Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki 5.1.19 plugin library and IP6 doesn't work

['Torax Malu' via TiddlyWiki]

 

Hi Jeremy,

 

I beg your pardon form a lack of manners. Seems I never thanked you for the 
acknowledging of my assumption.

 

Thanks for your work with TW.

 

Cheers

 

Torax

Am Samstag, 11. Mai 2019 18:52:35 UTC+2 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> Hi ToraxMalu
>
> I think that the problem here is that GitHub Pages (where we host 
> tiddlywiki.com) doesn’t support IPv6 (I tested it at 
> https://ipv6-test.com/validate.php).
>
> So, you’d need to host the plugin library somewhere else that does work 
> via IPv6, and then create a new plugin library description tiddler along 
> the lines of the existing one:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2FOfficialPluginLibrary 
> 
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On 4 May 2019, at 20:24, toraxmalu1 via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I tested the startup of tiddly wiki in the Server-Edition (node.js) also 
> woth IP6-Adresses. Well, running on IP4-Adresses I was able to connect to 
> the plugin library.
>
> Starting with a bind to a IP6-Adress 
> like [::1] tiddlywiki couldn't find the plugin catalouge.
>
> Start-Command was this this on the newest node.js-Version:
>
> tiddlywiki wiki --server 80 "" "" "" "" "" ::1
>
> Cheers
>
> ToraxMalu
>
>
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[tw5] Minimalist me: using unicode characters instead of images

[Riz]

Tad old but notable

https://tutorialzine.com/2014/12/you-dont-need-icons-here-are-100-unicode-symbols-that-you-can-use

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[tw5] Re: Is it easy to "port" a library into TW?

[Tony K]

Thanks Joshua for the detailed response

https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-Vis.js is a "conversion" or "port" or 
whatever you wanna call it of vis.js to TW

I'd like to do the save for pixi.js https://github.com/pixijs



On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 8:06:58 AM UTC+3, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> It honestly depends on the what the library does, and your experience with 
> tiddlywiki and javascript. I was fairly new to javascript, especially on 
> node.js, but had background in other scripting and C#.net.
>
> The tiddlywiki architecture, i.e. the raw text -> parse tree -> widget 
> tree -> final DOM, process is very different than other html/js abstraction 
> layers like React, etc. Those work directly on the DOM, but tiddlywiki 
> destroys and re-creates the DOM "at-will" when the underlying tiddler data 
> has changed. This can be a hurdle at first.
>
> If you are just manipulating underlying tiddler data, or creating your own 
> $widget, there are some good examples in the $/:core that you can extend.
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 9:35:45 PM UTC-7, Tony K wrote:
>>
>> I have seen quite a few "porting" / conversion for different JS libraries 
>> into TW. 
>>
>> would that be hard to do?, I'd like to do it for pixi.js but I am not 
>> sure where to start
>>
>> thanks
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Is it easy to "port" a library into TW?

[Joshua Fontany]

It honestly depends on the what the library does, and your experience with 
tiddlywiki and javascript. I was fairly new to javascript, especially on 
node.js, but had background in other scripting and C#.net.

The tiddlywiki architecture, i.e. the raw text -> parse tree -> widget tree 
-> final DOM, process is very different than other html/js abstraction 
layers like React, etc. Those work directly on the DOM, but tiddlywiki 
destroys and re-creates the DOM "at-will" when the underlying tiddler data 
has changed. This can be a hurdle at first.

If you are just manipulating underlying tiddler data, or creating your own 
$widget, there are some good examples in the $/:core that you can extend.

Best,
Joshua Fontany

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 9:35:45 PM UTC-7, Tony K wrote:
>
> I have seen quite a few "porting" / conversion for different JS libraries 
> into TW. 
>
> would that be hard to do?, I'd like to do it for pixi.js but I am not sure 
> where to start
>
> thanks
>

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[tw5] Is it easy to "port" a library into TW?

[Tony K]

I have seen quite a few "porting" / conversion for different JS libraries 
into TW. 

would that be hard to do?, I'd like to do it for pixi.js but I am not sure 
where to start

thanks

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[tw5] Re: [Plugin] TWCrossLinks

[Tony K]

Hi Anders

I do like your suggestion a lot but I think it fits more into DailyNotes 
than in TWCrossLinks

do you use DailyNotes? It will be a great addition to it if you don't mind 
me using it

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 2:18:16 AM UTC+3, Anjar wrote:
>
> Thanks Tony for this wonderful plugin! 
>
>
> I was taking some notes today and realising it would be nice to have some 
> way to handle reoccurence in some; birthdays, important dates and so on. 
> Maybe it could be possible to add regular expression to keywords in some 
> way? Eg. if I just 01 add as keyword, it will show up on all my journal 
> tiddlers the first each month; if I add the keyword 02-01 it will show only 
> every February 1.; using 2022-02-01 will add it to the keyword list 
> February 1. in 2022 (but the latter will already happen if I call the 
> journal tiddler 2022-02-01). Just a thought! 
>
> Edit: I guess some of you know better ways, but I think this may work: 
>
>
> \define test() 
> <$list filter="[{!!title}split[-]]" variable="t"><$set name=l 
> filter="[length[]]" >(<>|[0]{<>})  
> \end 
>
> <$wikify name=outr text=<> mode=inline> 
> <$set name=out filter="[trim[]split[ ]join[-]]"> 
> <]">> 
>  
>  
>
> where -00-01 is the first of each month; -01-00 is every day each 
> January and so on 
>
> Best, 
> Anders 
>
>
> mandag 25. mai 2020 10.26.24 UTC+2 skrev Tony K følgende: 
> Hello SizzlinSJ yes I did because now tabs are dynamically hidden when 
> they are empty, so I couldn't see how to fit a default tab in all that 
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 10:10:17 AM UTC+3, SizzlinSJ wrote: 
> It's late but, did you remove 'Select which Tab you want to be open by 
> Default' option in update v1.20. Any reason for this? 

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: a plugin which automatically relinks renamed tiddlers

[Joshua Fontany]

Actually, that's really cool. I have that on my ToDo list, but have put it 
off while I tinker with UI stuff.

Best,
Joshua F

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-7, Flibbles wrote:
>
> *Now with Markdown support!*
>
> ...in the form of a supplemental plugin.
>
> But I integrated Relink v1.10 with Tiddlywiki's PluginLibrary wizard, so 
> now when you go to "Get More Plugins", Relink has it's own tab where you 
> can easily see all Relink sub-plugins (installed or not installed), what 
> needs updating, and then update with a single click. It's super slick, 
> guys. For real!
>
> But probably not worth all the work it took.
>
> -Flibbles
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: textfield in a template

[Joshua Fontany]

Here is a json of all the tiddlers necessary to test this out, both the 
changed sysetem tiddlers, and the custom templates and settings tiddlers I 
have been using to test this new system. If you drag everything into a 
fresh wiki, and then open the "Adat 1" tiddler, you should see that the 
Fields section is now in a toggle-able hidden $reveal widget, there is a 
toggle link/$button floating to the right of the Type field, and the BODY 
has two TABS - one with the normal Edit Text stuff, the other with my 
custom Languages fields for the glossary I am building.

Best,
Joshua F

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 6:27:36 PM UTC-7, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> Yeah, this is probably my favorite hack I've ever come up with. Its so 
> easy to customize pieces of the Tiddler-in-the-Story-River.
>
> Right now I just got a tabbed editor working on all [tag[Glossary]] 
> tiddlers, that auto-hides the Fields section in an accordian $reveal 
> widget, and has the default editor on one tab, and my custom-fields editor 
> on the next. This has edit boxes for the `aliases` field, as well as every 
> field found in the `_language_list` field. It all just works. Setting up a 
> set of test tiddlers you can play with now.
>
> Best,
> Joshua F
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 5:45:18 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Post script,
>>
>> A Hide-body variable/macro that would override the hide-body field if it 
>> is set, allowing one template to turn it off or on programmatically as 
>> required.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 10:29:09 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>>
>>> Can you share what the implications are in your mind?
>>>
>>> I now have Timimi on Chrome, and read the forum in chrome. I found a 
>>> nice workflow. 
>>>
>>>- Download the json files to a my scratch folder, but they sit in 
>>>the browser footer tray
>>>- Go to Tiddlywiki.com drag the json files from the footer tray on 
>>>top of tiddlywiki.com
>>>- I took the extra step of downloading tiddlywiki.com, double click 
>>>in the download tray to open in a tab and drag the json to that for a 
>>>Timimi savable test.
>>>
>>> You idea seems like an advance but I need to re-conceptualize this in 
>>> relation to all the things I already know about viewTemplates, and how I 
>>> would do what I already do.
>>>
>>> If we are modifying the view Templates there are a few other hackability 
>>> issues that would be nice; Given the area you are modifying it makes sense 
>>> to raise them here;
>>>
>>>- Tags to add items to the subtitle
>>>- Ability to display a prefix or suffix to the title
>>>   - eg if chapter number is available display that before title
>>>   - even use the tiddlers position in a tag list to obtain the 
>>>   number
>>>- Optional Extra a new float right toolbar under the existing one to 
>>>add contextual buttons
>>>   - Ones that appear of disappear on various tiddler or wiki wide 
>>>   conditions
>>>   - We can already do this with conditional code in buttons, but it 
>>>   would help sort them from standard buttons if they had their own 
>>> place. 
>>>
>>> Either you could incorporate these changes in your templates, with a 
>>> view to adding them to the core as well.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 6:01:53 PM UTC+10, Joshua Fontany wrote:

 Oh, wow. This is incredibly powerful.

 PR is up. I have attached a *.json bundle with the tiddlers I am using 
 to test the rendering. 
 The Title and Subtitle overrides have a `name` field, like a plugin, 
 and this triggers a custom view template for each that pushes the title 
 into the subtitle, and renders the Name in the title. Both obey 
 the Titles-a-Links setting in $:/Config > Settings.

 I have also attached a *.json bundle with just the changed 
 shadow-tiddlers, so you could actually try this out on tiddlywiki.com by 
 dragging both to a tab with it loaded.

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4681

 Best,
 Joshua Fontany

>>>

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custom_templates_edit_test.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Presenting: a plugin which automatically relinks renamed tiddlers

[Flibbles]

*Now with Markdown support!*

...in the form of a supplemental plugin.

But I integrated Relink v1.10 with Tiddlywiki's PluginLibrary wizard, so 
now when you go to "Get More Plugins", Relink has it's own tab where you 
can easily see all Relink sub-plugins (installed or not installed), what 
needs updating, and then update with a single click. It's super slick, 
guys. For real!

