Re: UPLOADING websites
Le 30/03/2010, John a supposé : When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont always know. There are programs in Windows which perform automatically what you request. (google is your friend) This functionality doesn't has it's place in SeaMonkey, unless somebody makes an addon for it. -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.
isuy wrote: https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize When I click the link above, I get this message: Your browser is not supported at this time. Browser identifier:mozsea Browser version:1.9.1.8 Browser major version:1 Browser minor version:9.1.8 Browser engine:gecko Browser engine version:20100222 Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us; rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3 Operating system identifier:linux Operating system version:unknown Is Flash installed? Yes Flash version:0 Are popups allowed for this site?Yes Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8 Supported Browsers: name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0 name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12 Try Coral IE Tabs for this... which worked for me. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
Daniel wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Daniel wrote: Many moon's ago, I heard that Dreamweaver produced poor HTML, too, so is there a menu item for Fix Dreamweaver HTML?? Do extraneou's apo'strophe's in'serted into plural's count a's bloat? Now! Now! One apostrophe (extraneous or not) is no great crime, is it?? Isn't it worth the life of one apostrophe? And if you add up all the extraneou's apo'strophe's posted each and every day, you have used up the bandwidth for the entire works of Shakespeare! Every day! http://tekrider.net/general/checker.php#grocer ;-) -- -bts -Feral apostrophes are contagious; take your medication ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update
David E. Ross wrote: Thank you for including the hash of the partial .mar files in the MD5SUMS file. I don't think i changed my script that are generating this, but I'm happy you're happy ;-) Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update
Nice. Yay for fixing the addressbook with primary and secondary addresses. :) -- To the ant, a few drops of dew is a flood. --Iranian /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.
Report it to Mozilla and the Web site's people. On 3/30/2010 8:38 PM PT, isuy typed: https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize When I click the link above, I get this message: Your browser is not supported at this time. Browser identifier:mozsea Browser version:1.9.1.8 Browser major version:1 Browser minor version:9.1.8 Browser engine:gecko Browser engine version:20100222 Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us; rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3 Operating system identifier:linux Operating system version:unknown Is Flash installed? Yes Flash version:0 Are popups allowed for this site?Yes Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8 Supported Browsers: name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0 name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12 -- To the ant, a few drops of dew is a flood. --Iranian /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:45:59 -0400, BeeNeR wrote: On or about 3/30/2010 9:33 PM, John typed the following: In article i46dnwnmw8vtcs_wnz2dnuvz_qodn...@mozilla.org, BeeNeR w3...@verizon.net wrote: Have you tried FireFTP? It works with SM 2.x.x http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I wnat this capability built into sea monkey. in that case, the answer to your question is probably never. SeaMonkey is a combination Mail/News program and Net Browser program sort of rolled into one. That's the way it should stay. Not everyone wants a lot of other bells and whistles. KISS. Add-ons, extensions, other themes, etc. are great! If you want 'em - you got 'em. If you don't want 'em - you don't get 'em. I want it all rolled into the OS, so I don't have to open programs to do different things all the time, and I want it NOW! LOL! -- openSUSE 11.2x86_64 (Gnome 2.28.2) | AMD Athlon(tm) 64 3000+ | 2GB RAM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Daniel wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Daniel wrote: Many moon's ago, I heard that Dreamweaver produced poor HTML, too, so is there a menu item for Fix Dreamweaver HTML?? Do extraneou's apo'strophe's in'serted into plural's count a's bloat? Now! Now! One apostrophe (extraneous or not) is no great crime, is it?? Isn't it worth the life of one apostrophe? And if you add up all the extraneou's apo'strophe's posted each and every day, you have used up the bandwidth for the entire works of Shakespeare! Every day! http://tekrider.net/general/checker.php#grocer ;-) I noticed you left out an item in your list on the site referring to Soul| Sole you have listed Sole is a Flatfish) there is also the *sole* of your shoe(s) as well. I'll admit to no being a good proofreader. I can proofread a document 3-4 times and not see the error until it posted or written. In my mind's eye I see what I intended, even if its not. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.
