Pasted Text reflow

2002-03-31 Thread Dave in Phoenix

OK one more little thing from ex PMMail Customer :)

The reflow and wrap options work fine when I am typing a message
directly.  But if I paste either from clipboard of a file (I often use
pasted canned messages) it doesn't reflow but shows up as one very long
line you have to horizontal scroll to read.

I can ALT L to get it to left justify and reflow, doing a paragraph at a
time. If I highlight all the text it all gets combined in one huge
paragraph which of course I don't want.

I have auto wrap and auto format on and wrap at 72 lines.  But doesn't
if pasted text.

Am I missing something simple...probably...

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Re: Version 1.60 and Common Folders

2002-03-31 Thread Steve Mullarkey


Hi TBUDL,

I have been a (mostly) happy TB! user for a couple of years. However I
have just upgraded from 1.54 to 1.60 and I am worried and unhappy.

I have two accounts and a number of folders and filters in each
account.

TB! 1.60 has created duplicate folders of many of my folders outside
of the accounts. Messages are now contained in the new folders and in
the old folders inside the accounts. In addition a number of my
filters are now not working or the behaviour is different.

>From reading this list I notice a new topic "Common Folders" so I
looked for an explanation in the Help File. NOTHING - not a word!

So next I looked in the "readme.txt" file history list. I see one line
that says :-

   "[+] It is now possible to create folders "outside" accounts"

Is that it? Is that a full explanation?

I didn't ask TB! to do this. Why has it changed my folders without
asking or even advising me?

Why is there nothing in the "Help File" on what seems to me to be a
major behaviour change?

I have been a great fan of TB! and recommended it to several friends
and colleagues but RITLabs this is not the way to go.

Perhaps I am missing the obvious, if so, I apologize for my frustrated
mood. Is there some beautiful clear explanation on this for me? Can
someone show me where I'm missing the point.


Best regards,

Steve Mullarkey. mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tascom Pty Ltd.
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Re: maybe I'm dense but...

2002-03-31 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello John,

Monday, April 1, 2002, 4:35:41 AM, you wrote to TBUDL:

JG> if there was any feature which could exclude a group from the AB
JG> when i am composing a regular email.

Group properties, tick Hide items if not explicitly selected

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KAV

2002-03-31 Thread Robert Golovniov

Hello List,

   I've  got  some  information  on  having   The Bat!  work with  KAV
   Personal  and  higher.  Anyone interested may contact me personally
   and I will forward the needed files.

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Re: Can't connect to 1 of my POP3 accounts

2002-03-31 Thread Luc

 Good morning Ken,
 
It was foretold that on 1-4-2002 @ 20:00:49 GMT-0800 (which was 6:00
where I live) Ken & Marilyn wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Can't connect to 1 of my POP3 accounts":


KM> Nope,  that's  not it. That is a global setting. It that was set wrong
KM> neither  one  of  my  accounts would work. There's got to be something
KM> else.

 Just curious: is the one that isn't working a yahoo account?

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Re[2]: Can't connect to 1 of my POP3 accounts

2002-03-31 Thread Ken & Marilyn

Hello Nick,

Nope,  that's  not it. That is a global setting. It that was set wrong
neither  one  of  my  accounts would work. There's got to be something
else.

Best Regards,

KennyB
www.runnerduck.com

Sunday, March 31, 2002, 4:58:57 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Ken,

> On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 04:57:55 PM (-0700), you typed
> the following in reference to "Can't connect to 1 of my POP3 accounts":

>> Any Thoughts?

> Check Options/Network & Administration and make sure the settings there
> are correct.


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Re[2]: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-31 Thread Dave in Phoenix

> On Friday, March 29, 2002, 7:00:59 AM, Gene Gough wrote:
> > Well, I used shift-F4 to create this reply without quoting.

Thanks for everyone who replies I think I've got it!  Now works fine
for either blank reply or just highlighted quoted via F4.

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Re: maybe I'm dense but...

2002-03-31 Thread Gene Gough



I did similar to what you are doing but soon realized that the change
the sending ID very often just to defeat that method.  What I have
found best is having a filer for each of the various list groups I
listen to that looks at the TO field to divert them to the associated
folder.  Then next to the last filter is one that requires only that
the sender be in my address book and if so, that mail goes into the
standard INBOX.  The final filter is the inverse of that.  Any message
this far down the chain and not in the address book goes to the
Unknown or spam filter.  About 90 percent of the mail that ends up in
that filer truly is spam.  The remaining are senders that I don't have
in my address book and won't put there but not really spam.  For that
reason I have to give a casual glance at the folder contents prior to
trashing them.  This has worked very well and I don't have to continue
to added ID's to a spam filter.




