Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
On 11/10/2020 9:21 PM, Ray Davison
wrote:
đ´
Mr. Ed đ´ via support-seamonkey wrote:
Anyone still using
"MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x
SeaMonkey's?
A long time ago, when storage space was expensive, it might have
been reasonable to compress backups. But now that storage space
is cheap, why have a backup that you need to unpack to read or
copy?
For profiles and mail I use XCOPY new files - no, I do not run
with profiles and mail in the same tree, so they are also backed
up to their own trees. I clone entire partitions and HDDs to
other HDDs so they are usable without any processing - yes, that
includes boot partitions from multiple OSs. And none of this
cares what version of anything is used.
Ray
 -
WOW! XCOPY.! Used it quite a it back in DOS days an early
widows.Â
I was using MozBackup away back. until it became unsupported.Â
Was told that it still worked by an acquaintance and thought I
would ask the group to see if anyone else was using it. Perhaps
someone had updated it. Looks like the answer to both questions
is "No";.
Then I started using a batch file to back up my daily work -
including my profiles of SM and others,
For the last few years I've been using "Pure Sync", a free
program as my back up software. It has many user programmable
features .
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Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
Ray Davison wrote: đ´ Mr. Ed đ´ via support-seamonkey wrote: Anyone still using "MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x SeaMonkey's? A long time ago, when storage space was expensive, it might have been reasonable to compress backups. But now that storage space is cheap, why have a backup that you need to unpack to read or copy? For profiles and mail I use XCOPY new files - no, I do not run with profiles and mail in the same tree, so they are also backed up to their own trees. I clone entire partitions and HDDs to other HDDs so they are usable without any processing - yes, that includes boot partitions from multiple OSs. And none of this cares what version of anything is used. Ray If you always take complete backups and only want 1 copy (or maybe 2), that makes sense. If you start using incremental backups so you have multiple restore points, you will probably need to compress. This discussion is about Mozilla profiles in the broadest sense and I'm not sure why anyone would want to look at anything other than the most recent backup of a profile. -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
đ´ Mr. Ed đ´ via support-seamonkey wrote: Anyone still using "MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x SeaMonkey's? A long time ago, when storage space was expensive, it might have been reasonable to compress backups. But now that storage space is cheap, why have a backup that you need to unpack to read or copy? For profiles and mail I use XCOPY new files - no, I do not run with profiles and mail in the same tree, so they are also backed up to their own trees. I clone entire partitions and HDDs to other HDDs so they are usable without any processing - yes, that includes boot partitions from multiple OSs. And none of this cares what version of anything is used. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
NFN Smith wrote on 04/11/20 03:26: Daniel wrote: If one were to use MozBackUp on my SeaMonkey 2.49.5 profile, prior to updating to SM 2.53.4, where would MozBackUp put the profiles back-up file?? If I remember correctly, that's something you can choose in the UI. If I'm making backups by simply copying the profiles folder, I've gotten in the habit of copying to my Downloads folder. On the other hand, since my backup tool supports it (and I don't do full-image backups), I make sure that my daily data backups include %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey, and as a result, I get backups every day. I had actually run MozBackUp, in my Win7 entity, before asking my question and I cannot recall seeing where it asked for a location, but I'll run it, carefully, again, and see what happens. ;-) That's my intention as well, but I'm pretty slack, so I figured if I backed up the profile and then, later, either installed SM 2.53.4 *OR* made a complete Harddisk clone/copy, it wouldn't matter too much! For what it's worth, a couple of years ago, I was having problems with Seamonkey crashes that were corrupting my POP inbox in the mail client, and it was nice to be able to go to my backups and recover just the inbox and index, as well as the POPSTATE.DAT file. Smith - Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
Daniel wrote: If one were to use MozBackUp on my SeaMonkey 2.49.5 profile, prior to updating to SM 2.53.4, where would MozBackUp put the profiles back-up file?? If I remember correctly, that's something you can choose in the UI. If I'm making backups by simply copying the profiles folder, I've gotten in the habit of copying to my Downloads folder. On the other hand, since my backup tool supports it (and I don't do full-image backups), I make sure that my daily data backups include %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey, and as a result, I get backups every day. For what it's worth, a couple of years ago, I was having problems with Seamonkey crashes that were corrupting my POP inbox in the mail client, and it was nice to be able to go to my backups and recover just the inbox and index, as well as the POPSTATE.DAT file. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
NFN Smith wrote on 3/11/2020 3:08 AM: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: I still use it on 2.53 and 2.54. I do not see why it would not work, all is does is take you profile and zip and compress is in to a single file. It does allow you to decide want you want to backup or restore. I guess you could just use a WinZip program although not as quick and easy. If that is all it does then you have to ask yourself the question: Why did the developer abandon it citing "too many Firefox releases"? Some may depend on how you try to use it. If you're doing complete backup and restore, you might be OK. All we know for sure about reasons for abandonment is what is listed on the developer's page. I can speculate that the issues being caused by Mozilla's Rapid Release scheduling is frequent changes to data files being used by individual components, and where it was becoming increasingly difficult to do a partial data restore from a backup, without risking loss of data. I believe that work on MozBackup stopped sometime around Firefox 50 (give or take a couple of versions), but before changes happened around Firefox 54 that ended up killing backward compatibility of profiles, and both Thunderbird and Seamonkey are now doing that, as well. (Recently, I've discovered that Thunderbird does allow a downgrade, where you can do a one-time launch from command with a command switch, -allow-downgrade or something similar.) As noted, if you're backing up a full profile, and all that is happening is that the data is being copied into a .ZIP, and a recovery is merely extracting from the .ZIP for the same version of Seamonkey, you still may be safe. But don't try to do a partial recovery, of something like just your saved passwords or your bookmarks. If you're just trying to get copies of your full profile, it's just as easy to copy %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey to another location, or use a tool like 7-Zip or PeaZip to put it into a compressed archive. Smith If one were to use MozBackUp on my SeaMonkey 2.49.5 profile, prior to updating to SM 2.53.4, where would MozBackUp put the profiles back-up file?? -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
