Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-25 Thread jrushton
Jenna, it must be 'where' the lesion is and how much damage it has or they
have done.  Also, I think it also my have to do with how long it went on
from the onset before anything was done to 'stop' it?? Your earlier comment,
who knows for sure is right on!  Jeanne
 
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From: Jenna
Date: 11/24/2008 8:13:40 PM
To: Pieter and Heather;  [EMAIL PROTECTED];  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431
 
It is complicated. But I have 3 lesions on my spine.  And damage to my optic
nerve.   So since the damage to the optic nerve was first, before the first
problems showed up in the spine, it is call Divic's version of MS.  I hope
this makes some kind of since.  But the weird thing to me is so many of you
my friends have no lesions, just inflammation and can not walk and here I am
with 3 lesions and can still walk??? 

 
Jenna






From: Pieter and Heather [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:20:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


That is the way I understand it too Jude.  My sister who is 3 yrs younger
than me has MS.  It is the one that progresses slowly but everytime she has
and MRI she has more lesions on both spine and brain.  
 
Heather in Calgary 
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


Hello All,
 
It has been my understanding that with TM one must have lesions on the spine
but not on the brain.  If one has lesions on the brain it is indicative of
MS.
 
Am I misinformed regarding this information?  
 
God Bless You,
Jude
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 8:34:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Frank,
They were never able to locate a lesion on my spine and from what I have
read on the message forums this is true for alot of people.  

I had mutiple MRIs done both with and without contrast.
Lynne


--- On Sun, 11/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431
 To: jrushton [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], TMIC
tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:30 PM
i have a question, has anyone else been told that
 they don't have  lesions on their spine? my neuro
 says mine is just swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10., so
 what does that mean? 
 
 What does  swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10 mean??
 
 Did you have an MRI with and with out gadolium
 (enhansement)?
 
 F


  









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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread Heyjude48458
 
 
Hello All,
 
It has been my understanding that with TM one  must have lesions on the spine 
but not on the brain.  If one has  lesions on the brain it is indicative of 
MS.
 
Am I misinformed regarding this  information?  
 
God Bless You,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 8:34:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Frank,
They were never able to locate a lesion on my spine and  from what I have 
read on the message forums this is true for alot of  people.  

I had mutiple MRIs done both with and without  contrast.
Lynne


--- On Sun, 11/23/08,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431
 To:  jrushton [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, November 23,  2008, 4:30 PM
i have a question,  has anyone else been told that
 they don't have  lesions on  their spine? my neuro
 says mine is just swelling from c6-t3   and t9-t10., so
 what does that mean? 
 
 What  does  swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10 mean??
 
  Did you have an MRI with and with out gadolium
  (enhansement)?
 
 F








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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread Pieter and Heather
AOL EmailThat is the way I understand it too Jude.  My sister who is 3 yrs 
younger than me has MS.  It is the one that progresses slowly but everytime she 
has and MRI she has more lesions on both spine and brain.  

Heather in Calgary 
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


Hello All,

It has been my understanding that with TM one must have lesions on the 
spine but not on the brain.  If one has lesions on the brain it is indicative 
of MS.

Am I misinformed regarding this information?  

God Bless You,
Jude

In a message dated 11/24/2008 8:34:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Frank,
  They were never able to locate a lesion on my spine and from what I 
have read on the message forums this is true for alot of people.  

  I had mutiple MRIs done both with and without contrast.
  Lynne


  --- On Sun, 11/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431
   To: jrushton [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], TMIC 
tmic-list@eskimo.com
   Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:30 PM
  i have a question, has anyone else been told that
   they don't have  lesions on their spine? my neuro
   says mine is just swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10., so
   what does that mean? 
   
   What does  swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10 mean??
   
   Did you have an MRI with and with out gadolium
   (enhansement)?
   
   F




   






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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread JHarper33
Yes, that's right, but some people have no lesions at all show  up on the MRI 
on spine or brain. I was one. Perhaps they are too small to show  up? I don't 
know
 
Barbara H.
_http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) 
 
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 2:07:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello All,
 
It has been my understanding that with TM one must  have lesions on the spine 
but not on the brain.  If one has lesions on  the brain it is indicative of 
MS.
 
Am I misinformed regarding this information?   

God Bless You,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 8:34:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Frank,
They were never able to locate a lesion on my spine and  from what I have 
read on the message forums this is true for alot of  people.  

I had mutiple MRIs done both with and without  contrast.
Lynne


--- On Sun, 11/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re:  [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431
 To: jrushton  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], TMIC 
 tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:30  PM
i have a question, has anyone else  been told that
 they don't have  lesions on their spine? my  neuro
 says mine is just swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10.,  so
 what does that mean? 
 
 What does  swelling  from c6-t3  and t9-t10 mean??
 
 Did you have an MRI with  and with out gadolium
 (enhansement)?
 
  F




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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread Heyjude48458
 
 
Good.  I hate to be spreading wrong  information to others with TM.  This is 
the only site I email to  because of the fear of becoming confused about 
illnesses.  My brain  is simply not what is used to be.
 
You know what?  I used to be Mensa  material but now I become confused so 
easily and am so forgetful that I  hate to impart information to anyone.  Is it 
because of the disease  or the drugs I take to combat the TM?
 
Love to all,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 2:21:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That is the way I understand  it too Jude.  My sister who is 3 yrs younger 
than me has MS.   It is the one that progresses slowly but everytime she has 
and 
MRI she  has more lesions on both spine and brain.  
 
