Re: CSThe Lethal Science Of Splenda - A PoisonousChlorocarbonat News Breaking Healt
hi ode make ourselves vacant enough to tolerate living. how superb a phrase and how accurate. salute. william On Tuesday, July 26, 2005, at 07:05 PM, Ode Coyote wrote: When people start to hold other people responsible for our actions and ignorance, be it via insurance, litigation or demand for legislation, when kids can no longer make mistakes and the world must become 'safe'that's the day that people discover that they are no longer 'allowed' to act and never learn how. Silicone choke proof people. How nice. How fail safe interlocked and bound to the rulebook. How dull. May we all live in perfect safety, ignorance and blamelessness till we die of absolute boredom..or make ourselves vacant enough to tolerate living. Enforced Incompetence is on the march. Ode At 09:42 AM 7/26/2005 -0500, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline From: Ode Coyote wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:24:23 Never mind. Airhead Chokeproof Barbie is gesturing me over with her inarticulated elbows sayin' Oh, He's a 'pretty' fart smeller! Pull my string, Barbie! ### Sorry Mike..I guess we all have our rubber axes to grind on our styrofoam grinders. Where's my rubber nails? end of thread? Ode __ We can only follow you so far Ode. You're on your own now... (Bon voyage) Dan ;-)) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5 - Release Date: 7/25/2005
CScycles in history and hemp and the 60's and the coming age
there are many theories of cycles in history. i traded the stock market for years and eventually became a subscriber to www.elliotwave.com. the aging guru of elliotwave interpretations has made a wonderful case for the stock market being a record of cycles in human society. according to elliotwave theory, we have entered the biggest phase of break-up from the centrist movement (fascism being the ultimate expression of consolidation) starting in the early 80's. i tell people we are entering a phase that will make the 60's look like a house party. this time will be a block party. lot's of tumult and social breakdown and opportunity for experiments with alternative ways. central authority and authority in itself will be under constant attack. well, interesting enuf, hemp is returning to the mainstream in many ways and the marijuana leaf of the sixties is returning as the hemp leaf of this new cycle. so, marijuana sister plant, is returning in a broader movement touting hemp and it's unique qualities, as a sign of the changing, but returning cycle. On Tuesday, July 19, 2005, at 12:43 AM, Ole Alstrup wrote: Hi Ernie, Well, so far it didnt change all THAT much. This Vega stuff is really fringe, but I sure hope we will see a transition towards such in the coming years, as it is solidly based in cutting edge nutritional science. Other similar products out there, but Vega is ahead of the others so far. We are also beginning to see some of the sports companies offering green powders, so who knows what will happen, maybe sooner than later? But I think it will take a long time for people to realize that whey/grain sugar powders may not be in their best interest. Let's see what happens with organic hemp and rice protein sources, especially hemp is so exciting, lots of potential there, what to speak of the impact on ecology, my God! - Ole How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos
Re: CSLymes
Once one starts really digging more deeply, it can be found that for any given diet or treatment of any kind, almost none work for more than about half the people who try it. **in alternative medicine in particular, i always tell people not to get discouraged and keep trying methods that are relatively low cost and have few downsides to them. takes time and application, but the alternative is western med. and their problems. CS being the only one I actually know of so far. It may not work for everyone, but I think it's success rate is much higher than 50%. **for me and lyme, silver has definitely helped which supprised me greatly. lyme disease opened my eyes to alternatives that i totally dismissed before. hey, try DMSO for sprains, strains, and soft tissue injury. if i knew about this other cheap simple substance i would have saved myself a lot of agony in the past with twisted ankles, jammed fingers, etc.. DMSO also really works helping to deliver CS to infected gums. H2O2 also can help teeth and gums. sol Marshall Dudley wrote: Yep, to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNeed advice on eradicating Borrelia Burgdorferi
well, the basic deal is the silver-puppy works great. do the silver on an empty stomach. twice a day around two ounces is my recommendation. numbers of rife machines are proven performers for lyme. some of the ones i know are the doug coil, the b3 with amp, and the emem3d. i have used the emem3d with success. i am not cured, but i hear it may take years. many lymies buy multiple machines in their quest. these things work!. i promise it. so does colloidal silver. On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, at 04:05 PM, fl...@aol.com wrote: Hello Group, I am trying to rid myself of borrelia burgdorferi and would appreciate any input on how to accomplish it. Long term antibiotics seemed to have had little or no effect. This has really taken a toll on me and in turn on my family as well. I have a Silverpuppy generator. Any advice is welcome. Thanks, Dana
Re: CSImmune system and CS strength
as far as shelf life: my personal leaning is that fresh made cs is superior to days old stuff. so, given my experience with the effectiveness of homemade cs, i suggest making it at home in small quantities and remaking it as neccesary. On Sunday, May 1, 2005, at 07:59 PM, lkfields wrote: I have two questions concerning Colloidal Silver. The first question deals with immunity and CS. I know from experience and research that heavy use of antibiotics results in a compromised immune system. The immune system comes to depend heavily on the antibiotics to fight disease and soon the antibiotics become necessary to fight off even the simplest of germs. Does this happen with CS? Why or why not? I have heard comments from several friends about colloidal silver having a shelf life or losing its potency. A friend that has made CS for years states that towards the end of his bottle (8 ounces) he can tell the CS is not as potent anymore, like it has lost its charge. He notices that it is not as effective. A friend that owns an herb shop says the CS is susceptible to light and must be in a dark glass container and must be handled carefully. I have read online that the CS does NOT need to be in a dark or amber colored glass. My question is.. Does CS have a shelf life? How long is it? What things besides freezing effect CS? Why would CS become contaminated and not useful anymore? If CS kills whatever germs it comes into contact with, how could CS possibly get contaminated by a Q-tip or cotton ball coming into contact with it? I have searched online for these answers and I will have to tell you the information out there is varied and contradictive. I value the opinions and findings of the many learned people here on list. Thank you so much in advance for any help you can offer. Lori -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsilver and lyme
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_258/ai_n8592734 Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, Jan, 2005 by Robert W. Bradford, Henry W. Allen Lyme disease, potential plague of the 21st century detection problems resolved by imaging with the Bradford Variable Projection High Resolution Microscope Robert W. Bradford Introduction ...Bb also has a three-layer cell wall, helping to determine the spiral shape of the spirochete. This distinctive cell wall resembles those of Gram-negative bacteria, although Bb does not stain Gram-negative but is stained by silver stains (containing silver nitrate). This characteristic may be related to the purported treatment of Lyme disease by colloidal silver. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs:vitaminC per LEF
well, it seems from my reading that vitamin c changes it's biological properties as you go up towads 20 grams. some claim it becomes a pro-oxidant. this status may give it a peculiar ability to kill viruses. On Thursday, April 14, 2005, at 08:30 PM, David S Osborne wrote: http://www.lef.org/news/LefDailyNews.htm?NewsID=2073Section=VITAMINSsou rce=DHB100key=Body+ContinueReading ...interesting, about vitamin C From LEF davido -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking H2O2?
hi coyote that was the most fascinating take on h2o2 i have ever read. it seems bizarre that h2o2 is actually used with silver in these processes. wow, and here we are very aware of the unusual properties of these molecules. On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, at 10:40 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: H2O2 is not easy to make. My gearhead side wants it to be cheap and easy as an alternative to NOS..it isn't. [Dangit] It's not just a matter of running ozone [from electrical activity such as lightning] through water. Do lightning storms really make hydrogen peroxide? ..Maybe a little bit, and a lot of ozone. See http://www.cheresources.com/h2o2.shtml I don't think this is 'very' true..maybe a 'little bit' true. [Ode] http://www.falconblanco.com/health/supplements/hydrogen.htm Hydrogen peroxide, the partner to ozone, is more properly called oxygen water, since it is water with an extra oxygen molecule. Hydrogen Peroxide is created in the atmosphere when ultraviolet light strikes oxygen in the presence of moisture. Ozone (03) is free oxygen (02) plus an extra atom of oxygen. When it comes into contact with water, this extra atom of oxygen splits off very easily. Water (H20) combines with the extra atom of oxygen and becomes hydrogen peroxide ( H2O2). hydrogen peroxide equilibrium ... how come when you add ozone to water it doesent make hydrogen peroxide? http://www.du.edu/~jcalvert/phys/perox.htm In 1818, Thénard discovered that it made another hydride, H2O2, hydrogen peroxide, which was similar to water but had peculiar properties. This article will look at these oxygen compounds, with an emphasis on hydrogen peroxide.. This was the source of the power for the fuel pumps of the V-2 rocket missile of World War II, whose main fuel was alcohol and liquid oxygen. The first catalyst was calcium permanganate, but later silver mesh proved superior. The industrial process for making concentrated hydrogen peroxide, now widely used, was developed in connection with this use... ..other stuff... http://science.howstuffworks.com/question159.htm Can you make a rocket engine using hydrogen peroxide and silver? At a drag race, I once saw a rocket car that was supposedly powered by spraying hydrogen peroxide on a silver mesh. Hydrogen peroxide and silver really do react that way. The hydrogen peroxide has to be extremely concentrated for it to work -- around 90 percent, compared to drug store hydrogen peroxide that is sold at a concentration of 3 percent. If you have a 90-percent concentration like that, hydrogen peroxide makes a great rocket propellant! Hydrogen peroxide's chemical formula is H2O2. When it comes into contact with silver, the silver acts as a catalyst. The reaction frees the extra oxygen atom to produce water, and also generates a lot of heat. The heat turns the water into steam, which the engine can eject at a very high speed through a rocket nozzle. Used in this way, hydrogen peroxide is a monopropellant. Compared to a normal rocket engine that burns two different chemicals (a fuel and an oxidizer), a hydrogen-peroxide engine is very cool and relatively safe. It is also very easy to throttle. http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/3/0/64895803.html Whenever you make hydrogen peroxide with conventional methods, you use a really complicated process with starting materials that are toxic and the process cost is high, he explained. Using a nanocatalyst, you can just combine hydrogen and oxygen -- two very clean and simple molecules to procure -- to produce hydrogen peroxide, and that's with 90 percent selectivity in large-scale tests, much higher than any other catalysts used to make hydrogen peroxide. + +++ At 09:18 PM 4/5/2005 -0400, you wrote: I know that thunderstorms produce H2O2 in the rainwater. Does anyone know how to make H2O2? It has to be electrical. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.0.0 - Release Date: 11/8/2004 --GMAIL-4253F4984670Content-Type: text/plain; x-avgÎrt; charseto-8859-1; x-avg-checkedg-ok-190B6EBD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 265.0.0 - Release Date: 11/8/2004 Internal Virus Database is
Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol
my 2 cents i read once of a very well researched study on heart attacks, cholesterol, and cholesterol lowering drugs. seemed those on the drugs had less heart attacks, but died as frequently. seems the lower cholesterol -or the drugs- made them more angry and impulsive. they died at higher rates than controls of murder, accident, and suicide. believe it. On Thursday, March 10, 2005, at 09:18 PM, sol wrote: Here is an example, sort of. One of my husband's co-workers who thought he was in fine shape, felt healthy, was active, etc, had his routine physical and was found to have high cholesterol. He was put on a cholesterol lowering drug, and has felt horrible ever since, no longer very active as he feels ill. When he complained about feeling horrible on the drug, he was given an additional drug to counteract the side effects of the cholesterol lowering drug. He now feels even worse. If he keeps this up, he'll probably die of the efforts to lower his cholesterol, after feeling sick for a few years first, of course. sol Duncan Crow wrote: High cholesterol has never been linked to heart disease. The whole thing is a sham propagated by Big Industry. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 3/9/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSR.I.P. Himagain
the beginning of my understanding of one major aspect of how people react and perceive was understanding how ronald reagan was labelled the teflon president. reagan rolled merrily on his way telling jokes and staying on message. he did not engage his detractors. in general: people will take their cues about you by how you act. i find that people acting from a fear place will act and re-act fearfully and angrily to both legitimate threats and illegitimate ones. words are rarily a real threat. certainly nothing on this list in a dispute those operating from fearful ego's will become engaged as their fears are engaged. i seperate communication into two parts: 1) the actual information 2)possible bias or ill-will on the part of the other both of these information sets are informative and neutral. if someone says things that are charged and irrational all one has to do is refute the specifics. if one acts charged and irrational than... in society we need to take some injury to stay in society. we build our relations by being helpful and not disruptive. in general this is the proper path. also remember, things come out in the wash. if one is fearful and angry you will find others who are fearful and angry. if one is helpful and aware, one will meet more and more others like this. i find almost all people who have done me wrong eventually show up as these type of people and have relations along these lines. meanwhile, what i am doing seems to create more and more relations relating to my thoughts and behavior. is that good or bad? depends on what one is doing. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOpen letter to the Silver List
the system -the entire system is broken. it will not be fixed by normal means as the norm is now...? all one has to do is look around with open eyes..., very calmly and quietly. not easy to do. first ones body and mind need to experience some calm. that means withdrawal from addictions and distractions and entertainment. On Sunday, March 6, 2005, at 07:51 PM, alltogether...@webtv.net wrote: How about you? Since you asked, I will tell you; I have been denied non-toxic treatment of IV vitamin C by the culture of fear that rules the AMA and FDA. I won't bother everyone with the details; just invite you to find a mainstream doc who knows of it, or endorses it, and an insurance co. that will pay for it. The ones who will do it risk their license. There is a patent for tetracil; a silver solution that cures aids. Do you see it on the news? There is a silver catheter method that results in hiv, and hcv negative blood test. You have to go to Mexico to get it. Look up doctor Burzynski out of Texas, re: Cancer. My doctor in Md.was harrassed until he had to move to Wash DC. Codex; do I need to say more? Sorry that the negatives are getting to you, but I'm glad people are grumbling. We are getting pissed off and more numerous. That makes me happy as hell. I am fed up with being managed like a farm animal. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCould CS help avoid a root canal?
