Re: [SLUG] HOWTO make a Ubuntu Live CD
Thanks to all who replied. Five useful answers in under 6 Hours. The SLUG mailing list is a very valuable resource. In the end I followed the procedure found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCreator and was able to achieve exactly what I wanted. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] HOWTO make a Ubuntu Live CD
Hi, I would like to make a Ubuntu live CD. That is to say a CD similar to the usual installation CD but with the installer stripped out. The CDs would be used in a classroom where I don't want students actually installing Ubuntu just running it from the CD. I haven't (yet) found out how to do this. Do any sluggers have any pointers? cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Networking dropouts on Bigpond cable.
Can anyone explain the what is going on here? I recently built my son a new computer running Ubuntu 7.04. He connects to the internet via Bigpond cable. The cable modem feeds a router and the computer connects to the router via ethernet. (Also tried connecting without the router) Connection to the internet is established OK but sometimes drops out every few minutes and reconnects itself. I have a copy of the daemon.log but find it confusing. I have not attached it to this email as it is about 400kBytes. If any knowledgeable kind soul would care to take a look I will forward a copy but didn't want to burden the whole list. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Running Google Earth in Ubuntu
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 21:10 +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:05 +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 06:05 +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: fglrx won't give you direct rendering on 9200 whatsoever.. they stopped supporting that card a long time ago.. the open source driver should support that card in feisty fine.. glxinfo should give direct rendering... does glxgears run? Does the system lockup completely? do you have any fancy AGP options enabled in the logs..? does adding Option CardType PCI to the driver section in xorg.conf make any difference? Attached is my xorg.conf file and a file glxinfo.txt containing the output of glxinfo. glxgears runs slowly and jerkily unless the window is small. The computer does not lock solid when I try to run googleearth but as that program seems to take about 95% of the CPU time not much else happens! I cant see mention of AGP in the xorg.conf file, in which log file should I look. (As you have no doubt guessed my knowledge of video cards is very limited.) I edited xorg.conf to call the radeon subdriver but the results were as before. I note that glxinfo reports direct rendering: No but I have not determined why. I shall be off line now until Monday. I have investigated this a bit further and extracted more information using glxinfo. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 5.2.0 r200 (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_add_dispatch) libGL error: unable to find driver: r200_dri.so libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 5.2.0 r200 (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_add_dispatch) libGL error: unable to find driver: r200_dri.so display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group client glx vendor string: ATI client glx version string: 1.3 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_ARB_multisample OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 1x x86/MMX+/3DNow! +/SSE2 TCL OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.2 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat -- 0x23 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x25 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x26 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x27 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x28 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x29 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2a 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2b 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2c 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2d 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2e 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2f 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x30 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x31 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x32 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x4b 32 tc 1 0 0 c . . 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ The problem seems to be:- libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so libGL
Re: [SLUG] Running Google Earth in Ubuntu
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 06:05 +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: Google Earth probably needs to have direct rendering and 3D capability, because it uses OpenGL to draw the textures and such. The open source ati driver likely won't give you direct rendering on a 9200 card, and you'll need to install the proprietary fglrx drivers from ATI to get 3D support. There's a good howto on the Ubuntu wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI That documents how to install it from the repos or how to do it manually. It doesn't have a guide specifically for Feisty, but it should be a similar procedure. fglrx won't give you direct rendering on 9200 whatsoever.. they stopped supporting that card a long time ago.. the open source driver should support that card in feisty fine.. glxinfo should give direct rendering... does glxgears run? Does the system lockup completely? do you have any fancy AGP options enabled in the logs..? does adding Option CardType PCI to the driver section in xorg.conf make any difference? Attached is my xorg.conf file and a file glxinfo.txt containing the output of glxinfo. glxgears runs slowly and jerkily unless the window is small. The computer does not lock solid when I try to run googleearth but as that program seems to take about 95% of the CPU time not much else happens! I cant see mention of AGP in the xorg.conf file, in which log file should I look. (As you have no doubt guessed my knowledge of video cards is very limited.) cheers, Ken # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf(5) manual page. # (Type man xorg.conf at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section Files FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi # path to defoma fonts FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType EndSection Section Module Loadbitmap Loaddbe Loadddc Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadvbe EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/psaux Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Driver wacom Identifier stylus Option Device/dev/wacom# Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option Type stylus Option ForceDevice ISDV4 # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section InputDevice Driver wacom Identifier eraser Option Device/dev/wacom# Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option Type eraser Option ForceDevice ISDV4 # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section InputDevice Driver wacom Identifier cursor Option Device/dev/wacom# Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option Type cursor Option ForceDevice ISDV4 # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section Device Identifier ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] Driver ati BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier CMC 17 AD Option DPMS HorizSync 30-65 VertRefresh 50-75 EndSection
Re: [SLUG] Running Google Earth in Ubuntu
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:05 +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 06:05 +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: fglrx won't give you direct rendering on 9200 whatsoever.. they stopped supporting that card a long time ago.. the open source driver should support that card in feisty fine.. glxinfo should give direct rendering... does glxgears run? Does the system lockup completely? do you have any fancy AGP options enabled in the logs..? does adding Option CardType PCI to the driver section in xorg.conf make any difference? Attached is my xorg.conf file and a file glxinfo.txt containing the output of glxinfo. glxgears runs slowly and jerkily unless the window is small. The computer does not lock solid when I try to run googleearth but as that program seems to take about 95% of the CPU time not much else happens! I cant see mention of AGP in the xorg.conf file, in which log file should I look. (As you have no doubt guessed my knowledge of video cards is very limited.) I edited xorg.conf to call the radeon subdriver but the results were as before. I note that glxinfo reports direct rendering: No but I have not determined why. I shall be off line now until Monday. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Running Google Earth in Ubuntu
Afternoon All, I have been trying to run googleearth in Ubuntu Feisty. The video card seems to be RV280 Radeon 9200 PRO. The driver in /etc/X/xorg.conf is shown as ati. The application starts and and reports that it is Initialising but never proceeds further. While running it seems to be using a lot of CPU. Which logs are most likely to show what is going on? cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Networking problem with Optus Cable.
My home internet connection via Optus cable has been suffering from intermittent disconnections in recent weeks. The set up here is that the cable modem (a Nortel Cable Modem 100) connects to a Linksys WRT54G router via an ethernet cable and the router in turn feeds this computer and a laser printer via ethernet cables. The router is running v3.03.6, Dec 29, 2004 software. Under normal operation the router picks up an address and DNS information from the cable modem as it boots up. The computer in turn picks up an address from the router when it boots up. I usually realise that the connection has failed when browsing the internet and I cannot follow a link or when I try to fetch the mail. In the failed state the indicator leds on the cable modem behave strangely with ever changing combinations. Sometimes it looks like the modem is going through some form of self test or boot sequence. In the past the fault could sometimes be cleared by de-powering al the hardware for half an hour and bringing up the cable modem, router and computer in that order. Sometimes the fault would clear apparently spontaneously. Today I contacted Optus technical support but the fault cleared just as I got to speak to a real person. During the call the support person mentioned that some customers had been having trouble with routers and to try connecting the computer straight to the cable modem if the problem returned. A short while later the problem reappeared and I restarted without the router. The computer ran all day with no problem so I thought I would see if the fault would return if I reinstated the router. Inserting the router now fails 100% of the time but I can still get to the setup program in the router from the computer using the browser. Have any slugger´s seen anything like this? Any ideas on testing the router? cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Problems with Evolution email
I keep seeing the following message in evolution: Error while Storing folder 'Inbox'. Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync I have seen other queries about this on Ubuntu forums but not what causes it or how to fix. Can anyone on this list cast any light on this? Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Problems with Evolution email
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 22:49 +1000, James Dumay wrote: By chance is this IMAP? No POP3 James On 10/21/06, Ken Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep seeing the following message in evolution: Error while Storing folder 'Inbox'. Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync I have seen other queries about this on Ubuntu forums but not what causes it or how to fix. Can anyone on this list cast any light on this? Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A Ubuntu/Debian and a grub question
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 23:13 +1000, Luke Kendall wrote: snip Well, yes, that's what I did, since I had two bootable Ubuntu installations. :-) The thing I'm trying to fix is apt messing up menu.lst because it has noted that it was originally installed to hda6 (I theorise). And I'm wondering which menu.lst grub will use to boot from. Or does it look for /boot/grub/menu.lst across all partitions and do a union of all the bootable kernels it finds? No, as I mentioned in an off list post, the bit of code in the MBR will contain a jump instruction which will jump into one of the /boot/grub directories where the stage 2 boot loader code will take over. The relevant menu.lst is the one in that directory. What you need to do is edit the first 446 bytes of hda appropriately :-) There are no doubt many ways of achieving this. If the computer has a floppy drive and you have a suitable GRUB boot floppy you can use it to boot the new installation. Once up and running edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to taste and then do sudo grub-install /dev/hda This will overwrite the first 446 bytes with code pointing to /boot/grub. (depending on how you have set up your fstab, the /boot/grub on the other partition will either not be mounted at all or will show up as /some_path/boot/grub and will not be relevant) Others reading this may be interested in the following links http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/index.htm http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/specialboots.htm http://www.pcug.org.au/oss/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=PCUG.GRUBTroubleshooting cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Spam filtering in Evolution in Ubuntu
I have recently installed a system on a spare computer using a Dapper flite 7 CD. The default email client is Evolution which has a Junk filter setting which depends, according to the help information, on SpamAssassin which is not installed. Is this an oversight or is it intended that the user selects a suitable filter after the basic installation is completed? (asking here as I think there are a few Ubuntu developers on this list :-) cheers -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Spam filtering in Evolution in Ubuntu
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 15:10 +0200, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Ken Foskey On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 23:00 +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: I have recently installed a system on a spare computer using a Dapper flite 7 CD. The default email client is Evolution which has a Junk filter setting which depends, according to the help information, on SpamAssassin which is not installed. Spam filtering works with or without spamassin installed. There is a built in one that figure out that this item has been put in the spam folder and it puts copies in there automatically. I have no idea how good the matching is, I would suggest it is very simple. By default, it uses bogofilter, which rocks. :-) That's what you're seeing. Do you mean that evolution has the functionality of bogofilter built in? aptitude show bogofilter returns Package: bogofilter State: not installed ? - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ Free software never simply picks up its marbles and goes home. - Jonathan Corbet, LWN -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Spam filtering in Evolution in Ubuntu
Please disregard my last post. I see that bogofilter is provided by evolution-plugins. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Advice on booting a Dell Inspiron 2100
Hi All, I have been lent a Dell Inspiron 2100 to play with but it won't boot. It has a 700 MHz Pentium III CPU, 128 MB RAM, a 20 GB IDE hard drive and an external IDE CDROM. The computer originally had (has?) Windows ME installed. On power up it runs through a self test and then stops with a blank screen with just a single hyphen or underscore showing as though there is no operating system installed. The boot order according to the BIOS setup program is 1 Removable devices (there are none) 2 Hard Drive 3 CDROM 4 Network The BIOS does not seem to allow changing the boot order. There is a message which reads; All items on this menu cannot be modified in user mode. If any item require changes, please consult your system Supervisor. Are there any sluggers with experience of these beasties who can tell me the magic needed to change the boot order? I am hoping that if I can put the CDROM before the HDD I may be able to boot from something like the System Rescue CD or similar. TIA Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Faulty Ubuntu mirror?