Sunday, March 31, 2002, 9:35:41 PM, John wrote:

> Hello Ottar,

> Saturday, March 30, 2002, 1:32:18 PM, you wrote:

OG>> Another strategy is to make an address book group for all your
OG>> spammers. You just highligh the spam message, rightclick and select
OG>> specials, add to addressbook, and select the spam-group.
OG>> Then you can have a filter that look for @ in sender (every mail
OG>> messages contains this) but under advanced you scroll down and tick
OG>> the box Address must be listed in address book, and select the
OG>> Spam-group.
OG>> This makes makes blocking new spammers as easy as the function in
OG>> Outlook Express (but less precise than the former strategy).

> A  nice  suggestion(I  am  always  looking  for  tricks  at  making spam
> disappear).  I  have  one  question  about  this method. I have set up a
> filter, which will add spammers addresses to a group called Spam(what an
> imagination,  eh??). The only disadvantage i see with this, is when i go
> to  compose  a  normal  window, and i click on the AB to insert someones
> email  address, I am confronted with all the spammers addresses. It is
> a  tad annoying and i was wondering if there was any feature which could
> exclude a group from the AB when i am composing a regular email.


> Also,  to  everyone,  I have been using TB for quite a while now. I have
> messed around with lots of settings and things. One thing I haven't been
> able  to  find,  is  a  facility  which  will  allow  TB  to  dial up my
> connection,  download  new  mail,  AT  a  certain time. Not every X time
> period. Is this possible to achieve with TB?




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Re[2]: maybe I'm dense but...

2002-03-31 Thread John Galvin

Hello Ottar,

Saturday, March 30, 2002, 1:32:18 PM, you wrote:

OG> Another strategy is to make an address book group for all your
OG> spammers. You just highligh the spam message, rightclick and select
OG> specials, add to addressbook, and select the spam-group.
OG> Then you can have a filter that look for @ in sender (every mail
OG> messages contains this) but under advanced you scroll down and tick
OG> the box Address must be listed in address book, and select the
OG> Spam-group.
OG> This makes makes blocking new spammers as easy as the function in
OG> Outlook Express (but less precise than the former strategy).

A  nice  suggestion(I  am  always  looking  for  tricks  at  making spam
disappear).  I  have  one  question  about  this method. I have set up a
filter, which will add spammers addresses to a group called Spam(what an
imagination,  eh??). The only disadvantage i see with this, is when i go
to  compose  a  normal  window, and i click on the AB to insert someones
email  address, I am confronted with all the spammers addresses. It is
a  tad annoying and i was wondering if there was any feature which could
exclude a group from the AB when i am composing a regular email.


Also,  to  everyone,  I have been using TB for quite a while now. I have
messed around with lots of settings and things. One thing I haven't been
able  to  find,  is  a  facility  which  will  allow  TB  to  dial up my
connection,  download  new  mail,  AT  a  certain time. Not every X time
period. Is this possible to achieve with TB?

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Re: common folders autodelete

2002-03-31 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, 4:14:18 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

>   Has a problem of common folders not deleting/compacting @
>   scheduled times been reported?

only in early betas.

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Re: Remove old messages, what date is used?

2002-03-31 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, 5:48:50 AM, Miguel A. Urech wrote:

>> TB! actually adds one day to your settings. If you
>> select to remove messages older than 5 days, TB! will keep messages
>> which is up to 5 days, 23 hours and 59 minutes old.

No. It doesn't add any days. If it used a number one less than it
does, than if your setting was to delete after one day, a message
which arrived at 2359 would need to be deleted after one minute.

> I wish it was at least optional to use Received or Created. I find
> that Created in general is more "real".

actually it isn't at all. I get messages which where created next
week, or even next year, and that were created in 1985. I have no
control over the clock settings of someone who sends me mail. By using
the received date, you determine that the message will be on your
machine for a finite amount of time.

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Re: Can't connect to 1 of my POP3 accounts

2002-03-31 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Ken,

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 04:57:55 PM (-0700), you typed
the following in reference to "Can't connect to 1 of my POP3 accounts":

> Any Thoughts?

Check Options/Network & Administration and make sure the settings there
are correct.


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Can't connect to 1 of my POP3 accounts

2002-03-31 Thread Ken & Marilyn

This  is  really  strange.  I  installed TB! on my laptop and imported
everything  from  my  desktop  using "restore". Everything came across
great  and  appears  to  work.  I reconfigured the setting for dial up
since  my  desktop  is DSL. One of my two accounts works just fine the
other  does  not.  The  one that doesn't work dials the modem and acts
like  it's  checking  and  sending  mail but nothing happens. I double
checked  the  mail  and  SMTP info and it's correct and reentered the
password and still nothing.

