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On 21/10/09 23:26, Tony Pursell wrote:
 On 21 Oct 2009 at 22:29, LeeGroups wrote:

 That page got right up my nose

 --
 Firstly, computer program isn't spelt programme, that would be a
 television programme.

Not to be picky but spelt is a type of wheat grain used to make flour 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt).

A word is 'spelled' incorrectly.

And in this sentence:

Given Dells position in the market place and it's support of Ubuntu, 
the contents of this page appear to be somewhat skewed in Microsofts 
direction.

Dells should be Dell's, it's should be its[1] and Microsofts should be 
Microsoft's.

If you are going to criticise spelling I would suggest getting your own 
in order would lend more weight to your argument.

Al

[1] http://www.future-perfect.co.uk/grammartips/grammar-tip-its.asp


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] linux viruses

2009-10-22 Thread Paul Roach

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org wrote:

 2009/10/21 Peter Adam Kelly pe...@thatwilldo.com:
  Thanks loads for the info,
 
  I am brushing up on my knowledge of network security, I have some Ubuntu
  dedicated and VPS servers and of course I want them as strong as can be,
 any
  more links or info would be appreciated.
 
  Cheers


A couple of other pointers - if running PHP consider using the suhosin patch
- and for other public facing servers test their vulnerability using
Nessus/Nikto etc (I believe this has recently been mentioned in another post
of the list - although it might have been a different list).

You might also want to consider routing syslogs to another box.  That way,
if a machine is compromised, the logs are not at as much risk.

Needless to say, only permit traffic to hosts from the boxes that need
access - not so good for webservers, but if you're running private
webservers it's often possible to only permit access to these from hosts
that you approve of.

If possible, only permit key based login using SSH as well - this will
completely remove the risk of password based attacks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread Thomas Ibbotson

Alan Bell wrote:
 Paul Sutton wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Linux got a mention on the lunch time news,  well it showed tux, and the
 google and apple logos, as alternatives,  but didn't say much about em
   
 well it is Microsoft's big day (well it is tomorrow, they seem to have 
 jumped the gun slightly) so it is natural they are talking about it. We 
 too are celebrating the launch of Windows 7 with a special upgrade 
 promotion. http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com/windows-7-upgrade-promotion
 Next week with the launch of Karmic Koala is the time to talk about 
 Linux, hopefully the BBC will join in the conversation.

Quoting from the website:
-Spend lots of money for Windows 7 for every computer in your organisation,
-First you will need to take very careful backups of everything (not 
just files but emails, favourites, settings etc),
-Format your machine's hard disk and install Windows 7 as a fresh 
installation,
-Then you'll have to find those drivers for your hardware (if they 
exist) and install them,
-Re-install all your application software (if it still works on Windows 
7 and you have the CDs and license keys etc),
-Activate and register your computer on your network,
-Copy back all that carefully backed up data and make sure it goes into 
the right places.

It seems to me that you are suggesting that these steps would not be 
necessary with Ubuntu, but if you were to migrate to Ubuntu from Windows 
XP you would still have to perform steps 2,3,5,6?? and 7. With the added 
problems of trying to import your data to new, different programs and 
learning an unfamiliar desktop environment.

I'm all for Ubuntu and FOSS, but this just struck me as a bit dishonest. 
  I'll just go and get my ceramic shield

Tom

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread Thomas Ibbotson

Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 On 21/10/09 23:26, Tony Pursell wrote:
 On 21 Oct 2009 at 22:29, LeeGroups wrote:
 That page got right up my nose

 --
 Firstly, computer program isn't spelt programme, that would be a
 television programme.
 
 Not to be picky but spelt is a type of wheat grain used to make flour 
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt).
 
 A word is 'spelled' incorrectly.
 
 And in this sentence:
 
 Given Dells position in the market place and it's support of Ubuntu, 
 the contents of this page appear to be somewhat skewed in Microsofts 
 direction.
 
 Dells should be Dell's, it's should be its[1] and Microsofts should be 
 Microsoft's.
 
 If you are going to criticise spelling I would suggest getting your own 
 in order would lend more weight to your argument.
 
 Al
 
 [1] http://www.future-perfect.co.uk/grammartips/grammar-tip-its.asp
 
 

Now everyone replying to this thread will be ultra-self-conscious about 
their spelling (and grammar) -- lol.

Tom

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] linux viruses

I think you meant users tend to be logged in as a normal user instead 
of root, so it's much harder...

Otherwise, being logged in as root all the time does give access to 
system files, which Linux is good at protecting by not having a user 
logged in as root, compared to Windows, where a user is encouraged (at 
least in the past, not sure about Windows 7) to be an Administrator so 
that they can run all the software, as they do not know how to get some 
software running as a non-Adminstrator user (e.g. file defragmentation, 
some games).


David King


Tony Arnold wrote:
 The other is that users
 tend to be logged in as root all the time, so it's much harder to
 compromise system files, although some argue the users' data is still
 vulnerable which is much more valuable than the system stuff.

   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

That's a good way to describe it -- Software with Secrets. Including a 
backdoor so that US govt agencies can spy on you, as well as the WGA 
tool to report back any activity on your PC to Microsoft.


David King



alan c wrote:


 Not least, Windows is Software with Secrets!
 That regime is not for me, at any price, thanks.
   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread Alan Pope

2009/10/22 David King linux...@avoura.com:
 That's a good way to describe it -- Software with Secrets. Including a
 backdoor so that US govt agencies can spy on you,

[[citation needed]]

 as well as the WGA
 tool to report back any activity on your PC to Microsoft.


[[citation needed]]

I'd be interested in seeing proof of those two statements..

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

On 22/10/09 08:54, Thomas Ibbotson wrote:
 Alan Bell wrote:
 Paul Sutton wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Linux got a mention on the lunch time news,  well it showed tux, and the
 google and apple logos, as alternatives,  but didn't say much about em

 well it is Microsoft's big day (well it is tomorrow, they seem to have
 jumped the gun slightly) so it is natural they are talking about it. We
 too are celebrating the launch of Windows 7 with a special upgrade
 promotion. http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com/windows-7-upgrade-promotion
 Next week with the launch of Karmic Koala is the time to talk about
 Linux, hopefully the BBC will join in the conversation.

 Quoting from the website:
 -Spend lots of money for Windows 7 for every computer in your organisation,
 -First you will need to take very careful backups of everything (not
 just files but emails, favourites, settings etc),
 -Format your machine's hard disk and install Windows 7 as a fresh
 installation,
 -Then you'll have to find those drivers for your hardware (if they
 exist) and install them,
 -Re-install all your application software (if it still works on Windows
 7 and you have the CDs and license keys etc),
 -Activate and register your computer on your network,
 -Copy back all that carefully backed up data and make sure it goes into
 the right places.

 It seems to me that you are suggesting that these steps would not be
 necessary with Ubuntu, but if you were to migrate to Ubuntu from Windows
 XP you would still have to perform steps 2,3,5,6?? and 7. With the added
 problems of trying to import your data to new, different programs and
 learning an unfamiliar desktop environment.

Well no it isn't quite the same.

2. When installing Ubuntu on an existing computer does offer to import 
the majority of a Windows XP's system settings and your data.

3. It does not require you to format the hdd, it will offer to make 
space and repartition the drive for you and run alongside Windows.

5. Most widely used apps are pre-installed on Ubuntu and there is no 
digging around for Cds and license keys etc.

6. There is no Activiation or registration required with Ubuntu.

7. See 2.

 I'm all for Ubuntu and FOSS, but this just struck me as a bit dishonest.
I'll just go and get my ceramic shield

It isn't dishonest in the slightest. If you upgrade from Vista to 
Windows 7 then you can do an in-situ upgrade. But from XP it is a royal 
PITA. That's why Gartner (who tend to be pro MS) even found it will cost 
a *lot* to actually do the upgrade.

HTH

Alan


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

On 22/10/09 09:22, Alan Pope wrote:
 2009/10/22 David Kinglinux...@avoura.com:
 That's a good way to describe it -- Software with Secrets. Including a
 backdoor so that US govt agencies can spy on you,

 [[citation needed]]

There was a story (poss. last year or earlier) about a FBI(or Police) 
conference in the US where MS apparently handed out a USB key to all 
delegates that had backdoors into Windows. If I get chance I'll try to 
search for it.


 as well as the WGA
 tool to report back any activity on your PC to Microsoft.


 [[citation needed]]

 I'd be interested in seeing proof of those two statements..

 Cheers,
 Al.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread Alan Pope

2009/10/22 Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com:
There was a story (poss. last year or earlier) about a FBI(or Police)
conference in the US where MS apparently handed out a USB key to all
delegates that had backdoors into Windows. If I get chance I'll try to
search for it.

Interesting, I'd not heard about that. Google turned up this:-

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080429/095514977.shtml

Apparently, they're giving out special USB keys that simply get
around Microsoft's security, allowing the holder of the key to very
quickly get forensic information (including internet surfing history),
passwords and supposedly encrypted data off of a laptop.

...

Update: Some folks in the comments, and Ed Bott, claim that this post
is a misreading of the original story. The USB key includes a bunch of
standard tools, not access to a backdoor. The confusion, on my part,
was due to the original article claiming that the device can decrypt
passwords and analyze a computer's Internet activity, as well as data
stored in the computer. In saying so, it appeared that the device
must have access to a backdoor to decrypt the password -- but an
update claims that it's merely password security auditing
technologies.

Which could be achieved with one of many Linux based Live CDs or USB keys:-

http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/10-best-security-live-cd-distros-pen-test-forensics-recovery/

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party

2009-10-22 Thread Lucy

Yep, and I'm even organising cake again :)

Please bring yourself, your friends and CDs, etc. And tell as many
people as you can!!

2009/10/22 Jon Spriggs j...@spriggs.org.uk:
 There is indeed wifi. It's all confirmed, and I'll even be there! :)
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 2009/10/22 Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com:
 So is this all confirmed then? And will there be Wi-Fi?


 2009/10/17 Gordon Allott gord.all...@canonical.com

 On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 16:54 +0100, Lucy wrote:

  That looks brilliant. Thank you! I think 6pm is fine for the time.
 
  The text looks slightly pixelated but that might just be my computer.
 
  Do you have the source? It might be nice to make a button for people's
  blogs..
 