Hi, Have any other list members been using the Optusnet mirror for updating a Ubuntu Breezy installation? sudo aptitude update has been producing error messages containing lines like Err http://mirror.optusnet.com.au breezy/main Packages Could not connect to mirror.optusnet.com.au:80 (211.29.132.173). - connect (111 Connection refused) The Optus help desk could not help except to say that they would pass my query on. The mirror was working fine up until last Sunday. Which mirrors are others using? cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Maxi-multi boot layout?
On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 00:25 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for fun, I'm trying out a whole bunch of different Linux distributions, to compare them to see which I like best. I have an old PC with a 13GB drive with Mandrake 9.0 installed. This drive is /dev/hda. /dev/hda6 is the swap space. I have added a 250GB drive (/dev/hdb) and created about 20 partitions. I made /dev/hdb1 a primary partition of 1GB size, and called it boot. hdb5-hdb23 are each 12GB logical partitions, intended to try various distros. hdb24 is a 21GB partition to be a (shared across distro) home drive. All of these are ext3 partitions. I've set hdb5-23 (all the distro-drives, if I can call them that) to have a different forced-fsck count based on the number of times it's been mounted, not based on the number of days since last boot. In contrast, the home partition is set to have a forced-fsck time based on days, since it will be shared. I have also given a disk label to each distro-drive - e.g. the mandrake one has a label of MANDRAKE and I've changed its fstab to mount LABEL=MANDRAKE to /. Anyway, my real question is, what's a good way to set up the boot process? If I'm going to have say about 12 different distros, what's a good way to do this. Normally I just install the system into its own partition, and set up suitable mount points so each system can see the others, and use lilo, and add an entry for each kernel I want to boot up. That's going to be a bit painful, since I'll have to copy the /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf to each system, with appropriate tweaks to the lilo.conf on each one for its root ... wait, no, I can use a symlink of / to, say, /fedora on the fedora system or / to /mandrake on the mandrake system, so I can in fact use the same lilo.conf on each. (At least, if I leave /boot within /, not a separately mounted filesystem.) Then I only have one line in each fstab to change (the root mount point). But I was initially thinking if I put all the kernels into a separate /boot partition, it'd all be much easier. The trouble is that each distro is going to assume that /boot belongs to it, and feel free to overwrite vmlinuz and System.map etc. I just now finished a Ubuntu install. It installs Grub as the boot loader (no option not to). I was pleased to see that it detected Mandrake 9 installed on another partition and offered to keep that and add the Ubuntu as an alternative boot, so I let it do that. Unfortunately the system now fails to boot (GRUB loading stage 1.5 and leads to Error 21). I wasn't going to use Grub since I don't know of a way to check that a grub config is correct, except to reboot to see what happens. SO I can't say I'm surprised. While lilo is less powerful than grub, it seems much safer. You always know where you stand. The following URL may suggest ways that you could use GRUB http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm I could not make any detailed suggestion before trying it out myself but I think you could start by trying a GRUB boot floppy and then installing it to the HDD later. Cheers, Ken Anyway, I'll rescue the system and re-install lilo into the MBR and then proceed. But any suggestions to make this easier would be welcome. FWIW, the systems I'm planning to install are Ubuntu, Fedora core 4, knoppix, gnoppix, debian, yos, slackware 10.2, xandros, linspire, maybe lycoris and maybe gentoo too. BTW, is there a good graphical installer for debian? I got halfway through installing it in a text installer when it presented me with the configuration of ALL the kernel modules in text mode, and at that point I scrubbed it and moved on to install Mandrake 9 instead. (Yes, I know Ubuntu is Debian, but I meant a vanilla debian with point and click install.) luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Printer not detected
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 07:32 +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: 'Morning All, I have just acquired an HP PSC 1610 All-In-One printer and am having trouble establishing communication between the computer and printer. The computer is running Ubuntu Breezy. The packages hplip, hplip-base, hplip-data and hplip-ppds are all installed. System Administration Printing tells me that the printer HP-PSC-1600 is ready but if I try to print a test page nothing happens. From the above tool I find Ready: Open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds... Does anyone have any troubleshooting suggestions I can try this evening when I can get back to it? For the record it turned out to be due to a faulty USB cable. The HPLIP Toolbox still does not think the printer exists but I can print things just the same! cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Printer not detected
'Morning All, I have just acquired an HP PSC 1610 All-In-One printer and am having trouble establishing communication between the computer and printer. The computer is running Ubuntu Breezy. The packages hplip, hplip-base, hplip-data and hplip-ppds are all installed. System Administration Printing tells me that the printer HP-PSC-1600 is ready but if I try to print a test page nothing happens. From the above tool I find Ready: Open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds... Does anyone have any troubleshooting suggestions I can try this evening when I can get back to it? cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] minimal live CD
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 19:38 +1000, David wrote: I just used a live CD for the first time (Ubuntu), and as good as it is, all I really want is a shell for diagnostics. It took ages to install. Can anyone suggest a live distro that either doesn't have X at all, or has an option to bypass it. Naturally it would be nice if it was reasonably modern with most of the latest drivers etc. I've looked at the Knoppix website, but that looks similar in concept to Ubuntu. systemrescuecd-x86-0.2.15.iso has a few useful programs and fits on a small (8cm) CD. INSERT-1.3.5a_en.iso is even smaller (50MB) and fits on a business card sized CD. dsl-1.5.iso is a small general purpose distro which also fits on a business card sized CD. Puppy fits on a small USB stick. Current version is 1.0.4 with 1.0.5 due out next week. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Partitioning software
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 19:26 +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: I am probably going to buy a lappy in the next few weeks and it will inevitably come with that toy OS on it. Having paid good money for it I am disinclined to blow it away totally so I want to be able to cram it into a corner of the disk and give the rest over to a real OS. What are ppls recommendations for partitioning software - preferably FOSS that will handle XP with either NTFS or VFAT I've used QtParted found on the SystemRescueCD. It claims to be able to handle NTFS although I have only used it with VFAT. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: P120 install - reboot oddity
On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 21:19 +1000, elliott-brennan wrote: I'm trying to install DSL. I've changed the IDE cables around and the settings in BIOS and the CD-ROM and the HDD itself; trying them out as Master and 'apprentice' in various orders and with each on as IDE 1 or 2. The best I've got to is disk boot failure, when it's started up the disk in the drive and then... pause... disk boot failure :( Dunno what's going on. I've tried other disks that I know work (Puppy Linux - even Slackware) and no joy. Hi Patrick, I'd be inclined to set the HDD as master on the first IDE bus and the CDROM as master on the second IDE bus (i.e. using a separate ribbon cable for each) Next try to boot from a one floppy linux distro such as tomsrtbt http://www.toms.net/rb If that works OK then download the bootfloppy.img (1.4MB) from one of the dsl mirrors using another computer. Copy it to a known good floppy like so dd if=bootfloppy.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k conv=sync ;sync Set the BIOS of the P120 to boot first from the floppy drive and secondly from the HDD. With the dsl CD in the CDROM and your new boot floppy in the floppy drive see if the computer will boot. BTW there are two versions of the dsl CD. These are dsl-1.4.iso and dsl-1.4-syslinux.iso the latter is the one more likely to boot using an old computer. If you do succeed in getting it to boot then you may be able to do a frugal install to the HDD. You will need to create three partitions on the hard drive. One swap partition, one ~55MB partition to hold the compressed image and one partition to hold /home, /opt and backup restore. (I haven't tried this yet my self so I can't go into detail) cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu or Gnome question
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 13:10 +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 18:47 +1000, Michael Chesterton wrote: Ken Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to make a custom version of Ubuntu without gdm. I want it to boot straight into the gnome desktop and shutdown from a menu item in the System menu. I have the first part working but have not been able to find the appropriate file(s) to edit to shut down the computer. You didn't have to get rid of gdm, you can configure gdm to sign in as a user on boot automatically. (System - Administration - Login Screen Setup) I don't know if this helps, but to shutdown the computer, System - Log out - Shutdown You can also add a logout applet to the panel But can I make it so that the user does not see the display manager when shutting down? When gdm is running and you select logout from the system menu you get a dialog box and then you can select shutdown but I want to make this the _only_ choice. You can set things so that you don't get the dialog but then you just exit the session arriving at the gdm login if gdm is running or at a command line prompt if gdm is not running. In the end I edited /etc/sudoers to contain the line me ALL= NOPASSWD: /sbin/halt and added a logout applet to the panel. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu or Gnome question
I'm trying to make a custom version of Ubuntu without gdm. I want it to boot straight into the gnome desktop and shutdown from a menu item in the System menu. I have the first part working but have not been able to find the appropriate file(s) to edit to shut down the computer. I was hoping to find something like the icewm menus where you specify a label an icon and a command. I'd like to edit /etc/sudoers so that the shutdown command could be sudo /sbin/halt (or /sbin/shutdown -h now) My googling seems to be very inefficient or nobody else wants to do this. clues ? Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu or Gnome question
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 18:47 +1000, Michael Chesterton wrote: Ken Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to make a custom version of Ubuntu without gdm. I want it to boot straight into the gnome desktop and shutdown from a menu item in the System menu. I have the first part working but have not been able to find the appropriate file(s) to edit to shut down the computer. You didn't have to get rid of gdm, you can configure gdm to sign in as a user on boot automatically. (System - Administration - Login Screen Setup) I don't know if this helps, but to shutdown the computer, System - Log out - Shutdown You can also add a logout applet to the panel But can I make it so that the user does not see the display manager when shutting down? When gdm is running and you select logout from the system menu you get a dialog box and then you can select shutdown but I want to make this the _only_ choice. You can set things so that you don't get the dialog but then you just exit the session arriving at the gdm login if gdm is running or at a command line prompt if gdm is not running. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Understanding the dsl boot process.
