RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
yes both silver and gold are resistant to corrosion but not immune. Gold it seems would take my lifetime to CG au natural. ed -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Colloidal Gold Gold is EXTREMLY corrosion resistant. Most 'acids' won't touch it. ode At 01:42 PM 12/16/2004 -0800, you wrote: I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
I 'm wondering if one could HYDROSOL Gold or Silver with distilled water. This is a process commonly used to produce flower essence or essential oils. You have a closed system with water boiling on the bottom. The steam rises and passes through a second middle layer [flowers / herbs / Gold / Silver] and condenses at the top and collecting the essence of the flower/herb or oil along with the steam distillate which runs down a cooling strip. I may try that if I can get a hold of some gold and silver dust. Just have to plan things out what to hold the dust on (stainless may as well corrode, paper filters (like coffee filters, how to weight everything and what to look for and then how to test whats there. any ideas? ed -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Colloidal Gold In Ayurveda, we were taught to boil pure gold in water (I don't have the specifics handy) to produce gold water or the same process for silver. this produces a somewhat homeopathic water. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. ed
CSRE: Colloidal Gold
I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. ed -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSthank everyone - update on sick kid
V. Jean.G. that sounds like the western Germ Theory. Western science keeps chasing after 'cures only to find another tragedy. see Pleomorphism (the morphing of something into something else) ? http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm ? http://www.whale.to/p/bird.html which is closer to Traditional Chinese Medicine theory of health/disease as illustrated by the Five Elements ... see http://yinyanghouse.com/chinesetheory/theory/theory-fiveelement.html Western science can not explain how Colloidal Silver works therefore it does not work. That's science. Notwithstanding the claim that CS kills some 650 pathogens why then can't western science accept it. (I know why pharmaceuticals and drug companies will not accept it) why not high school chemistry classes or public universities or someone in there own homes. CS simply does not fit into the germ theory. It does fit into Pleomorphism and/or TCM. This of course does not validate Pleomorphism or TCM or even CS. It is just another way of looking at something. well, that's my 2 cents. 2 cents is different than a theory or a science. 2 cents is what I put up or shut up with when someone inquires 'a penny for your thoughts'. still wondering where that other penny goes, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: V.Jean.G. [mailto:tijua...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSthank everyone - update on sick kid Lea Ann, I agree with your doctor, ninety percent of illness are caused by viruses and ten percent bacteria. When these viral infections aren't detected or treated, surgical intervention may be required. Viruses have the capabililty to spread to vital organs, and lastly the brain. There is medicine for bacterial infections but nothing to fight back viruses. Anti-biotics help to a degree but not strong enough to kill viruses. People are left to fend for themselves. The world is a cesspool of contamination and we're doing little to nothing to clean up the environment. At this time, many animals are getting sick too. The only thing we get from Government is talk and no action. I seriously doubt there's only one or two cases of Mad-Cow Disease in the U.S. Mankind is doing it to themselves, all we need is an epidemic and the rest is history. V.Jean.G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
water is a solvent meaning it dissolves things. There are claims that people are sick because they are dehydrated. see www.watercure.com There are PhD's and doctors that claim drinking distilled water will leech minerals form your body so you should not drink distilled water. Isn't oxidize a break-down of a metal. Dissolving the metal. In theory distilled water would be pure nothing else in it and Gold as a base metal no further breakdown into something else is possible so the end result over enough time will be gold water. thanks for your thoughts, ed -Original Message- From: Kay Kelly [mailto:kayke...@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold Distilled water is inert to gold and silver. (water reacts to magnesium because the magnesium splits the molecule and ignites the hydrogen) Running water will erode metal (and rock) over time. However the particles are too big to be metabolized by the body. If you just place gold or silver in standing water it will simply oxidize. -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRE: Colloidal Gold I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. ed -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSColloidal Gold
Adrian do you use one silver one gold ? can you describe the placement of the silver/gold. thanks ed -Original Message- Make your own, it's MUCH cheaper. I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series, so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the +setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter I've also given it to friends. adrian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: vinegar
Just because it says lemon oil does not make it natural or safe. All oils are processed and therein lies the culprit. There extraction process most likely uses chemicals in the process - which are not disclosed (withheld) . For a reference on oils and processing - see Paul Pitchford Healing with Whole Foods . Pretty depressing as even extra-virgin olive oil may hide a shady past. Funny how a label Real Lemon makes one think of fresh lemons. If you are drinking this stuff for your health then consider using fresh lemons, apple cider, mother-of-vinegar, or kombucha __all live foods__. All simple, easy to make at home and mostly available locally. Not sure how CS or EIS would react to a mix, but could be taken a few hours apart. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: vinegar mborg...@att.net wrote: Dear Mr. Harris, I wish to ask you a question, I have been drinking lemon juice made from a brand called Real Lemon 100% lemon juice from concentrate, yet on the the ingredient list it states'lEMON JUICE FROM CONCENTRATE(WATER,CONCENTRATED LEMON JUICE).sodium benzoate,sodium metabisulfite and sodium sulfite(preservatives)..lemon oil. My question what are these preseratives??are they safe? there is no mention of their strength. I noticed on a 32oz bottle that the preseratives were 1/40 of 1% for each of the three. My bottle is 48 oz sodium benzoate Implicated as an immune suppressant, even as an agent in AIDs for some people, similar to benzene. Acts as a nutrient for AIDs causing parasites according to Clark if I remember right. However it is in lots of food if you check the labels. sodium metabisulfite and sodium sulfite(preservatives) Not sure of toxcidity, but would likely form silver sulfite if mixed with EIS. I would expect them to be hard on the kidneys like sulfa drugs are. Perhaps Mr. Harris would have additional information on these. ..lemon oil. Natural. Should be safe. Marshall thanks
RE: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
and Thank You very much. Ed -Original Message- From: l [mailto:laure...@bluewin.ch] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) Here is a list of all the food additives allowed in the European Union, there are at the moment 300 diffrent ones divided in categories ie, colouring,emulsifiers, sweeteners,etc. Silver is number E174 used as colouring.ie glazing in bakeries etc http://www.food.gov.uk/safereating/additivesbranch/enumberlist laurenz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: Silver Breeze
a few posts ago there was a discussion regarding Hulda Clarks product combining colloidal silver and H2O2. Should / Could DMSO be added to that as well. Maybe scented with ginger or peppermint ? Ed -Original Message- Hulda Clark just came out with this stuff Silver Breeze. Its ingredients are Silver Hydrogen Peroxide. It comes in a spay bottle.You use it like you would use a can of disenfectant.Is there any paticular way of mixing these two ingrediants together ? It sounds good. www.drclark.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
The FDA only has objection to health claims. I sell CS on my website. I link to the silver list and tell people that they can make it themselves. In a letter the FDA warned me: 1.that any links are to be interrupted as a label. Therefore links that make medical claims are medical claims made by me. 2. That [as a California licensed acupuncturist and herbalist] I may make dietary suggestions. However dietary suggestions - in their view - mean that it must be consumed and not placed on the skin. (I suggested that CS may help when applied directly to the skin in certain cases). Ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) The FDA also allows silver in decorations. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/humannutrition/_fndigest/1996/marapr96.htm Q. Are those little decorative silver balls that are put on cupcakes and things safe? A. The FDA has a fact sheet on Dragees (their actual name) and states that We have no evidence of harm to health from the extremely small quantity of silver in the coating. Therefore, the FDA has not objected to the presence of silver on these decorations when they are used as a cake decoration. (RB) Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
