Re: CSlupus
This is on the Mercola site: Researchers have discovered that at very low dosages (3 to 4.5 mg), naltrexone has immunomodulating properties that may be able to successfully treat cancer malignancies, and a wide range of autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis (MS), Parkinson’s, fibromyalgia, and Crohn’s disease, just to name a few. At http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/579395 Vitamin D in Systemic Lupus Erythematosus says: Prospective studies of vitamin D in systemic lupus erythematosus are limited, but most cross-sectional studies show an inverse relationship between levels of vitamin D and disease activity. This suggests that repletion of vitamin D may have benefits beyond bone health for patients with systemic lupus erythematosus. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSlupus
Has anyone any information or experience of the above please? A friend has this and I was wondering if there is any help for it. Many thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlupus
I'll say its either infection of food allergies. ~David On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Has anyone any information or experience of the above please? A friend has this and I was wondering if there is any help for it. Many thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlupus
CMO has proven effective for lupus as well as a number of other autoimmune disorders. Marshall On 8/3/2011 3:18 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Has anyone any information or experience of the above please? A friend has this and I was wondering if there is any help for it. Many thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSlupus
A woman I knew years ago, controlled it with diet and stress management. PT -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSlupus Has anyone any information or experience of the above please? A friend has this and I was wondering if there is any help for it. Many thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3807 - Release Date: 08/03/11
RE: CSlupus
One of my daughters had a severe reaction to an antibiotic administered for an open wound leg infection a while ago and this was her case. Woke up with eyes swollen shut, and I believe a puffy face. Her sister worked at a chemist shop at the time and the Pharmacist asked if she was developing an 'butterfly' pattern on her back, if so, get her straight to the doctor as that is a sign of lupus developing. Sister went home and checked and discovered a sort of half butterfly pattern starting to develop, so immediately took daughter to doctor. Doctor gave an injection immediately to counteract the antibiotic. When she got home I went around and gave her EIS to take for the infection as now there was nothing being done to treat the infection. Happy ending for lupus, and infection cleared up in a week or so. The 'butterfly' pattern apparently is a good sign of lupus developing. And this particular pharamcist I would trust my life with as she is brilliant with her knowledge. FWIW. N. Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:24:02 -0700 Subject: Re: CSlupus From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I'll say its either infection of food allergies. ~David On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Has anyone any information or experience of the above please? A friend has this and I was wondering if there is any help for it. Many thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlupus
Probably a yang deficiency, depending upon the overall energetic pattern. Hard to say without examining the patient. Probably qi and blood stagnation in the extremities. On 8/3/2011 2:24 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: I'll say its either infection of food allergies. ~David On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrickd...@deetroy.org wrote: Has anyone any information or experience of the above please? A friend has this and I was wondering if there is any help for it. Many thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLupus, cancer, arthritis etc. autoimmune? or bugs having lunch?
Sorry, it's new to me too. My only tools would be my Enar device, which I started using seriously again after reading this, and Bob Luhr's godzilla devices (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/?yguid=372310832 ) which I intend to use again when I make some more attachments for the 6v battery, having been a bit too kind in parting with what I had made, possibly to people who don't appreciate/use it. I've been given a Hulda Clark device, but can't tell how to get it going, what goes where. It's a home made device and not like anything I've seen before. Rowena Actually, if I had any sense I would be using the 6v battery daily even without wiring/electrodes simply by winding some damp cotton or tissue around the terminals and touching them with fingers or toes. Don't use higher than 6v without better technology in between you and it is the advice. People do, but at their own risk. It's not advised to go unprotected higher than 6v. At least that would likely kill some germs, I don't know about raising voltage. To do exactly what Dr Tennant is doing you may need his device. However, I guess you could research and compare with goodies from the various Scenar and Denas sites. I think they are all a huge leap forward. On 15/09/2010 4:18 AM, needling around wrote: Hi Rowena, How do you raise your voltage? I have started watching the videos and I agree with some things and not with others. Dr. Tennant has a very expensive piece of equipment but I would think that there must be a simpler way. Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:41 PM Subject: CSLupus, cancer, arthritis etc. autoimmune? or bugs having lunch? Dr Jerry Tennant An Understanding of How the body Works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrgqXs9FZAfeature=related This is just a quick transcription with lots of holes in it, so please watch the videos on this page! If you have low voltage things begin to hurt, you hurt all the time. If you have pain, you have low voltage. It controls the level of oxygen that's available, so if I start bubbling oxygen in the water through a tube the amount that will dissolve is determined by the voltage of the water, Higher - more oxygen, lower, leaves the water.. Our cells are 70% water. When the voltage drops in a cell the oxygen comes out and the cell has to get by with too little oxygen. We have a system inside the cells that generates energy for the cells to do their work. Insert fat in one side of the Krebs cycle and what comes out the other side is a rechargeable battery called ATP - provides all the Electrons for your enzymes for your cell and discharges into a discharged rechargeable battery called ADP. 38 molecules out the other side - lots of energy. If oxygen not available, for every unit of fat you only get 2 molecules of ATP Each of us contain a trillion bugs or so and they are asleep as long as oxygen is available. When they wake up with the drop of oxygen they want to eat. They put out digestive enzymes to get the nutrients out of your cells. Damaging the cells around them, but also go to distant places and damage cells there as well. Strep throat - bacteria having lunch there. Enzymes strep puts out can get in blood stream and scar heart. Damage knees, rheum arthritis. Same goes on through the body, so low voltage in gall bladder, and bugs there put out toxins that commonly damage the brain, so brain not working well could be because of low voltage in gall bladder. I don't believe there is such a thing as autoimmune disease, just bugs having lunch and these enzymes going somewhere doing damage.. When we can't culture anything we say, oh, the body is attacking itself. Well, the body is not attacking itself, these enzymes that the bugs are putting out are attacking it. And one of the reasons I can say that is I have taken a fair number of people with Lupus with a high blood test called ANA, you go in, raise the voltage kill the bugs and the ANA goes back to normal and the people get well. Simply low voltage, bugs having lunch, enzymes going places and causing grief. So then if voltage gets low enough, one of the bugs that grow are fungal bugs that you can see in the blood with a darkfield microscope. And then those fungal forms begin to take over the cell and now you have a tumour, and that occurs at plus thirty mV Chronic disease always defined by low voltage. More questions: How do we measure the voltage? Acupuncture system just the fascial planes in the body to every organ and from that capsule a fibre goes down to every group of cells, so what we know as the fascia is the same as acupuncture system so you can tap into that and measure what is going on with the internal organs. Also a sheath around every nerve, a second wiring system that carries voltage wherever we go
Re: CSLupus, cancer, arthritis etc. autoimmune? or bugs having lunch?
