Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
On 21.6.2020 7:49, t.schie...@startmail.com wrote: > trisquel is dead Trisquel 7 BELANOS forever!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/debian-installer-images/installer-amd64/current/images/SHA256SUMS http://jenkins.trisquel.info/debian-installer-images/installer-amd64/current/images/MD5SUMS
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
Is there a sha256sum, md5sum, and/or gpg signature that I can verify with this image?
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-> trisquel 9.0 amd64 iso hello monk of chaos, motto: nomen est omen such an important aspect as a https-download has been up to this day not been changed. why? by the way: the torrent download would last at least 265 days or something. the default wallpaper of trisquel 9.0 is prophetic: clouds emerging, the doom of an os. and as it always has been: the monks & priests have overseen it until everything tumbles & falls into chaos. trisquel is dead
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Hello chaosmonk & everybody, I shared this thread on Mastodon https://floss.social/@ademalsasa/104380548921528921. For you didn't know, Mastodon is a free software Twitter-like social network and some of us are active there. I wish more people see this awesome discussion!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
connection bug on trisquel_9.0_amd64.iso (version of June 7, 2020) This post to notify you of an internet connection problem; when I indeed surf on the canvas after a certain time no more connection is possible, whatever the site visited: I am therefore obliged to disconnect / reconnect so that it works again (I thought that the problem originated from Technoethical N150 Mini Wi-Fi USB Adapter but by testing the dongle with PureOs I cannot reproduce the problem).
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So, this thread was meant to be an announcement for the ISOs published in December. I did ask for people to report issues with those ISOs here, but I didn't mean for all Trisquel 9 issues over the next 6 months to be dumped into this one thread. To anyone still experiencing an issue with Trisquel 9, I suggest opening a new thread about your specific issue. You will be more likely to have your issue seen by someone who can help, to receive a reply, and then to actually notice that someone has replied to you.
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the same happen on my netbook eeepc 1001px whit atom processor... on the other laptop there is no problems
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There's maybe something with Atom processors and their chipset, because in my HP mini (as stated earlier) the problem is the same and the CPU is intel Atom.
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Hello, I have a problem on my Quest Slimbook plus 14.1 with all beta .iso of Trisquel Mini 9. The boot process can't show the login desktop. A few seconds after the boot process starts I get a black screen with the curser on the top left corner. The Trisquel Mini 8 is booting and working without problems. lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SoC Transaction Register (rev 36) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Configuration Registers (rev 36) 00:03.0 Multimedia controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Imaging Unit (rev 36) 00:0b.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Power Management Controller (rev 36) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series USB xHCI Controller (rev 36) 00:1a.0 Encryption controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Trusted Execution Engine (rev 36) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCU (rev 36)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
There's a new wallpaper on that ISO.
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No, I was using an earlier model, didn't see the new one.
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on my netbook eeepc 1001 px the new trisquel mini 9 iso have the same problems of all the betas (when I select "Try trisquel mini" it hangs before loading a desktop environment with blinking cursor and no error message. Trisquel mini 8 runs fine on the same netbook) Trisquel Mini 8 dist-upgraded to 9 works very well, have only one small problem... in teh settings of PCManFM the single click to open file is lost after every reboot (and become double click to open file)
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Just trying out Triquel 9 on my dell 780, looks good so far-love that Falkon browser is available for install, but it seems to crash quite often, midori as well. Abrowser is working well so far.
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Hello, Tried trisquel mini 9.0. On HP-Mini 110, when I select "Try trisquel mini" it hangs before loading a desktop environment with blinking cursor and no error message. I tried the boot media on the other laptop and it boots fine, although it is with the damned ATI radeon chip, so screen resolution is very low. Strangely, on trisquel 8 the resolution is good, but I don't remember if I had to tamper with it somehow to fix the resolution and I think I had, but don't remember what exactly I did.
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A Wacom tablet (Wacom ONE) does not work with Trisquel 9. It seems that the file "xserver-xorg-input-wacom-hwe-18.04" is broken and cannot be fixed in Synaptic.
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Thanks for your answer, I always use Trisquel Mini 9 on my netbook I think is the best o.s. to use and all is ok with Trisquel Mini 8, the version 9 probably have some bug... I upgrade from Mini 8 to Mini 9 some months ago I ask about the iso just for curiosity... maybe is time to made a new installation
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I think I installed from http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/20200421/trisquel-mini_9.0_amd64.iso Using the "graphical" installer because see first message in this thread. I haven't got a smartphone. If you cannot install Trisquel Mini on your Eeee PC, have you checked if you can install other distros (or use live systems), like Debian LXDE or Debian Xfce?
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< I am now using Trisquel Mini 9 > Please Connochaetes do you install Trisquel Mini 9 from one of the latest iso's? Do you connect your android mobile phone to pcmanfm without problems?
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This time, internet works even though I don't think I restarted!? I have no idea why. After waking up from suspend, I used logout and login AND Magic Banana's command, but it's possible it didn't even need all that, I failed to check. A nice surprise, anyway. I wonder if I can find some consistency. On the other hand, there are still so many things that don't work as I want. Locking doesn't lock, there's a widespread lack of navigation by letter keys (in Trisquel Mini LXDE's main menu and in many programs), a dearth of shortcuts (or shortcuts exist but aren't documented), a general dearth of documentation and explanation beyond what's already obvious from the UI (of the sort "To edit, select 'edit'. This lets you edit."), program features not working as advertised, system freezes. As with many things in life, upgrading to newer software often seems to be one step forward and one backward at the same time.
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I found out that internet does work after waking from hibernation, so I can just hibernate more instead of suspending. Internet still doesn't work after waking from suspension. (Trisquel Mini, updated less than an hour ago) > One of the commands gave an error message, the other didn't. I forgot to copy it, will do next time. None gave an error message this time.