Any Thoughts?

KennyB
www.runnerduck.com



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Re[2]: The return of the zombies

2002-03-31 Thread reclutamiento

>Shit like this made me leave Eudora. Shit like this will make me
>leave TB, too.
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common folders autodelete

2002-03-31 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Bat Folk.

  Has a problem of common folders not deleting/compacting @
  scheduled times been reported?

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Re: Moving the bat to windows xp.

2002-03-31 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Sunday 31 March 2002 01:33 pm, you wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 05:00:19 -0800GMT (which was 31.03.02, 15:00 +0200GMT
>
> where I live), Brook Humphrey wrote the following:
> >> I hope you still have the mail from Ritlabs with the registration key.
> >> It should be a mail with the subject: The Bat! Registration. Just copy
> >> the key given there to your new install of TB! It is also possible to
> >> print this mail on paper and copy the key manually. Otherwise, I'm
> >> afraid you'll have to re-request your key from ritlabs.
>
> BH> No unfortuantely I don't have it and I requested it again a long time
> ago and BH> got no response.
>
> Hi Brook,
>
> give it another try and re-re-request. :-)
I don't even remember but if you could kindly post an email address I will 
try.

I just booted it up and the version that I payed for was the haloween edition 
a few years ago.
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Re: Moving the bat to windows xp.

2002-03-31 Thread Peter Meyns

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 05:00:19 -0800GMT (which was 31.03.02, 15:00 +0200GMT
where I live), Brook Humphrey wrote the following:

>> I hope you still have the mail from Ritlabs with the registration key.
>> It should be a mail with the subject: The Bat! Registration. Just copy
>> the key given there to your new install of TB! It is also possible to
>> print this mail on paper and copy the key manually. Otherwise, I'm
>> afraid you'll have to re-request your key from ritlabs.
BH> No unfortuantely I don't have it and I requested it again a long time ago and 
BH> got no response.

Hi Brook,

give it another try and re-re-request. :-)
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Re[2]: option suggestion - interested in feedback

2002-03-31 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hi Mark :-)

>> Try Shift+Enter.

> Now there's one I didn't know! I thank you.

No wonder! Let's see, how many keys in a normal keyboard? 102? So,
102, combined with Alt, Ctrl, Shift, Alt+Ctrl, Alt+Shift, Ctrl+Shift,
Alt+Ctrl+Shift make about 714. But then, some combinations have
different funtionality depending if focus is on folder tree, or
message list, or preview pane, or the AB, or view folder, or editor,
or the To pane of the view folder, or the CC one, or...

It took me a couple of days to learn them all ;)

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Re[2]: Mailto url goes nuts in IE

2002-03-31 Thread Terry Barnes

Hi Dierk,

Please see below. Thanks - this is resolved - at least for me

-
Sunday, March 31, 2002, 6:06:00 AM, you wrote:

>> Any mailto link in IE seems to exhibit this behavior, but only on one
>> of my PCs which is running XP Pro. The WinXP machine is a server to
>> the other machines. Sometimes when this happens, I get a error message
>> staing that the default mail client is not installed properly. IE's
>> Tools|Internet Options|Programs shows "The Bat!" being registered as
>> the email client.

DH> First thing: Go to this setting, change it from TB! to another client.
DH> OK it. Again go there and change it back to TB!. now press OK and
DH> leave the settings. For good measure close IE. Now open IE and try a
DH> mailto link.

DH> This procedure can remedy problems between IE and non-MS mail clients.

The above procedure resolved my problem. Thanks!!!


DH> If not, the problem lies in the parsing of IE (with one of the Opera
DH> betas there was a similar problem; and sometimes URLs clicked in TB!
DH> were parsed into many different URLs opened in separate windows with
DH> Opera).

>> I am guessing that this probably has something to do with either WinXP
>> or something not right in the registry.

DH> If you use XP, your IE is 6.x, isn't it? Are you computer versed
DH> enough to go through your registry? Either with a suitable tool or by
DH> hand?

Yes - Have been programming for 24 years :)
I will compare what is now in registry with what was there before. If
I find any thing of interest - I will post here for anyone who cares.

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Re: Moving the bat to windows xp.