In a message dated 9/15/2010 1:08:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, new...@internode.on.net writes: Dr Jerry Tennant An Understanding of How the body Works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrgqXs9FZAfeature=related This is just a quick transcription with lots of holes in it, so please watch the videos on this page! DR Glenn Gordon must have read Tennant's book as he told me about the same thing. Except the low level infrared laser directs your body to send oxygen to the point where the laser beam is directed. He said your cells use oxygen as a fuel and die off when the oxygen level drops too low. I guess the oxygen drink using MMS is required so you have some oxygen to send. I have been treating all kinds of problems with just the laser itself. It does not seem to do that much for my recent knee replacement. I have a lot of edema swelling. Been trying the re bounder with only one leg to try to get rid of extra lymph. Brickey
CSLupus, cancer, arthritis etc. autoimmune? or bugs having lunch?
Dr Jerry Tennant An Understanding of How the body Works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrgqXs9FZAfeature=related This is just a quick transcription with lots of holes in it, so please watch the videos on this page! If you have low voltage things begin to hurt, you hurt all the time. If you have pain, you have low voltage. It controls the level of oxygen that's available, so if I start bubbling oxygen in the water through a tube the amount that will dissolve is determined by the voltage of the water, Higher - more oxygen, lower, leaves the water.. Our cells are 70% water. When the voltage drops in a cell the oxygen comes out and the cell has to get by with too little oxygen. We have a system inside the cells that generates energy for the cells to do their work. Insert fat in one side of the Krebs cycle and what comes out the other side is a rechargeable battery called ATP - provides all the Electrons for your enzymes for your cell and discharges into a discharged rechargeable battery called ADP. 38 molecules out the other side - lots of energy. If oxygen not available, for every unit of fat you only get 2 molecules of ATP Each of us contain a trillion bugs or so and they are asleep as long as oxygen is available. When they wake up with the drop of oxygen they want to eat. They put out digestive enzymes to get the nutrients out of your cells. Damaging the cells around them, but also go to distant places and damage cells there as well. Strep throat - bacteria having lunch there. Enzymes strep puts out can get in blood stream and scar heart. Damage knees, rheum arthritis. Same goes on through the body, so low voltage in gall bladder, and bugs there put out toxins that commonly damage the brain, so brain not working well could be because of low voltage in gall bladder. I don't believe there is such a thing as autoimmune disease, just bugs having lunch and these enzymes going somewhere doing damage.. When we can't culture anything we say, oh, the body is attacking itself. Well, the body is not attacking itself, these enzymes that the bugs are putting out are attacking it. And one of the reasons I can say that is I have taken a fair number of people with Lupus with a high blood test called ANA, you go in, raise the voltage kill the bugs and the ANA goes back to normal and the people get well. Simply low voltage, bugs having lunch, enzymes going places and causing grief. So then if voltage gets low enough, one of the bugs that grow are fungal bugs that you can see in the blood with a darkfield microscope. And then those fungal forms begin to take over the cell and now you have a tumour, and that occurs at plus thirty mV Chronic disease always defined by low voltage. More questions: How do we measure the voltage? Acupuncture system just the fascial planes in the body to every organ and from that capsule a fibre goes down to every group of cells, so what we know as the fascia is the same as acupuncture system so you can tap into that and measure what is going on with the internal organs. Also a sheath around every nerve, a second wiring system that carries voltage wherever we go. Two wires, so if one is cut or damaged failsafe system, perineural and acupuncture, so if one fails the other is still working. Pretty smart guy that designed this system we call the human body, right? We use primarily the acupuncture system. One of the things that's important that all our muscles both electron generators and storage. Piezo emits electrons, muscles do the same thing. Rechargeable, exercise so great for us, not only moves the lymphatics but creates and stores the voltage. Main Power cable runs up the back and down the front carrying voltage to power terminals. Switching Terminals on Main Power Cables for each part of the body. If you have illness one of those areas then you can find that terminal has low voltage, you want to put electrons in there and that's the port you can do it. Why did my voltage get low in the first place. If I don't remember to put the dome light off the car battery is low. We need to see what causes the problem. One thing different about patients is some have normal total body voltage and others don't. If I don't figure out why it dropped in the first place it's going to be a problem again even if we fix it. All circuits may be normal except this one, and I have … WE heal primarily by making new cells. New cells require minus fifty minivolts….. smaller no but more horsepower. Healing requires minus fifty. When your voltage below operating, minus fifty, tired, lower sick, further down plus thirty millivolts cancer starts. Everything from tired to cancer, and it is all about the voltage. We need to push the voltage up not just to operating but to healing to make new cells. When voltage changes chronic pain is a symptom of low voltage. Put in electrons and it gets well. At -10, out of juice, I'm stuck
Re: CSLupus, cancer, arthritis etc. autoimmune? or bugs having lunch?