add the dmso to the cs mixture and deliver it to your mouth however you find effective and convenient. for acute cases, soaking a piece of cotton with the two and planting it between the cheek and gun next to tooth is the best way. for chronic, try brushing with the mixture, rinsing and leaving some residue in the mouth. 90% cs, 10% dmso solution. you can vary this as you like. best is fresh homemade cs. On Monday, February 28, 2005, at 04:13 PM, flpplan...@aol.com wrote: I was told almost five months ago by my dentist that I need a root canal for one of my upper molars because of the infection around (or in) the roots of that tooth (as shown by X-ray). I said No at the time, largely because of my concerns about the long-term toxicity of root-canaled teeth (according to some dental practitioners). So, I was given a penicillin-like antibiotic which eliminated the pain, but the pain has been slowly and gradually returning during the last three months. Given my dislike for antibiotics and my suspicion about the dangers of root canals, I'm looking for alternatives. I assume that CS would kill the noxious bacteria around the roots of my infected tooth if there was a way to deliver CS to the site of the infection (which undoubtedly likes below and inside gum tissue). Could drinking a certain quantity of CS for a certain period of time be helpful? Gargling with CS or spraying the infected tooth and surrounding tissue with CS would seem to be inadequate because it's not likely that CS could get into and under the skin at the point of infection. Could I be wrong about that? Your thoughts about this will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Christy Barton Columbia, MO flpplan...@aol.com
Re: CSvaricose veins question
i had sclerotherapy on some of my varicose veins ten years ago. so far they have not returned. varicose veins are veins on the outside of the muscle sheaths. we also have veins inside these sheaths. these are the veins that do the main work and they seem to be protected more -or completely- from becoming variscosities. varicose veins often run in families. i have noticed the SAME vein in my brother and i causing a problem. they look the same. my cousin too. this is primarily a genetic or constitutional issue. removing these veins should not cause a recurance. eating a natural diet lower in saturated fats, exercise, not standing or sitting more than neccesary, having easy bowel movements: these will help lessen the load on any potential varicose veins in the future. spider veins, broken capilaries, easy bruising, are probably not highly related to varicose veins. these are mainly a diet and nutrition issue. bottomline: your friend has a good chance with some care of not having a return of her problems. On Wednesday, February 16, 2005, at 10:47 AM, sol wrote: Just for my own information. Is surgical stripping or laser sealing of varicose veins a permanent cure? I was speaking to a friend who had this surgery done a year ago, and she got angry at me because I told her I believed the underlying problems that allows the varicosities to happen in the first place is still there, and unless addressed other veins in her feet/legs will varicose eventually. I mean she was obviously terribly insulted by my opinion. She is an extremely active person, walking miles daily, a lot of it up and down steepish hills, this isn't new, she has always been active and walked like that, even while and before she developed terrible varicose veins. She now says the walking is protecting her from getting any more, but that doesn't seem likely, if she was also walking as and before she got them in the first place? In the interest of fairness, I thought I'd ask just in case I'm wrong and she is right and she is cured. TIA, sol -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSvaricose veins question, was
on the contrary, removing low functioning veins actually improves circulation to the heart. the remaining veins in the muscle sheath easily carry the load and blood stagnates less in bad veins. i have varicose veins, i eat an excellent diet, and i am very thin. It is always best to attack the cause rather than work on the symptoms. Varicose veins are a symptom of major problems. When one strips veins it removes a bit of the circulation back to the heart putting a larger load on the remaining veins...hence an exacerbation of the problem...not a cure. She needs to ask the question...why do I have this problem. Overweight perhaps? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSjoke about right to bear arms
the discussion about arms i recognize being off-topic. just so m. devour knows (our list moderator) one of our comics said: i went to the canadian border, the guard asked me if i had any firearms, i said what do you need? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSo2 concentrator
they only go up to about 8psi for decent home concentrator. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net Sent: Dec 1, 2004 10:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSA good nebulizer for CS O2 concentrator would build up to 20 PSI?? Probably not. I know little of them. You would probably need a pump. JOH -Original Message- From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSA good nebulizer for CS I have an O2 concentrator. Are you saying I can run this Harbor Freight airbrush off of it? I thought it would harm the concentrator's compressor. I already have the HF airbrush. I'm thinking I can do this with a diversion relief valve that I tighten when I want O2 fed under pressure to the airbrush for a few seconds. A few seconds strain should not harm the concentrator's compressor??? I have an AirSep concentrator. The lowest flow rate it goes at 1.5 liters per minute. Otherwise it shuts down. configured, when attached to a standard welders O2 regulator or medical regulator set to about 20 PSI, to make a finer particle than the best O2 concentrator would build up to 20 PSI?? Dan - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:28 PM Subject: RE: CSA good nebulizer for CS Other than having a ferrous top in the glass liquid container, the unit is well-made, mostly of brass. Yes, some of the small parts are a bit less than hi-tech, they do the job. I have used one for years without breaking anything. They sell for about 8 Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Devices, but I have seen them on sale for about 5. No electricity required... Can be run on an oxygen generator without having an outside source of bottled O2. That's why. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSA good nebulizer for CS Brooks Bradley's research team at the Harborne Foundation determined with clinical experience that CS dispersed in 02, ---a colloid within a colloid---was significantly more effective than the CS alone. DMSO is a further improvement, particularly when a lot of fluid or mucus is a factor. They also determined that a Harbor Freight Taiwan artist's airbrush could be configured, when attached to a standard welders O2 regulator or medical regulator set to about 20 PSI, to make a finer particle than the best medical nebulizers. Held about 1.5 inches from the hand, no spray is seen being emitted from the nozzle, but your hand gets wet. There is no intent to blast the aerosol into your system or lungs; it is nly a method of making a very fine-particle suspension available for normal inspiration. Air may be used if it is absolutely clean. -Original Message- From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSA good nebulizer for CS Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer, Why is that? Because the airbrush shoots the CS/DMSO/MSM mist deep into the lungs? Why is oxygen better than compressed air to use in this airbrush set up? but each of these nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts! Dan __ - Original Message - From: Jason resea...@silvermedicine.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:37 AM Subject: Re: CSA good nebulizer for CS Hi Christine: I'll agree that the Omron CompAir Elite is a good unit. I have one. I would prefer the Omron Ultrasonic, but at the time of my own purchase, I didn't want to afford to the more expensive unit. The ultrasonic unit produces a finer mist, but is roughly $60-100 more expensive. Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer, but each of these nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts! Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: cmccau...@kayescholer.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:24 AM Subject: CSA good nebulizer for CS Thought I would share this with you all. I use the OMROM CompAir Elite nebulizer with my CS and it works wonderfully. I've used it on myself and my birds and have only good things to say about it. It is very small, portable, relatively quiet and easy to use. It has adapters for the car and can be used with both AC and DC I think. Here's a link to show you what it looks like: http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm I did not get mine here. This site was from a random websearch. I just picked with site because it has a decent picture and good explanation of the nebulizer's features. I bought mine brand new on Ebay for $50.00, shipping included.
Re: CSRe:FDA was silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
-Original Message- From: Paul Holloway p.j.hollo...@btinternet.com Sent: Nov 23, 2004 5:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe:FDA was silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) This is the mentality of the FDA: that, my friend, is the kind of twisted and creative logic that will get us all to heaven. Richard Bandler (the Neurolinguistic Programming guy) tried marketing a placebo, but predictably the FDA didn't like it. The following is from his book Time For A Change: You may have thought a placebo works because the person doesn't know it's a placebo. It works because of belief. In the USA we do an unusual thing. We test all drugs against placebos. That's what a double-blind test does. So we have more information on placebos than we have on all drugs put together. Robert Dilts and I had an idea. We decided to put out a product, tiny empty capsules, called Placebo. No side effects. Robert was my grad student at the time. He reviewed the research on standard problems like headaches. We made plans to publish a little booklet with an index. A person would look up headaches and read, When tested against other drugs, placebos work five out of six times. Then it would say, Take seven when you have a headache. It's a sure thing. The FDA complained. They told us the effects would wear off. Placebo would lose its efficacy. We knew that could happen. Some people would not get the beliefs built in tenaciously the first time. We revealed our backup plan. NEW! PLACEBO PLUS! TWICE THE INERT INGREDIENTS! TWICE AS POWERFUL AS EVER BEFORE! Of course, drug companies run the FDA. So they wouldn't let us do it. They couldn't find any danger. The capsules were empty. There was nothing there. They told us this was illegal and immoral. Besides, they said, it will never work, so we won't let you do it. We had proved that it would work. We had decades of their experimental results from them. We also had our own results. My clients often knew a placebo when they got one. They still do. I actually give them the ability to believe that it works because it is a placebo. I explain that since they already know it for a placebo, it will work forever. It does. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS and lyme disease
my lyme disease is going ok. but i have used CS and special prescribed garlic capsules at times to fight it. also a rife machine. also immunopro rx whey protein. CS may not work for everyone, but in my case the homemade CS was as powerful as oral doxycylene. in my case the CS was very effective and cheap! i still have a touch of chronic lyme, but i am hoping soon to reinstitute a consistent program to deal with it. try avoiding all alcohol and sweeteners. that helps with me. it is completely worth buying one of the quality CS generators, properly making the stuff with distilled water, and dosing yourself at least once a day on an empty stomach. twice is better, but i got results with once a day. i was only doing 2 ounces a day. people on our list have done a lot more. but the stuff has worked for a lot of lymies. On Sep 8, 2004, at 9:41 PM, Teresa Lucher wrote: I just joined the group last wk, and was thinking I would hear more talk on using CS for the lyme disease. Are there any other lymies in the group, if so, please speak up. Thanks, Teresa Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Roman To: Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: CSWhy use soap for teeth? Hi, I haven't had time to keep up with the list lately. I searched the list for this topic and was overwhelmed with the number of posts about it. Would anybody be kind enough to briefly explain to me reasons to use soap to brush teeth? What's wrong with using a tooth paste (say, a natural one)? There are plenty of tooth pastes that don't seem to contain any dangerous chemicals. Thank you Roman See latest issue of Acres USA. A chemist says that the glycerine in most toothpastes acts as a bonding agent (glue) that keeps bacteria adhered to teeth. -- The S! ilver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
CS
there is no doubt in my mind that roasted almonds tremendously increases the nutritional value of chocolate. there is a synergy. properly roasted almonds and high quality chocolate is a reasonable -and in some circumstances where lots of energy is needed- a preferable food. On Jul 18, 2004, at 1:30 AM, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote: Hi Wayne, I love chocolate but only if it has almonds in it. Never tried sunflower seeds except some toasted ones once which were rancid and didn't try them again. Peanut butter used to be all I lived on for a couple of years but after seeing first hand how many chemicals they use to produce peanuts and now using hydrogenated oils, it killed my love of peanut butter. I might try your formula to see if I can quit cokes. It bothers me greatly that I have no control over a substance that is so empty of good qualities. Thanks, Jean Baugh It suddenly dawned on me that this must be the answer and the reason I can't quit cokes since I have a lot of determination! I think there is more too it than that. You don't find much information relative to specific nutrients changing the taste buds. At one period in my life, the nutrients I was taking fixed my taste buds where I could not stand the taste of cokes or beer. I had never been a coke-aholic nor a beer-a-holic. Still, suddenly I could not stand the taste of either. I went for many years before I could stand the taste of coke and still have no taste for beer. So, what did this magic to my taste buds? This was so long ago, I honestly don't remember the full program. I know, we should all keep notes in case some far out combination kills us, someone else could benefit. I do remember this much about my program at that time. Dessicated Liver Brewers Yeast Sunflower Seeds. Of course A, B, C, Ca, Mg, and trace minerals were included. If you ever read about the alcoholic rats experiments, this would make my story more understandable and logical. If no one knows about it, or has a copy, I will tell it as I remember it. I can't remember what year I became addicted to sunflower seeds. It was the late 50's or early 60's. Did you see the article recently about taste bud types?I question people I barely know about what foods they like.If they do not like specific foods, they are usually sick. By eating selected combinations of foods, you can alter and change your taste buds. Most of this is my opinion. Bits and pieces of information keep showing up to substantiate some of my ideas. Hopefully your craving for cokes has no relation to the sugar and carbs. Sometimes we have hidden cravings. Often I think I have a craving for peanut butter. Anytime I am hungry or need energy, and cannot think of anything I want to eat, I eat peanut butter. It kills a hunger sensation, provides energy, and suddenly I do not want anything at all to eat. I think it is a wonderful food in the class with sunflower seeds and almonds. Eat enough peanut butter, sunflower seeds and almonds and you will crave nothing but WATER ! I bet it would even help the craving for Coke. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
CSre: mold
yah, mold is developing on foods. leave them long enough and almost all develop visible mold. will soaking in colloidal silver kill the mold? On Jul 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Garnet wrote: And mold starts to grow at 25% moisture, various temps, but one colony can become ten million colonies in 24 hours under the right conditions. I rarely even eat left over foods due to mold contamination. You may not see it but it is there, even after just a few hours, think how much is there in a couple days of sitting in the fridge. Many fruits have mold on them too, especially dried ones. I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CSBaking soda
wayne fugitt must love this story... On Jul 12, 2004, at 10:39 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Reminds me of the time my car got stuck in drive. It would drive in neutral, and in reverse, it would load the engine, but I would go nowhere. I took it to Amco transmission, and they said it would be $300 or so to fix, no matter what the problem was. So I said I would try to fix it first. I drove by Amco at about 30 miles an hour, and pushed up up into reverse, the back wheels squealed for a second, and it killed the engine. When I restarted the engine everything worked fine and it never failed until I traded a few years later. I figured it would cost me no more if it was totally destroyed so I had nothing to lose, and as it turns out, the big jar was all it needed to get unstuck. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHard drive crash and the logic of the times
i have also gotten things to work by unplugging them for a little while. not hard drives, but electronics and computers can sometimes be reset by removing ALL power from their circuit boards. this sometimes entails removing an internal battery. reminds me of a story: i had inventory to do in my basement as i was reorganizing. i had a custom database i had developed on my pretty expensive laptop. i thought, nah, i shouldn't take it into the basement because of evil spirits or something down there. but i did it anyway. as i was moving wood chisels to a new container i thought i should sharpen them. i ground them on a wheel and put them away. my computer was 5 feet away. 10 minutes later it started to act messed up. i called a friend and he said, microscopic metal bits have floated around and been sucked into your computer!. ouch! he fixed it by buying a coupla gallons of denatured alcohol. and soaking the whole thing several times to float out the mettalic bits that were shorting the boards. seems the alcohol didn't damage anything. On Jul 10, 2004, at 10:44 AM, enjaycee wrote: hi Wayne With much frustration that's how I finally fixed my VCR and it has continued to purr for several months now...I immediately thought of going into the business of repairing them... Norm This can be a DROP of 4 to 6 feet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CSColloidal silver generator
the silver puppy also shuts down and is current limited (as the sg6). it has an overide that allows you to make higher ppm directly. personally, i like the idea of running a batch with current limited and than rerunning the same batch 12 hours later which results in 20ppm (i am told). i have thought i have noticed a stronger, more reactive taste with fresh batches. if i rerun an initial batch this taste is restored (even stronger). except for skin conditions, my understanding of the posters on this list is going over 5ppm is not neccesarily an advantage. no one knows, but brooks bradley has stated his investigations show 5ppm to be effective and more ppm not neccesarily more effective. it seems to be all good. fresh, home made stuff, swished in the mouth for ten seconds or more, and swallowed. if you want more just drink more. the homemade stuff works and the silver puppy -or sg6 if one prefers- are worth the investment if you want to experiment with silver. this is the base. from here we go to different versions and purities of distilled water. some like to make their own distilled water. than we go to different methods of silver ingestion: oral, nebulized, and introduction into the naval cavities by different methods. also there is ongoing experimentation with the addition of DMSO or h2o2 after the silver is made. On Jul 6, 2004, at 6:51 PM, Terry wrote: I haven't tried the silver puppy, but I have been extremely pleased with my Silvergen SG6...particularly how it shuts down current flow once the desired concentration is reached...no monitoring necessary. ww.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm
Re: CSColloidal silver generator
my recomendation is always silver puppy for anything other than industrial or resale type production. the silver puppy is small, quiet, intuitive, elegant, and makes strong stuff well and fast. i believe it is 99 bucks. look it up on the web thru google. it comes in a small enough package that shipping should be inexpensive. On Jul 6, 2004, at 9:47 AM, Nathan Filyk wrote: I need to get a colloidal silver generator shipped to Korea. Can anyone recommend a good company? Sincerely, ~Nathan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CSLyme Disease cure?