2002-03-31 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Sunday 31 March 2002 10:43 am, you wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 03:31:44 -0800GMT (which was 31.03.02, 13:31 +0200GMT
> where I live), Brook Humphrey wrote the following:
>
> BH> I have a legal License of the bat on my windows 98 drive but I have
> recently BH> moved yto windows xp.
>
> ..
>
> BH> How do I move my bat instellation over to windows xp? Reinstalling xp
> on top BH> of my windows 98 is not an option as it is not running very well
> and needed BH> to be reinstalled any way. The only reason I even keep it
> arround is because BH> of the bat.
>
> Hi Brook,
>
> I hope you still have the mail from Ritlabs with the registration key.
> It should be a mail with the subject: The Bat! Registration. Just copy
> the key given there to your new install of TB! It is also possible to
> print this mail on paper and copy the key manually. Otherwise, I'm
> afraid you'll have to re-request your key from ritlabs.
No unfortuantely I don't have it and I requested it again a long time ago and 
got no response.

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Re: Moving the bat to windows xp.

2002-03-31 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Sunday 31 March 2002 11:13 am, you wrote:
> @ 03:31:44 -0800 [ Sun, 31 Mar 2002], Brook Humphrey [BH] contributed
> this to our collective wisdom:
> ..
> BH> How do I move my bat instellation over to windows xp? Reinstalling
> BH> xp on top of my windows 98 is not an option as it is not running
> BH> very well and needed to be reinstalled any way. The only reason I
> BH> even keep it arround is because of the bat.
>
> I had answered this question just recently on the list.

Yes silly me I've been using linux for so long to do email that I dropped of 
the bat mailing list a long time ago. I just recently decided to try and get 
it set up again as if I do any emailing from windows at all it will be using 
the bat. Thanks for the advice bellow.

>
> This is what I wrote:
>
> a) Backup your current installation and then do an upgrade of your
> current installation to the current one. Only if it's working well
> should you proceed with the rest of the steps. Otherwise, restore your
> old installation, and we can discuss how to transfer it to your new
> system.
>
> If you've successfully upgraded you can do the following:
>
> a) Go to the Tools menu and select 'Backup'. Tick all the items there,
> select 'Standard' backup and hit the 'browse' to indicate where you wish
> the backup file to be placed and the name you wish to give it. Now run
> the backup.
>
> b) On the new machine, install TB! v1.60c. You may be asked if you wish
> to restore a from a backup during this installation (new feature that I
> haven't personally seen in action). If so, then give it the backup file
> to work with and you're done.
>
> If not, not to worry. Do what I had to do. :-) Just continue with the
> installation, create an account as instructed (and which you'll delete
> after restoring your installation). When you're finished with that part
> go to the tools menu and select 'restore'. Add your backup file and tick
> all the items at the bottom and go.

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Re: Moving the bat to windows xp.

2002-03-31 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Sunday 31 March 2002 10:29 am, you wrote:
> Hello Brook,
>
> 31. marec 2002, 13:31:44, you wrote:
> > How do I move my bat instellation over to windows xp? Reinstalling xp on
> > top of my windows 98 is not an option as it is not running very well and
> > needed to be reinstalled any way. The only reason I even keep it arround
> > is because of the bat.
>
> If you don't have the e-mail with your registration key anymore, open
> RegEdit in Win98, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit\ and export
> "The Bat!" branch. Then just double-click on the REG file in WinXP.
Thanks I was wondering if this whould work.
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Re: Moving the bat to windows xp.

2002-03-31 Thread Jernej Simončič

Hello Brook,
 
31. marec 2002, 13:31:44, you wrote:

> How do I move my bat instellation over to windows xp? Reinstalling xp on top
> of my windows 98 is not an option as it is not running very well and needed 
> to be reinstalled any way. The only reason I even keep it arround is because 
> of the bat.

If you don't have the e-mail with your registration key anymore, open
RegEdit in Win98, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit\ and export
"The Bat!" branch. Then just double-click on the REG file in WinXP.

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Re: Moving the bat to windows xp.

2002-03-31 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 03:31:44 -0800 [ Sun, 31 Mar 2002], Brook Humphrey [BH] contributed
this to our collective wisdom:
...
BH> How do I move my bat instellation over to windows xp? Reinstalling
BH> xp on top of my windows 98 is not an option as it is not running
BH> very well and needed to be reinstalled any way. The only reason I
BH> even keep it arround is because of the bat.

I had answered this question just recently on the list.

This is what I wrote:

a) Backup your current installation and then do an upgrade of your
current installation to the current one. Only if it's working well
should you proceed with the rest of the steps. Otherwise, restore your
old installation, and we can discuss how to transfer it to your new
system.