NFN Smith wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: I still use it on 2.53 and 2.54. I do not see why it would not work, all is does is take you profile and zip and compress is in to a single file. It does allow you to decide want you want to backup or restore. I guess you could just use a WinZip program although not as quick and easy. If that is all it does then you have to ask yourself the question: Why did the developer abandon it citing "too many Firefox releases"? Some may depend on how you try to use it. If you're doing complete backup and restore, you might be OK. All we know for sure about reasons for abandonment is what is listed on the developer's page. I can speculate that the issues being caused by Mozilla's Rapid Release scheduling is frequent changes to data files being used by individual components, and where it was becoming increasingly difficult to do a partial data restore from a backup, without risking loss of data. I believe that work on MozBackup stopped sometime around Firefox 50 (give or take a couple of versions), but before changes happened around Firefox 54 that ended up killing backward compatibility of profiles, and both Thunderbird and Seamonkey are now doing that, as well. (Recently, I've discovered that Thunderbird does allow a downgrade, where you can do a one-time launch from command with a command switch, -allow-downgrade or something similar.) As noted, if you're backing up a full profile, and all that is happening is that the data is being copied into a .ZIP, and a recovery is merely extracting from the .ZIP for the same version of Seamonkey, you still may be safe. But don't try to do a partial recovery, of something like just your saved passwords or your bookmarks. If you're just trying to get copies of your full profile, it's just as easy to copy %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey to another location, or use a tool like 7-Zip or PeaZip to put it into a compressed archive. Smith Nicely said, I'm glad you took the time to say this! I have not been online in sometime I can not seem to find time. Seems like the older you get the less time you can find. Thank you again, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: I still use it on 2.53 and 2.54. I do not see why it would not work, all is does is take you profile and zip and compress is in to a single file. It does allow you to decide want you want to backup or restore. I guess you could just use a WinZip program although not as quick and easy. If that is all it does then you have to ask yourself the question: Why did the developer abandon it citing "too many Firefox releases"? Some may depend on how you try to use it. If you're doing complete backup and restore, you might be OK. All we know for sure about reasons for abandonment is what is listed on the developer's page. I can speculate that the issues being caused by Mozilla's Rapid Release scheduling is frequent changes to data files being used by individual components, and where it was becoming increasingly difficult to do a partial data restore from a backup, without risking loss of data. I believe that work on MozBackup stopped sometime around Firefox 50 (give or take a couple of versions), but before changes happened around Firefox 54 that ended up killing backward compatibility of profiles, and both Thunderbird and Seamonkey are now doing that, as well. (Recently, I've discovered that Thunderbird does allow a downgrade, where you can do a one-time launch from command with a command switch, -allow-downgrade or something similar.) As noted, if you're backing up a full profile, and all that is happening is that the data is being copied into a .ZIP, and a recovery is merely extracting from the .ZIP for the same version of Seamonkey, you still may be safe. But don't try to do a partial recovery, of something like just your saved passwords or your bookmarks. If you're just trying to get copies of your full profile, it's just as easy to copy %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey to another location, or use a tool like 7-Zip or PeaZip to put it into a compressed archive. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
Danny Kile wrote: đ´ Mr. Ed đ´ wrote: Anyone still using "MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x SeaMonkey's? I still use it on 2.53 and 2.54. I do not see why it would not work, all is does is take you profile and zip and compress is in to a single file. It does allow you to decide want you want to backup or restore. I guess you could just use a WinZip program although not as quick and easy. If that is all it does then you have to ask yourself the question: Why did the developer abandon it citing "too many Firefox releases"? -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
đ´ Mr. Ed đ´ wrote: True, but it was working up to 2.48. I used it to copy when installing SM on a laptop. A friend asked because he wanted to do the same and I wasn't sure if it worked after that since I've been doing a backup doing the same as you suggested each night using a batch file to get all my daily work backed up. You may be OK if you're doing a backup of your entire profile, and where any recovery you do is for all the data. From the notes I've seen (and problems with keeping up with frequency of Mozilla changes), my suspicion is that problems are likely to be related to partial recoveries. Using MozBackup to copy a profile to a new machine may have minimal risk, if you're not asking it to do more than write/read to a .ZIP archive. In any case, the place you want to be careful about is overwriting existing files. To me, the risk of data loss may be greater than zero. I will note that there's a recent development of a Firefox backup tool https://www.sordum.org/12298/simple-firefox-backup-v1-2/ . I know that it exists, but haven't tried anything with it, and I don't know if you can use it with Seamonkey or not. However, the notes on that page are definitely worth reading, where they give adequate detail of their approach. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
đ´ Mr. Ed đ´ wrote: Anyone still using "MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x SeaMonkey's? I still use it on 2.53 and 2.54. I do not see why it would not work, all is does is take you profile and zip and compress is in to a single file. It does allow you to decide want you want to backup or restore. I guess you could just use a WinZip program although not as quick and easy. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
On 10/10/2020 1:48 PM, NFN Smith wrote: đ´ Mr. Ed đ´ wrote: Anyone still using "MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x SeaMonkey's? If you're referring to http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ , that one has been abandoned since 2012. That's before Mozilla went to Rapid Release for Firefox, and it's my understanding that the developer stopped because even then, there were too many changes to Firefox to keep up with maintenance. I would not trust it for backups of Seamonkey 2.48 or 2.53. Ultimately, making backups is merely a matter of getting the contents of %APPDATA\Mozilla\Seamonkey copied to another location. Smith True, but it was working up to 2.48. I used it to copy when installing SM on a laptop. A friend asked because he wanted to do the same and I wasn't sure if it worked after that since I've been doing a backup doing the same as you suggested each night using a batch file to get all my daily work backed up. -- "This is America! You can't make a horse testify against himself!" -Mister Ed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
đ´ Mr. Ed đ´ wrote: Anyone still using "MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x SeaMonkey's? If you're referring to http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ , that one has been abandoned since 2012. That's before Mozilla went to Rapid Release for Firefox, and it's my understanding that the developer stopped because even then, there were too many changes to Firefox to keep up with maintenance. I would not trust it for backups of Seamonkey 2.48 or 2.53. Ultimately, making backups is merely a matter of getting the contents of %APPDATA\Mozilla\Seamonkey copied to another location. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey
Anyone still using "MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x SeaMonkey's? -- "This is America! You can't make a horse testify against himself!" -Mister Ed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozbackup to move SeaMonkey to new machine
