Re: Power Outage Destroyed Operation of Common Filters
On Thu 3-Jul-08 9:42am -0600, Roelof Otten wrote: In case you haven't got any backup, Try to copy and paste all filters to your text editor and follow the same procedure as above, but in stead of restoring the account.srb/account.erb file from mail directory simply delete them Note that every account has an account.srb file too. Those store the account filters and you should leave them alone, the file in the mail directory stores the common filters. Thanks for all those details on the other two approaches - I've color coded that message and parked it - just in case. Deleting both the ACCOUNT.SRB and ACCOUNT.SRX from the Mail folder appears to have solved the problem. Thanks again! I'm still getting a pair of errors, that were part of more errors, that I've been getting at startup in my thebat_Exceiption.log since the power outage. I'll start a separate thread on those messages. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.25 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error Messages
Hello TB User Discussion List, I've been getting a pair of error messages in my error file (thebat_Exceptions.log) each time I start TB!. This began after a power outage shut down my system. The two messages follow - does anyone know what these messages are trying to tell me? Date: 04 Jul 2008 18:43:23 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 470/1022 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1965/2047 MB Address: 004626DE ClassName: EReadError Message: Stream read error IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20080701174312 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 004626DE [0040] 004626D9 [0040] 00462675 [0040] 004641E0 [0040] 00462641 [0040] 00464059 [0040] 00BB437C [0040] 00BB48F1 [0040] 00C4B06B [0040] 00C4C6A4 [0040] 00C50A47 [0040] 00C55D84 [0040] Date: 04 Jul 2008 18:43:23 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 470/1022 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1965/2047 MB Address: 004626DE ClassName: EReadError Message: Stream read error IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20080701174312 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 004626DE [0040] 008CB6C5 [0040] 004626D9 [0040] 00462675 [0040] 004641E0 [0040] 00462641 [0040] 00464059 [0040] 00BB4435 [0040] 00BB48F1 [0040] 00C4B06B [0040] 00C4C6A4 [0040] 00C50A47 [0040] 00C55D84 [0040] -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.25 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Power Outage Destroyed Operation of Common Filters
Hello TB User Discussion List, Sunday, I added several new sorting office incoming filters to my usual account. I failed to shut down TB after doing this and just left my computer in Stand By mode over night. We had a power outage Monday while my computer was on (it lasted longer than the battery). When I restarted, every seemed fine until I tried a Read messages filter from the Common Filters account. Ctrl-Shift-X, which normally deletes a message both locally and on the server, didn't work. When I checked my sorting office, I noticed that the new (added Sunday) incoming filters filters were missing! I then checked the Common Filters - there were my new filters from my account. I moved them, one at a time, from the Common Filters to my account. I had to close and open TB each time or I received an unrecoverable error message and had to shut down TB with Task Manager. Now my Common Filters have this odd structure. I've rebooted WinXP to no avail. Incoming mail Outgoing mail Moving In Hooks Selective Download Read messages Replied messages Outgoing mail Read messages Replied messages Selective Download Note that all the high level filters (except Incoming mail) are repeated in Incoming mail along with Moving In Hooks and there are not in there normal sorted order. I can add, say, a Read messages filter to Common Filters - but it doesn't work. How can I fix my Common Filters so they work again? Thanks for listening. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.24 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
X-Ray Question
Hello TB User Discussion List, I've set up X-Ray for POP3 with local port of 1 and Remote Port of 110. In TB, I changed the port address to 1. I tried replacing my User name with xray and xray.srv to no avail. What changes to I have to make to TB to get this to work - I can't find the email program setup in the X-Ray docs. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.23 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray Question
On Sat 28-Jun-08 7:07pm -0600, Urban wrote: Saturday, June 28, 2008, Bill McCarthy wrote: In TB, I changed the port address to 1. I tried replacing my User name with xray and xray.srv to no avail. What changes to I have to make to TB to get this to work I'm not familiar with X-ray so I might be totally wrong but... You did remember to set TB! to localhost (or 127.0.0.1) as Mail server? Now that sounds familiar. No I didn't change it - that wasn't mentioned anywhere in the X-Ray readme file. I just tried it out - thanks, that worked! -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.23 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Edit Some Filters
On Mon 28-Apr-08 3:10am -0600, Marten Gallagher wrote: Some of my filters, although they stilll work, cannot be edited. Hmmm - interesting - I have been having filter trouble since latest TB version but have been unable to pin down the symptoms properly - new filters in folders outside accounts seem to be not working. I wonder ifnthere is something about filters that has been upset in latest version? Possibly, my filters are working fine and I haven't edited them for at least a month. I noticed this inability to edit just yesterday. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [860DB57E.01C8A8B6.44BF974A.381CE279] Name: To\20Someone Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0Ag.com/0D/0Ahh.net/0D/0Ai.com/0D/0Atbbeta-bounces/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0A/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0A.uu.com/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0Amccarthy\0D\0A}\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CBill\5CInbox\5CTo\20Me IsActive IsSendQueue endFilter I do notice in this filkter you have pasted that thre are forwrd slashes where I woul expect backslashes to esape characters eg: bill/0D/0Amccarthy Could that be something to investifate? I don't think so. Looking at serveral filters, I always see /0D/0A separating list items. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Edit Some Filters
On Mon 28-Apr-08 6:42am -0600, Peter Meyns wrote: Am 28.04.2008 00:41 schrieb Bill McCarthy: Is there a limit on the number of items (this one has 24) in a contains any of? I remember from some time ago that TB! gets problems with too many conditions in a filter. No-one could tell the exact limit, but it turned out to be a solution to use address book groups for this. So the filter only needs to check if an address is in a certain group instead of checking *all* conditions (addresses) every time. Maybe you can use this approach too. Whether it searches a list or an address book doesn't appear to raise performance issues. I was surprised you mentioned address books (or groups), given that I have generic names like @abc where I want to catch [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried out your suggestion but it didn't work. My filter is working fine, but doesn't display for editing. I edited the filter, by copying and pasting to my editor another item to the list. I pasted from my editor to the Sorting Office and tried it out - perfect! But this is a clumsey way to edit the Sorting Office :-) -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't Edit Some Filters
Hello TB User Discussion List, Some of my filters, although they stilll work, cannot be edited. For example, the one I've included here has a Sender - contains any of - followed by a list that cannot be seen or edited. Is there a limit on the number of items (this one has 24) in a contains any of? Help! The exact filter, with addresses altered, is included in the 9 lines below: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [860DB57E.01C8A8B6.44BF974A.381CE279] Name: To\20Someone Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0Ag.com/0D/0Ahh.net/0D/0Ai.com/0D/0Atbbeta-bounces/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0A/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0A.uu.com/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0Amccarthy\0D\0A}\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CBill\5CInbox\5CTo\20Me IsActive IsSendQueue endFilter -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Certain Characters in Mail