If you've successfully upgraded you can do the following:

a) Go to the Tools menu and select 'Backup'. Tick all the items there,
select 'Standard' backup and hit the 'browse' to indicate where you wish
the backup file to be placed and the name you wish to give it. Now run
the backup.

b) On the new machine, install TB! v1.60c. You may be asked if you wish
to restore a from a backup during this installation (new feature that I
haven't personally seen in action). If so, then give it the backup file
to work with and you're done.

If not, not to worry. Do what I had to do. :-) Just continue with the
installation, create an account as instructed (and which you'll delete
after restoring your installation). When you're finished with that part
go to the tools menu and select 'restore'. Add your backup file and tick
all the items at the bottom and go.

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Re: possible color group bug(s)

2002-03-31 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:35:49 -0500, Jan Rifkinson [JR] graced us with
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...
I had to go back to your original message Jan to understand the latter
part of the thread.

JR> While editing *existing* color group name/description, I couldn't
JR> change the color group handle.

I've noted this as well. The best thing to do is to delete the colour
group and recreate it. Or just leave the handle alone.

JR> All incoming TB! msgd are moved to a TB! folder & a filter action
JR> forces those msgs to be marked by color group depending on kludge
JR> address. However, color group color does not appear until msg is
JR> read even tho filter is in incoming folder.

In the colour groups configuration, note that for each colour groups
configuration, you can assign a colour for when the message is unread
and when it's unread (normal). You've only set your colour for
'normal'/read and forgot to set the same colour for Unread.

JR> At the top of my filter list is a filter that marks my own msgs
JR> [ie from Jan Rifkinson] w a strike thru. Action: mark read.
JR> Option: continue processing. Strike thru color group is assigned
JR> ok but TB! colors are not assigned when TB! msgs hit the TB!
JR> filters.

This is because the colour group assignment by your first filter is
overwritten by the second filter for the lists messages.

What you should do is disable, continue processing with the other
filters and set the TBUDL folder as the target folder. IOW's filter
your own messages separately. In my setup, I have 9 filters for TBUDL,
TBBETA and TBTECH. Three filter messages from me to the three list
folders. Another filters replies to my messages to the three folders
and the final three filters all other messages to their respective
folders. I had to do this because I wish to colour those three
different types of list messages differently.

JR> I guess color filters are not additive but I don't know why if the
JR> 'continue processing' command is invoked.

They aren't additive since you can't assign multiple colour groups to
a single message. If the actions are different in more than one filter
being applied to a single message then the actions are indeed
additive. In the case of colour groups, it's the colour group
assignment of the last applied filter that will be applied.

JR> After all TB! colors were assigned under actions, I decided to
JR> re-filter old msgs so colors could be assigned & I could sort on
JR> color group. I re-filtered TB! folder msgs. Colors changed [on
JR> read msgs] & 1 un-expected bonus action: the re-filtering set off
JR> a *manual only* filter that automatically sets up spam msgs for
JR> SPAMCOP. Suddenly I had 503 msgs in my Outbox. Fortunately I'm set
JR> for delayed send.

Why would your spam filter be weeding out messages in your discussion
list folder?

JR>   Which [if any of these] would you consider bugs?

Only your very first problem with the handle not being changeable.

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Re: Mailto url goes nuts in IE

2002-03-31 Thread Gerrit Kiers

Hello batters,

Sunday, March 31, 2002, 12:32:27 PM, Terry Barnes wrote:

TB> Any mailto link in IE seems to exhibit this behavior, but only on one
TB> of my PCs which is running XP Pro.

It probably should be attributed to IE 6. I have seen the same happening on a Win
2000 machine twice, and here The Bat! 1.60 is installed as a second e-mail reader,
leaving the privilege to be the default mailto-program to Explorer Outlook (v6).

In my case numerous instances of IE were opened all with the mailto:... in the
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Re[2]: possible color group bug(s)

2002-03-31 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Jan,

>>>  However, color group
>>>  color does not appear until msg is read even tho filter
>>>  is in incoming folder.

Miguel>> Have you defined both the Read and Unread colour for
Miguel>> each group?

>   Unread msgs are default settings. Whether TB! considers
>   that a color setting or not, I don't know. I would think
>   it should because it is.

>   What were you considering?

If you define a colour groups as Green only for Read messages and
leave the unread with default values, you will not see the green
colour until the message has been read, which is exactly what you wre
"complaining" about. Try setting the Unread also to Green and see what
happens.

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Re: Moving the bat to windows xp.

2002-03-31 Thread Peter Meyns

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 03:31:44 -0800GMT (which was 31.03.02, 13:31 +0200GMT
where I live), Brook Humphrey wrote the following:

BH> I have a legal License of the bat on my windows 98 drive but I have recently 
BH> moved yto windows xp.

...

