Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Countdown Script
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:55 PM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think I saw something about this on a different list, can't remember wjocj pne. maybe the loco-contacts, but you might want to check and see if someone already filed a bug report and add to that report. The product you are looking for is ubuntu-website. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marketing Team Members and Interested Parties, I'd like to report on the session we had here at UDS regarding Ubuntu Marketing so that we can get a wider audience and allow everyone a fair chance to share their ideas, point of view, or prospective solution on the undeniable reality that the way the current marketing team is setup simply isn't working. I know a number of us have been putting effort lately into re-jump starting the team or furthering specific marketing initiatives but because there has been a lack of an individual who has stepped forward to clearly champion Ubuntu marketing, not much progress has really been made in terms of making the team as a whole useful again. There is certainly no shortage of great, creative ideas... we just need to figure out how to get things moving - getting the ideas off the idea board and into production. This inconjuction with the observation that most loco teams seem to be doing an excellent job doing local (also known as street) marketing, the idea was put forward to disband the marketing team as we know it and move to a decentralized model where loco teams collectively makes up the Marketing Team. Before you object on principle, ask yourself What is the purpose of the marketing team?, What should it do? and I think that you'll see that the loco teams are the ones that are clearly fullfilling that role already. Another idea put forth was seeing Canonical hire someone to lead the marketing team while maintaining a model similar to the one existing. Marketing is a huge job and it is completely understandable why there is no one to step forward and why previous teams leaders have either burnt out or became busy with other things (Such as myself with Xubuntu and being a MOTU). If Canonical were to hire someone, they would have to be hired to fill the role of the community marketing team leader and not employed to promote Canonical or its services. For the individual to be useful and effective, they must simply be any regular, old community contributor who just happens to be able to fill that role with the support they are recieving from Canonical. Jono said that he was unsure if this would be able to materialize due to Canonical growing so fast in so many directions but we did learn from the Mozilla folks at the session that having someone(s) hired to work on the marketing seemed to be instrumental in generating the required momentum. Another interesting tidbit was that Jono said that if a marketing iniativie requires funds or resources (that are unreasonable for the loco team or individuals on the project to be able to obtain easily or via a bit of elbow polish) that they could contact him and he'll be able to assist them (ie. he'll get his wallet out... erm, as in he'll act as a liasion to get sponsorship from Canonical). A third option was to rebuild the marketing team using a similiar model to the current one but sourcing a loco team marketing contact from each loco team to build the new marketing team. Possible leadership for this new team discussed was the loco council. So, what is your opinion? Thoughts? Concerns? Ideas? Personally, although I was put off by the idea of disbanding the marketing team as we know it currently, once I had sometime to think about it I've come to think that maybe that would be a good idea. We certainly have to do something and I'm happy, as one of the last active marketing team admins, to faciliate what ever we decide to be the best course of option. Big thanks to Jono, Nick Ali, members of the Firefox/Mozilla teams, and other community contributors who took part in the UDS session. To conclude, I'd like to note a point that was brought up durring the session. People seemed to think that Canonical was an authority when it came to marketing Ubuntu and that everything has to be approved by them. Jono clarified this: Canonical is NOT an authority on marketing Ubuntu besides protecting their trademarks. So, please don't let that thought get in your way - we as the community have the power to make community marketing of Ubuntu successful and effective; it isn't Canonical's responsibility. :) I had always imagined that the marketing team should be a clearing house to get all the great stuff that loco teams produce, hence why I pushed so hard for the spreadubuntu stuff (which looked really good, although never finished). I am still firmly of the belief we need an easy to use site for loco teams to upload and share content, something like art.gnome.org but for banners, posters and the like. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Justin M. Wray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to throw in support for the idea, having a dedicated site would do wonders for content sharing. Something like a mix of a wiki + content managment. So that individuales (as well as locos) can share ideas and content. Yes. I think everyone has agreed and supported the idea from the very start. The problem is that it will only materialize if someone actually does the work to develop it. So, unfortunately giving a +1 isn't going to help get that done :( However, this thread is about discussing the future of the marketing team and not what we can do to improve our resource/content sharing infrastructure. You're welcome to start another thread on the subject if you feel it would benefit from discussion (although unless you're moving forward with the idea, I think you'll just be beating a dead horse). Thanks! Is the code for spreadubuntu floating around somewhere? The SpreadUbuntu wiki page has gone missing at some point. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Promoting Ubuntu at libraries?
snip So, before I meander way off topic: I can't possibly be the only one who has pondered promoting Ubuntu, in some way, at a public library. Any experiences, examples, related stories, screams of terror or links? Feel free to share! Others have pointed out the Ubuntu in Libraries project, which is a great thing. I wanted to add a point I made when the idea of promoting Ubuntu TO libraries, as opposed to IN libraries, and how they have little funding and little IT help, thus are usually quite conservative in terms of IT. Thus your best bet, like in schools, is to find a single champion and focus on the smaller libraries. Now if only I could find that post. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Question about Ubuntu on Dell
On 2/4/08, Retief de Villiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear sir/madam I do not know where to direct this question, but Dell does not offer any laptop with Ubuntu on laptops sold in South Africa. I really think this is tragic that this is the case in the country that, in a certain sense, can be considered as the birthplace of Ubuntu! Is there any way in which you could perhaps influence Dell to change this situation? The best person to contact is Dell itself. That being said, we could certainly organize something on the UWN/Fridge and with the LoCo team. Do you have time to organize such a thing? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] T-shirt design ideas
On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 2:01 AM, Kat Kinnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Hope you are well. At the moment I am working on a project to create new t-shirt designs for the Loco Conference Pack and to give away for free at events. The t-shirt designs that have been used in the past are fairly basic and only have the Ubuntu logo on the front and are in brown, so I'd like to make them a little more interesting. Currently we are putting the black t-shirts that we sell on the shop in the Loco pack, however we need a cheaper option and a design that has text on the front of the t-shirt. I am currently collecting ideas for the two t-shirt designs, before choosing something to go with. The only real limitation on the design being that I would like to have text on the front and probably the logo somewhere and maybe an Ubuntu logo on the back at the top. *Loco Conference Pack t-shirts for people who attend events* I have attached an 'Ubuntu guru' design that we have had created for the Loco packs to give you an idea. The design needs to be simple, and text based so that it cuts down on design costs. It is likely that we will go with this, but I'd be interested to see if anyone has any other ideas for the text. We are also trying to decide whether to go with black or chocolate brown, so it would be interesting to know what you think. I really like this. The simplicity is a great selling point for me. Too many tech t-shirts scream that they are tech. * T-shirts for Canonical to give away for free * In addition I would be interested to know if you have any ideas of what we could put on the front of the t-shirt that we will be giving away for free at events. The idea that I had, whilst at the Paris event this week was 'Spreading the love' where the o in love is the circle of friends logo. An idea: Making the circle wider But spreading the love is a fairly good slogan as well. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu/Linux survey. Preference and questions...
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Corey Burger wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, It's coming up to the one year anniversary of Full Circle Magazine and I'd like to hold a survey among the readers to see what they like/dislike about the magazine and also about Ubuntu and/or Linux. My first question is: what would be better: a PDF (that is fillable/tickable (did I just create a new word? :) ) and can be emailed to me) or: an online survey on our website that the readers could be directed to from the magazine. I was thinking of the PDF way but although Scribus can create PDF forms, ironically the resulting PDF requires Adobe Reader to display the form properly so that's no good. Any other apps that can create nice fillable/tickable PDF forms? Second question: as well as putting in questions related to the magazine (article likes/dislikes etc.) what would you folks like asked in a survey? I would love to see questions about participation in marketing/fridge/full circle (if they have considered it before and if they would consider it again). Ask them if they want to be contacted about specific projects. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu/Linux survey. Preference and questions...
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, It's coming up to the one year anniversary of Full Circle Magazine and I'd like to hold a survey among the readers to see what they like/dislike about the magazine and also about Ubuntu and/or Linux. My first question is: what would be better: a PDF (that is fillable/tickable (did I just create a new word? :) ) and can be emailed to me) or: an online survey on our website that the readers could be directed to from the magazine. I was thinking of the PDF way but although Scribus can create PDF forms, ironically the resulting PDF requires Adobe Reader to display the form properly so that's no good. Any other apps that can create nice fillable/tickable PDF forms? Second question: as well as putting in questions related to the magazine (article likes/dislikes etc.) what would you folks like asked in a survey? All input welcome! Is there a place that people can post/email the responses? If so, I can put up a story on the Fridge. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu/Linux survey. Preference and questions...