On 3/30/10 7:38 PM, isuy wrote: https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize When I click the link above, I get this message: Your browser is not supported at this time. Browser identifier:mozsea Browser version:1.9.1.8 Browser major version:1 Browser minor version:9.1.8 Browser engine:gecko Browser engine version:20100222 Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us; rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3 Operating system identifier:linux Operating system version:unknown Is Flash installed? Yes Flash version:0 Are popups allowed for this site?Yes Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8 Supported Browsers: name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0 name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12 I don't get the problem if I spoof Firefox with the following UA string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3, NOT Firefox/3.5.6 This is clearly a case of invalid sniffing. Since I am a Time Warner customer, I will submit a bug report later today. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update
Robert Kaiser wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Thank you for including the hash of the partial .mar files in the MD5SUMS file. I don't think i changed my script that are generating this, but I'm happy you're happy ;-) Robert Kaiser Robert, I know you guys get tons of grief over your work on SeaMonkey. Let me tell ya, I am THRILLED, overall with 2.0! I LOVE that when it crashes, it picks right back up where it left off...with the same tabs you were on. I LOVE that you can bring back a recently closed tab. I love many other features, and I just thought I'd take a moment to let you know us mostly-silent majority appreciate this product immensely!!! -George ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: http://tekrider.net/general/checker.php#grocer ;-) I noticed you left out an item in your list on the site referring to Soul| Sole you have listed Sole is a Flatfish) there is also the *sole* of your shoe(s) as well. You are the soul person to mention that! :-) I think I picked the 'flatfish' because it is so less a common usage than the shoe part. I'll admit to no [sic] being a good proofreader. I can proofread a document 3-4 times and not see the error until it [ ] posted or written. In my mind's eye I see what I intended, even if its [sic] not. It happens to the best of us. I do see you could make use one of those extra apostrophes, though. g -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the sole ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Frozen SeaMonkey v2.0.3 in Linux with Photobucket.com's videos?
On 3/31/2010 8:11 AM PT, Phillip Jones typed: a Bunch of BS. I went in using SM2 on Mac OX.4.11. And it worked fine it stopped three time to load buffer cache for quicktime. but other than that worked just fine. You weren't using Linux. You were using Mac OS X. Of course, it worked for you. Yes but the only difference is That the Mac OS just use the Apple's GUI interface on FreeBSD UNIX. and by rights its shouldn't work as it been reported it doesn't work on UNIX/Linux) actually, it's a three part system: it has the Mach kernel taken from NextStep at the very core, Then FreeBSD UNIX sits in the Middle then the Mac GUI (Finder) sits on top. I don't know if it freezes in UNIX. So far, only Linux. Maybe it's X-related in Linux? [shrugs] -- Since the world began, we have never exterminated. We probably shall never exterminate as much as one single insect species. If there was ever an example of an insect we cannot destroy, the fire ant is it. --an entomologist quote mentioned by Leonard Nimoy on In The Search Of: Deadly Ants (1978) /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
On 10-03-31 11:22 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: http://tekrider.net/general/checker.php#grocer ;-) I noticed you left out an item in your list on the site referring to Soul| Sole you have listed Sole is a Flatfish) there is also the *sole* of your shoe(s) as well. You are the soul person to mention that! :-) I think I picked the 'flatfish' because it is so less a common usage than the shoe part. I'll admit to no [sic] being a good proofreader. I can proofread a document 3-4 times and not see the error until it [ ] posted or written. In my mind's eye I see what I intended, even if its [sic] not. It happens to the best of us. I do see you could make use one of those extra apostrophes, though.g Guys, this discussion is OT. Please take it somewhere else. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update
George Carden wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Thank you for including the hash of the partial .mar files in the MD5SUMS file. I don't think i changed my script that are generating this, but I'm happy you're happy ;-) Robert Kaiser Robert, I know you guys get tons of grief over your work on SeaMonkey. Let me tell ya, I am THRILLED, overall with 2.0! I LOVE that when it crashes, it picks right back up where it left off...with the same tabs you were on. I LOVE that you can bring back a recently closed tab. I love many other features, and I just thought I'd take a moment to let you know us mostly-silent majority appreciate this product immensely!!! -George HEAR! HEAR! I enthusiastically second George's message! bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A pop up alive forever
Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2. NO !!! Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled Sending Messages -mail-subject with Status: Copy complete Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar] is visible. The mail is well sent. The copy of the mail in the Sent box is done. This pop-up did on end ... - What could we do with this bug ? I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the mail but doesn't return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will complete if you leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a server problem. I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is my own, and doesn't hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when it finally completes there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a completion message and socket teardown. I have let it run for ten minutes and went on with other messages receiving and sending replies. Its a bug. I've been using the same ISP which has the same SMTP Server , update equipment and software over the years. Same here... it's been happening on my regular server/ISP since version 1.1.14, through the latest release SM 2.0.4. bj Therefore, it's a SM bug ... and no