On Thu 7-Feb-08 11:19pm -0600, John Phillips wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, at 22:34:38 [GMT -0600] (15:34:38 08/02/2008 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Both cases have character translations - for example I see several =20 sequences which are not in the sent mail. Is this in received mail? I had a similar problem in Agent under Widows, and very occasionally under Claws in Linux. I think it is something to do with the sender having a mangled mail client; and usually happens in Outlook Xpress, but please correct me if wrong? Yes, it is from received patches for Vim. Unix users are receiving the same mail and not having a problem. Thanks for your reply. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.7 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with Certain Characters in Mail
Hello TB User Discussion List, I'm having problems with mail containing characters outside the range of decimal 32-127. I try to capture the mail by executing my editor, gVim, with %1 as the file argument. I also tried exporting to a Unix Mailbox and then editing that file. Both cases have character translations - for example I see several =20 sequences which are not in the sent mail. Other users are able to read these mails without problems. One such user wrote: At least for mutt, you can perform a decoding save via EscC and the resulting file will be fine. I'm not sure if The Bat! has something similar, but I'd think most mail clients should. Might just have to dig around in the docs. Does anyone know how to do this with The Bat!? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.7 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Mail Ticker
On Fri 23-Nov-07 8:10pm -0600, Terry Munson wrote: Wednesday, November 21, 2007, 4:53:56 PM, you wrote: I went to Options/Preferences/Mail Ticker and made sure my settings matched the Help document. The only difference between my setup and what shows in the help file is...I have the auto-zoom checked and scroll speed is set to slower. Hardly seems this would make any difference. You might try checking and un-checking the always on top option. Thanks you for responding, Terry. I've tried your suggestion - still no ticker. Using TB for many years now, I'm surprised at the lost ticker. I didn't miss it when I turned it off (by unchecking all folders), but now that I want it for a few special folders the darn thing doesn't work anymore :-( -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Mail Ticker
On Wed 28-Nov-07 3:31am -0600, MAU wrote: You might try checking and un-checking the always on top option. Thanks you for responding, Terry. I've tried your suggestion - still no ticker. Using TB for many years now, I'm surprised at the lost ticker. I didn't miss it when I turned it off (by unchecking all folders), but now that I want it for a few special folders the darn thing doesn't work anymore :-( Does it show if you select to display 'Always'? If not, it may be that, for some reason, it is being displayed off screen. In this case, check the Registry 'Left' and 'Top' values in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Ticker and set them both to zero. This should bring the Ticker to the top left corner of your screen. Thanks, Miguel - it was apparently off he screen. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No Mail Ticker
Hello TB User Discussion List, I've had the Mail Ticker off for a while but decided to turn it back on. I went to Options/Preferences/Mail Ticker and made sure my settings matched the Help document. I clicked on folders and picked all folders. I clicked on Age Limits - neither is checked. There are many unread mails - yet no mail ticker :-( Any ideas? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Managing Sent Mail
Hello TB User Discussion List, I automatically redirect certain mail to the office. I want to keep sent mail in the Sent Mail folder but not those redirected to the office. Is there any way to do that? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.99.7 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Managing Sent Mail
On Sun 27-May-07 4:43pm -0600, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Bill, On Sun, 27 May 2007 12:43:45 -0500GMT (27-5-2007, 19:43 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM I want to keep sent mail in the Sent Mail folder but not BM those redirected to the office. Is there any way to do BM that? Create an outgoing filter that checks whether the sent message has the office as addressee and also contains the Resent-from: header. Have that filter execute your preferred action: deleting, moving to a dedicated folder or whatever. Nice clean solution - thanks Roelof! -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.99.7 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
On Sat 24-Feb-07 2:30pm -0600, Susanne wrote: I upgraded to TB version 3.95.6 and now the emails that are not filtered to a special folder and previously (version 2.12) landed in my inbox are put directly into the Trash folder. How can I change it so they get directed into the inbox again? Right click on one of those misdirected mails in Trash and pick Test Filters. With only Incoming Mail checked, click OK to see what put that message in Trash. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.96.14 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Subfilters
Hello TB User Discussion List, I think I understand how to use subfilters, but I can't find the help material in the help file. What do I type into Search to find the help and examples? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.96.8 (BETA) AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subfilters
On Sat 17-Feb-07 1:13pm -0600, Roelof Otten wrote: On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:56:48 -0600GMT you wrote: I think I understand how to use subfilters, but I can't find the help material in the help file. What do I type into Search to find the help and examples? IIRC the help file predates the subfilters, so you're out of luck. Basically subfilters act the same as ordinary filters, they only act upon messages that have triggered their parent filter. Hmm, they've been around a long time. Perhaps it's time for Ritlabs to add a small help section? That parent doesn't need to have enabled the option 'continue processing with other filters' in order to have its subfilters to be processed. Outstanding! That just what I wanted to lookup. Thanks. There used to be some issues with regard to common subfilters. I don't know whether they're solved yet, so you might do best to avoid those. Good to know, I'll avoid them. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.96.8 (BETA) AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bug in Message Finder - RegEx Options
Hello TB User Discussion List, Searching for all occurrences of (?-i)F(?i)unction, the Message Finder returns occurrences of function which is not a match. [Yes, I am selecting match.] OTOH, the Find Text dialog works just fine! -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.96.8 (BETA) AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Deterioration over time of Export Text
Hello TB User Discussion List and TB Beta List, I started keeping a log of all message filtering back on July 29, 2003. I did this by adding an Export the message action. I use default settings (Plain text and Append to existing file). For the Template I have (for this group): %Date=yymmddhhnnss tbudl This produces a line for each message containing a time stamp followed by a short name for the last filter the mail went through. So from 2003 through most of August 5, 2006, it had one entry per line for each message filtered. But late in the day of 8/5/06, it began double spacing all of the lines! I changed nothing, except probably the version of The Bat!. Then on February 5, 2007, all hell broke lose! Looking at the last double spaced entry and the first wacky format: 070205160609 spam^M ^M [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is how my editor (Gvim) displays it. It uses unix format for this mess (lines end with a LF) and ^M is how it shows the CR. The ^@ is a hex 00. This looks like some style of Unicode. If the above is confusing, here's how those two lines look in a hex dump: 0033 8d50 0d 0a 30 37 30 32 30 35 31 36 30 36 30 39 20 73 ..070205160609 s 0033 8d60 70 61 6d 0d 0a 0d 0a 30 00 37 00 30 00 32 00 30 pam0.7.0.2.0 0033 8d70 00 35 00 31 00 36 00 31 00 31 00 35 00 31 00 20 .5.1.6.1.1.5.1. 0033 8d80 00 73 00 70 00 61 00 6d 00 0d 00 0a 00 0d 0a 30 .s.p.a.m...0 I can easily convert my 200,000 line file back to normal. But how can I get The Bat! to write Plain Text files again? I have copied the beta group because I believe the February change to wacky text was in a beta release. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.96.8 (BETA) AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Raw or Cooked?