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> I don't remember what it was like when waking from hibernation. Waking from hibernation does prompt. (Trisquel Mini)
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> security issue If nothing else gets done about the desktop visibility thing, I think there should be a warning in a prominent place about this, at least in the release notes. Does it just show the background or does it seem to include panel(s) and open windows?
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> Executing 'systemctl restart networking' or 'systemctl restart NetworkManager' should be enough. Thanks. But no, neither of them did the trick. I tried both commands, first with "Enable Networking" checked and then in between unchecking and checking it, and waited for a few seconds after each try, and checked if the cable was plugged in; I'm using the same connection now, after rebooting, so I'm sure suspending and waking is to blame. It's always the same. One of the commands gave an error message, the other didn't. I forgot to copy it, will do next time.
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Hello, I have a problem on my netbook eeepc 1001px with the latest 2 .iso of Trisquel Mini 9. the .iso can't show the Lxde desktop. During the plymouth I press f2 to read the verbose messages but they are fast to read. The Trisquel Mini 8.0.1.iso boot without problems. I have controlled the shasum256 numbers (the .iso's are o.k. and them boot on my others laptop) and I have used 2 different usb keys. And using Virtualbox I see in Trisquel Mini 9 there is both Calculator and Galculator. Thanks for your work Trisquel team, can't wait to see the new Trisquel 9 official versions
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"Lock screen" on Mini doesn't do anything. No password prompt, no blank screen, no screensaver. This is an installation (so I have set a password) of Trisquel 9 Mini, using LXDE. Waking from suspend doesn't prompt for a password, either. I don't remember what it was like when waking from hibernation. Login, sudo etc. do ask for a password. Is there a command to lock the screen that I could try to check if that works? Thanks in advance.
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> The Sound applet opens, the volume controls slide back and forth, the volume hotkeys on my keyboard also give the indication they are working. But no sound. Install alsa-utils if it is not installed already, and run $ alsamixer Press F6 and select your laptop's sound card. Make sure that the Master volume is unmuted and turned up. With your headphones unplugged, do the same with the Speaker volume. With your headphones plugged in, do the same for the Headphone volume. Then, run $ speaker-test and see if white noise plays. Try this both with and without headphones plugged in. Let me know the results and we'll take it from there.
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I just tried to test qTox on my Etiona install and realized my sound hardware is not working at all. I tried watching a video using invidio.us, nothing I could do would give me sound. The Sound applet opens, the volume controls slide back and forth, the volume hotkeys on my keyboard also give the indication they are working. But no sound.
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> I upgraded from a fresh Trisquel 8 installation. You mean first you tried the graphical installer, it didn't work, and then you upgraded from 8 instead, and that did work? > Suspend does not work well. I am now using Trisquel Mini 9. Suspend works, but after waking it back up, there is no internet connection and I cannot reconnect, so I have to restart (or just re-login? I forgot) to get internet again. Suspending can be useful to let the computer cool down in order to prevent emergency shutdowns from overheating. > There is a bug in the mate panel. When you add a program from the app menu to the bar, the window list disappears. Perhaps what you describe is similar to my earlier problems. Are you sure the window list actually disappeared? Perhaps it just got squished to 1 px size? I'd suggest you try unlocking things to move them back, that helped me. > In some apps eg IceDove the fonts are hard to read. What's good about Trisquel Mini 9 with LXDE is that you can switch off antialiasing (applied only after logging out and back in) and select a font with embedded bitmaps for crisp display, like "Unifont" which comes in one size, or "WenQuanYi Bitmap Song" (package "xfonts-wqy") at size 11, for example. What's bad is that some applications don't obey this setting and still antialias for the non-bitmap sizes. Likewise, many programs – usually those with uniform style, amnesia and poorly accessible, dumbed down menus like Evince, Calculator, Gucharmap – don't obey my widget style setting.
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>> I personally value the freedom to choose what the software I use does, for instance the freedom to turn off any Sync-like functions in my browser. Abrowser already ships with that freedom, so I'm fine with it. > By this logic, the Amazon lens spyware shipped in Ubuntu was not a problem, because Ubuntu shipped with the freedom to turn it off or remove it. This was Ubuntu apologists' excuse at the time, and seems like a pretty shallow understanding of software freedom to me. Since you explicitely allowed me, I might indeed dare to disagree about the alleged logical similarity between the two. The Amazon lens spyware was the very reason why I started to feel something was wrong with Ubuntu, and which pushed me to keep looking for more fitting alternatives. Please tell me if I am wrong about this, but from what I understand the sync option in Firefox/Abrowser does nothing unless you create and activate an account. What I meant by "turning it off" is getting rid of the related buttons and menu items that only clutter the interface since I am not using it, which I personnally do not find to be terribly hurtful. The very difference is whether anything happens before you have the opportunity to make a choice. Or to put it even more simply, sync is no spyware, YMMV. That said, I think we share the same reserves about using sync on a third-party server. > YMMV. Dude. That was a difficult one to get for the old man :D The first example I came by is: "I thought the shaving cream worked really well, but YMMV." Dude.
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> Let's say a member of this community set up a Sync server and invited us all to use it. It would be better if a beginner, using Trisquel for the first time, could switch their Abrowser to using this community-hosted server by making a simple change in the GUI, either in Sync UI itself or somewhere in the Abrowser settings. It should be possible to add an item to about:preferences which provides a more beginner-friendly way to modify `identity.sync.tokenserver.uri`. However, translating the new menu item into every supported language would be non-trivial for us. Perhaps it would be worth a try for you to propose this feature to Mozilla.
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Chaosmonk: > once you have a sync server running you can start using it by editing the "identity.sync.tokenserver.uri" item in about:config. Let's say a member of this community set up a Sync server and invited us all to use it. It would be better if a beginner, using Trisquel for the first time, could switch their Abrowser to using this community-hosted server by making a simple change in the GUI, either in Sync UI itself or somewhere in the Abrowser settings. Boba: > I personally value the freedom to choose what the software I use does, for instance the freedom to turn off any Sync-like functions in my browser. Abrowser already ships with that freedom, so I'm fine with it. By this logic, the Amazon lens spyware shipped in Ubuntu was not a problem, because Ubuntu shipped with the freedom to turn it off or remove it. This was Ubuntu apologists' excuse at the time, and seems like a pretty shallow understanding of software freedom to me. YMMV.