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, It's coming up to the one year anniversary of Full Circle Magazine and I'd like to hold a survey among the readers to see what they like/dislike about the magazine and also about Ubuntu and/or Linux. My first question is: what would be better: a PDF (that is fillable/tickable (did I just create a new word? :) ) and can be emailed to me) or: an online survey on our website that the readers could be directed to from the magazine. I was thinking of the PDF way but although Scribus can create PDF forms, ironically the resulting PDF requires Adobe Reader to display the form properly so that's no good. Any other apps that can create nice fillable/tickable PDF forms? Second question: as well as putting in questions related to the magazine (article likes/dislikes etc.) what would you folks like asked in a survey? All input welcome! Thanks! Now I will answer your questions. 1. I would do a webform, as it will give you faster results 2. Ask about each specific column (a lot of magazine surveys have this) Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Shift linux is now based on Ubuntu
On Jan 28, 2008 3:03 AM, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for information - another distro has decided to use ubuntu as a basis. http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04724 ' Shift Linux has moved away from its Morphix base and is now based on Ubuntu. ' http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=shift Shift Linux is a project that was created by the Neowin community. Based on Ubuntu, it has access to all of the software and applications as other Ubuntu-based distributions. Neo I imagine it will end up in the UWN, but would file a bug againt the ubuntu-website product to get it listed on the website? Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] How to market Ubuntu in a better way
On Jan 15, 2008 11:05 AM, Przemysław Kulczycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi fellow Ubunteros! I've found a great post on Digg, about problems with Ubuntu marketing: http://www.gobanquet.com/blog/index.php/why-ubuntu-804-needs-better-marketing/ Take a look at it, and if you have some spare time, then file some bugs about Ubuntu's website. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/ If only I had some time, then I would do it myself :( (I'm late with writing my thesis) Greetz Oh, the irony. What they are asking for in that blog post is already done, via the release announcements, although due to me burning out, they didn't really get done for the 7.10 release. See http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour for the 7.04 issue. So basically this is a case of us needing to market our marketing better. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] getting the Ubuntu and Linux laptop efforts to move forward
On Dec 20, 2007 12:34 PM, Tom M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all - who might be appropriate for contacting, (or what list) for coordinating an effort to update the laptop testing team page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam Having run the testing team for a while, I can say that the wiki really doesn't work well. That being said, I don't know that any sumitted reporting information is really truly useful. Laptop models change so quickly and so does Ubuntu hardware support. My thoughts are that a project should be arranged and then broadly advertised (Ie try and get slashdot, digg, etc. coverage) to have a specific meet up date for documenting as many laptops with current Ubuntu as possible (it could be coordinated with Fedora and other Linux creators/distributors as well, the more the merrier) and the various solutions and workarounds needed for each laptop. It would be good to have representatives from Canonical, as well as driver (ATI, NVidia) and kernel driver representatives on hand and possibly representatives of the laptop manufacturers. This is conflating two issues. The LaptopTestingTeam is truly for two purposes: 1. find bugs and fix them 2. show how well a particular model works in Ubuntu. There was some talk about showing manufacturuers that it just works, but a wiki page really isn't going to convince them, IMHO. Not to mention we are pretty much past the should be offer Linux on our machines stage. We are now into the which one should we offer stage. Nearly every major hardware vendor already does or will soon be offering pre-installed Linux on their computers. Of course to accomplish this would likely require some assistance from Canonical/Ubuntu upper management. And no, this kind of effort does not need the support of Canonical or Ubuntu upper management (does that mean me, as I sit on the CC? I have never thought of myself as upper management). All you need is a couple of people to dedicate a couple of hours emailing all the people on the testing page, cleaning up old pages, etc. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Dethroning Ubuntu - nice article
On Dec 7, 2007 4:17 AM, Przemysław Kulczycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a nice article on the net: Dethroning Ubuntu -- What Would It Take? http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/article.php/31771_3714986_1 It talks about strong and weak points of Ubuntu and about making a successful product in general. It could be added to the next UWN. I agree it is an interesting article, but I wouldn't call it nice simply because it has some major holes. Most of the discussion of pre-installed Linux is somewhat correct but the the key thing to remember that is most hardware manufacturers are currently throwing Linux at the wall to see what sticks. I widely expect there to be consolidation in the next year or so. Building a good OS is hard and expensive work. This is where Ubuntu Mobile can come in. I suspect that the UI for Ubuntu Mobile would work great on an Asus EEE, for instance. The 2nd major gap covers that of other Linux distros. He talks about lot of technical matters and ignores the community and the very sucessful community building aspects that surround Ubuntu. It is a major reason for our success. You will note how OpenSUSE and Fedora are copying large parts of our community infrastructure, because it works. The last line in the article cast the whole in a bad light. It talks about how Flash and Java violate the GPL. This is utterly false. Ubuntu (or any distro) could have and some have, shipped non-free Flash or Java if they wanted. It violates no licenses. However, it does violate our ethical stance. Nor does he talk about all the free Java work being done right now. Basically, in sum, a poorly researched article with a few good points. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Idea: Dell FREEDOM Box - A Fully Open System for Home Users by 2010
On Nov 30, 2007 8:55 PM, Danny Piccirillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's something posted to IdeaStorm just a couple days ago but it has already reached the IdeaStorm front page and received 500+ votes in favor. With 430+ Diggs, could it hit the top 10 tomorrow? http://digg.com/linux_unix/Dell_FREEDOM_Box_A_Fully_Open_System_for_Home_Users_by_2010 Ugh, Digg. Tell Dell to set a goal of having at least one fully open system for home users by the end of 2010! This would be Dell's greatest endeavor yet! The Dell FREEDOM Box | From the software, all the way down to the hardware, a completely open system It may seem like a idealistic, but isn't it worth supporting? Thoughts? How do you imagine Dell *could* turn something like this into a huge success? A win for Dell and the Open Source community? Dell has repeatedly publicly stated that they are working with to get usptreamed (vanilla kernel) drivers for everything they ship. Basically, they have a few braincells and they realize that maintaining out of tree drivers costs money, something that nobody in the hardware business has much to spare, because margins are so tight. As such, yes, I think we should keep up the quiet pressure, but I think they understand the issue are already working towards it. I rather suspect it will be well before 2010 that we will see this. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] gOS - worth being aware of!
On Nov 14, 2007 11:47 AM, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just used a gos live cd and think I have seen the future of computing for basic users! I am not surprised that the walmart stock quickly sold out. Based on ubuntu, the simplicity of a broadband (wired) connection, a modern but low end machine, and google based applications, it is attractive, functional and simple. It will attract a mass market of non technical ordinary users who know they will be happy with the basics. Ubuntu is well concealed so the users will seek support - if they find they need it - from the gos help list. However, it will be useful to encourage anyone who is willing to help, to drop into the gos help (list?) to encourage the widening use of (ubuntu based) linux. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Given the Ubuntu Mobile stack is going to have a simpler UI, I wonder if we can't push that as a basic interface. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Christmas Marketing Campaign
On Nov 8, 2007 5:31 PM, Philip Newborough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've had an idea for a Christmas marketing campaign to replace last month's Countdown to Gutsy. I've blogged about it here: http://crunchbang.org/archives/2007/11/08/a-merry-ubuntu-christmas/ I'd be interested to know what people think about this -- whether it's a good idea? etc. Also, if the campaign gets some support and starts to fly what are the chances of getting a dedicated landing page on the ubuntu.com domain? Cheers Philip Newborough I like it. Can you create graphics for Kwanzaa and Hanukkah? As for getting a landing page, do we need one? Getubuntu works fine for that. Getting the graphic up on ubuntu.com is another matter. I have cc'ed Matthew Nuzum (the Canonical web guy) to get his opinion. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu in schools - Saint Stephen's School Open House - Lessons learned and questions
On 11/1/07, Joseph Guarino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, We had quite the success with the open house at Saint Stephen's Armenian Elementary School yesterday. Many thanks to the efforts of Michael Selva, the school administrator for bringing this great success forward. In attendance were a dozen from local schools, people from the local MA LoCO and Mark Shuttleworth. W There are no hard and fast numbers for any deployments of any type of Linux. It is one of the most vexing things for marketing Linux in general. However, I would ask on the #edubuntu-users lists to see what sort of schools run Ubuntu/Edubuntu. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Let People Know the Wireless Devices that Work with Ubuntu Could Help with Marketing
On 10/29/07, Ez Tips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I would like to know if anyone is keeping track of the WIFI devices that work with Ubuntu. Before someone snarls about this being off topic for the marketing group, think about how many people need to use wireless networks and how telling them to go and figure it out themselves is just going to scare them away from Linux. Hopefully someone is already doing something like this or there is a Wifi team that can help with this. I would be happy to collect the information about the devices that work and what software needs to be used to install them. The best devices of course would be ones that you can just plug them in and they just work. Well, this is actually pretty easy: Broadcom - works with firmware, now easy with restricted manager Atheros - works ootb (mostly) Intel - works ootb Others - unknown Now, these are chipsets, not end user visible names (link dlink, linksys, etc.). That is a much more difficult thing to figure out. The best way is for them to simply try Ubuntu :) Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The ubuntu.com website
On 10/28/07, Martin Ahnelöv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I'll make this quick and to the point. I'm sorry if ubuntu-marketing isn't the right place for this email: in that case, please forward it to the correct instance. From my experience, Ubuntu.com looks a bit weird in - at least - IE6 (I don't know about IE7, but I've heard that it uses the same rendering engine as the one in IE6). Since we are trying to sell an alternative product, we'll have to make sure that people using competing systems and browsers can reach us so we can win them over. So, could the code be looked over so that it is presentable even on MS-products? Things (from the top of my head) that is a bit damaged (you can probably spot some more): * PNG-transparency. * Some images overlapping text. * Div-tag positioning/size-errors. Some pages I noted it on (but I'm sure there is more): * http://www.ubuntu.com/ * http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition I'm sorry about the sparse information, but I do not have any Windows-computer available at the moment. Can you spot any errors (that haven't been mentioned)? Who should be contacted about this issue? The best place to fix issues in the website is to file a bug against the ubuntu-website https://www.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/ Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] ITWire story submission
On 10/22/07, Robin Jakobsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool article! But how do I find Ubuntu Media Center? Robin The plan currently is to incluce Elisa, which is currently under heavy development. I widely expect it to become stable in the Hardy lifecycle. http://elisa.fluendo.com/ Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] 'new' CD stand.
On 10/18/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Wood wrote: Hi all, I've been playing with the design of the DIY CD Stand. An SVG containing my changes can be found here: http://www.mungewell.org/linux/cd_stand.svg The improvements are: * Only requires single side printing. * Self documenting, multilingual. * Is more stable (although still needs some sticky tape to prevent the back unfolding). I'd love it if someone could solve/remove the requirement for any glue/sticky tape. Released to the community for adjustment and improvement. Go Ubuntu!! Simon Wood. thanks Simon, I would like to try it but I am having difficulty managing svg, or at least having difficulty printing it. Any advice please? Try Inkscape. The latest versions in Gutsy can also print to PDF, which might fix your printing problems. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Tour of Ubuntu 7.10?
On 10/16/07, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, For Ubuntu 7.04, we had a tour on the website: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour, based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/7.04Tour. Is anyone working on a tour for Ubuntu 7.10? That was mine. I suppose something could be constructed of the Gutsy beta stuff plus the 10 Rocking Features.. articles I have been writing on the Fridge. I might get around to this in about 24 hours time. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Screencasts
On 10/10/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 18:36 -0700, Corey Burger wrote: The screencasts stuff has been cool beans for a very long time. However, is there a reason you have chosen not to put them on the Fridge? I just didn't want to annoy people with spamming the fridge with them. They are already syndicated on planet ubuntu. Figured that was enough. An announcement was indeed posted to the fridge during August, but I figured it was too much to keep posting updates. Cheers Al. Ah, ok. What about creating a story once per week, showcasing all the screencasts that have been created that week? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Does any one have a video testimonial?
