[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-05-16 Thread RONALD LAW
Hi Sigrid,

Having tried around, but found it tricky to download the program of Open
Office 3; I decided to pop out to a shop and bought ' Beginning OpenOffice 3
from Novice to Professional' and it looks good *ONCE YOU HAVE SUCCEEDED IN
DOWNLOADING THE THE PROGRAMME!*
*
*
Now I shall unload what I started with, and will begin again.  I have also
converted some of my Templates to rich template format (rtf) in hope they'll
work when Open Office opens its arms to me.

As ever - Ron.

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Sigrid Carrera 
sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hello Ronald,

 On Fri, 13 May 2011 02:13:59 +0100
 RONALD LAW ronl...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hallo Sigrid,
 
  Oh dear, I have a problem.  Using OpenOffice.org.3.3 - Installation
 Wizard.
I got this message:
  Error 1311. Source file not found.
 
  C:\users\Ron\Desktop\OpenOffice.org3.3(en-GB)
 
  Installation Files\openofficeorg1.cab.
 
  Very that the file exists and that you can access it.
 
  Retry  Cancel.
 
  But none of this worked.
 
  Should I remove what I have received and start again.
 
  I am crying into my soup!   HELP!!

 I am not a well versed Windows user (I run Linux as my operating system),
 so I'm not sure what to suggest.

 I think, I would delete your first download and redownload the file again,
 to see if this changes something.

 I did a quick search for you on the OpenOffice.org website and I found a
 forum entry asking about the same error message.
 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15t=4853
 Maybe you can try to follow the steps that are mentioned in this thread.

 I am also forwarding this mail to the users-list, so that other users with
 more experience on Windows can try to help. Please check the archive for
 possible responses. (In my experience most people just click on reply, so
 that replies go only to the list, but not to the unsubscribed poster). You
 can find the maillist archive here:
 http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/users/archive

 I hope, that I was of some help for you.

 Sigrid

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-05-13 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hello Ronald, 

On Fri, 13 May 2011 02:13:59 +0100
RONALD LAW ronl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hallo Sigrid,
 
 Oh dear, I have a problem.  Using OpenOffice.org.3.3 - Installation Wizard.
   I got this message:
 Error 1311. Source file not found.
 
 C:\users\Ron\Desktop\OpenOffice.org3.3(en-GB)
 
 Installation Files\openofficeorg1.cab.
 
 Very that the file exists and that you can access it.
 
 Retry  Cancel.
 
 But none of this worked.
 
 Should I remove what I have received and start again.
 
 I am crying into my soup!   HELP!!

I am not a well versed Windows user (I run Linux as my operating system), so 
I'm not sure what to suggest. 

I think, I would delete your first download and redownload the file again, to 
see if this changes something. 

I did a quick search for you on the OpenOffice.org website and I found a forum 
entry asking about the same error message. 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15t=4853
Maybe you can try to follow the steps that are mentioned in this thread. 

I am also forwarding this mail to the users-list, so that other users with more 
experience on Windows can try to help. Please check the archive for possible 
responses. (In my experience most people just click on reply, so that replies 
go only to the list, but not to the unsubscribed poster). You can find the 
maillist archive here: 
http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/users/archive

I hope, that I was of some help for you. 

Sigrid
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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-05-12 Thread PJH
The basic OpenOffice.org does not support Microsoft Works, so you should
convert a .wps file to a file compatible with OpenOffice.org. The
following list provides ways to convert .wps files to compatible
OpenOffice.org files:

If you have Microsoft Works, open the .wps file in Microsoft Works
and resave it as rich text format (.rtf) file.
Use Microsoft Word, resave it as .doc file.
Use an online converter service such as Zamzar.
Use any of these OpenOffice.org variants which include libwps (see
note below): OxygenOffice Professional, NeoOffice, Ubuntu, Your Office
Suite, LibreOffice, or any other variant based on ooo-build
Use the libwps command-line wps2html or wps2sxw converters.
(OpenOffice.org can open either .html or .sxw.)

