[ubuntu-uk] gnu/Linux, BSD and FLOSS group
Hello, I believe someone mentioned about having too many or too little LUG in London. So we are thinking of starting a new one in our Hackerspace. Location at the moment will be in Richmond MakerLabs here. <http://wiki.richmondmakerlabs.uk/index.php/How_to_Find_Us> http://wiki.richmondmakerlabs.uk/index.php/Linux,_BSD_and_Open_Source -- Andres (he/him/his) Ham United Group RichmondMakerLabs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
El Fri, 19-06-2015 a las 13:46 +0100, Gareth France escribió: Sorry, what exactly are you proposing here? Thanks Gareth On 19/06/15 13:20, Andres wrote: RichmondMakerlabs open Tuesday evenings from 7:30 pm we have a load of PCs and laptops that if you can give them life it would be great for our monthly coder dojos. No, I'm sorry, as I did not read your email correctly. My comment must have read really cheeky, I'm sorry as I thought you where offering to fix computers and I was proposing the ones donated to our CIC. -- http://richmondmakerlabs.uk http://www.coderdojoham.org/ http://www.hamunitedgroup.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
El Fri, 19-06-2015 a las 08:29 +0100, Stuart Ward escribió: Wednesday evenings it is open to the public. -- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143 On 17 June 2015 at 18:51, Gareth France gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk wrote: I'm thinking about popping over to see if you can help with finding an old pc. What are the opening hours please? On 12/06/15 15:55, Stuart Ward wrote: On 12 June 2015 at 08:29, Gareth France gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk mailto:gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk wrote: ideally though I'd like to find something at the extreme bottom range of what is still usable. I know slitaz will run on a 486 very quickly and it looks as modern as any OS. Gareth I am sure we have something like that it the various computers bits at rLab, Pop by and have a look. rlab.org.uk http://rlab.org.uk -- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143 RichmondMakerlabs open Tuesday evenings from 7:30 pm we have a load of PCs and laptops that if you can give them life it would be great for our monthly coder dojos. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] printing in Chromium
Hello, Does this happen to everybody? In firefox I do ctrl+P and it opens the normal printing window where I can choose the printer. Works no problem. In Chromium ctrl+P shows me a printing page inside chromium. I can select my printer OK but when asking to print it just hangs there. There is a little link in the bottom that says to try shift+ctrl+p and that brings up normal printing page and prints normally. sample page to print: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pYAJMbVobYCTro_z4LGo3ZQ Does anybody notice the same? Regards, Andres -- This Christmas (and Birthday) do not sent me presents, Please donate to this charity: https://my.fsf.org/civicrm/pcp/info?reset=1id=34 http://richmond.ml http://www.coderdojoham.org/ http://www.hamunitedgroup.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Should ubuntu play DVDs gratis?
? On 2 de marzo de 2014 14:59:14 GMT, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 March 2014 14:31, Michael h...@ukcentre.com wrote: VLC, available for Linux and MS Windows, a freeware package, will play a DVD, regardless of region coding. Yes it will, but AFAIK, mostly without the use of hardware acceleration from the video card, meaning high CPU usage ( battery drain on laptops) and poor performance on low-end systems. Last I checked VLC did not work at all with something like: could not play medium displayed. I don't think it is a low end computer as it plays on windows xp on same computer. Will check if vlc on windows works. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Should ubuntu play DVDs gratis?
On 2 de marzo de 2014 00:09:02 GMT, Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com wrote: Andres, www.fluendo.com fluendo dvd player is a proprietary product which can play DVDs. Fluendo also do a pack of codecs which include among others a plugin for Windows Media format (unencrypted only). The codecs work for any gstreamer-based player but not others such as mplayer, vlc or xine. Also the DVD player is a separate app which doesn't enable DVD playback in totem or any other player which you may prefer :-(. That's the one! I now have a price to compare with a new dvd $25 and fixing a noisy computer fan. And hating myself for letting 'the man' win with their propietary stuff. I prefer fluendo rather than being oblivious with a dvd player. Does that mean libdvdcss2 is ilegal in UK? Wikipedia says it has never been legally challenged. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Some installation pointers please
Being a great believer in the adage you mustn't do anything that can't be easily undone and you must always have a credible reversion plan, I would welcome both a forward strategy and some detailed pointers on how I should proceed to achieve a duel-booting machine. I am very interested in the responses you get! I think I am about your same level of knowledge so can't help much. I would look at moving the most you can to the large win 7 drive. And then get rid of one of the drives if it is large enough for ubuntu. I think one of the drives is problably the hp backup to set the computer to factory default or the files backup (or both). -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem with Linux Emporium website?
On 14 de febrero de 2014 21:19:59 GMT, Gordon Burgess-Parker gor...@gbpcomputing.co.uk wrote: On 14/02/14 12:20, alan c wrote: On 13/02/14 17:43, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: BTW, it looks like the Linux Emporium website is back up. thanks! Why are they still advertising Ubuntu 11.10 on laptops for heavens sakes? I cannot in conscience link that site to would be Ubuntu novices saying it is a brilliant company (which I believe from my experience, it is) Sigh I wondered about that. I can't believe they aren't supplying machines with 12.04 on... Maybe because it is pre-unity LTS? -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem with Linux Emporium website?
On 1 de febrero de 2014 12:22:00 GMT, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: On 01/02/14 11:43, alan c wrote: I will sometime, be looking for a Ubuntu laptop. Zareason (New Zealand) keep threatening to set up in UK, but no recent news at all. System 76 sound great but it would be nice to stay in UK, or Europe. I am aware of Novatech but I have been disappointed with the quality, of PCs, anyway. More than one failure not far outside warranty. I currently have at least one ubuntu novice friend who wants to retail buy a mid/low end Ubuntu desktop. I bought my most recent PC from Cougar Extreme. They have a guy called Patrick who knows Linux well, and the entire firm is very helpful. They sell laptops as well and are willing to say which hardware will work OK with Linux. I bought my PC with no OS, but they would have installed Ubuntu on request. From my point of view, Cougar is handy - about half an hour's drive away - but they will arrange delivery. There is always the brit fsf approved http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/ -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!
There is also the point that trying to open an ODT file in MS Office prompts a message suggesting that file may be corrupt or contain unreadable elements. This cleverly plants the idea in the MS user's mind that ODF files are in some way dodgy or of dubious quality. This is clever, but dirty, marketing tactics. This bit annoys me so much because it defaults to not open the file. Every time I check that odf files opens with mso2010 send it and I get the message back saying 'it won't open it' . This is because people don't read the warning or just click cancel to everything (because that is what windows users are used to error messages). -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!
On 30 de enero de 2014 21:21:18 GMT, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: On 30/01/14 21:04, Gibbs wrote: I've noticed a lot more people using Libre Office, including big companies like British Gas, which makes life easier for /everyone/. Now that is interesting! Not so many years back, there was a deep suspicion of open source programs. It is excellent complex systems like Libreoffice that have paved the way towards widespread acceptance of open source. Also, it is becoming recognised that ODF is a certified ISO standard, whereas the de facto Microsoft file formats are less reliable and non-portable. I am sure that Microsoft's adoption of the x file formats (docx etc) has in the long term done the corporation a lot of harm. Microsoft has been forced into supporting ODF and is clearly very annoyed by this. A little humility and listening to ordinary folk might have gone a long way. Regards,Barry Drake. What would be nice if calc was as good as gnumeric. Last papers I checked /recalled gnumeric was a better at the math. [1] maybe some of you have more up to date reviews? [1] http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1198/tas.2011.09076#.UurIgbgWWKA -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Open formats in UK gov?
I guess this is not news for some of you but thought I'd mention it. Baby steps it seems: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open formats in UK gov?
Pete Smout smoutp...@gmail.com escribió: On 29/01/14 21:00, Andres wrote: I guess this is not news for some of you but thought I'd mention it. Baby steps it seems: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite Hi all, As a UK taxpayer, can I just say about ing time to!! Pete S Same here: More links http://www.theguardian.com/technology/video/2013/jun/13/geeks-opened-up-government-video -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open formats in UK gov?
On 29 de enero de 2014 23:24:16 GMT, Nigel Verity nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote: I think that standardising on open formats is a significant step but it is a long, long way from seeing the likes of LibreOffice running on the typical civil servant's desktop. Without exception, the big UK government FM contracts for IT provision and support are all let to companies with a huge vested interest in maintaining their relationship with Microsoft. If all that's being opened up is the use of ODF, Microsoft will point out that they support ODF, though their implementation is far from perfect, but that's no different from LibreOffice's implementation of the DOCX format. In schools and elsewhere people are not taught word processing. They are taught explicitly how to use MS Word. Likewise with spreadsheets and Excel. Although for most people the transition to LibreOffice would be fairly trivial, the civil service would insist that everyone is given conversion training. Microsoft could reasonably point to a high cost of migration which, combined with the cost of Office pared back to cost price or less, would see the company able to maintain its stranglehold on government IT procurement. Civil servants can already buy personal copies of Office Pro for well under £20. Think of the price the government would get when ordering half a million copies. Nige Didn't the city of Munich start with this some years ago? Now they seem to be almost completely on the other side. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pipelight issues
Michael h...@ukcentre.com escribió: Following a recent Ubuntu update, I lost both Lovefilm and Eurosport. I have managed to get Lovefilm back on Firefox only, How did you get lovefilm to work? Both in the first place and the second tome round? One of the reasons I stopped using love film was that I could not get it to work. But I'm still curious. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem with Mail set up in Ubuntu 13.10
Change my Exchange Server account to a plain IMAP account, and useFruux https://fruux.com/ to sync Contacts, calendar and Tasks. (Besides which, it's much cheaper than Office 365 and Open Source!) Wow thay fruux thing sounds amazing! Seems simpler than an owncloud account. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] FLV Video Problem
Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com escribió: On 6 January 2014 10:45, Nigel Verity nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 and have recently lost the ability to play FLV video files, regardless of their source. The files themselves play perfectly when I copy them to another machine with the same version of the OS, so it's not a corruption problem. Clearly I have somehow deleted or damaged the appropriate codecs or associated files. Can anybody advise on which objects to check and/or reinstall? VLC displays an error message saying the format is not recognised. Mplayer just does nothing. However, Handbrake is still able to convert the file to MP4. FLV means Flash video. You need Adobe Flash Player installed, I reckon. I would by reinstalling vlc see if it has any package missing as you suggest. I don't think you need adobe, gnash should play it as well. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Merry Christmas
Alan Jenkins alan.james.jenk...@gmail.com escribió: Merry Christmas to you too Dave. On 25 Dec 2013, at 12:23, Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk wrote: I wish you all and your families a Very Merry Christmas and Health Wealth and Happiness for the new year. Have a fantastic holiday. Ditto. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] using workspaces.