BH> How do I move my bat instellation over to windows xp? Reinstalling xp on top 
BH> of my windows 98 is not an option as it is not running very well and needed 
BH> to be reinstalled any way. The only reason I even keep it arround is because 
BH> of the bat.

Hi Brook,

I hope you still have the mail from Ritlabs with the registration key.
It should be a mail with the subject: The Bat! Registration. Just copy
the key given there to your new install of TB! It is also possible to
print this mail on paper and copy the key manually. Otherwise, I'm
afraid you'll have to re-request your key from ritlabs.
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Moving the bat to windows xp.

2002-03-31 Thread Brook Humphrey

I have a legal License of the bat on my windows 98 drive but I have recently 
moved yto windows xp. Windows xp is on it's own harddrive. When i try to us 
ethe bat I obviously get the popup telling me it is not registered because 
the correct keys are not in the registry to show this in windows xp. 

How do I move my bat instellation over to windows xp? Reinstalling xp on top 
of my windows 98 is not an option as it is not running very well and needed 
to be reinstalled any way. The only reason I even keep it arround is because 
of the bat.
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Re: possible color group bug(s)

2002-03-31 Thread Jernej Simončič

Hello Jan,
 
31. marec 2002, 19:51:44, you wrote:

JR>   What were you considering?

The color group settings are separate for unread and read messaged.
Look closely at the Edit color group dialog, you should see Normal and
Unread tabs.

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Re: possible color group bug(s)

2002-03-31 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Miguel.

At 11:08 PM on Saturday, March 30, 2002 you wrote the
following about [tbudl Digest V2 #85]:

>>  However, color group
>>  color does not appear until msg is read even tho filter
>>  is in incoming folder.

Miguel> Have you defined both the Read and Unread colour for
Miguel> each group?

  Unread msgs are default settings. Whether TB! considers
  that a color setting or not, I don't know. I would think
  it should because it is.

  What were you considering?

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Re: option suggestion - interested in feedback

2002-03-31 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@31 March 2002, 11:16:53 -0500 (17:16 UK time) Allie C Martin wrote in
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DB>> I see. It would be very (very) nice to have a keystroke that
DB>> activated the address picker whenever the focus is on an address
DB>> field in the message editor.

> Try Shift+Enter.

Now there's one I didn't know! I thank you.

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Re: option suggestion - interested in feedback

2002-03-31 Thread Allie C Martin

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DB> I see. It would be very (very) nice to have a keystroke that
DB> activated the address picker whenever the focus is on an address
DB> field in the message editor.

Try Shift+Enter.

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Re: option suggestion - interested in feedback

2002-03-31 Thread Dave Braze



Saturday, March 30, 2002, 9:20:01 PM, Marck wrote: 
MDP> Hi Dave,

MDP> @31 March 2002, 20:38:22 -0500 (02:38 UK time) Dave Braze wrote in
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MDP>>> To access the alternative addresses, you have to bring up the
MDP>>> address picker window while addressing the message.

>> Excuse my ignorance, but how do you do this (preferably without the
>> mouse)?

MDP> I can't figure out a way to do it without the mouse. First you click
MDP> on the Address book icon at the end of the message address line (To,
MDP> CC:, BCC, etc). That takes you to the "Address Picker" window.

I see. It would be very (very) nice to have a keystroke that activated the
address picker whenever the focus is on an address field in the message
editor. It seems to me that all functions commonly used to fire off an
email should be easily accessible through the keyboard alone.

MDP>>> In the address picker, right click a name in the address list on
MDP>>> the left.

>> Again, can it be done without touching the mouse?

MDP> That's easier. Use tab to switch between Group and Name selection to
MDP> find the Group and Individual you want to pick an address for. Press
MDP> Shift-F10 (or "Menu") key.

MDP>>> Where a name has multiple addresses, the "Add address" option has a
MDP>>> drop down sub-menu which contains a list of the alternative
MDP>>> addresses. Choose the correct address from there.

Ah. Better. In my Bat, the address picker comes up with focus on the
"Quick Search" widget. If you enter enough to identify the individual
you want, then you can hit tab to change to the address pane and go from
there. Alt-1 will insert the first address from the selected AB entry,
but you have to remember to check if there is more than one address by
actually calling up the menu (shift-f10). Maybe it wouldn't be too much
to ask for a column in the address pane with a flag indicating whether
there are multiple entries for an AB entry. This alone would go some
ways toward addressing the issue below.

>> Sometimes I forget that a contact has more than one email address.
>> It would be nice if there were some indication in the edit-message
>> window that an address that's been "auto-filled" (by way of a
>> nickname, for example) is but one of a set of alternatives.