 Source, Pdf and Png. png is nice and anti-aliased. dunno why the pdf
 isn't :(

 http://showsite-media.gordallott.com/stuff/koalareleaseparty.pdf
 http://showsite-media.gordallott.com/stuff/koalaReleaseParty-embed.png
 http://showsite-media.gordallott.com/stuff/koalaReleaseParty-embed.svg

 as the name suggests, i *think* that the svg has the bitmap bits embeded
 in it but not 100% on that


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[ubuntu-uk] Karmic RC updates

2009-10-22 Thread Nick

Hi Guys,

Anybody got an idea when the Karmic RC update files will hit the repo's,
I am running the beta and expected a large update today, but as of 14:21
there are no updates yet.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic RC updates

2009-10-22 Thread Nick

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 14:43 +0100, James Westby wrote:
 On Thu Oct 22 14:22:39 +0100 2009 Nick wrote:
  Anybody got an idea when the Karmic RC update files will hit the repo's,
  I am running the beta and expected a large update today, but as of 14:21
  there are no updates yet.
 
 I think you misunderstand the process somewhat.
 
 We slow down updates when trying to release a snapshot, releasing a known
 good state from a moving target is very difficult.
 
 Releasing something solid isn't going to happen by dropping all the changes
 in at the last minute.
 
 We froze for RC last Thursday, and have been working to fix critical bugs
 since then. We are going through the last steps of testing all the images
 and checking all is ready, and then the RC will be released. Therefore
 if you are up to date it is likely that you are running what will be
 released as the RC. Until the release is announced we may find a critical
 problem and have to start over again though.
 
 So, looking for a large number of updates is the wrong thing to do, you
 should really be looking for the point when everything stops :-).
 
 We'll be doing all this testing over again on Tuesday/Wednesday next
 week, and anyone is welcome to help with that. It's not that difficult,
 and really helps the process run smoothly, plus, you can have the final
 release images before anyone else :-). See
 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures
 
 for information on how to help.
 
 Thanks,
 
 James

Thanks James/Chris,

Well, the good news is that the Netbook Remix Beta runs remarkably well
on my obscure Toshiba NB100 notebook :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread David Restall - System Administrator

Hi,

 Alan Lord (News) wrote:
  On 21/10/09 23:26, Tony Pursell wrote:
  On 21 Oct 2009 at 22:29, LeeGroups wrote:
  That page got right up my nose
 
  --
  Firstly, computer program isn't spelt programme, that would be a
  television programme.
  
  Not to be picky but spelt is a type of wheat grain used to make flour 
  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt).
  
  A word is 'spelled' incorrectly.

Speaking as an old fuddy-duddy who bemoans the practice of not pulling
up poor spelling at skool :-)

People should be wary of quoting an encyclopedia when they should
be consulting a dictionary... :-

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/spell_1?view=uk

which is almost verbatim what my paper Concise OED says.

Spelt is spelt correctly and used correctly.

I'll agree with the dodgy apostrophes though :-)

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  And in this sentence:
  
  Given Dells position in the market place and it's support of Ubuntu, 
  the contents of this page appear to be somewhat skewed in Microsofts 
  direction.
  
  Dells should be Dell's, it's should be its[1] and Microsofts should be 
  Microsoft's.
  
  If you are going to criticise spelling I would suggest getting your own 
  in order would lend more weight to your argument.
  
  Al
  
  [1] http://www.future-perfect.co.uk/grammartips/grammar-tip-its.asp
  
  
 
 Now everyone replying to this thread will be ultra-self-conscious about 
 their spelling (and grammar) -- lol.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread Christopher Swift

2009/10/22 Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com:
 On 21/10/09 23:26, Tony Pursell wrote:
 On 21 Oct 2009 at 22:29, LeeGroups wrote:

 That page got right up my nose

 --
 Firstly, computer program isn't spelt programme, that would be a
 television programme.

 Not to be picky but spelt is a type of wheat grain used to make flour
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt).

 A word is 'spelled' incorrectly.

 And in this sentence:

 Given Dells position in the market place and it's support of Ubuntu,
 the contents of this page appear to be somewhat skewed in Microsofts
 direction.

 Dells should be Dell's, it's should be its[1] and Microsofts should be
 Microsoft's.

 If you are going to criticise spelling I would suggest getting your own
 in order would lend more weight to your argument.

 Al

 [1] http://www.future-perfect.co.uk/grammartips/grammar-tip-its.asp


 --
Alan, since we've gone onto the topic of both spelling and grammar,
you will find that according to the Oxford English Dictionary, the
past participle of the verb to spell is indeed spelt.  We are not
living in America on this thread.  View here as an example of the
usage of the verb to spell in the past particple.
http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwords/palindromes?view=uk

I do agree however with the points regarding apostrophes.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

On 22/10/09 16:28, Christopher Swift wrote:
snip /
 --
 Alan, since we've gone onto the topic of both spelling and grammar,
 you will find that according to the Oxford English Dictionary, the
 past participle of the verb to spell is indeed spelt.  We are not
 living in America on this thread.  View here as an example of the
 usage of the verb to spell in the past particple.
 http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwords/palindromes?view=uk

 I do agree however with the points regarding apostrophes.

Thanks for pointing out my error and please accept my humble apologies.

As has been mentioned on IRC I probably spend too much time around 
yanks/reading American docs.

Al



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread jim.cameron

Tony Pursell:
 Use of the word 'program'  for computer program was in a book
 I used to have with a title something like 'British Standard
 Terms in Data Processing', published by the BSI back in
 the1960s!.  And people still get it wrong...

I remember correcting my primary school teacher on this point in about
1980. It's a common problem with texts localised from the US,
though--they tend to replace 'program' with 'programme' globally, not
realising that UK English has adopted the American spelling in the
specific sense of a computer program.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic RC updates

2009-10-22 Thread Harry Rickards

2009/10/22 Nick n...@jonick.net:
 On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 14:43 +0100, James Westby wrote:
snip

 Well, the good news is that the Netbook Remix Beta runs remarkably well
 on my obscure Toshiba NB100 notebook :-)

 Regards,

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+1. I tried out Ubuntu Netbook Remix and it felt as though it was just
a launcher forced over the desktop. Even since the early Alpha's, UNR
9.10 has been a pretty much seamless experience for me on me EEE 701.
The only problem I encountered was FreeCiv not fitting on the tiny 7
screen, but that was fixed by using the SDL client instead (and yes,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic RC updates

2009-10-22 Thread Harry Rickards

2009/10/22 Harry Rickards ha...@linux.com:
snip
 The only problem I encountered was FreeCiv not fitting on the tiny 7
 screen, but that was fixed by using the SDL client instead (and yes,
 there is already a bug filed).


For anyone who's got the same problem package numbers are
freeciv-client-gtk (the one that *doesn't* work) and
freeciv-client-sdl (the one that *does* work).

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[ubuntu-uk] OO Calc to Evolution

2009-10-22 Thread Dianne Reuby

I'm trying to transfer a list of names and email addresses from Open
Office Calc to Evolution email.

I'm converting to .csv - the file converts back OK to two columns when I
open it in Open Office, but when I import it into Evolution, the names
and emails are all in one field.

My settings are UTC-8, comma delimeter (though I've tried tab and
space!) so I've got something wrong, and I hope you experts can tell me
what. :)

Thanks
Dianne


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OO Calc to Evolution

2009-10-22 Thread Dianne Reuby

Ignore me - I didn't have enough spaces so it was trying to import the
email add into a nickname field. I've added some extra blank columns
and now it's happy.

Dianne


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

Although I have no hard evidence, it was years ago that I heard about
the US govt/FBI having a backdoor into Windows, and that all antivirus
software by law cannot be allowed to detect what the FBI, etc., put onto
people's computers.

It might be true, it might be partially true. But the fact is that,
AFAIK, this kind of spyware can exist on Windows PCs, but not so much in
Linux.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1025684/us-government-snoops-used-vista-to-spy-on-me

As for WGA, this is the Windows Genuine Advantage tool, that checks if
the Windows you are using is valid or not, and if not, reports back to
Microsoft. It is a type of spyware which might also be used to report
other information to MS.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39277823,00.htm

This article suggests that early versions of WGA did report to Microsoft
at every startup time, but later versions were modified not too after
people complained about it.

At least two of the people who replied to that article wrote that they
switched to linux, and the WGA was one of the main reasons why I
personally decided to return to linux and try to use it full time at home.

As in all things, I expect the truth is out there.

David King

Alan Pope wrote:
2009/10/22 Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com:

There was a story (poss. last year or earlier) about a FBI(or Police)
conference in the US where MS apparently handed out a USB key to all
delegates that had backdoors into Windows. If I get chance I'll try to
search for it.

Interesting, I'd not heard about that. Google turned up this:-

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080429/095514977.shtml

...

Which could be achieved with one of many Linux based Live CDs or USB keys:-

http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/10-best-security-live-cd-distros-pen-test-forensics-recovery/

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] linux viruses

I do that too, sometimes. Too eager to get my post sent, I forget to 
completely proofread it first and so sometimes mistyped words/phrases 
get sent accidentally.

I do try now more often to check and read my emails carefully before 
sending, but sometimes I send an email quickly (and live to regret it).

David King


Tony Arnold wrote:
 David,

 David King wrote:
   
 I think you meant users tend to be logged in as a normal user instead 
 of root, so it's much harder...
 

 Indeed, I did! Just careless posting on my part!

 Regards,
 Tony.
   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread doug livesey

Although I have no hard evidence ... the truth is out there.

No offense, but by speculating like they do on government's spying in on us
through our computers whilst offering no hard evidence, they rather run the
risk of coming across a little tin-foil hat.
I don't know the Enquirer -- how respected a journal is it?
There are plenty of sound usability, technical, financial, ethical,
political, and security-related reasons to both reject M$ embrace Ubuntu
with lots of hard evidence to back them -- so many that I doubt I'll ever
get around to worrying on account of article as heavy on paranoia thin on
corroborating facts as that first link!
Interesting second article, though, cheers.
Doug.

2009/10/22 David King linux...@avoura.com

It might be true, it might be partially true. But the fact is that,
AFAIK, this kind of spyware can exist on Windows PCs, but not so much in
Linux.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1025684/us-government-snoops-used-vista-to-spy-on-me

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39277823,00.htm

This article suggests that early versions of WGA did report to Microsoft
at every startup time, but later versions were modified not too after
people complained about it.

As in all things, I expect the truth is out there.

David King

Alan Pope wrote:
2009/10/22 Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com:

Interesting, I'd not heard about that. Google turned up this:-

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080429/095514977.shtml

...

Which could be achieved with one of many Linux based Live CDs or USB
keys:-

http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/10-best-security-live-cd-distros-pen-test-forensics-recovery/

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[ubuntu-uk] Backdoors into computer systems was Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread Daniel Drummond

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 23:43 +0100, David King wrote:
 Although I have no hard evidence, it was years ago that I heard about 
 the US govt/FBI having  a backdoor into Windows, and that all antivirus 
 software by law cannot be allowed to detect what the FBI, etc., put onto 
 people's computers.
 

