Re: Inbox - Known ??
Hello Raymund, On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:43:45 +0200 GMT (25/Sep/10, 15:43 PM +0700 GMT), Raymund Tump wrote: What's the story with the Inbox - Known folder? RT Well, there should be a Known filter in your sorting office. That RT would move all messages that are from people in your addressbook to RT the known inbox if active. the problem is that only incoming messages and not outgoing messages are caught by the Known filter, so the conversations are not in the same folder and do not thread. There is no known filter for Outgoing messages. RT Nowadays you might want to achieve the same thing with a virtual RT folder and keep all the messages in the inbox. Much better, but you still need to create seperate filters for incoming and outgoing messages. A six years old wishlist item could fix that: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-Known
Generally, [EMAIL PROTECTED] foretold : z How can I get the Inbox-Known to ignor the Reading Confirmation z Request? I believe you can set it in Properties of Inbox-Known : Templates | Over-ride | Ignore -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-Known
Hello, Sunday, June 11, 2006, 7:48:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I put my cursor on Inbox-Known, and go to Account Properties, the Common Folder Properties comes up. In that Properties box, all I get are Options, Templates, Memo and Chat. Under Templates, I only have Save Messages and Cookies. What am I missing? I see you are using version 2. On the latest non-beta version, it's under Templates | Confirmation in the folder's property settings. Here's a screenshot (68k): http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/613/rc16ch.jpg -- Scott Moorman Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Jeff, Saturday, June 18, 2005, 1:18:07 AM, you wrote: The condition is: Address Book Contains Sender Action is: Move To The Folder (folder name) Great! Thank you much :) -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Darrin, On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:20:24 -0700 GMT (17/06/2005, 09:20 +0700 GMT), Darrin wrote: D It is the latter. I happen to look in the sorting office and there is D no filters for known senders. So I guess I have to create one? The Known fitler should be there by default under the Incoming filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. -- Cheers, Thomas. - MAN WANTED TO WORK IN DYNAMITE FACTORY. MUST BE WILLING TO TRAVEL. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Friday, June 17, 2005, 10:22:23 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: The Known fitler should be there by default under the Incoming filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. I have created a few local filters for my new IMAP account, so I just took a look at that account's sorting office, and find no 'known' filter there. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.27 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Friday, June 17, 2005, 10:50:52 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. I have created a few local filters for my new IMAP account, so I just took a look at that account's sorting office, and find no 'known' filter there. and on further reflection, immediately after sending the send button on last message, notice there is no inbox-known created for that account. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.27 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Dwight A Corrin everyone else, on 17-Jun-2005 at 17:56 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote: sending the send button That button didn't arrive here yet, however... ;-) SCNR! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Dub Angel (3:49) by Snooze vs DJ Cam from the 1996 album 'Freezone 3 - Horizontal Dancing (CD2)' Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Dwight, On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:50:52 -0500 GMT (17/06/2005, 22:50 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. Oh sorry. I don't know about IMAP, I was talking about POP. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It is a good chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Friday, June 17, 2005, 11:23:05 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: DAC I recently made the switch from POP to IMAP. Oh sorry. I don't know about IMAP, I was talking about POP. I don't know either. Figured the only to learn whether that was because of the differences, or whether it was an oversight, was to ask. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.27 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Thomas, Friday, June 17, 2005, 8:22:23 AM, you wrote: The Known fitler should be there by default under the Incoming filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. I checked and nothing. I know how to re-create the known inbox, but how do I re-create the filter? Thanks -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Thu 16-Jun-05 8:21pm -0500, Darrin wrote: I thought that all mail from users in my address book will go into inbox-known automatically. Doesnt seem to work. Is there something I must do to get this working? What do you mean by doesn't seem to work? Are mails going into inbox-known that are from senders not in your address book? Or are mails from senders in your address book not going in? If it is the latter, run Test Filters on a mail that should have gone there. Is it going somewhere else? If nothing is being triggered, make sure there is a sender address that is really in your address book and the known filter is active. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.27 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
Hello Bill, Thursday, June 16, 2005, 7:06:15 PM, you wrote: If it is the latter, run Test Filters on a mail that should have gone there. Is it going somewhere else? If nothing is being triggered, make sure there is a sender address that is really in your address book and the known filter is active. It is the latter. I happen to look in the sorting office and there is no filters for known senders. So I guess I have to create one? -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-known
On Thu 16-Jun-05 9:20pm -0500, Darrin wrote: Thursday, June 16, 2005, 7:06:15 PM, you wrote: If it is the latter, run Test Filters on a mail that should have gone there. Is it going somewhere else? If nothing is being triggered, make sure there is a sender address that is really in your address book and the known filter is active. It is the latter. I happen to look in the sorting office and there is no filters for known senders. So I guess I have to create one? It one time it was created automatically. It was called known (without the quotes). You are not really missing anything important - I have mine disabled. I created my own called known with put messages not with me as a sender (I'm in the address book) AND with the sender in the address book. The actions is to move to Inbox-known and it is active. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.27 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: inbox-known ?