Stuart Ward stuart.w...@bcs.org escribió: On 7 December 2013 17:03, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk wrote: like if you use Alt-Tab to switch between programs it will only scroll through the programs running in that window. That is one of the features of the unity desktop. Some people like this. Personally I prefer the gnome shell version, where you can expand and contract the number of workspaces as you want. There is always one blank workspace at the bottom of the stack. alt tab switched between all open apps, and alt backtik between open windows from a single application. +1 -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11 - 13 Notebook Recommendations?
Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com escribió: On 11 December 2013 18:19, Deryk Foote deryk.fo...@gmail.com wrote: Ubuntu is great at a lot of things, but keeping my cinder block of an old Dell from kicking the proverbial bucket isn't one of them. Alas...I suppose it's time to move on. I'm trying to find the most practical, linux-friendly machine possible for under £500, with a screen between 11 and 13.3. It doesn't need to be fantastic at anything in particular, as long as it's light and can handle a bit of travel. It's mostly going to be a basic work machine; word processing and spreadsheets, web browsing, a bit of video and photo tweaking, and lots of command-line work. Right now I'm taking a look at the Lenovo Edge E335http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/edge-series/e335/, but I'd love any recommendations or advice you have to offer - thanks in advance! Lenovo are on the Ubuntu approved hardware list: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/make/Lenovo/?category=Laptop My travelling machine is a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge 11 bought cheap as a stopgap machine a couple of years ago and it's been very good for that. I replaced the HD with a cheap SSD to save power and it's good for four or five hours on wifi and two or three on a 3G dongle. There's a small niggling fault with the mousepad that I have never been able to get to the bottom of but it's a nice little netbook for working in the pub :). S/ Thanks for the link! Really nice to see laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled, is there any rule of thumb to check that no additional drivers are needed i.e. non-free? Something like avoid nvidia for graphics cards and broadcom for wifi? -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] using workspaces.
Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org escribió: I am starting to make use of more than one workspace and would like to know whether each space should behave as if it were an individual computer. I ask because if that should be the case then there may be something wrong with my set up. For example I am using my web browser on space 1. Leaving the web browser running, I change to space 2 to read my email. There is a link to a web page in one of the emails so I click on it and the page that was open in space 1 appears. The web browser is Google Chrome. Norman -- That is exactly what happens. I have my mail in space 1 and my browser in space 2. When I click on a link in an email I don't really want the system to plonk another browser window over the mail client, so I'm quite happy with this behaviour. But there are times when windows behave independently, like if you use Alt-Tab to switch between programs it will only scroll through the programs running in that window. Tony Thanks folks, I get the message. Norman I seem to recall configureing atl+tab to cycle through all programs independantly of which workspace they are in. I can look it up if useful. It should be only useful if you run a small amount of programs at the samd time. Also, if I remember correctly, you can 'tear' out a tab from a web browser and drag it to a new workspace as a new window. I think, though I have not used it, that kde (kubuntu) had the multiple desktops organized in activites which should do (if not, by tweaking) what you mentioned of 'as if it was an individual computer'. Then there is the virtual machine stuff that I know even less about. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Please participate in the FLOSS Survey 2013!
Hi, I thought this might be of interest. Mensaje Original De: Christopher Allan Webber cweb...@dustycloud.org Enviado: Tue Nov 12 15:16:12 GMT 2013 Para: MediaGoblin de...@mediagoblin.org Asunto: [GMG-Devel] Please participate in the FLOSS Survey 2013! Heya all! You may be familiar with the well known survey from over a decade ago on free and open source software: http://flossproject.org/ Our super wonderful MediaGoblin community member Laura Arjona is working on building another survey to try to get a sense on where FLOSS is currently at. Have things changed? What are people concerned with today? I encourage *all* MediaGoblin community members (not just developers!) to participate if you have the time: http://floss2013.libresoft.es/ And thanks for running this, Laura, as well as all your other hard work! - Chris ___ devel mailing list de...@mediagoblin.org http://lists.mediagoblin.org/listinfo/devel -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Linux voice indiegogo
Hi all, I thought this campaign for a good free software magazine would be interesting to some of you. It is done by some of the ex authours of linux format. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/linux-voice/ -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printing a photo album without SAAS
Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com escribió: On 7 November 2013 10:22, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 November 2013 07:39, Andres a75...@alumni.tecnun.es wrote: Hello, I was thinking of doing a photo album and then having it printed at my local reprographics shop. All of it avoiding SAAS and using free libre open source software (floss). How would you go about it? Use something like digikam in combination with scribus? Scribus on its own will produce print ready output. I've made photo calendars and labels with it, and most small print shops will accept PDFs. I use Shotwell for photo management and GIMP for editing but might have a look at Digikam in future. I've done it the python way for our business cards: I have a python script that picks up employee details from a JSON file, uses those details to populate an SVG template using jinja2 and then calls rsvg-convert to transform them into PDF. The script is 40 lines of code and produces print ready output. The benefit of the script route is that you can customise the source and content so for example, you can make the script pick up all the photos that are within a date range and automatically generate your photo album based on that which means you could do a my year in pictures album every Christmas. Or you can generate album and labels using the same source of data by just using a different template. Of course, if it's for a one-off, Scribus is the right tool for this. On the other had, why spend 5 minutes doing something when you can spend 5 hours automating it? ;-) Thanks for the input guys! Bruno, Would the python script be available under a free software licence? Could you send me a copy? I might use it to generate a LaTeX document. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
I recently heard more about beagle bone in FLOSS weekly. Doesn't beagle bone support ubuntu for a number of years now? Similar price, better hardware and a bit more open source? What makes the pi so special? I thought it was the educational aspect of it. If it is for server, why not beagle bone? -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Printing a photo album without SAAS
Hello, I was thinking of doing a photo album and then having it printed at my local reprographics shop. All of it avoiding SAAS and using free libre open source software (floss). How would you go about it? Use something like digikam in combination with scribus? Regards, Andres -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Coder dojo @ebay and surf and turf @st mary's twickenham
In case it is of interest both located @richmond council. Thanks Andres Half Term Tech Digital Making Sport Camp, at St Mary' University College Monday 28th Oct - Fri 1st November 8.30am - 6pm Surf and turf camps offer kids, aged 8 plus, time to enjoy sport and get creative online, learning to create online games and apps for Facebook, smartphones and the web. As well as some oxygen for the brain – as we schedule regular breaks for team building, games and outdoor challenges. Our camps are designed to be affordable, working out at just over £3 per hour. £169 per child. Discounted price of £299 for 2 siblings or friends. If your child qualifies for free school meals and you would like to apply for a bursary for 2014, please email us to register your interest. Shorter day option and part week, available upon request Any queries, please call Julie on 077699 78225 #Halfterm Tech/digital making Sport Camp 8-16 years @ St Mary's UC #Twick #Tedd Last few places Register now! http://bit.ly/1atFhXr Inaugural Coder Dojo, SW London, in Richmond upon Thames November 3rd 1-4pm Coder Dojo is global network of computer clubs, a place for young people to learn to code, develop websites, apps, games and more for free. Dojos are set up, run by and taught at by volunteers. Coder Dojo is coming to SW London, the first FREE drop in session will be kindly hosted by PayPal, eBay. Booking is via eventbrite as places are limited. Sign up http://bit.ly/1gpMwrX Kids - bring your parent/carer and stay with them throughout the session. Bring your own laptop and power cable. Be cool! Be creative! Inaugural Coder Dojo Richmond Nov 3rd 1-4pm Kids bring laptop + parent! Sign up http://bit.ly/1gpMwrX Hosted thanks @PayPalUK@eBay_UK -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual boot 12.10 64bit
Hi did this message get to people on the mailing list? In Reply To Dual boot 12.10 64bit Mar 26, 2013; 10:02pm — by Andres Muniz Andres Muniz Hello all, I just tried to help a friend install ubuntu12.04 64bit on an hp laptop. The laptop has windows7 64 bit it seems to have a 1meg partition, a 200meg partition, the recovery stuff that windows seems to do nowadays and the actual windows partition. This last partition was reduced to 100+gb leaving 400+gb of fat32 that he planned using as an exchange drive between windows and ubuntu. We inserted an ubuntu disc 64bit and it did not offer to install ubuntu side by side. We deliberated about resizing the fat32 partition with the installer but decided against it. Documentation and/or askUbuntu seems to sugest it is better to partition using windows tools so it does not get confused. We went back to windows and re sized 100+gb drive and left 20gb of unallocated space. For some reason the resizing tool on windows did not work on the fat32. Went back to the ubuntu disk and it still did not offer side by side option so we went for manual. But the 20gb of in allocated space was not there. At this point our 2hr of allocated time was up. But we are at a bit of a dead end. As a bit of history he was running wubi. We uninstalled it from windows but there still is a left over ubuntu option that does not work. But that is not a problem now. My question is: how do i get the installer to ask us to install ubuntu side by side as it used to? As a bonus, when he gets ubuntu installed, how does he get rid if the wubi chooser left over? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/Dual-boot-12-10-64bit-tp5019111p5019930.html Sent from the ubuntu-uk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any recommendations for an xhtml editor
- Mensaje original - None of this is helping Mike Hingley with his original question, but, anyone have any recommendations for the easiest way to do LaTeX - (x)html? I know what not to use: LyX and using other wysiwyg like abiword and libreoffice with some addon is a bad idea. I have seen people generate web pages from LaTeX encoding and I am curious to know how. I think they use it here http://gwyddion.net/documentation might be the other way around. on wysiwyg and html i have seen that opening an html file generated by ms-word (2010) with libreoffice (3, I recall) Write and saving it as html changes the table formatting at the least. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any recommendations for an xhtml editor
- Mensaje original - Hello people... I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for a wysiwyg editor for ubuntu? Ideally I was looking for something like kompozer, but without the KDE requirement (it does have a KDE requirement right?) cheers! Mike Hingley found original post. Sorry for mis using digest. http://kompozer.net/ says it does not have anything to do with kde but works in kde. It is gtk. Seems to be powered by mozilla. Duckduckgo suggests seamonkey and bluegriffon as alternatives. Features sound really good on kompozer but I think some knowledge of html is always needed. I would be concerned that latest news is from november2010. Sorry I cannot be of any help I normally use web pages that do the CSS and hosting for me. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data
- Mensaje original - I'm responding to both Andres and Alan, because my answers are related. On 2012-11-17 21:02, Andres Muniz wrote: wow this shred stuff is really interesting. If i have EXT4 running on a solid state drive (ssd), does it mean that doing a shred will significantly reduce the life of the ssd? It will reduce the life of the SSD by one write per block, per pass of shred. On 2012-11-16 17:30, Alan Pope wrote: More passes don't really give you any benefit. A simple single run of dd is sufficient. That depends against what you are trying to defend. It is possible, with specialist tools, to recover data after a single wipe. This is especially true when the wipe is done with uniform data, such as all zeros. So if you want to prevent the next owner of a laptop from running photorec, one pass is fine. If you want to stop a data recovery specialist or intelligence agency, it is not. And Andres, securely deleting SSDs requires another tool. I suggest reading the following: http://arstechnica.com/security/2011/03/ask-ars-how-can-i-safely-erase-the-data-from-my-ssd-drive/ http://www.unixmen.com/secure-erase-your-ssd/ http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20115106-285/how-to-securely-erase-an-ssd-drive/ Regards, Tyler thanks!-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data
- Mensaje original - On 16/11/12 17:00, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: Only with shred you get useful progress output, and can optionally do more passes with more secure data. shred is part of coreutils and is included on all Ubuntu Live CDs. More passes don't really give you any benefit. A simple single run of dd is sufficient. wow this shred stuff is really interesting. If i have EXT4 running on a solid state drive (ssd), does it mean that doing a shred will significantly reduce the life of the ssd? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gnu Media goblin: 4 days left!
