Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2
This is quite right. The herpes zoster virus which produces chicken pox is also responsible for shingles. After chicken pox is contracted and finally abates, the virus hides itself away at the base of the nerves and then when the body is particularly weak, or stressed - it emerges as shingles. This can occur at any time throughout life, as the virus herpes is never eradicated totally. The trick is to keep the immune system at peak condition so it can keep on fighting it. dee From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:29:24 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:29:24 -0700 Nenah, I think you are incorrect when you say that people who have had chickenpox cannot get shingles. It is precisely the people who have had chickenpox who get shingles later in life due to a reactivation of the chickenpox virus. I am attaching a quote which seems to represent the current thinking about chickenpox and shingles. Dan What causes shingles? Shingles occurs when the virus that causes chickenpox starts up again in your body. After you get better from chickenpox, the virus sleeps (is dormant) in your nerve roots. In some people, it stays dormant forever. In others, the virus wakes up when disease, stress, or aging weakens the immune system. Some medicines may trigger the virus to wake up and cause a shingles rash. It is not clear why this happens. But after the virus becomes active again, it can only cause shingles, not chickenpox. You can't catch shingles from someone else who has shingles. But there is a small chance that a person with a shingles rash can spread the virus to another person who hasn't had chickenpox and who hasn't gotten the chickenpox vaccine. http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-topic-ove rview On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: You ask about CS for animals. When I replaced my dogs¹ drinking water for CS, they drank two to three times as much. They knew what they needed. I don¹t give the dogs CS all the time, only when they need it. However, since silver appears to be an essential nutrient, it¹s reasonable to assume that one should drink it on occasion even if one isn¹t ill. I knew a health professional who used it for regular drinking, cooking, everythingand he said his children were the healthiest of any kids he¹d ever seen. You mention fearing you¹ll get shingles (from the Herpes virus) as an adult because you had chicken pox when you were a child. Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don¹t get shingles. It¹s adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. For weight reduction, there¹s a good article on Mercola¹s website today about this: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/08/10/fat-not-glucose.a spx?e_cid=20120810_DNL_artNew_1 Aside from diet, IF part of your weight problem is due to adenovirus, the CS should help with that IF it can reach the viruses. Former smokers often have problems with weight gain. You may need to reset the hypothalamus. Look up ³Simeons HCG.² I encourage you to purchase a CS generator, especially as it seems you¹ll be using a lot of silver. The generator will pay for itself in no time. You may also want to get a distilled water maker. I got mine from Sears for about $130 including tax. Be well, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
I think Propolis can help this. dee From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:54:33 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:54:39 -0700 Back to dogs, My brother has a 2yr old dobie that was spade and now leaks urine. She doesn't even know when it happens. Is there anything that can help her. He lives in Florida and she drinks lots of water due to heat. He has had to make her an outside dog but would love to have her inside. She is a wonderful dog. Is there any operation that could correct what went wrong during the spading process that caused this? She is a big (110 lb) girl, a dream dog that was ruined due to the operation. Dianne Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:45:39 -0500 Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I guess this has already been covered pretty well. I am 4 days behind the postings and the way my email groups posts by subject title makes things like this happen more often. Dan On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Nenah, I think you are incorrect when you say that people who have had chickenpox cannot get shingles. It is precisely the people who have had chickenpox who get shingles later in life due to a reactivation of the chickenpox virus. I am attaching a quote which seems to represent the current thinking about chickenpox and shingles. Dan What causes shingles? Shingles occurs when the virus that causes chickenpox starts up again in your body. After you get better from chickenpox, the virus sleeps (is dormant) in your nerve roots. In some people, it stays dormant forever. In others, the virus wakes up when disease, stress, or aging weakens the immune system. Some medicines may trigger the virus to wake up and cause a shingles rash. It is not clear why this happens. But after the virus becomes active again, it can only cause shingles, not chickenpox. You can't catch shingles from someone else who has shingles. But there is a small chance that a person with a shingles rash can spread the virus to another person who hasn't had chickenpox and who hasn't gotten the chickenpox vaccine. http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-topic-overv iew On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: You ask about CS for animals. When I replaced my dogs¹ drinking water for CS, they drank two to three times as much. They knew what they needed. I don¹t give the dogs CS all the time, only when they need it. However, since silver appears to be an essential nutrient, it¹s reasonable to assume that one should drink it on occasion even if one isn¹t ill. I knew a health professional who used it for regular drinking, cooking, everythingand he said his children were the healthiest of any kids he¹d ever seen. You mention fearing you¹ll get shingles (from the Herpes virus) as an adult because you had chicken pox when you were a child. Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don¹t get shingles. It¹s adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. For weight reduction, there¹s a good article on Mercola¹s website today about this: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/08/10/fat-not-glucose.aspx ?e_cid=20120810_DNL_artNew_1 Aside from diet, IF part of your weight problem is due to adenovirus, the CS should help with that IF it can reach the viruses. Former smokers often have problems with weight gain. You may need to reset the hypothalamus. Look up ³Simeons HCG.² I encourage you to purchase a CS generator, especially as it seems you¹ll be using a lot of silver. The generator will pay for itself in no time. You may also want to get a distilled water maker. I got mine from Sears for about $130 including tax. Be well, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
Our dog that has serious incontinence is on one medication and a couple of supplements. the medication is Proin, and she gets two in the morning, one at bedtime. the supplements are Vetri-Science Bladder Strength. And Nature's Sunshine Urinary Maintenance. if I stop the med, her incontinence kicks in. same thing happens if I stop one or both of the supplements. only if I give her all three twice a day does the incontinence stop. no way would I make this dog an outside dog: she is my heart dog and she does programs for children with me. I cannot recommend this treatment highly enough. Joyce Miller PL I think Propolis can help this. dee EN the From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:54:33 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:54:39 -0700 Back to dogs, My brother has a 2yr old dobie that was spade and now leaks urine. She doesn't even know when it happens. Is there anything that can help her. He lives in Florida and she drinks lots of water due to heat. He has had to make her an outside dog but would love to have her inside. She is a wonderful dog. Is there any operation that could correct what went wrong during the spading process that caused this? She is a big (110 lb) girl, a dream dog that was ruined due to the operation. Dianne Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:45:39 -0500 Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I guess this has already been covered pretty well. I am 4 days behind the postings and the way my email groups posts by subject title makes things like this happen more often. Dan On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Nenah, I think you are incorrect when you say that people who have had chickenpox cannot get shingles. It is precisely the people who have had chickenpox who get shingles later in life due to a reactivation of the chickenpox virus. I am attaching a quote which seems to represent the current thinking about chickenpox and shingles. Dan What causes shingles? Shingles occurs when the virus that causes chickenpox starts up again in your body. After you get better from chickenpox, the virus sleeps (is dormant) in your nerve roots. In some people, it stays dormant forever. In others, the virus wakes up when disease, stress, or aging weakens the immune system. Some medicines may trigger the virus to wake up and cause a shingles rash. It is not clear why this happens. But after the virus becomes active again, it can only cause shingles, not chickenpox. You can't catch shingles from someone else who has shingles. But there is a small chance that a person with a shingles rash can spread the virus to another person who hasn't had chickenpox and who hasn't gotten the chickenpox vaccine. http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-topic-overview On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: You ask about CS for animals. When I replaced my dogs’ drinking water for CS, they drank two to three times as much. They knew what they needed. I don’t give the dogs CS all the time, only when they need it. However, since silver appears to be an essential nutrient, it’s reasonable to assume that one should drink it on occasion even if one isn’t ill. I knew a health professional who used it for regular drinking, cooking, everything—and he said his children were the healthiest of any kids he’d ever seen. You mention fearing you’ll get shingles (from the Herpes virus) as an adult because you had chicken pox when you were a child. Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don’t get shingles. It’s adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. For weight reduction, there’s a good article on Mercola’s website today about this: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/08/10/fat-not-glucose.aspx?e_cid=20120810_DNL_artNew_1 Aside from diet, IF part of your weight problem is due to adenovirus, the CS should help with that IF it can reach the viruses. Former smokers often have problems with weight gain. You may need to reset the hypothalamus. Look up “Simeons HCG.” I encourage you to purchase a CS generator, especially as it seems you’ll be using a lot of silver. The generator will pay for itself in no time. You may also want to get a distilled water maker. I got mine from Sears for about $130 including tax. Be well, Nenah
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2
I am not convinced that it cannot be eradicated completely. They say the same thing about the herpes virus, same hiding place, yet I was able to eradicate mine which I had had for almost 60 years with colloidal silver. The first step in being able to possibly eradicate it is believing that it can be. Marshall On 8/15/2012 8:28 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: This is quite right. The herpes zoster virus which produces chicken pox is also responsible for shingles. After chicken pox is contracted and finally abates, the virus hides itself away at the base of the nerves and then when the body is particularly weak, or stressed - it emerges as shingles. This can occur at any time throughout life, as the virus herpes is never eradicated totally. The trick is to keep the immune system at peak condition so it can keep on fighting it. dee From: Dan Navebhangcha...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:29:24 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:29:24 -0700 Nenah, I think you are incorrect when you say that people who have had chickenpox cannot get shingles. It is precisely the people who have had chickenpox who get shingles later in life due to a reactivation of the chickenpox virus. I am attaching a quote which seems to represent the current thinking about chickenpox and shingles. Dan What causes shingles? Shingles occurs when the virus that causes chickenpox starts up again in your body. After you get better from chickenpox, the virus sleeps (is dormant) in your nerve roots. In some people, it stays dormant forever. In others, the virus wakes up when disease, stress, or aging weakens the immune system. Some medicines may trigger the virus to wake up and cause a shingles rash. It is not clear why this happens. But after the virus becomes active again, it can only cause shingles, not chickenpox. You can't catch shingles from someone else who has shingles. But there is a small chance that a person with a shingles rash can spread the virus to another person who hasn't had chickenpox and who hasn't gotten the chickenpox vaccine. http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-topic-ove rview On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Nenah Sylvernenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: You ask about CS for animals. When I replaced my dogs¹ drinking water for CS, they drank two to three times as much. They knew what they needed. I don¹t give the dogs CS all the time, only when they need it. However, since silver appears to be an essential nutrient, it¹s reasonable to assume that one should drink it on occasion even if one isn¹t ill. I knew a health professional who used it for regular drinking, cooking, everything‹and he said his children were the healthiest of any kids he¹d ever seen. You mention fearing you¹ll get shingles (from the Herpes virus) as an adult because you had chicken pox when you were a child. Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don¹t get shingles. It¹s adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. For weight reduction, there¹s a good article on Mercola¹s website today about this: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/08/10/fat-not-glucose.a spx?e_cid=20120810_DNL_artNew_1 Aside from diet, IF part of your weight problem is due to adenovirus, the CS should help with that IF it can reach the viruses. Former smokers often have problems with weight gain. You may need to reset the hypothalamus. Look up ³Simeons HCG.² I encourage you to purchase a CS generator, especially as it seems you¹ll be using a lot of silver. The generator will pay for itself in no time. You may also want to get a distilled water maker. I got mine from Sears for about $130 including tax. Be well, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2437/5201 - Release Date: 08/14/12
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
Dear Dianne, FYI, the word is spay, the past tense is spayed. (Sorry, I`m like Hermione, an insufferable know-it-all, and that is one of my biggest linguistic bugaboos!) Anyway, all my Pugs were spayed or neutered, and none ever had any incontinence problems, so I can`t fathom what might have happened with the Dobie, especially since the canine female organs are not close to the bladder, as they are in humans. My suggestion: when she is indoors, put a doggie diaper on her. Good luck! Marshalee Back to dogs, My brother has a 2yr old dobie that was spade and now leaks urine. She doesn't even know when it happens. Is there anything that can help her. He lives in Florida and she drinks lots of water due to heat. He has had to make her an outside dog but would love to have her inside. She is a wonderful dog. Is there any operation that could correct what went wrong during the spading process that caused this? She is a big (110 lb) girl, a dream dog that was ruined due to the operation. Dianne
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2