Heather in Calgary  

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From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008  12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:  tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431



 
Hello All,
 
It has been my understanding that with  TM one must have lesions on the spine 
but not on the  brain.  If one has lesions on the brain it is indicative of  
MS.
 
Am I misinformed regarding this  information?  
 
God Bless You,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 8:34:00 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:

Frank,
They were never able to locate a lesion on my  spine and from what I have 
read on the message forums this is  true for alot of people.  

I had mutiple MRIs done  both with and without contrast.
Lynne


--- On  Sun, 11/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431
  To: jrushton [EMAIL PROTECTED],  [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:30 PM
i have a question, has anyone else been  told that
 they don't have  lesions on their spine?  my neuro
 says mine is just swelling from c6-t3   and t9-t10., so
 what does that mean? 
 
  What does  swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10  mean??
 
 Did you have an MRI with and with out  gadolium
 (enhansement)?
 
  F











 

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RE: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread Butcher, Bernard G (NY80)
Hi Jude - when I was diagnosed with TM, my neuros saw lesions on
my spine - then (a year ago) I started seeing double - MRI showed lesion
on my optic nerve - - boom . . .  MS.

 
Barney
 



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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


Good.  I hate to be spreading wrong information to others with TM.  This
is the only site I email to because of the fear of becoming confused
about illnesses.  My brain is simply not what is used to be.
 
You know what?  I used to be Mensa material but now I become confused
so easily and am so forgetful that I hate to impart information to
anyone.  Is it because of the disease or the drugs I take to combat the
TM?
 
Love to all,
Jude
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 2:21:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


That is the way I understand it too Jude.  My sister who is 3
yrs younger than me has MS.  It is the one that progresses slowly but
everytime she has and MRI she has more lesions on both spine and brain.

 
Heather in Calgary 

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

Hello All,
 
It has been my understanding that with TM one must have lesions on the
spine but not on the brain.  If one has lesions on the brain it is
indicative of MS.
 
Am I misinformed regarding this information?  
 
God Bless You,
Jude
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 8:34:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Frank,
They were never able to locate a lesion on my spine and from
what I have read on the message forums this is true for alot of people.


I had mutiple MRIs done both with and without contrast.
Lynne


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431
 To: jrushton [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:30 PM
i have a question, has anyone else been told that
 they don't have  lesions on their spine? my neuro
 says mine is just swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10., so
 what does that mean? 
 
 What does  swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10 mean??
 
 Did you have an MRI with and with out gadolium
 (enhansement)?
 
 F


  









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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread jrushton
Jude, that was what I was told from three neurologists.  j

Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread jrushton
Barbara, the first three MRI's that were done were when I was in ER and they 
didn't see anything.  It wasn't until I got into Harborview in Seattle that the 
neuro found the lesion. None on the brain at that time and still no new ones on 
the spinal cord nor on the brain.  Thank God for that..j

Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread Heyjude48458
 
 
I just got off of the phone with Patti and she  seems to be doing quite well. 
 I guess I have not been posting as  much as I thought, because she mentioned 
not hearing from me  too.
 
Sorry everyone.  I guess that I am having a  minor pity party and don't 
feel like other people care to hear about my  woes when they have troubles of 
their own. 
 
I can't imagine having TM the way I do and  trying to raise a family at the 
same time.  Those of you with  children have a blessing and a burden at the 
same time.  And I mean  that in the most loving way.  If Dave and I had 
children, 
with me  being paralyzed, our children would be sorely lacking in so many  
ways.  Dave would have made a wonderful father, so patient and kind,  but I 
don't know what I could have contributed.
 
I feel terribly guilty because I don't give Dave  all of the loving 
appreciation he deserves as my husband.  But most  of the time I am in too much 
pain to 
feel like being intimate.  Am I  wrong?  Should I try harder?  Should I try 
to hide the pain and  force myself?  
 
Or, should I continue to smile when I can, tell  him how much I love and 
appreciate him all of the time like I do, and try  to not worry about the other 
things because as he says, I am happy with  things just the way they are.  
And 
he means what he  says.
 
How many of you feel guilty about not being as  intimate as you used to be 
before TM?  I live my life from a hospital  bed and am in bad pain all of the 
time.  Along with the intense pain,  my abdomen feels like it is being squeezed 
by a python or a super-tight  corset being pulled increasingly more and more 
tight.  Plus I don't  feel especially sexy with an indwelling catheter.
 
The most Dave and I do together is watch a  movie.  We recently lost our 21 
yr. old cat...one of our  babies.  Her brother was buried in the spring so we 
were lucky to  have Sadie as long as we did.  They were like our children 
because we  couldn't have any of our own and Dave never wanted to adopt 
although 
I  would have loved any child, mine or otherwise.
 
How boring for me to go on this way.   Please accept my apology but I must 
have needed to get it  out.
 
God's Love to you all...
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 2:57:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jude,
 
Neuro's haven't said anything  about it.  I know there has been discussions 
on the Transverse  Myelitis Association Forum and there are several people who 
have family  members with similar illnesses. 
My Dad suffered from  arthritis terribly and then he died as complications of 
 Alzheimer's.  My youngest sister had 'Colitis' when she was in here  teens.  
She had her large bowel and rectum removed at age 19.   She is now 58 yrs old 
and suffers from arthritis, can't each much  anymore due to complications 
with intestines and had a never ever ending  bladder infections.  She has lived 
with pain almost her whole  life.  I call her my hero and have done so since 
1972 when she had  her major surgeries.  She went on to marry and have two 
children  now aged 22 and 18.  She amazes me.  But her health is bad.  