RONALD LAW has written on 5/11/2011 1:14 AM:
 Dear Reader,
 
 I have just joined OPEN OFFICE, and at present I use Microsoft Works for
 windows as word processor, spreadsheet and database.
 
 How can I get Open Office to work with these, including opening them. �I
 see one can do all that stuff with Microsoft Office, but I found that
 too vast an undertaking to use at age 83, and for my relatively simple
 needs.
 
 Thank you for your help, and as an old walker over hills, I look
 forwards to opening your map!
 
 Yours sincerely,
 
 Ron Law



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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-05-11 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hello Ronald, 

On Wed, 11 May 2011 06:14:42 +0100
RONALD LAW ronl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Reader,
 
 I have just joined OPEN OFFICE, and at present I use Microsoft Works for
 windows as word processor, spreadsheet and database.

Great! 

 How can I get Open Office to work with these, including opening them.  I see
 one can do all that stuff with Microsoft Office, but I found that too vast
 an undertaking to use at age 83, and for my relatively simple needs.

That is impressive! 
Have you downloaded the program already? If not, you can get it here: 
http://www.openoffice.org/ and click on I want to download OpenOffice.org. 
The following site will offer you the version that is appropriate for your 
operating system. Click on Download now and the download will start 
immediately. 

Once you've downloaded the software, do a double click on the file and the 
installer will start. It will first extract the files into a folder that you 
can specify and automatically continue to install the software. 

Once this is done, you should have an entry in your start menu labeled 
OpenOffice.org and you can click on this to start the program. If you need 
more help, don't hesitate to come back and ask again here on the list. 
 
 Thank you for your help, and as an old walker over hills, I look forwards to
 opening your map!

You're welcome!

Best regards, 
Sigrid
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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-05-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:24:20PM +0200, Sigrid Carrera wrote:
 Hello Ronald, 
 
 On Wed, 11 May 2011 06:14:42 +0100
 RONALD LAW ronl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear Reader,
  
  I have just joined OPEN OFFICE, and at present I use Microsoft Works for
  windows as word processor, spreadsheet and database.
 
 Great! 
 
  How can I get Open Office to work with these, including opening them.  I see
  one can do all that stuff with Microsoft Office, but I found that too vast
  an undertaking to use at age 83, and for my relatively simple needs.
 
 That is impressive! 
 Have you downloaded the program already? If not, you can get it here: 
 http://www.openoffice.org/ and click on I want to download OpenOffice.org. 
 The following site will offer you the version that is appropriate for your 
 operating system. Click on Download now and the download will start 
 immediately. 
 
 Once you've downloaded the software, do a double click on the file and the 
 installer will start. It will first extract the files into a folder that you 
 can specify and automatically continue to install the software. 
 
 Once this is done, you should have an entry in your start menu labeled 
 OpenOffice.org and you can click on this to start the program. If you need 
 more help, don't hesitate to come back and ask again here on the list. 

UUhhh...I believe the OP asked how to get OOo to work with MS Works
files, not how to obtain and install it. I'm using 3.2. Does 3.3 handle
these files automatically or is there a plugin?

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-03-27 Thread James Knott

ROWENA NEWBERRY wrote:
I have a desktop icon for Openoffice installation files, have done the 
installation wizard, but don't know how to access the actual 
programmes, I just get lists and lists of file, what else do I need to do?

I completed the survey.
I assume you're running Windows.  If it installed properly, you should 
have a folder in your Start menu that contains icons for the various 
components (Writer, Calc, etc.).  You can use those icons to start 
whatever application you wish.  Also, if you have some document already, 
just double click on it to start the appropriate application.


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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-03-27 Thread James Knott
I forgot to mention, you should check your computer clock.  It appears 
you sent your message on Feb. 11, 2008.



ROWENA NEWBERRY wrote:

I have a desktop icon for Openoffice installation files, have done the
installation wizard, but don't know how to access the actual
programmes, I just get lists and lists of file, what else do I need to do?
I completed the survey.
I assume you're running Windows.  If it installed properly, you should 
have a folder in your Start menu that contains icons for the various 
components (Writer, Calc, etc.).  You can use those icons to start 
whatever application you wish.  Also, if you have some document already, 
just double click on it to start the appropriate application.