But probably not worth all the work it took.

-Flibbles

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[tw5] Webserver: PUT request failing with error

[Riz]

I created an empty server wiki and added a tiddler with title "New". GET 
request against "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/New; 
returns proper response. However various attempts at PUT request fails with 
the following error message.

HTTP/1.1 403 'X-Requested-With' header required to login to 'My ~TiddlyWiki'
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 01:43:14 GMT
Connection: keep-alive
Transfer-Encoding: chunked


Commands I attempted

curl -X PUT -i 'http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/New' --data 
'{
"title": "New",
"tags": "FirstTag [[Second Tag]]",
"my-custom-field": "Field value"
}'


curl -X PUT -H 'Content-Type: application/json' -i 
'http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/New' --data '{
"title": "New",
"tags": "FirstTag [[Second Tag]]",
"my-custom-field": "Field value"
}'



curl -X PUT -H 'X-Requested-With: XMLHttpRequest' -H 'Content-Type: 
application/json' -i 'http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/New' 
--data 
'{
"title": "New",
"tags": "FirstTag [[Second Tag]]",
"my-custom-field": "Field value"
}

curl -X GET -H 'X-Requested-With: XMLHttpRequest' -i 
'http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/New' 
--data '{
"title": "New",
"tags": "FirstTag [[Second Tag]]",
"fields": {
"my-custom-field": "Field value"
}
}'


Is there a value of X-Requested-With header that is necessary? 

Anyone who successfully managed to issue a PUT request against the 
TW-Server, could you furnish the command you issued?

Sincerely,
Riz

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[tw5] Re: Saving changes on Android to the same file name

[GHz]

On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 12:33:15 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 5:51:57 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> If you use PMario's file-backups you can save to the same file  on 
>> Firefox (not sure if it does Chrome).
>>
>
> FireFox works for me. There is no Chrome version atm. ... BUT it needs to 
> be Downloads dir or a subdirectory also on Android.
>
> see. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/file-backups/
>
> -m
>

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestions.  I tried PMario's file-backups but I couldn't 
get it to work the way I wanted -- I wanted to save to the original file, 
not make backups.  I tried to install TiddloidLite but my phone admin has 
locked installing apps from apk files.  

I ended up finding Auto Transfer on the Play store which I setup to move 
Downloads/Stroll.html to MyDir/Stroll.html automatically.  Then the next 
time I save the file from the browser there is no filename in the way and 
the file doesn't get renamed.  I have Syncthing running in MyDir and it 
syncs the file to my other devices.  The only minor issue is I have to 
remember to reload the file in the browser before editing.  This works well 
enough for me.  

Glen

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[tw5] Re: TW5: textfield in a template

[Joshua Fontany]

Yeah, this is probably my favorite hack I've ever come up with. Its so easy 
to customize pieces of the Tiddler-in-the-Story-River.

Right now I just got a tabbed editor working on all [tag[Glosary]] 
tiddlers, that auto-hides the Fields section in an accordian $reveal 
widget, and has the default editor on one tab, and my custom-fields editor 
on the next. This has edit boxes for the `aliases` field, as well as every 
field found in the `_language_list` field. It all just works. Setting up a 
set of test tiddlers you can play with now.

Best,
Joshua F

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 5:45:18 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Post script,
>
> A Hide-body variable/macro that would override the hide-body field if it 
> is set, allowing one template to turn it off or on programmatically as 
> required.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 10:29:09 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Joshua,
>>
>> Can you share what the implications are in your mind?
>>
>> I now have Timimi on Chrome, and read the forum in chrome. I found a nice 
>> workflow. 
>>
>>- Download the json files to a my scratch folder, but they sit in the 
>>browser footer tray
>>- Go to Tiddlywiki.com drag the json files from the footer tray on 
>>top of tiddlywiki.com
>>- I took the extra step of downloading tiddlywiki.com, double click 
>>in the download tray to open in a tab and drag the json to that for a 
>>Timimi savable test.
>>
>> You idea seems like an advance but I need to re-conceptualize this in 
>> relation to all the things I already know about viewTemplates, and how I 
>> would do what I already do.
>>
>> If we are modifying the view Templates there are a few other hackability 
>> issues that would be nice; Given the area you are modifying it makes sense 
>> to raise them here;
>>
>>- Tags to add items to the subtitle
>>- Ability to display a prefix or suffix to the title
>>   - eg if chapter number is available display that before title
>>   - even use the tiddlers position in a tag list to obtain the number
>>- Optional Extra a new float right toolbar under the existing one to 
>>add contextual buttons
>>   - Ones that appear of disappear on various tiddler or wiki wide 
>>   conditions
>>   - We can already do this with conditional code in buttons, but it 
>>   would help sort them from standard buttons if they had their own 
>> place. 
>>
>> Either you could incorporate these changes in your templates, with a view 
>> to adding them to the core as well.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 6:01:53 PM UTC+10, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, wow. This is incredibly powerful.
>>>
>>> PR is up. I have attached a *.json bundle with the tiddlers I am using 
>>> to test the rendering. 
>>> The Title and Subtitle overrides have a `name` field, like a plugin, and 
>>> this triggers a custom view template for each that pushes the title into 
>>> the subtitle, and renders the Name in the title. Both obey the 
>>> Titles-a-Links setting in $:/Config > Settings.
>>>
>>> I have also attached a *.json bundle with just the changed 
>>> shadow-tiddlers, so you could actually try this out on tiddlywiki.com by 
>>> dragging both to a tab with it loaded.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4681
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joshua Fontany
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mark, that is seriously brilliant! Tx!

I'll comment in more detail in a couple of days after I used it more.

TT

On Tuesday, 26 May 2020 01:32:38 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Here's the work in progress. I'm hoping someone will think it's
> so amazing that they'll do all the hard work of making it work well ;-)
>
> https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey.html
>
>

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Here's the work in progress. I'm hoping someone will think it's
so amazing that they'll do all the hard work of making it work well ;-)

https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey.html

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[tw5] Re: [Plugin] TWCrossLinks

[Anjar]

Thanks Tony for this wonderful plugin!

I was taking some notes today and realising it would be nice to have some 
way to handle reoccurence in some; birthdays, important dates and so on. 
Maybe it could be possible to add regular expression to keywords in some 
way? Eg. if I just 01 add as keyword, it will show up on all my journal 
tiddlers the first each month; if I add the keyword 02-01 it will show only 
every February 1.; using 2022-02-01 will add it to the keyword list 
February 1. in 2022 (but the latter will already happen if I call the 
journal tiddler 2022-02-01). Just a thought!

Best,
Anders


mandag 25. mai 2020 10.26.24 UTC+2 skrev Tony K følgende:
>
> Hello SizzlinSJ yes I did because now tabs are dynamically hidden when 
> they are empty, so I couldn't see how to fit a default tab in all that
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 10:10:17 AM UTC+3, SizzlinSJ wrote:
>>
>> It's late but, did you remove 'Select which Tab you want to be open by 
>> Default' option in update v1.20. Any reason for this? 
>>
>

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[tw5] Minimalist me: using unicode characters instead of images

[CJ Veniot]

G'day all,

Just a silly fyi in case it is of any use to anybody ...

Although I often delve in likely over-complicating by intertwingulitis, I 
do tend to keep some things just good enough.

Instead of using images/icons, I usually stick with unicode characters to 
get the job done (for all kinds of good web resources, like  
https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html.)

See this example of a use case in my RAD.sb TiddlyWiki 

. 

Cheers !

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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[TiddlyTweeter]

bimlas wrote:
>
>
> https://sociologica.unibo.it/article/view/8350/8270
>

That article is good. Very good for social scientists.

One thing in it that is well explained is how Luhmann, years before other 
sociologists, abandoned hierarchy based categories in favour of "surprising 
linked networks" (my term).

Luhmann's feeling for "linking" prefigures what came on the net. It was 
radical at the time. And, most important, it worked. In some ways maybe 
still ahead of what is actually happening.

In relation to TW I doubt Luhmann would like TOC's based on the HTML "li" 
construct, which is the narrowing tree structure he totally avoided :-).

TT


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[tw5] Re: Introducing TiddlyRemember, a tool for integrating TiddlyWiki with Anki spaced-repetition flashcards

[si]

Wow Soren this is a fantastic contribution to TiddlyWiki!

I agree that there are advantages to both the inline and separate tiddler 
approaches, so it would be cool to see that one day. I often find myself 
'working backwards' - creating Anki cards first and then later relating 
them to a TW note by adding the name of the tiddler to a field called 
"parent". I had hoped to be able to one day sync these Anki notes with my 
Wiki and have them transcluded to the bottom of their parent tiddler.

Anyway thanks this is awsome! I hope I will be able to fit it into my 
Anki/TiddlyWiki workflow.

On Monday, 25 May 2020 03:26:29 UTC+1, Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
> I'm pleased to announce the release of version 1.0 of TiddlyRemember, a 
> tool to make it easy to remember the most important bits of your notes. You 
> call out specific bits of your tiddlers that you want to remember using 
> TiddlyWiki macros, and an associated Anki  
> add-on then pulls these snippets into Anki where you can review them 
> regularly. The Anki cards link back to the tiddler they came from so you 
> can find the context if you need it, and if you edit the content in 
> TiddlyWiki or move it around, your Anki collection gets updated to match on 
> your next sync, maintaining your review history.
>
> Here's a little snip of the syntax, the rendering in a TiddlyWiki, and the 
> card in Anki (permalink to this page in the docs 
> 
> ):
>
> [image: syntax.png]
>
> There are cloze deletion cards too (if you're not a memory geek, you might 
> call these "fill in the blanks cards").
>
> Credit for this idea goes to Andy Matuschak, who reported building a 
> private tool that worked similarly for his notes system 
> . I cannot for the life of me find this 
> note now (if someone knows where it is, please post the link!).
>
> Check it out and install from here: 
> https://sobjornstad.github.io/TiddlyRemember/.
>
> I'm hoping this is a reasonably stable and functional version (thus the 
> 1.0.0 moniker), but I've only been using it myself for a couple of weeks as 
> I've been developing, and there are definitely improvements possible, so 
> suggestions and pull requests are welcome! The two biggest areas for 
> improvement I see that I'm not sure how to attack are:
>
>- You have to have TiddlyWiki installed on Node on your system to use 
>TiddlyRemember. (You can use TiddlyRemember fine with a single-file wiki 
>though. It just has to be there for TiddlyRemember to call out to.) 
> There's 
>no way around this I can think if if you want a fully automated sync (the 
>Anki add-on needs some way to run TiddlyWiki commands unless it wants to 
>duplicate the wiki parser), but I could imagine a way to use the new 
>browser-based static site generator tool as part of a two-step process 
>where you export.
>- In order to extract the questions, TiddlyRemember renders all the 
>tiddlers in your wiki and then parses the resulting HTML, which means it 
>will end up pulling multiple copies of a question if the tiddler 
> containing 
>a question is transcluded into another tiddler that's included in the 
> sync. 
>It will happily remove duplicates, but there's no way for it to tell which 
>tiddler is the "original source", so it picks whichever one it happens to 
>process first, which isn't great. I don't tend to use transclusion much 
>aside from adding templates to things and building up system tiddlers and 
>sidebar tabs, so this isn't a big deal for me, but it might be for others.
>   - I originally planned to make each question a tiddler of its own; 
>   while this seemed more philosophically pure, I eventually decided 
> against 
>   this approach because I didn't like the idea of having to separately 
> edit a 
>   bunch of subtiddlers for all of my notes, and because having the 
> question 
>   included in a tiddler allows the source to be automatically determined 
>   without having to link back to it and update it if you move the 
> question 
>   around (aside from the transclusion issue). But I could see an argument 
> for 
>   doing it as transcluded question tiddlers, and maybe we could support 
> that 
>   as an alternative method eventually (especially if it becomes easier to 
>   edit transcluded tiddlers in a future version of TiddlyWiki).
>
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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Bimlas & PMario

Both articles are very good. They overlap a bit. But they also differ in 
perspective quite a lot.