Lee wrote: Is there any way to move the extensions? I have a number of converted ones and Stylish has several different user styles. It will be slow doing to have to install each one and convert the ones that need it and copy the codes for User Styles. Rather than use mozbackup, I've always just copied my C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey folder to the new machine. Although I have long been a fan of Mozbackup, it's no longer under development, and the developer's web page indicates that there's an increasing number of things in the Mozilla architecture (even before Quantum) that the last version doesn't account for. Seamonkey (and for that matter, Thunderbird) may still be close enough to the expectations that Mozbackup has, that you might be able to use it to move to a new machine, but you would need to be prepared for the possibility of problems in the profile on the new machine. It is fairly simple to copy a profile, as noted above. Re-ambiguating, the location, the location that will work on both machines is %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey, and if you copy the entirety of the Seamonkey folder, that will grab all your profiles (if you have more than one), and put them into folders with identical names. And you should do that before launching Seamonkey for the first time (and bypassing the initial start of the profile manager). This approach will get *all* your Seamonkey data, including prefs, bookmarks, mail stores, address books, server configs, and extensions. About the only thing that Mozbackup accomplishes is that that one gives you the ability for more granularity of what you back up or restore, and it saves you from having to root around in your file system, of finding the right folder(s) amid hidden folders, the specific names used in system user IDs, or environment variables. Although you're not asking the question, if you're wanting to move to Seamonkey on a Linux platform, you could copy all your data to $HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey -- it's that portable. And it's also possible to do the same thing with Mac, although I'm not fluent enough with Mac that I remember the exact location and environment variable used. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozbackup to move SeaMonkey to new machine
On 2/10/18, Desiree wrote: > Earlier I used Mozbackup to move Thunderbird 52.5.2 to my new Win 10 > machine. It worked flawlessly (unlike Mozilla's instructions which > failed). > > Just now, I used Mozbackup to move SeaMonkey 2.48 (yes, I know there is > a newer version and I will update) to Windows 10. It moved everything > EXCEPT my Extensions and also did not move Java 9 but moved Flash. > > Is there any way to move the extensions? I have a number of converted > ones and Stylish has several different user styles. It will be slow > doing to have to install each one and convert the ones that need it and > copy the codes for User Styles. Rather than use mozbackup, I've always just copied my C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey folder to the new machine. Regards, Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Mozbackup to move SeaMonkey to new machine
Earlier I used Mozbackup to move Thunderbird 52.5.2 to my new Win 10 machine. It worked flawlessly (unlike Mozilla's instructions which failed). Just now, I used Mozbackup to move SeaMonkey 2.48 (yes, I know there is a newer version and I will update) to Windows 10. It moved everything EXCEPT my Extensions and also did not move Java 9 but moved Flash. Is there any way to move the extensions? I have a number of converted ones and Stylish has several different user styles. It will be slow doing to have to install each one and convert the ones that need it and copy the codes for User Styles. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackUp Question...
On 9/07/2016 12:38 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: On 7/8/2016 at 5:36 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off: On 8/07/2016 12:18 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: On 7/7/2016 at 7:50 AM, Jim Dell's prodigious digits fired off: EE wrote: SamuelS wrote: Hello all, Having a challenge with MozBackUp - Get an error that indicates not authorized to write file to disk. I have removed it and reinstalled. Cannot figure out exactly what it is. I have tried running it as admin. Any ideas or suggestions? Since this program is no longer supported, is there another one out there which I need to look at? TIA - bo1953 Why not just back up the profile manually? I do that every time I have to update an add-on or install a new Mozilla software version. Has anybody created a batch file to do this? And the reverse one restoring? Jim rem backup SM profile copy c:\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ rem end backup -- rem restore SM profile copy X:\[desired path]\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ c:\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ /y Ed, did you do a errant copy&Paste here?? Do you really need the two instances of "X:\[desired path]\" in this Restore command?? Ignore the original code. Should be: rem backup SM profile copy c:\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ rem end backup rem restore SM profile copy X:\[desired path]\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] c:\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] /y rem end restore Thanks for catching that. NP -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackUp Question...
On 7/8/2016 at 5:36 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off: On 8/07/2016 12:18 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: On 7/7/2016 at 7:50 AM, Jim Dell's prodigious digits fired off: EE wrote: SamuelS wrote: Hello all, Having a challenge with MozBackUp - Get an error that indicates not authorized to write file to disk. I have removed it and reinstalled. Cannot figure out exactly what it is. I have tried running it as admin. Any ideas or suggestions? Since this program is no longer supported, is there another one out there which I need to look at? TIA - bo1953 Why not just back up the profile manually? I do that every time I have to update an add-on or install a new Mozilla software version. Has anybody created a batch file to do this? And the reverse one restoring? Jim rem backup SM profile copy c:\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ rem end backup -- rem restore SM profile copy X:\[desired path]\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ c:\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ /y Ed, did you do a errant copy&Paste here?? Do you really need the two instances of "X:\[desired path]\" in this Restore command?? Ignore the original code. Should be: rem backup SM profile copy c:\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ rem end backup rem restore SM profile copy X:\[desired path]\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] c:\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] /y rem end restore Thanks for catching that. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ "In love the paradox occurs that two beings become one and yet remain two." - Erich Fromm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackUp Question...
On 8/07/2016 12:18 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: On 7/7/2016 at 7:50 AM, Jim Dell's prodigious digits fired off: EE wrote: SamuelS wrote: Hello all, Having a challenge with MozBackUp - Get an error that indicates not authorized to write file to disk. I have removed it and reinstalled. Cannot figure out exactly what it is. I have tried running it as admin. Any ideas or suggestions? Since this program is no longer supported, is there another one out there which I need to look at? TIA - bo1953 Why not just back up the profile manually? I do that every time I have to update an add-on or install a new Mozilla software version. Has anybody created a batch file to do this? And the reverse one restoring? Jim rem backup SM profile copy c:\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ rem end backup -- rem restore SM profile copy X:\[desired path]\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ c:\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ /y Ed, did you do a errant copy&Paste here?? Do you really need the two instances of "X:\[desired path]\" in this Restore command?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackUp Question...
On 7/7/2016 at 7:50 AM, Jim Dell's prodigious digits fired off: EE wrote: SamuelS wrote: Hello all, Having a challenge with MozBackUp - Get an error that indicates not authorized to write file to disk. I have removed it and reinstalled. Cannot figure out exactly what it is. I have tried running it as admin. Any ideas or suggestions? Since this program is no longer supported, is there another one out there which I need to look at? TIA - bo1953 Why not just back up the profile manually? I do that every time I have to update an add-on or install a new Mozilla software version. Has anybody created a batch file to do this? And the reverse one restoring? Jim rem backup SM profile copy c:\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ rem end backup -- rem restore SM profile copy X:\[desired path]\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ c:\[username]\App\Data\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[salted string].[profile name] X:\[desired path]\ /y rem end restore --- However, if you're smart you'll have the entire drive backed up daily and can easily restore from that. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Can you buy anything specific at a general store? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackUp Question...
