Re: [TMIC] OT- I sing

2009-10-19 Thread Lawrence King
Thanks' for all the praise and encouragement!  I've struggled with  
performance singing since I was a little girl ( my voice was striking  
even back then)  I wanted people to like me and the quality of my  
voice was not well appreciated by my peers in the late 70's and early  
80's,  Tough their parents adored me!  I was so confused I even  
stopped singing for years.


I've finally come to the right place mentally and spiritually.   
singing should be done for the sheer joy of having been given the  
gift of voice.  I was stunned to hear that someone in our church  
complained that we sometimes worship music more than God in our  
sevices.   Creating music is a form of worship and there is plenty of  
scripture in both the old and new testament to back up the claim that  
God considers it so.  It saddens me that this person has at some  
point been made to feel musically inept and cannot connect with the  
way that music can lift our consciousness to our creator.  Psalm 100  
says make a joyful noise unto the lord God doesn't critique us the  
way our peers do.


I now know that God wanted to make me happy by giving me this voice,   
and I really enjoyed myself that night.  That some others have been  
moved by the music I made, well thats just Icing on the cake!


Will try to post whiter shade of pale next weekend.
Mindy the Artisan

On Oct 17, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Todd Tarno wrote:


Hey Mindy,
Sorry, I miss seeing this when you posted it,
my modem died and had to replace it.
Thank you for sharing your beautiful voice with the group.
Can't wait to hear more songs done by you.
Keep up the beautiful songs,
Todd in CC, TX

--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Lawrence King we4king...@verizon.net wrote:

From: Lawrence King we4king...@verizon.net
Subject: [TMIC] OT- I sing
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King we4king...@verizon.net
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 1:34 PM

Hi Guys,
I wondered If I should send you  this since it has nothing to do  
with TM but I figured  since we have lost a lot of tmic-list   
saints recently  I figured you could remember them while watching  
it.


thats me singing at my debut concert,  the traditional hymn for  
all the saints http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gx2CJuGY18



Mindy the Artisan





Re: [TMIC] OT- I sing

2009-10-14 Thread Lawrence King

So...
Will anybody be crushed by my confession that 2 songs after this one  
I sang Procol Harum's Whiter Shade of Pale?


Mindy the Artisan
On Oct 14, 2009, at 9:09 PM, roseofr...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 10/13/2009 7:25:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
grace...@gmail.com writes:

Mindy,

 You have a beautiful voice!

Hugs,

Grace

.


I second that!!  Mindy, I would love to hear you sing,
I Believe.   If you ever post that, let me know.
  Hugs,  Lynn




Re: [TMIC] OT- I sing- Gary in MI

2009-10-13 Thread Lawrence King

Dear Gary,
You moved me to tears.  I believe that as this disease robs our loved  
ones of who they are here on earth they are preserved in wholeness in  
heaven.  God be with you and your mother in the coming days.

Mindy the Artisan

On Oct 13, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Gary Thomas wrote:


Mindy,
Thank you for sharing the video of the beautiful hymn.  Although  
she is still with us, my mother today was diagnosed with  
Alzheimer's and so her life as it has been will, little by little,  
no longer be.  She came to Christ as a young girl and if it were  
not for she, I probably would not be a Christian.  So, your hymn,  
speaking of saints and their past labors, was a blessing to me today.

Gary in Michigan
- Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:34 PM
Subject: [TMIC] OT- I sing

Hi Guys,
I wondered If I should send you  this since it has nothing to do  
with TM but I figured  since we have lost a lot of tmic-list   
saints recently  I figured you could remember them while watching  
it.


thats me singing at my debut concert,  the traditional hymn for  
all the saints http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gx2CJuGY18



Mindy the Artisan






[TMIC] OT- I sing

2009-10-12 Thread Lawrence King

Hi Guys,
I wondered If I should send you  this since it has nothing to do with  
TM but I figured  since we have lost a lot of tmic-list  saints  
recently  I figured you could remember them while watching it.


thats me singing at my debut concert,  the traditional hymn for all  
the saints http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gx2CJuGY18



Mindy the Artisan



Re: [TMIC] OT- I sing

2009-10-12 Thread Lawrence King
Im so glad!  this song is really about people like Rick and Pam who  
worked at helping others and not that handful of do-gooders  
recognized by popes and princes.

Mindy the Artisan

On Oct 12, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Cindy McLeroy wrote:

Mindy, that was beautiful.  A memorial service is being held this  
week end for Rick Steele and I am suppose to say something.  This  
has helped inspire me.

  Cindy McLeroy
- Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [TMIC] OT- I sing

Hi Guys,
I wondered If I should send you  this since it has nothing to do  
with TM but I figured  since we have lost a lot of tmic-list   
saints recently  I figured you could remember them while watching  
it.


thats me singing at my debut concert,  the traditional hymn for  
all the saints http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gx2CJuGY18



Mindy the Artisan






Re: [TMIC] Prunes for those with a sweet tooth ~ ANTIBIOTICS PROBIOTICS

2009-09-21 Thread Lawrence King
Mine and a few other doctors are beginning to but she's a DO rather  
than an MD.  Osteopathic doctors are fully certified by the American  
Medical  Association but are supposed to consider body, mind and  
spirit as a whole when diagnosing a persons condition,  My DO was  
happy to hear I was a member of my church choir and Liturgical art's  
guild and made note of it in my file.  I live in a town with an  
Osteopathic med school at Ohio University... it's an interesting  
place to receive healthcare.  I often get a chance to speak directly  
to future doctors and you can bet I have fun doing so!


Mindy the Artisan

On Sep 21, 2009, at 11:40 AM, roseofr...@aol.com wrote:


Regarding the problem you had with antibiotics.
I don't understand why doctors don't prescribe
probiotics along with their antibioticsor at least
tell their patients to take themyou can buy them
over the counter  It would
solve the bad bug problem and eliminate the
diarrhea (sp?).
   Hugs,  Lynn


In a message dated 9/18/2009 11:37:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
balmat...@aol.com writes:
What's wrong with just eating the prunes?  I've used dried fruits,  
prunes, apricots, etc. as well as food that has a lot of fiber like  
beans, depending on what the situation is over the past year and  
have finally been able to regulate myself.  After 9 years of bowel  
problems, this has been so much help to me.


I haven't had as much trouble with constipation as I have had with  
loose stools.  Frankly, for me, constipation has been much easier  
to deal with, but that's my body.  Now that I've said that, I hope  
things don't go back to having problems again.  There were many  
times, sometimes for months, that I was afraid to leave my home.  I  
suffered from C-diff, where the bad bugs had overtaken my gut and  
there were hardly any good bugs left.  It has taken me a long time  
to balance that out again.  That's what antibiotics can do to you  
if you take a few.


Hugs to all, Barbara A






-Original Message-
From: roseofr...@aol.com
To: jan...@centurytel.net; cherp...@msn.com; tmic-l...@eskimo.net
Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Prunes for those with a sweet tooth

Okay girls.if you want to make this cake more healthy:-)
do not use the corn syrupthat is the worse thing you can
put in your bodyuse the honey.
also.substitute olive oil for the veg. oil.

I learned from a chef that you can substitute olive oil for
any oil in your recipesand you can substitute butter in
any recipe that calls for shortening or margarine.

I've been a happy baker ever since.  :-)
   ~ Lynn






Re: [TMIC] My beloved husband Jim

2009-09-10 Thread Lawrence King
May you feel the loving presence of God beside you as you move  
through the coming days.  Jim was truly blessed to have you as his  
companion through his life's journey.


Mindy the Artisan

On Sep 10, 2009, at 12:06 AM, cjb...@aol.com wrote:



Jim left his earthly pains and frustrations behind yesterday  
evening about an hour after being transferred to a hospice house in  
Davison Michigan. Our children and grandchildren and Alice and  
Ron,and Mary were all able to spend time with him before his death.  
I will forever be grateful for the 45 years Jim and I had together  
and for the wonderful children Jodi husband Dave,their daughter  
Samantha, husband Steven and baby Samuel. Eric and wife Cindy and  
their beautiful girls,Mackenzie,Sierra,Kaleigh,and Taylor. A  
memorial will be held on Saturday Sept.12th at 11:00am at First  
Congregational Church corner of Fifth and Bancroft, luncheon  
following. In lieu of flowers, a donation to the Transverse  
Myelitis Assoc. for research to help fight the disease that Jim  
fought so valiantly to conquer. In the end it was a stroke that  
took his life.







Re: [TMIC] New Medications

2009-09-03 Thread Lawrence King
I was on both Lyrica and  40 mg Cymbalta, I found that Cymbalta  
helped with the pain though I don't suffer from banding so I can't  
speak to that.  It also helped with my anger and depression.  As for  
side effects it  made me want to sleep 16 hrs a day and I had  
difficulty multi-tracking my thoughts.  After a major improvement in  
pain I weaned off Cymbalta this past spring.  100mg of Amantadine  
helps counteract the drowsiness.  I would go back on Cymbalta if  
things got worse.

Mindy the Artisan

On Sep 3, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Robert Pall wrote:

Readers of my postings will remember that I saw Dr Kerr in  
July and we decided to wean myself off of 2 of my medications. The  
first one I went off of was 4-Aminopyridine (a Potassium channel  
blocker) and the second med is Lyrica. Anyway I did not notice any  
change in my banding going off of the 4-AP however once I reduced  
the Lyrica from 450 mg per day (3 pills) to 150 mg per day (1 pill)  
the banding in both legs became much worse. Per Dr. Kerr I went  
back to 300 mg of Lyrica but the banding is still much worse. The  
new approach is to go back to my original meds and original  
dosages….but before Dr Kerr has me go back on the 4-AP he wants me  
to try adding Cymbalta to the Lyrica and see if that will reduce  
the banding. Question…do any of you take both Lyrica and Cymbalta  
and if so with what kind of results. If you only take Cymbalta has  
it helped and if so in what way….lastly what dosage do you take and  
are there negative side effects.


Rob in New Jersey





Re: [TMIC] OT:My Pattern published!

2009-08-22 Thread Lawrence King
Congratulations! do you have pictures on line somewhere that we can  
see the finished product?

Mindy the Artisan

On Aug 22, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Akua wrote:



This is off  Topic, but I am so full of complaints and  
disappointments--- that i share and work on here-- that i wanted to  
share a ray of hope.


I got a box the other day from Simon and Schuster... i had not clue  
what it was til i opened it...


My 2010 Crochet A Day Calendar arrived and my Flower Link scarf  
patternis in it!


This particularly sweet, not only because the pattern was rejected  
by Interweave ( so if at first you don't succeed try, try again)


but because my model was my visually challenged neighbor from the  
complex I stayed in, in Rochester while learning to live my life  
anew as a paraplegic and awaiting my home's rehab.


It was a hellishly hard and horrible time and I missed the art i  
used to make and crochet
was both a salvation and communication. I offered weekly crochet  
lessons in that building.


The picture was taken on a sunny but chilly day in the courtyard I  
used to love to roll to...

the pattern was about turning poison into medicine.
by hand
from heart


--





Re: [TMIC] TM

2009-07-25 Thread Lawrence King

Whoa there!
your statement regarding true TM and Paralysis is incorrect!  Acute  
TM means damage is done in a matter of hours or days.  Sub-acute TM  
means damage over weeks.  The information my Neuro gave me at the  
time of diagnosis stated that the rate of paralysis from TM was 50/50  
I suffered sub-acute TM at C4-C5 in the spring of 2007.  The MRI's  
and Spinal Tap analysis were pretty conclusive that I had TM.   My  
leg weakness was very small and passed within a matter of hours,  I  
was never incapacitated.  My bladder difficulties (I could always pee  
with effort) passed in the first 6 months.   Body and hand weakness  
took more than a year.  My worst symptom was and continues to be  
acute pain (Central Pain Syndrome) from the shoulders down.  My  
suffering led to a contemplation of suicide.  Those of us who fall  
into the CPS only sufferers are a small minority among TM survivors  
but as a whole our prognosis for recovery is poor.  The good news is  
that my only major improvement in pain has come after my 2nd  
anniversary.


Mindy the Artisan

On Jul 25, 2009, at 8:58 AM, fr...@franksheldon.com wrote:




*Yes, a small lesion can affect a relatively small part of the body.
Myelitis simply means inflammation of the spinal cord.   
Transverse, means

*across*.*


True transverse myelitis results in para or quadra plegia depending  
on the level of demyelination.


I have a very small area of demyelination- C6, right side of spinal  
cord, size of a small pea- but it results affecting my whole body  
from my shoulders down. So you have a small lesion affecting an  
incredibly large area of the body.


It's a bit like a gun shot wound- through my hand minimal  
treatment, through my heart maximum treatment, through my head death!


My two cents

F





Re: [TMIC] Friendships

2009-07-23 Thread Lawrence King
I've not lost any friends and in fact, with the addition of all of  
you and the other groups I have joined on line as a result of this  
disease,  my list of friends has increased tenfold.  Major life  
changes always cause a shift in focus and friends who no longer have  
similar understandings often fade away.  I left the craft word for  
the Antique restoration world and both lost and gained dozens of  
friends.  As an extreme Introvert my definition of friendship is a  
little different than many; I find frequent contact taxing even with  
the people I love most, but I am grateful for the knowledge that  
there are a great many people who would be there for me should I need  
them. You encourage each other, You pray for each other; I have seen  
some of you actually make the effort to meet in person and I have  
watched as some of you even support each other financially in times  
of need.  The new reality is that best friends can now meet and never  
see each others face.  I meet people all the time who are too busy to  
consider having a new friend an I bet if we take an inventory of  
these internet friends many of us can say we have gained more than we  
have lost.


Mindy the Artisan

On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Janice wrote:


I have another question that has been rolling around in my head.

Have any of you lost/gained friendships after developing TM/ 
MS?  Are some maybe solicitious about giving you a call periodi- 
cally, but you don't really see much of them? Or, are some of  
your friends from before TM becoming even better and closer
friends. I am talking about emotional support, visits, outings,  
etc.   I am wondering how many have stuck with you or
traveled on after the initial onset and de-hospitalization  
period. Maybe it has stayed the same.