Sh'mae Andy, On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, at 23:52:31 [GMT +0100] (23:52 where I live) you wrote: AM Hello list AM Probably a stupid question, but what is the purpose of the AM Inbox-Known folder which was created automatically on AM installation? There is a special filter that can be activated that means that any incoming mail from a person already in your address book gets shunted into this folder. Consider it step one in SPAM management. A -- 09 August 2002, 00:33 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Linux: Because rebooting is for adding new hardware. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox - Known Folder? WHAT ARE THESE FOLKS THINKING?
Hello Miles! On Friday, June 14, 2002 at 9:03:31 PM you wrote: It boggles the mind that several WEEKS after this (potentially very useful) feature is implemented there's still NOTHING on the updated program's FAQ. The FAQ does not come from RITLabs. And please, please don't tell us that they don't have enough resources to hire a full-time,. professional help/FAQ writer. If TB truly has millions of users, by now Ritlabs is extremely wealthy, especially considering the exchange rate of western currencies for theirs... Ever heard of the difference between number of downloads, number of copies in use, number of customers and number of paid copies around? I don't know if RITLabs is wealthy already or not. There are a lot of things to be factored into this equation - one of them being interes rates, another being payback money. Lo and behold, this morning I also get a message from Ritlabs stating the changes since 1.53. Wow, how many weeks has it been since the first iteration of 1.60 and we're getting this NOW? Yes, it was asked for. I'm sticking to 1.53... Do others feel the same way? Maybe, although not me. Are you sticking to 1.53 because it satisfies your needs or because you are pissed by RITLabs' communication skills? Call me crazy but in my humble, non-geeky opinion what WOULD have made sense - and created a lot less havoc among TB users, AND generated a lot more business in these spam-crazed times - would have been for Ritlabs to create a folder called unknown for all the spam... and to implement an easy, customer-friendly way to customize it. Which is the Inbox folder - if you use Known or filters to sort your known associates' messages into other folders. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60q on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C You can fool all the people some of the time, some of the people all the time, but never all the people all the time. (Abraham Lincoln) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Inbox - Known Folder?
On Friday, June 14, 2002, Alan Little wrote... Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 I just upgraded to 1.60q, and it created a folder named Inbox - Known in each of my accounts, just above the Inbox standard folder. What is this for? I can't find anything about it in the documentation. It's used in conjunction with the Known filter. If you have that filter switched on, all mail addressed from people in your address book gets put into that folder... should make it a little easier to identify spam ;) As this question has been asked several times... might it not be a nice addition to add to the FAQ (whoever maintains it?) ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Inbox - Known Folder?
Hey Alan, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal to write the following on Friday, June 14, 2002 at 10:43:56 AM. AL Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 AL I just upgraded to 1.60q, and it created a folder named Inbox - AL Known in each of my accounts, just above the Inbox standard folder. AL What is this for? I can't find anything about it in the documentation. From What's new in The Bat! 1.60? [+] The Known incoming mail filter for moving messages from known senders to a special folder so the Inbox can be left for unknown senders and spam :-) Basically, you have a default filter that will move any message with an entry in your add book to it. You do have to turn on the filter... It is called Known and I believe it is supposed to be last. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Inbox - Known Folder?