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> For me, this is a freedom issue. In the same way not being able to replace Abrowser as the default web browser in Trisquel would be a freedom issue. Not in the shallower sense of licensing and such, but in the deeper sense that what we value (as I understand it) is the user's freedom to choose what software to use with their system, or not, at all times. In the same way, do we not value the user's freedom to choose what software their system can connect with over a network, or not, at all times? I like the way you keep switching from "I" to a mysterious "we". I personally value the freedom to choose what the software I use does, for instance the freedom to turn off any Sync-like functions in my browser. Abrowser already ships with that freedom, so I'm fine with it. I do not consider freedom as in free software licenses to be a "shallow" sense of freedom, but on the contrary to be the basis of any kind of freedom the user can ultimately benefit from, including what software to choose and what servers they wish to trust, or not.
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> For me, this is a freedom issue. In the same way not being able to replace Abrowser as the default web browser in Trisquel would be a freedom issue. Not in the shallower sense of licensing and such, but in the deeper sense that what we value (as I understand it) is the user's freedom to choose what software to use with their system, or not, at all times. In the same way, do we not value the user's freedom to choose what software their system can connect with over a network, or not, at all times? I like the way you keep switching from "I" to a mysterious "we". I personally value the freedom to choose what the software I use does, for instance the freedom to turn off any Sync-like functions in my browser. Abrowser already ships with that freedom, so I'm fine with it. I do not consider freedom as in free software licenses to be a "shallow" sense of freedom, but on the contrary to be the basis of any kind of freedom the user can ultimately benefit from, including what software to choose and what servers they wish to trust, or not.
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> I suggested in a forum thread a few years ago that the graphical Add/Remove Programs tool needed to only offer a select list of end user apps, which are a) graphical, and b) as user-friendly as the Add/Remove Programs tool itself. If you are writing a custom script for selecting its content, then that would be easier to do. > As mentioned in that older thread, I still think that CLI programs ought to be installable only from a terminal. Would it be possible to write a script that limits the list of programs in Synaptic to those who a GUI? Sorry, I must have missed something here: Synaptic is a package manager, not a Add/Remove program tool for GUI apps. Why should so many packages not be manageable any more through it?
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Am I the only person who has this internet trouble on Trisquel 9? Mullvad seems to concern with this trouble so I sent them a log but since Icedove does not connect to the internet, I would not be able to read the reply, I think, though.
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The above trouble might have been solved. Upgrade seems to be done. Those programs work now. Mullvad also seems to work. But it seems that all internet traffic is cut except of Tor Browser. Apt update, Abrowser, Icedove, Jami, etc do not get internet connection, neither with proxy nor direct (VPN). The internet speed is strangely fast.
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I'm using a LibreBooted T400, and have just done a full system upgrade to 9.0... ...seems to boot slower - not a complaint, really, just an observation. No other issues discovered. I'm happy to report that everything else works right out of the box. Cheers.
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I just upgraded it to Etiona. Several functions/applications do not work (back up, appearance, network ploxy, etc). I have sometimes got some kind of notification that something called KVM conflicts with MATE, while upgrading too. Those are not serious problems for me, though.
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> I forgot to mention, I really like the fact that the Sound applet is now available from 'Sound and Video' in the start menu. Along similar lines, it would be great to have other frequently tweaked config applets available in the relevant menus. For example, perhaps the 'Network Connections' applet could be in 'Internet', and the Display or Screensaver applets in 'Graphics'. I think UI tweaks are probably going to have to wait until Trisquel 10, but I don't think this should be too hard. If I understand correctly, these menu entries already exist, and you just want them to appear in an additional location. Is that right? That's easier than create a new menu entry from scratch because we don't need to worry about translations. Speaking of the menu, for Trisquel 10 I am going to push for making [Brisk Menu][1] the new default. I wanted to do this for Trisquel 9, but until recently Brisk had a bug whereby it could not be fully navigated with the keyboard, making certain UI elements inaccessible to users who can't use a mouse. That bug was fixed recently, too late to make the change for Trisquel 9, but making it an option for Trisquel 10. I think it's a much better menu. > Again, as long as it's possible to choose a different Sync server in the Abrowser GUI, for me that's sufficient to address the network freedom issue. According to [this page][2], once you have a sync server running you can start using it by editing the "identity.sync.tokenserver.uri" item in about:config. > Ideally, I'd like to see the Mozilla Sync client in Abrowser replaced with a P2P system that uses a SyncThing as the back-end. But I realize this would be a major development project in itself. Yes, something like this is out of scope for Trisquel. > Transmission I suggest posting an issue [here][3] to see if upstream is open to such a change. [1]: https://github.com/solus-project/brisk-menu [2]: https://mozilla-services.readthedocs.io/en/latest/howtos/run-sync-1.5.html [3]: https://github.com/transmission/transmission/issues
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I forgot to mention, I really like the fact that the Sound applet is now available from 'Sound and Video' in the start menu. Along similar lines, it would be great to have other frequently tweaked config applets available in the relevant menus. For example, perhaps the 'Network Connections' applet could be in 'Internet', and the Display or Screensaver applets in 'Graphics'. Chaosmonk: > Do you mind double checking if you haven't already? I did. Flidas doesn't scroll like that on Add/Remove Programs on my system. That said, I do tend to do a lot of tweaking after an install to get my touchpad working how I like it, so the scrolling behaviour of my system may not reflect a fresh Flidas install. > I was already considering doing this, and probably will now. Awesome! > since the data is encrypted it is not an issue that it is stored on Mozilla's servers. For me, this is a freedom issue. In the same way not being able to replace Abrowser as the default web browser in Trisquel would be a freedom issue. Not in the shallower sense of licensing and such, but in the deeper sense that what we value (as I understand it) is the user's freedom to choose what software to use with their system, or not, at all times. In the same way, do we not value the user's freedom to choose what software their system can connect with over a network, or not, at all times? Again, as long as it's possible to choose a different Sync server in the Abrowser GUI, for me that's sufficient to address the network freedom issue. Ideally, I'd like to see the Mozilla Sync client in Abrowser replaced with a P2P system that uses a SyncThing as the back-end. But I realize this would be a major development project in itself. > What is the resolution of your netbook? 1024x600
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> But the Transmission window doesn't *need* to be wider than half my netbook screen (thanks to its minimal UI). What is the resolution of your netbook?