Janice




Re: [TMIC] off Cymbalta

2009-07-23 Thread Lawrence King
thats just it, I really noticed I was doing better because I had paid  
a big price for that kind of exertion in the past but this spring I  
noticed that I had lasting vigor from working up a sweat.  My Pastor  
says that the English consider working the soil to be healing in a  
medicinal sort of way.  I grieved two miscarriages by grabbing a  
shovel and doing landscaping till I literally dropped and it really  
helped.  the garden is a little overrun as we were out of town for 11  
days but otherwise great. need to get back into the dirt!

Mindy the Artisan

On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Janice wrote:

Mindy, you really do great!How is the garden?Did you  
suffer any ill effects from the work involved?
Let me know if you get into belly dancing - I bet you would do  
great. Janice

- Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King ; Janice
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] off Cymbalta

Janice,
I took great pride in my strength before TM hit. And in part my  
depression included fearing that strength was one of the things I  
lost.  I first became aware of my improvement this spring when I  
was physically challenged by my dad (who is 80) to put in a garden  
with his help.  I've always wanted to learn belly dancing and a  
year ago I said to myself  guess that's one thing I won't get to  
do this lifetime  think I'll prove that assumption wrong this fall.



Mindy the Artisan

On Jul 22, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Janice wrote:


Mindy,
I bet you didn't realize how strong you are - good go'in!!
Janice
- Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: [TMIC] off Cymbalta

Hi folks,

I weaned off Cymbalta very slow and methodically, removing 35 more  
grains per capsule every 4 days until there were only 35 left.  I  
took the last dose one month ago and have been doing great.  There  
were no ill effects during wean down and I am thrilled with my  
renewed energy and clear-headedness.  I have 9 days left  with  
which to prepare for the SeatWeavers' Guild meeting.  So keep me  
and the event in your prayers!



Mindy the Artisan









[TMIC] off Cymbalta

2009-07-22 Thread Lawrence King

Hi folks,

I weaned off Cymbalta very slow and methodically, removing 35 more  
grains per capsule every 4 days until there were only 35 left.  I  
took the last dose one month ago and have been doing great.  There  
were no ill effects during wean down and I am thrilled with my  
renewed energy and clear-headedness.  I have 9 days left  with which  
to prepare for the SeatWeavers' Guild meeting.  So keep me and the  
event in your prayers!



Mindy the Artisan



Re: [TMIC] arts

2009-07-01 Thread Lawrence King
I love the Cry  and was very happy when it was recovered.   Went  
pumpkin hunting for Halloween about 10 years ago and saw a tall,  
twisted and skinny pumpkin and it reminded me of the face in the  
cry so I got it and made the cry jack-o-lantern.  Looked  
wonderful!  wish I could locate the picture.


Mindy the Artist

On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:54 AM, wim from holland wrote:

I also started doing arts since TM. It comes with periods,  
sometimes a year nothing and then a few paintings in a short  
period. I started small but at the end I tried some larger ones,  
and it is nice to do. But there is one problem with kids who has to  
decorate there new homes, since they are one there own, some  
paintings, especially the larger ones are all confiscated by the  
kids. I am proud fo it ofcourse, luckely I still have the  
pictures.  The two i send you are the largest ones, 80 x 100cm (32  
x 40 inch).


I copied them from photo's of the internet. They are both original  
from Evard Munch. Both were been stolen out of the Swedisch museum  
and found back 5 years later. But I had nothing to do with that,  
they are named The Madonna and The Cry.


Tanks to Jim, who told me that the pictures and mails ate limited  
to 40k, I send them in two separate  mails. Think I send you more,  
in the mail what it is, most of them are from pictures or photo's,  
with the help of a photo projector.


Wim from Holland


Alle tips en trics. Ontdek nu de nieuwe Windows Live




Re: [TMIC] Artist w TM in New York times

2009-06-26 Thread Lawrence King

thanks Akua,
I have to agree with you.  and a better approach would have been   
hi, I'm a TM survivor too, your accomplishments are really  
inspirational...  I can vouch for the fact that those openings are  
really exhausting and the last one I did was years before TM.

On Jun 27, 2009, at 12:09 AM, Akua wrote:

Gee, I guess I am a curmudgeon. I see no reason why anyone *must*   
answer questions from strangers.  It's not getting the word out  
since most people have no manners, are nosy, crass and  
insensitive.  I don't see his behavior as rude  at all... at  
least not as described.

.
After all the public time and on his way away, he's asked if he has  
a disease that he has said he

has and because he doesn't want to engage this is considered rude?

The asker-- already knows about TM!

Especially with the death of Michael Jackson, I feel sensitized to  
the strange expectations that people

have, the demands and the intrusions.

This artist has many high profile nights --- he was there to  
present his ART  not his ILLNESS!


When I first performed again after TM left me in pain  paralyzed  
and wheelchair bound, the last thing I wanted to talk about  was  
TM.   Maybe you two feel differently because you are both still  
mobile.

Creating is my respite from pain and limitation.

I've lost several art forms because of TM. I can no longer make hot  
glass and  my papermaking, which
is plant based has been severely curtailed. It is hard to play the  
tenor sax in the wheelchair.  I lost
a publication -- I was hospitalized when my final edits  were due  
to the publisher


TM is an agonizing  hell that I would not want to  have reenter in   
some rare transcendent moment,


I sure wish I had  his limo and assistance getting to and from  
events. LOL!


Akua





You know there are some days after working over 8 hours, going to  
the pool 3 days a week and swimming 1/2 miles I am DONE also but  
NEVER, NEVER be that rude or cold to anyone!! anytime someone  
wants to ask about the wheel chair, my walker, ect I am nothing  
short of a chatter box!! lets get the word out! and if on this  
night he had some type of high profile night he shold have been  
an advocate for all of us!
-- Original message from T Kanon sseco...@yahoo.com:  
--


Last night was the opening of this artist's exhibit at the  
Brooklyn Museum and I attended.  Two people helped him walk down  
the aisle and onto the stage.  It looked as if his hands were  
affected too.  After the lecture I saw him in his wheelchair being  
taken to a limo.  I went over to him and asked if indeed he had  
TM.  He didn't even look at me and just said I'm done.  A guard  
said he is very tired.  I know he was tired but he was also very  
rude!!!

Tobe
Brooklyn NY

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Akua a...@artfarm.com wrote:


From: Akua a...@artfarm.com
Subject: [TMIC] Artist w TM in New York times
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:42 PM


very interesting article on interesting artist who  
had...transverse myelitis.  and was paralyzed.  but no longer is..  
regained ability to walk after three years in  a wheelchair


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/arts/design/21sont.html? 
_r=1scp=1sq=shonibarest=cse





--

You know there are some days after working over 8 hours, going to  
the pool 3 days a week and swimming 1/2 miles I am DONE also but  
NEVER, NEVER be that rude or cold to anyone!! anytime someone  
wants to ask about the wheel chair, my walker, ect I am nothing  
short of a chatter box!! lets get the word out! and if on this  
night he had some type of high profile night he shold have been  
an advocate for all of us!
-- Original message from T Kanon sseco...@yahoo.com:  
--
Last night was the opening of this artist's exhibit at the  
Brooklyn Museum and I attended.  Two people helped him walk down  
the aisle and onto the stage.  It looked as if his hands were  
affected too.  After the lecture I saw him in his wheelchair being  
taken to a limo.  I went over to him and asked if indeed he had  
TM.  He didn't even look at me and just said I'm done.  A guard  
said he is very tired.  I know he was tired but he was also very  
rude!!!

Tobe
Brooklyn NY

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Akua a...@artfarm.com wrote:


From: Akua a...@artfarm.com
Subject: [TMIC] Artist w TM in New York times
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:42 PM
very interesting article on interesting artist who  
had...transverse myelitis.  and was paralyzed.  but no longer  
is.. regained ability to walk after three years in  a wheelchair


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/arts/design/21sont.html? 
_r=1scp=1sq=shonibarest=cse



--



--






Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page

2009-06-25 Thread Lawrence King
I'm on face book! to become a friend go to facebook.com/ 
mindy.chairweaver



Mindy the Artist

On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:33 PM, Jim Lubin wrote:


there are several TM-ADEM-NMO groups on Facebook, most are linked here
http://www.myelitis.org/support.htm

Jim
(who has become addicted to the Farm Town game on Facebook)

At 06:43 PM 6/24/2009, Akua wrote:

I'm digging Facebook--- what about creating a fan page.
--



Jim Lubin
jlu...@eskimo.com
http://makoa.org/jim
disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org








Re: [TMIC] AntiDepressant

2009-06-19 Thread Lawrence King
I found going on Cymbalta very helpful even though I've remained  
walking wounded the entire time. I found it lifted my mood without  
interfering with my ability to address my life adjustment issues like  
the older generation of antidepressants would have done.  This  
disease hit me hard even though I suffered less than most on this  
list because I tend to be terminally serious to begin with (my saving  
grace is I married a very comical person).


Now a 1 3/4 years after starting cymbalta I feel ready to go off with  
my doctors blessing and over the last month I have gradually reduced  
the 30 mg dose down to 15mg.  As I began writing this letter I  
thought it a good Idea to encourage you to try a depression test or 2  
(google it and you'll find ton's)  Then realized it would be a good  
thing to take my own advice as a measure of my weaning success and am  
happy to say that even at half the lowest available commercial dose I  
am not back sliding mood wise.  If you take a few and find you are  
not depressed then tell your doctor, I'm sure he or she will be  
reassured by your findings.


For me going an antidepressant has been a hand up to getting better  
and it's okay to ask for help!  I no longer need that hand up but I  
acknowledge that having TM as an impairment I may need a hand up  
again when life throws me another curve ball. But now I know how to  
ask for it and how to get off of it as well!


recovering Alcoholics in AA call trying to get sober by yourself   
white knuckle sobriety  we TM survivors have enough pain in our  
lives, we don't need to white knuckle our mood on top of everything  
else we have to face.


Mindy the Artist

On Jun 19, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Akua wrote:

One thing the neuro told me in ICU was that an antidepressant was  
very important because of having to go thru all of the issues of  
being paralyzed and the changes I would have to go thru with my life.



When the Drs said that to me, I wanted to slap them. I wanted a  
laptop, not a pill. I felt like they were setting me up for further  
disability.  Of course I was unhappy. Fearful even, but I wasn't  
depressed.
I never approached depression til last year when i came home to  
ramps i couldn't use, no transport
 and an inaccessible shower--- after waiting over a year for the  
house rehab by an agency that paid an alleged expert to oversee the  
construction. This is about externalities blocking me. Too bad the  
money I don't spend on drugs is not available to me to do the other  
things I need done: another hour or two of an aide, paratransit,  
help weeding in the yard, an accessible front ramp, a lift to my  
second floor... little things that would make a HUGE difference in  
the quality of my life. Or even--- dare I say---  fixing the  
condition: a standing machine, an exerciser, water therapy, stem  
cell therapy... instead of all or any of these things, instead of  
addressing causes or even teaching me how to live as a paraplegic  
--- all or any of these ---  fix or assist with them before you  
deem me depressed and prescribe a pill.


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Re: [TMIC] Relationships

2009-06-15 Thread Lawrence King
I believe karma is strictly an interpersonal thing and that there are  
many factors in the world which are driven by the nature of our  
universe. Good and bad things happen with out regard to who it  
affects.   Karma had nothing to do with the plague, the 2004 tsunami,  
the 1918 flu pandemic,  there is a chaos to our world and we are  
subject to it.  Especially when it comes to illnesses!


I believe we all are survivors of a random event of viral chaos.  In  
fact everyone (and for that matter every living thing) on earth who  
lives long enough will experience some form of debilitation.  Karma,  
the golden rule, turning the other cheek--- they're just philosophies  
we can chose to aid us in our learning to cope and they are great  
ideas that can enrich our lives significantly.


I hate the phrase things happen for a reason  Some things do but I  
think many more things do not and I believe Not one of us brought  
this upon ourselves because we were bad!  Our creator loves us just  
as much as those who are whole in body.  remember:   Blessed are the  
poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven


The key is that we have an opportunity to give reason to what has  
happened to us.  Or, we can be crushed by our circumstances.  This  
choice is our free will in action.  Looking for blame in ourselves or  
others allows us to pass the buck and not move forward.


I had a period of suicidal thinking right after High school and when  
I told a friend, rather than expressing concern or sympathy she  
launched in and verbally whooped my ASS for having so many  
blessings and thinking my life was something I could just throw  
away.  Angels come in many forms and I thank God for that memory.


Mindy the Artist
Down to the half dose level in my Cymbalta weaning and doing great!


On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:26 AM, ladyno...@aol.com wrote:


Kevin,

I also believe in Karma and also tried to live my life according to  
the golden rule.  Which makes me wonder, if I did something so bad  
to someone, that I would end up in this situation.  If I made any  
mistakes that warrant this, I would remember.  It's hard to say  
that people reap what they sow when I'm in the condition I'm in.


Naomi
C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005
Due to Transverse Myelitis

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Re: [TMIC] antidepressants

2009-05-30 Thread Lawrence King

dear Jude,  patti, Jim and Marieke,
While I haven't spent a long time thinking about getting off The  
antidepressant because I had not noticed my improvements until  they  
reached the level of obvious and dramatic but I did weigh the pros  
and cons and I was the one who asked the doctor to put me on it in  
the first place.


I know I have more to come to terms with in my life after TM but my  
body was not as affected as many others have been,  Although my  
damage is at C4-C5 I never lost mobility.  My gait is natural and  
none of my friends ever suspected I was Ill.  but the pain from my  
chest down was shocking... literally!  its like I've had my finger  
stuck in a light socket for over 2 years.  When I went on Cymbalta I  
wanted to quell the urge to jump off a cliff to make the pain stop  
and I was angry that my otherwise able body should be filled with  
incapacitating pain.


Now that the pain has lessened I feel that the drugs side effects:  
drowsiness, fogginess, weight gain and some funny attitudes that are  
hard to describe are getting in the way of my goals for this day and  
the future.  I've got 40 capsules left and I thought I'd take a full  
month or more to slowly ween down.  today I took a cap with 10 grains  
removed and I figured I'd stay with that for a few days before moving  
to 20 grains.  I am still on Lyrica and it doesn't make me so sleepy,  
If I miss the pain reduction of Cymbalta I'll ask for an increase of  
Lyrica.


