Java SE 6 U38
My version of SeaMonkey (Win-7 x64, SM 2.15) continues to show in "About Plugins" that it still contains the previous Java SE6 U37, which is supposedly vulnerable to blah blah blah. I updated successfully (I think) to U38 from the Oracle site, but SeaMonkey continues to show U37 as the plugin. Did I do something wrong? Any way to make U38 the SeaMonkey plug-in? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java SE 6 U38
stango wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: My version of SeaMonkey (Win-7 x64, SM 2.15) continues to show in "About Plugins" that it still contains the previous Java SE6 U37, which is supposedly vulnerable to blah blah blah. I updated successfully (I think) to U38 from the Oracle site, but SeaMonkey continues to show U37 as the plugin. Did I do something wrong? Any way to make U38 the SeaMonkey plug-in? You are running 64 bit Windows and will need to install BOTH the 32 bit AND the 64 bit versions. I don't get this. The two versions for Windows on the Oracle site are X64 and X86. I downloaded and installed the x64 version (59.8MB); but do you mean that I also have to download and install the x86 version (69.74MB)? Is that what you mean by the 32 bit version? And *that* will cause SeaMonkey to upgrade to the U38 version? By the way, I reloaded SM and also did a soft re-boot. That didn't work to revise the Java plugin. Is Java actually worth all this effort? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java SE 6 U38
WaltS wrote: On 01/14/2013 01:30 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: stango wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: My version of SeaMonkey (Win-7 x64, SM 2.15) continues to show in "About Plugins" that it still contains the previous Java SE6 U37, which is supposedly vulnerable to blah blah blah. I updated successfully (I think) to U38 from the Oracle site, but SeaMonkey continues to show U37 as the plugin. Did I do something wrong? Any way to make U38 the SeaMonkey plug-in? You are running 64 bit Windows and will need to install BOTH the 32 bit AND the 64 bit versions. I don't get this. The two versions for Windows on the Oracle site are X64 and X86. I downloaded and installed the x64 version (59.8MB); but do you mean that I also have to download and install the x86 version (69.74MB)? Is that what you mean by the 32 bit version? And *that* will cause SeaMonkey to upgrade to the U38 version? By the way, I reloaded SM and also did a soft re-boot. That didn't work to revise the Java plugin. Is Java actually worth all this effort? I believe you need the 32-bit version (x86) since SeaMonkey is a 32-bit application. Do you go to any sites that require the plugin? If you do, then it is worth the effort. Thank you all, that worked! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Windows 8
Is SeaMonkey useful in windows 8? For instance, I can't find application data anywhere in my computer. What I want to do is use my bookmark file from windows 7 seamonkey 2.16, and have seamonkey on my windows 8 machine load up with the same bookmarks. That's one place to start, anyway. Any idea how to do this? By the way, when I tried to download SeaMonkey, Windows insisted that it was going to harm my Surface Pro, and I had to bypass the warning even to get the program. It seems to work ok; but I would really like to have my bookmarks! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Is SeaMonkey useful in windows 8? For instance, I can't find application data anywhere in my computer. What I want to do is use my bookmark file from windows 7 seamonkey 2.16, and have seamonkey on my windows 8 machine load up with the same bookmarks. That's one place to start, anyway. Any idea how to do this? How about this? Copy your bookmarks.html file from the Win7 computer to your Win8 desktop or someplace obvious where you can find it. Then have SM on your Win8 machine import it. (If you like, wipe out all its existing bookmarks first.) CTRL-5 to open the address book, then Tools | Import... The program naturally knows where it saves its data, so it'll put the imported bookmarks in the right place. But if you're curious, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings... | Server Settings (for one of your accounts), and at the bottom of the dialog you'll see something like this (with your name in it, of course!): Local directory: C:\Users\Paul B. Gallagher\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\... This path should give you enough information to locate your profile. Oh, I have no problem finding my profile. But there is no bookmark.html file at all (and adding it does nothing). There's a bookmark backup directory which has some sort of *.json file. But nothing like bookmark.html. Even when I add bookmarks, no bookmark file shows up in the SM AddData folder. This isn't the only problem I'm having with Win-8. I'm unable to establish contact with my e-mail server also. Oh, well. Is it possible that SeaMonkey isn't ready for Win-8? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8
Daniel wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Is SeaMonkey useful in windows 8? For instance, I can't find application data anywhere in my computer. What I want to do is use my bookmark file from windows 7 seamonkey 2.16, and have seamonkey on my windows 8 machine load up with the same bookmarks. That's one place to start, anyway. Any idea how to do this? How about this? Copy your bookmarks.html file from the Win7 computer to your Win8 desktop or someplace obvious where you can find it. Then have SM on your Win8 machine import it. (If you like, wipe out all its existing bookmarks first.) CTRL-5 to open the address book, then Tools | Import... The program naturally knows where it saves its data, so it'll put the imported bookmarks in the right place. But if you're curious, do Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings... | Server Settings (for one of your accounts), and at the bottom of the dialog you'll see something like this (with your name in it, of course!): Local directory: C:\Users\Paul B. Gallagher\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\... This path should give you enough information to locate your profile. Oh, I have no problem finding my profile. But there is no bookmark.html file at all (and adding it does nothing). There's a bookmark backup directory which has some sort of *.json file. But nothing like bookmark.html. Even when I add bookmarks, no bookmark file shows up in the SM AddData folder. This isn't the only problem I'm having with Win-8. I'm unable to establish contact with my e-mail server also. Oh, well. Is it possible that SeaMonkey isn't ready for Win-8? Ken, in its natural state, SM stores your bookmarks as part of a file called places.sqlite. If you want a bookmarks.html file, you can do this in your Bookmarks Manager (Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks) by selecting Tools->Export HTML. At least it is in Win7 & Linux. OK, that seemed to get my old bookmarks in the side panel. But so far I haven't figured out how to get the same links I used to have on the toolbar. But this is a major step forward. Thanks. --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.
Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help. I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and similiar softwares installed. http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky. Thank you in advance. :) I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM 2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169). I suppose I have to go to a previous version since this has only started with the most recent update. Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and which is the best one to use for Seamonkey? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.
Ken Rudolph wrote: Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help. I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and similiar softwares installed. http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky. Thank you in advance. :) I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM 2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169). I suppose I have to go to a previous version since this has only started with the most recent update. Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and which is the best one to use for Seamonkey? OK, I seem to have figured it out myself, installing version 11.6.602.180 from the Adobe site. I know it is an unsupported older version; but at least Flash has stopped crashing every time I open a window with a Flash video. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash
Ken Rudolph wrote: I know this sounds like a broken record; but my Shockwave Flash plugin is *constantly* crashing. I'm sure by now they are thoroughly sick of the crash reports (if anybody is actually caring where ever these things go) since I send it every time flash crashes which is 10 or more times a day. Win-7, SM 2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.202 (which is supposed to be up to date, but it just gets worse and worse.) Is there anything I can do about this? It's getting so serious that I'm going to have to quit SeaMonkey after over 15 years with Netscape & Mozilla. As an additional note: The identical flash plugin is *not* crashing in Firefox 21.0. However, I hardly ever use Firefox. Is that the answer? Discard SeaMonkey entirely? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Flash
I know this sounds like a broken record; but my Shockwave Flash plugin is *constantly* crashing. I'm sure by now they are thoroughly sick of the crash reports (if anybody is actually caring where ever these things go) since I send it every time flash crashes which is 10 or more times a day. Win-7, SM 2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.202 (which is supposed to be up to date, but it just gets worse and worse.) Is there anything I can do about this? It's getting so serious that I'm going to have to quit SeaMonkey after over 15 years with Netscape & Mozilla. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Quick find
How do I disable "Quick Find (links only)" which seems to be new. This is a useless feature for me. I used to be able to (on some sites) jump to the next entry with an "n" and go back one with a "b". That was useful. Now all I get is this quick jump to the letter in a link. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
bookmarks
I'm sorry if this is old news; but could somebody explain to me how I can transfer my bookmark toolbar and all my usual bookmarks from my desktop SM 2.22 Win-7 profile to a new version of SM 2.22 Win-8.1 on a new computer? Actually, I got it to work before; but I had to refresh Windows today and lost all the former program files. I'm able to find the SM files in application data on both computers. But I can't seem to find any file which holds bookmarks. Please help me. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: bookmarks
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/1/2013 8:12 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: I'm sorry if this is old news; but could somebody explain to me how I can transfer my bookmark toolbar and all my usual bookmarks from my desktop SM 2.22 Win-7 profile to a new version of SM 2.22 Win-8.1 on a new computer? Actually, I got it to work before; but I had to refresh Windows today and lost all the former program files. I'm able to find the SM files in application data on both computers. But I can't seem to find any file which holds bookmarks. Please help me. Bookmarks are in places.sqlite. The best way to transfer bookmarks is to open the Bookmarks Manager on the source system and export them by selecting [Tools > Export HTML] on the Bookmarks Manager menu bar. Find the bookmarks.html file on that system and copy it to the target system. On the target system, select [Tools > Import HTML] and navigate to the bookmarks.html file. I did it another way before I read this. Just copying the places.sqlite file from one computer to the other (they're networked, so it was easy to do). That seemed to work. Have I screwed up by doing it this way? --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: bookmarks
Ken Rudolph wrote: I'm sorry if this is old news; but could somebody explain to me how I can transfer my bookmark toolbar and all my usual bookmarks from my desktop SM 2.22 Win-7 profile to a new version of SM 2.22 Win-8.1 on a new computer? Actually, I got it to work before; but I had to refresh Windows today and lost all the former program files. I'm able to find the SM files in application data on both computers. But I can't seem to find any file which holds bookmarks. Please help me. Hey, I figured it out. places.sqlite! Who could have figured that would be the bookmarks? Anyway, I renamed the old places file in the new computer to old, then downloaded the file from my desktop profile to the laptop profile, and voila! I hope I haven't screwed anything up; but it seems to be working now. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
User agent problem
Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); but they don't accept SeaMonkey as an approved browser. I would like to change my User Agent that is sent out to Firefox 30.0 or something similar to spoof them. Could somebody please tell me EXACTLY STEP BY STOP how to do this even for an idiot like me! The alternate is to give up SeaMonkey and I don't want to do that. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