hope for a solution . :-( Nohope, because, it needs votes and interesting developers ... Not the same for New Features ... more fancy, more chances to be implemented rapidly. Oh, I don't know. If Phillip would post his bugzilla report no. here, we might get more support for a fix, and attract the attention of someone who could fix it. Anyway, it couldn't hurt. :) I have to say though, that's pretty random for me, and I'd prefer to know why my browser switches to my e-mail window, when some commercial popups come up at various sites. ;) Obviously, they weren't blocked, yet SM sometimes says they are, and other times not. [The same ad, same site.] bj The problem is that this doesn't kill SeaMonkey. It just stay on the screen with the progress bar still running and say copy is complete. And I have let it run for ten minutes on it own just to see if it would die own it own. I just switched away and let run. It didn't affect reading and posting to other messages. No is no crash report for it to send. I've been posting my about crash items as soon as I get a crash, for the last several times. I would send error reports from the web development console but it doesn't give a method to make a copy. I know... I'm sorry I brought up *another* topic in this thread. I have exactly the same problem you have with copy complete popups. About the bugzilla report, I meant, if you would give the number that was assigned to your report of this problem, other people could find it, and log their comments in over there... on the bugzilla site. bj Look for Bug number 544783 feel free to make comments to refine details I am not exactly a Rocket scientist so My wording may be different than it should be. Your wording is just fine, and you have provided ample information at bugzilla on the copy complete hangup. So I just confirmed that I have the same problem, and hopefully others will to. If enough people report it, someone may look into it later on. :) Thanks for providing the number to look up! Surprisingly, I had a hard time finding the bugzilla site this morning, since everything looked different from the last time I was there.:) bj I added a Comment noting the theme I was using. and theme I used in SM1 which were different than yours its not theme related. I didn't think so either, but they need/want as much information as possible when looking at problems. :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x
I have discussion in the puppy linux forum about SM security. A forum member claims that the developers say: *even the devs are saying it is not secure enough.* I did a test with this link: http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/ on my SM 2.0.. SM 2.0.3 passed all tests ok. Is this a valid test link? Are there others? What is your opinion? -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x
Bernard Mercier a écrit : I have discussion in the puppy linux forum about SM security. A forum member claims that the developers say: *even the devs are saying it is not secure enough.* I did a test with this link: http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/ on my SM 2.0.. SM 2.0.3 passed all tests ok. Is this a valid test link? Are there others? What is your opinion? The person was merely speaking about the End Of Life of SM 1.x -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A pop up alive forever
chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2. NO !!! Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled Sending Messages -mail-subject with Status: Copy complete Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar] is visible. The mail is well sent. The copy of the mail in the Sent box is done. This pop-up did on end ... - What could we do with this bug ? I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the mail but doesn't return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will complete if you leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a server problem. I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is my own, and doesn't hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when it finally completes there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a completion message and socket teardown. I have let it run for ten minutes and went on with other messages receiving and sending replies. Its a bug. I've been using the same ISP which has the same SMTP Server , update equipment and software over the years. Same here... it's been happening on my regular server/ISP since version 1.1.14, through the latest release SM 2.0.4. bj Therefore, it's a SM bug ... and no hope for a solution . :-( Nohope, because, it needs votes and interesting developers ... Not the same for New Features ... more fancy, more chances to be implemented rapidly. Oh, I don't know. If Phillip would post his bugzilla report no. here, we might get more support for a fix, and attract the attention of someone who could fix it. Anyway, it couldn't hurt. :) I have to say though, that's pretty random for me, and I'd prefer to know why my browser switches to my e-mail window, when some commercial popups come up at various sites. ;) Obviously, they weren't blocked, yet SM sometimes says they are, and other times not. [The same ad, same site.] bj The problem is that this doesn't kill SeaMonkey. It just stay on the screen with the progress bar still running and say copy is complete. And I have let it run for ten minutes on it own just to see if it would die own it own. I just switched away and let run. It didn't affect reading and posting to other messages. No is no crash report for it to send. I've been posting my about crash items as soon as I get a crash, for the last several times. I would send error reports from the web development console but it doesn't give a method to make a copy. I know... I'm sorry I brought up *another* topic in this thread. I have exactly the same problem you have with copy complete popups. About the bugzilla report, I meant, if you would give the number that was assigned to your report of this problem, other people could find it, and log their comments in over there... on the bugzilla site. bj Look for Bug number 544783 feel free to make comments to refine details I am not exactly a Rocket scientist so My wording may be different than it should be. Your wording is just fine, and you have provided ample information at bugzilla on the copy complete hangup. So I just confirmed that I have the same problem, and hopefully others will to. If enough people report it, someone may look into it later on. :) Thanks for providing the number to look up! Surprisingly, I had a hard time finding the bugzilla site this morning, since everything looked different from the last time I was there.:) bj I added a Comment noting the theme I was using. and theme I used in SM1 which were different than yours its not theme related. I didn't think so either, but they need/want as much information as possible when looking at problems. :) bj Absolutely. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/30/10 7:38 PM, isuy wrote: https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize When I click the link above, I get this message: Your browser is not supported at this time. Browser identifier:mozsea Browser version:1.9.1.8 Browser major version:1 Browser minor version:9.1.8 Browser engine:gecko Browser engine version:20100222 Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us; rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3 Operating system identifier:linux Operating system version:unknown Is Flash installed? Yes Flash version:0 Are popups allowed for this site?Yes Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8 Supported Browsers: name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0 name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12 I don't get the problem if I spoof Firefox with the following UA string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3, NOT Firefox/3.5.6 This is clearly a case of invalid sniffing. Since I am a Time Warner customer, I will submit a bug report later today. I've just gone to the Time-Warner Cable home page and it loaded just fine. I also went to the Time-Warner headquarters site home page and it worked just fine. Note I am using 2.0.4 SM. doesn't 2.03 use gecko 1.1.8 and 2.0.4 use 1.1.9 (the same as in the latest FireFox. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update
chicagofan wrote: George Carden wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Thank you for including the hash of the partial .mar files in the MD5SUMS file. I don't think i changed my script that are generating this, but I'm happy you're happy ;-) Robert Kaiser Robert, I know you guys get tons of grief over your work on SeaMonkey. Let me tell ya, I am THRILLED, overall with 2.0! I LOVE that when it crashes, it picks right back up where it left off...with the same tabs you were on. I LOVE that you can bring back a recently closed tab. I love many other features, and I just thought I'd take a moment to let you know us mostly-silent majority appreciate this product immensely!!! -George HEAR! HEAR! I enthusiastically second George's message! bj It shouldn't be crashing at all. But its new code and it will take a long long time to get it all out. But it is a Great improvement (with the exception of the forms manager which was ripped out -thanks to two extensions that are almost getting it all back). I have notice with 2.0.4 with web pages load a tad faster. and emails/news posts do as well. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!
Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2. NO !!! Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled Sending Messages -mail-subject with Status: Copy complete Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar] is visible. The mail is well sent. The copy of the mail in the Sent box is done. This pop-up did on end ... - What could we do with this bug ? I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the mail but doesn't return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will complete if you leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a server problem. I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is my own, and doesn't hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when it finally completes there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a completion message and socket teardown. I have let it run for ten minutes and went on with other messages receiving and sending replies. Its a bug. I've been using the same ISP which has the same SMTP Server , update equipment and software over the years. Same here... it's been happening on my regular server/ISP since version 1.1.14, through the latest release SM 2.0.4. bj Therefore, it's a SM bug ... and no hope for a solution . :-( Nohope, because, it needs votes and interesting developers ... Not the same for New Features ... more fancy, more chances to be implemented rapidly. Oh, I don't know. If Phillip would post his bugzilla report no. here, we might get more support for a fix, and attract the attention of someone who could fix it. Anyway, it couldn't hurt. :) I have to say though, that's pretty random for me, and I'd prefer to know why my browser switches to my e-mail window, when some commercial popups come up at various sites. ;) Obviously, they weren't blocked, yet SM sometimes says they are, and other times not. [The same ad, same site.] bj The problem is that this doesn't kill SeaMonkey. It just stay on the screen with the progress bar still running and say copy is complete. And I have let it run for ten minutes on it own just to see if it would die own it own. I just switched away and let run. It didn't affect reading and posting to other messages. No is no crash report for it to send. I've been posting my about crash items as soon as I get a crash, for the last several times. I would send error reports from the web development console but it doesn't give a method to make a copy. I know... I'm sorry I brought up *another* topic in this thread. I have exactly the same problem you have with copy complete popups. About the bugzilla report, I meant, if you would give the number that was assigned to your report of this problem, other people could find it, and log their comments in over there... on the bugzilla site. bj Look for Bug number 544783 feel free to make comments to refine details I am not exactly a Rocket scientist so My wording may be different than it should be. Your wording is just fine, and you have provided ample information at bugzilla on the copy complete hangup. So I just confirmed that I have the same problem, and hopefully others will to. If enough people report it, someone may look into it later on. :) Thanks for providing the number to look up! Surprisingly, I had a hard time finding the bugzilla site this morning, since everything looked different from the last time I was there.:) bj I added a Comment noting the theme I was using. and theme I used in SM1 which were different than yours its not theme related. I didn't think so either, but they need/want as much information as possible when looking at problems. :) bj Absolutely. Or do you really want to keep sending 117 lines to say one word? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!