This reminds me of a story I heard a few years ago, 

quoting from http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/b/backdoor.html

Ken Thompson's 1983 Turing Award lecture to the ACM admitted the
existence of a back door in early Unix versions that may have qualified
as the most fiendishly clever security hack of all time. In this scheme,
the C compiler contained code that would recognize when the `login'
command was being recompiled and insert some code recognizing a password
chosen by Thompson, giving him entry to the system whether or not an
account had been created for him.

Normally such a back door could be removed by removing it from the
source code for the compiler and recompiling the compiler. But to
recompile the compiler, you have to *use* the compiler -- so Thompson
also arranged that the compiler would *recognize when it was compiling a
version of itself*, and insert into the recompiled compiler the code to
insert into the recompiled `login' the code to allow Thompson entry --
and, of course, the code to recognize itself and do the whole thing
again the next time around! And having done this once, he was then able
to recompile the compiler from the original sources; the hack
perpetuated itself invisibly, leaving the back door in place and active
but with no trace in the sources.


This was from a time when source code was supplied with proprietary
software.



 It might be true, it might be partially true. But the fact is that, 
 AFAIK, this kind of spyware can exist on Windows PCs, but not so much in 
 Linux.

Have you checked all the source code for your operating system? :-)

Dan






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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-22 Thread Rowan Berkeley

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 22:44 +0100, Christopher Swift
christopher.sw...@linux.com:
 Alan, since we've gone onto the topic of both spelling and grammar,
 you will find that according to the Oxford English Dictionary, the
 past participle of the verb to spell is indeed spelt.  We are not
 living in America on this thread.  View here as an example of the
 usage of the verb to spell in the past particple.
 http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwords/palindromes?view=uk
 I do agree however with the points regarding apostrophes.
 Regards,
 Chris.

Actually, the possessive pronoun WAS spelled with an apostrophe (which
is quite logical, since others are) until the contraction for 'it is'
became unavoidably common. Eighteenth-century printers wrote it with
one; I know this because I recently read the facsimile edition of Bishop
George Berkeley's Alciphron (1735) on Google Books, and there it was.


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RE: How's Karmic these days?

2009-10-22 Thread Anthony Sales

Hi everyone, I think everyone appreciates what Willie and Luke are doing, 
without them LInux would be a whole lot less accessible and they are doing a 
great job in the circumstances. However they are up against the same problem as 
every other VI user, in that although companies acknowledge the need for 
accessibility it isn't very high on their priorities list and this is reflected 
on the fact that Luke and Willie seem to be the only people who are allowed to 
work on these projects by their employers. If they were serious their would be 
a team of people working on accessibility, and it wouldn't be an afterthought 
but a fundamental element of all applications. The reality is that the VI are 
but one minority group amongst many, they aren't a big enough user group to 
generate billions of dollars, and thus they are catered for by smaller 
companies who can charge an arm and a leg for software many people can't 
survive without. I think mainstream Linux accessibility will gradually get 
better, but just like with Windows, it will always be an afterthought or add 
on, it is unlikely that any major distributer will produce a fully accessible 
OS optimised for the VI. This is why I started making Vinux, and I don't want 
to start any new arguments about mainstream v specialist accesibility software, 
but just imagine if Willie and Luke where actually working on an Orca distro 
rather than on the software itself, instead of trying to get it to work with 
Ubuntu's latest cutting edge technology. Then they would be able to make 
whatever changes were necessary to get the system fully accessible and include 
all the best accessible software. That is what I am trying to do with Vinux, 
but I simply don't have the technical skills and knowledge that Luke and Willie 
have, and like me they have to earn a living and it isn't likely to come from 
producing open-source accessibility software unless a government or large 
charity get involved. I still think it would be great if all of the developers 
interested in VI issues could pool their resources into one distro to rule them 
all, and this is not an attempt to devalue their work, what they are doing is 
great, but I sometimes feel that we are all swimming against the tide of the 
needs of the sighted majority and we are always going to be little fish. Keep 
up the good work, I am following in your wake, and without the work you do the 
Vinux project would not have been possible at all!

drbongo


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Sent: 22 October 2009 19:26
To: Bill Cox
Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: How's Karmic these days?

Hi All:

 From a stability standpoint, I can share what I'm planning for GNOME
2.30, which I suspect is likely to be what Lucid Lynx will be based upon.

The main goal for GNOME 2.30 (which you'll see developed via the GNOME
2.29.x development releases) is that we're retooling the entire
accessibility infrastructure to shed the Bonobo/CORBA dependency.  This
includes the AT-SPI infrastructure, speech, and magnification:

http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/BonoboDeprecation

At the same time, we have some big technologies coming down the pipe
that will need accessibility support: WebKit and GNOME Shell.  GDM 2.28
also has some accessibility issues that need addressing.  It's a lot of
work and we're going to do our best to make sure the changes are
positive changes for GNOME 2.30.  But, there will be instability for a
period of time during the GNOME 2.29 development cycle.

So...what this means is that I am going to keep Orca development down to
a minimum during the 2.29.x/2.30 cycle.  I plan only to fix high
priority bugs in Orca and will work to make sure these bug fixes are
backported to GNOME 2.28.

For the near future, people needing stability should stick with GNOME
2.28 and Karmic.  While Karmic may have some issues now, I think the
users on this list need to get behind it, test it, and get constructive
feedback and patches back to the Ubuntu team.

BTW, I fully sympathize with Luke -- I've been doing a11y work for
nearly 20 years and you are constantly between a rock and a hard place.
  Some of the users constantly spit and yell at you and your bosses keep
stripping you down to barely enough to survive.  The one thing that
keeps you going are the successes of users where the difference between
having the solution and not having the solution can mean having a job or
not having a job, being able to communicate with others or not being
able to communicate with others, etc.

Will
(GNOME Accessibility Lead)

Bill Cox wrote:
 Hi, Luke.

 Thanks for working on accessibility.  I feel really rotten about
 complaining about the bugs without putting in effort into debugging.
 However, my boss is all over me at the moment to get another project
 back on schedule.  I'm

Re: How's Karmic these days?

2009-10-22 Thread Francesco Fumanti

Hi,


Maybe that I should add a few words for the pointer only users.

(In the following, pointer users means users that are able to move the 
pointer in any direction, but that are not able to perform any input 
with a hardware keyboard.)


a) For pointer users able to click, karmic provides a system that they 
can use out of the box.

- GDM has been patched so that it starts onboard as the onscreen 
keyboard. (onboard is the onscreen keyboard shipping with ubuntu already 
for several releases)

- Onboard is also available in the GNOME session and its desktop icons 
are in the Universal Access menu. However, this menu and the desktop 
icons are hidden on a default Ubuntu a installation; but it is possible 
to use the Main Menu control panel to make them appear.

So, a default Ubuntu Karmic installation can be used by these users 
without help from anybody.


b) For pointer users not able to click, karmic is also usable, but only 
after a person able to click has performed a few configurations needed 
by these users.

Fortunately, Ubuntu (to be more precise, it is already shipped in GNOME) 
ships by default an accessibility tool called mousetweaks that allows 
these users to perform pointer clicks by software.

- GDM is not accessible for pointer users that cannot click.


A person with administrative privileges can set up GDM to launch 
mousetweaks in conjunction with onboard. Instructions about how to do it 
can be found in the Help of GDM.

Remarks:
-- I don't know whether Assistive Technology is running in GDM on a 
system out of the box. As mousetweaks requires Assistive Technology, GDM 
has to be configuration configuration configured to run it if it is not 
already the case. Instructions about how to do it can be found in the 
Help of GDM.
-- These users must never deactivate the onscreen keyboard in GDM, 
because it will also deactivate dwelling and they will not be able to 
reactivate it without the help of another person.



- The GNOME session is also not accessible for these people out of the 
box, but the solution is simple: Assistive Technology has to be 
activated for the GNOME session and the dwell click applet has to be 
installed on the GNOME panel.

Once this has been done, the GNOME session becomes accessible also for 
pointer users that are not able to click.


There is however a bug that has to be mentioned: In fact, there is an 
incompatibility between gksu and Assistive Technology. For example, if 
you open the Synaptic Package Manager, the gksu dialog for 
authentication appears. After entering the password, the desktop begins 
to become a bit irresponsive. To make the desktop fully responsive 
again, the user has to kill the gksu process in the dialog. To not get 
into this situation, a work around is to call the applications that use 
gksu directly from the terminal with sudo. (The authentication dialog of 
policykit does not have this problem.)


Cheers

Francesco



Nolan Darilek wrote:
 Anyone using it regularly? Lots of folks not using accessibility seem to 
 be having good luck with it, so I'm thinking of making the upgrade. How 
 is it from an accessibility perspective? And are there any more 
 potential audio breaking changes planned?
 
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Re: karmic and voxin

2009-10-22 Thread Bill Cox

I'm trying to get voxin working in karmic beta x64 under VirtualBox.
I can get the 'say' program working without error.  However, I've
failed so far to get it working with either speech-dispatcher or Gnome
Speech services.  To install, I used the voxin-update-0.24 program.  I
had to modify voxin-installer.sh to include 9.10 in a case statement,
but then the install runs.  However, Orca does not show ibmtts as an
option when using SD, and it doesn't show IBM ViaVoice when using
Gnome Speech Services.  What steps did you use to install Voxin?

Also, I didn't have any luck removing pulseaudio.  All it did was fry my sound.

Thanks,
Bill

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:34 PM, jose vilmar estacio de souza
vil...@informal.com.br wrote:
 I tried to run on my 64 bits installation without success.
 My machine froze completely.

 On 09/27/2009 08:22 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 01:53:32AM EST, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote:

 Anyone running voxin in karmic?

 I tried running it last week for some testing, and it worked without issue 
 on i386.

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Start Orca automatically question

2009-10-22 Thread René Linke

Hi,

I am a new member here and I have a first question:
I downloaded the latest Ubuntu for Netbooks Remix and extracted the 
image on a USB memory stick. What files I need to edit to do start Orca 
and change the user interface language to German automatically?

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Re: karmic and voxin

2009-10-22 Thread jose vilmar estacio de souza

Hi, my installation was done in the same way you did.
However you need to edit the speech-dispatcher config file and remove 
the comment marker present in the line that load ibmtts module.

As posted in my previous message, I had no luck with voxin and karmic.