I have done the CS thing for years but still the virus rears its ugly head. dee From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:01:02 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:01:13 -0700 I am not convinced that it cannot be eradicated completely. They say the same thing about the herpes virus, same hiding place, yet I was able to eradicate mine which I had had for almost 60 years with colloidal silver. The first step in being able to possibly eradicate it is believing that it can be. Marshall On 8/15/2012 8:28 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: This is quite right. The herpes zoster virus which produces chicken pox is also responsible for shingles. After chicken pox is contracted and finally abates, the virus hides itself away at the base of the nerves and then when the body is particularly weak, or stressed - it emerges as shingles. This can occur at any time throughout life, as the virus herpes is never eradicated totally. The trick is to keep the immune system at peak condition so it can keep on fighting it. dee From: Dan Navebhangcha...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:29:24 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:29:24 -0700 Nenah, I think you are incorrect when you say that people who have had chickenpox cannot get shingles. It is precisely the people who have had chickenpox who get shingles later in life due to a reactivation of the chickenpox virus. I am attaching a quote which seems to represent the current thinking about chickenpox and shingles. Dan What causes shingles? Shingles occurs when the virus that causes chickenpox starts up again in your body. After you get better from chickenpox, the virus sleeps (is dormant) in your nerve roots. In some people, it stays dormant forever. In others, the virus wakes up when disease, stress, or aging weakens the immune system. Some medicines may trigger the virus to wake up and cause a shingles rash. It is not clear why this happens. But after the virus becomes active again, it can only cause shingles, not chickenpox. You can't catch shingles from someone else who has shingles. But there is a small chance that a person with a shingles rash can spread the virus to another person who hasn't had chickenpox and who hasn't gotten the chickenpox vaccine. http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-topic-o ve rview On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Nenah Sylvernenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: You ask about CS for animals. When I replaced my dogs¹ drinking water for CS, they drank two to three times as much. They knew what they needed. I don¹t give the dogs CS all the time, only when they need it. However, since silver appears to be an essential nutrient, it¹s reasonable to assume that one should drink it on occasion even if one isn¹t ill. I knew a health professional who used it for regular drinking, cooking, everything‹and he said his children were the healthiest of any kids he¹d ever seen. You mention fearing you¹ll get shingles (from the Herpes virus) as an adult because you had chicken pox when you were a child. Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don¹t get shingles. It¹s adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. For weight reduction, there¹s a good article on Mercola¹s website today about this: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/08/10/fat-not-glucose .a spx?e_cid=20120810_DNL_artNew_1 Aside from diet, IF part of your weight problem is due to adenovirus, the CS should help with that IF it can reach the viruses. Former smokers often have problems with weight gain. You may need to reset the hypothalamus. Look up ³Simeons HCG.² I encourage you to purchase a CS generator, especially as it seems you¹ll be using a lot of silver. The generator will pay for itself in no time. You may also want to get a distilled water maker. I got mine from Sears for about $130 including tax. Be well, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2
Considering I have done other things, such as ozonated water, pulsing, zapping and MMS, it could have been eradicated by one of those, or even a combination of them. Marshall On 8/15/2012 12:14 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I have done the CS thing for years but still the virus rears its ugly head. dee From: Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:01:02 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:01:13 -0700 I am not convinced that it cannot be eradicated completely. They say the same thing about the herpes virus, same hiding place, yet I was able to eradicate mine which I had had for almost 60 years with colloidal silver. The first step in being able to possibly eradicate it is believing that it can be. Marshall On 8/15/2012 8:28 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: This is quite right. The herpes zoster virus which produces chicken pox is also responsible for shingles. After chicken pox is contracted and finally abates, the virus hides itself away at the base of the nerves and then when the body is particularly weak, or stressed - it emerges as shingles. This can occur at any time throughout life, as the virus herpes is never eradicated totally. The trick is to keep the immune system at peak condition so it can keep on fighting it. dee From: Dan Navebhangcha...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:29:24 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:29:24 -0700 Nenah, I think you are incorrect when you say that people who have had chickenpox cannot get shingles. It is precisely the people who have had chickenpox who get shingles later in life due to a reactivation of the chickenpox virus. I am attaching a quote which seems to represent the current thinking about chickenpox and shingles. Dan What causes shingles? Shingles occurs when the virus that causes chickenpox starts up again in your body. After you get better from chickenpox, the virus sleeps (is dormant) in your nerve roots. In some people, it stays dormant forever. In others, the virus wakes up when disease, stress, or aging weakens the immune system. Some medicines may trigger the virus to wake up and cause a shingles rash. It is not clear why this happens. But after the virus becomes active again, it can only cause shingles, not chickenpox. You can't catch shingles from someone else who has shingles. But there is a small chance that a person with a shingles rash can spread the virus to another person who hasn't had chickenpox and who hasn't gotten the chickenpox vaccine. http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-topic-o ve rview On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Nenah Sylvernenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: You ask about CS for animals. When I replaced my dogs¹ drinking water for CS, they drank two to three times as much. They knew what they needed. I don¹t give the dogs CS all the time, only when they need it. However, since silver appears to be an essential nutrient, it¹s reasonable to assume that one should drink it on occasion even if one isn¹t ill. I knew a health professional who used it for regular drinking, cooking, everything‹and he said his children were the healthiest of any kids he¹d ever seen. You mention fearing you¹ll get shingles (from the Herpes virus) as an adult because you had chicken pox when you were a child. Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don¹t get shingles. It¹s adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. For weight reduction, there¹s a good article on Mercola¹s website today about this: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/08/10/fat-not-glucose .a spx?e_cid=20120810_DNL_artNew_1 Aside from diet, IF part of your weight problem is due to adenovirus, the CS should help with that IF it can reach the viruses. Former smokers often have problems with weight gain. You may need to reset the hypothalamus. Look up ³Simeons HCG.² I encourage you to purchase a CS generator, especially as it seems you¹ll be using a lot of silver. The generator will pay for itself in no time. You may also want to get a distilled water maker. I got mine from Sears for about $130 including tax. Be well, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.comwrote: Anyway, all my Pugs were spayed or neutered, and none ever had any incontinence problems, so I can`t fathom what might have happened with the Dobie, especially since the canine female organs are not close to the bladder, as they are in humans. Marsha, You are very fortunate. I too have had many spayed females who did not have incontinence. However, it is not unusual, and I currently have a spayed female who is incontinent. As this article states, it is not really spay incontinence: it is hormone responsive incontinence. It doesn't happen in all spayed bitches, but it does happen frequently. Please read the article: http://www.crozetgazette.com/2012/01/gazette-vet-spay-incontinence/ Do keep in mind that not all spayed females have this problem, and if yours do not, be grateful. I have two spayed bitches. One has spay incontinence, and the saddest part for me is that she is the cleanest dog I have ever had. She doesn't even realize this is happening. Medications really help a lot, but they don't stop it entirely. I use Proin which is my vet's med of choice. If she had never been spayed, she most likely would not have this problem. But there are other problems if they are not spayed. I had one female who was not spayed until she was about six years old. Like most of the females I have had, she never had incontinence and she lived to be 15. Since all my dogs are the same breed, my incontinent dog is not a breed thing. Joyce Miller -- **Annual Animal Blessing and Faire at CSL Dallas, 4801 Spring Valley, just west of the tollway between Inwood and Spring Valley at International Place, Saturday, September 29. 10 AM - 3 PM. Bring your pet to be blessed and learn about many organizations and practitioners that help us with our pets at the Fair . Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt.* ***http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ Donate often! You'll be helping Airedales nationwide! http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
Re: CSNew to List; Is: Chicken Pox/Shingles - Homeopathic Herpes Zoster Remedy
It is the name of one of the remedies, probably called a nosode, classical homeopaths would have made it from the actual cells, I guess. Mine was made with frequency by the Interro program on my homeopath's computer. *Nosode is derived from NOSO (Gr.) that signifies the 'disease products'. It may also be compared with NOXA (L.), which means 'noxious or damage'. 'Nosodotherapy' means the therapeutic use of organic reactional wastes or some Ãetiological factors which are the source of the 'damage' to the disease. The term 'nosode' has no legal existence in France Germany and has been replaced by the term 'biotherapy'. Dr. Pierre Schmidt explained nosodes as '/an isopathic remedy/'. According to him, If it is applied after having been tested on a healthy man, it becomes a nosode. Actually, many of the nosodes do not possess this quality. Homeopath Renà Allendy defined nosodes: /The nosode is characterized by a pathological substance used as the medicine prepared in advance and according to the homeopathic method of dilution/. Fortier Bernoville characterized a nosode as /Specificity and Immunity/. /Nosodes are some homeopathic preparations obtained from microbe cultures, from viruses, pathological secretions and excretions/ http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-repertory/a-short-study-on-julian%E2%80%99s-repertory-of-nosodes/ Nosodes are homeopathic remedies that are made from the specific products of a particular disease. This can be tissue containing the actual disease agents or tissue affected by those agents. Sometimes nosodes are made from vaccines containing the organisms. The nosodes are prepared in a diluted and potentized form just like all other homeopathic medicine. A nosode is simply a homeopathic remedy that is made from a disease product. Nosodes are not in any way infections, and can be used in the same way as vaccines, that is, to prevent viral infection. Like vaccines, nosodes sensitize the body to a particular virus, so the immune system can react quickly and effectively to natural exposure. Nosodes are at least as effective as vaccines, and in some cases have been shown to be significantly more effective than vaccines in preventing infection. http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/nosodes.htm Here is a site where they are selling the remedy: http://www.elixirs.com/products.cfm?productcode=S3 Herpes Zoster 30C for relief of symptoms from the virus herpes zoster. This form of herpes is best known as shingles. Herpes Zoster can be used as an adjunct to your health plan to clear vesicles. Herpes Zoster 30C may be safely used whether nerve pain is from current shingles or postherpetic neuralgia. and here http://www.phpltd.com/products/homeo_nosodes.aspx (Herpes Zoster) 18X, 30X, 60X, 200X http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1728/ http://educate-yourself.org/nch/Freqchart1.shtml Frequency chart for various ailments. 7)/Zoster/ (shingles): 574, 1557 *Varicella* (the herpes virus that causes chickenpox during childhood and shingles [herpes zoster] in adulthood): 345, 668, 716, 738 On 14/08/2012 11:29 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: Rowena... what is the Herpes zoster remedy? Lola H. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: I had chickenpox as a girl. 30 years later I had shingles in my eyebrow near the top of the nose. I guessed what it was and took some homeopathic Rhus Tox while I waited to get to my homeopath, who gave me Herpes zoster remedy. It was all over in a week or two, which was great because it can be nasty so near the eye. It recurred slightly once a year for a few years, when a little soft scab would appear; if I scratched it away it would bleed. Then it didn't happen any more. All the best Rowena On 11/08/2012 2:45 AM, Joyce Miller wrote: Even though many who have had chicken pox do not get shingles, that is not because of having had chicken pox. I think of Shingles as adult chicken pox, but those who get it, would not get it if they had not had chicken pox
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2
I totally agree on the importance of belief being critical to achieving or doing something. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I am not convinced that it cannot be eradicated completely. They say the same thing about the herpes virus, same hiding place, yet I was able to eradicate mine which I had had for almost 60 years with colloidal silver. The first step in being able to possibly eradicate it is believing that it can be. Marshall -- **Annual Animal Blessing and Faire at CSL Dallas, 4801 Spring Valley, just west of the tollway between Inwood and Spring Valley at International Place, Saturday, September 29. 10 AM - 3 PM. Bring your pet to be blessed and learn about many organizations and practitioners that help us with our pets at the Fair . Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt.* ***http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ Donate often! You'll be helping Airedales nationwide! http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
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Hi Dorothy, To go along with what Marshall said. Applying CS helps a lot, a lot but the 'final' blow was application of the actual silver maker electrodes to the corner of my lips where the herpes was hiding for years. It would flare up with stress, like too hot, too cold, too umm stressed. A few times with one electrode in the lip corner and the other 'trode in wetted fingers for a minute; then swap for the other minute. current limited to 1mA. OK, the herpes did come back after about 5 years but due to a doozy of stress raiser. It hasn't been present lately and I've had a lot of nasty stressors. The silver has difficulty getting through fats , oils and mucous. Any of that will protect the nasties. OK, Tony M . On 15 Aug 2012 at 17:14, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, P I have done the CS thing for years but still the virus rears its ugly head. dee From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:01:02 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:01:13 -0700 I am not convinced that it cannot be eradicated completely. They say the same thing about the herpes virus, same hiding place, yet I was able to eradicate mine which I had had for almost 60 years with colloidal silver. The first step in being able to possibly eradicate it is believing that it can be. Marshall On 8/15/2012 8:28 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: This is quite right. The herpes zoster virus which produces chicken pox is also responsible for shingles. After chicken pox is contracted and finally abates, the virus hides itself away at the base of the nerves and then when the body is particularly weak, or stressed - it emerges as shingles. This can occur at any time throughout life, as the virus herpes is never eradicated totally. The trick is to keep the immune system at peak condition so it can keep on fighting it. dee From: Dan Navebhangcha...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:29:24 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:29:24 -0700 Nenah, I think you are incorrect when you say that people who have had chickenpox cannot get shingles. It is precisely the people who have had chickenpox who get shingles later in life due to a reactivation of the chickenpox virus. I am attaching a quote which seems to represent the current thinking about chickenpox and shingles. Dan What causes shingles? Shingles occurs when the virus that causes chickenpox starts up again in your body. After you get better from chickenpox, the virus sleeps (is dormant) in your nerve roots. In some people, it stays dormant forever. In others, the virus wakes up when disease, stress, or aging weakens the immune system. Some medicines may trigger the virus to wake up and cause a shingles rash. It is not clear why this happens. But after the virus becomes active again, it can only cause shingles, not chickenpox. You can't catch shingles from someone else who has shingles. But there is a small chance that a person with a shingles rash can spread the virus to another person who hasn't had chickenpox and who hasn't gotten the chickenpox vaccine. http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-t opic-o ve rview On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Nenah Sylvernenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: You ask about CS for animals. When I replaced my dogs¹ drinking water for CS, they drank two to three times as much. They knew what they needed. I don¹t give the dogs CS all the time, only when they need it. However, since silver appears to be an essential nutrient, it¹s reasonable to assume that one should drink it on occasion even if one isn¹t ill. I knew a health professional who used it for regular drinking, cooking, everything‹and he said his children were the healthiest of any kids he¹d ever seen. You mention fearing you¹ll get shingles (from the Herpes virus) as an adult because you had chicken pox when you were a child. Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don¹t get shingles. It¹s adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. For weight reduction, there¹s a good article on Mercola¹s website today about this: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/08/10/fat-not-g lucose .a spx?e_cid=20120810_DNL_artNew_1 Aside from diet, IF part of your weight problem is due to adenovirus, the CS should help
