subject:"\[tw\] Re\: \[TW5\] \"Muuri\-Touch\" plugin"

Hello Wei-Ting,

I use popmotion only for zooming right now, it was just easier to do with 
popmotion.
There are many other things that could be done with it

If you find a better way to do things, don't hesitate to contribute :)

Simon


Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 01:31:49 UTC+1 schrieb Wei-Ting Lin:
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> I found you use hammer.js and popmotion.js. Both of them look like 
> libraries handling dragging. What is the difference?
>
> Best,
> Wei-Ting
>
> BurningTreeC於 2018年1月9日星期二 UTC-6下午2時21分02秒寫道：
>>
>> @Wei-Ting Lin,
>>
>> again to your idea for configurable "free dragging"
>>
>> I think we have to ways to go there, because of the popmotion library 
>> that I also use
>> one could make it configurable so that muuri dragging doesn't get used 
>> and free dragging like here: https://popmotion.io/learn/input-tracking/ 
>> would be used instead.
>>
>> thanks for the idea, it's a cool option
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM

BurningTreeC,

Just did a drive by review of the development state, an observation.

This is only blueSky thinking, keep it for later, no need to act on these 
ideas.

I saw a "phone_android" overlay on the demo site, and it made me think of 
something.

It would be a great feature if we could open a Murri view and see all 
displayed tiddlers, but on touching, click and move etc.. indicate it has 
being touched/moved. 

An example may be a subtle green boarder that turns red on click and back 
to green on another click. This would allow us to quickly identify tiddlers 
we have displayed, visited in this session.
This would help using the board to prompt reviews, display slides in a 
presentation and much more. Its about the meta handling of items on the 
"board".

I then considered the possibility of adding a third dimension to the board 
like graphics packages that let you specify on which layer an object is 
placed. Imagine a translucent background layer under which you could push a 
tile, in effect indicating you are done with it, whilst maintaining it in 
the tiled view. Made more generically perhaps we could set the Z value on 
each tiddler and be able to add translucent images to other layers.

Love your work
Tony  

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 17:04:51 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread Wei-Ting Lin

Hi Simon,

I found you use hammer.js and popmotion.js. Both of them look like 
libraries handling dragging. What is the difference?

Best,
Wei-Ting

BurningTreeC於 2018年1月9日星期二 UTC-6下午2時21分02秒寫道：
>
> @Wei-Ting Lin,
>
> again to your idea for configurable "free dragging"
>
> I think we have to ways to go there, because of the popmotion library that 
> I also use
> one could make it configurable so that muuri dragging doesn't get used and 
> free dragging like here: https://popmotion.io/learn/input-tracking/ would 
> be used instead.
>
> thanks for the idea, it's a cool option
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread Wei-Ting Lin

Hello Simon,

Thank you for replying me. That's interesting. I will study these to see 
how they work. And probably we can implement some of them.

Wei-Ting

BurningTreeC於 2018年1月9日星期二 UTC-6下午2時21分02秒寫道：
>
> @Wei-Ting Lin,
>
> again to your idea for configurable "free dragging"
>
> I think we have to ways to go there, because of the popmotion library that 
> I also use
> one could make it configurable so that muuri dragging doesn't get used and 
> free dragging like here: https://popmotion.io/learn/input-tracking/ would 
> be used instead.
>
> thanks for the idea, it's a cool option
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@Wei-Ting Lin,

again to your idea for configurable "free dragging"

I think we have to ways to go there, because of the popmotion library that 
I also use
one could make it configurable so that muuri dragging doesn't get used and 
free dragging like here: https://popmotion.io/learn/input-tracking/ would 
be used instead.

thanks for the idea, it's a cool option

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin



Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2018 19:03:12 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello, Wei-Ting Lin,
>
> Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2018 18:15:20 UTC+1 schrieb Wei-Ting Lin:
>>
>> Hi there, 
>>
>> This is a fantastic plugin. I always think that tiddlywiki should have a 
>> story view like this. Now I think it can replace Google Keep and actually 
>> much better.
>>
>> I have some ideas:
>>
>> 1. Resizing or zooming by mouse:
>> There are still laptops without touch screens, like mine. And I guess 
>> most desktop displays do not have touch screens, either.
>>
>
> I've thought about that before, I want to implement that but there are 
> other things that come first.
> Right now you can add a field called "span" to tiddlers containing a value 
> from 2 - 12. that applies different widths to them 
>
>>
>> 2. Manual mode:
>> The automatic grid layout is remarkable, but sometimes we would still 
>> like to arrange notes by ourselves, in order to get a suitable view of the 
>> workplace.
>> I would say this is a big advantage of Microsoft OneNote: You can put 
>> anything anywhere on the workplace.
>>
>
> Yes, that'd be a nice thing to have. It's not that intuitive to implement 
> with the underlying muuri engine. muuri in fact is about sorting in grid 
> layouts. but with a little different approach this could be done.
> I think about having an invisible grid with smaller invisible tiles where 
> you can move your tiddlers freely.
> Try the "populate this wiki with images" button on the demo page.  they 
> hold tiddlers in place if you move them between them.If those small 
> elements were invisible...
>
>>
>> If this can be made, then we can not just turn on/off necessary notes, 
>> but also put them wherever we want! I would say this can beat OneNote.
>>
>> These just my random thoughts. Anyway, thanks for your great work!
>>
>
> the idea to be able to beat onenote is a good motivation ;)
>
> best wishes,
> Simon
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-06 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

Hello, Wei-Ting Lin,

Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2018 18:15:20 UTC+1 schrieb Wei-Ting Lin:
>
> Hi there, 
>
> This is a fantastic plugin. I always think that tiddlywiki should have a 
> story view like this. Now I think it can replace Google Keep and actually 
> much better.
>
> I have some ideas:
>
> 1. Resizing or zooming by mouse:
> There are still laptops without touch screens, like mine. And I guess most 
> desktop displays do not have touch screens, either.
>

I've thought about that before, I want to implement that but there are 
other things that come first.
Right now you can add a field called "span" to tiddlers containing a value 
from 2 - 12. that applies different widths to them 

>
> 2. Manual mode:
> The automatic grid layout is remarkable, but sometimes we would still like 
> to arrange notes by ourselves, in order to get a suitable view of the 
> workplace.
> I would say this is a big advantage of Microsoft OneNote: You can put 
> anything anywhere on the workplace.
>

Yes, that'd be a nice thing to have. It's not that intuitive to implement 
with the underlying muuri engine. muuri in fact is about sorting in grid 
layouts. but with a little different approach this could be done.
I think about having an invisible grid with smaller invisible tiles where 
you can move your tiddlers freely.
Try the "populate this wiki with images" button on the demo page. If those 
small elements were invisible they would hold tiddlers in place where you 
put them 

>
> If this can be made, then we can not just turn on/off necessary notes, but 
> also put them wherever we want! I would say this can beat OneNote.
>
> These just my random thoughts. Anyway, thanks for your great work!
>

the idea to be able to beat onenote is a good motivation ;)

best wishes,
Simon

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread Wei-Ting Lin

Hi there, 

This is a fantastic plugin. I always think that tiddlywiki should have a 
story view like this. Now I think it can replace Google Keep and actually 
much better.

I have some ideas:

1. Resizing or zooming by mouse:
There are still laptops without touch screens, like mine. And I guess most 
desktop displays do not have touch screens, either.

2. Manual mode:
The automatic grid layout is remarkable, but sometimes we would still like 
to arrange notes by ourselves, in order to get a suitable view of the 
workplace.
I would say this is a big advantage of Microsoft OneNote: You can put 
anything anywhere on the workplace.

If this can be made, then we can not just turn on/off necessary notes, but 
also put them wherever we want! I would say this can beat OneNote.

These just my random thoughts. Anyway, thanks for your great work!

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-07 Thread BurningTreeC

Hello @Mat,

Am Sonntag, 7. Januar 2018 14:50:49 UTC+1 schrieb Mat:
>
> Some basic questions, sorry if this is already answered*
>
> 1) Would this work in single file TW?
>

it's working on single-file TiddlyWiki and node.js TiddlyWiki, too. I've 
never tried it with tiddlyDesktop though
 

> 2) If 'no'; does it work in nodejs TW without external libraries
>

stupid question coming here:  what do you mean with external? muuri.js, 
hammer.js, web-animations.js and popmotion.js are external libraries used 
here. they're included in the plugin, that's why I ask what you mean with 
external.

you can drag the plugin to your single-file wiki as to your wiki running on 
nodejs (and hope it works, fingers crossed)

>
> Thanx
>
> <:-)
>
> * ~100 post thread is just too much to read.Maybe @BurningTreeC could 
> summarize the need-to-know stuff and edit it into the initial post?
>

yes, thanks for the note! it went a little bit out of control on my side...
I need some time to pre-summarize it in my head then @BurningTreeC will 
edit the initial post

thanks and cheers from austria,
Simon

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-07 Thread Mat

Some basic questions, sorry if this is already answered*

1) Would this work in single file TW?
2) If 'no'; does it work in nodejs TW without external libraries

Thanx

<:-)

* ~100 post thread is just too much to read.Maybe @BurningTreeC could 
summarize the need-to-know stuff and edit it into the initial post?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-07 Thread BurningTreeC

Hello community,

*I'd need some help with a Button, maybe someone of you knows if this is 
possible*

the patient that needs surgery is the enable/disable dragging button

the problem is that he must toggle a full reload of muuri and that causes 
the storyview to scroll to the top

now if you trigger it from within a tiddler you have the storyTiddler 
variable with its title available inside the button

with that variable I'd like to scroll back to the tiddler where it was 
triggered.

here the code of the Button:


<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!drag-enabled" type="nomatch" text="yes">
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-toolbar-icon tc-dragging-button" 
tooltip="enable dragging">

this is the "reload muuri" stuff:

<$fieldmangler tiddler="$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/muuri">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" 
$param="$:/tags/PageTemplate"/><$action-setfield 
$tiddler="$:/view" $value=""/><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" 
$field="drag-enabled" $value="yes"/><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/view" 
$value="muuri"/><$fieldmangler 
tiddler="$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/muuri"><$action-sendmessage 
$message="tm-add-tag" $param="$:/tags/PageTemplate"/>

here reloading was triggered but takes some time. I tried <$action-navigate 
$to=<> $scroll="yes"/> and also <$action-sendmessage 
$message="tm-navigate" navigateTo=<>/>
tried it in various ways, with some filters to prevent triggering 
navigation from the leftbar, with "waitLoops" before the navigate message 
that create senseless invisible lists just to wait long enough that the 
storyriver is rerendered ...

I have the suspicion that something doesn't work like I'm imaging it. I 
thought I had done something like this before but I can't remember if I 
stacked it in macros or whatever the trick was... 

<>




I appreciate every comment!

kind regards,
BurningTreeC

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-06 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> After updating to FF 55 the problem is gone.  But also you seem to have 
> invested a lot of coding meanwhile...
>
>
that's good news! not much coding in the meantime, I just removed the css 
animations I added yesterday. I had the suspicion that FF doesn't like 

> ***For the swiping gestures, if you like we can try to hack on it a bit. I 
> could make a tiddlyspot wiki for that and leave some infos there where to 
> look into.***
>
> This would be absolutely great. Swipe would help me a lot getting onward 
> with the presenter_plugin and the smartphonemenu I work on (both visible at 
> slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com)
>

let's do it - see your private inbox

>
> Best wishes  Jan 
>

thanks, all the best,
Simon 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-06 Thread Jan


Hello Simon,

Thanks a lot. I tried it on the muritest site. Good news: After updating 
to FF 55 the problem is gone.  But also you seem to have invested a lot 
of coding meanwhile...