Ken Rudolph wrote: Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); but they don't accept SeaMonkey as an approved browser. I would like to change my User Agent that is sent out to Firefox 30.0 or something similar to spoof them. Could somebody please tell me EXACTLY STEP BY STOP how to do this even for an idiot like me! The alternate is to give up SeaMonkey and I don't want to do that. I tried using a User Agent changer that was supplied in a plugin; but that doesn't work. Right now the true UA is: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 I just want something that Chase Bank will think is acceptable. Thanks again. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
Felix Miata wrote: Ken Rudolph composed on 2016-03-28 18:52 (UTC-0700): Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); Are you sure? Your email reports an outdated UA: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2 No, now you'll see that I have the correct UA. What showed up there was my attempt to use a program to change the UA which doesn't work. I need to go into the SeaMonkey file to manually change the UA. In all recent SeaMonkey versions, Firefox is reported if you do nothing to stop it. Advertising of Firefox is a preference item in HTTP Networking defaulting to enabled. Still the fact that SeaMonkey is listed last seems to freak out Chase Bank. If I use Firefox 30.0 or Chrome I don't have this problem. But I have used all the Mozilla Suites since Netscape 1.0 and wish to continue to do so. In any event as many people as possible should be point banks that do as Chase seems to be doing to the instructions on: http://geckoisgecko.org/ Banks, like other web sites, can, and should, be supporting browser functionality, not browsers. Of course! But tell that to the banks. I don't have the power to do anything. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
WaltS48 wrote: On 03/28/2016 10:03 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); but they don't accept SeaMonkey as an approved browser. I would like to change my User Agent that is sent out to Firefox 30.0 or something similar to spoof them. Could somebody please tell me EXACTLY STEP BY STOP how to do this even for an idiot like me! The alternate is to give up SeaMonkey and I don't want to do that. I tried using a User Agent changer that was supplied in a plugin; but that doesn't work. Right now the true UA is: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 I just want something that Chase Bank will think is acceptable. Thanks again. Um, Install a modern browser and just use it for Chase Bank ❓❓❓ Like Firefox 45.0.1 <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/> Well d'uh! I can use my installed Firefox or Chrome and occasionally do; but I want to use SeaMonkey which IS A MODERN BROWSER. Why should I have to compromise using my main browser? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); but they don't accept SeaMonkey as an approved browser. I would like to change my User Agent that is sent out to Firefox 30.0 or something similar to spoof them. Could somebody please tell me EXACTLY STEP BY STOP how to do this even for an idiot like me! The alternate is to give up SeaMonkey and I don't want to do that. My initial reaction was, "take a deep breath and cross the bridge when you come to it." Banks make stupid threats like this all the time; mine (rhymes with "Key Largo") has for years and nothing has come of it. SeaMonkey still works, always has. But now I see in your later posts that SeaMonkey already doesn't work with Chase? Or are you just getting a nag that you can dismiss and ignore, like when you update Flash and it always wants to bundle McAfee or Yahoo or Chrome or something? If you can't bypass the nag -- if they really insist on enforcing their idiocy -- you have to treat them as idiots and lie to them. It's called "user agent spoofing." Paul in Houston, TX has offered one way of doing it; the User Agent Switcher add-on is another. <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/user-agent-switcher/> I used this addon, and it worked. Chase didn't add a notice that my browser was out of date, and it all seemed to work ok. I'll have to see if it continues; but for now that seems to work. I was just uncomfortable trying to edit the about:config file...especially with the notice that doing this will "void the warranty"!! Also I'm not sure how to go about editing the file anyway. So this addon seems to be a fix for my problem. Thank you. And of course you can always switch to a bank not run by idiots. Won't hurt Chase; as the AT&T monopolists used to say before the breakup, "we don't have to care." But it'll save you the hair-pulling. Changing banks if one is really involved with loans and annuities etc. is not as easy as changing browsers, unfortunately. But I already have reason to hate Chase Bank for announcing last year that they no longer support their windows phone app and then just eliminating it entirely. Their customer support is just so arrogant. But even so...hard to punish them by leaving because "they don't have to care." -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
NFN Smith wrote: Personally, I prefer PrefBar. I got started using that one for browser spoofing, but I found that I like the capacity it offers for quick tweaks of other settings, as well. Some time ago, I played with User Agent Switcher, and it seemed to be overly complex to me. Once PrefBar is installed, go to Edit -> Preferences -> Pref Bar. In the UI, you'll need to drag User Agent pref from the Available pane to the Enabled Pane. From there, double click on User Agent, and you can define whatever UA strings you want. (I don't remember if you have to enable display of PrefBar manually, but if it doesn't appear, then you'll need to go to View -> Show/Hide, and make sure that PrefBar is selected.) The one minor complaint that I have with PrefBar is that the strings that are shown in a new installation are quite old, and you'll have to do editing to get more current strings. If you happen to have Firefox installed, you can go to about:support, and copy a live string, from your own installation. Since I already had PrefBar installed that worked!! Until you told me how to edit the installation strings I had no idea how to update the User Agents to something modern that Chase would accept. (i.e. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 ) Unfortunately, every time I load SeaMonkey I have to select my new string in the User Agent box again, but that isn't a big problem. By the way, I love the PrefBar and couldn't use SM without it! It's especially useful for disabling Flash until I absolutely must have it for one use and then get rid of it. Thank you! Now I have two solutions (one in the tools menu, and the even easier one in the PrefBar.) -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey specific site problem
I'm running Win-7, SeaMonkey 2.40. I am having trouble with a site written especially to handle voting for a film festival. The site works perfectly in Chrome and I.E. It doesn't work with SeaMonkey (and it also didn't work in the identical way with Firefox 43.0.1). The browser strips out film titles and other important information on the site pages. I had trouble upgrading Firefox 43.0.1, since I knew there was a later version (the system froze during the update twice and never completed it). So I un-installed FF and re-installed a fresh version (46.0.1). After that the site in question ran perfectly, exactly the way it does in Chrome and I.E. But it still wouldn't run correctly in SeaMonkey. The site is https://notsiff.net/siff2016/siff.html . However one has to make a login and password to actually access the site, and the site is made for a small group of users for a specific purpose. But even on the log-in page using other browsers there are links opposite the icons that don't appear using SeaMonkey (and didn't appear using FF 43.0. I guess my question is this: My SeaMonkey info says: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40 And as I indicated Firefox 43.0.1 didn't display the site correctly. I was wondering if there is a version of SeaMonkey that utilizes the Firefox/46.0 engine. Maybe then the page would also work correctly in SeaMonkey. I'm not sure if this is a reportable bug, or if my SeaMonkey just hasn't updated to the latest browser version? Or what? Thanks for this site and all the help I've gotten here over the years since Netscape 0.8. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey specific site problem
David E. Ross wrote: The problem is that "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (which you have set) does not always help when Web sites are sniffing for the user agent (UA) string. The mere presence of "SeaMonkey" in your UA string will cause some sites to ignore the "Firefox" part. In other cases, all this depends on the sequence such that Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.40 Firefox/43.0 would work. No, that IS NOT the problem in this case. Even when I use the Pref bar (which I use a lot) to set the User agent to: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 which I do to access the Chase Bank site correctly, the site still doesn't load correctly in SM (but it does work fine in Firefox 46.0.1 and NOT at all in Firefox 43.0.1 or SM). No the problem is that SM 2.40 apparently is not using the Firefox 46 Gecko "guts", which is apparently the problem here. Sorry about that. --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.46 update not working
1) POP e-mail not updating 2) password manager crashes program I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it. How can I make sure that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 automatically. Help! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46 update not working
Ken Rudolph wrote: 1) POP e-mail not updating 2) password manager crashes program I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it. How can I make sure that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 automatically. Help! The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK again. I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46 which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?) -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46 update not working
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: 1) POP e-mail not updating 2) password manager crashes program I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it. How can I make sure that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 automatically. Help! The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK again. I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46 which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?) Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software Installation. Uncheck 'Automatically Check for Updates.' Thank you. I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0 that an update has failed so disastrously. This really scares me, since I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46 update not working
Edmund Wong wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: 1) POP e-mail not updating 2) password manager crashes program I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it. How can I make sure that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 automatically. Help! Hi Ken, Can you clarify what operating system you're running 2.40 on? Win-7. But I haven't checked back here for a few days since the reload of SM 2.40 worked fine and I haven't had any problems since. I'll check frequently to see when ver. 2.47 is released since I don't have automatic updates anymore. I suppose I should try to update at that time for security purposes etc. I hope they fix the problems by then. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
David E. Ross wrote: On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security "detected" Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked "Cancel" and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the "Extensions" were intact, but the "Plugins" panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. Does anybody have a solution short of getting rid of Norton? I need SeaMonkey...can I go back to version 2.23? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
Ken Rudolph wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security "detected" Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked "Cancel" and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the "Extensions" were intact, but the "Plugins" panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. Does anybody have a solution short of getting rid of Norton? I need SeaMonkey...can I go back to version 2.23? I seem to have solved the problem (at least now SeaMonkey loads). I went to Norton 360 and pulled the offending file out of quarantine and re-installed it and checked the box which accepts this .dll file in the future. Then I restarted my Win-7 computer and it worked fine. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Embedding video in web page
OK, here's my problem. Using SeaMonkey's composer, I created a simple HTML web page to play an embedded video. I've used three video files, an *.mp4, *.ogv and *.webm. I think I have coded the html page correctly. All three videos play fine by themselves in their respective viewers. And when I open the page with both Chrome and I.E. (all for windows 7, so I can't really open the page in OS X) the video plays perfectly. However, when I use Firefox or SeaMonkey to open the HTML page it is out of sync by at least 10-15 frames. I've double checked all three video formats, and they really do play in sync using the VLC media player. I realize this is probably not the right forum to ask this question. But any help here would be appreciated (it's a long video, and I haven't uploaded them to my web host. At this time I'm just playing the page from a folder on my C drive. So, unfortunately I can't post a URL for people to sample.) -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.31 & chase web site