This may be going a bit off topic but if the FDA - Food Drug Adim - why don't they take a closer look at dietary supplements - like the Chinese herbs, etc that I sell. I know they look at supplements but it seems very vague. As I said they did look over my site but their concern was in the use of herbs specially Ginseng in the treatment of a disease - Diabetes and in CS applied topically) Ginseng could not be marketed as a product for treating diabetes. If it did treat diabetes then in the FDA would/will (in their words) classify Ginseng as a new drug and I would need a federal license to dispense the herb (new drug). They did not see me in violation for selling ginseng - a dietary supplement - in the treatment of thirsting and wasting disease (a TCM defined disorder that resembles diabetes in signs and symptoms). I could sell CS as a dietary supplement - but not for the treatment of a disease. My apologies for going off subject but the FDA invites my curiosity. Thanks for responses. ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) That is not true, for instance the FDA approves food additives and colorings, but there are never any health claims for food coloring. Try putting a non approved color in your food, and they will come down on you too. Marshall Ed Kasper wrote: The FDA only has objection to health claims. I sell CS on my website. I link to the silver list and tell people that they can make it themselves. In a letter the FDA warned me: 1.that any links are to be interrupted as a label. Therefore links that make medical claims are medical claims made by me. 2. That [as a California licensed acupuncturist and herbalist] I may make dietary suggestions. However dietary suggestions - in their view - mean that it must be consumed and not placed on the skin. (I suggested that CS may help when applied directly to the skin in certain cases). Ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) The FDA also allows silver in decorations. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/humannutrition/_fndigest/1996/marapr96.htm Q. Are those little decorative silver balls that are put on cupcakes and things safe? A. The FDA has a fact sheet on Dragees (their actual name) and states that We have no evidence of harm to health from the extremely small quantity of silver in the coating. Therefore, the FDA has not objected to the presence of silver on these decorations when they are used as a cake decoration. (RB) Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
How is silver used silver as a (legal) food additive (used in bakery etc.) Are there recipes (on the web) on this stuff? ed -Original Message- From: l [mailto:laure...@bluewin.ch] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Silver Breeze In Switzerland there is a five point poison classification; 1 being the most poisonus- 5 the least , stating how much is lethal to living animals (mostly) rats 1 - 0-5mg/kg 2- 5-50mg/kg 3- 50-500mg/kg 4- 500-2000mg/kg 5- 2000-5000mg/kg so what is being said is that silver breeze does apparently not fall within those catergories ..if it is proven and tested i don't know...also in the European Comunity -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CShepatitis c
I don't know if CS works or not. I don't think it will ever hurt and certainly worth using it. I would suggest to take it as a continuous low dosage. Add to a water bottle and sip all day. There is now a second phase FDA approved clinical trials using all natural herbs. The study was funded by a Japanese herbal company HONSO. their GMP product is named Sho-saiko-to translated to Chinese Pin Yin = Xiao Chai Hu Tang) ingredients listed on their web site. http://www.honsousa.com/Products/H09.htm There are links to the actual research being done now. Does look very promising. Long term use of the product - six months or longer. HONSO sells two types of Sho-saiko-to. One is their professional strength H09 which is available only through licensed health care professionals (like myself) or their Liver Kampo Capsules. The capsules are available from any retailer. Exact same formula except only 1/2 the strength. The professional H09 is the formula strength used in the study. A Google search will find lots of places selling Liver Kampo. It is not for everybody, and as in the case with all Chinese herbal formulas, a correct differential diagnosis is required. Xiao Chai Hu Tang is a very popular Chinese herb formula widely available in many forms. The price varies from a few dollars a bottle to a average price of $25 a bottle. The Chinese herbs are available at any Chinese herbal pharmacy or most acupuncturists. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: john joseph [mailto:j...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CShepatitis c I have hep c at stage 3 is there anyone else on this post have tryed cs for hep c, if there is could you please give me some info does cs really work.Please reply. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSdiet
IMHO, its not whats in the diet - its what has been added or adulterated to the food. Chemicals, GMO's, enzymes, anti-biotic thats what we are fed. Canned, frozen, dehydrated, Radiated. Commercials have convinced me that a good home meal is straight out of the can! You are what you eat. Then we question how could anything so simple as sticking a piece of silver in a glass of water be healthy! just my 2 cents, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.12.8 - Release Date: 11/7/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLive Bacteria
The Chinese traditionally do not eat a lot of meat and yet have longed noted that eating specific meats during a medical crisis are recommended. Chicken Tonifies Qi edema blood deficiency Black Chicken nourish liver and kidney empty heat Tonify spleen infertility Chicken eggs moistens dryness nourishes blood kidney essences Duck nourishes yin clears heat promotes urination Pork Nourishes Yin Lamb Tonifies Yang Beef Tonifies Qi Rabbit Tonifies Qi with Dampness Pigeon fertility for men Shrimp Tonifies Yang Carp Promotes urination Snail Tonifies Liver and Kidney Crab good for fractures The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, or Americans, or Australians. The French eat a lot of fat and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, or Americans, or Australians. The Japanese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, or Americans, or Australians. The Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, or Americans, or Australians. The Germans drink a lot of beer and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British, or Americans, or Australians. CONCLUSION Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you. that's another 2 cents worth, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLive Bacteria Herbalist Dr Richard Schulze recommends, as John does, that it is absolutely necessary to give up eating meat and any animal products (anything that ever touched an animal...) when one is trying to overcome disease. His explanation was that all animal products cause the blood to thicken, become less viscous, and therefore less blood can circulate in the area of problem. As our bodies are only healed by the flow of blood to an area bringing in and taking away products, it stands to reason that any lessening of the ability of the blood to get around the body tends to lessen the chances for health and healing. Congestion = disease. Dan -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.12.8 - Release Date: 11/7/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.12.8 - Release Date: 11/7/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSargyria
According to Traditional Chinese Medicine this usually reflects the state of Blood. Either Blood Deficiency with Internal Cold or Blood Stagnation. TCM terms: http://www.happyherbalist.com/tcm_terms.htm A distinction has to be made between Blood Deficiency with Internal Cold (deficiency condition) or Blood Stagnation. (excess condition) and then a suitable Chinese herbal formula would be prescribed. Browse through your local bookstore section on TCM and look under Diagnosis by observation; Lunulae, fingernails. I could theorize that if you have been taking CS and your body is detoxing the elimination process is being held up in the blood (Blood Stasis) or your condition has been one of general deficiency where the CS has been eliminating toxins but your body is in need of general strengthening, as one goes through a recovery stage (Blood Deficiency) Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done -Original Message- I also have blue finger nails. I show (blue) moons in all five nails. -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.12.8 - Release Date: 11/7/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.12.8 - Release Date: 11/7/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDetermining Body pH by Urine Testing
I would add that although the pH reading (salvia/urine) is not accurate as a correct reading of the body's pH it does give a correct indication of the direction your body is going when taken over 60-90 days. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: David Bearrow [mailto:dav...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 4:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDetermining Body pH by Urine Testing The way to determine body pH is to measure the pH of your first urine in the morning, then measure the pH of your saliva first thing in the morning before you have eaten or drank anything. Then add the numbers together and divide by 2 to get the average. That average can be considered a close approximation of body pH. As Garnet pointed out, pH taken after eating or drinking only measures the pH of the food just consumed. I would think that the water we drink is mostly what effects our PH as we drink much more water than we intake food. One can alter ones PH quickly by raising the PH of the water one drinks. There is an interesting article here: http://www.altcancer.com/hydrox.htm on pH. David Bearrow At 04:50 PM 11/10/04, you wrote: http://homecure.com/cat23.html AlkaMAX PAPERS pH Papers HomeCure's AlkaMAX Papers help you monitor your daily fluctuation from acid to alkaline by giving you valuable information for planning a better diet, lifestyle and improving your health. One quick dip in either urine or saliva gives you immediate results. Measures pH from 4.5-7.5 On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 15:19, Garnet wrote: It is simple to figure out what your diet is doing to your pH. Buy some pH test strips like diabetics use and measure the pH of your urine after eating various types of foods. Occams Razor strikes again. Garnet -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.12.8 - Release Date: 11/7/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.12.8 - Release Date: 11/7/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSIn Vivo CS?