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Msn:vil...@informal.com.br Skype:jvilmar
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jvesouza
Phone: +55 21-2555-2650 Cel: +55 21-8868-0859


On 10/22/2009 08:10 PM, Bill Cox wrote:
 I'm trying to get voxin working in karmic beta x64 under VirtualBox.
 I can get the 'say' program working without error.  However, I've
 failed so far to get it working with either speech-dispatcher or Gnome
 Speech services.  To install, I used the voxin-update-0.24 program.  I
 had to modify voxin-installer.sh to include 9.10 in a case statement,
 but then the install runs.  However, Orca does not show ibmtts as an
 option when using SD, and it doesn't show IBM ViaVoice when using
 Gnome Speech Services.  What steps did you use to install Voxin?

 Also, I didn't have any luck removing pulseaudio.  All it did was fry my 
 sound.

 Thanks,
 Bill

 On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:34 PM, jose vilmar estacio de souza
 vil...@informal.com.br  wrote:

 I tried to run on my 64 bits installation without success.
 My machine froze completely.

 On 09/27/2009 08:22 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote:
  
 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 01:53:32AM EST, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote:


 Anyone running voxin in karmic?

  
 I tried running it last week for some testing, and it worked without issue 
 on i386.

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Ubuntu Studio daily CD health check

2009-10-22 Thread Colin Watson

This is a daily health check report on the Ubuntu Studio CD images.
If you have any questions, contact Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com.

No problems found!

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Re: usplash image

2009-10-22 Thread Luke Yelavich

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:15:46AM EST, Scott Lavender wrote:
 I realize that we will be moving away from using a usplash but I had
 been working on this before the move.

To clarrify, we will not be moving away from usplash. It will stay there, for 
the cases where something needs to be shown to the user while their filesystems 
are checked etc, since X is not yet able to be run at that point.

 Cory requested that I post it to the mailing list.
 
 I was planning on using the stock ubuntu studio usplash but replacing
 the solid, white filled ubuntu studio with the linked pictures.
 
 http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/new-ubuntu-studio-usplash.png

Thanks for your work in any case, I think those who are good at deciding art 
will make the call whether or not to change it for lucid.

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Re: usplash image

2009-10-22 Thread Cory K.

On 10/22/2009 08:15 PM, Scott Lavender wrote:
 I realize that we will be moving away from using a usplash but I had
 been working on this before the move.

 Cory requested that I post it to the mailing list.

 I was planning on using the stock ubuntu studio usplash but replacing
 the solid, white filled ubuntu studio with the linked pictures.

 http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/new-ubuntu-studio-usplash.png

 Critique is always welcome.


I think it's rather busy.

We should just copy the Ubuntu one and just use our logo for this cycle 
(if we can sneak it in) and go for a coordinated design for Lucid.

If we can't sneak it in, I say we leave things as-is.


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Re: usplash image

2009-10-22 Thread Luke Yelavich

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:50:21AM EST, Cory K. wrote:
 I think it's rather busy.
 
 We should just copy the Ubuntu one and just use our logo for this cycle 
 (if we can sneak it in) and go for a coordinated design for Lucid.
 
 If we can't sneak it in, I say we leave things as-is.

This change is too big to get in at this point, so it will have to stay as it 
is.

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Re: Music sharing not working in Jaunty

2009-10-22 Thread Aryan Ameri

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 21:25 +0800, Christopher Lees wrote:
 That's rather odd. Rhythmbox should have a DAAP plugin that is installed
 by default, that can either share or browse DAAP shares. You do need to
 enable it in the Plugins window. 

Thanks for the reply. I know it is odd and no one else seems to suffer
from it cause I asked the exact same question on the Ubuntu-users
mailing list and it went without a single reply. 

Here is a screenshot of my desktop, running Rhythmbox. As you can see,
DAAP plugin is clearly activated, but there is no 'sharing' tab in the
preferences menu. I also captured the version number of Gnome and the
output of 'uname -a' for reference. 

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2628/screenshotmk.jpg

 Also, if you have a home server and you
 want to share music from it, I recommend installing Tangerine on the
 server to do your DAAP sharing; it's lighter than running Rhythmbox and
 it can be done on a headless server :-)

I read about Tangerine, but couldn't figure out if it is streaming audio
over the network, or if it is just for controlling media playback on the
server from another machine. 

Also in this instance, my 'server' is just another Ubuntu desktop
machine, and quite a powerful one at that, so I'd have no issues just
running Rhythmbox/Banshee on it all the time, if there was some way to
share it. 

 Whatever you do, don't try to fix the problem by upgrading to Karmic.
 DAAP and DLNA support is completely, totally and utterly broken in
 Karmic, all servers and all clients (well... I haven't tried Mediatomb
 as the server or Banshee as the client yet).

Thanks for the heads up. I'm not planning up upgrading to Karmic until
December/January anyway. Hope things settle down by then. 

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Re: New template of checkbox get imported

2009-10-22 Thread Milo Casagrande

2009/10/22 Bruno Patri bruno.pa...@gmail.com:
 There are many strings with anti-slashes in this template, like this one :

 I guess this should be \n instead of \

Also, they are coming from txt files, could that be related?


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Re: New template of checkbox get imported

2009-10-22 Thread Abel Deuring

On 22.10.2009 09:28, Bruno Patri wrote:
 Le mercredi 21 octobre 2009 23:07:06, Sergio Zanchetta a écrit :
 Hi everyone,

 There is a new templates of System Testing (checkbox) that have been
 imported to LP, due to the fix of the bug # 456115.
 There are several new strings to translate so it should be nice to
 have them done ASAP because the deadline is tomorrow.
 
 Hi,
 
 There are many strings with anti-slashes in this template, like this one :
 
 Pair a Bluetooth headset with your system. Then open the \ volume control 
 application by right-clicking on the speaker \ icon in the panel and 
 selecting Sound Preferences. Select \ the Input tab and choose your 
 Bluetooth device. Select the \ Output tab and choose your Bluetooth 
 device. When you are done, \ click the Test button, then speak into the 
 microphone. \ After a few seconds, your speech will be played back to you.
 
 
 I guess this should be \n instead of \

I think these backslashes indicate that the line after the '\' is the
continuation of the line before the '\'. Just run checkbox-gtk and
compare what is displayed with the text in tests/*.txt.in.

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Re: New template of checkbox get imported

2009-10-22 Thread Bruno Patri

Le jeudi 22 octobre 2009 10:19:39, abel deuring a écrit :
 On 22.10.2009 09:28, Bruno Patri wrote:
  Le mercredi 21 octobre 2009 23:07:06, Sergio Zanchetta a écrit :
  Hi everyone,
 
  There is a new templates of System Testing (checkbox) that have been
  imported to LP, due to the fix of the bug # 456115.
  There are several new strings to translate so it should be nice to
  have them done ASAP because the deadline is tomorrow.
 
  Hi,
 
  There are many strings with anti-slashes in this template, like this
  one :
.../...
  I guess this should be \n instead of \
 
 I think these backslashes indicate that the line after the '\' is the
 continuation of the line before the '\'. Just run checkbox-gtk and
 compare what is displayed with the text in tests/*.txt.in.

Checkbox has a CLI, so the strings should fit in a 80 col terminal (and 
checkbox-gtk has a really ugly apparence with those strings on a single 
line), that's why I guess this was a mistake.


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Re: request for release notes translations

2009-10-22 Thread Matthew Nuzum

Hello, instead of emailing me links to your translations please post a
link to your translation on this wiki page:

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/ReleaseNotes/Translations

This will make it easier for me to keep track of what is done. Thanks!

Format is [[link-to-translation|LANG]] completed date by person

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Steve Langasek
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 Hi folks,

 We're at that time of the release cycle again where the release notes are
 coming together, and your help is needed to translate them.  The Ubuntu 9.10
 release candidate is coming tomorrow, so we want to make sure our early
 adopters get useful information when clicking that link from within the live
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 Draft release notes for Ubuntu 9.10 are available at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/ReleaseNotes.  While these are not
 yet final, I expect that all the issues documented there will be included in
 the final release notes.

 And as for past releases, please use
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/ReleaseNotes/langcode
 for your translations, and coordinate with Matthew Nuzum
 matthew.nuzum at canonical.com (cc:ed), when you are ready to have these
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no gnome-app-install translation for karmic

2009-10-22 Thread Khaled Hosny

I noticed today that gnome-app-install is not localized and there are't
even translation templates in launchpad for karmic, any idea about this?

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Re: no gnome-app-install translation for karmic

2009-10-22 Thread Milo Casagrande

Hi Khaled,

2009/10/22 Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org:
 I noticed today that gnome-app-install is not localized and there are't
 even translation templates in launchpad for karmic, any idea about this?

gnome-app-install has been moved to universe, hence it's not
possible any more to translate it through Launchpad.

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Re: New template of checkbox get imported

2009-10-22 Thread Sergio Zanchetta

2009/10/22 Bruno Patri bruno.pa...@gmail.com:
 Le jeudi 22 octobre 2009 10:19:39, abel deuring a écrit :
 On 22.10.2009 09:28, Bruno Patri wrote:
  Le mercredi 21 octobre 2009 23:07:06, Sergio Zanchetta a écrit :
  Hi everyone,
 
  There is a new templates of System Testing (checkbox) that have been
  imported to LP, due to the fix of the bug # 456115.
  There are several new strings to translate so it should be nice to
  have them done ASAP because the deadline is tomorrow.
 
  Hi,
 
  There are many strings with anti-slashes in this template, like this
  one :
 .../...
  I guess this should be \n instead of \

 I think these backslashes indicate that the line after the '\' is the
 continuation of the line before the '\'. Just run checkbox-gtk and
 compare what is displayed with the text in tests/*.txt.in.

 Checkbox has a CLI, so the strings should fit in a 80 col terminal (and
 checkbox-gtk has a really ugly apparence with those strings on a single
 line), that's why I guess this was a mistake.


David and me have talked with Marc about \ thing on #ubuntu-devel.
He told us that they are needed to indicate the following newline
should be ignored in the code.
He added they're not meant to be like \n, they're meant to enable the
template files to be more readable by having long lines wrapped.
The lines are merged by the parser when \ is followed by a newline, so
it will be the same if you just don't use \ nor newline.

So, we have to translate strings as a single line without \.

He ended saying that the issue with the program will definitely be
addressed early in the lucid cycle.


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Re: no gnome-app-install translation for karmic

2009-10-22 Thread David Planella

El dj 22 de 10 de 2009 a les 17:36 +0200, en/na Khaled Hosny va
escriure:
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 05:05:14PM +0200, Milo Casagrande wrote:
  Hi Khaled,
  
  2009/10/22 Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org:
   I noticed today that gnome-app-install is not localized and there are't
   even translation templates in launchpad for karmic, any idea about this?
  
  gnome-app-install has been moved to universe, hence it's not
  possible any more to translate it through Launchpad.
 