So me with TM at age 58 (it  started then), my next sister now 60 has had MS 
diagnosed for almost 20  yrs and then my youngest sister aged 58 (who has 
suffered for most of  her life).
 
Autoimmune disorders all of  them.  I do think there is a connection with us 
all. 
 
Nice to see you back  on-line.  Hope you are doing okay right now.
 
We met up with Patti and Jim  again in October in Ontario.  We were down that 
way for a month and  they came over from the USA for 2 days.  It was so good 
to see them  again. 
 
Hugs to you 
Heather 

- Original Message - 
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008  12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:  tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431



 
What do the neuro's say about the fact  that your sister has MS and you have 
TM?  What are the  chances of that in one family?
 
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 2:21:21 P.M. Eastern Standard  Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:

That is the way I  understand it too Jude.  My sister who is 3 yrs younger  
than me has MS.  It is the one that progresses slowly but  everytime she has 
and MRI she has more lesions on both spine  and brain.  
 
Heather in Calgary  

- Original Message -  
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com)   
Sent: Monday, November  24, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:  tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431



 
Hello  All,
 
It has been my understanding  that with TM one must have lesions on the spine 
but  not on the brain.  If one has lesions on the  brain it is indicative of 
MS.
 
Am I misinformed regarding  this information?  
 
God Bless  You,
Jude

Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread jrushton
 You, dear one, are so very special to so many of us and what comes thru 
on-line is just a small part of what you must give to your friends and family 
that can hug you and touch you.  There is nothing at all wrong with that little 
'pity-pottie-party'...in fact I think it is very important that we all sit down 
(not literally) and just cry our hearts out.  Sometimes, like I always say, 
crying is a cleansing of our soul and that's when God is finally able to take 
over.  We have a hard time letting go so He can, don't we?

You are one of many that feel bad because we cannot share the intimacy that we 
once had with our husband.  Jack and I have talked about it from the beginning 
and even tho this is getting a little personal, I talked to him about making 
love even tho I have no feeling and his answer was an emphatic, NO!  He said 
it was either both of us or nothing.  BUT he also said we make love in a 
thousand ways that has nothing to do with sex and he is so right.  He also 
tells me he loves me just the way I am and I truly feel he means it.  It breaks 
his heart when he sees me hurting so bad because there is nothing else that he 
can do for me.  Yes, we are so blessed, you and I, and others whose spouse 
loves us so much.  Do we choose to live this way, with all of the impairments 
and pain?  No, but here we are and all we can do is the best we can do.  

And there you are, dear Jude, sending all of the love and encouragement to all 
of us with all that you are going thru yourself.  Know that you are loved and 
we so appreciate every moment and caring words you send our way, especially 
when each one of us have our own 'pity-pottie-parties'.  We need you all of the 
time but especially during those times.

With love, hugs, and caring,

Jeanne 

Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread CANDIS KALLEY
I took 4 MRIs before they (the Tech) found my lesions.  Thank God I had a 
different tech or who knows what may hahave happened - probably sent home and 
told to go see a physic.

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lynne myers [EMAIL PROTECTED], tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:31:41 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


 They were never able to locate a lesion on my spine and from what I have read 
 on the message forums this is true for alot of people.  
 Lynne,

Perhaps you had multiple microscopic lesions

F




Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread kimr1999






dig with TM in Oct 04 and relapse in Apr 08 and on both MRI's was told they can not find any lesions
-- Original message from CANDIS KALLEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- I took 4 MRIs before they (the Tech) found my lesions. Thank God I had a different tech or who knows what may hahave happened - probably sent home and  told to go see a physic.   - Original Message -  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: "lynne myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "tmic" <TMIC-LIST@ESKIMO.COM> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:31:41 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431They were never able to locate a lesion on my spine and from what I have read  on the message forums this is true for alot of people.  Lynne,   Perhaps you had multiple microscopic lesions   F   






Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread Jenna
Jude honey we always want to hear about you!!!  You are such a part of this 
group.  We want to hear about your good days and your bad days. We love you!

 Jenna





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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:14:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

AOL Email 
I just got off of the phone with Patti and she  seems to be doing quite well.  
I guess I have not been posting as  much as I thought, because she mentioned 
not hearing from me  too.
 
Sorry everyone.  I guess that I am having a  minor pity party and don't feel 
like other people care to hear about my  woes when they have troubles of their 
own. 
 
I can't imagine having TM the way I do and  trying to raise a family at the 
same time.  Those of you with  children have a blessing and a burden at the 
same time.  And I mean  that in the most loving way.  If Dave and I had 
children, with me  being paralyzed, our children would be sorely lacking in so 
many  ways.  Dave would have made a wonderful father, so patient and kind,  but 
I don't know what I could have contributed.
 
I feel terribly guilty because I don't give Dave  all of the loving 
appreciation he deserves as my husband.  But most  of the time I am in too much 
pain to feel like being intimate.  Am I  wrong?  Should I try harder?  Should I 
try to hide the pain and  force myself?  
 
Or, should I continue to smile when I can, tell  him how much I love and 
appreciate him all of the time like I do, and try  to not worry about the other 
things because as he says, I am happy with  things just the way they are.  
And he means what he  says.
 