I will also have my Husband and Kids watching me 24/7 now that school  
is out (hubby teaches High school) my 14 year old daughter is very  
observant and we communicate quite well so she'll be in on the mom  
watch if any time is good for me to try to go off this is it.  I  
think I'll also write in to you guys every reduction I make.


Thanks for all your help!

Mindy the Artist

On May 30, 2009, at 9:59 AM, heyjude48...@aol.com wrote:


Dearest Mindy,

It has only been two years for you.  That is not a long time and  
even though you may feel that you are emotionally healed and have  
accepted your life the way it is now, I doubt that you have.  You  
would be exceptional if you were that stable.  I'm not saying that  
you are not stable, but from experience, I know how big the losses  
are with TM and they sneak up on you years after you think you are  
finished with them.


I would like others to comment on this one.  It's very important  
and I am interested in what you have to say.


Even with blessings from your doctor, Mindy, I would be very  
careful and think this through thoroughly.  I love you so much and  
only want you to be safe, healthy and happy.


Love and Prayers,
Jude

In a message dated 5/29/2009 2:45:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
we4king...@verizon.net writes:

Dear friends.
I am continuing to feel better.  Now that I look back I can see  
that I have been Improving for about a month even though I'm passed  
the 2 year mark.  The hope it has given me above and beyond the  
general coming to terms and acceptance that one should reach by  
their 2 year mark, has made me decide that I am ready to get off my  
antidepressant.  I have read that Cymbalta is very difficult to  
come off of and that other people have had good results opening the  
capsules and reducing the dose incrementally themselves every few  
days.  I just spoke with my doctor and have her blessing in this  
endeavor as she has had other patients wean off successfully doing  
this.


Cymbalta saved my life and helped with the nerve pain in ways that  
other antidepressants do not but I am ready to face the world  
again.  Will keep you all informed of my progress!



Mindy the Artist

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[TMIC] antidepressants

2009-05-29 Thread Lawrence King

Dear friends.
I am continuing to feel better.  Now that I look back I can see that  
I have been Improving for about a month even though I'm passed the 2  
year mark.  The hope it has given me above and beyond the general  
coming to terms and acceptance that one should reach by their 2  
year mark, has made me decide that I am ready to get off my  
antidepressant.  I have read that Cymbalta is very difficult to come  
off of and that other people have had good results opening the  
capsules and reducing the dose incrementally themselves every few  
days.  I just spoke with my doctor and have her blessing in this  
endeavor as she has had other patients wean off successfully doing this.


Cymbalta saved my life and helped with the nerve pain in ways that  
other antidepressants do not but I am ready to face the world again.   
Will keep you all informed of my progress!



Mindy the Artist



Re: [TMIC] Improving?????

2009-05-25 Thread Lawrence King
I started on Lyrica in the spring of 2007 and added Cymbalta in the  
fall 2007.  It helped tremendously with the pain and my depression  
but also made me sleepy. Adding Amantadine 100mg morning and noon  
help counteract drowsiness but if you're not depressed I'd stay off.   
Cymbalta saved my life but I hear it is hellish to wean off of.  I've  
heard of some people opening up capsules and removing grains to make  
successively lower doses to help withdrawal and if I continue to feel  
better and stronger I want to get off it first.  I don't mind staying  
on Lyrica as I do really well on it .

Mindy the Artist

On May 25, 2009, at 5:38 AM, pwi1991...@aol.com wrote:

Hi Mndy are you saying that cymbalta makes you sleep a lot or it is  
better for pain. My neuro wants to put me on. Is this a side affect  
for you? I am afraid to take them from hearing about these side  
effects I take Flexril and it makes  me so drowsy. Will you give me  
some points? I do hope you get better

Peggy Wilson

In a message dated 5/24/2009 9:11:43 P.M. US Mountain Standard  
Time, we4king...@verizon.net writes:
I've had a week of less pain over all and almost no buzz when I tip  
my head down ( L'hermittes' sign)  have been able to use a hoe and  
shovel in the garden my father (he's 81 and healthy as a horse)  
helped me plant.  One year ago I was in too much pain and  
depression to plant  things and left the small garden my husband  
and kids planted to go to seed.  keep me in your prayers!  Perhaps  
I'll be able to wean off Cymbalta and not need to sleep 16 hours a  
day




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[TMIC] Improving?????

2009-05-24 Thread Lawrence King
I've had a week of less pain over all and almost no buzz when I tip  
my head down ( L'hermittes' sign)  have been able to use a hoe and  
shovel in the garden my father (he's 81 and healthy as a horse)  
helped me plant.  One year ago I was in too much pain and depression  
to plant  things and left the small garden my husband and kids  
planted to go to seed.  keep me in your prayers!  Perhaps I'll be  
able to wean off Cymbalta and not need to sleep 16 hours a day




Mindy the Artist



Re: [TMIC] Fw: my transverse myelitis story

2009-05-07 Thread Lawrence King
I recently passed my 2 year mark and today I am going to try out  a  
TEN's unit so wish me luck!


Mindy the Artist

On May 7, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Tami Streeter wrote:

Janice, Thank you for saying this about the 2 year mark.  I am  
getting close to it and found myself getting nervous and down  
thinking “this is it”.  You guys keep me going!


Thanks,
Tami
From: Patricia Cooley [mailto:patticoo...@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:21 AM
To: 'Janice'; 'Amanda Diskey'; pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic- 
l...@eskimo.com

Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fw: my transverse myelitis story

YOU ARE RIGHT JANICE.  I GUESS AS LONG AS I AM DRAWING A BREATHE I  
WILL HOPE AND WORK TOWARDS ANY IMPROVEMENT NO MATTER HOW LONG IT  
TAKES.   THANKS FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT.


PATTI IN WISCONSIN

From: Janice [mailto:jan...@centurytel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:38 PM
To: Patricia Cooley; 'Amanda Diskey'; pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic- 
l...@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fw: my transverse myelitis story

Amanda and Patti,

 When you think of the 2-year mark, don't be too disappointed if  
you are not where you want to be.   I let it be a big thing for
me and was panicky when 2 years came and I wasn't where I wanted to  
be and felt there would be no more recovery.
Recovery still happens.   Your body doesn't know 2 years from  
butkus!The doc's are only saying the biggest hunk of
recovery comes a b o u t  then.  There will be more. Also, I  
think something happens in the adjustment to your body.   You
begin to accept, but are still working for improvement.   At least,  
that was the way it is for me at 28 months of TM.

Janice
- Original Message -
From: Patricia Cooley
To: 'Amanda Diskey' ; pjv1...@chartermi.net ; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fw: my transverse myelitis story

AMANDA:
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PUT THROUGH THE WRINGER.  I AM SO  
SORRY FOR ALL YOU HAVE SUFFERED.  I WAS DIAGNOISED WITH TM LAST  
JUNE.  WHEN IT HAPPENED I WAS UNABLE TO MOVE MY LEGS AND HAD NO  
FEELING.  IN THE LAST 11 MONTHS I HAVE COME A LONG, LONG WAY.  THE  
BIGGEST CHANGE HAS BEEN IN THE LAST 2-3 MONTHS.  I HAD BEEN ABLE TO  
USE A WALKER, BUT I FIGURED I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO USE A CANE.   
BUT, ALL OF A SUDDEN I FIND THAT I CAN USE A CANE AND EVEN WALK  
WITHOUT A WALKER OR CANE.  I DO NEED TO GRAB HOLD OF FURNITURE OR  
THE WALL, BUT I AM ABLE TO WALK SHORT DISTANCES.  SO PLEASE DON’T  
GIVE UP.  KEEP UP WITH YOUR THERAPY.  I THINK IN MY CASE I WAS  
FORTUNATELY DISGNOISED IMMEDIATELY AND PUT ON STEROIDS RIGHT AWAY.
EVERYONE HAS SAID THAT IMPROVEMENT COULD HAPPEN WITHIN THE FIRST 2  
YEARS, SO WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO BEFORE WE REACH THAT POINT.   
DON’T GIVE UP.  WE ARE HERE FOR EACH OTHER SO KEEP US POSTED.


PATTI IN WISCONSIN



From: pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; Amanda Diskey adis...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 6:38:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fw: my transverse myelitis story

Amanda,
I have chills from reading your story and I think they started when  
I read that you can wiggle your toes.  I hope you continue to  
acquire movement and will keep us up-to-date on your  
accomplishments.  I was still healing at nine months and pray  
that you are too.


Patti - Michigan
 Amanda Diskey adis...@yahoo.com wrote:






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From: Amanda Diskey adis...@yahoo.com
To: wllo...@tampabay.rr.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 12:33:53 PM
Subject: my transverse myelitis story





Hello, I am Amanda a 30 year old single mother of two awesome kids,  
and this is my story about the worst day of my life! I got up that  
day and helped my boyfriend clean his daddy's house, we ate lunch  
when we were finished, and I went outside for a smoke. While  
smoking my cigarette I started having chest pains, and my right arm  
was hurting so I went back in and laid on the couch. About an hour  
later, or maybe more, I decided to go to the ER in case I was  
having a heart attack. They took me back immediately, but they  
could find nothing wrong with me. After six hours of tests I told  
them the chest pains were probably caused by my GERD (acid reflux)  
because it had happened to me before, and I wanted to go on home.  
After I left i noticed one of my knees buckled every time I took a  
step, but I didn't think much of it. I went to bed early cause I  
just didn't feel good, and I woke up about 11 p.m. because my back  
was on fire like it was sunburnt. There was a
  rash across my shoulders and down my spine. I was feeling really  
bad, and I told my boyfriend I needed to go back to the hospital.  
When I went to get out of bed I almost fell in the floor, but he  
caught me. I could not stand so he had to carry me to the car along  
with both kids. So here we go, I have to stop on the way and  
started throwing up over and over again. I finally get to my second  
hospital of the day only to run tests until 

Re: [TMIC] Balance

2009-04-15 Thread Lawrence King
I lose my balance when I close my eyes too. my PT said I have lost my  
somatosensation and that I need to protect my eyes because it's my  
sight that is keeping me upright and 90 degrees from the horizon  
line, parallel to doorways and lampposts etc...  look ahead and not  
down at my feet when walking!


Mindy the Artist

On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:01 AM, L T CHERPESKI wrote:

IOh yes, right with you ladies on all of that.  I always touch  
something when I'm standing too, Janice.  And Barb, for heavens  
sake.  How in the world could you stand on a pillow with your eyes  
closed and lean in any direction.  You are one brave woman.  I also  
cannot close my eyes and have any balance - and I get a panic  
feeling when the power has gone out due to a storm and my house is  
completely dark. I lose all perception.  We TMers are different in  
some ways and yet so much alike in other ways.


Linda
- Original Message -
From: Janice
To: jharpe...@aol.com ; mother...@gmail.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Balance

Barb, I am exactly the same way with balance.   I didn't realize it  
until I read what you said.  I always touch something when
standing, etc.   Doesn't take much, but I seem to need it  
too.Janice

- Original Message -
From: jharpe...@aol.com
To: mother...@gmail.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Balance

Yes, that's one of my continuing problems. My balance is worse when  
standing still (even with eyes open) than walking, though I  
sometimes lose balance while walking, too.


When I was taking physical therapy, my PT had a name for that, but  
I don't remember what it was. She had me stand on a pillow with my  
eyes closed and lean as far as I could in one direction and then  
another while she stood by to catch me if I fell (don't try this at  
home alone!!!)


It's improved, but it is still a factor. Sometimes at church a  
larger group will be singing across on stage just holding their  
music, and I think, I could never do that! I ended up leaving choir  
because I felt like I couldn't keep my balance. Having some  
reference point helps -- the back of my legs touching a chair or  
just touching a table or the wall. I don't need to hold on to or  
lean on something, usually -- just have something to touch.


Barbara H.
http://barbarah.wordpress.com

In a message dated 4/14/2009 9:25:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mother...@gmail.com writes:
P. S. I cannot close my eyes and balance myself. I get dizzy..  
anyone else???


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Re: [TMIC] Campaign To Cure Paralysis

2009-04-10 Thread Lawrence King

I'm counted. Picture included...


Mindy the Artist

On Apr 10, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Jim Lubin wrote:


Be counted! Put yourself on the map.
http://www.campaigntocureparalysis.org/





[TMIC] Support Access to e-books for People with Disabilities

2009-04-07 Thread Lawrence King

I just got this from NSCIA and thought it was worth your attention.
Mindy the Artist

Begin forwarded message:


From: NSCIA subscr...@spinalcord.org
Date: April 7, 2009 2:39:26 PM EDT
To: we4king...@verizon.net
Subject: Support Access to e-books for People with Disabilities

As part of its role in the Reading Rights Coalition, NSCIA is  
engaged in a campaign to obtain access for people with print  
disabilities to e-books available for Amazon’s new Kindle 2 e-book  
reader. The new reader, which Amazon is working to make fully  
accessible, has the ability to use text-to-speech to read these e- 
books aloud; but under pressure from the Authors Guild, Amazon has  
announced that authors and publishers will be allowed to disable  
the text-to-speech function.  Please read and sign the petition.


Language is fundamental to being human, and access to information  
- whether for education, entertainment or communication - is an  
integral part of life. In fact, it's how many living with  
disabilities find access to the information and resources they need  
to achieve the highest possible quality of life. Restricting that  
for any reason is not acceptable. Like screen readers and other  
forms of text to speech, electronic book readers will provide  
greater access to information for all people K. Eric Larson,  
executive director and CEO of NSCIA, said recently.


More than 25 organizations have joined to form the Reading Rights  
Coalition, which has set up an on-line petition to urge the Authors  
Guild and Amazon to reverse course.


If you are using screen access technology, the first three fields  
on the form to sign the petition may not be announced. They are, in  
order: (1) a drop-down menu from which to select your prefix (Mr.,  
Mrs., etc.); (2) an edit field for your first name, and (3) an edit  
field for your last name. The rest of the fields should announce  
themselves as you tab to them.