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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-03-27 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/11/2008 4:04 PM, ROWENA NEWBERRY wrote:
I have a desktop icon for Openoffice installation files, have done the installation wizard, but 
don't know how to access the actual programmes, I just get lists and lists of file, what else do I 
need to do?

I completed the survey.


[Rowena (rowenanewbe...@btinternet.com) is not subscribed and will probably not see any responses 
unless directly copied.]


First, it would be good to set your computer clock -- it's more than three 
years out of date!

If you have run the installation wizard, you should have a number of ways to access the programs. If 
you are using a Windows system, for example, you should have at least a folder in your Start menu 
that conatins icons for the various components, like Writer and Calc. Also, depending on what you 
did during installation, you may have a icon for the OOo Quickstarter in your system tray (bottom 
right of your screen) and/or a desktop icon for the applications, in addition to the one for the 
downloaded installer file.


If this doesn't get you going, please tell us what operating system and version you are using, what 
version of OOo you downloaded, and where you got the downloaded file if it wasn't www.openoffice.org 
or one of its official mirrors. In addition, if you changed anything from the defaults during 
installation, what changes did you make?

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-03-13 Thread Paul
2011/3/6 Maurice Mercier simau.merc...@free.fr

 Bonjour,je ne peux plus rien ouvrir avec OpenOffice.org,
 pourquoi,merci de me répondre


Vous n'avez pas fourni suffisamment d'informations pour nous de vous aider.
Peut-être qu'il serait plus facile pour vous d'en discuter en français à l'
adresse suivante:
http://fr.openoffice.org/

Merci,
/ paul
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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-03-09 Thread john d. herron

Ceci est une liste pour usagers de langue anglaise.
Pour avoir de l'aide en français, tu trouves le forum sur 
_fr.openoffice.org_


Marcel says he has been using OO for more than one year.
For three days ago he's been unable to open anything, and when he tries 
to re-install he gets a message

/impossible, please close OpenOffice and make sure that.../  etc.
He's a layman and not proficient  in tech lingo. Requests help in 
recovering the functionality of OO.

Thanks even now.



On 03/04/2011 04:55 PM, Maurice Mercier wrote:
Bonjour ,je suis utilisateur de OpenOffice Org depuis plus d'un 
an,très utile pour ouvrir ;pièces jointes,diaporama, documents etc...
   Depuis trois jours,je ne peux plus rien ouvrir,et quand j'essaye de 
réinstaller,j'ai le message :impossible ,veuillez fermer Open Office 
et vous assurer etc..j'ai tout essayer...mais je suis profane 
et sans vocabulaire technique. pouvez vous m'aider à retrouver la 
fonctionnalité de OpenOffice ?

Merci d'avance. S.Mercier



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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-03-09 Thread Barbara Duprey
The most likely cause here is that there is an old soffice.bin process running on his (presumably) 
Windows system. A restart should allow the files to open normally, or he can use the Task Manager 
(whatever that is in French) to stop any soffice.bin process that shows as active. That will also 
stop any associated soffice.exe processes. Reinstalling should not be needed. Would you copy him, 
please? I don't have his address handy. Thanks!


This problem sometimes occurs when something goes wrong that causes OOo not to 
end normally.

On 3/9/2011 10:44 AM, john d. herron wrote:

Ceci est une liste pour usagers de langue anglaise.
Pour avoir de l'aide en français, tu trouves le forum sur _fr.openoffice.org_

Marcel says he has been using OO for more than one year.
For three days ago he's been unable to open anything, and when he tries to re-install he gets a 
message

/impossible, please close OpenOffice and make sure that.../  etc.
He's a layman and not proficient  in tech lingo. Requests help in recovering 
the functionality of OO.
Thanks even now.