How many of you feel guilty about not being as  intimate as you used to be 
before TM?  I live my life from a hospital  bed and am in bad pain all of the 
time.  Along with the intense pain,  my abdomen feels like it is being squeezed 
by a python or a super-tight  corset being pulled increasingly more and more 
tight.  Plus I don't  feel especially sexy with an indwelling catheter.
 
The most Dave and I do together is watch a  movie.  We recently lost our 21 yr. 
old cat...one of our  babies.  Her brother was buried in the spring so we 
were lucky to  have Sadie as long as we did.  They were like our children 
because we  couldn't have any of our own and Dave never wanted to adopt 
although I  would have loved any child, mine or otherwise.
 
How boring for me to go on this way.   Please accept my apology but I must have 
needed to get it  out.
 
God's Love to you all...
Jude
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 2:57:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Jude,
 
Neuro's haven't said anything  about it.  I know there has been discussions on 
the Transverse  Myelitis Association Forum and there are several people who 
have family  members with similar illnesses. 
My Dad suffered from  arthritis terribly and then he died as complications of  
Alzheimer's.  My youngest sister had 'Colitis' when she was in here  teens.  
She had her large bowel and rectum removed at age 19.   She is now 58 yrs old 
and suffers from arthritis, can't each much  anymore due to complications with 
intestines and had a never ever ending  bladder infections.  She has lived with 
pain almost her whole  life.  I call her my hero and have done so since 1972 
when she had  her major surgeries.  She went on to marry and have two children  
now aged 22 and 18.  She amazes me.  But her health is bad. 
 
So me with TM at age 58 (it  started then), my next sister now 60 has had MS 
diagnosed for almost 20  yrs and then my youngest sister aged 58 (who has 
suffered for most of  her life).
 
Autoimmune disorders all of  them.  I do think there is a connection with us 
all. 
 
Nice to see you back  on-line.  Hope you are doing okay right now.
 
We met up with Patti and Jim  again in October in Ontario.  We were down that 
way for a month and  they came over from the USA for 2 days.  It was so good to 
see them  again. 
 
Hugs to you 
Heather 
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008  12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:  tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

What do the neuro's say about the fact  that your sister has MS and you have 
TM?  What are the  chances of that in one family?
 
Jude
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 2:21:21 P.M. Eastern Standard  Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
That is the way I  understand it too Jude.  My sister who is 3 yrs younger  
than me has MS.  It is the one that progresses slowly but  everytime she has 
and MRI she has more lesions on both spine  and brain.  
 
Heather in Calgary 
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November  24, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:  tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

Hello  All,
 
It has been my understanding  that with TM one must have lesions

Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread Jenna
It is complicated. But I have 3 lesions on my spine.  And damage to my optic 
nerve.   So since the damage to the optic nerve was first, before the first 
problems showed up in the spine, it is call Divic's version of MS.  I hope this 
makes some kind of since.  But the weird thing to me is so many of you my 
friends have no lesions, just inflammation and can not walk and here I am with 
3 lesions and can still walk??? 

 Jenna





From: Pieter and Heather [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:20:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

AOL Email  
That is the way I understand it too 
Jude.  My sister who is 3 yrs younger than me has MS.  It is the one 
that progresses slowly but everytime she has and MRI she has more lesions on 
both spine and brain.  
 
Heather in Calgary 
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:06  PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest  Digest V2008 #431

Hello All,
 
It has been my understanding that with TM one  must have lesions on the spine 
but not on the brain.  If one has  lesions on the brain it is indicative of MS.
 
Am I misinformed regarding this  information?  
 
God Bless You,
Jude
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 8:34:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Frank,
They were never able to locate a lesion on my spine  and from what I have read 
on the message forums this is true for alot  of people.  

I had mutiple MRIs done both with and without  contrast.
Lynne


--- On Sun, 11/23/08,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:  tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431
 To: jrushton  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], TMIC  
 tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008,  4:30 PM
i have a question, has  anyone else been told that
 they don't have  lesions on  their spine? my neuro
 says mine is just swelling from c6-t3   and t9-t10., so
 what does that mean? 
 
  What does  swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10 mean??
 
 Did you have an MRI with and with out gadolium
  (enhansement)?
 
 F


  

 





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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-24 Thread Jenna
I have damage to the optic nerve and 3 lesions on the spine, and have been told 
it is Divic's as part of MS.  But no problems with the brain so far.

Honey who knows for sure???

 Jenna





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:06:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

AOL Email 
Hello All,
 
It has been my understanding that with TM one  must have lesions on the spine 
but not on the brain.  If one has  lesions on the brain it is indicative of MS.
 
Am I misinformed regarding this  information?  
 
God Bless You,
Jude
 
In a message dated 11/24/2008 8:34:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Frank,
They were never able to locate a lesion on my spine and  from what I have read 
on the message forums this is true for alot of  people.  

I had mutiple MRIs done both with and without  contrast.
Lynne


--- On Sun, 11/23/08,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431
 To:  jrushton [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],  TMIC 
 tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, November 23,  2008, 4:30 PM
i have a question,  has anyone else been told that
 they don't have  lesions on  their spine? my neuro
 says mine is just swelling from c6-t3   and t9-t10., so
 what does that mean? 
 
 What  does  swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10 mean??
 
  Did you have an MRI with and with out gadolium
  (enhansement)?
 