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-To-Read



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Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-27 Thread Lawrence King
I'm not implying that at all.  I just didn't go into that definition  
for the sake of brevity.  The light hearted comment about turning 18  
meant that every child takes a tremendous amount of life support to  
raise.  but if you insist on a definition:  I believe that any infant  
who is alive at the time of onset of labor (whether natural or  
surgical) is entitled to what ever life support we have to offer.  In  
some cases like ancephaly there are hard choices for parents to  
make.  But I am sharing my views and not writing a policy that will  
be used to make life and death decisions beyond my own family.


Mindy the Artist

On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:03 AM, jharpe...@aol.com wrote:



Mindy, by that logic, a baby who needed life support at birth would  
not be entitled to it. I've known many families of children born  
prematurely who needed a great deal of help at first, but who grew  
and thrived with help, including ventilators.


Barbara H.
http://barbarah.wordpress.com/

In a message dated 3/25/2009 8:27:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
we4king...@verizon.net writes:
  My experience also led me to the conclusion that a life that  
cannot survive outside the mother is not entitled to citizenship  
rights equal to that of the mother until it is mature enough to  
survive once the umbilical cord is cut (or has turned 18, which  
ever comes first).

Mindy the Artist

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Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-27 Thread Lawrence King

Ah Barbara,
the problem with email is that it's not a 3 dimensional form of  
communication.  face value is very different when you are actually  
face to face!


now I see what you're referring to...  In the 6 years between the  
birth of my daughter and the birth of my son ideas on healthy  
pregnancy did a 180 and everyone felt entitled to tell you what you  
needed to do even if you weren't doing anything bad in the first  
place  I was an older mom and read every book I could before  
methodically trying to conceive and then methodically solving my  
miscarriage issues.  When I was pregnant with my son I went to the  
clinic on the 18th day after conception and said to the doctor skip  
the pregnancy test cause I am, just test my progesterone levels and  
see if it's okay  (I needed to supplement)


So as you can Imagine I got testy when people seemed to care more for  
the unborn infant than me,  I was better informed that most of the  
advice givers and it was still my body.


Mindy the Artist

On Mar 27, 2009, at 3:56 PM, jharpe...@aol.com wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. Just taking the statement at face  
value it sounded different.


Barbara H.
http://barbarah.wordpress.com/

In a message dated 3/27/2009 12:58:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
we4king...@verizon.net writes:
I'm not implying that at all.  I just didn't go into that  
definition for the sake of brevity.  The light hearted comment  
about turning 18 meant that every child takes a tremendous amount  
of life support to raise.  but if you insist on a definition:  I  
believe that any infant who is alive at the time of onset of labor  
(whether natural or surgical) is entitled to what ever life support  
we have to offer.  In some cases like ancephaly there are hard  
choices for parents to make.  But I am sharing my views and not  
writing a policy that will be used to make life and death decisions  
beyond my own family.


Mindy the Artist

On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:03 AM, jharpe...@aol.com wrote:



Mindy, by that logic, a baby who needed life support at birth  
would not be entitled to it. I've known many families of children  
born prematurely who needed a great deal of help at first, but who  
grew and thrived with help, including ventilators.


Barbara H.
http://barbarah.wordpress.com/

In a message dated 3/25/2009 8:27:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
we4king...@verizon.net writes:
  My experience also led me to the conclusion that a life that  
cannot survive outside the mother is not entitled to citizenship  
rights equal to that of the mother until it is mature enough to  
survive once the umbilical cord is cut (or has turned 18, which  
ever comes first).

Mindy the Artist

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Re: [TMIC] going to DC

2009-03-26 Thread Lawrence King
Try to find the Albert Einstein memorial near the Vietnam Vets  
Memorial  Constitution Ave.  we wanted to get there but the bone  
chilling cold 9F.  got the better of us and we gave up on both.  It's  
a site most tourists miss and don't know about.  and the museum of  
natural history is renovated and wonderful... you can see the hope  
diamond.


I want to hear about it when you get back!

On Mar 26, 2009, at 9:09 PM, ptpatti200...@aol.com wrote:

Mindy the Artist


Thanks Mindy
I found the info on the tourmobile before we decided that I needed  
some sort of transport and I forgot about the wheelchair storage on  
the bus so that link was helpful. .  It will be perfect.  I found  
that it was the only bus through the cemetary - one of our desired  
stops.   I know we are going to use their two-day pass and see all  
of those sights.  Did you have a special spot that I might miis if  
I wasn't aware of it in advance?  I'm taking all the advice I can get.

Thanks
Patti - Michigan


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence King we4king...@verizon.net
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King we4king...@verizon.net
Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 2:38 pm
Subject: Re: [TMIC] going to DC

Hi Patti,

We went to DC in Jan for my father-in-laws funeral at Arlington  
Natnl.  Cemetery and decided it was now or never to show the kids  
DC.  What ever your needs are I encourage you to take this tour  
bus:  http://www.tourmobile.com/disability.phpand not the  
other ones.  I believe it cost us $32 per adult a day and we could  
get on and off at will.  I am walking wounded and would have been  
in agony if I had to walk from monument to monument.  I gave you  
the disability page so you can discuss your needs with them.  this  
is the only tour that has Natln. park service affiliation (and the  
monuments are a natnl. park)  and be happy there are accommodations  
at all the monuments to allow full access regardless of  your level  
of ability.  So enjoy yourself and wear an Obama button (the  
workers will be friendlier)




Mindy the Artist


Jeanne
What a story!  You couldn't make that up if you tried and I think  
it's better (or worse) than anything I've seen on House.  Your  
miracle is that you lived long enough to get to the right hospital  
and that they started you on steroids.  Thanks for sharing the  
details.


You brought up the subject of maneuverability and I need help  
dealing with it.


I decided it was time to go to Washington DC - a long-time desire  
of my hubby and myself.  I always use a cane and have a wheelchair  
that I loaned out a year ago, but could get back. I quit wearing  
my AFO after two years because my feet burn and I prefer to wear  
shoes that I can take off every time I sit down (even in public.)   
I looked pitiful sitting with my brace beside me letting my feet  
breathe.  So, I will need to use a walker and/or be pushed in a  
wheelchair in Washington and am concerned about my hubby lifting  
the chair in and out of our car.  I have looked at 3 wheeled  
walkers that would be easier to maneuver in crowds, 4 wheeled  
walkers of all kinds, a 4 wheeled that turns into a transport  
chair ($400), and just a simple transport chair itself   A  
transport chair is a wheelchair for being pushed in, with (4) ten- 
inch wheels instead of the large wheels on the back for self- 
maneuvering.  The transport chair ! is about 12 lbs. lighter than  
my wheelchair and would be easier to get into my small car.  The 4  
wheeled walker that turns into a wheelchair is $400 on-line.  A  
transport wheelchair is $200 at Walmart.  I can buy a 3-wheeled or  
a 4-wheeled walker for $50 each on Craigslist.  What would YOU  
take to Washington DC?  What will I need?

How will I feel using one for the first time?

I DON'T want to have to use any of them!  I'm ANGRY!

Patti - Michigan



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Re: [TMIC] Embrionic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Lawrence King

Jim,

I have even more respect for your view now that you have explained it  
in such a personal way.   I haven't changed my own view but I love  
getting to wear the other persons moccasins (I'm Christian and my  
best friend is Buddhist).   I'm thrilled at how well this discussion  
has gone (can we talk about race next... just kidding)


Mindy the Artist

On Mar 26, 2009, at 8:02 PM, Jim Lubin wrote:

They are just going to throw those unused blastocysts away only  
because someone is making the choice to do so. After they are  
created they remain frozen indefinitely until a decision is made by  
someone to remove them from their frozen state.


I've seen the argument be made that they are going to die anyway so  
why not use them to help others, such as organ donation. I started  
thing about that reasoning a few years ago. As someone who is only  
being kept alive by a ventilator breathing for me I began thinking  
that someone could decide that if I was taken off the ventilator  
I would die anyway so why not use my organs to better someone  
else's life. Someone might decide that my heart, my liver, my lungs  
would be better used by someone else who might be more important or  
more productive, less of a burden cost wise, to society. I am not  
an organ donor.


Remember the Terri Schiavo case in 2005? It was a big topic on the  
vent-users list. Her husband claimed she was in a Persistent  
vegetative state, her family said she was not. The media kept  
saying they want to remove her from life support. She was not on  
life support, she had a feeding tube. Big difference. A ventilator  
is life support. Her feeding tube was removed and she was starved  
to death because nutrition was withheld. It was very scary to  
everyone who is on life support they way people were fighting to  
get her feeding tube removed. If people felt so strongly about her  
being removed what about us?


I believe that human life begins at conception and that those  
blastocytes should be protected until natural death. Use them what  
they were created for or keep them frozen (i.e. on life support). I  
don't think these blastocytes should have been created in the first  
place, if a couple can't have a baby without intervention then it's  
not meant to be. That's just what I believe. Obviously it's legal  
so the world doesn't operate the way I believe.


Jim

At 10:24 AM 3/26/2009, Westgold wrote:
They just throw those unused blastocytes in the garbage, they end  
up in some medical waste dump somewhere.  Would you rather than  
that, than see those cells being used to help cure a lot of  
horrible diseases?  You say that you support organ donation --  
isn't giving these blastocytes a chance to help save somoene's  
life similar to organ donation?  Don't you think they would rather  
do some good with whatever life they have, rather than just be  
thrown in a dump?


Jim Lubin
jlu...@eskimo.com
http://makoa.org/jim
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Re: [TMIC] going to DC

2009-03-25 Thread Lawrence King

Hi Patti,

We went to DC in Jan for my father-in-laws funeral at Arlington  
Natnl.  Cemetery and decided it was now or never to show the kids  
DC.  What ever your needs are I encourage you to take this tour  
bus:  http://www.tourmobile.com/disability.phpand not the  
other ones.  I believe it cost us $32 per adult a day and we could  
get on and off at will.  I am walking wounded and would have been in  
agony if I had to walk from monument to monument.  I gave you the  
disability page so you can discuss your needs with them.  this is the  
only tour that has Natln. park service affiliation (and the monuments  
are a natnl. park)  and be happy there are accommodations at all the  
monuments to allow full access regardless of  your level of ability.   
So enjoy yourself and wear an Obama button (the workers will be  
friendlier)




Mindy the Artist


Jeanne
What a story!  You couldn't make that up if you tried and I think  
it's better (or worse) than anything I've seen on House.  Your  
miracle is that you lived long enough to get to the right hospital  
and that they started you on steroids.  Thanks for sharing the  
details.


You brought up the subject of maneuverability and I need help  
dealing with it.


I decided it was time to go to Washington DC - a long-time desire  
of my hubby and myself.  I always use a cane and have a wheelchair  
that I loaned out a year ago, but could get back. I quit wearing my  
AFO after two years because my feet burn and I prefer to wear shoes  
that I can take off every time I sit down (even in public.)  I  
looked pitiful sitting with my brace beside me letting my feet  
breathe.  So, I will need to use a walker and/or be pushed in a  
wheelchair in Washington and am concerned about my hubby lifting  
the chair in and out of our car.  I have looked at 3 wheeled  
walkers that would be easier to maneuver in crowds, 4 wheeled  
walkers of all kinds, a 4 wheeled that turns into a transport chair  
($400), and just a simple transport chair itself   A transport  
chair is a wheelchair for being pushed in, with (4) ten-inch wheels  
instead of the large wheels on the back for self-maneuvering.  The  
transport chair ! is about 12 lbs. lighter than my wheelchair and  
would be easier to get into my small car.  The 4 wheeled walker  
that turns into a wheelchair is $400 on-line.  A transport  
wheelchair is $200 at Walmart.  I can buy a 3-wheeled or a 4- 
wheeled walker for $50 each on Craigslist.  What would YOU take to  
Washington DC?  What will I need?

How will I feel using one for the first time?

I DON'T want to have to use any of them!  I'm ANGRY!

Patti - Michigan



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Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread Lawrence King
tAs a mother who conceived (the natural way) 6 times but only gave  
birth to 2 live infants I feel qualified to remind the greater  
community that every successful conception does not equal a child  
born even in natural circumstances, much less conceptions that occur  
in a dish.


I mourned each one of those miscarriages as a child lost even after  
my 2nd child was born and I knew in my heart that my family was  
complete and that I was done with the baby stage of my life.   My  
experience also led me to the conclusion that a life that cannot  
survive outside the mother is not entitled to citizenship rights  
equal to that of the mother until it is mature enough to survive once  
the umbilical cord is cut (or has turned 18, which ever comes first).


When I got my drivers license I asked for an organ donor sticker and  
informed my parents of my wishes in the event of my death.
As a parent I could be called upon to make a similar decision should  
a child of mine suffer a life ending tragedy...  that the purpose of  
his or her short life can take on new meaning by giving life to others.


whether you consider them blastocysts or babies, the couples who  
conceived them have already made the decision that they will never be  
born and have a meaningful purpose outside the petri dish.  I truly  
believe the parents should have the right to decide the fate  
regarding the use of their unused fertilized egg's stem cells as well.


Just as Jehovah's Witnesses refuse blood transfusions on the basis of  
their beliefs, each one of us has the right to refuse any treatment  
we are uncomfortable with.  but as for me, I donate blood (4  
gallons),  gave a sample to the bone marrow registry and if Dr. Kerr  
can use my middle aged eggs to heal others then he is welcome to them.



Mindy the Artist

The problem I have with defining life as Gunny has as not  
beginning until 28 days after conception (the joining of the male  
sperm and the female egg) is that once conception occurs the zygote  
contains all of the genetic information (DNA) necessary to become a  
child. Half of the genetic information comes from the mother’s egg  
and half from the father’s sperm. The zygot continues to divide,  
creating an inner group of cells with an outer shell. This stage is  
called a blastocyst. The inner group of cells will become the  
embryo, while the outer group of cells will become the membranes  
that nourish and protect it.


To me it makes sense the life begins at conception, as a single  
cell zygote, since at that point it contains everything to make a  
unique, individual and continues to divide on it's own. It happens  
without brain.


Embryonic stem cell come from the blastocyst stage 4–5 days post  
fertilization, at which time they consist of 50–150 cells.


Every biology reference I have found talks about the beginning of  
life being the union of the two gametes, the male and female  
reproductive cells of any species.