On Sun 4-Feb-07 10:38pm -0600, Roger Phillips wrote: Monday, February 5, 2007, 4:10:31 AM, among other things, you wrote: BM BTW, I haven't received any mail from TBUDL or TBBeta in BM 2007 - some glitch in the mailing lists has apparently BM unsubscribed me. BM BM Am I up-to-date (see below my sig - and yes I know Vista is BM out :-) No. See my signature below. There is also 3.96.01 but not very good and several correspondents have reverted to 3.95.8; I did not download it because of the adverse reports -- the bad news had already been sent to Ritlabs! Thank you Roger. My question wasn't very clear - in that I know I have the latest release (I checked the web site) but was wondering about a new beta. Despite the fact that I asked a beta question outside the beta group - included with a question for the general community (and Ritlabs specifically) - you came through with my answer - a very good answer too! This is one of the things I like about The Bat! community. Perceptive and forgiving members :-) I'm glad to be subscribed again. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Raw or Cooked?
On Mon 5-Feb-07 8:21am -0600, Roger Phillips wrote: Monday, February 5, 2007, 10:23:44 AM, among other things, you wrote: BM Thank you Roger. My question wasn't very clear - in that I BM know I have the latest release (I checked the web site) but BM was wondering about a new beta. Your signature shows that you are using 3.95.6 -- NOT 3.95.8 :( Correct. But the Ritlabs download page shows the latest version as: The Bat! v3.95.06 Professional Christmas Edition 27-Dec-2006 That's what I have. Am I looking at an outdated page? 3.96.01 is a beta. Yes, that's what is being discussed on the beta list. I'll pick up beta testing when the next one comes out and appears to be fairly solid. Thanks again. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Raw or Cooked?
On Mon 5-Feb-07 7:32am -0600, Thomas Fernandez wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:10:31 -0600 GMT (05/02/2007, 09:10 +0700 GMT), Bill McCarthy wrote: BM Does The Bat! use raw or cooked keyboard input to handle BM things like Alt-Ctrl? I tried to google for raw or cooked keyboard input but only got stuff I didn't understand. OK, different ways of handling the input by the OS, that's all I can say. On Mon 5-Feb-07 7:32am -0600, Thomas Fernandez wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:10:31 -0600 GMT (05/02/2007, 09:10 +0700 GMT), Bill McCarthy wrote: BM Does The Bat! use raw or cooked keyboard input to handle BM things like Alt-Ctrl? I tried to google for raw or cooked keyboard input but only got stuff I didn't understand. OK, different ways of handling the input by the OS, that's all I can say. Thomas, this came up when I asked a question on the Vim mailing list (Vim is my editor and comes with many 'nix systems). I had noticed that Gvim (the graphical version) does not map such key combos as Alt-Ctrl-letter. Some thought it was because Windows was grabbing the keystrokes. I pointed out that The Bat! could work with such key combos so this wasn't a Windows problem. A response I received was: I don't know how TheBat! gets its special-key keyboard input (raw or cooked for instance). IIUC, Vim uses cooked keyboard input, which is more portable across platforms and keyboard layouts, but is less powerful for complex key combinations since there is an additional software layer between the keyboard hardware and the program -- and that can conceivably lead to loss of information if the user presses a key combo not foreseen (or discarded as not meaningful) by the translation software. This is why I asked if The Bat! used raw or cooked keyboard handling. I am hoping that it uses cooked with APIs that can handle all combinations with Alt, Ctrl and Shift. Maybe that's not possible - I don't know. Can you explain briefly - in layman's terms - what the effect for the user is? As the Vim user mentioned, the cooked keyboard handling uses an addition software layer - a higher level API call. The higher the level, the lower the flexibility to the user. For example, I can't define a map to Alt-Ctrl-z in Gvim, but I can easily define Alt-Ctrl-z as a Bat! shortcut. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Can you explain briefly - in layman's terms - what the effect for the user is? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Raw or Cooked?
Hello TB User Discussion List, Does The Bat! use raw or cooked keyboard input to handle things like Alt-Ctrl? BTW, I haven't received any mail from TBUDL or TBBeta in 2007 - some glitch in the mailing lists has apparently unsubscribed me. Am I up-to-date (see below my sig - and yes I know Vista is out :-) -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editors - external?
On Wed 6-Dec-06 5:12pm -0600, Robert Bull wrote: This is my first post here using TB itself, so please bear with me. I was a point on Fidonet for over ten years, using the mighty GoldED message editor (I'm one of the few - the proud - the REGISTERED). GoldED has a basic text editor built-in, rather like TB's. But it also allowed you to define your own text editor, run as a child process, feeding the editor with the properly-quoted and reflowed message. I dislike Windows-style editors. Having grown up with DOS, I prefer WordStar-style. Does TB have any way of defining an external text editor, so I can continue using my favourite one? I have on occasion copied a message via the clipboard and edited it outside TB, before returning the modified text the same way. I tended to get shark's teeth formatting, whether I used straight paste or paste formatted. What should I look out for here, please? When I want to view a long email or program snippet from my editor, I use a Hot Key to Run External Program. I have it run my editor on the file %1 and call a macro to strip the headers and everything at or below the cut mark. (If I need any of that, I can get it back with an undo.) I use PowerPro to copy the text of a reply to the clipboard and start my edit with a command to paste the clipboard. I also have a simple macro in the editor to finish up by copying the contents of its buffer to the clipboard and close down discarding the file being edited. All I have to do is bring focus back to the TB! replay (which is still highlighted) and press Ctrl-v and sent it. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.86.8 ALPHA (beta) BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unread Watched Mail on the MailTicker?
Hello TB User Discussion List, There is no setting for this in the Watched folder properties. Is there another way to make this happen? I don't see any way of triggering a filter by the action of a message reference being added to the Watched folder. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.85.03 BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: regarding Outlook
On Wed 6-Sep-06 3:10pm -0600, Marten Gallagher wrote: could i have both the bat! and outlook express receiving the same email. Yes: both programs have the facility to collect mail but not delete it from the server. So you would set one to do that - collect email using that one first; then collect with the other which would delete the email from the server. An alternative, which may be simpler to administer, is to set OE to not delete from the server and set TB to keep mail on the server for, say, 7 days. That way there would be no concern of which mail client was used first. As long as OE was used at least once per week, both clients would receive all the mail. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.85.02 BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message List Tab All
Hello TB User Discussion List, What is it? I can't edit, close or delete it. It doesn't show up in Manage View Modes or Manage Tabs. Its useless. How do I get rid of it? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.85.02 BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Watched no longer works
Hello TB User Discussion List, If I tried to mark a message as watched, I am asked to create a new folder - no choice to use my existing folder. Also, from my * Watched * folder, I cannot unselect messages that were previously marked as watched. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.85.02 BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message List Tab All
On Tue 5-Sep-06 5:05pm -0600, Marek Mikus wrote: Wednesday, September 6, 2006, Bill McCarthy wrote: What is it? I can't edit, close or delete it. It doesn't show up in Manage View Modes or Manage Tabs. Its useless. How do I get rid of it? this tab is pre-defined and when You create new tabs, You will need it. What is problem with it? If You do not tabs, disable them in View menu. I use tabs but don't have any need for a tab that is undefined. It seems foolish to have a pre-defined tab that can't be modified with column selection, filtering, threading, etc. I don't mind having a tab called All if I have some control over it. Otherwise, it's just a waste of space. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.85.02 BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message List Tab All
On Tue 5-Sep-06 5:27pm -0600, Marek Mikus wrote: Wednesday, September 6, 2006, Bill McCarthy wrote: I use tabs but don't have any need for a tab that is undefined. It seems foolish to have a pre-defined tab that can't be modified with column selection, filtering, threading, etc. tab All uses setting of selected folder, what You set for this folder, that will be displayed when You select All tab. Thanks for the explanation! I have my own All Mail tab that shows all mail read or unread. If I'm on that tab and switch folders, the folder settings take over, but that tab is still in focus (even though not being used). It would be far more logical to cause the All tab to take focus when a folder is changed. Currently, if I'm on All Mail and switch folders, I must click on another tab then click on All Mail to get that view. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.85.02 BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Release....