   ***For the swiping gestures, if you like we can try to hack on it a
   bit. I could make a tiddlyspot wiki for that and leave some infos
   there where to look into.***

This would be absolutely great. Swipe would help me a lot getting onward 
with the presenter_plugin and the smartphonemenu I work on (both visible 
at slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com).


Best wishes  Jan




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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-06 Thread David Gifford

Thanks Simon! I had that one on the Dynalist site, but didn't realize those
were demos of that.

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On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:12 AM, BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> @David Gifford,
>
> sorry for the spelling error!
>
> The links were all examples from this page: http://evanbalster.com/
> tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>
> you'll find the examples under "Demo..."
>
>
> I hope you don't get the errors anymore, I'm not sure what this is, I'll
> have to inspect it on my windows+firefox
>
> all the best,
> Simon
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-06 Thread BurningTreeC

@David Gifford,

sorry for the spelling error!

The links were all examples from this 
page: http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html

you'll find the examples under "Demo..."


I hope you don't get the errors anymore, I'm not sure what this is, I'll 
have to inspect it on my windows+firefox

all the best,
Simon

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

I have the same thing on Firefox on Windows 10

On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 7:39:24 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> BurningTreeC
>
> I love how you plough on with work on muuri. Its really interesting to see 
> you work & play with innovation so quickly.
>
> Today I'm seeing a bit of a mess on open (FF 52.5.2, 64 bit, Windows 7, 
> screen in Portrait on desktop) :-). 
>
>
>
> I'm sure tomorrow it with be cleaned up :-) 
>
> Josiah, x
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> UPDATE:
>>
>> updated to v0.0.12
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-06 Thread David Gifford

p.s. Gifford, not Grifford

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On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 8:43 AM, David Gifford  wrote:

> The tiddler title was 'These are so cool I have to show them off' or
> something like that. Links to...don't know what you would call them, but
> animations you can manipulate with controls
>
> David Gifford
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> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:48 AM, BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> @Dave Grifford
>>
>> Am Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 21:41:27 UTC+1 schrieb Dave Gifford -
>> http://www.giffmex.org/:
>>>
>>> You keep taking tiddlers out of your muritest wiki. Where are the links
>>> to the interesting visual formulas on a different TW? I went to your site
>>> to find those links to add them to my index
>>>
>>> Sorry, I can put them back online. Could you please explain a bit which
>> links you're interested in?
>>
>> kind regards,
>> Simon
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-06 Thread David Gifford

The tiddler title was 'These are so cool I have to show them off' or
something like that. Links to...don't know what you would call them, but
animations you can manipulate with controls

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On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:48 AM, BurningTreeC 
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> @Dave Grifford
>
> Am Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 21:41:27 UTC+1 schrieb Dave Gifford -
> http://www.giffmex.org/:
>>
>> You keep taking tiddlers out of your muritest wiki. Where are the links
>> to the interesting visual formulas on a different TW? I went to your site
>> to find those links to add them to my index
>>
>> Sorry, I can put them back online. Could you please explain a bit which
> links you're interested in?
>
> kind regards,
> Simon
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-06 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

BurningTreeC

I love how you plough on with work on muuri. Its really interesting to see 
you work & play with innovation so quickly.

Today I'm seeing a bit of a mess on open (FF 52.5.2, 64 bit, Windows 7, 
screen in Portrait on desktop) :-). 



I'm sure tomorrow it with be cleaned up :-) 

Josiah, x

BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> UPDATE:
>
> updated to v0.0.12
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-06 Thread BurningTreeC

UPDATE:

updated to v0.0.12

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@Dave Grifford

Am Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 21:41:27 UTC+1 schrieb Dave Gifford - 
http://www.giffmex.org/:
>
> You keep taking tiddlers out of your muritest wiki. Where are the links to 
> the interesting visual formulas on a different TW? I went to your site to 
> find those links to add them to my index
>
> Sorry, I can put them back online. Could you please explain a bit which 
links you're interested in?

kind regards,
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@Jan,

http://hammer-it.tiddlyspot.com/

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-05 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

Hello Jan,

what version of firefox are you using? are you on windows osx or mac? is 
this happening on muritest.tiddlyspot.com or do you have a testing wiki 
where you put the plugin inside?

the currently used plugin version is not packed, there are some shadow 
tiddlers that have changed. if you get the plugin right now you get it 
without those changes and it may be that there's a typo somewhere or an 
inconsistent state.

I'm going to pack it with the actual state which seems to be the best til 
now. so if you want to hack on it, I'm gonna call it 0.0.12 - wait until 
that version is online, that's the current state

For the swiping gestures, if you like we can try to hack on it a bit. I 
could make a tiddlyspot wiki for that and leave some infos there where to 
look into.

What do you think?

best wishes,
Simon

Am Samstag, 6. Januar 2018 03:14:30 UTC+1 schrieb Jan:
>
> Hi Simon, with pleasure
>
> below you will find the two errorscreens it shows. They can be closed but 
> the effect in my firefox is that all Tiddlers are stacked one over the 
> other in the same place, as well as the images.
> The touch effect in you implemented is great...i could not find that on 
> the material side.
>
> As I told you I would like to swipe to move forward or backward or show 
> the menu. The pinching and twisting possible in your demonstration is a 
> great UserExperience. I like it best before it snaps to the grid.  I would 
> love to have a view in TW where it is possible to arrange Tiddlers 
> arbitrarily. Jeremy did Test called cecily 
> https://jermolene.com/cecily/index.html which aimed to establish 
> this...it survived  here https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/introduction/ 
> but theres no way to save cecily views. Perhaps this libray could make this 
> possible.
>
> Best wishes Jan
>
>
> Internal JavaScript Error 
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
> by refreshing your browser
> TypeError: Muuri is not a constructor
> Internal JavaScript Error 
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
> by refreshing your browser
> Syntax error in boot module $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/lib/muuri.js:4303: 
> _boot/$tw.utils.evalGlobal@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:21769:8 
> _boot/$tw.modules.execute@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22058:5 
> _boot/$tw.modules.execute/sandbox.require@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22005:12 
> @$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/muuri.js:19:15 
> @$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/muuri.js:10:1 
> @$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/muuri.js:1:106 
> _boot/$tw.utils.evalGlobal@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:21774:9 
> _boot/$tw.modules.execute@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22058:5 
> _boot/$tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType/<@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22098:18 _boot/$tw.utils.each@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:21404:12 
> _boot/$tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22097:2 _boot/$tw.modules.applyMethods@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22121:2 
> Widget.protot...@$:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:50:36  
> Wid...@$:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:27:3  
> exports...@$:/core/modules/startup.js:95:20  
> _boot/$tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23398:5 
> _boot/$tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23402:12 
> _boot/$tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23402:12 _boot/$tw.boot.startup@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23355:2 _boot/$tw.boot.boot/<@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23508:3 
> _boot/$tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22700:3 _boot/$tw.boot.boot@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23506:2 _boot@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23515:2 @
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23525:2 
>
>
> Am 05.01.2018 um 15:42 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello Jan,
> thank you very much,
>
> kudos should also go to https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ who 
> made the plugin my hacks are built on
>
> could you describe when the red screens happen on your firefox? it's been 
> a while that I tried it on other browsers than chromium
>
> a known issue is, that dragging links can cause something with "cannot set 
> effectAllowed of undefined" - that's because my hammer.js dragging and 
> tiddlywiki dragging are not best friends at the moment
>
>
> For the hammer.js library you'd like to use - do you just want permission 
> to grab it - you have my go it's OSS you can get it on github - or do you 
> need something more?
> What do you mean by swipe gesture? Right now, there's no swipe gesture 
> implemented.
> There are different recognizers inside hammer - dragging, pinch/zoom, 
> tapping, swipe, press, ... see here: 
> http://hammerjs.github.io/getting-started/
> In my demo there's the Pan and the Pinch recognizer working
>
> kind regards,
> Simon
>
> Am Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 12:55:45 UTC+1 schrieb Jan: 
>>
>> Hi BurningTree
>> A great job you d

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-05 Thread Jan

Hi Simon, with pleasure

below you will find the two errorscreens it shows. They can be closed
but the effect in my firefox is that all Tiddlers are stacked one over
the other in the same place, as well as the images.
The touch effect in you implemented is great...i could not find that on
the material side.

As I told you I would like to swipe to move forward or backward or show
the menu. The pinching and twisting possible in your demonstration is a
great UserExperience. I like it best before it snaps to the grid. I
would love to have a view in TW where it is possible to arrange Tiddlers
arbitrarily. Jeremy did Test called cecily
https://jermolene.com/cecily/index.html which aimed to establish
this...it survived here https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/introduction/
but theres no way to save cecily views. Perhaps this libray could make
this possible.

Best wishes Jan

Internal JavaScript Error

Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart
TiddlyWiki by refreshing your browser

TypeError: Muuri is not a constructor

Internal JavaScript Error

Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart
TiddlyWiki by refreshing your browser
Syntax error in boot module
$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/lib/muuri.js:4303:
_boot/$tw.utils.evalGlobal@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:21769:8
_boot/$tw.modules.execute@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22058:5
_boot/$tw.modules.execute/sandbox.require@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22005:12
@$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/muuri.js:19:15
@$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/muuri.js:10:1
@$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/muuri.js:1:106
_boot/$tw.utils.evalGlobal@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:21774:9
_boot/$tw.modules.execute@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22058:5
_boot/$tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType/<@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22098:18
_boot/$tw.utils.each@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:21404:12
_boot/$tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22097:2
_boot/$tw.modules.applyMethods@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22121:2
Widget.prototype.initialise@$:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:50:36
Widget@$:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:27:3
exports.startup@$:/core/modules/startup.js:95:20
_boot/$tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23398:5
_boot/$tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23402:12
_boot/$tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23402:12
_boot/$tw.boot.startup@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23355:2
_boot/$tw.boot.boot/<@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23508:3
_boot/$tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22700:3
_boot/$tw.boot.boot@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23506:2
_boot@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23515:2
@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23525:2

Am 05.01.2018 um 15:42 schrieb BurningTreeC:

Hello Jan,
thank you very much,

kudos should also go to https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ who
made the plugin my hacks are built on

could you describe when the red screens happen on your firefox? it's
been a while that I tried it on other browsers than chromium

a known issue is, that dragging links can cause something with "cannot
set effectAllowed of undefined" - that's because my hammer.js dragging
and tiddlywiki dragging are not best friends at the moment

For the hammer.js library you'd like to use - do you just want
permission to grab it - you have my go it's OSS you can get it on
github - or do you need something more?
What do you mean by swipe gesture? Right now, there's no swipe gesture
implemented.
There are different recognizers inside hammer - dragging, pinch/zoom,
tapping, swipe, press, ... see
here: http://hammerjs.github.io/getting-started/

In my demo there's the Pan and the Pinch recognizer working

kind regards,
Simon

Am Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 12:55:45 UTC+1 schrieb Jan:

Hi BurningTree
A great job you did there. The gridview is a very useful feature.
I would be especially keen to use the hammer.js library you
implemented. I would love to have the swipe gesture it also could
procure for my own purposes.
Can I use or configure it somehow?