- Mensaje original - Andre, Thanks for this. In what way is this different from Piwigo? http://piwigo.org/ Cheers, Bruno hi Bruno, thanks for the link! It looks good and will probably look into. but these are the differences i can come up with: - media goblin is not only for images: it can take video, audio, ascii art and lately they have added 3d modelling. And they are looking into add more stuff. - Media goblin is clearly set as AGPL. Heard about it in the free as in freedom podcast, and it is backed by fsf. - Just like kickstarter fsf takes a part of the benefits and also develops the kickstarter-like scheme for future projects. - There is all the stuff about decentralized web that seems like the way to go with internet. The media goblin introduction video is pretty good. Anyway: 3 days to go. On 05/11/12 19:18, Andres Muniz wrote: https://blogs.fsfe.org/thomaslocke/2012/10/28/mediagoblin-an-emerging-free-and-open-media-publishing-platform/?pk_campaign=enewsletterpk_kwd=201211 http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html hi, i do not think this was mentioned here and I hope I'm not being a spam. It is an alternative to sites like flickr and you tube but not centralized. What made me want to donate them apart from being something i want to use myself is that it is backed by fsf and that the development of crowdfunding interface is all open so it will be improved for future projects. 4 days left please consider donating. Regards, Andres - Mensaje original - Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-uk-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Gnu Media goblin: 4 days left!
https://blogs.fsfe.org/thomaslocke/2012/10/28/mediagoblin-an-emerging-free-and-open-media-publishing-platform/?pk_campaign=enewsletterpk_kwd=201211 http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html hi, i do not think this was mentioned here and I hope I'm not being a spam. It is an alternative to sites like flickr and you tube but not centralized. What made me want to donate them apart from being something i want to use myself is that it is backed by fsf and that the development of crowdfunding interface is all open so it will be improved for future projects. 4 days left please consider donating. Regards, Andres - Mensaje original - Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-uk-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Nexus 7
- Mensaje original - On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:02:58 +0100 Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: [snip] Can it run Jack Audio and puredata? I'll find out next week. Excellent http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4677528 and http://www.chizang.net/alex/blog/2012/10/20/3440/ 'core' Ubuntu to me would include sound, and, as this is a 'known' hardware platform, it could all become most interesting. cheers -- Keith Burnett http://sohcahtoa.org.uk/ my wife has one... Dual boot would be great! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Royal mail using acrobat
- Mensaje original - On Sat, 20 Oct 2012, Andres Muniz wrote: cannot open pdf postage from the royal mail website? Could you give a URL/link, and some additional context about exactly what you're seeing. For myself, the following PDF opens automatically in Evince: http://www.royalmail.com/sites/default/files/Royal%20Mail_Our_Prices2012.pdf -Paul the pdf was of a printed postage, so it's after paying for it and the postage is valid only for the next day luckly i had a windows machine and i could log in to royal mail from there. A bit difficult to send the link I think. It seems some one else managed to print postage, so i guess i was being daft. What i got was a pdf that evince could not open. i have to send a letter (snail mail) soon so i'll try again. Thanks for your help. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Royal mail using acrobat
Hello, has anybody noticed that we (linux users) cannot open pdf postage from the royal mail website? It seems to be forcing me to install acrobat. I could have sworn i could do this before. Or am I missing something?-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Helping dual boot/wubi
- Original message - On 25 September 2012 21:32, Andres andre...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry long email but I do not know how to separate it in chunks. Not all updates can be installed run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. This could be cause by: *a previous upgrade that could not complete *problems with some of the installed software * unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu *normal changes of a pre-realease of ubuntu. I recently had the same error messages, and the problem was, very simply - a full hard disk. As you are using Wubi, I feel it is likely that you may be experiencing the same problem. -- Regards, Andy thanks Andy!-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Helping dual boot/wubi
Sorry long email but I do not know how to separate it in chunks. I attach the screen shots and as mentioned plan to the install the new system from the SD Card some time on Thursday. Hello All, Yesterday I tried to help a friend who's installation would not update. I thought it was ubuntu on a dual boot way. But when I got there I realized that in reality it was wubi. The system was all backed up in a separate NTFS partition and was ready to start over. So we did a live USB (live SD in this case) of ubuntu 64 bit (the machine is an HP pavilion 64 bit with windows 7). The live mode worked fine and we selected try ubuntu. By the way how can I suggest to make the button bigger so that it covers the image as well? Within the live mode we clicked install but it only offered earse all or something else. And in the something else option I was a bit scared because it seemed the only way to create a partition for a new ubuntu installation was by changing the full partition table. Why isn't there the install alongside windows option? I quit the installation and it gave me an error that was an already reported bug. Very nice, it even guided me to the bug report in case I wanted to add comments. None needed. I then went back to the wubi install. The main thing that my friend wanted is for it to boot directly to ubuntu by default. It now defaults to win7. I thought there might be some sort of options program within the ubuntu installation in windows but I could not find that. I also could not find a place within windows 7 to change those boot options. So second fail on my part. Last option was to check the issue of it not updating. There was 0.5GB waiting to be updated. Many of it was security updates. So I said it was worth just selecting an update (and it's dependencies) and try that. The window would just be stuck in the wait... We waited for a couple of minutes and ran out of conversation so I thought something was wrong. I then tried to run update-manager from the command line and a different error came up. before loading the list of updates available. This error was the error that my friend was having in the past: Not all updates can be installed run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. This could be cause by: *a previous upgrade that could not complete *problems with some of the installed software * unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu *normal changes of a pre-realease of ubuntu. The ubuntu on windows thing was installed on July 2012 version 12.04 so it shouldn't be that. Possibly problems with installed software? the only unofficial source found was google talk. Pre-release definitely not. I then click on partial upgrade and I got the following error. unable to get excluse lock. this normally means that another package management is running like apt-get or aptitude). Please close that aplication first. I did not have that one open. After I left the situation got worst: A couple of new changes I have noted: I can now access the Software Centre Screen I still can't load or remove programs. 1. My disc utility program, which I have been using to access my big joint memory 503 GB partition, come up with a blank screen. I have tried replacing it but as mentioned in 1 above I can't add or remove programmes. 2. I am only mentioning this now, as I feel I need to start installing the other version of Ubuntu, because I want it all working before I get to (...). I would be gratefully to receive any suggestions before I move on to that. I recommended to reinstall ubuntu the wubi way since it was the quickest: I cannot do the installation in such short notice. Also since my friend had done it once it should be easy to reproduce. hopefully it is the best. But it seems I have broken something. But I do not know how. My friend really does not like to use windows and really likes ubuntu much better so before he leaves on Thursday he would like to get ubuntu working. Apart from the questions above I wanted to know if I took a wrong turn somewhere or if I could have done this a better way. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Fat32 check disc and defragment
Hello all, Is there a way to do a check disk and/or defragment a fat32 drive within ubuntu? My phone is about to be 4 years old and because I keep messing with it in a certain way I suddenly loose access to the fat32 drive and need to do a check disk. I could not find how to do it on ubuntu the check disc button on the disc manager seemed to find it in working order and did nothing. While on windows i also preformed a much needed defrag: podcast subscription and erasing. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software for a 6 year old
- Original message - On 26/08/12 17:28, Bruno Girin wrote: I was planning to upgrade to 12.04 and install Scratch and TurtleArt. Other than that, I would welcome any suggestion of fun software for a 6 year old. Frozen Bubble seems to go down well in my experience. i would not recomend games: rather software of things she might like and would enjoy more then a game and be more fulfilling: a simple program like home sweet home (don't remember the exact name) to do some interior design. Pitivi for editing a videos simple image editors (not as simple as tuxpaint but less than the gimp) inkscape might be too much. something to do cartoons: sygfig i believe did that. Blender might be too much. Bottom line, I'd ask her. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film
- Mensaje original - snip Kind of defeats then object of running Ubuntu, if you have to install windows doesnt it..is it something that might happen in the future, or is it not going to happen... /snip It's down to the hosts though, Lovefilm and Netflix, I know on one of the sites ( Lovefilm i believe ) it was one of the most requested features last year to bring it to XBMC on linux but I think the response was not at this time. Its the main reason why I use neither of the services at the moment as I solely use *nix on my media centres and thus can't use there services. Andy this might be silly, but maybe installing a web browser through wine? And adding silverlight to that browser?-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Login background [was] Lost sound
I had not see this before because the login screen is basically dark purple with black text, with only the login box really standing out. I tried to change the login background but so far failed to get it to see a new image. might be very basic answer but i have found that for 12.04 (not studio) the login background is linked to the desktop background. Unless you choose a picture outside of the default images offered. In which case I seem to recall it defaults to a particular background different from your desktop background. Last i checked I still had the small font problem and the unable to shutdown if other user is logged in problem (and gives no feedback as to why or how). -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Python Training at Thyme software/Linux Emporium