i still have lyme disease or post lyme syndrome or whatever after three years. i don't have much good to say about lyme. it is similar to HIV in that it is chronic (at this stage) and requires a complete lifestyle to manage. having it has changed my life, in some ways much for the better. it is much easier to live for today and much easier to give up addictions and vices that hinder my spiritual developement. i have more courage to make independant choices and i am constantly aware of my mortality and the importance of my time left. i am more resigned -in a good way. i am resigned to making the most of my life and expressing my love. love continues after we are gone -we don't. On Jun 28, 2004, at 12:07 AM, Acmeair wrote: this url does not work. 18 million peeps - Original Message - From: T J Garland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: CSLyme Disease cure? Note the author says that 18,000,000 Americans may have the disease. Are there any proven cures on this list using CS? TJ http://www.rense.com/general54/whatmakeslyme.htm I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CSCat, Cancer and CS
that! was one of the sweetest stories i have heard in a long time. regardless of the eventual outcome, that is a story of care and success between two creatures. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: old shingles etc
some people have really good constitutions. some people have sh_t constitutions. there are many other factors, but one of them is your constitution. believe it. On Jun 22, 2004, at 7:26 AM, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning John and Stuff, At 11:34 PM 6/21/04, you wrote: Stuff is either healthy and faking his other symptoms, or the exception to prove the rule. :-) I realize I am out classed by both of you, .. but I have ideas, even though I am a youngster. The term healthy is attention getting. Most of my friends who have made the statement, I am healthy turn out to be sick, usually very sick. They have heart attacks, heart disease, bone disease, disappearing disk and steel plates in the spine. I have never made the statement in my lifetime, I am healthy. Words are often misleading and used improperly. Instead of saying, I am healthy, I would say, I am not as sick as most of my friends. I have only one friend that is truly healthy. He is 67.5 years old, about 5 feet, 8 inches and weighs 150 pounds. He has no insurance, never been to a doctor, and never been sick. He backpacks 15 miles per day and can stay in the outback on 1 pound of food per day. He will make 5 to 8 day trips with one gallon of water. If he can't find water, he has to cut the trip short. He drinks water just like he finds it, never uses any chemical agents in the water, and says he has never been sick from drinking the water he finds. After he mentioned this, I thought about the fact that I did that too when I was young. I was a swamp rat, spend days in the swamp, and drank whatever water I found. I keep trying to learn from him, but I never see him eat or drink anything. He makes several canoe trips per year, still works a few days per week, and stays busier than most teen agers. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CS20 ppm CS
well on the small scale, the silver puppy claims 20ppm with two passes separated by 12 hours or so. the silverpuppy uses thermal stirring. gee it works great for me. On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:24 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I have a company that is wanting large quantities of 20 ppm CS. I make 5 ppm normally and have made 10 by making two passes through our machine. But I don't think I can get 20 that way, the particle size simply gets way too large. Anyone have any good methods for making large quantites of 20 ppm CS? I would like to be able to produce at least 3 or 4 gallons an hour. LVDC I believe would be too slow. HVAC gets it too hot unless using multiple passes. Bob, you have played with underwater sputtering I think. How does that work? How does the microwave HVDC work? Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CS20 ppm CS
the silver puppy material states that it makes 10 ppm in it's standard set-up. it shuts off by measuring electrical conductivity. if you make a batch and wait overnite, the electrical conductivity drops (i guess) and re-running the 10 ppm batch results in 20 ppm before the unit shuts down. i tried it once and the silver ion taste was noticeably stronger after second batch. people say trem's sg-7 unit rock for larger batches. the silver puppy rocks for smaller amounts for sure. i used to own an sg-6 and never got down with it. the silver puppy unit resonates with me. in specific, the sg-6 unit was noisy, confused me with it's sequencing of l.e.d.s, rejected lots of distilled water (walgreen's too), and i found i was equivocal about tasting -or not tasting- the telltale mettalic taste of the silver ions. the silver puppy has never confused me and i taste the silver readily. On Jun 14, 2004, at 8:33 PM, Terry wrote: No doubt a stupid question for those in the know, but as one who has been using a Silvergen SG6 for several months to make 5-10ppm EIS, how do you do two passes? Terry -Original Message- From: William Meyer [mailto:calis...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS20 ppm CS well on the small scale, the silver puppy claims 20ppm with two passes separated by 12 hours or so. the silverpuppy uses thermal stirring. gee it works great for me. On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:24 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I have a company that is wanting large quantities of 20 ppm CS. I make 5 ppm normally and have made 10 by making two passes through our machine. But I don't think I can get 20 that way, the particle size simply gets way too large. Anyone have any good methods for making large quantites of 20 ppm CS? I would like to be able to produce at least 3 or 4 gallons an hour. LVDC I believe would be too slow. HVAC gets it too hot unless using multiple passes. Bob, you have played with underwater sputtering I think. How does that work? How does the microwave HVDC work? Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004 I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CSWood Deck and Balcony
pressure treated wood is pressure treated. perhaps eis would work using industrial pressure treating processies to drive it into the heart of the wood. spraying it on the lumber would afford little protection. On Jun 7, 2004, at 10:55 AM, bob smith wrote: The timing of this inquiry couldn't have been better for me. I just bought pressure treated landscape timbers for a retaining wall and to terrace an area for gardening. After hauling part of the order home, I took time to read a brochure on their use. The list of handling and use recommendations have raised serious doubts about using them. 1. You should not burn the scrap. 2. Wear dust mask, goggles, gloves when working with it. 3.After working with it wash exposed area thoroughly. 5. Wash work clothes separately immediately after use. 6. Should not be used where it comes into direct or INDIRECT contact with drinking water. 7. Do not use under circumstances where it may become a compound of food, animal feed, or beehives. What effect would spraying untreated lumber with EIS have on its useful life? This issue coming up is an example of what makes this the best all around list on the internet. Bob Smith - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: CSWood Deck and Balcony Somewhere, sometime, following a link, I seem to remember that if you tread bare wood with silver, you won't need to have it pressure treated. I have a deck that is just yellow pine and is a very nice gray color after about 3 years in the sun. I like the color, but if I use the treatment recommended it turns back to the original gold wood color which I don't like. What method of making silver would be best to use for spraying this decking for preserving it with silver? Any suggestions would be appreciated. I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CSRe[2]: CS
as far as i can tell, the quotes below are laughable if they weren't so wrong. i have not run into any of the information they speak of and ionic silver seems to work extremely well for me. finally, the silver puppy is the way to go for smaller amounts of ionic silver. i haven't made quarts with it yet. it makes pints flawlessly quickly and quietly. you really can't beat this unit for light use. i would never recommend anyone make their own silver unit unless they were avid hobbyists. the silver puppy does it flawlessly. On May 18, 2004, at 11:21 AM, patriot2...@mindspring.com wrote: That is because most products today that claim to be colloidal silver are actually not true colloidal suspensions at all; they are only ionic solutions. That in itself makes them unstable. The silver particles soon settle out. Using a silver product that has settled will be ineffective, and worse than that: dangerous having some particles of humongous size. In contrast, Mild Silver Protein is a true colloidal suspension produced using compounding techniques that result in a stable product. The atoms stay at uniform size and do not come out of suspension. Remember if you are taking a silver product in order to enhance your health you do not want ions of silver. You only want atoms of silver. Only Atoms of silver are non toxic to the CD4 and CD8 components of your immune system, which is so important when you take the Mild Silver Protein in the more effective high 500 p.p.m. range. With any ionic silver in any p.p.m. range- (be it even as low as 3 to 10 p.p.m.), it is toxic to the CD4 and CD8 components of your immune system. Mild Silver Protein was used non-toxically for generations before conventional antibiotics, and now ionic silver preparations are crowding out Mild Silver Protein from the shelves and ruining the reputation of silver and the knowledge of the effective completely non-toxic silver. This data is for COMPOUNDED SILVER FORMULATIONS ONLY and does not refer to unstable electro colloidal making and makers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CSMethod of action of colloidal silver?
i don't know how it works. there are theories and some research in vitro, but we don't know the chemistry in vivo. are there long term negative effects? there is no significant data of deletrious effects. i continue to use it in the very dilute concentrations of the home-made ionic style. it works, but there are certainly questions about how and when to deliver it most effectively. generally, the home-made ionic concentrations can be used for: inhalation with ultrasonic or air brush delivery misting of the eyes, nose, mouth and hands during periods of greater social contact mouthwash and tooth brushing topical application specifically in a ratio of 1-10 dmso to silver topical application is generally advised that it is advantageous to increase the concentration of silver solution if possible to the highest range of ppm available in your home-made system. i make clear cs using my system of home distilled water and silver puppy generator. i make small pint batches so far sometimes when i decant the silver solution to a holding container it turns yellow. this is not a problem for mouthwash or topical use. internally or with the eyes i prefer the clear stuff. don't have any evidence one way or the other on this. if my batch discolors due to minute adulterants in my decanted containers i can restore clarity by just a few drops of food grade h202. On May 17, 2004, at 6:07 PM, James Holmes wrote: I have read elsewhere that Ag affects prokaryotic cells, but does not affect eukaryotic cells. Is there a difference in the basic cell walls between the two? If not, then the effect must be coming from something that happens inside the cell. I believe also that I have read that silver is capable of entering the nuclear membrane of eukaryotic cells and attacking pathogens therein. I don't think anyone knows how it works. JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMethod of action of colloidal silver? From http://health2us.com/colloid.htm?adword=2 : The biological effects of silver are apparently due to reversible bonds with enzymes and other active molecules on the surface of cells. Due to its sulphydryl binding propensity, biologically available silver disrupts membranes, disables proteins and inhibits enzymes. This is an interesting statement but there is not documentation so take it at face value. If it were true that it disabled or inhibited enyzymes it would in fact do so to mammalian systems and cause problems. Since it there is no sign of that happening, I belive this statement to be of limited value in answering this question. More specificity is needed. I emailed them for clarification or documentation. Garnet On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 06:17, theskyk...@aol.com wrote: Hello friends, I am looking for a good resource explaining what colloidal silver does to kill bacteria. Does it inhibit protein formation? Inhibit cell wall formation? What is the method of killing action? Any information or links, please send directly to theskyk...@aol.com Thank you, Bryan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CSWater Temp
it also will go golden just from contaminants. example. i made clear cs at about 12ppm i than poured into a storage container and it went golden over a few days. On May 9, 2004, at 2:17 PM, James Holmes wrote: It will go golden beyond a certain concentration, regardless of whether the electrodes have been contaminated. The contamination increases conductivity and makes a higher yield; that is what causes the color change. JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWater Temp No Wayne I do not take Golden Seal. Initially I was just not as careful of handling the electrodes with my hands or with what was sprayed in the area where it is set up. I know I contaminated one batch by spraying vinegar water when cleaning the counters in that area. Garnet On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 10:42, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Garnet, The only time I get golden is if I have contaminated the electrodes by touching them with my hands. Sounds as if you have done this more than once and confirmed the cause. Have you by chance been taking Golden Seal? I realize we have oils and amino acids on the hands. In the past, people have told me this effects our ability to catch fish, possibly due to the smell of these acids. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CScs and fillings
i would agree with this. except for the staining of the teeth, silver should help encapsulate mercury fillings and be an advantage. i assume if it is coating the filling it is also being picked up by the enamel of the teeth. brushing with h202 afterwords may help with tooth staining but it would also probably remove any mercury on the amalgams. On May 5, 2004, at 11:03 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: From some of the reports I have read here, holding CS in the mouth results in helping put a layer of silver on the fillings and sealing in the mercury. I have never heard any downside. Marshall Marie Hofman wrote: Is it safe to use CS when you have a lot of mercury in your teeth? Marie. Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra JetStream! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour I¹m living proof that your choice of how to respond to a situation constitutes your ultimate power. Each time we squarely face and successfully handle a problem, we become aware of even more options. --- Naomi Judd - HAD Hep. C and no longer has it! ...Like the martial arts practice of Aikido. Rather than oppose your enemy head on; step off center, blend with the attacker's energy, and redirect it in such a way as to do no harm. It is the application of the principal of loving your enemy... --- Jason Eaton, http://www.solari.com/action/solari_intro.htm As you grow older, you'll find the only things you regret are the thing you didn't do. ---Zachary Scott, 1914-1965, Actor
Re: CSallergic to silver?
no but i will say that i can do wheat grass tho i am a celiac. different animal. meaning, maybe this ionic silver will not cause a reaction the same way. On Apr 29, 2004, at 11:35 PM, nancymike wrote: Hello all, Does anyone know what a person who is highly allergic to silver can do to get some CS into his body without terrible reactions? Thanks, Nancy
Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
ah, but how about a predator bacteria or virus? tricky but can work. i would love to find one for the lyme bacteria. On Apr 30, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Garnet wrote: Yes you are exactly correct JBB Penicillin comes from the Penicillium mold and it kills bacteria. As well viruses infect bacteria so these microbes do fight each other. Wonder if any of them do it with Silver? Garnet On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 01:17, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Many germs do fight one another; this is the basis of antibiotics. JBB On Thursday, Apr 29, 2004, at 12:21 Asia/Tokyo, John Rigby wrote: Hi folks, It is extremely hard to put aside on's conditioning. That's why I like to listen to the very young. 9-13 is a magic time, old enough to reason well, old enough to be articulate, too young yet to be blindsided by weight of Authority. Some odd thoughts of the very young: 1. How come all these different germs don't fight each other? 2. Where do the really bad ones come from, like plagues? 3. Why is it always only 30% of the population ever dies from these plagues? 4. Why did Nostradamus' wife and kids die and him not? Answers next time ?. Himagain John Rigby FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com ICQ 3250943 H.O.: Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia. GMT +10 WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/ _ You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS'Good bugs', 'bad bugs'
as i recall candida is the pathogenic yeast colony version of an organism in the gut that is normally present and benign. On Apr 28, 2004, at 9:24 PM, Garnet wrote: On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 10:06, Terry Chamberlin wrote: There are no 'good bugs' and 'bad bugs'. Every organism (indeed, every natural substance) plays a part in Nature. Humans like to call fleas and ticks 'bad' because of the inconvenience of them, but, whenever man successfully kills off most of the 'bad' bugs, or animals, or plants (what we call 'weeds'), disaster usually ensues, as Nature tries to balance out man's meddling. The colloqialism bad bugs refers to the pathogenic microbes that indeed are harmful to man. Candida is a 'good' bug in our colon, but a 'bad' bug in our blood stream. The same with e-Coli. Absolutely incorrect!! Candida is not a good bug in the colon. Where in the world did you ever get this information. It is called a commensal of man, which is a pathogenic organsim that often exists in small numbers which are not enough to be harmful, except when their numbers grow to a significant level. Candida in the gut has no function other than it is there as an opprotunist ready to move in to the gut wall if there is a die off of the beneficial organisms that normally occupy the gut wall. The body doesn't strive to keep out bad bugs, it merely tries to maintain balance. Every one of us has bugs such as the Polio virus in us, yet we don't have Polio. If we could successfully rid our body of all 'bad' bugs, we would die. Again this is absolute hogwash. Where do you come up with these ideas? In thirty years of alt health care and medical research I have never heard anyone but you say this??? Nature is about symbiosis, not antagonism. There are many antagonists in our bodies. Checks and balances Glucagon antagonizes insulin for instance. Without this antago- nistic balance of actions of these two hormones we would die. Harmony, not exclusion. Our bodies are not at war with Nature, valiantly trying to protect against all the hostile forces we are surrounded by (except what man has created). Primitive peoples have for centuries hung up meat to 'cure' (in today's lingo, spoil), which certainly allowed the 'bugs' in the meat to go bonkers. By today's wisdom, those folks should have all died. Not at all. The reason they did not die is that when they slaughtered and dressed the carcass they knew not to contaminate the meat with bacteria from the colon, E. coli. Modern day slaughter methods do not take this kind of care and allow the contents of the colon to get on the meat. Louis Pasteur was wrong. The goal is not to keep 'bad bugs' out, the goal is to be healthy. Dr. Carey Reams once said, If your chemistry was balanced, and your body was healthy, you could live in a village where the people were dropping like flies from the Bubonic Plague, and it wouldn't touch you. Again this is absurd. The Bubonic plague killed a majority of the population of Europe, many healthy well to do people among them. For instance Michele de Nostradame lost his wife and child, who enjoyed a healthy life style thanks to his knowledge of herbs and preventative medicine. It was not enough to save them. It takes very few plague organsims because they are extremely virulent. Achieving and maintaining such a level of health includes more than merely nutrition or good food, it includes harmony with the universe in the areas of spirit and emotions and relationships (hence the value of such things as EFT). Caroline Myss stated that, if we were clear on these levels (spirit, emotions, relationships), we could live on dog food and stay healthy. (Actually, dog food is sometimes healthier than much human food!) Depends on the dog food. Old Roy would likely kill you where a food like Solid Gold might well be better than most commercial food. But the point is that the 'good bug', 'bad bug' conception of nature/health keeps us constantly at war with our surroundings. We live in a polarity universe. Of course there is good and bad, night and day, light and dark. We are not at war with our surroundings we are also polarized beings, it is the progression between the polarities that is repnosible for all movement. Without what you refer to as a war, there would be stasis. I use CS primarily to strengthen and bolster my immune system, not to attack 'bad bugs' that are attacking from all sides (inside and out). When my immune system is at its best, it keeps my body in balance with all other organisms that might grow out of proportion within me. My health rant for the day. Indeed! Garnet __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive:
Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