Yours Jan

One minor bug. Muri show two red screens on my firefox but works
fine with safari and chrome.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

You keep taking tiddlers out of your muritest wiki. Where are the links to 
the interesting visual formulas on a different TW? I went to your site to 
find those links to add them to my index

On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@TiddlyTweeter,

you're welcome!
it was a quick thing, I have everything backed up, just copy-paste

what you say about modals is true - having an overview inside the grid and 
a big picture with a modal is a fine thing

have you seen the magic tiddly button on the page? do you get where this 
wants to go and what do you think about it


best wishes,
Simon

Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2018 17:34:57 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao Simon
>
> Thank you very much for making time to do that.
>
> BTW, in design terms I think modals fit well with gridded layouts, 
> especially for showing imagery.
>
> Anyway that auto-populate with modal invoke really helps me get a next 
> step. Grazie mille!
>
> Josiah
>
> Ciao BurningTreeC wrote ...
>
> I've put the auto-populate thing back on the page, now it generates images 
>> that open a modal
>>
>> Now muuri is able to store the ordering of grids in lists, there are two 
>> simple demos on the page if you switch to classic storyview
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Hello Jan,
thank you very much,

kudos should also go to https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ who made 
the plugin my hacks are built on

could you describe when the red screens happen on your firefox? it's been a 
while that I tried it on other browsers than chromium

a known issue is, that dragging links can cause something with "cannot set 
effectAllowed of undefined" - that's because my hammer.js dragging and 
tiddlywiki dragging are not best friends at the moment


For the hammer.js library you'd like to use - do you just want permission 
to grab it - you have my go it's OSS you can get it on github - or do you 
need something more?
What do you mean by swipe gesture? Right now, there's no swipe gesture 
implemented.
There are different recognizers inside hammer - dragging, pinch/zoom, 
tapping, swipe, press, ... see 
here: http://hammerjs.github.io/getting-started/
In my demo there's the Pan and the Pinch recognizer working

kind regards,
Simon

Am Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 12:55:45 UTC+1 schrieb Jan:
>
> Hi BurningTree
> A great job you did there. The gridview is a very useful feature. 
> I would be especially keen to use the hammer.js library you implemented. I 
> would love to have the swipe gesture it also could procure for my own 
> purposes.
> Can I use or configure it somehow?
>
> Yours Jan
>
> One minor bug. Muri show two red screens on my firefox but works fine with 
> safari and chrome.
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-05 Thread Jan

Hi BurningTree
A great job you did there. The gridview is a very useful feature.
I would be especially keen to use the hammer.js library you implemented.
I would love to have the swipe gesture it also could procure for my own
purposes.

Can I use or configure it somehow?

Yours Jan

One minor bug. Muri show two red screens on my firefox but works fine
with safari and chrome.

Am 04.01.2018 um 11:34 schrieb BurningTreeC:
UPDATE: now there's a testing version online that works better. still
I don't know if it works stable in regard of zooming.

there's no packed plugin right now, just the preview version

please leave a comment if you test it and it doesn't make sense to
you, and if it does, please leave a comment, too ;)

there's a new button on the tiddlers that's meant to reset the applied
widths that get set when you pinch-zoom on tiddlers. This button could
be a simple dot in the top left corner for example. now I'd just focus
on function and if it's useful.

the toggle columns button resets applied widths by pinch-zoom. I think
that's more what one expects when toggling through columns.

I could make a "backup" of applied widths while toggling throug
columns and the before mentioned "reset button" could be two-state, so
that he also can reset a backed-up width.

I'm curious what you think about this whole functionality, it surely
has to be refined and debugged.

kind regards,
BurningTreeC
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-04 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

Ciao Simon

Thank you very much for making time to do that.

BTW, in design terms I think modals fit well with gridded layouts, 
especially for showing imagery.

Anyway that auto-populate with modal invoke really helps me get a next 
step. Grazie mille!

Josiah

Ciao BurningTreeC wrote ...

I've put the auto-populate thing back on the page, now it generates images 
> that open a modal
>
> Now muuri is able to store the ordering of grids in lists, there are two 
> simple demos on the page if you switch to classic storyview
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-04 Thread BurningTreeC

Ciao @TiddlyTweeter,

I've put the auto-populate thing back on the page, now it generates images 
that open a modal

Now muuri is able to store the ordering of grids in lists, there are two 
simple demos on the page if you switch to classic storyview

working on refinements,
all the best,
Simon

Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2018 12:32:00 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao Simon,
>
> @TiddlyTweeter:
>
>> As was your previous demo of auto-populate muuri Tiddlers with images
>>
>
> @BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>> I didn't realize that that was a good thing, I can put that back on if 
>> there's interest. It's an easy hack but yes, more impressive with this 
>> storyview than the classic tiddlywiki view.
>
>
> I think its VERY useful to see a few examples of how to AUTO-POPULATE.
>
> For instance I have a *use case* I'm slowly working on to create *image 
> galleries*. 
>
> The muuri within a muuri tiddler could be a great way forward on that.  
> (1) you auto-populate a tiddler with thumbnails (all external small image 
> files; some variant sizes, some portrait, some landscape); (2) drag-n-drop 
> to get a pleasing layout; (3) when you click in a thumbnail a MODAL opens 
> to display the full image. I think the muuri approach could be brilliant 
> for supporting that in an easier way than was the case before.
>
> Seeing code that does the populating is really useful for users like me 
> who are not so technically minded but can copy and paste code and change a 
> few values to get it to do what I need.
>
> Just an example
> Best wishes
>  
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-04 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

Ciao Simon,

@TiddlyTweeter:

> As was your previous demo of auto-populate muuri Tiddlers with images
>

@BurningTreeC wrote:

> I didn't realize that that was a good thing, I can put that back on if 
> there's interest. It's an easy hack but yes, more impressive with this 
> storyview than the classic tiddlywiki view.

I think its VERY useful to see a few examples of how to AUTO-POPULATE.

For instance I have a *use case* I'm slowly working on to create *image 
galleries*. 

The muuri within a muuri tiddler could be a great way forward on that.  (1) 
you auto-populate a tiddler with thumbnails (all external small image 
files; some variant sizes, some portrait, some landscape); (2) drag-n-drop 
to get a pleasing layout; (3) when you click in a thumbnail a MODAL opens 
to display the full image. I think the muuri approach could be brilliant 
for supporting that in an easier way than was the case before.

Seeing code that does the populating is really useful for users like me who 
are not so technically minded but can copy and paste code and change a few 
values to get it to do what I need.

Just an example
Best wishes

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-04 Thread BurningTreeC

UPDATE: now there's a testing version online that works better. still I
don't know if it works stable in regard of zooming.

there's no packed plugin right now, just the preview version

please leave a comment if you test it and it doesn't make sense to you, and
if it does, please leave a comment, too ;)

there's a new button on the tiddlers that's meant to reset the applied
widths that get set when you pinch-zoom on tiddlers. This button could be a
simple dot in the top left corner for example. now I'd just focus on
function and if it's useful.

the toggle columns button resets applied widths by pinch-zoom. I think
that's more what one expects when toggling through columns.

I could make a "backup" of applied widths while toggling throug columns and
the before mentioned "reset button" could be two-state, so that he also can
reset a backed-up width.

I'm curious what you think about this whole functionality, it surely has to
be refined and debugged.

kind regards,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-03 Thread BurningTreeC

Hello community!

I've put an updated version online (v0.0.10)

it's focus is pinch-zoom on tiddlers to set different widths. If you like 
testing, please do so, I'd be thankful if you give me a short report if you 
find errors or strange behaviour

The tiddlers now should preserve their widths you set when zooming, also 
after dragging and after reloading the wiki (if you have a testing wiki 
with the plugin)

I don't know if I should make a small indicator ( a dot or so.. ) on 
tiddlers that have fixed widths that's clickable to remove the fixed width

cheers, BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-03 Thread BurningTreeC

Hi @TonyM,

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 23:43:55 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC,
>
> The open in new window is excellent for Desktop, especially in my three 
> screen office setting, And in two screen presentations be it standard 
> tiddlywiki or murri boards.
>

yes, it has something. do you have some ideas about this? editing tiddlers 
opens them in the new-window-sidebar, too. is that something desired, a 
toggle button in the sidebar maybe? 

>
> truth is its value on mobile is dodgy, Instead it would be nice if someone 
> (not necessarily yourself) could build  a generic solution on tiddlywiki 
> somewhat slimier to Open in new window where a tiddler could be opened in 
> top/bottom/left right slide out positions, perhaps even if tagged just as 
> we currently have.
>
>- $:/tags/TopLeftBar 
>
> 
>- $:/tags/TopRightBar 
>
> 
>- $:/tags/AboveStory 
>
> 
>- $:/tags/BelowStory 
>
> 
>
>
interesting, I'm not gonna do that but as you say, someone who's interested 
could do something like that
 

> Executed carefully the mouse would open it in desktop and swipe from off 
> screen would open the tagged tiddler on mobile.
>
> Rather than pack too many features in the one plugin this could complement 
> murri but also help mobile first tiddlywikis, as well as building quick 
> menus (which I have always felt lacking in tiddltywiki.
>
> *If anyone thinks they can do this and its a worthy project please contact 
> me and I can help you develop it, at least from a functional design 
> perspective.*
>
> I  murris case a Left had slide out menu, a righthand slide out SideBar 
> and a dropdown wikimenu would be fabulous.
>

I'm trying to adopt this for mobile 
view: http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/
It's great and very clean and the creator has put a lot of work into it, 
looks very stable.


> PS I think the choice of menus and interaction on mobiles should try and 
> follow widely known mobile design standards, I expect some in the community 
> would be familiar with these.
>
> Such a tool would complement your solution well.
>
> Food for thought
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, 3 January 2018 04:02:00 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> *about the sidebar in new window on mobile devices*
>>
>> it seems that android or the mobile browser in my case limits the 
>> processes in the background so that the sidebar in a new window doesn't 
>> directly trigger actions in the story river and vice versa. if i click 
>> "edit" in the sidebar window i have to switch to the story window and back 
>> to the sidebar to have the edit tiddler open. I'll find out if there's a 
>> way, if not then I'll go with the dropdown thing for the sidebar and a 
>> fixed full-height full-width solution for editing tiddlers.
>>
>> on desktop browsers this limit doesn't exist as far as I know and it 
>> works great. The switch to turn editing in the sidebar on/off should be 
>> right there in the sidebar I think.
>>
>> this is very useful for notetaking - it's a bit like onenote's feature to 
>> have "quick note" on the left/right while working on other programs/notes
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-02 Thread TonyM

BurningTreeC,

The open in new window is excellent for Desktop, especially in my three 
screen office setting, And in two screen presentations be it standard 
tiddlywiki or murri boards.

truth is its value on mobile is dodgy, Instead it would be nice if someone 
(not necessarily yourself) could build  a generic solution on tiddlywiki 
somewhat slimier to Open in new window where a tiddler could be opened in 
top/bottom/left right slide out positions, perhaps even if tagged just as 
we currently have.