On 10/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone point me to a link for Ubuntu Video Testimonial more specific to India/Asia? I tried Ubuntu India on Youtube and could not really find any results. Something like the one available at the URL below (covers Suse) would be great as the community can utilize it whenever possible to create awareness in the enterprises. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_g72GcaIdc Rajesh AFAIK, no such thing exists, sadly. Got any time and would like to make one for us? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Status of the Spread Ubuntu Project?
On 10/5/07, NurseGirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be great if thaht project could be finished and put online. What needs to happen to get the site online? The last site draft that was up looked great. NurseGirl I honestly have no idea. I don't even know where the code is hosted, although I believe it is on Launchpad somewhere. Can somebody fill us in here? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Screencasts
On 10/9/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 19:35 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: The Screencasts Team are doing amazing work on screencasts for Ubuntu Gutsy, and they will launch a Month of Screencasts in 8 days. The ringleader is Alan Pope, cc'd. Just to clarify. The month of screencasts has been running since the start of September - we're overrunning due to lack of time/team, but still cranking them out. (Mark saw the countdown and thought we were counting _down_ _to_ the Month of Screencasts). I'd like to get both Canonical marketing and Ubuntu marketing aligned so that we can draw attention to this superb effort with the right audiences. Can you guys (#canonical) have a quick call with Alan to get the background on his efforts, and then perhaps continue this thread with how we can raise the profile of it? I think it would be very well received if we present it carefully. I appreciate any help from the Canonical side. I'd be happy to have a chat with you guys tomorrow (now today) or whenever you guys are available. We still have slots available, so if there's any particular message you want to get over, or any parts of the product you'd like highlighting, let me know. Cheers, Al. The screencasts stuff has been cool beans for a very long time. However, is there a reason you have chosen not to put them on the Fridge? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Windows Home Server
On 10/4/07, Dalton Miyabara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any version of Ubuntu to work as a HTPC (Home Theater Personal Computer)? If we don´t have it, I think we should create a version that could be used for this area too. So the final package would be like this: Desktop , HTPC and Home Server Ubuntu versions. Cheers Dalton There is the Ubuntu Media Centre team, which is working on Elisa support. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Audio UWN
On 10/2/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:14:36PM -0400, Nick Ali wrote: On 10/2/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The interviews would be of people in the Ubuntu community - developers and so on. The logistics of this are tricky given the majority of people are all over the place (with some people in one or two locations). We could do what they do on TV, just put up a picture of the person talking on the phone. Or maybe the person being interviewed over the phone could record themselves and just send the video to be edited as needed. It wouldn't matter if the quality wasn't great, everyone is used to the low-grade YouTube videos. I was thinking of recording them in nice HD720p for real life stuff, and ekiga (eating own dogfood again) for online chats with remote people. The ekiga stuff I could record as a screencast so you'd see an Ubuntu desktop as the backdorp with Ekiga running normally on top. That way you get to stay in 720p but with two (say 320x240) webcam sized windows for the remote interview. Might have to test that. Cheers, Al. Very cool idea. As jokosher grew out of Lugradio, maybe this could help spur development of Pitivi. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] video editing
On 10/2/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Corey, On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 15:47 -0700, Corey Burger wrote: Very cool idea. As jokosher grew out of Lugradio, maybe this could help spur development of Pitivi. Thanks. Video editing is indeed a bane under Linux. I contacted the MainActor guys recently to ask what the community would need to do in order to get them to open source their video editor. They responded quickly, but are busy so said they'd get back to me in a couple of weeks. Fingers crossed there. The advantage of Pitivi over MainActor is that Pitivi uses the all the gnonlin editor stuff that jokosher uses as well. One of the main reasons that Pitivi isn't where Jokosher is because the main Pitivi dev, whose name I am forgetting, is also the main gnonlin dev and the Jokosher guys kept him busy fixing gnonlin bugs. And Jono is a great community builder. In general, apps with just get open-sourced do very badly in terms of community, mostly because the devs of such an app are not used to working with the community and the very different ways the community develops vs a closed shop (even if it is freeware). At last UDS I was chatting with one of the fluendo guys and there was talk of many improvements to Pitivi which is of course useful to know, but 5 months on there's been nothing of note in terms of releases:- http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pitivi/0.10/ I'd personally put my hand in my pocket and sponsor development of an iMovie for Linux if others did the same, and we had a realistic chance of getting a product out at the end. What does one do in that situation? Well, I think the main Pitivi dev is currently out of work, as he left Fluendo. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Schoolbooks?
On 8/15/07, Iwan Vosloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. I've been lurking on this list for a while now, but am still unsure if this is the right place for this mail... but I do think this is a marketing opportunity. I have been asked by a local (local == South Africa) publisher to write a school textbook for Grade 10 for Information Technology. This is essentially introductory stuff about computers, software, OSses, databases, spreadsheets and (mostly) programming. And it needs to follow the curriculum strictly. (The books are first assessed by the government before schools are allowed to use them.) To write such a book, you need to know which software is in use at the schools to be able to show them things and let them to practical activities. All the other textbooks from competing publishers always exclusively talk about Windows, Access, MSWord and Excel. For a programming language you have to stick to Java or Delphi - the latter of which is also easier to use as introductory language, but is also only available on Windows. I could not stomach the fact that schools are forced in this subtle way to use proprietary programs. I have no idea what tuxlabs schools do in this regard... So I convinced the publisher that we need to (at the very least) cover both worlds, the proprietary and the OSS. And for the latter I'm using Ubuntu, OpenOffice, and BeanShell (for Java). (We included an Edubuntu screenshot here and there as well.) I thought it would be really cool if we could also distribute an Ubuntu (or Edubuntu) CD with the book, and possibly print instructions in the book for getting such CDs (from shipit?). And this is the reason for posting on the marketing list... Any ideas on how one can go about doing this? Any support available from Canonical? Posting the shipit address is free. As for actually getting cds, for that you would need to email shipit directly. I know they sell cds at cost, so that might be the best route for you to follow. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Marketing Videos
On 8/14/07, Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Offlist, since I won't add much to my previous post. On 14/08/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back on list. Sorry, the marketing list confuses me! I keep forgetting you have to cc it back in when your reply to a post --- Doh. I don't think so: rather, I think you've missed the point of ubuntuvideo.com! Although it has a category for informational videos, it is also intended to host marketing videos: note that it appears under the MarketingTeam wiki page as a project. I've not missed the point mate ;-) I just disagree with you! That's fine: what you said in the passage from your email which I quoted about informational videos led me to believe that you might have. I've spoken to a few people on and off list about this, and using ubuntuvideo.com has never surfaced as an idea. In fact, this email was preceded by a conversation with Corey off list about domain registration and hosting for a new site. That's also fine: Corey may also not have considered the idea of using an existing initiative with similar goals for the project. You are completely right. I forgot about Ubuntuvideo.com. Now that i remember it, provided we can get John to jump on board, it would make an excellent home for this idea. Cheers from Germany, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Fwd: Ubuntu Marketing Videos
On 8/15/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't accept that drupal (which is the software used by ubuntuvideo.com) has the appropriate features which this project needs, then it's important for you to explain why, because so far you haven't done so. Also, you should address our point that creating an entire site from scratch will be more difficult than extending the existing site using recognised plugins which have the relevant features, not to mention the fact that developing a website which overlaps with an existing one dilutes the effect of both. It's not that, Drupal is fine - I'm having a bad day! I'm sure some Drupal expert (should one wish to come forward!) can help point us in the right direction. I just had a different idea in my head of how this would happen. I'll get over it. Handing down direction is an ugly phrase: the issue in this thread should be discussed by the whole team and a consensus will come out of that discussion. Getting hands dirty is a separate question. Regardless of the outcome of the issue being discussed in this thread (i.e. software / url to use for this project), the project will still require people to contribute, especially yourself (as Alan points out). Hopefully, reusing an existing site will mean that the getting hands dirty part can be focused less on the creation of the host and more on the creation and circulation of the videos themselves. OK, fair enough. Absolutely right. It would be a real shame for you to be discouraged by anything in this thread. Working in a free software community requires a good amount of patience and compromise. Since I've been involved in the Ubuntu community, I've been knocked back a number of times when an idea which I was *so* sure was completely watertight wasn't accepted by others; each time I've come to understand that in fact that was either because I hadn't presented it properly or because it wasn't as watertight as I thought: in any event it's very important to understand that discussion like this enriches the project rather than damages it. -- Matthew East I'm having a bad day Matthew. I shouldn't reply to emails on a bad day, I wish I hadn't bothered :-P Lets see if we can get ubuntuvideos.com involved (anyone know the chap running it?) and see if we can move forward now. Yay! It is ok to have bad days and to wonder if a project you are leading is going in the right direction. I am just happy that there is somebody with the time to take this very cool idea and run with it. On more a practical note, the person behind Ubuntuvideo.com is John Little, who I haven't heard from recently. I think his email is listed on ubuntuvideo.com Cheers from Germany, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Internet Market