- Mensaje original - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So for the past 3 days I been on a python course and I thought it a good opportunity to explain why and what I got from it. My past: Unlike many at Canonical I'm not from a technical software, coding or office back ground. I drove lorries (rigid trucks the size of semis) for a living. I had a shoulder injury that meant that I was unable to do that any more, while I was off I worked at testing the iso images for the entire Ubuntu family. Every QA manager got me a contract for the end of a release and worked hard to get me a full time position with Canonical. The Present: Heno got in touch to let me know there was a QA position I'd be ideal for within ISD at the time , now Commercial Applications (online services) and I got it, woohoo. Since then I've worked hard breaking nearly every piece of software I touch (only to make it better honest). However it is getting more and more imperative that there are good automated functional tests in place for regression, not coming from a programming background I read what I could on python and I've fudged together some basic scripts that work as much as they need to, but was coming to the end of my knowledge very quickly. The Course: I wanted to get on a course that would not get me programming as such but understanding what python was and did with code. I wanted to understand how to write better code with a greater ease. To that end I booked a course with Thyme Software (John Pinners Company). The Training was refactored slightly to help me with the goals above. hi, could you drop a link or contact, i might be interested but tried ducking it and could not find the company but many cooking websites. Day 1: Normally there is a brief intro with a description of the differences with the language you are currently coding in. However for me John started with a whole heap of small examples that taught me what python did with items in memory and how objects could be link to that byte code in memory, he showed me where I could get good examples of code that showed how commands worked rather than the more technical stuff that you see in man pages, python help, and pythons online docs (1). Because day one was basically made up of understanding how python worked it meant that day 2 and 3 then made a whole lot of sense all of a sudden. Day 2: Covered all the basics tuples, dicts, lists, strings, numbers and then went onto functions and basic modules info as I had an idea about them already. Now the stuff I spent an entire day on in Day 1 suddenly made a whole heap of sense, it meant I could look at the basic example code and mostly predict the behaviour correctly by just looking at the code. This then lead onto running the Gotcha code examples to give me a better understanding of that, and then a video on unicode!!! (that if you haven't seen it GO DO IT NOW! (2)) Day 3: Got mind bending with OO concepts, classes, file operations, functional programming, generators and finally unittests and exception handling. However a lot of it was easier to follow as I could at least understand roughly what python was likely to do with it. This lead onto writing a bunch of small functions to grab data from a basic module and a basic text file and interact with it to give different results. Finally John covered a small amount on Gui application creation for QT in python with a few basic peices of example code. All in all it was a really good course that has helped me a great deal. John has done a free one day extension for me to cover some more complex stuff that we ran out of time for, due to spending so much time get me to understand what python does with code. I heartily recommend this course to anyone that needs to learn python (1) http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/ shows basic code examples over a technical description on how it works (2) http://pyvideo.org/video/948/pragmatic-unicode-or-how-do-i-stop-the-pain - -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/+qkQACgkQT5xqyT+h3Oid8wCfdr7KvExZBGb1TE+9HRU41fng 3PEAoL7EhsFO5tg1h/GnBpgkJNE9BWLx =+583 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gaming/ advertizing on Ubuntu
So, brain storm? so, what would be the best way? Find the person that gets the most amount of hits on ubuntu related videos and ask for some pointers or ask them to do some focused Review? E.g. Nixie pixel did a small review on ubuntu-tv . Was that canonical approaching youtubers or youtubers approaching canonical at a stand? I follow this microsoft pr guy @benthepcguy who came up with some nice promotions for their products. And i remember there where some indicators that showed how good your activities where. And it seems that some times it is good that they say good or bad things just as long as they talk about your product. (I personally don't like this but seems to work for others. I liked the celebrate ubuntu channel and the ubuntu app showdown was really good and has potential to grow exponentially IMHO. A little video story of the creation of an open source project and how it gets improved by comments, translations, patches,.. By the comunity. Would be a nice thing. Seeing things evolve on community efforts seems like a good thing to show off. The canonical floor lit before the nokia promo was good as well, but how good was it? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gaming on Ubuntu
- Mensaje original - Hi Ivan, On 10/07/12 15:44, Ivan Wright wrote: Or maybe people aren't interested in Youtube anymore? Interesting stats you have there Ivan, thanks for that. I think there's probably less interest in the distro review style videos. My youtube stream is awash with them, most of which just show the desktop and read out the package list from the menu. Not a huge amount of value on those. I suspect there more to be had in original content like tutorials and game walk-thoughs, but they usually require a significant investment of time. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ I follow a youtube channel done by Nixie Pixie, seems she can help out on the gaming and advertizing front? See one of the episode notes: Linux Games : What You Should Know de nixiedoeslinux on YouTube Linux Games : What You Should Know Both Steam and Source have been rumored to be coming to Linux for years. Linux games are probably the biggest need when it comes to Linux software. || Join the chat: www.facebook.com || And having people adopt OS's like Ubuntu for their desktops at home. | So Valve's recent announcement that Steam Source will soon be running natively on Linux is a huge deal for gamers like me. I can't wait to load up Steam in Ubuntu - check out this episode of OS.ALT for more of my thoughts! Valve Needs Linux Developers: www.steamforlinux.com Great Website on Linux Gaming: www.phoronix.com From: nixiedoeslinux Views: 22518 984 ratings Time: 04:44 More in Science Technology -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gaming on Ubuntu
- Mensaje original - The best way to get a linux gaming page could be a updated ebook style format-much like the introduction to linux (in pdf format from ages ago) that explains everything clearly for newcomers. A book style approach (in digital format) could include documentation on games, sources (ppas) of games for linux, links to wine emulator, ways to set up more complex things in ubuntu (i.e. running windows programs if required) etc so that it is easy to find. We must also be careful not to get the impression that we are persuading people to switch, more like showing there are alternatives. By that i mean not to give them a talk(rant) of why (insert fav OS) is better than (name another OS). I think the best way to advertise gaming [for linux][ it is to make it mainstream-let me explain. If they find some random forum discussion where geeks share ideas they may get the wrong impressions about linux (most of them are easier to use than windows, since everything is configurable). A better approach may be to let users know that there are a lot of good games out there (and when steam arrives that will be a LOT more). Personally, I can see the switch happening as msft took 25 years of work and got rid of it. The start menu was not bad... My ideas on the matter was more towards getting 12.10 more ready out of the box-by that i mean dvd playback, vlc media player (now that you have to pay to get windows media centre(?)) and other common programs. That way the first impressions of win 8 for the average user would be: 1-where is the start menu!!!??? 2-how do i get rid of metro and go back to classic windows!? 3-very untituitive, have to relearn everything 4-spent £1000 on laptop, now have to spend 25 more (if have win pro) to get media centre-(some people still use it) On the other hand on ubuntu side it will be 1-have to relearn anyway so why not try this-wait, you can go back to a similar (gnome 2/xfce) windows feel on this free os! :-) 2-a lot of programs are free with good support (dropbox, office suite, pdf reader, web browser, pic manager etc etc) 3-there are games for it (on ubuntu software centre and hopefully on steam by that time) 4-huge community support 5-less viruses ( etc...) Basically we need to let people know that there is support out there for people switching-the vast majority(non geeks) wont try hard[read- at all] if it isnt working-they will go back to what they know. If we can advertise the ammount of support that people can receive that will have a greater impact on all aspects of ubuntu. More people (potentially more publicity/ more developers will start coding for it), better applications, quicker fixes etc etc, better hardware support because of 1. Currently linux hangs about 1-2% of consumer (not server) market, thats I thought the number was more in the 5% area. If you take the amount of hits wikipedia gets from linux os. (This probably is helped by android). why no one really knows anything about it (outside specialised sphere of techs and geeks). I think people arent switching because there are reluctant to change (gonna have to any way!) the way they do things and the reluctance to relearn anything, even if it is vastly superior to what they used before (of course , until they realise it is much easier/more effective, unfortunately that could take months). What do other people think??? On 9 July 2012 20:36, Daniel Case danielcas...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, If you haven't heard, Windows 8 drops in October (around the release of 12.10) and a lot of speculation says people will be looking for alternate operating systems, Windows 8 gets rid of a lot and it is another Windows Vista as it were, whereas Unity has become a pleasure to use. So I think Ubuntu may get a lot of new users during this time... Some of the main things that stop users migrating are gaming, programs not working etc, but Steam is releasing a client for Linux and Unity (the gaming engine) as well, I think this page could do with an update: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/ and also, could we write a new page about Linux Gaming and get it to the first page of Google? At the moment the second result is an article from 2009: https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chromeclient=ubuntuchannel=csie=UTF-8q=gaming+linux Mono -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ there are some videos on youtube of people gaming on linux based distros. Some of the games are not even played with wine and look pretty spectacular thanks to openGL (i think). Showing that and some of the stuff that already came out of the humble indie bundle. that being said it has been a long time since I've done any serious gaming. Appart from angry words. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Starting an IT workshop
- Mensaje original - Hi Andres! I've taught adults for a long time (30 years) and there's a good rule: start from where they're already at. So find out as much as you can about what they already potentially know, and also what they'd like to be able to do. Then plan to at least deal with the aspirations that are practically achievable. If you can't find out beforehand, then go for something basic but enjoyable: using the Internet in Ubuntu is a good one, emphasising its secure nature and lack of viruses. Get back to me if you need any help. On 28/06/12 22:49, Andres wrote: I have just been to a local neighbourhood community [0] meeting and thought ann IT workshop would help out. The group already does workshops relating to gardening, bicycle maintenance and such. My question is: how do I propose it in your experience? What I have for the moment is an old laptop, I would like to order a bunch ubuntu CDs if I can to hand out I know my way around computers but I'm not a professional but I think I have a lot of patience explaining IT stuff to children and adults. I like talking to people about using libreoffice instead of MS office, ubuntu instead of windows,... The community can offer an enclosed place The little House or the library. Both can take about 10 people. Would it be best to start with something simple? or look alliance with some other community that already exists and are looking for a place to do some sort of mini workshop. This is what they did with the bicycle workshop. So I was asked to source some info to take back to the meeting for next month. Can someone point me in the right direction? [0] http://www.hamunitedgroup.org.uk -- Beatrix E. Groves BA Hons (Educ) LCGI MAPTT MIFL QTLS President, Institute for Learning (IfL) General Secretary, Association of Part-Time Tutors (APTT) ~~ Email: beagro...@gmail.com Email: b...@beagroves.net Web: http://www.beagroves.net Blog: http://beagroves.tumblr.com wow people! Thanks for all your help! Have a lot of reading to get on with. I'll write a plan up so that i can discuss it with the comunity. And you all, if I may. Definately would not like to fix windows. Nor macs. In case someone is in the TW10 and is looking for a place something similar, please let me know. oh! Just got confirmation that I have internet access as well! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu's Plans To Implement UEFI SecureBoot: No GRUB2
Sorry for those that probably recieve this. But thught might be of interest on the subject. - Mensaje original - # Free Software Supporter Issue 51, June 2012 ***snip*** ### FSF recommendations for free operating system distributions considering Secure Boot (2012-06-30) We have been working hard the last several months to stop Restricted Boot, a major threat to user freedom, free software ideals, and free software adoption. Under the guise of security, a computer afflicted with Restricted Boot refuses to boot any operating systems other than the ones the computer distributor has approved in advance. Restricted Boot takes control of the computer away from the user and puts it in the hands of someone else. This is distinct from Secure Boot, where the user has full control over the system. Recently, two popular GNU/Linux distributions have announced their plans to support Secure Boot. In this article, we review their plans, and lay out our current strategy for addressing the threats and difficulties posed by this new technology for the free software movement. We find any approach that requires users to trust Microsoft or any proprietary software company unacceptable, and urge distributions to pursue other solutions. * http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/whitepaper.pdf * http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/whitepaper-web * http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu in india