sounds like Japanese-style acupuncture. Method of superficially (shallow insertion of .5 cm) or simply laying needles on the skin using a Gold Needle and a Silver Needle. Some people respond very positively to this form of treatment. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:41 AM I have wondered if a silver needle (electrode) could be inserted into a vein and then stimulated with an appropriately small and controlled current/voltage in order to get the effect of IV colloidal silver. Of course, this could be dangerous, but it may be something to think about, experimentally... A combination of blood electrification and colloidal silver? Dan RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans From: David W Kenney wrote: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:31:53 Metalic silver electrodes were used in the 70's for electrostimulation of non-healing fractures with great success. Check out Dr. Becker's books. Body Electric Cross Currents. I would speculate that a form of colloidal silver is created at the ends of the electrodes he implants near the non-union. Dr. Kenney -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.12.2 - Release Date: 10/22/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDMSO-DRAGON breath
Garnet, Speaking of Lactic Acid Bacteria, Yeasts and Phototrophic Bacteria. I have plenty of bacteria and yeasts in my Kombucha. L(+) Lactic acid - Usnic acid - Acetic acid - Carbonic acid - Folic Acid - Gluconic acid - Glucuronic acid - Amino acids vitamins, Various Enzymes are also reported as present. I'd be glad to send you some to experiment to reduce VOCs and hopefully deodorize DMSO. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:20 AM To: Silver List Subject: Re: CSDMSO-DRAGON breath No I don't really have any other good ideas. I don't know how they mix it and it may be a proprietary process. If you buy it from www.jacoblab.com it does help support their research and publishing efforts. Dr Jacob is working on a extensive book on DMSO, some where I read it was to be a 6 volume set. I have recently been reading about Effective Microorganisms, a proprietary mixture of Lactic Acid Bacteria, Yeasts and Phototrophic Bacteria. One use I am looking at is for adding them to pain to reduce VOCs (paint odors). I have no idea but it is a thought that maybe it could also deodorize DMSO? But then again maybe the DMSO would kill them since they are bacteria and it is effective against some bacteria. Particularly if it contained cs. Google Effective Microorganisms for more info. There is a Yahoo list but I don't have the address. They are sold through dealers and no you can not cultivate them, it changes them, adds other bugs etc. Garnet -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.11.1 - Release Date: 10/15/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.11.1 - Release Date: 10/15/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results
Hi Sally, small world. When I first began growing and using the kombucha mushrooms people said not to mix CS with kombucha as the CS will kill it. Which it does. Then you read books on kombucha -like Günther Franks and they say to add alcohol to the pressed extract of the kombucha mushrooms ! And claim that it still has all the medicinal benefits ! Most of the commercial vendors of kombucha extract add alcohol to their products and a great many people claim health benefits. My preference is to keep the kombucha a live food but if one wanted the benefits that alcohol provide (stopping the fermentation and no unsightly mess in the bottle) than one should add CS instead of alcohol. One would then gain the benefits of both. I thought about selling my kombucha extract with CS. BUT the FDA has already cited my site in regards to CS where I stated that CS may be applied topically. The FDA insisted that when one offers CS as a mineral supplement it MUST BE taken internally. So I was obliged to comply and changed wordings and suggestions. I used to tell people to use CS topically and to follow up with a laser pointing pen (red LED) for disorders on the skin and a lot of people reported really great success on tough cases. BTW, kombucha (well aged) works very well on the skin as well and another good along with CS. Presently I still have the links on my site to join this list, but the FDA also stated that where I sell products (FDA specific stated CS and Ginseng in my case) and even though I do not make any medicinal claims yet have links to other sites that do, then the FDA considers that link as part of my label...and therefore I was making the medical claim. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 1:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results Ed, I just realized I've bought Kombu mushrooms from you. I live in SJ. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: Richard, how much Gatorade-CS Blend was your wife taking (twice a day) and for long before she noticed any improvements ? And if you and your wife don't mind please include age and weight. Ed kasper, LAc Santa Cruz, CA www.Happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results Hi Susie, My wife of 57 years had a chronic UTI that reoccurred each month. She had been taking CS, but usually ended up going to Dr. and getting expensive antibiotics with uncomfortable side effects. Upon hearing of Brooks Bradley's Gatorade (the real stuff) 2 parts with 1 part 10ppm CS, twice a day, she has had NO recurrence--Praise God! This was almo! st a year ago--I recommend this to everyone taking CS. Purchasing Gatorade by the gallon on sale makes it very economical and even though Audrey is on a salt-free diet, this gives her NO problem. Check my Site let me know if I can be of help. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.271 / Virus Database: 264.9.6 - Release Date: 9/24/2004
RE: CSWatercone solar distiller
It seems to me just a variation on the usual theme. One can use anything. Glass is very suitable . A simple lean to with a southern exposure. Have the bottom of the glass sit in a gutter raised at one end to drain into a collection pot. Sides, etc can be wood , plastic whatever. A lot of solar distillers on the net some pretty useful for Herbal distillers. Ed Kasper LAc. Santa Cruz, CA www.HappyHerbalist.com -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.262 / Virus Database: 264.8.5 - Release Date: 9/10/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS aid to hair .........
On urine therapy (mentioned below) I would suggest baby urine which has a very high percentage of growth hormones and essential minerals and far less baggage ed -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:21 PM To: Silver List Subject: Re: CSCS aid to hair . Topical application of fresh urine is an ancient remedy for baldness. It seems it would impart an odor but it does not. Leave it on for awhile and then rinse only with clean water. It is also somewhat cleansing, but not as much as shampoo is. Using shampoos without Lauryl sulfate is supposed to be preventative. Seems the lauryl sulfate strips too many oils and can damage hair follicles. Jason shampoos have no lauryl sulfate, laureth sulfate is suppose to be ok, but neither would be better. Garnet On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 22:45, tbass wrote: CS Gang, Has anyone ever attempted anything that they consider helped them limit going bald, or reduce thinning of their hair with or without Colloidal Silver..?? Replies?? Ideas?? (I've been meaning to ask this question for a long time.) Tom Bassett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.253 / Virus Database: 263.4.8 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.253 / Virus Database: 263.4.8 - Release Date: 7/22/2004
CSRE: auto shut off
I am trying to figure out at what point should I have my home made unit turn off. For 20 ppm should the target be 2-3ma Does it matter the initial voltage / current. ? What should the reading be on a millimeter? ed
CSpneumonia and cs
I just revisted http://silvermedicine.org/airbrushoxygennebulizer.txt Really appreciate all the effort that has gone into this journey by all. Last week my 7 year old daughter came down with pneumonia and bronchitis. She being treated with antibiotics - taken via IV. 5 days on 2 off then another 5 days She's in TianJin, China with her mother - who's visiting her mother who is in poor health. I wish they had nebulizer and CS there, but don't and (my wife and her family) don't really believe in all that stuff. I thought of sending a small bottle of CS with Cayenne (in a nasal spray bottle) but don't think my 7 year would go for it. Appreciate all ideas ED -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.16 - Release Date: 5/6/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS? for Terry Chamberlain re: Magnetic Pulser
Just a thought. If the Sota Magnetic Pulser doubles as a CS maker, could a CS maker double as a zapper. ed -Original Message- Terry, I believe you mentioned something about being able to get the Sota Magnetic Pulser shipped directly from them but for a lower price? I'm thinking of getting one and would be interested in knowing what price you could get that for. Thanks, 'Ted' -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.230 / Virus Database: 262.6.7 - Release Date: 4/5/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: baking soda
checked the link below and saw their article Why do we advocate using BAKING SODA to make CS? The components of salt (sodium chloride) AND baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) are both essential and equally important to the biological functioning of the body! Salt has been an old CS'ers standby for years. It does the job relative to conductivity, but it has one major drawback - the chloride in salt is incompatable with silver ! It combines to form silver chloride. Although the AgCl levels are not significant, why create even a small problem when it can be easily avoided? Baking soda will also raise the pH of the water (more alkaline = better). any comments on this??? ed -Original Message- From: Ian Roe [mailto:ian_onta...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsource of silver strips You can try http://www.csprosystems.com. They made strips like these for the HVAC Ultra Pro. Although the unit is no longer made or sold, there is still support for it and the strips should be available. Ian -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.230 / Virus Database: 262.6.5 - Release Date: 3/31/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: Positive or negative
Is it possible just put the silver on the positive side and a non- silver on the negative side ? or larger piece of silver on the positive pole and small piece of silver on the negative? ed -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.230 / Virus Database: 262.6.5 - Release Date: 3/31/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBill to Boost Industry Fees That Fund FDA
My thinking on that is that only with huge fees and much red tape can the industry keep out the competition Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com kombu...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Gary Green [mailto:lim...@pc.jaring.my] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:19 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBill to Boost Industry Fees That Fund FDA On Friday, May 24, 2002, at 08:56 PM, Connie wrote: With little public discussion and limited debate on Capitol Hill, Congress is moving to substantially expand the program through which companies pay large fees to the Food and Drug Administration to review their new drug applications -- making the agency increasingly dependent on the businesses that it regulates. END QUOTE Just business as usual from the people that gave you the Lone-Nut theory and the Magic-Bullet.
RE: CSRE: CS and herpes
Thanks for the response. ed -Original Message- From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: CS and herpes I've used it in the eyes, but not for herpes. - Original Message - From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:44 AM Subject: CSRE: CS and herpes Wondering if any have heard of using CS in the eyes to treat herpes? ed -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: CS and herpes
Wondering if any have heard of using CS in the eyes to treat herpes? ed -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSReichspatent 538 028
looking for the preparation of Kombuchal under German Reichspatent 538 028. Can anyone suggest How I could go about getting information from the German Patent Office. thanks in advance Ed Kasper, Santa Cruz, CA -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFDA, limits of jurisdiction
hopefully the reservations will go autonomous like the slogans the U.S.A used to justify intervention in the old Yugoslavia and Soviet Empires. however, better keep up your supply of CS cause forces in the homeland are gearing up. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Herbs Chinese Herbs and Energy to maintain and restore health Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: ronwilson [mailto:ronlwil...@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFDA, limits of jurisdiction second post, first lost in space It's the states that have no jurisdiction. The fed's are every place in this country. Live by for 25 years and am on and off reservations constancy. Cost tax payers big bucks, Past time to free them from federal control to full citizenship. They are in essence wards of the feds. Ron Az. - Original Message - From: Brenda mavri...@mchsi.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:14 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: FDA, etc. limits of jurisdiction The last I heard the feds (of any persuasion) have ZERO to say about ANYTHING on a reservation. NA are a sovereign nation and are not subject to the feds! - Original Message - From: Craig Chamberlin c...@itsmyplace.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: CSRE: FDA, etc. limits of jurisdiction Greetings, Does anyone know if the FDA, AMA, etc., have any jurisdiction on what is done on an Indian Reservation? Thanks, Craig Chamberlin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: nebulizers: Opps!