 F


  

 





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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-23 Thread jrushton
  In response to:

  i have a question, has anyone else been told that they don't have lesions 
on their spine? my neuro says mine is just swelling from c6-t3 and t9-t10., so 
what does that mean? will the swelling go down? will i be able to recover? i am 
a single mother of two and i really want to be able to take care of myself and 
my babies. i keep thinking i am not trying hard enough. i am wheelchair bound, 
and it seems recovery is happening but very slow. got diagnosed aug. 11th of 
this year and was told i would see most of recovery from 3-6 months. i feel 
like i am on some deadline and my time to get better will be up soon. i am 
scared and i am not sure what to do. any advice?

  thanks
  Amanda in Calhoun, gad 



Amanda, dear,  you have legitimate questions that really need to be discussed 
with a neurologist.  Do you have one that you can go see and have a heart to 
heart talk with?  They usually will be able to give you more time than your 
regular provider who is so limited on how long they can spend with patients 
anymore.  

Your comment on not trying hard enough is being too hard on yourself.  Treat 
yourself through all of this just like you would one of your children.  Be 
kinder to yourself if you can.  This TM is not something that a whole lot of 
people know much about and is a rare occurrence so there aren't a lot of 
answers when it comes to recovery time and the extent of how fast or even how 
far your recovery will go. Try to keep your spirit up as much as you can, don't 
give up and sometimes it will be very hard especially when you have the worries 
of your two children.  There are no deadlines with TM.  No two of us with TM 
are the same.  I can't tell you not to be scared because not knowing can make 
any of us scared, especially when you are going thru something like you are 
right now.

Do you have any help for yourself?  For your children?  Family or friends?  Did 
they help you before you left the hospital to make sure you had everything you 
needed upon your return home?  

You have come to a good place by being on this site and you will learn a lot by 
reading the notes even if you don't write back.  I sure hope you do because we 
would like to know how you are doing and what kind of help you are getting.

Please take care!

Jeanne in Dayton

Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   i have a question, has anyone else been told that they don't have  
 lesions on their spine? my neuro says mine is just swelling from c6-t3  and 
 t9-t10., so what does that mean? 

What does  swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10 mean??

Did you have an MRI with and with out gadolium (enhansement)?

F



RE: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-21 Thread Butcher, Bernard G (NY80)
Hi Jeanne - congrats on your progress! - it is also my goal to walk
without walker. I hope I can but I was diagnosed with MS after TM. My
neuro wants me to go for an evaluation for walk aide - a gadget you
strap to your calf to jolt you when you are trying to take a step, and
also a new med coming out next year - we'll see. First I have to get off
my butt  exercise more but in the evening I am too pooped from working
all day  can't do it in the morning because then I'll be too pooped at
work!
 
Barney
 



From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


Amanda, you couldn't have come to a better group.  We go clear across
the chart in where we are in our post TM onset so you will have a lot of
support.  I don't think anyone really knows where each person will be
with their TM.  Some do improve right away, some improve partially from
the onset, others take longer and then sadly, a few where there aren't
many changes from the onset.  

I was totally paralyzed from the chest down and after the first week was
able to move my left toe.  After three weeks, I was able to sit up and
move my legs but still could not walk but was determined to get better.
With prayer and PT I progressed from a wheelchair full time, to a walker
and wheelchair, to a wheelchair with shopping and traveling, and now can
walk, drive, and get around pretty darn well from where I started.  I
walk like a drunk and always take a cane if I'm going anywhere but by
gosh, I can do it!!!  I still don't have the feeling back from the chest
down even tho I have sensation here and there.  There are others who
have come a whole lot further than I have.  Each case is different. 
 
Please take care and although I wish this hadn't happened to you, you
are welcome as sunshine to this new family of supporters!
 
Jeanne in Dayton, WA


Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-21 Thread ACAROE
Hi Bernie,   Rosalie here, now in sunny Florida.   Just  went for an 
evaluation with the bioness system (walk aid).  It is used for  drop foot and 
helps to 
lift your ankle up so you dont drag on the floor.   Didn't work for me.  
However my foot doesnt really drag so  much.   I thought it might help with the 
walking but it is only for  your ankle.  I spend most of my time in the power 
chair anyhow because if I  walk with the walker I cant stand on my own when I 
get to where I am going, like  the kitchen.  Hope you are as well as can be and 
not feeling too much of  the cold on Long Island.  Take care, Rosalie
 
 
In a message dated 11/21/2008 8:22:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi Jeanne - congrats on your progress! - it is also my  goal to walk without 
walker. I hope I can but I was diagnosed with MS after  TM. My neuro wants me 
to go for an evaluation for walk aide - a gadget you  strap to your calf to 
jolt you when you are trying to take a step, and also a  new med coming out 
next year - we'll see. First I have to get off my butt   exercise more but in 
the evening I am too pooped from working all day   can't do it in the morning 
because then I'll be too pooped at  work!
 
Barney
 

 

 From: jrushton  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November  20, 2008 7:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic
Subject: Re:  [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431



Amanda, you couldn't have come to a better  group.  We go clear across the 
chart in where we are in our post TM onset  so you will have a lot of support.  
I don't think anyone really knows  where each person will be with their TM.  
Some do improve right away,  some improve partially from the onset, others take 
longer and then sadly, a  few where there aren't many changes from the onset. 
 