IMO *they complement each other really well*.

IF the German text were available in English along with access to the 
Sociologica article, between the two it would provide a rounded case study 
of, I think, of great interest.

TBH I found exploring Luhmann very enlightening.


Best wishes, TT

bimlas wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell from a glance, this translation is similar to it. Or 
> is it not quite the same?
>
> https://sociologica.unibo.it/article/view/8350/8270
>

PMario wrote (modified by me) ...

... think, we should try to post a translated version of the article. ...

 

https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/nachlass/zettelkasten

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[tw5] Re: Browser update to form controls and focus indicators

[TonyM]

Eric,

Thanks for the well informed heads up.

I do find it funny that browser authors can dictate what we see, without 
giving us the ability to switch back. I am not fussed about the changes, 
but some people put a lot of effort into this kind of thing only to have 
someone else decide "what is better for you", its a little dictatorial. 

Regards
Tony




On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 8:16:53 AM UTC+10, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> This morning, when I loaded my current TW project which has many input 
> forms, there was a very noticeable change in the default appearance of most 
> form inputs.
>
> After a brief investigation, it turns out that Chrome, Edge, and other 
> popular Chromium-based browsers have gotten a major facelift over the past 
> few months, and Chrome just rolled these changes in the latest update (v83)
>
> This doesn't affect non-Chromium-based browsers (e.g., FireFox, Opera, 
> etc.) and some Chromium-based browser rollouts have not yet happened (e.g., 
> Chrome for Android) but are scheduled to occur in a few months.
>
> Here's a link that shows the old vs. new appearances:
> https://blog.chromium.org/2020/03/updates-to-form-controls-and-focus.html
>
> Among the changes:
> * text input fields now have a thicker border (2px) and the focus 
> indicator is a vivid blue outline with rounded corners and 1px white margin
> * checkboxes have slightly rounded corners and, when checked, now use a 
> blue background and white checkmark
> * range sliders are slim rectangles with rounded corners, are filled with 
> blue to show the current value, and the "thumb" is a blue circle
>
> You can also see some of these changes for inputs in 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel, especially for controls in 
> the Info>Basics, Appearance>Toolbars, and Appearance>Theme Tweaks tabs
>
> For the most part, these not-so-subtle changes are generally improvements 
> in the display of form controls, and I suppose we will eventually to get 
> used to the new default styles of these input controls and design our form 
> layouts accordingly.
>
> However, the increased border-width for text input fields is more 
> disruptive for some of my *existing* form layouts:
> * when there is a 'stack' of edit fields, the borders of the fields now 
> touch without any vertical whitespace separation.
> * borders on textarea and select (listbox/droplist) controls are still 1px 
> thin lines, so they look very different from the new text input control 
> borders
>
> Fortunately, the change in text input control borders can be modified by 
> simple CSS.  To adjust the border thickness back to 1px, just create a 
> tiddler tagged with $:/tags/StyleSheet, and enter this CSS:
> input { border-width:1px; }
>
> Note that this does not affect the new text input focus indicator, which 
> will still be a vivid blue outline with rounded corners, but at least it 
> makes the input fields look *almost* like they used to.
>
> -e
>
>
>

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[tw5] Browser update to form controls and focus indicators

[Eric Shulman]

Hi All,

This morning, when I loaded my current TW project which has many input 
forms, there was a very noticeable change in the default appearance of most 
form inputs.

After a brief investigation, it turns out that Chrome, Edge, and other 
popular Chromium-based browsers have gotten a major facelift over the past 
few months, and Chrome just rolled these changes in the latest update (v83)

This doesn't affect non-Chromium-based browsers (e.g., FireFox, Opera, 
etc.) and some Chromium-based browser rollouts have not yet happened (e.g., 
Chrome for Android) but are scheduled to occur in a few months.

Here's a link that shows the old vs. new appearances:
https://blog.chromium.org/2020/03/updates-to-form-controls-and-focus.html

Among the changes:
* text input fields now have a thicker border (2px) and the focus indicator 
is a vivid blue outline with rounded corners and 1px white margin
* checkboxes have slightly rounded corners and, when checked, now use a 
blue background and white checkmark
* range sliders are slim rectangles with rounded corners, are filled with 
blue to show the current value, and the "thumb" is a blue circle

You can also see some of these changes for inputs in 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel, especially for controls in 
the Info>Basics, Appearance>Toolbars, and Appearance>Theme Tweaks tabs

For the most part, these not-so-subtle changes are generally improvements 
in the display of form controls, and I suppose we will eventually to get 
used to the new default styles of these input controls and design our form 
layouts accordingly.

However, the increased border-width for text input fields is more 
disruptive for some of my *existing* form layouts:
* when there is a 'stack' of edit fields, the borders of the fields now 
touch without any vertical whitespace separation.
* borders on textarea and select (listbox/droplist) controls are still 1px 
thin lines, so they look very different from the new text input control 
borders

Fortunately, the change in text input control borders can be modified by 
simple CSS.  To adjust the border thickness back to 1px, just create a 
tiddler tagged with $:/tags/StyleSheet, and enter this CSS:
input { border-width:1px; }

Note that this does not affect the new text input focus indicator, which 
will still be a vivid blue outline with rounded corners, but at least it 
makes the input fields look *almost* like they used to.

-e


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[tw5] Re: Hoisting Control Panel > Appearance > Theme Tweaks > Sidebar Layout

[Mat]

You can make this tiddler:

tags:  $:/tags/SideBarSegment 

text:
<$select tiddler="$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout">
Fixed-Fluid
Fluid-Fixed


Click the tag and drag'ndrop the titles therein to rearrange.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[TonyM]

I look forward to this as well

Please ask if I / we can help.

It highlights a need to increase the opportunity to "brain dump" when thinking, 
creating or taking notes in class, into tiddlywiki.

I think we could develop the approach of easy brain keyboard tiddlywiki in 
other areas as well. 

Regards
Tony

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Re: [tw5] Re: Enabling mhchem

[Kevin Kleinfelter]

Turns out I just needed to update to a newer release of the katex plugin.
tnx.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 5:12 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> It seems to work for me.
>
> Don't know much about Latex on TW, but I'm sure the following will be
> useful for debugging:
>
> What browser (incl version) and platform are you using?
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 1:56:39 PM UTC-7, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
>>
>> Is there something I have to do with the KATEX plugin to enable mhchem
>> support?
>>
>> When I embed something like this in a tiddler:
>>
>> $$
>> \ce{CO2 + C -> 2 CO}
>> $$
>>
>>
>> it renders as:
>>
>> \ceCO2+C−>2CO
>>
>> I was hoping it would render as at
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/
>>
>> I'm using the node.js TW, if that matters.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[bimlas]

PMario,

As far as I can tell from a glance, this translation is similar to it. Or 
is it not quite the same?

https://sociologica.unibo.it/article/view/8350/8270

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[tw5] Re: Enabling mhchem

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

It seems to work for me. 

Don't know much about Latex on TW, but I'm sure the following will be 
useful for debugging:

What browser (incl version) and platform are you using?


On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 1:56:39 PM UTC-7, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
>
> Is there something I have to do with the KATEX plugin to enable mhchem 
> support?
>
> When I embed something like this in a tiddler:
>
> $$
> \ce{CO2 + C -> 2 CO}
> $$
>
>
> it renders as:
>
> \ceCO2+C−>2CO
>
> I was hoping it would render as at 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/
>
> I'm using the node.js TW, if that matters.
>

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[tw5] Enabling mhchem

[Kevin Kleinfelter]

Is there something I have to do with the KATEX plugin to enable mhchem 
support?

When I embed something like this in a tiddler:

$$
\ce{CO2 + C -> 2 CO}
$$


it renders as:

\ceCO2+C−>2CO

I was hoping it would render as at 
https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/

I'm using the node.js TW, if that matters.

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[tw5] Re: using Tiddlywiki on multiple devices w/o sync issues

[Kevin Kleinfelter]

I'm generally happy with node.js serving a TW which is used by multiple 
clients.  

I have a 'personal' TW and a 'work' TW and a my wife's TW, all served up 
via a node.js instance.  I routinely access my personal TW from my work 
laptop, my personal laptop, and my chromebook.  

I've had very few data problems with this arrangement.  I don't *ever* 
update the same tiddler concurrently!  For the rare cases where I need to 
revert a change, I'm using gitwatch to auto-commit my tiddlers to git.

On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 10:35:15 AM UTC-4, Willy Tanner wrote:
>
> I am coming to depend on Tiddlywiki more and more these days and I am 
> wondering how I can use it best on multiple devices (macOS and iOS). For 
> the moment I am simply using a single html file on my iCloud Drive that I 
> am trying to remember to close once I am finished on one computer lest I 
> accidentally overwrite something with older content, thus losing all the 
> changes from in between. This is not optimal because it leaves me in a 
> constant state of anxiety (did I really shut down TW on the other 
> computer?) and also because it adds to the friction when that afterthought 
> also wants to be written (is it really important enough to merit opening TW 
> again?). 
>
> Are there more intelligent workflows for a single user scenario using 
> macOS and iOS that would alleviate the saving and syncing side of things?
>

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[PMario]

Hi Saq, 

Watching this tread with great interest. 