Opps . I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation there suggested retail price is $19.95. Wonder if this would work for C-S . From Starwest.1-800--800-4372 web site but does not have pictures. web http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/default.asp NOTE: I read the wrong description !!! item number #266350 is for $19.95 its a small unit with a simple heating element.up to 500 sq ft item number 266350 retails $48.89 (wholesale $29.95) is for the description above plus says that the oil vapor created by the glass nebulizer stays suspended in the air for longer periods of time and cover 900 sq ft. The fine print reads that it should not be used with heavy oils and suggests dilution with alcohol or water. compare this to an earlier Post by Dave ... Drugstore.com sells the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. I have purchased 4 of these for friends that do not have internet access. They can be purchased without prescription, and they work very well. One person cleared up his pneumonia, my sister is presently using one for her lung cancer and in her last report the tumor had reduced in size. The Omron Nebulizer does not require oxygen or external compressor. It has a built in air pump, runs on 115 volts, and comes with all accessories required to make a very fine mist. Also included is a video tape showing how to use it and clean it. Dave I couldn't fine the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. at drugstore.com (I sent them email) but came across a ultraviolet mist humidifier for $79.95 ..] Only Slant/Fin's Exclusive Ultraviolet Germicidal Technology Can Deliver 99.999% Germ-Free Warm Mist $79.99 www.drugstore.com unit at http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=40613catid=25429trx=GFI-0-; trxp1=25429trxp2=40613trxp3=1btrx=BUY-GFI-0- Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe Spot: Off Topic
'Mystery Spot' is in my home town Santa Cruz, CA. scientist come to offer their explanations, best they say is that its an illusion... but it works. Been there several times, and the guides will let you bring any equipment you want to test. Many people like Terry said, bring their own levels, cameras, watches, walkie-talkies. Some things common is that people get dizzy and when walking down the stairs people are leaning backwards until they cross outside the area and the next step they're leaning forward as one would naturally walk down stairs. Golf balls roll uphill !!!, Pendulum swings counter clockwise (normal for Australians, but not for elsewhere, USA. People of equal height standing 3 feet apart - on a level surface, proved by your own carpenters level, change places and their heights change. Proved again by your own photographs! It does appear to be outside the intent of the person. But again, this is California and people do have their own reality here. BTW, the Mystery Spot has not been approved or endorsed by the FDA, and does not make any claims what-so-ever. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Spot When I was in High school, I got a job one summer at a tourist attraction called, The Mystery Spot. (This is in Calif.) It was an area about 100 yards across in which gravity, it was claimed, pulled at an angle, rather than straight down. The buildings were built slanted, we were told, to accentuate the angle (which was up to about 12-18 degrees over from straight vertical). I thought it was all silliness when I first went to work there. Then I noticed certain anomalies. One of them was that everyone's digital watches were giving the wrong time, every time, several hours wrong, when the customer got out of the Spot. What this would have to do with gravity, I don't know, but it happened. Also, 2-way radios did not work in the Spot. Because this was well known, folks would bring their walky-talkys and one person would go into the Spot and one would stay in the parking lot. They could not communicate with each other. No voices, just static. Someone would bring in a long carpenters level, and lay it on a bench or step inside the Spot, and one end would clearly be higher than the other, even though the bubble showed it to be level. They had old, yellowed newspaper article clippings displayed under glass telling about the 11 other Spots that had been found around the world. There was even an article describing how a US military base in Africa had to be dismantled and moved because of all the accidents that kept happening there (car accidents, planes crashing, falling down stairs), because gravity didn't pull straight down. Interesting. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: nebulizers
I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation under $20 (new). Wonder if this would work for C-S ed kasper, still in santa cruz, ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBlack coating
Leo, use Distilled Water Only and be sure your container is clean ed -Original Message- From: Leo Regehr [mailto:leoel...@telusplanet.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:32 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSBlack coating My rods are coating with black gunk within minutes of insertion. Volts are 20DC, rods are 3-4 apart. I realize this is an elementary question, but my name is Watson, not Sherlock. Any suggestion? Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLunar CS making
A good doctor cures 30% of his patients simply by wearing a white coat and telling the patient that they will be better. In every severe trauma the best way to help someone is to tell them they are all right. Re-assure them, never tell them the truth, never show the truth on your face. Their injuries are such that they may die - but shock and despair will kill even when the injuries are not life-threatening. Rituals - and Beliefs - are what all people live and die by. Ed Kasper, Santa Cruz, CA. - but that's the way it is in this part of California ! Happy Holidays, Joy and Peace to ALL. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAcid/alkaline silver generator?
Thanks Kevin and Dean. but their Vortex Energiser http://www.implosionresearch.com/cir3/listings/8.html did not look like the thing I saw years ago. But what if you started with Distilled Water, ran it through a carbon filter (to make it slightly alkaline) then through spiraled silver tubes carrying a slight charge to it. Final step be add trace minerals etc. Ed Kasper LAc Santa Cruz, CA -Original Message- From: Kevin Nolan [mailto:ken...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 6:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAcid/alkaline silver generator? High, Ed. At a guess the doover you're thinking of is a kind of Vortex Energiser that you can read about at http://www.implosionresearch.com/cir3/index.html. Another treasure -trove site featuring many different water energizing techniques is http://www.mind.net/aware/water/waterhm.htm. Personally I think most of the info at those sites is only fit for composting. Of all the water conditioning concepts I have looked at, electrolyzed water has the soundest credentials. ORP as far as I know is really only an issue with the latter, the other technologies are really about attempting microclustering - rearranging the aggregration of water molecules, whereas electrolyzed acid/alkaline water involves introduction of an actual chemical species, H-, as well as microclustering and pH adjustment. regards, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au
RE: CSAcid/alkaline silver generator?
Kevin, thanks for those links. Makes more sense to me now especially where others were talking about using C-S as the mineral necessary for conductibility in distilled water, for a second stage Acid/alkaline silver generator. Quite a few years ago I recall a miracle water machine made by some engineer that used a vortex as part of his machine. It just hooked up under the sink. All stainless steel and a bit pricy for me so I never pursued that. The information sent to be (this was before the internet) was several pages of his creditenials and explanation of how it worked. I seem to recall that the super fast moving water was critical and maybe it moved around a magnet or something. Showed pictures before/after of plants, blood cells. A lot of details, sure wish I could find that. Sounds to me like the ORP you talked about. Ed Kasper LAC Santa Cruz, CA -Original Message- From: Kevin Nolan [mailto:ken...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAcid/alkaline silver generator? Hi, Duncan. Firstly, I'm a newbie to this game and have yet to construct my own unit. Hopefully there are experienced users of Acid/Alkaline makers that can contribute - hello Nina. Having said that, the following observations may help. 1: Magnets will do nothing in respect of separating ions in solution. (Magnetic conditioning of water is a separate field of which I have no firm opinion on at this point). 2: You seem to be referring to the DIY plans at angelfire.com.au when talking about 12V as the suggested value. Attempting to use 4000 volts would likely prove either catastrophic or disappointing, depending on the available current draw. A potential (voltage) without current can do nothing - it is current flow over time that matters. Optimum voltage - who knows? I'd try about 30V initially, based on the following. 3: The whole area is wooley - there are loose parameters such as appropriate water conductivity, current draw, electrolysing time etc that are just not properly discussed anywhere I have found. An example of trying to back-figure: Most commercial units seem to be rated at around 50-100 watts. Assuming 12 V DC at the electrodes, that works out at about 4-8 amps current through the cell. That is supposed to be using just filtered tap water. This seems way out. I have done a quick experiment, modifying my CS unit. Two silver plate electrodes, each having a wetted area of 160mm X 40mm X 2(both sides of plate included), separated by 62mm, with 23.7 V applied between them, gave the following current draws: Distilled water: 1.5 mA Tap water: 21.3 mA Tap water plus 1/2 level tsp potassium citrate dissolved in: 393 mA While some vendors of batch type units recommend adding a pinch of sea salt, it would have to be an awfully big pinch to get even 1 amp flowing. So there are big question marks. Tap water conductivity will vary enormously from one locale to another, which to me makes nonsense of any standard procedure assuming tap water, which is just what most units do. Output must be markedly dependent on input. 5: What exactly are we trying to achieve - is it alkaline pH, negative ORP (oxidation/reduction potential), or microclustering of the water? All three are variously claimed to be the important factor. If it's pH, then just adding a pinch of lime to plain water would suffice. If microclustering is the thing, then despite the impression given by most vendors, only a tiny fraction of the water could be converted, given the running times and likely currents applying to their machines. I think the fellow at www.h-minus-ion.org makes most sense - a highly negative ORP seems to be the number one factor. That translates into maximising the level of dissolved hydrogen. What is not clear is whether the hydrogen is simply dissolved H2 or nascent hydrogen as single-atom H, but presumably it is the latter. In that case I would think vigorous stirring around the area of the negative electrode is advisable - sweep hydrogen away before it can combine to produce H2 gas. How much nascent H can water hold? How much is desirable? What factors affect it's stability? I have not even seen these questions asked let alone answered. So without solid parameters to aim for, I'm afraid much is left to anecdotal accounts and vendor statements that often conflict. Vendors can't be blamed for unwillingness to divulge all, but it would help to get some really useful info! 6: There is one site that nicely provides the clues for making a cheap unit - http://www.quantumbalancing.com/e-water.htm. Notice that carbon electrodes seem to be used. Hope the above helps. Regards, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au Original message: Hi Kevin; The instructions for the alkaline water maker say that 12 volts is enough... some instructions I saw somewhere indicate you could also use one or 2 magnets to separate the water into ionic
RE: CSColloidal Gold
Chip. I would be interested in the plans. I don't know if CG is of value but I would like to try. ed kasper -Original Message- From: Chip Hoyle [mailto:cho...@hampsuites.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 7:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSColloidal Gold Brian, I built my own with a 15kv 60ma transformer, two gold electrodes, a plastic food storage container, high voltage wire and a few other miscellaneous parts from the hardware store. Total cost was about $350. I use constant stirring (Thanks to Old Bob). My setup isn't pretty, but makes good CG and doesn't cost $900 bucks. I'll be happy to help you do it yourself if you are so inclined. Chip Hoyle Brian Gr wrote: Hi,I've been lurking here for some time. I've got a home made constant current generated CS system which works quite well for me based on observed results. My interest is expanding to want to try colloidal gold. Unfortunately, information seems much harder to obtain about CG than on CS. I'm still debating the build or buy decision for CG. I've thought of building, but after looking at the mechanical requirements, I realize I'm possibly over my head. (thanks Old Bob for the diagram!!) Does anyone have any recommendations concerning CG generators? Searches turn up few results. The utopiasilver Spartan 15KV-60 looks interesting, but pricey. Does anyone have any comments on this or any other generators for producing CG? Thanks in advance!Brian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDigital Multimeter
OK I bought one at Radio Shack for $15 a digital one NOW how do I use? Do I just put both the positive and negative ends in the water? - after I unplugged the unit... I am using 110VAC volts to a bridge rectifier the output I believe is 54 VDC (2) 10 inches of wet silver (total 20 inches of wet silver) 5 inches apart mechanical stirrer in center (cheapest radio shack motor) one and half gallon distilled water sorry, I read earlier posts but I'm still confused about it. Ed -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTaking another look at side effect studies..... More evidence of probable misquoted studies commonly circulated
Thanks for a couple of things. thanks for looking, thanks for taking it, thanks for letting us know name withheld by request (never know who's reading this, eh) -Original Message- From: Jason / AVRA [mailto:colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTaking another look at side effect studies. More evidence of probable misquoted studies commonly circulated
RE: CSDoes anyone know about KT?