On 03/04/2011 04:55 PM, Maurice Mercier wrote:
Bonjour ,je suis utilisateur de OpenOffice Org depuis plus d'un an,très utile pour ouvrir ;pièces 
jointes,diaporama, documents etc...
   Depuis trois jours,je ne peux plus rien ouvrir,et quand j'essaye de réinstaller,j'ai le 
message :impossible ,veuillez fermer Open Office et vous assurer etc..j'ai tout 
essayer...mais je suis profane et sans vocabulaire technique. pouvez vous m'aider à retrouver 
la fonctionnalité de OpenOffice ?

Merci d'avance. S.Mercier




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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-03-07 Thread Tom Bell

On 3/4/2011 10:55 AM, Maurice Mercier wrote:
Bonjour ,je suis utilisateur de OpenOffice Org depuis plus d'un 
an,très utile pour ouvrir ;pièces jointes,diaporama, documents etc...
   Depuis trois jours,je ne peux plus rien ouvrir,et quand j'essaye de 
réinstaller,j'ai le message :impossible ,veuillez fermer Open Office 
et vous assurer etc..j'ai tout essayer...mais je suis profane 
et sans vocabulaire technique. pouvez vous m'aider à retrouver la 
fonctionnalité de OpenOffice ?

Merci d'avance. S.Mercier


http://user.services.openoffice.org/fr/forum/

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[users] Re: [moderated] Error 126

2011-03-03 Thread NoOp
On 03/02/2011 01:39 AM, Mike Scott wrote:
 On 21/02/11 13:36, PAUL LANG wrote:
 error 126 Cannot load library LXBZPRP.DLL (3.3)
 New installation of Version 3.3 is displaying this error in Calc and writer.
 Any advice?
 PL
 
 I looked on google, which came up with
 http://www.spydig.com/file-diagnosis/LXBZPRP-DLL.html
 saying The LXBZPRP.DLL file is a malicious file related to spyware.

I _think_ that should be LXBCPRP.DLL:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=openoffice+%2BLXBCPRP.DLLbtnG=Search

http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115210
printing (CTRL+P) error 126, can not load library lxbcprp.dll, using
defaults

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[users] Re: [moderated] Error 126

2011-03-02 Thread Mike Scott

On 21/02/11 13:36, PAUL LANG wrote:

error 126 Cannot load library LXBZPRP.DLL (3.3)
New installation of Version 3.3 is displaying this error in Calc and writer.
Any advice?
PL


I looked on google, which came up with
http://www.spydig.com/file-diagnosis/LXBZPRP-DLL.html
saying The LXBZPRP.DLL file is a malicious file related to spyware.

Whether that's true or not is another matter but it might be worth 
doing a thorough scan for malware. (And I'd avoid theirs - use something 
well-known!)


FWIW my XP/SP2 system doesn't seem to have that file under /windows. 
(IIRC that's got OOo 3.0 on it, but as I'm dual-booted into ubuntu 
presently, I can't check)


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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-01-30 Thread jeff g.

On 01/28/2011 12:55 PM, bobalethak...@gmail.com wrote:

I just upgraded from 3.2 to 3.3. When I attempt to use Office Writer it
will let me start then freeze and say, Not Responding. What can I do
short of starting all over? Please respond. Bob


firewall?


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2011-01-30 Thread James Knott

jeff g. wrote:

On 01/28/2011 12:55 PM, bobalethak...@gmail.com wrote:

I just upgraded from 3.2 to 3.3. When I attempt to use Office Writer it
will let me start then freeze and say, Not Responding. What can I do
short of starting all over? Please respond. Bob


firewall? 


What would the firewall have to do with this?  For some reason the app 
is locking up and failing to respond to the OS.  It has nothing to do 
with any network access.




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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-01-30 Thread jeff g.

On 01/30/2011 06:41 AM, James Knott wrote:

jeff g. wrote:

On 01/28/2011 12:55 PM, bobalethak...@gmail.com wrote:

I just upgraded from 3.2 to 3.3. When I attempt to use Office Writer it
will let me start then freeze and say, Not Responding. What can I do
short of starting all over? Please respond. Bob


firewall?


What would the firewall have to do with this? For some reason the app is
locking up and failing to respond to the OS. It has nothing to do with
any network access.


I put a question mark in there - it was just a stab.