Hey Jonathan, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal to write the following on Friday, June 14, 2002 at 11:16:22 AM. JA As this question has been asked several times... might it not be a JA nice addition to add to the FAQ (whoever maintains it?) ;) Not a bad idea... Marck? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why get even, when you can get odd? Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Inbox - Known Folder?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, @14 June 2002, 11:20:14 -0400 (16:20 UK time) Tim Musson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JA As this question has been asked several times... might it not be a JA nice addition to add to the FAQ (whoever maintains it?) ;) Not a bad idea... Marck? I'll go for that ;-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9CgzNOeQkq5KdzaARAsvVAJ0UQfdmmzrb4osMmcom40i0BO6P+ACeKWFX MY0uaqlMqPSnd2m4Er7+WHk= =szH5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Inbox - Known Folder? WHAT ARE THESE FOLKS THINKING?
Hey Miles, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.53d) Personal to write the following on Friday, June 14, 2002 at 3:03:31 PM. TM [+] The Known incoming mail filter for moving messages from TM known senders to a special folder so the Inbox can be left for TM unknown senders and spam :-) MJ Well I've been trying to figure this out ever since it was MJ implemented, seen all kinds of people upset about this... It MJ boggles the mind that several WEEKS after this (potentially very MJ useful) feature is implemented there's still NOTHING on the MJ updated program's FAQ. RIT does not maintain the FAQ, it is maintained from this list. MJ This begs the question: MJ WHAT on earth are these good folks THINKING? No answer for you there, other than that is how it always has been. MJ And please, please don't tell us that they don't have enough MJ resources to hire a full-time,. professional help/FAQ writer. If MJ TB truly has millions of users, by now Ritlabs is extremely MJ wealthy, especially considering the exchange rate of western MJ currencies for theirs... Um, ~$30 US for each copy [over the years]... I don't know the exchange rate, but ... MJ Lo and behold, this morning I also get a message from Ritlabs MJ stating the changes since 1.53. Wow, how many weeks has it been MJ since the first iteration of 1.60 and we're getting this NOW? The change list they sent out this AM is the same one that has been in every 1.60 dl... MJ I'm sticking to 1.53... Do others feel the same way? N, 1.60 has way too many cool features! SmartBat being one. And check this one out, I key 54*23= then with my cursor on one of those chars I do a shift+ctrl+= and it changes it to.54*23=1242 Now I don't need to grab MS's horrible calculator... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) What could possibly go wrong? Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Inbox - Known (was: What happened to Help?)
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 8:07:31 AM you wrote: MSG and how I get rid of it if I don't want it? Don't know. For all those who couldn't follow the lists in the past few weeks - and those that don't know what an archive is: Got to your Sorting Office and disable the Known filter. After that (and may be are-start of TB!) the said folder should be gone. If not, you can now delete ist and it'll be gone until you enable the filter again. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Calling Things by their right name marks the beginning of Wisdom. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Inbox - Known -- docmentation?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @02 May 2002, 20:22:16 -0400 (01:22 UK time) Mark Knipfer wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there any documentation available on the Inbox - Known folder; how it works, etc.? TheBat! 1.60h Help file lacks documentation on this mail folder. Inbox - Known is merely a suggested serving folder to use as a target for the new Known filter in the sorting office. If you change the target folder of that filter or disable it, you can safely remove the folder. The Known filter is a quick and easy elimination filter to quickly move mail from known people (according to your address book) out of the Inbox, leaving potential spam behind. BUT - if you remove the filter, TB will auto-create the filter next time you start it and, at that point, recreate the Inbox - known folder. (at least, that's what it did when we were testing it on TBBETA). If there is a web page providing such documentation, please cite the URL. Not yet... - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80JE6OeQkq5KdzaARAi+bAKCXJpm8aNMdNWK+xM/Ju+Ldz4NoyACgpxOi IF+DEej+V0LJetnelWMGjyk= =Qlxn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox -- known
Hello William, On Monday, April 22, 2002 at 11:51:14 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): WE So my feature request is for a remove from address book as a right WE click option for any email address. WE What do you guys think? I think it is already partial available ... Ctrl+W will add sender to address book, Ctrl+B will delete it ... I don't know if I'd really need the very same option for _every_ e-mail-address in the message text :-) If I don't want to receive mail anymore from a specific person and that one is in my AB I can delete if by finding a message of him/her and use the above mentioned shortcut :-) If my Known filter would be active all necessary steps would be taken this way :-) I do rarely have people in my AB I don't receive mail from _and_ want to delete these entries :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60g on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) If there were no golf balls, how could we measure hail? Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox -- known