Hi Rowena, How do you raise your voltage? I have started watching the videos and I agree with some things and not with others. Dr. Tennant has a very expensive piece of equipment but I would think that there must be a simpler way. Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:41 PM Subject: CSLupus, cancer, arthritis etc. autoimmune? or bugs having lunch? Dr Jerry Tennant An Understanding of How the body Works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrgqXs9FZAfeature=related This is just a quick transcription with lots of holes in it, so please watch the videos on this page! If you have low voltage things begin to hurt, you hurt all the time. If you have pain, you have low voltage. It controls the level of oxygen that's available, so if I start bubbling oxygen in the water through a tube the amount that will dissolve is determined by the voltage of the water, Higher - more oxygen, lower, leaves the water.. Our cells are 70% water. When the voltage drops in a cell the oxygen comes out and the cell has to get by with too little oxygen. We have a system inside the cells that generates energy for the cells to do their work. Insert fat in one side of the Krebs cycle and what comes out the other side is a rechargeable battery called ATP - provides all the Electrons for your enzymes for your cell and discharges into a discharged rechargeable battery called ADP. 38 molecules out the other side - lots of energy. If oxygen not available, for every unit of fat you only get 2 molecules of ATP Each of us contain a trillion bugs or so and they are asleep as long as oxygen is available. When they wake up with the drop of oxygen they want to eat. They put out digestive enzymes to get the nutrients out of your cells. Damaging the cells around them, but also go to distant places and damage cells there as well. Strep throat - bacteria having lunch there. Enzymes strep puts out can get in blood stream and scar heart. Damage knees, rheum arthritis. Same goes on through the body, so low voltage in gall bladder, and bugs there put out toxins that commonly damage the brain, so brain not working well could be because of low voltage in gall bladder. I don't believe there is such a thing as autoimmune disease, just bugs having lunch and these enzymes going somewhere doing damage.. When we can't culture anything we say, oh, the body is attacking itself. Well, the body is not attacking itself, these enzymes that the bugs are putting out are attacking it. And one of the reasons I can say that is I have taken a fair number of people with Lupus with a high blood test called ANA, you go in, raise the voltage kill the bugs and the ANA goes back to normal and the people get well. Simply low voltage, bugs having lunch, enzymes going places and causing grief. So then if voltage gets low enough, one of the bugs that grow are fungal bugs that you can see in the blood with a darkfield microscope. And then those fungal forms begin to take over the cell and now you have a tumour, and that occurs at plus thirty mV Chronic disease always defined by low voltage. More questions: How do we measure the voltage? Acupuncture system just the fascial planes in the body to every organ and from that capsule a fibre goes down to every group of cells, so what we know as the fascia is the same as acupuncture system so you can tap into that and measure what is going on with the internal organs. Also a sheath around every nerve, a second wiring system that carries voltage wherever we go. Two wires, so if one is cut or damaged failsafe system, perineural and acupuncture, so if one fails the other is still working. Pretty smart guy that designed this system we call the human body, right? We use primarily the acupuncture system. One of the things that's important that all our muscles both electron generators and storage. Piezo emits electrons, muscles do the same thing. Rechargeable, exercise so great for us, not only moves the lymphatics but creates and stores the voltage. Main Power cable runs up the back and down the front carrying voltage to power terminals. Switching Terminals on Main Power Cables for each part of the body. If you have illness one of those areas then you can find that terminal has low voltage, you want to put electrons in there and that's the port you can do it. Why did my voltage get low in the first place. If I don't remember to put the dome light off the car battery is low. We need to see what causes the problem. One thing different about patients is some have normal total body voltage and others don't. If I don't figure out why it dropped in the first place it's going to be a problem again even if we fix it. All circuits may be normal except this one, and I have … WE heal primarily by making new cells. New cells require minus fifty minivolts
Re: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!!
I'm so glad for Molly - and you of course carol. x dee On 5 Apr 2010, at 05:10, carolG wrote: Thanks to all who have followed along the almost death of my dog, Molly who was diagnosed in March 2009 with Lupus. Today she is doing GREAT and I am calling it recovered as she appears back to normal except her eating has gone from 50% okay eater to a 300% PIG! She eats tremendous quantities. Just wanted to let you know she is RESURRECTED from death and is ALIVE, ALIVE, ALIVEevery sign of being back to normal other than running around like a manic on our acre. She is however back to scouting out rabbits, running after then again, but in moderation and watching the mules next door. For this she has to walk a distance and is able to do it. Her hair is growing back greatly, her itch is pretty much gone and most times gone Just wanted to thank all for their support. I'm believing I'll be writing an ebook. Carol Giambri carolg -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!!
YEA! I've been following this thread and I'm so happy your Molly is better. Having lost a favorite pet in my childhood - I can appreciate those that take great care in their pet's lives doing what's best for them! Hug her everyday :-) Lisa _ From: carolG [mailto:cgiam...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!! Thanks to all who have followed along the almost death of my dog, Molly who was diagnosed in March 2009 with Lupus. Today she is doing GREAT and I am calling it recovered as she appears back to normal except her eating has gone from 50% okay eater to a 300% PIG! She eats tremendous quantities. Just wanted to let you know she is RESURRECTED from death and is ALIVE, ALIVE, ALIVEevery sign of being back to normal other than running around like a manic on our acre. She is however back to scouting out rabbits, running after then again, but in moderation and watching the mules next door. For this she has to walk a distance and is able to do it. Her hair is growing back greatly, her itch is pretty much gone and most times gone Just wanted to thank all for their support. I'm believing I'll be writing an ebook. Carol Giambri carolg _
Re: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!!
How wonderful for you. Please let me know when the ebook is finished. PT - Original Message - From: carolG To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!! Thanks to all who have followed along the almost death of my dog, Molly who was diagnosed in March 2009 with Lupus. Today she is doing GREAT and I am calling it recovered as she appears back to normal except her eating has gone from 50% okay eater to a 300% PIG! She eats tremendous quantities. Just wanted to let you know she is RESURRECTED from death and is ALIVE, ALIVE, ALIVEevery sign of being back to normal other than running around like a manic on our acre. She is however back to scouting out rabbits, running after then again, but in moderation and watching the mules next door. For this she has to walk a distance and is able to do it. Her hair is growing back greatly, her itch is pretty much gone and most times gone Just wanted to thank all for their support. I'm believing I'll be writing an ebook. Carol Giambri carolg --
Re: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!!
I must have missed the beginning of this saga -- what caused her recovery? From: carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 12:10:29 AM Subject: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!! Thanks to all who have followed along the almost death of my dog, Molly who was diagnosed in March 2009 with Lupus. Today she is doing GREAT and I am calling it recovered as she appears back to normal except her eating has gone from 50% okay eater to a 300% PIG! She eats tremendous quantities. Just wanted to let you know she is RESURRECTED from death and is ALIVE, ALIVE, ALIVEevery sign of being back to normal other than running around like a manic on our acre. She is however back to scouting out rabbits, running after then again, but in moderation and watching the mules next door. For this she has to walk a distance and is able to do it. Her hair is growing back greatly, her itch is pretty much gone and most times gone Just wanted to thank all for their support. I'm believing I'll be writing an ebook. Carol Giambri carolg
Re: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!!