I'm especially interested in the keyboard driven approach, with a minimal 
interface. Bimlas's video is nice, but seems to have a lot of bells and 
whistles already. I would be more interested in the minimal underlying 
code. 

Can you send me copy with PM or point me to your repo, if it is visible. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Hoisting Control Panel > Appearance > Theme Tweaks > Sidebar Layout

[Kevin Kleinfelter]

Is there a simple way to hoist Sidebar Layout from Control Panel > 
Appearance > Theme Tweaks > Sidebar Layout 
to a button/control which is always visible on the Sidebar?

I find myself frequently changing Control Panel > Appearance > Theme Tweaks 
> Sidebar Layout.  i.e. I often change between "Fixed Story, Fluid Sidebar" 
and "Fluid Story, Fixed Sidebar".  It would be convenient if I could do 
this without drilling down into the Control Panel.

TIA

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[tw5] Re: Sharing Drift

[Tony K]

Thread bump for v0.2.0 

Drift now supports "side-by-side" tiddlers where you can "pin" a tiddler to 
the side bar and view it in parallel to the others


On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 2:37:50 AM UTC+3, Tony K wrote:
>
> Drift is now updated to *v0.2.0*
>
> Drift now has a "side-by-side" option to pin a tiddler to view it aside 
> another one.
>
> it is not as elegant as a 2-stories feature but, while waiting for Saq to 
> find time to assist this hack will do
>
> Full change log and demo site https://akhater.github.io/drift/
>
> Already running drift ?? make sure to update to the latest version 
>
>
> --
> Just wanted to share "Drift" a place to Collect Organize and Grow your 
> ideas
>
>
> It has many features but, most important for me, is the "backlinks" or 
> "bidirectional links" 
>
> Needless to say it is inspired by "TiddlyBlink" / "Stroll" just fitted to 
> my own needs and liking 
>
> A demo and more extensive documentation is available at 
>
>
> https://akhater.github.io/drift/
> Hope it will help someone
>
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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[PMario]

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 8:41:14 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
..

> I think, we should try to post a translated version of the article. ... 
> BUT I don't know, if we would have a licensing problem. Will check it.
>

OK it seems to be CC BY-NC-SA 4.0. ... So no real problem. I'll have a 
closer look. in a different thread. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[PMario]

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 11:39:29 PM UTC+2, bimlas wrote:

I think the real problem that makes me unable to marry TiddlyWiki and 
> Zettelkasten is that I still don’t quite understand how the latter works. 
> It takes time for me to understand the theoretical knowledge I read about 
> it through practice.
>

I think you are right. The system seems it has been developed over a big 
part of a lifetime of the developer. It was "learning / developing by doing"

The article mentions a card 9/8g: "(Zettel 9/8g): „man liest anders, wenn 
man auf die Möglichkeit der Verzettelung achtet“, which means "You read 
(books) differently if you have the "Verzettelung" in mind".

Where "Verzettelung" in this context means "indexing" as used in a database 
context. 

I think, we should try to post a translated version of the article. ... BUT 
I don't know, if we would have a licensing problem. Will check it.

-m

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[tw5] Re: Introducing TiddlyRemember, a tool for integrating TiddlyWiki with Anki spaced-repetition flashcards

[David Gifford]

Added this to the TiddlyWiki Toolmap under the educational aids section!

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 9:26:29 PM UTC-5, Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
> I'm pleased to announce the release of version 1.0 of TiddlyRemember, a 
> tool to make it easy to remember the most important bits of your notes. You 
> call out specific bits of your tiddlers that you want to remember using 
> TiddlyWiki macros, and an associated Anki  
> add-on then pulls these snippets into Anki where you can review them 
> regularly. The Anki cards link back to the tiddler they came from so you 
> can find the context if you need it, and if you edit the content in 
> TiddlyWiki or move it around, your Anki collection gets updated to match on 
> your next sync, maintaining your review history.
>
> Here's a little snip of the syntax, the rendering in a TiddlyWiki, and the 
> card in Anki (permalink to this page in the docs 
> 
> ):
>
> [image: syntax.png]
>
> There are cloze deletion cards too (if you're not a memory geek, you might 
> call these "fill in the blanks cards").
>
> Credit for this idea goes to Andy Matuschak, who reported building a 
> private tool that worked similarly for his notes system 
> . I cannot for the life of me find this 
> note now (if someone knows where it is, please post the link!).
>
> Check it out and install from here: 
> https://sobjornstad.github.io/TiddlyRemember/.
>
> I'm hoping this is a reasonably stable and functional version (thus the 
> 1.0.0 moniker), but I've only been using it myself for a couple of weeks as 
> I've been developing, and there are definitely improvements possible, so 
> suggestions and pull requests are welcome! The two biggest areas for 
> improvement I see that I'm not sure how to attack are:
>
>- You have to have TiddlyWiki installed on Node on your system to use 
>TiddlyRemember. (You can use TiddlyRemember fine with a single-file wiki 
>though. It just has to be there for TiddlyRemember to call out to.) 
> There's 
>no way around this I can think if if you want a fully automated sync (the 
>Anki add-on needs some way to run TiddlyWiki commands unless it wants to 
>duplicate the wiki parser), but I could imagine a way to use the new 
>browser-based static site generator tool as part of a two-step process 
>where you export.
>- In order to extract the questions, TiddlyRemember renders all the 
>tiddlers in your wiki and then parses the resulting HTML, which means it 
>will end up pulling multiple copies of a question if the tiddler 
> containing 
>a question is transcluded into another tiddler that's included in the 
> sync. 
>It will happily remove duplicates, but there's no way for it to tell which 
>tiddler is the "original source", so it picks whichever one it happens to 
>process first, which isn't great. I don't tend to use transclusion much 
>aside from adding templates to things and building up system tiddlers and 
>sidebar tabs, so this isn't a big deal for me, but it might be for others.
>   - I originally planned to make each question a tiddler of its own; 
>   while this seemed more philosophically pure, I eventually decided 
> against 
>   this approach because I didn't like the idea of having to separately 
> edit a 
>   bunch of subtiddlers for all of my notes, and because having the 
> question 
>   included in a tiddler allows the source to be automatically determined 
>   without having to link back to it and update it if you move the 
> question 
>   around (aside from the transclusion issue). But I could see an argument 
> for 
>   doing it as transcluded question tiddlers, and maybe we could support 
> that 
>   as an alternative method eventually (especially if it becomes easier to 
>   edit transcluded tiddlers in a future version of TiddlyWiki).
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Introducing TiddlyRemember, a tool for integrating TiddlyWiki with Anki spaced-repetition flashcards

[Soren Bjornstad]

Good question. This is one of the little warts in the current solution. :) 
If you made exactly the change you showed, you end up with the "new" card 
(the one with "TiddlyWiki" occluded) having the scheduling of your previous 
card with "Anki" occluded, and a new card for the existing occlusion! You 
can however avoid that 
 by 
switching to numbering the occlusions explicitly, Anki-style:

<>

In the absence of these explicit numbers, it just numbers them left to 
right. It probably wouldn't be too hard in the future to parse the note 
that's currently in Anki and attempt to catch when the implicit numbering 
has changed and is now wrong.

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-5, Henrik Hansen wrote:
>
> This is really cool and a rather neat solution :)
>
> I've written something similar for myself, because I also wanted to have 
> my flashcards within the context of my notes. It is quite powerful once you 
> get the hang of it.
>
> How do you handle cloze deletions and updating those? If I have a 
>
>
> < "TiddlyRemember integrates TiddlyWiki with {Anki}.">>
>
> then later change it to
>
>
> < "TiddlyRemember integrates {TiddlyWiki} with {Anki}.">>
>
> What will then happen with the progress of the clozes in Anki?
>

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[tw5] Re: Introducing TiddlyRemember, a tool for integrating TiddlyWiki with Anki spaced-repetition flashcards

[Henrik Hansen]

This is really cool and a rather neat solution :)

I've written something similar for myself, because I also wanted to have my 
flashcards within the context of my notes. It is quite powerful once you 
get the hang of it.

How do you handle cloze deletions and updating those? If I have a 


<>

then later change it to


<>

What will then happen with the progress of the clozes in Anki?

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 4:26:29 AM UTC+2, Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
> I'm pleased to announce the release of version 1.0 of TiddlyRemember, a 
> tool to make it easy to remember the most important bits of your notes. You 
> call out specific bits of your tiddlers that you want to remember using 
> TiddlyWiki macros, and an associated Anki  
> add-on then pulls these snippets into Anki where you can review them 
> regularly. The Anki cards link back to the tiddler they came from so you 
> can find the context if you need it, and if you edit the content in 
> TiddlyWiki or move it around, your Anki collection gets updated to match on 
> your next sync, maintaining your review history.
>
> Here's a little snip of the syntax, the rendering in a TiddlyWiki, and the 
> card in Anki (permalink to this page in the docs 
> 
> ):
>
> [image: syntax.png]
>
> There are cloze deletion cards too (if you're not a memory geek, you might 
> call these "fill in the blanks cards").
>
> Credit for this idea goes to Andy Matuschak, who reported building a 
> private tool that worked similarly for his notes system 
> . I cannot for the life of me find this 
> note now (if someone knows where it is, please post the link!).
>
> Check it out and install from here: 
> https://sobjornstad.github.io/TiddlyRemember/.
>
> I'm hoping this is a reasonably stable and functional version (thus the 
> 1.0.0 moniker), but I've only been using it myself for a couple of weeks as 
> I've been developing, and there are definitely improvements possible, so 
> suggestions and pull requests are welcome! The two biggest areas for 
> improvement I see that I'm not sure how to attack are:
>
>- You have to have TiddlyWiki installed on Node on your system to use 
>TiddlyRemember. (You can use TiddlyRemember fine with a single-file wiki 
>though. It just has to be there for TiddlyRemember to call out to.) 
> There's 
>no way around this I can think if if you want a fully automated sync (the 
>Anki add-on needs some way to run TiddlyWiki commands unless it wants to 
>duplicate the wiki parser), but I could imagine a way to use the new 
>browser-based static site generator tool as part of a two-step process 
>where you export.
>- In order to extract the questions, TiddlyRemember renders all the 
>tiddlers in your wiki and then parses the resulting HTML, which means it 
>will end up pulling multiple copies of a question if the tiddler 
> containing 
>a question is transcluded into another tiddler that's included in the 
> sync. 
>It will happily remove duplicates, but there's no way for it to tell which 
>tiddler is the "original source", so it picks whichever one it happens to 
>process first, which isn't great. I don't tend to use transclusion much 
>aside from adding templates to things and building up system tiddlers and 
>sidebar tabs, so this isn't a big deal for me, but it might be for others.
>   - I originally planned to make each question a tiddler of its own; 
>   while this seemed more philosophically pure, I eventually decided 
> against 
>   this approach because I didn't like the idea of having to separately 
> edit a 
>   bunch of subtiddlers for all of my notes, and because having the 
> question 
>   included in a tiddler allows the source to be automatically determined 
>   without having to link back to it and update it if you move the 
> question 
>   around (aside from the transclusion issue). But I could see an argument 
> for 
>   doing it as transcluded question tiddlers, and maybe we could support 
> that 
>   as an alternative method eventually (especially if it becomes easier to 
>   edit transcluded tiddlers in a future version of TiddlyWiki).
>
>

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[tw5] Re: using Tiddlywiki on multiple devices w/o sync issues

[Dave Parker]

Thanks Jed. 