Jim

I suggest reading, Declaration On The Production And The Scientific  
And Therapeutic Use Of Human Embryonic Stem Cells
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_academies/acdlife/ 
documents/rc_pa_acdlife_doc_2824_cellule-staminali_en.html





- Original Message -
From: bgunny7...@aol.com
To: gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

In a message dated 3/25/2009 11:06:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net writes:
Our former president, George W. Bush, so direspectfully referred  
to on this list as dumdum, was simply against the use of our tax  
money for embryonic stem cell research in consideration for those  
opposed, on moral grounds, to the use of aborted fetuses. Stem  
cell research  was not stopped.  It has widely been proclaimed   
(even on this list) that adult stem cell research has actually  
been more successful than embryonic cell research


Not necessarily aborted fetus's. Embryonic stem cells can be grown  
in a petri dish simply by marrying a male sperm with a female egg.  
It has nothing to do with an abortion at all. Adult stem cells  
have already been programmed, which are taken from an adult human,  
to make that persons body. When taken, they are cleaned by a  
process known as plasma pheresis, then reinjected into that same  
person. An embryonic stem cell has NOT been programmed to make  
anything yet. It can be coaxed to do so where an adult cannot. An  
embryo is considered just that because it does not become a fetus  
until it is infused with blood. That process doesn't happen until  
twenty eight days after conception, and, it has no brain. Taking  
that into consideration, it is not alive. It can become so if  
implanted into a female uterus, but not until. So, in all  
actuality, it just sits in that petri dish doing absolutely  
nothing. I hope this gives you better insight as to what an  
embryonic stem cell is.


Gunny


Jim Lubin

Re: [TMIC] blood, tissue, organ donation

2009-03-25 Thread Lawrence King
I called the red cross and told them my history, listed my  
medications and asked them to investigate if I was still eligible and  
a few days later I was told I could resume donating.

Mindy the Artist

On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:58 PM, gor...@earthlink.net wrote:



Re:   I donate blood (4 gallons),  gave a sample to the bone  
marrow registry.


I am interested that you give blood and bone marrow.  I was told I  
could no longer donate because, although my TM was considered  
idiopathic (don't know what caused it), the possibility that it was  
an autoimmune factor led them to nix me as a blood donor as well as  
concerns about tissue and organ donation - with the exception of  
the corneas I believe.


I haven't explored it since then and it has been ten years.  Maybe  
things have changed.  Can you enlighten me to the discussions you  
may have had concerning allowed donation?  Thanks.

- Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

Re:   I donate blood (4 gallons),  gave a sample to the bone  
marrow registry.




Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-25 Thread Lawrence King

Jim,
I do respect your beliefs and your extensive knowledge regarding stem  
cell research.  I'm guessing you would consider treatment derived  
from adult lines but might decline so called embryonic lines.   I'm  
sure we'd all be relieved if adult stem cells turned out to be the  
best solution after all.


As for the Omnibus Appropriations act I admit my BFA degree doesn't  
help me understand the legal language used in such bills.  Could you  
interpret it in common language?



Mindy the Artist

On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Jim Lubin wrote:

I know I am in the minority in my believes, but I do not believe in  
IVF that creates embryos to begin with. If these embryos were not  
being created to then there would be no so called leftover embryos.


Are you aware that President Obama signed H.R. 1105, the “Omnibus  
Appropriations Act, 2009,” on March 11th (2 days after signing the  
executive order to lift the ban on federal funding of embryonic  
stem cells) that contained the following:


The text of Section 509 of the Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009,  
reads as follows:


SEC. 509. (a) None of the funds made available in this Act may be  
used for (1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research  
purposes; or (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are  
destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or  
death greater than that allowed for research on fetuses in utero  
under 45 CFR 46.204(b) and section 498(b) of the Public Health  
Service Act (42 U.S.C. 289g(b)). (b) For purposes of this section,  
the term ‘‘human embryo or embryos’’ includes any organism, not  
protected as a human subject under 45 CFR 46 as of the date of the  
enactment of this Act, that is derived by fertilization,  
parthenogenesis, cloning, or any other means from one or more human  
gametes or human diploid cells.


Guess he should have READ the “Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009  
before signing it into law...


I followed the link on http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ 
FY2009OmnibusAppropriationsActPu blicReview/

to see if it was true, sure enough, it's in there

http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/2009_Con_Bill_DivF.pdf

If you want to read it yourself, pg 128, lines 9 - 24. there are 2  
pages inserted so it is page 130 of the pdf.



At 05:25 PM 3/25/2009, Lawrence King wrote:
whether you consider them blastocysts or babies, the couples who  
conceived them have already made the decision that they will never  
be born and have a meaningful purpose outside the petri dish.  I  
truly believe the parents should have the right to decide the  
fate regarding the use of their unused fertilized egg's stem cells  
as well.



Jim Lubin
jlu...@eskimo.com
http://makoa.org/jim
disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org








Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

2009-03-01 Thread Lawrence King
 -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

Thanks Linda,  and you too Jill for bringing up the subject!

I don't post very often but I've been following the group off and  
on for more than a year and a half and the advice I've gotten  from  
everyone about meds. has literally saved my life.  I never lost  
mobility, can still skip and run if I have to.  My balance sucks  
and I use a cane from time to time but no-one could see my pain or  
have any Idea what I was (and still am) going through!  sometime I  
would corner friends and acquaintances and pour out my story.  I  
would even take their hand and tip my head down in hopes that the  
shock would jump from my hand to theirs so that they would feel a  
bit of what I was going through and know that I wasn't some flake  
case.


after 6 months of this pain I was ready to jump off a cliff like  
the unfortunate herd of pigs who receive the legion of demons Jesus  
encounters possessing  the mad man outside of the city of  
Gadarenes.  But I did not want to hurt my husband and children.   
This Sunday is my 2 year anniversary of TM and I don't want to jump  
off a cliff anymore but I still trying to come to terms with it  
all,  I've come a long way but my husband is still a bit baffled by  
the changes in me.  he has reaffirmed his commitment to me and our  
marriage of 22 years but he has a long way to go  when it comes to  
understanding the remaining me and the new parts that have been  
shaped by this invisible pain.


I figure that medical researchers have until my 8 year old turns 22  
to come up with effective central pain syndrome treatment or  
cure... and yes Icontinue to pray for it to go away.  the  
shocks don't bother me as much as the 24/7 buzz...


I hope we all find it gone someday!


Mindy the Artist

On Feb 27, 2009, at 9:31 PM, L T CHERPESKI wrote:

I have that too, Mindy - not 24/7 though.  My lesions are high up  
like yours, C4,5  6 and I get the shocks down both arms and hands,  
and when I bend my head I get them from the right side of my neck  
up the right side only of my head. That's a real special one.


Jill, I don't have MS either.  I think with these crazy diseases  
there are many symptoms that are similar.  Does that ever go  
away???  That would be nice, but I've had TM almost 7 years now and  
I still have these symptoms.  I'm sure many people do not have them  
anymore - and I hope yours go away!


Linda - Eagle, ID


 Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

I have L'hermettes sign on top of the sensation that I have my  
finger stuck in a light socket 24/7.  Imagine that, electrocution  
with electric bursts... but I don't have MS.



Mindy the Artist
TM March 1, 2007
C4-C5

On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Jill Z wrote:

I know some of us TMr's turned into MSr's and I was just wondering  
have any of you experienced that Lhermette's sign when you bend  
your neck forward and get electric down your legs?  And does that  
ever go away???

Thanks,
Jill in Chicago
TM '04
MS '09 :(







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[TMIC] anniversary

2009-03-01 Thread Lawrence King

today is my 2 year anniversary of contracting TM.


Mindy the Artist



Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

2009-02-28 Thread Lawrence King

Hi Cindy,

I'm in S. E. Ohio, and thanks for the suggestion-  I will think about  
it.  His hangups about sick people are rather complex, his Father  
just died 2 months ago and he was a military eye doctor who had a  
hero complex and a drinking problem.   He established eye clinics,  
saved the vision of the poor and trained  doctors in Ethiopia, Egypt,  
India , Vietnam, Bangladesh  and last fall he escaped out the back  
door of a hospital in Afghanistan while the front entrance and  
windows were being shot out by insurgents... and he was 80 years old  
at the time.  He also wrecked 2 marriages and traumatized 5 children  
with his drinking.


So... my husband has a lot on his own plate right now and needs my  
love, patience, and support right now as much as I need his.  I just  
wish I could have a life coach right now,  I am physically capable of  
doing the things I did before but my mind can't seem to organize my  
day in a productive way. that's what my husband is having trouble  
understanding.



Mindy the Artist

On Feb 28, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Cindy McLeroy wrote:

Mindy, I forget where you are from, but if you could find a TM or  
maybe even a MS support group and take your husband with you, he  
might have some hah ha moments.  I run a support group in So CA and  
so many people bring someone close to them that doesn't quite get  
it.  When they hear others describe the things the TM'er  has  
described it is as if a light goes off and a new kind of  
sensitivity sets in.


Let me know where you are from and maybe I can help you find a  
group near by.


Take care,
Cindy McLeroy
- Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

Thanks Linda,  and you too Jill for bringing up the subject!

I don't post very often but I've been following the group off and  
on for more than a year and a half and the advice I've gotten  from  
everyone about meds. has literally saved my life.  I never lost  
mobility, can still skip and run if I have to.  My balance sucks  
and I use a cane from time to time but no-one could see my pain or  
have any Idea what I was (and still am) going through!  sometime I  
would corner friends and acquaintances and pour out my story.  I  
would even take their hand and tip my head down in hopes that the  
shock would jump from my hand to theirs so that they would feel a  
bit of what I was going through and know that I wasn't some flake  
case.


after 6 months of this pain I was ready to jump off a cliff like  
the unfortunate herd of pigs who receive the legion of demons Jesus  
encounters possessing  the mad man outside of the city of  
Gadarenes.  But I did not want to hurt my husband and children.   
This Sunday is my 2 year anniversary of TM and I don't want to jump  
off a cliff anymore but I still trying to come to terms with it  
all,  I've come a long way but my husband is still a bit baffled by  
the changes in me.  he has reaffirmed his commitment to me and our  
marriage of 22 years but he has a long way to go  when it comes to  
understanding the remaining me and the new parts that have been  
shaped by this invisible pain.


I figure that medical researchers have until my 8 year old turns 22  
to come up with effective central pain syndrome treatment or  
cure... and yes Icontinue to pray for it to go away.  the  
shocks don't bother me as much as the 24/7 buzz...


I hope we all find it gone someday!


Mindy the Artist

On Feb 27, 2009, at 9:31 PM, L T CHERPESKI wrote:

I have that too, Mindy - not 24/7 though.  My lesions are high up  
like yours, C4,5  6 and I get the shocks down both arms and  
hands, and when I bend my head I get them from the right side of  
my neck up the right side only of my head. That's a real special one.


Jill, I don't have MS either.  I think with these crazy diseases  
there are many symptoms that are similar.  Does that ever go  
away???  That would be nice, but I've had TM almost 7 years now  
and I still have these symptoms.  I'm sure many people do not have  
them anymore - and I hope yours go away!


Linda - Eagle, ID


 Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

I have L'hermettes sign on top of the sensation that I have my  
finger stuck in a light socket 24/7.  Imagine that, electrocution  
with electric bursts... but I don't have MS.



Mindy the Artist
TM March 1, 2007
C4-C5

On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Jill Z wrote:

I know some of us TMr's turned into MSr's and I was just  
wondering have any of you experienced that Lhermette's sign  
when you bend your neck forward and get electric down your legs?   
And does that ever go away???

Thanks,
Jill in Chicago
TM '04
MS '09 :(











Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

2009-02-28 Thread Lawrence King

Thanks Jan,

I don't dump my medical history on the unsuspecting anymore either.   
my 14 year old daughter can read me but she's still at that stage  
where she hates doing chores  and hasn't figured how picking up or  
doing a few dishes could help mom out on bad days and relieve some of  
the stress disorganization has on the whole family.


 Being an introvert I disappear from the group from time to time,   
this level of communication is hard for me to maintain but I know  
that you all are here for me as my physical mental and spiritual  
issues need to be addressed.


I just wish we would adopt an AA or Al-Anon  12 step approach to  
talking about our religious or spiritual beliefs.  We all have souls  
whether we are fundamentalists or atheists and the bickering that  
breaks out from time to time over semantics and drives away valuable  
contributers is a real bummer!  In Al-Anon I've seen groups that  
included christians, a hindu and several non- believers help each  
other and talk about the issues of the soul without offending each  
other.  we should be able to do that to as we cannot truly help each  
other in all aspects of healing and coping with this disease unless  
we address all three:  physical, mental and spiritual.


just my thoughts on the matter.

On Feb 28, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Jan Hargrove wrote:

Mindy the Artist


Mindy et al,

The only people who understand how we feel or what we are dealing  
with, are those who have what we have!!
I have a wonderful caretaker in my hubby, and he comes close to  
understanding but there is no way to let him know the constant pain  
with which I deal daily!!!


That said, I don't try to tell people what's going on with my  
bodythey don't understand, never will, so I
just go about life as if everything is great! and only tell what  
kind of day I'm having if they ask. Course, I've family and some  
close friends who can read how I'm dealing on any given day, and  
they treat me accordingly

and don't ask!

Being one of the walking, having progressed from being a complete  
to the t8, folks look at me and think I'm well now and why burst  
their bubble, course there are times when I can't do and then I  
stay home.


I would never have asked to spend the last 12 years and 10 months  
with tm, but I have and I don't think that

dwelling on it serves any purpose, I never asked why
me because who can explain God's plan for me.

Just know that we know where you're coming from and if you need to  
scream to release some pain or frustration, scream at us, we've all  
been there!!  As for answers, we can only answer those questions  
that we have dealt with
personally, but ask and someone will recognize your symptoms and  
give you their best answer.


Hugs.
janh







Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

2009-02-27 Thread Lawrence King

Thanks Linda,  and you too Jill for bringing up the subject!