On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 15:38 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 03:15:49PM +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: The lines in /etc/inittab that would normally start a getty are in this distribution replaced by, for example, 1:12345:respawn:/bin/bash -login /dev/tty1 21 /dev/tty1 *snip* In /home/dsl there exist, among others, the following files: .bash_profile .xinitrc and .xserverrc I can see how X starts once the user is logged in as dsl but cannot see how this is managed. If you do ctrl+alt+F1 you can see the tail end of the boot up process the last five lines showing: INIT: Entering runlevel: 5 su(pam_unix)[375]: session opened for user dsl by (uid=0) Using Xvesa default 1024x768x32 -mouse /dev/psaux,5 mouse xauth: creating new authority file /home/dsl/.Xauthority xauth: creating new authority file /home/dsl/.Xauthority *snip again* My question really boils down to what causes the su to dsl? I cannot find a reference to su in any of the boot scripts. Can anyone shed any light on this? What follows is pure speculation and brainstorming; I've never used dsl.. You've got bash being run as a login shell from init (and owned by the root user). It's launching su to the dsl user. Have you checked root's bash config files? Errr. probably .bash_profile for a login shell. Possibly also .bashrc. And of course the global ones in /etc . Bingo! There was a .bash_profile hiding in / (I'm not in the habit of doing ls -A on /) many thanks, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Understanding the dsl boot process.
Hi Sluggers, I'm trying to understand the boot process of dsl (previously known as Damn Small Linux). The boot process ends up with the X running and the user logged in as user dsl. i.e. the user is not root. The lines in /etc/inittab that would normally start a getty are in this distribution replaced by, for example, 1:12345:respawn:/bin/bash -login /dev/tty1 21 /dev/tty1 In /home/dsl there exist, among others, the following files: .bash_profile .xinitrc and .xserverrc I can see how X starts once the user is logged in as dsl but cannot see how this is managed. If you do ctrl+alt+F1 you can see the tail end of the boot up process the last five lines showing: INIT: Entering runlevel: 5 su(pam_unix)[375]: session opened for user dsl by (uid=0) Using Xvesa default 1024x768x32 -mouse /dev/psaux,5 mouse xauth: creating new authority file /home/dsl/.Xauthority xauth: creating new authority file /home/dsl/.Xauthority If you go back to the graphical desktop by pressing ctrl+alt+F2 you can run ps aux in an xterm and see that PID UidVmSize Stat Command snip 360 root 1680 S /bin/bash -login 375 dsl 1672 S -su 390 dsl 1068 S /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx snip My question really boils down to what causes the su to dsl? I cannot find a reference to su in any of the boot scripts. Can anyone shed any light on this? cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] X not starting on boot
On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 10:35 +1000, Adam W wrote: Hi, Got a problem getting my machine to automatically boot into X. I can get it to boot into a console and then use 'startx' to get into X. but everytime i tell it to boot into X it just gives me a black screen when its meant to give me a logon screen. What happens if you do /etc/init.d/kdm start or something like that (I'm not sure how Mandrake does things nor which display manager you are running) It could possibly be a video card problem. I cannot switch between X (once started) and a console ( doing ctrl-alt-F1) and then back to X (doing ctrl-alt-F7). Gives me this same black screen. Looks like it has a problem switching. Doing ctrl-alt-F7 assumes that there are gettys running on VTs 1 to 6 but if, for example, you have only VTs 1 to 3 as I have on some of my setups you would see this. What is in /etc/inittab? cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Create boot to Linux floppy
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 00:09 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: Okay, I have a possibly stuffed lappie hard disk that I can not partition with any of the MS OS's, so I want to create a Linux floppy and boot off it to be able to run FDISK on the lappie floppy. How about good old Tom's disk http://www.toms.net/rb/ (or if the laptop can boot from CD I have it on CD as well) I'll be at Casula Power House on Sunday and will have a copy with me. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Missing devices?
Yesterday I installed Debian Sarge on an old P120 with 32MB RAM and a 1275MB HDD using the rc2 netinst.iso. For the first time I tried the installation using the 2.6.8-1-386 kernel. (On other occassions I have added a 2.6 kernel later.) While trying to establish printing via the parallel port I observed: example:~# lsmod |grep lp lp 10408 0 parport37329 2 parport_pc,lp example:~# cat test.txt /dev/lp0 -bash: /dev/lp0: No such device or address example:~# ls -l /dev/lp0 crw-rw 1 root lp 6, 0 2004-09-18 21:53 /dev/lp0 Why does bash think that /dev/lp0 does not exist while ls thinks it does? Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] fedora
quote who=Rajnish All, I've been playing with Fedora Core 3 and ubuntu - all on separate partitions on /dev/hdb while win2k sits on /dev/hda. Grub is installed on MBR. snip I have a few questions on Ubuntu and fedora - I want to change to a less memory intensive window manager. I've heard of a few .. but how do I swap to them ? You could do in the root terminal aptitude install icewm icewm-themes menu update-menus then logout to the gdm display manager and select icewm from xsession before loging in again. You will probably want to edit various configuration files for icewm. (I could email an example if required) Secondly, the startup of both Ubuntu and Fedora take considerable time - I mean minutes. On a standalone system, used for dialup internet, what are some services that can be stopped ? I haven't checked this out yet. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] fedora
quote who=Ken Caldwell quote who=Rajnish All, I've been playing with Fedora Core 3 and ubuntu - all on separate partitions on /dev/hdb while win2k sits on /dev/hda. Grub is installed on MBR. snip I have a few questions on Ubuntu and fedora - I want to change to a less memory intensive window manager. I've heard of a few .. but how do I swap to them ? You could do in the root terminal I forgot you will have to uncomment the line in /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://archive.ubantu.com/ubantu warty universe aptitude install icewm icewm-themes menu update-menus then logout to the gdm display manager and select icewm from xsession before loging in again. You will probably want to edit various configuration files for icewm. (I could email an example if required) Secondly, the startup of both Ubuntu and Fedora take considerable time - I mean minutes. On a standalone system, used for dialup internet, what are some services that can be stopped ? I haven't checked this out yet. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Small Linux distro
quote who=Alan L Tyree On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:43:07 +1100 Vlad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I have a Dell P1 133MHz laptop, with 24Mb RAM and 1GB hdd. I want to install Linux on it, just to prove some Widoze zealots that it can run better with Linux then Win98. A no-frills install of Debian was suggested to me last night, just wondering if there's another distro to consider. Vlad, I run Debian Sarge on a laptop that has similar specs. Because of the mouse problem, I find IceWm to be one of the best, but I have also run fluxbox and Xfce without problems. Cheers, Alan Alan or indeed anyone on this list, What word processor do you recommend on a computer with less than 64MB RAM? I think you would need 64MB RAM to successfully run OpenOfficeOrg. (Maybe Ken Foskey could advise us?) Can anyone comment on the memory requirements of AbiWord? dsl uses PatheticWriter (part of Siag Office) and Feather Linux uses Ted but both are very limited compared to OO and Abi. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 2.6.8 upgrade round 2
quote who=Simon Wong On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 12:22, Rod Butcher wrote: Having got 2.6.8 to boot by changing lilo root arg to /dev/sda1 Just to let you know, there's a problem with 2.6.8 that means that you can't write to CDs (not sure if this is the case when using scsi/scsi emulation or just when writing directly to ATAPI drives). I can burn CDs just fine on this box which is running a 2.6.8 kernel. /dev/cdrom is a symlink to /dev/scd0 I had to drop back to 2.6.7 for this reason so I thought I'd give you a heads up. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Looking for a couple of icons.
Does anyone know where I can find a couple of desktop icons. I am looking for a telephone handset in the off-hook and on-hook condition to represent dialup and hangup. I have found lots of icons jus not those two. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] [Computerbank] Working bee tomorrow Saturday 5th June
Dan Treacy asked me to forward the attached announcement to this list as it was accidentally left off the distribution list. Hi All, Just to let you know that Computerbank's Seven Hills site will be open tommorrow and there will be lots of activity. Some of you may not be aware that we've recently taken over the lease for this site and are now running all the operations out there directly. The inventory has slowly (over the last few weekends) been reorganised to be stacked and packed much more efficiently and as we recieve the last loads of a large corporate donation we'll be able to concentrate more on processing and dealing with the machines as opposed to the recent focus on logistically inclined matters. So come along, there'll be more stacking and moving of inventory but there'll also be sorting and checking of motherboards, dismantling of cases and possibly testing of components. Lunch may be provided, depending on numbers. Location: Unit 32 195 Propsect Highway Seven Hills (opposite Lucas Road) (head north from train station) Date: Saturday 5th June 2004 Time: 9am onwards. Just a reminder to everyone that we are aiming to keep Seven Hills open every Saturday for at least a few hours. But this involves your help. Attendance will help as it will encourage us to keep the place open. Or you may even be interested in volunteering to supervise. Computerbank requires volunteers to achieve it's goals. We're doing our best to give you the facilities and equipment to accomplish this but that means you have do your bit too if things are to work. Doesn't mean it needs to be every weekend. But one weekend a month from everyone would be great. See you there, Dan. ___ cbnsw-newsletter mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.cbnsw.org.au/listinfo/cbnsw-newsletter -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Free SGI Indy
quote who=Chris MacKenzie I have a complete SGI Indy machine that I don't need anymore and thought that some slugger might want to use it for a firewall or print server or something. It's got 96mb of ram and a 4.6Gb scsi drive installed. comes complete with original kb/mouse, camera and monitor. If no-one wants it, it goes into the dumpster at work. I'm sure we could find a use for it at Computerbank. It's currently installed with Debian 3.0r2 and definately pickup only from either the Parramatta or Blacktown areas. I'd be happy to pick it up. email me or phone 9624 6260 or mob 0408 647 671 I am replying on list as direct emails to your email address and permutations thereof cannot be delivered. cheers, Ken Caldwell Vice Pres. Computerbank Sydney -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Status of Debian servers?
quote who=Matthew Palmer On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 03:09:13PM +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi People, Can someone in the know please update us on the current status of the http://www.wiggy.net/debian/status/ When I try the above URL it doesn't resolve. Can anyone quote an IP for www.wiggy.net? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] What's up with the Debian Mirrors?