On Mon 4-Sep-06 2:43pm -0600, Simon wrote: The current Beta cycle seem to be closed Pro http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-85-01.msi Home http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-85-01.msi Very interesting. There have been no announcements and help / check for update reports nothing available. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.81.18 RC2 BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
On Wed 23-Aug-06 3:43pm -0600, Dave Goodman wrote: I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives but it is missing a lot. FWIW, I installed Antispamsniper earlier this month. As of right now, with 1520 messages received, the error rate is 0.72%. I'm also using 60 as the spam score. Is that with the commercial or free version? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.81.15 Beta BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit! Confusion
Hello TB Users and Beta Lists, I had been using Bayesit! for a few years with fairly good success on my laptop. About two months ago, my laptop developed a hardware problem and I switched to my wife's desktop (XP Pro SP2). I have been training Bayesit! from scratch and have had it catch nothing :-( Turning on logging, I discovered that Bayesit! appeared a bit confused. From my log file: C:\data\TheBat\Mail\bayesitbase\spamdict.bye C:\data\TheBat\Mail\bayesitbase\nspamdict.bye Spam frequency dictionary: Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost. Non-spam frequency dictionary: Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost. Dictionary didn't load. Continue in training mode... No current recalculation session. Silent exiting... There is, of course, no such bayesitbase subdirectory. Looking at the Bayesit! configuration (under Basic filter's options), I noticed that I had browsed to c:\data\TheBat\Mail\bayesit for the working directory. When I manually added the trailing backslash, the log file showed me that it could now find both spamdict.bye and nspamdict.bye. That was just a few days ago and Bayesit! has still not found any spam (I guess training is just starting now). However, looking at the Information page is see: Spam frequency dictionary: C:\data\TheBat\Mail\bayesit\\base\spamdict.bye Size: 1386 letters. Capacity: 81940 words. Non-spam frequency dictionary: C:\data\TheBat\Mail\bayesit\\base\nspamdict.bye Size: 13135 letters. Capacity: 649383 words. Current active dictionary: Currently active dictionary contains 155617 words. Status: OK Please notice the '\\' in those filenames. Anyone else seeing these problems? I am currently running the most recent announced beta, although I do not believe this is a beta issue - so I am including both mailing lists. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.81.07 Beta BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit! Confusion - K9 alternative
On Thu 13-Jul-06 2:33pm -0600, Marten Gallagher wrote: I tried BayesIT again recently and found it getting things totally wrong - it ended up 'refusing' to classify anything in one email account. After taking advice from this list a while back - I am now using K9 with absolutely wonderfully, accurate, consistent, and so easily configurable results. Thanks for the advice. Does it work with X-Ray? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.81.07 Beta BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.61.14 Watch Failure
On Sun 23-Oct-05 12:02pm -0500, MAU wrote: With the latest build I can neither add watches or remove existing watches. My watch folder is not being recognized - the only choice from Specials is to create a new watch folder :-( You are using a beta. You should report this in the TBBeta list and perhaps open a BT report. Sorry list - I sent my post to the wrong list. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.61.14 Watch Failure
Hello TB User Discussion List, With the latest build I can neither add watches or remove existing watches. My watch folder is not being recognized - the only choice from Specials is to create a new watch folder :-( -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Thu 16-Jun-05 8:21pm -0500, Darrin wrote: I thought that all mail from users in my address book will go into inbox-known automatically. Doesnt seem to work. Is there something I must do to get this working? What do you mean by doesn't seem to work? Are mails going into inbox-known that are from senders not in your address book? Or are mails from senders in your address book not going in? If it is the latter, run Test Filters on a mail that should have gone there. Is it going somewhere else? If nothing is being triggered, make sure there is a sender address that is really in your address book and the known filter is active. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.27 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Thu 16-Jun-05 9:20pm -0500, Darrin wrote: Thursday, June 16, 2005, 7:06:15 PM, you wrote: If it is the latter, run Test Filters on a mail that should have gone there. Is it going somewhere else? If nothing is being triggered, make sure there is a sender address that is really in your address book and the known filter is active. It is the latter. I happen to look in the sorting office and there is no filters for known senders. So I guess I have to create one? It one time it was created automatically. It was called known (without the quotes). You are not really missing anything important - I have mine disabled. I created my own called known with put messages not with me as a sender (I'm in the address book) AND with the sender in the address book. The actions is to move to Inbox-known and it is active. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.27 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Turn off number replying for specific users?
On Tue 14-Jun-05 10:50pm -0500, Darrin wrote: I see the replycounter macro. I would like to have it used to turn off the reply counter is this folder. How do I set the macro to turn it off? Use the SINGLERE macro. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.25 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?
On Fri 3-Jun-05 2:37pm -0500, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: Fredrik Bergström writes: I had this problem on 3.5, but now on 3.5.25 it seems to be working again, if I press F9, Edit / Select All and then Edit / Copy I get a copy of all the text. I thought 3.5 was the latest version. Continuing its newly established tradition of releasing unstable versions with missing features, Ritlabs announced yesterday morning: New version of The Bat!, 3.5.25, is available to download at http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php snip It was mailed to everyone on the announcement list. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.25 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?
On Fri 3-Jun-05 3:02pm -0500, Allie Martin wrote: On 03/06/2005 02:46 PM -0500, you wrote: Continuing its newly established tradition of releasing unstable versions with missing features, Ritlabs announced yesterday morning: What missing features are you referring to?? Here are just a few: Watch Replies In has not been fully functioning since 3.5.00. One needs to keep an older thebat.exe handy to mark new messages. 3.5.25 will then find new replies but requires manually refreshing. Many shortcuts are not possible with the new customization. An example is creating a shortcut for displaying only unread messages (Alt VDU). The help feature is back at 3.0 still - i.e. the help file for 3.5.xx is missing :-( Entering a folder with no previously read message - such as the Junk mail folder - shows no message in the auto-view window. So, instead of using my hotkey to delete mail from the store and the server, I need to first change my focus to the message list - either my having to click on a message or a multi keystroke such as Tab followed by up-arrow. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.25 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.5: View | Toolbars | Customization Bug and Missing Items
On Mon 16-May-05 5:56pm -0500, Mic Cullen wrote: At 20:32 [GMT+0200] on Monday May 16 (actual time - 2:32am on Tuesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: This feature appears to have been added at the last minute without any significant testing. MAU Don't say that in TBBeta list or someone may kill you ;-) Well, it'd hardly be the first time that sentiment had been expressed :-) Thanks for responding - MAU's message didn't arrive here :-( MAU: If there was significant testing of the keyboard shortcuts, then either the testers missed some obvious flaws or Ritlabs ignored their suggestions. Having said that, I'm grateful to both Ritlabs and the beta testers for attempting to improve the product. -- Best regards, Bill 3.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?