Two possibilities would seem helpful from the usability standpoint.

(1) Whenever a nickname is entered into an adddress field that has more
than one email address associated with it (the AB entry, really), then
popup a dialog allowing the user to select which one(s) he wants.

(2) As an alternative, perhaps there could be a configurable option for
nicknames to insert all available addresses associated with an AB entry,
then you could delete the ones you don't want.

MDP> It would be nice, but that sounds like it could be quite a bit of code
MDP> and intelligence for so small a function. Still, who knows? Perhaps
MDP> it's worth shoving into the wish list.

I can't speak to how much code and work would be required to instantiate
the function, but it doesn't seem like a small bit of functionality.
Certainly it's not the most important issue, but for an email program,
anything that helps the user to locate and access correct addresses
should be considered a core part of the functionality.

Anyhow, thank you for your help and your thoughts. Do you think it would
be useful to forward this to Ritlabs as a request for features?


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Re[2]: newsgroups

2002-03-31 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hi Peter,

> Could you please give me some hints on working with the Mailtraq?

I'm not an "expert" yet, but I'll try.

> I subscribed to five newsgroups to test the software but the results
> were not very promising.

I'd suggest you try just with one until you understand everything and
get it working. I didn't get it working on first trial either, I even
restarted from scratch (un-installing and reinstalling) a couple of
times.

> I tried to download 50 latest postings on each of these groups but
> managed to get over 500 from one group, about one hundred from
> another and not one from the three others. Oh dear...

That I have clear now, I think. When in the Properties for a Newsgroup
you select for example to "Only Download 50", that is the maximum it
will download "per session". But if you have selected "Ignore articles
older than XX days", and there are 1000 "younger" than XX days, it
will download 1000 articles, 50 per session.

> Also I couldn't figure out how to make the news to mail gateway
> work... :-(

Than may depend on how you want to get the articles (as e-mail) into
TB. Obviously, in the Properties for each Newsgroup you have to select
the Mail Gateway tab and tick (select) the Enable Mail to News Gateway
option. Then you have to Add the e-mail address where you want your
news articles sent as e-mail. Click on Add and include this e-mail
address in the "E-Mail Address to post to" and on the "To: Field for
messages" (which will be the address you have to send your replies from
TB!) I suggest that you use the default suggested by MailTraq.

Also, before closing the Properties dialog for a newsgroups, if you
want to be able to post and reply to this newsgroup from TB!, select
the News Gateway tab and tick Enable News to Mail Gateway.

> Any step-by-step help would be very much appreciated!

I assume you have gone through the step-by-step Getting Started Wizard
that automatically executes after installation. Anyway, to make sure
you have set the "proper" configuration, you can run it again at any
time from Help/Getting Started Wizard.

Then, the only other thing I can' think of is the "Outbox Properties"
(Options/Outgoing Mail). Here you have to include the Remote Mail
Server where you have the e-mail account that you selected in the News
to E-mail Gateway. In my case, I have included here the IP address of
my own mail server in my office. But it can be any remote server (e.g
your ISP's server if that's the account you have selected).

Let me know how it goes.

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Re: Mailto url goes nuts in IE

2002-03-31 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 13:06:00 +0200 [ Sun, 31 Mar 2002], Dierk Haasis [DH] thoughtfully
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DH> First thing: Go to this setting, change it from TB! to another
DH> client. OK it. Again go there and change it back to TB!. now press
DH> OK and leave the settings. For good measure close IE. Now open IE
DH> and try a mailto link.

DH> This procedure can remedy problems between IE and non-MS mail
DH> clients.

I had the very same problem being discussed here and the procedure you
described is what fixed it for me.

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Re[2]: Remove old messages, what date is used?

2002-03-31 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Marcus,

Thanks for your reply.

>> I have selected "Remove old messages On Exit" in a few folders and
>> it doesn't seem to work, at least as I expected. Which date is used
>> to determine if a message is old, the Received or the Created one?

> Received. Besides, TB! actually adds one day to your settings. If you
> select to remove messages older than 5 days, TB! will keep messages
> which is up to 5 days, 23 hours and 59 minutes old.

I wish it was at least optional to use Received or Created. I find
that Created in general is more "real". I have imported some e-mail
folders from my previous e-mail client (some with messages several
years old) but, for TB!, they have been Received just a couple of days
ago. I now have in a same folder messages much older than those that
were already in the folder, but that have been received much later.

While it is true that TB! "receives" messages when imported, it would
be good if while importing it had an option to set Received date/time
equal to Created.