Ron wrote: Just got the 2.31 upgrade & now I can't log in to my account on chase.com I hit logon & it just reloads the log on page. Works in IE and Seamonkey 2.30 Same thing happening here. This is frustrating. Can I go back to Seamonkey 2.30? Or maybe spoof the browser to firefox (which used to work when bank sites didn't accept SeaMonkey)? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Back to 2.30
Is there a safe way to go back to SM 2.30 without jeopardizing the user profile? (Win-7). Can I just uninstall SM 2.31 and then re-install it using the 2.30 version downloaded (against advice on the site) from the SM archive? I've had to do this only once since Netscape 1.0 and that was long ago; but the Chase Bank bug is just too annoying. Also, can I then avoid an automatic update to 2.31 (which is how it got updated in the first place)? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.31 & chase web site
Philip Chee wrote: On 15/12/2014 01:39, A Williams wrote: David H. Durgee wrote: Is this a one-time fixes-it-forever work-around or one that needs to be repeated every time you restart SeaMonkey? Is the restart necessary or just cleaner? I am assuming now that it is identified it will be fixed in the next release, correct? I doubt that Chase is the only site impacted by it. Dave I'm assuming it is an each-time-you-restart-seamonkey job. What it really means is that the developers care *and* know what the problem is. I'd expect the next version of Seamonkey to be fixed. I had a hypothesis on what was causing the problem. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094714#c17 I wrote a few steps that a non-technical user could do to test this hypothesis. Results confirm that we were right. We now have a quick fix and we need to get this in the hands of our users as soon as possible. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8527843&action=edit A longer term fix would be: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094714#c12 but that would require the involvement of a Gecko developer. And nothing stops us from landing the quick fix. Phil For a non-technical novice, how exactly (step by step) does one utilize the quick fix? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32
Thank you SeaMonkey team! One seriously annoying bug fixed. Still, after several months, the Chase (and also the BofA) sites still have the annoying and false disclaimer on their log-on page: "Your browser may not give you the best experience when you're on Chase.com. We recommend that you use any of the following browsers: Internet Explorer 8 or higher, Firefox 25 or higher, Safari 6.0 or higher, and Chrome 31 or higher." I wish there were some easy way to alter the user-agent line to preference the Firefox version, since asking the banks to accept SeaMonkey as a valid browser over and over gets nowhere. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32
David H. Durgee wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Thank you SeaMonkey team! One seriously annoying bug fixed. Still, after several months, the Chase (and also the BofA) sites still have the annoying and false disclaimer on their log-on page: "Your browser may not give you the best experience when you're on Chase.com. We recommend that you use any of the following browsers: Internet Explorer 8 or higher, Firefox 25 or higher, Safari 6.0 or higher, and Chrome 31 or higher." I wish there were some easy way to alter the user-agent line to preference the Firefox version, since asking the banks to accept SeaMonkey as a valid browser over and over gets nowhere. That is why I copied the FireFox user agent string and added it to PrefBar as an additional user agent. I now tend to leave this set as my user agent string to avoid this very idiotic message there and elsewhere. Could you specify exactly how you added the FireFox user-agent string to the PrefBar. For somebody who is tech stupid, that is. There used to be a way in the Tools menu to manage the user-agent. That hasn't been around for a while. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32
NFN Smith wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Could you specify exactly how you added the FireFox user-agent string to the PrefBar. For somebody who is tech stupid, that is. There used to be a way in the Tools menu to manage the user-agent. That hasn't been around for a while. I missed responding to this particular question in a separate reply. In the PrefBar settings, make sure you drag the User Agent setting into Enabled Items section. Then double-click on the User Agent, and you'll get a dialog box that allows you to choose whatever spoofs you want. One minor annoyance is that the defaults offered are several years old, and you'll need to update to settings that are relatively current. The useragentstring.com reference is definitely helpful. If you want a setting for the current version of Firefox, running under Windows 7/64, then you would want: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/35.0 Using the PrefBar "Customize", I get the User Agent Extlist box. But I'm not sure how to go from there. I tried putting in the Firefox user agent above in the Value box opposite Real UA and applying that. But it didn't affect the browser message at Chase.com. I know I'm doing something wrong...but I just don't have the competence to know what I'm doing at that level or precisely what I have to do. I'm also afraid of doing something that is irrevocable and would cause other problems. Oh, well. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Printing
Win-7, SM 2.32, HP Deskjet printer For several months when I click on "Print" from a web site (airline boarding pass, store coupon etc.) what comes out is a version that is about 50% size. Thus, if there is a bar code, it is too small for the store etc. to read. If I copy & paste the exact same URL into Chrome and then click on print from that, I get a full size image with readable bar code. OK, that's an acceptable work-around; but why is this happening every time with SeaMonkey? Is this some sort of bug that only I keep experiencing? Is there some adjustment within SM that I'm not making? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Printing
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win-7, SM 2.32, HP Deskjet printer For several months when I click on "Print" from a web site (airline boarding pass, store coupon etc.) what comes out is a version that is about 50% size. Thus, if there is a bar code, it is too small for the store etc. to read. If I copy & paste the exact same URL into Chrome and then click on print from that, I get a full size image with readable bar code. OK, that's an acceptable work-around; but why is this happening every time with SeaMonkey? Is this some sort of bug that only I keep experiencing? Is there some adjustment within SM that I'm not making? SeaMonkey remembers your last print settings until you change them. The next time you need to print, instead of going directly to Print, use Print Preview and set the size and orientation as desired. SM will remember those settings until you change them again. OK, that may have worked. I looked at Print Preview on the original page, and sure enough it was set to 60% size...why, I have no idea. When I changed it to 100%, and then went back and clicked on the "Print" link it did print out correctly. Now I hope this is really sticky and will apply to all future printing. Thanks to all those who suggested utilizing Print Preview!! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Crashes
SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and recently way too often. I immediately get the window that allows SM to restore all tabs and windows; but when I do entries in the process of being written have disappeared. This is especially annoying in Composer when I'm editing a web site with the HTML composer included with SeaMonkey. In fact it is more than annoying; it's something that I have to cope with ASAP (yes, frequent saving does help a bit; but if I forget it is a disaster.) So, the question: is there a stand-alone Mozilla web site composing app available that wouldn't be subject to a SM crash? It would be nice if such a thing existed in Firefox or Thunderbird, or as a separate program. After almost 20 years of using Netscape and SeaMonkey to edit my web site I can't imagine using another program; but if Mozilla doesn't have one, can somebody suggest a similar "free" HTML editing program that would work just as efficiently? Thanks much. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
Mason83 wrote: On 28/06/2017 00:46, Ken Rudolph wrote: SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and recently way too often. Please open a browser window, and type about:crashes in the URL bar. Please copy/paste lines less than 3 months old. Regards. bp-a9787be9-a505-403e-9ddf-e5bc70170627 6/27/17 3:13 PM bp-1beb928b-2276-4099-8985-ff0f30170627 6/27/17 1:55 PM bp-2526d098-8115-419e-b8b5-ca5f60170627 6/27/17 1:54 PM bp-29d6f0ce-394d-4b08-be9b-43d8c0170627 6/26/17 8:38 PM bp-5c8bd892-73d8-46f0-8792-6f4e70170626 6/26/17 7:49 AM bp-10068a32-601e-4811-9fc0-1ca4f0170623 6/23/17 9:11 AM bp-3a81a172-2443-43ba-9570-3a0c20170623 6/23/17 7:42 AM bp-5a2d5e67-facc-45a3-bd8a-16ef80170623 6/22/17 6:16 PM bp-97db968a-3e78-4981-ad88-10a120170622 6/22/17 12:19 PM bp-3e719b0c-e91a-42a1-9c86-ca25e0170621 6/20/17 7:21 PM bp-04fec9a4-24dc-45a1-9d5b-8fe8c0170615 6/15/17 3:47 PM bp-5aa5914b-bf28-44f4-ac50-9efbc0170606 6/6/17 11:14 AM bp-e09808a2-727b-4d6c-b8cf-d4b3d0170603 6/3/17 12:07 AM bp-95fe7b67-7e02-4b8f-8d0a-f5e0b0170602 6/2/17 11:15 AM bp-ceedad10-67b2-42a7-873f-fa8c50170531 5/30/17 8:24 PM bp-2432a2ae-e081-4408-a784-b83de0170531 5/30/17 8:09 PM bp-d5d2c75b-268e-4f05-bd84-ee4370170527 5/27/17 10:58 AM bp-adcac668-41c7-4271-b9bc-4234a0170527 5/27/17 9:38 AM bp-2b559b38-c78c-4876-9a9c-2380b0170526 5/26/17 1:38 PM bp-6feeadaf-bc81-44f6-8f39-7596b0170526 5/26/17 1:27 PM bp-efc5efb2-1eda-44d5-8cff-b29270170512 5/12/17 2:03 PM bp-07bedba7-0105-4ba2-b431-a736a0170511 5/11/17 7:26 AM bp-50dcc35e-9d8e-4f53-8f4d-f43520170511 5/11/17 6:53 AM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: This seems to be caused by a core bug but I can't access it because it is security relevant so not sure if it will be fixed by upgrading to the upcoming 2.48. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230817 is a duplicate of the bug. You can upgrade to Adrians unofficial 2.49.1 which will be the next version after 2.48: https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/ If you do please backup your profile in case you want to get back to 2.46 or 2.48. When it finally arrives the official 2.491 will install over Adrians fine without the need to do a restore before. I did this upgrade on 6/27 based on an e-mail, installing the 64bit version 2.49.1. So far it has worked flawlessly including the install, with no crashes after 3 day. I've never worked with a beta before; but this has been a good experience for me. --Ken FRG Ken Rudolph wrote: Mason83 wrote: On 28/06/2017 00:46, Ken Rudolph wrote: SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and recently way too often. Please open a browser window, and type about:crashes in the URL bar. Please copy/paste lines less than 3 months old. Regards. bp-a9787be9-a505-403e-9ddf-e5bc70170627 6/27/173:13 PM bp-1beb928b-2276-4099-8985-ff0f30170627 6/27/171:55 PM bp-2526d098-8115-419e-b8b5-ca5f60170627 6/27/171:54 PM bp-29d6f0ce-394d-4b08-be9b-43d8c0170627 6/26/178:38 PM bp-5c8bd892-73d8-46f0-8792-6f4e70170626 6/26/177:49 AM bp-10068a32-601e-4811-9fc0-1ca4f0170623 6/23/179:11 AM bp-3a81a172-2443-43ba-9570-3a0c20170623 6/23/177:42 AM bp-5a2d5e67-facc-45a3-bd8a-16ef80170623 6/22/176:16 PM bp-97db968a-3e78-4981-ad88-10a120170622 6/22/1712:19 PM bp-3e719b0c-e91a-42a1-9c86-ca25e0170621 6/20/177:21 PM bp-04fec9a4-24dc-45a1-9d5b-8fe8c0170615 6/15/173:47 PM bp-5aa5914b-bf28-44f4-ac50-9efbc0170606 6/6/1711:14 AM bp-e09808a2-727b-4d6c-b8cf-d4b3d0170603 6/3/1712:07 AM bp-95fe7b67-7e02-4b8f-8d0a-f5e0b0170602 6/2/1711:15 AM bp-ceedad10-67b2-42a7-873f-fa8c50170531 5/30/178:24 PM bp-2432a2ae-e081-4408-a784-b83de0170531 5/30/178:09 PM bp-d5d2c75b-268e-4f05-bd84-ee4370170527 5/27/1710:58 AM bp-adcac668-41c7-4271-b9bc-4234a0170527 5/27/179:38 AM bp-2b559b38-c78c-4876-9a9c-2380b0170526 5/26/171:38 PM bp-6feeadaf-bc81-44f6-8f39-7596b0170526 5/26/171:27 PM bp-efc5efb2-1eda-44d5-8cff-b29270170512 5/12/172:03 PM bp-07bedba7-0105-4ba2-b431-a736a0170511 5/11/177:26 AM bp-50dcc35e-9d8e-4f53-8f4d-f43520170511 5/11/176:53 AM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
plugin-container.exe ?
I'm running SM 2.49.1 under Win-10. Lately I've been getting a Norton warning that something called plugin-container.exe has no valid digital signature. It's happened several times, now, and I'm wondering if I should be concerned or if I should tell Norton to bug off. Incidentally, I went to the "unsupported" 2.49.1 because I was getting frequent crashed with 2.46. It's been well over a week now with 2.49.1 and not a single crash since then. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: plugin-container.exe ?