I have been growing and selling kombucha commercially for the last several years. I also take both K-T and CS. The are not compatible if taken at the same time The CS will Kill the kombucha mushroom. What happens is that the kombucha will no longer produce another mushroom or ferment the tea. What I recommend is to take the CS at night and the K-T during the day at mealtime. The affect of K-T is to aid digestion and thereby help one's overall health. Although K-T is acidic with a pH of about 2.5 it is an alkaline forming food in the body. So once it aids digestion the continuing affects of K-T is through the lymphatic system and blood system in removing stored toxins from the body. This is as viewed by Traditional Chinese Medicine, which is my expertise. CS in the system neutralizes pathogens (as well as K-T in the stomach) but does not remove them. When taking K-T or CS I recommend to take 1/2 of your body weight in ounces of pure fresh water daily. If one weights 100 pounds then one should drink 50 ounces of water. This is really necessary to remove the toxins. This new release of toxins is often thought as a healing crisis. These new toxins if not carried out via urine, stool or sweat will come out through the skin which naturally respires the accumulated excess toxins. for more information, perceived benefits, analysis and brewing tips click on http://www.happyherbalist.com/information.htm Kombucha Pictures online at http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm BTW, kombucha is another one of those things like CS, easy to make at home, cheap to make and often people will willingly - for various reasons - pay a lot of money for. I belong to several kombucha lists where people do give away kombucha's for free if anyone is interested contact me off list. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com kombu...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: william falls [mailto:wfa...@prodigy.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDoes anyone know about KT? Hi group! I was wondering if anyone in the group knows anything about Kombucha Tea, and will the CS I take on a regular basis, kill the effectivness of the Kombucha? Also, would it kill a scobie? And if it does kill the KT, would it be best to drink the CS and KT at different times of day? Just wonderin' Lorie
RE: CSParkinson disease
I've worked on a few people who suffer from Parkinson's (including my father). There is a simple protocol available off the internet and I also offer Free Treatments for Parkinson's. please see http://www.happyherbalist.com/Parkinson.htm for more information. The sooner the treatment begins and the less Rx drugs taken the greater the recovery rate - and recovery is possible. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Laser Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSre: microwaves
Duncan, I would love to convert my microwave to a CS generator, can you post details ? Ed -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 9:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSre: microwaves The damaging wavelengths the articles are referring to are microwaves produced by the magnetron, not the rest of the circuit itself. I use a microwave circuit to make CS because it delivers 3200 to 4000 volts of pulsed DC. There's no magnetron in the one I use, hence, no radiation except normal electromagnetic interference from the high-powered circuit. The articles make a great case for modifying your microwave oven to make it into a CS generator. All the safeties are kept, and the CS can be made very quickly and on a timer. Duncan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS turning black
I heated eight ounces of distilled water in a microwave for five minutes (pretty hot) and used my 3-nine volt batteries for 45 minutes and the water turned very golden. I disconnected the wires and set the CS aside and within an hour it turned very dark. It tasted very metallic. I had cleaned (with a clean towel) the silver leads, and I did not see any large metal flakes, the liquid was clear just very dark. ed -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNew forum for ideas
I'm interested ed kasper, santa cruz, ca -Original Message- damian wrote: I'm thinking of starting up a forum while i put together a site on esoteric thoughts and devices. This site will be strictly practical with schematics and hands on stuff. Such topics will be devices to talk to the dead, levitation, devices to induce deep trance and altered state, allong with much more. I wasnt orriginally going to put this info out simply because i wanted to try it out myself and have fun, but also were a bit scared as to what it could do in the wrong hands, but the way the world is and my budget i think now is a good time to discuss such stuff and share information. What i have at the moment is a whole lot of interelated ideas that when put together make a beautiful picture and are a testament to how great god is. When i say god i dont mean any god bellonging to a specific religion. too me god is the whole its that simple. Anyhow the reason im writing this email is to see if any are interested. It would be a great help if people who are handy with electronics joined allong with alternative thinking people. Some of the ideas are not new, and probably in the short term will be drawing allot on others matarial while i gather together my own for brousing. ANyhow I want to know peoples thoughts. Ok all take care damian PS I myself know only a little electronics so dont feel intimidated or stupid. All thoughts are welcome. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAnthrax CS
Stephen, I would like to hear more of your mix, how much, how strong of a extract, what mix. thanks, Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSElectricity/ current, ma., etc.
Wayne, I just want to be invited to our garage sale, when ya having one? ed, santa cruz, ca. -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 5:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectricity/ current, ma., etc. Evening Eleanor, Thanks, Harold. That's a beginning ;-) So, just for starters, what would the ma or current be coming off a pack of 3 9V batteries using let's say 14# wire? Or does it depend also on the changing ppm forming in the water? simple explanations for a simple mind. I compare making CS to wine making. Several years back, ( about 20 ) I was harvesting 8 to 9 tons of blackberries, 6 to 8 tons of assorted grapes, plus 15 tons of other produce per year, all in my spare time. Full time, I could grow and harvest 100 to 125 tons per years. Many of my customers were interested in wine making. I have never drank the stuff, and don't even like it. However, I read several books on wine making and some users said it was very good. I found most home wine makers knew nothing and did not want to study and learn about the technicalities of wine making. With this in mine, I told them all, and everyone else, there exist two ways to make wine. One is by the book, and the other is by the seat of the pants. Generally 95 % of these people made it by the seat of the pants. I think this same applies to making CS. If people don't know a volt from an amp, or a mili Siemens from a micro Siemens, and a mili amp from a transistor, then they should take some ones recipe and methods, use these, and be happy ever after. Even though I savvy lots of technical stuff, I consider I am still making CS by the seat of the pants. It works so good that way, as others here have stated. Of course I like technical things, gadgets and worthless projects. For example, before I quit drinking coffee, it seemed such a hassle filling the coffee maker every morning. So. I used timers, valves, leds, and push buttons and built a coffee pot filler. I placed the valves and hardware behind the wall and mounted all the controls on a two gang stainless plate. Mounted this on a two gang shallow wiremold box at the proper place on the cabinet over the coffee maker. I used flexible tubing and a short piece of rigid tubing directly over the coffee maker. Here is how it worked. One push button fills the coffee maker to the 100% full. Another button fills a half batch. The third one cancels and stops the water flow. Two timers are used and carefully calibrated. It stops at the right place. The push button allows one to add a small amount and / or stop the flow at any time. Since I quit drinking the nasty stuff, my wife who don't like gadgets and push buttons don't even use it. If I had not quit drinking coffee, I planned to make a hopper with my own feeding device to dump in the coffee, then a little more control stuff, and this would be near fully automatic. Putting the filter in automatically looks a bit mechanically complicated. Of course a robot to bring the coffee to the bed would be the final stage. Yes, it is all I can do to keep from making a more sophisticated CS maker with digital meters, regulated voltage for the digital meter, indicators for current, different settings for batch time, ect. Believe me, most people don't have the time, inclination, and know how to do all this. I think the choices are get technical or make it by the seat of the pants. Everyone I know in my territory are doing exactly that. And Eleanor, I did not mean this to discourage you or hamper you from doing more detailed and technical stuff. Your name just happened to get on the message. grin Like always, the technical types will answer questions for the ones that really want to get on the band wagon. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNo distilled water
for cheap steam distilled water try hooking up a tea kettle. Run copper tubing out the top and up about 2-3 feet. Keeping the water just at boiling (not rapid) helps keep the heavy minerals from steaming up with the water, as does the length of the tubing. reduce at top and spiral down to a collector. You can use the same set up as they do for making alcohol - but much easier. some reference sites: http://lorien.ncl.ac.uk/ming/distil/distil0.htm solar H2O distillers http://solstice.crest.org/efficiency/strawbale-list-archive/9706/msg00181.ht ml Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNo distilled water The other problem is I haven't yet found a source for steam-distilled water. At the pharmacies here (including Walmart) they only have demineralized/ozonated water with 10 ppm. I'll keep looking I guess, maybe make a trip across the border ;) You might consider purchasing a distiller. I have considered it. It gets to be a chore and a task picking up distilled water. Seems I am always running out. Presently I drink Reverse Osmosis water. Would the change from RO water to distilled water for drinking be a worthwhile move? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSionic silver
Rubbing alcohol will not do it. Just moves the bugs around does not kill them. (Insufficient time exposure) There is a high performance hygiene kit available from advanced health products 1-888-262-5700 that I would recommend. (No Commercial Interest) when using DMSO would use that first, then C-S (only) on the skin and wait some time then apply C-S with DMSO. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Dottie Glenn [mailto:dottsgar...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSionic silver I was telling my chiropractor about the cs/dmso mix and he also warned me about being sure your skin is absolutely clean because whatever is on your skin will be taken in with the dmso. He suggested rubbing alcohol. I'm kinda not to sure about that. Doesn't that have other stuff in it or does it dissipate as it dries? Dottie Dottie Glenn Original Message Follows From: Ed Kasper Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSionic silver Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 21:54:21 -0700 I've heard that DMSO easily passes through the skin barrier. One problem, however, may be that it may carry unfriendly critters along with it. So wouldn't it be necessary to first spray with full strength C-S allowing time for that to work prior to spraying with the C-S / DMSO combination. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Robert L. Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSionic silver Hi Ya'all; I have found that Brook's method of 20% DMSO and 80% ionic silver does a great job of penetrating both layers of the skin. That puts the CS where you want it, ina both layers and inside. My dog, a Great Pyrenees, had some red spots on her stomach about a 1/2 dia. I sprayed it with straight CS three times a day for several days and they went away. When I stopped spraying they came back. So I made the 20% DMSO solution and sprayed it abut three times and they are gone for good. So for me all surface applications will be with the DSMO mixture. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: CSA cure for GERD?