- Mensaje original - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stuart, Whilst it's a bummer that they don't make every device available with every OS combination... On 27/06/12 16:09, Stuart Ward wrote: emailing, web browsing, home use etc, 15:46:24 Agent Naresh_Takemalla I can get you a quote done for a latitude laptop with out OS. ^^ that is excellent news. You just chat to the guy and he says Yes, we can do a laptop with no OS. I mean, no good for end users who don't like installing OSs, but for someone such as yourself, should be a doddle. I commend them for offering that option! 15:46:42 Agent Naresh_Takemalla Would you prefer 15.6 inch or 14.1 inch screen size laptop? 15:46:42 Customer Stuart I was directed to dell because they are supposed to support Ubuntu now that doesn't sound like support. Was that how you left the conversation? Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager cutting out mozilla private key*** Agreed I ended a similar conversation with an adobe support requesting them to write down feedback (i wanted photoshop). Same with virgin media (wanted their free programs). I would think it is better to end in a positive tone. Ok thanks, I'll think about it, can I provide feedback? Might go down a black hole but it is recorded. Other than that, agreed, having no OS is great! You can then get home support for less than £100 a year from canonical (as I recall). That is around the same price as renewing your antivirus every year with windows. Though i have heard w7 and w8 have there essential antivirus bundled in or do not need antivirus any more? Plus Hardware should still have the 1 year warranty? Not the best news but good news! Thanks for sharing the chat! Omgubuntu claim there is an asus netbook around. That seems promising as well. Thinkpinguin.com and system76 are still top of my list when i buy a new laptop. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu showdown
- Mensaje original - On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:30:07 +0100 john j...@creationspacetech.org wrote: Hi All, I really believe that Ubuntu could do something better than the folks at both Mac and Microsoft. The new internet based economy is turning out to be very different to the Web1 economy. In the Intention or Community based economy, the emphasis is turning away from being sold products, such as an iPad. To the customer actually engaging in the development process. Hello John and all Interesting idea, craft fair software? http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/ Is there any way for end users to *suggest* apps for people to build through the USC? Sort of Reddit or Hacker News karma system for suggestions? There is a reddit channel for suggestions and you can make it appear on software centre as expensive as you like. I'm trying to do something but failing to even the simplest program due to lack of concentration. But I'll keep trying. Workshops are great! Since the subject came up. If i was using oneric (or older) and i wanted to update quickly to the latest and greatest... Is there a set a source approach or would compiling it be the only opton? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu in india
- Mensaje original - Having been somebody who bought an Acer Aspire One linux installed computer from pcworld, the kernal installed was Linux Lite, and the guy got one of those! I used the linpus os for a while. (Fedora derivative?) It was the quickest boot I had ever seen and have seen since! I changed to ubuntu netbook edition because of the extra (easy to install) functionallity brought by softwarecentre. told me, they had had almost all the linux laptops returned, biggest reasons, couldnt get it to connect to the internet, no support from ISPs, cant update/use apple products, same with Android product.which is why stopped selling them. Acer Aspire also refused to support anybody who installed any other kernel during the warranty period... Nowadays, people will be reluctant to use a computer they cant use their apple products with. i thought that the only thing that does not work is itunes. And drm books and drm videos. New versions of iDevices seem to update without connecting to a computer. Or so i was told. A collegue claims to only plug to computer to charge. She hates itunes. On 22/06/2012 09:16, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22/06/12 08:09, Chris Fox wrote: From what I recall, they did for a while and it was a monumental failure. Perhaps it was before its time, perhaps Dell didn't do a good enough job of marketing it, but either way I think they did it for a while and then binned the idea. Not true. They still sell Ubuntu laptops. I did a search just yesterday and found about 10 of their models where Ubuntu was an install option. http://search.euro.dell.com/results.aspx?s=genc=ukl=encs=k=ubuntucat=allx=0y=0 tried the link but when i choose one it only offers w7 on next page. I'll keep trying. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP5CncAAoJEMx6UFtfvV4wox4IALXW3r5oTRy4HNxuCSmV/GF8 e5Kn6vJNhIS0i3Q8BSc/wtFEMqNBG/J023Y27qKD0S2gW2maPV31VeDQltX4jDAG ywk5Ol0M/IV5jRsfl/f/Vdda6O6gzemwaGfLl7LP8Azyc6fvAT4WbKInA9iVfliN jAyUF7oM/enEBe0tqUF04itaYAyhYqd3O0Oy2EOjT8fI3jRcvffen+tIB4yH8FD0 CRW+j6uxU5BmRIVdL90Ir8luBa4csH7fHeS8M0v2muyI3sfn7MSzGFrg+Lxo6V9F JG0GAgkJ1Xz8/xOQHX4wUQMVFz8JcfJOsZR2nvr9gQqr7Dm64PVgppA5j36vqFo= =NLw3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu's Plans To Implement UEFI SecureBoot: No GRUB2
- Mensaje original - Just saw this... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTEyNDY since this was brought up: would this delay boot times? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] heads up - Secure Boot Problems for Linux Users Are Here Already
- Mensaje original - On 02/06/12 15:56, Alan Bell wrote: Could linux foundation do the same for the servers? beause they can be cracked in a similar way? servers generally won't get the secure boot thing. Odd really because it kind of makes more sense to me in that context. Probably because the biggest market for servers is corporate customers who have their own IT department and who would very quickly go see another supplier if they had to fiddle with settings in order to install the operating system of their choice on their systems. For a typical large corporate that regularly installs dozens of servers, any change in installation procedure means: * Re-train the whole of IT, * Change all training and documentation material, * Update the process of how business units get servers commissioned, * Find a way to phase in the new process while phasing out the old one, * Getting confirmation from suppliers of what exact models will have UEFI so that they can have clear guidance: if model A, then do process 1 else do process 2, * Factor in additional costs and delays for the inevitable cock-ups that will happen. It's an interesting game that Microsoft are playing and I'm wondering whether their primary motivation is to lock competition out or to force the last refuseniks off XP and onto a more recent version of Windows. From an OEM perspective, what could happen is that you would see UEFI on consumer ranges first, where customers tend to just go with what's pre-installed, and then slowly see it appear on business ranges, where customers tend to wipe the pre-installed OS and replace it with their in-house image. The fact that this logic is completely at odds with the security benefits of UEFI secure booting only makes sense if you see it from an accounting point of view: secure boot is a technical tool to mitigate the risk of a server getting compromised. This is modelled as a risk with associated cost (cost of rebuilding a compromised server, checking if it's the only compromised one, potential reputation costs, etc). Most companies already mitigate that risk using firewalls, intrusion detection systems, etc. Mitigation is not perfect so there is a residual risk with associated cost. UEFI secure boot is then an opportunity to reduce this residual cost through additional mitigation. If the cost saving that results from migrating the estate to UEFI secure boot is lower than the cost of actually doing it, companies will just stay put with what they have, accept the risk and pay the price whenever the risk is realised. So the fact that servers won't get the secure boot option is simply a sign that nobody has yet managed to demonstrate that the cost of introducing secure boot in a corporate environment was lower than the potential cost of the risk it mitigates. Cheers, Bruno thanks for the info guys! Got more than I need! I was a bit concernd that some servers were using arm as well. But clearly it will not be a problem. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] heads up - Secure Boot Problems for Linux Users Are Here Already
- Mensaje original - On 01/06/12 13:58, Matt Wheeler wrote: On 1 June 2012 08:02, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Time has passed. The problem has now matured, and Fedora have accepted defeat and decided to pay to be allowed to use Microsoft restricted hardware. Implementing UEFI Secure Boot in Fedora Linux http://j.mp/KZykUS According to an update to that article, the money actually goes to verisign, and anyone can get a signing key from them for $99. So actually (without having looked into it any further) this looks like quite a reasonable solution to securing system booting in general. Anyone have any further insight? Only that Microsoft are the gatekeeper, and can change the rules whenever their brass neck allows them to, as they have just done. Rather clever, I think. Never trust the smile on a crocodile. Or its love of open source. On a day to day basis, if a machine has a mainboard which has a secure boot 'off' switch, then that is what I will use, because I do not want nor need Microsoft stuff. But if someone wants what we used to know as 'dual boot', then they will need to run day by day on the mainboard which is set FOR secure boot (for Windows 8), so the GNU/Linux OS will need to be suitably signed in that situation. For Ubuntu, WUBI comes to mind although I am aware that there are occasionally enough problems with some grub updates that I stopped recommending wubi a long time ago except for very short term trials. -- alan cocks I'm getting a bit confused now. Everybody seems Does the fedora payment of $99 to verisign mean that the computer that could or could not have windows preinstalled will alow to install fedora and windows but not fedora derivatives? Would fedora users then have the hability to easily turn it off? The ideal bit could be that fedora users could also avoid windows usrers in the grounds that it's probable source of malwar? Could linux foundation do the same for the servers? beause they can be cracked in a similar way? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mounting drive and closing users
- Mensaje original - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/05/12 23:19, Andres Muniz wrote: Short: how do I get that when my user closes it also makes drives that were (are) mounted availble for other users to mount? If you want something mounted and available for all users you should maybe specify it in /etc/fstab. This has a nice set of answers:- http://askubuntu.com/questions/1644/mounting-a-usb-disk-in-a-permanent-location i do not want it mounted. I would want to see it. Unmounted. Seen the link, a bit too complicated: not much of an issue: is it safe to unplug the usb after i closed the user that had it mounted? If so i'd just unplug and plug it back in. My long story: I noticed something yesterday on ubuntu 12.04. My wife mounted our windows drive on her user account she then closed her account(closed not switched) and I open mine and I could not see the windows drive. I switched and opened my wife's account and found the drive mounted automatically. I select unmount safely and colse the user (my wife's) and go back to mine. And there i see the drive: unmounted. This is normal/expected behaviour and not a bug. out of curiosity. why is this a feature? Is it for security reasons? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Mounting drive and closing users
Hi, hopefully this is not something that has come up. Short: how do I get that when my user closes it also makes drives that were (are) mounted availble for other users to mount? My long story: I noticed something yesterday on ubuntu 12.04. My wife mounted our windows drive on her user account she then closed her account(closed not switched) and I open mine and I could not see the windows drive. I switched and opened my wife's account and found the drive mounted automatically. I select unmount safely and colse the user (my wife's) and go back to mine. And there i see the drive: unmounted. When i say see the drive I mean on the file manager: i have not checked for mouning commands on terminal. Most of the help i have ducked for related to having drives automatically mounted at start up. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 failing for me.