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> Would it be possible to add a menu item in a more obvious place that opens the System Monitor to that tab (and maybe a similar item in Control Panel)? A .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ resembling this ``` [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Name=About Trisquel Comment=Trisquel System Information Exec=mate-system-monitor --show-system-tab Icon=start-here Type=Application Categories=Settings;HardwareSettings; OnlyShowIn=MATE; ``` would create a menu entry like the one you describe. However, we'd then need to translate the "Name=" and "Comment=" fields into every language supported by Trisquel. > > Is the behavior different in Flidas? > Yes, otherwise I would not have noticed it, and therefore not commented on it :) Do you mind double checking if you haven't already? I'm looking at a Flidas system right now and the scrolling behavior seems to be what you are describing. I definitely did not intentionally change the scrolling speed. I made many other changes, the largest being Gtk2 -> Gtk3 migration, and it is possible that this could have affected the scrolling speed as a side effect. > As mentioned in that older thread, I still think that CLI programs ought to be installable only from a terminal. Would it be possible to write a script that limits the list of programs in Synaptic to those who a GUI? Yes, that would be very easy to do. I would just need to add a line to the current script to filter out programs whose .desktop files contain "Terminal=True". I was already considering doing this, and probably will now. > Is the software Mozilla uses for this libre? Is there an options in the Sync tool in Abrowser to use a self-hosted server instead of Mozilla's? The [server-side code][1] is free, so self-hosting should be possible in theory. I'm not sure how easy it is to actually configure the browser to use one's self-hosted server. IIRC, the view quidam expressed when we discussed this is that since the data is encrypted it is not an issue that it is stored on Mozilla's servers. [1]: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncserver
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Chaosmonk: > It's in the "MATE System Monitor" under the "System" tab. So it is. I never would have thought to look there. Would it be possible to add a menu item in a more obvious place that opens the System Monitor to that tab (and maybe a similar item in Control Panel)? Maybe under hardware? Could also be something like the 'About Trisquel' menu item I suggested. > Is the behavior different in Flidas? Yes, otherwise I would not have noticed it, and therefore not commented on it :) > This should be fixed before release. Awesome, great work. I suggested in a forum thread a few years ago that the graphical Add/Remove Programs tool needed to only offer a select list of end user apps, which are a) graphical, and b) as user-friendly as the Add/Remove Programs tool itself. If you are writing a custom script for selecting its content, then that would be easier to do. As mentioned in that older thread, I still think that CLI programs ought to be installable only from a terminal. Would it be possible to write a script that limits the list of programs in Synaptic to those who a GUI? > It's possible that Transmission's minimum width is greater than half your screen width, in which case docking wont work. Yes, that's probably the problem. But the Transmission window doesn't *need* to be wider than half my netbook screen (thanks to its minimal UI). How much work would it be to tweak Transmission to allow its window to be smaller (maybe such a fix could be contributed upstream)? > Yes, it works and it uses Mozilla's servers. Is the software Mozilla uses for this libre? Is there an options in the Sync tool in Abrowser to use a self-hosted server instead of Mozilla's? If so, then I guess this is OK. > I proposed this as an alternative to DuckDuckGo, but quidam had concerns about legal liability. Why? Searx is just metasearch. It doesn't store anything locally AFAIK. What about making a community-hosted Searx instance the default search engine? Like search.disroot.org or https://searx.neocities.org/ > These are things quidam would have to decide to change, and he doesn't regularly check the forum. Fair enough, but I presume that those of you who do will pass along ideas you see on the forum, when you think they have legs. > Meetings begin at 16:00 UTC, which I know doesn't work for your timezone, but the discussion typically stretches through the day until around 22:00ish UTC. That's 4-10am my time, literally my sleeping hours ;) Any chance of starting every second meeting a few hours earlier, or later?