Hello Curt, Monday, April 22, 2002, 12:14:35 PM, you wrote: CA What happened to the inbox-known feature I saw in 1.60b? It appears to CA be gone in 1.60c. I am using the c version and it still has the InBox known feature. You have to have the email addresses already in your address book. But it does have it and it is working for me. -- Best regards, Lynnamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox -- known
Hello Curt, On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:14:35 -0400GMT (22-4-02, 22:14 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: CA What happened to the inbox-known feature I saw in 1.60b? It appears to CA be gone in 1.60c. Still present. Maybe you deactivated the known filter, that makes the known-inbox go away. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
Hello Nick! On Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 1:16:52 AM you wrote: That pretty much sums up my view on it as well, and you can add the SmartBat memo pad 'thingy' and calculator to that list as well. Sorry RITLabs but there are much more important enhancements needed. The Inbox - Known can be of help if one does not have much experience with filtering. It is therefore a good (and very small) addition to beginners. (Note: I haven't used it, yet.) The SmartBat is useful for transferring text of any kind (including filters) between accounts, messages, even programmes). The calculator has been put to good use within templates (I've seen at least one case in point by Peter Palmreuther). The Evaluate menu item is merely a by-product of the new %CALC macro. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Dankbarkeit ist eine Pflicht, die erfüllt werden sollte, die aber zu erwarten keiner das Recht hat. (Jean-Jacques Rousseau) Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:05:33 +0900, Yuki Taga [YT] wrote these comments: ... DH The SmartBat is useful for transferring text of any kind (including DH filters) between accounts, messages, even programmes). YT Easier than copy to the clipboard and paste where you want it? I YT admit to not having explored this feature almost at all, but from YT the description above it sounds like . . . the clipboard. And I YT already have one with the OS that works perfectly. I wonder if you're being deliberately difficult with this one? g You can manage multiple clips of text with it. You can format them and manipulate them as you wish. You can't do that with the clipboard. Now some may argue that the users favourite text editor could accomplish most of this and I tend to agree though my heart goes to the SmartBat since it uses the TB! text formatting features, and your clips are automatically stored by dates. Not to mention that it appears *instantly* when you hit F6. :-) - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [MUA: TB! v1.60 (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjygUiQACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IaowCg5d4jc6hq09XLefDI/OaszOrk pXoAnjzzm4nFbZr6wALazJX1nEISBQ0P =No6J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
Hi Allie, Tuesday, March 26, 2002, 7:49:08 PM, Allie wrote: YT the clipboard. And I already have one with the OS that works YT perfectly. ACM I wonder if you're being deliberately difficult with this one? g Not really, but I did admit that I haven't really explored this one at all. :)) ACM You can manage multiple clips of text with it. You can format them and ACM manipulate them as you wish. You can't do that with the clipboard. I'm not surprised there is more to it than that. The developers aren't likely to add completely useless features -- *except* for probably the Inbox - Known and the Menu Navigator. (ducking and running again) (^_-) But, it does strike me as an extreme power user kind of thing. I'm sure it's going to be useful for some, maybe even many. But I think you'll agree that there are a ton of folks who will never do more than open it once, gape at it a few seconds in somewhat befuddled silence, then close it again forever. :) I really think the next thing RIT should focus on -- *other* than FULL DBCS support, of course -- (^_-) is getting the Help files written, and I mean fully and properly written, so that people other than old-hand beta testers know how to use this stuff. You know, when I type 'smart' or 'SmartBat' into TB's Help/Index tab, I get a big fat nada, as in zip, void, nothing. And when I open SmartBat, I hardly get anything very intuitive, or suggestive of what I might actually *do* with the thing. I do get a date, which I already know, and I do get a time display, which duplicates the one down in the lower right hand corner of my screen. :)) The presence of a calendar made me think perhaps some kind of an alarm program had been incorporated into TB. As for the menu searcher thingy: a nice graphic layout of the menu tree on a single page in the Help file, with each menu item hot-linked to a complete explanation of that item, might obviate the need for it altogether. 