I don't post very often but I've been following the group off and on  
for more than a year and a half and the advice I've gotten  from  
everyone about meds. has literally saved my life.  I never lost  
mobility, can still skip and run if I have to.  My balance sucks and  
I use a cane from time to time but no-one could see my pain or have  
any Idea what I was (and still am) going through!  sometime I would  
corner friends and acquaintances and pour out my story.  I would even  
take their hand and tip my head down in hopes that the shock would  
jump from my hand to theirs so that they would feel a bit of what I  
was going through and know that I wasn't some flake case.


after 6 months of this pain I was ready to jump off a cliff like the  
unfortunate herd of pigs who receive the legion of demons Jesus  
encounters possessing  the mad man outside of the city of Gadarenes.   
But I did not want to hurt my husband and children.  This Sunday is  
my 2 year anniversary of TM and I don't want to jump off a cliff  
anymore but I still trying to come to terms with it all,  I've come a  
long way but my husband is still a bit baffled by the changes in me.   
he has reaffirmed his commitment to me and our marriage of 22 years  
but he has a long way to go  when it comes to understanding the  
remaining me and the new parts that have been shaped by this  
invisible pain.


I figure that medical researchers have until my 8 year old turns 22  
to come up with effective central pain syndrome treatment or cure...  
and yes I continue to pray for it to go away.  the shocks don't  
bother me as much as the 24/7 buzz...


I hope we all find it gone someday!


Mindy the Artist

On Feb 27, 2009, at 9:31 PM, L T CHERPESKI wrote:

I have that too, Mindy - not 24/7 though.  My lesions are high up  
like yours, C4,5  6 and I get the shocks down both arms and hands,  
and when I bend my head I get them from the right side of my neck  
up the right side only of my head. That's a real special one.


Jill, I don't have MS either.  I think with these crazy diseases  
there are many symptoms that are similar.  Does that ever go  
away???  That would be nice, but I've had TM almost 7 years now and  
I still have these symptoms.  I'm sure many people do not have them  
anymore - and I hope yours go away!


Linda - Eagle, ID


 Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

I have L'hermettes sign on top of the sensation that I have my  
finger stuck in a light socket 24/7.  Imagine that, electrocution  
with electric bursts... but I don't have MS.



Mindy the Artist
TM March 1, 2007
C4-C5

On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Jill Z wrote:

I know some of us TMr's turned into MSr's and I was just wondering  
have any of you experienced that Lhermette's sign when you bend  
your neck forward and get electric down your legs?  And does that  
ever go away???

Thanks,
Jill in Chicago
TM '04
MS '09 :(








Re: [TMIC] For you MSr's

2009-02-26 Thread Lawrence King
I have L'hermettes sign on top of the sensation that I have my finger  
stuck in a light socket 24/7.  Imagine that, electrocution with  
electric bursts... but I don't have MS.



Mindy the Artist
TM March 1, 2007
C4-C5

On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Jill Z wrote:

I know some of us TMr's turned into MSr's and I was just wondering  
have any of you experienced that Lhermette's sign when you bend  
your neck forward and get electric down your legs?  And does that  
ever go away???

Thanks,
Jill in Chicago
TM '04
MS '09 :(





Re: [TMIC] Lyrica

2009-01-25 Thread Lawrence King
I never tried Neurontin,  opting for lyrica first and yes I had a  
headache for 4-5 days and then it subsided, balance was also messed  
up for a while. really took 2 weeks for the full benefit and the  
addition of Amantadine to counter the sleepiness but in combination  
with cymbalta gave me my life back!



Mindy the Artist

On Jan 25, 2009, at 7:44 AM, Regina Rummel wrote:

My neuro now tells me that my symptoms are caused by much more than  
TM.  Namely vasculatis.  She put me on Lyrica and I woke up this AM  
with a pretty nasty headache.  Should I put up with this and it  
will pass?  What were your problems or successes with Lyrica?

R




Re: [TMIC] OT smiles

2009-01-24 Thread Lawrence King

Cute it's not just cute! it made my day!

Mindy the Artist

On Jan 24, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Todd Tarno wrote:


This is a 16 mins movie, that is cute.

http://budurl. com/SmilesYouTub e

--- On Thu, 1/22/09, TODD TARNO toddnbi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
From: TODD TARNO toddnbi...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Fwd: Fw: smiles
To: Duane Aubert dauber...@hotmail.com, Joyce Carson  
jycath...@yahoo.com, Ira Duval idu...@austin.rr.com, David  
Graham grahamcracker1...@yahoo.com, Ricky Hayes  
rhayes...@yahoo.com, Debbie Jones jonesdebbi...@yahoo.com,  
Willy  Angel Kelly zacharyb...@sbcglobal.net, Marleen  
Kennison mkenni2...@aol.com, Kristi Mohler  
kristi2...@hotmail.com

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 3:38 PM

http://budurl. com/SmilesYouTub e

--- On Wed, 1/21/09, April Sadler aprilli...@gmail.com wrote:
From: April Sadler aprilli...@gmail.com
Subject: Fwd: Fw: smiles
To: Andra Goodman andra.good...@gmail.com, Patrick Healy  
tricky...@gmail.com, tat...@aol.com tat...@aol.com, Angel  
Parker thedalscw...@hotmail.com, Kate Gahan  
gahanor...@gmail.com, kimberly  billy caylor...@hotmail.com,  
janelle ligarde schulze nellieschu...@gmail.com, Jeff  
Mirabelle je...@elitefinancinggroup.com, Jody Kane  
jodywi...@yahoo.com, judybeth graceb...@aol.com, JENNIFER  
NICHOLS nichols...@sbcglobal.net, gia gulino  
giagul...@hotmail.com, CJ Schimmels shylos...@gmail.com,  
Daymon Sadler laughd...@aol.com, lena sacco  
mrslsa...@yahoo.com, sharon gallagher sh...@earthlink.net,  
stanley pearson sp...@hotmail.com, tina cisneros  
splite...@hotmail.com, TODD TARNO toddnbi...@sbcglobal.net,  
Trevor Hickle tre...@folkadelic.com, gwendyliongr...@aol.com,  
robin hunter c_robinh...@yahoo.com, celeste sadler  
csadler...@aol.com, Carrie Williams  
carriewilliams...@yahoo.com, Francine Franklin  
frans...@gmail.com, Eric Franklin franklin.e...@gmail.com,  
Kevin Schell ksch...@yahoo.com, lu...@onedragon.com, Terry  
Lewis gotmyb...@gmail.com

Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 6:49 AM

good morning everyone this video is long but worth every minute

much love
April






http://budurl. com/SmilesYouTub e








Re: [TMIC] OT... Been there, saw the potties!

2009-01-18 Thread Lawrence King
I just returned from the mall,  Crawled under the stage used in  
yesterdays concert to visit the Lincoln Memorial a few days ago after  
seeing my father in law buried at Arlington National Cemetery.  I am  
back home in Ohio but I almost wish we could have stayed.  I have  
been visiting the D.C. area for 25 years and this is the first time I  
recall the residents polite, helpful and friendly.  I am walking  
wounded and 5 days of viewings, funeral, and then site seeing in  
frigid temperatures proved to me what I am still made of inspite of  
CPS from the chest down.


And Frank,  I'm guessing folks will be in and out in 2 minutes... who  
wants to pee in a refrigerator!!


Mindy
On Jan 14, 2009, at 4:54 PM, fr...@franksheldon.com wrote:


Dear Gang,

Well, As you know, I received my invitation from the Inaugural  
Committee a while ago, then I learned about the numbers:


Approx.. 2,000,000 people

Approx.. 5,000 porta potties

Therefore: 400 people to one potty

The average visitation to a potty takes 4 minutes

Therefore: 1600 minutes for everyone to go once

So 1600 minutes divided by 60 minutes in an hour:  26.6 hours for  
everyone to visit once.


I don't think I'm going

Frank





Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2009 #3

2009-01-04 Thread Lawrence King
My Deepest sympathies Rick,  I also lost a family member- my father- 
in-law December 20th.


Mindy the Artist
On Jan 4, 2009, at 12:46 AM, ashfo...@att.net wrote:




Dear Friends, This is Rick, I hope you all a Happy New Year,sad to  
say and believe but I lost my oldest son to a car wreck on new  
years eve. I hope you will remember him in your prayers tonight  
Besides us he left two young daughters, Stephine an Shelby His name  
is Jeffery Lynn Hughey. Age 45 What a waist. Thank You Rick
-- Original message from tmic-digest- 
requ...@eskimo.com: --


Happy Birthday to all you January kids.  I wish the best for all of  
you.


Patti in Wisconsin

From: jharpe...@aol.com [mailto:jharpe...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 11:42 PM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [TMIC] January birthdays

Happy Birthday to the January kids! Happy Birthday and Happy New Year!

Please send any additions or corrections to tmic-l...@eskimo.com.

1- 7 Lauren (sugal...@adelphia.net)

1/8 Nancy Williams   (willj...@aol.com)

1-8 Sandi (sam...@fidmail.com)

1/9 Julienne (julesin...@aol.com)

1/13 Debi (brade...@hotmail.com)

1-17 Jenna Stentz (jkste...@yahoo.com )

1/20 Kay Cole (k...@cole.gen.nz)

1-21 Blaine Frye (xring...@mwt.net)

1/21 Carol Easterday snow121...@hotmail.com

1/23 Patti Dotson (ll...@aol.com)

1-27 Pat S. (w2sm...@aol.com)

1-28 Holly (r...@aol.com)

1-28 Sally (thenavigato...@aol.com)

1/30 Cora (ceckenb...@wildblue.net)


New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines.





Re: [TMIC] Hello i need your urgent assistance..

2008-12-05 Thread Lawrence King
Like any of us with our medical and prescription costs have roughly  
$2000 to spare! (throw away!!)

Mindy the Artist

On Dec 5, 2008, at 3:18 PM, robert hennessy wrote:


Hello,
Sorry I didn't inform you about my traveling to UK for a program,  
am presently in London and i am stranded here because i misplaced  
my wallet on my way to the hotel where my money and other valuable  
things were kept.I will like
you to assist me with a soft loan urgently with the sum of 1,850 GB  
Pounds to sort-out my hotel bills and get myself back home. I will  
appreciate whatever you can afford, i will pay back as soon as i  
return.So please use the details below to transfer the money to me  
through Western Union money transfer because i was told that is the  
only way i could be able to get it fast and leave. This is the  
detail below



Name : Robert Hennessy
Address:Kenilworth Road,
Hampton-in-Arden Solihull,
West Midlands
B92 0LW
Country :England
Test Question :Year of birth?
Answer : 1981
Amount Sent: ?


kindly help me to make the transfer as soon as you receive this  
email and once you have it sent, send me the money transfer control  
number with details used in sending it. Also i have my passport to  
prove my identity at Western union here when receiving the money.



Hope to hear from you soon.
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account now.




Re: [TMIC] House

2008-12-03 Thread Lawrence King

Yes Grace,
you're our own celebrity!  we'll keep your 15 minutes of fame going  
for quite a while.  Hope you're doing better!



Mindy the Artist

On Dec 3, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Grace M. wrote:


Hi Patti,

Marieke and Heather are right.  That was me on the Discovery  
Channel.  Recurrent LETM (Longitudinal Extensive Transverse  
Myelitis) is one of the symptoms of Devic's.  It's pretty wicked.


Gracie




Re: [TMIC] Too Cold

2008-11-29 Thread Lawrence King
I don't have the temp. control issue but I wonder if taking capsaicin  
capsules might help those who do warm up from the inside I understand  
you need to build up your dosage if you try it.



Mindy the Artist

On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Jan Hargrove wrote:



Jude,

Temperature control is the only thing that my doc said would not  
return!...
that said, I have found that silk underwear is the best thing to  
help.Silk
is nice to your skin and light weight, so you need fewer heavy  
blankets!!


I get my silks from Winter Silks, which has a 20% off sale right  
now.  The

web site is:   www.wintersilks.com

Hope this helps!

Hugs,

janh in OK

--- On Sat, 11/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


Hi All,

Is anyone else out there suffering from that bone-chilling cold  
that settles deeply into your bones and nothing you do helps to  
warm you up?


I began to get cold earlier in the evening and have had Dave put  
mega blankets on me until they are so heavy I can barely lift  
them.  I now have a queen sized silk blanket doubled on top of all  
of my other covers on my small hospital bed.


This kind of cold came with the Transverse Myelitis and I don't  
believe it will ever go away.  At least there is no kind of  
medication to warm me up that I know of.  Does anyone out there  
have a clue?


I know that some of you have also felt this chilling cold.  What do  
you do to combat it?  It is ridiculous the lengths I go to in order  
to be able to sleep, but am so uncomfortable that I can't.


At least I am tired enough to give it a go...
Jude




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Re: [TMIC] Devics NMO Relapse.

2008-11-26 Thread Lawrence King

Grace,

my thoughts and prayers are with you.  I have witnessed how you have  
been instrumental in helping others in their affliction and wish the  
same could happen for you.  you are one of my hero's on this list!


Mindy the Artist

On Nov 26, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Grace M. wrote:

Sorry for being out of touch, but have relapsed.  It is my vision  
this time.  We did an emergency chemo and three days of IV  
SoluMedrol and I'll be repeating chemo on Devcember 8th.  My vision  
has not improved much, and I am very disheartened.


I just had an MRI of the cord, brainstem and brain, about three  
months ago and everything was stable---so, this really hit me out  
of the blue.


Why couldn't it have been simple MS?  Why this?   We have recently  
had several deaths among our  Devic's Advocacy members and have  
several more that are in terrible shape.  My heart just can't cope  
with it anymore.  I HATE this.


Grace






[TMIC] OHIO

2008-10-29 Thread Lawrence King
3 things I have learned never to discuss with other people:   
politics, religion, and the great pumpkin Linus


 I'm in Athens, Ohio and I've been told there is another TM survivor  
in town but my PT wouldn't give me his contact info and I don't know  
if she ever gave him mine.  I was told he experienced nearly full  
recovery so I imagine he may not have felt it important to talk to me.