1. How come all these different germs don't fight each other? a great tho largely unexplored way to deal with germs is to introduce an antagonist germ in the body that is less harmful. 2. Where do the really bad ones come from, like plagues? unfortunately lyme disease -it's virulent modern version- may have come from from lab 257, smack dab off the coast of lyme , ct. sars is quite possibly a genetically reengineered version of a weak virus. our govt. would be able to trace it's spread and gather information for biological defense/warfare. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCalling Oz members
i doubt the people will wake up in time to stop all that's happening now. On Apr 28, 2004, at 11:33 PM, John Rigby wrote: Hi people, Two new worries in the New World (Order) 1. In Oz, Oxygen is now officially a dangerous drug - only a Dr can prescribe it, apparently. So, anyone using Ozone Generators in Oz? Appreciate your experiences and any sources - particularly in Godzone (Queensland) Want to use it with CS. 2. Also 35% H202 has vanished here. I *did* buy it locally a few years ago, but now it isn't even in the Pharma Wholesale lists.. Anyone know a source? OR Should I persist in looking, or can I use other than Food Grade? AND lastly, how long should a Silver source last? Say, 1 oz will make 500 gals, or what? I am using Maple leaf coins and alternating the poles position. Thanks, Himagain John Rigby FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com ICQ 3250943 H.O.: Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia. GMT +10 WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/ _ You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPraise report
i believe the diet is the hippocrates diet. this came from the hippocrates institute in boston originally. now in florida. this diet uses raw foods, fermented foods, and wheatgrass and sprouts. http://www.cancure.org/hippocrates_health_institute.htm On Apr 23, 2004, at 6:58 AM, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote: Hi T.J., What is the Hippocratic die? Never heard of it. My Mother is following the Budwig protocol but her cancer is spread to the bones where the cure rate is a dismal one in 200. I'm trying to locate beets, celeraic root and black radishes so she can try the Breuss vegetable juice diet for 42 days to starve the cancer but not having any luck, not even on the beets. I have a call out to a Thai market this weekend so we might get lucky. Thank you, Jean Baugh From a client with breast cancer. She used the Budwig protocol and the Hippocratic die Hi T.J., it's been a few months since we last talked. I wanted to email you with an update about my breast cancer. I have been carefully monitored since the first of Oct. The activity of my cancer was gone in mid Dec. I've been tested twice since then. Today I was tested again. CANCER FREE!1 I give all the glory to God for my healing. I have been fateful to eatting right and doing as guided. I'm planning to set up an Amas test very soon. I already know what it's going to say, but have to prove it to the medical world. I hope this report finds you well. Thank you for your help and encouragement in the very beginning. Nance Brock Hope you are having a great day. From Frank and Nance
CSRe: goverment and health
let me mention some specifics. i cannot legally home test my saliva here in new york for hormone levels. i tried sending my samples through a third party (a friend), but i am still being locked out currently. this is against my health and freedom. a federal agency recently prohibited one of our beef producers from paying for and testing their own cattle for mad cow disease. they are losing 35 million dollars in japanese sales because of this. think about that. one lady is investigating a cluster of mad-cow like deaths traced to a new jersey racetrack commisary. on her own. i know from getting lyme that the goverment and med establishment and insurance companies are suppressing lyme recognition. here in ny the ama prosecutes doctors who treat lyme with long term antibiotics. on my lyme lists we have to refer to the few doctors who have survived by the first initial of their last names. DR. B. for instance. older americans don't know how bad this has all gotten. they don't believe it. younger americans are clueless. those who have access and inclination to spend time on the net apparently spend all their time on video games. video games will be the next carrier of youth culture. just as rock music was in my generation -the 60's. it just hasn't gotten very socially and politically aware yet. On Apr 19, 2004, at 5:56 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: That is great if you can do it. But what if you need an herb that has proven useful to you that can only be grown in the tropics? Will you move to the tropics and grow it? And do you think that anyone will be allowed to make their own if they are in prison for making or using illegal drugs? I agree do what you want, but at times it becomes too difficult to do so from outside the system. A letter to a congressman is not much of an expense to bear. Marshall Stuff wrote: At 10:43 AM 4/19/2004 -0400, Marshall wrote: Although this is political, it is extremely important for those who want to continue to use CS and other supplements. I'll continue to treat myself in ways I see fit, with or without *anyone's* approval. I make my own CS and if someone doesn't want me to use it they'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands. If certain products are removed from the market by people who *think* they know what's best for me, I will find another way. Fighting an 800 lb. gorilla just makes no sense when I'm free to do all these things and I'll not throw money at any group who wants to do it. And fighting this gorilla will just make it stronger. Been there, done that. Waste of time and energy. Just do whatever it is you think best, tho. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
i understand your reluctance. i am not allowed to say anything political here. jesus had to talk in parables because of the threat of death for any who did not support the roman or pharisee line when he lived. i don't know if i have this energy anymore. On Apr 19, 2004, at 5:22 PM, Stuff wrote: At 10:43 AM 4/19/2004 -0400, Marshall wrote: Although this is political, it is extremely important for those who want to continue to use CS and other supplements. I'll continue to treat myself in ways I see fit, with or without *anyone's* approval. I make my own CS and if someone doesn't want me to use it they'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands. If certain products are removed from the market by people who *think* they know what's best for me, I will find another way. Fighting an 800 lb. gorilla just makes no sense when I'm free to do all these things and I'll not throw money at any group who wants to do it. And fighting this gorilla will just make it stronger. Been there, done that. Waste of time and energy. Just do whatever it is you think best, tho. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDengue Fever
lyme and dengue are different. you can have them both. i had a friend who worked in the amazon for a spell, returned, and got sick almost immediately on his return to the states. upon learning he was in the amazon the docs put him in a special room for possible deadly contagion of stuff like ebola, etc.. during the course of examination they found a tick bite. turned out he had been bitten immediately upon his return to the states and had lyme disease. On Apr 18, 2004, at 3:56 AM, Marie Hofman wrote: I wish to post this to the silver list, this is my first post, I hope I do it right! My husband was diagnosed with MS 9 years ago, he was once an avid sportsperson and travelled the world thirteen times. He is now diminished to a bedridden person who gets hoisted from and to a bed and bathroom chair. He is 48. He cannot move, is chronically cognitively damaged and is totally incontinent. He contracted Dengue Fever while in Thailand a few years before symptons began. He didn't choose to have a blood transfusion there, but chose whatever drugs they gave him at the time and recovered. I think the Dengue Fever has caused the MS, even more, I am wondering whether he has Lyme. Does anybody out there know whether the Mosquito that causes Dengue Fever and the Tick that causes Lyme could have the same bacteria? or even whether it was possible to mistake the mosquito bite for a tick bite? I have him on a diet by Gerald Green a UK Herbalist, anti-candida and anti-gluten, al! so since finding out about CS have started administering 20ml 3 times a day (over a week) and am going to slow that down each week. Thankx. Marie. There’s never been a better time to get Xtra JetStream! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDengue Fever
i have no doubt that lyme is the cause of some MS syndromes. how would you know? treat the patient as if they had lyme. colloidal silver absolutely, dr zhang's garlic capsules. possibly hyperbaric. definitely a good rife machine. lyme loves carbohydrates -especially the simpler ones. reduce and eliminate sugar and sweeteners. most of these protocols will help even other conditions and will not hurt the body. what have you to lose? bee sting therapy has brought relief to quite a few MS patients. it just so happens that bee venom has been found to strongly inhibit the lyme bacteria. coincidence? once you forget the b_s medical doctors you have a chance. don't expect a majik bullet. expect constant, long term treatment. expect improvement. there is every chance you will get it and quite a chance you will succeed in one of your treatments. On Apr 18, 2004, at 9:48 AM, Marie Hofman wrote: Lyme and Dengue may be different, but are Lyme and MS different? That is the big question, and is CS a major help here? Many thanks for your comments Marie. From: William Meyer calis...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDengue Fever Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:42:55 -0400 lyme and dengue are different. you can have them both. i had a friend who worked in the amazon for a spell, returned, and got sick almost immediately on his return to the states. upon learning he was in the amazon the docs put him in a special room for possible deadly contagion of stuff like ebola, etc.. during the course of examination they found a tick bite. turned out he had been bitten immediately upon his return to the states and had lyme disease. On Apr 18, 2004, at 3:56 AM, Marie Hofman wrote: I wish to post this to the silver list, this is my first post, I hope I do it right! My husband was diagnosed with MS 9 years ago, he was once an avid sportsperson and travelled the world thirteen times. He is now diminished to a bedridden person who gets hoisted from and to a bed and bathroom chair. He is 48. He cannot move, is chronically cognitively damaged and is totally incontinent. He contracted Dengue Fever while in Thailand a few years before symptons began. He didn't choose to have a blood transfusion there, but chose whatever drugs they gave him at the time and recovered. I think the Dengue Fever has caused the MS, even more, I am wondering whether he has Lyme. Does anybody out there know whether the Mosquito that causes Dengue Fever and the Tick that causes Lyme could have the same bacteria? or even whether it was possible to mistake the mosquito bite for a tick bite? I have him on a diet by Gerald Green a UK Herbalist, anti-candida and anti-gluten, al! so since finding out about CS have started administering 20ml 3 times a day (over a week) and am going to slow that down each week. Thankx. Marie. There’s never been a better time to get Xtra JetStream! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Watch movie trailers and listen to music online with the Xtra Broadband Channel !
Re: CSMarshalee's Arthritis
if you are a celiac like me, you must avoid all wheat rye oats barley. wheat is added to everything. soy sauce, fake crab meat, canned soups, some tortilla chips etc etc etc add to that cross-contamination by cutting boards and grain mills etc if one is a celiac one should avoid eating out. have to make your own food. On Apr 18, 2004, at 10:40 AM, Christine Carleton wrote: Marshalee I also know folks who loose the stiffness and pain when they cut dairy and wheat from their diet and be aware of GM foods. No microwaved food. And that is wheat in everything - this is a big one - because over 20% of our food is not labelled with wheat in it - see www.mercola.com and search about wheat for more info. Also http://www.seedsofdeception.com/Genetically-Modified-Foods-at-a- Glance.php Currently Commercialized GM Crops in the U.S. Soy (80%), cotton (70%), canola (60%), corn (38%), Hawaiian papaya (more than 50%), zucchini and yellow squash (small amount), and tobacco (Quest® brand). Other Sources of GMOs -- Dairy products from cows injected with rbGH. Food additives, enzymes, flavorings, and processing agents, including the sweetener aspartame (NutraSweet®) and rennet used to make hard cheeses. The good news is they can use dairy occasionally - like once a week as a condiment - e.g. cream in coffee. Christine From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:06:46 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMarshalee's Arthritis Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:11:46 -0700 I know of several who can not eat cheese inparticular and dairy in general with their arthritis flaring. No dairy = no arthritis for them. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGood and bad bugs
i would be suprised if good bugs were immune to CS. no, as far as i am aware, CS is a wonderful, effective, cheap, antibiotic. generally, it seems to be the case that -except fro the intestinal track- we can live without a lot of free swimming bacteria and viruses in our blood. CS done properly should not disturb your intestinal flora. On Apr 17, 2004, at 7:55 PM, Pavel Hochmut wrote: Sorry, But I didn´t want to talk about goog or bad bugs, or where they are placed. Bloodsteam or any intestine or other tissue, the bugs are everywhere BUT so the CS (if applied) also does. My interest is to find an answer (very simplified) to: Why some of bugs are immune to the CS and some of them are NOT.. Forget good and the bad ones. So only we call them. But I find very suspicious, that these that we call good ones are by the merest chance immune to the CS. That´s really upsetting and it sounds to me like brujería i.e. some kind of witchcraft in Spanish language. Pavel H. On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 21:22, Terry Chamberlin wrote: Of course, the good bugs reside mostly in the small intestine I believe this is incorrect. You may want to review your sources, but if memory serves the beneficial bacteria are in the large intestines mostly and if they are in the small intestines it is not the prevalent location. Different species live in different areas. Also where Candida overgrows is where the beneficial organsims are suppose to be. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver is reactive metal x good and the bad bugs
ionic silver in home-made concentrations is extremely dilute. previous posts have indicated it's excretion is almost entirely in the urine. swishing it in the mouth and doing it on an empty stomach in typical quantities -2 ounces or so- just does not seem to effect the intestinal flora badly in my case. i have never noticed the slightest detrimental effect on my lower gut functioning. but it does help my post-lyme symptoms. noticeably. that having been said: i believe that some gut supplementation with homeostatic soil organisms and other good probiotic supplements is often helpful for anyone who is eating anything like a typical american diet. gut health is very very important in our health and our immune system. On Apr 16, 2004, at 1:06 PM, Pavel Hochmut wrote: O.K., But then, if we accept that CS partially passes through the alimentary tract unchanged and partially is absorbed into the bloodstream etc., the only thing that interests me now is, why it is said, that CS killes within few minutes all the unicellar organisms, BUT these profitable to the human leaves alive. That is to say, that I have found information that it is not necessary to take care about intestinal microbial flora to be restored when enjoying the CS. That beats me, how the CS distinguishes the useful and unuseful bugs or vice-versa: how the good bugs get their resistivity to the CS and the bad bugs do not ? Where is the snag ? MORE: after all I read here down (deleted) I assume that the CS MUST have another chemical features than metallic silver, otherwise should react in the blood and cells instantly (e.g. see the sulphur compounds). To my fingerprints: eggs, no I do not eat so much eggs but I use garlic almost daily. Maybe the sulphur comes from it into my sweat. (it is the hydrochloric acid in the stomach content, I apologize for my former mystification). Pavel H. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAllergies
the pulse test was used by j r rodale and written about in the 50's or 60's. he mentioned that when he ate a meal and took a vitamin supplement with the meal his pulse did not rise as much. my experience is that certain food allergies will pre-load your immune system and intensify your bodies ill effects to air borne allergies. before i found i was a celiac, i had asthma. after avoiding wheat entirely my asthma went away. On Apr 16, 2004, at 11:01 PM, Terry Chamberlin wrote: I was born with severe allergies. Scratch and sniff tests showed me to be reactant to 75% of dusts and pollens. I discovered a way to self-test for food allergies, and when I omitted the offending foods from my diet, my allergic reactions and sensitivity dropped by 80%. To self test, here is how I do it (taken from my article, Nutritional Insights.) FOOD SENSITIVITIES: Probably more than half the people in this country experience food allergies/sensitivities to one degree or another. Actually, the term, food allergies is a misnomer, because the body reacts to various food substances for more reasons than allergic reactions (hence the word, sensitivities). When you think of allergies, you generally think of sneezing, runny nose, watery eyes, etc. But allergies mimic every known disease. The late Dr. Arthur Coca discovered that when people ate foods to which they were sensitive/allergic, their pulse increased. So he began testing people by having them monitor their pulse when they ate certain foods. One woman who came to him because of her hay fever symptoms weighed 300 pounds. When she stopped eating the foods the pulse testing had indicated she was sensitive to, she began losing weight at an amazing, even alarming, rate. She hurried back to Dr. Coca and he told her to wait and see what would happen. When her body reached a healthy weight level, she stopped losing weight. Dr. Coca concluded that her body's reaction when she ate foods to which she was sensitive was to accumulate and retain them in the form of fat. Another of Dr. Coca's patients found that their diabetes symptoms disappeared and they were able to discontinue taking insulin, and still another patient found they no longer exhibited symptoms of epilepsy nor needed any longer to take epilepsy medication. Obviously, these examples are abnormal; food sensitivities cannot be held responsible for more than a small percentage of diabetic or epileptic conditions, but there are other symptoms associated with food allergies, such as low energy, which are more common than normally thought. In his book, The Pulse Test, Dr. Coca explained that, when you eat something to which you are allergic, or even something which your body is sensitive to and has trouble metabolizing, it will begin to struggle with that food or substance, and your pulse will increase. To use the pulse test to determine which foods you should avoid, the test should be conducted first thing in the morning, when you have first arisen, before eating or drinking anything. The reason for this is because your body will have had the night to clear itself out of the last food you ate. You should be fully awake. First, sit down for a couple minutes, so that your pulse is a sitting pulse. Then, take your pulse for a whole minute (rather than 15 seconds and multiplying by four). Then, eat one food which you are suspicious of being an allergen. That's one food, such as a hard-boiled egg, or a glass of milk, or an orange, etc. Bread is not one food, it contains wheat, eggs, milk, yeast, etc., so you could not accurately determine which item you were reacting to. After eating the one food, take your pulse every 15 minutes three times (say you eat the food at 7:00 A.M. You would take your pulse at 7:15, 7:30 and 7:45), always sitting for a minute first so you are always taking a sitting pulse, and always for a whole minute for best accuracy (if you are testing a child who will not hold still long enough, use the 15 seconds method). Eat nothing during that hour, and if your pulse quickens to more than 90 beats per minute, your body is reacting to that food, and you should consider omitting it from your diet. You should test only one food each morning for the testing to be the most accurate, although, if the first food you test has no effect on your pulse, you might test one more food that same morning. The reason to be cautious here is because of allergies/sensitivities that occur when combining certain foods. The most common food allergens to consider testing are chocolate (number one food allergen), peanuts, milk (test whole milk, 1% or 2% milk and non-fat milk separately), wheat (test wheat germ or cooked whole-wheat berries, not wheat bread), citrus fruits, strawberries, etc. Also, make sure to test the foods you eat the most frequently and the ones you have strong or frequent cravings for. Addictive allergies are very common (having an addiction to the foods you are the most allergic to). If you discover
Re: CSMultiple uses for CS - per Terry Chamberlain
hi terry i am sticking to the core protocol: if the water becomes cloudy, than the ionic silver has combined with something in the water and there are unknown chemical reactions. in your case, you are creating all kinds of silver compounds by mixing the ionic silver with other substances. you seem to be fine with this. i also do it on an empty stomach and swish it around in my mouth for a while before ingesting. i drank it once too soon after eating and my stomach objected. On Apr 10, 2004, at 2:04 AM, Terry wrote: How can you tell when a CS batch has gone bad? -Original Message- From: William Meyer [mailto:calis...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMultiple uses for CS - per Terry Chamberlain for myself, i have had good effects on lyme disease drinking only a few ounces a day of 12 ppm CS. spraying solution on hands, eyes, and nose and mouth is nice when you are meeting a lot of people and do not want a cold. CS batches that go bad are good to use as mouthwash. terry c's use is very unusual and extraordinary. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.614 / Virus Database: 393 - Release Date: 3/5/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArgyria riskTell us what happened.