This dilemma will probably result in me doing nothing until the 12.04.1 upgrade. as far as I knew this was the recomened option for going from LTS to LTS. Update manager does not even offer the option on the desktop. Seems it will be some time in july.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] from 10.04 to 12.04 (was HUD vs gnome do)
- Mensaje original - On 19 May 2012 23:14, Andres Muniz andre...@gmail.com wrote: She will consider get more ram but it might be difficult to find because it is something older than ddr I think (dpci?). The previous type of memory to DDR was SDRAM, which came in PC-66, PC-100 and PC-133 speeds. PC-66 was mid-1990s, roughly, PC-100 late '90s and PC-133 around the turn of the century. So it's possible but that would be a 10Y old PC. Must be pc-133 because she said it was 6 years old. Thanks! I said that if it was too slow there where still alternatives (xfce I was thinking). In my experience, XFCE is not much lighter-weight than GNOME or Unity (although it does not require hardware 3D). LXDE (and Lubuntu) are the main lightweight alternative now, I think. thanks for the heads up! She is now on unity2d i think though i did forget to check (face palm!) I had managed to set up some window animations on xfce but not on lxde. I wanted it not too look too dated, I found lxde to be too basic looking. Then again i must be spoilt by compiz unity. Anyway see how it goes! Over all I spent over two hours with her. But I think she really did not need any of it given that for 10.04 we did not even speak and it worked fine for her. Sounds good! one hiccup i found was that i tried to setup her thunderbird for her 4 emails (uni-exsquirrl type?, Hotmail, gmail, ...) and none of them where autodetected. Did not have time to investigate further but i was guessing maybe the webclient needed to be configured. A pity because 4 emails and being offline from time to time made it well worth configuring but we ran out of time!-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] from 10.04 to 12.04 (was HUD vs gnome do)
I hope to show off new OS some time this weekend in a cafe. I'm sure all will go well! I just have to manage not to drop coffee. I managed to impress but it was much too slow. Is it possible that 12.04 is a lot more resource hungry than 10.04? Highlights she had from 10.04 was wobbly windows and the 4 desktops. And tiding up windows with super+S. (It suprised me!). In 12.04 She liked the dash to find music files, and also liked it for running apps. The hud was slow to come up but thought it was intersting. Setting up ubuntu one was confusing for me and her, the window seemed to be loading/syncing but we hit next and seemed to be done. She accidently set to write documents on side by side arangement while on spread mode and I was unable to maximize minimize nor close because the top bar dissapeared. She will consider get more ram but it might be difficult to find because it is something older than ddr I think (dpci?). I said that if it was too slow there where still alternatives (xfce I was thinking). Over all I spent over two hours with her. But I think she really did not need any of it given that for 10.04 we did not even speak and it worked fine for her. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] from 10.04 to 12.04 (was HUD vs gnome do)
- Mensaje original - On 17/05/12 10:33, paul sutton wrote: I had gnome do, never got it, it just displayed a huge icon bar on the screen, so at least with HUD, it does something, from the start. GNOME Do seems more like the Unity Dash (or vice versa really). Press a button and then type what you want to open. Thanks guys! I now get it! Had a play looks great(if a bit slow) I just went from 10.04 to 12.04 using command line do-upgrade -d or something similar. i did not know i had to wait until july for LTS to LTS upgrade. I had some windows pop up during installation with empty rectangles instead of text pop up I guessed i was accepting and it continued to install ok. It now has 12.04 it seems to have defaulted to unity 2d just fine (no graphics card). It's a bit slower (the laptop is dual core but only 512ram) but i hope the owner will not mind. Upgrade took less than 3hrs. I hope to show off new OS some time this weekend in a cafe. I'm sure all will go well! I just have to manage not to drop coffee.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] HUD vs gnome do
I'm hoping to be able to ugrade a machine from the previous LTS to the new LTS this weekend. I'll get the laptop and i hope to be able to meetup with the person to give some guidance. I have not had time to use HUD much but it seems similar to gnome do. Anything special I should add? This particular user uses ubuntu for music and web-browsing almost exclusively so any HUD commands you would recomend. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] HUD vs gnome do
- Mensaje original - HUD is just a keyboard way of accessing the menus instead of the mouse, so no, there are no special commands. Sorry, I explained myself worng. I mean I don't listen to music on ubuntu so i don't know what are the practical commands (menu commands) that can be used in HUD. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Gwibber: where are my channels?
I used to have several channels (columns) in in gwibber. For example one for facebook another for twitter. With one of the updates this was lost. How can I set it back? This would be great to know before I update family and friends systems. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Precise - some thoughts .....
- Mensaje original - O n Tue, 2012-05-08 at 18:10 +0100, Andy Braben wrote: well lots of people use smartphone apps everyday just because they own an android or iphone but have probably never been near the boot menu on their computer - so the idea is it would just tell you which keys to press to get to the boot menu on your particular machine and then how you can choose your boot option. We will include the info on our website as well - so it's easy to find online Sarah Personally, while I see this as very useful information and well worth doing on a website - why do you want an Android app? The website is just as viewable on a phone as it is on any other computer. -- Regards, Andy We were looking at ways to make it easier and more comfortable for people who were not used to doing it to boot from USB or CD into a linux distro - specifically Tuxedu. We had already decided to try to gather this info for our use and to put it on the website when someone offered to write an android app - this spurred us into action Its just different ways to present the info in a way that's easy for people who don't consider themselves 'technical' to use - if we want to get more people using Ubuntu we have to make it easier for them to start - if they fall at the first hurdle because they don't understand what a boot menu is or are too scared to change options then they won't discover how easy Ubuntu is to use. you can quickly forget how intimidating these things are for many people - but if you walk them through how to boot (as we have done with a room full of parents) and explain what and why they are doing it you will have more chance of them actually using the distro in the longterm. Sarah http://www.tuxedu.org/tell-us-how-you-get-your-pc-into-usb-boot-mode/ can I just add that if the app works offline it is great beacause you do not need an internet connection to view the page. Not everybody has wifi routers or even 3g where they are installing it. People will also end up printing up the guide if they can. So a printer friendly version is also a good idea (pdf?) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Updates interupt film
- Mensaje original - On 03/05/12 16:47, Andres Muniz wrote: My wife claims this happened to her: she was watching a web video on full screen mode and the ubuntu updater took her out of full screen mode and set it's self on top of the web page. Sounds plausible. I would file a bug. I don't think anything should pop over a video whether flash or local media. Alternatives include:- * Setting your wife to not be an administrator so she never gets the update notifications * Install apticron to email you when updates are available * Set update manager to check less regularly for updates, or autodownload and install updates. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Wow! Great suggestions I'll check if it happens again and report it. Will probably make an account for her seems the easiest. Thanks! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Updates interupt film
My wife claims this happened to her: she was watching a web video on full screen mode and the ubuntu updater took her out of full screen mode and set it's self on top of the web page. Has this happened to anybody else? Sadly this happened one day after i praised how little invasive updates on ubuntu compared to windows. (The little wiggle effect on the launch bar had ammused her.) So she told me This is way worst than the annoying bubble on the bottom right(...)-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Where do the ubuntu reports go?
Lately my ubuntu 12.04 has been finding problems that i did not know i had and asking me if i wanted to report them. I say yes and off they go. Is this something official or do I have myself a nice troyan? It does not offer me to see what I'm sending. Or maybe missed it?-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where do the ubuntu reports go?
- Mensaje original - On 1 May 2012 22:23, Andres Muniz andre...@gmail.com wrote: Lately my ubuntu 12.04 has been finding problems that i did not know i had and asking me if i wanted to report them. I say yes and off they go. Is this something official or do I have myself a nice troyan? It does not offer me to see what I'm sending. Or maybe missed it? This might help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport j thanks for the piece of mind. I had no warning about this and it sets me at ease.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where do the ubuntu reports go?
