kernals

[Dave Perkins]

Here's one place that sells them: http://www.zianet.com/kgriffi/
If you would like a brochure with more details, send $5.00 to:
TLC
P.O. Drawer 548
Ruidoso, NM 88345
To order apricot pits, send $12.50 per pound, plus $2.00 S&H to
the same address.

I ordered from them and got my pits.


Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: Katie Jay 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: CS>apricot kernals


> Where do you get the apricot kernels? Do you buy fresh
apricots?
>
> katie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave Perkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:36 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>apricot kernals
>
>
> > Wrapping one in a paper table napkin (to contain the shell
> > fragments) placing on the counter top and tapping with a
hammer
> > works well for me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Perkins
> > "enjoy being"
> >
> > email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
> > web site: www.betterwayhealth.com
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: hamilton williams 
> > To: 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:01 AM
> > Subject: CS>apricot kernals
> >
> >
> > > << I have a very basic question about apricot kernels - how
> > > do you get them out of the seed shell? It's inside the hard
> > shell,
> > > right? I'd like to chew on them preventatively and it seems
> > like it
> > > would be simple, etc., but
> > > .
> > > Thanks much,
> > > Samantha >>
> > >
> > >   I hold the kernal upright  on a concrete floor or
sidewalk
> > and hit it
> > > with a hammer. You can lay it flat ways against the floor
also
> > , but
> > > this tends to disintegrate the nut.
> > >  hamilton-
> > >
> > > hamilton williams
> > > hamilto...@webtv.net
> > >
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>

Re: CS>OT-DW--warning, this is about distilled water

[Dave Perkins]

Terry writes:> Oh no, she has done it again. No, she was not able
to "restrain" herself.
> Yes, it is another Pam Grant e-mail--this time on distilled
water. Nothing
> scientific--yet, just plain ole experience story.
Familiar?--then don't
> read. It's long. I'm sorry. Not highly CS related.
> _
> Terry,

Pam

Contrary to Terry's , what seemed to me, disparaging remark(s)
"leading in" to your remarks,
I appreciate the tone and content of your email; and am also
encouraging, for my benefit, a chance to express an opinion (or
question) on water without it being treated as a frivolous aside.

> Okay, try to convince me.
> At present, I am into "clustered water"---which is "evidenced"
by a
> beautiful 6-sided water molecule--as close as DR. Lorenzen
could achieve to
> the 6-sided water molecule found at the 6 "healing" waters
sites around the
> world.
>
> IN Search of TRUTH,

This is what I believe, after much study, many opinions, (and
facts) to be the most beneficial water for long term use in
helping to optimize my well being.

I hope the CS list continues to focus on being a place to find
out the latest technical information on CS production and use but
also continues to be accepting enough of some basic information
that impacts the reason (I assume) that most of us participate
i.e.. To help ourselves and others sort out the most efficacious
methods to regain and maintain optimum health .

Thanks, Pam

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com

- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: CS>OT-DW--warning, this is about distilled water


> Oh no, she has done it again. No, she was not able to
"restrain" herself.
> Yes, it is another Pam Grant e-mail--this time on distilled
water. Nothing
> scientific--yet, just plain ole experience story.
Familiar?--then don't
> read. It's long. I'm sorry. Not highly CS related.
> _
> Terry,
>
> I knew I was asking for it--now I just want to know why you are
so
> passionate about this---I was hoping you would skip over my
previous
> e-mail. Well, here we go.
>
> >>Pamela refers to her experience of feeling worse after
> >>drinking DW as a reason for concluding that DW is not
> >>good to drink.
>
> Actually, no, I did not conclude based upon just my feelings,
though you
> made that assumption. I just didn't want to get into the whole
story nor
> mention the various practitioners who agree. At this point I
don't even
> remember why I wrote it. If it was to convince people NOT to
drink DW, I
> certainly would have written something more substantive than
that. I am not
> out to convince anyone NOT to drink this. I'll have to do much
homework
> first(if I come to that conclusion). You seem to want to
convince--so here
> is what I have to say. Even in this e-mail, I am not out to
argue with
> you---as you will see. Though arguing(or should I say stating a
difference
> in opinion) does seem to be allowed here.
> _
>
> It is also called a "dead water"--seen the images taken from
under a
> microscope. I did "feel" much better when I stopped drinking
the DW and
> started consuming colloidal minerals. You are right to mention
about the
> "healing crisis". I am NOT closed minded and I HAVE considered
all that you
> have written here long before you wrote it. I don't know who is
right, and
> frankly at the time I just needed to get well again for I was
stuck in a
> city because of how I felt(couln't drive home it was so
bad)--yes, due to
> the DW(whether that was good or not...hmm--was just listening
to my
> body---perhaps the discussion should be whether or not our
bodies know what
> is best).
>
> Did I mention I was at a health conference when this escalated?
Let me get
> a little philosophical here for a moment. I was sitting in this
conference
> and I was going in and out of consciousness(with eyes wide
open---eerie).
> The speaker, a doctor, walked up to my desk where I was sitting
and
> suddenly changed the subject of what he was speaking about. He
lifted up
> the bottle of water I had in front of me(mind you, it was
labeled "spring
> water"---I had it filled with DW). He began to speak about
distilled water
> and how dangerous this water can be. All I remember is him
saying it was a
> "dead water". Life always seems to have a way of bringing me
the
> information I need when I need it most--call it luck or
whatever else you
> want. This wasn't the first time and it was unmistakably my
WAKE-UP
> call!--just when I needed it most! Has this ever happened