 But I expect it to ship the l10n in a way or another,

Yes, you are right. This has been reported as a bug [1] as well.
Basically, now that the package has been demoted to universe it needs a
rebuild so translations are not stripped as it is the case with packages
in main using language packs.

  and AFAIK it is
 an Ubuntu specific project and is hosted in launchpad, so it should
 still be translated there, shouldn't it?
 

That's also true, but given the fact that the application has been
replaced by software-center, I'm not sure how well maintained it will be
in the future. In any case, if anyone thinks it might be worth opening
the upstream Launchpad gnome-app-install project for translations, I'd
recommend filing a separate bug against the gnome-app-install package
[2].

Regards,
David.

[1] https://launchpad.net/bugs/456757
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-app-install/+filebug?no-redirect

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Test new language pack-de version 1:9.04+20091012

2009-10-22 Thread Steffen Eibicht

Hi,

I have finished the testing at the new language-pack-de version 1:9.04
+20091012, which was uploaded into the ppa at 13th of october.

The test was done in Ubuntu Jaunty. 

I found that 8 bugs are fixed, but still there are 31 bugs (which I
found in the old languagepack - so there might be more) in there. 
These not-yet-fixed-bugs are mainly in the Helpcenter, so I propose that
we will check the help stuff again to get rid of them.

However, as the mentioned 8 bugfixes are directly visible to the user I
would recommend to release it as an update for Jaunty. 

thanks

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Re: Preview for ubiquity-ubuntu-slideshow

2009-10-22 Thread André Gondim

At the Release Candidate does not have full translations for pt_BR, but at
the link
http://l10n.ubuntu.tla.ro/ubuntu-karmic-ubiquity-slideshow/index.html#locale=pt_BR#controlshttp://l10n.ubuntu.tla.ro/ubuntu-karmic-ubiquity-slideshow/index.html#locale=pt_BR%23controlsit's
all ok, will it ok at final release?

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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 17:27, Adi Roiban a...@roiban.ro wrote:

 Hi,

 I have just updated the webpage with an Rosetta export received at
 15:08-UTC

 http://l10n.ubuntu.tla.ro/ubuntu-karmic-ubiquity-slideshow/langs.html

 În data de Mi, 21-10-2009 la 13:09 +0800, Aron Xu a scris:
  Hi Adi,
  Thanks for your work, but where is the picture for firefox?
  AFAIK it doesn't show up when I choose zh_CN with my firefox.
 
  Aron

 Here is the info from Dylan McCall :
 
  (Unfortunately), this is intentional. Mozilla's trademark policy
  blocks
  us from distributing the real icon with the package, and pointing to
  the
  icon installed to the system means we get either the branded or
  unbranded icon based on what system the slideshow is running on. It
  won't load that icon when running from the web, because a web site can
  only use local resources if it is itself stored locally.

 Just to have an icon, i have modified the slide to display a generic web
 png... but on an Ubuntu system it will show and Firefox icon.


 I have another info from Dylan, regarding the links from the
 documentation / support slide.

  Oh, with regards to your query, the link should be kept intact.
  (Although, if there's an official Ubuntu web site that has the same
  page translated to the appropriate language, that would be fine). The
  reason for that is because this particular community page
  (ubuntu.com/community) has a real wealth of information, including
  community support, how to contribute and information about local
  teams :)

 Cheers!
 PS: you can generate those pages using this branch:



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[ubuntu-ec] Charla sobre Elastix en Compu 2009

2009-10-22 Thread rafael bonifaz

Estimados,

El día de mañana tendremos una charla sobre Elastix. Así que los que quieran
conocer un poco más sobre el proyecto de software libre más exitoso de
Ecuador, les invitamos a hacerlo.

Fecha: viernes 23 de octubre
Hora: 18 horas
Lugar: Compu 2009 Cemexpo
Sala: BUSINESS CENTER

Les invitamos a todos a participar:

PaloSanto Solutions, tiene el agrado de invitarlo a la XXVIII Feria
Internacional de Informática, Software y Telecomunicaciones, a realizarse
del 20 al 25 de Octubre en CEMEXPO, con el fin de que Usted visite nuestro
stand y conozca de nuestros productos y servicios de tecnología 100%
ecuatoriana basada en Software Libre y VoIP.

PaloSanto Solutions presenta en este evento su producto estrella Elastix®,
el proyecto de software libre para Voz sobre IP más reconocido a nivel
mundial y orgullosamente ecuatoriano. Elastix® (http://www.elastix.org), es
una suite completa de Telefonía y Colaboración (Fax, e-mail, Chat, CRM,
Mensajería Instantánea, y Call Center), producto innovador para
Comunicaciones Unificadas, basado en Linux (CentOS) y Asterisk, desarrollado
100% por ingenieros ecuatorianos de PaloSanto Solutions. Nominado el 2007,
2008, y 2009 en diversas categorías a nivel mundial en los premios
organizados por SourceForge (http://www.sf.net). Traducido a 22 idiomas,
actualmente tiene más de 500,000 descargas realizadas desde el Internet, y
cuenta con una red de integradores y partners en todos los continentes.

Elastix en la actualidad está instalado exitosamente en importantes empresas
ecuatorianas del sector público y privado tales como: Ministerio de Salud,
Ministerio de Cultura, Instituto Nacional de Contratación Pública, CNT,
AeroGal, RTS, Banco ProCredit, UNIVISA, entre otros. Elastix ha sido objeto
de diferentes publicaciones en importantes medios de prensa en donde se ha
destacado este producto innovador y hecho en Ecuador

En nuestra charla se mostrará el producto Elastix y todas las ventajas que
pueden tener las empresas de hoy con Elastix

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Re: [ubuntu-ec] Charlas de Palosanto en la feria:Soluciones Empresariales con Software Libre

2009-10-22 Thread rafael bonifaz

ese  alguien era josé luis coral. Habría que ver si lo puede hacer.

El 21 de octubre de 2009 19:06, Fernando Montenegro compuniver...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Rafha de lo q me acuerdo alguien de tu grupo tenia un i...@hone jailbreak por
 q no transmiten desde alli a travez de ustream??? Oh si alguien tiene un G1
 tambien
 --Original Message--
 From: Alexander López
 Sender: ubuntu-ec-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
 To: Lista Ubuntu Ecuador
 Cc: Ecuador QUIere gnu/liNUX
 Cc: sasli...@egrupos.net
 ReplyTo: Lista Ubuntu Ecuador
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-ec] Charlas de Palosanto en la feria:Soluciones
  Empresariales con Software Libre
 Sent: Oct 21, 2009 2:37 PM

 Fuera el éxito si se logra hacerlo con video streaming, para que la
 gente como yo de la provincia pueda verlo.

 rafael bonifaz escribió:
  Estimados compañeros,
 
  El día de mañana estaremos dando una charla sobre soluciones
  empresariales y software libre en la Compu 2009. Les invitamos
 
  Tema: Soluciones Empresariales con Software Libre
  Fecha : Jueves 22 a las 15:30
 
  Resumen:
  Aprenda como el software libre le ayudará a mejorar  los procesos dentro
  de su empresa. Con el software libre, las empresas pequeñas, medianas y
  grandes tendrán lo necesario para ser más competitivas en el dinámico
  mundo empresarial.
 
  El software propuesto para esta charla estará en las siguientes áreas de
  acción:
 
 * Seguridades
 * Correo y Colaboración
 * Relaciones con el Cliente / Inteligencia de Negocios / Servicio al
   Cliente Interno
 * Administración Empresarial
 * Recursos Humanos
 * Comunicaciones Unificadas
 * Virtualización
 
  Se harán demostraciones de algunas de estas herramientas.


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Re: [ubuntu-ec] Charlas de Palosanto en la feria:SolucionesEmpresariales con Software Libre

2009-10-22 Thread Fernando Montenegro

Seria bueno Rafha, sorry por lo del alguien pero no recordaba el nombre
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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[ubuntu-ec] El Unico RC de Ubuntu Karmic

2009-10-22 Thread Andres Genovez

Esta listo para la descarga:

http://www.distrowatch.com

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[ubuntu-ec] Que opinan del siguiente mail que env ía Microsoft a estudiantes de Universidades?; Que a udacia!!!

2009-10-22 Thread Pedro Franco

Que opinan del siguiente mail que envía Microsoft a estudiantes de
Universidades?
Estimado Pedro:

Te adjunto un mail, el cual un funcionario de Microsoft llamado Juan
Jose
Mena envio a uno mis estudiantes de la ESPOCH y este su vez lo envio a
sus
compañeros.

Quisiera los comentarios de toda la comunidad.

Saludos

Atte.

Danilo Pástor
DOCENTE - ESPOCH

**
*
Hola Team,

Me han enviado un documento comentando una sugerencia del CONESUP para
que
las universidades públicas analicen el decreto 1014 sobre el Open Source
y
que tomen las acciones que estimen conveniente.

En algunas universidades están tomando la decisión de migrar todo a Open
Source incluyendo la currícula académica,  sin ver en profundidad el
perjuicio que esto puede tener en la universidad y en los estudiantes.
Les
envío este análisis del decreto y mis sugerencias, porque creo que los
únicos perjudicados van a ser los estudiantes de la universidad, los
desarrolladores y el país, indistinto de cualquier preferencia de
tecnología que tengan.

1. El decreto 1014 firmado por el gobierno, es un documento que no está
a
nivel de ley, está en 6to  lugar de importancia bajo la Constitución de
la
república.

  a. La Constitución;
  b. Los tratados y convenios internacionales;
  c. Leyes ORGANICAS (en este nivel está la Ley referida);
  d. Leyes ordinarias;
  e. Las normas regionales y ordenanzas distritales;
  f. Los decretos y reglamentos (en este nivel está el Decreto
 Ejecutivo referido);
  g. Ordenanzas;
  h. Acuerdos y resoluciones;
  i. Los demás actos y decisiones de los poderes públicos.

2. El decreto fue emitido únicamente para las organizaciones del
gobierno
central. No se extiende a las universidades de ningún tipo

  a. El artículo 1 del Decreto referido establece el siguiente mandato:
se
 fija una Política Pública para las entidades de la Administración
 Pública Central la utilización de Software Libre en sus sistemas y
 equipamientos informáticos.

  1. El artículo 1 en detalle dice lo siguiente:

 - Se ha establecido una política pública, y no una obligación de
   hacer o no hacer algo. Entiéndase por Política Pública  una
   posición básica o curso de acción seleccionado por el gobierno
para
   orientar las decisiones respecto a una necesidad o situación de
   interés público.

 - El Decreto 1014 se aplica únicamente a las entidades de la
   Administración Pública Central (ver listado adjunto).

 - La política pública anterior aplica a la UTILIZACIÓN de SOFTWARE
   LIBRE, en los sistemas y equipamientos informáticos ÚNICAMENTE de
   las entidades antes señaladas (“… en sus sistemas y equipamientos
   informáticos”.