   - $:/tags/TopLeftBar 

   - $:/tags/TopRightBar 

   - $:/tags/AboveStory 

   - $:/tags/BelowStory 

Executed carefully the mouse would open it in desktop and swipe from off 
screen would open the tagged tiddler on mobile.

Rather than pack too many features in the one plugin this could complement 
murri but also help mobile first tiddlywikis, as well as building quick 
menus (which I have always felt lacking in tiddltywiki.

*If anyone thinks they can do this and its a worthy project please contact 
me and I can help you develop it, at least from a functional design 
perspective.*

I  murris case a Left had slide out menu, a righthand slide out SideBar and 
a dropdown wikimenu would be fabulous.

PS I think the choice of menus and interaction on mobiles should try and 
follow widely known mobile design standards, I expect some in the community 
would be familiar with these.

Such a tool would complement your solution well.

Food for thought
Tony

On Wednesday, 3 January 2018 04:02:00 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> *about the sidebar in new window on mobile devices*
>
> it seems that android or the mobile browser in my case limits the 
> processes in the background so that the sidebar in a new window doesn't 
> directly trigger actions in the story river and vice versa. if i click 
> "edit" in the sidebar window i have to switch to the story window and back 
> to the sidebar to have the edit tiddler open. I'll find out if there's a 
> way, if not then I'll go with the dropdown thing for the sidebar and a 
> fixed full-height full-width solution for editing tiddlers.
>
> on desktop browsers this limit doesn't exist as far as I know and it works 
> great. The switch to turn editing in the sidebar on/off should be right 
> there in the sidebar I think.
>
> this is very useful for notetaking - it's a bit like onenote's feature to 
> have "quick note" on the left/right while working on other programs/notes
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin



Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 18:02:00 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> *about the sidebar in new window on mobile devices*
>
> it seems that android or the mobile browser in my case limits the 
> processes in the background so that the sidebar in a new window doesn't 
> directly trigger actions in the story river and vice versa. if i click 
> "edit" in the sidebar window i have to switch to the story window and back 
> to the sidebar to have the edit tiddler open. I'll find out if there's a 
> way, if not then I'll go with the dropdown thing for the sidebar and a 
> fullscreen solution for editing a tiddler.
>
> on desktop browsers this limit doesn't exist as far as I know and it works 
> great. The switch to turn editing in the sidebar on/off should be right 
> there in the sidebar I think.
>
> this is very useful for notetaking - it's a bit like onenote's feature to 
> have "quick note" on the left/right while working on other programs/notes
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

*about the sidebar in new window on mobile devices*

it seems that android or the mobile browser in my case limits the processes 
in the background so that the sidebar in a new window doesn't directly 
trigger actions in the story river and vice versa. if i click "edit" in the 
sidebar window i have to switch to the story window and back to the sidebar 
to have the edit tiddler open. I'll find out if there's a way, if not then 
I'll go with the dropdown thing for the sidebar.

on desktop browsers this limit doesn't exist as far as I know and it works 
great. The switch to turn editing in the sidebar on/off should be right 
there in the sidebar I think.

this is very useful for notetaking - it's a bit like onenote's feature to 
have "quick note" on the left/right while working on other programs/notes

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@TiddlyTweeter, thanks!

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 15:56:39 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> New year new updates
>>
>
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Muuri WITHIN Muuri is exactly right.
>
> As was your previous demo of auto-populate muuri Tiddlers with images
>

I didn't realize that that was a good thing, I can put that back on if 
there's interest. It's an easy hack but yes, more impressive with this 
storyview than the classic tiddlywiki view.
I have something like a "magic tiddly button" coming up that should be able 
to perform actions like that one but with selectables to choose from a 
catalogue of widgets and a set of actions.
There could also be a tiddler that holds contributions of community 
members, so that they get accessable for all in one place.
The "populate storyview with images" action could be one 

>  
>
>
> *This gadget is in a different league. Its brilliant.*
>
> Your biggest problem is likely going to be explaining it once you get out 
> of alpha :-).
>

I'm not thinking about that right now, but when it comes to that point I 
guess I'll make a nice demonstration wiki with a bit of easy documentation.
It's not that much as it seems - tricky, but not magic. I'm good at 
explaining so they say

>  
> Great appreciation
>

thank you very much 

> Josiah
>

all the best,
Simon 

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BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> New year new updates
>

http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/

Muuri WITHIN Muuri is exactly right.

As was your previous demo of auto-populate muuri Tiddlers with images
 


*This gadget is in a different league. Its brilliant.*

Your biggest problem is likely going to be explaining it once you get out 
of alpha :-).
 
Great appreciation
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin


>
>
>>
> the tiddler-info area is a popup - technically. so, a button on top in 
> mobile view that drops the sidebar down from above, height maybe 40% - 45% 
> relative to the screen-height so there's space below to see tiddlers. 
> I think there could be an option to choose between new window and 
> dropdown-style
>
GOTCHA! The option is already there 

>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 15:17:45 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:

 what do you think about mobile view?

- how could/should the interface be

 @TiddlyTweeter: 
>
>> IMO better you don't see any menus till you need them 
>>>
>>  
>
>> Have you seen the new sidebar in new window? there's a currently 
>> nasty-named tab where you can edit tiddlers that are present in the story 
>> directly in that window.
>>
>
> I looked at QUICKIES. Its a neat system for editing shorter posts ad hoc. 
> Definitely a plus in some use cases. Not so sure on the transparency of the 
> editor. If you not familiar with TW that might be a bit disorientating.
>

there's a button to change the transparency - you can set no transparency. 
it just has a nice effect when dragging and let's you keep an overview of 
what's below when you open the sidebar. But as standard setting, I also 
think no transparency is best. The button I'm talking about is not in the 
plugin but on the site under community additions (last tiddler in river I 
think)

>  
>
>> Would that be something for mobile view, too?
>>
>
> I think with the right design concept it could BE THE access route to the 
> editor INCLUDING new Tiddler authoring. Especially on mobiles!  
>

I love this sidebar in a window. I'm trying to figure out if we can switch 
back with a button. 

>
>
>>>- where to put the sidebar
>>>
>>> One thought. A drop down at TOP when you hover into a few pixel high 
>> minimal line at screen top?
>>
>  
>
>> Yes, another way to do it. how do you hover with your fingers? something 
>> like a slide-down thing?
>>
>
> YES.
>

yeah, swipe-recognition ... tried it once and gave up soon because other 
things were more important. at a later point I could see what I can do. 
Before this, I want to clean up the code and get other things done, so this 
is a when-it's done feature. 

>  
>
>> Right now on smartphones in portrait mode the sidebar should be shown at 
>> the top, like a dropdown. I'm thinking about making the sidebar a popup 
>> that closes if you click outside.
>>
>
> That could work too. The issue is visual semantics, I think. Pop-ups 
> usually relate to some content popped from. But no reason to slavishly 
> follow that. But maybe a full screen would do as well with an auto-close on 
> action? Just thoughts.
>

the tiddler-info area is a popup - technically. so, a button on top in 
mobile view that drops the sidebar down from above, height maybe 40% - 45% 
relative to the screen-height so there's space below to see tiddlers. 
I think there could be an option to choose between new window and 
dropdown-style

>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> best wishes,
Simon 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin


>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> what do you think about mobile view?
>>>
>>>- how could/should the interface be
>>>
>>> @TiddlyTweeter: 

> IMO better you don't see any menus till you need them 
>>
>  

> Have you seen the new sidebar in new window? there's a currently 
> nasty-named tab where you can edit tiddlers that are present in the story 
> directly in that window.
>

I looked at QUICKIES. Its a neat system for editing shorter posts ad hoc. 
Definitely a plus in some use cases. Not so sure on the transparency of the 
editor. If you not familiar with TW that might be a bit disorientating.
 

> Would that be something for mobile view, too?
>

I think with the right design concept it could BE THE access route to the 
editor INCLUDING new Tiddler authoring. Especially on mobiles!  


>>- where to put the sidebar
>>
>> One thought. A drop down at TOP when you hover into a few pixel high 
> minimal line at screen top?
>
 

> Yes, another way to do it. how do you hover with your fingers? something 
> like a slide-down thing?
>

YES.
 

> Right now on smartphones in portrait mode the sidebar should be shown at 
> the top, like a dropdown. I'm thinking about making the sidebar a popup 
> that closes if you click outside.
>

That could work too. The issue is visual semantics, I think. Pop-ups 
usually relate to some content popped from. But no reason to slavishly 
follow that. But maybe a full screen would do as well with an auto-close on 
action? Just thoughts. 

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

:) maybe it didn't work last time you tried because I currently disabled it 
for the toggle-columns-button overhaul

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 14:41:38 UTC+1 schrieb Ste Wilson:
>
> Don't know what you have done but the pinch zoom resizing thing now works 
> on my phone :)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@all,

be aware, at the moment in mobile portrait view tiddlers disappear from the 
storyriver when you edit them.
they show up in the sidebar and appear again in the storyriver when you 
leave editing
it's meant to test how having a second window with just the sidebar works

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-02 Thread Ste Wilson

Don't know what you have done but the pinch zoom resizing thing now works on my 
phone :)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

I made it a setting in the ControlPanel, things like this are no problem 
and easy to make configurable

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 14:20:55 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>
>> what do you think about mobile view?
>>
>>- how could/should the interface be
>>
>> This is a general comment about the use of VERTICAL ICONS in Tiddler. The 
> problem is space sometimes. The menu goes on ...
>
> To take a real use case. I write weird Tiddlers that get Tweeted like 
> this: "#Crusoe likes that Crusoe likes Crusoe. Crusoe is not so sure Crusoe 
> is so sure."  The problem is my brief style means the text truncates before 
> the menu finishes.
>
> I think, overall, that the horizontal menu could still work better. But, 
> of course, on narrowing, one may hit a limit too with too many icons. 
>
> This is more a design puzzle issue than asking you to change anything. *Its 
> just a comment.*
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> what do you think about mobile view?
>
>- how could/should the interface be
>
> This is a general comment about the use of VERTICAL ICONS in Tiddler. The 
problem is space sometimes. The menu goes on ...

To take a real use case. I write weird Tiddlers that get Tweeted like this: 
"#Crusoe likes that Crusoe likes Crusoe. Crusoe is not so sure Crusoe is so 
sure."  The problem is my brief style means the text truncates before the 
menu finishes.

I think, overall, that the horizontal menu could still work better. But, of 
course, on narrowing, one may hit a limit too with too many icons. 

This is more a design puzzle issue than asking you to change anything. *Its 
just a comment.*

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

oh, yes! I could easily make this happen, I've already thought about that 
and successfully tried recognizing multiple taps. Inside muuri (thanks to 
hammer.js) you can recognize doubleclicks, tripleclicks, quadrupleclicks, 
long press, swipes ... see: http://hammerjs.github.io/recognizer-tap/

that's also possible on mobile devices because that functionality comes 
with the plugin

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 14:00:00 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> what do you think about mobile view?
>> how could/should the interface be
>>
>
> I'm not sure if mobiles support it but DOUBLE-TAP to edit could be neat 
> way to improve screen estate. Daniello made a double-click to edit a 
> tiddler a long time ago. Its very useful when you want to reduce screen 
> icons as much as possible.
>
> FWIW Danielo's plugin is here: 
> https://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-2click2edit/
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

thanks Josiah,

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 13:47:34 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>
>> what do you think about mobile view?
>>
>>- how could/should the interface be
>>
>> IMO better you don't see any menus till you need them 
>
Have you seen the new sidebar in new window? there's a currently 
nasty-named tab where you can edit tiddlers that are present in the story 
directly in that window.