Re: CS>OT-DW--warning, this is about distilled water

[Dave Perkins]

It is a result of the ionization process.  If someone near you
has an Ionizing water filter you should be able to buy it for
about $2.00 / gal.  The clustered properties deteriorate over
about 48hrs. so don't get too much at one time.  Glass is the
best container and refrigeration helps preserve the properties.

Click on my site for more info.


Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

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- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: CS>OT-DW--warning, this is about distilled water


> Pam, where does one find "clustered water"?
>
> Frank in Texas
>
>
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Re: CS>Structured water

[Dave Perkins]

YES


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- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 10:32 AM
Subject: CS>Structured water


> Maybe Dave can answer this.  Does a water ionizer produce
structured
> water?
>
> Marshall
>
>
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Re: CS>OT-DW--warning, this is about distilled water

[Dave Perkins]

Excuse me Terry


Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: CS>OT-DW--warning, this is about distilled water


> No, thank you Dave. And I must stick up for Terry on one point:
>
> He did not write those words, I did in relation to some
people's response
> to what I've send this list in the past. Yes, I have restrained
myself
> considerably---and unfortunately,for many. I try not to send
unrelated CS
> material, but this does seem VERY important. I did forget to
mention that
> my experience with DW was not just based upon "feelings". My
hair turned
> gray(terribly) and I could not deal with ANY stress at all. It
would show
> up almost immediately as grid line formations all around my
eyes. Since
> giving up the exclusive consumption of DW, my hair now is back
to the
> original color and no more stress lines! Who is the
doctor--scientist who
> believed that the deficiency of minerals is at the base of all
disease? By
> the way, one doctor told me that gray hair is the deficiency of
copper.
>
> Still Searching For That Next Morsel of TRUTH,
> Pam
>
>
>
>
>
> >Terry writes:> Oh no, she has done it again. No, she was not
able
> >to "restrain" herself.
> >> Yes, it is another Pam Grant e-mail--this time on distilled
> >water. Nothing
> >> scientific--yet, just plain ole experience story.
> >Familiar?--then don't
> >> read. It's long. I'm sorry. Not highly CS related.
> >> _
> >> Terry,
> >
> >Pam
> >
> >Contrary to Terry's , what seemed to me, disparaging remark(s)
> >"leading in" to your remarks,
> >I appreciate the tone and content of your email; and am also
> >encouraging, for my benefit, a chance to express an opinion
(or
> >question) on water without it being treated as a frivolous
aside.
> >
> >> Okay, try to convince me.
> >> At present, I am into "clustered water"---which is
"evidenced"
> >by a
> >> beautiful 6-sided water molecule--as close as DR. Lorenzen
> >could achieve to
> >> the 6-sided water molecule found at the 6 "healing" waters
> >sites around the
> >> world.
> >>
> >> IN Search of TRUTH,
> >
> >This is what I believe, after much study, many opinions, (and
> >facts) to be the most beneficial water for long term use in
> >helping to optimize my well being.
> >
> >I hope the CS list continues to focus on being a place to find
> >out the latest technical information on CS production and use
but
> >also continues to be accepting enough of some basic
information
> >that impacts the reason (I assume) that most of us participate
> >i.e.. To help ourselves and others sort out the most
efficacious
> >methods to regain and maintain optimum health .
> >
> >Thanks, Pam
> >
> >Dave Perkins
> >"enjoy being"
> >
> >email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
> >web site: www.betterwayhealth.com
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Pamela Grant 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 5:47 AM
> >Subject: Re: CS>OT-DW--warning, this is about distilled water
> >
> >
> >> Oh no, she has done it again. No, she was not able to
> >"restrain" herself.
> >> Yes, it is another Pam Grant e-mail--this time on distilled
> >water. Nothing
> >> scientific--yet, just plain ole experience story.
> >Familiar?--then don't
> >> read. It's long. I'm sorry. Not highly CS related.
> >> _
> >> Terry,
> >>
> >> I knew I was asking for it--now I just want to know why you
are
> >so
> >> passionate about this---I was hoping you would skip over my
> >previous
> >> e-mail. Well, here we go.
> >>
> >> >>Pamela refers to her experience of feeling worse after
> >> >>drinking DW as a reason for concluding that DW is not
> >> >>good to drink.
> >>
> >> Actually, no, I did not conclude based upon just my
feelings,
> >though you
> >> made that assumption. I just didn't want to get into the
whole
> >story nor
> >> mention the various practitioners who agree. At this point I
> >don't even
> >> remember why I wrote it. If it was to convince people NOT to
> >drink DW, I
> >> certainly would have written something more substantive than
> >th