I can't seem to find any working Debian mirrors. Is there a known problem with them? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Computerbank moving day (Re: [activities] Re: Draft committee meeting agenda for 5th November)
Oops! I seem to have overlooked this so I'll take the opportunity to post now (see below) quote who=Mary Gardiner On Thu, Oct 30, 2003, Mihaly wrote: This date seems to have general agreement (well, no direct disagreement) with the Computerbank group. We have a moving day coming up which is just shifting stuff from Blacktown school classroom back to the main warehouse at Seven Hills. We'd appreciate any assistance from interested parties and it gives some people a chance to have a look around at our premises there to get an idea about whether you feel it's a good venue. Which day is this, do you know? If you haven't already, post details of the moving day to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computerbank's next activity will take place on this comming Saturday, November 15th. We have to move all our stock currently stored at Blacktown North Public School to the Seven Hills warehouse as the school needs their classroom back. We will still retain the use of another classroom but on a shared basis and hence no use as a warehouse. If anyone would like to help we will meet at the school in Bessemer St. Blacktown (off Sunnyholt Road) at 9am. If you can bring a Ute, horse float or box trailer that would be appreciated but otherwise just turn up and lend a hand. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Codefest debugathon
quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo People, The following offer is open till 8am tomorrow: I hereby offer to try and find/fix any bug in any piece of software that mets the following conditions: 0) Software is released under any of the standard Open Source or Free Software licenses. 1) Is available as an official Debian package. 2) The version of the package in Debian unstable has the bug. 3) The software runs in user space (ie not kernel code). 4) Is written in C, C++ or Python. 5) Has a easy recipe for recreating the problem. 6) You notify me in advance of the Debian package name (by private email please). 7) You can be present to confirm that the bug is fixed. 8) Time permits :-). Hecklers, rubbernecks, supporters, people who think they could do better, people wanting to help etc are all welcome. I will attempt to give a running commentary the debugging progresses. All bugs found/fixed will be submitted as bug reports with a patch to Debian's bug tracking system. So far I have two to work on: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=193966 nominated by Ken Caldwell http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=149088 nominated by Peter Chubb Unfortunately, Ken can't be there until sometime in the afternoon and the second one looks real difficult. I would therefore like to an easier one to warm up on, especially since I am hoping to pass on some of my debugging techniques. Congratulations Erik! Two bugs submitted, two bugs resolved. I didn't arrive till early afternoon so Erik started on the hard bug first. By the time I looked in the master had disposed of the first bug and was ready to start on the second. This was a bug in the window manager aewm which caused it to (frequently) ignore mouse clicks on the root window. Some left clicks, most middle clicks and no right clicks were ignored. This bug turned out to be much harder to crack than the first. In fact it took over six hours. (from about 2pm to 9pm with a short refueling stop for a late lunch) The program was recompiled many times with debugging messages strategically placed to try and isolate the section of code which was not behaving as expected. Progress was quite satisfactory at first and it was readily shown that the program was detecting all the mouse button events. The difficult part was determining why the subprogram was often not run following the detection of a button event. A chance discovery that the bug could be consistently triggered by being very slow on the button led to the solution of the problem. I would like to publicly thank Erik for his marathon effort. There must have been a dozen other people hacking away all day on various projects but I have not seen any reports either here or on slug chat. What did anyone else achieve? (I know it may be hard to write about programming but not impossible ;-) cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] How can you determine the default dpi setting in X?
I have an IBM P70 17 Monitor on this computer running at a resolution of 1280x960 pixels. The picture is about 318mm by 235mm (It is a bit difficult to measure because of the curvature of the screen) These figures seem to correspond to about 103 pixel per inch. I have read that you can supply a dpi argument to X at startup but I can't find any such option in amongst the myriad of files and scripts that are associated with X. (X is started on this box by the wdm display manager) Is there a command that will reveal the X server's default dpi? cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How can you determine the default dpi setting in X?
quote who=Andrew Bennetts On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:43:54PM +1100, Ken Caldwell wrote: I have an IBM P70 17 Monitor on this computer running at a resolution of 1280x960 pixels. The picture is about 318mm by 235mm (It is a bit difficult to measure because of the curvature of the screen) These figures seem to correspond to about 103 pixel per inch. I have read that you can supply a dpi argument to X at startup but I can't find any such option in amongst the myriad of files and scripts that are associated with X. (X is started on this box by the wdm display manager) Is there a command that will reveal the X server's default dpi? Does xdpyinfo | grep resolution help? Yes, exactly what I was looking for. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] linux help for educator
quote who=Alper Ciftci Hi, I am a Maths/Physics teacher at Sule College and I want to install Linux on my laptop. I got about 80 GB free disk space. My purpose is to run mathematical scientific software free. Of course office programs as well, but teaching software is my preference. I used redhat at uni about 5 years ago. But I do not know how to install. Currently XP is loaded and I want to keep it. At school we have cable modem, and at home I use iprimus dial up. I have a few questions: 1.Which distribution will be the best for me 2.If I select any of the distributions can I install any linux application from the net? Or is there any restriction that an application will only work on redhat and not slackware etc. 3.Can I install multiple versions at the same time to test and evaluate which version is best for me? 4.If possible can I meet with anyone to do the installation process together? I have fast internet and a burner. Can download anything. Hi Alper, Is computer support at Sule College provided by the same person that looks after the IT infrastructure at the Sule College primary school at Auburn? The computers supplied to that school by Computerbank are running Debian and the IT support person was familiarising himself with this distribution. This may be of interest in your choice. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ide cd-writer
quote who=Terry Collins Shaun Oliver wrote: hi all, I have here a reco mp70-40a 4x ide cd-writer. I'm attempting to run it on debian woody. how does one set up scsi emulation for this device? There is a HOWTO on this. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance. btw. how should I enter in the information in /etc/fstab? Also, you may need to do a kernel upgrade. I recently asked this question and Ken Caldwell posted what he did to get it working under Debian Woody. I really should have posted to the list anyway. This is what I wrote: quote who=Terry Collins 8--- I do not have the ide-cd.o module on my system anywhere. I was wondering where it comes from (source). The problem is I am trying to get a IDE CD-burner working on the Debian system and without this module, I can not access the other CD drive. Usual stuff, which I have done before, but this time, that module is missing. Hi Terry, I rebuilt my Woody box this morning. You are right the default kernel 2.4.18bf does not support a CD burner. I think you may be wrong about the reason though. What I did was to run modconf and install the sg module. (you need both the sg and ide-scsi modules but the ide-scsi module was listed as having already been installed. I then cd to the /dev directory and rm cdrom followed by ln -s scd0 cdrom This was insufficient to get cdrecord working so I did aptitude install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386 and rebooted using that kernel. I am burning a CD using the box (not this box) as I type. I will be out for an hour or so but will be home later this afternoon or this evening. Feel free to 'phone if you have a problem. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[kencaldwell@optushome.com.au: Re: [SLUG] fluxbox - beautiful]
From: Ken Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] fluxbox - beautiful X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.20-3-686 i686 quote who=Ramon Buckland rant Finally, after months of wanting a minimalist window manager (Nothing bulky, give me small) I have installed fluxbox, and instant satisfaction has landed. Everything is small again! (reminds me of my days with ctwm .. ahh the joy) So for those who want an efficiently small window manager. fluxbox is it. (a spin off from blackbox I see) thanks Eric for mentioning it a while back.. been a bit busy to try. /rant snip While we are thinking about minimalist window managers are there any subscribers to this list using aewm on debian unstable? I used to use it untill I got this computer (400MHz Pentium II) and can no longer do so. Middle clicking on the root window should run aemenu --switch bringing up a list of hidden windows. It works correctly on an old P166 I have but on this box only about 1 in 20 clicks seems to register. See bug # 193966:aewm aewm does not respond to mouse clicks in the root window The middle button is recognised by other apps. for example I can select text with the left button and paste by middle clicking. I am interested in finding out if this behaviour is limited to just this computer or is it more widespread so if anyone is using or has tried aewm recently I would like to hear from you. cheers, Ken - End forwarded message - -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Inaugural meeting of Computerbank Sydney
Hi, A meeting is being held tomorrow, Tuesday 17th June 2003, to set up Computerbank Sydney. The venue is: Unit 32, 195 Prospect Highway, Seven Hills. and the meeting is scheduled to commence at 7.00 pm The idea is to create the Sydney based affiliate of Computerbank NSW. regards, Ken Caldwell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian: Potato to Woody
quote who=Terry Collins My understanding is that Potato (Deb 2.2) is the old stabel version of Debian and that Woody is the new stabel version of Debian. If so, what is the best way to upgrade from Spud to Woody? (and err how?) More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Have a look at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] How do you make a Debian update CD
I have a 7CD set of the Debian 3.0r0 distribution. I would like to upgrade this set to 3.0r1 by adding an update CD. There exist two files, debian-update-3.0r1-i386.jigdo and debian-update-3.0r1-i386.template, at non-us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-r1/jigdo/i386/ Would some kind soul please post the magic incantation that will turn this information into an iso file of the desired CD? I seem to either misunderstand the jigdo-file manpage or I am mistyping the command because I get 'no such file or directory' messages from my attempts. thanks, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How do you make a Debian update CD
quote who=Ken Caldwell I have a 7CD set of the Debian 3.0r0 distribution. I would like to upgrade this set to 3.0r1 by adding an update CD. snip This worked # jigdo-lite jigdo: http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian-cd/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/i386/debian-update-3.0r1-i386.jigdo (the above URL is all one line) In short order I had a new .iso whic I then recorded to CD. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Modifying tomsrtbt disk
Hi, For some years I have used tomsrtbt disk as a convienient boot, repair and rescue disk. In that time I have nearly always used it in 80x25 characters and never with anything but a standard qwerty keyboard. It occurs to me that I could save time or keystrokes by removing the three delays built into the boot process. Does anyone here know how to do this? I have found the sleep 15 that gives you time to select the keyboard but have not found the code that controls the wait at the boot prompt or while waiting for you to select the number of lines and characters to be displayed on the screen. (I admit that I have only a hazy idea of what the rc.custom scriot is doing!) If I wanted to run a script on startup rather than getting a login prompt what changes should I make? cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian network install
quote who=Matthew Palmer On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Richard Hayes wrote: Reading the Debian installation how to I did not see how many floppy disks I need to do a network install? 6 IIRC. I did one her yesterday with just two floppys. One was the bf24.bin boot floppy and the other was the root.bin root floppy. This will only work if the network card is already compiled into the kernel. Otherwise you may need four more floppys containing drivers. cheers, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus cable home page www
quote who=Simon Bryan Hi all, Thanks for the advice recently on getting my second NIC running and connecting to Optus Cable - it is working if you get this email :-) However can anyone tell me how to access the OptusCable Home page http:/www/ ? I am running through Squid as a proxy server at the moment and the server is on RH7.2. This works fine if your system is connected directly to the ^^^ What browser do you use? I find I can only connect to this site using Netscape 4.x. It does not seem to render correctly using Skipstone, Galeon or Mozilla. (In particular various navigational tabs are not displayed and there is a white band across the image where the top row of buttons should be) Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Timeout delay during apt-get update ?