On 8/3/07, Dalton Miyabara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cópia: ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Data: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:10:41 -0700 Assunto: [Spam] Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Television Market, Orlando FLorida USA On 8/1/07, Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Day All: Yesterday, I meet with the advertising staff of the local ABC TV station in Orlando Florida. They put on a nice 60 minute presentation on using television effectively to promote business and their rate card for a 12 month campaign for peak hours. One of the things that surprised me was peak was during the 6 o'clock news hour for local television, not the prime hours of 8-11. Anyway if Canonical was interested in using television to promote Ubuntu in the Orlando television market I would be glad to pass along the name my contact at Channel 9 in Orlando. In addition to the 2 or 3 million people that live in the area. We are the largest tourist destination in America and have a large number of people from the northeast, the mid-west and Canada that spread winters here. Along with people from the south that visit our beach's in the summer. For a mid-five figure number in US Dollars you could reach all of them 540 times over the course of a year during peak time. I seriously doubt Canonical is going to do any sort of advertising on TV any time soon. The only Ubuntu ads I have seen were in Silicon Valley, opposite the Oracle HQ. In general marketing terms, advertising is a dying art. People are increasingly tuning out ads and thus the return on them is dropping off, sometimes quite precipitiously. Corey Hi, we could create something in TV format but to share over the internet in channels like Youtube and others that work with online broadcast. The production of the ad could be done by the art team together with the marketing team. But to hit more viewers, the ad must be very creative, something that attract people to watch and spread the ad. I had some ideas, but it need to be fine tunned: - someone working in a word process and suddenly an warning message... MiCosoft Genuine Advantage (or something similar)... alerting that he need to activate the program and bla bla bla... close the scene, and say - tired of those alerts, bugs and bla bla bla... change to something better, and free. Ubuntu... (show some images of Ubuntu enviroment, the software included) and finishes with the logo and a functional link to the ubuntu website. But, maybe this idea would work in countries like Brazil and others were people can´t buy an original OS (because of the high taxes in products) for their computers, and buy pirated or copy it from friends. Ubuntu would be well accepted as an alternative to any Microsoft Windows. Ok, my text was a little bit confusing, but resuming, I think that we could use the idea to create an ad, but to share in the web. Dalton I would love to create a contest much like Mozilla ran a year or so ago, to get as many community people involved as possible. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Testing wiki page for Tribe 4
On 8/3/07, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, The fourth Tribe is about to be born next Thursday. It would be lovely if someone could create a new testing page [1]? Things that I see are worth mentioning from the Gnome side: - Gnome 2.19.6 - scrollkeeper replaced by rarian (much faster on package install, but I don't have much more info) - ConsoleKit and Fast-User-Switch-Applet by default (will happen todayish) - tracker installed by default (will happen today) - Gnome keyring PAM integration: if keyring and login password are equal, keyring won't ask again any more - AppArmor installed by default now (no profiles, though, just the infrastructure) - New language packs For Kubuntu we should definitively mention the availability of KDE4 beta 1 in universe. Thanks a lot in advance, and have a good weekend! Martin [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4 I will get started on this this weekend. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Television Market, Orlando FLorida USA
On 8/1/07, Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Day All: Yesterday, I meet with the advertising staff of the local ABC TV station in Orlando Florida. They put on a nice 60 minute presentation on using television effectively to promote business and their rate card for a 12 month campaign for peak hours. One of the things that surprised me was peak was during the 6 o'clock news hour for local television, not the prime hours of 8-11. Anyway if Canonical was interested in using television to promote Ubuntu in the Orlando television market I would be glad to pass along the name my contact at Channel 9 in Orlando. In addition to the 2 or 3 million people that live in the area. We are the largest tourist destination in America and have a large number of people from the northeast, the mid-west and Canada that spread winters here. Along with people from the south that visit our beach's in the summer. For a mid-five figure number in US Dollars you could reach all of them 540 times over the course of a year during peak time. I seriously doubt Canonical is going to do any sort of advertising on TV any time soon. The only Ubuntu ads I have seen were in Silicon Valley, opposite the Oracle HQ. In general marketing terms, advertising is a dying art. People are increasingly tuning out ads and thus the return on them is dropping off, sometimes quite precipitiously. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Singapore Charity to use Edubuntu desktops for computer lab
On 7/23/07, Anand Vaidya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Club Rainbow(http://www.clubrainbow.org/) is a charity that provides compassionate relevant services for terminally ill children in Singapore. The Singapore Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/5/), an informal meetup of linux enthusiasts, led by Darrel Chua, commissioned a computer learning lab for the kids. Guess which distro was chosen? If you picked Edubuntu, you are right! SLMG members collected hardware (computers donated by Overseas Family School and National University of Singapore), and some hardware donated by members, fixed hardware problems and installed Edubuntu on all the machines. The lab comprises of a HP server which also servers as the network gateway. Currently there are about 10 desktops ready with multimedia for the kids to explore. SLMG members also intend to provide Edubuntu/Linux training to the staff and a fun-filled introduction to using Edubuntu to the kids. Encouraged by the project's success, SLMG is looking forward to working with other charities to implement Linux based computer labs. You can view the discussion thread here: http://linux.meetup.com/5/messages/boards/view/viewthread?thread=3306966 or some photos here: http://linux.meetup.com/5/photos/?photoAlbumId=189831photoId=1759723op=defaultAlbum Regards Anand Vaidya Anand, Thanks for your story. Sorry about the delayed reply. I will get a Fridge story written soonish. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu from a CIO's POV
On 8/1/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article has just been posted to /. http://www.cio.com/article/print/126702 It's well worth reading as a well balanced review of Ubuntu from the perspective of the Chief Information Officer of a large organisation. Cheers Chris The only bit that baffles me about that article is his assumption that SUSE is better for thin clients, given Ubuntu and LTSP were practicly made for each other. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Suggestion for the weekly letters
On 7/28/07, Martin Albisetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guillaume: I appreciate the suggestion, and at one point we did have them, but it got too hard to maintain on a weekly basis, and it's very irregular (depends on what stage of the release cycle Ubuntu is). I'm CCing Corey Burger to see if he can think of some sort of compromise. Would you like to volunteer and help if we implement this? I would absolutely love to include them again, but I simply no longer have the time and was finding that it was taking about 2 to 3 hours per week to do a good writeup. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Team meeting
Hey all, Once again, the clock rolls around to a marketing team meeting. There are a number of topics up for discussion: 1. Getting people interesting in doing the Tribe pages without me 2. Introduction of Katharine Kinnie, Canonical's new marketing manager 3. Questions the community has of her 4. Questions she has of us 5. Anything else As for a date, Kat is interested in next week, which works for me. It looks the best time is Thursday, 13th of July, at 09:00 UTC. Does this time and date work for everybody else? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing efforts and leaflets
On 6/20/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, This message has been posted to Ubuntu-UK Ubuntu Marketing because I'm hoping that there are people subscribed to both lists with thoughts on this subject. With Software Freedom Day around the corner (September 15th) I've been pondering upon the subject of how to reel in the punters. I'm guessing that SFD 2007 will be accompanied by many a cheerful free software advocate out on the streets punting the benefits of using Ubuntu to the average Joe and Jane, and I'm thinking that a concerted marketing effort to underpin this can only help make these advocates more successful. We've talked about leaflets at Ubuntu-UK, and between us have come up with a couple of things that are not half bad. I think that the most important thing that I've learnt so far though is that there are a lot things we take for granted that Joe and Jane mightn't think about. Why is this important? I think we need to understand Joe and Jane a little better to be able to flog Ubuntu to them. Take a look at the 'selling interview' for instance: http://perso.orange.fr/pgreenfinch/mkting/mkting14 The most important steps which underpin the entire process are understanding the customer, asking questions, clarifying, I think that the author mentions elsewhere 'falling in love with the customer a little bit!'. Sometimes it feels to me a little bit like we're jumping straight in a the deep end, without doing this preparation work. If we can develop a good profile of Joe and Jane and deliver marketing aimed entirely at them, and not what we think they want (or what we'd like to deliver ourselves) I reckon we might be able to sell Ubuntu a little better. Comments, opinions or ways to take this forward anyone? In past my job I was a salesperson. I even sold desktop Linux. It was hard. But I digress. The key point to make a sale is to discover a pain point. If you can discover that pain point, such as a crashing browser, or a slow computer, you have a hook. One key point to remember here is that not everybodies pain is identical. In fact, by hammering on one pain while in fact they have another is a great way to lose somebody. For example, if you constantly talking about viruses and in fact they are merely tired with MS Office crashing and you never ask about it, you have likely lost that person. Now you need to make certain that you can win. This involves asking about what exactly they do with their computer and making certain that the product (in this case Ubuntu) can meet their need. This involves a conversation wherein you are trying to get them to give up as much information as possible, while revealing as few limitations as possible. A key part of this conversation is that you must not make people think that their are limitations to your software. Even if somebody only ever drove 35 km each day, nobody would buy a car that only goes 50 km, because they might want to go further some day. Now, this is where salespeople get a terrible rap. Although I never lied to customers, I never brought up stuff like OO.o not completely opening all MS Office files, or Windows apps not running. I don't think that is dishonest. Honestly. Planting doubt in somebodies mind is never going to win anybody. What I just described is not evil and it is really about intent. You are getting them a superior product and you are not taking money from them. But remember, you are a salesperson. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Hi List
On 6/19/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, Just a quick email to say hello and quickly introduce myself. My name is Chris, I'm a member of the Ubuntu-UK loco team and I thought I'd take a leap and see if there where any skills that I could offer to the marketing team too. I've had a lot of fun recently working on an Ubuntu promotion leaflet, and have been positively inspired by the level of cross working and integration that's taken place whilst building it. If you'd like to take a look - that work in progress is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Leaflets?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=leaflet2_withgraphics_0.1_chris_rowson.pdf Anyway - don't want to be too scatty in my first post, so that's about it for now! Cheers Chris Chris, Welcome and that is pretty cool work. As an aside, I would really like to see the DIY stuff get up so that nice things like this can have a better home than the wiki. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] In The Press
Thanks for your email. I will add it to the next UWN. Corey On 6/19/07, Andi Darmawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All marketing team, FYI, an Indonesian Linux Magazine called InfoLINUX is giving a DVD that contains iso file for Ubuntu 7.04 (Desktop, Alternate and Server), Kubuntu 7.04, Edubuntu Server and Edubuntu Add-On. In the magazine they also have an article about How to setup LTSP system in easy way and Ubuntu 7.04 Tips and Tricks. The magazine is in Indonesian. Here's the link to the magazine's website (in Indonesian): http://www.infolinux.web.id/sections.php?op=listarticlessecid=103 -- Andi Belutz Darmawan http://www.belutz.net -- Ubuntu-marketing-submissions mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing-submissions -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] fullcircle #1 - ready for Marketing perusal...