Mindy the Artist

On Oct 28, 2008, at 6:54 PM, kevin weilacher wrote:


Hi Ella in Ohio...may I ask where in Ohio...?
My name is Kevin and I'm in Canton, Ohio.
Hi neighbor

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:24:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Test - can't seem to get on

I got it okay here

Ella in Ohio



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Re: [TMIC] OHIO

2008-10-29 Thread Lawrence King
The first time I subscribed was in July 4, 2007  I seem to keep  
dropping off the list, I can post for a while and then I get  
refused.  I subscribed again 4 days ago and had trouble posting last  
night.  Am I missing something here?

On Oct 29, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Deborah Nord Capen wrote:


Hello Lawrence,
Have you joined the TMA?  If you do so, you will receive the  
Membership Directory and find people in your area.  There is one  
member in Canton, Ohio.  Also, the Ohio TMA support group is very  
active and holds many periodic support group meetings.  Once you  
are signed up, the support group leader will contact you and give  
you the information.


Or, you can go to the website at www.myelitis.org and look up  
support groups, and find the contact name in the Ohio support group  
link.


Hope this helps.

Take care,
Debbie

- Original Message -
From: Lawrence King
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:22 AM
Subject: [TMIC] OHIO

3 things I have learned never to discuss with other people:   
politics, religion, and the great pumpkin Linus


 I'm in Athens, Ohio and I've been told there is another TM  
survivor in town but my PT wouldn't give me his contact info and I  
don't know if she ever gave him mine.  I was told he experienced  
nearly full recovery so I imagine he may not have felt it important  
to talk to me.


Mindy the Artist

On Oct 28, 2008, at 6:54 PM, kevin weilacher wrote:


Hi Ella in Ohio...may I ask where in Ohio...?
My name is Kevin and I'm in Canton, Ohio.
Hi neighbor

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:24:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Test - can't seem to get on

I got it okay here

Ella in Ohio



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Re: [TMIC] Guidelines

2008-10-24 Thread Lawrence King
The guidelines need to include political messages  We are one group  
united by our common factor TM.  but when a  member spouts political  
rhetoric we are divided into the right and the left.  There are tons  
of groups devoted to this type of political banter but only  one for  
TM sufferers!  I happen to be very politically active (even  
volunteering for my party) but I respect the rights of my fellow TM  
family members to have their Own Opinion politically,  I respect that  
they were not born yesterday,  have a lifetime of experiences shaping  
their views and have a sovereign right to their opinions!   keep  
politics out of this one please!


Mindy the Artist
On Oct 24, 2008, at 8:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just a reminder of the TMIC Guidelines on the TMIC site at http:// 
www.myelitis.org/tmic/#guidelines:


Please keep messages plain text.
Do not post personal information that you don't want the world  
knowing. The message archive is searchable by anyone with Internet  
access.

Please do not use excessive quoting when replying to a message.
Please do not use graphics in messages.
Please do not forward or post long jokes or fictional stories.
Please do not forward virus warning unless you have verified it to  
be true and not a hoax. Check these sites:


In a message dated 10/24/2008 7:59:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Subject: Fw: New Company Policy





Notice to All Employees

As of November 5, 2008, when President Obama is officially elected  
into office, our company will instill a few new policies which are  
in keeping with his new, inspiring issues of change and fairness:


1. All salespeople will be pooling their sales and bonuses into  
a common pool that will be divided equally between all of you.   
This will serve to give those of you who are underachieving a fair  
shake.


2. All low level workers will be pooling their wages, including  
overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally amongst  
yourselves.  This will help those who are too busy for overtime  
to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time and can  
work extra hours.


3. All top management will now be referred to as the  
government.  We will not participate in this pool ing experience  
because the law doesn't apply to us.


4. The government will give eloquent speeches to all  
employees every week, encouraging it's workers to continue to work  
hard for the good of all.=E 2


5. The employees will be thrilled with these new policies  
because it's good to spread the wealth.  Those of you who have  
underachieved will finally get an opportunity; those of you who  
have worked hard and had success will feel more patriotic.


6.  The last few people who were hired should clean out their  
desks.  Don't feel bad, though, because President Obama will give  
you free healthcare, free handouts, free oil for heating your home,  
free food stamps, and he'll let you stay in your home for as long  
as you want even if you can't pay your mortgage.  If you appeal  
directly to our democratic congress, you might even get a free flat  
screen TV and a coupon for free haircuts (shouldn't all Americans  
be entitled to nice looking hair?) !!!


If for any reason you are not happy with the new policies, you may  
want to rethink your vote on  November 4th.








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Re: [TMIC] Guidelines

2008-10-24 Thread Lawrence King
I would have to disagree.  I have yet to see a political post that  
was strictly informational and documentable that compared without  
bias, each candidates stand on TM and its survivors.  (The issue of  
abortion is not going to heal my spinal cord!)


The only political posts I want to see here are ones regarding health  
based legislation which will directly help TM survivors that I can  
then encourage my Congressmen, Senators and president to support!


Mindy the Artist

On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I would agree that it is not of benefit for those looking for  
advice, support, etc. from fellow TM'ers to hear one-sided  
advertisements or promotional materials from supporters of  
political candidates.


However, keep in mind that it is of benefit to be informed of such  
a candidate who, although physically fit himself (as stated today  
by Frank) is, from my understanding, a documented pro-abortionist  
whose position reveals a lack of sympathy for the weak in which  
category we with TM could be placed.  In fact, this may not turn  
out to be  only a lack of sympathy by rather a pro-active stance  
which could and most likely would lead to an attitude which  
considers the elderly or sickly a detriment to the economy or  
society in general.


Therefore, the very nature of this list should call for warnings,  
or at least information, about certain ones seeking office who will  
have an influence on our well-being as pertaining to TM.


Again, though, I agree we should not have to listen to (read) other  
general political opinions, warnings, etc, when our main attention  
should be on TM and closely related topics.


Gary in Michigan
- Original Message -
From: kevin weilacher
To: Lawrence King ; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Guidelines

How eloquently put..  I totally agree...this IS NOT the proper  
forum for political views.


From: Lawrence King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lawrence King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:16:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Guidelines

The guidelines need to include political messages  We are one  
group united by our common factor TM.  but when a  member spouts  
political rhetoric we are divided into the right and the left.   
There are tons of groups devoted to this type of political banter  
but only  one for TM sufferers!  I happen to be very politically  
active (even volunteering for my party) but I respect the rights of  
my fellow TM family members to have their Own Opinion politically,   
I respect that they were not born yesterday,  have a lifetime of  
experiences shaping their views and have a sovereign right to their  
opinions!   keep politics out of this one please!


Mindy the Artist
On Oct 24, 2008, at 8:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just a reminder of the TMIC Guidelines on the TMIC site at http:// 
www.myelitis.org/tmic/#guidelines:


Please keep messages plain text. Do not post personal information  
that you don't want the world knowing. The message archive is  
searchable by anyone with Internet access. Please do not use  
excessive quoting when replying to a message. Please do not use  
graphics in messages. Please do not forward or post long jokes or  
fictional stories. Please do not forward virus warning unless you  
have verified it to be true and not a hoax. Check these sites:


In a message dated 10/24/2008 7:59:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Subject: Fw: New Company Policy



Notice to All Employees

As of November 5, 2008, when President Obama is officially elected  
into office, our company will instill a few new policies which are  
in keeping with his new, inspiring issues of change and fairness:


1. All salespeople will be pooling their sales and bonuses  
into a common pool that will be divided equally between all of  
you.  This will serve to give those of you who are underachieving  
a fair shake.


2. All low level workers will be pooling their wages,  
including overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally  
amongst yourselves.  This will help those who are too busy for  
overtime to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time  
and can work extra hours.


3. All top management will now be referred to as the  
government.  We will not participate in this pool ing  
experience because the law doesn't apply to us.


4. The government will give eloquent speeches to all  
employees every week, encouraging it's workers to continue to work  
hard for the good of all.=E 2


5. The employees will be thrilled with these new policies  
because it's good to spread the wealth.  Those of you who have  
underachieved will finally get an opportunity; those of you who  
have worked hard and had success will feel more patriotic.


6.  The last few people who were hired should clean out their  
desks.  Don't feel bad

[TMIC] Testing 123

2008-09-08 Thread Lawrence King

testing  123,
is the group getting this?  I am having trouble posting.


Mindy the Artist



Re: [TMIC] Questions

2008-04-19 Thread Lawrence King


1. yes. 40 years ago, got TM 1 year ago
2. no
3. no
But my Husband had chicken Pox and shingles and a second flare-up of 
shingles around my one year TM anniversary,  but I suppose none of that 
counts!

Mindy the Artist
On Apr 19, 2008, at 1:31 PM, jrushton wrote:


Hi, everyone (again!)
 
I have three questions for those who would be willing to respond:
 
1)  Did you ever have chicken pox?
 
2)  Did you ever suffer from shingles?
 
3)  Did you have a flare-up of shingles prior to your being stricken 
with TM?

 
These are a few of the theories with TM and I'm just curious to see if 
any of 'us' have experienced any or all of these.

 
Jeanne in Dayton
 
 


Re: [TMIC] Need a little help (all)

2008-04-09 Thread Lawrence King

Welcome back Jude!

Our pastor Invites anyone with prayer concerns to kneel at the prayer 
rail during the pastoral and Lords prayer every Sunday.  I have always 
been shy about doing this but I have missed your words of wisdom and 
out of concern for your treatment and well being I decided to go to the 
altar and pray for you every sunday until there was a dramatic change 
in your situation.  While kneeling at the rail this past sunday I 
realized that I should be praying for your caretakers that they might 
have a change of heart.  BOY,  talk about answered prayer!


Our God is an awesome God!
Mindy the Artist

On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:03 PM, judith hoops wrote:


The higher the lesion, the more dysfunction in the body.

 

Then one needs to factor in whether one is an incomplete or complete 
para.


 

Ask your Doctor to explain.  Best of Love, Peace and Prayers,

 

Jude

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From: Heather  Pieter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [TMIC] Need a little help

Robert,
 
Not sure if higher is better or worse.  It just tells what parts of 
the body are affected.  I think it also depends on how much initial 
damage is done by the inflammation as to how you are affected by the 
residual effects. 

 
My lesion was at T8 - T10.  I am one of the walking wounded.  Usually 
walk unaided in house but use cane if I am tired or under the 
weather.  Use cane or walker outside of home.  Wheelchair once in a 
while.

 
Heather in Calgary

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Subject: [TMIC] Need a little help



Just rec'd results of MRI (thorasic) and they show the lesions in the 
T8-T12 region. Even though I have had this condtion for more than 10 
years I have never known my T score..is a higher # on the T scale 
better or worse?



Thx

Rob in New Jersey



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Re: [TMIC] URINARY TRACT INFECTIONS SPREAD FROM AN UNLIKELY SOURCE for all)

2008-04-07 Thread Lawrence King
You can find the very same tests your doctor uses at your local drug  
store.  they are on the shelf and not behind the counter.

Mindy the ArtistOn Apr 7, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Trudy OGILVIE wrote:



I was wondering if anyone knows of a Home kit that could tell you if  
you have a UTI. Since the only feeling I have in that area is pain I  
cannot tell if I have an infection. On my last yearly checkup it was  
discovered that I did had an infection. I don't want to have to make  
an appointment then go take the test but I would like to check every  
few months if I have an infection.

Thanks!
And thank you for the info on the dogs! We foster dogs so I will now  
make sure I wash EVERY time they come in from the outside.

Trudy


Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its
troubles;
It empties today of its strengths.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:26:51 -0400
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [TMIC] URINARY TRACT INFECTIONS SPREAD FROM AN UNLIKELY  
SOURCE


UTI's ~

A new study has found that you could be exposed to E. coli viruses in  
the home that are carried by your pet.


Minneapolis researchers have discovered that it's extremely common  
for humans and pets to share the E. coli that causes urinary tract  
infections.


So, the next time you give ol' Rover a well-deserved pat on the head,  
you would do well to remember that cleanliness is next to  
healthiness. As always, the best way to avoid sickness and viruses of  
all sorts is to regularly wash your hands. You don't need anti-  
bacterial wipes or any other germ fighters – just simple warm soap  
and water.


Sure, your dog is part of the family, and of course he's cute and  
cuddly – but he's also an animal who's probably rooting about in the  
yard and exposing himself to all kinds of things. So it's best to  
wash your hands as often as possible whenever you've touched your  
pet, and be sure that you keep your house clean as well.






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Re: [TMIC] URINARY TRACT INFECTIONS SPREAD FROM AN UNLIKELY SOURCE for all)

2008-04-07 Thread Lawrence King
I should say the test  is called AZO test strips and they sell in a box  
of 3 for around $10.   Also I'm not usually into herbal cures but  
Bearberry, also known as Uva Ursi really works for mild cases.  2  
capsules 3 x a day for 4 to 7 days and then stop as this should not be  
used for longer than a week and you want to keep urine alkaline rather  
than acidic so avoid cranberry, citrus and vitamin C supplements during  
treatment

Mindy King
www.chairweaver.com
(740) 662-2001
On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Lawrence King wrote:

You can find the very same tests your doctor uses at your local drug  
store.  they are on the shelf and not behind the counter.

Mindy the ArtistOn Apr 7, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Trudy OGILVIE wrote:



I was wondering if anyone knows of a Home kit that could tell you if  
you have a UTI. Since the only feeling I have in that area is pain I  
cannot tell if I have an infection. On my last yearly checkup it was  
discovered that I did had an infection. I don't want to have to make  
an appointment then go take the test but I would like to check every  
few months if I have an infection.

Thanks!
And thank you for the info on the dogs! We foster dogs so I will now  
make sure I wash EVERY time they come in from the outside.

Trudy


Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its
troubles;
It empties today of its strengths.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:26:51 -0400
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [TMIC] URINARY TRACT INFECTIONS SPREAD FROM AN UNLIKELY  
SOURCE


UTI's ~

A new study has found that you could be exposed to E. coli viruses  
in the home that are carried by your pet.


Minneapolis researchers have discovered that it's extremely common  
for humans and pets to share the E. coli that causes urinary tract  
infections.


So, the next time you give ol' Rover a well-deserved pat on the  
head, you would do well to remember that cleanliness is next to  
healthiness. As always, the best way to avoid sickness and viruses  
of all sorts is to regularly wash your hands. You don't need anti-  
bacterial wipes or any other germ fighters – just simple warm soap  
and water.