Not really a problem but I have noticed that whenever I do an apt-get update there is a delay after the files have been fetched of about 2 minutes before the process completes. Is this to be expected or should I look for some mis-configuration? Here is a typical line from /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian unstable main contrib non-free -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] xfce installation problem
I finally found a way to move the panel to where I wanted it. With the resolution set to 800x600 the only part of the panel visible was the bit you use to log out. By temporarily reconfiguring X to 1024x768 enough of the panel was visible to reveal the place where you can grab it and drag it further into view. If you log out and then reconfigure X to 800x600 resolution when you log back in enough of the panel will be visible to enable you to drag it to where you want it! I would still be interested in finding out how to preset the position using config files though. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] xfce installation problem
quote who=Matthew Hannigan On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:08:36PM +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: The trouble seems to be that the panel or whatever its called is mostly off screen in the bottom right hand corner. Infact only the bit that lets you log out is visible at all. Maybe you've got the virtual screen feature. If so, you can drag your mouse past the bottom right of the monitor screen and the whole lot should scroll for you. To disable this, check out your Xconfig -- compare with the known 'good' one: Neither machine uses the virtual screen feature. I generally set things to support just one resolution. I have tried reconfiguring X to have a higher resolution on the troublesome box with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-s3 and pushing the resolution up to 1024x768 (which is about as far as I can go with the attached monitor). I had to drop back to 16 bit colour because the card has only 2Mb video RAM. At this resolution about half the panel is visible. It appears that the panel is drawn at a fixed offset (in pixels) from the top left corner. The help files don't seem to describe how to change this setting. I will do some more searching. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] xfce installation problem
I've been trying to set up xfce as the desktop for one user on a woody box. The trouble seems to be that the panel or whatever its called is mostly off screen in the bottom right hand corner. Infact only the bit that lets you log out is visible at all. xfce works satasfactorily on this computer which is running sid. I haven't found out how to set the initial placement of the panel. Other differences between the boxes are the screen resolutions. This box is 1280x1024 while the other one is 800x600. I found some coordinates in a file in ~/.xfce/xfce3rc which may have been related but the file says do not edit and if you do any changes are lost anyway. Clues anyone? thanks, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Conflict resolution when tracking Debian SID
This evening when trying to upgrade this box I ran into a dependency problem. Apt-get dselect-upgrade cannot upgrade fileutils, shellutils or textutils because to do so it must first install the new package coreutils. coreutils conflicts with stat which is provided by the old fileutils. coreutils provides stat. The error message says that the dependency loop may be avoided by activating the APT::Force-LoopBreak option The message also comes with a dire warning that bad things can happen if you try this. Does anyone on the list know if it is safe to try this in this case? Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] (no subject)
quote who=DaZZa On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, graham wright wrote: Try the linuxcare toolbox CD. You can download an image from the web. I think it's around 50MB. Does anyone know if it's been updated past the 2.0.36(?) kernel that was on it last time I looked? yes If so, what kernel is on it now? 2.4.5 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] download speeds
quote who=Wienand Ian Well, 56k bps = 56 * 1000 bits per second 56000 bps/ 8 = 7000 bps 7000 bytes / 1024 bytes (1kB)= 6.8 kB/s Shouldn't it be 56000 bps /10 = 5600 bytes/sec. (allowing for start and stop bits)? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Smallest linux distro yet?
In today's lwn there was a link that leads to http://linuxassembly.org/asmutils/a-linux-0.17.tar.gz Inside there is one floppy distribution which takes up 676602 bytes of a floppy! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] That '386
The saga continues: The saga continues. quote who=Ken Caldwell My current theory is that the compressed root filesystem is being read into memory OK but the decompression is failing. Tomorrow I will move the hard drive to another computer and do a base install then see if it will work in the 386. Well I moved the Hard Drive and NIC over to another computer and installed a minimal debian distribution. That computer booted OK. I then moved the Hard Drive and NIC back to the 386 and tried to boot it. The boot proceeds normally (except for how long things take) untill init starts. The on screen error messages begin: INIT: version 2.84 booting Loading /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz chld_handler(): Decompressor child was terminated by signal 11 /etc/init.d/rcS: line 74: 13 Segmentation fault mount -n /proc Activating Swap followed by many more seg faults. The following other facts were also gleaned from the kernel messages. The CPU does not honour the wp bit when in supervisor mode. 386/387 coupling is handled by the old IRQ13 error reporting. The cpu is subject to the popad bug. Ken
Re: [SLUG] Can't install linux on an old 386
quote who=Peter Hardy On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 20:28, Ken Caldwell wrote: I have an old computer with a '386 CPU on which I thought I would Probably clutching at straws here, but does it have a math coprocessor? Yes. Adding no387 to the lilo boot prompt might help in the case that it does have one which isn't working properly. This did not appear to have any effect ie the failure was as before. For the compact flavour the following appears after entering the root disk: RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 crc error 5 VFS: Insert root floppy and press enter *snip* least once so the memory is probably OK. Changing the floppy drive seems to make no difference. Have you tried different floppy disks, and it could also be corrupt images. Yes. Tried three different sets of disks. The two mentioned in my original posting and also a set of vanilla 2.2r2 I have been unsuccessful in copying the kernel from toms disk. I can mount it as a minix filesystem on my desktop computer and ls shows the kernel, bz2bzImage, but I can't copy it to my hard disk. The error messages say something about trying to read past the end of the filesystem. I solved this by unpacking toms onto the hard drive and I was then able to get a copy of the kernel. I renamed this kernel to linux.bin and substituted it for the one ont the vanilla set but when I tried to use it I experienced the same failure as with the original kernel. My current theory is that the compressed root filesystem is being read into memory OK but the decompression is failing. Tomorrow I will move the hard drive to another computer and do a base install then see if it will work in the 386. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Can't install linux on an old 386
Hi, (not quite sure wether to pos here or on slug-chat :-) ) I have an old computer with a '386 CPU on which I thought I would install linux. The box has 32MB RAM and a NIC. If I try to do a Debian Woody install the process fails when loading the root disk. I have tried using both the compact and vanilla flavours. The error messages are similar. For the compact flavour the following appears after entering the root disk: RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 crc error 5 VFS: Insert root floppy and press enter For the vanilla flavour the message is as follows: RAMDISK: compressed image found at block 0 crc error 6 apm: BIOS not found. VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER The box will boot up under tomsrtbt 2.0.103 which has a 2.2.20 kernel. I compiled a version of memtest-86 3.0 for a 386 CPU, booted from it and let it run overnight. By morning it had run through all the tests at least once so the memory is probably OK. Changing the floppy drive seems to make no difference. I vaguely seem to recall reading of problems with newer kernels compiled with recent versions of GCC but have not been able to find a reference. (toms disk is a libc5 distro and the kernel is compiled using GCC 2.7.2) According to the README on the Debian rescue disk it should work with a different kernel so I thought I'd try the the one from tomsrtbt 2.0.103 I have been unsuccessful in copying the kernel from toms disk. I can mount it as a minix filesystem on my desktop computer and ls shows the kernel, bz2bzImage, but I can't copy it to my hard disk. The error messages say something about trying to read past the end of the filesystem. Can anyone shed any light on these problems? regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems....