EE wrote: SamuelS wrote: Hello all, Having a challenge with MozBackUp - Get an error that indicates not authorized to write file to disk. I have removed it and reinstalled. Cannot figure out exactly what it is. I have tried running it as admin. Any ideas or suggestions? Since this program is no longer supported, is there another one out there which I need to look at? TIA - bo1953 Why not just back up the profile manually? I do that every time I have to update an add-on or install a new Mozilla software version. Has anybody created a batch file to do this? And the reverse one restoring? Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackUp Question...
SamuelS wrote: Hello all, Having a challenge with MozBackUp - Get an error that indicates not authorized to write file to disk. I have removed it and reinstalled. Cannot figure out exactly what it is. I have tried running it as admin. Any ideas or suggestions? Since this program is no longer supported, is there another one out there which I need to look at? TIA - bo1953 Why not just back up the profile manually? I do that every time I have to update an add-on or install a new Mozilla software version. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackUp Question...
SamuelS wrote: Having a challenge with MozBackUp - Get an error that indicates not authorized to write file to disk. I have removed it and reinstalled. Cannot figure out exactly what it is. I have tried running it as admin. Any ideas or suggestions? Since this program is no longer supported, is there another one out there which I need to look at? This one isn't really a problem with MozBackup, but something related to Windows, and permissions of where you're trying to write to. MozBackup is just the messenger. Thus, uninstall/reinstall won't accomplish anything for you. A couple of blanks for you to fill in: - Are you getting the error when you're making a backup, or recovering a backup? - If you're making a backup, where are you writing your archive to -- are you writing to your local hard disk, an external drive, or to a networked drive? If you're writing to a networked drive, local admin permissions probably won't help -- you need the correct permissions for the networked drive. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using Mozbackup 1.5.1 for Seamonkey 2.38 on a Win 10 PC
On 10/11/2015 5:41 PM, hg...@roadrunner.com wrote: > Mozbackup worked perfectly with Win 7, but now that I've upgraded to Win 10, > Mozbackup gives me an error message after I try to back up that the backup I > created is not valid. Is there an update for Mozbackup that will help it work > with Win 10 or is there a workaround? Thanks > Seems to work ok using Win10, SM 2.38 and MozBackup 1.5.2beta. Upgraded to Win10 from Win7 -- Ed, W3BNR HTTP://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Tags by Pick-a-Tag 1.60Ă1 Don't vote--it only encourages them! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using Mozbackup 1.5.1 for Seamonkey 2.38 on a Win 10 PC
hg...@roadrunner.com wrote: Mozbackup worked perfectly with Win 7, but now that I've upgraded to Win 10, Mozbackup gives me an error message after I try to back up that the backup I created is not valid. Is there an update for Mozbackup that will help it work with Win 10 or is there a workaround? Thanks What versions of SeaMonkey and MozBackup are you using?? What about your SeaMonkey required that you post using Google?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130502201647 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130403022815 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using Mozbackup 1.5.1 for Seamonkey 2.38 on a Win 10 PC
hg...@roadrunner.com wrote: Mozbackup worked perfectly with Win 7, but now that I've upgraded to Win 10, Mozbackup gives me an error message after I try to back up that the backup I created is not valid. Is there an update for Mozbackup that will help it work with Win 10 or is there a workaround? Thanks You could try right-clicking on the .exe for that program, and try "troubleshoot compatibility". ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Using Mozbackup 1.5.1 for Seamonkey 2.38 on a Win 10 PC
Mozbackup worked perfectly with Win 7, but now that I've upgraded to Win 10, Mozbackup gives me an error message after I try to back up that the backup I created is not valid. Is there an update for Mozbackup that will help it work with Win 10 or is there a workaround? Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup
NoOp wrote: On 09/03/2014 10:00 AM, W3BNR wrote: On 9/3/2014 12:13 PM NoOp submitted the following: On 08/31/2014 03:33 AM, Ed wrote: On 8/30/2014 8:56 PM Mike C submitted the following: Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week. My laptop got very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was ready to install SeaMonkey. Then I ran MozBackup and restored the profile and all of my settings and emails. They only other thing I had to do was manually install my favorite extensions. Good job MozBackup! Allen The tool hasn't been updated in 2+ years. Haven't used it for eons. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] I also swear by MozBackup! I'm using MozBackup-1.5.1-EN Get it here: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ It don't believe it needs updating. I;ve been using MozBackup 1.5.2b from the same place. (In addition to backing up all data files daily and making a complete system image monthly - Worked in data processing/large scale computers for over 35 years. Hard to explain loosing months of man-power due to not backing up data to management) With all that experience, why not just use rsync/grsync instead? Well, I guess I could say because I don't want to. Shrug... I guess that's as good as reason as any. For me it's just as easy to copy & paste the entire profile over to a backup partition/drive/device as it is to run MozBackup. Or just set up to use rsync or grsync as a scheduled service. Note that you can use both on Windows as well as linux. Besides Windows for making the system image, I use PureSync which has all the options I need and at times the sync option of PowerDesk. It all depends on the what, how, and why I'm performing the backup. I guess you could also ask why I waste any of this time when I could install an external RAID drive or two. Problem solved. No operator intervention required. No operator intervention involved either using rsync once set up as a scheduled service/task. Now I'm kind of sorry I started this thread. I don't like image backups because they tend to restore my systems to their previous state-- That is, will all the accumulated registry garbage, accidently deleted dlls, failed patches, programs that didn't uninstall completely/correctly, etc. Instead, I choose to back up critical files, data, pictures, and such to a network server and periodically to DVD. This includes the MozBackup file. I also take good care of original installation media. Sometimes a clean install can be a blessing, it runs sweet! (possibly also due to my new SSD!) To those who want to do things differently, I say you just go for it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup
On 09/03/2014 10:00 AM, W3BNR wrote: > On 9/3/2014 12:13 PM NoOp submitted the following: >> On 08/31/2014 03:33 AM, Ed wrote: >>> On 8/30/2014 8:56 PM Mike C submitted the following: >>>> Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: >>>>>> I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week. My laptop got >>>>>> very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to >>>>>> run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the >>>>>> Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks >>>>>> became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was >>>>>> ready to install SeaMonkey. Then I ran MozBackup and restored the >>>>>> profile and all of my settings and emails. They only other thing I had >>>>>> to do was manually install my favorite extensions. Good job MozBackup! >>>>>> >>>>>> Allen >>>>> >>>>> The tool hasn't been updated in 2+ years. Haven't used it for eons. >>>>> >>>>> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] >>>>> >>>> I also swear by MozBackup! >>>> I'm using MozBackup-1.5.1-EN >>>> Get it here: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ >>>> >>>> It don't believe it needs updating. >>> >>> I;ve been using MozBackup 1.5.2b from the same place. >>> (In addition to backing up all data files daily and making a complete >>> system image monthly - Worked in data processing/large scale computers >>> for over 35 years. Hard to explain loosing months of man-power due to >>> not backing up data to management) >>> >> >> With all that experience, why not just use rsync/grsync instead? >> >> > Well, I guess I could say because I don't want to. Shrug... I guess that's as good as reason as any. For me it's just as easy to copy & paste the entire profile over to a backup partition/drive/device as it is to run MozBackup. Or just set up to use rsync or grsync as a scheduled service. Note that you can use both on Windows as well as linux. > Besides Windows for making the system image, I use PureSync which has > all the options I need and at times the sync option of PowerDesk. > It all depends on the what, how, and why I'm performing the backup. > > I guess you could also ask why I waste any of this time when I could > install an external RAID drive or two. Problem solved. No operator > intervention required. No operator intervention involved either using rsync once set up as a scheduled service/task. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup
On 9/3/2014 12:13 PM NoOp submitted the following: > On 08/31/2014 03:33 AM, Ed wrote: >> On 8/30/2014 8:56 PM Mike C submitted the following: >>> Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: >>>>> I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week. My laptop got >>>>> very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to >>>>> run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the >>>>> Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks >>>>> became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was >>>>> ready to install SeaMonkey. Then I ran MozBackup and restored the >>>>> profile and all of my settings and emails. They only other thing I had >>>>> to do was manually install my favorite extensions. Good job MozBackup! >>>>> >>>>> Allen >>>> >>>> The tool hasn't been updated in 2+ years. Haven't used it for eons. >>>> >>>> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] >>>> >>> I also swear by MozBackup! >>> I'm using MozBackup-1.5.1-EN >>> Get it here: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ >>> >>> It don't believe it needs updating. >> >> I;ve been using MozBackup 1.5.2b from the same place. >> (In addition to backing up all data files daily and making a complete >> system image monthly - Worked in data processing/large scale computers >> for over 35 years. Hard to explain loosing months of man-power due to >> not backing up data to management) >> > > With all that experience, why not just use rsync/grsync instead? > > Well, I guess I could say because I don't want to. Besides Windows for making the system image, I use PureSync which has all the options I need and at times the sync option of PowerDesk. It all depends on the what, how, and why I'm performing the backup. I guess you could also ask why I waste any of this time when I could install an external RAID drive or two. Problem solved. No operator intervention required. -- Ed, W3BNR ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup
On 08/31/2014 03:33 AM, Ed wrote: > On 8/30/2014 8:56 PM Mike C submitted the following: >> Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: >>>> I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week. My laptop got >>>> very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to >>>> run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the >>>> Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks >>>> became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was >>>> ready to install SeaMonkey. Then I ran MozBackup and restored the >>>> profile and all of my settings and emails. They only other thing I had >>>> to do was manually install my favorite extensions. Good job MozBackup! >>>> >>>> Allen >>> >>> The tool hasn't been updated in 2+ years. Haven't used it for eons. >>> >>> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] >>> >> I also swear by MozBackup! >> I'm using MozBackup-1.5.1-EN >> Get it here: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ >> >> It don't believe it needs updating. > > I;ve been using MozBackup 1.5.2b from the same place. > (In addition to backing up all data files daily and making a complete > system image monthly - Worked in data processing/large scale computers > for over 35 years. Hard to explain loosing months of man-power due to > not backing up data to management) > With all that experience, why not just use rsync/grsync instead? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup
On 8/30/2014 8:56 PM Mike C submitted the following: > Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: >>> I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week. My laptop got >>> very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to >>> run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the >>> Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks >>> became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was >>> ready to install SeaMonkey. Then I ran MozBackup and restored the >>> profile and all of my settings and emails. They only other thing I had >>> to do was manually install my favorite extensions. Good job MozBackup! >>> >>> Allen >> >> The tool hasn't been updated in 2+ years. Haven't used it for eons. >> >> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] >> > I also swear by MozBackup! > I'm using MozBackup-1.5.1-EN > Get it here: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ > > It don't believe it needs updating. I;ve been using MozBackup 1.5.2b from the same place. (In addition to backing up all data files daily and making a complete system image monthly - Worked in data processing/large scale computers for over 35 years. Hard to explain loosing months of man-power due to not backing up data to management) -- Ed http://JonesFarm.us/ It is bad to do evil, but worse to boast of it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup
Ed Mullen wrote: Mike C pounded out : Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week. My laptop got very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was ready to install SeaMonkey. Then I ran MozBackup and restored the profile and all of my settings and emails. They only other thing I had to do was manually install my favorite extensions. Good job MozBackup! Allen The tool hasn't been updated in 2+ years. Haven't used it for eons. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] I also swear by MozBackup! I'm using MozBackup-1.5.1-EN Get it here: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ It don't believe it needs updating. Sigh. Okay. Here I go again. If the only thing you're backing up on your computer is you Moz profile using Mozbackup, let me say it now, plainly, explicitly: YOU'RE A FREAKING IDIOT. But, honestly, I don't care. It's your system. It's your life. If you don't care to investigate and learn? Hey. Just don't come asking me how to haul your ass out of trouble when it all crashes. Get a good backup program. There are free ones out there. Use an external drive. In fact, use two and sway them out every couple of weeks. Put one in the bank's safe deposit box. Sigh. I cannot go on. I've been talking about this for 20 years here. Sorry, no sympathy. If you don't have a comprehensive back up plan? You're an idiot. Well, okay, you might not be an idiot. But you are surely an ill-informed soul who needs to get real. Hi Ed, Thanks for the nice words (sigh). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup
Mike C pounded out : Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week. My laptop got very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was ready to install SeaMonkey. Then I ran MozBackup and restored the profile and all of my settings and emails. They only other thing I had to do was manually install my favorite extensions. Good job MozBackup! Allen The tool hasn't been updated in 2+ years. Haven't used it for eons. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] I also swear by MozBackup! I'm using MozBackup-1.5.1-EN Get it here: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ It don't believe it needs updating. Sigh. Okay. Here I go again. If the only thing you're backing up on your computer is you Moz profile using Mozbackup, let me say it now, plainly, explicitly: YOU'RE A FREAKING IDIOT. But, honestly, I don't care. It's your system. It's your life. If you don't care to investigate and learn? Hey. Just don't come asking me how to haul your ass out of trouble when it all crashes. Get a good backup program. There are free ones out there. Use an external drive. In fact, use two and sway them out every couple of weeks. Put one in the bank's safe deposit box. Sigh. I cannot go on. I've been talking about this for 20 years here. Sorry, no sympathy. If you don't have a comprehensive back up plan? You're an idiot. Well, okay, you might not be an idiot. But you are surely an ill-informed soul who needs to get real. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Why are a wise man and a wise guy opposites? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup
Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week. My laptop got very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was ready to install SeaMonkey. Then I ran MozBackup and restored the profile and all of my settings and emails. They only other thing I had to do was manually install my favorite extensions. Good job MozBackup! Allen The tool hasn't been updated in 2+ years. Haven't used it for eons. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] I also swear by MozBackup! I'm using MozBackup-1.5.1-EN Get it here: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ It don't believe it needs updating. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
MozBackup
I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week. My laptop got very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was ready to install SeaMonkey. Then I ran MozBackup and restored the profile and all of my settings and emails. They only other thing I had to do was manually install my favorite extensions. Good job MozBackup! Allen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
Ian Jackson wrote: I reckoned that a simple the way of persuading MozBackup Restore to give you only the profile you wanted might be to prevent it from having access to the current profile. If all you want is to be able to use a previous profile if your current one becomes corrupted you are working much too hard. Are you aware that you can have as many profiles as you have room for on the HDD? And just use the one you want? So you don't need to "restore" the older one, just use it. The only tool you ever need to save Mozilla data, "restore" lost or corrupted data, or move data to another machine, is COPY. Whether it is one file or a complete directory tree, COPY. And mail/news are not actually part of the profile, the profile points to them. By default they are located in the profile tree, but you can put them anywhere that the OS is able to access them; like a different partition, a network computer, a thumb drive,,,. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
Trane Francks wrote: On 3/2/14 12:17 PM +0900, Larry S. wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: proper backup program you can retrieve and restore anything from a whole drive, a folder (e.g. a Mozilla profile) to a single file That detail of recovery seems to be beyond that offered by the programs I've looked at (but still looking). Whole drive, yes. Sometimes an individual folder. Recovery of a single file doesn't seem to be a common feature, if included in an entire system backup. Care to share what program you use? (If you'd rather not advertise, but would consult by e-mail, I'll give you a good address to use.) Thank you for your consideration. Larry S. Larry, assuming your user agent correctly describes you're using Windows 7, there's no problem whatsoever restoring single files using the built-in Windows Backup and Restore. Restoring an entire SeaMonkey profile from a Windows 7 backup should only take a few minutes over a wired network. Fighting with MozBackup + SeaMonkey only seems to make sense, to me, with regard to moving a profile from one computer to another. My main system and laptop are both running Win 7 and the drives are partioned exactly the same, exact same folder structure. I periodically copy my SM profile over the network to the laptop to keep it up to date since most of my work is on my main system. I do this with a batch file that checks to see if SM is running on the laptop and kills the process before copying the profile. I do the same with another laptop running XP. Since the paths are different on XP and W7 I load prefs.js into my text editor (EditPad Pro) and run a macro that replaces the W7 path strings with XP paths. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Think honk if you're telepathic. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
Larry S. wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: proper backup program you can retrieve and restore anything from a whole drive, a folder (e.g. a Mozilla profile) to a single file That detail of recovery seems to be beyond that offered by the programs I've looked at (but still looking). Whole drive, yes. Sometimes an individual folder. Recovery of a single file doesn't seem to be a common feature, if included in an entire system backup. Care to share what program you use? (If you'd rather not advertise, but would consult by e-mail, I'll give you a good address to use.) Thank you for your consideration. Larry S. EaseUS Todo Backup Workstation http://www.todo-backup.com/business/workstation-backup.htm It is scheduled to perform daily image backups of several drives. You can choose to: - Restore the entire drive image (even to another computer) - Open the image file as a virtual drive and browse it as though it were an actual drive - Restore folders and individual files I have licensed copies on four computers here and they all back up to a single networked portable 1.5 Tb drive. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ "One of the great tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of brutal facts." - Benjamin Franklin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
On 3/2/14 12:17 PM +0900, Larry S. wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: proper backup program you can retrieve and restore anything from a whole drive, a folder (e.g. a Mozilla profile) to a single file That detail of recovery seems to be beyond that offered by the programs I've looked at (but still looking). Whole drive, yes. Sometimes an individual folder. Recovery of a single file doesn't seem to be a common feature, if included in an entire system backup. Care to share what program you use? (If you'd rather not advertise, but would consult by e-mail, I'll give you a good address to use.) Thank you for your consideration. Larry S. Larry, assuming your user agent correctly describes you're using Windows 7, there's no problem whatsoever restoring single files using the built-in Windows Backup and Restore. Restoring an entire SeaMonkey profile from a Windows 7 backup should only take a few minutes over a wired network. Fighting with MozBackup + SeaMonkey only seems to make sense, to me, with regard to moving a profile from one computer to another. -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
Larry S. wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: proper backup program you can retrieve and restore anything from a whole drive, a folder (e.g. a Mozilla profile) to a single file That detail of recovery seems to be beyond that offered by the programs I've looked at (but still looking). Whole drive, yes. Sometimes an individual folder. Recovery of a single file doesn't seem to be a common feature, if included in an entire system backup. I don't know where you're looking, but every backup program I've used since the mid-1980s has had the ability to restore a single file or any number of user-selected files. Perhaps the programs you've looked at haven't promoted that feature, or perhaps you've looked at really primitive programs; I won't speculate. But there are lots of programs that do this. I just googled "backup utility" "restore a single file" and got over 40,000 hits. Now, of course, Google always lies about its hit counts -- the actual count is 92 -- but still... -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