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote: Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don¹t get shingles. It¹s adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. This is NOT true and shouldn't be continually passed around. It is generally adults who had chicken pox that are at risk of getting shingles; however, although most cases of shingles are caused by the varicella-zoster virus (the cause of chicken pox), a few cases are caused by herpes simplex, so it is true that some people can get shingles from a latent herpes simplex infection even if they have never had chicken pox. Do a search on this term: chicken pox shingles -- and you will learn more about the fact that most people who get shingles are those who had chicken pox as a child. This is on Wikipedia; the links are serious links from well-established sources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenpox -- **Annual Animal Blessing and Faire at CSL Dallas, 4801 Spring Valley, just west of the tollway between Inwood and Spring Valley at International Place, Saturday, September 29. 10 AM - 3 PM. Bring your pet to be blessed and learn about many organizations and practitioners that help us with our pets at the Fair . Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt.* ***http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ Donate often! You'll be helping Airedales nationwide! http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
Re: CSNew to List; Is: Chicken Pox/Shingles - Homeopathic Herpes Zoster Remedy
Thanks, Rowena. I learn something new about cell salts and homeopathic remedies all the time. :) Lola H. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: It is the name of one of the remedies, probably called a nosode, classical homeopaths would have made it from the actual cells, I guess. Mine was made with frequency by the Interro program on my homeopath's computer. *Nosode is derived from NOSO (Gr.) that signifies the ‘disease products’. It may also be compared with NOXA (L.), which means ‘noxious or damage’. ‘Nosodotherapy’ means the therapeutic use of organic reactional wastes or some Ãetiological factors which are the source of the ‘damage’ to the disease. The term ‘nosode’ has no legal existence in France Germany and has been replaced by the term ‘biotherapy’. Dr. Pierre Schmidt explained nosodes as ‘/an isopathic remedy/‘. According to him, “If it is applied after having been tested on a healthy man, it becomes a nosode”. Actually, many of the nosodes do not possess this quality. Homeopath Renà Allendy defined nosodes: ”/The nosode is characterized by a pathological substance used as the medicine prepared in advance and according to the homeopathic method of dilution/“. Fortier Bernoville characterized a nosode as “/Specificity and Immunity/“. /“Nosodes are some homeopathic preparations obtained from microbe cultures, from viruses, pathological secretions and excretions”/ http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-repertory/a-short-study-on-julian%E2%80%99s-repertory-of-nosodes/ Nosodes are homeopathic remedies that are made from the specific products of a particular disease. This can be tissue containing the actual disease agents or tissue affected by those agents. Sometimes nosodes are made from vaccines containing the organisms. The nosodes are prepared in a diluted and potentized form just like all other homeopathic medicine. A nosode is simply a homeopathic remedy that is made from a disease product. Nosodes are not in any way infections, and can be used in the same way as vaccines, that is, to prevent viral infection. Like vaccines, nosodes sensitize the body to a particular virus, so the immune system can react quickly and effectively to natural exposure. Nosodes are at least as effective as vaccines, and in some cases have been shown to be significantly more effective than vaccines in preventing infection. http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/nosodes.htm Here is a site where they are selling the remedy: http://www.elixirs.com/products.cfm?productcode=S3 Herpes Zoster 30C for relief of symptoms from the virus herpes zoster. This form of herpes is best known as shingles. Herpes Zoster can be used as an adjunct to your health plan to clear vesicles. Herpes Zoster 30C may be safely used whether nerve pain is from current shingles or postherpetic neuralgia. and here http://www.phpltd.com/products/homeo_nosodes.aspx (Herpes Zoster) 18X, 30X, 60X, 200X http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1728/ http://educate-yourself.org/nch/Freqchart1.shtml Frequency chart for various ailments. 7)/Zoster/ (shingles): 574, 1557 *Varicella* (the herpes virus that causes chickenpox during childhood and shingles [herpes zoster] in adulthood): 345, 668, 716, 738 On 14/08/2012 11:29 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: Rowena... what is the Herpes zoster remedy? Lola H. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rowena new...@internode.on.netnew...@internode.on.net wrote: I had chickenpox as a girl. 30 years later I had shingles in my eyebrow near the top of the nose. I guessed what it was and took some homeopathic Rhus Tox while I waited to get to my homeopath, who gave me Herpes zoster remedy. It was all over in a week or two, which was great because it can be nasty so near the eye. It recurred slightly once a year for a few years, when a little soft scab would appear; if I scratched it away it would bleed. Then it didn't happen any more. All the best Rowena On 11/08/2012 2:45 AM, Joyce Miller wrote: Even though many who have had chicken pox do not get shingles, that is not because of having had chicken pox. I think of Shingles as adult chicken pox, but those who get it, would not get it if they had not had chicken pox
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
THANK YOU PHOENIX ! WE TRY HARD TO MAKE THE BEST OF EVERYTHING WE SELL. Tel Tofflemire OWNER OF ( WWW.QUAILWOODHERBAL.COM ) From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1 A good source of quality CS is www.quailwoodherbal.com. The owner of this company is a CS member on this site. You can email him with any questions at quailwoodherbal @cableone.net. I have bought my cs from him and some iodine. I used to buy the TriMedica brand but quailwoods is so much better and potent. His product is great !! Lola H. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: Laurie Weber wrote: I have bough colloidal silver on occasion I am interested in learning about all the benefits of using it. I hope to one day make my own but for now, can anyone recommend a good sourse to purchase it? I do use it internal and external. Actually, my dog uses it more than I do. I would love to hear about results of using it on pets. Laurie, I have one dog that is incontinent and I have been able to reign it in with Proin, colloidal silver, and two really good supplements. We feed raw, and this dog does not drink from the water bowl. So I use the colloidal silver my husband makes for the liquid in her two daily meals, raw meat and bones in the evening, raw milk kefir and a raw egg in the morning. If I stop the supplements, the incontinence gets active. If I stop the CS, the incontinence gets active. And if I stop the Proin, the incontinence gets active. So she gets all three in both meals, and she very seldom has an accident (her accidents happen without her knowledge, like sometimes when she is sitting). She is only nine years old, and otherwise, incredibly healthy. Joyce -- Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt. http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with success unexpected in common hours.~Henry David Thoreau
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You are very welcome. I like that we can share info on honest, reputable vendors and products on this site. :) Lola H. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: THANK YOU PHOENIX ! WE TRY HARD TO MAKE THE BEST OF EVERYTHING WE SELL. Tel Tofflemire OWNER OF ( WWW.QUAILWOODHERBAL.COMhttp://www.quailwoodherbal.com/) -- *From:* phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 12:00 PM *Subject:* Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1 A good source of quality CS is www.quailwoodherbal.com. The owner of this company is a CS member on this site. You can email him with any questions at quailwoodherbal @cableone.net. I have bought my cs from him and some iodine. I used to buy the TriMedica brand but quailwoods is so much better and potent. His product is great !! Lola H. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.netwrote: Laurie Weber wrote: I have bough colloidal silver on occasion I am interested in learning about all the benefits of using it. I hope to one day make my own but for now, can anyone recommend a good sourse to purchase it? I do use it internal and external. Actually, my dog uses it more than I do. I would love to hear about results of using it on pets. Laurie, I have one dog that is incontinent and I have been able to reign it in with Proin, colloidal silver, and two really good supplements. We feed raw, and this dog does not drink from the water bowl. So I use the colloidal silver my husband makes for the liquid in her two daily meals, raw meat and bones in the evening, raw milk kefir and a raw egg in the morning. If I stop the supplements, the incontinence gets active. If I stop the CS, the incontinence gets active. And if I stop the Proin, the incontinence gets active. So she gets all three in both meals, and she very seldom has an accident (her accidents happen without her knowledge, like sometimes when she is sitting). She is only nine years old, and otherwise, incredibly healthy. Joyce -- ***Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt. *** http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with success unexpected in common hours.~Henry David Thoreau http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
RE: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
Back to dogs, My brother has a 2yr old dobie that was spade and now leaks urine. She doesn't even know when it happens. Is there anything that canhelp her. He lives in Florida and she drinks lots of water due to heat. He has had to make her an outside dog but would love to have herinside. She is a wonderful dog. Is there any operation that could correct what went wrong during the spading process that caused this? She is a big (110 lb)girl, a dream dog that was ruined due to the operation. Dianne Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:45:39 -0500 Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2 From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I guess this has already been covered pretty well. I am 4 days behind the postings and the way my email groups posts by subject title makes things like this happen more often. Dan On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Nenah, I think you are incorrect when you say that people who have had chickenpox cannot get shingles. It is precisely the people who have had chickenpox who get shingles later in life due to a reactivation of the chickenpox virus. I am attaching a quote which seems to represent the current thinking about chickenpox and shingles. Dan What causes shingles? Shingles occurs when the virus that causes chickenpox starts up again in your body. After you get better from chickenpox, the virus sleeps (is dormant) in your nerve roots. In some people, it stays dormant forever. In others, the virus wakes up when disease, stress, or aging weakens the immune system. Some medicines may trigger the virus to wake up and cause a shingles rash. It is not clear why this happens. But after the virus becomes active again, it can only cause shingles, not chickenpox. You can't catch shingles from someone else who has shingles. But there is a small chance that a person with a shingles rash can spread the virus to another person who hasn't had chickenpox and who hasn't gotten the chickenpox vaccine. http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-topic-overview On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: You ask about CS for animals. When I replaced my dogs’ drinking water for CS, they drank two to three times as much. They knew what they needed. I don’t give the dogs CS all the time, only when they need it. However, since silver appears to be an essential nutrient, it’s reasonable to assume that one should drink it on occasion even if one isn’t ill. I knew a health professional who used it for regular drinking, cooking, everything—and he said his children were the healthiest of any kids he’d ever seen. You mention fearing you’ll get shingles (from the Herpes virus) as an adult because you had chicken pox when you were a child. Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don’t get shingles. It’s adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. For weight reduction, there’s a good article on Mercola’s website today about this: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/08/10/fat-not-glucose.aspx?e_cid=20120810_DNL_artNew_1 Aside from diet, IF part of your weight problem is due to adenovirus, the CS should help with that IF it can reach the viruses. Former smokers often have problems with weight gain. You may need to reset the hypothalamus. Look up “Simeons HCG.” I encourage you to purchase a CS generator, especially as it seems you’ll be using a lot of silver. The generator will pay for itself in no time. You may also want to get a distilled water maker. I got mine from Sears for about $130 including tax. Be well, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
There are homeopathic drops for dogs that are suppose to work very good. You have to google for them as I don't recall where I saw them before. Samala, Renee Back to dogs, My brother has a 2yr old dobie that was spade and now leaks urine. She doesn't even know when it happens. Is there anything that can help her.
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
Dianne France wrote: My brother has a 2yr old dobie that was spade and now leaks urine. She doesn't even know when it happens. Is there anything that can help her. He lives in Florida and she drinks lots of water due to heat. He has had to make her an outside dog but would love to have her inside. She is a wonderful dog. Is there any operation that could correct what went wrong during the spading process that caused this? Might be worth a try giving straight CS as the dog's drinking water for a few months. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List; Is: Chicken Pox/Shingles
I had chickenpox as a girl. 30 years later I had shingles in my eyebrow near the top of the nose. I guessed what it was and took some homeopathic Rhus Tox while I waited to get to my homeopath, who gave me Herpes zoster remedy. It was all over in a week or two, which was great because it can be nasty so near the eye. It recurred slightly once a year for a few years, when a little soft scab would appear; if I scratched it away it would bleed. Then it didn't happen any more. All the best Rowena On 11/08/2012 2:45 AM, Joyce Miller wrote: Even though many who have had chicken pox do not get shingles, that is not because of having had chicken pox. I think of Shingles as adult chicken pox, but those who get it, would not get it if they had not had chicken pox
Re: CSNew to List; Is: Chicken Pox/Shingles
Rowena... what is the Herpes zoster remedy? Lola H. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: I had chickenpox as a girl. 30 years later I had shingles in my eyebrow near the top of the nose. I guessed what it was and took some homeopathic Rhus Toxwhile I waited to get to my homeopath, who gave me Herpes zoster remedy. It was all over in a week or two, which was great because it can be nasty so near the eye. It recurred slightly once a year for a few years, when a little soft scab would appear; if I scratched it away it would bleed. Then it didn't happen any more. All the best Rowena On 11/08/2012 2:45 AM, Joyce Miller wrote: Even though many who have had chicken pox do not get shingles, that is not because of having had chicken pox. I think of Shingles as adult chicken pox, but those who get it, would not get it if they had not had chicken pox
RE: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA
Hi Laurie,
I've treated a dog with inner ear infection with EIS, fixed it overnight, and
that was after months of vet pills, potions, and whatever else, not forgetting
the money spent.
I don't believe EIS does anything for arthritis. You didn't ask this I know,
but thought I'd add that. The same dog {our daughters} has arthritis and EIS
does jack for it, but our daughter squirts some EIS down it's throat every
couple weeks.
Don't worry about Shingles, if you are fairly healthy with good diet and aren't
a worry wort there is no reason you should get Shingles as far as I'm
concerned. Only a handful of people statistically get Shingles anyway, but if
you ever did get a bout, make fresh EIS each day and consume up to 500ml a day.
That's been my experience anyway.
Your connection with chicken pox and Shingles is correct, as has been
adequately dealt with already by other members regarding chicken pox dormancy
in the body.
FWIW, I ingest a small quantity of EIS every morning, been doing this for
several years.
N.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 07:33:15 -0700
From: lad0...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA
Hi All,
I have bough colloidal silver on occasion I am interested in learning about
all the benefits of using it. I hope to one day make my own but for now, can
anyone recommend a good sourse to purchase it? I do use it internal and
external. Actually, my dog uses it more than I do. I would love to hear about
results of using it on pets. My dog is elderly (13) and has had arthritis
since he was 2. He's a big guy at 85 lbs. He may be having some neurologic
issues now and has lost muscle mass and gotten weaker in the back end. I use a
boatload of supplements on him and he is treated holistically except for a
couple of minor pain relievers that I may need to bump up to something
stronger/anti-inflammatory. For me, I'm pretty healthy except for gaining 30
lbs when I quit smoking last fall. I can't seem to shake the weight. I'm 46.
I had chicken pox as a baby
and keep thinking I need to do some research and prepare myself in case I get
shingles. I use a lot of therapeutic grade essential oils too. I love them.
I also use DE and calcium bentonite clay, some homeopathics. Any help you can
provide this newbie would be greatly appreciated.