quote who=Scott Ragen Hi guys, I'm a little confused by this, and although it has never caused any problems, I am somewhat concerned about it. I was looking at my partitions through fdisk and comparing them to the mounted filesystems, and found an oddity (atleast it looks like one to me) An fdisk produces two partitions as below: /dev/hda4 420 1216 6401902+ f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 420 1216 6401871 83 Linux If you notice the start and end cylinders, they are both the same. I have tried mounting hda4 to see what it is, but it comes up with the wrong fs type etc. Can anyone put some reasoning into what looks to be a computer contradicting itself? hda4 is the extended partition and hda5 is the first, and in this case the only, logical partition within it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Skipstone browser not starting
Hi, I am unable to run the skipstone browser on this box (running Debian unstable) and do not understand the error message that I get. The following is the result of trying to run it from an xterm. adler: ~ $ skipstone [1] 21218 adler: ~ $ Creating a crash recovery file It looks like Skipstone is respawning too fast. Check your moz-embed, it could be faulty. ** CRITICAL **: file mozilla.cpp: line 881 (gboolean mozilla_save_prefs()): assertion `prefService != nsnull' failed. [1]+ Doneskipstone adler: ~ $ the packages involved are: mozilla-browser 1.0.0-3 and skipstone 0.8.1-0.2 Can anyone enlighten me? TIA Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Installation failure using Woody boot-floppies
'Evening All, I have been trying to install a Debian woody distribution on an old '386 with 32MB RAM. It is to be a network install and I am using the compact flavour boot-floppies vis: rescue.bin, root.bin, driver-1.bin driver-2.bin. The computer boots from the rescue.bin floppy and eventually gets to the point where it asks for the root disk. The first message after inserting the root floppy and pressing enter is RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 followed a long time after by crc error5VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER I would suspect the media except the floppies work in another computer. Has anyone any other thoughts on what could be wrong? regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: OpenOffice.org on Debian
quote who=Richard Hayes On Mon, 13 May 2002 11:50, you wrote: We now have Openoffice.org packages for debian on i386 and and powerpc. I was going to give these a go (Debian) but noticed they need gcc3 and libstdc++3. Dear list, I have looked at the Debian site a number of times and still can't see the Openoffice .debs. I know they were going to uploaded at least 3 weeks ago but I still can not find them. Ditto the KDE3 .debs The /etc/apt/sources entry for OpenOffice is: deb http://www.mx1.ru/~chris/openoffice unstable main contrib not sure about the KDE3 but I believe they are also unofficial. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] X terminal won't connect
Hi everyone, I'm trying to teach myself how to build a small thin client network. As a first step I'm trying to create a simple X terminal. This terminal is a computer with a Debian base install plus an xserver and thats about all. If I type X at the prompt I get the stippled grey screen with an X cursor. On the computer representing the server running a fairly comprehensive Debian install I have edited two files to allow the X terminal to connect. /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess has had the line (formerly) #* #any host can get a login window un commented to * #any host can get a login window and /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config has had the last line commented out. It now reads: ! DisplayManager.requestPort: 0 If on the X terminal box I now type X -query 192.168.0.5 I get the grey screen as before not the login screen I was hoping for. After killing X with ctrl+alt+bacspace the underlying messages give no hint of any problem and I cannot see anything in the logs on the sever either. What other files should I edit to enable me to see the login screen? Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[kencaldwell@optushome.com.au: Re: [SLUG] X terminal won't connect]
Oops! meant to cc the list as well. - Forwarded message from Ken Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Ken Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] X terminal won't connect X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.18-586tsc i586 quote who=Peter Chubb Ken /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess has had the line (formerly) #* #any host can Ken get a login window un commented to * #any host can get a login Ken window and /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config has had the last line Ken commented out. It now reads: ! DisplayManager.requestPort: 0 If you want XDM to manage other servers, you need to edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers as well. Thanks Peter, Adding the line 192.168.0.2:0 foreign to the end of the /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file solved the problem. Now to determine the smallest possible install for an X terminal! Ken - End forwarded message - -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] next problem
quote who=Dennis Curnow` G'Day Gang, Now when I boot the system everything seems to go ok. I log in as root at the comand prompt (no graphics) and do a startx and I get a message saying that the server is already running on display 0. At this point the command prompt has disappeared and What may be happening here is that the computer was still booting up when you logged in. Next time you boot up just let the machine sit there for a while after you see the login prompt. After a while the screen may go blank and then come back with a graphical login. If the computer screen does not come back after a few seconds hit any key to wake it up and you should be back at your prompt. At this point you might try Alt+F7 to see if the xserver is running on VT7. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] ppp authentication problem
'evening all, I am trying to get two Debian boxes talking to each other via the PSTN. Both boxes have the same users and passwords. This box has mgetty running on ttyS1. I can login to this box from the other one using minicom but I want another user to be able to connect using ppp. I have configured ppp on the other box for user beryl using pppconfig. The file /etc/mgetty/login.conf on this box contains the lines: /AutoPPP/ - a_ppp /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login debug * - - /bin/login and the file /etc/ppp/options contains the lines: disconnect chat -- \d+++\d\c OK ath0 OK asyncmap 0 auth crtscts lock hide-password modem netmask 255.255.255.0 passive +pap proxyarp lcp-echo-interval 30 lcp-echo-failure 4 noipx I think both files are in their default state. I have removed the comments for the purposes of this post but not from the actual files. If I log on to the other box as user beryl and type $ pon in an xterm, the modem dials out and is answered here but the call is dropped as soon as the squarking ceases. Below is an extract from /var/log/debug Mar 19 15:44:49 adler identd[20265]: started Mar 19 17:18:24 adler pppd[21060]: using channel 1 Mar 19 17:18:24 adler pppd[21060]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0x19dfcca4 pcomp accomp] Mar 19 17:18:25 adler pppd[21060]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0x19dfcca4 pcomp accomp] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x73903ace pcomp accomp] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x73903ace pcomp accomp] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x19dfcca4] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x73903ace] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x19dfcca4] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=beryl password=hidden] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: sent [PAP AuthNak id=0x1 Login incorrect] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 Authentication failed] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x73903ace] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x2 Failed to authenticate ourselves to peer] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x2] Mar 19 17:18:26 adler pppd[21060]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2] Mar 19 17:26:43 adler identd[21128]: started Mar 19 17:42:06 adler identd[21176]: started Mar 19 17:52:19 adler identd[21217]: started Mar 19 18:37:34 adler identd[21652]: started Mar 19 19:13:07 adler identd[22029]: started Mar 19 21:05:05 adler identd[22825]: started Mar 19 21:20:29 adler identd[22878]: started So the call is being dropped because Login incorrect but in what way? Is there some other file that I should look at or edit? Some of the files seem to be well documented if only I understood what they meant! confused Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Strange browser behavior
quote who=David Kempe Ken the only time I have seen this cursor behaviour is when the video memory is corrupt in some way. it could be software like a corrupt driver or hardware like broken ram has anything else gone wrong with the machine? We have'nt observed any other problems yet. I think I will swap the whole box with another and examine the problem machine off site. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Strange browser behavior
I am looking after four linux boxes running debian (testing). One of the boxes exhibits a strange behavior when running a browser. The browsers on this box do not render pages correctly. This is a very strange problem that has me baffled. If you start skipstone it barely renders anything showing only bits of the page. If you drag the scrollbar down to the bottom and back up the page is revealed. If you move the cursor onto the page things start dissappearing again as the pointer passes. If you start dillo (another browser) instead, a similar thing happens. The text of the initial splash screen is invisible but appears after you drag the scrollbar down and back! Has anyone got any idea what could cause this? Doing a ps -ef on this machine and another that was behaving normally revealed one less process started by skipstone. If you start AbiWord it appears to be working correctly. This box has the video card built in to the motherboard and has a SiS5597 Chipset. The xserver is XFree86 4.1.0 It was necessary to give the option sw_cursor in the devices section of the config file to get a normal cursor. Before that the cursor was a square about 2cm x 2cm. Has anyone here seen this behavior before? regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dos boot disk
quote who=David is it possible to create a bootable msdos disk from a standard RH or Suse distro? Everyone assumes that you have a DOS disk to hand, or a windows box to create one on. It is possible to download freedos and create all the floppys including a boot floppy using your linux system and I have done it. There was a bug in the freedos kernel a month or so back but they have probably fixed their distro by now. I haven't checked. At that time you had to get a later kernel to use with their distribution. If I remember and have time I will have a look tomorrow. If you wish I could email you an image of a boot disk and you could dd it to a floppy. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] An analysis of modem performance
quote who=Howard Lowndes I've been doing some quantified analysis of the performance of a few PSTN modems, mainly because I have one that I think is doing something odd. The modems in question are: A Global Express connected to a P120/64Mb B Swann Smart connected to a P120/64Mb C D-Link connected to a P120/64Mb D Dynalink (I think) connected to a Celeron 733/128Mb Were the tests all carried out over the same 'phone line or four different lines? The test is to run several bursts of pings and assess the average response time. The ping command is: ping -n -c10 -i0.01 -s8 target This is sending a burst of 10 short ping packets in 1 second with no DNS resolution. The source of these pings is a Celeron 850/128Mb connected to an ADSL link. The results for normal icmp (type 17) packets are: A 155msec B 190msec C 155msec D 220msec I then looked at pinging the same modems but this time with the ping packets encapsulated in isakmp (type 50) packets. The results are somewhat startling: A 195msec +40msec B 240msec +50msec C 205msec +50msec D 450msec +230msec The really odd bit is that modem D is the one attached to the Celeron 850/128Mb. Similar tests for ADSL (Celeron 850/128Mb) to ADSL sites show around 55msec for the type 17 packets with about 15msec additional for the type 50 packets for the tunnelling component despite the fact that the targets vary between P166/48Mb, Celeron 500/128Mb and Celeron 850/256Mb. Can anyone explain why there could be such a variation in the differences between type 17 and type 50 packets where a PSTN modem is involved? Agreed that packet sizes will be different with type 50 being bigger, but is it that much material? I may be way of track here, but I imagine the ping time is the time it takes to receive a correct response to the transmitted ping. When the link is first set up the modems negotiate the fastest satisfactory speed for that particular connection. The algorithm used is sometimes unduly optimistic leading to bit errors. The modem then asks for that byte to be repeated and does not emit the data to the computer until it has received it correctly. If the problem is of this nature it can sometimes be alleviated by explicitly instructing the modem not to attempt connecting above a certain speed (say 22kbps). (There is an AT command for this with some modems) Bit errors are not just caused by noisy lines or excessive attenuation but can be caused by strange frequency and phase response. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Trying to setup remote printing between two Linux boxen.
quote who=Michael Lake Michael Lake wrote: I see that Ken had the same problem a while ago: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2001/February/msg01207.html The setup that I am using now is changed from what I was using in February. Adler is my main box and it has a printer attached. I can print files from the other boxes on this printer. Attached are the /etc/hosts and /etc/hosts.lpd for adler and /etc/printcap for kingfisher. Note that because kingfisher does not have its own printer I found it convenient to call its remote printer lp so I can just do lpr foo.bar rather than lpr -P foo.bar Note that /etc/hosts.lpd on tazieff must agree with /etc/hosts this was my mistake last time. ie the entry in /etc/hosts.lpd is exactly the same as the field immediately following the IP in /etc/hosts regards, Ken 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.0.1 co3002879-a.myplace co3002879-a 192.168.0.2 longwing.myplacelongwing 192.168.0.3 superchook.myplace superchook 192.168.0.4 kingfisher.myplace kingfisher 192.168.0.5 adler.myplace adler 192.168.0.6 salto.myplace salto # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts # (added automatically by netbase upgrade) ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts superchook.myplace longwing.myplace kingfisher.myplace salto.myplace # /etc/printcap: printer capability database. See printcap(5). # You can use the filter entries df, tf, cf, gf etc. for # your own filters. See /etc/filter.ps, /etc/filter.pcl and # the printcap(5) manual page for further details. #lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\ #:lp=/dev/lp0:\ #:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ #:af=/var/log/lp-acct:\ #:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\ #:pl#66:\ #:pw#80:\ #:pc#150:\ #:mx#0:\ #:sh: lp|Remote printer entry:\ :lp=:\ :rm=adler.myplace:\ :rp=lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:
Re: [SLUG] Video problem
quote who=Simon Bryan Hi, We have just bee trying to install RH7.1 on an old and venerable HP Netserver 5/133 LC. This is simply going to be a Linux terminal in the library to run Netscape and very little else. It is an EISA machine with SCSI HDD and CDROM. When we got to selecting a video, we kept getting errors, so we quit, rebooted and tried startx. This failed as it could not find a screen. We tried re-running the install with a different monitor and noticed that as it started there was a message about unknown card and going to text mode. The person working on this has had to go fro the day so we resume in the morning, but I am assuming that the built-in video card is not compatible with Linux and so we are going to try installing another one. Does this seem a reasonable assumption? If the video card function is integrated with the motherboard you won't be able to use another plug in card unless there is provision on the board to disable the built in one. If you can find the video chip you may be able to set up X by hand (ie not relying on the automatic detection provided by the Red Hat installation program) Another option would be to use this box as a server to serve some X terminals which could be made from old '486 computers. It seems likely that HP would have used one of the common video chipsets so once you you know what chip they used you should be able to get X working. Look for a large chip near the video connector. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Dummy phone line for installfests?