and than, of course, adding a little h2o2 will often restore clarity... On Apr 10, 2004, at 7:33 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: Not long ago, I decanted one batch of colorless CS into a bottle and it turned purple in a few hours while the original CS still in the original container didn't. I did the same in another bottle and the CS instantly turned murky brown. There was some sort of residue in both bottles. Ode At 02:07 AM 4/10/2004 -0600, you wrote: This is interesting: I know from personal experience how easy it is to contaminate a batch. Please share your experience with us. JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSArgyria risk I was not speaking of the incidence of Argyria, but rather the chance that one can produce Silver Salts. I know from personal experience how easy it is to contaminate a batch. From that perspective I know the risks to be significant by my own mistakes. Garnet On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 12:22, Terry Chamberlin wrote: Garnet said: Argyria is real and it is a real risk to those making their own CS. It is not that hard to produce a Silver Chloride or Nitrate. Look at the Senator from Montana, he did it in a matter of years, by not being smart about what he was doing. I have to emphatically disagree. I would not call one case of argyria in the last 100 years a real risk. Stan Jones used tap water (most likely polluted city water), brewed his batches for one hour until they looked like coffee, and drank 8 ounces per day for two years. I am not saying there has only been one case of argyria in the last 100 years, I am saying there has been only one case of argyria from CS *made with silver and distilled water.* Every other case of argyria (of which there have not been many) in the last century have been the result of large doses of silver compounds, or even silver dust (such as a silver-smith might be in frequent and regular contact with). Using distilled or deionised water and pure silver and electricity of any voltage less than 120 volts will not 'accidently' make CS that is dangerous. If you cook it to a coffee-color, maybe there is a concern. Anyone on this list drinking coffee-colored CS? I didn't think so. I drink 16-24 oz/day of crystal-clear CS, have done so for over four years. I put CS in everything in our diet I can put it in. Pancake batter in my house is 2 cups of CS with the dry ingredients. Soup is 1 or 2 quarts of CS to cook the vegetables in. Fruit juice (the frozen kind) is made only with CS. Our drinking water (distilled water) is 30% CS. Anytime a liquid is needed in our diet, for drinking or cooking, it's CS. My children are being raised on CS. CS goes in eyes, ears, noses, throats and on anything on the outside of the body it can go on. It treats burns, rashes, stings, cuts and scrapes. It is one of the first things we turn to for health or medical issues. My children are pink and flesh-colored (except where they are tanned). I have no blue gills (or fingernails). My oldest daughter drinks copious amounts of CS (has for the last 4+ years). Her 6-month old son gets CS each day, as well as what he got within his mom. He is pink and healthy and energetic. But no one in my family gets sick. Never. Zip. My kids friends all share their dieases with each other, passing around whatever they have. Haven't you heard? There's a bug going around, does not apply to my family. What did Stan Jones do to get blue? He drank CS-coffee. OK, don't brew CS-coffee (actually, I make my coffee each morning with CS only - I'm talking about coffee-colored CS). I not only don't need to be careful to avoid what Stan Jones did, I would have to try to accomplish it. Colloidal Silver is not something you need to fear, or even be careful about. Think about it: Apart from Stan Jones (who obviously didn't have a clue what he was doing), THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE CASE OF ARGYRIA FROM COLLOIDAL SILVER IN THE LAST CENTURY that was made as we are making it. There have been more reports of overdoses and toxic reactions to virtually every other nutrient our bodies need than to CS. When I was a kid, my friends and I used to deliberately hyperventilate and then hold our breaths in order to make ourselves faint. Then I saw one of my friends go into some kind of seizure doing that, and I stopped. So it's possible to hurt myself with wierd breathing, but I am not careful about breathing, I just do it. So also I use pure silver and pure water and I brew it a bit and I drink it without restraint. Nothing too careful about that. I don't know of a single other nutrient that is safer than CS. My rambling two cents. Terry Chamberlin _ _ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing
Re: CSMultiple uses for CS - per Terry Chamberlain
for myself, i have had good effects on lyme disease drinking only a few ounces a day of 12 ppm CS. spraying solution on hands, eyes, and nose and mouth is nice when you are meeting a lot of people and do not want a cold. CS batches that go bad are good to use as mouthwash. terry c's use is very unusual and extraordinary. On Apr 10, 2004, at 1:38 AM, Terry wrote: Terry C., per your post: I drink 16-24 oz/day of crystal-clear CS, have done so for over four years. I put CS in everything in our diet I can put it in. Pancake batter in my house is 2 cups of CS with the dry ingredients. Soup is 1 or 2 quarts of CS to cook the vegetables in. Fruit juice (the frozen kind) is made only with CS. Our drinking water (distilled water) is 30% CS. Anytime a liquid is needed in our diet, for drinking or cooking, it's CS. Thank you for the suggestions for a variety of ways to incorporate CS in the daily diet. However, I have read that CS should be taken on an empty stomach for it to be effective. Obviously you feel there is also value in taking CS even if combined with various foods...could you elaborate? Thanks, Terry Ward --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.614 / Virus Database: 393 - Release Date: 3/5/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNegative disturbing report on CS
i found nothing on this page to warrant your characterization. my use of colloidal silver -in my case about two ounces a day of home made 14ppm- has helped my lyme symptoms. small doses such as i use orally and using this dilute substance as an eye and nose wash for cold prevention (especially when meeting a lot of people and having closer contact) i do not see as a problem. it's great stuff and inexpensive. don't need a prescription. it has helped me with oral hygiene too, even nipping a tooth infection in the bud. On Mar 31, 2004, at 4:52 AM, john rigby wrote: Hi folks, There is a quite severe critique and warning against CS on this Site, details of which were sent to me by a relative doing a Search after my talking very positively about CS and Dr Jon http://chetday.com/colloidalsilvergenerator.htm QUOTE By mailto:philip.bre...@sci.monash.edu.auPhil Brewer I read with interest the letter COLLOIDAL SILVER WORKING ON PSORIASIS in http://chetday.com/tip.htmlHealth Beyond Weekly No. 123, written by Greg and decided to briefly present to you my reading on the matter. END QUOTE Having been personally severely damaged on more than one occasion by the Medical Industry, I do take anything published with a grain of salt, but would appreciate any commentary pointers about these matters - particularly the references to argyra. ( I am trying to build a Dr Jon type generator and have only been awaiting finding a source of Canadian Maple Leaf Silver Dollars at an affordable price . [ Buying them from Canadian/US Dealer Sources is really financially insane from Oz and I'm hoping to find someone who will help me out on a private level who has a simple Paypal or CC account for me to pay them - with a reasonable margin for their effort.] Cheers, John -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSzapper(lyme)
i don't believe lyme has to be killed in the cyst form if you keep up a treatment that is working on the active form. lyme in the cyst form should not cause your body any problems. when the lyme emerges from the cyst and becomes active, an ongoing treatment will kill these active forms. it is certainly possible that zapping may force lyme deeper in tissues. the question is: what does the lyme do in these deeper tissues? the consensus seems to be that the lyme in the deeper tissues is active and causing lots of problems with glands, the brain, etc.! more than a few chronic cases have had success thru boosting the immune system. ryfe therapy has received lots of testimonials on it's effectiveness against lyme even in deep tissue. i haven't heard a lot of positive testimony regarding zappers and lyme. On Mar 30, 2004, at 7:37 AM, Linda Jones wrote: Is it possible that your friend has Lyme? Zappers are ineffective with Lyme because the spirochetes have the ability to move away from areas that are penetrated by the zapper. I have Lyme, and used a zapper for about a year and a half, and ended up crashing so badly that I've never been able to return to my former levels of health. My understanding is that the zapper may force Lyme spirochetes to regress into areas that the zapper can't reach, such as the brain and spinal cord, and hollow organs, creating increased neurological symptoms and other symptoms. The zapper isn't powerful enough to kill off Lyme. That sounds like a possibility of what might have happened to your friend. More powerful devices to kill Lyme seem to be Rife and possibly the Mag pulser. But even they have difficulties killing Lyme in all it's forms. (Supposedly they don't kill it in it's cyst form) On the issue of electrical devices causing harm, because the zapper runs on direct current, it doesn't fall into the same category as hair dryers and high powered power lines. At least all the zappers that I've ever used were battery powered. Linda Jones lin...@hamilton.net - Original Message - From: Nancy DeLise To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:59 PM Subject: CSzapper I have a friend who tried the zapper quite awhile ago. She ended up in a wheel chair and she cannot use either of her hands. The hands tremors, and she cannot hold a pencil to even write. Does anyone have any idea what happened? Is there anything she can do to reverse these tremors? Nancy
Re: CSA Question....OT answer to a reply. Sorry Mike
no paranoid delusion there. there are a number of theories on why our current president invaded iraq. none of them have anything to do with fighting terrorism. as far as WMD's, i suggest you look up Scott Ritter. he was a US marine and UNSCOM weapons inspector who resigned in 1998, saying the inspection process was being misused to check on Saddam's defences and that Iraq's WMD's were almost completely destroyed. if you attack a country based on wilful disinformation and lies, killing an estimated 10,000 civilians, that makes you a criminal. each act of agression and violence that individuals or countries get away with in the public sphere opens the doorway to further agression and violence by opportunists in the public stage. On Mar 29, 2004, at 12:07 AM, Hank wrote: Not a damn thing if you are dead. If you are alive and can think then it has a lot to do with CS. It can save us lucky enough to not be in the shrubs war. Maybe you could help stop the war for oil. If not then CS won't help you and you will die, See you in the camp. Yours Hank - Original Message - From: David Bearrow To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:40 PM Subject: Re: CSA Question What does this paranoid delusion have to do with silver? At 08:53 PM 3/28/04, you wrote: Stop reading for a minute. Take your hands away from your mouse and keyboard, and think. Remember. See if you can answer yes to this question: Have you seen a single flag draped coffin in the mainstream media in this entire war? I didn't think so. This proves the media is in collusion with this administration in the whitewashing of the horror of what they have done, and are still doing. The dead and wounded are being completely hidden from us so that there is no public outcry for it to end. The profit taking isn't near over.
Re: CSSilver For Infected Tooth
i have had success with colloidal silver on beginning infection of gum and bone below a bridge. i use colloidal silver and a little DMSO as a mouthwash when i am brushing. i don't use toothpaste. for infections, it definitely helps to keep some cotton with this mixture next to the tooth whenever convenient. great stuff. as far as the DMSO, use as much as you can stand in the CS mix without disgusting yourself. that's not a lot! On Mar 26, 2004, at 3:12 PM, sandee George wrote: Try colloidal Silver - take a mouth full and hold it in your mouth for at least two minutes so that the liquid can penetrate the gums and then swallow the liquid - this worked for me saved one of my teeth which had become loose from infection in the jaw bone which had started to undermine the tooth from regeneration of the bone - took six months with the C.S. to become totally workable again - even to chewing nuts on that side of my mouth so give it a shot !!! Regards Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSanimal vs human testing
well marshall if you are testing something on an animal for it's own good, that is different than giving animals cancer because you want to work on cancer in humans. the increase in our human cancer is mainly do to our present life-style. i have nothing specific here to reference to back this up. i believe this based on my past readings and body intuition. don't do to another what yu would not want done to you. that is a rule of thumb. most animal testing does not meet that criteria. i eat meat. i have been a vegan and other things and it did not work. i am still working on this part of my diet. tonight i went to an anti-war performance here in ithaca, ny. ithaca was labelled by a conservative web site as part of the axis of evil here in amerika. the jist of the performance was that we first label others as not like us in order to discriminate against and justify abuse and killing. most individuals would not subject animals to many of the experiments they now endure, or shoot, napalm, etc. other human beings if they weren't somehow asleep. saying this -having to argue it- seems stupid to me. mebbe i have to go back to work on my diet... On Mar 19, 2004, at 9:29 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I disagree. For instance, how would one test heart worm medicine or distemper shots for dogs, humans do not get these ailments according to the experts. If they did not test them on dogs, many more would die and be harmed from the ailments then those that were used by testing. Marshall William Meyer wrote: there is no need to subject animals to things that humans would not want. period. On Mar 18, 2004, at 6:47 PM, DByron wrote: I strongly disagree. Human beings create the need for testing--let all medical/drug testing be done on willing human subjects and stop the rampant abuse of lab animals. The results obtained will have greater correspondance to reality. Deborah Matthew McCann PE wrote: Hi, Paula, Your experience with CS/EIS goes to show that the hypothetical in-vivo experiment should, for reasons of bio-ethics, be done only on lab animals. An initial infection would have to be induced if none already existed. Best regards, Matthew -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBREAKING NEWS: UPDATE ON FDA AND CS GETTING OUT OF THE BOX?
