RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
I got the demo of it to work just fine. Was considering getting a code. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 9:53 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Nobody was referring to JAWS. I was referring to the Code Factory version of Eloquence that one can use with Window-Eyes, Narrator and other compatible Screen Readers. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:43 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a > licensed version of Microsoft Office. > > I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new > computer, it > was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting > up the computer. > > The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their > server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence > and none were fully used. > > That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Darrell Bowles > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. > Thanks, > Darrell > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On > Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws > in this > petition. > > It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing > businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as > anything but > a hostile demand. > > What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed > version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as > well as > that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed > owners of the software. > > I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another > Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. > > Kind regards, > > Amanda Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Sky Mundell > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a > way to > fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, > but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change% 2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435 %7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C ta=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0. > org%2Fp%2Fvisper
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Nobody was referring to JAWS. I was referring to the Code Factory version of Eloquence that one can use with Window-Eyes, Narrator and other compatible Screen Readers. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:43 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed > version of Microsoft Office. > > I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it > was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up > the computer. > > The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server > for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none > were fully used. > > That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Darrell Bowles > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. > Thanks, > Darrell > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On Behalf > Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this > petition. > > It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing > businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but > a hostile demand. > > What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed > version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as > that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed > owners of the software. > > I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another > Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. > > Kind regards, > > Amanda Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Sky Mundell > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to > fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it > probably won't make a difference. Here it is. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change% 2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435 %7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C ta=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0. > org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th > e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 > 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 > 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI > 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B > glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 > Then, after I did
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If yours is still working, that's great. However I have not been able to activate any of my licenses for over a year now. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed > version of Microsoft Office. > > I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it > was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up > the computer. > > The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server > for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none > were fully used. > > That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Darrell Bowles > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. > Thanks, > Darrell > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On Behalf > Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this > petition. > > It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing > businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but > a hostile demand. > > What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed > version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as > that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed > owners of the software. > > I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another > Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. > > Kind regards, > > Amanda Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Sky Mundell > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to > fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it > probably won't make a difference. Here it is. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change. > org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th > e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 > 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 > 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI > 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B > glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 > Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net > forum > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio > games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr > een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df > 9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG > Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 > 000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D > =0 > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook
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Well Darrell, If you take a listen to any text of your choosing with JAWS, and compare the same reading with Window-Eyes, you can definitely hear the difference. JAWS Eloquence barely completes the last word of any sentence, then rapidly moves right to the first word in the next with virtually no pause or letup. And no, all of the applied settings at JAW's command will not help with this apparently programmed defect. If I wish to speed up my reading on my own, I can certainly do so, but I simply don't need to have my reading done at a pace that would drive me nuts if a human reader did the same. As many varieties of readers commercial or staff that the Talking Book program uses, I have encountered none that would read in that manner. This is something I simply cannot put up with, or abide. On 3/23/2023 4:43 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed version of Microsoft Office. I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up the computer. The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none were fully used. That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0. org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed > version of Microsoft Office. > > I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it > was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up > the computer. > > The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server > for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none > were fully used. > > That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Darrell Bowles > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. > Thanks, > Darrell > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On Behalf > Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this > petition. > > It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing > businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but > a hostile demand. > > What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed > version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as > that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed > owners of the software. > > I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another > Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. > > Kind regards, > > Amanda Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Sky Mundell > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to > fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it > probably won't make a difference. Here it is. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0. > org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th > e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 > 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 > 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI > 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B > glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 > Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net > forum > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=tiecBkP2Cq827TmeWt71SyXrgdjk
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Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed version of Microsoft Office. I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up the computer. The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none were fully used. That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change. org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df 9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D =0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio games.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-on to-the-market%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e 7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300 0%7C%7C%7C=2%2Fujj2W9DTqagau%2BOnXY5q1wD71c%2Bh%2F%2B3jZm1qBD%2FEI%3D& reserved=0 On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future.
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello, Yes, I get the evaluation message, and my outlook enhanced app isn't working. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 3:42 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed version of Microsoft Office. I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up the computer. The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none were fully used. That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C7ae94aa6ed4c4c8f9f0408db2bd6bfc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151973555956210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=E5CiZ804XvHpv2lIaszcWzrJ%2BIgh%2BV8Vhds0Vq%2FW7Uk%3D=0. org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C7ae94aa6ed4c4c8f9f0408db2bd6bfc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151973555956210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=nqoRfjweo4rs1ppftwsf%2FqVj6uqpzhsWZgjqsbD2NMA%3D=0 games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df 9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D =0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C7ae94aa6ed4c4c8f9f0408db2bd6bfc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151973555956210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=nqoRfjweo4rs1ppftwsf%2FqVj6uqpzhsWZgjqsbD2NMA%3D=0 games.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-on to-the-market%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e 7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300 0%7C%7C%7C=2%2Fujj2W9DTqagau%2BOnXY5q1wD71c%2Bh%2F%2B3jZm1qBD%2FEI%3D& reserved=0 > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootu
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed version of Microsoft Office. I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up the computer. The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none were fully used. That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change. org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df 9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D =0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio games.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-on to-the-market%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e 7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300 0%7C%7C%7C=2%2Fujj2W9DTqagau%2BOnXY5q1wD71c%2Bh%2F%2B3jZm1qBD%2FEI%3D& reserved=0 > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup > that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop > working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and > if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 > update that is causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window -eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fskyt%2540shaw.ca=05%7C 01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435% 7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJ QIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=EbNC2uj4we WpYVP59kxgPiSKZTuj8SEVp5F3%2B39bHnY%3D=0. > For subscription options, visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.
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I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change.org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2BglfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audiogames.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D=0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audiogames.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=2%2Fujj2W9DTqagau%2BOnXY5q1wD71c%2Bh%2F%2B3jZm1qBD%2FEI%3D=0 > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup > that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop > working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and > if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 > update that is causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fskyt%2540shaw.ca=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=EbNC2uj4weWpYVP59kxgPiSKZTuj8SEVp5F3%2B39bHnY%3D=0. > For subscription options, visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists. > window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com=05%7C01%7C% > 7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435% > 7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C > a=BSTSFJskUtugO41n0SW5YwPzPcK4bM4edaxugaAXNlk%3D=0 > List archives can be found at > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists. > window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com=05%7C01%7C%7 > C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7 > C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMD > AiLCJQIjoiV2luM
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Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won’t make a difference. Here it is. https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/ https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/ > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup > that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop > working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and > if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 > update that is causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadise777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE Evaluation copy problem
Thanks for all your help. I saved the fix to a text file and then accidentally deleted all the emails so I cannot reply to the emails directly. -- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
By earlier experience: When this kind of behavior has shown up in the past - this it seems to do every now and then - all I have had to do is to hard-boot my computer. That is shut it all down, and start it up again. Seems waking it up from sleep mode does not work, as it will only reload memory. Even restarting it, warm-booting, seems not to do the trick. Have no clue why it pops up once in a while. Get a feeling it happens upon some update installations of Windows itself. From: Talk on behalf of Mike via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 2:06 PM To: Stephen Clower via Talk Cc: Mike Subject: Re: Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello I have tried the suggestion for a fix and it seems to have worked. Instead of adding a line under misc, I simply edited the existing line and changed it from a 1 to a 0. Best wishe Mike On 21/03/2023 21:01, Stephen Clower via Talk wrote: > Greetings, > > To work around the evaluation copy error message when WE starts up, do the > following: > > 1. From the Window-Eyes control panel, go to File -> Explore Profile Folder. > 2. Open the wineyes.ini file. > 3. Add the following line to the [misc] section: > AllowUpgradeCheckOnStartup=0 > 4. Save the file. > 5. Back in Window-Eyes, go through each running app under the Apps menu, and > set them all to no longer check for updates at startup. > 6. Restart the program. > > Once done, you should, in theory, be all set. This tip was passed along to me > from a reliable source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I hope it helps > someone. > > Best, > Steve > > >> On Mar 21, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk >> wrote: >> >> If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work. So ... >> ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of >> Window-Eyes. >> This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> On Behalf >> Of Stephen Clower via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List >> >> Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy >> >> Hi all, >> >> It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related >> pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the >> errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, >> and the like are completely busted now. >> >> Steve >> >> >>> On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk >> wrote: >>> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, >>> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup >>> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square >> office. >>> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop >>> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and >>> if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 >>> update that is causing the problem and if so which update? >>> >>> Thanks for any suggestions. >>> -- >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve- >> audio.net. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi >> se777%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai
Re: Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello I have tried the suggestion for a fix and it seems to have worked. Instead of adding a line under misc, I simply edited the existing line and changed it from a 1 to a 0. Best wishe Mike On 21/03/2023 21:01, Stephen Clower via Talk wrote: Greetings, To work around the evaluation copy error message when WE starts up, do the following: 1. From the Window-Eyes control panel, go to File -> Explore Profile Folder. 2. Open the wineyes.ini file. 3. Add the following line to the [misc] section: AllowUpgradeCheckOnStartup=0 4. Save the file. 5. Back in Window-Eyes, go through each running app under the Apps menu, and set them all to no longer check for updates at startup. 6. Restart the program. Once done, you should, in theory, be all set. This tip was passed along to me from a reliable source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I hope it helps someone. Best, Steve On Mar 21, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work. So ... ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of Window-Eyes. This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Stephen Clower via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hi all, It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, and the like are completely busted now. Steve On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is causing the problem and if so which update? Thanks for any suggestions. -- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve- audio.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kazejaed%40runbox.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Mr. Clower, wow, so good to read from you in this space! Reading your thoughts in this space brings back yesterday's memories when you and Gerry and Mike amongst others were helping me and my company with making the Moneygram app more accessible using Window-Eyes! Thank you for the great work you all did. I plan to LEAVE THIS LIST soon, but I wanted to be able to say THANK YOU to as many GW Micro employees in this space as possible that made sure I stayed SUBSTANTIALLY GAINFULLY EMPLOYED. I am internally and externally grateful to you all; no other screen reader has helped me TO BEAT THE ODDS, only Window-Eyes! I sure hope that some sweet day, it can still be resuscitated in my life time. Take care sire, God richly bless and keep you all!! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado HI, I AM ANDROID, THE THINKING PERSON'S OS!! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
There is a button that you can use to sign it -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:50 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Importance: High can't seem to find any link or button to sign the petition. Simon - Original Message - From: "Sky Mundell via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Sky Mundell" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:01 PM Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way > to fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it > probably won’t make a difference. Here it is. > https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad > Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net > forum > https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/ > > https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/ >> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk >> wrote: >> >> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on >> Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I >> have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. >> >> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working >> in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what >> is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is >> causing the problem and if so which update? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions. >> -- >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/goshawk_on_horseback%40fastmail.co.uk. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
can't seem to find any link or button to sign the petition. Simon - Original Message - From: "Sky Mundell via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Sky Mundell" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:01 PM Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won’t make a difference. Here it is. https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/ https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/ On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is causing the problem and if so which update? Thanks for any suggestions. -- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/goshawk_on_horseback%40fastmail.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won’t make a difference. Here it is. https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/ https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/ > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on > Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I > have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working > in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what > is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is > causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Greetings, To work around the evaluation copy error message when WE starts up, do the following: 1. From the Window-Eyes control panel, go to File -> Explore Profile Folder. 2. Open the wineyes.ini file. 3. Add the following line to the [misc] section: AllowUpgradeCheckOnStartup=0 4. Save the file. 5. Back in Window-Eyes, go through each running app under the Apps menu, and set them all to no longer check for updates at startup. 6. Restart the program. Once done, you should, in theory, be all set. This tip was passed along to me from a reliable source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I hope it helps someone. Best, Steve > On Mar 21, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk > wrote: > > If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work. So ... > ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of > Window-Eyes. > This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Stephen Clower via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List > > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hi all, > > It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related > pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the > errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, > and the like are completely busted now. > > Steve > > >> On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: >> >> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, >> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup >> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square > office. >> >> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop >> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and >> if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 >> update that is causing the problem and if so which update? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions. >> -- >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve- > audio.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi > se777%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work. So ... ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of Window-Eyes. This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Stephen Clower via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hi all, It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, and the like are completely busted now. Steve > On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup > that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop > working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and > if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 > update that is causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve- audio.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hi all, It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, and the like are completely busted now. Steve > On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on > Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I > have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working > in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what > is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is > causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello: Is any waI cobtain a copy of WW-EyesI’d love to have a copy. Regards, Ernest. ∫∫dow∫∫the Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:52 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on > Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I > have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working > in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what > is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is > causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/personalmail4me%40duck.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello David I'm not sure there is a solution. I am using windows 10 and 11. I am getting exactly the same issue on both machines. I am very sorry to say that I have come to the conclsion that Window-eyes is almost at the end of it's life. I hope I am wrong but I don't think so. Rod suggested that it sounds like Microsoft isn't supporting WE any more. Best wishes Mike. On 21/03/2023 16:51, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is causing the problem and if so which update? Thanks for any suggestions. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is causing the problem and if so which update? Thanks for any suggestions. -- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Browsers in Windows 10 with WE 9.54
Hi, I have been trying to use Edge instead of IE since it pops up that IE will not be supported. While trying to download a Bible app, WAVE was suggested to be used. Is WAVE better then Edge and what is the difference? Also, will WE work with Google Chrome or Google better than Edge? Thanks for any info! Be blessed! Deborah ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Edge and WE
Hi, Are there hot keys for Edge which work with WE? There seems to be a major difference between IE and Edge as for as accessibility. If anyone has good advise in switching to Edge, I would love to hear it! Be blessed! Deborah ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE & Youtube
Is anyone having any issues with Window-eyes & Youtube? I'm unable to click on the search box. WE reads the "search" text but browse mode is not turning off. Actually when I turn it off manually, I still can't type in the box. Ironically (OK it's really not irony) I can search Youtube if I use Internet Explorer, not Google Chrome. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hello Rod, Thanks so much for the list of apps. I asked because a friend of mine had much trouble using WE on her Windows 10 computer, whereas I have had no trouble using it on my Windows 8.1 computer. Thanks again. From: Rod Hutton Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:14 PM To: peter Chin Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Peter, Here is the list of files which, at one time, needed to be disabled in order for Window-Eyes to load properly: Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced On my systems, Which are running build 2004 of windows 10 home and pro, it is not necessary for me to disable any of these. However, if you are having problems on your systems, why not try disabling them? Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2020, at 12:10 AM, peter Chin wrote: Hello Rod, Could you please tell us which were the apps which were giving trouble to Wineyes? A friend of mine didn't like WinEyes because she said, it was very slugish. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:51 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Butch, Thanks so much for this juicy little tidbit. Smile. I am storing this in my list of Window eyes nuggets. Take care, Rod Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2020, at 10:26 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk > wrote: > > > I saved this stuff from long ago. From Doug. > As for command prompts, there are two suggestions. One is make sure you > press control-insert-c to auto detect the caret and, I've recommended this > before but don't believe anybody ever tried it, setup your windows 10 command > prompts to use a legacy console. Just open up a command prompt and press > alt-space for the system menu. Select properties and in > this dialog check the last checkbox "Use legacy console". Restart your > command prompt...you'll likely have to re-detect the caret after doing > this but from then on, it should work...at least mine does. > > and more > Open the start menu and go to Windows System folder, Command prompt. > Open the context menu and go to Open file location. > Open the context menu on the shortcut file, go to the Options tab, and check > Use legacy console. > this should do the trick. The new console is useless to me. > >> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Tom via Talk wrote: >> >> Hi Rod, >> >> I deleted the apps from, >> backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash >> Window-Eyes. >> >> I guess that comes from all the years I worked in DOS. Hard >> to teach an old dog new tricks! >> >> I'm disappointed that Window-Eyes won't do anything with the >> command line prompt in >> Windows ten. >> >> In my younger days I wouldn't have given up so easy in >> dealing with the problem Window-Eyes has with apps but I now >> just do what I have to do to get along! >> >> Tom >> >> ** Your Message ** >>> Hi Tom, >>> I'm not sure precisely what you mean when you say you >> deleted apps from the GW Micro folder. >>> Do you mean that you went into the folder where Window-Eyes >> is installed, that is, backslash Program Files (x86) >> backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes and deleted them >> from there? >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> >> > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Tom, The problem is that deleting them from where you did does not actually change the apps which are running in your current installation of window eyes. Those apps where you deleted them are just stock copies of the apps which Window Eyes uses to install those apps when the program is first installed. What I have seen is that there are a lot of misconceptions about what window eyes abs actually are. Those apps cannot run without window Eyes. Moreover. They are actually very dependent on set files since set files contain many settings which apps need in order to run properly. abs can really only be managed properly using the app management pole down, which is on the apps menu in the window eyes control panel. The Window Eyes manual has always been an excellent resource for learning how to manage all of the different settings of the program. It is never too late to read it. Smile. Take care, Rod Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2020, at 8:18 PM, Tom via Talk wrote: > > Hi Rod, > > I deleted the apps from, > backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash > Window-Eyes. > > I guess that comes from all the years I worked in DOS. Hard > to teach an old dog new tricks! > > I'm disappointed that Window-Eyes won't do anything with the > command line prompt in > Windows ten. > > In my younger days I wouldn't have given up so easy in > dealing with the problem Window-Eyes has with apps but I now > just do what I have to do to get along! > > Tom > > ** Your Message ** > >Hi Tom, > > > >I'm not sure precisely what you mean when you say you > deleted apps from the GW Micro folder. > >Do you mean that you went into the folder where Window-Eyes > is installed, that is, backslash Program Files (x86) > backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes and deleted them > from there? > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
I would really love to play with Window-Eyes again. Does anyone have a copy of the Window-Eyes for office version? I do not wish to ask for anyone’s keys or licenses. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk > wrote: > > > I saved this stuff from long ago. From Doug. > As for command prompts, there are two suggestions. One is make sure you > press control-insert-c to auto detect the caret and, I've recommended this > before but don't believe anybody ever tried it, setup your windows 10 command > prompts to use a legacy console. Just open up a command prompt and press > alt-space for the system menu. Select properties and in > this dialog check the last checkbox "Use legacy console". Restart your > command prompt...you'll likely have to re-detect the caret after doing > this but from then on, it should work...at least mine does. > > and more > Open the start menu and go to Windows System folder, Command prompt. > Open the context menu and go to Open file location. > Open the context menu on the shortcut file, go to the Options tab, and check > Use legacy console. > this should do the trick. The new console is useless to me. > >> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Tom via Talk wrote: >> >> Hi Rod, >> >> I deleted the apps from, >> backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash >> Window-Eyes. >> >> I guess that comes from all the years I worked in DOS. Hard >> to teach an old dog new tricks! >> >> I'm disappointed that Window-Eyes won't do anything with the >> command line prompt in >> Windows ten. >> >> In my younger days I wouldn't have given up so easy in >> dealing with the problem Window-Eyes has with apps but I now >> just do what I have to do to get along! >> >> Tom >> >> ** Your Message ** >>> Hi Tom, >>> I'm not sure precisely what you mean when you say you >> deleted apps from the GW Micro folder. >>> Do you mean that you went into the folder where Window-Eyes >> is installed, that is, backslash Program Files (x86) >> backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes and deleted them >> from there? >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fbutchb%2540shellworld.netdata=02%7C01%7C%7C34335b6b8d904f38fe9208d85467afca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637352151589319389sdata=oRAjLilZwmZrPww3MY9X46qsvOAgD7vMkyu6PI4Fyfg%3Dreserved=0. >> For subscription options, visit >> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C34335b6b8d904f38fe9208d85467afca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637352151589329394sdata=3FKUzWp60xIRuxp3JJuhC%2BWI99%2FKc9UzZbOD3SxehFQ%3Dreserved=0 >> List archives can be found at >> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C34335b6b8d904f38fe9208d85467afca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637352151589329394sdata=kmHLRe7byLp6gCRSlnOlJy0A7dkP5tQGReRMUG%2FEQeU%3Dreserved=0 >> >> >> > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fdgbowles%2540msn.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C34335b6b8d904f38fe9208d85467afca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637352151589329394sdata=0uTaVfBM%2Fkn7SjRb8yvqRL8UuWjJXw9Qr8lUIWVG%2Fhc%3Dreserved=0. > For subscription options, visit > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C34335b6b8d904f38fe9208d85467afca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637352151589329394sdata=3FKUzWp60xIRuxp3JJuhC%2BWI99%2FKc9UzZbOD3SxehFQ%3Dreserved=0 > List archives can be found at > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C34335b6b8d904f38fe9208d85467afca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637352151589329394sdata=kmHLRe7byLp6gCRSlnOlJy0A7dkP5tQGReRMUG%2FEQeU%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