Would that be something for mobile view, too?

One could put a media query in the stylesheet and

.tc-story-river .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
display: none !important;
}

So if you edit tiddlers they hide in the story and only show up in the 
sidebar to edit

>
>>- where to put the sidebar
>>
>> One thought. A drop down at TOP when you hover into a few pixel high 
> minimal line at screen top?
>
Yes, another way to do it. how do you hover with your fingers? something 
like a slide-down thing?

Right now on smartphones in portrait mode the sidebar should be shown at 
the top, like a dropdown. I'm thinking about making the sidebar a popup 
that closes if you click outside. 

>
> My thinking is that mobile usage needs to avoid over complex menus and 
> concentrate on basic functions. Frankly I find the full sidebar (on desktop 
> seen ALONGSIDE the river) is not really optimal for most average size 
> smartphones. Much of it is overkill on a phone. The problem here is, I 
> think, not just about how to get it working sweetly, its also about WHAT is 
> shown.
>
I also think so

>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin


>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> what do you think about mobile view?
> how could/should the interface be
>

I'm not sure if mobiles support it but DOUBLE-TAP to edit could be neat way 
to improve screen estate. Daniello made a double-click to edit a tiddler a 
long time ago. Its very useful when you want to reduce screen icons as much 
as possible.

FWIW Danielo's plugin is here: https://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-2click2edit/

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> what do you think about mobile view?
>
>- how could/should the interface be
>
> IMO better you don't see any menus till you need them 

>
>- where to put the sidebar
>
> One thought. A drop down at TOP when you hover into a few pixel high 
minimal line at screen top? 

My thinking is that mobile usage needs to avoid over complex menus and 
concentrate on basic functions. Frankly I find the full sidebar (on desktop 
seen ALONGSIDE the river) is not really optimal for most average size 
smartphones. Much of it is overkill on a phone. The problem here is, I 
think, not just about how to get it working sweetly, its also about WHAT is 
shown.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

hi, @Ste Wilson

I think I'll make an option to switch to the right, that's good

For zooming I've seen you need some power under the hood, doesn't work well 
on my sony z3compact, too
But those new pricy phones in the electronics stores work better... in 
landscape mode.
In portrait mode i find it pretty useless.
Tablets and laptops with touch work pretty good, though
looks really good on an ipad pro for example
(yeah, was in a local store and tried the site on multiple devices ;D )

thanks for your feedback,
I'm gonna work on mobile css to make it better

best wishes,
Simon

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 12:34:26 UTC+1 schrieb Ste Wilson:
>
> I keep accessing this on my phone... 
> Scrolling has been ok as the tool bar area on the left can be reliably 
> used for that. An option to switch to the right would be nice. 
>
> The pinch and zoom/ moving things around functionality doesn't seem to 
> work very well on my phone. 
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-02 Thread Ste Wilson

I keep accessing this on my phone... 
Scrolling has been ok as the tool bar area on the left can be reliably used for 
that. An option to switch to the right would be nice. 

The pinch and zoom/ moving things around functionality doesn't seem to work 
very well on my phone. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-01 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

@everyone,

what do you think about mobile view?

   - how could/should the interface be
   - where to put the sidebar
   - how to handle dragging with less space available
   - how to handle scrolling
   - ...

kind regards,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-01 Thread BurningTreeC

@Dave Grifford,

thanks! that's true, it's the same like one is used with closing windows. I 
changed it on the site.

@TonyM,

that's a very cool discovery! I made an optional setting for that in the 
new settings tab for the control panel

all the best,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-01 Thread TonyM

BurningTreeC

I realised it is possible to simply create another tiddler (called 
sidebar?) with the following content;

<$transclude tiddler="$:/core/ui/SideBarLists" mode="inline"/>

Which provides a tiddler in the tile set to do anything you would otherwise 
do by opening the side bar.

I then realised if you send this or any other tiddler such as the table of 
contents to a new window you can chose which tiddlers to open (see 
tableofcontents) or close (see open tab)

You can do this in fullscreen mode + a navigation window, to great effect.

With a little work the side bar tiddler opened in another window could show 
the page controls and wiki title, and the Left hand side menus could be 
closed to maximise space for tiles.

Wow, this is cool.

Regards
Tony 

On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 07:47:27 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> New year new updates,
>
> Hi everyone!
>
>
>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>quick fix
>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>   - this is something that's going to be addressed on a later point - 
>   have to figure out which way to go
>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in plugin ... 
>theres a tiddler now that holds various additions and contributions to get 
>if one likes
>
>
> There's something new on the page, the muuri widget is getting modified to 
> accept user parameters
> You can make your own grids with draggable elements
> You will be able to store them as lists in fields so that reordering saves 
> their position
>
> Another thing I'm interested in is this:
> https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
> https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/zPVBLq
>
> one could drag elements from one grid to the other. the second link shows 
> how elements get copied to the second grid ...
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how to trigger droppable widgets, if 
> someone knows something about that and wouldn't mind to share, I'd offer a 
> beer!
>
> best wishes to all and happy new year,
> BurningTreeC
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but since you have the tiddler 
toolbar displayed vertically and off to the right side of the tiddlers, I 
would suggest that the close tiddler button be at the top, above the other 
three tiddler toolbar buttons, for two reasons:

1. Of the four main tiddler toolbar buttons, it is the one with the action 
that will be executed most frequently. So it should be given the location 
that is most natural and doesn't force the user to visually scan to find 
it. The eye most naturally goes to the top right and from there scans 
downward.

2. Having it at the top also means it will be pretty much exactly where it 
is in the normal tiddler layout. So that is an added benefit. The most used 
button is in its place, and only the lesser used functions are out of their 
normal places.

I don't have any opinions about the order of the other buttons.

Dave

On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-01 Thread BurningTreeC

New year new updates,

Hi everyone!

- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ...
quick fix
- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
- this is something that's going to be addressed on a later point -
have to figure out which way to go
- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in plugin ...
theres a tiddler now that holds various additions and contributions to get
if one likes

There's something new on the page, the muuri widget is getting modified to
accept user parameters
You can make your own grids with draggable elements
You will be able to store them as lists in fields so that reordering saves
their position

Another thing I'm interested in is this:
https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/zPVBLq

one could drag elements from one grid to the other. the second link shows
how elements get copied to the second grid ...

I'm still trying to figure out how to trigger droppable widgets, if someone
knows something about that and wouldn't mind to share, I'd offer a beer!

best wishes to all and happy new year,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-31 Thread BurningTreeC

Thanks, @TonyM!

I wish all of you a good new year 2018, here it's 9 hours away.
Read you next year!

Best wishes,
Simon

Am Sonntag, 31. Dezember 2017 13:29:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> No offence,
>
> All I hope to do is share ideas and vision, I understand how this is a 
> community and you will deliver what you want when you can.
>
> Good work so far, we recognise your effort, and support your direction.
>
> I am available for testing, support and in time a lot more.
>
> Great stuff
> Tony
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-31 Thread TonyM

No offence,

All I hope to do is share ideas and vision, I understand how this is a 
community and you will deliver what you want when you can.

Good work so far, we recognise your effort, and support your direction.

I am available for testing, support and in time a lot more.

Great stuff
Tony

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-31 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

I really like this. i'm gonna comment bit by bit as I play with it. I 
really appreciate that you doing a step at a time and need feedback at each 
stage. I think that is a great approach.

*First comment:* the use of Toggle buttons is good. And the multi-state 
toggle button that cycles through column numbers is really excellent. 

Best wishes
Josiah

BurningTreeC wrote:

>
>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-31 Thread BurningTreeC

@TonyM,

no offense, but a reasoning

you gotta see the actual state and what's doable at the moment. your 
suggestions are pretty good but are jumping some steps ahead.
I've already given some thoughts to zooming tiddlers - the option to open 
in a new page can be something that you can implement easily with a bit of 
your own tinkering.

At the moment this has no priority but I may come back to it later on.
If you can provide some informations what's not working on your browser, 
that'd be a useful feedback

as said in a post before, there are some things I'm addressing now, they 
have priority and the things built on top of that then will only profit and 
make it easier to implement your own stuff

On a later point, I'm gonna come back to your ideas,

kind regards,
Simon

Am Sonntag, 31. Dezember 2017 00:46:15 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC
>
> Sorry for the delayed response. Yes a slide bar like you showed, at 
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com 
> ?
>  
> (not working for me in Chrome, or firefox) effectivly just a drag-able 
> version 
> of your toggle columns, but where is it best placed?, I wonder if a 
> vertical one on the left hand side icons would work?.
>
> My idea was for tiddlywiki to behave as normal until the columns are 
> changed from 1 into using the muuri layout. However at present the side 
> bar is not behaving as in a standard tiddlywiki (widths and overlay 
> etc...), although the idea of allowing a "flyover" sidebar is a good idea 
> it would be nice to toggle it.
>
> Don't take my suggestions too seriously as I have only being lurking, 
> watching the progress of your plugin. It is however my feeling that it 
> would not be unreasonable to add this kind of functionality into the core 
> UI, after all tiddlywiki is all about tiddlers and using multi-column 
> responsive tiles, Kanban views, alternative story views and tabs are all 
> just different ways of showing off tiddlers and extend tiddlywiki's 
> applications from presentations, to whiteboards, project tools and 
> dashboards.
>
> To me murri seems suited to providing a multiple tiddler dashboard, or if 
> we had a button or click to open a tiddler into full screen from all those 
> in a tilled view it would be a great way to jump between slides in a 
> working presentation.
>
> For the desktop I wonder if we could open the Murri view in a new window 
> with the selected tiddler opening in the original story view?
>
> From me, Just some not well informed speculation,
>
> But thanks for your work, it looks great.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 23:55:44 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> @TonyM,
>>
>> did you mean just changing the width or scaling the whole thing?
>>
>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 11:17:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>>>
>>> BurningTreeC,
>>>
>>> Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
>>> Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?
>>>
>>> Just a thought
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:

 I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?

 Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Updates:
>
>
>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of 
>material icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if 
> nothing 
>breaks .. fingers crossed)
>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>
> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom 
> set different widths for all possible columns
> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
> change
>
> After that, I'll address things like
>
>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes 
>... quick fix
>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>- ?
>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in 
>plugin? shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>
> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>
> greets from cold Austria,
> BurningTreeC
>


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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-30 Thread TonyM

BurningTreeC

Sorry for the delayed response. Yes a slide bar like you showed, at 
http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com 
?

(not working for me in Chrome, or firefox) effectivly just a drag-able version 
of your toggle columns, but where is it best placed?, I wonder if a 
vertical one on the left hand side icons would work?.