Paul B. Gallagher avait écrit le 31/03/2010 : Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: chicagofan wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2. NO !!! Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled Sending Messages -mail-subject with Status: Copy complete Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar] is visible. The mail is well sent. The copy of the mail in the Sent box is done. This pop-up did on end ... - What could we do with this bug ? I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the mail but doesn't return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will complete if you leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a server problem. I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is my own, and doesn't hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when it finally completes there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a completion message and socket teardown. I have let it run for ten minutes and went on with other messages receiving and sending replies. Its a bug. I've been using the same ISP which has the same SMTP Server , update equipment and software over the years. Same here... it's been happening on my regular server/ISP since version 1.1.14, through the latest release SM 2.0.4. bj Therefore, it's a SM bug ... and no hope for a solution . :-( Nohope, because, it needs votes and interesting developers ... Not the same for New Features ... more fancy, more chances to be implemented rapidly. Oh, I don't know. If Phillip would post his bugzilla report no. here, we might get more support for a fix, and attract the attention of someone who could fix it. Anyway, it couldn't hurt. :) I have to say though, that's pretty random for me, and I'd prefer to know why my browser switches to my e-mail window, when some commercial popups come up at various sites. ;) Obviously, they weren't blocked, yet SM sometimes says they are, and other times not. [The same ad, same site.] bj The problem is that this doesn't kill SeaMonkey. It just stay on the screen with the progress bar still running and say copy is complete. And I have let it run for ten minutes on it own just to see if it would die own it own. I just switched away and let run. It didn't affect reading and posting to other messages. No is no crash report for it to send. I've been posting my about crash items as soon as I get a crash, for the last several times. I would send error reports from the web development console but it doesn't give a method to make a copy. I know... I'm sorry I brought up *another* topic in this thread. I have exactly the same problem you have with copy complete popups. About the bugzilla report, I meant, if you would give the number that was assigned to your report of this problem, other people could find it, and log their comments in over there... on the bugzilla site. bj Look for Bug number 544783 feel free to make comments to refine details I am not exactly a Rocket scientist so My wording may be different than it should be. Your wording is just fine, and you have provided ample information at bugzilla on the copy complete hangup. So I just confirmed that I have the same problem, and hopefully others will to. If enough people report it, someone may look into it later on. :) Thanks for providing the number to look up! Surprisingly, I had a hard time finding the bugzilla site this morning, since everything looked different from the last time I was there.:) bj I added a Comment noting the theme I was using. and theme I used in SM1 which were different than yours its not theme related. I didn't think so either, but they need/want as much information as possible when looking at problems. :) bj Absolutely. Or do you really want to keep sending 117 lines to say one word? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. I remember a time where the 'Champions' formely requested to leave the thread in tact. This way they could take the last post in a thread and read the whole story, which did save them time. I don't know if the actual 'Champions' have the same request still. -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.