That's wonderful! Please tell us how you did it.. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:08 AM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote: How wonderful for you. Please let me know when the ebook is finished. PT - Original Message - *From:* carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, April 05, 2010 12:10 AM *Subject:* CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!! Thanks to all who have followed along the almost death of my dog, Molly who was diagnosed in March 2009 with Lupus. Today she is doing GREAT and I am calling it recovered as she appears back to normal except her eating has gone from 50% okay eater to a 300% PIG! She eats tremendous quantities. Just wanted to let you know she is RESURRECTED from death and is ALIVE, ALIVE, ALIVEevery sign of being back to normal other than running around like a manic on our acre. She is however back to scouting out rabbits, running after then again, but in moderation and watching the mules next door. For this she has to walk a distance and is able to do it. Her hair is growing back greatly, her itch is pretty much gone and most times gone Just wanted to thank all for their support. I'm believing I'll be writing an ebook. Carol Giambri carolg -- ** -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!!
carol that is GREAT! How did you achieve this... by feeding CS only? - Original Message - From: carolG To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:10 PM Subject: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!! Thanks to all who have followed along the almost death of my dog, Molly who was diagnosed in March 2009 with Lupus. Today she is doing GREAT and I am calling it recovered as she appears back to normal except her eating has gone from 50% okay eater to a 300% PIG! She eats tremendous quantities. Just wanted to let you know she is RESURRECTED from death and is ALIVE, ALIVE, ALIVEevery sign of being back to normal other than running around like a manic on our acre. She is however back to scouting out rabbits, running after then again, but in moderation and watching the mules next door. For this she has to walk a distance and is able to do it. Her hair is growing back greatly, her itch is pretty much gone and most times gone Just wanted to thank all for their support. I'm believing I'll be writing an ebook. Carol Giambri carolg --
Re: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!!
Carol, I'm so happy for you and Molly. Please do write your book. It will help many, many beloved pets, and give owners great hope. If you need any help with it, just let me know. Samala, auntie Renee ---Original Message--- Thanks to all who have followed along the almost death of my dog, Molly who was diagnosed in March 2009 with Lupus. Today she is doing GREAT and I am calling it recovered as she appears back to normal except her eating has gone from 50% okay eater to a 300% PIG! She eats tremendous quantities.
CSLupus dog Carol G
Onset (poor dog) just after a vaccine? 22 year old friend got her lupus (even though warned) week of vaccine at college. Your dogs loss of hair and allergy symptoms all could be direct result of vaccine. I got my MS immediately after a vaccine. Auto immune disease rears up when poisons (vaccine) are pushed into a system. Carol, had your dog been well-- vaccinated --then ill? To those who need information on vaccines, forms for school to opt out vaclib.org. My vaccine damage has been helped with CS. My animals all get CS. Some of my animals have been vaccinated before i got them. I also use homeopathic Thuja to counter vaccine damage.
Re: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!!
Auntie Renee, I am going to do that ebook for sure. Thanks--yes it helps others great. Of course not medical person, but my own story before my eyes is amazing so that's to me proof and recovery besides actual biopsy. I think I am good on this area of help, but if you have ideas for marketing I could be interested. It's going to tie into humans, business and pet worlds. May end up as 3 different books, but Molly story woven throughout. I've been testing my market for her and telling all I am in contact with and all are dog lovers and excited. Maybe her disease will not only help Lupus pets and owners but other disease owners as well. Today looked at website saying no cure for her disease. So we all here beat the odds by not quitting prematurely!! She's back to normal. Truly a movie! Hugs, Carol, the mom to Molly and niece to Renee! From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 10:51:44 AM Subject: Re: CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!! Carol, I'm so happy for you and Molly. Please do write your book. It will help many, many beloved pets, and give owners great hope. If you need any help with it, just let me know. Samala, auntie Renee ---Original Message--- Thanks to all who have followed along the almost death of my dog, Molly who was diagnosed in March 2009 with Lupus. Today she is doing GREAT and I am calling it recovered as she appears back to normal except her eating has gone from 50% okay eater to a 300% PIG! She eats tremendous quantities.
Re: CSLupus dog Carol G
Vicki, I can say if dog has ever been vaccinated before I adopted her at I can't say, but having her 9+ years she has not had any vaccinations. I did use some CS for a while on her too. She was diagnosed before CS was ever known by me, but used it for short season after diagnosis; she was diagnosed in Sept. and did have biopsy done. Yes, she was so poisoned and very dead when doing the drugs for a short while. The drugs are history---didn't work for her but just killed her 99% of the way. But, now she's ALIVE and back to herself. I see her actions back to normal, not doing any more tests on her, and that's enough proof for me and my neighbor. Thanks for asking. CarolG From: vicki hood mutt...@isp.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 11:51:40 AM Subject: CSLupus dog Carol G Onset (poor dog) just after a vaccine? 22 year old friend got her lupus (even though warned) week of vaccine at college. Your dogs loss of hair and allergy symptoms all could be direct result of vaccine. I got my MS immediately after a vaccine. Auto immune disease rears up when poisons (vaccine) are pushed into a system. Carol, had your dog been well-- vaccinated --then ill? To those
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I'm so glad to hear that! I can't wait for your e-book (no pressure)LOL. I am an animal lover and would love to learn what you know. Tina --- On Mon, 4/5/10, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote: From: carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSLupus dog Carol G To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:08 AM Vicki, I can say if dog has ever been vaccinated before I adopted her at I can't say, but having her 9+ years she has not had any vaccinations. I did use some CS for a while on her too. She was diagnosed before CS was ever known by me, but used it for short season after diagnosis; she was diagnosed in Sept. and did have biopsy done. Yes, she was so poisoned and very dead when doing the drugs for a short while. The drugs are history---didn't work for her but just killed her 99% of the way. But, now she's ALIVE and back to herself. I see her actions back to normal, not doing any more tests on her, and that's enough proof for me and my neighbor. Thanks for asking. CarolG From: vicki hood mutt...@isp.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 11:51:40 AM Subject: CSLupus dog Carol G Onset (poor dog) just after a vaccine? 22 year old friend got her lupus (even though warned) week of vaccine at college. Your dogs loss of hair and allergy symptoms all could be direct result of vaccine. I got my MS immediately after a vaccine. Auto immune disease rears up when poisons (vaccine) are pushed into a system. Carol, had your dog been well-- vaccinated --then ill? To those
CSLUPUS dog update: 4/410--RETURN TO NORMAL SELF.!!