'Menu Navigator' also comes up shooting blanks in Help. The time not spent on the Help files is a terrible, terrible shame. Want to impress people, as in potential new customers? Get the Help file done in a professional manner, a manner worthy of the program itself, and keep it up to date. No release is ever justified without a completed and up to date Help file, IMHO. I think the kind of people who gravitate toward a program like TB are the kind of people who like to use resources like Help files to figure a lot of stuff out by themselves. I almost never started using TB because of the rather sketchy condition of the Help file. The quality of the English alone tipped me to the fact that the company was probably extremely small, maybe even to the point of not being well funded enough to continue development over the long haul. Now maybe that judgment is all wet. Maybe RIT has hundreds of employees and a fat budget. But I got exactly the opposite impression from the Help file. It was only the obvious quality of the program itself that ended up hooking me, but I almost didn't get that far. And I'm still on my guard about the longevity issue, particularly as I see things not getting done that I would rate as essential, at the expense of what I consider a bit of fluff. All of this in the spirit of egging on RIT to make this the best it can be. Nothing else; nothing less. Best, Yuki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties forInbox - Known)
Hello Nick. At 7:16 PM on Monday, March 25, 2002 you wrote the following about [Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)]: Nick [...] there are much more important enhancements Nick needed. [/...] What enhancements are @ the top of your list? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
Tuesday, March 26, 2002, 11:58:08 AM, Michael Disabato wrote: I agree, but it would be nice to be able to delete it. This non-choice kind of option just makes programs larger, not more useful. I've killed off the Known box mainly because I use filtering at the server to route unknown mail to another account. I get that one once a day, leaving the known mail for an account I read often, sometimes using a wireless device. --- From my experience, you have the choice whether to retain this folder. I've deleted Inbox - Known from my copy of TB! 1.60. To do this, I ensured that the Known filter was inactive, then right-clicked Inbox-Known, then clicked Delete Folder. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.60 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Press any button to continue, any other button to quit Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
Hello Yuki! On Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 1:27:11 PM you wrote: But, it does strike me as an extreme power user kind of thing. I'm sure it's going to be useful for some, maybe even many. But I think you'll agree that there are a ton of folks who will never do more than open it once, gape at it a few seconds in somewhat befuddled silence, then close it again forever. :) Now it really becomes funny - the kind of Wayans Brothers' movie fun. Nick tells us TB! is not for beginners. You tell us certain aspects are only for power users. I hope, I am not the only one rolling on the floor. ;-) All in all, I am with you on the other aspects you mention. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Jede Änderung des Sinnes muß davon ausgehen, daß die neue Ansicht die richtige und gute sei, nicht davon, daß sie Annehmlichkeiten und äußere Vorteile schafft. (Marc Aurel) Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
Hello Michael! On Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 12:58:08 PM you wrote: I agree, but it would be nice to be able to delete it. I seem to be the only one never having trouble deleting it. I tested it some time back during beta (when it was introduced), decided I won't need it at the moment and just deleted it. the filter is de-activated and that's it. Never again saw the folder. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. (George Bernard Shaw) Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
Hello Luc At 2:24 PM on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 you wrote the following about [Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)]: JR What enhancements are @ the top of your list? Luc A fully written help file would be nice Agreed. Anything else @ the top of your list? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
It was foretold that on 26-3-2002 @ 14:39:41 GMT-0500 (which was 20:39 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and spread these wise comments on Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known): JR Agreed. Anything else @ the top of your list? Keep up the good work :-) -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.60 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Why can't you be a nonconformist like everyone else? Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:27:11 +0900, Yuki Taga [YT] wrote these comments: ... ACM You can manage multiple clips of text with it. You can format them and ACM manipulate them as you wish. You can't do that with the clipboard. YT I'm not surprised there is more to it than that. The developers YT aren't likely to add completely useless features -- *except* for YT probably the Inbox - Known and the Menu Navigator. (ducking and YT running again) (^_-) But, it does strike me as an extreme power user YT kind of thing. Like regular expression support in the macros? :-) YT I'm sure it's going to be useful for some, maybe even many. Sure. YT But I think you'll agree that there are a ton of folks who will YT never do more than open it once, gape at it a few seconds in YT somewhat befuddled silence, then close it again forever. :) Sure. This is how it goes with most if not all feature rich applications. It's unusual that any user will find each and every offered feature useful. I certainly don't use all of TB!'s features. However, you'll find that all features are being used by the applications