chokito wrote: The 64-bit version of plugin-container.exe has MD5: 33d3c39d859b84772dfc17c2d27f5705 This MD5-checksum correspends to an old version of 2.49.1 from 2017-05-28. - The latest version 2.49.1 is from 2017-06-19. (The better name would be 2.49.2). https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-esr-windows32/ https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-esr-windows64/ FWIW, the SM 2.49.1 I have installed: Build identifier: 20170619162041 . I assume that is the latest version. I'm not sure what to do with the information above about the MD5 for plugin-container.exe . I got another notice from Norton, and marked the program as "trusted." Hopefully that will do the trick until the next official release. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
HTML5 support
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3 Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from the Crown. However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight. No add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem. When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it plays fine on all 3. But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in e-mail goes to the SM browser. Maybe if there were an easy way to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be useful...but not optimal, of course. Anyway, the e-mail link in question: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079&MSG_TITLE=80230267&lnktrk=EMP&g=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C&lkid=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH How can I get SM to play this link? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
Ray_Net wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote on 23-12-17 21:20: Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3 Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from the Crown. However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight. No add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem. When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it plays fine on all 3. But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in e-mail goes to the SM browser. Maybe if there were an easy way to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be useful...but not optimal, of course. Anyway, the e-mail link in question: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079&MSG_TITLE=80230267&lnktrk=EMP&g=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C&lkid=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH How can I get SM to play this link? Work for me nothing special installed. Win10 pro. User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Maybe I need an add-on for HTML5 for SeaMonkey; but I'm not sure what that would be. When I go to add-ons for SeaMonkey there is an HTML5 Video Everywhere! by lejenome that I can add to Firefox (not SeaMonkey). However when I try to add it using SeaMonkey I get the message that "The add-on downloaded from addons.mozilla.org could not be installed because it appears to be corrupt." And my version of Firefox already seems to have an HTML5 player. And nothing from the Add-ons extensions for HTML5 seem to be for SM 2.49.1 -- Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
WaltS48 wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3 Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from the Crown. However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight. No add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem. When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it plays fine on all 3. But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in e-mail goes to the SM browser. Maybe if there were an easy way to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be useful...but not optimal, of course. Anyway, the e-mail link in question: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079&MSG_TITLE=80230267&lnktrk=EMP&g=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C&lkid=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH How can I get SM to play this link? Works for me in SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on Windows 10 with UA Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Looks like you need to fix the UA for your SeaMonkey. I changed the UA to: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 And that still didn't change anything. I still get sent to a page: "Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight" etc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
Ken Rudolph wrote: Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3or Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 No matter how I set the UA, I can't run a Netflix movie or show. I get sent to the same page demanding HTML5 or Silverlight support. I've checked three other browsers: Firefox, Chrome, and Edge and all of them play Netflix sources with no problems. Only SeaMonkey has this problem. So it isn't just clicking on a link from e-mail...it's Netflix site period. Is there any add-on or plug-in for HTML5 that I need to have? Other responders seem to not have this problem. I'm just not sure what's wrong with my version of 2.49.1 (Build identifier: 20170619162041) -- Ken Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from the Crown. However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight. No add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem. When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it plays fine on all 3. But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in e-mail goes to the SM browser. Maybe if there were an easy way to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be useful...but not optimal, of course. Anyway, the e-mail link in question: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079&MSG_TITLE=80230267&lnktrk=EMP&g=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C&lkid=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH How can I get SM to play this link? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: No matter how I set the UA, I can't run a Netflix movie or show. I get sent to the same page demanding HTML5 or Silverlight support. I've checked three other browsers: Firefox, Chrome, and Edge and all of them play Netflix sources with no problems. Only SeaMonkey has this problem. So it isn't just clicking on a link from e-mail...it's Netflix site period. Is there any add-on or plug-in for HTML5 that I need to have? Other responders seem to not have this problem. I'm just not sure what's wrong with my version of 2.49.1 (Build identifier: 20170619162041) OK, try this: 1) Close all browser windows except a blank one. 2) Clear cache and cookies (options at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Private Data). 3) Load a Netflix page and see if you can play it. If the answer's yes, something was bad in your cache or cookies and it's gone now. Problem solved. If the answer's no, then try this: 4) Restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, disabling all add-ons. If that solves it, one of your add-ons is the guilty party. (If that doesn't solve it, report back.) 5) Assuming Safe Mode solved the problem, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode again, disabling all but two add-ons. If the problem reappears, one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this step with two more. If the problem reappears, one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this step with two more. ... When you come to the point where you have two suspects, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, enabling only one of those two suspects. That will tell you which is guilty. I'm unable to make any of this work, other than clearing cache and cookies (which didn't solve the Netflix problem). Then, I don't know how to open and run SM in safe mode to begin with (I'm assuming you don't mean open Windows 10 in safe mode, which I could do by shift+restart...but would rather not.) Another problem I've just discovered is that I seem to have two versions of SM on this computer. One is in "Program Files" which is SeaMonkey 2.49.1. When I open this the release notes say in big red letters: "Automatic upgrades from previous versions are, for most configurations, disabled for this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.49.1 manually over the previous version." The other is in "Program Files (x86)" which loads SM 2.46. Both seem to use the same profile. Also, both do not play Netflix videos even after clearing cache and cookies. Now that I think about it, for a while now I've had other video problems in SM, and have gotten used to saving the link, opening Chrome, and watching them there. At this point, I think that I'm too confused to try to solve the Netflix problem. The version of SM 2.49.1 that I have, which opens when I click on the icon on my desktop, is working fine for everything else. And I'm not sure I want to screw around with downloading the full installer again and manually re-installing over the previous version. I'm not even sure which version to manually install over. But thank you for trying to help me! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: [snip] [snip] Windows button (calls the Start menu), All Programs, SeaMonkey should give you four options: Profile Manager SeaMonkey (Safe Mode) SeaMonkey Mail SeaMonkey Except that there are only 3 options when I do this: (Safe Mode) just isn't there in the Start menu. The other three are there, and they point to 2.49.1. I'm running Win-10 the latest updated version. Maybe Netflix videos in SeaMonkey is just beyond my capabilities. I can live with the other browsers that I have. Anyway, thank you for trying. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Crashes
SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times today. I'm not sure why; but maybe I do need to update the program finally...I've been hesitant to do it since I have had no problems with SM until today. Anyway, W-10, SM 2.49.1 (yeah, I know, very out of date). Look, I go back to Netscape 0.8, so I'm not exactly a newbee. Still, I'm always afraid to update SeaMonkey - afraid that my profile will get corrupted or something will go wrong. I'm just curious if experts think that upgrading to 2.49.4 (which seems to be the latest version) would stop these annoying crashes. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
A Williams wrote:
Ken Rudolph wrote:
SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times today. I'm not sure why; but maybe I do
need to update the program finally...I've been hesitant to do it since
I have had no problems with SM until today. Anyway, W-10, SM 2.49.1
(yeah, I know, very out of date).
Look, I go back to Netscape 0.8, so I'm not exactly a newbee. Still,
I'm always afraid to update SeaMonkey - afraid that my profile will
get corrupted or something will go wrong. I'm just curious if experts
think that upgrading to 2.49.4 (which seems to be the latest version)
would stop these annoying crashes.
Do you have any add-ons which have been updated recently?
Does about:crashes show anything useful? (it never has for me though)
Other than that: I'd clear Cache, empty Trash, Compact mail-folders.
2.49.1 counts as "recent" in my book, it should be stable but something
is causing it to die.
Every one of the crashes says that the reason is:
EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION_READ
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Re: Crashes
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Patch applied clean and is now in the patch repo Bills builds use. All the crashes from David where caused by this. Ken, unless I see a crash id for the first report can't tell if it fixes this one too. Please post a crash id from about:crashes The most recent one: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9863b11f-5f30-4c13-a5b8-90b750181231 The most recent spate of crashes started on 12/23 after no activity in a long while: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b88da439-7815-4c22-9778-fa1720181223 Thanks for making the effort!! --Ken FRG Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Seems to be crypto related. I don't have access to the underlying bug just the changeset and a duplicate bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1499020 If the change applies clean I will see that Bills builds pick it up tomorrow: http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/ ewong is still on our infra. It will still be some time till an official release follows unfortunately. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1512882 While he is working on the infra I am doing backports to 2.49.5 and 2.53. Have a nice trip into the new year FRG David H. Durgee wrote: Thanks for letting me know, Frank-Rainer. Are the other two the same bug? Is there anything to be done on my end until the fixed release is available? Dave Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231 This is Bug 1500759. Already fixed in 2.53. Need to see if it applies clean to 2.49 and then it will be in 2.49.5. FRG Yamo' wrote: Hi, David H. Durgee a écrit le 31/12/2018 à 14:29 : A Williams wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times today. I'm not sure why; but maybe I do need to update the program finally...I've been hesitant to do it since I have had no problems with SM until today. Anyway, W-10, SM 2.49.1 (yeah, I know, very out of date). Look, I go back to Netscape 0.8, so I'm not exactly a newbee. Still, I'm always afraid to update SeaMonkey - afraid that my profile will get corrupted or something will go wrong. I'm just curious if experts think that upgrading to 2.49.4 (which seems to be the latest version) would stop these annoying crashes. Do you have any add-ons which have been updated recently? Does about:crashes show anything useful? (it never has for me though) Other than that: I'd clear Cache, empty Trash, Compact mail-folders. 2.49.1 counts as "recent" in my book, it should be stable but something is causing it to die. I don't know what is going on, but I have had three crashes in the last few days. Per about:crashes Report ID Date Submitted bp-0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231 12/31/185:52 AM bp-05ab3548-b184-4461-a69d-423500181225 12/24/187:45 PM bp-e6cfdc10-c1a3-4cec-8d69-dc4fd0181220 12/20/183:00 PM Prior to this my last crash was in June. I have no idea how to read these and determine the cause. Dave I didn't found those reports, crash-stats.mozilla.com give me my crashes and not your crashes... I think you have to click on the links that you found after about:crashes and publish the urls which will be like this one : <https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231>. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Windows 10 Intel graphics driver crash. If you don't have a laptop get a new AMD or Nvidia card. Even the cheapest dedicated current generation card from them is better than the Intel junk. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1479795 If you run 1809 try the latest DCH drivers: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28445/Intel-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10?product=88345 I'm sorry, I'm not tech capable enough to understand this. I am running on a laptop (Dell Inspiron 7559). My display info shows an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, with driver ver. 25.21.14.1634. Also, Intel HD Graphics 530, driver ver. 23.20.16.4973. Every diagnostic I can find says that there are no new drivers available for my system. I fear that running some unknown Intel Graphics Driver for Windows program might not be a good idea. Would your download deal correctly with my Intel HD 530? I'm certainly willing to accept your diagnosis that my crashes are related to my graphics card. What do you suggest I do? I've already decided that my next computer will have a much better graphics card because I'd like to run VR content. TIA!!! --Ken FRG Ken Rudolph wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Patch applied clean and is now in the patch repo Bills builds use. All the crashes from David where caused by this. Ken, unless I see a crash id for the first report can't tell if it fixes this one too. Please post a crash id from about:crashes The most recent one: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9863b11f-5f30-4c13-a5b8-90b750181231 The most recent spate of crashes started on 12/23 after no activity in a long while: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b88da439-7815-4c22-9778-fa1720181223 Thanks for making the effort!! --Ken FRG Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Seems to be crypto related. I don't have access to the underlying bug just the changeset and a duplicate bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1499020 If the change applies clean I will see that Bills builds pick it up tomorrow: http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/ ewong is still on our infra. It will still be some time till an official release follows unfortunately. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1512882 While he is working on the infra I am doing backports to 2.49.5 and 2.53. Have a nice trip into the new year FRG David H. Durgee wrote: Thanks for letting me know, Frank-Rainer. Are the other two the same bug? Is there anything to be done on my end until the fixed release is available? Dave Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231 This is Bug 1500759. Already fixed in 2.53. Need to see if it applies clean to 2.49 and then it will be in 2.49.5. FRG Yamo' wrote: Hi, David H. Durgee a écrit le 31/12/2018 à 14:29 : A Williams wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times today. I'm not sure why; but maybe I do need to update the program finally...I've been hesitant to do it since I have had no problems with SM until today. Anyway, W-10, SM 2.49.1 (yeah, I know, very out of date). Look, I go back to Netscape 0.8, so I'm not exactly a newbee. Still, I'm always afraid to update SeaMonkey - afraid that my profile will get corrupted or something will go wrong. I'm just curious if experts think that upgrading to 2.49.4 (which seems to be the latest version) would stop these annoying crashes. Do you have any add-ons which have been updated recently? Does about:crashes show anything useful? (it never has for me though) Other than that: I'd clear Cache, empty Trash, Compact mail-folders. 2.49.1 counts as "recent" in my book, it should be stable but something is causing it to die. I don't know what is going on, but I have had three crashes in the last few days. Per about:crashes Report ID Date Submitted bp-0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231 12/31/185:52 AM bp-05ab3548-b184-4461-a69d-423500181225 12/24/187:45 PM bp-e6cfdc10-c1a3-4cec-8d69-dc4fd0181220 12/20/183:00 PM Prior to this my last crash was in June. I have no idea how to read these and determine the cause. Dave I didn't found those reports, crash-stats.mozilla.com give me my crashes and not your crashes... I think you have to click on the links that you found after about:crashes and publish the urls which will be like this one : <https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231>. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
WaltS48 wrote: On 12/31/18 2:25 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Windows 10 Intel graphics driver crash. If you don't have a laptop get a new AMD or Nvidia card. Even the cheapest dedicated current generation card from them is better than the Intel junk. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1479795 If you run 1809 try the latest DCH drivers: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28445/Intel-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10?product=88345 I'm sorry, I'm not tech capable enough to understand this. I am running on a laptop (Dell Inspiron 7559). My display info shows an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, with driver ver. 25.21.14.1634. Also, Intel HD Graphics 530, driver ver. 23.20.16.4973. Every diagnostic I can find says that there are no new drivers available for my system. I fear that running some unknown Intel Graphics Driver for Windows program might not be a good idea. Would your download deal correctly with my Intel HD 530? I'm certainly willing to accept your diagnosis that my crashes are related to my graphics card. What do you suggest I do? I've already decided that my next computer will have a much better graphics card because I'd like to run VR content. TIA!!! --Ken Just my observation of the crash report. It shows that you are using the Intel HD 530 graphics card, not the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M. I don't know how you would do it, but switching to the NVIDIA card for graphics may help. I could use the Device Manager to disable the Intel card. I know how to do that. But I really am afraid to modify the system so radically. I just don't know why when both devices are shown to be present and in good working order, how and why the system opts for one over the other. My lack of knowledge is embarrassing. Bottom line, I'm afraid to modify the graphics; and it seems that my version of SeaMonkey isn't causing the crashes. So at this point, I guess I'm living with the crashes. --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Link to Firefox browser side?