- Mensaje original - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/05/12 09:44, Tony Pursell wrote: ... and this is the most stable version of Ubuntu ever produced? Has anyone asserted that? It's the best version we've ever put out IMO. I'd much rather we had a million crash dumps from hundreds of thousands of machines than none. We now know which apps are more crashy and in some cases why they crash. That's _great_ for us to make the platform better. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope so if privacy setting set on will it come off? I know (or i guess) that no privacy information is sent any way, but: can you tick a check box to say that you do not wish the pop up to come up? As a windows user recieving this type of message from time to time I most of the time say no since a) i do not undersand what goes out when it offers details and b) if it cashed i normally have been waiting for a program to load and instinctively i do not want to wait some more for it to reboot or to continue my work. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....
I'm also not keen on the 'do a re-install' mantra. Its great if you have a minimal system, like I had on my netbook, but my desktop has loads of extras installed that I would have to remember and re-install. i am of the same opinion. Wasn't there the apt on CD thing? And also you could sync your softwarecentre installed programs. But I guess that does not cover things compiled by yourself? (That is a drawback, I suppose of keeping the initial install down to CD size - it doesn't even have LO Base). Then there is always all that re-inputting of email and instant messenger account details. There is a way to save mail settings of thunderbird. But gwibber and messenging account are not there... Might be a good suggestion. What i did as a back up was that i had an ext4 partition of 53gb i copied my 20gb home folder there. And i then upgrated. (Finally know the difference with updating thanks) Is that less secure? I guess a full harddrive failure could happen? I would like to know how to do a \home partition without having to reinstall but this might be too much. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Gcompris and Unity
For some time i was using gcompris erase program (with my toddler most of the tome). Consists of moving a sponge that erases white squares that are overlayed an image. With unity these squares never quite removed leaving some leftovers. Today i moved to unity2D and it worked fine. i'm using ubuntu 11.10. Is it a gcompris problem, unity problem or nvidia problem? Should I wait for ubuntu 12.04? Should i look into installing a more up to date gcompris (compile from source or something?)-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Youtube colour is wrong
Smurf effect removed! Thanks! Finally worked for me by going to nvidia version 173. System settingsdrivers it was set on the [recomended] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screen power off timing
- Mensaje original - Hey Andres, I couldn't find a way to set the time to more than 1 hour, but I remember there was a command that switched it off. You may be able to make a script if you are good with the terminal. xset dpms force off thanks for this, i might give it a go. i'm happy to see i was not being daft. Seems like something relatively easy to implement and I am sure I'm not the only one. Does the ubuntu brain storm thing still work as a suggestion box or would it be better to go into launchpad and clasify it as a bug? On 9 April 2012 16:09, Andres Muniz andre...@gmail.com wrote: ** Hi, i was watching a film today and i wanted the screen to go off some time after i was done watching the film. I found the max time for screen to go off is either 1 hour or never. Is there a way to set it to 2 or 3 hours. Or maybe a costume time? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Update 2012- Re: Fwd: [Ossg-announcements] Adoption of Open Source across HM Government – London 22/02/11 and 01/03/11]]
- Mensaje original - On 14/04/12 16:13, Norman Silverstone wrote: big snip There is also an online consultation on the subject [2]. Once again, it is essential for us to make our voice heard and to reply to it. So take 10 minutes and make your voice heard. [2] http://consultation.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards/ done to the best of my knowledge. I made refernces to fsfe.org of what I did not know.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Youtube colour is wrong
- Mensaje original - On 09/04/12 20:34, Andres Muniz wrote: hi, looks like you tube shows in shades of blue. Really wierd. i was able to see a bbc film alright though. I'm using firefox on ubuntu 11.10. Probably some configuration that my toddler pressed that i have no way to find out. By the way: if you want to test os and apps use a toddler as as a beta tester. Any clues would be great to know. Though I can understand wanting to blame a toddler - been there done that ... It's not ;) hum.. There are a few fixes kicking about. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11824089postcount=1 Kev thanks! Smurf effect finally know how to call it.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Screen power off timing
Hi, i was watching a film today and i wanted the screen to go off some time after i was done watching the film. I found the max time for screen to go off is either 1 hour or never. Is there a way to set it to 2 or 3 hours. Or maybe a costume time?-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Youtube colour is wrong
hi, looks like you tube shows in shades of blue. Really wierd. i was able to see a bbc film alright though. I'm using firefox on ubuntu 11.10. Probably some configuration that my toddler pressed that i have no way to find out. By the way: if you want to test os and apps use a toddler as as a beta tester. Any clues would be great to know.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Shutdown bug?
Hi all, I do not know if this is a bug nor do i know how to call it to report it. And maybe it was reported. If I am logged in with one user(a) i then choose to open another user(b) without logging out of user(a). When logged in as (b) and tap shutdown button on my computer and the message apears to saying it will shut down in 60s. I choose shutdown. But it sends me to the log in screen with no feedback as to why i can not shut down. In the log in sceen i tap the power button once like befor but nothing happens. I then go to the top right and select shutdown and nothing happens. What i need to do is log into user (a) and shutdown from there. (A) is a normal user. (b) is admin group.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Precise Pangolin Release Party - London, 26th April
Paid for snacks and drinks? Really? If we don't make it by 18:30hrs would we still be able to join? - Mensaje original - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27/03/12 14:42, James Thomas wrote: yay! :) Woo! Yay! and Hoopla! indeed. - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPcdLJAAoJEMx6UFtfvV4wMnoH+gMtZK1DKCaVQ0c4wOR6w0OS 2kJu1/o2CkKNVIX60MA/OWfWcbtGv1iuaxLFytt9J7UrCwCqUemhQcvHuHW0KtMa Xwobgl1oj144p/AVTKrTrCyloWqckTCKUjEJMu2I51hsFldwy2PLq3gm3Y/VXjAd +NPR0r7aCEYxUTZVF12b8D9PJIeAN/CqDhh8PNMfyqlquPhOf14583THsyNSvnu3 BpSQKiRZD4r0cSHCbx2KP8UW9RnQNTdNTm2GdbrWPg+H7vTFSPGSd36PCsK7dO25 M1gigIHFfW00XLUApR6+DQK6epRuhDC+uXtUoc7EaGBz3ZWHKmQX4ShtEFKyuXU= =B2RS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Free lunch?
On 25/03/12 11:06, alan c wrote: On 24/03/12 11:08, Chris Penston wrote: [snip of really good stuff] People tend to be impressed by the novelty that they have a choice. Almost always, the reaction is astonishment that something can be so good without costing anything 'so there must be a catch'. Yes I find that a lot, also. It is difficult explaining that although there is no such thing as a free lunch (probably true), that there *is* Libre software. But then, there is -some- good in the world. I was in Paris for a short trip recently and on two occasions, complete strangers helped with acts of kindness. One gent insisted I took his seat on a crowded bus (1) and later that day I (we) were lost on the Metro and a couple noticed this and helped us get sorted. 1) He looked at least as old as I am! But I guess he saw my walking stick and also I was very unpractised and clumsy trying to get a hand hold. Slightly embarrassing to get noticed in such a way, but heartwarming and appreciated nevertheless. 'keep calm and carry on!' The times are changing. Yay! I am glad you brought this up. Whilst going over the free software concept with my neighbour whilst setting ubuntu on a USB stick for her to try out she mentioned So there is not going to be pop ups asking me for purchasing such and such or asking for donations?. I was happy to say no. But that there where places where she could donate to help the cause. I normally just tell them that there are big companies competing against each other using the same product and they can use each others improvements so the user is always a winner. And this also lets me share something I suspected but had not basis for it. If someone wants scientific and historical evidence as to why people are now kinder (and give out free lunch!) I could refer them to two books. [1] ¨The better angels our our nature¨ written by Steven Pinker which I am reading now goes over the historical reasons and shows how we are less violent now. That is even taking into account the WW12! [2] Wired for culture: The natural history of human cooperation By Mark Pagel have not read it yet (looking it up in Calibre as I write these lines) but shows how we where able to evolve quicker than other animals because we found cooperation to be more effective. I will probably use these as arguments for the harder to convince. PS: Sorry to the links to newspaper that might not be everybody's cup of tea but it is where I get my podcast from. [1] http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/audio/2012/mar/19/science-weekly-podcast-wired-culture http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/audio/2012/mar/19/science-weekly-podcast-wired-culture http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/audio/2012/mar/19/science-weekly-podcast-wired-culture -- Sent from my Ubuntu desktop -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
- Mensaje original - A tangential one here. Someone made a video of his dad trying Win8 for the first time. Worth a serious watch. There but for the grace of God go I. (But not to Windows for me though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4boTbv9_nUfeature=youtu.be -- alan cocks sorry following up on tangencial here. Did the same experiment with aero, OSX and ubuntu 10.11. What i take away was that the mac close minimize animation helps answer the question where did my stuff go? There was a compiz type animation that did this but not sure I know how to set it up. The multiple desktop thing seen as cool but confusing to use. Also seems that the side by side window feature is needed. Did not know mac and windows had virtual desktops. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
- Mensaje original - On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: I set up a show Alan button on the desktop which makes a keys based ssh session to my home server on a static IP address and forwards his port 22 to a port here. I can then ssh back to him and log in as a user I created on his machine, I can also forward port 5900 and request a desktop share or do other stuff. The important thing is that his end initiates the connection as I have a static IP address and he doesn't, and it is zero effort from his end. I wish this was a bit more built in, I know desktop sharing is built in, but it is mostly initiated from the wrong end. It should be I want to share my desktop with $IP address which is set up and waiting for a connection with a one-time password. The person needing support should not be the one needing to know their external IP address and what port to open. This sounds just great. If it was more built in I would certainly try to use it to support friends I have. Until then, I use teamviewer as a non commercial (non paying) user, and that is good, albeit proprietary. -- alan cocks ditto. I had heard of remmina or something of the sort being easy but i could not get my head around that nor remotedesktop outside the network. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] FW: Copyright consultation: get involved [NP]
FYI. I know some of you are more involved with copyright stuff. From: Richard Booth [mailto:rich...@creativeindustriesktn.org] Sent: 05 March 2012 13:31 To: a...@npl.co.uk Subject: Copyright consultation: get involved Dear Andres Copyright is the dominant form of IP protection for the creative industries, applying to everything from artistic performances to software code. As a member of our IP and Open Source group http://t.ymlp312.net/umsuacamsuqakaqwarajybb/click.php , we are writing to draw your attention to the formal review process currently under way, and what the Creative Industries KTN is doing about it. The outcomes of the current consultation round are likely to reshape what can and cannot legally be done with creative content. However, the documentation is substantial and some of the issues under consideration are somewhat technical. Accordingly, CI KTN is providing a series of short articles which explain the main changes currently under consideration http://t.ymlp312.net/umseapamsuqaaaqwavajybb/click.php , to help you decide whether you would like to contribute your own views and experiences to this consultation exercise. Yours Sincerely Richard Booth Communications Membership Manager Creative Industries Knowledge Transfer Network Telephone: 020 3051 0589 Email: rich...@creativeindustriesktn.org Web: http://www.creativeindustriesktn.org http://t.ymlp312.net/umsmavamsuqaoaqwaaajybb/click.php -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] dig out your old computers...