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> I can't see any kind of 'system information' in the Control Panel, or anywhere under system. Where do I find a list of my hardware (eg RAM detected, 32-bit vs. 64-bit etc)? It's in the "MATE System Monitor" under the "System" tab. > in Add/Remove programs, using the scroll buttons goes ridiculously slow, but using the mouse to push the scroll bars up and down goes ridiculously fast. Going up and down with the arrow buttons works more smoothly. Is the behavior different in Flidas? > I can't find Jami in Add/Remove programs, not under that name, or under the old "Ring" name. I can't find SyncThing there either. Both are available using sudo apt install from a terminal. This should be fixed before release. The problem is that Add/Remove Applications currently gets its application data from Ubuntu's [app-install-data][1] package (with non-free applications removed), which not only is missing Trisquel-specific packages like Abrowser, but also hasn't been updated since Ubuntu 15.10, so by now the application data does not very accurately reflect what is actually available in Trisquel's repositories. I've been working on a [script][2] to generate our own application data to use instead. It's apparently not in the repo yet, but the script is working. > Transmission still doesn't dock to half the screen when I drag it against the left or right hand side. Try adjusting the width of the window manually and see how small it can go. It's possible that Transmission's minimum width is greater than half your screen width, in which case docking wont work. > The Sync feature in ABrowser still uses the Firefox branding. Does this even work? Does it use Mozilla's servers? Is this something we're comfortable with implicitly endorsing? Yes, it works and it uses Mozilla's servers. I'm personally not comfortable with it, but quidam is and it's his decision. > Goggle appears to be the default search engine in ABrowser. Wouldn't it be better to use something like DuckDuckGo or Ecosia or a Searx instance or something? This is probably a mistake. The default is supposed to be be DuckDuckGo. > Would it be viable to run a Searx instance at search.trisquel.info to be the default search option in Abrowser? Or search.fsf.org, then it could be the default search in IceCat too. I proposed this as an alternative to DuckDuckGo, but quidam had concerns about legal liability. > I see both Eye of Mate and Viewnior under graphics > I see there's no obvious passphrase manager. > I'm not convinced Pidgin is the best choice for default chat app. > Menu Suggestions These are things quidam would have to decide to change, and he doesn't regularly check the forum. If you want them to be addressed, the best way would be to propose them at tomorrow's meeting. Meetings begin at 16:00 UTC, which I know doesn't work for your timezone, but the discussion typically stretches through the day until around 22:00ish UTC. [1]: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/app-install-data [2]: https://devel.trisquel.info/chaosmonk/app-install-data [3]: https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/trisquel-packages/blob/master/9.0/trisquel-meta/debian/control#L70 [4]: https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/trisquel-packages/blob/master/8.0/trisquel-meta/debian/control#L70
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I ran the full-upgrade to Etiona from Flidas (keeping in mind this was a fresh install of Flidas). So far, it seems to be working fine. A few bits of feedback: Things I like: * Still loving the lightweight Mate desktop. It flies on Bishop (a decade old netbook with after-market SSD and 2GB RAM), yet still offers a reasonably full-featured UX. * language support seems to be fully installed by default, instead of asking me to add extra packages the first time I go into the Languages applet in the Control Panel. Same for Personal File Sharing. * the installer still finds my monitor and set it up flawlessly (as far I know ;) with no post-install tweaking required. * I can still ctrl-alt left and right to switch between workspaces, yay! * dragging (most) windows to the right or left of the screen still automatically docks them to that half of the screen. Yay! * Abrowser hasn't crashed on me yet, although I have yet to seriously stress test it. Things that could be improved on: * I can't see any kind of 'system information' in the Control Panel, or anywhere under system. Where do I find a list of my hardware (eg RAM detected, 32-bit vs. 64-bit etc)? * in Add/Remove programs, using the scroll buttons goes ridiculously slow, but using the mouse to push the scroll bars up and down goes ridiculously fast. Going up and down with the arrow buttons works more smoothly. * I can't find Jami in Add/Remove programs, not under that name, or under the old "Ring" name. I can't find SyncThing there either. Both are available using sudo apt install from a terminal. * I see both Eye of Mate and Viewnior under graphics, even though they both seem to do the same task. Isn't it redundant to have both? * I see there's no obvious passphrase manager. So users may still see the built-in password manager in Abrowser as being implicitly endorsed for storing website passwords. I already opened a thread to discuss this. * Transmission still doesn't dock to half the screen when I drag it against the left or right hand side. * The Sync feature in ABrowser still uses the Firefox branding. Does this even work? Does it use Mozilla's servers? Is this something we're comfortable with implicitly endorsing? * Goggle appears to be the default search engine in ABrowser. Wouldn't it be better to use something like DuckDuckGo or Ecosia or a Searx instance or something? * Would it be viable to run a Searx instance at search.trisquel.info to be the default search option in Abrowser? Or search.fsf.org, then it could be the default search in IceCat too. * I'm not convinced Pidgin is the best choice for default chat app. It's never recommended as an XMPP or IRC client by regular users of those networks. I don't think anyone who isn't a retro IM geek is still using any of the legacy nonfree networks it provides connections to. Menu Suggestions: * I've often though it would be useful to have 'About Trisquel' under 'System', giving the Trisquel version and a link to a page with more information about that version. The 'About Mate' pop-up could be triggered from a button on the 'About Trisquel' page. * The number of LibreOffice entries in the "Office" category in the start menu is overwhelming. Wouldn't it be better to have a single entry under "Office" for LibreOffice, which opens up a submenu containing its various tools? * The "Accessories" category in the start menu has a confusing number of items. It seems a bit unclear why some things are launched from there, some from "Other", and some from System. * Some of the items in "Accessories" arguably belong in "Office" (eg Plume, Atril, the calculator), in which there would be more room if you followed the suggestion above about LibreOffice. * I suggest reserving "Accessories" for things like Terminal, Caja, Engrampa, System Monitor, and Screenshot, that users use to carry out tasks, rather than to tweak the system. The rest probably belong somewhere under System (eg Character Map, Onboard, Passwords and Keys). * I would suggest replacing "Other" with a menu for "Accessibility", which can hold the Screen Magnifier, Orca screen reader, etc. That's more than enough for now. I'd do some more playing around tomorrow.
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Me: > If anyone can remind me how to swap out the Flidas software sources for the Etiona ones, so I can try an upgrade, I would appreciate it. Never mind, I found it in this thread, in this comment by MagicBanana:here https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-9-graphical-iso-available-testing?page=1#comment-146596
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I just tried an install of 32-bit Etiona with the default Mate desktop, on Bishop, my decade old Acer Aspire One. Both the live session and the graphical failed, so I went for the test install, forgetting that this would install Flidas. Which it did. If anyone can remind me how to swap out the Flidas software sources for the Etiona ones, so I can try an upgrade, I would appreciate it.
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I checked that link again and found and downloaded a 32-bit ISO. I will have a go at making a boot USB ASAP and try a live session and a test install.
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Might want to have that certificate updated
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I don't think they are final until they are announced at https://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-announce/ But thanks for bringing my attention to a new Trisquel Mini, I shall try it on a laptop prone to overheating due to either the case around the keyboard being slightly detached or a mismatching DC connector plug.