Too many sites these days just do not support links from e-mail to the SeaMonkey browser (no matter how I set it to spoof Firefox). For instance Netflix e-mail links go to an "unsupported browser" page no matter what. I do also have the most updated version of Firefox on my computer. I was wondering if there is any way to set my e-mail composer (in SeaMonkey) to have the option to link to the actual Firefox browser when I click on a link rather than the SeaMonkey one. I want to continue to use the SeaMonkey mail side and also the actual updated Firefox browser side, at least as an option. By the way, I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.49.1, which I have been happy with... afraid to upgrade to version 2.49.4 since who knows what might happen to profile etc. Is it possible that just upgrading to the latest SM version might solve this? Thanks. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Link to Firefox browser side?
WaltS48 wrote: On 5/27/19 4:26 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Too many sites these days just do not support links from e-mail to the SeaMonkey browser (no matter how I set it to spoof Firefox). For instance Netflix e-mail links go to an "unsupported browser" page no matter what. I do also have the most updated version of Firefox on my computer. I was wondering if there is any way to set my e-mail composer (in SeaMonkey) to have the option to link to the actual Firefox browser when I click on a link rather than the SeaMonkey one. I want to continue to use the SeaMonkey mail side and also the actual updated Firefox browser side, at least as an option. By the way, I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.49.1, which I have been happy with... afraid to upgrade to version 2.49.4 since who knows what might happen to profile etc. Is it possible that just upgrading to the latest SM version might solve this? Thanks. You are using SeaMonkey 2.49.1, but posting to this newsgroup with "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3"? No wonder Netflix thinks you are using an outdated browser. Try changing the user agent to "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3". The rv: and Firefox/ match in every version I have ever used. I did try changing the user agent as you asked (I think it is done now.) I still get an error page on the Netflix site in the SM browser when I try to watch a video. It says: "Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight: You can use our HTML5 player or the Silverlight plug-in to watch Netflix TV shows and movies on PCs running Windows XP or later, and Intel-based Macs running OS X Tiger (v10.4.11) or later. You'll find a complete list of requirements below for HTML5, Silverlight 4, and Silverlight 5." claiming that this browser doesn't fit that requirement (although I think it does.) Anyway, the e-mail link works to play videos when I open it in Firefox, Chrome and Edge. But not SeaMonkey with that user agent. What I need is a right click to "Open Message in Firefox" or whatever, not "Open Message in a New Tab." Would that be impossible? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Link to Firefox browser side?
Hartmut Figge wrote:
Ken Rudolph:
Too many sites these days just do not support links from e-mail to the
SeaMonkey browser (no matter how I set it to spoof Firefox).
Hm. Did you try
user_pref("general.useragent,override.netflix.com", "Your FF-UA";?
Even though I have no idea how to go about editing the user.js file,
this does sound like a possibility. For what it's worth, my Firefox
call on this computer is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla
Firefox\firefox.exe"
Sorry, can't try it. Netflix insists on a subscription. And I do not
know what the actual FF-UA is.
If that is the correct FF-UA, could you tell me how to go about adding
this (if this is exactly what I need.) Of course I am really afraid to
actually modify the SeaMonkey files. But if this exact line would work
I would try it if I knew where to put it.
user_pref("general.useragent,override.netflix.com", "C:\Program Files
(x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe";
Hartmut
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Re: Link to Firefox browser side? Possible solution
Paul Bergsagel wrote: Have you tried turning off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" in the preferences: Preferences > Advanced > Http Networking. ? Some website will think the user is using an outdated version of Firefox when the box "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is checked? Google will not display its search site properly if the box is checked. I have found that many sites function better by not Advertising Firefox compatibility, even some sites that would not work at all when the box is checked. Try turning off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" and see if Netflick works. Thanks for the suggestion. But it made no difference. I still go to the same error page when clicking on a link in Netflix e-mail. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Link to Firefox browser side?
Jonathan Wilson wrote: My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox (and other browsers do). Thanks. That makes sense. And it makes it all the more vital to have a fix in SM e-mail, like right clicking on a link to Netflix and have a drop down menu that has the option "Open link in Firefox". Or, better yet, maybe provide a DRM plugin for SM (whatever that is.) After all, Netflix is a major internet site that uses an enormous amount of net traffic that SeaMonkey should be able to utilize. Oh, well, there is a lengthy go-around: save the link, then open Firefox (or Chrome, or Edge) and open the link there to watch the Netflix trailer etc. This seems to be a real flaw in the SeaMonkey all-in-one mail/browser architecture that goes back to Netscape. Oddly enough, I think it is the first time I've encountered this situation. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Link to Firefox browser side?
chokito wrote: On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:13:37 AM UTC+2, Jonathan Wilson wrote: My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox (and other browsers do). Use 'general.useragent.override.netflix.com' with 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0' works for me with Silverligt and latest SM 2.49.5. That's good to know. I do have the Silverlight add-on installed; but my version of SeaMonkey only offers an update to SM 2.49.4. I have been hesitant to update from 2.49.1 just on general principles, since this is the only problem I've encountered with 2.49.1. I'll watch for the availability of 2.49.5 and update to that and see if it works. In the meantime, I'll continue to use my temp fix for opening the Netflix link in one of my other browsers. Thanks to all for your input. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Suddenly frequent SM crashes
SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times in the past 3 hours and once last night. I've gone several months without crashes; so this cluster comes out of the blue. Win 10.0 17134 SM 2.49.1esr Each has the same crash reason: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION_READ There's lots more in the crash report that I think was automatically sent to Mozilla. But I was wondering if anybody has an idea of what to do about this? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.0.1 upgrade
Wow! I just noticed that the security upgrade to SM 2.0.1 was handled invisibly behind the scenes without my active participation or even noticing that it happened (although I think I did check approve without thinking about it when Zone Alarm told me that SeaMonkey was attempting to contact the Internet.) That's quite a change from SM 1.x, more like Firefox's upgrades. I'm not a huge fan of automatic updates, preferring to handle my computer tasks personally. But I have to admit I liked this a hell of a lot better than the backup/uninstall/download/reinstall method for past SM updates! Thanks, guys. -- Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
Martin Freitag wrote: JohnW-Mpls schrieb: I switched back from 2.01 because it MAY have been the culprit that caused my system to crash 6 times in the last 2 months (after I moved to 2.0). Crashes were immediate appearance of a full blue screen with white text stating memory had been dumped and a cold boot is required - bad!! I've not seen one of those for years but I was in SeaMonkey when the last 2 happened - I don't remember about the first 4 times. It is highly unlikely that SM causes bluescreens. Bluscreen on WinNT-based system are nearly always due to hardware failure (RAM, harddisk,...) or bad drivers (very close to hardware ;-)). I have to say that last week I experienced the identical BSOD to the above while running SM 2.0.1. It's one of the only times in 28 years of running DOS and Windows on 11 different computers that this has happened. It hasn't recurred so far and my fingers are crossed. I'd suggest reading the bluescreen which file caused the problem and/or writing down the STOP error code. If it does happen again I will do so. I was too panicked to do anything at the time but hard boot and start over. Also checking the RAM with memtest86, or performing harddisk diagnostic could be a wise idea. I'm pretty sure that the problem wasn't with RAM. Then again, I have no idea what caused the crash. Usually program crashes in XP3 don't go to BSOD, that's for sure. The weird thing is that SM 2 has been a lot more stable than any previous version of SM 1.X. I have yet to experience a normal program crash after several weeks, as opposed to maybe once a month with SM 1.x; but that BSOD was new and frightening. -- Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18 - more BSOD info
Ken Rudolph wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: JohnW-Mpls schrieb: I switched back from 2.01 because it MAY have been the culprit that caused my system to crash 6 times in the last 2 months (after I moved to 2.0). Crashes were immediate appearance of a full blue screen with white text stating memory had been dumped and a cold boot is required - bad!! I've not seen one of those for years but I was in SeaMonkey when the last 2 happened - I don't remember about the first 4 times. It is highly unlikely that SM causes bluescreens. Bluscreen on WinNT-based system are nearly always due to hardware failure (RAM, harddisk,...) or bad drivers (very close to hardware ;-)). I have to say that last week I experienced the identical BSOD to the above while running SM 2.0.1. It's one of the only times in 28 years of running DOS and Windows on 11 different computers that this has happened. It hasn't recurred so far and my fingers are crossed. I'd suggest reading the bluescreen which file caused the problem and/or writing down the STOP error code. If it does happen again I will do so. I was too panicked to do anything at the time but hard boot and start over. Also checking the RAM with memtest86, or performing harddisk diagnostic could be a wise idea. I'm pretty sure that the problem wasn't with RAM. Then again, I have no idea what caused the crash. Usually program crashes in XP3 don't go to BSOD, that's for sure. The weird thing is that SM 2 has been a lot more stable than any previous version of SM 1.X. I have yet to experience a normal program crash after several weeks, as opposed to maybe once a month with SM 1.x; but that BSOD was new and frightening. OOPS! I just recalled that the BSOD happened when I plugged my printer into the USB port while attempting to print out an e-mail in SM 2.0.1. It probably was not SM itself which caused the BSOD, rather something with the printer hardware or USB interface. Anyway, after the re-boot it didn't recur. -- Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
coral ie tab
My primary computer hard drive went fried, and with it some of my SM 2.0.3 attachments (Win-XP ed3). One important one was Coral IE tab. With the new drive I go to the "Add-ons for SeaMonkey" page, find the correct attachment, highlight "SeaMonkey" and click on "download to SeaMonkey"; but it just takes me to a page to click on End-User License Agreement for ver. 1.63.20091024. There doesn't seem to be an option to approve the agreement; but when I click on "Download Now (windows)" it goes gray and I get the message: "To install Coral IE Tab and thousands of other Firefox add-ons, get Firefox, a free and open web browser from Mozilla. To learn more about Firefox and how it can make your internet experience better, click the button below. Learn More" and nothing downloads. I know that previously I was able to install Coral IE tab in SM; how can I do it again? Or is there *any* other way of getting an IE tab add-on into SM 2.0.3? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coral ie tab
BeeNeR wrote: On or about 2/28/2010 3:45 PM, Ken Rudolph typed the following: My primary computer hard drive went fried, and with it some of my SM 2.0.3 attachments (Win-XP ed3). One important one was Coral IE tab. With the new drive I go to the "Add-ons for SeaMonkey" page, find the correct attachment, highlight "SeaMonkey" and click on "download to SeaMonkey"; but it just takes me to a page to click on End-User License Agreement for ver. 1.63.20091024. There doesn't seem to be an option to approve the agreement; but when I click on "Download Now (windows)" it goes gray and I get the message: "To install Coral IE Tab and thousands of other Firefox add-ons, get Firefox, a free and open web browser from Mozilla. To learn more about Firefox and how it can make your internet experience better, click the button below. Learn More" and nothing downloads. I know that previously I was able to install Coral IE tab in SM; how can I do it again? Or is there *any* other way of getting an IE tab add-on into SM 2.0.3? I got it from here: http://coralietab.mozdev.org/ Click on install - allow cookies if needed - and let SM install it. Yes, I kept at it and managed to finally get it installed. Thanks. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Reporting broken sites