On 3/31/10 9:05 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/30/10 7:38 PM, isuy wrote: https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize When I click the link above, I get this message: Your browser is not supported at this time. Browser identifier:mozsea Browser version:1.9.1.8 Browser major version:1 Browser minor version:9.1.8 Browser engine:gecko Browser engine version:20100222 Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us; rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3 Operating system identifier:linux Operating system version:unknown Is Flash installed? Yes Flash version:0 Are popups allowed for this site?Yes Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8 Supported Browsers: name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0 name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12 I don't get the problem if I spoof Firefox with the following UA string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3, NOT Firefox/3.5.6 This is clearly a case of invalid sniffing. Since I am a Time Warner customer, I will submit a bug report later today. I've just gone to the Time-Warner Cable home page and it loaded just fine. I also went to the Time-Warner headquarters site home page and it worked just fine. Note I am using 2.0.4 SM. doesn't 2.03 use gecko 1.1.8 and 2.0.4 use 1.1.9 (the same as in the latest FireFox. The problem is not in the Time Warner Cable site itself. The problem is in the outsourced PayXpress Bill Pay payment site operated by Convergent Care. If you tried the link in the original message, you would see the problem. This is now bug #556316. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556316. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
John wrote: In articleabwdnf9ym5rq8y_wnz2dnuvz_hudn...@mozilla.org, Ray_Nettbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: John wrote: When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont always know. Use FileZilla free and perfect use for this purpose. That was not the question. I know ... but this is the only possibility you have. SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help ref SeaMonkey/Fire Fox command
Lee wrote: Hi Ray, OK copied and put it in and I assume it works but one question do I put in the NOT I copied it exactly as you wrote it and I assume that was the way it was supposed to be but I just was not sure about the NOT Thanks again for taking the time. Ray_Net wrote: Lee wrote: what is the command and where do I install it? If I remember it is in the about: config and I have to enter a command making the web site think I am using Fire Fox while I am using Sea Monkey Would you please post it. Thanks for assistance about:config --- New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox - user set - string - NOT Firefox/2.0.0.12 or other version like 3.5 The solution i gave is the fast one without installing ... a not needed extension. The word NOT is there to inform humans that your browser is SeaMonkey and NOT Firefox when in the same time, the software recognize the Firefox string, and think (wrongly) that you use Firefox. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/31/10 9:05 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/30/10 7:38 PM, isuy wrote: https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize When I click the link above, I get this message: Your browser is not supported at this time. Browser identifier:mozsea Browser version:1.9.1.8 Browser major version:1 Browser minor version:9.1.8 Browser engine:gecko Browser engine version:20100222 Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us; rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3 Operating system identifier:linux Operating system version:unknown Is Flash installed? Yes Flash version:0 Are popups allowed for this site?Yes Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8 Supported Browsers: name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0 name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13 name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12 I don't get the problem if I spoof Firefox with the following UA string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3, NOT Firefox/3.5.6 This is clearly a case of invalid sniffing. Since I am a Time Warner customer, I will submit a bug report later today. I've just gone to the Time-Warner Cable home page and it loaded just fine. I also went to the Time-Warner headquarters site home page and it worked just fine. Note I am using 2.0.4 SM. doesn't 2.03 use gecko 1.1.8 and 2.0.4 use 1.1.9 (the same as in the latest FireFox. The problem is not in the Time Warner Cable site itself. The problem is in the outsourced PayXpress Bill Pay payment site operated by Convergent Care. If you tried the link in the original message, you would see the problem. This is now bug #556316. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556316. That was like Suntrust was for me on SM 1 Had to use ad on the end of the UA string /.not Firefox 2.0 Now with SM2 there is no problem. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Or do you really want to keep sending 117 lines to say one word? well the 17 lines refer to a problem concerning a bug about the progress window that stay open even after a post is sent. the history is needed so people coming to table late can figure the history of the thread. as I said in Support you don't trim. regardless of that the guideline say. Its a support question I have SM set to remove headers after 7 days. so in order to find the original history of a thread that excessively trimmed, I have to rebuild the MSF file and accept all the headers the choose a Date to cut off marking the threads as read . You folks just don't get it. instead of scrolling click some where in message and hit end key takes you right to the bottom. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!
Bernard Mercier wrote: ---snip--- I remember a time where the 'Champions' formely requested to leave the thread in tact. This way they could take the last post in a thread and read the whole story, which did save them time. I don't know if the actual 'Champions' have the same request still. They have run off the Champions off Mozilla don't need them anymore. what few are let are largely ignored by moderators and the honchos at Mozilla. That program was back a netscape where a sense of community was desired and fostered. At Mozilla if they run people off , no skin off their nose. Except those that get run off because of disenchantment, and bad treatment go to products other than Mozilla. They can't seem to Grasp That concept. sigh very sad indeed. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x
Bernard Mercier wrote: I have discussion in the puppy linux forum about SM security. You use *Puppy* and you're worried about *security*?? http://google.com/search?q=cache:gp3jKi0UjncJ:www.linux.com/archive/feature/137880+*-*-not-meant-*-*-*-*-*-*-*.*-*-*+inc+Unix.permissions+running-*-*-root-*+Single.User-Mode+*-*-*-destroy-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-.*.*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*.*-*-*-.*-*.*-*.*-*-*-*.*-*-*-*-*+sudo+writable-*+inc+turkey+*.*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-separate-*-accounts.*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+inc+*-*-*-*-*-touted-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+*-root-*-account+*-shares-*-*-*-*-Win95+*-*-*-*-*.*-*-*-*-convinced-*-*-*+inc+*-*-*-*-puzzling+Grafpup.a-*-*-*+*-Barnum-*-*strip=1 http://tinyurl.com/Puppy-AsSecureAsWin9x http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/137880 At least say you're using the multi-user puplet. http://google.com/search?q=%22+puppy-4.2.1-MULTIUSER-r3.iso ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.