Laurie
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA
I agree with Zoe on the Shingles. Herpes virus interconverts between species: Zoster (Shingles), Simplex (Herpes Type I and II) and Varicella (Chicken Pox). It lives in the nerves and blooms under certain conditions such as stress. I love my SG6 because it will make at least a half gallon at a time, has a stirring stick and water quality indicator, as well as a rheostat to set the concentration you want the end product to be -- comes with a calibration. It is more expensive but I have been very pleased with the functionality and do not feel that any less would make me as happy now. Janet R. Perry, MA Wellness Consultant Peoples Pharamcy peoplesrx.com Austin, Texas 512.585.1320 On 8/10/12 11:23 AM, Zoe W wrote: Laurie, I am currently battling a rather severe case of shingles, go thru our archives during the last two weeks and you will find the conversations concerning such. I might add that there is something called a shingles vaccine- its expensive, most insurances won't cover it, but had I learned about it in time I would have given it a try. My grandmother had shingles when I was younger, she and I both had chickenpox as children. In fact everyone I know of who has or had the shingles ALSO had chickenpox as children. The same virus also causes cold sores. I was taking L-argenine prior to my outbreak and now suspect that may be what triggered it. Melly mentioned that argenine in our foods can trigger herpes. CS is so vitally important for just about anything concerning our health, I strongly recommend you get one of the generators. I personally have the Silver Puppy and just love it. I chose it mostly because it was less expensive. After several years of use I have never been sorry. Some day when Im rich and famous I would like to have the one that makes a gallon at a time. For now I am happy with my quart. Once upon a time I bought one bottle of CS and it cost 20$ for a 2 oz bottle, thats when I started researching generators. best of luck to you and heres hoping you NEVER get the shingles. zoe *From:* Laurie Weber lad0...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, 10 August 2012, 10:33 *Subject:* CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA Hi All, I have bough colloidal silver on occasion I am interested in learning about all the benefits of using it. I hope to one day make my own but for now, can anyone recommend a good sourse to purchase it? I do use it internal and external. Actually, my dog uses it more than I do. I would love to hear about results of using it on pets. My dog is elderly (13) and has had arthritis since he was 2. He's a big guy at 85 lbs. He may be having some neurologic issues now and has lost muscle mass and gotten weaker in the back end. I use a boatload of supplements on him and he is treated holistically except for a couple of minor pain relievers that I may need to bump up to something stronger/anti-inflammatory. For me, I'm pretty healthy except for gaining 30 lbs when I quit smoking last fall. I can't seem to shake the weight. I'm 46. I had chicken pox as a baby and keep thinking I need to do some research and prepare myself in case I get shingles. I use a lot of therapeutic grade essential oils too. I love them. I also use DE and calcium bentonite clay, some homeopathics. Any help you can provide this newbie would be greatly appreciated. Laurie
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
Laurie Weber wrote: I have bough colloidal silver on occasion I am interested in learning about all the benefits of using it. I hope to one day make my own but for now, can anyone recommend a good sourse to purchase it? I do use it internal and external. Actually, my dog uses it more than I do. I would love to hear about results of using it on pets. My dog is elderly (13) and has had arthritis since he was 2. He's a big guy at 85 lbs. He may be having some neurologic issues now and has lost muscle mass and gotten weaker in the back end. I use a boatload of supplements on him and he is treated holistically except for a couple of minor pain relievers that I may need to bump up to something stronger/anti-inflammatory. For me, I'm pretty healthy except for gaining 30 lbs when I quit smoking last fall. I can't seem to shake the weight. I'm 46. I had chicken pox as a baby and keep thinking I need to do some research and prepare myself in case I get shingles. I use a lot of therapeutic grade essential oils too. I love them. I also use DE and calcium bentonite clay, some homeopathics. Any help you can provide this newbie would be greatly appreciated. == Hi Laurie. Welcome to the group. Here is the information you requested. I'm including sources of reliable generators because I've been making my own CS for so long, I haven't had to purchase any. COLLOIDAL SILVER LINKS (equipment and information): Generators at reasonable prices http://www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com/ http://www.silverpuppy.com http://www.silverpuppy.com/ http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/ http://www.sotainstruments.com/products.html [Canadian company] http://www.justmagnotherapy.com/silver-pulser.html [UK company] Info and CS products: http://www.csprosystems.com/BYU_Bacteria_Testing.html http://www.silver-lightning.com/ http://argyria.info/ http://www.silver-colloids.com/Tutorials/Intro/pcs1.html Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 2
You ask about CS for animals. When I replaced my dogs' drinking water for CS, they drank two to three times as much. They knew what they needed. I don't give the dogs CS all the time, only when they need it. However, since silver appears to be an essential nutrient, it's reasonable to assume that one should drink it on occasion even if one isn't ill. I knew a health professional who used it for regular drinking, cooking, everything-and he said his children were the healthiest of any kids he'd ever seen. You mention fearing you'll get shingles (from the Herpes virus) as an adult because you had chicken pox when you were a child. Adults who had chicken pox as children typically don't get shingles. It's adults who did NOT have chicken pox earlier in their lives who generally get shingles. For weight reduction, there's a good article on Mercola's website today about this: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/08/10/fat-not-glucose. aspx?e_cid=20120810_DNL_artNew_1 Aside from diet, IF part of your weight problem is due to adenovirus, the CS should help with that IF it can reach the viruses. Former smokers often have problems with weight gain. You may need to reset the hypothalamus. Look up Simeons HCG. I encourage you to purchase a CS generator, especially as it seems you'll be using a lot of silver. The generator will pay for itself in no time. You may also want to get a distilled water maker. I got mine from Sears for about $130 including tax. Be well, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA
Laurie, I am currently battling a rather severe case of shingles, go thru our archives during the last two weeks and you will find the conversations concerning such. I might add that there is something called a shingles vaccine- its expensive, most insurances won't cover it, but had I learned about it in time I would have given it a try. My grandmother had shingles when I was younger, she and I both had chickenpox as children. In fact everyone I know of who has or had the shingles ALSO had chickenpox as children. The same virus also causes cold sores. I was taking L-argenine prior to my outbreak and now suspect that may be what triggered it. Melly mentioned that argenine in our foods can trigger herpes. CS is so vitally important for just about anything concerning our health, I strongly recommend you get one of the generators. I personally have the Silver Puppy and just love it. I chose it mostly because it was less expensive. After several years of use I have never been sorry. Some day when Im rich and famous I would like to have the one that makes a gallon at a time. For now I am happy with my quart. Once upon a time I bought one bottle of CS and it cost 20$ for a 2 oz bottle, thats when I started researching generators. best of luck to you and heres hoping you NEVER get the shingles. zoe From: Laurie Weber lad0...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 10:33 Subject: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA Hi All, I have bough colloidal silver on occasion I am interested in learning about all the benefits of using it. I hope to one day make my own but for now, can anyone recommend a good sourse to purchase it? I do use it internal and external. Actually, my dog uses it more than I do. I would love to hear about results of using it on pets. My dog is elderly (13) and has had arthritis since he was 2. He's a big guy at 85 lbs. He may be having some neurologic issues now and has lost muscle mass and gotten weaker in the back end. I use a boatload of supplements on him and he is treated holistically except for a couple of minor pain relievers that I may need to bump up to something stronger/anti-inflammatory. For me, I'm pretty healthy except for gaining 30 lbs when I quit smoking last fall. I can't seem to shake the weight. I'm 46. I had chicken pox as a baby and keep thinking I need to do some research and prepare myself in case I get shingles. I use a lot of therapeutic grade essential oils too. I love them. I also use DE and calcium bentonite clay, some homeopathics. Any help you can provide this newbie would be greatly appreciated. Laurie
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: Laurie Weber wrote: I have bough colloidal silver on occasion I am interested in learning about all the benefits of using it. I hope to one day make my own but for now, can anyone recommend a good sourse to purchase it? I do use it internal and external. Actually, my dog uses it more than I do. I would love to hear about results of using it on pets. Laurie, I have one dog that is incontinent and I have been able to reign it in with Proin, colloidal silver, and two really good supplements. We feed raw, and this dog does not drink from the water bowl. So I use the colloidal silver my husband makes for the liquid in her two daily meals, raw meat and bones in the evening, raw milk kefir and a raw egg in the morning. If I stop the supplements, the incontinence gets active. If I stop the CS, the incontinence gets active. And if I stop the Proin, the incontinence gets active. So she gets all three in both meals, and she very seldom has an accident (her accidents happen without her knowledge, like sometimes when she is sitting). She is only nine years old, and otherwise, incredibly healthy. Joyce -- ** *Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt. *** http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with success unexpected in common hours.~Henry David Thoreau http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA
Zoe is absolutely right about the chicken pox and shingles: here is one very good site on the topic. http://www.nfid.org/publications/factsheets/varicellaadult.pdf -- ** *Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt. *** http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with success unexpected in common hours.~Henry David Thoreau http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
RE: CSNew to List; Is: Chicken Pox/Shingles
Joyce wrote: Zoe is absolutely right about the chicken pox and shingles. == This is quite illuminating-I had no idea that adults with a history of childhood chicken pox could contract shingles as adults! However, I do think that having had the illness as a child can help the immune system to more effectively deal with shingles later in life. Think of all the adults who DID have chicken pox as children and who DON'T get shingles later. One of the best anti-viral (and anti-fungal) herbs I know of is chaparral, also known as creosote bush (Latin: Larrea tridentata). The plant grows in the American Southwest and is free from insects and rot due to some very powerful phytochemicals it produces. Over a decade ago, a research scientist isolated and removed the compounds in the plant that the FDA claimed were liver toxic. Unlike what often happens when some ingredients are removed from a plant's phytochemical matrix, the resulting product was still highly effective. There's a company called Shegoi that sells this product; you can find it on the web. You can also purchase Larrea from www.mountainroseherbs.com http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/ Chaparral grows freely where I live. I gather the leaves, make a tincture with DMSO (straining the leaves), and for rashes etc. simply apply the tincture. It works well. You can add CS to this mix. The DMSO will bring the solution right into the body. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
A good source of quality CS is www.quailwoodherbal.com. The owner of this company is a CS member on this site. You can email him with any questions at quailwoodherbal @cableone.net. I have bought my cs from him and some iodine. I used to buy the TriMedica brand but quailwoods is so much better and potent. His product is great !! Lola H. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.netwrote: Laurie Weber wrote: I have bough colloidal silver on occasion I am interested in learning about all the benefits of using it. I hope to one day make my own but for now, can anyone recommend a good sourse to purchase it? I do use it internal and external. Actually, my dog uses it more than I do. I would love to hear about results of using it on pets. Laurie, I have one dog that is incontinent and I have been able to reign it in with Proin, colloidal silver, and two really good supplements. We feed raw, and this dog does not drink from the water bowl. So I use the colloidal silver my husband makes for the liquid in her two daily meals, raw meat and bones in the evening, raw milk kefir and a raw egg in the morning. If I stop the supplements, the incontinence gets active. If I stop the CS, the incontinence gets active. And if I stop the Proin, the incontinence gets active. So she gets all three in both meals, and she very seldom has an accident (her accidents happen without her knowledge, like sometimes when she is sitting). She is only nine years old, and otherwise, incredibly healthy. Joyce -- ***Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt. *** http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with success unexpected in common hours.~Henry David Thoreau http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA
Thanks Joyce, this one is definitely going into my file. zoe From: Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 12:47 Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA Zoe is absolutely right about the chicken pox and shingles: here is one very good site on the topic. http://www.nfid.org/publications/factsheets/varicellaadult.pdf -- Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt. http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with success unexpected in common hours.~Henry David Thoreau
Re: CSNew to List; Is: Chicken Pox/Shingles
Nenah, Even though many who have had chicken pox do not get shingles, that is not because of having had chicken pox. I think of Shingles as adult chicken pox, but those who get it, would not get it if they had not had chicken pox. It is the same virus. Absolutely the same, and it lives on in our bodies . . . the following excerpts from two articles explain much: Shingles is caused by reactivation of a previous infection with the varicella-zoster virus (VZV) that initially causes chickenpox; VZV lies dormant in the nerves and reactivates when immune defenses are weakened. Disseminated herpes zoster resembles chicken pox, with a rash, fever and possibly pneumonia; herpes zoster may also lead to ocular and neurological complications. *Varicella zoster virus* (*VZV*) is one of eight herpes viruseshttp://www.babylon.com/definition/Herpesviridae/English?uil=Englishuris=%21%21ARV6FUJ2JPtid=Definition known to infect humans (and other vertebrates). It commonly causes chicken-poxhttp://www.babylon.com/definition/chicken-pox/English?uil=Englishuris=%21%21ARV6FUJ2JPtid=Definition in children and adults and Herpes zoster (shingles)http://www.babylon.com/definition/Herpes%20zoster/English?uil=Englishuris=%21%21ARV6FUJ2JPtid=Definition in adults ... Anyone who has had chickenpox may get shingles later in life. But there's a vaccine that may help prevent shingles or make it less painful if you do get it. The shingles vaccinehttp://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/webmd/consumer_assets/site_images/media/pdf/hw/form_vis23.pdfis known as Zostavax http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-144377-zostavax+subq.aspx. Adults ages 50 and older can get one dose, whether or not they've had shingleshttp://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/default.htmbefore. . . . If you have never had chickenpox, you may avoid getting the virus that causes both chickenpox and later shingles by receiving the varicella vaccine http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/chickenpox-varicella-vaccine. . . . If you have never had chickenpox and have never gotten the chickenpox vaccine, avoid contact with people who have shingles or chickenpox. Fluid from shingles blistershttp://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/understanding-blisters-basicsis contagious and can cause chickenpox (but not shingles) in people who have never had chickenpox and who have never gotten the chickenpox vaccine. You may be able to zap shingles with vitamin B12 and you can take lysine to shorten the duration of the attack but if you have had chicken pox, that will NOT prevent you from getting shingles but it may cause you to get shingles. http://www.healthiertalk.com/prevent-shingles-vitamins-not-vaccine-3836 Shingles can occur in anyone who's had the chicken pox. They are both caused by the same virus, the varicella-zoster virus. Here's how it happens... When you get chickenpox, the itchy spots go away, but the virus never leaves your body. It lies dormant in your nerve roots. Then, years later, the virus suddenly wakes up and you get the painful shingles rash. Shingles can hit at any age. But you're more likely to get the rash if: - You're over 60 - You had chickenpox before age one - Your immune system is weakened by medications or disease - You are under extreme stress Usually, you first notice a burning pain around your mid-section. . . . Next, the tell-tale rash appears at the site of the pain. Then, the rash blisters and crusts form. The crusts usually fall off in two to three weeks. Most conventional docs try to treat shingles with anti-viral medications. But these may only shorten the virus by a day or two. Plus, you still have the pain to deal with. For that, you'll need some heavy-duty pain killers. Anti-inflammatory meds won't cut it. And neither will the vaccine. The good news is there's something else works even better. It significantly shortens the duration of the attack. Plus, it's all natural. *Vitamin therapy zaps shingles* Vitamin B12 is hands down the best way to get over shingles. I've seen nothing else work as well or as fast. It goes directly to the nerve root to attack the zoster virus. Ask your doctor for an intra-muscular shot that contains 1 mg of B-12. Get one shot each day for a week or until the symptoms completely disappear. But you can also take B12 to prevent to prevent shingles. Go for 500 mcg of sublingual B12 (under the tongue) each day. This will keep your nerve cells healthy and help prevent the zoster virus from ever waking up. *One more safe option to try* You can also try lysine to shorten the duration of a shingles attack. Go for 3 grams (3,000 mg) of lysine daily until your symptoms disappear. It can also help lessen the pain and itching. You can find lysine at most grocery stores and vitamin shops. Just don't take lysine on a routine basis…It disrupts your body's lysine-arginine ratio. You see, lysine competes with arginine in the body. The more lysine you take, the less arginine available to your body. And
Re: CSNew to List; Is: Chicken Pox/Shingles
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Hi List members, I know that stripping one's emails is a good thing but when the email one is responding to is stripped often responses make no sense at all. Would you please include what you are responding to in your email? Thanks. PT From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 3:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List; Is: Chicken Pox/Shingles You are spot on Joyce - very good and precise information - thanks for taking the time to do this for us all Regards Sandee Attitude is everything!!! www.aliveagain.co.cc _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5191 - Release Date: 08/10/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5191 - Release Date: 08/10/12 Fast, Secure, http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it.