userbase, especially if the applications development is not occurring in a vacuum which we both know is definitely not the case with regards to TB!. YT I really think the next thing RIT should focus on -- *other* than YT FULL DBCS support, of course -- (^_-) is getting the Help files YT written, and I mean fully and properly written, so that people other YT than old-hand beta testers know how to use this stuff. Agreed. More of their budget needs to go into that. YT You know, when I type 'smart' or 'SmartBat' into TB's Help/Index YT tab, I get a big fat nada, as in zip, void, nothing. And when I open YT SmartBat, I hardly get anything very intuitive, or suggestive of YT what I might actually *do* with the thing. I do get a date, which I YT already know, and I do get a time display, which duplicates the one YT down in the lower right hand corner of my screen. :)) You can insert the current time through the right click context menu. In that way, you can associate the date and time with text clips. YT The presence of a calendar made me think perhaps some kind of an YT alarm program had been incorporated into TB. No. It's really a way of finding clips pasted in under a particular date. rest snipped ... I more or less agree with your sentiments on the issue. - -- Allie C Martin List Moderator and fellow end user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ TB! v1.60 Windows XP 5.1.2600 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyhBaIACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LarACdHIEGNbFkD1gzfZ1a5rN0K5Db MCIAni7+qsHiQ38/DAtQrFrJ/EjamOOu =nhXe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
Hello Yuki Taga, On Monday, March 25 2002 at 03:27 PM PDT, you wrote: Maybe it is, but to me it just seems like a typical case of software bloat and redundancy, albeit probably on a small scale here. That pretty much sums up my view on it as well, and you can add the SmartBat memo pad 'thingy' and calculator to that list as well. Sorry RITLabs but there are much more important enhancements needed. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties for Inbox - Known)
On 26-3-02 at 01:16, Nick Andriash kindly wrote: Hello Yuki Taga, Maybe it is, but to me it just seems like a typical case of software bloat and redundancy, albeit probably on a small scale here. That pretty much sums up my view on it as well, and you can add the SmartBat memo pad 'thingy' and calculator to that list as well. Sorry RITLabs but there are much more important enhancements needed. Seconded. Better (multiple) search capacities for instance, whithout one needing to learn RegEx. And why can't you still add people on the cc line to the address book? Or: have cross-accounts filters and cross-accounts address books. Or: being able to queue specific mails to be sent at a specific time. And: the ability to search through different groups in the address book. Or: porting TB to Linux. I love TB, but a known-inbox that reduces the real inbox to an upbeat version of a spam mailbox is not my idea of an improvement. - K - -- Inessential insanities get one in trouble with oneself. Essential insanities get one in trouble with others. It's always preferable to be in trouble with others. In fact, it may be essential. - Tom Robbins: Still Life With Woodpecker Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known - general comments (Was: Changing properties forInbox - Known)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 0:27 op dinsdag 26 maart 2002, Yuki Taga: Maybe it is, but to me it just seems like a typical case of software bloat and redundancy, albeit probably on a small scale here. oh please. a pre-installed folder and a pre-installed rule. doesn't really add up to 'bloat' imnsho. it is a very nice introduction for the beginning bat-user to the concept of filtering and adressbooks. this is hardly-to-no any bloat compared to 1.53, since i implemented it there manually. Basically, what it seems to do if you enable the filter is to turn your normal Inbox into a *temporary* or *pending* Trash folder. Fine, but where is there any time or energy savings in that? i added a rule to the outgoing filters that adds any new mailadress i send mail to to a special adressbook, so that ultimately any conversation i have with someone ends up in the Inbox - Known. some filtering cannot be left to automatons and has to be done in your head. mail left in the Inbox is likely spam, whereas mail in the Inbox-Known is most probably not spam and therefore relevant enough for you to give it some TLA. together with other filters, i can safely delete 95% from the mail that ends up in the inbox. manually, yes. pressing 'del' once does not bother me too much :) thus there is at least 1 happy customer with the Inbox-Known :) Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPJ+5+0tQMadp+KslEQLEAgCg3xtEUMOp2W/fs0IO7xIXxJPRLOgAn0qu tWQ9rbrx2Hpi85e5TQYK5/Ts =1Dqq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox-Known ?
Haye, On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, at 10:45:45 [GMT +0700] (which was 9:15 AM where I live) you wrote: H Can any body tell me, what the meaning of the folder Inbox-known ? This I believe beta issue and am not sure if its to be discussed here. In short this is an attempt to create a spam filter based on the logic that senders whose address is in the your address book would be filtered to the inbox-known rest to the normal inbox. TGIF, Have a great weekend! -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On the other hand, you have different fingers. Replied on 11 Jan 2002 using TB Ver 1.54 Beta/24 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