 - Conclusión: El Decreto 1014 fija un lineamiento que deben seguir
   únicamente las entidades de la Administración Pública central
para
   el uso de software libre únicamente en SUS PROPIOS sistemas y
   equipamientos informáticos. Ello significa que hay un límite muy
   claro de aplicación del Decreto antes referido que no se debe
   sobrepasar.

3. El decreto es una directriz mas no una imposición.

  a. En el Artículo 4, el Decreto antes referido FACULTA la utilización
de
 software propietario en los siguientes casos:

 - Cuando no exista software libre que supla las necesidades
   requeridas.
 - Cuando esté en riesgo la seguridad nacional.
 - Cuando el proyecto informático se encuentre en un punto de no
   retorno. Se entiende por PUNTO DE NO RETORNO:
   o Sistema en producción funcionando satisfactoriamente y que un
   análisis de costo-beneficio muestre que no es razonable ni
   conveniente una migración a Software Libre;
   o Proyecto en estado de desarrollo y que un análisis de costo-
   beneficio muestre que no es conveniente modificar el proyecto y
   utilizar Software Libre.

 - Cuando no exista capacidad técnica que brinde el soporte
necesario
   para el uso de software libre.

  b. Conclusión:  Si cualquiera de los cuatro escenarios antes señalados
 suceden, existen, se evidencian, las entidades de la Administración
 Pública Central están en plena facultad de adquirir software
 propietario SIN LA NECESIDAD DE SOLICITAR PERMISO O AUTORIZACIÓN A
 ENTIDAD ALGUNA.

Hagan un análisis con sus decanos y profesores dirigentes respecto a los
problemas que tendrán los estudiantes de la carrera al eliminar materias
y
equipamientos con software propietario. En el ámbito profesional, el
Open
Source, de los cuales Microsoft es parte también de la comunidad,  es
una
de las alternativas para las empresas, pero no es la única, y en el
mundo
competitivo ahora se habla de Interoperabilidad y conectividad, es decir
la unión de varias tecnologías para llegar a un objetivo productivo.

Qué pasa cuando ustedes como empresarios o profesionales enfrentan
requerimientos de elaborar productos con tecnologías de

[Tradutores-Ubuntu] Ubuntu non sincronizou

2009-10-22 Thread Miguel Bouzada

alguén ten novas de porqué Ubuntu non sincronizou as traducions?


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[Tradutores-Ubuntu] Detalles da Karmic que se cadra xa se trataron

2009-10-22 Thread José Manuel Castroagudín Silva

Boas, xente,

Onte instalei unha Ubuntu karmic nunha máquina virtual, e vin unha
serie de cousas que se cadra xa se falaron (son bastante evidentes),
pero que non sei se poderiamos arranxar. Son, sen ningún tipo de orde
aparente, as seguintes:

- O menú de Sistema aparece sen iconas. Os outros dous téñenas, e
ata os submenús de Sistema tamén. Entendo que non será cousa da
tradución ao galego, pero nunca se sabe. Alguén sabe por que pasa
isto?

- Update-manager. Peta tras a primeira actualización que fixen.
Aparentemente, parece que si que pode ter que ver coa tradución. [1]
Neste link tedes detalles (despois funcionou, pero non sei se será bo
deixalo pasar). Pasoulle a alguén máis?
[1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/458448

. OpenOffice.org... está en inglés. Non sei se me comentou Antón que
había que instalar algunha cousa a maiores para poñelo en gl. Se tal,
podiamos falar con alguén, para que inclúa eses paquetes a maiores
como dependencia para algún langpack, ou algunha ñapa así (seguramente
non se poida facer nada, ou ata pode que Antón nunca me comentara
nada, e o soñara ou imaxinara. Ás veces pásame, jejeje)

- No menú de Aplicativos aparece, dentro de Internet Cliente de
servidor de terminais... Non sei se é bo que Terminal Server se
traduza. Entendo que é unha marca comercial, ou cando menos, o nome
dun programa/servizo/o que sexa, que igual se debería manter intacto.

- Non recordo se vin algo máis.

Cachis, acabo de ver que Fran mandou un correo referente aos bugs. Se
cadra podiamos ter xa pulidas estas cousas.

Entendo que xa non van facer outra exportación de traducións antes
da versión final, non? Ou si? estaría ben ter polo menos o incluído na
instalación básica ben afinado...

Como sempre, dicídeme se estou mexando fora do testo, vale?

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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] Detalles da Karmic que se cadra xa se trataron

2009-10-22 Thread Miguel Bouzada

2009/10/22 José Manuel Castroagudín Silva chavescesu...@gmail.com

 Boas, xente,

 Onte instalei unha Ubuntu karmic nunha máquina virtual, e vin unha
 serie de cousas que se cadra xa se falaron (son bastante evidentes),
 pero que non sei se poderiamos arranxar. Son, sen ningún tipo de orde
 aparente, as seguintes:

 - O menú de Sistema aparece sen iconas. Os outros dous téñenas, e
 ata os submenús de Sistema tamén. Entendo que non será cousa da
 tradución ao galego, pero nunca se sabe. Alguén sabe por que pasa
 isto?

 - Update-manager. Peta tras a primeira actualización que fixen.
 Aparentemente, parece que si que pode ter que ver coa tradución. [1]
 Neste link tedes detalles (despois funcionou, pero non sei se será bo
 deixalo pasar). Pasoulle a alguén máis?
 [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/458448

 . OpenOffice.org... está en inglés. Non sei se me comentou Antón que
 había que instalar algunha cousa a maiores para poñelo en gl. Se tal,
 podiamos falar con alguén, para que inclúa eses paquetes a maiores
 como dependencia para algún langpack, ou algunha ñapa así (seguramente
 non se poida facer nada, ou ata pode que Antón nunca me comentara
 nada, e o soñara ou imaxinara. Ás veces pásame, jejeje)

 - No menú de Aplicativos aparece, dentro de Internet Cliente de
 servidor de terminais... Non sei se é bo que Terminal Server se
 traduza. Entendo que é unha marca comercial, ou cando menos, o nome
 dun programa/servizo/o que sexa, que igual se debería manter intacto.


Hai pouco que o revisei eu e quedou  Cliente de Terminal Server 


 - Non recordo se vin algo máis.

 Cachis, acabo de ver que Fran mandou un correo referente aos bugs. Se
 cadra podiamos ter xa pulidas estas cousas.

 Entendo que xa non van facer outra exportación de traducións antes
 da versión final, non? Ou si? estaría ben ter polo menos o incluído na
 instalación básica ben afinado...

 Como sempre, dicídeme se estou mexando fora do testo, vale?

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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] Detalles da Karmic que se cadra xa se trataron

2009-10-22 Thread Fran Dieguez

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Lets go!

José Manuel Castroagudín Silva escribiu:
 Boas, xente,
 
 Onte instalei unha Ubuntu karmic nunha máquina virtual, e vin unha
 serie de cousas que se cadra xa se falaron (son bastante evidentes),
 pero que non sei se poderiamos arranxar. Son, sen ningún tipo de orde
 aparente, as seguintes:
 
 - O menú de Sistema aparece sen iconas. Os outros dous téñenas, e
 ata os submenús de Sistema tamén. Entendo que non será cousa da
 tradución ao galego, pero nunca se sabe. Alguén sabe por que pasa
 isto?
Coméntoche iso sacáronllo seica porque metía ruido...!!!
 
 - Update-manager. Peta tras a primeira actualización que fixen.
 Aparentemente, parece que si que pode ter que ver coa tradución. [1]
 Neste link tedes detalles (despois funcionou, pero non sei se será bo
 deixalo pasar). Pasoulle a alguén máis?
 [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/458448
 
A min vaime perfecta (xa sei a tipica escusa... ao mellor baixoche un
índice mal e petou...)
 . OpenOffice.org... está en inglés. Non sei se me comentou Antón que
 había que instalar algunha cousa a maiores para poñelo en gl. Se tal,
 podiamos falar con alguén, para que inclúa eses paquetes a maiores
 como dependencia para algún langpack, ou algunha ñapa así (seguramente
 non se poida facer nada, ou ata pode que Antón nunca me comentara
 nada, e o soñara ou imaxinara. Ás veces pásame, jejeje)
 
Teñoo en galego, simplemente tes que activar en configuracións de idioma
 instalar/eliminar idiomas - galego activando axudas de correccion
ortográfica e escrita.

Todo funcionando. Lembra que podes tirar do meu repo para instalar o
golfinho e mais as language tools
 - No menú de Aplicativos aparece, dentro de Internet Cliente de
 servidor de terminais... Non sei se é bo que Terminal Server se
 traduza. Entendo que é unha marca comercial, ou cando menos, o nome
 dun programa/servizo/o que sexa, que igual se debería manter intacto.
 
 - Non recordo se vin algo máis.
 
 Cachis, acabo de ver que Fran mandou un correo referente aos bugs. Se
 cadra podiamos ter xa pulidas estas cousas.
 

 Entendo que xa non van facer outra exportación de traducións antes
 da versión final, non? Ou si? estaría ben ter polo menos o incluído na
 instalación básica ben afinado...
Respecto ás traduzóns... boas novas, dixeronme no irc de ubuntu+1 que
van a exportalas hoxe
Sempre agardan unhas horas (dígase 1hora...48horas) ata que se
estabilicen os erros da release)
 
 Como sempre, dicídeme se estou mexando fora do testo, vale?
 
Non salpiques!

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[Ubuntu-BR] Recuperar dados de arquivo particionado

2009-10-22 Thread Marcos Goulart

Oi, pessoal, gostaria de recuperar uma pasta deletada do meu hd. O
problema é que depois de tê-lo formatado e particionado... Na real fiz
isso e acabei achando que tinha salvado um arquivo e não o fiz... Tentei
usar o Testdisk, mas não funcionou... será que ainda consigo? Ah, eu uso
o Ubuntu 9.04.

Outra coisa, gostaria só de uma informação: quais os requisitos mínimos
de hardware para o Ubuntu 9.10?

Abraços

Marcos Vinicius da Silva Goulart

Licenciado em Filosofia pela UFRGS.
Mestrando em Psicologia Social e Institucional pela UFRGS.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Saída

2009-10-22 Thread Leonardo Ribeiro

Falou André, Sucesso no novo desafio.

2009/10/21 Andre Cavalcante andre.d.cavalca...@gmail.com

 Olá a todos

 Estou me descadastrando da lista. Saio de coração partido, mas com uns
 20 e-mails diários na lista e uma tese de doutorado nas mão fica
 difícil acompanhar e ajudar como gostaria. Em breve devo retornar
 quando as coisas estiverem mais calmas por aqui.
 Gostaria de desejar a todos muitas felicidades com o Linux.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Saída

2009-10-22 Thread Givaldo

Andre Cavalcante escreveu:
 Estou me descadastrando da lista. 