I  was totally paralyzed from the chest down and after the first week was 
able to  move my left toe.  After three weeks, I was able to sit up and move my 
 
legs but still could not walk but was determined to get better.  With  prayer 
and PT I progressed from a wheelchair full time, to a walker and  wheelchair, 
to a wheelchair with shopping and traveling, and now can  walk, drive, and get 
around pretty darn well from where I started.  I  walk like a drunk and 
always take a cane if I'm going anywhere but by gosh, I  can do it!!!  I still 
don't have the feeling back from the chest down  even tho I have sensation here 
and there.  There are others who have come  a whole lot further than I have.  
Each case is  different. 
 
Please take care and although I wish this hadn't  happened to you, you are 
welcome as sunshine to this new family of  supporters!
 
Jeanne in Dayton,  WA


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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-21 Thread jrushton
Hi, friend!  I tried that walk aide out and the concept is really good but it 
was just too expensive ($4,000) and our ins. wouldn't cover it. Trying it out I 
could see how it did work and that was from setting the timing of the elec. 
jolt into the muscle that makes you able to take a real step.  The jolt was 
surprising at first but not that bad especially knowing and seeing how it could 
help you not drag your foot.  Good luck on that!  I'll be anxious to hear how 
it works out for you!!!

I admire the fact that you are working!  I tried but just couldn't do it.  I 
just plain didn't have the stamina to do a good job.  The clinic was so 
wonderful and would have let me continue but it wasn't fair to them or the 
staff.  It was the right decision to retire.

Please take care!!  Jeanne 

RE: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-21 Thread Butcher, Bernard G (NY80)
My neuro said that my insurance (United Health Care) does cover it,
we'll see how much. Yes, I am working, for Honeywell. They have even set
me up to work from home a couple of days per week - especially good when
the nasty weather hits. Stamina is a real problem for me, I poop out
after lunch usually, I gotta push it. In the evenings I just flop.
 
Barney
 



From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:41 AM
To: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


Hi, friend!  I tried that walk aide out and the concept is really good
but it was just too expensive ($4,000) and our ins. wouldn't cover it.
Trying it out I could see how it did work and that was from setting the
timing of the elec. jolt into the muscle that makes you able to take a
real step.  The jolt was surprising at first but not that bad especially
knowing and seeing how it could help you not drag your foot.  Good luck
on that!  I'll be anxious to hear how it works out for you!!!
 
I admire the fact that you are working!  I tried but just couldn't do
it.  I just plain didn't have the stamina to do a good job.  The clinic
was so wonderful and would have let me continue but it wasn't fair to
them or the staff.  It was the right decision to retire.
 
Please take care!!  Jeanne 


Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-21 Thread Pieter and Heather
Barney,

I'm using the WalkAide since mid May.  I'm in a 3 (three) year Clinical Trial 
here in Alberta.  Not everyone is able to use it depending on if they can find 
the pathway for the Peroneal nerve.  I was one of 3 out of 13 people they had 
tested when I first got it.  Out of the 13 at the clinic at that time only 3 of 
us turned out to be eligible.  There are probably more now.  It took a while 
for me to get used to it.  At first it stabbed me like a darning needle. But 
eventually they found the right spot and it feels like a river of sensation 
going from the point that electrode contacts the nerve down my leg to my toes.  
It lifts my toes. The biggest advantage I have found is that I do not 
'hip-hike' like I did and my leg is much less tired by the end of the day.  I 
know that in the Orthotist Clinic that I go to they had 2 people with MS, 2 
stroke patients and 2 people with TM at one point.  Worth a try especially if 
it is covered by your insurance or something else.  I know that I only had to 
pay $500. but the price would be about $4500. if I had to pay for it myself.  
When I was 'hip-hiking' so much I found I was getting a cortisone shot in my 
hip every 6 months to alleviate the pain.

Heather in Calgary 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80) 
  To: jrushton ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic 
  Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:22 AM
  Subject: RE: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


  Hi Jeanne - congrats on your progress! - it is also my goal to walk without 
walker. I hope I can but I was diagnosed with MS after TM. My neuro wants me to 
go for an evaluation for walk aide - a gadget you strap to your calf to jolt 
you when you are trying to take a step, and also a new med coming out next year 
- we'll see. First I have to get off my butt  exercise more but in the evening 
I am too pooped from working all day  can't do it in the morning because then 
I'll be too pooped at work!

  Barney




--
  From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:32 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


  Amanda, you couldn't have come to a better group.  We go clear across the 
chart in where we are in our post TM onset so you will have a lot of support.  
I don't think anyone really knows where each person will be with their TM.  
Some do improve right away, some improve partially from the onset, others take 
longer and then sadly, a few where there aren't many changes from the onset.  

  I was totally paralyzed from the chest down and after the first week was able 
to move my left toe.  After three weeks, I was able to sit up and move my legs 
but still could not walk but was determined to get better.  With prayer and PT 
I progressed from a wheelchair full time, to a walker and wheelchair, to a 
wheelchair with shopping and traveling, and now can walk, drive, and get around 
pretty darn well from where I started.  I walk like a drunk and always take a 
cane if I'm going anywhere but by gosh, I can do it!!!  I still don't have the 
feeling back from the chest down even tho I have sensation here and there.  
There are others who have come a whole lot further than I have.  Each case is 
different. 

  Please take care and although I wish this hadn't happened to you, you are 
welcome as sunshine to this new family of supporters!

  Jeanne in Dayton, WA

RE: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-21 Thread Butcher, Bernard G (NY80)
Thanks Heather - I'll try it.
I'll try anything!
 