Hello TB User Discussion List, Some of my shortcuts are missing since installing 3.5. The help file states that shortcuts are accessible with View | Edit Shortcuts. I cannot find this. Where is it hidden? -- Best regards, Bill 3.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.5: Watch Reples In ?
Hello TB User Discussion List, This feature appears to be not working in 3.5. I had a watched folder. However, when I attempted to watch a message, the only choice I had was to create a new folder. I played along and added a new folder with the same name as the old folder - that gave me two :-) I deleted both of these chat folders and started over. That sort of worked - a folder was created under the folder from which I was reading. I moved it to be with my other virtual folders - I couldn't remove the watched email. I deleted that folder and created a new chat folder. Watch Replies In can't find it :-( Is this feature working for anyone? If so, what's the trick? -- Best regards, Bill 3.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?
On Sun 15-May-05 2:16am -0500, Natasha V Pearce wrote: BM Some of my shortcuts are missing since BM installing 3.5. The help file states BM that shortcuts are accessible with View | Edit Shortcuts. BM I cannot find this. Where is it hidden? You can do this via View | Toolbars | Customise. HTH. Thanks Natasha, since I didn't want to customize any toolbars, I didn't look there :) -- Best regards, Bill 3.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.5: View | Toolbars | Customization Bug and Missing Items
Hello TB User Discussion List, This feature appears to have been added at the last minute without any significant testing. Using this feature more than once in a session usually results in an empty white box after View | Toolbars - cannot even get to customization. Many items are missing. Even the ability to add a shortcut to View | Toolbars | Customize :( Sure, I can do an Alt-VTC - unless the little white box stops access. I was able to get most of my shortcuts implemented - none ported from my previous implementation (the last real beta before Ritlabs went Alpha in the Beta testing group). The problem was always missing items in the new tool. -- Best regards, Bill 3.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %TOFNAME
On Sat 12-Feb-05 8:55pm -0600, Robin Anson wrote: Hmm, don't know why that happens. It doesn't to me - did you edit the QT at all? I have not tried that macro, but it appears CRs are added in several of the last few lines. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
On Thu 27-Jan-05 5:09pm -0600, Jeanny House wrote: Thursday, January 27, 2005, 3:47:10 PM, Tony Boom wrote: JH How do I make it so that just messages from her to me are JH filtered into her folder? Tony Send your filter to this list with her Tony name, your name, as they appear in Tony the to and from feilds and the folder Tony you want them to go to and it should Tony be easier for someone on here to work out for you, BeginFilter Name: Michelle Active: 1 Source: \\NWA Mail\Inbox Target: \\NWA Mail\Inbox\Michelle Filtering Strings: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender | Yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Recipient| Yes Sorry, Jeanny, your filter won't work. Try this: Header field From contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field To contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field From does not match [,;] AND Header field To does not match [,;] AND Header does not match ^cc: Note, in case you're not familiar with RegEx, the [,;] pattern looks for any comma or semi colon in the field. This FS won't work if you or your assistant have those characters in their names. The last condition rejects when any header line starts with cc: (case doesn't matter in the current release). -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
On Thu 27-Jan-05 10:38pm -0600, Greg Strong wrote: Either I'm doing something wrong, or the filter doesn't work under test. Here is a copy paste of my test filter which is based upon above: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [35CBF4D2.01C504D5.0FDD25AE.7C37F86A] Name: Test Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain_1.com\0D\0A0`7`From`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`5`3`^cc:\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGreg\5CPersonal IsContinue IsActive Ignore endFilter You missed one of the conditions. AND Header field To does not match [,;] Also, did you move the new filter to the top for testing? I'm sure Greg knows this but others may not - it's really easy to test with the Test filters feature. I created an email from heremail and to myemail and queued it in the Outbox. Testing it, it triggered. I added an address in the cc field, or adding another address in either the to or from field caused the filter to fail to trigger. You're right, Greg, I didn't notice Jeanny is using an old version of TB!. After you fix your filter, if it still fails, please show us what failed. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
On Thu 27-Jan-05 11:32pm -0600, Greg Strong wrote: Bill, why did you need the condition below? AND Header field From does not match [,;] To catch an email sent from multiple addresses. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
On Thu 27-Jan-05 11:51pm -0600, Greg Strong wrote: I'm sure Greg knows this but others may not - it's really easy to test with the Test filters feature. Actually I don't. Please inform me! To see what filter actions would be taken, without actually taking them, you can use the Test filters feature. Let's look at your input filters. Right click on any message. Choose Test filters from the drop down menu. Make sure only incoming mail is checked and click OK. You'll be rewarded with a dialog that shows how your incoming filters would deal with that message when received. Enjoy! BTW, Jeanny should be able to modify the filter I gave - on her system. I had a similar one in 1.62r. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Xray - How to filter?
On Wed 19-Jan-05 12:29am -0600, Robin Anson wrote: What header to you want to add and why can't you do it with TB!? One example is X-Mailer - it can't be modified in TB!. The simplest approach is to eliminate it in TB! and add your own in Xray. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: birthay bug?
On Tue 4-Jan-05 5:07pm -0600, Roelof Otten wrote: I just got a reminder today. It said the birthday is TODAY. Actually the birthday is tomorrow. It's not WAD, it's a bug. I got a reminder today too. TB was running and I got a reminder at 5 January 0:00 hour Birthday was set for 5 January, so I guess there's something more the matter than birthday warnings a day early. Probably it has something to do with timezones and the like as I see that you're at GMT -0600, while I am at +0100. I seem to recall a similar issue with the scheduler. Indeed it does, see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3427 It doesn't seem that hard to fix, but it's received no attention from the development team. I'll copy 9val - he usually gets things done. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.10 DEBUG X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: birthay bug?
On Wed 29-Dec-04 7:40am -0600, Thomas Fernandez wrote: On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 07:27:48 -0600 GMT (29/12/2004, 20:27 +0700 GMT), Bill McCarthy wrote: BM What it does incorrectly is remind me on the day before - not on BM the actually date. So to send a note, you have to remember that BM you were reminded yesterday :-( I do believe that's by design. You are reminded a day before the event. I just got a reminder today. It said the birthday is TODAY. Actually the birthday is tomorrow. It's not WAD, it's a bug. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.9 (New Year) X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: birthay bug?
On Wed 29-Dec-04 2:34am -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, i've noticed that the bat birthday reminders are off.. and the reason they are is because the year that you set their birthday does not change. So today, my friends birthday is 12/30 but since I put the birthday in in 2003, the date in the field is 12/30/2003. There is indeed a bug (or odd feature) in TB!. It reminds the day before a birthday - therefore it's always off one day. You will be reminded of your infant friend's first birthday on the 29th. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.8 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: birthay bug?