Sucesso em sua defesa.
E volte assim que puder nos anunciando que é o mais novo Doutor no meio 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Manutenção do sistema

2009-10-22 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima

 As vacinas na verdade, seriam soluções de terceiros para algumas falhas e
 defeitos do Windows e seus aplicativos. Como o Linux é de código aberto,
 é
 mais comum que terceiros participem diretamente no desenvolvimento do
 software, sem a necessidade, digamos de gambiarras. Agora uma coisa que
 costuma ser vulnerável igualmente em qualquer sistema operacional, é o
 navegador, caso queira ter mas segurança, é possível utilizar as extensões
 do Firefox, NoScript e AdBlock.


Eu entendo como vacina uma espécia de complemento do software anti-vírus
que substitui, ou remove, uma sequência de códigos binários identificados
como assinatura de vírus em qualquer arquivo, independente se forem falhas
do Windows e seus aplicativos. Um vírus pode muito bem se anexar em arquivos
padrão ODF, ou imagens GIF, JPG, PNG ou PDF. Aí não seriam falhas do Windows
e seus aplicativos (indiretamente sim). Mas minha dúvida diz respeito a se
existe uma ferramenta para eliminar esse vírus presente no arquivo para
sistemas GNU/Linux, para que se possa curar o arquivo doente antes de
repassa-lo a terceiros que podem ser, digamos, lesados, tanto pela
presença de vírus, quanto pelo não recebimento do tal arquivo.

Abraço.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Manutenção do sistema

Entendo, já teve uma discussão sobre isso recentemente aqui na lista, dá uma
procurada. Mas vacina não é prevenção?

2009/10/22 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@gmail.com

  As vacinas na verdade, seriam soluções de terceiros para algumas falhas e
  defeitos do Windows e seus aplicativos. Como o Linux é de código
 aberto,
  é
  mais comum que terceiros participem diretamente no desenvolvimento do
  software, sem a necessidade, digamos de gambiarras. Agora uma coisa que
  costuma ser vulnerável igualmente em qualquer sistema operacional, é o
  navegador, caso queira ter mas segurança, é possível utilizar as
 extensões
  do Firefox, NoScript e AdBlock.
 
 
 Eu entendo como vacina uma espécia de complemento do software anti-vírus
 que substitui, ou remove, uma sequência de códigos binários identificados
 como assinatura de vírus em qualquer arquivo, independente se forem
 falhas
 do Windows e seus aplicativos. Um vírus pode muito bem se anexar em
 arquivos
 padrão ODF, ou imagens GIF, JPG, PNG ou PDF. Aí não seriam falhas do
 Windows
 e seus aplicativos (indiretamente sim). Mas minha dúvida diz respeito a se
 existe uma ferramenta para eliminar esse vírus presente no arquivo para
 sistemas GNU/Linux, para que se possa curar o arquivo doente antes de
 repassa-lo a terceiros que podem ser, digamos, lesados, tanto pela
 presença de vírus, quanto pelo não recebimento do tal arquivo.

 Abraço.

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 Curitiba - PR
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 http://del.icio.us/paulocwb2003
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Atualizações do intrepid

Em Qua, 2009-10-21 às 17:17 -0300, Ribamar Costa escreveu:
 Olá senhoras e senhores, desculpem a minha ignorancia :-(,mas agora que 
 saiu o 9.10 as atualizações do 8.10 não funcionam mais?
 Tenho tentado fazer aquelas atualizações que estão na apostila do Ygor 
 Abreu mas tá dizendo sempre que os arquivos não estão disponíveis...
 Alguém pode me ajudar a entender isso?
 Obrigado desde já.

O 8.10 continua com suporte, creio que até Abril de 2010 (18 meses).
Experimente alterar nos repositórios do Synaptic para servidor
principal. Lembre-se que repositórios de terceiros não tem cobertura
oficial da Canonical, pode ser o caso de não conseguir realizar estas
atualizações (não vó essa apostila).

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] teste

2009-10-22 Thread Thiago Bocchile

Bom, eu tenho a impressão de que acabou não indo meu e-mail mesmo, enviei
ele com o assunto Sistema congela misteriosamente. (com logs), e eu recebi
no filtro de listas normalmente, sem a etiqueda... o engraçado é que as
informações vieram assim:

deThiago Bocchile tyk...@gmail.comparaubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com
data16 de outubro de 2009 01:45assuntoSistema congela misteriosamente. (com
logs)enviado porgmail.com

Agora, ja nesse e-mail mesmo que estou respondendo, do Vitor, vejam:

deVítor adeiss...@gmail.comresponder aLista de discussão do LoCoTeam
Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
paraLista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
data21 de outubro de 2009 12:21assuntoRe: [Ubuntu-BR] testelista de e-mails
ubuntu-br.lists.ubuntu.com Filtrar as mensagens dessa lista de e-mailscancelar
inscriçãoCancelar a inscrição para essa lista de e-mails
Eu tenho realmente a impressão de que o e-mail não foi para a lista... o que
vocês acham?
Referente ao fato de ser enviado pelo Gmail... não seria filtro da lista
isso? Não fez muito sentido pra mim isso.

Valeu!

Thiago Bocchile
2009/10/21 Vítor adeiss...@gmail.com

 Acho que não.
 Vc só não vai ter o seu email incluído na conversa se apagá-lo na pasta de
 enviados. Caso contrário eles entram normalmente na conversa. O primeiro
 email, qd sou eu que começo uma conversa, fica sem a etiqueta [Ubuntu-BR],
 mas aparece sim.
 Pelo menos comigo é assim.

 Abs

 Vítor

 2009/10/21 Givaldo lis...@givaldodecidra.mus.br

  Marcelo Silva escreveu:
   Pois é... eu não gosto desse modo do Gmail... meu email é do IG ( que é
   gmail ) e é assim.
  
   As vezes da a impressão que as mensagens não foram... mas já acostumei
  
 
  Uma outra coisa chata nesse processo é que você não tem a thread
  completa, fica sempre faltando seus e-mails.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot - Uruguai fornece um laptop para cada aluno de escola do Estado

De nada adiantará ferramentas interativas, se o conteúdo a ser ensinado for
o mesmo. O aluno vai ligar o XO e vai abrir por exemplo uma minipédia, e
procurar Pedro Alvares Cabral, como saída, Pedro Alvares Cabral
acidentalmente descobriu o Brasil em sua viagem para as Indias, etc
Talvez os alunos com sua curiosidade, passem a conhecer o Google e a
Wikipédia, e as coisas a realmente mudar.

2009/10/16 Andre Cavalcante andre.d.cavalca...@gmail.com

 2009/10/16 Salles salles@gmail.com:
  Em Sex, 2009-10-16 às 16:37 -0300, Nilson Chagas escreveu:
  Com iniciativas como esta fez com que o Chile tenha uma economia e
  estabilidade invejavel.
  Sei que o Brasil é um pais continental, mas pq ser o continente africano
 e
  não o europeu?? (sem preconceitos só questão estrutural mesmo).
 
  Continente? Já nos desligamos da Pangéia? :)
 
  Bom mas ai poderiamos passar para o lado politico, mas o meu intuito foi
  mesmo a abrangencia do Linux ainda mais no que diz respeito a
 aprendizado,
  pode se estar formando uma nova geração de usuários.
 
  Tua intenção foi memorável, mano.
  Infelizmente aqui tudo é politica mesmo, isso é o que atrapalha tudo.
 
  Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 Linux User 496632
 

 Eu também faço coro convosco!

 Acredito que a decisão foi política, acima de tudo, e não somente
 econômica.

 Imagina ter uma porção de moleques (do tamanho de uns 4 Uruguais)
 craques em Linux em uma geração?

 Aliás, acredito que o Brasil (agora sim com letra maiúscula) tem toda
 a capacidade técnica não só de produzir por aqui este computador como
 até mesmo de projetá-lo (design do hw e do sw).

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Site da Net, TVs e Radios Online n ão funcionam

Se eu não me engano, a TV Terra usa o silverlight. Então você vai precisar
instalar um pacote adicional:

sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla

2009/10/18 André Carioca andre.cari...@gmail.com

 Sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras gnome-mplayer
 geck-mediaplayer.

 Vai resolver todos os problemas citados.

 Em 17-10-2009 17:12, Vitor . escreveu:
  Boa tarde!
 
  Estou tentando navegar no site na Net (www.net.tv.br) porém não consigo
  navegar corretamente, ele não deixa eu usar as caixas de seleção, estou
  usando o Ubuntu e o FF 3.0
 
  Não instalei ou desinstalei pacotes pois consegui resolver alguns
 problema
  de vídeo do Youtube e não gostaria de mexer e estragar, infelizmente TV
  Terra, TV UOL, Rádio UOL e essas coisas ainda não consegui resolver.
 
  Gostaria de uma ajuda nisso.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Congelamento no GNOME

Tente reportar um bug pelo apport. Como, não sei o por que, o apport não é
iniciado automaticamente em todos os casos de bug, então abra um terminal e
digite: apport-cli

2009/10/18 Abílio N. abilioan...@gmail.com

 *Valeu pessoal pela força, já deixei o protetor de tela como aleatório
 também

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[Ubuntu-BR] backup lista podcast do Rhythmbox 0.12.5

2009-10-22 Thread Maudy Pedrao

Galera,
Alguém sabe como fazer um backup na nova versão 0.12.5 do Rhythmbox, no KK
9.10??
Tente procurar em ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox e não achei.
Valeu!!

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Site da Net, TVs e Radios Online n ão funcionam

2009-10-22 Thread Vitor .

Muito Obrigado pela ajuda do pessoal.

Estou um pouco sem tempo para mexer mas as poucos estou resolvendo os
problemas do meu Ubuntu, que por sinal estou gostando muito.

Já resolvia o Youtube, só algumas vezes que ele só funciona abrindo como
pop-up, já resolvi a questão das rádios.

O site da Net ainda não consigue resolver o problema, já instalei e
desinstalei o Java, ou melhor os 2 que encontrei pelo gerenciador de
pacotes, mas não funcionou ainda.

O site do Makro também não, a caixa de seleção não vai de jeito nenhum.

Para o meu uso está sendo muito bom.
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2009/10/22 Daniel de Souza Telles blueandn...@gmail.com

 Se eu não me engano, a TV Terra usa o silverlight. Então você vai precisar
 instalar um pacote adicional:

 sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla

 2009/10/18 André Carioca andre.cari...@gmail.com

  Sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras gnome-mplayer
  geck-mediaplayer.
 