On 6/7/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Corey, On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 04:51:45AM -0700, Corey Burger wrote: In the future, how do we make certain wiki-based editing is better done and gets into the magazine? Is there another place that first level editing should be done? I think the subject of publicly editing has been discussed here (and on the forums, and on irc) before. The general consensus then was that editing on the wiki means the magazine content (or potential content) is then public which means that there is less surprise when the magazine comes out. In addition some contributors were very much against others being able to edit their submissions. Not my point of view, just forwarding summary of past conversations. Right. I respect the 2nd argument, because I can understand where they are coming from. Although as an good writer knows, a good editor is your lifeline. I am not sold on the whole splashy launch bit. 99% of the people who are going to read this magazine, given its high quality, are never going to venture near the Ubuntu wiki, let alone start hacking around for a story scoops. And you know what, if they are? Let 'em. We might be able to turn them into writers and win contributors, which is the truly key battle. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Testing wiki page for Tribe 1
On 6/1/07, Corey Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/1/07, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello marketing team! As a short intro, I will manage the releases of the Gutsy testing milestones now, since Tollef is busy with the Mobile project. The first testing milestone for Gutsy Gibbon, called 'Tribe 1' is ahead and planned for next Thursday. It would rock if you could create a web page for it [1], similar to the ones we had in Feisty [2]. The bare frame of the page is now up at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutstyGibbon/Tribe1 Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] ubuntu-news team
On 5/29/07, Martin Albisetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/29/07, Jono Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Will creating this new time gut the marketing team? I wonder this too - I think the marketing team needs to be primarily orientated around outreach and promotion, whereas the ubuntu-news team is about news management for the community. So, in the nutshell -marketing for communications outside the community, -news for inside the community. Make sense? I agree it makes sense, but I also think that internal and external news frequently overlaps, and it would be a shame to unify some resources, and dived others. Maybe -news team should be a sub-team of -marketing? Maybe their should be some explicit effort to keep both teams in sync? I'm worried about all the knowledge you gather, for example, by researching weekly for the UWN is not invested into the release notes of Gutsy. I do strongly agree this is the right move, I just want to make sure we don't break anything in the process. Martin Alright, so Martin kicked the ball going here and got an irc channel up and running at #ubuntu-news. We chatted and the best division is probably this: -news: UWN, Fridge, ubuntu.com news -marketing:DIY, alpha/beta release notes, tours, etc. Here are the bits that need to be decided: - What to do with the fridge-devel mailing list? - What to do with the marketing-submissions mailing list? My gut feeling would be to make fridge-devel the ubuntu-news-team mailing list, turn off the free submit and then make the -marketing-submissions into -marketing-news-submissions to cover both marketing and news inbound information. The reason I say keep one submissions mailing list is that people sending stuff in are likely to have no idea how we are going to use this information. Anyway, just my thoughts. If they don't make sense, I blame the painkillers I am on, as I just had my wisdom teeth out. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] ubuntu-news team
The idea would be to have an ubuntu-news team, which would in fact just group all of us working on UWN, The Fridge, Ubuntu.com News and FullCircle. Most of the current projects members overlap, as the news stories do, so something useful for The Fridge, might also be useful for UWN. I think instead of having a *very spammed* open mailing list, we should have a simple form on a webpage with a CAPTCHA like mechanism to avoid spam bots. It's a much easier to submit then mailing a list (you can bookmark it, and doesn't require you to open a mail client). Ugh, no. You need to have a mailing list AND a webform. The whole idea behind -marketing-submissions is for it to cover both, as I have explained several times. I would like the mailing list to be used for receiving the web form's input, and members to propose and discuss news, so everybody else knows about it and can add it to their project if they find it interesting. If spam did not exist I would agree with you. So better to have two lists, one to collect the original sending with a reply-to to the 2nd list, the actual main discussion list. I believe the news team should actually be a team itself, instead of focusing on each project, where, for example on the UWN, there's just really Corey, Nick and me as regulars, and some sporadic contributions. Yep Having -news work as a team itself would probably make it easier for members to cross over to other projects and contribute to them. Ok, thus from this we end up with four lists: ubuntu-marketing -Remains the discussion point for the marketing team ubuntu-news-team -Discussion point for the new -news team ubuntu-news -Remains the sending point for the UWN and FullCircle, plus other news (this is merely for the actual sending of the news, the distributiion) ubuntu-marketing-news-submissions -Changes name slightly and becomes the primary focal point for all inboudn information, either for the UWN, the Fridge or other marketing and news projects. Lumped together so as not to confuse people. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] fullcircle #1 - ready for Marketing perusal...
On 6/3/07, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a long time coming but it's finally here! full circle - issue #1 is now ready for the Marketing Team to read before release. I've put this pre-release up on : http://www.ronnietucker.co.uk/fullcircle-issue01-english.pdf Unless there are any objections it will be released to the unsuspecting public within a few days. With our sever melting a few hours later. ;P Enjoy the issue. Deadline for issue #2 is Sunday 17th June with a projected release date of 29th June. Ronnie, Nice work. I will take a look at it tomorrow. As for hosting, I am fairly certain we can get it on ubuntu.com for the actual download. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Testing wiki page for Tribe 1
On 6/1/07, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello marketing team! As a short intro, I will manage the releases of the Gutsy testing milestones now, since Tollef is busy with the Mobile project. The first testing milestone for Gutsy Gibbon, called 'Tribe 1' is ahead and planned for next Thursday. It would rock if you could create a web page for it [1], similar to the ones we had in Feisty [2]. There are no gutsy targeted specs implemented yet, but there's a new Gnome, a new kernel, and the wealth of new Debian packages. The changes from the latter are much bigger now than in Feisty's Herd-1 times now that Etch has been released and unstable development goes full steam ahead again. Matthew, this would eventually need to move to [2]. Is there any problem with putting moin pages on the new drupal web site? Thanks muchly, Martin I see we have a few days, so I will work on it this weekend. Let me see who else I can rouse up to give me a hand. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Team meeting
Oh, I forgot to mention this will be in #ubuntu-meeting, the usual place. Corey On 5/25/07, Corey Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/22/07, Freddy Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does this Saturday, 20:00 UTC, work for everybody? That puts it late evening Europe time and mid afternoon North American time. In absence of other objections, this is now our time: Marketing Team Meeting: 20:00 UTC Saturday, May 26, 2007 (in case you were uncertain about the year) Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] full circle magazine: meeting #1!
On 5/23/07, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well... we'll have our meeting this Saturday at 6pm(UK) and i'll mention at the meeting that a marketing meeting will be happening soon just to forewarn the FC folks about it... Ok, that works. But please, when talking about time, use UTC. It makes the whole time thing a great deal easier. Remember not all of us even know what UK time even means. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Team meeting
Hey all It has come time for the marketing team to have another meeting. There are a bunch of things that need to be covered, including: 1. Common resources for the UWN/fullcircle/behindubuntu 2. Introduction of the new way to send in things to the marketing team 3. Kickstarting DIY and getting it live 4. Introductions of the fullcircle people 5. Introducing the new Canonical people Anything else? I am going to be travelling until the 20th, around 04:00 UTC, so don't expect anything from me until then. As for a time, my timezone goes back to UTC -7 and I have two days off once I get home. Can somebody post this meeting invitation with a discussion of the time to the ubuntu and fullcircle forums? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Proposals for UWN
On 5/18/07, Martin Albisetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/17/07, José Lecaros Cisterna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't always have to be somebody who is already known for an interview... why couldn't it spotlight community users for their contributions? Somebody not known by the entire community? that's the point, we can show LoCo teams' work using UWN, and not only the work coming from most known actors. Exactly right, and the idea would be a very short and specific interview, as in 4 or 5 short questions. ALA the style of the Behind Ubuntu ones? BTW, I have reconnected with the BU people and hopefully that will restart at some point. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] UWN Fullcircle: Keeping our ducks in a row
Hey all, With both the UWN and Fullcicle working hard, there are a few places that we need to make certain we are not overlapping on work. This isn't about not running the same content, merely making certain we have a common process of getting that content. Here are my concrete proposals: 1. Interviews These would be made by the marketing team as a whole, and the information fed into the wiki for each to use. 2. Community generated content/new stories The mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] is now open to accept community news to be sent to. Anybody can subscribe and the archives are open, while the sending is unmoderated. Thoughts? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] UWN Fullcircle: Keeping our ducks in a row
On 5/17/07, Jenda Vancura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Corey Burger wrote: Hey all, With both the UWN and Fullcicle working hard, there are a few places that we need to make certain we are not overlapping on work. This isn't about not running the same content, merely making certain we have a common process of getting that content. Here are my concrete proposals: 1. Interviews These would be made by the marketing team as a whole, and the information fed into the wiki for each to use. 2. Community generated content/new stories The mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] is now open to accept community news to be sent to. Anybody can subscribe and the archives are open, while the sending is unmoderated. Thoughts? Corey Sounds good Corey. Can that list also be used for other marketing submissions? (e.g. DIY material, marketing strategies/howtos) Absolutely, whatever people choose to send to it. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Live Invite
On 5/10/07, Martin Albisetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/10/07, Jenda Vancura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In accordance to what you mentioned on IRC, I suppose you meant a Marketing Team meeting ツ I did mean a meeting, I'm sorry about that, I slipped. A meeting would be great... and the gap since the last one would also tend to suggest it ;) Martin, would you take charge of it? I personally won't have much time these coming weeks, let alone brain-capacity. I'll be happy enough if I can attend the meeting. I'd love to, what do all of you think on a Sunday, like last time? Is Sunday 13th may too soon? 13th may work for me, but I am still travelling until the 19th. My timezone is also currently utc+1 Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] fullcircle - issue #1 [update]
Ronnie, Excellent content there. I love the various reviews. It does kind of need a table of contents, intro bit, etc. All in all, excellent work. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Commercial
On 5/7/07, Remo Quintino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! I'm writing for the Ubuntu Italian Promoters (sort of Marketing Team but Italy-centric), to talk with you about the possibility to create a commercial about and for Ubuntu. An Ubuntu Italian user has expressed his will to create one, both in English and Italian. We've seen his previous work, and they are very professional. You can take a look at them here: http://www.undermybed.it/web/works/video/ As it will be a tough task to realize, we would like to know your opinion about this and what could be the best way to spread the voice, and of course the video, and know if Canonical would be interested in something like this and the way we could collaborate. The work would be licensed under a Creative Commons license, so it will be free. Ciao! PS: please CC Milo, as he is not subscribed to this list. Thanks. Remo, A commercial would be very cool. We could include it by default on the ubuntu CD, given it would be CC (you need to make certain it is not -nd and -nc). What sort of ideas did you have about specifics of the commercial? Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Press Releases and feature guides for Ubuntu 7.04
n 4/17/07, Chris Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tour: this goes on the wiki, and has screenshots; basically what we've called the release notes before. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/RC https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/RC/Kubuntu Can we rename the pages to include Ubuntu704 in the title rather than FeistyFawn? The code names are complicated for new users to understand/put into context. Absolutely. I named the page is anticipation of having an RC. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] #0 released - it's official!