Thanks to all who have followed along the almost death of my dog, Molly who was diagnosed in March 2009 with Lupus. Today she is doing GREAT and I am calling it recovered as she appears back to normal except her eating has gone from 50% okay eater to a 300% PIG! She eats tremendous quantities. Just wanted to let you know she is RESURRECTED from death and is ALIVE, ALIVE, ALIVEevery sign of being back to normal other than running around like a manic on our acre. She is however back to scouting out rabbits, running after then again, but in moderation and watching the mules next door. For this she has to walk a distance and is able to do it. Her hair is growing back greatly, her itch is pretty much gone and most times gone Just wanted to thank all for their support. I'm believing I'll be writing an ebook. Carol Giambri carolg
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Dear Dave, Lupus is scary. The CMO is well worth trying. Just do it. Also, all the other obvious (and not so obvious) things: Pure water, pure foods. Distilled water. Fresh, organic, raw when possible. Eliminate toxins from diet and environment: e.g., ALL artificial sweeteners and most anything they put in processed foods; eliminate mold from the house, install an air cleaner. Dental revision: If she has any dental metalwork in her mouth she has probable toxicity and electrolytic currents flowing. If she has had any teeth extracted over the years where the dentist left the ligament in the socket they *ARE* infected and slowly poisoning her. Same goes for any 3rd molars (wisdom teeth) that never came in. Most leave behind a residue at the nucleation site that is usually infected and may also directly cause an immune response. Get together with Dr. Huggins. He's the expert. Look into aggressive wholistic approaches like Gerson Therapy. At this stage only a complete change in lifestyle and an aggressive approach to helping her body heal itself will stand a chance of helping. Prayer, if they're so inclined, meditation, EFT and any other means of relieving stress, anxiety, and anger, all may help. I wish your friend and his wife well. Mike D. - Original Message - From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: CSLupus BrooksMarshalTerry, or anyone else with some input. I have a good friend who's wife has lupus and was diagnosed six years ago and told she had probably eight years to live. There are a number of autoimmune diseases that have presented and I was wondering since it's autoimmune if CMO might have the correct effect as it had on my RA. Or if anyone has another modality to explore. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 6:30 AM [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
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I offer blessings for her and her family then, that whatever time she has will be cherished truly madly deeply. D - Original Message - From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: CSLupus She has ( I think)four other related illnesses and her husband says she is winding down rapidly. Dave Denise Rollheiser wrote: Interesting about how long people with lupus have to live. and yes, there are various types of lupus, some more virulent than others...BUT my Mom was diagnosed with lupus about 50 years agoshe's still going strong. I have a girlfriend who was diagnosed, in her early 20s...she has been married for at least 10 years now, had two children and is going strong. So while it can be terminal - it isn't always. I would love to hear testimonies on how CS has treated lupusmy Mom's lupus presents in the form of lumps throughout various areas of her body...she has had the lumps removed from - her upper arm, her thigh, cheek, and lower lip. Janice's lupus manifests itself internally but from last I heard, she tires easily - but then - who wouldn't be running after two kids under 6 ...! Denise - Original Message - From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: CSLupus BrooksMarshalTerry, or anyone else with some input. I have a good friend who's wife has lupus and was diagnosed six years ago and told she had probably eight years to live. There are a number of autoimmune diseases that have presented and I was wondering since it's autoimmune if CMO might have the correct effect as it had on my RA. Or if anyone has another modality to explore. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 6:30 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/782 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 2:10 AM
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BrooksMarshalTerry, or anyone else with some input. I have a good friend who's wife has lupus and was diagnosed six years ago and told she had probably eight years to live. There are a number of autoimmune diseases that have presented and I was wondering since it's autoimmune if CMO might have the correct effect as it had on my RA. Or if anyone has another modality to explore. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Interesting about how long people with lupus have to live. and yes, there are various types of lupus, some more virulent than others...BUT my Mom was diagnosed with lupus about 50 years agoshe's still going strong. I have a girlfriend who was diagnosed, in her early 20s...she has been married for at least 10 years now, had two children and is going strong. So while it can be terminal - it isn't always. I would love to hear testimonies on how CS has treated lupusmy Mom's lupus presents in the form of lumps throughout various areas of her body...she has had the lumps removed from - her upper arm, her thigh, cheek, and lower lip. Janice's lupus manifests itself internally but from last I heard, she tires easily - but then - who wouldn't be running after two kids under 6 ...! Denise - Original Message - From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: CSLupus BrooksMarshalTerry, or anyone else with some input. I have a good friend who's wife has lupus and was diagnosed six years ago and told she had probably eight years to live. There are a number of autoimmune diseases that have presented and I was wondering since it's autoimmune if CMO might have the correct effect as it had on my RA. Or if anyone has another modality to explore. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 6:30 AM
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She has ( I think)four other related illnesses and her husband says she is winding down rapidly. Dave Denise Rollheiser wrote: Interesting about how long people with lupus have to live. and yes, there are various types of lupus, some more virulent than others...BUT my Mom was diagnosed with lupus about 50 years agoshe's still going strong. I have a girlfriend who was diagnosed, in her early 20s...she has been married for at least 10 years now, had two children and is going strong. So while it can be terminal - it isn't always. I would love to hear testimonies on how CS has treated lupusmy Mom's lupus presents in the form of lumps throughout various areas of her body...she has had the lumps removed from - her upper arm, her thigh, cheek, and lower lip. Janice's lupus manifests itself internally but from last I heard, she tires easily - but then - who wouldn't be running after two kids under 6 ...! Denise - Original Message - From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: CSLupus BrooksMarshalTerry, or anyone else with some input. I have a good friend who's wife has lupus and was diagnosed six years ago and told she had probably eight years to live. There are a number of autoimmune diseases that have presented and I was wondering since it's autoimmune if CMO might have the correct effect as it had on my RA. Or if anyone has another modality to explore. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 6:30 AM
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An interesting observation. I don't know if she had candida as well as lupus. The woman certainly did have lupus before taking the CS and peau d'arco, but not afterwards, as verified by standard laboratory tests. There is no way to know if she had candida because she only frequents conventional doctors, being on disability and not being able to afford alternative medical treatment, supplements, etc., out of pocket. There were other posts on this list reporting two other cases of lupus which had responded to CS alone, in ten months, rather than the three in the case I reported, so perhaps your thesis is correct, and the peau d'arco made the difference.