irritable bowel IR GERD Gastro Enteritis Reflex Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: sandyal...@aol.com [mailto:sandyal...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 9:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSA cure for GERD? What exactly does GERD stand for? SAndy
RE: CShelp for orchard
D'ya think this would work to keep the algae from forming in a outside fish pond ? Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShelp for orchard I don't think it is necessary to prevent the making of silver compounds for applications on plants. Therefore I would take a good source of current, like a battery charger, and hook it up with the + to a piece of silver or sterling silver (the colloidal copper you get is also good on plants), in the big tank, with the - attached to the tank. Then simply use the water that is in the tank. Don't even bother with distilled water for this application, same thing with swimming pools. Marshall Lynda Khula wrote: he has a big tank what ratio of cs do I mix with the water before spaying thanks for the help - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:53 PM Subject: Re: CShelp for orchard Nina Silver wrote: - Original Message - From: Lynda Khula ne...@clinic.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: CShelp for orchard need any info,,, have fruit trees and they have brown rot which from all the reading I am doing is a fungus any one know if the cs will help that just a thought.Lynda People have used CS very successfully for fungus and rot on plants. Experiment. You can use the CS liberally and it's okay if it gets into the soil. Actually you may not want to get large quantities in the soil. Bacteria are a very important element in the release of nutrients for plants, as well as in the manufacture of nitrogen fertilizer. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDrugs
Marshal sending you a private e-mail with the link http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/rxlist.cgi?drug=NorvascimageField.x=50imageField .y=16 regarding the drug Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: Battery Charger
No, I was just wondering why a car battery charger could not be used to make C-S and ROGER responded Ed: A 12 volt battery charger should work quite well, but its like using a musket to kill a gnat since battery chargers are capable of putting out 50 - 200 amps and 1-2 milliamps is all that you need. Roger There are 12 to 24 volt chargers and some have trickle charge or low amp charging as well as automatic cut off. Then I wouldn't have to use those 3-9 volt batteries or worry if the batteries are getting too low. ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Battery Charger I don't follow. Are you asking why a person who died couldn't be given CS then a battery charger put on them to bring them back to life? Marshall Ed Kasper wrote: the other day my car battery died and while I added distilled water and hooked up the battery charger I wondered why couldn't that work for C-S Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: Battery Charger
the other day my car battery died and while I added distilled water and hooked up the battery charger I wondered why couldn't that work for C-S Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSionic silver
I've heard that DMSO easily passes through the skin barrier. One problem, however, may be that it may carry unfriendly critters along with it. So wouldn't it be necessary to first spray with full strength C-S allowing time for that to work prior to spraying with the C-S / DMSO combination. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Robert L. Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSionic silver Hi Ya'all; I have found that Brook's method of 20% DMSO and 80% ionic silver does a great job of penetrating both layers of the skin. That puts the CS where you want it, ina both layers and inside. My dog, a Great Pyrenees, had some red spots on her stomach about a 1/2 dia. I sprayed it with straight CS three times a day for several days and they went away. When I stopped spraying they came back. So I made the 20% DMSO solution and sprayed it abut three times and they are gone for good. So for me all surface applications will be with the DSMO mixture. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS Scores for ME !
Wayne are you saying that you hook up your phone line ed -Original Message- snipped ... I made a 16 oz batch of CS using the phone line voltage, 52 VDC. Also used 4 drops of saline. This was about 11 pm. Run time, 10 minutessnipped Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: C-S H2O2 and Alkaline Water
Is there any reason why CS should be made using pure distilled water that has been Alkalinized and ozonated. Maybe in theory this has everything. just wondering Ed Kasper, Santa Cruz, CA. (people here lose sleep over these things) -Original Message- From: Damian [mailto:damian...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 5:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPreparing Consuming Silver, Copper, and Zinc Colloids From what ive been told by another person, both zinc and copper should be able to be created the same way as silver. I'm going to have to do a bit of study though before i consume the stuff. I've been reading up on colloids a bit but still have some way to go. I think basically the aim is to make the particles as small as possible. I've also been looking at the use of h2o2 to suppliment my theorapy. I have systemic candidiasis and it is suppose to get rid of it within 19 - 24 days. The silver colloid helps keep it under control so i dont have to take medication but dosnt get rid of it. Im a bit unsure about combining substances though and will have to do study it a bit more. I also have alopecia, and thyroid problems which copper and zinc is suppose to be excellent for which is why im interested in it. Im having a mate make me a alkaline.acid water convertor which is suppose to restructure the water as well. Im interested in how the structure of water can effect the metabolism. From what i can gather this device create water with wet electrons in it, which is like having a caged electron, surounded by hydrogen and oxygen bonds. I've only just started to look into all this stuff and man is there allot to learn. Ive started teaching mysefl basic chem so i can atleast understand it a bit. Im really interested in m state or ormus matarial, though it seems to hard to verify at the moment which is annoying. Ok too much babble better go. Take care damia
CSRE: pH tester
anyone know where I can obtain a reliable pH tester (- non-paper) range 2-10 or so thanks, Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSstriatonigral PARKINSON'S
Any and all information on Parkinson's would be GREATLY appreciated! Please e-mail privately as this may be off-topic. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:47 PM Don't know anything about striatonigral, but Parkinsons supposedly responds to Fish oil and flax oil in many cases. Marshall Terry Chamberlin wrote: Listers, Any ideas on an effective natural approach to striatonigral? (Similar to Parkinson's.) Terry -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScopper colloid
I understand that copper - as in a copper bracelet - will be absorbed by the skin. Not much, but one does not need much. If so I would question as to make CC. In the same thought both Gold and Silver do connect with the skin also on an energetic level. In TCM (traditional Chinese medicine folk lore, wrapping a piece of silver around one's ring finger helps stop a nosebleed. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFwd: Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP
I signed up and never received anything just the newsletter. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: bill...@cheerful.com [mailto:bill...@cheerful.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 5:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFwd: Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP Yep, I got my beta test products several weeks ago. Everything that I have ordered since then has arrived without a problem. question: I signed up for the co-op beta-test and never received my test kit. Neiher did the 3 people I got to sign up for it. The co-op sent a newsletter stating that some people would inevitably fall between the cracks and not get theirs. Did anyone on this list sign up for the beta-test and receive their order? Just wondering. GT Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Bill Hibernating in the North Country of NY Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
RE: CS - H202 (hydrogen peroxide)