On 4/15/07, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok guys, the issue #0 of full circle is now officially released, here's the download link for the release candidate of #0 : http://files.fullcirclemagazine.org/uploads/issue0.pdf We'll obviously put it up on our website for download, any mirrors are appreciated and i'll put a post up on the Ubuntu Forums for people to download it. I look forward to seeing the reponse to it... -- Cheerio! Ronnie Ronnie, Can you send a first release email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject like Announcing Issue of the Full Circle Magazine Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Please Help Us Spread the Good Word About Ubuntu
On 4/13/07, Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: My name is Mike Feravolo and I run a small computing solutions business in Cocoa Beach, Florida. We advocate the use of Ubuntu and other open source software applications to other small businesses. We attend numerous business functions that are run by the local chambers of commerce and meet a lot of people in the media. Many of these publications have space that they allow organizations to let people know about events that occur on a regular basis for free. Anyone that can write 20 - 30 words or so that describes what a LoCo group is and that everyone is welcome to join and the meetings are at (fill in the blank) time and anything else would be really awesome. Then all the other Loco can use it too if they like in their local press. The other thing is maybe we can sell some of these small local publications on running some kind of feature story on Ubuntu. This is a lot harder then the announcement copy that we need for our Florida Loco. But I did what to let everyone know that a good feature story about Ubuntu could also be run in more then one publication too. Good Day, Mike Feravolo Mike, If I understand you correctly, you need the following: - a short para on what a LoCo is - an article about Ubuntu Right? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter - frontpage at ubuntuforums.org
On 4/12/07, Jenda Vancura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good news everyone! The UWN has made it to the frontpage of ubuntuforums.org, and is staying there. We've discussed this with Martin, and would like to try out the following scheme: A subforum for the UWN, where each UWN is posted in a new sticky thread (and unstickied when a new one is released)... and all forum users can post their comments in that thread. This way, the MT mailing list won't be spammed with tiny comments, and yet, the editors will have fairly easy access to the feedback of the masses. Hopefully, it will also bring more contributors to the UWN team. Jenda, Rocking! Thanks for getting this going. I am looking forward to the flood of new contributors. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Weekly News: Issue #35
On 4/9/07, Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 09:24:07PM -0300, Martin Albisetti wrote: === Ext4 Support Dropped in Feisty === The ext4 file system will not be included in Feisty. While it is not likely to corrupt files, it is not believed to be stable yet. Announced at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2007-March/000672.html Ext4 was not dropped from Feisty. It is an experimental filesystem which was never part of Feisty in the first place; its authors recommend against using it for purposes other than development. Something similar happened with the compiz announcement, where in Issue #30 the headline was No Beryl or Compiz for Feisty when in fact Feisty brings great improvements in this area: compiz is installed by default and easier than ever to enable. I like the fact that UWN is informal and lightweight in its processes; it's perhaps the only way to keep pace with events in the project and in the community. However, I'm concerned about the effect of misleading headlines, especially when they are reprinted in publications which are read by people who don't follow project events first-hand. What do you think we can do to help avoid further problems like this? I need to be more aggressive about editing. I know that text is mine, but the headline I am not so certain about. Regardless, I will try and catch these errors. Also, I Daniel chen/ crimsun used to help us edit, so I will drag him back in again. He has a good solid head for technical stuff, plus being a MOTU. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Feisty Fawn - New Features List x 4 ?
On 4/9/07, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm on the scrounge for some info to put into the last remaining fullcircle article... Mainly, i'm looking for new features lists for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu. I'm also looking for recent screens of the desktops and some of the new features in action or the settings for the new features... ? Corey pointed me to the wiki article for Ubuntu. Any other info you guys can spare on the other three would be much appreciated. Hopefully one more beta of fullcircle then it'll be ready for you guys to work your magic on... :) -- Cheerio! Ronnie Ronnie, Ubuntu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/RC Kubuntu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/RC/Kubuntu Edubuntu is included in Ubuntu Xubuntu has none Ubuntu Server is including in Ubuntu as for screenshots, they are coming. The doc will be finished by the 11th. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] fullcircle #0 - beta3
On 4/7/07, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've received very little feedback on beta2 and so far no feedback on beta3. Now this may be a good thing on my part (i should be so lucky!), but i'm just concerned that people are not supplying feedback now, and when I release the final beta (when Feitsy article goes in) i'll end up with a ton of 'could you change' emails which by that time it will be too late to make changes... So in short; if you have ANY quibbles with full circle, please say so now! :D -- Cheerio! Ronnie I have a minor concern with copyright. Is the text from the trip through Ubuntu yours or is it cribbed from the ars technica article? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] fullcircle #0 - beta3
On 4/7/07, Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The History of Ubuntu article was written by me using various sources such as wikipedia and various websites... NONE of it is copy/pasted.\ Ok, no worries. I know we discussed using the ars technica article as a basis, I was just a touch worried, that is all :) Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Gnome Control Centre
On 4/6/07, Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Il giorno ven, 30/03/2007 alle 12.37 -0700, Corey Burger ha scritto: On 3/30/07, rohit sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have keenly been tracking progress of feisty fawn (since i plan to migrate to ubuntu linux). Whilst viewing the screenshots of feisty fawn's alpha releases i noticed a noteworthy change: the introduction of the gnome control center in the system menu. This replaced the preferences and administration tabs. not only was the control center a more visually appealing option, it was also easier to use as it categorized all the tasks (against the two over sized menus). Very unfortunately though, in the latest beta release the control center has been replaced by the same old tabs (preferences and administration). do hope you give a thought to the control center. sincerely, ruffrohit. This is certainly not the correct list to discuss this, but I will tell you why the control centre was removed: it was too slow. The menu opens on a cold boot in about 2 secs and less than 1 sec warm (after the panel has cached the information). The control centre took about 3 to 6 secs on the fastest of my machines. You then had to find it. So not only was it slower, it didn't make anything easier to find (as 2-d searching is slower than 1-d) for new people and make all that muscle memory for exisiting users useless. In other words, it was a bad change. What actually does need to happen is a merging of various configuration options by upstream, in this case GNOME, to make the list shorter, not a bandaid like the control centre. I'm not convinced that this is true. The control-center was removed because the code was extremely buggy, but as far as I know the intention is to work on that and include it with the next release. I personally think it is an excellent concept which is the way forward in terms of presentation of configuration options to the user. You're right that several configuration options need to be merged, but that is a separate consideration, which is also a goal for upstream and can be done together with implementing the control-center. Matt One of the other reasons it was disabled is because it really doesn't solve the problem of having too many configuration dialogues, it merely hides the issue. Further, 2-d searching is more difficult than 1-d. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Gnome Control Centre
On 3/30/07, rohit sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have keenly been tracking progress of feisty fawn (since i plan to migrate to ubuntu linux). Whilst viewing the screenshots of feisty fawn's alpha releases i noticed a noteworthy change: the introduction of the gnome control center in the system menu. This replaced the preferences and administration tabs. not only was the control center a more visually appealing option, it was also easier to use as it categorized all the tasks (against the two over sized menus). Very unfortunately though, in the latest beta release the control center has been replaced by the same old tabs (preferences and administration). do hope you give a thought to the control center. sincerely, ruffrohit. This is certainly not the correct list to discuss this, but I will tell you why the control centre was removed: it was too slow. The menu opens on a cold boot in about 2 secs and less than 1 sec warm (after the panel has cached the information). The control centre took about 3 to 6 secs on the fastest of my machines. You then had to find it. So not only was it slower, it didn't make anything easier to find (as 2-d searching is slower than 1-d) for new people and make all that muscle memory for exisiting users useless. In other words, it was a bad change. What actually does need to happen is a merging of various configuration options by upstream, in this case GNOME, to make the list shorter, not a bandaid like the control centre. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] user support email coming through to this list
I have noticed a small amount of user support email coming through to this list. I suspect it is because of the footer on the UWN and the various release notes. Shall we change this to say: For user support, please see [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] So I had a quick conversation with Chris Kenyon at Canonical
Hey all, Prompted by some concerns within the team about duplication of resources and my own thoughts about how we can better coordinate with Canonical, poor me stayed well past my bedtime (UK is +8 on me) and spoke with Chris. He reiterated that the Canonical marketing efforts are fairly narrowly focused and that duplicating the community work is crazy. Here are the salient points: = Press Releases = This will be written by Canonical's press agency and will be released to the community for translation on the 11th of April at the latest. VERY IMPORTANT - READ IF TRANSLATING THE PRESS RELEASE It is absolutely critical we respect embargo on this press release. This means that if you translate the press release, it cannot be sent to press agencies before Canonical releases the official English one. If we screw this one up, it is going to be much harder to get press releases before the actual release date. = Features Tour = This is our baby. Based on the wiki pages of the Herd and Beta, this will be a features tour of all that is great and new about Feisty. This will be delivered in the following formats: 1. A wiki page - for primary development 2. Xhtml - for the web and for translation in Rosetta 3. ODF - for general use 4. PDF - generated from the ODF, for printing I have committed that I will get this done by the 11th of April at the latest as well. = DIY website = This is Martin's baby, but Chris was very much interested in this. He said they would help with hosting if needed. = How can you help? = The Features Tour and the DIY website both need help. If you want to help with the former, please contact me. For the latter, Martin. = So where is Christina? = Sadly, Christina has left Canonical. As such, Chris is now our point person on this. = Finale = Basically, the press release and features tour will be done by the 11th, in time for translators to get their little paws on it. All in all, Chris is a great guy. Lets all rock to the Feisty release! Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] So I had a quick conversation with Chris Kenyon at Canonical
= Addendum = I forgot one thing. Chris is going to be setting up a wiki page cataloguing all the things Canonical and the community will be working on for the release. When said page is created, I will ping the list with its name. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Meeting
On 3/21/07, Martin Albisetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! Since we haven't had a meeting for some time, now would be a great time to have one and get things going again. Add whatever you want discussed in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings What would be a good day/hour to have it? I think the next week would be great :D Martin I propose we meet on the 31st of March at 20:00 UTC. This means it is really early morning for the aussies, late evening for the europeans and midday for the north americans. Does that work for everybody? Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Meeting
On 3/21/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally can't make it, I have like 9 parties to attend that day, thanks to my wife (aka the cruise director). Is it possible to submit a topic for consideration and possible discussion w/o being able to be there myself if I were to write it out somewhere? Absolutely. You can add ideas to the agenda to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] add an In the blogosphere section to UWN?