the fda and the goverment outlaw stuff. marijuana for instance and tryptophan. ephedra. i don't smoke marijuana. i do smoke cigarettes which are totally deadly. and legal. or: androstenedione, a steroid precursor commonly known as andro. The sales ban will take effect on April 12, 2004, unless pharmaceutical companies and manufacturers can prove that it is not a danger to consumers. On Mar 19, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Stuff wrote: At 08:25 PM 3/18/2004 -0500, you wrote: love you tj. it's true that me not having insurance has helped me find a lot of better alternatives. the problem is the pharma's and their proxies trying to stop us from using other substances. Without the FDA, how would the pharmacies stop you? Even with the FDA, what's to stop you from using an illegal and unapproved substance? stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSanimal vs human testing
there is no need to subject animals to things that humans would not want. period. On Mar 18, 2004, at 6:47 PM, DByron wrote: I strongly disagree. Human beings create the need for testing--let all medical/drug testing be done on willing human subjects and stop the rampant abuse of lab animals. The results obtained will have greater correspondance to reality. Deborah Matthew McCann PE wrote: Hi, Paula, Your experience with CS/EIS goes to show that the hypothetical in-vivo experiment should, for reasons of bio-ethics, be done only on lab animals. An initial infection would have to be induced if none already existed. Best regards, Matthew -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBREAKING NEWS: UPDATE ON FDA AND CS GETTING OUT OF THE BOX?
love you tj. it's true that me not having insurance has helped me find a lot of better alternatives. the problem is the pharma's and their proxies trying to stop us from using other substances. all natural derivatives and their synthetic counterparts -vitamins, hormones, etc.. could be marketed by the pharma's if they took the high road. testing and quality and research. apple computer embraced digital music and they are leading the way towards the new mode. on my apple ibook with itunes i can download from their store the songs i want and arrange them as i want and burn them to a cd seemlessly with no hassle. is it worth the price? for those who can afford it yes. point is apple is providing a modern, improved media where they are making it convenient to access the new media's benefits for access to music. don't fite progress when it makes sense. On Mar 18, 2004, at 7:54 PM, TJ Garland wrote: Let me solve the problem forever- DON'T TAKE ANY DRUGS AT ALL!!! NONE-ZERO- ZIP I once sat down and wasted an hour trying to find a drug in the PDA that humans HAD TO HAVE to live. One that didn't have a natural counterpart- that worked better and had no side effects. I could not find one. I really hope that the Pharma- Nazis(literally) raise their prices 200%. Darwinism will rule the day. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Jim kf4...@charter.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBREAKING NEWS:UPDATE ON FDA AND CS GETTING OUT OF THE BOX? Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:30:45 -0600 I'm not sure about this but there was something going around a few weeks ago about Canada getting drugs from Africa and labeling them so as to look like the American made product, a generic equivalent. Could Mexico be doing the same thing? According to American drug manufacturers they aren't the same quality. Jim missett wrote: My son is an asthmatic who was consuming a $35 inhaler every 6 weeks or so. That's the U.S price, from his local friendly pharmacy. The exact same inhaler sold in Tijuana for $4.35 each. Explain that. (These prices are about 12 years old, but they illustrate the point.) - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:52 AM Subject: Re: CSBREAKING NEWS: UPDATE ON FDA AND CS GETTING OUT OF THE BOX? What I don't understand is how the same drugs can be bought for a lot less from Canada..then instead of just doing that, the gov't decides to subsidize the local product..that's probably made at the same factory. Like, if we can sell it to Canada and buy it back cheaper than we can sell it to ourselves...something's amiss. When does adding 16 middlemen reduce the price? ..and the Gov't comes up with NAFTA so we can have, uhmm free trade, but doesn't take advantage of it's own setup and gets all whiney when others do. Why does highly processed white bread cost less than unprocessed whole wheat bread? Stuff just don't add up sometimes. Ode Warning: These sleep aid pills may cause drowsiness At 09:21 PM 3/17/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hear Ye CS'ers It'll make you ill, but there's a pretty good summary of the FDA antics, the drug co's, the lobbyists and congress hearings etc etc; in the current issue of the Life Extension Magazine. Immagine there's a bunch on their web-site too. Anybody see some of the crap presented in the senate hearings and there was a forum/panel presented on C-span this past week, about the fear campaign's being waged ref drug imports... just all sickening. Some good news ref CS.Don't know if it's available on line, but try to get hold of a copy of Popular Mechanics, April 04, page 78, titled Smart Threads. Don't want to tantalize those who cant get hold of the mag. There were two web addresses given:www.marmot.comand www.hotchillys.com I havn't looked at either. the genie out of the bottle???gosh, I hope so!!! davido -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive:
Re: CSMaking CG repy from Author
On Mar 17, 2004, at 6:36 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: From what I've gathered on the subject from various searches: Silver will cross the blood brain barrier. [ Has been found in the brains of autopsied cadavers but not mentioned as a 'cause' of anything] Silver has an affinity for damaged brain and nerve cells [is used in a staining process to highlight damaged areas] ..which doesn't mean that the silver 'caused' the damage. It may have, in fact, repaired or neutralized the damaged areas and any loss of function, a matter of some other cause 'highlighted' by a silver deposit. It's a phenomenon that could easily be misinterpreted. The plaques of Alzheimer's disease are seen here with a silver stain. Such plaques are most numerous in the cerebral cortex and hippocampus. This dementia is marked mainly by progressive memory loss. http://medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/CNSHTML/CNS091.html # Cerebrum, Alzheimer's disease, plaque, microscopic, Bielschowsky silver stain # Cerebrum, Alzheimer's disease, tangle, microscopic, HE stain # Cerebrum, Alzheimer's disease, tangle, microscopic, Bielschowsky silver stain This study combined a 3-dimensional imaging program with a cupric silver stain for neuronal degeneration in order to determine the location and extent of a focal lesion produced by MK-801 (dizocilpine maleate) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_ui ds=10668993dopt=Abstract Ode At 10:35 AM 3/16/2004 -0500, you wrote: My experiments indicate that a gold silver alloy will form a colloid. I had some special wire made up to be 50% gold and 50% silver on an atom count. It made colloidal gols/silver quite easily. However I never used it because I became concerned with what the effect may be on the brain. It appears that gold crosses the blood brain barrier but silver does not. There are reports that silver is toxic to neurons, although some on this group do not agree. Anyway, I became concerned that the silver/gold particles may be able to cross the blood brain barrier, and then cause neurological damage to the brain. On the other hand since CG is usually used for mental reasons, crossing the barrier is essential for this I believe. Thus if the alloy does not cross the barrier, then the usefulness of CG would be questionable. It is for these reasons that although I find that making a CS/CG colloid easy from an alloy, I hesitate to test it on myself. Marshall Charlie Smith (Volt) wrote: Hi all, I've been lurking a while. This is my first attempt at a post, so please bear with me if I manage to screw something up. I promise to get it right sooner or later. Having said that, I've been following the thread on Colloidal Gold with interest. At first glance, it seems unlikely that Sam has produced a true colloid, If he has, it is not pure. Some percentage of it is silver. (Sam, I apologize if this sounds like a criticism. It is not. Please keep reading). However, let me propose a mechanism by which it might be working. I will not be able to test this until I can get some gold wire (however, I have some 4 9's gold coins which I might attempt to use). The process in question starts with ionic silver as a catalyst. The polarity of the DC is reversed 4 times over the course of 2 hours (every 30 minutes). Is it possible that the ionic silver is plating out, creating a Silver/Gold alloy, and then when the charge is reversed, the silver breaks away carrying some gold with it? I think Sam might be on to something, It wouldn't pay to dismiss it too lightly. I believe that Gold has been shown to have anti-viral and anti-inflammatory properties similar to if not stronger than those of Silver. charlie . -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to:
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2004 #267
On Mar 16, 2004, at 9:54 PM, James Holmes wrote: Stephen Barrett is a duck. I tried to have a net conversation with him. Shill. Hulda Clark sued his ass big time for slandering and libeling her. JOH -Original Message- From: Jodi Waldman Menard [mailto:jwmen...@cox.net] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2004 #267 A while back, when I did a search on Colloidal Silver, Rosemary Jacob's site was the first to come up. I've heard it costs nearly $200,000 per year to stay on top of search engines like that. Now, when I do a search on it, this is first in line: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/ silverad.html This is Stephen Barrett's site. He links to Rosemary Jacob's site for further information. Hmmm. And, of course he denies it, but, I've heard and read that Stephen Barrett has strong FDA and pharmaceutical industry ties. Doesn't that make you wonder?? Could the FDA or pharma cartel be manipulating his/her position in our searches? Jodi Waldman Menard silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote on 3/15/2004, 4:49 PM: Subject: Re: CSCS Dose Amount Date: 3/15/2004, 3:32 PM From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com No she took silver compounds, silver nitrate I believe it was. CS had nothing to do with it at all, but for some reason she refuses to admit that, and is going after CS, when it was not even remotely associated with it. Marshall oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote: Hi Paula, I don't remember the whole story but apparently they didn't have true colloidal silver back then and she took a huge amount of large particles of silver for some reason. My question is, what benefits has she had to her health? Any colds, any infections, any anything? Every time I see this story, I think, the patient didn't die so why do they want to stop everyone from ingesting colloidal silver just because one person over stocked on salt? Excuse me, silver. :) Jean Baugh *** -- Jodi Waldman Menard Stoan Enterprises, Inc. Home Office: (504) 463-3009 Mobile: (504) 416-9330 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSMaking CG repy from Author
very nice description! i, and trem i am sure, are amazed by the experiments our inventors carry out! thanks On Mar 14, 2004, at 5:25 AM, S Nowell wrote: Trem I beg to differ This is how I make it. I use 250 mil distilled water in a glass beaker, add 2 Canadian silverleafs as my electrodes hanging high in the glass beaker right below water level, add 27 volt--3 9s batteries, wait 30 minutes. Right after this I insert my gold electrodes, 22 gauge 99.99 pure, 6 inch each in spiral ( I wrapped them around a pencil) 2 inches total length each. Add the 27 volts and within 5 min I get the ion cloud that grows heavy as time go on. Every 30 minutes I reverse polarity. Total time = 2 hours. I stop after 2 hours because the ion clouds grow smaller and the electrodes start looking nasty. This CG-CS remains clear. It tastes a lot different than CS and I can notice a slight difference in the way that I think, Im not saying that this is good. I understand somewhat of how you make yours, Try to understand how I have made this without your means. I put this out their so other other people may try this without the blunt statement of (it cant be done) prove me wrong I say and I suspect you will try like hell to protect some of your interests? Show yourself by attacking me, somebody with no gain to make. You however I believe has something to gain. Ode Coyote, if your out their please run these experiments, I know you have the means. Tchau Sam It will not work. You need to use high voltage. Trem __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS: MAGLPULSER contact info
magpul...@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Magpulser/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSaspirin
it is true aspirin had been implicated in reye's syndrome. something to be aware of in children. however, as i have heard stated, aspirin is the most studied drug in western pharmacology. the widespread use of aspirin and the data collected on it make it a much more studied commodity than DMSO. recent studies have claimed many benefits to aspirin consumption: heart benefits and cancer benefits among others. aspirin is not under patent protection, it's use is incredibly wide spread, and statisticisms find it easy to track consumption thru interviews. so the data is as good as is practical in this world. i recommend that toddlers don't have unrestricted access to aspirin or DMSO,... or practically anything. On Mar 11, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Garnet wrote: Aspirin has actually killed people, can be very toxic if too much is consumed. DMSO has never killed anyone. Keep the aspirin locked up if you have toddlers. It is called the Third Medical Revolution of the 20th Century, first was antibiotics, second was cortisone. Garnet http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 22:29, William Meyer wrote: i was just telling someone today about the miracles of home made CS and internet bought DMSO. these two substances, properly used, rank with aspirin as wonder drugs. these lists -judiciously moderated- spell out the different applications and once in a while a new application of these substances. just as war and violence seem to be promoted by the powers that be, i can honestly say that the advantages of cooperation and integrative problem solving and non-violence are suppressed like the power of CS and DMSO. people live in fear and fear is taught by the bullies. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMicrons, angstroms etc.
the silverpuppy and the silvergen models produce mostly ionic silver. most dc (battery) systems produce mostly ionic silver. you cannot get any smaller than an ion of silver and still be silver as far as i am aware. i like the silverpuppy at 99 dollars. the smaller the particle the better. some mass manufacturers claim that the smallest non-ionic particles are the best. in other words, they discount and discredit home-made colloidal/ionic silver. my experience is the ionic stuff (homemade) works. you need good distilled water. i have to admit, one of my frustrations with the silvergen i used to own was the test light tripped on 3/4's of the distilled i bought. mebbe MOST of the distilled water out there is bad. i even tried walgreen's vaunted distilled. i never bothered to buy a pwt meter to double check readings. i assumed - from the generators reading- that usable distilled water was somewhat rare. soon after i bought a home distiller for my own water, i sold the silvergen. trem has claimed that even home distilled water is no good! i use the silverpuppy and the home distiller and i get great silver and no hassle. i am unconcerned how or why. the silvergen drove me crazy. trem was very nice (manufacturer of silvergen's), but his explanations of led sequences on the machine did not follow my intuitive logic. the silverpuppy as current is better than the older silvergen sg6. less hassle, less noise, better silver produced, more efficient, more aesthetic in MY experience. the only way i can check silver content is taste. the sg6 was not producing strong tastes after 8 hours in quarts. the silverpuppy has strong taste after one hour in pints. Don from our list now owns the sg6. he may claim no problems. in fact, i welcome him to comment. i will send a copy of this email to him. i never reconciled to the sg6. On Mar 11, 2004, at 8:36 PM, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote: Hi, Can anyone explain the difference between the size of the colloidal silver particles? One company will advertise one way and another company will advertise another way. Apparently the smaller the silver particles, the more beneficial? If this is the case, can anyone say with authority which company sells a generator that produces the smallest particles of colloidal silver? Thank you, Jean Baugh
Re: CSSaying Thanks
i was just telling someone today about the miracles of home made CS and internet bought DMSO. these two substances, properly used, rank with aspirin as wonder drugs. these lists -judiciously moderated- spell out the different applications and once in a while a new application of these substances. just as war and violence seem to be promoted by the powers that be, i can honestly say that the advantages of cooperation and integrative problem solving and non-violence are suppressed like the power of CS and DMSO. people live in fear and fear is taught by the bullies. that was four lines off topic. On Mar 10, 2004, at 5:20 PM, M. G. Devour wrote: Jodi writes: Mike - this list is most definitely one of the most valuable things I have **ever** come across. A very special *** Thank You *** to you for doing what you do. I've been doing this for a few years now, and I can *still* get a tear in my eye from the wonderful sharing of knowledge, experience, success and encouragement by the members of this community. You're welcome Jodi, and thank you for being one of us. To anyone that posts to this list with the intention of sharing knowledge to help and giving testimonial to what they've experienced... please know that it does not fall on deaf ears. And I believe completely what goes around comes around. What you give out, you get back. Giving out so much help; and goodness will only bring the same back home. Light and love to all. Here here! Many thanks to all of our contributors. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS: unsolicited attachment?