I should have added that part in when I described my usage. Currently any 
script I run to start Bob also pauses the sync feature on the tiddlers folder.

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[tw5] Re: TW5: textfield in a template

[Saq Imtiaz]

>
> So it externalises the determination of the view template "pieces" to use 
> given provided conditions?
>
>
Exactly
 

> I would like to use this to replace the edit mode field handling with a 
> customised one on particular tiddlers.
>
>
I've been doing exactly this using one small part of this proposed change, 
but that required editing PageTemplate/story so this a very welcome change.

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[tw5] Refnote plugin

[Sinan Caliskan]

Hi there

I thanks to creator of bibtex import and refnote plugins. I am new to 
tiddlywiki and i am leaning to how to use. i have some problems. 

1- Bibtex imported my some referecence 
for example: this  book name  Medical Statistics: A Guide to SPSS, Data 
Analysis and Critical Appraisal to 
Medical {{Statistics}}: {{A Guide}} to {{SPSS}}, {{Data Analysis}} and 
{{Critical Appraisal}}
Barton, Belinda and Peat, Jennifer

2. Is there any way of auto suggestion while entering a reference

For example after 

[tw5] Re: TW5: textfield in a template

[TonyM]

Saq,

Thanks, 

So it externalises the determination of the view template "pieces" to use 
given provided conditions?

This seems like a very helpful hack, Using import variable on such 
templates we would also be able to reduce the global macros needed for 
specific macros for a given template. 

I would like to use this to replace the edit mode field handling with a 
customised one on particular tiddlers.

I use a tiddler field called object-type each value of which may have its 
own view and edit templates, a template tiddler, and more so this may make 
this easier without modifying the Viewtemplate order to accomodate 
additions.

Regards
Tony



On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 10:44:39 PM UTC+10, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> @TonyM in short this allows you to completely override and replace any 
> part of the ViewTemplate (or Edit) that you want to.
> Look at Joshua's example for $:/config/ViewTemplate/Body from above.
>
> [tag[$:/tags/Macro]then[$:/plugins/joshuafontany/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body
> /macro]]
> [tag[Glossary]then[$:/plugins/joshuafontany/silatglossary/ui/ViewTemplate/
> body]]
> [match[Test]then[$/plugins/joshuafontany/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body/TEST]]
>
> For the subtitle you would use similar filters in 
> $:/config/ViewTemplate/subtitle
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 2:29:09 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Joshua,
>>
>> Can you share what the implications are in your mind?
>>
>> I now have Timimi on Chrome, and read the forum in chrome. I found a nice 
>> workflow. 
>>
>>- Download the json files to a my scratch folder, but they sit in the 
>>browser footer tray
>>- Go to Tiddlywiki.com drag the json files from the footer tray on 
>>top of tiddlywiki.com
>>- I took the extra step of downloading tiddlywiki.com, double click 
>>in the download tray to open in a tab and drag the json to that for a 
>>Timimi savable test.
>>
>> You idea seems like an advance but I need to re-conceptualize this in 
>> relation to all the things I already know about viewTemplates, and how I 
>> would do what I already do.
>>
>> If we are modifying the view Templates there are a few other hackability 
>> issues that would be nice; Given the area you are modifying it makes sense 
>> to raise them here;
>>
>>- Tags to add items to the subtitle
>>- Ability to display a prefix or suffix to the title
>>   - eg if chapter number is available display that before title
>>   - even use the tiddlers position in a tag list to obtain the number
>>- Optional Extra a new float right toolbar under the existing one to 
>>add contextual buttons
>>   - Ones that appear of disappear on various tiddler or wiki wide 
>>   conditions
>>   - We can already do this with conditional code in buttons, but it 
>>   would help sort them from standard buttons if they had their own 
>> place. 
>>
>> Either you could incorporate these changes in your templates, with a view 
>> to adding them to the core as well.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 6:01:53 PM UTC+10, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, wow. This is incredibly powerful.
>>>
>>> PR is up. I have attached a *.json bundle with the tiddlers I am using 
>>> to test the rendering. 
>>> The Title and Subtitle overrides have a `name` field, like a plugin, and 
>>> this triggers a custom view template for each that pushes the title into 
>>> the subtitle, and renders the Name in the title. Both obey the 
>>> Titles-a-Links setting in $:/Config > Settings.
>>>
>>> I have also attached a *.json bundle with just the changed 
>>> shadow-tiddlers, so you could actually try this out on tiddlywiki.com by 
>>> dragging both to a tab with it loaded.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4681
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joshua Fontany
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Is it possible for TW to disable to browser refresh button?

[TonyM]

Chuck,

Yes, so arguably it saved, and there should be a backup depending on your 
save mechanism.

Now chrome and Firefox can use Timimi, I would explore than for local 
single file wikis. 

Regards
Tony

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 10:09:27 PM UTC+10, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Tony, I don't think the browser asked me that I had unsaved changes. But 
> this was about 3 months ago.
>
> I did not alter any save mechanism. I think I had it autosave every time I 
> closed the edit box when I was done editing. 
>

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[tw5] Re: [alpha testing] Drift gets TiddlyMap

[SizzlinSJ]

I did test it again but I think it was scroll bar of side bar which at 
specific size of browser window appears and disappears rapidly. But now i 
am not able to find the exact size it happens. 

Next phase is to have it in Drift, but it might be possible to do it 
> independently didn't think a lot about it yet

optional addon on TWcrosslinks page would be great. 

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 2:03:30 PM UTC+5:30, Tony K wrote:
>
> Hello SizzlinSJ
>
> Tested it. Works as it should, just the sidebar glitches when map is 
>> loading data, it moves back n forth a little.
>
>
> any chance u can share a video of that? it doesn't happen here so I am 
> wondering
>
> I hope you make it a plugin like TWcrosslinks or a addon for TiddlyMap
>
>
> Next phase is to have it in Drift, but it might be possible to do it 
> independently didn't think a lot about it yet
>
> Cheers
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: textfield in a template

[TonyM]

Post script,

A Hide-body variable/macro that would override the hide-body field if it is 
set, allowing one template to turn it off or on programmatically as 
required.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 10:29:09 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Joshua,
>
> Can you share what the implications are in your mind?
>
> I now have Timimi on Chrome, and read the forum in chrome. I found a nice 
> workflow. 
>
>- Download the json files to a my scratch folder, but they sit in the 
>browser footer tray
>- Go to Tiddlywiki.com drag the json files from the footer tray on top 
>of tiddlywiki.com
>- I took the extra step of downloading tiddlywiki.com, double click in 
>the download tray to open in a tab and drag the json to that for a Timimi 
>savable test.
>
> You idea seems like an advance but I need to re-conceptualize this in 
> relation to all the things I already know about viewTemplates, and how I 
> would do what I already do.
>
> If we are modifying the view Templates there are a few other hackability 
> issues that would be nice; Given the area you are modifying it makes sense 
> to raise them here;
>
>- Tags to add items to the subtitle
>- Ability to display a prefix or suffix to the title
>   - eg if chapter number is available display that before title
>   - even use the tiddlers position in a tag list to obtain the number
>- Optional Extra a new float right toolbar under the existing one to 
>add contextual buttons
>   - Ones that appear of disappear on various tiddler or wiki wide 
>   conditions
>   - We can already do this with conditional code in buttons, but it 
>   would help sort them from standard buttons if they had their own place. 
>
> Either you could incorporate these changes in your templates, with a view 
> to adding them to the core as well.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 6:01:53 PM UTC+10, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>>
>> Oh, wow. This is incredibly powerful.
>>
>> PR is up. I have attached a *.json bundle with the tiddlers I am using to 
>> test the rendering. 
>> The Title and Subtitle overrides have a `name` field, like a plugin, and 
>> this triggers a custom view template for each that pushes the title into 
>> the subtitle, and renders the Name in the title. Both obey the 
>> Titles-a-Links setting in $:/Config > Settings.
>>
>> I have also attached a *.json bundle with just the changed 
>> shadow-tiddlers, so you could actually try this out on tiddlywiki.com by 
>> dragging both to a tab with it loaded.
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4681
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: textfield in a template

[Saq Imtiaz]

@TonyM in short this allows you to completely override and replace any part 
of the ViewTemplate that you want to.
Look at Joshua's example for $:/config/ViewTemplate/Body from above.