There's a site which keeps crashing Seamonkey 1.1.17 when I click on it, at least lately (it didn't used to happen). The site doesn't hang when I use Firefox 3.0.11. The site is: http://www.losangelesmovietimes.com/ On the SM Help menu there is a link to "Report Broken Web Site". However when I click on that it wants to report the URL of the site I'm on currently (my home page after restarting SM). The window which loads doesn't seem to allow editing the URL line to put in the site which is crashing the browser. And of course, when the browser is hung, there is no way to click on the Help menu. So, the Report link is useless for sites which crash Seamonkey. Isn't that a real bug? I wish I could say this was an isolated incident. But I'm finding more and more sites which hang in SM lately. Here's another: Load http://www.outfest.org/fest2009/ and then click on the "Buy Tickets & Online Film Guide" on the left side menu. Voila...hang. Again, it doesn't happen with Firefox or IE. Is this just my browser? Or is there a problem with SM? --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reporting broken sites
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/7/2009 6:41 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: There's a site which keeps crashing Seamonkey 1.1.17 when I click on it, at least lately (it didn't used to happen). The site doesn't hang when I use Firefox 3.0.11. The site is: http://www.losangelesmovietimes.com/ On the SM Help menu there is a link to "Report Broken Web Site". However when I click on that it wants to report the URL of the site I'm on currently (my home page after restarting SM). The window which loads doesn't seem to allow editing the URL line to put in the site which is crashing the browser. And of course, when the browser is hung, there is no way to click on the Help menu. So, the Report link is useless for sites which crash Seamonkey. Isn't that a real bug? I wish I could say this was an isolated incident. But I'm finding more and more sites which hang in SM lately. Here's another: Load http://www.outfest.org/fest2009/ and then click on the "Buy Tickets & Online Film Guide" on the left side menu. Voila...hang. Again, it doesn't happen with Firefox or IE. Is this just my browser? Or is there a problem with SM? --Ken Rudolph The problem with <http://www.losangelesmovietimes.com/> appears to lie within that Web page. It has 212 HTML errors. Spoofing Firefox with either Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009021910 Firefox/3.0.7 or Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17, NOT Firefox/2.0.0.20 did not help. Thus, I don't think it's a sniffing problem. I didn't try <http://www.outfest.org/fest2009/>. All well and good; but the question is why is Seamonkey 1.1.17 so much less robust than Firefox? And furthermore, why is the "broken site" window so useless? Will SM 2.0 be more Foxy, at least? --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reporting broken sites
Daniel wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: There's a site which keeps crashing Seamonkey 1.1.17 when I click on it, at least lately (it didn't used to happen). The site doesn't hang when I use Firefox 3.0.11. The site is: http://www.losangelesmovietimes.com/ On the SM Help menu there is a link to "Report Broken Web Site". However when I click on that it wants to report the URL of the site I'm on currently (my home page after restarting SM). The window which loads doesn't seem to allow editing the URL line to put in the site which is crashing the browser. And of course, when the browser is hung, there is no way to click on the Help menu. So, the Report link is useless for sites which crash Seamonkey. Isn't that a real bug? I wish I could say this was an isolated incident. But I'm finding more and more sites which hang in SM lately. Here's another: Load http://www.outfest.org/fest2009/ and then click on the "Buy Tickets & Online Film Guide" on the left side menu. Voila...hang. Again, it doesn't happen with Firefox or IE. Is this just my browser? Or is there a problem with SM? --Ken Rudolph The outfest site locked up my SM 1.1.15, couldn't even close the browser by clicking the "X", had to CTRl-ALT-Delete and end program. No Modem activity. These sites aren't exactly malware, being fairly typical of important web resources. The fact that SM 1x can't handle them, despite their deficiencies, is all the more reason that SM 2x is necessary. I'm not a beta kinda user...when IS 2.0 release version actually scheduled for? It is really needed NOW. --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reporting broken sites
Martin Feitag wrote: Ken Rudolph schrieb: These sites aren't exactly malware, being fairly typical of important web resources. The fact that SM 1x can't handle them, despite their deficiencies, is all the more reason that SM 2x is necessary. I'm not a beta kinda user...when IS 2.0 release version actually scheduled for? It is really needed NOW. --Ken Rudolph Sry but afaik there's only a BETA scheduled for now which is targeted around the 16th of July (so pretty soon, they're primarily waiting for the Thunderbird team to complete their latest TB beta of v3.0 because of being dependent on some code in there) Feel free to grab SM2.0alpha3 to test, it won't touch your existing SM and import all data to a new profile and is very stable, especially for an alpha version. regards Martin Even the thought of testing an "alpha" makes me shudder with angst. It seems to me that the news-mail part of SM 1x is not nearly so deficient and outdated as the browser portion. If it is Thunderbird 3 which is holding up SM 2x then maybe SM 2.0 should be released with a lesser mail client. I guess I'm especially despondent because I've been a fanatical supporter of the "suite" browser concept since Netscape 0.8 and now I feel that nothing sufficiently modern is out there that I'm comfortable using. The SeaMonkey Project is in danger of becoming irrelevant if they keep dithering and waiting for utter perfection. --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reporting broken sites
Martin Feitag wrote: PS: As said for an alpha it's very stable, don't compare it too much with other alphas you might have tested, as the codebase is pretty mature. Of course it's not recommended to replace SM1 with SM2 yet in a productivity environment but having SM2 parallely doesn't harm and keeps up the hope/interest ;-) Hey, I tried to download SM 2.0a3 to test and my virus checker quarantined it saying it was a trojan or malware. I have a feeling that it isn't such; but maybe I should wait at least for the beta? Incidentally, why does it trip the virus checker? No Mozilla program has ever done that in the past. --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE Tabs??
Samuel S wrote: Hello all.. I have SM 1.1.17 and had IE Tabs add on installed. Then it vanished... Now need assistance in getting it reloaded, as I need it for media player use. Suggestions and guidance on this from anyone? Click on https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/1419 and go down to the very bottom version 1.3.3 and click on that to install. That seems to be the only version of IE Tab which works with SM 1.x. At least it works for me. --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Facebook problems
Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the "What's on your mind" box on Facebook (but not the "comment" box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
George Carden wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the "What's on your mind" box on Facebook (but not the "comment" box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 Stan! That worked! Thanks so much. Yeah, it worked for me, too. Not only that, but it solved another nagging problem where my bank's bill pay page refused to accept the Seamonkey browser and totally hanged. I always had to remember every time to click on the "User Agent Switcher" in the Tools menu and set it to IE 6.0 or Firefox 2.0 before accessing the bill pay page in order to get to the page. Now I don't have to! I'm not sure how or why this works; but it does...and I thank you! --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
clashton wrote: On Sep 15, 5:04 pm, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: Ken Rudolph wrote: Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the "What's on your mind" box onFacebook(but not the "comment" box where it works fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this problem? Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 -- Stanimir This worked to some extent, but it seems I can type just see two lines of text in the box now. The text box does not expand to show all the typed text. Anyone else have this problem/know how to fix it? Actually, I have noticed this happening for a while. I'm pretty sure that if I continue to type past the two lines that the message is stored in the system and gets sent when "share" is clicked on. But, as you say, the box doesn't expand and nothing past line two is visible using SeaMonkey. I just tested it in Firefox and was able to write more than two lines and the box did expand. So the Firefox spoof works only up to a point (which is a great improvement in any case). Anybody else have any ideas? By the way, this *doesn't* happen in the "comment" boxes, which expand just fine. --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook problems
David E. Ross wrote: PLEASE: Any one who does this should also submit a bug report against the offending Web site. Otherwise you are encouraging such faulty behavior. If you don't know how to submit a bug report and don't want to establish a Bugzilla account, do the following: 1. Go to the Web site in question. 2. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Help > Report Broken Web Site]. 3. Follow the instructions. Here's the thing. I've been a loyal mozilla suite user since Netscape Navigator 0.8, and I'm not about to change my loyalty. But it does seem that lately there has been an exponential increase of "buggy" sites that work with Firefox 3.5 but not SeaMonkey 1.1.x. I'm not a beta kind of user, and I'm hoping that the release version of SM 2.0 will someday, hopefully soon, solve these problems...but in the meantime reporting all these broken sites just seems like a useless exercise in tilting at windmills. I've done it in the past and nothing ever improves. I've had to conclude that there's something inherently wrong with SM 1.x in the current web environment. It certainly isn't anywhere near as robust as Firefox's current browser (which takes forever to load and just isn't a *suite*...so I don't *want* to use it as my primary browser.) --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1
Robert Kaiser wrote: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1 is now available for free download on the SeaMonkey website. We encourage testers to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. What's the difference between this and the actual release? Since I'm not a techie, I chose not to be a beta tester; but I've been waiting for the actual release, which I had heard was happening "in a week or so". Apparently this still isn't the official release version? When is that scheduled for? Or should I start using this one now if I intend to go to 2.0 when it is released. I'm so confused. --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Spoofing in SM 2.0
I'm having trouble with my bank's billpay. They don't accept the SeaMonkey 2.0 browser, and it even crashes the browser. It used to be in SM 1.1.18 that I could spoof IE or Firefox (or even permanently change the User-Agent in the config file). But now the Tools menu doesn't even have a temporary spoofing option. Any work around for this with SM 2.0? Could somebody walk me through the procedure of modifying the configuration file if that's the best fix? I did report this problem to the SM project. Here's the message I get which freezes my browser & doesn't even allow the "Back" button to operate: The browser you are using is not currently supported by Wachovia Online BillPay. For best results and to ensure accuracy, we recommend you use one of the following supported browsers: * Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 (download for Windows Vista and XP) * Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 (download for Windows XP) * Firefox 3 (download for Windows Vista and XP) * Apple Safari 4 (download for Mac OS X 10.5.x) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Spoofing in SM 2.0
Ken Rudolph wrote: I'm having trouble with my bank's billpay. They don't accept the SeaMonkey 2.0 browser, and it even crashes the browser. It used to be in SM 1.1.18 that I could spoof IE or Firefox (or even permanently change the User-Agent in the config file). But now the Tools menu doesn't even have a temporary spoofing option. Any work around for this with SM 2.0? Could somebody walk me through the procedure of modifying the configuration file if that's the best fix? I did report this problem to the SM project. Here's the message I get which freezes my browser & doesn't even allow the "Back" button to operate: The browser you are using is not currently supported by Wachovia Online BillPay. For best results and to ensure accuracy, we recommend you use one of the following supported browsers: * Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 (download for Windows Vista and XP) * Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 (download for Windows XP) * Firefox 3 (download for Windows Vista and XP) * Apple Safari 4 (download for Mac OS X 10.5.x) I seem to have solved this for the time being by adding "Firefox/3.5.4" to the general.useragent.extra.seamonkey line in about:config. Am I causing any potential permanent harm with this? --Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Spoofing in SM 2.0