On 3/17/07, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as the title would suggest. How would you all feel about adding a section to the UWN devoted to the blogosphere, I could help keep up with this since I have TONS of cool RSS feeds about Ubuntu, and that mention ubuntu regularly. Sounds good. Tony on irc pointed out we might want to only link to high quality posts, which to me would mean high profile people switching to Ubuntu, cool new things being demoed (with screenshots) or cool loco news. There are other things, but those are some good examples. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release
On 3/1/07, Jono Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I was involved in some discussions yesterday about coming up with some ideas of how to mark the Feisty release in a unique and interesting way. The idea is that the community could do something interesting, attention grabbing and potentially wacky that will not only show off the community but also mark a new Ubuntu release. There were two distinctive ideas which I think are goers: * Show Your Ubuntu - encourage our users and community to take a picture of themselves holding the Ubuntu logo in variety of different situations and scenarios. System76 had a photo contest with their stickers. We could do something similar. Should we ask them for their software so as to run it better? * The Big Ubuntu Logo Competition - set a challenge for the community to photograph the biggest Ubuntu logo or circle of friends that they can. This can involve people constructing logos in a variety of ways, so long as the core aspects of the logo are present. This is a cool idea. However, we should make it very clear we are not looking for a new logo, merely an Ubuntu crop circle :) As usual, your ideas rock. I would add: My Favourite Ubuntu feature: In a short sentence, tell us what feature you love most about Ubuntu Thoughts? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Library Outreach
On 2/8/07, Dan Shufelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When trying to get a library / business to adopt usage of Ubuntu based distributions have you taken the time to show them what it is? If not I would be very interested in helping to determine needs and creating either demo or a screen cast movie. I think such materials would greatly improve adoption as potential users could visually see how the OS could work for them. It would also be nice to follow up with libraries that do adopt Ubuntu so we can add references, success stories and technical support contacts to whatever media is developed. -- Best regards, Dan Shufelt Ubuntu- Pacific Northwest Team (PNWTeam) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most of this work is also being done by Canonical. I have cc'ed the marketing team. There is a plan afoot to get the case study templates out there but I have been a little lax is getting the work done. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu 7.04
On 2/1/07, Roger Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Will version 7.04 include Beryl? Thanks, Roger Corbett We are not the people who can properly answer this, but the current answer is: Maybe. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] All testing links are broken
On 2/1/07, David Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd2#head-89d1bec6bf9d20afd735a459259d7c4cbb7c946d All the links in the reporting bugs and testing section are broken. I'd like to actually test Feisty and give useful feedback. How can I do that? Thanks, -- Dave Abrahams We just released Herd 3 and the links work on that page. In future, please file bugs for the website under the ubuntu-website product on Malone. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Feisty Fawn Herd 2
Oops. These links should be links to the wiki. Corey On 1/30/07, Pascal Dornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, all of these links don't work. If you plan to do an installation of Feisty Herd 2, be sure to head to [http://www.ubuntu.com/TestingTesting]. With just a few minutes of time at your hands, you can really help to improve Ubuntu. We have two different tests; one takes just a short while, but the other is more thorough. * http://www.ubuntu.com/Testing/CurrentTesting/Current - Simply note how your installation went * http://www.ubuntu.com/Testing/ShortTesting/Short - the short test * http://www.ubuntu.com/Testing/LongTesting/Long - the longer test Installation will fail after detecting hardware - cannot mount CD-ROM. Test CD for integrity fails at the same point. Looks to me like the system is picking some strange drivers (can't see in detail - going by too fast), and not getting far with those... Tested on two boards: AMD Geode LX800 + LG DVD reader AMD Sempron + Via chipset + Toshiba DVD reader/writer Best regards, Pascal Dornier -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] DIY Update
On 1/13/07, Martin Albisetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to give everyone a quick update on the DIY Website status. Done: - Spread It! section is now pulling data from the database (http://diy.devubuntu.com/spread.php) It's also counting visits, so the Most Visited is automatically ordered. ToDo: - Backend, currently working on that - Print It!, needs finishing on my part - Get It!, needs finishing on my part - Design It!, need to discuss what's going to be on there with Jenda and/or Dan I will get whatever is on my plate finished between today and sunday. regards, Martin drool... This rocks! Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Not using gobby (UWN)
On 12/10/06, t u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Is it possible not to use gobby? It's just horribly hard to find out what changed between pre-gobby and post-gobby changes. Have a look: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue24?action=diffrev2=34rev1=29 The show changes feature of our wiki is really not useful (looks bad, which means it's hard t ofigure out everything quickly). So I prefer to check the changes via email alerts (which shows incremental changes like patch files). Yes, Gobby makes things hard to see who did what. We also left 24 in gobby for a long time. The issue is that we need the collaborative real time editing for the UWN. Without it we it takes much much longer. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Changes at the UWN
Hey all, In the wake of the delayed 24th issue (still not out due to me forgetting the password), some of us had a quick brainstorm. We have made the following changes: Added Beats and laid out specifically which sections are optional and which are not. You can see the list of beats and the associated people at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies The second thing we did was go through the template, updating it, but also adding editing comments on each section. These will appear in UWN 25. So if you want to join but are not certain of how to start editing, please see the editing comments. They are hidden by default, but will appear when you edit the document. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/IssueTemplate Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] diy website / spreadubuntu brainstorming
On 12/1/06, Jan Vancura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Buch wrote: yes, it's a bit silly, but it occurred to me that spreadubuntu might be the right place for this (already added to wikipage MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite): Emergency Window Removal Toolkit A list of tested (and untested) methods and materials for rescuing a user from a faulty OS once the viruses/malware take hold. Given how the average Windrowse user is hesitant to be rid of their safety net, we should be prepared to make the current system dual-boot. * software, including Live CD's and partitioning apps * hardware, including external HD for instant backup * facial tissue, for tears of joy I think this is a technical issue not directly related to marketing, and therefore belongs somewhere in the Ubuntu documentation. It's a great idea, though, and if done right could be a really nice HOWTO. IMHO, it doesn't fit the purpose of spreadubuntu - which is for people who want to spread Ubuntu to others. There are countless resources on the net which give the user himself guidance to switch. I will echo Jans comments here. That is clearly documentation and as such, falls under the documentation team. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Humorous video example (Novell)
On 11/8/06, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Corey Burger wrote: On 11/4/06, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this a while ago and really like it. I share the link because - it is good - but also because I began to think that we might have someone who could create amusing meaningful animations or videos. http://www.novell.com/linux/windowstolinux/publicservice/ Animation/video is now more acceptable than ever including via the internet - google video - youtube etc. There are many diverse skills available in the ubuntu community, it might be worth seeking some relevant ones for these maybe? I know some in UK are beginning to use screen capture video for technical how-to's. Of course, animation with a message is a different ball game, but could be worth the effort. -- alan cocks Linux registered user #360648 The challenge with video is that most people simply are nto good at it. Observe the Firefox Flicks contest. I would have to say that 85% of the submitted videos were simply not worth watching. Those Novell videos and their RH equiv were done by professionals with budgets. Agreed, but maybe there are some final year media or drama guys gals who just maybe like linux. It would be a good project for them, might ge t global coverage. The animation 'singing alien' (http://www.funlol.com/funpages/singing-alien.html) was a practice experiment and has become a famous standard too, for its author. If we like the idea, we may not need a big budget perhaps. That being said, a Firefox Flicks style contest might not be such a bad idea. Shall we bug the Firefox Flicks guys for the software they run? good idea I have heard through the grapvine that John Little of ubuntuvideo.com is coming back, after having been working on the election in the US. I suspect that ubuntuvideo is best place for this, so lets get John enthused when he returns to us. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Targeted email, phone, and face-to-face tactics
On 11/5/06, Daniel Buch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most educational institutions, government agencies, and corporations are easily reachable by phone or email, making them a considerably more accessible target than then general public. I say this mostly from experience in working with K-12 and Higher Ed clients to promote various proven teaching technologies. You have just described my day job doing sales. FYI, I sell DiscoverStation, a Fedora-based public computer to public libraries across North America. Here are my thoughts: Phone - right out. Too much work for little return. Trust me on this one. I cold call day. It sucks Email - we already produce the UWN, but maybe we need a monthly email that is less technical. Face to Face - this is for the locoteams, not us. We can produce the material for them to take to people, but it is a local issue. That said, what is the Marketing Team's stance on targeted Email, Phone, and face-to-face contact? Should a spec be written for Ubuntu Marketing Account Executive, including associated specs for Ubuntu Marketing Campaign-in-a-box, Ubuntu Marketing Kit or some such thing? A campaign-in-a-box would rock. We don't really have anything in a works like this, but Jenda has been working on some DIY stuff which overlaps a far amount. If you want to get started thinking about what you need, lets brainstorm. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu 'rough' poster
On 11/2/06, Brian Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was discussion on the -marketing IRC channel last week about some different designs for Ubuntu posters promotional material; one idea that got mentioned was the old, black white only 'foo has a posse' or Obey posters and similar street art styles. I kind of took that idea and ran with it in Inkscape; the result is a graphic I call Ubuntu roughcut: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_roughcut_poster/Ubuntu-roughcut.png http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_roughcut_poster/Ubuntu-roughcut.svg http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_roughcut_poster/Ubuntu_roughcut_readme.txt Now available in the Marketing Team's webspace. An edgier style for our Edgy release? Maybe! Now, I must resist the urge to do Mark has a posse posters in the same style... must resist... Hmm... Tux has a posse, anyone? Brian, The issue is that my brother didn't push to bzr, he simply scp'ed them up. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] [Bug 63192] Re: Ubuntu web site does not say where I can buy a laptop with Ubuntu
Good idea, needs some discussion as to implementation ** Changed in: ubuntu-website (upstream) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist -- Ubuntu web site does not say where I can buy a laptop with Ubuntu https://launchpad.net/bugs/63192 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Planning for my absence: UWN and the Beta page
Hello all, Work periodically requires me to be away for a week or more and that time has come again. I am headed to Colorado from Sunday the 24th of Sept until Saturday the 30th. Normally this is not an issue, but I have been doing two time critical things recently: the UWN and the Knot/Beta release pages. As the W in UWN stands for week and the Beta release is scheduled for the 28th, we need to plan how to get these two things done while I am away. UWN: I arrived back in Victoria at 7pm on the 30th local time and release is usually midnight. Thus I will be back to send it out. However, the content is the more important bit. I would love it if people could step up and get large parts of the UWN written before Saturday. Beta: Given we are into feature freeze already, I don't expect much to change from now to the release on the 28th. The biggest piece that nobody here but myself can do is moving it to the website. For that we will need Matthew Nuzum. Both Henrik Omma and Matthew East are currently away, but if you see them, they can also help us. As for the content, it can largely be gleaned from the previous Knot2 and 3 pages. Jason Liquorish (Bassetts on IRC) has begun to do this as I write this email. The wikipage for this is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta As for how to write both of these, if you have any questions, I will be available by email while away, but I don't guarantee anything. Also, there are lots of great people and previous versions to compare to. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Completely restructured UWN pages