[tag[$:/tags/Macro]then[$:/plugins/joshuafontany/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body/
macro]]
[tag[Glossary]then[$:/plugins/joshuafontany/silatglossary/ui/ViewTemplate/
body]]
[match[Test]then[$/plugins/joshuafontany/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body/TEST]]

For the subtitle you would use similar filters in 
$:/config/ViewTemplate/subtitle


On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 2:29:09 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Joshua,
>
> Can you share what the implications are in your mind?
>
> I now have Timimi on Chrome, and read the forum in chrome. I found a nice 
> workflow. 
>
>- Download the json files to a my scratch folder, but they sit in the 
>browser footer tray
>- Go to Tiddlywiki.com drag the json files from the footer tray on top 
>of tiddlywiki.com
>- I took the extra step of downloading tiddlywiki.com, double click in 
>the download tray to open in a tab and drag the json to that for a Timimi 
>savable test.
>
> You idea seems like an advance but I need to re-conceptualize this in 
> relation to all the things I already know about viewTemplates, and how I 
> would do what I already do.
>
> If we are modifying the view Templates there are a few other hackability 
> issues that would be nice; Given the area you are modifying it makes sense 
> to raise them here;
>
>- Tags to add items to the subtitle
>- Ability to display a prefix or suffix to the title
>   - eg if chapter number is available display that before title
>   - even use the tiddlers position in a tag list to obtain the number
>- Optional Extra a new float right toolbar under the existing one to 
>add contextual buttons
>   - Ones that appear of disappear on various tiddler or wiki wide 
>   conditions
>   - We can already do this with conditional code in buttons, but it 
>   would help sort them from standard buttons if they had their own place. 
>
> Either you could incorporate these changes in your templates, with a view 
> to adding them to the core as well.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 6:01:53 PM UTC+10, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>>
>> Oh, wow. This is incredibly powerful.
>>
>> PR is up. I have attached a *.json bundle with the tiddlers I am using to 
>> test the rendering. 
>> The Title and Subtitle overrides have a `name` field, like a plugin, and 
>> this triggers a custom view template for each that pushes the title into 
>> the subtitle, and renders the Name in the title. Both obey the 
>> Titles-a-Links setting in $:/Config > Settings.
>>
>> I have also attached a *.json bundle with just the changed 
>> shadow-tiddlers, so you could actually try this out on tiddlywiki.com by 
>> dragging both to a tab with it loaded.
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4681
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[bimlas]

Thanks for noticing, I'm sorry, I fixed it. :S

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[tw5] Re: Don't call attention to TWC

[Reto]

> One reason: I have several TWC's that cannot be 
> upgraded/transferred/modified to, to TW5 (so far). These are highly 
> functional/highly customized with plugins that don't exist in TW5 (again, 
> so far).
>

Same here: I also do have a *heavily* customized TWC including more than 
12'000 tiddlers in daily usage. For instance there are more than 70 
different lists (read: kind of reports) based on ForEachTiddler plugin. 
Only to migrate these would mean easily a person month effort. Then there 
is other custom functionality that I would have to re-implement.

I am very glad that Yakov took over the maintenance and further development 
... most feared scenario is that some browser development leads to the 
situation that TWC can't be saved anymore.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[David Gifford]

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:04 PM bimlas  wrote:

> David,
>
> ... what was your inspiration to do this?
>>
>
> I was inspired by TiddlyBlink that if TiddlyWiki could work like Roam
> Research, it could certainly mimic the much simpler Dynalist. On the other
> hand, while getting acquainted with the Zettelkasten method, I realized
> that the TiddlyWiki lacks easy handling of bullet points.
>
>
>> 2. I would recommend not using 'Dynalist' as the plugin name.
>>
>
> Én sem terveztem ennek a névnek a használatát, de a fejlesztés alatt
> megfelel, hogy valamilyen névvel tudjak hivatkozni a plugin-ra.
>

*Google Translate to the rescue!*

>
>
>
>> 3. Also, please avoid using 'table of contents' or 'outline' in the name.
>> That will greatly limit the imagination of users. In fact, This has many
>> possibilities:
>>
>
>  Thanks for the usage ideas, I didn't even think about them, I'll
> definitely put them in the documentation!
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[tw5] Re: using Tiddlywiki on multiple devices w/o sync issues

[Jed Carty]

I want to step in here and give a warning about using Bob/BobEXE with a 
file syncing application (syncthing, dropbox, etc.), there are times when 
Bob and the syncing software will get interfere with each other and either 
revert a recent edit when one changes a file while the other is preparing 
to change the same file, or in other cases you can get duplicate files.

One of the features I am currently working on for Bob will help with this 
problem, but for now it is likely to cause problems.

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[tw5] Re: TW5: textfield in a template

[TonyM]

Joshua,

Can you share what the implications are in your mind?

I now have Timimi on Chrome, and read the forum in chrome. I found a nice 
workflow. 

   - Download the json files to a my scratch folder, but they sit in the 
   browser footer tray
   - Go to Tiddlywiki.com drag the json files from the footer tray on top 
   of tiddlywiki.com
   - I took the extra step of downloading tiddlywiki.com, double click in 
   the download tray to open in a tab and drag the json to that for a Timimi 
   savable test.

You idea seems like an advance but I need to re-conceptualize this in 
relation to all the things I already know about viewTemplates, and how I 
would do what I already do.

If we are modifying the view Templates there are a few other hackability 
issues that would be nice; Given the area you are modifying it makes sense 
to raise them here;

   - Tags to add items to the subtitle
   - Ability to display a prefix or suffix to the title
  - eg if chapter number is available display that before title
  - even use the tiddlers position in a tag list to obtain the number
   - Optional Extra a new float right toolbar under the existing one to add 
   contextual buttons
  - Ones that appear of disappear on various tiddler or wiki wide 
  conditions
  - We can already do this with conditional code in buttons, but it 
  would help sort them from standard buttons if they had their own place. 
   
Either you could incorporate these changes in your templates, with a view 
to adding them to the core as well.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 6:01:53 PM UTC+10, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> Oh, wow. This is incredibly powerful.
>
> PR is up. I have attached a *.json bundle with the tiddlers I am using to 
> test the rendering. 
> The Title and Subtitle overrides have a `name` field, like a plugin, and 
> this triggers a custom view template for each that pushes the title into 
> the subtitle, and renders the Name in the title. Both obey the 
> Titles-a-Links setting in $:/Config > Settings.
>
> I have also attached a *.json bundle with just the changed 
> shadow-tiddlers, so you could actually try this out on tiddlywiki.com by 
> dragging both to a tab with it loaded.
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4681
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
>

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[tw5] Re: LaTeX.css - Make your website look like a LaTeX document

[TiddlyTweeter]

Well, I learned a lot about love-hate relationships with fonts from that 
thread :-)

I can't say I learned much about LaTex.css.

Maybe I'm not in the flow? :-)

TT

On Saturday, 23 May 2020 22:44:06 UTC+2, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> This might be of interest to the academics in the group! 
>
> Article: 
> https://latex.now.sh/
>
> HN Comments:
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23282207
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Is it possible for TW to disable to browser refresh button?

[Chuck R.]

Tony, I don't think the browser asked me that I had unsaved changes. But 
this was about 3 months ago.

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Is it possible for TW to disable to browser refresh button?

[TonyM]

Chuck

Did not the unsaved changes open a dialogue warning you are about to navigate 
away with unsaved changes.

The reason I don't think you will get what you ask for is browsers do not want 
to allow websites altering the way they operate. This is usually called 
malware. 

I suggest look closer at tiddlywiki and why it did not stop you loosing 
changes. 

Did you alter the save mechanisium, what save method was in use I assume the 
tiddlyspot one?

regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: using Tiddlywiki on multiple devices w/o sync issues

[Chuck R.]

If you set your TW to save automatically every time you end editing a 
tiddler, wouldn't get help a lot?

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[tw5] Re: [alpha testing] Drift gets TiddlyMap

[Birthe C]

Sorry Tony M,

And sorry to Bimlas too, wouldn't you think?


Birthe

mandag den 25. maj 2020 kl. 13.07.05 UTC+2 skrev TonyM:
>
> Tony K, Not Tony M This Time Bimlas.
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Is it possible for TW to disable to browser refresh button?

[Chuck R.]

Yes I checked some backups. This happened some months ago so I just wrote 
it off as a loss. I'm trying to prevent further losses in the future by 
addressing the root problem. But I don't know enough about TW to do it 
myself.

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Is it possible for TW to disable to browser refresh button?

[Birthe C]

I am not sure disabling refresh would be a good idea. Importing plugins 
containing javascript still needs you to refresh your wiki in the browser. 
Also I have found that the few times the browser goes down on me, I need to 
refresh the tab containing my tiddlywiki not to miss the latest notes I 
wrote before it happened.
Most often when my tiddlywiki is on tiddlyspot, I have the setting to 
autosave my wiki. I do so because tiddlyspot is really good with backups.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Is it possible for TW to disable to browser refresh button?

[Birthe C]

Chuck,

Even better . you might not have lost everything you wrote. You wrote, that 
your tiddlywiki is on tiddlyspot. Did you check if you have any relevant 
backup there.

That depends of course if you did save at all at any point at that time.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Is it possible for TW to disable to browser refresh button?

[Chuck R.]

I found how to disable refresh via Javascript here. I'm not sure if TW5 
uses JS. 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2482059/disable-f5-and-browser-refresh-using-javascript#7997282

But I'm not familiar with JS nor how it would affect it in this case. I 
would often open TW5 in one tab of Chrome, then open another website in 
another tab of Chrome. The second tab should have the browser refresh 
available via all methods: The refresh button, F5 and Control-R and 
whatever other method Chrome might use. I don't see a Refresh option on the 
Chrome 3 dot menu. 

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[tw5] Re: [alpha testing] Drift gets TiddlyMap

[TonyM]

Tony K, Not Tony M This Time Bimlas.

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 7:13:48 PM UTC+10, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Sorry Tony M,
>
> I am an IDIOT. I can just set the sidebar width for a more balanced view.
>
>
> Birthe
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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[TiddlyTweeter]

bimlas wrote:
>
> PMario,
>  
>
>>  Hi, .. I think the Zettelkasten system doesn't need or use tags. ... 
>> Tagging is a completely different concept, that wasn't used by Luhmann. ... 
>>
>
> Because of the implementation of Schlagwortregisterzettel (which I 
> previously known as index zettel), I was thinking of using tags. In fact, 
> of course, links can replace tags in this case.
>

Couple of footnotes.


1 - It is true, especially for his second, vast, Zettelkasten, Luhmann had 
a substantial cross-cutting "key index" he added to on slip creation, and 
sometimes later added to. In many ways similar to modern "tags" 
(non-hierarchical indices) before they existed. But they were simply access 
indexes rather than "labels" (I.e. they existed in the hand written "index" 
but were not written on the actual record slips). Its sort of tagging, but 
"looking" only from outside the actual records.

 

2 - It is worth noting that some *software implementations* of Zettlekasten 
DO add and use tags for exactly the reasons you, bimlas, advance.


Just notes
TT

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[tw5] TW5: Is it possible for TW to disable to browser refresh button?

[Chuck R.]

With TW5 we have to use the TW refresh button, not the browser refresh 
button. After doing 30 minutes of edits I was tired (and sick and on tons 
of meds) and accidentally hit the browser refresh and lost all my work. So 
in TW5 can someone make a change to disable or make the browser refresh 
button disappear? I use Chrome for TW5 files. 

The idea is when a TW file is viewed by Chrome TW would disable or hide the 
browser refresh button. My TW is on tiddlyspot.com. But when Chrome views 
other websites the refresh button would still be available.

This would be really helpful to avoid accidents like I had. I described my 
7 week cough in Jeremy's thread about his health. 