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From: Kathy [mailto:kathy.she...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSnew to list Hello, I am new to the list. My husband who is a diabetic, developed an ulcer on his toe which became infected. He has done antibiotics in the past for MRSA, and we are trying to avoid a long course of heavy duty antibiotics again. The initial wound culture is negative for MRSA but we suspect it may be in there. Can someone recommend a good brand and dose of silver? We have tried Mesosilver with limited success. Thank you, Kathy One of the problems of using CS for MRSA or for wounds of this type is getting it to penetrate properly. See the attached post below, which may be of use to you in this situation. Dan From: Brooks Bradley Date: Wednesday, 23 June 2004 Subject: CS/ MRSA cure? Comment About three years ago we conducted rather extensive evaluations for effectivity of colloidal silver on MRSA (presenting both topically and as epithelial tissue challenge in the throat). We investigated a consequential number of protocol variations. ALL those including colloidal silver proved acceptably effective. However, the most effective single protocol, utilizing a minimum number of total ingredients, revealed to be one including nothing more than 75% 10 to 20 ppm colloidal silver (by volume), 10% full-strength DMSO (by volume) and 15% Glycerin (by volume). Our results displayed to be (in comparison to the general anecdotal information in the posted article) equal or superior in time response to those claimed by the authors of the information appearing in web posting at Mr. Rense's site. My comments are not designed in any way to denigrate the very useful/effective results achieved by the gentleman at the center of this disclosure. It is quite pleasing to observe the demonstrated success of the untaught medical savage in addressing the very real, and threatening, challenge of MRSA in contrast to the ineptitude and poorly designed/executed research machinations of the U.K's reigning Phamaceutical Convention. :) Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation
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Kathy, If the CS plus DMSO doesn't work, consider CS with Bentonite clay or French Green Clay. See: http://www.silvermedicine.org/bentoniteandsilverbacterialcomparisonstudy .html http://www.silvermedicine.org/bentoniteandsilverbacterialcomparisonstud y.html http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverandbentonite.html http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverandbentonite.html http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071025120514.htm You might also consider using an ionic based silver vs. the colloid based Mesosilver. Ionic silver works better for topical application. - Steve N From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:36 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSnew to list From: Kathy [mailto:kathy.she...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSnew to list Hello, I am new to the list. My husband who is a diabetic, developed an ulcer on his toe which became infected. He has done antibiotics in the past for MRSA, and we are trying to avoid a long course of heavy duty antibiotics again. The initial wound culture is negative for MRSA but we suspect it may be in there. Can someone recommend a good brand and dose of silver? We have tried Mesosilver with limited success. Thank you, Kathy One of the problems of using CS for MRSA or for wounds of this type is getting it to penetrate properly. See the attached post below, which may be of use to you in this situation. Dan From: Brooks Bradley Date: Wednesday, 23 June 2004 Subject: CS/ MRSA cure? Comment About three years ago we conducted rather extensive evaluations for effectivity of colloidal silver on MRSA (presenting both topically and as epithelial tissue challenge in the throat). We investigated a consequential number of protocol variations. ALL those including colloidal silver proved acceptably effective. However, the most effective single protocol, utilizing a minimum number of total ingredients, revealed to be one including nothing more than 75% 10 to 20 ppm colloidal silver (by volume), 10% full-strength DMSO (by volume) and 15% Glycerin (by volume). Our results displayed to be (in comparison to the general anecdotal information in the posted article) equal or superior in time response to those claimed by the authors of the information appearing in web posting at Mr. Rense's site. My comments are not designed in any way to denigrate the very useful/effective results achieved by the gentleman at the center of this disclosure. It is quite pleasing to observe the demonstrated success of the untaught medical savage in addressing the very real, and threatening, challenge of MRSA in contrast to the ineptitude and poorly designed/executed research machinations of the U.K's reigning Phamaceutical Convention. :) Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation
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The $ key and the 4 key are only a shift key apart. Common error in high speed typoing. Ode Typo nagitive blod? At 06:33 PM 11/11/2005 -0500, you wrote: Four Hundred and ten dollars What ARE you drinking besides CS Bob? Chuck Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. On 11/11/2005 5:07:57 PM, Robert Berger (bober...@swbell.net) wrote: Hello Newbies, www.jameco.com sells a 120 vac to 24 vdc for 410.49, part #252857CH. The output is nearer 27 volts and things work alot better. Ole Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8 - Release Date: 11/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0 - Release Date: 11/11/2005
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Any bullion coin will do. www.ccsilvercom Ode At 02:01 PM 11/10/2005 -0800, you wrote: Hi, I am new to the concept of CS, and wish to try it out. I want to make my own generator, I don't have the $200 to buy one and I like DIY projects better anyway. I read a couple of sites that say one needs pure silver, they mentioned a canadian maple leaf dollar. Is this accurate? Are there other sources for silver? How can one be sure the source is pure? I think I can handle the electrolysis and distilled water aspect of the generator, I just need to find some good silver. Thanks, Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8 - Release Date: 11/8/2005
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My homemade generator runs off a 9v transformer. You can find all sorts of battery generator instructions, using from one to four 9 v batteries. I used a 9v wall wart because I had one on hand. I think the lower the voltage the slower the process. Which is not necessarily a disadvantage if you aren't putting in any current controls, I did connect in an inexpensive digital meter, so I could monitor current. sol Ken Nancy Bagwell wrote: 1. Buy a 6 volt DC transformer for about 5 clams. Better yet, pick up one at a flea market for .50. The current doesn't matter as this method uses less than one ma. http://preventionforever.com/silver.htm My only question about this method is that I thought in order to make CS, you needed at least 27v or more? Is that not so? -Ken Bagwell -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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If one wants or needs an inexpensive, basic EIS maker, V sells one. Less expensive than making my own was. I bought mine from abeland. He sells it on ebay, and direct. It worked out much less expensive for me than ccsilver, because of the minimums there. sol Kathelee wrote: can you please provide the link to making it thanks kathelee Hi Kelburn, I got my silver here its . pure alos and comes in wire form so its easier to use. http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four Take care, V -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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oops, meant to say I bought my silver wire from abeland. All the EIS I use can't improve my typing. sorry, sol sol wrote: If one wants or needs an inexpensive, basic EIS maker, V sells one. Less expensive than making my own was. I bought mine from abeland. He sells it on ebay, and direct. It worked out much less expensive for me than ccsilver, because of the minimums there. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi sol, Yeah I have a new one coming out soon that has current limited to 1 ma Take care, V If one wants or needs an inexpensive, basic EIS maker, V sells one. Less expensive than making my own was. I bought mine from abeland. He sells it on ebay, and direct. It worked out much less expensive for me than ccsilver, because of the minimums there. sol Kathelee wrote: can you please provide the link to making it thanks kathelee Hi Kelburn, I got my silver here its . pure alos and comes in wire form so its easier to use. http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four Take care, V -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
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Four Hundred and ten dollars What ARE you drinking besides CS Bob? Chuck Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. On 11/11/2005 5:07:57 PM, Robert Berger (bober...@swbell.net) wrote: Hello Newbies, www.jameco.com sells a 120 vac to 24 vdc for 410.49, part #252857CH. The output is nearer 27 volts and things work alot better. Ole Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Why not buy a small amperage regulated DC power supply? Lots of them around. TJ - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to list and CS My homemade generator runs off a 9v transformer. You can find all sorts of battery generator instructions, using from one to four 9 v batteries. I used a 9v wall wart because I had one on hand. I think the lower the voltage the slower the process. Which is not necessarily a disadvantage if you aren't putting in any current controls, I did connect in an inexpensive digital meter, so I could monitor current. sol Ken Nancy Bagwell wrote: 1. Buy a 6 volt DC transformer for about 5 clams. Better yet, pick up one at a flea market for .50. The current doesn't matter as this method uses less than one ma. http://preventionforever.com/silver.htm My only question about this method is that I thought in order to make CS, you needed at least 27v or more? Is that not so? -Ken Bagwell -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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If look at the shifted #4 key it is the $ dollar sign ! Sorry for poor prood reading. Ole Bob cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Four Hundred and ten dollars What ARE you drinking besides CS Bob? Chuck Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. On 11/11/2005 5:07:57 PM, Robert Berger (bober...@swbell.net) wrote: Hello Newbies, www.jameco.com sells a 120 vac to 24 vdc for 410.49, part #252857CH. The output is nearer 27 volts and things work alot better. Ole Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Hello all: A friend of mine in Uniontown, Pa. has transformers for sale for $38.00 postpaid USA. 120vac input...25vdc output...500ma..20 watt. E-mail me and I can have him contact you by phone...Bill - Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to list and CS Hello Newbies, www.jameco.com sells a 120 vac to 24 vdc for 410.49, part #252857CH. The output is nearer 27 volts and things work alot better. Ole Bob
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Well I hate to spoil a party but you can buy them for 4.50 here I bet he makes a killing selling them for 38.00 http://www.allelectronics.com/matrix/DC_Wall_Transformers.html Take care, V Hello all: A friend of mine in Uniontown, Pa. has transformers for sale for $38.00 postpaid USA. 120vac input...25vdc output...500ma..20 watt. E-mail me and I can have him contact you by phone...Bill - Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to list and CS Hello Newbies, www.jameco.com sells a 120 vac to 24 vdc for 410.49, part #252857CH. The output is nearer 27 volts and things work alot better. Ole Bob -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I looked up the silver Canadian Maple Leaf, and it is indeed . (99.99%) pure silver. Sounds like an easy access to very good silver. I never would have thought of it! -Ken Bagwell --- Kelburn Koontz kelbur...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am new to the concept of CS, and wish to try it out. I want to make my own generator, I don't have the $200 to buy one and I like DIY projects better anyway. I read a couple of sites that say one needs pure silver, they mentioned a canadian maple leaf dollar. Is this accurate? Are there other sources for silver? How can one be sure the source is pure? I think I can handle the electrolysis and distilled water aspect of the generator, I just need to find some good silver. Thanks, Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Hi Kelburn, I got my silver here its . pure alos and comes in wire form so its easier to use. http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four Take care, V Hi, I am new to the concept of CS, and wish to try it out. I want to make my own generator, I don't have the $200 to buy one and I like DIY projects better anyway. I read a couple of sites that say one needs pure silver, they mentioned a canadian maple leaf dollar. Is this accurate? Are there other sources for silver? How can one be sure the source is pure? I think I can handle the electrolysis and distilled water aspect of the generator, I just need to find some good silver. Thanks, Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
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1. Buy a 6 volt DC transformer for about 5 clams. Better yet, pick up one at a flea market for .50. The current doesn't matter as this method uses less than one ma. http://preventionforever.com/silver.htm My only question about this method is that I thought in order to make CS, you needed at least 27v or more? Is that not so? -Ken Bagwell --- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Kelburn, I got my silver here its . pure alos and comes in wire form so its easier to use. http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four Take care, V Hi, I am new to the concept of CS, and wish to try it out. I want to make my own generator, I don't have the $200 to buy one and I like DIY projects better anyway. I read a couple of sites that say one needs pure silver, they mentioned a canadian maple leaf dollar. Is this accurate? Are there other sources for silver? How can one be sure the source is pure? I think I can handle the electrolysis and distilled water aspect of the generator, I just need to find some good silver. Thanks, Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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can you please provide the link to making it thanks kathelee - Original Message - From: V vzo...@yahoo.com To: Kelburn Koontz silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:26 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to list and CS Hi Kelburn, I got my silver here its . pure alos and comes in wire form so its easier to use. http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four Take care, V Hi, I am new to the concept of CS, and wish to try it out. I want to make my own generator, I don't have the $200 to buy one and I like DIY projects better anyway. I read a couple of sites that say one needs pure silver, they mentioned a canadian maple leaf dollar. Is this accurate? Are there other sources for silver? How can one be sure the source is pure? I think I can handle the electrolysis and distilled water aspect of the generator, I just need to find some good silver. Thanks, Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/165 - Release Date: 11/9/2005
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Hi Ken, That is not so you can make it with any voltage. the lower voltage takse longer. If you use a bubbler along with it, it works very well even at 6 volts. Ideal is about 30 volts but any volts works. My personla one uses about 45 volts. when you have more voltage then you have to watch the current as the conductivity goes up. With low volts the conductivuty cant go too high easily so you dont have to monitor it so much. Take care, V 1. Buy a 6 volt DC transformer for about 5 clams. Better yet, pick up one at a flea market for .50. The current doesn't matter as this method uses less than one ma. http://preventionforever.com/silver.htm My only question about this method is that I thought in order to make CS, you needed at least 27v or more? Is that not so? -Ken Bagwell --- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Kelburn, I got my silver here its . pure alos and comes in wire form so its easier to use. http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four Take care, V Hi, I am new to the concept of CS, and wish to try it out. I want to make my own generator, I don't have the $200 to buy one and I like DIY projects better anyway. I read a couple of sites that say one needs pure silver, they mentioned a canadian maple leaf dollar. Is this accurate? Are there other sources for silver? How can one be sure the source is pure? I think I can handle the electrolysis and distilled water aspect of the generator, I just need to find some good silver. Thanks, Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
Re: CSNew to list and CS
From: Ken Nancy Bagwell I looked up the silver Canadian Maple Leaf, and it is indeed . (99.99%) pure silver. I used the Canadian Maple leaf in my old CS maker. Duncan Crow and someone else suggested that I have them rolled out to give a larger surface. I never have. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com; Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers and rebounders -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to list and CS