My idea was for tiddlywiki to behave as normal until the columns are 
changed from 1 into using the muuri layout. However at present the side bar 
is not behaving as in a standard tiddlywiki (widths and overlay etc...), 
although the idea of allowing a "flyover" sidebar is a good idea it would 
be nice to toggle it.

Don't take my suggestions too seriously as I have only being lurking, 
watching the progress of your plugin. It is however my feeling that it 
would not be unreasonable to add this kind of functionality into the core 
UI, after all tiddlywiki is all about tiddlers and using multi-column 
responsive tiles, Kanban views, alternative story views and tabs are all 
just different ways of showing off tiddlers and extend tiddlywiki's 
applications from presentations, to whiteboards, project tools and 
dashboards.

To me murri seems suited to providing a multiple tiddler dashboard, or if 
we had a button or click to open a tiddler into full screen from all those 
in a tilled view it would be a great way to jump between slides in a 
working presentation.

For the desktop I wonder if we could open the Murri view in a new window 
with the selected tiddler opening in the original story view?

>From me, Just some not well informed speculation,

But thanks for your work, it looks great.

Tony

On Saturday, 30 December 2017 23:55:44 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @TonyM,
>
> did you mean just changing the width or scaling the whole thing?
>
> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 11:17:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>>
>> BurningTreeC,
>>
>> Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
>> Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?
>>
>> Just a thought
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?
>>>
>>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:

 Updates:

- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks 
 .. 
fingers crossed)
- eval plugin not needed anymore

 Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom 
 set different widths for all possible columns
 The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
 macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
 change

 After that, I'll address things like

- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes 
... quick fix
- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
- ?
- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in 
plugin? shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?

 If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)

 greets from cold Austria,
 BurningTreeC

>>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@TonyM,

did you mean just changing the width or scaling the whole thing?

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 11:17:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC,
>
> Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
> Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?
>
> Just a thought
>
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?
>>
>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Updates:
>>>
>>>
>>>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>>>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
>>>icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks 
>>> .. 
>>>fingers crossed)
>>>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>>>
>>> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom 
>>> set different widths for all possible columns
>>> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
>>> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
>>> change
>>>
>>> After that, I'll address things like
>>>
>>>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>>>quick fix
>>>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>>>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>>>- ?
>>>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in 
>>>plugin? shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>>>
>>> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>>>
>>> greets from cold Austria,
>>> BurningTreeC
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@TonyM,

see the sidebar on the plugin page,

works nicely

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 11:17:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC,
>
> Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
> Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?
>
> Just a thought
>
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?
>>
>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Updates:
>>>
>>>
>>>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>>>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
>>>icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks 
>>> .. 
>>>fingers crossed)
>>>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>>>
>>> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom 
>>> set different widths for all possible columns
>>> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
>>> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
>>> change
>>>
>>> After that, I'll address things like
>>>
>>>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>>>quick fix
>>>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>>>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>>>- ?
>>>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in 
>>>plugin? shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>>>
>>> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>>>
>>> greets from cold Austria,
>>> BurningTreeC
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

!! cool thought!

:)

I guess that would work, do you want to hack it?

Simon

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 11:17:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC,
>
> Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
> Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?
>
> Just a thought
>
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?
>>
>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Updates:
>>>
>>>
>>>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>>>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
>>>icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks 
>>> .. 
>>>fingers crossed)
>>>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>>>
>>> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom 
>>> set different widths for all possible columns
>>> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
>>> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
>>> change
>>>
>>> After that, I'll address things like
>>>
>>>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>>>quick fix
>>>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>>>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>>>- ?
>>>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in 
>>>plugin? shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>>>
>>> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>>>
>>> greets from cold Austria,
>>> BurningTreeC
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-30 Thread TonyM

BurningTreeC,

Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?

Just a thought

Tony

On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?
>
> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>
>> Updates:
>>
>>
>>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
>>icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks .. 
>>fingers crossed)
>>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>>
>> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom set 
>> different widths for all possible columns
>> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
>> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
>> change
>>
>> After that, I'll address things like
>>
>>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>>quick fix
>>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>>- ?
>>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in plugin? 
>>shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>>
>> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>>
>> greets from cold Austria,
>> BurningTreeC
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Updates:
>
>
>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
>icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks .. 
>fingers crossed)
>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>
> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom set 
> different widths for all possible columns
> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
> change
>
> After that, I'll address things like
>
>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>quick fix
>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>- ?
>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in plugin? 
>shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>
> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>
> greets from cold Austria,
> BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Updates:


   - the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
   - 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
   icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks .. 
   fingers crossed)
   - eval plugin not needed anymore

Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom set 
different widths for all possible columns
The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
change

After that, I'll address things like

   - StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
   quick fix
   - stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
   - reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
   - ?

If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)

greets from cold Austria,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

replace the button with this:

\define columnicons()
<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]!regexp[^2$]!regexp[^1$]]">
<>

<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]regexp[^2$]]">
<>

<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]regexp[^1$]]">
<>

\end
<$set name="columns" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
<$set name="nextValue" filter="[] 
+[next[$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/Buttons/toggle-columns]]">
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-toolbar-icon" tooltip="toggle columns">
<$list filter="[!regexp[^6$]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value=<>/>
<$list filter="[regexp[^6$]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value="1"/>
@@font-size:0.7rem;float:right;<>@@

*and put in the list field: 1 2 3 4 5 6*

then you'll have 6 columns to cycle through and 1 works as expected

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 21:18:05 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> I really like the interface you have set up. The only thing I have found 
> that doesn't work the way I expect is changing the number of columns to 1 
> doesn't do anything. Changing to any other number works nicely.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

yes, that's something to decide

pinch zoom on tiddlers is meant to change their widths. that's done by 
applying a "span" class (span-2 span-3 span-4 span-6 span-9 span-12)
at the moment, this works only when set to 1

it's a missing implementation in the columns macro. it should generate also 
the widths for each span-class ... the classes are applied in either 
column-view

I just let column "1" not be influenced by this macro to still be able to 
pinch-zoom, but it should change so that then tiddlers fill the whole width

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 21:18:05 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> I really like the interface you have set up. The only thing I have found 
> that doesn't work the way I expect is changing the number of columns to 1 
> doesn't do anything. Changing to any other number works nicely.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-29 Thread Jed Carty

I really like the interface you have set up. The only thing I have found 
that doesn't work the way I expect is changing the number of columns to 1 
doesn't do anything. Changing to any other number works nicely.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

I've updated http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com

added licenses and removed eval dependencies

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

... and the column button



\define columnicons()
<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]!regexp[2]]">
<>

<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]regexp[2]]">
<>

\end
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!column-count" type="nomatch" text="">
<$set name="columns" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
<$set name="nextValue" filter="[] +[next]">
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-toolbar-icon" tooltip="toggle columns">
<$list filter="[!regexp[^4$]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value=<>/>
<$list filter="[regexp[^4$]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value=""/>
@@font-size:0.7rem;float:right;<>@@
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!column-count" type="match" text="">
<$set name="columns" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-toolbar-icon" tooltip="toggle columns">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value="2"/>@@font-size:0.7rem;float:right;<>@@



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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

change the macro to this, should work. 

\define toggle-muuri-columns()
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!column-count" type="nomatch" text="">
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!align-horizontal" type="nomatch" 
text="yes">
<$set name="columnCount" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
.tc-tiddler-frame, .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
width: calc((100% / <>) - 16px) !important;
min-width: calc((100% / <>) - 16px) !important;
}
@media (min-width: 500px) {
.tc-tiddler-frame, .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
width: calc((100% / <>) - 16px) !important;
min-width: calc((100% / <>) - 16px) !important;
}
}



<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!column-count" type="nomatch" text="">
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!align-horizontal" type="match" text="yes">
<$set name="columnCount" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
<$set name="computedWidth" filter="[eval[100 / <>]]">
.tc-tiddler-frame, .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
width: calc((100vw - 84px) / <> - 16px) !important;
min-width: calc((100vw - 84px) / <> - 16px) !important;
}
@media (min-width: 500px) {
.tc-tiddler-frame, .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
width: calc((100vw - 84px) / <> - 16px) !important;
min-width: calc((100vw - 84px) / <> - 16px) !important;
}
}




\end

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 12:44:22 UTC+1 schrieb Evgeniy Degtyar:
>
> When I installed eval and math.js it started to work very slow. And it was 
> not so smooth. It's freezing a little bit every time when you click any 
> link. I'll try it to understand why this is happening.Or will change macro. 
>
>
> Hello @Evgeniy Degtyar,
>>
>> you need the eval plugin by @tobibeer to have it work,
>> I forgot to mention that, thanks for pointing this out!
>>
>> get it here: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#eval
>>
>> and get also the math.js library on that site, it's needed to have the 
>> eval plugin work
>>
>> though, it's possible to have it work also without that plugin, changing 
>> some lines...
>>
>> I think that in the future the eval plugin will no more be a dependency. 
>> Right now, get it to have the columns working, or ... you can hack around 
>> in $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/macros and change the "toggle-muuri-columns" 
>> macro to your needs.
>>
>> Also, if you're experiencing that columns are not side-by-side (tiddlers 
>> may  be a little bit too wide), change a value in that line: <$set 
>> name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / <> + 16 / 
>> <>]]"> *to *<$set name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / 
>> <> + *18 */ <>]]"> or something higher ...
>>
>> This calculation is not thought-out well, just a fast tinkering... if 
>> anyone finds a good solution for this calculation (the different 
>> tiddler-widths for 2, 3 and 4 columns) I'd appreciate :) 
>>
>>
>> Math makes me head-aches ;)
>>
>> best wishes,
>> Simon
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

interesting, works smoothless here on chrome, firefox and beaker

I've experienced that generally tw runs faster on my linuxes than my 
windowses

If this has something to do with the eval plugin itself ... I doubt a little

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 12:44:22 UTC+1 schrieb Evgeniy Degtyar:
>
> When I installed eval and math.js it started to work very slow. And it was 
> not so smooth. It's freezing a little bit every time when you click any 
> link. I'll try it to understand why this is happening.Or will change macro. 
>
>
> Hello @Evgeniy Degtyar,
>>
>> you need the eval plugin by @tobibeer to have it work,
>> I forgot to mention that, thanks for pointing this out!
>>
>> get it here: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#eval
>>
>> and get also the math.js library on that site, it's needed to have the 
>> eval plugin work
>>
>> though, it's possible to have it work also without that plugin, changing 
>> some lines...
>>
>> I think that in the future the eval plugin will no more be a dependency. 
>> Right now, get it to have the columns working, or ... you can hack around 
>> in $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/macros and change the "toggle-muuri-columns" 
>> macro to your needs.
>>
>> Also, if you're experiencing that columns are not side-by-side (tiddlers 
>> may  be a little bit too wide), change a value in that line: <$set 
>> name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / <> + 16 / 
>> <>]]"> *to *<$set name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / 
>> <> + *18 */ <>]]"> or something higher ...
>>
>> This calculation is not thought-out well, just a fast tinkering... if 
>> anyone finds a good solution for this calculation (the different 
>> tiddler-widths for 2, 3 and 4 columns) I'd appreciate :) 
>>
>>
>> Math makes me head-aches ;)
>>
>> best wishes,
>> Simon
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-29 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar

When I installed eval and math.js it started to work very slow. And it was 
not so smooth. It's freezing a little bit every time when you click any 
link. I'll try it to understand why this is happening.