On Wed 29-Dec-04 5:44am -0600, Peter Meyns wrote: It doesn't matter for The Bat!, because she is supposed to remind you every other year Not confirmed here, it reminds me every year - not every other year. What it does incorrectly is remind me on the day before - not on the actually date. So to send a note, you have to remember that you were reminded yesterday :-( -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.8 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: birthay bug?
On Wed 29-Dec-04 10:40am -0600, Peter Ouwehand wrote: Have a look at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3427 Thanks Peter, I've added a note and look forward to this eventually getting fixed. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.8 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expanding threads
On Sun 26-Dec-04 2:54pm -0600, Peter Hampf wrote: and I am missing urgently a hotkey to expand a single thread while you are reading a message *inside* this thread (ctrl+ only works from the current message down) and also one to collapse a thread (again, ctrl- only works from the level of the currently marked message). Also a hotkey to collapse ALL threads as an opposite to ctrl* would be very useful. To collapse all, use shiftctrl* The other two requests, AFAIK, aren't implemented. Of course you could do the following: Expand single thread while inside: shiftctrl*ctrl+altleft arrow (but all other threads are collapsed) Collapse a thread while inside: shiftctrl* (again, all other threads are collapsed, but you're left at the top of the thread you were in) -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.7 (4-th Adventus) X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter help needed -- incoming/outgoing
On Tue 14-Dec-04 9:10pm -0600, Munango-Keewati wrote: I'm trying to create a filter that will move both incoming and outgoing messages to a single folder, based on the name of the sender or recipient. That is, I'm trying to collect both messages to and from one individual in the same folder for future reference. Incoming messages work fine, but outgoing still go to the Sent Mail folder. Here's the filter (edited to conceal real names and email addresses): TB! can't do that. You should start off by reading about filters - there's plenty of good references on the WWW. Why do you feel you need to do this in a single filter? Once you have a basic idea about what filters are, you will see that it is a trivial task using two filters - one for incoming and one for outgoing. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.6 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending mails from other applications / address book templates not working
On Fri 26-Nov-04 11:57am -0600, Ralph wrote: @Friday, November 26, 2004, 17:58 you wrote: Your app call can always specify any template you like. How do i accomplish that? For example, my new mail template for my family AB group is: %include=c:\data\TheBat\New_AB_Family.qt%- If I want to use that template with /MAIL, I would simply add the parameter T=c:\data\TheBat\New_AB_Family.qt -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.8 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.5 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending mails from other applications / address book templates not working
On Fri 26-Nov-04 5:39am -0600, Ralph wrote: when i send mails with TB! from other apps, the adress book templates don't work According to the docs, if you don't specify a template to use, it is the standard template of the target folder or the target account. Your app call can always specify any template you like. If that's not adequate for you, mail a wish list request. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.8 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.5 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter question
On Mon 22-Nov-04 4:33pm -0600, Luc wrote: i've made a filter that moves a send message into a separate send folder. The purpose is to have mail send to a certain person to be moved in a folder that i have created for that person (something like john doe, send messages). The condition is recipient contains mail address . So far so good. Here comes the tricky part: sometimes i need to send mail to a bunch of co-workers(including that person) and i want those messages to be excluded, in other words in that case the send mail should not end up in that special folder. That same person also belongs to a group and if i mail that group, it should also not be moved to that folder. Which condition(s) should i add to the filter? Assume John Doe's address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Header field - To - contains - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND - Header field - To - does not match - , AND - Header field - CC - does not contain - @ -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.6 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.5 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter hickups
On Fri 19-Nov-04 6:32am -0600, Gerard wrote: I have some strange non repeatable problems with the filtering of emails. I get mails that normally filter to a folder being left in my inbox. Confirmed here. It doesn't happen often, but it's an annoyance. Yesterday, it happened while I was sending a mail (while receiving mail). I wonder if this could be a synchronization issue? On other occasions, I've noticed that the problem occurred when incoming mail triggered a filter which forwards the mail as an attachment to my office. It does not appear to happen all the time. In all cases, the problem is fixed by simply re- filtering the Inbox. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.6 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.4 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FullFolderName macro
On Wed 10-Nov-04 11:15am -0600, Thomas Fernandez wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:36:29 -0600 GMT (09/11/2004, 01:36 +0700 GMT), Bill McCarthy wrote: BM Please Ritlabs, give us a FullFolderName macro!!! If you put this into the wishlist, I'll second it (if you post the full URL of that wishlist entry). Nothing to do with editing message subjects, but I would like it for my print template. What it has to do with editing messages, with an external editor, is that to put the message back to the proper place requires the full folder name. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.6 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edit Message Subject
On Mon 31-Dec-79 6:00pm -0600, Michael Acklin wrote: I found this out on this list. Very handy way to do it. Don't think there is another way. Moving the message to the Outbox and then moving it back are a rather clumsy approach. It nicer, IMHO, to simply press a hotkey, edit your message in your favorite editor, and save/close. The only obstacle, is TB!'s lack of a macro for the full folder name. If you edit List\The Bat, the FolderName macro only returns The Bat. If you import to TB! with that folder name, you message ends up in the Inbox. So you still have to move it - but only once. Please Ritlabs, give us a FullFolderName macro!!! -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.6 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edit Message Subject
On Mon 8-Nov-04 1:19pm -0600, Paul Jansen wrote:
Moving the message to the Outbox and then moving it
back are a rather clumsy approach. It nicer, IMHO, to
simply press a hotkey, edit your message in your
favorite editor, and save/close.
The only obstacle, is TB!'s lack of a macro for the
full folder name. If you edit List\The Bat, the
FolderName macro only returns The Bat. If you import
to TB! with that folder name, you message ends up in
the Inbox. So you still have to move it - but only
once.
Can you expand on how you do this with a hotkey?
With a hotkey triggered filter and a simple batch file.
Here's a filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [1F9E637A.01C49379.16A9F46F.36DB8630]
Name: Revise\20Message
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`21\0D\0A}
ExportMessage Kludges OverwriteExist FmtUnix filename C:\5Cpad\5Ctemp\5Cedit.txt
RunExternal RunHidden CmdLine c:\5Cutil\5Crevmsg.cmd folder
\5C\5CBill\5CLists\5Cc.l.f
Delete
IsActive
IsHotkey
IsHotkeyOnly
endFilter
And here's the batch file:
REM The following line starts my editor:
%vv%\gvim.exe c:\pad\temp\edit.txt
REM Now TB! puts it in the Inbox:
c:\progra~1\thebat~1\thebat.exe /importf=Inbox;X;IN=c:\pad\temp\edit.txt
--
Best regards,
Bill
Beta 3.0.2.6 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Re: X-Ray?
Time to review your template? You're removing the space between Re: and the subject. Notice how mine puts that space back in. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.6 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of Resent-from?