- Mensaje original - On 03/03/12 22:51, Phill Whiteside wrote: Hiyas, Yeah, for the testing of lubuntu [1] [2] We need some 128Mb RAM machines [2] . These are needed for non PAE chipsets as well. We need to know if the none PAE system install actually will work. We only have one with actual hardware as yet, the others are doing it via VM. We are also testing mac-ppc stuff, seems okay on G4 with quibbles, but an extra G3 equipped person would allow a bug to be confirmed as we only have one person. For the new Intel-Macs, again, we only have one - but that will only get a bug heat if we have a couple of testers: If you know of any one who could help on these, please join the lubuntu-qa team, so far it looks still possible. The beta 1's are at the usual place https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 The dailies, as always are spilt between Desktop and alternate. If you need more information on testing but think you do not know how to do so, please do reply - Honest, we do not bite from any of the testing teams. It is frequently that the new comers say something is wrong the rest of us go Dho!, who did we miss that one? Please do not see my request to UK list as any attempt to favour one flavour of *buntu over an other. Each flavour has an important section in our family. Thanks, Phill. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu [2] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/204/builds [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements I have an old PC or two I will have a look tomorrow. downloading lubuntu b1 alt torrent now -- alan cocks I have an old laptop but probably around 256 ram maybe even a 512. Problem i had in the past was the screen resolution never matched and since the taskbar was on the bottom i could not see it. Had to do some xrandr thing that i never understood but worked. Built-in wifi and pcmcia wifi (SMC) did not work in the past either (this was 2 years ago). I'll give it a go. If it is useful. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] In case anybody finds use for it C4CAD
Hi all; Some time ago I put together a document about a possibility for non computer engineers using FLOSS. Reading it again I find it very naive and overall bad. But just in case any of you think it as a good idea and/or want to add to it. pdf document: http://ubuntuone.com/1s6KeVxOy5Gbd6yJWMByHq original TeX document: http://ubuntuone.com/4Ekz0LchE5vDyMbdPfaRCg -- Sent from my Ubuntu desktop -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rules of engagement or etiquette?
On 29/02/12 21:21, alan c wrote: On 29/02/12 18:30, Andres Muniz wrote: Liam said: Not yet, no. It's not yet in beta. It's too soon. i mean unity 11.10. This person is using 10.04 (LTS) I'd plug the offending machine into the network with a cable and do a full update. If that still does not resolve the problem, try one of the newer kernels. how do i try a new kernel in ubuntu 10.04? I thought it was updated automatically. It should be updated automatically, and in a distance support situation I would be pretty reluctant to run another kernel. It is possible that the machine has not been fully updated, or that an update has got screwed. This happened a number of times with a friend of mine I help, I guess because the internet connection at the time was flakey and I think the machine would have got switched off regardless and maybe not recovered properly. I am still using 10.04 (although also running 11.10 unity, and 12.04 alpha) and all of my novice friends are likewise running 10.04 (LTS). This means I have time to catch up with Unity , which I quite like, and also it gives unity more time to get slick, which it is certainly doing as seen in my 12.04 alpha installation. My intention is to let my 'users' know that a change in look and feel is coming, and I have suggested to them that an update somewhere mid year would be a good thing. I will spend time with each of them to ensure they are settled with it then. Exceptions are my wife, who as a non tech user instantly demanded the cool new look on her cool looking meenee laptop (!) (which came with pre installed 10.10 I think). I am still holding off another friend who wanted the cool new look when the beta of 11.04 was seen in passing! I am sure the end users will be happy and find stuff simpler than they do now, and I will have no need to keep talking about which menu things are in. But as an 'admin' I will need to be just a bit more conversant with dancing around in unity than I am now. Not much more but still more. I like Unity and I am looking forward to using it all the time, but I want to do that only when my novice friends are using the same as myself. It is easier to support them that way, and I am busy anyway. Thanks for that! good advice! -- Sent from my Ubuntu desktop -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rules of engagement or etiquette?
Liam. You are great, I almost feel bad that I'm going to get most of the credit. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rules of engagement or etiquette?
Liam said: Not yet, no. It's not yet in beta. It's too soon. i mean unity 11.10. This person is using 10.04 (LTS) I'd plug the offending machine into the network with a cable and do a full update. If that still does not resolve the problem, try one of the newer kernels. how do i try a new kernel in ubuntu 10.04? I thought it was updated automatically. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.
There is a problem of language and discoverability in Unity which is making it difficult for people to help each other by explaining their problems and solutions in the language that Mr Shuttleworth wishes us to adopt. The bar on the left is apparently called Launcher, but that name does not reveal itself on screen at all, no matter how you hover or click. When you open software centre a new app it asks you: do you want to add to launcher? Also rightclicking says: add to launcher or remove from launcher. the user has to work out how to access it, which, you've guessed it, involves navigating from the launcher to the dash and typing 'help', by which time, the user has grasped the basics. Agreed, used to be the blue question mark by default. I installed a custom ROM on my Android phone today, which took me through the Android first-run experience for the first time in ages. On the home screen was a carousel of 8 basic tips for flying the UI, with the final tip being how to hide the tips. With 12.04LTS on the way we desperately need to consider the different experiences and needs of first time users and users who upgrade, to ensure that every user who sees Unity for the first time gets to see some sort of Unity primer like this. At a minimum we need yelp in the launcher by default for new user profiles (if it isn't already). Crucially for the LTS we need a transitional package or something that detects an upgrade from an Ubuntu version that didn't have Unity, and ensures that yelp is inserted into the launcher for upgraders too. windows xp had this. I used it once and it even went through things like need of defragmentation. Good thing ubuntu does not need these complex concepts. I have to upgrade my parents' machine from the last LTS soon, and I'm dreading it, not because I think that Unity isn't fit for purpose, or easy enough to use, but because Canonical have not done enough work on the documentation to support users through changes which in many cases they'd rather not have to make. I just say press the windows key and type what you want: since it will start guessing with the first letter tell them to look at the screen. Seems to work OK. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Droid meets human
Just would like to congratulate ubuntu: just saw the android ubuntu desktop at ubuntu.com I did not see that coming. Toguether with ubuntu tv makes my future phone and future tv easy to choose! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] 12.04 live usb will not boot
Tried today's build and it will not load. Anybody else having same problem? Tried on netbook aspire one and it simply sits as if loading bios. Tried on desktop and it just jumps to hdd grub.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 11.10
- Mensaje original - If it is only Firefox and Thunderbird affected, check the settings of those applications for stray proxy settings etc. Whilst I don't see how such peculiar settings could have come into force, they could have done, and my advice is to check the network settings in Firefox/Thunderbird preferences. Regards, John Oliver not an expert here: When I tried ubuntu at work i had the same problem: each of the programs had to connect through the company proxy. Something like wgate.bla.co.uk with port 1234. I had to ask my IT team. It is the same settings as if you would want your mobile phone to recieve work email. So they should be ok with giving it to you. One way to find out without asking is to check your firefox preferences in windows and use the same for ubuntu firefox and thunderbird. As said below start with wired connection first. I do not know why this is, but it seems to be the same with fedora I've been told: some systems detect the proxy settings for some programs but do not comunicate it to the rest.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Xfce Menus
- Mensaje original - Hi However, there is one setting I have been unable to modify - the foreground and background colours of the menus. No matter what colours I use on the task bar, the menus are always black text on a white background. I have seen ready-made themes where this is not hi, this might be a bit basic but is all I know. When i was with xubuntu i had to log out and in again to change the backgroud.probably there is a clever cli command.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Global Jam 2nd-4th March
Alan said: keen to go through and document and perhaps fix a bit once more the installation process with Orca, if anyone else has suggestions of things does this have to do with what trisquel did with their distro? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [virgin media] double broadband
Hello all, just in case it is of interest. I am a virjin media costumer with 5mb broadband (good enough for me). I just had a call home offering the double up for free. But the offer is only if you upgrade or are using their 30 meg package. 5 is enough for me but 60 meg is very tempting. But after a long conversation i had to decline: a) it involves changing modem to a new home hub that they claim to be compatible with linux. (Risky as i did not check details and did not sound convincing) B) you would get home security that is not compatible with linux c) you would get 10gb of online storage that is not compatible with linux. I really do not need any of it but i still felt left out. I have been a costumer since 2006 (with telewest). So after the coversation I requested for feedback to be submitted so that we (linux users) could have support in future. If i could kindly ask to do the same if you are offered that would be great. They did offer a samsung galaxy ace with enough minutes, text and megs for £15 a month. Not a very double rainbow offer as it could have been. Regards, Andres. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [virgin media] double broadband
If you’re currently on up to 10Mb, up to 30Mb or up to 50Mb broadband, we’ll double your speed. If you’re on up to 20Mb you’ll be tripled. And for those on Broadband 100, we’ll be boosting you up to a mighty 120Mb – a new benchmark as the UK’s fastest widely available broadband. I seem to be in up to 5Mb. That is why they made a list of ifs and did not say: all our broad band customers I agree there are plenty alternatives for online storage (but since i am paying for vstuff...) and we do not really need internet security packages in a similar degree that windows does. But would like linux to be taken into account : i had to spell out linux to the salesperson. At the end he thanked me for the added knowledge. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Gov.uk [news]
http://radar.oreilly.com/2012/01/with-govuk-british-government.html the goverment uses ubuntu servers. Congrats! Opensource seems to be gaining ground. Congrats! - Mensaje original - Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-uk-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tomboy alternative
what is the best program to use for simple text files on android, i use conboy on maemo: works like gnote but with capability to sync to ubuntu's tomboy note using ubuntu one. Do not own an android but maybe someone ported it. I really like it loads. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu one and google +
So in my opinion we should be where people are. People most definitely are on G+, whether you are or not. I'm in as well. Thanks for views-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