пятница, 29 декабря 2017 г., 13:44:59 UTC+3 пользователь BurningTreeC 
написал:
>
> TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch (TWTiddlyMuuriTouch/TiddlyMuuriTouchWiki ... you 
> get it) on BeakerBrowser
>
> *CHANGED! NEW: *
> dat://f65d17930d0325cc3ecc217fb8b35823d43c014ebcfb76a6d1f0c7397a1b05e3/tiddly-touch.html
>
> I'd like to experiment with this on beaker browser. You may be able to get 
> the time right when it's on and I'm not at the end of the world like I am 
> right now, with at-the-and-of-the-world internet speed.
> Gonna change place soon to a place with more reliable speed.
>
> BeakerBrowser doesn't like the css transparency and full-screen doesn't 
> work on my linux machine. I haven't found other issues in comparison to 
> chromium/chrome - oh, well ... pinch-to-zoom (page-zoom) doesn't work 
> there, but who needs that... zooming tiddlers works
>
> What I'd like to see is (if there's interest in it) if this can be put 
> forward together
>
> cheers,
> BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch (TWTiddlyMuuriTouch/TiddlyMuuriTouchWiki ... you get 
it) on BeakerBrowser

dat://02a707bf2147e9cee5665ca253e1f961ec491ece06657d3e4a1143520f594383

I'd like to experiment with this on beaker browser. You may be able to get 
the time right when it's on and I'm not at the end of the world like I am 
right now, with at-the-and-of-the-world internet speed.
Gonna change place soon to a place with more reliable speed.

What I'd like to see is (if there's interest in it) if this can be put 
forward together


cheers,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@all,

someone willing to make/get/change/fix buttons (design, css, fit) that are 
used here?

also, which buttons should be kept, which aren't that useful - additions, 
changes, ideas?

saluti a tutti,
Simon

Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@Jed Carty,

thanks! I there I tried to have the css in a macro and from the Stylesheet 
just call the macros. To have a cleaner Stylesheet that's easier to read 
and to change.

To have a fast working demo I used the eval plugin, but a little bit of 
tinkering will make it work with the available tw filters I guess

I don't know if I want everything in the Stylesheet, gets very complicated 
for me to keep everything clean and overviewable (if that's a word)
so that's an attempt for having a slightly different logic.

Also, I can generate repeating css stuff with simple lists through such a 
macro, had some difficulties doing this directly in the stylesheet

maybe there's no reason for that?

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 10:16:18 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> If you don't need everything in the eval plugin you may be able to just 
> use the css calc functions. 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/calc
>
> If you don't have a tiddlers type set to text/css than you can do 
> transclusions in the css styles and it works as expected.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-29 Thread Jed Carty

If you don't need everything in the eval plugin you may be able to just use 
the css calc 
functions. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/calc

If you don't have a tiddlers type set to text/css than you can do 
transclusions in the css styles and it works as expected.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Hello @Evgeniy Degtyar,

you need the eval plugin by @tobibeer to have it work,
I forgot to mention that, thanks for pointing this out!

get it here: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#eval

and get also the math.js library on that site, it's needed to have the eval 
plugin work

though, it's possible to have it work also without that plugin, changing 
some lines...

I think that in the future the eval plugin will no more be a dependency. 
Right now, get it to have the columns working, or ... you can hack around 
in $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/macros and change the "toggle-muuri-columns" 
macro to your needs.

Also, if you're experiencing that columns are not side-by-side (tiddlers 
may  be a little bit too wide), change a value in that line: <$set 
name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / <> + 16 / 
<>]]"> *to *<$set name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / 
<> + *18 */ <>]]"> or something higher ...

This calculation is not thought-out well, just a fast tinkering... if 
anyone finds a good solution for this calculation (the different 
tiddler-widths for 2, 3 and 4 columns) I'd appreciate :) 


Math makes me head-aches ;)

best wishes,
Simon

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 08:57:33 UTC+1 schrieb Evgeniy Degtyar:
>
> It looks like "toggle colums" button doesn't work.
> I tried to install it on my and empty wiki but it just doesn't work.
>
>
>
>
> четверг, 28 декабря 2017 г., 23:55:16 UTC+3 пользователь BurningTreeC 
> написал:
>>
>> *An *alpha state *plugin *is now available on 
>> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>> It's meant for you if you like tinkering and testing
>>
>> If you get it, if you find a solution for something or some errors, I'd 
>> ask you to give a short feedback, that'd be great!
>>
>>
>> p.s. there's an error when dragging links with dragging switched on - 
>> switch it off to do that
>>
>> I'm curious about your feedback,
>>
>> best wishes,
>> Simon
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

*An *alpha state *plugin *is now available on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com

It's meant for you if you like tinkering and testing

If you get it, if you find a solution for something or some errors, I'd ask 
you to give a short feedback, that'd be great!


p.s. there's an error when dragging links with dragging switched on - 
switch it off to do that

I'm curious about your feedback,

best wishes,
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

oh, I see

that's because they should be two columns - three columns - 4 columns but 
they are too wide, so they don't show up side-by-side

there's only a bit of css tinkering that's missing. it's done in the 
"toggle muuri columns macro" tiddler. there's some calculation and I knew, 
I didn't get it totally right.
maybe you come up with something that works for you

kind regards

Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 16:42:42 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Here are my screenshots.
> [image: Inline image 1][image: Inline image 4][image: Inline image 3][image: 
> Inline image 2]
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
> *Resonate Global Mission*
> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
> resonateglobalmission.org
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:42 AM, BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> @David Grifford, don't they? :'D ... they should if I understand what you 
>> mean
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 15:37:57 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>>>
>>> Cool! I am curious why the two and three column options don't expand to 
>>> fill the screen width as scaffolding usually does. But definitely a nice 
>>> feature. Thanks!
>>>
>>> David Gifford
>>> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>>>
>>> *Resonate Global Mission*
>>> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
>>> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
>>> resonateglobalmission.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:34 AM, BurningTreeC  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @David Grifford, @TiddlyTweeter,

 now there's a button to change columns, works very well, thanks for 
 your help!


 I'd like to have one last feature, triggering the droppable widget when 
 dropping a tiddler onto it.
 I have a JSON string that contains the tiddler title when Tiddlers are 
 dragged around

 I believe there's not that much missing, but I'd need some Info what's 
 needed to trigger
 If there's someone who can provide me some short info, that would be 
 great and much appreciated!

 kind regards,
 BurningTreeC
 Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
> and pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
> add, comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on 
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / 
> muuri-storyview)  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@David Grifford, don't they? :'D ... they should if I understand what you 
mean

Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 15:37:57 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Cool! I am curious why the two and three column options don't expand to 
> fill the screen width as scaffolding usually does. But definitely a nice 
> feature. Thanks!
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
> *Resonate Global Mission*
> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
> resonateglobalmission.org
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:34 AM, BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> @David Grifford, @TiddlyTweeter,
>>
>> now there's a button to change columns, works very well, thanks for your 
>> help!
>>
>>
>> I'd like to have one last feature, triggering the droppable widget when 
>> dropping a tiddler onto it.
>> I have a JSON string that contains the tiddler title when Tiddlers are 
>> dragged around
>>
>> I believe there's not that much missing, but I'd need some Info what's 
>> needed to trigger
>> If there's someone who can provide me some short info, that would be 
>> great and much appreciated!
>>
>> kind regards,
>> BurningTreeC
>> Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>>> storyview
>>>
>>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>>
>>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
>>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the code repository is on github: 
>>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a *work in progress! * 
>>>
>>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
>>> add, comment!*
>>>
>>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>> what's missing?
>>>
>>>
>>>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>>> span-3 
>>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>>>needed, use tw css
>>>- a packed plugin
>>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>>>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>>>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
>>> moving 
>>>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>>>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>>>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / 
>>> muuri-storyview)  
>>>fixed
>>>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>>>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>>>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>>>   - question: how is that done?
>>>- ... more to come
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers, BurningTreeC
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-28 Thread David Gifford

Cool! I am curious why the two and three column options don't expand to
fill the screen width as scaffolding usually does. But definitely a nice
feature. Thanks!

David Gifford
Mexico team leader, Mexico City

*Resonate Global Mission*
*Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
resonateglobalmission.org


On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:34 AM, BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> @David Grifford, @TiddlyTweeter,
>
> now there's a button to change columns, works very well, thanks for your
> help!
>
>
> I'd like to have one last feature, triggering the droppable widget when
> dropping a tiddler onto it.
> I have a JSON string that contains the tiddler title when Tiddlers are
> dragged around
>
> I believe there's not that much missing, but I'd need some Info what's
> needed to trigger
> If there's someone who can provide me some short info, that would be great
> and much appreciated!
>
> kind regards,
> BurningTreeC
> Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled
>> storyview
>>
>> it's based on the muuri widget by https://ustuehler.github.io
>> /tw5-material/ which is based on https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and
>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions
>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>
>>
>>
>> the code repository is on github: https://github.com/Bur
>> ningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>
>>
>> It's a *work in progress! *
>>
>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change,
>> add, comment!*
>>
>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>>
>> what's missing?
>>
>>
>>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by
>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>> span-3
>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not
>>needed, use tw css
>>- a packed plugin
>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>>   - a different approach would be a second container on the
>>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
>> moving
>>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move
>>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview)
>>fixed
>>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>>   - question: how is that done?
>>- ... more to come
>>
>>
>> cheers, BurningTreeC
>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@David Grifford, @TiddlyTweeter,

now there's a button to change columns, works very well, thanks for your 
help!


I'd like to have one last feature, triggering the droppable widget when 
dropping a tiddler onto it.
I have a JSON string that contains the tiddler title when Tiddlers are 
dragged around

I believe there's not that much missing, but I'd need some Info what's 
needed to trigger
If there's someone who can provide me some short info, that would be great 
and much appreciated!

kind regards,
BurningTreeC
Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-27 Thread David Gifford

.tc-tiddler-frame { padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;} is another step towards
making a borderless image gallery. (Makes text tiddlers look terrible, of
course) There is still the top and bottom edges that have white space.