i have recieved a .exe attachment thru silverlist from the address below. whassa deal? On Mar 4, 2004, at 12:25 PM, gvagraph...@adelphia.net wrote: aabdb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSClifton Mining Co Stock
on the contrary, history says we have a high probability of a worse bear market than the depression era. i have tracked the markets for 4 years and studied a lot of market history. it is only the giant, unprecedented bull market that ended in 2000 that makes you believe stocks always go up. check out japan for the last 17 years. On Mar 3, 2004, at 5:43 PM, Jan Stoeten wrote: Investors do NOT lose money. Only speculators do. All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands 88 - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:17 PM Subject: Re: CSClifton Mining Co Stock That the sale of 3 million gallons of CS would affect the price of a silver mining stock shows just how little investors can think for themselves. If we assume that this is 10 PPM CS, then that works out to 384 ounces of silver they will sell to make it, and at $6 and ounce that is a grand total gross of under $2400, with a profit of under $1000. Yet the valuation of the stock rose by millions of dollars on this news. No wonder most investors lose money. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS5 days for Malaria
amazing ode! this report is essentially well made home colloidal silver! this is big verification of it's effectiveness in a more official form. On Feb 28, 2004, at 7:45 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: Patented -- no other like it -- accept no substitute. According to independent lab tests...it's exactly like what you any nearly everyone else makes. http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr06/cpr_06.html Ode At 05:22 PM 2/27/2004 +0100, you wrote: http://www.silversolution.us/http://www.silversolution.us/ Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands - Original Message - From: mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.milMedwith, Robert To: mailto:'silver-list@eskimo.com''silver-list@eskimo.com' Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:03 PM Subject: RE: CS5 days for Malaria What is ASAP Solution are they talking about CS Bob -Original Message- From: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.comsilver-list- requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of William Meyer Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:39 AM To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS5 days for Malaria what is notable here is that no mining company can profit from homeopathic silver. so, this has nothing to do with mining profits. it is a different idea. On Feb 27, 2004, at 8:25 AM, Ross Craig wrote: Clifton Mining Company - New Human Study Data Released ALPINE, UT, Feb. 27 /CNW/ - Clifton Mining Company (Clifton)(OTC:CFTN) American Biotech Labs (a private company in which Clifton, the largest shareholder is releasing new human study data on use of the ASAP Solution in west African hospitals, against a number of human ailments including malaria and a viral infections. New Human Studies American Biotech Labs (ABL) has been working in conjunction with four hospitals in West Africa that have been conducting human studies of the ASAP product as a antibiotic alternative against human ailments like malaria, fungal infections, ear infections, measles, septic ulcers and a number of serious viral problems. This is the second set of human studies released by the west African hospitals. The new studies found the product effective against all the above ailments. In conjunction with the human studies, the country of Ghana has approved the ASAP supplement product as a homeopathic drug. Malaria The past ASAP human malarial studies found the product effective in all of the cases averaging only five days of treatment to full recovery. This new study has taken the testing to a new level checking the blood of patients deemed fully recovered to see if any signs of the parasites remain in the bloodstream. According to the data in the studies, the patients showed absolutely no malarial protozoans left in the bloodstream. Over 900 million people are estimated to have this disease, many in poor countries. Said Keith Moeller, VP, Evidence is steadily mounting that we may be able to help millions of people who are suffering from this disease. It is also exciting to see the first human studies in which the product is being used as a treatment for people who suffer from serious viral infections. Testing of the ASAP product continues in the African hospitals, as well as in numerous other facilities worldwide. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS5 days for Malaria
what is notable here is that no mining company can profit from homeopathic silver. so, this has nothing to do with mining profits. it is a different idea. On Feb 27, 2004, at 8:25 AM, Ross Craig wrote: Clifton Mining Company - New Human Study Data Released ALPINE, UT, Feb. 27 /CNW/ - Clifton Mining Company (Clifton)(OTC:CFTN) American Biotech Labs (a private company in which Clifton, the largest shareholder is releasing new human study data on use of the ASAP Solution in west African hospitals, against a number of human ailments including malaria and a viral infections. New Human Studies American Biotech Labs (ABL) has been working in conjunction with four hospitals in West Africa that have been conducting human studies of the ASAP product as a antibiotic alternative against human ailments like malaria, fungal infections, ear infections, measles, septic ulcers and a number of serious viral problems. This is the second set of human studies released by the west African hospitals. The new studies found the product effective against all the above ailments. In conjunction with the human studies, the country of Ghana has approved the ASAP supplement product as a homeopathic drug. Malaria The past ASAP human malarial studies found the product effective in all of the cases averaging only five days of treatment to full recovery. This new study has taken the testing to a new level checking the blood of patients deemed fully recovered to see if any signs of the parasites remain in the bloodstream. According to the data in the studies, the patients showed absolutely no malarial protozoans left in the bloodstream. Over 900 million people are estimated to have this disease, many in poor countries. Said Keith Moeller, VP, Evidence is steadily mounting that we may be able to help millions of people who are suffering from this disease. It is also exciting to see the first human studies in which the product is being used as a treatment for people who suffer from serious viral infections. Testing of the ASAP product continues in the African hospitals, as well as in numerous other facilities worldwide.
Re: CSwater distiller cheap (LINK HERE)
well, i posted and bought it. seems to work fine. i was told on the silver list to not use the simple carbon post distillation filter they provide as it leaves particles in the final product. i bought the distiller to make water for my colloidal silver maker. i got rid of the plastic bottle they provide to cattch the water. terrible plastic smell. the trick then is use a glass bottle to catch the water, but this is not so easy as the distiller drips the water only inches from the base. anyway, one may have to look around for a special container or rig something up. distiller seems to work fine. i'm happy. i also again recommend the silverpuppy for those making colloidal silver. On Feb 24, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Robb Allen wrote: Hi.I'm wondering if anyone bought this distiller?..do you like it?.is it good quality?.thanks.Robb Harmony4Life The High Power Magnetic Pulser http://www.highpowermagneticpulser.com - Original Message - From: William Meyer To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:06 PM Subject: Re: CSwater distiller cheap (LINK HERE) DUH.. http://www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com/distiller-water/american- water-distillers/love-water-distiller.html On Jan 19, 2004, at 10:32 AM, William Meyer wrote: here is a link to distiller. only 99$ apparently. this is the same one i am using and i have failed to see what it's fault might be. in other words it is doing great. i can say you should consider replacing the plastic bottle with some glass set-up. the process does need to stay sealed for the water to be great for CS. that mean if you replace plastic bottle you cant just let the distiller drip down to another bottle. Hi William, Thanks for your info--Most state that a good distiller costs $400 or more--Please share your source for $120. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist hi i make my own distilled water after numerous bouts with poor store DW. a nice distiller can be had for $120. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSswollen tonsils
i absolutely cannot recommend standard milk for anyone. in my case leaving dairy products has been good and supportive of my health. On Feb 23, 2004, at 7:32 AM, TJ Garland wrote: Get them off milk and milk products immediately! TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Marcela Weiland marcelaweil...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSswollen tonsils Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:41:03 -0500 What is the best way to help a child with swollen tonsils and adrenoids. How many tsps of CS a day and for how long? Has anyone had any success with this in the past? Thank you _ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage 4 plans to choose from! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater Ozonator info needed
a quick perusal of the link showed no details of the actual ozonator. if you get details it could be examined. i don't believe there is a free lunch with such a cheap ozonator. ozone can be produced with different systems, but they all have strengths and weaknesses. at this price point i would be very leery of something durable and effective. On Feb 17, 2004, at 9:52 PM, SilverTedEBear wrote: I'm thinking about buying a water ozonator but most of the ones I've seen are just too expensive for me... $270 and up... ie: SOTA. After a little research I came across this unit for $119: http://www.therabreath.com/products.asp?FID=6PID=128 Does anyone know anything about this unit or have any experience with it? Any info on it or other affordable ozonators would be appreciated. Ted __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.X/filing.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater filter?
hmmm. that certainly is an aerator, the question is weather there needs to be additional time after aeration for the oxidation to take place. neet idea. On Feb 17, 2004, at 9:32 PM, TJ Garland wrote: Right. I forgot to mention that I sprayed it into the buckets thru a shower head. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWater filter? Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:54:33 -0500 This will work if the iron is in the non-soluble form, but if it is in the soluble form I doubt it will do much. To make it into the non-soluble form it is necessary to ariate it to provide oxygen, and also add lime or a base if it is acid. Once this is done the iron will form rust which can easily be filtered out. Marshall TJ Garland wrote: Go to a fabric store and buy a couple yards of 50/50 cotton polyester quilt batting to filter out the iron. I made a filter with 2 5 gallon buckets that were drilled and used the fabric between them . It removed almost all the iron. I changed the fabric out once a month on my well. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWater filter? Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:23:03 -0600 Evening Marjie, thinking of getting me some leeches and let them dine on my toes. You could consider making blood donations from time to time. I really hate to do it because I have spent so much effort and so much money over the years trying to make it high quality. Still, I never feel it at all when I do it. If the problem is iron algae or bacteria you're talking thousands for complete whole house treatment. Some of my neighbors have the problem so bad the water is brown as mud..mine isn't that bad but has a distict flavor and stains everything eventually. We has a similar situation at my hunting camp. A very deep well, 8 inch casing, and a 3 HP pump submerged in the well. The filter selected cost about $ 1500. It does a good job, with automatic back flushing, and chemical injectors.The water has no smell, no brown color and tastes half decent. I don't drink it but the others do. I carry my own water everywhere I go. I was surprised what a good job it does. I did not select the filter nor did I help with the installation due to other obligations at the time. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Find great local high-speed Internet access value at the MSN High-Speed Marketplace. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal
Re: CSWater filter?
marshall got this right. i would guess most iron from a well will Not be filtered by any fiber filter until it is oxidized by an additional mechanism. TJ has got to present more evidence and description of his whole system. On Feb 15, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: This will work if the iron is in the non-soluble form, but if it is in the soluble form I doubt it will do much. To make it into the non-soluble form it is necessary to ariate it to provide oxygen, and also add lime or a base if it is acid. Once this is done the iron will form rust which can easily be filtered out. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSoff topic posts
i have certainly posted off topic and mr devour has very kindly directed me to the off topic list. i haven't gotten there... but i promise to meet his guidance in the future. he has commented that some queries or subjects other than CS can be posted and replied to ONCE on an informative, factual basis. obviously, the most legitimate posting would be strictly alternative health related. it does seem time that we serve new members of our list by getting back to CS. for those wanting more information, go to the bottom of these emails and notice the web site http://silverlist.org; this will give links to the off topic list and archives. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLyme Photos
the web site definitely pertains to lyme. the authors however, in their attempt to treat lyme claim that they have removed a lot of worm like parasites. they make a loose assertion that these worm like parasites are somehow connected to lyme. i must say the salt and vit c regime -the salt dose portion- is indeed radical. i find it hard to believe i could tolerate that much salt. nevertheless, if the salt didn't thro your body into shock, it certainly might freak out a lot of free ranging parasites. there are a number of therapies, urine therapy comes to mind, that seem to always remain on the fringe because very, very, few people will ever try them. so, claims related to them remain in a netherworld of confirmation. On Feb 12, 2004, at 11:00 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I am a little confused by this site. He seems to refer to the Lyme spirochetes as worms. Unless I am mistaken, the Lyme bacteria are like corkscrews, and are too small to see with the naked eye. He talks about worms working their way out through the skin, and the photos on the first page do not look like spirochetes to me. Is it possible that this fellow did not have lyme at all, but some form of worms? Am I missing something? Marshall Robb Allen wrote: I agree that it is probably safe..but I have been unable to keep the salt down that they recommendit is a huge amount...if it does work.then I need to find a better way to get that much salt in my systemRobb Harmony4Life The High Power Magnetic Pulser http://www.highpowermagneticpulser.com - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:45 AM Subject: Re: CSLyme Photos bodies by taking 1 gram of salt and 1 gram of vit C at the same time.12 times a day.and they have some pretty remarkable pictures on the website..waiting to hear from you. I read most of it and looked at the pictures. Fantastic ! I wish I could get some pictures that good with my microscope. In addition, I was delighted to find some support for my ideas on salt. Even Adelle Davis was in favor of more salt. She stated that it was a mistake to take glaucoma patients off salt. She said that in every case, they improved when salt was added back to the diet. The Water Cure doctor, Batmanghelidj stated we need 2000 or 2500 mg of salt per day. I weighed out this amount, put it in small vials, and keep salt in my truck, backpack, and range box. I have never been able to ingest as much as he suggested. I believe that we have been told many lies about salt by the mainstream. I suppose it is too cheap to be considered a medicine. Yet I think it is valuable to some people. All the crap about salt and blood pressure is a lie ! I have read that salt can have a bad effect on 50 % of the people. So, what about the other half? maybe it has a favorable effect on many functions. I have experienced that salt will remove pressure in the eyes in seconds. While I have not had a true headache in years, at rare times, I feel a pressure in the eyes. not severe by any means, but it reminds me of the days when I had an occasional headache. I sure don't want one of those again. I have not researched this a lot, but the salt will relieve the pressure within 30 to 45 seconds. We need to research this more. I would try the salt and vitamin C for a time, but I don't know what I would accomplish, other than prove it is not harmful. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStaking supplements]
i hate to say it, but you can support organic farming by requesting organic produce at your local supermarket and even more so by looking around your area for the closest small organic grower. ask around alternative health practitioners. small organic farms are the antithesis of genetically modified seeds and mass fertilizer and pesticide users. i am not saying to get rid of factory farms, i am saying to support more local farming. the smaller the scale, the more attractive organic is to a farmer. On Feb 11, 2004, at 1:58 PM, Jack Dayton wrote: Garnet 2/10/04 5:36 PM Wrote: To my knowledge organic farmers do not use tons of chemicals and I prefer to rely on nature's balance. ** That's probably right, but where in my previous post on the subject of soil nutrient depletion did I use the phrase organic farmers ? I am aware that some grocery stores offer a limited selection of organically grown foods -- no doubt ignored by a great majority of shoppers, so where do they get their vitamins minerals, other than those mandated by our government -- in woefully inadequate amounts ? Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT to some. Mobil and Exxon Gas
the original post by cindy is well taken. as far as good honest men working for the oil companies, that is a good thing to remember.however, most of the armies of the world are populated by such good neighbors. yet they go out and kil and slaughter each other and civilians. collateral damage. good honest men are also paid highly in our society to lie and manipulate. the most obvious of these are ad men, lawyers, and most politicians. my point is that we may need to take a larger moral scope than just how civil we are as neighbors and how much money we bring home. On Feb 9, 2004, at 11:32 PM, James Holmes wrote: Is there some place I can make a donation to help out the abused and under compensated international oil companies? JOH -Original Message- From:The Hatzfeld's [mailto:ha...@airmail.net] Sent:Monday, February 09, 2004 4:39 PM To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSOT to some. Mobil and Exxon Gas This old thing has been around for about 2 years. I think it's too simplistic to say since a product you are using costs more than you would like you then get others to help boycott it. I don't know where the hatred of oil companies come from. My dad worked for Mobil for 40 years and was friends with men from other companies since we lived overseas. They were all good, hard-working and honest men. Looking at the process of bringing the gasoline to us starts with the oil companies hiring competent and educated professionals like geologists and engineers to locate the oil, then building the drills and refineries to process it. Then the oil companies have a variety of different countries they have to deal with in order to just do business. Did you know some years ago that many of the countries where oil is drilled nationalized and so they were legally able to steal ALL of the oil companies equipment? I'd bet they still have occasions where they must deal with corruption. When the oil is ready for shipment, it's brought over in a tanker and distributed to eventually be sold at your local gas station. All things considered, we're not paying that much for the gas. Of course we'd all like to pay less for goods services - just bought my first bottle of CS at the health food store costs more (2 oz. for $14) - let's get real here. Cindy
Re: CScancel ALL FURTHER INFORMATION ON CS
well, i am not only greatful to brooks and marshall, but i also appreciate wayne and ode coyote. and mr harris. i appreciate many members of this list. also mr devour. thanks meanwhile, i will try to stay on topic CS. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSok, question on making cs -can you believe it?