I saved this stuff from long ago. From Doug. As for command prompts, there are two suggestions. One is make sure you press control-insert-c to auto detect the caret and, I've recommended this before but don't believe anybody ever tried it, setup your windows 10 command prompts to use a legacy console. Just open up a command prompt and press alt-space for the system menu. Select properties and in this dialog check the last checkbox "Use legacy console". Restart your command prompt...you'll likely have to re-detect the caret after doing this but from then on, it should work...at least mine does. and more Open the start menu and go to Windows System folder, Command prompt. Open the context menu and go to Open file location. Open the context menu on the shortcut file, go to the Options tab, and check Use legacy console. this should do the trick. The new console is useless to me. On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Tom via Talk wrote: Hi Rod, I deleted the apps from, backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes. I guess that comes from all the years I worked in DOS. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks! I'm disappointed that Window-Eyes won't do anything with the command line prompt in Windows ten. In my younger days I wouldn't have given up so easy in dealing with the problem Window-Eyes has with apps but I now just do what I have to do to get along! Tom ** Your Message ** Hi Tom, I'm not sure precisely what you mean when you say you deleted apps from the GW Micro folder. Do you mean that you went into the folder where Window-Eyes is installed, that is, backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes and deleted them from there? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
it would of been better if you deleted the apps from within window eyes because i am sure there are windows registry keys that did not get deleted from the registry doing it your way. also the command prompt does work a little bit if you use the mouse to read the visable text and if both window eyes and the command prompt are both running as a administrator. -Original Message- From: Tom via Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 5:17 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Subject: RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Rod, I deleted the apps from, backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes. I guess that comes from all the years I worked in DOS. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks! I'm disappointed that Window-Eyes won't do anything with the command line prompt in Windows ten. In my younger days I wouldn't have given up so easy in dealing with the problem Window-Eyes has with apps but I now just do what I have to do to get along! Tom ** Your Message ** Hi Tom, I'm not sure precisely what you mean when you say you deleted apps from the GW Micro folder. Do you mean that you went into the folder where Window-Eyes is installed, that is, backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes and deleted them from there? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Rod, I deleted the apps from, backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes. I guess that comes from all the years I worked in DOS. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks! I'm disappointed that Window-Eyes won't do anything with the command line prompt in Windows ten. In my younger days I wouldn't have given up so easy in dealing with the problem Window-Eyes has with apps but I now just do what I have to do to get along! Tom ** Your Message ** >Hi Tom, > >I'm not sure precisely what you mean when you say you deleted apps from the GW Micro folder. >Do you mean that you went into the folder where Window-Eyes is installed, that is, backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes and deleted them from there? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Tom, I'm not sure precisely what you mean when you say you deleted apps from the GW Micro folder. Do you mean that you went into the folder where Window-Eyes is installed, that is, backslash Program Files (x86) backslash GW Micro backslash Window-Eyes and deleted them from there? Or are you saying you deleted them from the Add/Remove apps dialog which you open from the Apps menu in the Window-Eyes control panel, under App Management ? Or are you saying you simply deleted them from the Window-Eyes profile folder? Or, finally, are you saying you disabled them from the Window-Eyes App Manager, arrive at from the Apps Menu, under App Management, in the Window-Eyes control panel.? Incidentally, the latter is the best since it is the simplest option. Thanks, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom via Talk Sent: September 7, 2020 5:06 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Subject: RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Rod, Thanks for getting me on the right track that the apps were causing the problem. Yesterday I went into the GW Micro folder and deleted a bunch of apps and eventually got Window-Eyes to at least start without immediately shutting down. I think I'll just uninstall Window-Eyes, reinstall it and then disable the ones causing the trouble as you suggested. Oh, for the days of simple set files! Tom ** Your Message ** >Hi Tom, > >I am running Window-Eyes with build 2004 on both Windows 10 Home and Pro with >no problems. >At one time, there were a number .of apps which cause errors and prevented >Window-Eyes from even starting. >You can get Window-Eyes to start without apps running by starting Window-Eyes >and then immediately holding down the Shift key and holding it down until it >starts. >In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, there is an option called >App Management. >If you then open App Management using right arrow, the first option is called >App Status. >You can then press right arrow again and then one of three options wil always >be checked, On, Off, or Manual. >Indeed, holding down the Shift key when you start Window-Eyes sets Apps to >Manual. >Normally, it will be set to On, and once you disable whatever apps you think >may be causing problems, you would set it to On. >A while back, the following apps caused me problems until I disabled them, >although they don't seem to be doing so now. >Anyway, you could disable all of these, and Window-Eyes will work fine. >Eloquence Fix >Hotspot >JAWS quick key >WEDiag >Windows Enhanced > >You would then just set your app status back to On and you should be good to >go. >You should also probably shut down and then restart Window-Eyes. > >Good luck, > >Rod ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Mike, All information is helpful, and this is a particularly helpful nugget which might help someone indeed. Thanks, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Mike via Talk Sent: September 8, 2020 3:38 AM To: peter Chin via Talk Cc: Mike Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hello Everyone I haven't been following this thread so apologies if I am off the mark. I recently installed the latest update for Windows 10. I think it was a security update. Window-eyes on my desktop then started opening and then complete silence. I tried using NVDA, Jaws and Narrator but to no avail. In the meantime my laptop was working fine with exactly the same update. I then wrote to someone on another list who I believe works for Microsoft. He advised trying "sndvol" which made absolutely no difference. After about two weeks my machines both downloaded and installed another update of some kind. Miraculously, my desktop suddenly started talking again and I haven't had any further problems. A Web search found a lot of comments about the update to Win 10 was causing problems with certain makes of sound card Etc. I have no idea if any of this is to do with your discussion but I thought the information might be helpful. Sorry for going on so long. Best wishes Mike. On 07/09/2020 15:58, peter Chin via Talk wrote: > Hello Rod, > > Could you please tell us which were the apps which were giving trouble > to Wineyes? > > A friend of mine didn't like WinEyes because she said, it was very > slugish. > -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:51 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Rod Hutton > Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 > > Hi Tom, > > At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled > or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. > On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, > this is no longer true. > Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. > A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that > they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. > No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall > being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the > old Window-Eyes server. > I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app > update server was not active. > My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping > Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need > it. > I am one of those who need it. > I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage > the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host > and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. > Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws > or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is > before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. > Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading > email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. > Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based > Office product. > The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly > to allow me to read and write in Outlook. > So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. > > Take good care, > > Rod > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" > of talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get > worse each day. To day it's useless. > > Window-Eyes 9.5.4 > > Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? > > When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try > installing it with no apps. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of > the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hello, Is there any way that anyone has a copy of the latest window-eyes for office, with if possible synthesizer add-ons? I do not have my copy and wish to see how window-eyes works. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 8:18 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Tom, I use Google Chrome as my default browser on all my systems, except my Mac, where Safari is the default. Window-Eyes works with Google Chrome as it does with the newest version of Microsoft Edge. I gave up on Firefox many months ago as it went through a lot of version changes, and it was hard to find one which was accessible. I hope this helps. Smile. Take care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: September 8, 2020 7:48 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com Subject: RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Since we are on this general subject, which web browsers work with Window-Eyes 9.5.4? It is my understanding that Firefox doesn't work with it. Does it work with the new Chromium Edge, Google Chrome, Brave, etc.? -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of peter Chin via Talk Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 9:58 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hello Rod, Could you please tell us which were the apps which were giving trouble to Wineyes? A friend of mine didn't like WinEyes because she said, it was very slugish. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:51 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C29707fb29b7c4b1c781308d853f13a98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637351642815142989sdata=88WbY3EP1hpMAA4GCmcBLY%2FKqiYaFDPMp6CyqEnAQSg%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C29707fb29b7c4b1c781308d853f13a98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637351642815142989sdata=ktsuMOP6s5s28zpr8H15z%2BHM063v2tL01EeLEOICgRI%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C29707fb29b7c4b1c781308d853f13a98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aa
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Tom, I use Google Chrome as my default browser on all my systems, except my Mac, where Safari is the default. Window-Eyes works with Google Chrome as it does with the newest version of Microsoft Edge. I gave up on Firefox many months ago as it went through a lot of version changes, and it was hard to find one which was accessible. I hope this helps. Smile. Take care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: September 8, 2020 7:48 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com Subject: RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Since we are on this general subject, which web browsers work with Window-Eyes 9.5.4? It is my understanding that Firefox doesn't work with it. Does it work with the new Chromium Edge, Google Chrome, Brave, etc.? -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of peter Chin via Talk Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 9:58 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hello Rod, Could you please tell us which were the apps which were giving trouble to Wineyes? A friend of mine didn't like WinEyes because she said, it was very slugish. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:51 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views o
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Oh yes, ain't that the truth! I don't know why they had to change it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Tom via Talk Sent: Monday, September 07, 2020 5:06 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Subject: RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Rod, Thanks for getting me on the right track that the apps were causing the problem. Yesterday I went into the GW Micro folder and deleted a bunch of apps and eventually got Window-Eyes to at least start without immediately shutting down. I think I'll just uninstall Window-Eyes, reinstall it and then disable the ones causing the trouble as you suggested. Oh, for the days of simple set files! Tom ** Your Message ** Hi Tom, I am running Window-Eyes with build 2004 on both Windows 10 Home and Pro with no problems. At one time, there were a number .of apps which cause errors and prevented Window-Eyes from even starting. You can get Window-Eyes to start without apps running by starting Window-Eyes and then immediately holding down the Shift key and holding it down until it starts. In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, there is an option called App Management. If you then open App Management using right arrow, the first option is called App Status. You can then press right arrow again and then one of three options wil always be checked, On, Off, or Manual. Indeed, holding down the Shift key when you start Window-Eyes sets Apps to Manual. Normally, it will be set to On, and once you disable whatever apps you think may be causing problems, you would set it to On. A while back, the following apps caused me problems until I disabled them, although they don't seem to be doing so now. Anyway, you could disable all of these, and Window-Eyes will work fine. Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced You would then just set your app status back to On and you should be good to go. You should also probably shut down and then restart Window-Eyes. Good luck, Rod ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/pammygirl99%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Since we are on this general subject, which web browsers work with Window-Eyes 9.5.4? It is my understanding that Firefox doesn't work with it. Does it work with the new Chromium Edge, Google Chrome, Brave, etc.? -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of peter Chin via Talk Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 9:58 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hello Rod, Could you please tell us which were the apps which were giving trouble to Wineyes? A friend of mine didn't like WinEyes because she said, it was very slugish. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:51 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Peter, Here is the list of files which, at one time, needed to be disabled in order for Window-Eyes to load properly: Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced On my systems, Which are running build 2004 of windows 10 home and pro, it is not necessary for me to disable any of these. However, if you are having problems on your systems, why not try disabling them? Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2020, at 12:10 AM, peter Chin wrote: Hello Rod, Could you please tell us which were the apps which were giving trouble to Wineyes? A friend of mine didn't like WinEyes because she said, it was very slugish. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:51 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hello Everyone I haven't been following this thread so apologies if I am off the mark. I recently installed the latest update for Windows 10. I think it was a security update. Window-eyes on my desktop then started opening and then complete silence. I tried using NVDA, Jaws and Narrator but to no avail. In the meantime my laptop was working fine with exactly the same update. I then wrote to someone on another list who I believe works for Microsoft. He advised trying "sndvol" which made absolutely no difference. After about two weeks my machines both downloaded and installed another update of some kind. Miraculously, my desktop suddenly started talking again and I haven't had any further problems. A Web search found a lot of comments about the update to Win 10 was causing problems with certain makes of sound card Etc. I have no idea if any of this is to do with your discussion but I thought the information might be helpful. Sorry for going on so long. Best wishes Mike. On 07/09/2020 15:58, peter Chin via Talk wrote: Hello Rod, Could you please tell us which were the apps which were giving trouble to Wineyes? A friend of mine didn't like WinEyes because she said, it was very slugish. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:51 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kazejaed%40runbox.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hello Rod, Could you please tell us which were the apps which were giving trouble to Wineyes? A friend of mine didn't like WinEyes because she said, it was very slugish. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:51 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Rod, Thanks for getting me on the right track that the apps were causing the problem. Yesterday I went into the GW Micro folder and deleted a bunch of apps and eventually got Window-Eyes to at least start without immediately shutting down. I think I'll just uninstall Window-Eyes, reinstall it and then disable the ones causing the trouble as you suggested. Oh, for the days of simple set files! Tom ** Your Message ** >Hi Tom, > >I am running Window-Eyes with build 2004 on both Windows 10 Home and Pro with no problems. >At one time, there were a number .of apps which cause errors and prevented Window-Eyes from even starting. >You can get Window-Eyes to start without apps running by starting Window-Eyes and then immediately holding down the Shift key and holding it down until it starts. >In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, there is an option called App Management. >If you then open App Management using right arrow, the first option is called App Status. >You can then press right arrow again and then one of three options wil always be checked, On, Off, or Manual. >Indeed, holding down the Shift key when you start Window-Eyes sets Apps to Manual. >Normally, it will be set to On, and once you disable whatever apps you think may be causing problems, you would set it to On. >A while back, the following apps caused me problems until I disabled them, although they don't seem to be doing so now. >Anyway, you could disable all of these, and Window-Eyes will work fine. >Eloquence Fix >Hotspot >JAWS quick key >WEDiag >Windows Enhanced > >You would then just set your app status back to On and you should be good to go. >You should also probably shut down and then restart Window-Eyes. > >Good luck, > >Rod ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Tom, I am running Window-Eyes with build 2004 on both Windows 10 Home and Pro with no problems. At one time, there were a number .of apps which cause errors and prevented Window-Eyes from even starting. You can get Window-Eyes to start without apps running by starting Window-Eyes and then immediately holding down the Shift key and holding it down until it starts. In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, there is an option called App Management. If you then open App Management using right arrow, the first option is called App Status. You can then press right arrow again and then one of three options wil always be checked, On, Off, or Manual. Indeed, holding down the Shift key when you start Window-Eyes sets Apps to Manual. Normally, it will be set to On, and once you disable whatever apps you think may be causing problems, you would set it to On. A while back, the following apps caused me problems until I disabled them, although they don't seem to be doing so now. Anyway, you could disable all of these, and Window-Eyes will work fine. Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced You would then just set your app status back to On and you should be good to go. You should also probably shut down and then restart Window-Eyes. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom via Talk Sent: September 4, 2020 2:57 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Rod, Are you using Windows 10 Pro? In fact, for everybody who have WE 10 working with WE 9.5.4 wonder which version of Windows you are using. I am using Windows 10 pro and could that be the difference? Window-Eyef won't even load for me in 10, it displays four or five balloons it immediately shuts down. I don't even have a chance to turn off apps. The tech who installed 9.5.4 for me was kind of baffled although he did do some kind work around but when he left the work around stopped going around, ha. Tom ** Your Message ** >Hi Tom, > >At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or >uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. >On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no >longer true. >Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. >A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they >had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. >No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very >surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes >server. >I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update >server was not active. >My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes >working for the many people throughout the world who need it. >I am one of those who need it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Don, Yes, I am running build 2004 of Windows 10 which is the current build as of this date. As for Duxbury, if you have upgraded Duxbury since the Window-Eyes Duxbury script was last updated, then my guess is that the Duxbury developers have changed their software in such a way that the Window-Eyes script cannot find the bits and pieces it needs in order to run properly. Sorry, but since I do not have Duxbury, I cannot test it nor repair the Window-Eyes script which I can sometimes do. All the best, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: September 4, 2020 12:45 PM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Rod, thanks so much for the update. I assume that you mean 20.04 when you use the term the latest version of Windows 10. I do have a question. I am running Windows 10, a recent version of 1909. Whenever I attempt to run the Window-eyes app for Duxbury, I get a script error whenever I hit Alt F3 to turn on coded view which displays the Duxbury codes within the text. If you are familiar with this app, will it work correctly in 20.04? Thanks. Don Roberts On 9/3/2020 7:51 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Tom, > > At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or > uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. > On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no > longer true. > Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. > A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they > had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. > No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very > surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes > server. > I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update > server was not active. > My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes > working for the many people throughout the world who need it. > I am one of those who need it. > I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the > connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual > machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. > Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or > NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and > so I am saved by Window-Eyes. > Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in > Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. > Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office > product. > The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to > allow me to read and write in Outlook. > So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. > > Take good care, > > Rod > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" > talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get > worse each day. To day it's useless. > > Window-Eyes 9.5.4 > > Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? > > When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try > installing it with no apps. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/donald.roberts99%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
I primarily use JAWS, but still have WE 9.5.4 installed on Windows 2004 Pro and still use it for some things.eyes.com> To: "Rod Hutton via Talk" Cc: "Donald L. Roberts" Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Rod, thanks so much for the update. I assume that you mean 20.04 when you use the term the latest version of Windows 10. I do have a question. I am running Windows 10, a recent version of 1909. Whenever I attempt to run the Window-eyes app for Duxbury, I get a script error whenever I hit Alt F3 to turn on coded view which displays the Duxbury codes within the text. If you are familiar with this app, will it work correctly in 20.04? Thanks. Don Roberts On 9/3/2020 7:51 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Tom, > > At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or > uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. > On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is > no longer true. > Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. > A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that > they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. > No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being > very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old > Window-Eyes server. > I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update > server was not active. > My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping > Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. > I am one of those who need it. > I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the > connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and > virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. > Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or > NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, > and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. > Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email > in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. > Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office > product. > The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to > allow me to read and write in Outlook. > So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. > > Take good care, > > Rod > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" > talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get > worse each day. To day it's useless. > > Window-Eyes 9.5.4 > > Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? > > When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try > installing it with no apps. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/donald.roberts99%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Rod, Are you using Windows 10 Pro? In fact, for everybody who have WE 10 working with WE 9.5.4 wonder which version of Windows you are using. I am using Windows 10 pro and could that be the difference? Window-Eyef won't even load for me in 10, it displays four or five balloons it immediately shuts down. I don't even have a chance to turn off apps. The tech who installed 9.5.4 for me was kind of baffled although he did do some kind work around but when he left the work around stopped going around, ha. Tom ** Your Message ** >Hi Tom, > >At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. >On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. >Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. >A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. >No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. >I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. >My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. >I am one of those who need it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Rod, thanks so much for the update. I assume that you mean 20.04 when you use the term the latest version of Windows 10. I do have a question. I am running Windows 10, a recent version of 1909. Whenever I attempt to run the Window-eyes app for Duxbury, I get a script error whenever I hit Alt F3 to turn on coded view which displays the Duxbury codes within the text. If you are familiar with this app, will it work correctly in 20.04? Thanks. Don Roberts On 9/3/2020 7:51 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/donald.roberts99%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Rod is so right. I have found things that window-eyes will read that others will not. Well, I don't use jaws much, so it might. When I look at a book on Amazon, there are buttons that say send a free sample, buy now, and a box that lets me select which of my kindle devices I want it sent to. nvda reads none of these choices. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Fri, 4 Sep 2020, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Rod lets thank the God of Window eyes keeping it alive very hard to kill a great program that just worked straight out the box. And i once said on a list just after We was discontinued i said that We would work for a few more win 10 versions. And its true so far. cheers Michael On 4/09/2020 12:51 pm, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
Hi Tom, At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. I am one of those who need it. I have yet to find any other screen reader which allows me to manage the connection and disconnection of attached devices between the host and virtual machines on the current version of VMWare Workstation. Indeed, this is very surprising to me, that is, that I cannot get Jaws or NVDA or Narrator to focus those device icons, but the truth is before me, and so I am saved by Window-Eyes. Also, I have yet to find a screen reader which is as perky reading email in Outlook which is part of Microsoft 365. Microsoft 365 is the new name of Office 365, the subscription-based Office product. The Office Enhance and Outlook Enhance Window-Eyes apps work perfectly to allow me to read and write in Outlook. So, Tom, I simply want to suggest that you don't give up on Window-Eyes. Take good care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows On 2020-08-31, 3:33 PM, "Talk on behalf of Tom via Talk" wrote: I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
I had been using Windows 7 professional . I didn't do an upgrade, I purchased a complete Windows 10 DVD. Tom ** Thank You For This Message ** what version of windows did you have before you upgraded? if you went from windows 7 to 10 you have to reinstall window eyes because the old video and sound drivers that window eyes installed on windows 7 are not compatible with windows 10. but the older window eyes gets the less it will work as windows 10 and new apps are developed. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
what version of windows did you have before you upgraded? if you went from windows 7 to 10 you have to reinstall window eyes because the old video and sound drivers that window eyes installed on windows 7 are not compatible with windows 10. but the older window eyes gets the less it will work as windows 10 and new apps are developed. -Original Message- From: Tom via Talk Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 12:32 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Tom Subject: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Win 10 And WE 9.5.4
I've had Windows 10 for a few days now and it seemed to get worse each day. To day it's useless. Window-Eyes 9.5.4 Could it be the APPS interfering with Windows 10? When I figure out how to remove Window-Eyes I'll try installing it with no apps. Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: we and number pad not working
I'm glad you were able to get it sorted out. On 2/13/2020 4:43 AM, net bat2 via Talk wrote: you beet me to it. grin. i finally figured out it was windows. the keys would be re mapped every time i reloaded w e 9.5 like the minus key went from left mouse click to left,right,left, and right. with just one press. just to see what would happen i redefined the key for left mouse click to another key and it changed to the tab key, not the key i told it to use. i did what you said here before i read your message. grin. one nice thing i found out is when you remove an account it asks you if you want to save your files. i said yes. and everything was transfered to the new account i made with the same name. but jaws and window eyes went back to the default settings and i had to re do all the voices and other settings again. but the number pad keys are working now in the new account and all my desktop programs are still working. i didn't have to reinstall them again. thanks to all for your help. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:22 PM To: net bat2 via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: we and number pad not working I can't imagine why it would work on one account and not the other. It works fine here on my admin account. However, the mouse left and right click keys are the slash and star keys. 5 and plus are mouse line and cursor to mouse. The only thing I can think of to try is to make the standard account your admin account, delete the original admin account, and make a new one, copying the standard, now admin, account. Then switch whichever one you want to the standard account. I would also do this with your anti-virus malware protection off. For what it's worth, I whitelist all the folders for Window-Eyes and NVDA. Hth, Tom On 2/12/2020 8:45 PM, net bat2 via Talk wrote: is there anyone left on this list? i had to reinstall windows 10. i have a admin and standard user account. the problem is with the admin account. the w e number pad functions don't work in the admin account but are ok with the standard account. like the num pad 5 does a left mouse click and the plus key does the right mous click. the keys for top and bottom of screen do nothing. i tried changeing keyboard layouts. but all of them do the same thing. i copied the default folder from the standard user account to the admin default folder with the same results. i checked in windows for the keyboard language. all is set to english and a standard pc keyboard. which i have. it is wired. not a usb keyboard. the w e functions were working before i re installed windows 10 19.9 a few weeks ago. does anyone know what i can do? thanks if there is anyone left. grin There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: we and number pad not working
Oh yeah, I forgot the most obvious thing to check. Make sure the numlock key is off. Regards, Tom On 2/13/2020 12:22 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: I can't imagine why it would work on one account and not the other. It works fine here on my admin account. However, the mouse left and right click keys are the slash and star keys. 5 and plus are mouse line and cursor to mouse. The only thing I can think of to try is to make the standard account your admin account, delete the original admin account, and make a new one, copying the standard, now admin, account. Then switch whichever one you want to the standard account. I would also do this with your anti-virus malware protection off. For what it's worth, I whitelist all the folders for Window-Eyes and NVDA. Hth, Tom On 2/12/2020 8:45 PM, net bat2 via Talk wrote: is there anyone left on this list? i had to reinstall windows 10. i have a admin and standard user account. the problem is with the admin account. the w e number pad functions don't work in the admin account but are ok with the standard account. like the num pad 5 does a left mouse click and the plus key does the right mous click. the keys for top and bottom of screen do nothing. i tried changeing keyboard layouts. but all of them do the same thing. i copied the default folder from the standard user account to the admin default folder with the same results. i checked in windows for the keyboard language. all is set to english and a standard pc keyboard. which i have. it is wired. not a usb keyboard. the w e functions were working before i re installed windows 10 19.9 a few weeks ago. does anyone know what i can do? thanks if there is anyone left. grin There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: we and number pad not working