Thanks!

p.s. sorry I could not get the tags "tw5" or "tiddlywiki5" to work for this 
thread.

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[tw5] Re: Personal News

[Chuck R.]

Best of luck Jeremy. You'll do fine. 

I had flu-like symptoms on Feb 14 for 3 days. It's one of the rare times I 
got a fever. Normally with flu my joints ache, but not this time, my leg 
muscles actually ached. After 3 days I was fine except for a cough that 
would not end. Then I developed an uncontrollable cough for 7 weeks and I 
was on the most powerful cough and asthma meds during that time. They are 
expensive! During that 7 weeks I spent about $300usd on a chest xray, 
trying various medications, and the powerful asthma drugs. The asthma drug 
alone is $60/month. For people without insurance it's $600/month. 

I even lost my voice for 3 weeks and it was so raspy people had a lot of 
trouble understanding me. I think what happened is some virus irritated my 
asthma. 

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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Bimlas

A few comments you do NOT need to reply to. 

I'm mainly commenting on mental processes prior to software tools. I think 
it's interesting, but not particularly helpful to you, now.

bimlas wrote (slightly edited):
>
>  me ..
>
> 467-1a INSOMNIA (sleep disorder)
>> 732-2c INSOMNIA , 1976 (film)
>> 1034-1a INSOMNIA, 1982 (film)
>>
>>
>> The point is this example is the shown "title" would be in the caption 
>> field; the real Title is both a UID and human informative.
>>
>  

> ... I think it’s best if the notes don’t have a name, or at least treat it 
> separately from the UID, because if I change its content, its name might 
> give incorrect information about it.  if I write a “986 Naming Notes in 
> Zettelkasten” note and then realize later that this methodology doesn’t ... 
> work ... I’d like to rename it “986 Naming Notes”. 
>
 

> ... 986 as the title (... never changes), and "Naming Notes in 
> Zettelkasten" ... a caption.
>

Right. Makes great sense. Luhmann predated the PC so his approach was 
towards "don't revise, get it right at start" for both "index" & "title" 
and they are not clearly differentiated in his manual system. We have PCs 
so can hold them separately much easier now. Then they were not so 
separated.
  

>  A short UID is also good because e.g. if I make a graph from my notes, 
> their display will be uniform ...
>

Right. 
 

> The PROBLEM with going with an arbitrary UID (e.g. random nums; current 
>> date-time) is it has *no semantic content*.
>>
>> Luhmann's approach was to have "titling" that is both a unique identifier 
>> AND has some human meaningfulness
>>
>
> Even if a note has a name, in fact it will never be completely clear 
> because its context determines what effect its content achieves.
>

For example, if a note is titled "String," it says virtually nothing, 
> because it could be related to programming as well as music. The context is 
> mostly given by the text of the link pointing to it. If we just list the 
> note names, it won’t be so clear why they’re included in a given context. 
>

That is a VERY interesting point. And strongly right in one way and maybe 
wrong in another. The point is Luhmann did not have a computer so his 
mental process was likely different than ours now. His computer was largely 
in his head. Nonetheless he was able to achieve massive scale integration.

MY point here is about that in "externalising the brain" to a program do we 
actually lose out? Get conceptually lazy? Neglect our inbuilt ability at 
pattern recognition?
I'm not expecting you to answer that :-). 
But Luhmann remains a great example of exceptionally astute use of analogue 
simply structured data for purpose. (AND anticipating computers.)
 

> Also, I don’t think it’s possible to give a title to every note because 
> there’s something so abstract that it can’t be summed up in a few words. 
> For example, give a title to your most adventurous dream. 
>

Right.

Again it devolves to the scholar's context. Pre computer there was the 
general idea in social science scholarship that you *don't write 
a note unless it has clear content.* In other words, pre computer, writing 
had less "semantic gaps". With the advent of computers abstract "holding 
spaces" became much easier. At the same time it probably has also, made one 
aspect of scholarship weaker by over externalising the "brain" too early 
in a thought process.

Just comments
TT

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[tw5] Re: Personal News

[Index]

Hi Jeremy,
I am so sorry to read this...
wish you a quick recovery!

Blessings,
Index

在 2020年5月18日星期一 UTC+8下午4:59:36，Jeremy Ruston写道：
>
> I should let you all know that I have somehow contracted Covid-19, despite 
> being in careful lockdown for two months. I haven't been tested (this is 
> the UK), but the symptoms have gradually become unmistakeable over the last 
> week and a half. It's all tolerable at the moment, and I remain hopeful 
> that this is a mild dose of the disease. My doctor says that I can be 
> cautiously optimistic that I've had symptoms for so long without developing 
> the really dangerous ones. I've been told unequivocally to rest, and so 
> I'll likely be out of action for at least a few days. 
>
> I'm very happy there's so much activity on the group just now, but 
> naturally frustrated not to be able to keep up. Hopefully I'll be back 
> soon, and in the meantime please take care of yourselves and each other, 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy 
>
> -- 
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> jer...@jermolene.com  
> https://jermolene.com

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[tw5] Re: [alpha testing] Drift gets TiddlyMap

[Birthe C]

Sorry Tony M,

I am an IDIOT. I can just set the sidebar width for a more balanced view.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: [alpha testing] Drift gets TiddlyMap

[Birthe C]

Tony K,

I only meant, that it was a long way to go with the mouse, to save, create 
new tiddler and all that.

Birthe


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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ha! Of course! That is elegant. And an "elusive obvious" found.

Best, TT

On Monday, 25 May 2020 09:14:53 UTC+2, bimlas wrote:
>
> Ok, it works, I just forgot to change "caption" to "title":
>
> \define dtid-link(created) <$link to={{{ [created<__created__>] }}}><$view 
> tiddler={{{ [created<__created__>] }}} field="title"/>
>
> This <> link is created based on `created` 
> field. Try to rename the target tiddler!
>
> Try it on TW.com!
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New version of the simple calendar plugin

[Index]

Thanks Frd,
Wow, it's working right now! 
Thank you very much for your prompt and helpful reply!

Regards
Index
在 2020年5月25日星期一 UTC+8下午3:54:59，TonyM写道：
>
> Index,
>
> This is a very old thread to reopen. However I expect your problem relates 
> to the fact there is not currentTiddler variable set in the side bar,
>
> I suggest wrapping what appears in the side bar with 
> <$tiddler tiddler="TheSideBarTiddlerstitle">
> ...
> 
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 4:55:50 PM UTC+10, Index wrote:
>>
>> Hi, FrD.
>>
>> Thanks for this very very helpful tool!
>>
>> But I had a little problem today... If you tag and move it to the 
>> sidebar, the buttons at the top of the calendar click will fail. I don't 
>> know what's wrong... Could you help me?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> 在 2017年5月9日星期二 UTC+8上午1:12:16，FrD写道：
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've updated my simplecalendar macro. The code is cleaner and it's 
>>> easier to style days.
>>> Here  it is.
>>>
>>> Any feedback welcome.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> FrD
>>>
>>> PS : I still have to update the datepicker macro that goes along this 
>>> plugin ... to be done :-)
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [alpha testing] Drift gets TiddlyMap

[Tony K]

Hello SizzlinSJ

Tested it. Works as it should, just the sidebar glitches when map is 
> loading data, it moves back n forth a little.


any chance u can share a video of that? it doesn't happen here so I am 
wondering

I hope you make it a plugin like TWcrosslinks or a addon for TiddlyMap


Next phase is to have it in Drift, but it might be possible to do it 
independently didn't think a lot about it yet

Cheers


On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 9:49:20 AM UTC+3, SizzlinSJ wrote:
>
> Personally tiddly map was not useful for me but this solves a problem i 
> had with TWcrosslinks of not able to see what text is freelinked (like 
> freelinked text is highlighted in freelinks plugin). Also for which i was 
> using both plugins at same time but now i dont need to use it. 
>
> Tested it. Works as it should, just the sidebar glitches when map is 
> loading data, it moves back n forth a little.
>
> I hope you make it a plugin like TWcrosslinks or a addon for TiddlyMap
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [alpha testing] Drift gets TiddlyMap

[Tony K]

Hello Brithe

thanks for the feedback and I am glad you didn't lose data (yet) but I know 
you made a few backups before :D

 That is just my screen, but still it does not feel handy to have the 
> pagecontrols so far away in the left corner now.
>

can you please clarify a bit more this? maybe a screenshot would help

thanks 

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 12:25:03 AM UTC+3, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Tony K,
>
> I seem to have trouble reading warnings;-D I went ahead and dropped 
> all my tiddlers into it. And it does find the tiddlers and the connections. 
> It looks great. Nice job.
> On my screen I have a large map and a very pressed tiddler to the right. 
> That is just my screen, but still it does not feel handy to have the 
> pagecontrols so far away in the left corner now.
>
> I could get used to tiddlymap working like this.
>
>
> Birthe
>

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[tw5] Re: [alpha testing] Drift gets TiddlyMap

[Tony K]

Hello Saq

your input is always appreciated and yes it will be a optional add-on

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 12:20:06 AM UTC+3, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> My two pence worth: Do be wary of feature creep and keep TiddlyMap an 
> optional part of Drift.