I thought the same thing. Probably just hammer it really good, since I have no idea how else I might roll it out. -Ken Bagwell --- 4optimallife 4optimall...@rogers.com wrote: From: Ken Nancy Bagwell I looked up the silver Canadian Maple Leaf, and it is indeed . (99.99%) pure silver. I used the Canadian Maple leaf in my old CS maker. Duncan Crow and someone else suggested that I have them rolled out to give a larger surface. I never have. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com; Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers and rebounders -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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R.e. acidophilus, a recent newsletter (134) from Altered States company in NZ indicates that CS may actually PROMOTE the growth of beneficial flora in the intestines. I do not have time to follow up on the claim; the newsletter has some references included. List members can go to the site and request the newsletter. I did not forward it because it comes in a format that takes up a lot fo space -- elaborate moving graphics and all that rubbish. Ask and they will send. JBB Bill Missett wrote: Welcome to the list. Hope this helps fill in the info-gap: I've had excellent results with killing and controlling amoebas and other parasites, and live in an area (Southern Mexico) where they are common food contaminants, as well as salmonella, e.coli, and others (bad shrimp, bay oysters, etc.) I've killed all of the above with CS, a potent variety sold OTC all over Mexico, in industrial strength dosages for extended periods of time, with no adverse intestinal conditions. (Certainly not as bad as the conditions the CS is preventing, anyway. A little acididolphilus never hurts either.) As to whether CS will kill the amoeba cysts themselves, I am uncertain, but I would suspect the answer is yes. It will kill all amoebas as they hatch, breaking the cycle they create in your body. I have been so effective in control of these intestinal parasites, through daily doses of CS, that I have not suffered a single incident in five years, nor have I had a single case of dengue fever during that same time, which I used to get about 2-3 times a year. - Original Message - From: Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS] lkwet...@iastate.edu To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: CSNew to list Hello, I have been investigating colloidal silver lately after a long journey with entomoeba histolytica and other health problems, especially in the last year. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism (have been hypo for years but ignored), adrenal hypofunction, and entomoeba histolytica infection. I was treated for the amoeba with flagyl a month after the thyroid diagnosis which was a disastrous health period of beginning the wrong kind of thyroid therapy and not getting any treatment for adrenal fatigue on top of it. So, the flagyl just about killed me. It was prescribed by a totally parasite ignorant doctor after I took the initiative to get a GI test on my own and brought him the results and the treatment protocol. I just was not able to handle 10 days of Flagyl at 750mg/day. I quit after day 4. At about that time, I got a new out of state thyroid doctor and was put on all T3, and low dose cortef. Over the next few months, my health improved greatly, except that I still had the bug. ! I visited a new doctor to see what other meds I could take for the amoeba. He ran blood tests and determined that I no longer had it. Well, others more knowledgeable informed me that blood tests were not good indicators whether I did or didn't still have this infection. I came to the conclusion that I still had it because I knew I was not right. Histolytica is a nasty parasite that bores into the intestinal lumen and other soft tissue (liver, brain) and hides. It also produces copious amounts of infective cysts. It makes substances that turn off the immune system. I live in an area where these type of parasite infections are fairly unknown by doctors and doctors are woefully ignorant. I knew I would not likely get help from any local or statewide doc and there was only one other approved medication available to me that was very nasty. So, I needed a systemic drug that would get these hiders as well as something to kill the cysts. I decided to order Tinidazole from overseas. It is not approved here in the US because the drug companies have decided it won't be profitable. It kills the amoeba and cysts in just 3 days, which is much more tolerable for sick people. It must be followed with another antibiotic (paromomycin, Iodoquinol, or Yodoxin) for 2 weeks to 20 days in order to take care of the remaining cysts. I was n! ot able to get any of these others. So, I happened on a product called Silver Clove, which contains colloidal silver, berberine (known to kill amoeba) and a few other things. I used that for a 3 weeks, while I waited for the tinidazole to arrive and I had pretty good results. Then after taking the tinidazole I continued using Silver Clove for over a week. Now, I am using a 500ppm colloidal silver preparation alone on the second week after the tinidazole. I sure hope this kills the cysts or I will be very unhappy. 3 days of Tinidazole is quite toxic enough. I'm not keen at all on doing it again. So, what I was wondering is: Does anyone know how good colloidal silver is at killing cysts of amoebic dysintery? Also, I am wondering what it does to healthy gut flora. One of the things that I need to do is reestablish
Re: CSNew to list
Welcome to the list. Hope this helps fill in the info-gap: I've had excellent results with killing and controlling amoebas and other parasites, and live in an area (Southern Mexico) where they are common food contaminants, as well as salmonella, e.coli, and others (bad shrimp, bay oysters, etc.) I've killed all of the above with CS, a potent variety sold OTC all over Mexico, in industrial strength dosages for extended periods of time, with no adverse intestinal conditions. (Certainly not as bad as the conditions the CS is preventing, anyway. A little acididolphilus never hurts either.) As to whether CS will kill the amoeba cysts themselves, I am uncertain, but I would suspect the answer is yes. It will kill all amoebas as they hatch, breaking the cycle they create in your body. I have been so effective in control of these intestinal parasites, through daily doses of CS, that I have not suffered a single incident in five years, nor have I had a single case of dengue fever during that same time, which I used to get about 2-3 times a year. - Original Message - From: Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS] lkwet...@iastate.edu To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: CSNew to list Hello, I have been investigating colloidal silver lately after a long journey with entomoeba histolytica and other health problems, especially in the last year. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism (have been hypo for years but ignored), adrenal hypofunction, and entomoeba histolytica infection. I was treated for the amoeba with flagyl a month after the thyroid diagnosis which was a disastrous health period of beginning the wrong kind of thyroid therapy and not getting any treatment for adrenal fatigue on top of it. So, the flagyl just about killed me. It was prescribed by a totally parasite ignorant doctor after I took the initiative to get a GI test on my own and brought him the results and the treatment protocol. I just was not able to handle 10 days of Flagyl at 750mg/day. I quit after day 4. At about that time, I got a new out of state thyroid doctor and was put on all T3, and low dose cortef. Over the next few months, my health improved greatly, except that I still had the bug. ! I visited a new doctor to see what other meds I could take for the amoeba. He ran blood tests and determined that I no longer had it. Well, others more knowledgeable informed me that blood tests were not good indicators whether I did or didn't still have this infection. I came to the conclusion that I still had it because I knew I was not right. Histolytica is a nasty parasite that bores into the intestinal lumen and other soft tissue (liver, brain) and hides. It also produces copious amounts of infective cysts. It makes substances that turn off the immune system. I live in an area where these type of parasite infections are fairly unknown by doctors and doctors are woefully ignorant. I knew I would not likely get help from any local or statewide doc and there was only one other approved medication available to me that was very nasty. So, I needed a systemic drug that would get these hiders as well as something to kill the cysts. I decided to order Tinidazole from overseas. It is not approved here in the US because the drug companies have decided it won't be profitable. It kills the amoeba and cysts in just 3 days, which is much more tolerable for sick people. It must be followed with another antibiotic (paromomycin, Iodoquinol, or Yodoxin) for 2 weeks to 20 days in order to take care of the remaining cysts. I was n! ot able to get any of these others. So, I happened on a product called Silver Clove, which contains colloidal silver, berberine (known to kill amoeba) and a few other things. I used that for a 3 weeks, while I waited for the tinidazole to arrive and I had pretty good results. Then after taking the tinidazole I continued using Silver Clove for over a week. Now, I am using a 500ppm colloidal silver preparation alone on the second week after the tinidazole. I sure hope this kills the cysts or I will be very unhappy. 3 days of Tinidazole is quite toxic enough. I'm not keen at all on doing it again. So, what I was wondering is: Does anyone know how good colloidal silver is at killing cysts of amoebic dysintery? Also, I am wondering what it does to healthy gut flora. One of the things that I need to do is reestablish healthy life forms in the gut. I've read that people use it all the time. Does this affect nutrient uptake, since some life forms are needed for good digestion and digestive tract health? It is claimed it will control yeast, but I have read one person's personal account who did not get yeast control. This scares me as to whether then it really is totally effective against amoeba cysts. Thanks Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:
Re: CSNew to list Lyme Disease
Hope, thank you so much for the honest reply. I never really thought CS alone would cure me. I am beyond the pill, or single anything mentality. I am trying my best to live a well and normal life and help my children to grow and prosper. I am growing and juicing Wheatgrass, and pulling a fast one on the children with my water. I am buying water in five gallon jugs with a cooler. I am putting in Hydrogen Peroxide and Willards Water, I am considering adding silver. Then I just need to monitor the water intake. I also use a Rife machine, though not like I should. My goal is to stay off anti-biotics. I just ended a 14 week IV session which I desperately needed. The awful thing about being sick is you spend all your time searching how to get well. I am about to quit being sick and caring so much about it. I am going to be well. Thanks again. Bernadette - Original Message - From: Hope hope0...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:46 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to list Lyme Disease Hi Bernadette--I have Lyme, CFIDS, and FM. I tried both store bought silver, 40 ppm from Allergy Research Group, and 400 ppm by the same manufacturer who sells it himself--a naturopathic doctor in TX. Then I bought my own CSPro system that made about 18 ppm and drank several cups daily of it for 3 or 4 months. The only time I had what I considered a herx was on the 400 ppm stuff. I know that several people claim to have cured their Lyme with CS but I have heard many more stories of those who haven't. It didn't help me and I was worrying about the silver build up in my system and it was staining my teeth brown. I am only back on this list at present because I want to sell my CSPro cs. machine. I happened to see your post. Not to discourage you but frankly I don't feel that cs is the cure, not there is one for Lyme. Basically I think it can only be managed. Success with cs may depend on how long you have had Lyme and what other things you are doing. (I searched both the archives of this silver list as well as several Lyme lists to look for positives on cs--there were maybe only 4 or 5 who said they thought it helped out of the dozens of people who had tried it.)Hope (Lyme since childhood--diagnosed several years ago) --- mamapug mama...@netzero.net wrote: Hello, I am new to the list and I have been told that many have been cured of Lyme Disease. Has anyone had Lyme in the Brain and been cured? I am interested in long standing, chronic Lyme cases, cures, and how your testing was prior to the cure. Thank you in advance for your help. Bernadette Dear Bernadette, I`m one! I had Lyme for almost 6 years. I lost my gallbladder, and still have some permanent brain damage, which makes me feel like my feet are mostly numb. That I can live with. The CS cured me when doxy couldn`t. If you`d like to hear my complete story, send me a private email. Marshalee, in Provo, Utah -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: CSNew to List Seeking info
From: Keith Pittman pittcollo...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:44:10 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List Seeking info Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:48:14 -0700 Keith wrote: Hi Jack, I recently got a pre-calibrated TDS meter. My water starts at 1 PPM Hi Keith, When you said you were using a TDS meter to determine ppm I immediately thought of a post from back in May. You should find it interesting. Jack * Date: Wednesday,May 29,2002 10:32 AM Subject: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM Hi James, I don't mean to jump in when you addressed the post to Dean but the fact is that the PWT reads CS much better than the TDS-1 for several reasons as pointed out on our website. Also, you do NOT divide by half when using the PWT. You ADD to the reading. In the case of our generators you add 20%. Hanna is right in telling you to cut the reading in half IF you're measuring dissolved solids such as minerals in the water. However, we as CS users are interested in measuring the content of CS to determine what silver content we have. In this case the meter only measures the ionic portion of CS. And that reading is always less than the total amount of silver content because the meter will NOT read the colloidal portion. Therefore one has to add to the reading to get the total PPM. The correction factor will be the difference between how much of the mix was colloidal versus ionic. We have had our CS analyzed by atomic absorption spectrophotometry and it is generally always the same ratio. Another thing I forgot to mention is the fact that the TDS-1 has an accuracy tolerance of + - 2% of full scale. Since the TDS-1 reads from 0-999 that's + - 20 PPM. Since the PWT reads from 0-99.9 and has the same percentage of accuracy that's + - 2 PPM. And the PWT gives you a decimal point in the reading while the TDS-1 reads in whole numbers only. I hope this helps clear up some of the controversy about the TDS-1 versus the PWT. The PWT is the best choice hands down for measuring PPM. Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List Seeking info
From: Keith Pittman pittcollo...@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:31:23 -0500 Subject: Re: CSNew to List Seeking info Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:35:17 -0700 Hi Keith, In your reply to Corbin about making CS you wrote: I would recommend a low voltage DC constant current generator I use the SG6. Have you determined what ppm you are producing - in how much time - where do you have the dial set? I also use the SG6 set midrange - and get shut off in about 90 minutes with a 2oz spike from a previous batch in 42oz of DW. TIA Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List Seeking info
Jack said: Have you determined what ppm you are producing - in how much time - where do you have the dial set? I also use the SG6 set midrange - and get shut off in about 90 minutes with a 2oz spike from a previous batch in 42oz of DW. Hi Jack, I recently got a pre-calibrated TDS meter. My water starts at 1 PPM. I removed the bottom part of the stir stick that looks like a plus sign, added a plastic spoon and started making a gallon at a time. I have to set it around 8/10ths to get make sure it gets over 5 PPM with a gallon of water. It takes about 7 or 8 hours. But unless you are making a lot of CS, you don't need to make that much at a time. I have one customer that is keeping me very busy. I make 20 ounce bottles. At first he got 1, then 10, 12, 16, 95, and now he wants 100. I may have to get the SG7 soon. I am also going to make my own solar water distiller soon. If you make 16 ounces at a time, you should get about 5 PPM on the low setting and 15 PPM on the high setting. When I was making around 48 ounces at a time, it was taking around 3 hours with it set around 3/10ths. I usually don't prime my batches with CS since I can't make more than 2 batches a day either way. Sincerely, Keith Pittman Computer Programmer by day - CS maker by night -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List Seeking info