Barney
 



From: Pieter and Heather [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:53 PM
To: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); jrushton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


Barney,
 
I'm using the WalkAide since mid May.  I'm in a 3 (three) year Clinical
Trial here in Alberta.  Not everyone is able to use it depending on if
they can find the pathway for the Peroneal nerve.  I was one of 3 out of
13 people they had tested when I first got it.  Out of the 13 at the
clinic at that time only 3 of us turned out to be eligible.  There are
probably more now.  It took a while for me to get used to it.  At first
it stabbed me like a darning needle. But eventually they found the right
spot and it feels like a river of sensation going from the point that
electrode contacts the nerve down my leg to my toes.  It lifts my toes.
The biggest advantage I have found is that I do not 'hip-hike' like I
did and my leg is much less tired by the end of the day.  I know that in
the Orthotist Clinic that I go to they had 2 people with MS, 2 stroke
patients and 2 people with TM at one point.  Worth a try especially if
it is covered by your insurance or something else.  I know that I only
had to pay $500. but the price would be about $4500. if I had to pay for
it myself.  When I was 'hip-hiking' so much I found I was getting a
cortisone shot in my hip every 6 months to alleviate the pain.
 
Heather in Calgary 

- Original Message - 
From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80)
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: jrushton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

Hi Jeanne - congrats on your progress! - it is also my goal to
walk without walker. I hope I can but I was diagnosed with MS after TM.
My neuro wants me to go for an evaluation for walk aide - a gadget you
strap to your calf to jolt you when you are trying to take a step, and
also a new med coming out next year - we'll see. First I have to get off
my butt  exercise more but in the evening I am too pooped from working
all day  can't do it in the morning because then I'll be too pooped at
work!
 
Barney
 



From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


Amanda, you couldn't have come to a better group.  We go clear
across the chart in where we are in our post TM onset so you will have a
lot of support.  I don't think anyone really knows where each person
will be with their TM.  Some do improve right away, some improve
partially from the onset, others take longer and then sadly, a few where
there aren't many changes from the onset.  

I was totally paralyzed from the chest down and after the first
week was able to move my left toe.  After three weeks, I was able to sit
up and move my legs but still could not walk but was determined to get
better.  With prayer and PT I progressed from a wheelchair full time, to
a walker and wheelchair, to a wheelchair with shopping and traveling,
and now can walk, drive, and get around pretty darn well from where I
started.  I walk like a drunk and always take a cane if I'm going
anywhere but by gosh, I can do it!!!  I still don't have the feeling
back from the chest down even tho I have sensation here and there.
There are others who have come a whole lot further than I have.  Each
case is different. 
 
Please take care and although I wish this hadn't happened to
you, you are welcome as sunshine to this new family of supporters!
 
Jeanne in Dayton, WA



Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-21 Thread Pieter and Heather
Bernie,

Here is the website that my Physiatrist had me check out before I told him yes 
or no if I was even interested in being tested.  This is the one I have now. 

http://www.walkaide.com/

Heather in Calgary 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80) 
  To: Pieter and Heather ; jrushton ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic 
  Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:37 PM
  Subject: RE: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


  Thanks Heather - I'll try it.
  I'll try anything!

  Barney




--
  From: Pieter and Heather [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:53 PM
  To: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); jrushton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


  Barney,

  I'm using the WalkAide since mid May.  I'm in a 3 (three) year Clinical Trial 
here in Alberta.  Not everyone is able to use it depending on if they can find 
the pathway for the Peroneal nerve.  I was one of 3 out of 13 people they had 
tested when I first got it.  Out of the 13 at the clinic at that time only 3 of 
us turned out to be eligible.  There are probably more now.  It took a while 
for me to get used to it.  At first it stabbed me like a darning needle. But 
eventually they found the right spot and it feels like a river of sensation 
going from the point that electrode contacts the nerve down my leg to my toes.  
It lifts my toes. The biggest advantage I have found is that I do not 
'hip-hike' like I did and my leg is much less tired by the end of the day.  I 
know that in the Orthotist Clinic that I go to they had 2 people with MS, 2 
stroke patients and 2 people with TM at one point.  Worth a try especially if 
it is covered by your insurance or something else.  I know that I only had to 
pay $500. but the price would be about $4500. if I had to pay for it myself.  
When I was 'hip-hiking' so much I found I was getting a cortisone shot in my 
hip every 6 months to alleviate the pain.

  Heather in Calgary 
- Original Message - 
From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80) 
To: jrushton ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


Hi Jeanne - congrats on your progress! - it is also my goal to walk without 
walker. I hope I can but I was diagnosed with MS after TM. My neuro wants me to 
go for an evaluation for walk aide - a gadget you strap to your calf to jolt 
you when you are trying to take a step, and also a new med coming out next year 
- we'll see. First I have to get off my butt  exercise more but in the evening 
I am too pooped from working all day  can't do it in the morning because then 
I'll be too pooped at work!

Barney





From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431


Amanda, you couldn't have come to a better group.  We go clear across the 
chart in where we are in our post TM onset so you will have a lot of support.  
I don't think anyone really knows where each person will be with their TM.  
Some do improve right away, some improve partially from the onset, others take 
longer and then sadly, a few where there aren't many changes from the onset.  