Re: CS>concerning water

[Dave Perkins]

Ted FYI

My alternate MD. agrees with part of your protocol, however, he
suggests a 1:1 ratio of apple cider vinegar and fresh lemon juice
for this purpose.

BUT "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: Ted Windsor 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: CS>concerning water


> In today's world of mans brilliant methods of production that
create toxic
> waste, I have found a simple solution to balance my bodies PH,
I take the juice
> of three lemons over the course of each day for 6 days and then
rest for three
> weeks, then I start again.  for me this works for others? who
knows?
> Blessings
> Ted
>
> Katie Jay wrote:
>
> > Ivan,
> >
> > I am so new to all of this. In a practical sense, if I were
going to stop
> > drinking tap water today and start drinking alkaline/ionized
water--how
> > would I go about making/buying it? I don't even know where to
begin. I don't
> > really want to purchase water if I don't have to.
> >
> > I have read a lot of conflicting information about whether it
matters if one
> > drinks/eats alkaline-forming foods. Do you have any thoughts
on that?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Katie
> >
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Re: CS=alkaline?

[Dave Perkins]

Distilled water is acidic.

- Original Message -
From: Ivan Anderson 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: CS=alkaline?


> Does that depend upon pH of starting water?
>
> Ivan.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert L. Berger" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, 16 July 2000 06:08
> Subject: Re: CS=alkaline?
>
>
> > Sorry but CS is not neutral. LVDC cs is about 5 to 5.5 pH
> >
> >
> > "Ole Bob"
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS=alkaline?

[Dave Perkins]

Bob
EDTA - I  must have missed this one-  Pls. point me to the
relative post.

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: CS=alkaline?


> Brickey,
>
> Don't expect much until at least six bottles of EDTA. I have
had over 50 and it
> has gretly help me. I have met a munber of people that have had
remarkable
> cures with it. One old codger who as legally blind from
diabetes is now driving
> his car and as 20/40 vision.  After 30 bottles they did the non
invasive blood
> flow tests and the flow rate had increased more tan 150 to 400%
in various
> parts of my body.  That test was part of the initial physical
that I received
> at the McDonagh Mediacal Center in Gladstone Mo. (Kansas City)
If you didn't
> get a very compete physical when you started then you will
never know what has
> changed.
>
> "Ole Bob"
>
>
> >
>
>
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Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss

[Dave Perkins]

Dan
This sounds like a remarkable herb, considering the Testosterone
effect, is there any information regarding the possible increased
risk of Prostate cancer?