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I am wondering in part if the woman was healed of her illness because of the pau d arco usage in addition to the cs. severe candida infections can mimic or aggravate lupus and pau de arco is a very effective systemic antifungal. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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You 'can' get argyria that way, but you have to really work at it for quite a while. Ode At 02:30 AM 1/3/2006 -0500, you wrote: No, she didn't get argyria. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.10 - Release Date: 1/2/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.11 - Release Date: 1/2/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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thank you Ed On Jan 1, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Nancy DeLise wrote: I do not know of a web site, but I can tell you of two friends who HAD lupus. They both drank 16 - 20 oz. of 10 ppm CS with 8-10 drops of 3% H2o2 added. The H2o2 makes it a bit bitter, you she might add about 3-4 oz. of Gatorade or non citrus juice. Take the CS along with her, and drink a little bit all day long through out the day. ONE WORD OF CAUTION. Tell your friend not to take the 16 oz. right from the beginning. She should begin slowly say 2 oz. two times a day for two days, then 2 oz. three times a day for two days, and continue this pattern until she is drinking a total of 16 oz. throughout the day. By starting slowly like this, hopeful she will avoid a Herxheimer. That is the only problem my two friends encountered. Back when they did this, I was not aware of what a Herx could be like, and they did suffer for a few days. I would say in 8-10 months they will be pretty good, however, I would definitely stay with the CS after she is better. Nancy - Original Message - From: Ed Berwick eberw...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: CSlupus? I'm new. My neighbor has lupus Does anyone have web sites, posts, info on lupus? Ed Berwick California -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 12/30/2005
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I had a client who had lupus. She drank a quart a day of CS made with three nine volt batteries in drinking water. She also took an herb called peau d'arco, an amount she muscle tested for appropriateness daily. After three months when she returned to her doctor, laboratory tests showed she did not have lupus, and she has not had it since (ten years later). The doctor apologized for the misdiagnosis thinking that since lupus is a fatal disease, she must have never had it; she must have simply been misdiagnosed! Jill
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:05:19 EST, grace1...@aol.com wrote in 2c2.15c20f6.30eb2...@aol.com: I had a client who had lupus. She drank a quart a day of CS made with three nine volt batteries in drinking water. She also took an herb called peau d'arco, an amount she muscle tested for appropriateness daily. After three months when she returned to her doctor, laboratory tests showed she did not have lupus, and she has not had it since (ten years later). The doctor apologized for the misdiagnosis thinking that since lupus is a fatal disease, she must have never had it; she must have simply been misdiagnosed! Jill Did she get argyria from making the CS in drinking water??? To ED: NEVER make CS in drinking water. It must be made with DISTILLED water. I distill my water twice, as its conductivity is still too high after the first time. Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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No, she didn't get argyria.
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I'm new. My neighbor has lupus Does anyone have web sites, posts, info on lupus? Ed Berwick California -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I do not know of a web site, but I can tell you of two friends who HAD lupus. They both drank 16 - 20 oz. of 10 ppm CS with 8-10 drops of 3% H2o2 added. The H2o2 makes it a bit bitter, you she might add about 3-4 oz. of Gatorade or non citrus juice. Take the CS along with her, and drink a little bit all day long through out the day. ONE WORD OF CAUTION. Tell your friend not to take the 16 oz. right from the beginning. She should begin slowly say 2 oz. two times a day for two days, then 2 oz. three times a day for two days, and continue this pattern until she is drinking a total of 16 oz. throughout the day. By starting slowly like this, hopeful she will avoid a Herxheimer. That is the only problem my two friends encountered. Back when they did this, I was not aware of what a Herx could be like, and they did suffer for a few days. I would say in 8-10 months they will be pretty good, however, I would definitely stay with the CS after she is better. Nancy - Original Message - From: Ed Berwick eberw...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: CSlupus? I'm new. My neighbor has lupus Does anyone have web sites, posts, info on lupus? Ed Berwick California -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 12/30/2005
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I buy my MSM in powdered form from the Horse Feed store, about 10.00 per lb.. I started off with two heaping teaspoons, one am and one pm. Now only take one per day. No pain.Had bad arthritis in both knees and neck.If no feed store near go to: http://www.msm-msm.com Have been taking 16 to 32 oz of CS/day but the MSM seems to be the only help - Original Message - From: mamapug mama...@netzero.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: CSLupus questions Hi, Listers, I`m back home after a ten-day trip to Napa, CA to help my sister. The one with MS, diabetes, COPD and possibly cancer. She`s really miserable and so the house was a major mess...there were even maggots in the dirty dishes! Yuck! What a job. Too bad I have to move there in December. Sigh... Anyway, when I asked about Lupus a while ago, I was asking if anyone knew anything about it, not how to fix it. I`d like to know what the usual symptoms are. I`m wondering if that might be my problem...I have aches in most of my joints now, and the Xrays showed arthritis in both feet and ankles, and the one knee they Xrayed, and an older one showed it in my spine. The CS has gotten rid of the Lyme, but now what do I do for all the aches?? Suggestions? Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, Listers, I`m back home after a ten-day trip to Napa, CA to help my sister. The one with MS, diabetes, COPD and possibly cancer. She`s really miserable and so the house was a major mess...there were even maggots in the dirty dishes! Yuck! What a job. Too bad I have to move there in December. Sigh... Anyway, when I asked about Lupus a while ago, I was asking if anyone knew anything about it, not how to fix it. I`d like to know what the usual symptoms are. I`m wondering if that might be my problem...I have aches in most of my joints now, and the Xrays showed arthritis in both feet and ankles, and the one knee they Xrayed, and an older one showed it in my spine. The CS has gotten rid of the Lyme, but now what do I do for all the aches?? Suggestions? Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Marshalee, I can't help on th Lupus deal but here is a fact that most people are not aware of. A major culprit or cause of many of our diseases is due to low thyroid activity. A lab test is not needed in fact they are notoriously inaccurate. The best test is done a home with clinical thermometer. Shack it done and place it by your bed. When you wake up in the morning before getting out of bed place it in your arm pit for ten minutes. The good range is from 96.2 to 97.2 deg F. If it reads 96 or less like mine (95.8) then you are in trouble. It can cause a whole rang of things, i.e. decreased heart rate and cardiac output (my heart output is 20% of normal) increased weight gain (pot belly) Pain where ribs meet the sternum memeory loss unexplained crying morning headaches and dizziness loss of hair, especially above the eyebrows constipation ringing in the ears allergies frog like voice muscular sluggishenss and weakness If you can get access to Dr. David G. Williams periodical Alternatives for November,1999, Vol 8, No.5 it covers the problem and how to over come it. Ole Bob Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Symptoms of lupus http://www.hamline.edu/~wnk/lupus/articles/symptoms_of_lupus.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have lupus related arthritis, and MSM keeps me nearly painfree. Without it I am quite incapacitated - unable to walk without severe pain. I take a heaping tablespoon of MSM daily, just dissolving it as well as it will in a bit of water, rinsing it down with more water. When I have any pain, such as after exposure to sun or damp earth, I take more. Relieves the pain within an hour usually. Lupus is more a set of symptoms, not one homogeneous condition. it effects everyone differently. Usually arthritis is present. Usually asthma is present. Many many other factors, some have, others don't. Joy I`d like to know what the usual symptoms are. but now what do I do for all the aches?? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I`m wondering if that might be my problem...I have aches in most of my joints now, and the Xrays showed arthritis in both feet and ankles, and the one knee they Xrayed, and an older one showed it in my spine. The CS has gotten rid of the Lyme, but now what do I do for all the aches?? Suggestions? Hi Marshalee ~ I'd suggest a zapper, electronic pulser, or the like. Mine removed ALL of my back pain and I have 3 bulging disks and the whole right side of my body is pulled forward, plus eliminated my carpal tunnel. As Joy has suggested, MSM works well for pain as well, tho it must be taken or applied to the area w/DMSO daily to keep the pain away. Would further suggest Pete Egoscue's book(s) Pain Free; Pain Free for Women; Pain Free at Your PC. His website is at http://www.egoscue.com and after registering (free) you can pick one of three postures that apply to you and obtain specific exercises to strengthen your musculoskeletal system, which is greatly what he advises is the cause of 'arthritic' type pains. Don't envy you moving to your sister's in December! :-( Sounds like both she and her house are a major mess... Hugs Howls, Julie Critters -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ambrotose from Mannatech, or if you have the energy to make your own, call it glyconutrient jam... ...tends to stop autoimmunes by virtue of supplying needed, possibly deficient, messenger sugars so the body can then sort out the crossed wires. Things to look up are eight essential sugars or just go to the science site: http://glycoinformation.com/ http://glycoscience.com/glycoscience/home.wm Don't laugh just yet, like I did at first; a few doctors and several nurses are seeing phenomenal improvement in autoimmunes, locally to where I live. And the scientific data appears to be bulletproof. Duncan Crow (became a distributor) Hi Marshall there was a guy on the rife list who cured himself of lupus using a rife machine..It took 7 months here's what he had to say... hello I had lupus yes had I went on treatments for 7 months and it is gone I used an EMT rife machine its fairly inexpensive .It works I will give you some freqencies that I have used 328.772 (lupus)You also have to boost the immune system since this is an auto immune disease. I work on all my symptems to what symptems dos she have? Let me know if you need any more info . God bless Marshall Dudley wrote: Lupus is considered an autoimmune disease. Although CS may be effective in preventing it by killing pathogens that may trigger the body to generate antibiotics that attack the body, there is some doubt that it would cure it once it occurs, although it may help prevent it's advance. I have wondered if CMO would help lupus, but have never heard of anyone trying it. Marshall mamapug wrote: Hi, Guys, Anyone know anything about Lupus?? I`m wondering if that is what I have... (Apparently the heart thing was caused by the medication I took, Bextra.) Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Lupus is considered an autoimmune disease. Although CS may be effective in preventing it by killing pathogens that may trigger the body to generate antibiotics that attack the body, there is some doubt that it would cure it once it occurs, although it may help prevent it's advance. I have wondered if CMO would help lupus, but have never heard of anyone trying it. Marshall mamapug wrote: Hi, Guys, Anyone know anything about Lupus?? I`m wondering if that is what I have... (Apparently the heart thing was caused by the medication I took, Bextra.) Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, Guys, Anyone know anything about Lupus?? I`m wondering if that is what I have... (Apparently the heart thing was caused by the medication I took, Bextra.) Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Marshall there was a guy on the rife list who cured himself of lupus using a rife machine..It took 7 months here's what he had to say... hello I had lupus yes had I went on treatments for 7 months and it is gone I used an EMT rife machine its fairly inexpensive .It works I will give you some freqencies that I have used 328.772 (lupus)You also have to boost the immune system since this is an auto immune disease. I work on all my symptems to what symptems dos she have? Let me know if you need any more info . God bless Marshall Dudley wrote: Lupus is considered an autoimmune disease. Although CS may be effective in preventing it by killing pathogens that may trigger the body to generate antibiotics that attack the body, there is some doubt that it would cure it once it occurs, although it may help prevent it's advance. I have wondered if CMO would help lupus, but have never heard of anyone trying it. Marshall mamapug wrote: Hi, Guys, Anyone know anything about Lupus?? I`m wondering if that is what I have... (Apparently the heart thing was caused by the medication I took, Bextra.) Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi! Can anyone advise if cs will help with Lupus, or possibly other suggestions. Many thanks! :-) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yvonne Mickey Re Lupus. Lupus is usually one of the things that goes with MS and a lady who takes Cs from me uses it for lupus. Regards Chris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, Ole Bob- a friend of mine with Lupus said that the ONLY thing that got it under control for her was CS. She uses a rather small dose for maintenance: 3 tbsp. 3 x a day of home brew. If you want me to ask her how much she used when she started I will. GT From: "Robert L. Berger" <bober...@swbell.net> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Silver-list <SILVER-LIST@ESKIMO.COM>, k...