On Sun 7-Nov-04 2:41am -0400, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Martin pointed out that you're tweaking the mail in a way it is not meant to be tweaked I know that. I don't care. I was looking for a solution, not a lecture. As I believe I pointed out, it's a bit silly to prevent the change of a header when you can change the contents of the mail. Anyway, I found and posted a way around the problem. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically changing the subject
On Sun 7-Nov-04 12:30pm -0400, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: 08-Nov-2004 04:20, you wrote: Is it possible to automatically strip out [List name] when I receive e-mail? While receiving - not with TheBat alone. You need an external program for that. Maybe www.xrayapp.com will work for you. This has been a TB! feature request for years. While using xray is good advice, the job can be done without it. Basically, you export the message, delete it, manipulate the exported message and import it back to TB! Missing from TB! is a FullFolderName macro. FolderName does not give enough information for importing to non-root folders. If one's TB! folders are uniquely named, it's possible to write a mapping so importing to the proper folder is possible. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically changing the subject
On Sun 7-Nov-04 1:36pm -0400, Mica Mijatovic wrote: But I don't know is it good to call it automatically Why? There is no manual intervention involved. An incoming filter calls for deletion, exporting and invoking the batch file or program to import. How much more automatic can you get? -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically changing the subject
On Sun 7-Nov-04 1:36pm -0600, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Yes. And then, one of users was too impatient and made XRay I still have my xray files. They appear to be configured correctly - they worked fine on another computer. In Xray in-mail is configured for port 110, local port 1. In TB!, I tried just changing the port to 1 - no mail. I also tried changing the server to local - still no mail. What else needs to be done in TB! ? -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically changing the subject
On Sun 7-Nov-04 7:27pm -0600, Bill McCarthy wrote: I also tried changing the server to local - still no mail. That should be 'localhost' - that works just fine :-) -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to get rid of Resent-from?
Hello TB User Discussion List, One annoyance of redirect is that it adds a Resent-from header field. In my case, I'm usually redirecting things, for my wife's attention, to her. It ends up improperly filtered on her end - because it looks like it's from me (an X-Sender is generated). I've tried to get rid of this TB! created problem by writing a QT to be executed inside the redirected mail. I tried both: %SetHeader(Resent-from,) and %SetHeader(Resent-from:,) [I've defined this header field using the ':' for the Display as field, and without the ':' in the RFC field. I'm not sure which one SetHeader needs ;-( ] It doesn't work. The annoying header field continues to appear. How is this done? -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XMP 0.9.6 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell Checker Request
Hello TB User Discussion List, Two minor enhancements would make the spell checker more user friendly: (1) Add a `Mail anyway` dialog to `Cancel`. As it is, when one mails, say source code, with many spelling errors one has to either turn off spell checking or click on `Ignore all` many times. (2) Have an option, perhaps under `Check before Send/Queue` that disables the `OK` dialog at the end of spell checking. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of Resent-from?
On Sat 6-Nov-04 2:48pm -0400, Martin Webster wrote: snipped Thanks for that totally useless response ;-) -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of Resent-from?
On Sat 6-Nov-04 2:24pm -0400, Bill McCarthy wrote: One annoyance of redirect is that it adds a Resent-from header field. Here's one way to get around it: Queue the send. Then open the mail from the Outbox, invoke the QT from the body, and then send. The Resent-from header field is removed. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell Checker Request
On Sat 6-Nov-04 6:25pm -0400, Roelof Otten wrote: Why not set the spell checker for automatic checking, it'll give you some coloured lines, but it won't bother you with dialogues. It is set for automatic checking. That doesn't stop the dialog OK box. I type fast enough that I often plan to go back but don't always make it before clicking on Send - that's why I have `Check before Send/Queue` set also. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of Resent-from?
On Sat 6-Nov-04 5:05pm -0400, Martin Webster wrote: Bill McCarthy [BM], wrote: BM Thanks for that totally useless response ;-) If you request help don't knock it when received whether useful to you or not. You provided zero assistance. Your info was useless in solving the problem. Get over it. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.5 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Mon 25-Oct-04 10:01pm -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: Can any of you offer a suggestion as to why this filter doesn't work? Can't confirm. I copied and pasted your filter and only changed the target folder to one of my subfolders. Next, I sent myself a message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] The test mail was moved properly to my target folder. Are you sure that your folder exists? Try this. Right click on a message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and select Test Filters. Check Incoming mail, uncheck everything else and click OK. What does the dialog say? -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Tue 26-Oct-04 6:55am -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: It says, Processed by: New Rule. Actions performed: What does that tell us? Does the fact that nothing follows the Actions performed: portion indicate that no actions were performed, which is consistent with what I am seeing? If you perform you own test on your copy of my filter, do you get the same message that I get or something else? What that tells us is that your filter is not being triggered at all. Instead, another filter called New Rule is being triggered - which performs no action - and no additional filters are being triggered. In my test, the window specifies that my test filter is triggered and the move to folder action is performed - which it indeed is. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Tue 26-Oct-04 11:13am -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: As I'm sure you have already seen, I did discover the New Role filter and deleted it. Once that was done, my filter (and a couple of others) performed as expected. I have now read the thread and am confused by your comment in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have checked continue processing despite the fact that this filter is the last in my list of filters. I don't have any common filters. The results are the same. Whether or not you checked continue processing, the fact that your New Rule filter is the last filter AND it performs no action means that your filters should not perform any differently whether New Rule is present or not. It appears to make no sense that deleting solved any problem. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Tue 26-Oct-04 3:42pm -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: Does that clear up the sequence? Yes :-) I'm glad your filters are now working as expected. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help restoring TheBat!
On Sat 23-Oct-04 4:42am -0400, Roelof Otten wrote: Next time, save TB's registry settings. After installing you don't run TB, but restore your registry settings and then run TB, you'll find that it 'remembers' your accounts in that case. Like many of you, I regularly backup my program and data trees as well was the RIT reg tree - all to an external drive. If I have to reinstall the OS or move to another computer, do I really have to install TheBat! at all? In other words, after I restore the backups of my program and mail trees, and click on the reg file to restore the registry entries, doesn't TB! run fine without being reinstalled? Or is there other secret things that the installation performs or stores? BTW, when I moved from NC to TX a few months ago, I had a new laptop shipped to my new office. I had only the mail store on CD. I downloaded and installed TB! and, IIRC, had to set up an account during installation - I picked Bill - the same main account as stored in my mail store. When TB! came up, I changed the mail directory (Options/Preferences/System), shut down TB! and restarted. All 9 of my accounts were back to normal - although I sure had of lot of fine tuning to do to get my customizations back - but that was a lot easier than flying back to NC to pick up the reg file I forgot to send myself :-) -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bug Report: /importf=The Bat!