Ed Mullen wrote: proper backup program you can retrieve and restore anything from a whole drive, a folder (e.g. a Mozilla profile) to a single file That detail of recovery seems to be beyond that offered by the programs I've looked at (but still looking). Whole drive, yes. Sometimes an individual folder. Recovery of a single file doesn't seem to be a common feature, if included in an entire system backup. Care to share what program you use? (If you'd rather not advertise, but would consult by e-mail, I'll give you a good address to use.) Thank you for your consideration. Larry S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
Ian Jackson wrote: In message , cyberzen writes Le 26/02/2014 18:23, Ian Jackson a ĂŠcrit : With TB, it certainly does what it should do - ie replace the current profile with the backup profile. With SM, it seems to be merging the two profiles. I suggest to read carefully the documentation http://kb.mozillazine.org/MozBackup If you mean RTFM, I've already done that (albeit fairly quickly) - but I can't see any obvious indication as to why restoring a SM backup appears to merge the backup profile with the existing profile, while with TB, restoring a backup profile completely replaces the existing profile. However, I see there's reference to creating a new profile, so instead of blocking the path to the existing profile (or deleting it), another workaround would be to first create a new blank profile, and then do the restore. I've been replying to Mozbackup posts and issues for years. If you have an actual system-level backup you have no need for such a utility as Mozbackup. And you SHOULD be backing up your entire system. My system is imaged every night, the entire C:\ (boot) drive (also other drives). If you use a proper backup program you can retrieve and restore anything from a whole drive, a folder (e.g. a Mozilla profile) to a single file. Why would you /*only*/ backup a Mozilla profile??? Is there nothing about your system you deem worthy of backup other than your Mozilla profile? Like, um, your whole system? If your system crashes what good is a Mozbackup? A good backup program is worth every cent you paid for it when you need a restore. And, while I like to actually pay for the software I use, there are capable FREE backup solutions out there. I cannot believe I'm writing this YET AGAIN. Good grief. When you do have a system crash (and you will) and post here asking for help can you understand why you'll get no sympathy from me? You've taken no reasonable steps to protect yourself and now you're asking me to solve your catastrophic failure? I don't think so. I image all critical drives to a portable 1.5 Tb drive. Every month I go to the bank, put the drive in the safe deposit box, bring the second drive home and start over. If the house burns down, I no more than 30 days out of date. An inconvenience but not a catastrophe. It's a condom for computing. Safe hex. Geez. I'm sorry, if you insist on being clueless ... enjoy. I probably won't comment on this issue again for another year. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ "Sometimes I think it's a shame when I get feelin' better when I'm feelin' no pain." - Gordon Lightfoot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
In message , cyberzen writes Le 26/02/2014 18:23, Ian Jackson a ĂŠcrit : With TB, it certainly does what it should do - ie replace the current profile with the backup profile. With SM, it seems to be merging the two profiles. I suggest to read carefully the documentation http://kb.mozillazine.org/MozBackup If you mean RTFM, I've already done that (albeit fairly quickly) - but I can't see any obvious indication as to why restoring a SM backup appears to merge the backup profile with the existing profile, while with TB, restoring a backup profile completely replaces the existing profile. However, I see there's reference to creating a new profile, so instead of blocking the path to the existing profile (or deleting it), another workaround would be to first create a new blank profile, and then do the restore. -- Ian ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
Le 26/02/2014 18:23, Ian Jackson a ĂŠcrit : With TB, it certainly does what it should do - ie replace the current profile with the backup profile. With SM, it seems to be merging the two profiles. I suggest to read carefully the documentation http://kb.mozillazine.org/MozBackup -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
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Le 25/02/2014 11:24, Ian Jackson a ĂŠcrit :
After modifying the install.rdf file, I've now I've got
ImportExportTools working with SeaMonkey, so I've been playing at
importing and exporting.
One of the tests involved using MozBackup to back up a brand new virgin
SM ('as installed'), the importing a load of WLM emails. I then used
MozBackup again to back up the well-populated SM. As result, I had two
.pvc backup files for SM - one around 350kB, and the other around 800MB.
To try to get back to the virgin condition, I used Mozbackup to restore
the original profile - only to find all the imported emails were still
there. It had obviously NOT correctly restored the profile I wanted.
Further tests indicated that the restore function is additive, ie it
adds the restore profile to the current profile. I've checked that this
does NOT happen with Thunderbird, where the current profile is totally
deleted and replaced with the one you have chosen to restore.
I reckoned that a simple the way of persuading MozBackup Restore to give
you only the profile you wanted might be to prevent it from having
access to the current profile. A simple way of doing this is to sabotage
the path to the current profile by adding (say) 'STOP' to the SeaMonkey
folder name (in \Application Data). When I tried this, I indeed got the
virgin profile I wanted to restored (virgin, with no emails).
So.
Has anyone else experienced this oddity?
Mozbackup is working as if it was a simple copy of the profile content.
You could have erased the profile prior restoring.
Erasing the current profile is the ultimate way of preventing SM
accessing it (although if I did find that needed it, I suppose it could
be retrieved from the recycle bin).
I think Mozbackup is too simple but it can solve simple problems.
With TB, it certainly does what it should do - ie replace the current
profile with the backup profile. With SM, it seems to be merging the two
profiles.
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Re: MozBackup problem with SeaMonkey (2.24)?
Le 25/02/2014 11:24, Ian Jackson a ĂŠcrit :
After modifying the install.rdf file, I've now I've got
ImportExportTools working with SeaMonkey, so I've been playing at
importing and exporting.
One of the tests involved using MozBackup to back up a brand new virgin
SM ('as installed'), the importing a load of WLM emails. I then used
MozBackup again to back up the well-populated SM. As result, I had two
.pvc backup files for SM - one around 350kB, and the other around 800MB.
To try to get back to the virgin condition, I used Mozbackup to restore
the original profile - only to find all the imported emails were still
there. It had obviously NOT correctly restored the profile I wanted.
Further tests indicated that the restore function is additive, ie it
adds the restore profile to the current profile. I've checked that this
does NOT happen with Thunderbird, where the current profile is totally
deleted and replaced with the one you have chosen to restore.
I reckoned that a simple the way of persuading MozBackup Restore to give
you only the profile you wanted might be to prevent it from having
access to the current profile. A simple way of doing this is to sabotage
the path to the current profile by adding (say) 'STOP' to the SeaMonkey
folder name (in \Application Data). When I tried this, I indeed got the
virgin profile I wanted to restored (virgin, with no emails).
So.
Has anyone else experienced this oddity?
Mozbackup is working as if it was a simple copy of the profile content.
You could have erased the profile prior restoring.
I think Mozbackup is too simple but it can solve simple problems.