Perhaps the SLUG committee could consider the purchase of a RingMaster PRO for use at installfests. That way a dummy ISP could be simulated and Newbies could set up ppp. Later they would probably have only to change their username, password and the ISP's phone number to get connected. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] A problem with X
Greetings, I have been loading software onto several computers for ComputerBank. On the latest (a debian testing installation) I have a problem with the mouse pointer in X. The computer has an on board video (SiS). Using XFree86-4.1. The pointer appears as a square say 2cm x 2cm made up of 8 horizontal lines alternately dark and light. Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it / regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Printing using CUPS
Thanks for the tip quote who=Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP do you have gui ? Yes but not running KDE or Gnome on this box. check out kups and/or qtcups, there may even be a gnome config. also it should allow administration via the browser http://127.0.0.1:631 if I'm not mistaken is the administration page. You can use lynx to access it too, and has online help in html and pdf format I was able to set up the printer and print a test page using lynx after failing using skipstone and links. (both told me I did'nt have permission but lynx gave me a second chance prompting me for username and password. This tool gave me access to some drivers which probably came with the one of the cups packages. Unfortunately although it made a reasonable job of the test page I still couldn't print ordinary ascii files and as I was running out of time reverted to using lpr and apsfilter. Apsfilter uses filters from ghostscript an produces excellent results. It is very well documented, and of course www.cups.org has the documentation online. IMHO the easiest Unix Printing system around. The quantity of documentation was great and I'm sure I'll eventually work it out but that will be a project for another day. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Corrupt deb system.
quote who=Ken Foskey Linux:~# apt-get install defoma --reinstall Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 48 not upgraded. 2 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/52.4kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 81071 package `tomcat': `Depends' field, reference to `libservlet2.2-java': version contains ` ' E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) As stated earlier my harddisk corrupted itself the other night, required manual fsck to recover. Help. I have seen problems similar to this before. Try editing the file /var/lib/dpkg/available the error will be somewhere near line 81071. By inspection and comparison with the information for other packages you should be able to find the corrupt character and guess what it should have been. Fix it and you should be able to run your apt-get instruction successfully. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Can't boot new kernel
'evening all, This morning I replaced the available kernels on this box. Previously I had 2.2.18pre21 from the original installation and 2.4.7-586 from installing kernel-image-2.4.7-586 (This is on a Debian Unstable system). I now have 2.2.19 and 2.4.10-586 from kernel-image-2.2.19 and kernel-image-2.4.10-586 respectively. I edited /etc/lilo.conf by hand replacing references to 2.2.18pre21 and 2.4.7-586 with 2.2.19 and 2.4.10-586 respectively and ran lilo. The current version of /etc/lilo.conf is attached. I can boot using the 2.2 kernel OK but trying to boot using the 2.4 kernel fails wit a Kernel panic: modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-1 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-1 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-1 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-1 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-1 modprobe: modprobe: can't locate module block-major-3 VFS: Cannot open root device 304 or 03:04 Please append a correct root= boot option Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:04 The net-pf-1 message is repeated so many times that all earlier messages have scrolled off the screen when the process halts. Typing linux-2.4 root=/dev/hda4 at the lilo prompt produces more or less the same result with an additional message about being unable to open hda4. /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.10-586 and /boot/initrd-2.4.10-586 exist as does /lib/modules/2.4.10-586/ Can someone point out what I have got wrong? Ken # /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)', # --- `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/', # and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'. # +---+ # |!! Reminder !! | # | | # | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this | # | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt', or install a new kernel. The | # | computer will most likely fail to boot if a kernel-image | # | post-install script or you don't remember to run `lilo'. | # | | # +---+ # Support LBA for large hard disks. # #lba32 # Specifies the boot device. This is where Lilo installs its boot # block. It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which # case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR. # boot=/dev/hda # Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/') # root=/dev/hda4 # Enable map compaction: # Tries to merge read requests for adjacent sectors into a single # read request. This drastically reduces load time and keeps the # map smaller. Using `compact' is especially recommended when # booting from a floppy disk. It is disabled here by default # because it doesn't always work. # compact # Installs the specified file as the new boot sector # install=/boot/boot.b # Specifies the location of the map file # map=/boot/map # You can set a password here, and uncomment the `restricted' lines # in the image definitions below to make it so that a password must # be typed to boot anything but a default configuration. If a # command line is given, other than one specified by an `append' # statement in `lilo.conf', the password will be required, but a # standard default boot will not require one. # # This will, for instance, prevent anyone with access to the # console from booting with something like `Linux init=/bin/sh', # and thus becoming `root' without proper authorization. # # Note that if you really need this type of security, you will # likely also want to use `install-mbr' to reconfigure the MBR # program, as well as set up your BIOS to disallow booting from # removable disk or CD-ROM, then put a password on getting into the # BIOS configuration as well. Please RTFM `install-mbr(8)'. # # password=tatercounter2000 # Specifies the number of deciseconds (0.1 seconds) LILO should # wait before booting the first image. # # You can put a customized boot message up if you like. If you use # `prompt', and this computer may need to reboot unattended, you # must specify a `timeout', or it will sit there forever waiting # for a keypress. `single-key' goes with the `alias' lines in the # `image' configurations below. eg: You can press `1' to boot # `Linux', `2' to boot `LinuxOLD', if you uncomment the `alias'. # # message=/boot/bootmess.txt prompt # single-key delay=100 timeout=100 # Specifies the VGA text mode at boot time. (normal, extended, ask, mode) # # vga=ask # vga=9 # vga=normal # Kernel command line options that apply to all installed images go # here. See: The `boot-prompt-HOWO' and `kernel-parameters.txt' in # the Linux kernel `Documentation' directory. # # append= # Boot up Linux by default. # default=linux-2.4 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.10-586 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.10-586
[SLUG] Skipstone crashes
Hi, I have been trying various browsers (mozilla, galeon and skipstone) on a computer running Debian (unstable). For the last two or three days skipstone has been unusable as it crashes immediately I try to follow a link. That is to say you can go to a URL by typing it in the window but if you click on a hyperlink the application crashes immediately. Has anyone else observed this? I assume that the application is incompatable with some library upgrade recently as there has been no new version of skipstone recently. I purged and reinstalled the skipstone package in case it had become corrupted but this had no effect. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] What is the best way to install Debian (testing or unstable)?
Hi, I've been wondering about the best way to go about an install of Debian (unstable or testing). What I have done in the past is to start by installing from the latest available CDs. At the point of the install where you get to choose what packages you want choose _nothing_ and end up with a minimal install of stable. Next I edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to a local mirror of testing (or unstable as the case may be) and do apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade When I last tried this the upgrade failed because the scripts could not remove the old version of exim in order to make way for the new. I did dpkg -P exim and when that failed due to dependencies worked back removing things untill exim could be removed. Then did apt-get install (insert here all the packages removed in the previous step) followed by apt-get dist-upgrade again. At this point I have a minimal installation of the testing distribution. Next I switch to using dselect so that I can pick up some recommended and suggested packages along with with the packages I know I want. In the past I have run dselect once without selecting anything in the hope of picking up recommended and suggested packages to go with those already installed. Unfortunately it appears that the default selection contains packages other than those that are there to satisfy dependencies, recommends or suggests from the packages already installed. Is there a way to set the selection to retain the install status for all installed packages and those that would be selected to satisfy depends, recommends, and suggests while removing the others? regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG
* Craige McWhirter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This month we have a talk by Brendan O'Dea, the Debian Perl maintainer, who will be covering intricacies of Packaging Perl for Debian. The talk deals with things like getting perl-policy into the policy process properly, interaction with other programs, debconf for instance and apt's occaisionally bizzare conflict resolution system (specifically upgrade issues from the previous packages). Some discussion on the actual mechanics of the packaging, source formats/patch management upstream issues... and anything he can think of which may be of interest to other developers. Here are the gritty details: Where: Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel - boardroom (upstairs) When: Wednesday, 11th July 19:00 (food from 18:30) Cost: $0, $10 if you pre-order tea/coffee Misc: Dinner, alcohol are available Fasc: Boardroom, power, whiteboard - possibly a TV There is secure-ish parking at the Domain Car Park and street/lot parking around the two pubs. Unfortunately the Domain Car Park closes at 21:00 sharp! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Problem following Debian (testing) upgrade
Earlier today I upgraded another computer running Debian (testing). Now I cannot log in. Before upgrading I logged out from being a normal (non root) user then did ctrl+alt+F1 and logged in as root on VT1. After logging in I did the usual apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and then addeed a few new packages. When I had finished I did alt+F7 without logging out from VT1. I discovered that I could not login as ken or as root getting a login incorrect each time. I can not log in on another VT either. I am still logged in as root on VT1 so I can still work on the system. I have tried changing the password of my user account back to what it was but still cannot login and I have created a new dummy account but cannot log in to it either. The system uses shadow passwords with MD5. Can anyone suggest where I should start looking to isolate the problem? TIA ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Problem following Debian (testing) upgrade
* Angus Lees ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
\begin{Ken Caldwell}
Earlier today I upgraded another computer running Debian (testing).
Now I cannot log in.
I have tried changing the password of my user account back to what
it was but still cannot login and I have created a new dummy account
but cannot log in to it either.
The system uses shadow passwords with MD5.
Can anyone suggest where I should start looking to isolate the problem?
/var/log/auth.log and /etc/pam.d/login
(check the md5 lines are still enabled in /etc/pam.d/login)
thats a pretty severe breakage. what sorts of things did you answer
Yes to during the upgrade?
I don't remember answering any questions. If there were any they must have been
pretty inocuous (sp?) looking. Most of the time I was out of the room! I can't
ftp to or from the box at the moment so I can't attach the logs but it appears that
something has happend to corrupt /lib/security/pam_env.so
the following lines appear where I was trying to login to the newly created account.