I can't imagine why it would work on one account and not the other. It works fine here on my admin account. However, the mouse left and right click keys are the slash and star keys. 5 and plus are mouse line and cursor to mouse. The only thing I can think of to try is to make the standard account your admin account, delete the original admin account, and make a new one, copying the standard, now admin, account. Then switch whichever one you want to the standard account. I would also do this with your anti-virus malware protection off. For what it's worth, I whitelist all the folders for Window-Eyes and NVDA. Hth, Tom On 2/12/2020 8:45 PM, net bat2 via Talk wrote: is there anyone left on this list? i had to reinstall windows 10. i have a admin and standard user account. the problem is with the admin account. the w e number pad functions don't work in the admin account but are ok with the standard account. like the num pad 5 does a left mouse click and the plus key does the right mous click. the keys for top and bottom of screen do nothing. i tried changeing keyboard layouts. but all of them do the same thing. i copied the default folder from the standard user account to the admin default folder with the same results. i checked in windows for the keyboard language. all is set to english and a standard pc keyboard. which i have. it is wired. not a usb keyboard. the w e functions were working before i re installed windows 10 19.9 a few weeks ago. does anyone know what i can do? thanks if there is anyone left. grin There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: we and number pad not working
Hi numeric keypad not working, I only use Dell computers and always have a fresh install of windows 10 pro when I have a windows 7 operating system on the computer. Never, never do I do an upgrade from 7 or 8 to windows 10, all your problems come along with the upgrade! I always have the numeric keypad working just fine with Narator, NVDA, and window-eyes, and I just had a dell laptop wiped clean and anew fresh install of windows 10 pro withte newest windows 10 drivers and such done and everything works just fine. Something must be conflicting with your numeric keypad and window-eyes. Regards, Roger Adaptive Information Systems Inc. We Make Technology Accessible to the Vision Impaired and Reading Disabled Roger A. Behm President 1611 Clover Lane Janesville WI 53545-1388 Voice: 608-758-0933 Cell: 608-346-7059 Fax: 608-758-7898 Email: aist...@ameritech.net roger.behm@gmail.coms Web Pages: www.adaptiveinformation.org www.cheeseheadhosting.us -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat2 via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 7:46 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: net bat2 Subject: we and number pad not working is there anyone left on this list? i had to reinstall windows 10. i have a admin and standard user account. the problem is with the admin account. the w e number pad functions don't work in the admin account but are ok with the standard account. like the num pad 5 does a left mouse click and the plus key does the right mous click. the keys for top and bottom of screen do nothing. i tried changeing keyboard layouts. but all of them do the same thing. i copied the default folder from the standard user account to the admin default folder with the same results. i checked in windows for the keyboard language. all is set to english and a standard pc keyboard. which i have. it is wired. not a usb keyboard. the w e functions were working before i re installed windows 10 19.9 a few weeks ago. does anyone know what i can do? thanks if there is anyone left. grin There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/aistech%40amer itech.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
we and number pad not working
is there anyone left on this list? i had to reinstall windows 10. i have a admin and standard user account. the problem is with the admin account. the w e number pad functions don't work in the admin account but are ok with the standard account. like the num pad 5 does a left mouse click and the plus key does the right mous click. the keys for top and bottom of screen do nothing. i tried changeing keyboard layouts. but all of them do the same thing. i copied the default folder from the standard user account to the admin default folder with the same results. i checked in windows for the keyboard language. all is set to english and a standard pc keyboard. which i have. it is wired. not a usb keyboard. the w e functions were working before i re installed windows 10 19.9 a few weeks ago. does anyone know what i can do? thanks if there is anyone left. grin There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: New windows 10 comput running WE 9.541e
Jim, windows E will open it foryou, but if you know the drive letter of a particular drive you want to explore, I found what works even better is typing windows r to open the run dialog and then typing the drive letter followed by a colon and press enter. I should mention that I have Jaws on my windows 10 machine, so the problems I had may be different than yours. Win 10 is a bit different and takes some getting used to. I still love win eyes, but don't have the required version to work with win 10. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: New windows 10 comput running WE 9.541e
Hi Jim, I just did a quick search trying to find where I turned off cortana's web searching option, but I couldn't find it. Perhaps a Google search will give you the answer. As for desktop icons? If I remember right they were turned off by default. Open Cortana and start typing Themes. Themes and related settings should pop up. Press enter to open it. Then tab down until you get to related settings: desktop icon settings. Press enter. This puts you in a group of check boxes you can arrow up and down through. Computer is the one you want. It should appear as "This PC" on your desktop. And David is correct. Windows+E opens the tree view version of Explorer. You can also use the Windows+R (run) shortcut and enter, for example, C: to go to the route of the C drive, or, C:\FolderName to go to that folder. Hth, Tom On 1/15/2020 8:43 PM, Jim Elsner via Talk wrote: Members I recently got a new computer running windows 10. I have installed Window-eyes 9.541 on it and have it working. What I find when I go to the start menu and try to type a program to run courtona pops up wanting to search the web. Can I turn this feature off or where can I search for such items? Also having problems getting to my computer to access drives and U S B drives. Would like to create a shortcut for this. Please advise. Jim Elsner ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: New windows 10 comput running WE 9.541e
In the process of moving to Win10 myself, so have no hands-on expertise here. But in earlier versions, pressing the Win-key along with the E, you get to the "My Computer" window, and can scroll your file system by means of the Arrows and the Enter-key. Unless they have changed this, you might be helped out by that shortcut. David On 1/16/2020 2:43 AM, Jim Elsner via Talk wrote: > Members > I recently got a new computer running windows 10. I have installed > Window-eyes 9.541 on it and have it working. What I find when I go > to the start menu and try to type a program to run courtona pops up > wanting to search the web. Can I turn this feature off or where can I > search for such items? Also having problems getting to my computer to > access drives and U S B drives. > Would like to create a shortcut for this. > Please advise. > Jim Elsner > > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
New windows 10 comput running WE 9.541e
Members I recently got a new computer running windows 10. I have installed Window-eyes 9.541 on it and have it working. What I find when I go to the start menu and try to type a program to run courtona pops up wanting to search the web. Can I turn this feature off or where can I search for such items? Also having problems getting to my computer to access drives and U S B drives. Would like to create a shortcut for this. Please advise. Jim Elsner -- Jim Elsner ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question about WE and keyboards
Hi Bob, Control+Alt+W starts Window-Eyes. Control+Numpad insert+F4 closes it. You can also open the control panel with Control+Backslash and then Alt+F4. I've heard of those roll up keyboards, but I've never seen one. I'm sorry to hear about the stroke. God speed, Tom On 1/6/2020 2:35 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Been using Jaws and forgot how to start and stop Window-eyes. Can someone tell me? Had a stroke a couple years ago and can only type with one hand. Cannot use the flat keyboard on the laptop. Using external KB. When I travel, I carry laptop in back pack but have to put KB in suitcase buried between clothes to protect from getting damaged. I have heard of roll up keyboards, possibly made out of some sort of rubber. Or foldable keyboards. Anyone use one of these type of KBs? And if so, what is your opinion. Best -Bob Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com "If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be." Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra, B5-12-1925, D9-22-2015 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Question about WE and keyboards
Been using Jaws and forgot how to start and stop Window-eyes. Can someone tell me? Had a stroke a couple years ago and can only type with one hand. Cannot use the flat keyboard on the laptop. Using external KB. When I travel, I carry laptop in back pack but have to put KB in suitcase buried between clothes to protect from getting damaged. I have heard of roll up keyboards, possibly made out of some sort of rubber. Or foldable keyboards. Anyone use one of these type of KBs? And if so, what is your opinion. Best -Bob Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com "If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be." Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra, B5-12-1925, D9-22-2015 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Here Is An Archive Of WE Apps
Thanks for the link. -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 2:46 PM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: Here Is An Archive Of WE Apps For those who are interested, I have uploaded an archive of WE apps. This was drawn from the App Central, shortly before the screen reader was discontinued. Hence, I guess it holds pretty much the newest version of the apps. I even have included the very most up-to-date version of the extended Dictionary. This archive holds about 270 apps. A few apps - which were released, but which I never wanted - has been removed. Still, it should fathom quite much of the apps ever released for the screen reader. Please, as I will only keep it there for a short while, make sure to download while it still is available. After downloading, you will have a zipped archive, holding all the WEPM installers for the individaul apps. There even is a folder, holding some older version of certain apps. I kept it there, in case any of it would be of interest, though I am not sure if that really would be so. Below, you will find the links. One starts the download directly, the other require certain user interaction. https://www.dropbox.com/s/345w1unqknmlu9k/WEApps.zip?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/345w1unqknmlu9k/WEApps.zip?dl=1 -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Here Is An Archive Of WE Apps
Oh Chief NetBat, I'm hanging out here even if I don't post 900% of the time; I do try to make the 1,000th percent though! Keep the lights on, keep smiling, have a good morning. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Here Is An Archive Of WE Apps
David, thanks for these wE apps. Please note that using dl=1 brings up the direct download for DropBox. In the future sir, rather than post two different links, the dl=1 would make it a lot easier for everyone. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Here Is An Archive Of WE Apps
thanks, just to let you know someone is still on the list. grin -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 11:46 PM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: Here Is An Archive Of WE Apps For those who are interested, I have uploaded an archive of WE apps. This was drawn from the App Central, shortly before the screen reader was discontinued. Hence, I guess it holds pretty much the newest version of the apps. I even have included the very most up-to-date version of the extended Dictionary. This archive holds about 270 apps. A few apps - which were released, but which I never wanted - has been removed. Still, it should fathom quite much of the apps ever released for the screen reader. Please, as I will only keep it there for a short while, make sure to download while it still is available. After downloading, you will have a zipped archive, holding all the WEPM installers for the individaul apps. There even is a folder, holding some older version of certain apps. I kept it there, in case any of it would be of interest, though I am not sure if that really would be so. Below, you will find the links. One starts the download directly, the other require certain user interaction. https://www.dropbox.com/s/345w1unqknmlu9k/WEApps.zip?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/345w1unqknmlu9k/WEApps.zip?dl=1 -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Here Is An Archive Of WE Apps
For those who are interested, I have uploaded an archive of WE apps. This was drawn from the App Central, shortly before the screen reader was discontinued. Hence, I guess it holds pretty much the newest version of the apps. I even have included the very most up-to-date version of the extended Dictionary. This archive holds about 270 apps. A few apps - which were released, but which I never wanted - has been removed. Still, it should fathom quite much of the apps ever released for the screen reader. Please, as I will only keep it there for a short while, make sure to download while it still is available. After downloading, you will have a zipped archive, holding all the WEPM installers for the individaul apps. There even is a folder, holding some older version of certain apps. I kept it there, in case any of it would be of interest, though I am not sure if that really would be so. Below, you will find the links. One starts the download directly, the other require certain user interaction. https://www.dropbox.com/s/345w1unqknmlu9k/WEApps.zip?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/345w1unqknmlu9k/WEApps.zip?dl=1 -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE and windows 10 upgrade
Jim, I have not used it yet but if I remember correctly on the window-eyes 9.0 disc when first opening offers option of installing WE 9.5.4. Don't know if this helps but it is worth checking out. Best of luck Jim -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Jim Elsner via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 12:21 PM To: Talk Cc: Jim Elsner Subject: WE and windows 10 upgrade Members Have a friend that up graded to windows 10 and is trying to get WE 9.51 working again. He didn't uninstall we prayer to up grading. Is this a problem and if so what can be done to resolve? Thanks Jim -- Jim Elsner ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gemini43%40com cast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE and windows 10 upgrade
Hi Jim, Only the absolutely final release of Window-Eyes 9.5.4 can be installed on Windows 10, since there were two releases of this version. Hth, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Jim Elsner via Talk Sent: September 12, 2019 3:21 PM To: Talk Cc: Jim Elsner Subject: WE and windows 10 upgrade Members Have a friend that up graded to windows 10 and is trying to get WE 9.51 working again. He didn't uninstall we prayer to up grading. Is this a problem and if so what can be done to resolve? Thanks Jim -- Jim Elsner ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE and windows 10 upgrade
Members Have a friend that up graded to windows 10 and is trying to get WE 9.51 working again. He didn't uninstall we prayer to up grading. Is this a problem and if so what can be done to resolve? Thanks Jim -- Jim Elsner ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: [EXTERNAL] Need WE 9.2 installation disk or file
That's great news! I'm amazed they'd do anything of the sort for us. I hope they still will. Regards, Tom On 7/3/2019 10:18 AM, Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk wrote: Jeff, I had the same issue when upgrading to Windows 10. Itt was over a year ago, but I sent a request to Freedom Scientific support. They sent me a link to download WE 9.5.4. I don't know if they will still send the download link, but its worth a try. Good luck, David Ayers Tioga Co. ITCS E: aye...@co.tioga.ny.us P: (607) 687-8294 -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Jeff Samco via Talk Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 12:22 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Jeff Samco Subject: [EXTERNAL] Need WE 9.2 installation disk or file Hello, I have owned Window-Eyes for a couple decades both with a personal license and one for my employer. I'm about to move over to a new laptop running Windows 10. But, for the life of me I cannot locate any CDs newer than version 8.X both here at home and at my office. I have my license numbers. Do any of you have advice on how I can get Window-Eyes installed onto the new Windows 10 laptop? Thanks, Jeff ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ayersd%40co.tioga.ny.us. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: [EXTERNAL] Need WE 9.2 installation disk or file
Jeff, I had the same issue when upgrading to Windows 10. Itt was over a year ago, but I sent a request to Freedom Scientific support. They sent me a link to download WE 9.5.4. I don't know if they will still send the download link, but its worth a try. Good luck, David Ayers Tioga Co. ITCS E: aye...@co.tioga.ny.us P: (607) 687-8294 -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Jeff Samco via Talk Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 12:22 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Jeff Samco Subject: [EXTERNAL] Need WE 9.2 installation disk or file Hello, I have owned Window-Eyes for a couple decades both with a personal license and one for my employer. I'm about to move over to a new laptop running Windows 10. But, for the life of me I cannot locate any CDs newer than version 8.X both here at home and at my office. I have my license numbers. Do any of you have advice on how I can get Window-Eyes installed onto the new Windows 10 laptop? Thanks, Jeff ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ayersd%40co.tioga.ny.us. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Need WE 9.2 installation disk or file
Jeff, Unfortunately the installation disks are individualized with our Serial Number. And installations are still registered at whatever FS is called these days. So you're out of luck unless you can find the disk or if it's still possible to use Window-Eyes for Office. Good luck, Tom On 7/3/2019 12:21 AM, Jeff Samco via Talk wrote: Hello, I have owned Window-Eyes for a couple decades both with a personal license and one for my employer. I'm about to move over to a new laptop running Windows 10. But, for the life of me I cannot locate any CDs newer than version 8.X both here at home and at my office. I have my license numbers. Do any of you have advice on how I can get Window-Eyes installed onto the new Windows 10 laptop? Thanks, Jeff ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Need WE 9.2 installation disk or file
Hello, I have owned Window-Eyes for a couple decades both with a personal license and one for my employer. I'm about to move over to a new laptop running Windows 10. But, for the life of me I cannot locate any CDs newer than version 8.X both here at home and at my office. I have my license numbers. Do any of you have advice on how I can get Window-Eyes installed onto the new Windows 10 laptop? Thanks, Jeff ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Problem with WE.