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*excited* So, are the new Iso's RC, Final ? I see there is the Trisquel-mini amongst others... Could someone let me know which Desktop Environment the Mini now uses ? Thanks !!
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I'm only here to say hello Making changes...
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Hello, Thank you Connochaetes for your reminder. I downloaded and made a live USB from new testing Trisquel 9. Checked by md5 checksum. Now, I'm writting this from live testing session. Again spanish language is preinstalled but is not true. I had to deselect and select again to load the spanish language. Then I changed the keyboard layout and is working ok. Mate 1.20 looks cool ! Played default games: ok I Opened many programs at same time: ok I Opened many webpages in abrowser : ok To be continued..
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I don't see any ISOs here for 32-bit CPUs. Will Etiona not support 32-bit?
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Hello Recently, I installed Trisquel 9.0 on my second x200. Everything works out-of-the-box. But I have some remarks: - abrowser is asking to update to version 74, but this is not done due to libnss3 (>= 2:3.47) but 2:3.35-2ubuntu2.7 should be installed, this isn't a great deal, but it is annoying to see 1 update everytime when I run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade - I also use nextcloud, but it isn't available. I assume it is because of this package qt5-webengine, is there a possibility to create a nextcloud-client version without qt5-webengine? (like Parabola did)[1] - also 3 missing plugin packages: webext-https-everywhere, webext-noscript, webext-ublock-origin. Are those going to be added? If not they can be added via abrowser extension tab. I also tried mini.iso, but that one didn't worked, when choosing the desktop environment, it keeps failing, without debug info. -- [1]: https://www.parabola.nu/packages/libre/x86_64/nextcloud-client/
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Any update on what roadblocks are still preventing the release of Etiona? The Ubuntu base on Belenos has already hit EOL, and the base of Flidas is due to EOL next year. It's pretty crucial to get a stable Etiona release shipped well before that happens, to give users time to transition.
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Connochaetes, thanks for the reminder. I uploaded the ISO and other files here. Unmodified but check the hash if you use the linked files. https://kaspian.kapsi.fi/trisquel/t9/ Or batch download with wget from the original location. wget -i t9.txt
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I haven't seen any mention of the latest ISO, so here goes: http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/ Thank you! As earlier, Torrent doesn't seem to work.
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Following hints from an unrelated thread (1), I noticed that the output of 'xinput list-props' has very different entries on T8 and on T9. I thought I could simply use the same settings on T9 and T8 but because of this situation I am still somehow stuck in the middle of the touchpad settings. For now I have a choice between: 1. slow and somehow accurate and 2. fast enough but quite inaccurate nearby the target. I am not sure to be able to find a way to strike the right balance, so I wonder if there is a possibility to tweak it and come "back" to way the touchpad used to be managed in T8. (1) https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libreboot-t400-minifree-reduces-price-once-again#comment-116782
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Since there is a Triskel ISO, I hope there will be a GNOME ISO.
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On 2/16/20 2:07 AM, edwardtf...@protonmail.com wrote: > Trisquel GNU/Linux 9.0 [the name of PC] tty1 Your hostname is sensitive information? Perhaps you should have chosen a better hostname. It is usually broadcasted on whatever network you are connected to. Hostnames are intended to be known and seen by others. cal@bender -- Caleb Herbert cal@bender.local (816) 892-9669 https://bluehome.net/csh
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Wow! I just typed reboot after full dist-upgrade and it rebooted back into my beautiful Mate environment with everything working again! I am happy! riseup installed fine but does not connect it close with error exit 1.
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Ok. I put with echo into sources list all repos back and it showed some possible upgrade again. I started upgrade in hope to upgrade the mate desktop so that it fully apply. And after a night of upgrade it stuck and I had to press the switch button. Now when I try to boot the comp trisquel 9 demands login and password that I never had. This I see in grub: Trisquel GNU/Linux 9.0 [the name of PC] tty1 [the name of PC] login: and it waits. I never had any login anywhere. I don't know any login. What do I do?
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I see a few problems: * All of the repositories are commented out. You need to remove the `# ` from the repositories you want to use, or they will be ignored. * `deb-src` lines are for downloading source packages. In order to be able to download and install binary packages, you need to change `deb-src` to `deb`. If you want to be to download both binaries *and* sources, then duplicate the lines and in the copied lines change `deb-src` to `deb`. * In the torproject line, you should probably change `xenial` to `bionic`, since Trisquel 9 is based on Ubuntu 18.04 bionic.
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I also noted all repos of etonia disapeared from Software Updates and I can't add them. Also all authentication keys disapeared or I can't see them (desktop is not fully running: white text on white background many times, no ability to differentiate flag on and flag off). Please help me.
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I updgraded to trisquel 9 with Software Updater program. It upgraded but as I logged again I got some problems. My beautiful custom theme went away. Trisquel button for main menu changed. Appearence does not open with error that mate-settings-daemon is not running, text of the error: Unable to start the settings manager 'mate-settings-daemon'. Without the MATE settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with DBus, or a non-MATE (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the MATE settings manager. while when trying to run it from terminal: $ mate-settings-daemon (mate-settings-daemon:1992): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: 12:03:29.719: Settings schema 'org.mate.interface' does not contain a key named 'can-change-accels' Trace/breakpoint trap I successfully installed riseup-vpn on 64bit since you change Ubuntu 16.04 to Ubuntu 18.04 thanks a lot. But it does not run. If running from terminal: $ riseup-vpn riseup-vpn: symbol lookup error: riseup-vpn: undefined symbol: gtk_shortcuts_window_get_type
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Okay, I was wrong. The [bionic repository][1] only includes packages for bitmask-vpn, not riseup-vpn. The [buster repository][2] does include riseup-vpn, so that's what you need. Note however, that there is only a 64-bit binary package for riseup-vpn. There is [no 32-bit package][3], so if you have a 32-bit system you're out of luck, unless you compile the program yourself. [1]: http://deb.leap.se/client/dists/release/bionic/binary-amd64/Packages [2]: http://deb.leap.se/client/dists/release/buster/binary-amd64/Packages [3]: http://deb.leap.se/client/dists/release/buster/binary-i386/Packages signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Yes, I always use sudo apt update and it never gave any error, it says: Hit:1 http://deb.leap.se/client release InRelease (and other hits) But as far as I try to install riseup: sudo apt install riseup-vpn leap-archive-keyring it says E: Unable to locate package riseup-vpn
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Try running $ sudo apt dist-upgrade if you have not already. > deb http://deb.leap.se/client release bionic This is correct. Did you run `sudo apt update` after editing `leap.list` before trying to install the package?