corbin said: I am trying to start up a Collidal Silver Production mini business, and am looking for information on the following cheep labels cheep brown bottles High Voltage AC collidal makers where to get em? will accept used if anyone wants to sell. and how to seal tops of bottles? Hi Corbin, 1. Labels, I don't know yet. 2. Bottles and seals, try http://www.specialtybottle.com 3. colloidal makers, I would recommend a low voltage DC constant current generator. My customers have told me that they have the following results using the CS I make using constant current generator: Sore throats, ear infections, warts, Acne, 2 cases of Arthritis, diaper rash, an eight year old genital heat rash, burns, cuts heal faster, yeast infection, mosquito bites, spider bites, a ten year old toe fungus, plant fungus, eye infections, flea bites, mouthwash, after shave, food preservation, cut flowers, water purification, pet's eye infection, allergies, nebulizer breathing treatments, poison ivy, Kidney infection, etc... Links for Constant Current Generators: www.silvergen.com (I use the SG6) http://silverpuppy.com/page1b.html www.wishgranted.com 4. .999 . Silver electrodes try www.ccsilver.com Sincerely, Keith Pittman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List Seeking info
specialtybottle.com has good quantity prices on bottles At 07:43 PM 9/11/02 -0700, you wrote: I am trying to start up a Collidal Silver Production mini business, and am looking for information on the following cheep labels cheep brown bottles High Voltage AC collidal makers where to get em? will accept used if anyone wants to sell. and how to seal tops of bottles? I dont want to stay on this list very long, util i perfect my product... cause I am subscribed to other lsits and get 100 email a day as it is. corbin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to list (HIV+)
I suspect that being a medical worker, you wholeheartedly believe in the HIV/AIDS connection and have not touched arguments presented against the connection. However, if you are open to considering other possibilities, I'd recommend that you peruse material at the following sites: - http://www.duesberg.com/ - http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/slanka.htm - http://www.virusmyth.net For a lot of stuff on restoring/improving immune function, be sure to see the Keep Hope Alive site - http://www.execpc.com/~keephope/keephope.html Roman nebmi...@aol.com wrote: Greetings all, I've spent the overwhelming majority of my weekend researching information on colloidal silver. I stumbled onto information about CS purely by accident, but as someone who tested positive for the HIV virus about a year ago (infected through an occupational exposure as an emergency medical technician), I am more than intrigued by the possibilities! I've concluded that producing my own CS is the way to go... and therein lies my dilemma. With all of the conflicting information regarding methods, quality, etc., I guess you could say I'm here in hopes that someone might be able to debunk some of the information for me. I have but a rudimentary knowledge of chemistry and electronics, so, while I can follow some of the technical discussion, much of it does require more schooling than I have had. I suppose you could say that I'm here looking for the golden-egg... detailed instructions (yet also decipherable by a novice) for how to assemble a 'generator' (including an equipment list) and detailed instructions on how to go about producing quality CS. Being new to the list, I'm sure this topic has already been hashed and rehashed, but any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Responding to my personal email account (nebmi...@aol.com) is also acceptable if you choose to save band-width on the list. Thanks in advance!!! Mike B. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to list (HIV+)
From: nebmi...@aol.com Subject: CSNew to list (HIV+) Being new to the list, I'm sure this topic has already been hashed and rehashed, but any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Responding to my personal email account (nebmi...@aol.com) is also acceptable if you choose to save band-width on the list. I will suggest buying a generator - there are so many variables involved with a home-built unit. Check the following sites http://www.silverpuppy.com/ http://silvergen.com/ and,oh yes, read what you find there - lots of info also. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to list (HIV+)
Mike all you really need is 2 pieces of .999 or . silver(wire, strips, or coins), a couple wires with alligator clips on the end, 3 9V batteries, a glass container, and distilled water. I'd recommend limiting or regulating current with a resistor or an LM317T for info on the LM317T go to: http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM317.html I use 3mA max current someone posted a formula for optimum current for surface area of electrodes but I don't have that email marked to easily find it if you do decide to make your own generator can be as simple or complicated as you want to make it. I know you've made the right choice by looking into CS I've knocked out colds in days with it when other people I know that have had the same thing were sick for weeks. when used on cuts redness goes away and they heal faster with no/less scarring. I've used it on burns and pain went away in 15-20 mins healed completely in 2-3 days with no scars. My wife has Hepatitis C and she has alot more energy when she drinks a couple glasses of CS a day. If you want any more info let me know. Sincerely Joseph Fritz At 02:22 AM 7/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: Greetings all, I suppose you could say that I'm here looking for the golden-egg... detailed instructions (yet also decipherable by a novice) for how to assemble a 'generator' (including an equipment list) and detailed instructions on how to go about producing quality CS. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to list with many cs questions
Of course, above all else, I want to do no harm to any of us. However, in my searches I haven't really found ANYTHING or anyone that posted any limits to the amount of cs to take (humans and cats), or how it can be harmful. I plan to make my own, a method that is supposed to be about 18ppm. Is there a maximum amount of cs that should be taken? Is there a level that can be toxic to humans (or cats!)? # You would more likly drown before reaching anywhere near a toxic level at 18 PPM..or 50PPM for that matter. Cats and dogs prefer CS water over plain water. I've given my cats about an oz of 25PPM per day for years [4 cats] with only positive effect. Some people talked about adjusting it according to weight, but I didn't see any ratios recommended. What is contraindicated? Are there any medications that it could interfere with? ## Don't worry. There is no 'too much'. No known [or even suspected] interactions. Does anyone have suggestions on how to give it to my cat? I thought about simply substituting it for the water bowl, but other cats are drinking out of it too and I would much prefer to be able to monitor the amount she is getting anyway. ## I mix it with wet food Is there a way to actually measure the ppm in the cs, is this even necessary or recommended? How often do the wires need replacing and how do you know when they should be? Does it taste bad, or is it pallitable? Here's a funny question, is it painful on the teeth - like if you touch aluminum foil to a filling? Eeeoowwwhhh ;-) ## Might have a metallic flavor if over 5 PPM..and makes all the plaque and tarter literally fall off the teeth. It might even seal and strengthen amalgum fillings. So far, exceptionally good at the dentists. So good, in fact, he is puzzled and insists that I am dosing heavy with the precription flouride he gave me. [NOT...not one little bit and I'm on well water too...no flouride] Ken Wow, that's a whole lot of information I'm requesting, hope you all are up to the challenge! Leacy Peace GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to list with many cs questions
That is great to hear about plaque and tarter literally falling off the teeth. Guess I will keep spraying my dogs' teeth and my own with it every night until I see those results. Way cheaper and less stressful than going to the vets. Thanks Ken for that piece of info! Josephine Does it taste bad, or is it pallitable? Here's a funny question, is it painful on the teeth - like if you touch aluminum foil to a filling? Eeeoowwwhhh ;-) ## Might have a metallic flavor if over 5 PPM..and makes all the plaque and tarter literally fall off the teeth. Ken Wow, that's a whole lot of information I'm requesting, hope you all are up to the challenge! Leacy Peace GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to list
Hello Hope, I make, sell, and use myself, a really simple 9 volt CS generator. Thanks Tony! Seems the procedures are as varied at the uses. : ) I've also read that some use boiling h20. Guess I'll just have to expirament. (my house is full of those ; - ) The only way to really find the strength is to have it analysed. I'm sure that if you contact Ole Bob at Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net he will be able to run a test for you. Oh raaally? Ohle Bob?!? -- Warmly, Hope, TEEHB http://www.madmacr8r.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I would also try Aloe Vera concentrate - one of the better brands like Lametco. It is supposed to be very good against feline luekemia according to studies done by Texas ANM(?) it was 100% efficacious (source: Lee ritter). - Original Message - From: Hope Martin madmac...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 28 July 2001 1:43 Subject: CSNew to list Hello! My name is Hope and I'm new to this list and to CSW in general. What brings me here is my 6 month old kitten who has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia virus. I found a website that documents using CSW (among other things) for FeLV + cats so I've decided to try it. Buddy has no symptoms as of yet. I hope it is OK to jump right in with questions ; - ) Does anyone use just 9volt batteries as a generator? I've been reading descriptions of how to set up 3 or 4 and connects the silver wire to them. If someone here does...do you know what kind of ppm do you get? I don't want to overdose the little guy! He's not that big.If no one uses those, what type of generator do you use? My budget is a big fat zero! Sigh.But where there's a will, there's a way! And I'm sure it would still be less than a blood transfusion!!! ; - ) Guess that's 'nuf questions fer now. Thanks for reading this far. I'm looking forward to learning more about this intriguing elixir! : )) -- Warmly, Hope, TEEHB http://www.madmacr8r.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hello Hope, I make, sell, and use myself, a really simple 9 volt CS generator. I think it would be difficult to overdose on CS. You are likely to drown or waterlog the animal before endangering it with the amount of CS given. With the 9 volt generator my instructions are to use for 3 to 5 minutes per 250 ml (1 cup) with plain tap water or filtered water, and to use for 40 to 60 minutes using distilled water. That is enough. Stronger is not necessarily better and weaker will also work well. Many in this group say that constant stirring should make a better product. The only way to really find the strength is to have it analysed. I'm sure that if you contact Ole Bob at Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net he will be able to run a test for you. Tony Hope Martin wrote: Hello! My name is Hope and I'm new to this list and to CSW in general. What brings me here is my 6 month old kitten who has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia virus. I found a website that documents using CSW (among other things) for FeLV + cats so I've decided to try it. Buddy has no symptoms as of yet. I hope it is OK to jump right in with questions ; - ) Does anyone use just 9volt batteries as a generator? I've been reading descriptions of how to set up 3 or 4 and connects the silver wire to them. If someone here does...do you know what kind of ppm do you get? I don't want to overdose the little guy! He's not that big.If no one uses those, what type of generator do you use? My budget is a big fat zero! Sigh.But where there's a will, there's a way! And I'm sure it would still be less than a blood transfusion!!! ; - ) Guess that's 'nuf questions fer now. Thanks for reading this far. I'm looking forward to learning more about this intriguing elixir! : )) -- Warmly, Hope, TEEHB http://www.madmacr8r.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew to list. .. .M.S. inquiry
Welcome Elliott, You might like to look here for high quality zappers etc : http://www.annexmfg.com/index2.html Have a look at laser and LED light therapy also : It is very easy to make your own CS generator, or there are very good cheap units available, but any zapper will do at a pinch. Suggest you do a lot of reading before you purchase... the archives as found in the tag below is a good start. Regards Ivan. - Original Message - From: sava...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2000 19:23 Subject: CSnew to list. .. .M.S. inquiry Hello list. I'm new. I'm a chiropractor in Florida with a keen (albeit new) interest in bioelectronics (Rife, etc.) and natural remedies. I'd value input on what may be working for the elimination of the fatigue of M.S. and multiple chemical sensitivity. I'm considering purchasing an advanced 'zapper' type unit from Bruce Stenulson that includes a colloidal silver maker. Since I am new to this stuff, I'm still researching. Seems everyone claims their machine/method is best. (ie. Beck, Bare, Clark, etc.) Any insights will be appreciated. Thanks, Elliott Krakow -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List
Hi Jeannie, Keep in touch with me. Did you know evening primrose can increase estrogen? Some women may not want to do that.I Also, did you say you were on Lyme-AID? An MD seems to think some MS cases may be Lyme. Also, I am also rifing. I can tell you more later if you want. I have had MS symptoms and their is even a family history of it but they seem to be getting better. I a recently started doing freqs on the rife machine for lyme in addition to the other ones i was doing. Christy a message dated 6/5/00 9:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jean...@karlster.com writes: Subj: RE: CSNew to List Date: 6/5/00 9:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: jean...@karlster.com (Jeannie) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hi Christy... I was using only 10ppm two times per day. It took about 2 months for me to start really feeling its affects. Although I was also taking a number of other supplements, some of which I have returned to, such as pantothenic acid (up to 1500 mg/day), CoQ10, primrose oil, calcium/magnesium supplement, garlic tablets, B-complex, flax seed, and fish oils. A nurse practitioner who knows about these problems also believes that it's probably CNS Lyme. The only thing is that when this 'episode' started similar symptoms began, but showed themselves in slightly different ways. Because of my long term experience with this, it completely threw me. I will have to wait and see. But I certainly won't sit back and wait. Thanks for the message. Jeannie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Christy...I'd like to keep in touch with you because you seem to have a wealth of information regarding this stuff. What is rifing. Also, I'm not on Lyme-Aid...what is that? I didn't know that primrose increased estrogen, although I'm reaching the age when I need to be concerned about estrogen level. Great - another thing to have to worry about. LOL Jeannie -Original Message- From: ritz3...@aol.com [mailto:ritz3...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 3:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List Hi Jeannie, Keep in touch with me. Did you know evening primrose can increase estrogen? Some women may not want to do that.I Also, did you say you were on Lyme-AID? An MD seems to think some MS cases may be Lyme. Also, I am also rifing. I can tell you more later if you want. I have had MS symptoms and their is even a family history of it but they seem to be getting better. I a recently started doing freqs on the rife machine for lyme in addition to the other ones i was doing. Christy a message dated 6/5/00 9:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jean...@karlster.com writes: Subj: RE: CSNew to List Date: 6/5/00 9:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: jean...@karlster.com (Jeannie) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hi Christy... I was using only 10ppm two times per day. It took about 2 months for me to start really feeling its affects. Although I was also taking a number of other supplements, some of which I have returned to, such as pantothenic acid (up to 1500 mg/day), CoQ10, primrose oil, calcium/magnesium supplement, garlic tablets, B-complex, flax seed, and fish oils. A nurse practitioner who knows about these problems also believes that it's probably CNS Lyme. The only thing is that when this 'episode' started similar symptoms began, but showed themselves in slightly different ways. Because of my long term experience with this, it completely threw me. I will have to wait and see. But I certainly won't sit back and wait. Thanks for the message. Jeannie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List
In a message dated 06/07/2000 10:22:31 AM Central Daylight Time, jean...@karlster.com writes: Also, I am also rifing. I can tell you more later if you want. ^ Christy, Do you own a machine or just have access to one? Isn't that what Arnold Palmer used? Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List
-Original Message- From: Jeannie Kiefer [mailto:jean...@karlster.com] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew to List It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Jeannie Jeannie, Thank you for writing again. Since CS has a fabulous track record in being safe no matter what (provided it's made correctly), I can't imagine that it would hurt you even if you did have Multiple Sclerosis. However, even better, your question the second time jogged my memory and I remember reading theories stating that a viral infection in the spinal cord is implicated in MS -- so whether it's MS or Lyme's, it may not matter in some ways. Take CS and you'll likely improve, especially since you improved the first time. Dr. Donsbach has a book, by the way, on treating MS with nutrients and oils. You might want to check it out. Good luck. Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List-Aspartame