I was totally paralyzed from the chest down and after the first week was 
able to move my left toe.  After three weeks, I was able to sit up and move my 
legs but still could not walk but was determined to get better.  With prayer 
and PT I progressed from a wheelchair full time, to a walker and wheelchair, to 
a wheelchair with shopping and traveling, and now can walk, drive, and get 
around pretty darn well from where I started.  I walk like a drunk and always 
take a cane if I'm going anywhere but by gosh, I can do it!!!  I still don't 
have the feeling back from the chest down even tho I have sensation here and 
there.  There are others who have come a whole lot further than I have.  Each 
case is different. 

Please take care and although I wish this hadn't happened to you, you are 
welcome as sunshine to this new family of supporters!

Jeanne in Dayton, WA

Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-20 Thread JHarper33
Amanda,
 
I also don't have lesions on my spine but was told I had  swelling. You'd 
think that when the swelling went down. everything would go back  to normal, 
but, 
though I did gain back a great deal, I didn't have full  recovery. In an 
informal survey several years ago that the TMA did, about a  third of the 
respondents had no lesions.
 
Don't believe in deadlines!! Many have experienced improvement  even years 
after TM. For me the most improvement came within the first several  months, 
but 
more did come.
 
And it does come verrry slowly. I can remember each week  thinking not much 
was happening, but then when I would look back over several  weeks or months I 
could see significant gains.
 
Are you having physical therapy? That (next to prayer) was the  biggest help 
to me. It is hard to balance pushing yourself yet not overdoing it. 
 
Is Calhoun anywhere near Douglasville? I lived in Douglasville  when I first 
encountered TM, diagnosed By Dr. Richard Bashuk at what was then  Cobb 
Hospital. There is a support group that meets regularly in  Douglasville now -- 
unfortunately I didn't know anyone else there with TM when I  was there, but 
they 
send notices here when they meet.
 
Best wishes for as much recover as possible,
Barbara H.
_http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) 
 
 
In a message dated 11/20/2008 2:19:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

i have a question, has anyone else been told that they don't have  lesions on 
their spine? my neuro says mine is just swelling from c6-t3  and t9-t10., so 
what does that mean? will the swelling go down? will i  be able to recover? i 
am a single mother of two and i really want to be  able to take care of myself 
and my babies. i keep thinking i am not  trying hard enough. i am wheelchair 
bound, and it seems recovery is  happening but very slow. got diagnosed aug. 
11th of this year and was  told i would see most of recovery from 3-6 months. i 
feel like i am on  some deadline and my time to get better will be up soon. i 
am scared and  i am not sure what to do. any advice?
 
thanks
amanda in calhoun,  ga



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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-20 Thread kimr1999






I am in Carrollton and part of the "Douglasville TM" group, we had a meeting last Sunday and trying to figure of a date for December. I will send you a seperate email with our addresses

-- Original message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- 

Amanda,

I also don't have lesions on my spine but was told I had swelling. You'd think that when the swelling went down. everything would go back to normal, but, though I did gain back a great deal, I didn't have full recovery. In an informal survey several years ago that the TMA did, about a third of the respondents had no lesions.

Don't believe in deadlines!! Many have experienced improvement even years after TM. For me the most improvement came within the first several months, but more did come.

And it does come verrry slowly. I can remember each week thinking not much was happening, but then when I would look back over several weeks or months I could see significant gains.

Are you having physical therapy? That (next to prayer) was the biggest help to me. It is hard to balance pushing yourself yet not overdoing it. 

Is Calhoun anywhere near Douglasville? I lived in Douglasville when I first encountered TM, diagnosed By Dr. Richard Bashuk at what was then Cobb Hospital.There is a support group that meets regularly in Douglasville now -- unfortunately I didn't know anyone else there with TM when I was there, but they send notices here when they meet.

Best wishes for as much recover as possible,
Barbara H.
http://barbarah.wordpress.com/


In a message dated 11/20/2008 2:19:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





i have a question, has anyone else been told that they don't have lesions on their spine? my neuro says mine is just swelling from c6-t3 and t9-t10., so what does that mean? will the swelling go down? will i be able to recover? i am a single mother of two and i really want to be able to take care of myself and my babies. i keep thinking i am not trying hard enough. i am wheelchair bound, and it seems recovery is happening but very slow. got diagnosed aug. 11th of this year and was told i would see most of recovery from 3-6 months. i feel like i am on some deadline and my time to get better will be up soon. i am scared and i am not sure what to do. any advice?

thanks
amanda in calhoun, ga


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Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #431

2008-11-20 Thread jrushton
Amanda, you couldn't have come to a better group.  We go clear across the chart 
in where we are in our post TM onset so you will have a lot of support.  I 
don't think anyone really knows where each person will be with their TM.  Some 
do improve right away, some improve partially from the onset, others take 
longer and then sadly, a few where there aren't many changes from the onset.  

I was totally paralyzed from the chest down and after the first week was able 
to move my left toe.  After three weeks, I was able to sit up and move my legs 
but still could not walk but was determined to get better.  With prayer and PT 
I progressed from a wheelchair full time, to a walker and wheelchair, to a 
wheelchair with shopping and traveling, and now can walk, drive, and get around 
pretty darn well from where I started.  I walk like a drunk and always take a 
cane if I'm going anywhere but by gosh, I can do it!!!  I still don't have the 
feeling back from the chest down even tho I have sensation here and there.  
There are others who have come a whole lot further than I have.  Each case is 
different. 

Please take care and although I wish this hadn't happened to you, you are 
welcome as sunshine to this new family of supporters!

Jeanne in Dayton, WA