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Re: mozbackup and discussions of same
sean bean wrote: On 2/24/2011 6:56 AM, Joe Rotello previously wrote the following...:: RE: mozbackup Seeing that Mozbackup, in this case for Windows, is being mentioned more often in the Digest... We might be advised that Mozbackup, locations at: http://kb.mozillazine.org/MozBackup and the Download Homepage: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ I have queried Mozbackup HQ, but it really has to now support at LEAST going from the likes of Thunderbird 3.1.8 over to the same level of Thunderbird, which is it's main use, and of course at least Firefox 3.6 and SeaMonkey (if it works with SeaMonkey as it should(?)), over to as much as Firefox 4.0, for those that have to use Mozbackup, or do not have any other recourse other than Mozbackup to copy over profiles, and of course emails, to newer SeaMonkey, other machines (copy from machine to machine), etc. Reasoning being that people will HAVE to go from these soon-to-bve older Thunderbird, Firefox, SeaMonkey, Netscape versions, over to what are or will become the newest versions of especially Thunderbird, Firefox, SeaMonkey, Refreshing us by quoting from http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ ...: Current Version Mozbackup: *1.4.10* "*MozBackup* is a simple utility for creating backups of Mozilla Firefox <http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/>, Mozilla Thunderbird <http://www.mozillamessaging.com/>, Mozilla Sunbird <http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/>, Flock <http://www.flock.com>, SeaMonkey <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>, Mozilla Suite <http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/>, Spicebird <http://www.spicebird.com/>, Songbird <http://www.getsongbird.com/> and Netscape <http://browser.netscape.com/> profiles. *It allows you to backup and restore* bookmarks, mail, contacts, history, extensions, passwords, cache etc. It's an easy way to do Firefox backup, Thunderbird backup ..." Hope this "refresh" is of assistance! Any additions or correction, please direct them to the list. Joe / WindowGroup / Knoxville, TN / USA Skype: joerotello it has always rather astonished me that the built in "import" functionality has never offered to import mail from earlier installs of previous mozilla products... makes things confusing for the casual e'mail user... sean I used MoxBackup when I switched from SM1 to SM2 It worked without a problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: mozbackup and discussions of same
On 2/24/2011 6:56 AM, Joe Rotello previously wrote the following...:: RE: mozbackup Seeing that Mozbackup, in this case for Windows, is being mentioned more often in the Digest... We might be advised that Mozbackup, locations at: http://kb.mozillazine.org/MozBackup and the Download Homepage: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ I have queried Mozbackup HQ, but it really has to now support at LEAST going from the likes of Thunderbird 3.1.8 over to the same level of Thunderbird, which is it's main use, and of course at least Firefox 3.6 and SeaMonkey (if it works with SeaMonkey as it should(?)), over to as much as Firefox 4.0, for those that have to use Mozbackup, or do not have any other recourse other than Mozbackup to copy over profiles, and of course emails, to newer SeaMonkey, other machines (copy from machine to machine), etc. Reasoning being that people will HAVE to go from these soon-to-bve older Thunderbird, Firefox, SeaMonkey, Netscape versions, over to what are or will become the newest versions of especially Thunderbird, Firefox, SeaMonkey, Refreshing us by quoting from http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ ...: Current Version Mozbackup: *1.4.10* "*MozBackup* is a simple utility for creating backups of Mozilla Firefox <http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/>, Mozilla Thunderbird <http://www.mozillamessaging.com/>, Mozilla Sunbird <http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/>, Flock <http://www.flock.com>, SeaMonkey <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>, Mozilla Suite <http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/>, Spicebird <http://www.spicebird.com/>, Songbird <http://www.getsongbird.com/> and Netscape <http://browser.netscape.com/> profiles. *It allows you to backup and restore* bookmarks, mail, contacts, history, extensions, passwords, cache etc. It's an easy way to do Firefox backup, Thunderbird backup ..." Hope this "refresh" is of assistance! Any additions or correction, please direct them to the list. Joe / WindowGroup / Knoxville, TN / USA Skype: joerotello it has always rather astonished me that the built in "import" functionality has never offered to import mail from earlier installs of previous mozilla products... makes things confusing for the casual e'mail user... sean -- Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding. * Louis Brandeis, in Olmstead v. United States (1928) ** taglines brought to you by tagzilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: mozbackup and discussions of same
Joe Rotello a ĂŠcrit : RE: mozbackup Seeing that Mozbackup, in this case for Windows, is being mentioned more often in the Digest... I have a question does mozbackup can transport a profile from seamonkey 1.x to seamonkey 2.x ? I don't think it can, am I right ? -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: mozbackup and discussions of same
RE: mozbackup Seeing that Mozbackup, in this case for Windows, is being mentioned more often in the Digest... We might be advised that Mozbackup, locations at: http://kb.mozillazine.org/MozBackup and the Download Homepage: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ I have queried Mozbackup HQ, but it really has to now support at LEAST going from the likes of Thunderbird 3.1.8 over to the same level of Thunderbird, which is it's main use, and of course at least Firefox 3.6 and SeaMonkey (if it works with SeaMonkey as it should(?)), over to as much as Firefox 4.0, for those that have to use Mozbackup, or do not have any other recourse other than Mozbackup to copy over profiles, and of course emails, to newer SeaMonkey, other machines (copy from machine to machine), etc. Reasoning being that people will HAVE to go from these soon-to-bve older Thunderbird, Firefox, SeaMonkey, Netscape versions, over to what are or will become the newest versions of especially Thunderbird, Firefox, SeaMonkey, Refreshing us by quoting from http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ ...: Current Version Mozbackup: *1.4.10* "*MozBackup* is a simple utility for creating backups of Mozilla Firefox <http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/>, Mozilla Thunderbird <http://www.mozillamessaging.com/>, Mozilla Sunbird <http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/>, Flock <http://www.flock.com>, SeaMonkey <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>, Mozilla Suite <http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/>, Spicebird <http://www.spicebird.com/>, Songbird <http://www.getsongbird.com/> and Netscape <http://browser.netscape.com/> profiles. *It allows you to backup and restore* bookmarks, mail, contacts, history, extensions, passwords, cache etc. It's an easy way to do Firefox backup, Thunderbird backup ..." Hope this "refresh" is of assistance! Any additions or correction, please direct them to the list. Joe / WindowGroup / Knoxville, TN / USA Skype: joerotello ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
HOW do you RESTORE a profile with MozBackup ?
After I recovered my system without MozBackup's restore, because I couldn't figure out how to use it, I NOW want to ask how do you restore with it ? Start it up. Click Next. Choose Restore a Profile (click button). Click on (Highlight) Mozilla #.#.#.#pre Click on Next. Now what exactly (step by step) do you do ? I had three separate backup dates in the window. How do you pick one ? Highlighting a backup file causes nothing to happen DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MozBackup
On 23.07.2010 07:04, GC wrote: --- Original Message --- > I want to use Mozbackup to transfer profiles from Seamonkey on one > computer to a second computer. When I start it up, it only offers to > backup my default profile and does not see the other two. Can I get it > to back up all my profiles? > > gordoncr Start MozBackup, select "Backup a profile", then "Choose a profile" from the list, works here with four profiles. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape / Flock Champion Netscape - Firefox - Flock - Thunderbird Support UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
MozBackup
I want to use Mozbackup to transfer profiles from Seamonkey on one computer to a second computer. When I start it up, it only offers to backup my default profile and does not see the other two. Can I get it to back up all my profiles? gordoncr ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