- Original Message - From: Alvin Rose ar...@nf.sympatico.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:56 AM Subject: Re: CSNew to List Jeannie have you looked at the idea that you may have aspertame poisoning..I understand the symptoms are close to MS etc. Diet pepsi and coke and some artificial sweetners such as nutrasweet contain aspertame..said to be a very dangerous chemical which acumulates in areas of the body and is difficult to undo. There is information in the archives on this list. so with a little searching you can find it...Maybe Mike can tell you where it is. A.Rose Look on the web for MISSION POSSIBLE. It has tons of documentation. --Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Nina, Thank you so much for your reply...I really appreciate the info... especially about the viral possibility with MS and the reference to the book. Thanks again Jeannie -Original Message- From: Nina Silver, Ph.D. [mailto:n...@bestweb.net] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List -Original Message- From: Jeannie Kiefer [mailto:jean...@karlster.com] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew to List It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Jeannie Jeannie, Thank you for writing again. Since CS has a fabulous track record in being safe no matter what (provided it's made correctly), I can't imagine that it would hurt you even if you did have Multiple Sclerosis. However, even better, your question the second time jogged my memory and I remember reading theories stating that a viral infection in the spinal cord is implicated in MS -- so whether it's MS or Lyme's, it may not matter in some ways. Take CS and you'll likely improve, especially since you improved the first time. Dr. Donsbach has a book, by the way, on treating MS with nutrients and oils. You might want to check it out. Good luck. Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNew to List
Alvin Thank you so much for the info I never knew about the aspartame thing although I have always been very suspicious of that and nutrasweet. Therefore, I dont take anything (at least consciously) with that in it and also dont let my kids have anything with those substances. But I will check that lead out ..thanks again. Jeannie -Original Message- From: Alvin Rose [mailto:ar...@nf.sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List Jeannie have you looked at the idea that you may have aspertame poisoning..I understand the symptoms are close to MS etc. Diet pepsi and coke and some artificial sweetners such as nutrasweet contain aspertame..said to be a very dangerous chemical which acumulates in areas of the body and is difficult to undo. There is information in the archives on this list. so with a little searching you can find it...Maybe Mike can tell you where it is. A.Rose Jeannie wrote: Im saying hello again, as I never got a response to my original post.What a way to greet a new poster.I would be nice if someone responded, even if it were to say they didnt know the answer. -Original Message- From: Jeannie Kiefer [ mailto:jean...@karlster.com] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew to List Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Thank you and good health to all of you, Jeannie
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Thanks Liz...I'm in the same boat with my daughter as well (although I think she may have escaped any permanent or malingering damage - at least I hope) Yes, I have been inundated with posts, however, I am on a quest to find answers (as I'm sure we all are) where conventional medicine stops. I'm very thankful for sites like this because otherwise we would very much be in the dark. Thanks again, Jeannie -Original Message- From: lfzbiz...@aol.com [mailto:lfzbiz...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 6:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List Hey, Jeannie! May you be inundated with posts, as I have! I have Lyme and so does my daughter, so feel free to e-mail me directly! lfzbiz...@aol.com Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNew to List
Diane, Thanks for your responseA. Rose also brought up aspartame or nutrasweet as possible culprits...I have always tried to stay away from these additives; of course it's difficult sometimes when an entire society throws this stuff in without thought. However, I have developed severe food allergies, which can also have a very similar affect on one's immune system. I don't know if anyone else has run into this, but I'm going to try a Detox Diet. Maybe others have had similar things happen to them. Thanks again, Jeannie -Original Message- From: d.linen [mailto:li...@flash.net] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 12:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List Welcome Jeannie, Jeannie wrote: Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. I'm not familiar with symptoms of Lyme disease. Are these a part of the symptoms? It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? I don't think it will hurt you and it could help. There are many who take CS who also have Lyme Disease. I'd like to ask if in the past or even now have you ingested aspartame/Nutrasweet? We recently had a discussion about MS symptoms and aspartame. I'm sorry you didn't get answers to your questions. I'm glad you are here anyway because someone may have experienced similar problems as you have and may be able to be of help to you. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List
Jeannie have you looked at the idea that you may have aspertame poisoning..I understand the symptoms are close to MS etc. Diet pepsi and coke and some artificial sweetners such as nutrasweet contain aspertame..said to be a very dangerous chemical which acumulates in areas of the body and is difficult to undo. There is information in the archives on this list. so with a little searching you can find it...Maybe Mike can tell you where it is. A.Rose Jeannie wrote: Im saying hello again, as I never got a response to my original post.What a way to greet a new poster.I would be nice if someone responded, even if it were to say they didnt know the answer. -Original Message- From: Jeannie Kiefer [mailto:jean...@karlster.com] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew to List Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Thank you and good health to all of you, Jeannie
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check out http://dorway.com/ Marshall Jeannie wrote: Alvin Thank you so much for the info I never knew about the aspartame thing although I have always been very suspicious of that and nutrasweet.Therefore, I dont take anything (at least consciously) with that in it and also dont let my kids have anything with those substances.But I will check that lead out ..thanks again. Jeannie -Original Message- From: Alvin Rose [mailto:ar...@nf.sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List Jeannie have you looked at the idea that you may have aspertame poisoning..I understand the symptoms are close to MS etc. Diet pepsi and coke and some artificial sweetners such as nutrasweet contain aspertame..said to be a very dangerous chemical which acumulates in areas of the body and is difficult to undo. There is information in the archives on this list. so with a little searching you can find it...Maybe Mike can tell you where it is. A.Rose Jeannie wrote: Im saying hello again, as I never got a response to my original post.What a way to greet a new poster.I would be nice if someone responded, even if it were to say they didnt know the answer. -Original Message- From: Jeannie Kiefer [mailto:jean...@karlster.com] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew to List Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Thank you and good health to all of you, Jeannie
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I'm saying hello again, as I never got a response to my original post. What a way to greet a new poster. I would be nice if someone responded, even if it were to say they didn't know the answer. Dear Jeannie, Hi! I learned that often the folks aren`t too busy on this thing on the weekends! Too busy doing other weekendy stuff! Anyway, welcome, and I hope the CS will help you as well as it did me! I don`t know about CS and MS. My sister has it, but she won`t take CS internally, just for a skin fungus, the idjit! Marsha
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Hi Jeannie, You should check out the symptoms and the problems caused by aspertame..also I fail to understand why more people with serious problems are not checking out the Bob Beck devices. .I think that by using the four protocols it's possible to cure any disease or problem..I built and use them and have had great success with them...The blood purifier and magnetic pulser togeather can do wonderful things for serious diseases ...all that is required is to use the devices until you are well...using Colloidal Silver also to prop up the immune system..It worked so well for me that I still find it hard to believe..and thank God for colloidal Silver..It keeps me in shape. A.Rose Marshall Dudley wrote: check out http://dorway.com/ Marshall Jeannie wrote: Alvin Thank you so much for the info I never knew about the aspartame thing although I have always been very suspicious of that and nutrasweet.Therefore, I dont take anything (at least consciously) with that in it and also dont let my kids have anything with those substances.But I will check that lead out ..thanks again. Jeannie -Original Message- From: Alvin Rose [mailto:ar...@nf.sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List Jeannie have you looked at the idea that you may have aspertame poisoning..I understand the symptoms are close to MS etc. Diet pepsi and coke and some artificial sweetners such as nutrasweet contain aspertame..said to be a very dangerous chemical which acumulates in areas of the body and is difficult to undo. There is information in the archives on this list. so with a little searching you can find it...Maybe Mike can tell you where it is. A.Rose Jeannie wrote: Im saying hello again, as I never got a response to my original post.What a way to greet a new poster.I would be nice if someone responded, even if it were to say they didnt know the answer. -Original Message- From: Jeannie Kiefer [mailto:jean...@karlster.com] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew to List Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Thank you and good health to all of you, Jeannie
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Hi Jeannie, I would assume its probably CNS Lyme. That's great the success you had with CS in the past. I would go back to that and stay on it. Can I ask what ppm you used and what dose? Thanks, Christy In a message dated 6/5/00 4:30:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ar...@nf.sympatico.ca writes: Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Thank you and good health to all of you, Jeannie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Christy... I was using only 10ppm two times per day. It took about 2 months for me to start really feeling its affects. Although I was also taking a number of other supplements, some of which I have returned to, such as pantothenic acid (up to 1500 mg/day), CoQ10, primrose oil, calcium/magnesium supplement, garlic tablets, B-complex, flax seed, and fish oils. A nurse practitioner who knows about these problems also believes that it's probably CNS Lyme. The only thing is that when this 'episode' started similar symptoms began, but showed themselves in slightly different ways. Because of my long term experience with this, it completely threw me. I will have to wait and see. But I certainly won't sit back and wait. Thanks for the message. Jeannie -Original Message- From: ritz3...@aol.com [mailto:ritz3...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew to List Hi Jeannie, I would assume its probably CNS Lyme. That's great the success you had with CS in the past. I would go back to that and stay on it. Can I ask what ppm you used and what dose? Thanks, Christy In a message dated 6/5/00 4:30:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ar...@nf.sympatico.ca writes: Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Thank you and good health to all of you, Jeannie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Im saying hello again, as I never got a response to my original post. What a way to greet a new poster. I would be nice if someone responded, even if it were to say they didnt know the answer. -Original Message- From: Jeannie Kiefer [mailto:jean...@karlster.com] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew to List Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Thank you and good health to all of you, Jeannie
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hi jeannie I am new also. I don't know much but I am glad you had good results. I have a friend with chronic lyme. Is your that way also? Anyhow just didn't want you to feel so all alone... here. wayne realw...@webtv.net RealWort's Instant Pager
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Welcome Jeannie, Jeannie wrote: Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. I'm not familiar with symptoms of Lyme disease. Are these a part of the symptoms? It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? I don't think it will hurt you and it could help. There are many who take CS who also have Lyme Disease. I'd like to ask if in the past or even now have you ingested aspartame/Nutrasweet? We recently had a discussion about MS symptoms and aspartame. I'm sorry you didn't get answers to your questions. I'm glad you are here anyway because someone may have experienced similar problems as you have and may be able to be of help to you. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Please sign me up, Vilik. Vilik Rapheles wrote: pH-bodybalance... A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and experimenting with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health will be starting in the fall. All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people welcome as well as total newbies. To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it starts. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Sign me up for the ph group, please thanks, Al -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Yes pls sign me up too for the ph group - Original Message - From: CARMEN SPENCE starwo...@primus.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 7:18 AM Subject: Re: CSNEW pH list starting... Hi Vilik, I would like tobe signed up for the poh list also, Thankyou \, Carmen - Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:39 AM Subject: CSNEW pH list starting... pH-bodybalance... A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and experimenting with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health will be starting in the fall. All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people welcome as well as total newbies. To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it starts. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net Dear sir, Please sign me up for your New pH list. With regards, Lew (Malaysia) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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- Original Message - From: CARMEN SPENCE starwo...@primus.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 7:18 AM Subject: Re: CSNEW pH list starting... Hi Vilik, I would like tobe signed up for the poh list also, Thankyou \, Carmen - Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:39 AM Subject: CSNEW pH list starting... pH-bodybalance... A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and experimenting with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health will be starting in the fall. All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people welcome as well as total newbies. To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it starts. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net Dear sir, Please sign me up for your New pH list. With regards, Lew (Malaysia) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Please let me know when the PH list starts. -Original Message- From: Vilik Rapheles [SMTP:vi...@peak.org] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 4:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNEW pH list starting... pH-bodybalance... A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and experimenting with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health will be starting in the fall. All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people welcome as well as total newbies. To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it starts. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Dear Vilik, Please put me on the PH list. Love Always, Deborah Sais Vilik Rapheles wrote: pH-bodybalance... A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and experimenting with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health will be starting in the fall. All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people welcome as well as total newbies. To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it starts. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Hi Vilik, I would like tobe signed up for the poh list also, Thankyou \, Carmen - Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:39 AM Subject: CSNEW pH list starting... pH-bodybalance... A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and experimenting with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health will be starting in the fall. All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people welcome as well as total newbies. To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it starts. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