For the record , yes you can download it and it did take care of the problem, so thanks for the suggestion. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 1:56 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Bryan Peterson Subject: RE: Problem with WE. Just my luck LOL. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 12:46 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Problem with WE. i don't know if you can download it. but you need the emergency removal tool that normally comes with the full installation cd. and i don't know if this will remove the trial version. -Original Message- From: Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:08 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Bryan Peterson Subject: Problem with WE. Hi, I’m writing because I have a problem with WE and I’m hoping someone can help me fix it. I’ve had my current laptop for a year and more, and at the time I set it up I got a free trial of an Office 365 subscription, so I installed the Office version of WE. Unfortunately at the time the trial ended I couldn’t afford to actually purchase a subscription, so I uninstalled WE. The trouble I’ve run into now is that apparently that copy somehow didn’t get completely removed. Well now that I’ve paid off some expenses I’ve recently gotten an Office subscription and would like to go back to the Office version of WE, at least as long as I can continue to use it before it becomes unusable. Well when I try to run the installer, it asks me to remove my current installation, then when I say yes I get an unhandled exception error. So I’m wondering what if anything I can do to fix this problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Problem with WE.
Just my luck LOL. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 12:46 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Problem with WE. i don't know if you can download it. but you need the emergency removal tool that normally comes with the full installation cd. and i don't know if this will remove the trial version. -Original Message- From: Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:08 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Bryan Peterson Subject: Problem with WE. Hi, I’m writing because I have a problem with WE and I’m hoping someone can help me fix it. I’ve had my current laptop for a year and more, and at the time I set it up I got a free trial of an Office 365 subscription, so I installed the Office version of WE. Unfortunately at the time the trial ended I couldn’t afford to actually purchase a subscription, so I uninstalled WE. The trouble I’ve run into now is that apparently that copy somehow didn’t get completely removed. Well now that I’ve paid off some expenses I’ve recently gotten an Office subscription and would like to go back to the Office version of WE, at least as long as I can continue to use it before it becomes unusable. Well when I try to run the installer, it asks me to remove my current installation, then when I say yes I get an unhandled exception error. So I’m wondering what if anything I can do to fix this problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Problem with WE.
Hi, I’m writing because I have a problem with WE and I’m hoping someone can help me fix it. I’ve had my current laptop for a year and more, and at the time I set it up I got a free trial of an Office 365 subscription, so I installed the Office version of WE. Unfortunately at the time the trial ended I couldn’t afford to actually purchase a subscription, so I uninstalled WE. The trouble I’ve run into now is that apparently that copy somehow didn’t get completely removed. Well now that I’ve paid off some expenses I’ve recently gotten an Office subscription and would like to go back to the Office version of WE, at least as long as I can continue to use it before it becomes unusable. Well when I try to run the installer, it asks me to remove my current installation, then when I say yes I get an unhandled exception error. So I’m wondering what if anything I can do to fix this problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem With WE & Thunderbird
There could be a parent window not maximized before you do the child window. Curtis Delzer H.S. WB6HEF San Bernardino, CA _ SENT! From Curt’s iPhone! On Nov 28, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote: Another keystroke to maximize is Windows up arrow. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:11 AM To: Michael via Talk Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Problem With WE & Thunderbird Of course, after I pressed alt-space, I arrowed down to maximize, and it said maximize disabled. But I hit enter anyway, we'll see. > On 11/28/2018 4:46 AM, Michael via Talk wrote: > make sure the window is maxamized. > >> On 28/11/18 8:41 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >> Thanks, so what am I doing wrong? I can't read the e-mail I am >> composing, at least not when I use arrow keys. >> >>> On 11/28/2018 4:36 AM, Michael via Talk wrote: >>> not a problem. >>> >>> cheers Micael.I WAS ABLE TO TYPE AND EMAIL IN THUNDER BIRD WITH We >>> >>>> On 28/11/18 7:36 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>> But I am still having difficulty reading my e-mail while composing it. >>>> >>>>> On 11/28/2018 3:34 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>>> Just as an adendum, I restarted my computer, and that has helped >>>>> with many of my issues. >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/28/2018 3:24 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>>>> Hello: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't want to clutter this list (too much), so if someone who >>>>>> is knowledgeable about Thunderbird, can e-mail me off list, I >>>>>> would appreciate that. I just gave permission for Thunderbird to >>>>>> give me updates. As a result, WE is less compatible. >>>>>> >>>>>> And as I write this, I can't use the arrow keys to check what I >>>>>> wrote. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Problem With WE & Thunderbird
Another keystroke to maximize is Windows up arrow. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:11 AM To: Michael via Talk Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Problem With WE & Thunderbird Of course, after I pressed alt-space, I arrowed down to maximize, and it said maximize disabled. But I hit enter anyway, we'll see. On 11/28/2018 4:46 AM, Michael via Talk wrote: > make sure the window is maxamized. > > On 28/11/18 8:41 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >> Thanks, so what am I doing wrong? I can't read the e-mail I am >> composing, at least not when I use arrow keys. >> >> On 11/28/2018 4:36 AM, Michael via Talk wrote: >>> not a problem. >>> >>> cheers Micael.I WAS ABLE TO TYPE AND EMAIL IN THUNDER BIRD WITH We >>> >>> On 28/11/18 7:36 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>> But I am still having difficulty reading my e-mail while composing it. >>>> >>>> On 11/28/2018 3:34 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>>> Just as an adendum, I restarted my computer, and that has helped >>>>> with many of my issues. >>>>> >>>>> On 11/28/2018 3:24 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>>>> Hello: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't want to clutter this list (too much), so if someone who >>>>>> is knowledgeable about Thunderbird, can e-mail me off list, I >>>>>> would appreciate that. I just gave permission for Thunderbird to >>>>>> give me updates. As a result, WE is less compatible. >>>>>> >>>>>> And as I write this, I can't use the arrow keys to check what I >>>>>> wrote. >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>>>>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>>>> >>>>>> For membership options, visit >>>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For subscription options, visit >>>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>>> List archives can be found at >>>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>>>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>>> >>>>> For membership options, visit >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For subscription options, visit >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>> List archives can be found at >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are sole
Re: Problem With WE & Thunderbird
Of course, after I pressed alt-space, I arrowed down to maximize, and it said maximize disabled. But I hit enter anyway, we'll see. On 11/28/2018 4:46 AM, Michael via Talk wrote: > make sure the window is maxamized. > > On 28/11/18 8:41 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >> Thanks, so what am I doing wrong? I can't read the e-mail I am >> composing, at least not when I use arrow keys. >> >> On 11/28/2018 4:36 AM, Michael via Talk wrote: >>> not a problem. >>> >>> cheers Micael.I WAS ABLE TO TYPE AND EMAIL IN THUNDER BIRD WITH We >>> >>> On 28/11/18 7:36 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>> But I am still having difficulty reading my e-mail while composing it. >>>> >>>> On 11/28/2018 3:34 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>>> Just as an adendum, I restarted my computer, and that has helped with >>>>> many of my issues. >>>>> >>>>> On 11/28/2018 3:24 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>>>> Hello: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't want to clutter this list (too much), so if someone who is >>>>>> knowledgeable about Thunderbird, can e-mail me off list, I would >>>>>> appreciate that. I just gave permission for Thunderbird to give me >>>>>> updates. As a result, WE is less compatible. >>>>>> >>>>>> And as I write this, I can't use the arrow keys to check what I >>>>>> wrote. >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>>>>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>>>> >>>>>> For membership options, visit >>>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For subscription options, visit >>>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>>> List archives can be found at >>>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>>> >>>>> For membership options, visit >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For subscription options, visit >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>> List archives can be found at >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem With WE & Thunderbird
make sure the window is maxamized. On 28/11/18 8:41 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Thanks, so what am I doing wrong? I can't read the e-mail I am composing, at least not when I use arrow keys. On 11/28/2018 4:36 AM, Michael via Talk wrote: not a problem. cheers Micael.I WAS ABLE TO TYPE AND EMAIL IN THUNDER BIRD WITH We On 28/11/18 7:36 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: But I am still having difficulty reading my e-mail while composing it. On 11/28/2018 3:34 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Just as an adendum, I restarted my computer, and that has helped with many of my issues. On 11/28/2018 3:24 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Hello: I don't want to clutter this list (too much), so if someone who is knowledgeable about Thunderbird, can e-mail me off list, I would appreciate that. I just gave permission for Thunderbird to give me updates. As a result, WE is less compatible. And as I write this, I can't use the arrow keys to check what I wrote. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- sent from mizilla thunderbird ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem With WE & Thunderbird
not a problem. cheers Micael.I WAS ABLE TO TYPE AND EMAIL IN THUNDER BIRD WITH We On 28/11/18 7:36 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: But I am still having difficulty reading my e-mail while composing it. On 11/28/2018 3:34 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Just as an adendum, I restarted my computer, and that has helped with many of my issues. On 11/28/2018 3:24 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Hello: I don't want to clutter this list (too much), so if someone who is knowledgeable about Thunderbird, can e-mail me off list, I would appreciate that. I just gave permission for Thunderbird to give me updates. As a result, WE is less compatible. And as I write this, I can't use the arrow keys to check what I wrote. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- sent from mizilla thunderbird ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem With WE & Thunderbird
But I am still having difficulty reading my e-mail while composing it. On 11/28/2018 3:34 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: > Just as an adendum, I restarted my computer, and that has helped with > many of my issues. > > On 11/28/2018 3:24 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >> Hello: >> >> I don't want to clutter this list (too much), so if someone who is >> knowledgeable about Thunderbird, can e-mail me off list, I would >> appreciate that. I just gave permission for Thunderbird to give me >> updates. As a result, WE is less compatible. >> >> And as I write this, I can't use the arrow keys to check what I wrote. >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> . >> > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem With WE & Thunderbird
Just as an adendum, I restarted my computer, and that has helped with many of my issues. On 11/28/2018 3:24 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: > Hello: > > I don't want to clutter this list (too much), so if someone who is > knowledgeable about Thunderbird, can e-mail me off list, I would > appreciate that. I just gave permission for Thunderbird to give me > updates. As a result, WE is less compatible. > > And as I write this, I can't use the arrow keys to check what I wrote. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Problem With WE & Thunderbird
Hello: I don't want to clutter this list (too much), so if someone who is knowledgeable about Thunderbird, can e-mail me off list, I would appreciate that. I just gave permission for Thunderbird to give me updates. As a result, WE is less compatible. And as I write this, I can't use the arrow keys to check what I wrote. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Continuing Problems with WE and N1MM