Hello TB User Discussion List, When I attempt to import mail to any folder that is not directly off an account, the mail ends up in the Inbox. It should be finding a subfolder with a valid name. On my system, The Bat! folder is located under the Lists folder. Obviously, I can write /importf=Lists\The Bat!. That works. The problem is that I'm writing this stuff from without TB! using macros. I can get the correct user name with %AccountName. However %FolderName only returns the rightmost part of the actual folder name. The bug is that you can't use /importf without a full folder name AND TB! macros don't appear to provide a macro that will delivery the full name. An Export Message template that contains: /importu=%AccountName;f=%FolderName;... to write a batch file should actually import mail to the correct folder when that batch file is executed. Perhaps there should be a %FullFolderName macro? -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bug? Failure of Macros to Expand
Hello TB User Discussion List, I've posted this to the beta list, but didn't get a response. So I thought I'd try here :-) Attempting to pass the folder name (or any other macro) to a batch file, the macro is not expanding. For example, a filter with the Execute action and command line: c:\test_bat.cmd %FolderName receives %FolderName - not expanded to the actual folder name. Is there some trick to get the macro to expand? Or is this a bug? -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug? Failure of Macros to Expand
On Thu 21-Oct-04 7:16pm -0400, Peter Ouwehand wrote: I assume that was meant to be 'Run external action'. Comments in that pop-up clearly state its possible to use macros to pass message properties as parameters. Yes. A work-a-round was posted in TBBETA. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
On Wed 20-Oct-04 2:51pm -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this bug with the same version that you have right now I suggest you to upgrade to a more recent version of TB! He has the latest version of TB! I certainly wouldn't recommend that buggy beta to anyone not on the beta list - I've tested it, written a bug report and, like many others, backed off to the release version. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: baeysit plugin
On Sat 16-Oct-04 7:58pm -0400, Luc wrote: where can i get the bayesit plugin for TB 3? From your sig I can see that you already have it :-) All you have to do is install it. Go to Options/Preferences. Click on Anti-Spam then click Add. You'll find it in a subdirectory called BayesIt under the directory containing thebat.exe. You might want to search through the beta group's mailing list for more info on setup and training. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: List of fixes in 3.1
On Thu 14-Oct-04 12:34pm -0400, Lynn wrote: I was trying to find the BayseIt lists, because I've just upgraded to the new version, which also seems to have upgraded Bayesit, but couldn't find them .. could you refresh my memory? I *know* I've been there before ... You need to create the lists yourself. First go to Options/Preferences/Anti-spam, click on BayesIt! and click Configure. Under Options, put your Working directory someplace different from your BayesIt! program directory - I place mine under Mail as in: c:\data\TheBat\Mail\bayesit Now click OK and choose Rules to create your white and black lists. For example, I specify my moderated lists (such as TB! lists) in my whitelist. I only have a few entries in my blacklist for things I'm sure are always spam. I don't use ignorelist. The white list of kludges is copied, by the program, to this same directory. I've left that alone. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why will this not filter automatically?
On Thu 14-Oct-04 12:59pm -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The filter below will not work autoamtically - it will work no problem if filtered manually. Why? You have the condition: Sender - contains - What are you looking for? -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 3.0.1.33 officially available
On Wed 13-Oct-04 4:35am -0400, Maurice McAdam wrote: Good to see that the latest official version is now available. It's only been released this morning for testing. It will be released as soon as the beta group confirms that they found no show stoppers. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 3.0.1.33 officially available
On Wed 13-Oct-04 8:19am -0400, Bill McCarthy wrote: On Wed 13-Oct-04 4:35am -0400, Maurice McAdam wrote: Good to see that the latest official version is now available. It's only been released this morning for testing. It will be released as soon as the beta group confirms that they found no show stoppers. Sorry, I was wrong. The message I read said it would be released in a few MINUTES - not days. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade cleared Basyit Filter whiteblack lists
On Wed 13-Oct-04 1:44pm -0400, Gerard wrote: I just upgraded to TB! 3.0.1 and found that my Basyit Filter whiteblack files were empty. I backed them up - just in case. However the install was smooth as silk (so far) and both my black and white lists were untouched. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to create a list of messages for printing?
On Wed 6-Oct-04 6:40am -0400, Julia V. Antipina wrote: Need help with the following: lots of messages in INBOX, and I have to somehow create a list of them (fields FROM, TO, TOPIC, DATE) and then print it. Printing out of messages themselves is NOT required. Printing screenshot of the Inbox? No, thanks. ;) Is there any plugins or standard features that can help me? Writing a simple filter that writes to an external file, as Dan suggested, is a good approach if you do this often. Otherwise, you can simply copy and paste to your favorite editor. Mark you messages (cntl-a for all) and copy with cntl-ins. The format of clipboard may surprise you, but most important info is there: msgid to from folder subject date/time size uid? -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1 RC4 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.0 Release - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro for mail format ?
On Sat 2-Oct-04 6:36am -0400, WilWilWil wrote: For private mails, I used an account using Html/PlainText mail format. But for mailing lists, I've an other account (wilwilwil) and I would like using plaintText mail format to be more light and because Html is not helpul in mailinglist. But It's not useful to set it manually for each new mail depending of account. And TB doesn't propose to set mail format by account, it's always for all accounts... Can I set this format with a macro in template of new mail of each account ? Not currently. I use plain text for just about everything. Occasionally I want to, for example, embed a photo in a mail to family. What I've done is assign a shortcut key (Ctrl-H) to Option/Message_Format/HTML_only. This suits my usage perfectly. I wish Outlook (which I MUST use at the office) had this functionality :-( -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1 RC3 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.0 RC2 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro for mail format ?
On Sat 2-Oct-04 5:13pm -0400, Maria Cristina Ramos wrote: On 02 October 2004 at 13:23:12GMT +0100 (which was 13:23 where I live) Anne wrote and made these points on the subject of Macro for mail format ?: A Ermmm isn't AM American English Roelof? Real English English is EN A isn't it? ;) BR, actually. :) On my system, real English is AM. The BR is misnamed - it should be BE for Basterized English :-) -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1 RC3 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.0 RC3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
On Wed 29-Sep-04 6:29am -0400, Thorvald Neumann wrote: Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 12:50, Roelof Otten wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? Indeed it would. A better choice might be: Header field - Subject - match - ^\s*$ Not only does this match empty or blank Subject lines, it also matches mails without a Subject line. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Pro - BayesIt! 0.6.10 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why does this filter not continue?
On Thu 23-Sep-04 12:13pm -0400, Doug Weller wrote: What I hadn't noticed is that at some point I'd parked the messages, and the filters evidently won't move parked messages. I guess that makes sense. I'll have to wait until a post comes in from her to see what happens. As I had mentioned before, you filter works fine. Either move it before the parking filter or add unpark as an action before the move action. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3 Pro - BayesIt! 0.6.7 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt! upgrade
On Mon 20-Sep-04 10:35am -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was also told that the problem is fixed in 0.6.4. Where/how can I get the upgrade to BayesIt? http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit066.rar or if you *really* want 0.6.4 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit064.rar Caution, 0.6.6 is not a full release - it only contains the plugin and the update text file. People first upgrading their BayesIt should first unrar 0.6.5 to their BayesIt folder (right below the folder containing TB's exe) and copy pcre.dll to the parent folder. Then unrar 0.6.6 over 0.6.5. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