Phillip Jones wrote: doesn't 2.03 use gecko 1.1.8 and 2.0.4 use 1.1.9 (the same as in the latest FireFox. Close, but no cigar. You've either got too few or too many dots and ones in there. SeaMonkey 1.x -- Gecko 1.8 SeaMonkey 2.0.3 -- Gecko 1.9 (aka 1.9.1.8) SeaMonkey 2.0.4 -- Gecko 1.9 (aka 1.9.1.9) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!
In news:b9cdnzobmlmlsi7wnz2dnuvz_q2dn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Or do you really want to keep sending 117 lines to say one word? well the 17 lines refer to a problem concerning a bug about the progress window that stay open even after a post is sent. 117 lines, not 17. the history is needed so people coming to table late can figure the history of the thread. as I said in Support you don't trim. regardless of that the guideline say. Phillip, *please* stop encouraging people to violate netiquette guidelines here. And if you want to post about how bad/wrong/whatever you think the netiquette guidelines are, use mozilla.general. I've crossposted and set followups to there. -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign\ / against html e-mail X http://www.asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
seamonkey 2.04 Tabs are back
2.04 has brought TABS back... I hate Tabes.. Can someone remind me of How I got rid of them in 2.03? In preference Tab browsing Has nothing to Get Rid of the Tabs ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
On 3/19/2010 11:41 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/18/2010 10:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... ...make that 1.1.18. Do you have a a Panther or Jaguar machine up and running? If so, could you try installing 1.1.19 on them? My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Ok, lets narrow down point of failure; if we can. Can you try loading the following on your mac (Where SeaMonkey 1.1.19 doesn't work): * Thunderbird at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/2.0.0.24/mac/en-US/ * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ Let me know your success/failure on both of those please. Overheard on IRC... likely *is* relevant: [20:37:24] firebot Thunderbird: 'MacOSX 10.5 comm-central check' has changed state from Success to Test Failed. [20:51:55] justdaveTB 3.x run on OS X 10.3.9? [20:57:07] |-- ewong_w|afk has left irc.mozilla.org (Quit: Reboot.) [20:59:10] --| davida_ (dasc...@moz-b84bb441.stc.novuscom.net) has joined #maildev [20:59:28] |-- davida_ has left irc.mozilla.org (Quit: davida_) [21:00:44] --| ewong_w|afk (chatzi...@moz-e5d50c2e.static.netvigator.com) has joined #maildev [21:01:09] |-- davida has left irc.mozilla.org (Ping timeout) [21:04:31] BenBjustdave: same as the underlying Gecko/FF [21:05:08] justdaveyeah, found it on the momo/support site since I asked [21:05:10] BenB justdave: i.e. 1.9.1 (IIRC) for TB 3.0, and 1.9.2 for TB 3.1 and 1.9.3 for TB 3.2 [21:05:24] justdavetold my mom she just needs to get a new computer. :) [21:05:33] BenBjustdave: :-( [21:05:51] BenBI also have a PowerBook G4 12 and love it [21:05:55] justdaveshe's getting SSL errors in TB 2.0.0.23 [21:07:06] BenB and you have reason to believe the client (and not the server) is at fault? [21:07:07] justdave which are mainly because NSS got upgraded in 2.0.0.23 without upgrading the UI for the certificate overrides [21:07:15] BenBnod [21:07:41] justdave so her choice is basically go back to 2.0.0.22 or get 3.0, and she can't get 3.0 because her OS is too old [21:07:53] BenBbummer [21:08:14] BenBpoor users Summarized: NSS is to blame. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