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[tw5] Re: [Plugin] TWCrossLinks

[Tony K]

Hello SizzlinSJ yes I did because now tabs are dynamically hidden when they 
are empty, so I couldn't see how to fit a default tab in all that

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 10:10:17 AM UTC+3, SizzlinSJ wrote:
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> It's late but, did you remove 'Select which Tab you want to be open by 
> Default' option in update v1.20. Any reason for this? 
>

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[tw5] Re: [Plugin] TWCrossLinks

[Tony K]

Thank you Scott for your kind words, it really means a lot

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 9:55:22 PM UTC+3, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> Tony,
> This is a great addition! I just installed it on everything. 
>
> Have to tell you, at the beginning of last week I added Daily Notes and 
> TWCrosslinks to the main wiki I use at work and it already has made a big 
> difference in how I work. I really should pack up the other components of 
> the wiki into a plugin.
>
> Thanks again for publishing this.
> Scott
>
> On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 6:47:38 AM UTC-7, Tony K wrote:
>>
>> Thread bumb for v.0.1.20 update
>>
>> I actually love this update since it brings a feature I've been wanting 
>> to add for a long time which is "The empty tabs are now hidden" 
>>
>> Hope you enjoy
>>
>> On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 7:31:44 PM UTC+3, Tony K wrote:
>>>
>>> Update to *v0.1.20*
>>>
>>> version change log:
>>>
>>> 2020-05-22: v0.1.20
>>>
>>>- Empty tabs are not now hidden no need to look at empty spaces
>>>- Transclusion now works for keywords and tags, full Tiddler is 
>>>transcluded
>>>- Change in the transclusion css to match the selected theme
>>>
>>> full change log *here* 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Demo site https://akhater.github.io/drift
>>>
>>> Install it by Drag n Drop from https://akhater.github.io/drift or 
>>> download it directly from Github 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> As promised in my Drift thread 
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/QgPYL0JhxcY I 
>>> packaged the "Cross Links" part of Drift as a separate plugin that you can 
>>> download and install from 
>>> https://github.com/akhater/TWCrossLinks
>>>
>>> Quick Feature links
>>>
>>>- Adds a footer in the bottom of every Tiddler showing the keywords 
>>>of that tiddler (if present)
>>>- Adds a footer in the bottom of every Tiddler showing all different 
>>>types of inbound links to that tiddler (if present) 
>>>   - Backlinks 
>>>   - Tags 
>>>   - Keywords 
>>>   - Freelinks
>>>- Footer won't show unless existing
>>>
>>> For more info and a working demo please check 
>>> https://akhater.github.io/drift
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New version of the simple calendar plugin

[TonyM]

Index,

This is a very old thread to reopen. However I expect your problem relates 
to the fact there is not currentTiddler variable set in the side bar,

I suggest wrapping what appears in the side bar with 
<$tiddler tiddler="TheSideBarTiddlerstitle">
...


Regards
Tony


On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 4:55:50 PM UTC+10, Index wrote:
>
> Hi, FrD.
>
> Thanks for this very very helpful tool!
>
> But I had a little problem today... If you tag and move it to the sidebar, 
> the buttons at the top of the calendar click will fail. I don't know what's 
> wrong... Could you help me?
>
> Regards.
>
>
> 在 2017年5月9日星期二 UTC+8上午1:12:16，FrD写道：
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've updated my simplecalendar macro. The code is cleaner and it's easier 
>> to style days.
>> Here  it is.
>>
>> Any feedback welcome.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>> PS : I still have to update the datepicker macro that goes along this 
>> plugin ... to be done :-)
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[TonyM]

Bimlas,

Nice simple method. I considered this at one point and did not proceeded 
with it for a few reasons that I recall.

   - I did not know how to guarantee uniqueness, especially for imported 
   tiddlers
   - Cloning tiddlers can defeat this with duplicates
   - I noticed many system tiddlers are "created" field free.

I did actually intervene and on given tiddlers tested the created date was 
unique, and if not incremented only the milliseconds to make it unique.

   - You can test for uniqueness on tiddlers that need this serial number, 
   and I copied it to the TSN tiddler Serial Number field so I knew this test 
   had being done.
   - I decided if this were to be a potentially global serial number it 
   would consume less space to start from 1 rather than in your example 
   20,131,129,090,249,275
   - I even considered converting the generated serial number to a base 62 
   number system - 26 lower case, 26 upper case and 10 numeric to make the 
   serial number even shorter
  - Although I maintained next SN in decimal.
   
Regardless of how one sets the serial number a small set of tools would 
help, such as editor toolbar to select a link to a tiddler that uses the 
serial number.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 5:14:53 PM UTC+10, bimlas wrote:
>
> Ok, it works, I just forgot to change "caption" to "title":
>
> \define dtid-link(created) <$link to={{{ [created<__created__>] }}}><$view 
> tiddler={{{ [created<__created__>] }}} field="title"/>
>
> This <> link is created based on `created` 
> field. Try to rename the target tiddler!
>
> Try it on TW.com!
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[TiddlyTweeter]

​Birthe C wrote (layout changed by me):

> ​... ​all the great work done by Alberto Molina​ ... *​**he had to start 
> over several times*. 
>
Tags, type-field, other fields among other things. 
>
And how to put titles together. 
>
It changed from the beginning to the last incarnation, I believe it was 
> http://magictabs.tiddlyspot.com/ and http://bottomtabs.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
He obviously knew what he wanted and created beautiful tiddlywikies.
>

​Great example! Highly pertinent.​

​I'd add the finished beautiful, showcase too:​ 
http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/#William%20Shakespeare

But still not quite satisfied though.
> It seems the titles always end up being the object of discussio​n.
>

​I think it's unavoidable because of the centrality of Titling to 
ordering/access in both TW and scholarship​.
 

> Planning ahead for a life of study is not easy. 
> Luhmann found his system and stuck to it.
> Really would it be any easier for everyone to take up his system totally 
> and analogue, stick to it through life. I Doubt it.
>

​Right. But nonetheless interesting.

FWIW, when you dealing with resources external to a TW a kind of "stubborn 
materiality" (actual singular objects) remains important.
For instance cataloging art works​ and discussing them.
Or, at a slightly more abstract level, film appreciation where one may be 
interested in different "vectors" (title, genre, style etc., etc)

The Luhmann & Molina's strongly *commit *towards a solution finding *their* 
"practical contexts of meaning".

My point in the OP was to try make clear there is no *one *way. You can use 
TW like *driving *a car made of fragments. And also *build *a new car that 
makes-up the fragments differently.

In an a way its obvious. But its not maybe as explicit as it could be that 
we are overwhelmingly "wet-ware" first :-)

Thoughts
TT

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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[bimlas]

Ok, it works, I just forgot to change "caption" to "title":

\define dtid-link(created) <$link to={{{ [created<__created__>] }}}><$view 
tiddler={{{ [created<__created__>] }}} field="title"/>

This <> link is created based on `created` 
field. Try to rename the target tiddler!

Try it on TW.com!

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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[bimlas]

I just realized that the "created" field can be used as a DTID and we can 
easily create links by a simple macro:

<$link to={{{ [created[20181122141438931]] }}}><$view tiddler={{{ 
[created[20181122141438931]] }}} field="caption"/>

PS.: Because of the syntax, I simply can't convert it to a macro because I 
can't use the datetime macro parameter as a variable in the filter.

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[tw5] Re: [Plugin] TWCrossLinks

[SizzlinSJ]

It's late but, did you remove 'Select which Tab you want to be open by 
Default' option in update v1.20. Any reason for this? 

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[tw5] Re: Query: What is a fragment?

[TiddlyTweeter]

bimlas wrote:
>
> I think the real problem that makes me unable to marry TiddlyWiki and 
> Zettelkasten is that I still don’t quite understand how the latter works. 
> It takes time for me to understand the theoretical knowledge I read about 
> it through practice.
>

One of the reasons Luhmann can be difficult to grasp--and by extension 
Zettelkasten--is actually quite a lot that is *implicit* is going on 
(meaning a lot was in Luhmann's "head", not explicated). But Luhmann 
successfully used the boxes of slip notes to facilitate *emergent knowing *in 
an unusually efficient way.

Just a comment
TT

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New version of the simple calendar plugin

[Index]

Hi, FrD.

Thanks for this very very helpful tool!

But I had a little problem today... If you tag and move it to the sidebar, 
the buttons at the top of the calendar click will fail. I don't know what's 
wrong... Could you help me?

Regards.


在 2017年5月9日星期二 UTC+8上午1:12:16，FrD写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> I've updated my simplecalendar macro. The code is cleaner and it's easier 
> to style days.
> Here  it is.
>
> Any feedback welcome.
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> PS : I still have to update the datepicker macro that goes along this 
> plugin ... to be done :-)
>

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[tw5] Re: [alpha testing] Drift gets TiddlyMap

[SizzlinSJ]

Personally tiddly map was not useful for me but this solves a problem i had 
with TWcrosslinks of not able to see what text is freelinked (like 
freelinked text is highlighted in freelinks plugin). Also for which i was 
using both plugins at same time but now i dont need to use it. 

Tested it. Works as it should, just the sidebar glitches when map is 
loading data, it moves back n forth a little.

I hope you make it a plugin like TWcrosslinks or a addon for TiddlyMap



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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

[Jon]

I haven't used the text slicer plugin enough to appreciate the differences, 
but I'd very much look forward to trying your version.

Regards
Jon

On Monday, 25 May 2020 07:19:37 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> That looks very exciting!
>
> Am I right in thinking the aim is be able, for instance, to throw in a 
> text doc that on save is split to component sections (paras / blocks), all 
> of which remain accessible for direct edit from the first "mother" tiddler 
> in the exact original order? If so its incredibly useful.
>
> Have I understood?
>
> TT
>
> On Monday, 25 May 2020 05:17:07 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I'm working on a simple editor for TW. It combines ideas from the Slicer 
>> edition plus the idea of object creation from TiddlyBlink to create a 
>> somewhat Dynalist-like experience (except no outlining yet). In Dynalist 
>> you seamlessly switch from display mode to edit mode by just clicking on 
>> the working text.
>>
>> Has something like this already been done? Does this look useful? Or just 
>> more of the same?
>>
>> Note: In the following, you should see screenshots. Sometimes GG likes to 
>> omit them ...
>>
>> You start with your editor like this. The existing tiddlers are clickable 
>> text:
>>
>>
>> Clicking on a link opens up an editor where you can add more text
>>
>> :
>>
>> When you close the editor, paragraphs are split out into their own 
>> editable sections:
>>
>> Behind the scenes, tiddlers are created based on the original (pre-split) 
>> tiddler name. Everything is held together by a common tag, which also 
>> provides the ordering.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

[TiddlyTweeter]

That looks very exciting!

Am I right in thinking the aim is be able, for instance, to throw in a text 
doc that on save is split to component sections (paras / blocks), all of 
which remain accessible for direct edit from the first "mother" tiddler in 
the exact original order? If so its incredibly useful.

Have I understood?

TT

On Monday, 25 May 2020 05:17:07 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm working on a simple editor for TW. It combines ideas from the Slicer 
> edition plus the idea of object creation from TiddlyBlink to create a 
> somewhat Dynalist-like experience (except no outlining yet). In Dynalist 
> you seamlessly switch from display mode to edit mode by just clicking on 
> the working text.
>
> Has something like this already been done? Does this look useful? Or just 
> more of the same?
>
> Note: In the following, you should see screenshots. Sometimes GG likes to 
> omit them ...
>
> You start with your editor like this. The existing tiddlers are clickable 
> text:
>
>
> Clicking on a link opens up an editor where you can add more text
>
> :
>
> When you close the editor, paragraphs are split out into their own 
> editable sections:
>
> Behind the scenes, tiddlers are created based on the original (pre-split) 
> tiddler name. Everything is held together by a common tag, which also 
> provides the ordering.
>
>
>

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