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/29/2009 8:52 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I'm having trouble with my bank's billpay. They don't accept the SeaMonkey 2.0 browser, and it even crashes the browser. It used to be in SM 1.1.18 that I could spoof IE or Firefox (or even permanently change the User-Agent in the config file). But now the Tools menu doesn't even have a temporary spoofing option. Any work around for this with SM 2.0? Could somebody walk me through the procedure of modifying the configuration file if that's the best fix? I did report this problem to the SM project. Here's the message I get which freezes my browser& doesn't even allow the "Back" button to operate: The browser you are using is not currently supported by Wachovia Online BillPay. For best results and to ensure accuracy, we recommend you use one of the following supported browsers: * Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 (download for Windows Vista and XP) * Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 (download for Windows XP) * Firefox 3 (download for Windows Vista and XP) * Apple Safari 4 (download for Mac OS X 10.5.x) I seem to have solved this for the time being by adding "Firefox/3.5.4" to the general.useragent.extra.seamonkey line in about:config. Am I causing any potential permanent harm with this? --Ken Rudolph If you had a menu bar or tool bar option for this in SM 1.1.x, you must have installed an extension to provide that capability. This was not and is still not an inherent SeaMonkey capability. As does Bankston, I use the PrefBar extension for this; but there are other extensions with similar spoofing capabilities. Having migrated my SM 1.1.18 preferences to SM 2, this morning I updated the PrefBar menulist item for UA spoofing to show: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0, NOT Firefox/3.5.3 Previously, it indicated SeaMonkey/1.1.18. I really think you should indeed install an extension to do this and not make the "Firefox" portion permanent. Good extensions will automatically result in reverting back to your real UA string when you terminate and then relaunch SeaMonkey. This is very important. You want as many Web accesses as possible to show that they were from SeaMonkey and not from Firefox. Otherwise, Web developers will have not incentive to accommodate SeaMonkey. (The proper accommodation is to sniff for "Gecko" and not for "Firefox". The best accommodation is to create Web pages that don't require sniffing.) I don't think it's my job to try to educate web developers. I'm a pragmatist who just wants to be able to access my bill pay web site. I wish web developers would sniff for "Gecko", of course...but I can't see my paltry browsing having any affect on them. By the way, your signature should have the "-- " on a separate line from your name. And that's dash-dash-space, not merely dash-dash. See RFC 3676 at<ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3676.txt>. For an example, see my signature immediately below. David, I never have intended that my "signature" be wrtten as a sig.file, so I intentionally don't put the "-- " on a separate line. It's just a plain old signature. But I appreciate the advice, even if I have no intention of changing a 28 year habit of e-signing my posts... --Ken Rudolph -- No sig.file is meant to appear here. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Old profile
So apparently SM 2.0's profile is in a new folder called Application Data|Mozilla|SeaMonkey|Profiles. I believe my old SM 1.1.18 profile is in Application Data|Mozilla|Profiles|default. I backed up that folder to another hard drive yesterday, just in case. I've also uninstalled SM 1.1.18. Is it now safe to delete the entire folder Application Data|Mozilla|Profiles? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Spoofing in SM 2.0
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I'm having trouble with my bank's billpay. They don't accept the SeaMonkey 2.0 browser, and it even crashes the browser. It used to be in SM 1.1.18 that I could spoof IE or Firefox (or even permanently change the User-Agent in the config file). But now the Tools menu doesn't even have a temporary spoofing option. Any work around for this with SM 2.0? Could somebody walk me through the procedure of modifying the configuration file if that's the best fix? I did report this problem to the SM project. Here's the message I get which freezes my browser & doesn't even allow the "Back" button to operate: The browser you are using is not currently supported by Wachovia Online BillPay. For best results and to ensure accuracy, we recommend you use one of the following supported browsers: * Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 (download for Windows Vista and XP) * Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 (download for Windows XP) * Firefox 3 (download for Windows Vista and XP) * Apple Safari 4 (download for Mac OS X 10.5.x) I've been using Wachovia BillPay for years, first with the Mozilla suite and then with SeaMonkey, and I've never seen that message. And I don't spoof my UA. Currently on SM 1.1.16, but if that was fine for you and you lost access after you upgraded, I'll hold off. I was able to utilize Wachovia BillPay in SM 2.0 using the spoofing techniques mentioned previously. So I wouldn't forgo the really nice advantages of SM 2.0 just for this. Here's what to do (using Win-XP): in the browser navigator window type about:config and click through the warning. Right click on the body to get menu, click on New|String. Type in "general.useragent.extra.spoof" (no quote marks, of course) in the first box. Then "NOT Firefox/3.5.4" in the second box. That's it. I had no trouble going to BillPay after that. By the way, I also had to do something similar in the about:config file with SM 1.1.18. You're lucky you've never had this problem. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
I Love SeaMonkey 2.0!
The title says it all. I'm discovering all sorts of things that now work that didn't before with SM 1.x. For instance: the Reference line now works the way it's supposed to! That's just one; but there are all sorts of big and little touches which are greatly appreciated. Thanks, people...all the work, coding, testing that must have gone into finally completing the new suite was really worth it. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Site problem
Win-XP 3rd. SM 2.0 OK, here's a strange one. I've even had an e-mail exchange with the site and received really weird advice, more about that below. The site is http://www.puzzability.com/puzzles/index.shtml . When I click on any of the java encoded puzzles (for instance Common Knowledge) java fails to work giving an error message "Error. Click for details" with a lot of gobbledegook which means nothing to me. This even after reloading the most current version of java for Mozilla. The same exact thing happens with Firefox and Google Chrome. The site does work fine in IE 7.0, however. But, and here's the strange thing, when I finally figured out how to add Coral IETab to SM 2.0 and used it, it still doesn't work with SM 2.0: it doesn't give the same java error message; but the java logo just keeps spinning and nothing happens. I contacted the support person at the site and she wrote me that they were sorry about this; but a possible workaround that "works for others" was IE Tab. Haha. Anybody else noticing this? Any ideas? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Site problem
NoOp wrote: On 11/04/2009 11:50 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Win-XP 3rd. SM 2.0 OK, here's a strange one. I've even had an e-mail exchange with the site and received really weird advice, more about that below. The site is http://www.puzzability.com/puzzles/index.shtml . When I click on any of the java encoded puzzles (for instance Common Knowledge) java fails to work giving an error message "Error. Click for details" with a lot of gobbledegook which means nothing to me. This even after reloading the most current version of java for Mozilla. The same exact thing happens with Firefox and Google Chrome. The site does work fine in IE 7.0, however. But, and here's the strange thing, when I finally figured out how to add Coral IETab to SM 2.0 and used it, it still doesn't work with SM 2.0: it doesn't give the same java error message; but the java logo just keeps spinning and nothing happens. I contacted the support person at the site and she wrote me that they were sorry about this; but a possible workaround that "works for others" was IE Tab. Haha. Anybody else noticing this? Any ideas? Send them this: Java Plug-in 1.6.0_16 load: class commonknowledge.class not found. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: commonknowledge.class at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.findClass(Applet2ClassLoader.java:152) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:307) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadCode(Plugin2ClassLoader.java:445) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager.createApplet(Plugin2Manager.java:2880) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager$AppletExecutionRunnable.run(Plugin2Manager.java:1397) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Caused by: java.io.IOException: open HTTP connection failed:http://www.puzzability.com/cgi-bin/commonknowledge/class.class at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.getBytes(Applet2ClassLoader.java:460) at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.access$000(Applet2ClassLoader.java:46) at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader$1.run(Applet2ClassLoader.java:126) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.findClass(Applet2ClassLoader.java:123) ... 6 more Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: commonknowledge.class I did. It didn't do any good. But I have a feeling that the lady who responded is not their tech person...but it was the only contact I had. Can anybody understand what this error message actually *means*? Is it a flaw in their programing? One that they could repair if they wanted to? I'm obviously not getting anyplace. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Site problem
Mark Hansen wrote: On 11/4/2009 1:32 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: NoOp wrote: On 11/04/2009 11:50 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Win-XP 3rd. SM 2.0 OK, here's a strange one. I've even had an e-mail exchange with the site and received really weird advice, more about that below. The site is http://www.puzzability.com/puzzles/index.shtml . When I click on any of the java encoded puzzles (for instance Common Knowledge) java fails to work giving an error message "Error. Click for details" with a lot of gobbledegook which means nothing to me. This even after reloading the most current version of java for Mozilla. The same exact thing happens with Firefox and Google Chrome. The site does work fine in IE 7.0, however. But, and here's the strange thing, when I finally figured out how to add Coral IETab to SM 2.0 and used it, it still doesn't work with SM 2.0: it doesn't give the same java error message; but the java logo just keeps spinning and nothing happens. I contacted the support person at the site and she wrote me that they were sorry about this; but a possible workaround that "works for others" was IE Tab. Haha. Anybody else noticing this? Any ideas? Send them this: Java Plug-in 1.6.0_16 load: class commonknowledge.class not found. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: commonknowledge.class at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.findClass(Applet2ClassLoader.java:152) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:307) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadCode(Plugin2ClassLoader.java:445) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager.createApplet(Plugin2Manager.java:2880) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager$AppletExecutionRunnable.run(Plugin2Manager.java:1397) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Caused by: java.io.IOException: open HTTP connection failed:http://www.puzzability.com/cgi-bin/commonknowledge/class.class at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.getBytes(Applet2ClassLoader.java:460) at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.access$000(Applet2ClassLoader.java:46) at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader$1.run(Applet2ClassLoader.java:126) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.findClass(Applet2ClassLoader.java:123) ... 6 more Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: commonknowledge.class I did. It didn't do any good. But I have a feeling that the lady who responded is not their tech person...but it was the only contact I had. Can anybody understand what this error message actually *means*? Is it a flaw in their programing? One that they could repair if they wanted to? I'm obviously not getting anyplace. Yes, it's an error in their application. The application needs to be able to find all the classes (runtime application objects) that it requires to run the application. It can't find the one called: commonknowledge.class. This means either the class is missing from the applet package, or the application manifest doesn't include a viable Class Path (the path used by the application to locate class objects). What happens if you spoof a Firefox user agent identity? I *am* spoofing NOT Firefox 3.5, which seems to work for most applications. Anyway, the puzzles on this site don't work in Firefox itself *or* Google Chrome. It doesn't work in SM 2.0 with the "experimental" IE Tab feature. It *only* works in IE itself. I can't test it with SM 1.1.18 because I've discarded it. But, as you say... Note that I'm still running 1.1.X here, and the puzzles work for me, so I can't test that. Well, yes, I never had a problem before with SM 1.1.18 or prior versions. So why now? Good luck. I suspect luck has little to do with it. And since the site doesn't seem to care (in other words not enough people are complaining) I guess I'll just have to give up my daily puzzle fix. I'll get over it. I'm certainly not going to load IE just for this. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Site problem (update #2)
Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win-XP 3rd. SM 2.0 OK, here's a strange one. I've even had an e-mail exchange with the site and received really weird advice, more about that below. The site is http://www.puzzability.com/puzzles/index.shtml . When I click on any of the java encoded puzzles (for instance Common Knowledge) java fails to work giving an error message "Error. Click for details" with a lot of gobbledegook which means nothing to me. This even after reloading the most current version of java for Mozilla. The same exact thing happens with Firefox and Google Chrome. The site does work fine in IE 7.0, however. But, and here's the strange thing, when I finally figured out how to add Coral IETab to SM 2.0 and used it, it still doesn't work with SM 2.0: it doesn't give the same java error message; but the java logo just keeps spinning and nothing happens. I contacted the support person at the site and she wrote me that they were sorry about this; but a possible workaround that "works for others" was IE Tab. Haha. Anybody else noticing this? Any ideas? At least now the site is working in SM 2.0 and Firefox using the appropriate IE Tab add-ons. It still shows the Java error with Google Chrome and SM 2.0 in normal mode. Apparently from responses to this thread the Java loading flaw in SM 2.0 is replicatable; but it doesn't occur with SM 1.1.18. I'm sort of curious as to what SM 2.0 has changed that makes it not load Java on this site the same way? Obviously, nobody wants to deal with this bug...but just for giggles, here's the really strange thing. Starting the process of accessing this site over again this week, when I try using SM 2.0 with Coral IE Tab for this site the Java logo just keeps spinning and nothing happens. If I THEN close SeaMonkey and open Firefox 3.5 and load this same page using IE Tab the page loads correctly. If I THEN close Firefox and THEN open SeaMonkey 2.0 AGAIN and load this site using Coral IE Tab, the site works fine (incidentally this is the same procedure that I used last week described in the paragraph above...when the page didn't load today I decided to replicate my procedure of last week and lo and behold it worked again.) What is Firefox doing to affect my Java settings to make them finally work with SM 2.0? -- Ken Rudolph (color me perplexed) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.3.3