Thanks,

Dave Perkins
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- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Holly" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss


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>
>
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>
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>
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>
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> fruit, grown in various parts of the world and used medicinally
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>
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>
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> herbalists.
>
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> Terrestris, they discovered that it significantly elevates the
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> several hormones: Testosterone; Luteinizing Hormone (LH is a
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> Hormone (FSH); and Estradiol.
>
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>
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>
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>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Katie Jay" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 1:36 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss
>
>
> > Is it safe? Are natural steroids dangerous?
> >
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> > - Original Message -
> > From

Re: CS>apricot kernals

[Dave Perkins]

Marshall
Sorry for the delay in responding - behind on my email.

I don't have a number for the below, however, here is a site that
has a number
http://www.worldwithoutcancer.com/products.html

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com


- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: CS>apricot kernals


> Do you have a phone number on these people?  Have a friend that
was just
> operated on for a brain tumor and it was cancerous.  He wants
me to get
> him some ASAP, and I don't want to wait for the mail service to
deliver
> a check.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marshall
>
> Dave Perkins wrote:
>
> > Here's one place that sells them:
http://www.zianet.com/kgriffi/
> > If you would like a brochure with more details, send $5.00
to:
> > TLC
> > P.O. Drawer 548
> > Ruidoso, NM 88345
> > To order apricot pits, send $12.50 per pound, plus $2.00 S&H
to
> > the same address.
> >
> > I ordered from them and got my pits.
> >
> > Dave Perkins
> > "enjoy being"
> >
> > email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
> > web site: www.betterwayhealth.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Katie Jay 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>apricot kernals
> >
> > > Where do you get the apricot kernels? Do you buy fresh
> > apricots?
> > >
> > > katie
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Dave Perkins" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:36 AM
> > > Subject: Re: CS>apricot kernals
> > >
> > >
> > > > Wrapping one in a paper table napkin (to contain the
shell
> > > > fragments) placing on the counter top and tapping with a
> > hammer
> > > > works well for me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dave Perkins
> > > > "enjoy being"
> > > >
> > > > email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
> > > > web site: www.betterwayhealth.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: hamilton williams 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Cc: 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:01 AM
> > > > Subject: CS>apricot kernals
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > << I have a very basic question about apricot kernels -
how
> > > > > do you get them out of the seed shell? It's inside the
hard
> > > > shell,
> > > > > right? I'd like to chew on them preventatively and it
seems
> > > > like it
> > > > > would be simple, etc., but
> > > > > .
> > > > > Thanks much,
> > > > > Samantha >>
> > > > >
> > > > >   I hold the kernal upright  on a concrete floor or
> > sidewalk
> > > > and hit it
> > > > > with a hammer. You can lay it flat ways against the
floor
> > also
> > > > , but
> > > > > this tends to disintegrate the nut.
> > > > >  hamilton-
> > > > >
> > > > > hamilton williams
> > > > > hamilto...@webtv.net
> > > > >
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Re: CS Generator--rec. needed.

[Dave Perkins]

This one gets my vote: http://www.silverpuppy.com/


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 4:44 PM
Subject: CS Generator--rec. needed.


> I am new to the list and am looking to purchase a CS maker.  I
will be living
> in the Caribbean for 2 years, if that makes a difference.
Portability and an
> auto-shut off feature necessary.  Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> John DeLuca
>
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Re: CS>No cancer!

[Dave Perkins]

THAT'S GREAT NEWS MARSHA!!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
- Original Message -
From: "Tony Moody" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>No cancer!


> Hey Marsha,
> That is really good news.
> Best wishes for the future.
> Love,
> Tony
>
> Marsha Hallett wrote:
> >
> > Dear CS usin` friends,
> > Just got the report that I have no cancer of the cervix! YAY!
I do have the
> > HPV for sure, so now I`ll start usin` CS up there...
> >  Gotta run, the hillside is on fire!
> > Love,
> > marsha
> >
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CS>Fw: water

[Dave Perkins]

I found this quite provocative.

It may be useful for perspective.  I don't pretend to understand
all that is discussed here - if it is fact or theory or a mix.  I
thought it good for stimulating thinking (very painful pursuit
sometimes).

also there appears some useful links at the bottom (cut & paste)

Not sure what the "bullshit" comment refers to.

Hope it is useful.

Dave


- Original Message -
From: "yorel" 
To: "Dave Perkins" 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:24 PM
Subject: Fw:


Dave,

This seems right down your line..