They are not the same and the stuff you buy at the drug store which contains chemicals to stabilize the mix that are harmful when taken internally (but they say is OK for a mouth wash !!) A good reference for its use (Food grade H2O2) is Healing With Whole foods by Paul Pitchford IBN: 0-938190-64-4. 35% Food Grade H2O2 does not contain the stabilizers found in off the shelf 3% H2O2. 35% Food Grade H2O2 MUST be diluted is usually kept in the refrigerated section in the back room of health food stores. Once diluted to 3% one only takes a few drops per day. Dr Doonesbach (associated with TRC) has done extensive research and clinical use in his Santa Monica, Mexico Clinic. His product Oxy-Gen should be available at most HFS. I also sell their products http://www.happyherbalist.com/collodial_minerals.htm TRC's Oxy-Gen contains; each ounce contains 25 drops of 35% hydrogen peroxide (magnesium peroxide anaerobia oxygen). plus Aloe Vera with Mint Tea, Ginseng, Ginkgo, Bee Pollen, Zinc Glutamate, Suma, Citrus Pectin, Selenium, Chromium Polynicotinate, Myrrh, and Grape Skin. Dr Doonesbach states that H2O2 should be portion ally mixed with magnesium peroxide and that is his not so secret reason for success. The other stuff is healthful but really unnecessary additives though they do help with the after-taste of plain H2O2 Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist 417 Laurent St. Santa Cruz, CA. 95060 1-888-425-8827 http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com ... promote health, strengthen the immune system, improve appetite, relieve pain, improve overall quality of life and shrink the size of tumors. quoted from The University of Texas-Houston regarding essiac tea http://www.happyherbalist.com/essiac_tea.htm -Original Message- From: Gaston [mailto:obouc...@colba.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS - H202 (hydrogen peroxide) I have read a few messages referring to food grade type H202 and I cannot find food grade type in drug stores that I have asked. They are not familiar with food grade type H202. However, they do have hydrogen peroxide topical solution only at 3% H202, which, I beleive they do normally keep with prescription drugs. Would anyone be able to tell me if this is the food grade type that has been referred to pls ? Would appreciate anyone that can enlighten me on this subject. Thanks. Gaston -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNCH Tone Generator
I just downloaded a NCH Tone Generator from www.nch.com.au and the freq charts from www.Educate-Yourself.org -Frequency Charts has anyone used these. hey seem well set up. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFOUND a generator for concentrated CS
I understood Reid to say that this method was to be used for purification of the water filters so that once cleaned up they could be re-used. and not to be taken internally. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Allisons Apothecary [mailto:apothec...@home.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 7:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFOUND a generator for concentrated CS In my opinion, the particle size is going to be outrageous! You wouldn't be able to pay me enough money to take that stuff internally. Even if you dilute like he suggests, logic dictates that the particle size will remain the same. yuck! Yours in health, James Allison - Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters Other Supplements - - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: CSFOUND a generator for concentrated CS Thanks to those who responded to my appeal. I've located what appears to be a good generator for concentrated CS, at the link: http://educate-yourself.org/cslargevolumeprodinfo.html This generator will make 150ppm CS, a material which we can apply to our water purifiers then dry them for second and third applications. In this way will have adequate saturation. Thanks again, Reid Harvey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSReported Gatorade Content a Suggested Experiment AND Re: CSUrine in Big Trouble if You Try this at Home. Yes or No?
actually pee will go out through the skin but only when there is a backup. eddkas...@pacbel.net -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSReported Gatorade Content a Suggested Experiment AND Re: CSUrine in Big Trouble if You Try this at Home. Yes or No? No Actually, they analyzed sweat, [not pee] manufactured artificial sweat and flavored it. Ken At 01:58 PM 6/14/01 -0700, you wrote: It just struck me as very interesting that the major discussions recently has been on GATORADE and URINE. Sure I know that the commercials for Gatorade states that this miracle drink replaces the natural fluid that are lost but do ya think ... Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail: edkas...@pacbell.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSounds good to me
Count me in Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist 417 Laurent St. Santa Cruz, CA. 95060 fax or voice mail (520) 832-2204 edkas...@pacbell.net -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSounds good to me In a message dated 6/16/01 2:13:40 PM EST, svr9...@att.net writes: Subj: CSSounds good to me Date: 6/16/01 2:13:40 PM EST From: svr9...@att.net Reply-to: svr9...@att.net (svr) To:silver-list@eskimo.com Count me in. Steve Radcliff svr9...@att.net Thanks Steve. Are there any other takers? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS5 PPM Colloial Silver vs 10 PPM and Higher
Is there a web site /details of CS PRO HVAC system developed and sold by Bruce Marx. ? Ed Kasper -Original Message- Steve wrote: Finally ... the BYU lab test report was paid for by American Silver. Anyone know whether CS prepared by ITS process is any more effective against bacteria than CS made by regular methods, including homemade CS? If it IS more effective, does anyone know why that is so? The American Silver product is made using the HVAC process. In fact they filed for and received a patent for a machine that has 8 HVAC power supplies driving electrodes in a single 15 gallon tank. Each one of the 8 HVAC power supplies is identical to the CS PRO HVAC system developed and sold by Bruce Marx. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUrine in Big Trouble if You Try this at Home. Yes or No?
Actually in Traditional Chinese Medicine as well as many others, urine is very often used with great results. HOWEVER please note that it ONLY the urine from a baby boy preferably only 6 months old that is used in TCM. This is the natural source for growth hormones etc that is abundant in a baby boy. You definitely would not want urine from a urine bank just as blood from a blood bank is hazardous. FYI, most urine today prescribed mostly for women comes from mares (horses). The cost for this is extremely high just ask your local pharmacist. You can process a dry version yourself. Basically a fine spray mist into a heated element and the dried dust collected. A lot of medicinal research and advancement all over the world on this. BTW please note that my web site is down while I change servers. I can be reached at edkas...@pacbell.net Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUrine in Big Trouble if You Try this at Home. Yes or No? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSReported Gatorade Content a Suggested Experiment AND Re: CSUrine in Big Trouble if You Try this at Home. Yes or No?
It just struck me as very interesting that the major discussions recently has been on GATORADE and URINE. Sure I know that the commercials for Gatorade states that this miracle drink replaces the natural fluid that are lost but do ya think ... Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail: edkas...@pacbell.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS DMSO
the only problem I've heard of DMSO is that it too excellent of a delivery system. In other words it will take everything along with it - right to the bone ! Now if all that is in solution is good stuff FINE but what if some of the many pathogens lying on the skin go along for the ride as well !!! Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail edkas...@pacbell.net -Original Message- From: Beverle Sweitzer [mailto:aber...@erols.com] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS DMSO I read this interesting article the other day about using DMSO as a delivery system for vitamin B12 and wondered if it could also be used for CS application. Don't holler at me for being dumb if this has been asked before. Thanks, Beverle
RE: CSUrine good?
The body gets rid of the toxins. It is not good UNLESS it is from baby - prior to learning how to put all the crap into our system so in latter life we have something to do trying to guess on how to get rid of all that we did. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail edkas...@pacbell.net -Original Message- From: Harold MacDonald [mailto:har...@direct.ca] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUrine good? If it's so damned good,why is the body so anxious to get rid of it??? Harold.