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Please help. I tried to install trisquel 9 64bit on another machine the same way as I installed Mini with repositories given here https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-9-mini-my-install-and-some-doubt#comment-146000 And it did not work. The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnupg : Breaks: python-apt (= 4.4.0~beta2) but it is not going to be installed ure : Breaks: libreoffice-core (< 1:5.3.0~beta1~) but 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial10 is to be installed When trying to install libreoffice-core: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnupg : Breaks: python-apt (
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Thanks. Can you now post the contents of `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/leap.list` and see if there are any errors when you run $ sudo apt update ?
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$ ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ leap.list $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial main # deb-src https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial main deb https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ etiona main # deb-src https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ etiona main deb https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ etiona-security main # deb-src https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ etiona-security main deb https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ etiona-updates main # deb-src https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ etiona-updates main deb https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ etiona-backports main # deb-src https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ etiona-backports main
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Did you add Riseup's apt repository? What is the output of $ ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
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Thanks all! I successfully upgraded. Unfortunately riseup-vpn again does not install with the same mistake when installing from debian package as it did in trisquel 8: can't locate riseup-vpn. Mini 9 i386 works very fine. Wine, all mate environment utilities as in standard, icecat, tor browser, SQLite and libreoffice work very well, with as little as 2GB RAM. Thank developers for great job! Please never discontinue Mini and i386.
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The touchpad feels less precise on Trisquel 9 than on Trisquel 8 (to the same user on the same machine). I have noticed a (slight) difference in the mouse settings: on T8 the acceleration and sensivity settings were only available on the "General" tab while on T9 the two cursors are available in both the "General" and the "Touchpad" tabs. Maybe this is the reason why the same settings in the "General" tab do not feel the same on T8 and on T9. I have not managed yet to find the correct balance. Is there some work in progress on this configuration tool?
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hello, I upgrade Trisquel Mini 8 to 9 changing the sources.list from flidas to etiona and all went well
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I trust that you backup your home directory before any upgrade, so a fresh install does not make much difference except being faster, easier and somehow cleaner. That is what I do and I find Trisquel to be particularly fast to install.
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Will it be possible to migrate from Trisquel 8 to Trisquel 9? Without wiping disk and loosing existing data. Thank you.
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Hi again, there is already a couple of changes meant to fix this issue, hopefully the next ISO will have this issue fixed. Cheers!
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Thank you!
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Thanks for the report, will look into it.
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The replacement is already developed, hopefully it will be in the next ISO.
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I decided to give the new Trisquel 9 graphical live system a spin, and found that the orca screen reader will not start. First, I tried waiting about 10 minutes after boot, thinking it might start in the manner to which I'm accustomed in Trisquel. When nothing seemed to happen, I ticked the volume controls on my keyboard, and heard the 'opop' sounds, thereby confirming that the audio system is working. I typed the orca command "/usr/bin/orca --setup" into the 'run' dialogue, and heard nothing. Next, I tested the tts system, and found that it's working. Finally, I opened a mate terminal and gave the command, "which orca", and got "/usr/bin/orca", which showed that the binary is in the proper place. I used the ocr feature in my smart phone to learn this. Finally, I ran orca from the terminal and heard errors regarding something called canbera being missing, and something about unable to start gtk dialog without a parent. Again, using my phone's ocr features and tts. BTW, this activity was all on bare metal. Thanks, -Dave H.
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I cannot find the "Add software shortcut" on Trisquel 9 Application menu. Of course I can add software through the terminal or Synaptic, but that shorcut was quite helpful. Am I missing something?
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Logged out, logged in, now both clocks show the correct time.
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On issue no. 24 (and possibly also related to issue no. 21 in this this post): Trisquel 9 has a clock in the panel by default, and you can add a different clock in any panel (open panel's context menu → Add to Panel…). Appending --timezone=Europe/Berlin before starting the live system does not seem to make any difference, both clocks will show UTC despite internet connection. In Trisquel's default clock, changing the time zone (click on clock with primary mouse button → Time & Date Settings…) does not affect the time shown by the clock, at least not when using a live ISO instead of installed Trisquel. Clock will still display UTC. In the separate clock which you can manually add, changing the time zone by changing the "location" (click on clock with either mouse button) does correctly change the time shown by the clock. I don't know if there are reasons to prefer the current default clock (for example, no leak of location because it does not fetch weather data?); if not, I would suggest making the other clock the default one.
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Thank you!