hi i recently bought a new generator. made some cs that was clear and had mettalic taste. meanwhile... i had a previous batch in a clean jar made by my previous generator. this was clear and i assume it actually was cs. i say this because it was hard for me to discern metallic taste. so... i emptied this clean jar, sprayed some 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide that used tap water as a dilution solution on the inside, let the jar drain (tho there were still some drops clinging to the inside of the jar), and... poured the new cs from my new generator into the jar. this clear cs immediately turned to yellowish cloudy consistency in this jar. ***what happened? is this stuff still good? what was the reaction? there is more to making good cs than meets the eye. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim
hi the link below claims to be able to home brew zinc, copper, and gold ionic solutions. this seems pretty new for a home generator. i know water oz proprietary process claims to use another process rather than our electrical ionic method to produce their colloidal minerals. http://colloidalsilvergens.com/generator-info/ colloidal_gold_generator.htm i admit, there seems to be no information on the process at the above link, but if anyone wishes to spend the time i would be happy for an off the cuff comment. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim
hi i have forwarded this message to brent who makes the generators On Feb 8, 2004, at 1:28 PM, Frank Key wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is never a problem with 'current runaway'. ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no current run away? How? Is that particle size theoretical or actual? I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim. I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMisc/ephedra
hi i have to say that the political situation mirrors the disinformation and harm that is going on in regards to the supplement industry. the powerful gluing of business/multinational corporations and politics is no longer stoppable. if you search out and consider alternate information regarding other issues besides CS, i believe you will begin to see we -as citizens- have a problem log years beyond what the conventional media let's you see. i am not opening a discussion here, but i feel it is appropriate to say this here at this time. Terry-the idiots here in the US decided that ephedra is dangerous and has killed 65(?) people the last couple years-- Which I think is a damned lie. Just saw Tom Brokejaw announce that it was outlawed now. He forgot to mention that ephedrine is the main ingredient in Claritin(now otc). The big pharmas are pure evil. I am ready for some serious civil disobedience against this industry. Everyone should read Unintended Consequences by John Ross TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. _ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- best, willian
Re: CSMisc/ephedra
they have -or are trying- to ban andestinione or some spelling of a precurser to testosterone. the only problem is the bill's wording would allow banning of many precursers to hormones under certain inter pretations. this includes dhea for instance. these guys fight the fda and are a fountain of non-ama information. http://www.lef.org. non-profit. but, just one teeny teeny example of how our interests here are like children complaining of having their sand shovels taken away: our voting system: the first pillar our attempt at democracy, is under attack using this same technique. many states are instituting electronic voting, but the voting machines and software are controlled by PRIVATE COMPANIES. got it? so, diebold is a big company making some of these machines. internal emails in diebold indicated they were hiding -and aware of- major flaws in their system. these emails were leaked and posted on the internet. diebold intimidated isp's into shutting down these web sites. how? by threatening the isp's with the digital millenium copyright act. this act was supposedly only to limit piracy of digital software and movies, etc.. http://www.blackboxvoting.org/oj/archive-1.htm I've seen our lovely government try to take away our dietary supplement rights twice now-one is currently under way and the first got shot down big time-but this is an outright shame. If your ever tried this marvelous herb (you know whether you can take it after the first try), you know how effective it is for energy and weight loss. I've taken it on and off for 10 years and sold it for over 15 years!!! My mom-who also owns a health food store and is 65-took it for years for energy. She was taking ephedra at 62 years old with NO reactions! Last year she discovered it just made her too jittery and so she simply stopped. Gee, what a novel idea!!! To stop something that gives you a bad reaction. Herbs are very powerful so follow the darn directions!!! Unlike the baseball player who died from heat exhaustion, not from supplementing with ephedra, but was taking twice the dose and not drinking enough water and who was also training in really hot temperatures. I believe this whole thing came down due to consumer ignorance and the pharmaceutical co. are in the pockets of the FDA- duh :) Are they going to take all the OTC products with ephedrine away as well? It's all derived or synthesized from ephedra. If you believe this is unfair-write your senators and oppose the bill '722' The Safe Dietary Supplement Act. It's just going to get worse because this is only a form of control and unfortunately this time-they won! - Original Message - From: TJ Garland goldenok...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: RE: CSMisc/ephedra Terry-the idiots here in the US decided that ephedra is dangerous and has killed 65(?) people the last couple years-- Which I think is a damned lie. Just saw Tom Brokejaw announce that it was outlawed now. He forgot to mention that ephedrine is the main ingredient in Claritin(now otc). The big pharmas are pure evil. I am ready for some serious civil disobedience against this industry. Everyone should read Unintended Consequences by John Ross TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. _ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- best, willian
Re: CSSilver is Safer
hi all, silver and grey cars literally can disappear in overcast conditions. i live in ithaca, ny.. we have less sun than seattle wa.. if your car is grey or silver, than one HAS to run one's lights to alert other drivers of your presence. Greetings, This is contrary to my experience with a silver car (I live in Portland, OR). During late fall, winter, and spring (the rainy season) silver is difficult to see on grey days. I felt like people were trying to get me. Later I purchased a black car and didn't have the problem anymore. Here, it is my humble observation, that more older folks drive white cars...don't know why. I don't have access to stats on colors/accidents, etc. I will see if they are available. Interesting subject. Ciao, Craig Marshall Dudley wrote: Do they have an explaination? Is the silver easier to see, or people who select silver older or better drivers? Curious. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- best, willian
CSwalgreens distilled failed
hi i bought walgreens distilled water from an ankron ohiq store and it kept tripping my conductance meter. i bought another batch from a different company and it was fine. this was recently. -- best, willian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwalgreens distilled failed
was distilled william meyer 12/12/03 5:53 PM Wrote: i bought walgreens distilled water from an ankron ohiq store and it kept tripping my conductance meter. * Interesting are you sure you got DISTILLED water? The drinking water label is almost identical. In the store I buy from the bottles are side by side on the shelf -- BAD idea. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- best, willian
Re: CSRe: LYME-it does work
abx (antibiotics) can be succesful against lyme, especially earlier in it's progress. oral abx's can be mixed, matched and timed to have greater or lesser effect according to the skill of the prescriber and the length of infection. IV is similar, but is usually considered the only resort for cases past a year. really, these treatments are an art that only dedicated lyme doctors can prescribe and manipulate succesfully. really! on the other hand, straight doxy begun within a few weeks may effect a cure depending on lot's of factors. colloidal silver has been helpful at all stages. no studies to bear this out but lot's of solid anecdote from our list. me being one. there are many things in the alternative realm regards to lyme that won't hurt and have a good chance of helping. most of the treatments actually strengthen the body so that one may help other conditions as well as lyme. Thanks William and Marshall. If I understand correctly, Doxy is successful if employed soon after being infected, while CS proved successful LONG after? Have an acquaintance who's had it 5 years and dismisses trying CS in favor of whatever her doc is doing for her now, which is completely ineffective. How much and for how long did each of you take CS before success, please? I'd like to point her to something definitely positive, without sounding like the proverbial broken record. (Gave her Marshalee's success story, too, but it wasn't enough to convince her to try it.) jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- best, willian
RE: CSLYME-it does work
hi JOH the last tick bite gave me fatigue but no additive lyme symptoms... i did 14 days under the theory that it was some co-infection. let's hope i was right... Hello William, You may already be aware, but the reproductive cycle of the Lyme organism is about 35 days. So it is probably good to continue treatment beyond complete remission of symptoms. JOH -Original Message- From: william meyer [mailto:calis...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLYME-it does work hi i have had lyme success with ionic silver. i was never diagnosed with lyme because diagnosing lyme is a pitiful joke. i have heard story after story of deluded souls traipsing from one doctor to another while they ordered test after test that are known to be unbelievably inconsistent. in many cases tests that came back positive were then disregarded by the doctors in question. for you lymies out there: lyme is a CLININCAL diagnosis and there is no magic bullet. the last time i was bitten by a tick i ordered antibiotics myself from a PET STORE on the net. no prescription neccesary. that means i didnt have to pay 150 dollars to convince a doctor- as i did the first time- to prescribe DOXY. i strongly suggest anyone who is within five days of a tick bite with symptoms to start on antibiotics immediately. add silver too. in my case silver helped me in later stages of lyme control my infection. i still have minor symptoms, but i also am still early in my chronic lyme treatment protocol. one has to do many things chronically to treat chronic lyme. one limitation of silver is my belief that i need to do it on an empty stomach. the doxy i took with or without food and that was a help and convenience. it is more than possible a proper silver regime will take care completely of an early lyme or co-infection (bartonella, erlichiosis, rockky mountanin spotted fever) from a tick bite. it may not stop the malaria like tick borne organism, babesiosis. neither will DOXY. in my case i am well versed in common tick borne infections and i assume my last bite transmitted something other than lyme. whatever it was, it was knocked out with doxy. i took 200mg for 14 days. if i had had lyme symptoms (NEW ONES) i would have continued my treatment longer. i urge anyone that is bitten by a deer tick to start the most agressive protocol possible if they begin to develop symptoms of lyme. i actually urge my friends to keep doxy around because delay is a terrible risk for chronic lyme later. again, someone who is well skilled with silver would probably have as \strong a medicine as doxy in silver. my experience is silver is VERY effective against lyme. -- best, willian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- best, willian
CSfire ant mound disturbing +possible nontoxic poison
hi one reason not to disturb mounds is to attempt to limit their infestation, in other words, disturbing the mounds will spread them around and make it harder to avoid being bitten. if they have a mound, you can more easily avoid them. place a flag at each mound. for house ants, sugar will destroy them. they take it to their nests and in three generations the colony is sterile from lack of proper nutrition, fire ants may not be as rabid for sugar, but it works on house ants. Someone posted about not disturbing the mounds; I respectfully disagree despite all the poison and bait instructions that say not to disturb the mound. -- best, willian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLYME-it does work
hi i have had lyme success with ionic silver. i was never diagnosed with lyme because diagnosing lyme is a pitiful joke. i have heard story after story of deluded souls traipsing from one doctor to another while they ordered test after test that are known to be unbelievably inconsistent. in many cases tests that came back positive were then disregarded by the doctors in question. for you lymies out there: lyme is a CLININCAL diagnosis and there is no magic bullet. the last time i was bitten by a tick i ordered antibiotics myself from a PET STORE on the net. no prescription neccesary. that means i didnt have to pay 150 dollars to convince a doctor- as i did the first time- to prescribe DOXY. i strongly suggest anyone who is within five days of a tick bite with symptoms to start on antibiotics immediately. add silver too. in my case silver helped me in later stages of lyme control my infection. i still have minor symptoms, but i also am still early in my chronic lyme treatment protocol. one has to do many things chronically to treat chronic lyme. one limitation of silver is my belief that i need to do it on an empty stomach. the doxy i took with or without food and that was a help and convenience. it is more than possible a proper silver regime will take care completely of an early lyme or co-infection (bartonella, erlichiosis, rockky mountanin spotted fever) from a tick bite. it may not stop the malaria like tick borne organism, babesiosis. neither will DOXY. in my case i am well versed in common tick borne infections and i assume my last bite transmitted something other than lyme. whatever it was, it was knocked out with doxy. i took 200mg for 14 days. if i had had lyme symptoms (NEW ONES) i would have continued my treatment longer. i urge anyone that is bitten by a deer tick to start the most agressive protocol possible if they begin to develop symptoms of lyme. i actually urge my friends to keep doxy around because delay is a terrible risk for chronic lyme later. again, someone who is well skilled with silver would probably have as \strong a medicine as doxy in silver. my experience is silver is VERY effective against lyme. -- best, willian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS newbie questions
hi jr i have read here that silver can be classified as both a heavy metal and a noble metal. apparently the noble metals tend to act differently. silver has a long history of use and very little literature of ill effects, if any. turning blue is rare and a lot of people on this list have used silver for long periods with no problem. Two questions from acquaintences: 1 - Silver is a HEAVY METAL. Excess heavy metal in the body can and does lead to various forms of HEAVY METAL poisoning. Why needn't CS users be concerned? 2 - What exactly was it in politician Stan Jacob's use of tap water---a definite no-no---that caused the skin blueness? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- best, willian
CSdisclaimer?
hi ode this disclaimer of yours is just a little too much tho i see your satire and humor. the truth is the med/fed/corporation consortium is way beyond their place in attacking different information. who told us that only people certified by the ama or whatever are the only people who can offer information on treating a condition? at some point you have to call a spade a spade. i have the right to think and diseminate information that i believe may be helpful. i believe that there are issues today that have grown big enough that we need to seriously consider our place in relation to those powers that seek to govern us. i believe men and woman of good will are required to say no if they clearly see a law as unjust. that's all i will say on this topic. In big bold black letters, taking up the entire top of the page so as not to be possibly missed, place a disclaimer such as: I am not a doctor and am, therefore, not qualified to give medical advise. All communication is, therefore, hearsay and opinion from people who also may not be qualified. I am as entitled to my opinion as anyone else, but it should not be taken as anything BUT My opinion along with the added condition that I am not qualified to have an opinion that's to be taken the least bit seriously. You wouldn't take advise from the village idiot, now would you? But you just might use something the village idiot said to form YOUR OWN OPINION. I say ONLY what I think and do and repeat what I have HEARD that OTHERS [qualified or not] think and do. I am NOT making any distiction between them. ASSUME THAT I AND EVERYONE HERE IS ENTIRELY IGNORANT. BY NO MEANS should ANYTHING be taken as what YOU should think or do. YOU ARE ENTIRELY RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT IS IN YOUR HEAD. IT IS NOT AND NEVER WAS MY INTENTION TO PUT ANYTHING, AT ALL, THERE. IF YOU WANT ADVISE, GO ASK SOMEONE WHO IS QUALIFIED TO GIVE IT. I WANT THIS TO BE VERY VERY CLEAR THAT PERSON IS NOT ME OR ANYONE I KNOW OR ANYONE I COMMUNICATE WITH. Then be careful to use disqualifiers such as I heard or I believe. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdisclaimer?
hi jason i just did view your inspiring disclaimer. I am very very greatful for your tremendous work on the site and i support you without reservation. Hi William: You haven't seen our disclaimer have you? Best Regards, Jason silvermedicine.org -- best, willian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSYahoo group posting our messsages
if you go to the website you will see that almost all of the posts are from homer simpson with an adress like tofu2u2. this is a group that exists only in the mind of this individual. -- best, willian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPh of Distilled water?
hi paula the chemistry is different. other substances in the apple cider vinegar and lemon juice are supposed to catalyze an alkaline reaction in the body. as far as DW -distilled water- it is supposed to become more acid as it ages. picks up co2 -which is acid- from the air and incorporates it into the water chemically. the above are two observations i have read. i am not a chemistry guy. Nenah, Couple questions re acidic DW and CS: I often read that apple cider vinegar and acidic juices such as lemon juice, when ingested, actually have an alkalinizing effect in the body.so why doesn't acidic DW and CS do the same? TIA, paula - Original Message - From: mailto:ne...@bestweb.netNenah Sylver To: mailto:bober...@swbell.netbober...@swbell.net ; mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:42 PM Subject: Re: CSPh of Distilled water? I am stating my *own* preference to obtain distilled water in as pure state as possible, due to the numerous serious problems that arise when people drink acidic water. I encourage you or anyone else to read the excerpt on water and minerals from my Rife Handbook. To learn more about pH and the body, -- best, willian
CSbrain tumor and diet soda
how sad i had a friend who consumed a lot of diet soda's and he died at 52. strangely (or not!) his father died of a brain tumor at 52. -- best, willian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSlyme success helped by silver
hi all i am doing well as regards lyme disease over a year after bite. i feel the 2 ounces a day of ionic silver 5ppm had been a real help. i tell lymies it works period, and that they should augment their oral abx with it. many new cases of lyme are just undermedicated and rather than fight the docs on abx, i say hit the lyme with high allicin enteric garlic capsules and the silver too. a three pronged attack add perhaps an immune booster like immunocal. i feel confident that my dosing schedule and low ppm take me out of risk for the blue stuff. i don't recommend people do 2 ounces forever, but i am a believer that a tablespoon a day may be a good thing even in health. any other suggestions for lyme on this list please chime in. -- best william meyer -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:raw garlic
hi again raw garlic or special high allicin capsules have been a mainstay with me for combatting lymes disease. i've had it over a year. in order to create the allicin in garlic one must crush the clove thoroughly and let it sit for 5 minutes at least. this allows a substrate and enzyme to combine in the garlic. apparently garlic produces this as a defence when an insect bites it's bulb. garlic, raw onion, or grapes are excellent with cheese to help digest it. -- best william meyer -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