Hey all, I have restructured the following pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter -make the the current and in development links more like sentences, to follow better https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Ideas - /Prosposals now redirects here - removed old stuff - added clear sections https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Archive -removed table, swapped order https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies - /ReleaseChecklist has now been merged in - more info on each stage of development and release Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Prefer email text/plain
On 9/10/06, Jim Cheetham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRT the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, there are still a few of us die-hard unix people out here who use text-based mail readers, like mutt :-) I don't mind that you have a nice web-based page for the newsletter, but I like to be able to read the newsletter as it's been delivered to my mailbox, so please consider reinstating a text/plain version. Even just a dump of the web page through something like lynx would do the trick; with good css styling, the page would look good in multiple formats - and would be good practice in making it more accessible to things like screen readers etc. Jim, Thanks for the feedback. We are trying to get it right (or would that be write? ;)). Plaintext will reappear for this week. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Weekly News #13
On 9/10/06, Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 03:16:12AM -0700, Corey Burger wrote: Welcome to the latest Ubuntu Weekly News, covering the happenings and events in the Ubuntu community from September 3rd through the 9th. In this issue, we cover Scott James Remnant's init-replacement upstart going live, Edgy getting GNOME 2.16 and KDE 4 alpha packages, Melissa Draper's interview with the Sydney Morning Herald in Australia and much more. Read on at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue13 Thanks for another excellent issue. I very much appreciate the work that goes into UWN. We have also switched to a new format this week, to allow for more images and richer formatting. Please give us feedback via the Marketing Teams mailing list, ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com I assume this is why the usual plaintext version was not sent out via email. If so, why not send HTML? Some readers appreciate receiving a copy directly, which they can read immediately or offline. We are going to send out plaintext again this week, due to user feedback. There is no perfect format. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] new weekly newsletter format
On 9/10/06, Matthew MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi- I subscribed to the mailing list because I liked getting the plain format email in my inbox. It's low stress to read and scan through, and doesn't involve switching over to my browser. It's also easier to go back to and read more of later, because it's not in a browser tab that might get killed on a crash or whatever. I know multiple formats are a pain to maintain, but I do like the plain format. Cheers, Matthew, We are going back to plaintext this week, with the link for the rich version more prominent. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu promotional material
On 9/14/06, Alan Helmore-Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning list, This is my first posting on ubuntu-marketing, I normally live on ubuntu-uk. I started a conversation yesterday, over on ubuntu-uk about some promotional material, Jono Bacon pointed out that this is a more sensible place to have the discussion. Doh, why didn't I think of that :-) so here we go again. I have lots of opportunities to promote ubuntu to fairly senior 'management types', and I would be interested in creating some marketing collateral that could be can given out, where opportunities present themselves. This needs to be in an end-user/non-technical form, I had thought maybe a postcard or large business card format, with a handful of compelling messages, basically something that doesn't look too much like the normal flier. Canonical has a case study template floating around. Chris, is that ready for prime time yet? Now I am not a marketing person, so I would either need help in putting the message and design together, or perhaps someone more experienced in this type of thing should take on the idea if others think it has merit? I would love if somebody could take the lead and start working. I would be more than happy to help copy edit/etc., but realistically don't have the time to do it myself. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Knot 3 preparations
On 9/11/06, Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we're getting close to a knot 3 release now, so I was wondering if you could prepare something like http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot2, but for knot 3. Thanks, and please Cc me on replies; I'm not subscribed. Tollef, We have already begun working on this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu Also, this task has now been taken over by the Marketing Team (same faces, but this is clearly a marketing exercise) Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Specific efforts for ubuntu in countries where BSA is active?
On 9/10/06, Tom M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are any efforts being made to specifically market to countries where the BSA is starting to crack down, such as Malaysia? That would be something that the Marketing team would have to work with the Malaysian LoCo team. I believe if adequate awareness of free alternatives were made that a large number of Free Software adoptions could occur. Something tangentially related has Ubuntu or Canonical considered promoting a free software CD for the proprietary platforms? Ie something containing OpenOffice, Gimp, Scribus, Firefox, Thunderbird, and other prominent cross platform Free Software? This would seem a logical approach to help companies transition to Ubuntu who could not full transition immediately but might be interested over the longer term. The Ubuntu live cd contains some of this. Canonical also sponosors the OpenCD, which is exactly that. The approach I would take would be to offer the CD as part of a large scale transition package, where a staged migration is planned - first scan all computers for existing software that is used on proprietary platforms. Determine what have adequate feature set equivalents in the opensource world; and what can be migrated to WINE safely. Then the contract could include adding of missing features to opensource projects for equivanlency or possible improvements to WINE for portability, or possibly migrating the few remaining proprietary environments into virtualized environments so that the specific needed programs can still be accessed but with reduced risk to the rest of the environment. Interesting idea. This is something that is very specific to each deployment, rather than something we can do. Welcome, btw. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Suggestion for weekly newsletter
On 8/31/06, Christian Convey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I'm keen to watch not only the number of newly reported bugs, which you already have in the newsletter, but also the number of bugs that more towards the various states of resolution. I care about this because I'm concerned in general about whether or not bugs are getting fixed as quickly as they're getting introduced. So how about introducing another number or two in the newsletter? (a) Number of bugs closed, and (b) Net change in number of open bugs. (Which would basically be # of bugs opened minus # of bugs closed.) Cheers, Christian Christian, Sorry about the late response. Clearing through old email. Anyway, I would love to provide better bug information but the reporting tools from LP suck and thus I cannot. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Weekly News planning meeting
Hello all, I decided the various editors of the Ubuntu Weekly News need to have a meeting Given there is no easy time to do this and I want to have this meeting before the next edition, 14, is out. Thus we are going to meet on Wednesday, Sept 13th at 1am UTC. You can find out your local time at http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9day=13year=2006hour=1min=0sec=0p1=0 Yes, this sucks for the Europeans. I am truly sorry. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Weekly News #12
Thomas, Thanks for contacting us. It is always good to see people reading our stuff! n 9/4/06, Thomas Schwinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I'm aware that you people are most probably not the best contact persons for some of the issues addressed below, so feel free to forward me somewhere else. On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 06:49:47PM -0700, Corey Burger wrote: = Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter - Issue #12 = [...] First of all, thanks for writing (or helping to write) those! Your welcome. snip If you are able, please help us test this update. You can find more information at FIXME (location of wiki page that talks about how to test dapper-proposed) FIXME. Where is that? ;-) Right, that was a brown paper bag issue. I should have caught it and didn't. There currently is no wiki page on it, although I will bug somebody to create one I'd like to help as I have the knowledge to repair a broken system. And in fact I had been using dapper-proposed a few months ago. But I disabled it again, because it rendered the OpenOffice.org installation unusable because of inter package problems and I didn't see a real benefit in using it. Now I re-enabled it. Let's see where this will now lead to. ... and here we go: #v+ Preparing to replace openoffice.org-impress 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 (using .../openoffice.org-impress_2.0.3-6dapper1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement openoffice.org-impress ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-impress_2.0.3-6dapper1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/openoffice/share/registry/modules/org/openoffice/TypeDetection/Filter/fcfg_impressgraphics_filters.xcu', which is also in package openoffice.org-common Preparing to replace openoffice.org-draw 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 (using .../openoffice.org-draw_2.0.3-6dapper1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement openoffice.org-draw ... Replacing files in old package openoffice.org-core ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-draw_2.0.3-6dapper1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/openoffice/share/registry/modules/org/openoffice/TypeDetection/Filter/fcfg_drawgraphics_filters.xcu', which is also in package openoffice.org-common Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-impress_2.0.3-6dapper1_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-draw_2.0.3-6dapper1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) #v- That's after simply having added dapper-proposed to an otherwise clean (I suppose) system. Whom to contact about that? Please file a bug if something in their breaks, mention is a dapper-proposed update. In general, where can I read about how to help the Ubuntu project w.r.t. testing proposed updates and also especially issues related to using it on laptops? (I have a ThinkPad T42.) Testing laptops is the laptop testing team, which can be found at: wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] A call for help on the Knot2 page
On 8/29/06, Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:48:52 -0700, Corey Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TextEditorCDRemoval A more relevant wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2 :) Hmm, wrong thing on the clipboard. Good catch Robert. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Flash-Free Videos
On 8/22/06, John Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've added a flash free option on Ubuntu Video (http://www.ubuntuvideo.com). Some videos aren't available via the various flash powered streaming services and this allows me to group and link them in a logical way. This also provides some content for those who can't, or won't, run the Flash plugin. Robin Miller of OSTG (Linux.com - Slashdot - etc) and the Blender Foundation have both helped to assemble the current batch of videos. If any of you can suggest additional online sources of similar videos please forward on the link. I hope that the flash free options will become fairly robust in time. - John John, Thanks for providing this. Hopefully Gnash will solve our problems soon. The next thing will be work on transcoding them to ogg, so default Ubuntu can read them, but that is a large project and I don't understand anything about video editing and transcoding. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Ubucon Re: Moving forward on a fleet of Segways - YA RLY
On 8/21/06, Paul Sladen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Matthew Revell wrote: On 21/08/06, Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to push my views on the team, [...] I'm sorry to see you step back, [...] I'm tempted to myself in fact. Or, we could get on and write some content. Readers would *love* that! ;-) Go with the flow, move with the groove, *relax* dudets and dudes; Like sex, this stuff is just not pleasurable if everyone is not in the mood. Sleep a little overnight and see if it feels right in the morning. ...and just like sex, nobody should be in charge and nobody should be pushed into doing things they would prefer not to be doing. Now, did anyone make it to Ubucon? I'd love some help finishing off the story; particularly with finding photos on flickr of either that or the happening at Linux World I and Jorge did, at a very minimum. (Chris was also there) Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