Leroy

- Original Message -
From: Brian Lynch
To: yo...@mindspring.com
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 12:55 AM


Dismissed as mere oxygen and hydrogen, water is far from trite.
It's 75 percent of our bodies, the most crucial liquid on
Earth -- the universal solvent. Water sticks to itself due to
weak electric attraction between hydrogen and oxygen in adjacent
water molecules. These hydrogen bonds hold water together to
create surface tension to allow it to form a sphere, the shape
with the least surface area.

Magnetism affects water in odd ways. Normally water's pH is
neutral due to its balance of acid (H+) to alkaline (OH-) ions.
But south pole magnetism causes water to become slightly
alkaline, while a north pole shifts pH a tad acid. This subtle
shift is critical in biological systems such as cell membranes.

In 1941 Nobel Prize winning physicist Albert Szent-Gyorgyi said
biological proteins are sufficiently organized to function as
crystal lattice, and predicted semiconduction in living tissue.
When he said this, solid state electronics was a lab curiosity,
so he was ignored by the few biologists who studied
bioelectricity. It was four decades before advanced knowledge
from solid state physics was introduced into biology.

Like a tree, a cell is a waveform, too -- a dipole antenna -- the
condensation of a spinning magnetic vortex. To exist, cells must
resonate a full harmonic range of geomagnetic frequencies.
Mitosis and meosis -- the dance of cell division -- is the pulse
and polarization of a cell's EM cycles. Cell membrane is a long
wave envelope of low frequencies in this cellular symphony.
Braided through the vortex axis, DNA is a super coiled antenna
tuned to high
frequency oscillations of short wave

Internationally famous German heart and cancer specialist Hans
Neiper, MD, says, "We've known for a long timen cancer cells, as
well as entire tumors, lose their magnetic character and become
electrically static. Entire organisms-- healthy tissues and
blood -- also undergo a loss of magnetism as an effect of
malignancy, helped by mucilage produced by the cancer. [If]
magnetism of organs and blood is lost, defenses toward cancer
decrease, since cancer cells can be devoid of any magnetic
behavior."

What causes cells to lose their magnetism? This question has no
single or simple answer. One is that earth emits geopathological
energy along with the man made EMF's which causes people to
become ill by draining their magnetic life-force. (See SOLSTICE
#37 Asleep with a Vampire). In the 1930s German physicist Paul
Dobler discovered water in underground veins radiates EM in a
narrow band which can expose film placed in light opaque
envelopes above the veins.

With this in mind we can envision our human body's EM
architecture -- already a subject of intensive macrobiotic
education. Like DNA, hair and muscle are spiral fibers, braided
and supercoiled. Iron red in hemoglobin and cobalt blue in
vitamin B12 are a magnetic waveform chalice to transport
electrons in blood and nerve. Today we confront ozone holes,
vanishing B12 and epidemic deaths of c.ancers , birth defects and
on and on! When told of this steady increasing magnetic radiation
problem, the FDA has made it mandatory law to Fortifying Grain
with B12/Folic Acid to prevent birth defects for years now!!!
Just Another way to try covering up the problem of EMF EXPOSURE
by boosting our natural defenses!

The active vitamin B12 comes in many different forms, i.e.
methyl-, cyano-, adnosyl- and hydroxocobalamin, freely
transformed into each other in the body. However, vitamin B12 in
the brain and CNS is only present as methylcobalamin, which
effectively transports methyl groups (-CH3) to proteins in the
myelin, the insulating layer which together with fatty acids
surrounds the nerve fibers, protecting DNA just like insulation
on electric cables.

B12's trace element ,cobalt -- -- is a natural magnet and hinted
at an
unknown magnetic function to form red blood cells. Scientists
recently found the highest concentration of B12 occurs -- not in
the liver, as once thought -- but in pineal tissue in the
brain.Vitamin B12 may really be a magnetic hormone!