  Vai resolver todos os problemas citados.
 
  Em 17-10-2009 17:12, Vitor . escreveu:
   Boa tarde!
  
   Estou tentando navegar no site na Net (www.net.tv.br) porém não
 consigo
   navegar corretamente, ele não deixa eu usar as caixas de seleção, estou
   usando o Ubuntu e o FF 3.0
  
   Não instalei ou desinstalei pacotes pois consegui resolver alguns
  problema
   de vídeo do Youtube e não gostaria de mexer e estragar, infelizmente TV
   Terra, TV UOL, Rádio UOL e essas coisas ainda não consegui resolver.
  
   Gostaria de uma ajuda nisso.
  
   Abraços
  
  
 
 
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[Ubuntu-BR] ot: IBM lança SO baseado em Linux

2009-10-22 Thread Jean Pierre Jochen

fonte:
http://olhardigital.uol.com.br/digital_news/noticia.php?id_conteudo=9599/IBM+LANCA+SO+BASEADO+EM+LINUX


A IBM lançou nesta terça-feira, 21, um sistema operacional baseado em Linux
chamado IBM Client for Smart Work. A plataforma é desenvolvida em conjunto
com a Canonical, criadora do Ubuntu.

O sistema da IBM foi lançado em setembro na África e, em seguida, também nos
Estados Unidos, no intuito de reduzir os custos de licenciamentos e upgrades
de hardwares, por exemplo.

De acordo com a companhia, o sistema operacional chega para concorrer com o
Windows 7, da Microsoft, que será lançando na próxima quinta-feira, 22. A
IBM acredita que as empresas que adotarem sua plataforma economizarão 50% em
relação ao Windows - em relação aos custos dos softwares.

O IBM Client for Smart Work, no entanto, só deve estar disponível em toda
linha da empresa após 2010.



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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Saída

2009-10-22 Thread João Ghignatti - py3aii

André, não saia da lista. Entre em modo WEB e quando tiveres algum tempo 
poderás ver as mensagens sem
encher tua caixa de entrada. Já doutorado, basta modificar o estatus 
junto a lista.

Sucesso no doutorado.


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André Cavalcante escreveu:
 Olá a todos

 Estou me descadastrando da lista. Saio de coração partido, mas com uns
 20 e-mails diários na lista e uma tese de doutorado nas mão fica
 difícil acompanhar e ajudar como gostaria. Em breve devo retornar
 quando as coisas estiverem mais calmas por aqui.
 Gostaria de desejar a todos muitas felicidades com o Linux.
 E um grande abraço a toda a comunidade.

   


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Manutenção do sistema

2009-10-22 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima



 Entendo, já teve uma discussão sobre isso recentemente aqui na lista, dá
 uma
 procurada. Mas vacina não é prevenção?

 2009/10/22 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@gmail.com


Hehehe, pra você ver como o jogo de palavras às vezes confundem a gente.
Vacina, é prevenção quando falamos, por exemplo, de vacinas contra a gripe.
Deve-se tomá-las *antes* de pegar a doença. Após isso, são antibióticos,
antitérmicos e analgésicos. No caso de vírus de computador, a prevenção é
feita com firewalls, anti-vírus e anti-spywares, mas como chamamos os
programas que curam? Eu chamo de vacina porque é o termo que sempre
utilizei, desde que uso computadores, mas se houver outro posso usar também.
É mais uma questão de semântica do que uma questão técnica.

Eu vi a discussão, mas não cheguei a ver se chegaram a uma conclusão sobre o
assunto. Depois procuro na lista.

Abraço.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot: IBM lança SO baseado em Linux

Em Qui, 2009-10-22 às 09:48 -0300, Jean Pierre Jochen escreveu:
 A IBM lançou nesta terça-feira, 21, um sistema operacional baseado em Linux
 chamado IBM Client for Smart Work
 ... o sistema operacional chega para concorrer com o
 Windows 7, da Microsoft, que será lançando na próxima quinta-feira, 22.

Impressionante como a MS correu para lançar o Seven... Isso é medo do
da Canonical e do Google? :b 
A Americanas já anunciou: Basic a 349, Premium a 399, Professional a 629
e Ultimate a 669 pratas com descontos no ItauCard e frete grátis...

Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 Linux User 496632


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot: IBM lança SO baseado em Linux

2009-10-22 Thread Allan Carvalho

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Salles escreveu:
 Em Qui, 2009-10-22 às 09:48 -0300, Jean Pierre Jochen escreveu:
 A IBM lançou nesta terça-feira, 21, um sistema operacional baseado em Linux
 chamado IBM Client for Smart Work
 ... o sistema operacional chega para concorrer com o
 Windows 7, da Microsoft, que será lançando na próxima quinta-feira, 22.
 
 Impressionante como a MS correu para lançar o Seven... Isso é medo do
 da Canonical e do Google? :b 
 A Americanas já anunciou: Basic a 349, Premium a 399, Professional a 629
 e Ultimate a 669 pratas com descontos no ItauCard e frete grátis...
 
 Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 Linux User 496632
 
 
E o browser do sistema de janelas continua perdendo força, veja em
http://gs.statcounter.com/

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot: IBM lança SO baseado em Linux

Em Qui, 2009-10-22 às 11:30 -0200, Allan Carvalho escreveu:
  Em Qui, 2009-10-22 às 09:48 -0300, Jean Pierre Jochen escreveu:
  A IBM lançou nesta terça-feira, 21, um sistema operacional baseado em Linux
  chamado IBM Client for Smart Work
  ... o sistema operacional chega para concorrer com o
  Windows 7, da Microsoft, que será lançando na próxima quinta-feira, 22.

 Salles escreveu:
  Impressionante como a MS correu para lançar o Seven... Isso é medo do
  da Canonical e do Google? :b 
  A Americanas já anunciou: Basic a 349, Premium a 399, Professional a 629
  e Ultimate a 669 pratas com descontos no ItauCard e frete grátis...

 E o browser do sistema de janelas continua perdendo força, veja em
 http://gs.statcounter.com/
 Allan Carvalho

Não se preocupe... Para a alegria dos Windows users, a MS encontrará uma
forma de impedir o uso de outros browsers, outros offices, outros
comunicadores... quem sabe eles também não impedem o uso do VM, do VB,
do wubi?
A MS já era motivo de piada... agora é motivo de gargalhadas.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot: IBM lança SO baseado em Linux

2009-10-22 Thread Tiago Dib

2009/10/22 Salles salles@gmail.com

 Em Qui, 2009-10-22 às 09:48 -0300, Jean Pierre Jochen escreveu:
  A IBM lançou nesta terça-feira, 21, um sistema operacional baseado em
 Linux
  chamado IBM Client for Smart Work
  ... o sistema operacional chega para concorrer com o
  Windows 7, da Microsoft, que será lançando na próxima quinta-feira, 22.

 Impressionante como a MS correu para lançar o Seven... Isso é medo do
 da Canonical e do Google? :b
 A Americanas já anunciou: Basic a 349, Premium a 399, Professional a 629
 e Ultimate a 669 pratas com descontos no ItauCard e frete grátis...


10 reais aqui na santa efigenia.

Lixo seven


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot: IBM lança SO baseado em Linux

Em Qui, 2009-10-22 às 11:38 -0200, Tiago Dib escreveu:
 2009/10/22 Salles salles@gmail.com
  Impressionante como a MS correu para lançar o Seven... Isso é medo do
  da Canonical e do Google? :b
  A Americanas já anunciou: Basic a 349, Premium a 399, Professional a 629
  e Ultimate a 669 pratas com descontos no ItauCard e frete grátis...

 10 reais aqui na santa efigenia.
 Lixo seven
 Tiago Dib

Hehehehehe já?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ot: IBM lança SO baseado em Linux

Esse SO, é o Ubuntu 8.04, com a adição da suite Lotus, e do VERDE, que é uma
VDI (Infraestrutura de Desktop Virtual) especial. A parceria é também com a
Red Hat.

2009/10/22 Salles salles@gmail.com

 Em Qui, 2009-10-22 às 11:38 -0200, Tiago Dib escreveu:
  2009/10/22 Salles salles@gmail.com
   Impressionante como a MS correu para lançar o Seven... Isso é medo do
   da Canonical e do Google? :b
   A Americanas já anunciou: Basic a 349, Premium a 399, Professional a
 629
   e Ultimate a 669 pratas com descontos no ItauCard e frete grátis...

  10 reais aqui na santa efigenia.
  Lixo seven
  Tiago Dib

 Hehehehehe já?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Site da Net, TVs e Radios Online n ão funcionam

Estranho aqui abre todos normalmente. Qual versão do Ubuntu utiliza? Tente
atualizar seu Firefox para a versão 3.5, talvez seja isso, e aliás ele está
bem mais rápido.

2009/10/22 Vitor . vag@gmail.com

 Muito Obrigado pela ajuda do pessoal.

 Estou um pouco sem tempo para mexer mas as poucos estou resolvendo os
 problemas do meu Ubuntu, que por sinal estou gostando muito.

 Já resolvia o Youtube, só algumas vezes que ele só funciona abrindo como
 pop-up, já resolvi a questão das rádios.

 O site da Net ainda não consigue resolver o problema, já instalei e
 desinstalei o Java, ou melhor os 2 que encontrei pelo gerenciador de
 pacotes, mas não funcionou ainda.

 O site do Makro também não, a caixa de seleção não vai de jeito nenhum.

 Para o meu uso está sendo muito bom.
 --
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 Blog Eletrontech: www.eletrontech.com


 2009/10/22 Daniel de Souza Telles blueandn...@gmail.com

  Se eu não me engano, a TV Terra usa o silverlight. Então você vai
 precisar
  instalar um pacote adicional:
 
  sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla
 
  2009/10/18 André Carioca andre.cari...@gmail.com
 
   Sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras gnome-mplayer
   geck-mediaplayer.
  
   Vai resolver todos os problemas citados.
  
   Em 17-10-2009 17:12, Vitor . escreveu:
Boa tarde!
   
Estou tentando navegar no site na Net (www.net.tv.br) porém não
  consigo
navegar corretamente, ele não deixa eu usar as caixas de seleção,
 estou
usando o Ubuntu e o FF 3.0
   
Não instalei ou desinstalei pacotes pois consegui resolver alguns
   problema
de vídeo do Youtube e não gostaria de mexer e estragar, infelizmente
 TV
Terra, TV UOL, Rádio UOL e essas coisas ainda não consegui resolver.
   
Gostaria de uma ajuda nisso.
   
Abraços
   
   
  
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Netbeans não reconhece teclas de ace ntuação