@kenashley.com, "William Ashley Jr." <w...@usa.net> Subject: CSLupus help needed!! Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:23:39 -0500 Greetings Ya'all. Does anyone have information as to the safety of using CS when a person has Lupus?? The present medicine is to stop the autoimmune system from attaching and destroying her vital organs. "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Greetings Ya'all. Does anyone have information as to the safety of using CS when a person has Lupus?? The present medicine is to stop the autoimmune system from attaching and destroying her vital organs. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I read somewhere the CS seems to be effective in stopping the progression of Lupus, but does not necessarily cause an improvement. This might be expected if lupus is being caused by a pathogen causing the body to make antigens that end up attacking the body. Kill the pathogen and you stop it from getting worse, but the antigens are still there. I wonder if CMO would help lupus once you have it in check. Might be interesting to try. Marshall Robert L. Berger wrote: Greetings Ya'all. Does anyone have information as to the safety of using CS when a person has Lupus?? The present medicine is to stop the autoimmune system from attaching and destroying her vital organs. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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For those interested, since all disease starts in the colon, perhaps this would be a good place to start. I do not sell the following products, it will be your free will of choice to use them or not. Colosan a product sold in Florida 800-284-6263. In Canada go to any drug store and ask for Magnesium Oxide. Start with a teaspoon at night before bed, for the real serious start with a tablespoon, for the first three days stay close to a bathroom after it becomes easy to control, the program takes about six 200 gram bottles, if your body does not tell you it feels and acts better, I will be one very supprised person. I like to quote Dr. John Christopher there are no incurable diseases only incurable people. Blessings Ted Marshall Dudley wrote: I read somewhere the CS seems to be effective in stopping the progression of Lupus, but does not necessarily cause an improvement. This might be expected if lupus is being caused by a pathogen causing the body to make antigens that end up attacking the body. Kill the pathogen and you stop it from getting worse, but the antigens are still there. I wonder if CMO would help lupus once you have it in check. Might be interesting to try. Marshall Robert L. Berger wrote: Greetings Ya'all. Does anyone have information as to the safety of using CS when a person has Lupus?? The present medicine is to stop the autoimmune system from attaching and destroying her vital organs. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Ted Helping Hand Consulting http://www.helpinghandconsulting.com
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in pubertal girls. J Pediatr. 1995;126:551-556. Cadogan J, Eastell R, Jones N, Barker M. Milk intake and bone mineral acquisition in adolescent girls: randomised controlled intervention trial. BMJ. 1997;315:1255-1260. Toba Y, Takada Y, Yamamura J, et al. Milk basic protein: a novel protective function of milk against osteoporosis. Bone. 2000;27:403-408. Badenhop-Stevens NE, Landoll JD, Ha E, Matkovic V. Body composition changes and dietary calcium intake of young females over seven years [abstract]. J Bone Miner Res. 2000;15(suppl 1):S534. Saxon L, Iuliano-Burns S, Naughton G, Oliver D, Bass S. Exercise and increased dietary calcium intake: a synergistic effect at the loaded sites in pre and early pubertal girls [abstract]. J Bone Miner Res. 2000;15:S230. Dawson-Hughes B, Harris SS, Finneran S. Calcium absorption on high and low calcium intakes in relation to vitamin D receptor genotype. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1995;80:3657-3661. Macdonald HM, New SA, McGuigan FE, et al. Femoral neck bone loss and dietary Ca intake in peri and early post-menopausal Scottish women: an association dependent on VDR geneotype [abstract]. J Bone Miner Res. 2000;15(suppl 1):S202. Carpenter TO, Barton CN, Park YK. Usual dietary magnesium intake in NHANES III is associated with femoral bone mass [abstract]. J Bone Miner Res. 2000;15:S292. -Original Message- From: Robert L. Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Saturday, 14 July 2001 02:24 To: Silver-list; k...@kenashley.com; William Ashley Jr. Subject: CSLupus help needed!! Greetings Ya'all. Does anyone have information as to the safety of using CS when a person has Lupus?? The present medicine is to stop the autoimmune system from attaching and destroying her vital organs. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Did anyone else get this? I was unable to open it. What is it? Trem t...@silvergen.com - Original Message - From: silver-list@eskimo.com To: t...@silvergen.com Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 6:29 PM Subject: CSLupus http://stuart.messagemates.com/index.html Hypercool Happy New Year 2000 funny programs and animations... We attached our recent animation from this site in our mail ! Check it out !
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Hello Mike,
Do I understand your wife was checked for Lupus and in fact did have it and
then she took CS to help?
Trem
t...@silvergen.com
- Original Message -
From: Mike Marr m...@clarkandclark.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:06 AM
Subject: CSRe: OT miscarriage
On Thursday, December 02, 1999 4:48 PM, Marsha Hallett wrote:
it's still hard to say goodbye.
Yup.
Diane
Date: 02-Dec-1999 14:48:40 -0800
From: Marsha Hallett
To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
Subject: Re: CSRe: OT Diane/miscarriage
I know, too...lost my second one at 3 months. It hurt both ways.
Fortunately my four others are now healthy adults.
Marsha
My wife and I lost a child at five months. This is what caused the
doctors to run the test for Lupus. At the same time, some friends
suggested CS. Since then, my wife's health has been great after changing
eating habits, lots of exercise, water CS. After the last miscarriage,
we were told she would be in harm's way if she were to get pregnant
again. Well, our daughter is two years old, my wife and daughter are
both well, and CS is used as a daily health maintenance plan for the
whole family. Sorry, but just had to share. :)
Gigat,
Mike M.
Michael Marr
Financial Analyst
Clark Clark
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Hi Monica, If you e-mail me privately I can send you some info on Lupus. Also, I have some printed testimonials from people with Lupus who were helped through nutrition. I'll send it to you if you give me your mailing address along with e-mail. Susan Epstein ch...@bestweb.net
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Jim wrote: Anyone know anything about lupus and is CS helpful? I bought this new book, Alternative Medicine, The Definitive Guide-The Burton Goldberg group. So far it is very intriguing. I bought it at Barnes and Nobles, check there, if you need , I can skim all the headings under lupus (there are verry many) and try to summarize for you. Debbie -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Anyone know anything about lupus and is CS helpful? Thanks, Jim -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