Cobalt is a silvery, bluish-white, odorless, and magnetic metal.
The fume and dust of cobalt metal is odorless and black. Cobalt
is often alloyed with other metals due to i

Re: CS>Re:Zappers too

[Dave Perkins]

Sparrow

I have found the most convenient to use (and very effective one
is made by Don Croft

http://www.wave.net/upg/zapper/index.htm

Thanks

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com


- Original Message -
From: "Scharbach" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re:Zappers too


>
> I've seen several requests lately for advice on zappers, but no
answers.
> I've been hoping for the same info myself.
>
> Are these not getting answered or are they being answered off
list?   If so,
> will someone send me the info they've recieved, please?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sparrow
>
>
> > Even after reading about zappers, I want to know which to
buy.  Also
> > the resonating thing?  Advice and price appreciated!
> > Judith.
> >
> >
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CS>Fw: [Fwd: Fw: MAJOR VIRUS!(alert by Bell Canada)]]

[Dave Perkins]

- Original Message -
From: "Yvonne Pennington, Ph. D." 
To: "Carol Sadler" ; "callen8...@aol. com"
; "bu...@care.org" ;
; "bl...@employeegrowth.com"
; "bkit...@mindspring.com"
; "bill.crawf...@starship.no"
; "Bill Hendrick" ;
"Betty Jackson" ; "bd...@newenergyassoc. Com"
; "asu...@aol. com" ;
"aboy...@gsu.edu" 
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: FW: [Fwd: Fw: MAJOR VIRUS!(alert by Bell Canada)]]


>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Busch, Ph.D. [mailto:busch...@ellijay.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:27 AM
> To: undisclosed.recipie...@iname.net
> Subject: Fw: [Fwd: Fw: MAJOR VIRUS!(alert by Bell Canada)]]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Irma Martin 
> To: Brenda ; DebbieDo
> ; Rolly ;
Sara
> ; Margaret & Jim ;
Glenda
> 
> Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 8:20 PM
> Subject: [Fwd: Fw: MAJOR VIRUS!(alert by Bell Canada)]]
>
>
>
>  Original Message  Subject:  Fw: MAJOR
VIRUS!(alert by Bell
> Canada)]
>   Date:  Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:26:21 -0500
>   From:  "Joe Plain" 
>   To:  "jason" , "Carla"
> ,"STARR" , "Aashbik
Qua"
> ,"OZ" , "GAG"
> ,"douglas" , "Irma"
> ,"alan manitowabi"
,"Chiefie"
> ,"dawn madahbee"
> , "MARITA"
,"Mark"
> , "COURTS"
,"Rita"
> , "Marie/Harvey"
,"BILL"
> , "Laura"
,"Cathy"
> , "charlene"
,"vince"
> , "Diane" 
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > > From: Carl Stevenson 
> > > > > > > To:

> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:45 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Fw: MAJOR VIRUS!(alert by Bell Canada)]
> >
> >  FYI
> >
> > PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE FOR WHOM YOU HAVE AN E-MAIL
ADDRESS..
> >
> >  If you receive an email titled? "Forward", DO NOT OPEN IT.
It will
> > erase everything on your hard drive.
> > This information was announced yesterday morning from IBM;
AOL states
> > that "Forward" is a very dangerous virus, much worse than
"Melissa" and
> > that there is
> > NO remedy for it at this time.
> >
> > Some very sick individual has succeeded in using
> > the reformat function from Norton Utilities causing it to
completely
> > erase all documents on the hard
> > drive. It has been designed to work with Netscape Navigator
and
> > Microsoft Internet Explorer. It destroys Macintosh and IBM
compatible
> > comuters.
> >
> > This is a new, very malicious virus and not
> > many people know about itPass this warning along to
EVERYONE in
> > your address book and please
> > share it with all your online friends ASAP so that this
> > threat may be stopped.  Forward this warning to everyone that
might
> > access the Internet.
> >
> >  Ruth Marshall
> >  System Application Representative
> >  Bell Canada
> >  416 353-8101
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ---
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> 
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>


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CS>Fw: Interview with God ....forward from Leroy Atkins

[Dave Perkins]

This is very good.  You may want to pass it on.

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com


- Original Message - 
From: Leroy Atkins 

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: Interview with God forward from Leroy Atkins


Take a look.One of the best web presentations I have seenphotos are 
wonderful..Leroy

http://www.reata.org/exit.html

CS>Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD)

[Dave Perkins]

I have a friend who has a 9 year old boy who has been diagnosed
with Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD).
This is a very rare (supposedly hereditary) disorder that causes
the body to lack the enzymes necessary to break down long chain
fatty acids.

If any of you have any information that would help or any
suggestions about where information about this condition exists.
I would appreciate your response.

Thanks

Dave Perkins
"enjoy being"

email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com
web site: www.betterwayhealth.com




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