RE: CSstirring motors
I like that thinking. And just think what my CD ROM could do! Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Johan van den Berkt [mailto:van-den-be...@planet.nl] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSstirring motors just place the CS container on an old recordplayer, and hold still the electrodes and have 33 rmp / 45 rpm what ever you like. greetings johan van den Berkt ( the Netherlands)
CSSaline added
Silver Solutions unit that I have is a simple three 9 volt batteries in a series. 2 six inch silver wires were included. He recommends addiding one drop of a saline solution to 16 ounces of water. 4-5 inches of the silver wires are immersed into the water. For each minute of activation he states 1 PPM of C-S is created. 16 oz @ 72 degrees + 8 minutes = 5 PPM. If the water is heated to 82 degrees then he achieves 10 PPM, 92 degrees = 20 PPM and 102 degrees at 8 minutes = 40 PPM Longer times would be necessary if the saline solution was not added and a Golden Color would also develop. Almost right away one sees the electrolysis and a silvery cloud forming. One wire turns black. This method sounds much faster than most of the ones I heard on this list and was wondering about other opinions? Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSaline added
OK Ole Bob, Its certainly worth at least half that price if not more. I would like to send you some samples anyway to test (sure like to know what I've been drinking) I will look through all the old posts and start on making a brand new New Age C-S machine. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Robert L. Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSaline added Hello Ed Kasper; Who ever sold you that unit is still in the dark ages of colloidal silver. I ran across that method in 1997 and investigated it and it is technically speaking BALONEY. Now Ole Bob is not known for his diplomacy. I'll make a deal with you, You follow those instructions for making a 5 PPM CS and send me a two ounce sample, and I will test it with my spectrophotometer. If it is 5 PPM or more then the test is free. If it is not the I want double my $7.50 fee. :-) I am a registered professional engineer and I will put my seal upon the report. I know you are new on the list, so just for review I have several hundreds of documented data runs of making CS from 12 v dc to 380 v dc and 780 vac to 15,000v ac. With various spacings, wet lengths, with and without stirring, constant voltage, constant current and polarity switching. I have made over 500 PPM test for CS. To quote either Robert Benchley or P. G. Wodehouse, when I throw rocks at sea birds I leave not tern unstoned. That has been industrial career for many years. Please review the archives, as there has been many thousands of hours of work done by the researchers on this list. The use of salt is not necessary nor adviseable. If one wants to shorten the time then use CS as an additive. Chuck, my grumpy pills are not for sale. they are to hard to manufacture. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #556; att'n Ole Bob, others re motor controller
What about those cute but useless SOLAR MOTORS. Haven't seen one for awhile but thought one dose not need much power but motion to keep things flowing. Just by two cents ... (hey if some on says ... a penny for your thought and you give them your 2 cents worth ... where does the other penny go ? Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: aub...@att.net [mailto:aub...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 12:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #556; att'n Ole Bob, others re motor controller Hi from Joe: Bob - placed an order, due in a wk; thanks for the tip, sounds like what I need. They said $3.50 @. [800 826 5432]. If you don't have an AC PWM controller already, their cost is way more than the EM-114 sol'n. Re operation from 115 Vac - all modern drill motors, etc. are run by pulse width modulation of the line current, up to about 90% of the positive wave for ac motors both + - peaks. They rely on the motor inductance to smooth the current between on time gaps. You'll hear feel buzzing at low speeds w a drill motor because the gap between pulses is large. Torque is way down too, it's why the PWM process works as a speed control. Don't need frequency change [for small loads like this; I've dealt w them before the entry fee starts at about $500, WON'T work w permanent magnet motors]. Re 6 Vdc supply - you'll find it hard to locate 1 w a current rating of 1 amp; use of less will kill it in a while [there's no internal protection for overloads is the most common death cause]. Besides, that exceeds the motor rating by x 2 - 4 has no current control, so will cook the motor [if it survives that long]. Can't use a zener diode to drop the supply voltage unless it has a power rating of at least 1 W / volt dropped which puts it out of reach [an industrial application]. Ex. - if you have a strong 6 Vdc supply need 2 V to the motor, you would need 8 zeners in parallel to get the 2 V w/o killing them [at 1/2 W each]. Guess it's feasible but it's not 'sanitary'. Re train transformers - will need a rectifier diode to make this permanent magnet motor run; 2 1N4000 in parallel should get the power rating to handle the continuous motor I. See? Bob's sol'n is pretty nice. Best I've seen. Bye. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #553; agitation motors
Why don't you use the silver wire for the stir? Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Robert L. Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #553; agitation motors Joe, Make the stirrer out of a 2-3 length of #14 copper wire insulation and shove it on the shaft. As for sppe control All electronics, 1-800-826-5432, part #EM-114 $3.50 is a pulse width modulated motor speed control. I have sold a bunch to people for just this purpose. I generally leave the copper inside with about 1/4 removed to fit the motor shaft, and then I make 15 deg bend about 3/4 from the bottom end. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe[2]: CSOT-Chemtrails micoplasma
The NUMBER ONE Health Advance -- clean water and good sewers. That one thing has saved more lives and increased life expectancy than everything else combined. And when that fails so goes our health. C-S needs pure water and our bodies need pure water to carry the toxins out of our bodies. The minimum amount of pure water (not juice or fluid) is 1/2 of your body weight in ounces of pure water each day - more if you are releasing built up toxins. So if you weigh 10 pounds drink 50 ounces of pure water! The amount of C-S going in probably should be based on a weight to fluid ratio as well, but one should remember to do both. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist ... promote health, strengthen the immune system, improve appetite, relieve pain, improve overall quality of life and shrink the size of tumors. quoted from The University of Texas-Houston regarding essiac tea http://www.happyherbalist.com/essiac_tea.htm Free Office Visit online at http://www.happyherbalist.com/tcm_Herbal_Diagnosis.htm Free Treatment for Parkinson's. - Recovery is Possible http://www.happyherbalist.com/parkinsons_treatment.htm Free Kombucha, free Samples, Recipes and brewing tips http://www.happyherbalist.com/free_Kombucha.htm -Original Message- From: Solar [mailto:so...@neo.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 7:24 AM To: silver list Subject: CSRe[2]: CSOT-Chemtrails micoplasma Hello Ode, Tuesday, June 05, 2001, 11:37:39 AM, you wrote: OC BTW, back when farmers used organic methods by default [no chemicals OC available] the average life expectancy was somewhere around 50 yrs. OC Musta been the chemtrails. OC Ken Ken: Back in those days, a lot of children died from common illnesses. This SERIOUSLY skewed the statistic of average life expectancy. How many children under the age of 1 does it take to offset those who lived beyond 80 years? Not many. How many people do you know who had an illness when they were young (under age 10) that would have killed them were it not for antibiotics (such as pneumonia)? How about something as simple as a cut getting infected? A lot of people used to die from infections that are easily eradicated today. That is why, traditionally, families used to be larger. People expected to lose a child or two along the way. This doesn't even begin to account for all of those youngsters (under age 25) who were killed in the various wars and skermishes. I seriously doubt that pouring chemicals on our foods is making us live longer. -- Best regards, Solar -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSgeneric co-op
Don't two dis-similar metals cause a reaction by itself. Most wires are copper or aluminum alloys where connected to the silver will cause at least a microscopic reaction. Just a thought for purists Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com
CSprotocol information
Ivan, please tell me where you posted the protocol information, much thanks, ed kasper, santa cruz, ca. -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 5:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGood Quote?? Larry, I have posted a protocol for generating CS, a year or so ago (subject: simple generator), which uses a 9V AC adaptor, no stirring or bubbling required, which produces 10ppm CS in 2 or 3 hours. The CS is clear with very little Tyndall effect, and remains stable for a very long time...more than a year so far. I have 20ppm CS generated about three years ago (25L batch) that still tests at 20ppm, there was some thermal convection involved. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: larry tankersley [mailto:la...@webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2001 13:19 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGood Quote?? Frank ,is this a valid quote found on a page from www.cat007.com Last night I spoke with Frank Key, the scientist who owns the laboratory. He observed, You have stumbled on to a fine way to make CS. He did state that the potency would diminish over time and suggested that one make a new batch every fortnight. Considering that costs you nothing it makes sense. He said the secret was the low voltage and the fish pump. I thought it was due to more oxygen in the water. He stated it was because of the introduction of carbon dioxide, explaining in chemical terms which were over my head. The fish pump in 100% vital to the process. larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBleeding ulcer/ stroke
If the blood is Bright Red - then its probably from hemorrhoids or someplace closer to the surface. IF its dark or black blood than its much more serious and from the interior. Both Cumin and Aspirin can damage the stomach lining causing bleeding. (generally safe but ...) Consider garlic, gingko or my choice - vinegar (one teaspoon per day). Also Kombucha Tea seems to another miracle cure (though it works opposite as C-S) When taking these, I'd suggest taking C-S a few hours apart from any of the above. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com hea...@happyherbalist.com free samples: http://www.happyherbalist.com/Free_Samples.htm Recipes, Kombucha Tea, and Pure Distilled Kombucha Vinegar -Original Message- From: Arthur Rambo [mailto:alltogether...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:19 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBleeding ulcer/ stroke Hello all, I have a friend that has recently had a valve job, and now takes Cuminin to thin the blood, along with baby aspirin. 3 days ago he had a mini stroke. He is having internal bleeding from somewhere, and seeing black stools. Does anyone hae experience with this; can you advise? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFw: CSPeople dealing with cancer-almonds
In Chinese Herbs, there are Xing Ren (apricot kernel) and Tao Ren (peach kernel) which holds promise as to what you speak. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com d...@happyherbalist.com ... promote health, strengthen the immune system, improve appetite, relieve pain, improve overall quality of life and shrink the size of tumors. quoted from The University of Texas-Houston regarding essiac tea http://www.happyherbalist.com/essiac_tea.htm Free Office Visit online at http://www.happyherbalist.com/tcm_Herbal_Diagnosis.htm Free Treatment for Parkinson's. - Recovery is Possible http://www.happyherbalist.com/parkinsons_treatment.htm Free Kombucha, free Samples, Recipes and brewing tips http://www.happyherbalist.com/free_Kombucha.htm -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 4:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSFw: CSPeople dealing with cancer-almonds Hi Dean, No, bitter almonds (hard to find in this day and age) and sweet almonds are two different nuts, and neither are apricots. Bitter almonds have a high amount of the active ingredient (as do apricot pits) and sweet almonds little. Yes I believe heat affects the availability of the cyanide precursor. Regards Ivan -Original Message- From: Dean T. Miller [mailto:dtmil...@midiowa.net] Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 21:31 To: *Silver-List* Subject: Re: CSFw: CSPeople dealing with cancer-almonds Hi Ivan, On Sat, 26 May 2001 17:01:48 +1200, Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz wrote: The Almonds have to be bitter, which are not the supermarket type. Lookup vitamin B17 or laetril sp. Bitter almonds (apricot pits) have a lot more B17, but regular almonds have some. But -- as far as I know, they should be raw, not roasted (heating destroys B vitamins, but I don't know if that's true of B17). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