Some thing happens with some accounts that don't use very frequently,
or some that I don't check while I am on travel, the Received time may
be weeks later than Created

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Automaticaly expanding threads

2002-03-31 Thread Marion

Hello tbudl,

  Is it possible toinstall somewhere for threads to automatically
  expand when a new unread message is received and inserted?

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Re: Mailto url goes nuts in IE

2002-03-31 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Terry!

On Sunday, March 31, 2002 at 12:32:27 PM you wrote:

> Any mailto link in IE seems to exhibit this behavior, but only on one
> of my PCs which is running XP Pro. The WinXP machine is a server to
> the other machines. Sometimes when this happens, I get a error message
> staing that the default mail client is not installed properly. IE's
> Tools|Internet Options|Programs shows "The Bat!" being registered as
> the email client.

First thing: Go to this setting, change it from TB! to another client.
OK it. Again go there and change it back to TB!. now press OK and
leave the settings. For good measure close IE. Now open IE and try a
mailto link.

This procedure can remedy problems between IE and non-MS mail clients.

If not, the problem lies in the parsing of IE (with one of the Opera
betas there was a similar problem; and sometimes URLs clicked in TB!
were parsed into many different URLs opened in separate windows with
Opera).

> I am guessing that this probably has something to do with either WinXP
> or something not right in the registry.

If you use XP, your IE is 6.x, isn't it? Are you computer versed
enough to go through your registry? Either with a suitable tool or by
hand?



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Re[3]: Mailto url goes nuts in IE

2002-03-31 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hi Dave,

> What happens for me with IE 6 is that clicking a url link in TB!
> opens a blank window and the intended window!

Works fine for me. Only the "intended window" is open.

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Re[2]: Mailto url goes nuts in IE

2002-03-31 Thread Dave Conroy

>> When I click on a mailto: link in IE, it fails. What does
>> happen is that IE launches anywhere from 12 to 57 new browser
>> with the mailto: url in the address line. This works fine in
>> Opera after following the suggestions on the FAQ, but I have
>> not seen anything related to making this work in IE.

MAU> Works just fine here with IE 6.0.

What happens for me with IE 6 is that clicking a url link in TB!
opens a blank window and the intended window! This is irritating,
but not too problematic. Works fine in Opera 6.01, my usual
browser.
 
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Re[2]: Mailto url goes nuts in IE

2002-03-31 Thread Terry Barnes

Hi Dierk,

DH> Can you please incorporate such a link in a message? Make it the
DH> shortest possible that shows that behaviour.

DH> Yes, I'm onto something, but will test before publish.

Any mailto link in IE seems to exhibit this behavior, but only on one
of my PCs which is running XP Pro. The WinXP machine is a server to
the other machines. Sometimes when this happens, I get a error message
staing that the default mail client is not installed properly. IE's
Tools|Internet Options|Programs shows "The Bat!" being registered as
the email client.

I am guessing that this probably has something to do with either WinXP
or something not right in the registry.

Thanks,
Terry Barnes



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Re: Mailto url goes nuts in IE

2002-03-31 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Terry!

On Sunday, March 31, 2002 at 6:22:04 AM you wrote:

> When I click on a mailto: link in IE, it fails. What does happen is
> that IE launches anywhere from 12 to 57 new browser with the mailto:
> url in the address line. This works fine in Opera after following the
> suggestions on the FAQ, but I have not seen anything related to making
> this work in IE.

Can you please incorporate such a link in a message? Make it the
shortest possible that shows that behaviour.

Yes, I'm onto something, but will test before publish.


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Re: Mailto url goes nuts in IE

2002-03-31 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hi Terry,

> When I click on a mailto: link in IE, it fails. What does happen is
> that IE launches anywhere from 12 to 57 new browser with the mailto:
> url in the address line. This works fine in Opera after following the
> suggestions on the FAQ, but I have not seen anything related to making
> this work in IE.

Works just fine here with IE 6.0.

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Re: strange cluttter at end of messages

2002-03-31 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hi Dwight,

> Has anyone ever seen anything like this before? Any suggestions?

Tell him to check the templates for that mailing list folder, just in
case.

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Re: strange cluttter at end of messages

2002-03-31 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Dwight!

On Saturday, March 30, 2002 at 11:36:37 PM you wrote:

> Has anyone ever seen anything like this before? Any suggestions?

Never seen this except they were inserted by intent.


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Re: CC address makro?

2002-03-31 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Andreas,

On Saturday, March 30, 2002 at 4:30:37 PM you wrote (at least in
part):

AS> how can I include the first name of the CC addressee in my "Hello ..."
AS> line? I can't seem to find a macro for this.

I think you'll have to build a regular expression extraction around
'%CCLIST'.
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