I need to go back and do some more experiments. I think I am seeing this issue in my Windows 10 N1MM Plus setup also. This program does not maximize its windows; it's expected that you will want to have several windows open. If you get to this before I do, I would investigate the dimensions and top-left-corner location of the entry window, as shown in the N1MM.ini file. Was your sighted friend able to see the DUPE! alert messages, heading to the station being worked, current score, etc. but Window-Eyes was not seeing them? We may want to see what NVDA and JAWS report under these conditions. In the case of JAWS, reading inside a window with the JAWS cursor, the insert-R command sets 6 different-size window restrictions within which the JAWS cursor can read. If you use JAWS with N1MM+, it says "l" whenever you start a new QSO. This is not actually a lower-case print l, but a Wingdings font character of some kind that pops up. Fortunately Window-Eyes doesn't notice that character. NVDA says a few useless words as you navigate among fields. So it would be good to see if we can fix N1MM+ with Window-Eyes or do a little frame management or scripting with JAWS. 73, Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: rgarrett5--- via Talk Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 1:38 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: rgarre...@comcast.net Subject: Continuing Problems with WE and N1MM Greetings, Today, I had sighted assistance with N1MM, my ham radio contesting program. I was able to close the windows I had open but still, I'm only able to read about two lines by using the num pad. In windows 7, everything was visible, including the "dupe" in red that means that I made a duplicate contact with this station. That is what I need the most and it just won't read. WE is saying the window is normal. I am not able to maximize it and read the other data. Any suggestions would be appreciated and yes, I know this is a very specific problem with a limited use program but, it worked in windows 7. It would seem it should work in windows 10. Bob Garrett ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Continuing Problems with WE and N1MM
Greetings, Today, I had sighted assistance with N1MM, my ham radio contesting program. I was able to close the windows I had open but still, I'm only able to read about two lines by using the num pad. In windows 7, everything was visible, including the "dupe" in red that means that I made a duplicate contact with this station. That is what I need the most and it just won't read. WE is saying the window is normal. I am not able to maximize it and read the other data. Any suggestions would be appreciated and yes, I know this is a very specific problem with a limited use program but, it worked in windows 7. It would seem it should work in windows 10. Bob Garrett ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
fixed link for WE apps file
Hi, Here is a link to the last file I created with all of the latest apps, as far as I know. I changed the zero to a one so it should download easier. www.dropbox.com/s/9vj11fovzaiwjlk/weAppsfinal.zip?dl=1 Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE on other platforms. Was: Re: Why Narrator will be better as a Screen Reader
David, I would sum it up this way. The very nature of a screen reader inexorably ties it to the operating system it was written to work on. And that in and of itself precludes it from being ported to any other operating system. Regards, Tom On 8/30/2018 4:16 AM, David wrote: There you are, Tom. Would you agree, if we try to cook it down to something even non-tech people will understand, we might basically explain it all like this? When we see a program well-known to Windows users, all the sudden pop up as an app on IOS or Android - it is NOT because the program itself was ported over. Very basically spoken, the ideas or features of the program, even to some extent the layout, will have been transferred. Yet, the very code behind it all, will likely to a very high extent have been rewritten. Let's try this with an example. Again, let's go to the traffic. When you see a family car rolling down the street, will you then exclaim: Hey, look, a mini truck! Well, in essense, the car has a number of features resembling and quite compatible with those of a truck or bus. They all have four wheels (at least). All have a steering wheel, and they all have windows all around. Still, you please talk to the ingeneers who designed the family car, and ask them if they simply just could down-scale a truck, and let it out the doors. Think of the fact, that your car has breaks that operate on hydraulic system, whereas the truck has air-operated breaks (what is known as pneumatic breaks). The truck definitely is running on a diesel engine, likely your car is on gasolin or even all electric. The truck even might have numerous wheels, tell me if you are the owner of a family car with anything more than four. Obviously, both vihicles have been designed for transportation, with some basics in common. And the designers might likely have used the knowledge from one production, in their work on the other. They might even have a certain similarity, for instance if your family car actually would happen to be a pickup truck. Nonetheless, they are such different constructions that they likely are being produced on separate sites, and your local repair shop might only do work on one of them. You even will have to get a totally different drivers license for each. If you Olusegun are dreaming of seeing a screen reader on Android, which will resemble some - or most - of the features of Window-Eyes, your dreams might be valid enough. If, on the other hand, you think someone could simply just take the code of Window-Eyes and process it through some kind of converter; well, just to break your day, don't even waste your time... :) Even on the Windows platform itself, we find several programming languages. Some three decades ago, I started doing small tasks under one of them, named Basic. Later on I moved on to Turbo Pascal, and when Windows started to become the road of the day, I ran into AutoHotkey. Then came the scripting capability of Window-Eyes, and here the VBScript language became much the standard of most apps. I did look shortly into JScript, and have peeked at some of the codes in Python, and even Pearle. No, i don't expect most readers to recognize much of the names, just want to show you some of the variety - and that is all Windows programming. What I want to stress to you all: Believe me, you won't be able to take code from one of these languages, and simply copy it into the other. There does exist NO converters, whatever your dreams might look like, that would let the one program be ported over to another of these languages. And even for a driven programmer, going from one language over to the other, might be quite confusing. Should I please get two seconds of your day, in showing you one simple example? In one language, the calculations performed inside the code, will always be interpretted from left to right. an expression like: 2 plus 3, multiplied with 4 (2+3*4), would result in the computer taking 2, adding on 3, getting 5; and then multiplying it all with 4, resulting in a grand total of 20. Now, bring that simple expression: 2+3*4 into the other programming language, and your surprise and frustration will be complete. Here the interpretation takes place from right to left. 4 will be multiplied with 3, giving us 12; and 2 will be added, resulting in a grand total of 14. Imagine a code of thousands of lines, where each line will be at best wrongly interpretted - if even recognized at all, and see if your code will run anything like expected. For your information, the free NVDA screen reader is based on Python version 2. The newest Python is in the third generation, but is not fully backward compatible, resulting in NVDA still being transcribed into modern versions of the programming language. And all of this confusion is on one and same platform, Windows. Meaning, it all takes place, based on much the same CPU, and underlaying instructions. Now move to Android, you
Re: WE on other platforms. Was: Re: Why Narrator will be better as a Screen Reader
There you are, Tom. Would you agree, if we try to cook it down to something even non-tech people will understand, we might basically explain it all like this? When we see a program well-known to Windows users, all the sudden pop up as an app on IOS or Android - it is NOT because the program itself was ported over. Very basically spoken, the ideas or features of the program, even to some extent the layout, will have been transferred. Yet, the very code behind it all, will likely to a very high extent have been rewritten. Let's try this with an example. Again, let's go to the traffic. When you see a family car rolling down the street, will you then exclaim: Hey, look, a mini truck! Well, in essense, the car has a number of features resembling and quite compatible with those of a truck or bus. They all have four wheels (at least). All have a steering wheel, and they all have windows all around. Still, you please talk to the ingeneers who designed the family car, and ask them if they simply just could down-scale a truck, and let it out the doors. Think of the fact, that your car has breaks that operate on hydraulic system, whereas the truck has air-operated breaks (what is known as pneumatic breaks). The truck definitely is running on a diesel engine, likely your car is on gasolin or even all electric. The truck even might have numerous wheels, tell me if you are the owner of a family car with anything more than four. Obviously, both vihicles have been designed for transportation, with some basics in common. And the designers might likely have used the knowledge from one production, in their work on the other. They might even have a certain similarity, for instance if your family car actually would happen to be a pickup truck. Nonetheless, they are such different constructions that they likely are being produced on separate sites, and your local repair shop might only do work on one of them. You even will have to get a totally different drivers license for each. If you Olusegun are dreaming of seeing a screen reader on Android, which will resemble some - or most - of the features of Window-Eyes, your dreams might be valid enough. If, on the other hand, you think someone could simply just take the code of Window-Eyes and process it through some kind of converter; well, just to break your day, don't even waste your time... :) Even on the Windows platform itself, we find several programming languages. Some three decades ago, I started doing small tasks under one of them, named Basic. Later on I moved on to Turbo Pascal, and when Windows started to become the road of the day, I ran into AutoHotkey. Then came the scripting capability of Window-Eyes, and here the VBScript language became much the standard of most apps. I did look shortly into JScript, and have peeked at some of the codes in Python, and even Pearle. No, i don't expect most readers to recognize much of the names, just want to show you some of the variety - and that is all Windows programming. What I want to stress to you all: Believe me, you won't be able to take code from one of these languages, and simply copy it into the other. There does exist NO converters, whatever your dreams might look like, that would let the one program be ported over to another of these languages. And even for a driven programmer, going from one language over to the other, might be quite confusing. Should I please get two seconds of your day, in showing you one simple example? In one language, the calculations performed inside the code, will always be interpretted from left to right. an expression like: 2 plus 3, multiplied with 4 (2+3*4), would result in the computer taking 2, adding on 3, getting 5; and then multiplying it all with 4, resulting in a grand total of 20. Now, bring that simple expression: 2+3*4 into the other programming language, and your surprise and frustration will be complete. Here the interpretation takes place from right to left. 4 will be multiplied with 3, giving us 12; and 2 will be added, resulting in a grand total of 14. Imagine a code of thousands of lines, where each line will be at best wrongly interpretted - if even recognized at all, and see if your code will run anything like expected. For your information, the free NVDA screen reader is based on Python version 2. The newest Python is in the third generation, but is not fully backward compatible, resulting in NVDA still being transcribed into modern versions of the programming language. And all of this confusion is on one and same platform, Windows. Meaning, it all takes place, based on much the same CPU, and underlaying instructions. Now move to Android, you will have a totally different CPU, with its very own set of instructions. Or, take it to IOS, and see what Apple will want to comprehend of your code. Oh, let's just illustrate once again. The sailor meets with the pilot
Re: WE on other platforms. Was: Re: Why Narrator will be better as a Screen Reader
Olusegun, Just for the record, Office was not ported to Android. Generally speaking, programs can be ported between Windows, MacOS, and Linux, or, Universal Windows Platform, iOS, and Android. These are essentially two different classes of platforms: desktop and mobile. The core difference is that they use different CPUs. So Office was rewritten for mobile platforms. This then requires compilation to a machine independent intermediate code layer. That intermediate code must then be separately compiled to each platform or use an interpreter, the latter of which compiles the code on the fly. The bottom line is that programs that have been around since the dawn of Windows have hundreds of thousands of lines of code exclusive to core components of the operating system. There is no automation that can rewrite the meaning of life for these programs. Relatively speaking, designing programs for portability is a new-age approach brought on mostly by the mobile evolution. And still, this is no magic wand. This is why most of the biggest accessibility apps have been developed for iOS and Android users then have to wait a year or two before they're ported over to that platform. Regards, Tom On 8/29/2018 6:27 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote: David, I enjoyed reading your post; it did present some interesting angles regarding my thought process. I believe that the impossible is that which has not been tried. We could all wake up tomorrow and hear an important announcement: Jaws for Android is here! Shall we throw up our arms in the air in disgust? I doubt that. If nothing else, many of us will play ball with it and see where its chips land. After all, in Android Land, you can have as many screen readers as you choose--Talkback, ShinePlus can be used in any Android toy; VoiceAssistant and VoiceViews are still partial to their creators, Samsung and Amazon in that order. I've never been a programmer; yet, I've seen Windows apps being ported over to Android. A good example is Outlook, another is Word and, yes, Excel is available on the Android platform. I may be odd, but I do love and appreciate being able to use touchscreen toys! I am, as of the present moment, equally productive on my Shiny Android toys as I am using a keyboard with a computer. I taught myself all that I do and I ask questions of more knowledgeable folks when I am stuck. No, I'm not a guru and do not frankly wish to be one--nonetheless, if it weren't for the legacy Windows app that are work related, I shall have divorced Windows and keep on running with ONLY Android TOYS in my pocket! I do a lot of travel, I see touchscreen terminals lined up forever at airports. Sadly, they are not accessible. To get around that for the time being, I bring all I need with me for my trips. Example, I check in and print my own burden pass all the time before heading out to the airport. I'm STINGY ENOUGH not to CHECK BAGS, so there's never an argument there. In fact, I don't even go to the airline counter, I head straight to the T S A security line. Oh, I have also CLEARED T S A security checks so i don't need to remove my underwear, belts or shoes to pass through the screening process. Guess I'm crazy lucky and I realise that not everyone is similarly situated. The clearance I have is NOT FREE, cost $100 for five years, I renew it again in 2023 if I'm still breathing and a bit less troublesome, There are a heck of a lot of things I can do with my touchscreen phone which a computer or any currently available access technology DO NOT make possible. For instance, if I don't wish to print my burden pass and carry a piece of paper in my pocket, I can simply show it on my touchscreen Shiny Android toy to a screener at the security gate, or at an airline check-in counter. I'm one person who prefers 99% of everything electronically 'cause the prospects of a misplacement is sharply reduced for me. Heck, for international travels, I can CLEAR THE U.S. CUSTOMS electronically on my touchscreen Shiny Android toy even before I board my flight back home. No computer or access technology will help me do that, but my Shiny Android toys do and they fit snugly in my chest pocket. Thus, I can keep hope alive; it may or may not happen. Notwithstanding, I sure hope that someone much more brilliant than I figures out a way to resurrect Window-Eyes as a screen reader on the Android platform! In some shape or form, we've been here before: Window-Eyes was dying, some of us shouted it out from the treetops and were sent to the gas chambers so we could be forgotten and never heard from. Fortunately, the doors of the gas chambers DIDN'T CLOSE before we were vindicated. Should the hope I nurse become a reality, this beggar who wishes for what is classified as impossible surely wants to ride into town with happiness pushing a Window-Eyes for Android cart! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado
RE: WE on other platforms. Was: Re: Why Narrator will be better as a Screen Reader
At 06:27 PM 8/29/2018, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, wrote: >I believe that the impossible is that which has not been tried. We could >all wake up tomorrow and hear an important announcement: Jaws for Android >is here! Shall we throw up our arms in the air in disgust? I doubt that. >If nothing else, many of us will play ball with it and see where its chips >land. After all, in Android Land, you can have as many screen readers as >you choose--Talkback, ShinePlus can be used in any Android toy; >VoiceAssistant and VoiceViews are still partial to their creators, Samsung >and Amazon in that order. I've never been a programmer; yet, I've seen >Windows apps being ported over to Android. A good example is Outlook, >another is Word and, yes, Excel is available on the Android platform. The examples you gave share an important commonality: they're all Windows applications ported over to Android for user convenience. The Android versions of these apps are free for a reason. Google can afford to work on Talkback because it's built into every Android phone. But a competing screen reader would have to charge hefty prices to stay in business with Android. >I may be odd, but I do love and appreciate being able to use touchscreen >toys! I am, as of the present moment, equally productive on my Shiny >Android toys as I am using a keyboard with a computer. I taught myself all >that I do and I ask questions of more knowledgeable folks when I am stuck. >No, I'm not a guru and do not frankly wish to be one--nonetheless, if it >weren't for the legacy Windows app that are work related, I shall have >divorced Windows and keep on running with ONLY Android TOYS in my pocket! Really? Can you select Pages of text inn blocks to be moved around? Can you use regular expressions to replace characters in hundreds of thousands of files at a time? I do that with Notepad Plus Plus, even though I love my Galaxy S9+. >Thus, I can keep hope alive; it may or may not happen. Notwithstanding, I >sure hope that someone much more brilliant than I figures out a way to >resurrect Window-Eyes as a screen reader on the Android platform! In some >shape or form, we've been here before: Window-Eyes was dying, some of us >shouted it out from the treetops and were sent to the gas chambers so we >could be forgotten and never heard from. Fortunately, the doors of the gas >chambers DIDN'T CLOSE before we were vindicated. Should the hope I nurse >become a reality, this beggar who wishes for what is classified as >impossible surely wants to ride into town with happiness pushing a >Window-Eyes for Android cart! I too would love that. But Android as an operating system doesn't need a robust screen reader like Window-eyes. I ultimately think that Doug Geoffray will have the last laugh when Narrator becomes robust enough to displace Jaws.Orlando Enrique Fiol Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory University of Pennsylvania Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE on other platforms. Was: Re: Why Narrator will be better as a Screen Reader
David, I enjoyed reading your post; it did present some interesting angles regarding my thought process. I believe that the impossible is that which has not been tried. We could all wake up tomorrow and hear an important announcement: Jaws for Android is here! Shall we throw up our arms in the air in disgust? I doubt that. If nothing else, many of us will play ball with it and see where its chips land. After all, in Android Land, you can have as many screen readers as you choose--Talkback, ShinePlus can be used in any Android toy; VoiceAssistant and VoiceViews are still partial to their creators, Samsung and Amazon in that order. I've never been a programmer; yet, I've seen Windows apps being ported over to Android. A good example is Outlook, another is Word and, yes, Excel is available on the Android platform. I may be odd, but I do love and appreciate being able to use touchscreen toys! I am, as of the present moment, equally productive on my Shiny Android toys as I am using a keyboard with a computer. I taught myself all that I do and I ask questions of more knowledgeable folks when I am stuck. No, I'm not a guru and do not frankly wish to be one--nonetheless, if it weren't for the legacy Windows app that are work related, I shall have divorced Windows and keep on running with ONLY Android TOYS in my pocket! I do a lot of travel, I see touchscreen terminals lined up forever at airports. Sadly, they are not accessible. To get around that for the time being, I bring all I need with me for my trips. Example, I check in and print my own burden pass all the time before heading out to the airport. I'm STINGY ENOUGH not to CHECK BAGS, so there's never an argument there. In fact, I don't even go to the airline counter, I head straight to the T S A security line. Oh, I have also CLEARED T S A security checks so i don't need to remove my underwear, belts or shoes to pass through the screening process. Guess I'm crazy lucky and I realise that not everyone is similarly situated. The clearance I have is NOT FREE, cost $100 for five years, I renew it again in 2023 if I'm still breathing and a bit less troublesome, There are a heck of a lot of things I can do with my touchscreen phone which a computer or any currently available access technology DO NOT make possible. For instance, if I don't wish to print my burden pass and carry a piece of paper in my pocket, I can simply show it on my touchscreen Shiny Android toy to a screener at the security gate, or at an airline check-in counter. I'm one person who prefers 99% of everything electronically 'cause the prospects of a misplacement is sharply reduced for me. Heck, for international travels, I can CLEAR THE U.S. CUSTOMS electronically on my touchscreen Shiny Android toy even before I board my flight back home. No computer or access technology will help me do that, but my Shiny Android toys do and they fit snugly in my chest pocket. Thus, I can keep hope alive; it may or may not happen. Notwithstanding, I sure hope that someone much more brilliant than I figures out a way to resurrect Window-Eyes as a screen reader on the Android platform! In some shape or form, we've been here before: Window-Eyes was dying, some of us shouted it out from the treetops and were sent to the gas chambers so we could be forgotten and never heard from. Fortunately, the doors of the gas chambers DIDN'T CLOSE before we were vindicated. Should the hope I nurse become a reality, this beggar who wishes for what is classified as impossible surely wants to ride into town with happiness pushing a Window-Eyes for Android cart! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE on other platforms. Was: Re: Why Narrator will be better as a Screen Reader
Tom, you have a handful of interesting points. Olusegun, dreams sometimes have been the driver for new inventions. Or, what about a Mr Edison, or Mr Ford. They both dreamed - totally unrealistic from the stand of the days - and still, sure changed the lives of most people today. Smiles. Even Louis Braille did have ilutions. And where would many of us have been, did he give up? Difference is, that they forgot about what was already, and started anew; right from scratch. - Forget about the oil in the lamp, let's have some human hair inside a glass container, and put some electricity to it - we might just happen to get some enlightenment. - Forget about all those horses. Let's go get some gasolin, then give the whole thing some electricity - and grandma can have a ride up the steepest hill. - Forget every idea about raised versions of printed letters. Bring a punch from daddy's saddle-maker shop, a piece or two of paper, and leave me alone for the summer vacation. When you see the leaves turn colorful of autumn - here I am going to show you a brand new dotted alphabet. Like Tom stated, Windows is such basically a different beast from Android, or even Apple software - that it would be close to technically impossible to bring the screen reader we have come to enjoy, directly over to the new platform. Furthermore, cellphones, tablets, pads or whatever fancy names they want for their pocket-filler - they all are mobile devices. They are manufactured, even developed, for being products for "on the go" usage; nothing more. Like Tom indicated, reason why they have become so popular, likely is because many people now aday always is on the go - hence the device fits their daily living. But even the most energic geeks, will run into situations where they won't have enough from their mobile device. Did you ever see a server-park, run all from IPads? One thing that I have realized, after trying to learn the Android platform of my cellphone, is the lack of keys. Oh yeah, of course when you want to write something. But what about when you want to control the screen reader? On our PC, whether you use one or the other screen reader, it is a matter of using a couple of keys simultaneously. On the cellphone? Hmm, you are left to do all kinds of more or less intuitive crickle-crackles with your fingers, HOPING that you ended up doing it right. I don't find that very productive. And, even with a keyboard connected - half the time you have to perform certain commands onscreen, due to the fact of it all not being fully keyboard controlable. Tom's point about the developers behind the operating system, and their reluctancy in letting app developers reach deep enough into the code, is quite a show-stopper. The fact that they even let any app run, without all controls on the screen being labelled, is yet another. The whole idea of making a complete system, fully and basically relying on people pegging on a screen, simply never made too much sense to me. What I can do in a matter of seconds on my computer, will take multiple of time on a mobile device; become how good at it you ever want. Have you ever seen anyone - sighted - being able to type the same fast on a touch-screen device, that they could on a full-sized computer keyboard? A few - rather basic businesses - will be able to run all their activity from one of these devices. Still, ask yourself how come that you go to the bank office, the air port check-in, the police station, the public office of any services, the library helpdesk - well you finish the list - and yet, you hardly see any of them performing their business day off a touch-screen device. If these were such great tools, that everyone tell them to be, it sure puzzles why they are not being used more in such cases. The simpler answer to the whole thing, is the productivity, as well as the lack of capacity. A mobile device, which would hold the same speed, quality and technical standard as a computer? Hey, I wonder if it won't be pretty much the same heavy, clumsy, and power-consuming as a computer. Go ahead, invent the wheel all over; but be sure to make it circular this time. Smiles. Mobile devices were developed for mobile use, and will never become anything but that. Tom gave you the analogy of a truck compared to a family car. It is a good one. Though you could dream of selling your car, buying yourself an 18-wheeler - that you never would need worry how many teddybears your daughter wanted to bring along - you also will have to remember that the truck runs on diesel, and that gasolin on that tank will cause nothing but an aching wallet. Smiles. - A full-fledged screen reader on a mobile device? Yeah, maybe, if you enjoy frustrations and limited adaptability. You know, at least on Android, you cannot even redefine the gestures. Someone, who seems to have been born in a circus, has defined what gesture should make the
WE, ZT and IE together a problem
Is anyone successfully using the latest version of ZoomText Magnifier and Window Eyes together on Windows 10 in IE. These two always had worked together until recently. IE will just not function at all or if it does you can't type anything into an edit field successfully. When doing so only part of what I am typing appears or something completely different shows. I am assuming that there is a conflict between the two at least on my system. In all other application they still work together as always. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE question
Hey guys, Can I make a recovery CD for my window eyes that will make it possible to completely remove and reinstall my WE? I have all the last updated so it’s the last version they released. Thanks Tony ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Changing nVDA Cursor Options Like WE
David, NVDA has nowhere near the control and flexibility of Window-Eyes. You can read the entire user's guide pretty quickly. It's the first option in the help pulldown. Unless I somehow missed it there's no control over the cursor keys. Configuration profiles are the equivalent of set files. Hth, Tom On 7/18/2018 11:21 AM, Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk wrote: Hello, I am trying to find a way to change what is spoken when I use the cursor keys in NVDA. In WE the cursor keys can be changed to read character, line, etc.. I would like to do this with NVDA. Also, can I create a set file equivalent with NVDA? David Ayers ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