Jun 7 20:07:20 adler login[17328]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_env.so)
Jun 7 20:07:20 adler login[17328]: PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_env.so: invalid
ELF header]
Jun 7 20:07:20 adler login[17328]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_env.so
Jun 7 20:07:30 adler login[17328]: FAILED LOGIN (1) on `tty2' FOR `jan', Module is
unknown
It looks like I have either picked up a corrupted file or the hard drive is on the way
out.
ken
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[SLUG] OT Netscape Question
Can anyone on the list throw any light on the following warning? When I go to edit preferences in Netscape 4.72 (Comes with SuSE 6.4) the following warning pops up warning: Name: HorScrollBar Class: XmScrollBar The scroll bar page increment is less than 1 I have not been able to locate either string (HorScrollBar, XmScrollBar) in .Xdefaults, .netscape/preferences.js, .netscape/liprefs.js or in the Help. Everything seems to be working OK anyway but I was just curious about the warning. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Installing without CD drive.
Peter Hardy wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 05:45:41PM +1000, DaZZa wrote:
Only way I could see to do this with any degree of ease would be to use
toms or something similar to make a PPP connection over a null modem cable
to another Linux boxen with a CD drive, then copy the relavent packages to
the hard disk, then run your boot floppy and tell it you're installing
locally.
This is pretty much how I was going to do it. Even the base packages are in
the order of 10 floppies. I'm too lazy to shuffle that many disks, and I
have all the cables I need. But I couldn't see any ppp capability in toms
disks. Which is why I started tinkering with the deb boot disks, with the
goal of maybe installing via nfs (could we get any more evil?).
You'd need two partitions, though - one to put the packages on {maybe you
could reuse it later for swap, if you're doing a minimal enough
installation and can keep the size down}, and one to do the install on.
Also considered using the swap partition. But it would be possible, and
fairly simple, to just ext2 format the root partition, and dump all the base
packages into /base, or somesuch. Then I get to actually use the swap,
which will be handy.
Peter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The latest version of toms is 1.7.354 it contains a lot of new goodies.
It doesn't appear to have ppp but it does have both slattach and plip.
Ken
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[SLUG] Re: [ANN] Debian SIG Initial Meeting Details
Here are the gritty details: Where: Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel - boardroom (upstairs) When: Wednesday, 16th May 19:00 Cost: $0, $10 if you pre-order tea/coffee Misc: Dinner, alcohol are available Fasc: Boardroom, power, whiteboard - possibly a TV Agenda: There is none yet, except for those interested to come along and work out what they would like to see the SIG do. Ah, and decide whether the venue/time/day of week are the most suitable. I'd also like to call for anyone interested in giving a 30min talk on something Debian related. After recent discussions, Becoming a Debian Maintainer may be a good initial one ;) A penny for all your thoughts and ideas. I hope to see as many of you there as possible :) Can anyone with direct knowledge comment on the availability of parking in the area? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] One floppy micro distribution
'Evening All, I have been trying to create a new one floppy distribution with mixed success. The disk is intended as a learning tool rather than as a normal rescue disk. Some proposed features are: 1) A real login so that the difference between being a normal user and root can be demonstrated. 2) Two different methods of booting the disk. (Directly from power up if the BIOS has been set to permit booting from the floppy or from DOS otherwise) So far I have made two working boot disks, one 1440k (80 tracks of 18 sectors) and the other 1722k (82 tracks of 21 sectors). Both have a dos FAT12 filesystem and the syslinux boot loader. Both contain the same files: ldlinux.sys --- the syslinux executable syslinux.cfg --- the syslinux configuration file syslinux.dpy --- a small welcome message loadlin.exe --- the loadlin-1.6 executable linux.bat--- a batch file to call loadlin.exe root.gz --- a compressed minix filesystem zlinux --- a compressed kernel The syslinux.cfg file contains two lines: DEFAULT zimage root=/dev/ram0 initrd=root.gz DISPLAY syslinux.dpy and the linux.bat file contains just loadlin zimage root=/dev/ram0 rw initrd=root.gz The root filesystem on these disks is from an old slackware system where it was named rescue.gz and the compressed kernel is a 2.0.34 taken from a New Zealand distribution called Basic Linux. The next stage of the project is to replace the root filesystem with a new one built from the latest version of busybox (0.51) and tinylogin using libc5. The kernel is to be replaced with 2.0.39 from tomsrtbt. Here is where I have run into trouble. After unpacking tomsrtbt.raw, I copy the kernel zImage to my disk renaming it to zimage to replace the 2.0.34 kernel. When I try to boot from the new disk the system hangs after displaying VFS:Mounted root (minix filesystem) _ If I stick with the old kernel and change the root filesystem to my new one I get a similar failure. In an attempt to check the new filesystem I have tried to chroot to it without success. The tree descends from /home/ken/kenslin/ and the shell is the busybox shell which appears as bin/sh. I can, as root, do # home/ken/kenslin/bin/sh and find myself in a busybox shell but if I do # chroot /home/ken/kenslin/ /bin/sh I get chroot: cannot execute /bin/sh: No such file or directory Can anyone shed any light on these problems? TIA ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: 1722k syslinux boot disk
Ken Caldwell wrote: Hi, Does anyone on the list know how to make one? I can follow the syslinux doco and make a 1440k bootdisk. (format the disk under DOS with the /s switch first) I can also make a dos formatted 1722k disk using superformat under linux. Unfortunately I can't format a 1722k disk under DOS. I _think_ the /s switch writes something to the bootsector as well as copying on the DOS system files. The latter will be replaced by the syslinux loader so I should not really need to use DOS at all if I can get an appropriate boot sector. Problem solved. There is an error in the doco (or my reading of it?) There is no need to create a _bootable_ floppy under DOS before running syslinux. You only have to make a plain dos formatted disk using for example superformat and running syslinux on that. Now to try my hand at making a micro distribution similar to tom's. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] 1722k syslinux boot disk
Hi, Does anyone on the list know how to make one? I can follow the syslinux doco and make a 1440k bootdisk. (format the disk under DOS with the /s switch first) I can also make a dos formatted 1722k disk using superformat under linux. Unfortunately I can't format a 1722k disk under DOS. I _think_ the /s switch writes something to the bootsector as well as copying on the DOS system files. The latter will be replaced by the syslinux loader so I should not really need to use DOS at all if I can get an appropriate boot sector. TIA Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Looking for a network card.
Does anyone on the list have an old network card that will work in an IBM box using the mca bus? I have just aquired an old IBM PS/V that I would like to connect to my home network. The Ethernet HOWTO mentions several supported cards. TIA Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Running X from tomsrtbt
Sorry for the delayed reply I have been away for a few days. Anand Kumria wrote: On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 04:43:32PM +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote: Having created a Python addon floppy to go with my tomsrtbt system I thought I would see If I could run X and thus be able to experiment with Tkinter. I have managed to get it working except that the backspace, delete and arrow keys are not working. e.g. instead of deleting, backspace prints ^[[3~. Sounds interesting. How did easy did you find it 'reverse engineering' the bootdisk? I don't think I could dignify my efforts as _any_ kind of engineering. All that I have done so far is rather inelegant to say the least but I could write it up if anyone is interested. I think a new mini or micro distribution is the way to go but I will make that the subject of a new thread, possibly on SLUG-CHAT. The whole /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 tree has been copied from a working Debian 1.3 system. Hmm, Debian 1.3 is/rather old. Apparently there has been some see-sawing with Debian and how it should behave with xterm in different versions. Do you have access to a later version of the X heirarchy to tree? Yes but I was trying to use stuff that would be compatable with everything else. (2.0.x kernel libc5 etc) BTW Tom has released a new version of tomsrtbt (1.7.250) but it hadn't reached the aarnet mirror this morning. He has replaced some of the awk scripts with lua scripts. Haven't heard of lua - care to explain? Anand lua appears to be yet another scripting language. Tom Oehser intends rewriting some or all of the mawk scripts on his disk with lua scripts. So far he seems to have been able to add even more functionality to the disk by doing this. The lua homepage is at http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/lua/ regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Running X from tomsrtbt
Having created a Python addon floppy to go with my tomsrtbt system I thought I would see If I could run X and thus be able to experiment with Tkinter. I have managed to get it working except that the backspace, delete and arrow keys are not working. e.g. instead of deleting, backspace prints ^[[3~. I went back to virtual terminal #1 by doing ctrl+alt+F1 and saw as the last two lines from the X server /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp: can't resolve symbol 'XkbLibraryVersion' Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap The whole /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 "tree" has been copied from a working Debian 1.3 system. The XF86Config file is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config rather than the usual /etc/X11/XF86Config but it is obviously being read because the mouse (MouseSystems) works OK. The relevant section of the XF86Config file is fairly standard: Section "Keyboard" Protocol"Standard" XkbRules"xfree86" XkbModel"pc 102" XkbLayout "us" End Section What is xkbcomp looking for that it can't find? X is working OK on the Debian 1.3 system. Once I have X working properly I plan to remove unnecessary files from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. At the moment toms + python + X uses up over 26MB of RAM BTW Tom has released a new version of tomsrtbt (1.7.250) but it hadn't reached the aarnet mirror this morning. He has replaced some of the awk scripts with lua scripts. regards, Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Multiple graphical logins
Does anyone know how to do multiple graphical logins under SuSE 6.4? (ie run kdm on virtual terminals 7 and 8) You can do this under Debian (and some other distributions) by editing /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers but I haven't found how to achieve the same result under SuSE 6.4. SuSE uses KDE stuff which resides in /opt/kde but I could not find analogous config files nor any mention in the book that came with the distro. I guess it's not a common requirement. I would like to be able to press ctrl+alt+F8 when my daughter wants to check her email. She can then login check her mail and log out and I can press ctrl+alt+F7 and continue where I left off. clues anyone? TIA Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Editing python scripts in emacs
Angus Lees wrote:
\begin{Jeff Waugh}
quote who="Ken Caldwell"
At the moment dpkg -l shows emacs20 and emacsen-common installed. I did
not see any packages containing "emacs" and "python" what should I be
looking for?
lazarus: ~
$ apt-cache search emacs | grep python
python-elisp - Emacs-lisp python-mode for the scripting language Python.
python2-elisp - Emacs-lisp python-mode for the scripting language Python2.
task-python - Python script development environment
the xemacs21 package that i use already includes python-mode
I should have responded to Jeff's posting earlier. python-elisp
provided the support I was looking for.
thanks,
Ken
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[SLUG] Editing python scripts in emacs
I'm trying to learn python and was planning to edit some python scripts using emacs. The box I will be using is running Debian unstable. Emacs does not seem to have a python mode. I assume such exists? what packages should I look for? At the moment dpkg -l shows emacs20 and emacsen-common installed. I did not see any packages containing "emacs" and "python" what should I be looking for? TIA Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