David Gifford
Mexico team leader, Mexico City

*Resonate Global Mission*
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A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
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On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 4:05 PM, BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> Hi David, thanks a lot! Every comment helps
>
> 2. I could see using it as a photo gallery, but I would probaby try to
>> find a way to reduce the side and bottom margins, and even hide the tiddler
>> title area, so that the tiddlers are pure photos with an edit menu on hover.
>>
> this can easily be done with a stylesheet:
>
> .tc-tiddler-frame .tc-title, .tc-tiddler-frame .tc-subtitle,
> .tc-tiddler-frame .tc-tiddler-title-icon {
>  display: none;
> }
>
> ...hides title, subtitle and tiddler-title icon (if there is one)
>
> 4. I am not sure I understand what exactly is happening when I click the
>> button in the 'create a bunch of image tiddlers' or how it might be used
>
> thats just for demonstrating purposes in this demo site. they are all
> tiddlers where title, subtitle, tags and control buttons are hidden similar
> to the example to hide title, subtitle and icon.
> the button just creates new tiddlers with a filter that filters all system
> images, applies a tag "sampletag" to each of them and opens them.
>
> in a stylesheet there is:
>
> .tc-tagged-sampletag .tc-tiddler-frame .tc-title, .tc-tagged-sampletag
> .tc-tiddler-frame .tc-subtitle, .tc-tagged-sampletag .tc-tiddler-frame
> .tc-tiddler-title-icon ... ... ... and so on {
>  display: none;
> }
> every tiddler with the tag "sampletag" then shows no title, subtitle, tag
> ... they are just visually hidden. ".tc-tagged-" means: each tiddler with
> the tag that comes after ".tc-tagged-" should have this style.
>
> This is just to have something to play with, to drag around, to be
> inspired. And an idea for a usecase, like an image gallery.
>
> "this is so cool it needs to be showcased"
>
> this is actually a plugin called "TiddlyWikiFormula" that's being
> developed these days and weeks and these are some examples he provides on
> the plugin page http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
> I think it's a great piece of work and it offers so many possibilities I'm
> getting a head-ache. It's not related with my little project.
>
> For example, I have no idea what I did to create this mess, which blocks
>> my access to a good portion of the sidebar and looks chaotic
>
> This is a mess that's possible at the moment ... dragging worked better
> before, until I began working on something that's not finished. I don't
> like that, too and I'll fix it soon.
>
> Thanks for the idea with the Button for more/less columns! That's a
> no-brainer and an instant plus. I'm gonna make one.
>
> thanks for your reply and help!
>
> best wishes,
> Simon
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 19:29:10 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>>
>> Hi BurningTreeC
>>
>> 1. I could see using this myself as a format for sharing quotes and
>> insights on a topic in a visually pleasing way.
>> 2. I could see using it as a photo gallery, but I would probaby try to
>> find a way to reduce the side and bottom margins, and even hide the tiddler
>> title area, so that the tiddlers are pure photos with an edit menu on hover.
>> 3. I could see the horizontal menu being great for presentations or
>> tutorials, anything that is step-by-step or progressive in some way.
>> 4. I am not sure I understand what exactly is happening when I click the
>> button in the 'create a bunch of image tiddlers' or how it might be used.
>> Are those in fact tiddlers of the images? Yet they have no titlebar or
>> editing. And yet they can be dragged. Can you describe what is actually
>> happening? And use case - would it be for opening a gallery of images with
>> a given tag?
>> 5. I don't know that I would use them myself, but the "this is so cool it
>> needs to be showcased" effects are really neat.
>> 6. I think I would probably also want a 'safe' version that is just
>> scaffolding *without* the ability to drag or resize, for publishing
>> materials for others. It can get disorienting for end users when things
>> slide around and you wonder if you lost something. For example, I have no
>> idea what I did to create this mess, which blocks my access to a good
>> portion of the sidebar and looks chaotic.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>> 7. Maybe a button or dropdown to toggle the number of columns would be
>> nice, it that is a workable possibility?
>>
>> Anyway, this opens up some interesting possibilities. Thanks a bunch for
>> all your work on this.
>>
>> David Gifford
>> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>>
>> *Resonate Global Mission*
>> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
>> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
>> resonateglobalmission.org

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

yes, that's easily doable in css with a stylesheet, no problem

6. I think I would probably also want a 'safe' version that is just 
> scaffolding *without* the ability to drag or resize, for publishing 
> materials for others

First, the MESS now is gone, I fixed it :)
#2: now if you drag Tiddlers around, the StoryList updates. That may help a 
little bit not to get lost
#3: there already is a button to disable dragging, every Tiddler has one in 
the top right corner and there is one for the pagecontrols, just check him 
in the control panel
#4: you can also disable dragging by changing "drag-enabled" in the 
"$:/config/muuri" tiddler to "no" - then you switch to tiddly view and back 
- and dragging is disabled. With the buttons it's easier, though
#5: the "fill-gaps" button toggles between two ways, muuri lays the 
Tiddlers on the screen. with fill-gaps enabled, tiddlers move more, because 
muuri tries to fill gaps and the sort-order changes more often because of 
that. with fill-gaps disabled there's less movement and less changes.

all the best,
Simon 

Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 19:30:14 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Sorry, I meant reduce the side margins and bottom margins of the 
> *tiddlers*. Should have made that clearer.
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
> *Resonate Global Mission*
> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
> resonateglobalmission.org
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 1:28 PM, David Gifford  > wrote:
>
>> Hi BurningTreeC
>>
>> 1. I could see using this myself as a format for sharing quotes and 
>> insights on a topic in a visually pleasing way.
>> 2. I could see using it as a photo gallery, but I would probaby try to 
>> find a way to reduce the side and bottom margins, and even hide the tiddler 
>> title area, so that the tiddlers are pure photos with an edit menu on hover.
>> 3. I could see the horizontal menu being great for presentations or 
>> tutorials, anything that is step-by-step or progressive in some way.
>> 4. I am not sure I understand what exactly is happening when I click the 
>> button in the 'create a bunch of image tiddlers' or how it might be used. 
>> Are those in fact tiddlers of the images? Yet they have no titlebar or 
>> editing. And yet they can be dragged. Can you describe what is actually 
>> happening? And use case - would it be for opening a gallery of images with 
>> a given tag?
>> 5. I don't know that I would use them myself, but the "this is so cool it 
>> needs to be showcased" effects are really neat.
>> 6. I think I would probably also want a 'safe' version that is just 
>> scaffolding *without* the ability to drag or resize, for publishing 
>> materials for others. It can get disorienting for end users when things 
>> slide around and you wonder if you lost something. For example, I have no 
>> idea what I did to create this mess, which blocks my access to a good 
>> portion of the sidebar and looks chaotic.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>> 7. Maybe a button or dropdown to toggle the number of columns would be 
>> nice, it that is a workable possibility?
>>
>> Anyway, this opens up some interesting possibilities. Thanks a bunch for 
>> all your work on this.
>>
>> David Gifford
>> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>>
>> *Resonate Global Mission*
>> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
>> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
>> resonateglobalmission.org
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 12:03 PM, BurningTreeC > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi @Dave Gifford,
>>> thank you!
>>> do you find something useful about the whole concept?
>>>
>>> kind regards,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 15:02:51 UTC+1 schrieb Dave Gifford - 
>>> http://www.giffmex.org/:

 WOW a lot of great stuff in there!

 On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
> and pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
> add, comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on 
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Hi David, thanks a lot! Every comment helps

2. I could see using it as a photo gallery, but I would probaby try to find 
> a way to reduce the side and bottom margins, and even hide the tiddler 
> title area, so that the tiddlers are pure photos with an edit menu on hover.
>
this can easily be done with a stylesheet:

.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-title, .tc-tiddler-frame .tc-subtitle, 
.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-tiddler-title-icon {
 display: none;
}

...hides title, subtitle and tiddler-title icon (if there is one)

4. I am not sure I understand what exactly is happening when I click the 
> button in the 'create a bunch of image tiddlers' or how it might be used

thats just for demonstrating purposes in this demo site. they are all 
tiddlers where title, subtitle, tags and control buttons are hidden similar 
to the example to hide title, subtitle and icon.
the button just creates new tiddlers with a filter that filters all system 
images, applies a tag "sampletag" to each of them and opens them.

in a stylesheet there is:

.tc-tagged-sampletag .tc-tiddler-frame .tc-title, .tc-tagged-sampletag 
.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-subtitle, .tc-tagged-sampletag .tc-tiddler-frame 
.tc-tiddler-title-icon ... ... ... and so on {
 display: none;
}
every tiddler with the tag "sampletag" then shows no title, subtitle, tag 
... they are just visually hidden. ".tc-tagged-" means: each tiddler with 
the tag that comes after ".tc-tagged-" should have this style.

This is just to have something to play with, to drag around, to be 
inspired. And an idea for a usecase, like an image gallery.

"this is so cool it needs to be showcased"

this is actually a plugin called "TiddlyWikiFormula" that's being developed 
these days and weeks and these are some examples he provides on the plugin 
page http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
I think it's a great piece of work and it offers so many possibilities I'm 
getting a head-ache. It's not related with my little project.

For example, I have no idea what I did to create this mess, which blocks my 
> access to a good portion of the sidebar and looks chaotic

This is a mess that's possible at the moment ... dragging worked better 
before, until I began working on something that's not finished. I don't 
like that, too and I'll fix it soon.

Thanks for the idea with the Button for more/less columns! That's a 
no-brainer and an instant plus. I'm gonna make one.

thanks for your reply and help!

best wishes,
Simon

Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 19:29:10 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Hi BurningTreeC
>
> 1. I could see using this myself as a format for sharing quotes and 
> insights on a topic in a visually pleasing way.
> 2. I could see using it as a photo gallery, but I would probaby try to 
> find a way to reduce the side and bottom margins, and even hide the tiddler 
> title area, so that the tiddlers are pure photos with an edit menu on hover.
> 3. I could see the horizontal menu being great for presentations or 
> tutorials, anything that is step-by-step or progressive in some way.
> 4. I am not sure I understand what exactly is happening when I click the 
> button in the 'create a bunch of image tiddlers' or how it might be used. 
> Are those in fact tiddlers of the images? Yet they have no titlebar or 
> editing. And yet they can be dragged. Can you describe what is actually 
> happening? And use case - would it be for opening a gallery of images with 
> a given tag?
> 5. I don't know that I would use them myself, but the "this is so cool it 
> needs to be showcased" effects are really neat.
> 6. I think I would probably also want a 'safe' version that is just 
> scaffolding *without* the ability to drag or resize, for publishing 
> materials for others. It can get disorienting for end users when things 
> slide around and you wonder if you lost something. For example, I have no 
> idea what I did to create this mess, which blocks my access to a good 
> portion of the sidebar and looks chaotic.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
> 7. Maybe a button or dropdown to toggle the number of columns would be 
> nice, it that is a workable possibility?
>
> Anyway, this opens up some interesting possibilities. Thanks a bunch for 
> all your work on this.
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
> *Resonate Global Mission*
> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
> resonateglobalmission.org
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 12:03 PM, BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> Hi @Dave Gifford,
>> thank you!
>> do you find something useful about the whole concept?
>>
>> kind regards,
>> Simon
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 15:02:51 UTC+1 schrieb Dave Gifford - 
>> http://www.giffmex.org/:
>>>
>>> WOW a lot of great stuff in there!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:

 Hello there,

 currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
 storyview

 it's based on the muur

[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-27 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

Hi @Dave Gifford,
thank you!
do you find something useful about the whole concept?

kind regards,
Simon

Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 15:02:51 UTC+1 schrieb Dave Gifford - 
http://www.giffmex.org/:
>
> WOW a lot of great stuff in there!
>
> On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>> storyview
>>
>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>
>>
>>
>> the code repository is on github: 
>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>
>>
>> It's a *work in progress! * 
>>
>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
>> add, comment!*
>>
>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>>
>> what's missing?
>>
>>
>>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>> span-3 
>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>>needed, use tw css
>>- a packed plugin
>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
>> moving 
>>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / 
>> muuri-storyview)  
>>fixed
>>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>>   - question: how is that done?
>>- ... more to come
>>
>>
>> cheers, BurningTreeC
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

WOW a lot of great stuff in there!

On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>

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