Sure, your dog is part of the family, and of course he's cute and  
cuddly – but he's also an animal who's probably rooting about in the  
yard and exposing himself to all kinds of things. So it's best to  
wash your hands as often as possible whenever you've touched your  
pet, and be sure that you keep your house clean as well.






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Re: [TMIC] This Is a Test (for all)

2008-03-31 Thread Lawrence King
welcome back Naomi!  I have just survived my one year TM anniversary.  
I am also C4-C5 but my damage is only central neuropathy syndrome.  
Everything still works but I feel as though I am being electrocuted 
from the chest down 24/7  what a strange disease this is!!!


Mindy the artist
On Mar 31, 2008, at 10:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I have been kicked off the list, and I judging from the archives, it 
has been a great while.  I hope this message makes it through.

 
Naomi
C4-incomplete, quadriplegic since July 2005
due to Transverse Myelitis



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Re: [TMIC] This Is a Test (for all)

2008-03-31 Thread Lawrence King

Naomi,
I wouldn't call it a happy anniversary but I've decided it's still 
good to be alive.  There is some question as to whether I can call my 
sensations Central Pain Syndrome or not because I don't have the 
three forms of pain defined, which include things like intolerance to 
hot and cold and intolerance to touch.  But I personally think the 
electrocution sensation is pretty agonizing  and without a combination 
of lyrica and cymbalta I would be looking for a cliff to throw myself 
from in a short time.  I even use voltage references to describe how 
I'm feeling to others and if they have never been zapped I recommend 
they lick the end of a new 9 volt battery to get an idea of my 
sensations.


You call yourself incomplete does that mean you have some use of your 
body below the injury level?


Mindy the Artist
On Apr 1, 2008, at 12:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Mindy,
 
Happy one year anniversary!  I've never heard of Central Neuropathy 
Syndrome.  Electrocution is something I've always tried to steer clear 
of.  I worked for my local electric company, installing electrical 
equipment for 25 years.  I did not like getting those little zap then 
and I sure wouldn't like getting them now.

 
Naomi
C4-incomplete, quadriplegic since July 2005
due to Transverse Myelitis



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[TMIC] Jude's Hospital (for all)

2008-03-28 Thread Lawrence King

I found this on Jude's hospitals web site:

If you have a quality or patient safety concern, please contact your 
physician, nurse, nurse manager, or another member of your healthcare 
team who will work with you to resolve your concern. If you feel the 
issue is not resolved, call the Genesys Patient Care Representative at 
810- 606-6551,


I also looked up the hospital health care record at several sites and 
found it to be average quality in only a few areas but substandard in 
the rest.  Every patient there deserves better!

Mindy  the Artist

[TMIC] on Jude's behalf (for all)

2008-03-28 Thread Lawrence King

Michigan Department of Community Health
 Any person may file a complaint about a health facility with the 
Michigan Department of Community Health, Bureau of Health Systems, 
Division of Operations, Complaint Investigations Unit, P.O. Box 30664, 
Lansing, Michigan 48909. If you need assistance or wish to make an oral 
complaint, you may call The Department of Community Health at (800) 
882-6006.


Mindy the Artist

[TMIC] Jude's info

2008-03-28 Thread Lawrence King

It's:
Judy Hoops
Room 4159
Genesys Health System
One Genesys Parkway
Grand Blanc, MI 48439

Mindy the Artist

Re: [TMIC] Unidentified subject! for all

2008-03-04 Thread Lawrence King

Hi Steven,
It's the one year anniversary of my TM attack and I was affected at 
C4-C5.  I guess it would qualify as a semi acute attack as my symptoms 
developed slowly  and I never lost mobility or even urinary/bowel 
control though it does take more effort these days,  what I did develop 
was neuropathic pain from the chest down: feels like I'm being 
electrocuted 24/7.  My pain has never improved and is not likely to and 
my balance is poor.


To avoid burning sensation I have given up all soda and limit juice to 
a small cup a day.  I find I can handle coffee if I drink a lot of 
water.  I also take vitamin C at night to acidify the urine and reduce 
my chances of developing an infection.  Hope this helps..

Mindy the Artist

On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Larry Throne wrote:




Welcome to the family Steven! You'll find a lot of love and 
understanding here. Where are you from? Maryland?





 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: tmic-list@eskimo.com

Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:06:18 +

Subject: [TMIC] Unidentified subject!


My name is Steven Jabs I am 34 years old.  I have TM since 2003 I was 
affected from the chest down and lost my breathing.  I was treated at 
John Hopkins by Dr. Kerr.  I currently walk with a cane.  I have 
bladder problems and allot of burning. I would like to talk to people 
who also have TM.    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mindy King
www.chairweaver.com
(740) 662-2001


Re: [TMIC] Merry Christmas!

2007-12-25 Thread Lawrence King

God bless us everyone!
Mindy the Artisan

On Dec 25, 2007, at 7:30 PM, LifeIsJoy wrote:


Me, three……..Cookie in Arizona
 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 7:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Merry Christmas!
 
Me, too! I wish you all a very special Christmas.
 
Barbara H.
http://barbarah.wordpress.com/
 
In a message dated 12/24/2007 6:25:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I just wanted to say Merry Christmas to you and the ones you love!
Larry in Oklahoma

 




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[TMIC] TM and Blood pressure

2007-10-26 Thread Lawrence King
Hey all,  firstly,  thanks all of you for the words of encouragement 
when I introduced myself  and good news, my general practitioner has 
prescribed physical therapy for me!  She said that it might make my 
Neuro unhappy and I laughed and said he dismissed me, remember! you've 
got carte blanche I carried in with me copies of your letters and read 
her a few bits.  She is thrilled that I have found you and since she 
has never (and may never have another) had a TM patient before she is 
interested in your collective wisdom and experiences to treat me.


So here's her first question:  those of you who also have high blood 
pressure, what is your experience medication wise, what drugs worked 
with the least side effects and or drug interactions.  I have to start 
the dash diet and will probably be put on some BP lowering drug within 
the month.


Also  should I think about antidepressants? life is really overwhelming 
right now!

Mindy the Artisan

[TMIC] officially TM

2007-10-01 Thread Lawrence King

Hi All,
I have just been officially diagnosed with TM and my Neurologist has 
dismissed me as his patient.  He does not expect my shivering sensation 
and Lhermitte’s sign to improve any further because I have passed the 
6-month mark since the attack took place.


I had hoped to talk him into some physical therapy even though I am 
walking wounded because I have found that walking any distance that 
would qualify as exercise causes acute pain.  I’ve heard that swimming, 
stationary cycling or elliptical training could help restore some of my 
level of fitness but I don’t have the financial resources to pay for 
access to such equipment.  His reason for excluding therapy was that he 
believed it would not help me recover from my forms of nerve pain.


I am frustrated because as a result of TM I have lost my fitness, 
gained weight and am now experiencing borderline high blood pressure, a 
condition which could be reversed by losing 20 lbs and getting moving 
again (in a minimal impact fashion).


I tried to see a pain specialist but when he found out what my causes 
and symptoms were he wouldn’t see me, said I should stick with my neuro 
for pain and my neuro is passing that responsibility off to my family 
practitioner.  She is an excellent doctor and was my friend first 
before she became my physician (hate doing that cause it changes 
everything) but she still listens to me better than other doctors 
because she knows that I exist outside of her office and she knows what 
kind of person I am when I’m not sick.  But this is her first venture 
into the world of TM.


All the advice I got from the Neuro regarding my pain management was to 
tell my family doc. That she could triple my current dose of lyrica (75 
mg 3 times a day) if needed but that I’d pay for the relief with 
medicine induced fatigue.  My insurance does pay for the Lyrica and I’m 
sure they would pay for the High blood pressure meds but looks like my 
hope of getting a little subsidized fitness help is out of the 
question.

Mindy the Artisan



Re: [TMIC] officially TM

2007-10-01 Thread Lawrence King

Barb,
Thank you for the hug!  I have held up pretty well all day since the 
appointment but was just now about to break down in puddles i will 
share your letter with my PCP and since I have a few weeks to prepare 
for my next appointment a little research into what it takes to get 
therapy out of docs and insurance is in order!


Your words of encouragement have really lifted my spirits
Mindy the Artisan
On Oct 1, 2007, at 11:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Mindy,
 
Your Neurologist is just wrong about not expecting to have any further 
improvement past the six months of onset, especially if you've already 
had improvement prior to that point.  There are many of us who have 
gotten improvement at two years and past that.  They may be small, but 
every bit is so important to us, and is so appreciated.  It comes from 
hard work though, and that means therapy, in the centers and home as 
well.  That doctor just isn't interested in treating you for some 
reason, which is very sad. 

 
Please tell your PCP (also friend) to look at the TMA website and 
she'll find some good information there about treating people with 
TM.  I am not sure, but I would think that she should be able to refer 
you for PT if she is the doctor treating you.  If there is a question 
with the insurance company, she should be able to answer anything they 
need, including the Neurologists unwillingness to continue treating 
you.

 
I wish you good luck with this, but you have got to be your own 
advocate for this.   Sometimes you just have to remain firm and make 
things happen for yourself or it just doesn't happen.  Don't give up!

 
Hugs, Barbara A
 
 



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[TMIC] Thanks!

2007-09-13 Thread Lawrence King
Thanks Jude... and the other folks who have welcomed me into this 
community.  I have been lurking and learning about how to cope with TM 
since July and I have to say you are an amazing group of people.  I 
don't have much wisdom to offer (okay,  I did email Frank about Hen3ry 
and Tom Lehrer as my husbands a fan and has the complete collection) 
but that's about it.  and I haven't tipped over backwards in a 
wheelchair yet but if my sense of balance takes one more hit I'm gonna 
need a cane  to avoid embarrassing encounters with lampposts   and 
local officers (this college town has a real reputation for being a 
party school)


I see my neuro Oct 1 and am trying to think of all the questions I 
could possibly write down to ask him about meds, treatments, recovery 
etc.  Anybody have  suggestions for my list?

Mindy the artisan

[TMIC] my introduction to the group

2007-09-11 Thread Lawrence King

Hello everyone,
I guess I’m ready to introduce myself.  I just got the results of my 
3rd MRI and the evidence clearly supports my June 25th 2007 TM 
diagnosis.  My attack happened around the 7th of March 2007.  It 
started with numbness and tingling in my legs for a few of days with 
the sense that a couple of times I thought my legs might give out on 
me.  I blamed it all on the fact that my time spent on the computer had 
quadrupled the same week and because I had a lumpectomy (not 
cancerous!) scheduled on the 15th of March.


Began to feel a tingling sensation when I tipped my head down a few 
days before surgery and blamed it on the lack of sleep and the stress 
and fear of surgery.  Didn’t notice much beyond the pain and bruising 
of having a ¼ cup of breast tissue scooped out for the next week but 
when that pain subsided I felt a continuous sense of shivering or 
buzzing and an electrical shock down to my finger tips and toes every 
time I tipped my head down with excessive tingling down my left arm.  
We now know the name for this symptom is called Lhermitte’s sign.


Did not get to see a Neurologist until May1.  At first the surgery 
department was blamed for giving me a “stinger” neck injury while under 
anesthesia.  Then an MRI revealed a mass or lesion at the c4/c5 level, 
MS, tumors and TM were all considered.  A lumbar puncture did not show 
evidence of a tumor, cancerous or otherwise but proteins associated 
with an attack of the myelin sheath were found.  MS was dismissed 
because of my age (46) and absolute absence of lesions in my brain.  My 
slow onset, extenuating circumstances and lack of dramatic symptoms 
made for a drawn-out diagnosis.


I’ve never had walking difficulties nor many of the other issues TM 
survivors face and after reading these posts for the last few months I 
think I have no right to complain even though electrocuting yourself 
every time you tip your head down is no fun, found Lyrica on my own and 
asked my doctor for it but I’m wondering if there is something better 
I’d also love to hear if anyone else has had Lhermittes sign and if 
their symptoms improved over time?


Mindy the Artisan

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www.chairweaver.com
www.mirthworkscreations.com

[TMIC] Hen3ry

2007-07-11 Thread Lawrence King
The comedic songwriter's name is Tom Lehrer,  I wondered if you were 
familiar with him when I saw the numbers in your name.  Here's the 
quote from an evening wasted with Tom Lehrer


I am reminded at this point of a fellow I used to know whose name was 
Henry, only to give you an idea of what a individualist he was, he 
spelled it H-E-N-3-R-Y. The three was silent, you see.


Henry was financially independent, having inherited his father's 
tar-and-feather business, and was therefore able to devote his full 
time to such intellectual pursuits as writing. I particularly remember 
a heartwarming novel of his about a young necrophiliac who finally 
achieved his boyhood ambition by becoming coroner. ... (scattered 
laughter) The rest of you can look it up when you get home.


In addition to writing, he indulged in a good deal of philosophizing. 
Like so many contemporary philosophers, he especially enjoyed giving 
helpful advice to people who were happier than he was. And one 
particular bit of advice which I recall - which is the reason I bring 
up this whole dreary story - is something he said once, before they 
took him away to the Massachusetts State Home for the Bewildered.


He said: Life is like a sewer - what you get out of it depends on what 
you put into it. It's always seemed to me that this is precisely the 
sort of dynamic, positive thinking that we so desperately need today in 
these trying time of crisis and universal brouhaha. And so with this in 
mind, I have here a modern, positive, dynamic, uplifting song, in the 
tradition of the great old revival hymns. This one might more 
accurately be termed a survival hymn. It goes like this


  and then he launches into the song :We will all go together when we 
go


Enjoy the memory!
Min
On Jul 11, 2007, at 8:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Whatever it just don't make sence putting a number in a name.


Rick,

Long ago I listened to a record by Tom Lair (SP?).  He sang a song 
made up of all the elements known at that time- long ago, in the 
1950's- he also talked about a friend, Hen3ry, the 3 was silent. 
HaHaHa, I would laugh.


When I was old enough, I started putting numbers into my name.  
HaHaHa, people would laugh.


Years later, Mr. Gore and his buddies invented the internet, and 
passwords were born.  Words with imbedded numbers were the ultimate 
passwords.


So now you know how the 3 was born!

pH