I resisted upgrading from 2.0.14 for all this time because of all the controversy on this group. However today after daily reminders to upgrade stared me in the face for the umpteenth time, I just bit the bullet and clicked on "yes". The automated upgrading took all of 3 minutes to download and install, and went flawlessly. I can't find a single problem yet; and even some sites which didn't accept SM before (due to non-supported browser), now do accept it. I suppose that is because Firefox is now ID'ed instead of SeaMonkey? That's certainly OK by me! So, thanks, developers. I can now feel ever so much safer again without guilt. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: WebGL demos
WLS wrote: cmcadams wrote: Among the advantages of staying current on SM (hey, it can't ALL be bugs and angst) are these particularly nifty, IMHO, WebGL examples: https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/webkit/Earth.html https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/google/shiny-teapot/index.html From here: http://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki/Demo_Repository First you need current supported hardware, and they are nifty. Love the teapot! Agreed! I discovered by attempting to follow these links that I had to upgrade my NVIDIA graphic card drivers on my 1-yr. old desktop. I'm not sure why I had never received notification of the important update from somebody (either Dell or NVIDIA). But thanks to this, I did the upgrade and it downloaded and installed easily. And now I can view these WegGL demos with SeaMonkey, no problem. That's just another reason why I read this group regularly. Thanks again. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
URL crashes SeaMonkey
I've been accessing this site for months. Suddenly (starting yesterday) the site is crashing my SeaMonkey browser. It loads fine in Chrome, however. http://www.nytimes.com/pages/crosswords/index.html Is there something I can do about this? Does that happen for others? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL crashes SeaMonkey
WLS wrote: > Ken Rudolph wrote: >> I've been accessing this site for months. Suddenly (starting >> yesterday) the site is crashing my SeaMonkey browser. It loads fine in >> Chrome, however. http://www.nytimes.com/pages/crosswords/index.html >> >> Is there something I can do about this? Does that happen for others? >> > > Didn't crash on me. > > What does the crash report say? Enter about:crashes in the address bar. > > Best yet provide a link to the submitted crash report in a reply. > The crash report doesn't show any indication of the current incidents of the program crashing. However, what happens is that every time I click on this link SeaMonkey and all its open windows suddenly close. When I try to click on SM to re-open it I get a window which starts out: "Your previous SeaMonkey session closed unexpectedly." SM version 2.4.1, Windows 7. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.5
I see no notice here that SeaMonkey 2.5 release version is out. However, tonight I got an automatic download and install of the program. I think that I'm running SM 2.5. However, is it possible that I was sent a bogus release version and am running a beta instead? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problem with "find"
SM 2.5, Win-7. For a while now I've had the problem that whenever I
control-F ("find") on a web site and start to type something in the
little box under the tabs line that SM provides, that the program goes
unresponsive, the window turns white, and SM effectively crashes. This
is very annoying. I always hesitate to call a bug a "bug"; but do other
people have this problem? If not, am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Problem with "find"
Hartmut Figge wrote:
Ken Rudolph:
SM 2.5, Win-7. For a while now I've had the problem that whenever I
control-F ("find") on a web site and start to type something in the
little box under the tabs line that SM provides, that the program goes
unresponsive, the window turns white, and SM effectively crashes.
Never occurred to me.
This is very annoying. I always hesitate to call a bug a "bug"; but
do other people have this problem? If not, am I doing something
wrong?
Did you test with safe-mode?
I tested it in safe-mode and it didn't crash. Then I re-tested it again
in regular mode and, lo and behold the program didn't crash. Maybe 2.5
fixed it, and the previous crash this afternoon which precipitated this
question was an aberration. Anyway, sorry to have brought up what
apparently is a non-problem.
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"Safe Mode"
Win XP, SM 2.6.1 On my laptop, for some reason I'm set to load SM in safe mode. I'm not sure what that means; but instead of loading SM directly I get a box to disable permanently some various things. I don't think I want this option activated. But I don't have any idea how it came about in the first place, nor how to go back to normal mode (should I?) Any advice would be helpful. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Bookmark file
I want to transfer my most recent W-7 desktop bookmark file to my XP laptop. The only problem is that the bookmarks.html file in my current desktop profile is an older version that isn't up to date. I notice that in the SM profile there is a folder called "bookmarkbackups" which does have a series of daily files the most recent of which is bookmarks-2012-03-12.json. But when I click on this I get a notification that windows can't open the file. What's happening here? Is there anyplace where an up-to-date bookmarks.html file exists? W-7, SM 2.7.2 Thanks. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
hbo site problems
I seem to be unable to load http://www.hbogo.com in SeaMonkey. All I get is a spinning logo and the site never loads. I'm having no problem accessing that site using Google Chrome. For that matter, even http://www.hbo.com just shows a white screen in SM, but loads in Chrome (at least on my computer...last week I had no problems). Anybody else having this problem? Any ideas how to make it work in SM? I'm running SM 2.10 on Win-7 Ult. I did an automatic install of a new version of Shockwave Flash this morning...it's listed in Enabled plugins as File: NPSWF32_3_300_257.DLL, Version: 11.3.300.257, Shockwave Flash 11.3 r300 . Could that be a problem? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hbo site problems
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/14/12 7:07 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: I seem to be unable to load http://www.hbogo.com in SeaMonkey. All I get is a spinning logo and the site never loads. I'm having no problem accessing that site using Google Chrome. For that matter, even http://www.hbo.com just shows a white screen in SM, but loads in Chrome (at least on my computer...last week I had no problems). Anybody else having this problem? Any ideas how to make it work in SM? I'm running SM 2.10 on Win-7 Ult. I did an automatic install of a new version of Shockwave Flash this morning...it's listed in Enabled plugins as File: NPSWF32_3_300_257.DLL, Version: 11.3.300.257, Shockwave Flash 11.3 r300 . Could that be a problem? Windows XP Home Edition SP3 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 SeaMonkey/2.10 Flash 11.3 r300(257) (11.3.300.257) It works for me. Is it possible you have FlashBlock enabled? When I first go to <http://www.hbogo.com>, most of my browser window is filled with a Flash presentation. I doubt that I have FlashBlock enabled. How would I even know? In any case, even though I install Flash, I can't get the Adobe test site to play the animation with SM (again, it plays fine in Chrome.) Have you tried going to <http://www.hbogo.com> in Safe Mode? Yes, nothing is different. When I go to <http://www.hbo.com> instead of <http://www.hbogo.com>, I get redirected to <http://www.hbo.com/html/error/browser_message_e.html?return=http://www.hbo.com/>, which is a page with the following under the HBO logo: The browser you are using is not recommended It appears you are currently using SeaMonkey 2.10 which is not fully supported by this site. To optimize your viewing experience, please view HBO.com in one of the following browsers: Internet Explorer 7.0+ - Get Latest Firefox 4.0+ - Get Latest Google Chrome 10.0+ - Get Latest If you choose to continue viewing the website with your current browser, you may encounter problems. Don't prompt me to upgrade again. Continue to HBO.com The next-to-last line above has a checkbox. I had to type the last line above manually; it's actually an image that is a link. When I selected that link, I got the actual <http://www.hbo.com/>, again with a very large Flash presentation. Notice that HBO is still touting Firefox 4.0 and IE7!! I don't get the error page initially. When I use your link to the error page it says "It appears you are currently using Firefox 13.0 etc." rather than SeaMonkey 2.10. And then when I click on the "Continue to HBO.com" I still only get a white page. When I spoof Firefox 13.0, I go directly to <http://www.hbo.com/> without any redirection to <http://www.hbo.com/html/error/browser_message_e.html?return=http://www.hbo.com/>. That raises the question: Have you disabled "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (as I have done)? I have no idea what you mean. Obviously the site thinks I'm using Firefox 13.0, which means that I probably haven't disabled "Advertise Firefox compatibility". For what it is worth, last week I had no problem accessing hbogo.com with SeaMonkey. Now I can't even get the error page. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hbo site problems
Jim Taylor wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I seem to be unable to load http://www.hbogo.com in SeaMonkey. All I get is a spinning logo and the site never loads. I'm having no problem accessing that site using Google Chrome. For that matter, even http://www.hbo.com just shows a white screen in SM, but loads in Chrome (at least on my computer...last week I had no problems). Anybody else having this problem? Any ideas how to make it work in SM? I'm running SM 2.10 on Win-7 Ult. I did an automatic install of a new version of Shockwave Flash this morning...it's listed in Enabled plugins as File: NPSWF32_3_300_257.DLL, Version: 11.3.300.257, Shockwave Flash 11.3 r300 . Could that be a problem? It works for me on SM 2.10 Windows 7 Home Premium Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Firefox/13.0 SeaMonkey/2.10 using that version of flash (File: NPSWF32_11_3_300_257.dll Version: 11.3.300.257 Shockwave Flash 11.3 I give up. I can't get any flash videos to play in SM (they all play in Chrome). I even uninstalled SM and all Adobe flash stuff and reinstalled them. I'm still showing the correct plug-in info for Shockwave Flash. Everything tells me it is up to date. But now, even in Facebook or the IMDb when I try to run any videos in SM I just get a blank white screen. I guess I'll just have to revert to Chrome for all web browsing. This is very, very disturbing to me (I've been a Netscape/Mozilla Suite user since the beginning and have never had a problem like this.) -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hbo site problems
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I guess I'll just have to revert to Chrome for all web browsing. Have you tried Firefox? IMO, much better, and more private than Chrome. You don't want to sell your soul to Google, do you? I just downloaded Firefox and tried it. #1, it asked me if I wanted to import bookmarks from IE or Chrome or none. So much for my SeaMonkey bookmarks. #2, I had the SAME EXACT PROBLEM with Flash videos, just got a white screen on the IMDb and Facebook and "An error occurred. Please try again later" on You Tube (which is exactly what happens in SM). I'm still not having the problem with Chrome. I'm at my wits end. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hbo site problems
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I guess I'll just have to revert to Chrome for all web browsing. Have you tried Firefox? IMO, much better, and more private than Chrome. You don't want to sell your soul to Google, do you? I just downloaded Firefox and tried it. #1, it asked me if I wanted to import bookmarks from IE or Chrome or none. So much for my SeaMonkey bookmarks. #2, I had the SAME EXACT PROBLEM with Flash videos, just got a white screen on the IMDb and Facebook and "An error occurred. Please try again later" on You Tube (which is exactly what happens in SM). I'm still not having the problem with Chrome. I'm at my wits end. Did you make sure Flash was installed/recognized in/by Firefox? Check the Add-Ons/Plugins page (I guess you're familiar with that by now. ) Firefox Plugins show Shockwave Flash 11.3.300.257. And checking to see if it is up to date shows Shockwave Flash is up to date. Still, I am not able to run ANY flash videos in Firefox OR SeaMonkey. A wit is a long way... you have plenty left! No, I'm running out. I have no problem with those videos in Firefox, SeaMonkey, Chromium, Opera, Dillo. Are you allowing JavaScript and cookies? ..might have something to do with it. I'm allowing all cookies. I can't find JavaScript...but I know that I never disabled it. I didn't have this problem with SeaMonkey 2.9. Is it possible to go back? Would that even help? I'm scared to even try. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