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> TLDR: No, it looks like Debian doesn't handle my bad graphics card any > better. Nothing for Trisquel 9 to learn from Debian here. Sorry about that. AMD graphics cards are often a problem. I recently acquired four used laptops for quite cheap ($40 each). I take opportunities like this when the come up, so that I can install GNU/Linux on them and loan/give them to people who are interested in trying it out but not ready to mess with the software on their current machine. Unfortunately, two of these laptops have AMD GPUs, and because they are not fully supported by the free drivers, video playback is very laggy and choppy, giving the impression that the computer is slow when it is otherwise fine. Since the GPU is no longer sold by AMD, they no longer maintain their proprietary drivers, so even a user willing to compromise on freedom to better support their hardware does not have a choice to do so. This is why relying on freedom-hostile hardware is risky. > As you suggested, I wanted to use lspci to test Debian's recognition > of my graphics card, but the Terminal did not know that command, apt > knew no such package, and neither did Synaptic For future reference, when you are not sure which package provides a particular command, you can go to pacakges.ubuntu.com (or packages.debian.org in the case of Debian), and search by package contents for the name of the command. For example, searching for lspci on packages.debian.org reveals that the lspci command is provided by the "pciutils" pacakge. https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=buster=any=exactfilename=contents=lspci signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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TLDR: No, it looks like Debian doesn't handle my bad graphics card any better. Nothing for Trisquel 9 to learn from Debian here. I tried an Xfce-flavoured Debian live ISO, and apparently my graphics card, Debian and my monitor did not get along too well with each other. Screen resolution fell far behind the monitor's native resolution. If you are reading this on the Trisquel website (as opposed to the mailing list), see the screenshot. I have not shrunk the screenshot, what you see is the original resolution; it showed vertically stretched across my monitor's height, but did not match that horizontally, resulting in the globe logo losing its circular shape, for example. It was worse than any distro I've tried, including the three versions of Trisquel that I've used. As you suggested, I wanted to use lspci to test Debian's recognition of my graphics card, but the Terminal did not know that command, apt knew no such package, and neither did Synaptic; Synaptic did offer the usual plethora of installable packages. When I came back to the computer after a break of a couple of minutes, I think the screen was black and unresponsive, so I ended my experiment there. I hope the absence of lspci is not because I chose a wrong flavour of Debian. I had first tried the "standard" flavour which confronted me with a command line; I did not know what to do, and tried Xfce instead. I assume "standard" does not include a desktop environment.
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Flashed the ISO using the terminal method described in the documentation. When trying to boot into the "Try Trisquel without installing" option, I get presented with a blank screen and blinking underscore. Flashed the ISO twice to check whether this was an issue the first time around, but the issue persists. I suspect this might have something to do with section 3 here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it/162076#162076 The laptop is MacBook 2,1, so this has nothing to do with the nonexistent UEFI. Ready to investigate with further guidance!
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I tried LiveCD session of Trisquel 9.0 amd64 and it works without problem for me. MATE desktop works as I want, internet works (from a USB mifi), browser works, file manager works & can access disk partitions just well, installing programs also works well from archive.trisquel.info server. My system is Intel Pentium 967 1.3GHz 4GB RAM with the bootable SanDisk usb flash drive 32GB. Thank you all Trisquel Developers! However, I didn't install that T9 yet. And I am really surprised to see Triskel, the KDE edition, is available. I have seen the manifest file and it says Plasma version 5.12 within. This is amazing.
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Triskel.
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A Triskel ISO? Wow. Triskel is Trisquel with KDE Plasma. <>
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
Hi All ! Brilliant news about the 9.0 iso's, thanks to everyone involved. Just spotted new Iso's from 17 and 18/01/2020... One is called Triskel, the other Trisquel ? Are these 'beta' already ? I tried the iso from december, but the graphical install failed, however, had no problems running it live. Are there major changes between the Iso's ? Thanks
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
> 3. The program torbrowser-launcher does not work by default. I had to > follow the steps below to get it working. Sorry, this is a wontfix. Since it's a downloader instead of a proper package, quidam does not want to include it in Trisquel at all. I think I can fix the compton thing, but I don't have the energy to do it right now. Remind me if I don't get back to you in the next few days. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
On 1/14/20 6:00 PM, 985b07e1-d17e-4254-93a2-fb084a765...@anonaddy.me wrote: > I2P Browser is another firefox based browser Wow, I didn't know I2P had their own browser now, too. <>
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
I2P Browser is another firefox based browser and adding the following fixes the shadow issue: --shadow-exclude "class_g = 'I2P Browser' && argb" \
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
I was able to find the script that is launching compton. It is /usr/bin/marco-compton. I was able to insert the following into it: --shadow-exclude "class_g = 'Tor Browser' && argb" \ --shadow-exclude "class_g = 'Abrowser' && argb" \ --shadow-exclude "class_g = 'Icedove' && argb" \ --shadow-exclude "class_g = 'IceCat' && argb" \ I noticed that specifying Tor Browser fixed ALL of the menus and addon dropdowns in Tor Browser and not just the main menu.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Graphical ISO available for testing
> 1. I can confirm that settings fixes the issue. Adding the following > onto the default compton command resolves this issue with the > transparent box around the menus: --shadow-exclude "class_g = > 'Firefox' && argb" --shadow-exclude "class_g = 'Abrowser' && argb" > --shadow-exclude "class_g = 'Icedove' && argb" --shadow-exclude > "class_g = 'IceCat' && argb" > > This fixes the issue in Abrowser, Icedove, IceCat and Tor Browser. If > there are any more firefox based applications they may need to be > added to this. Where can I make changes to the default compton > script? I don't believe that /etc/compton.conf is used since the > running process has this in the command: --config /dev/null Firefox, Abrowser, and IceCat are already addressed in the default compton.conf,[1] and I can add Icedove. So we just need to figure out why /etc/compton.conf isn't being used. Do you experience this issue when you run $ compton-launcher ? That's the script that's supposed to launch compton on startup, and it appears to specify /etc/compton.conf as the config file unless ~/.config/compton.conf is present.[2] > 3. I tested torbrowser-launcher from the PPA and it works exactly as > expected with no issues. Okay, merging [3] will import the PPA's version to Trisquel. I will run it by quidam at the next meeting. > 4. Here is a bug report for this package in Ubuntu 18.04: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl2/+bug/1775067 Thanks. It looks like that issue was never resolved in Ubuntu, nor was it resolved upstream,[4] although a potential fix was discussed. It's not immediately clear to me how we could fix this on our end. I'd need to understand the issue better. [1] https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/etiona/helpers/DATA/compton/compton.conf#L93 [2] https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/etiona/helpers/DATA/compton/compton-launcher [3] https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/merge_requests/283 [4] https://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4218