Since an upgrade was just done, I was thinking OO might phone home for 
some non-obvious reason - software does do that occasionally - and OO 
has internet functions.




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Re: [users] OT: Sending Email on Sundays (was [users] Re: [moderated])

2010-11-04 Thread James Knott

Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 03/11/2010 14:54, James Knott wrote:
Harold, you might want to check your computer clock.  It appears you 
sent this message on Sunday.  One thing I recommend is to configure 
computers to use NTP, which sets the clock very accurately.



Errm. Yes, I did send it on Sunday. At about twenty to eight in the 
evening my time. Why do you feel it necessary to comment or to think 
that my computer clock may be wrong? I use NIST's time server.



My apologies.  I was surprise to see email that took 3 days to arrive.  
It's almost as though you sent it via the post office.  ;-)


Generally, when there's a significant discrepancy between post and 
arrival times, it's due to a mis-configured clock.


According to the message headers, you sent it on Oct 31 @ 14:35and was 
received by the list on Nov 3 @ 19:37 or 3 days and 5 hours later.  I 
wonder where it was for all that time?  Generally, this list is quick to 
forward messages.


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[users] Re: OT: Sending Email on Sundays (was [users] Re: [moderated])

2010-11-04 Thread Harold Fuchs


James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote in message 
news:4cd2da12.7090...@rogers.com...

Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 03/11/2010 14:54, James Knott wrote:
Harold, you might want to check your computer clock.  It appears you 
sent this message on Sunday.  One thing I recommend is to configure 
computers to use NTP, which sets the clock very accurately.



Errm. Yes, I did send it on Sunday. At about twenty to eight in the 
evening my time. Why do you feel it necessary to comment or to think that 
my computer clock may be wrong? I use NIST's time server.



My apologies.  I was surprise to see email that took 3 days to arrive. 
It's almost as though you sent it via the post office.  ;-)


Generally, when there's a significant discrepancy between post and arrival 
times, it's due to a mis-configured clock.


According to the message headers, you sent it on Oct 31 @ 14:35and was 
received by the list on Nov 3 @ 19:37 or 3 days and 5 hours later.  I 
wonder where it was for all that time?  Generally, this list is quick to 
forward messages.




Yes, I think my ISP must have been playing silly beggars.

Regards, Harold 




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Re: [users] Re: OT: Sending Email on Sundays (was [users] Re: [moderated])

2010-11-04 Thread James Knott

Harold Fuchs wrote:


James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote in message 
news:4cd2da12.7090...@rogers.com...

Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 03/11/2010 14:54, James Knott wrote:
Harold, you might want to check your computer clock.  It appears 
you sent this message on Sunday.  One thing I recommend is to 
configure computers to use NTP, which sets the clock very accurately.



Errm. Yes, I did send it on Sunday. At about twenty to eight in the 
evening my time. Why do you feel it necessary to comment or to think 
that my computer clock may be wrong? I use NIST's time server.



My apologies.  I was surprise to see email that took 3 days to 
arrive. It's almost as though you sent it via the post office.  ;-)


Generally, when there's a significant discrepancy between post and 
arrival times, it's due to a mis-configured clock.


According to the message headers, you sent it on Oct 31 @ 14:35and 
was received by the list on Nov 3 @ 19:37 or 3 days and 5 hours 
later.  I wonder where it was for all that time?  Generally, this 
list is quick to forward messages.




Yes, I think my ISP must have been playing silly beggars.

In this case the round trip from me to you and then receiving your reply 
was about 10 minutes.



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[users] Re: [moderated]

2010-11-03 Thread Harold Fuchs


william lepage william.lepage...@sympatico.ca wrote in message 
news:blu0-smtp91020e4c830c5b583be22bcc...@phx.gbl...

How  do I open ppp power point presentations

I think you mean ppt. You can either associate .ppt files to 
OpenOffice.org after which a double click will invoke Impress, or just right 
click on one of the files in question and choose Open with  The former 
is permanent (till you change the association). The latter needs doing every 
time unless you choose the always open with ... option. Please note that 
strictly speaking this is a Windows question, not an OpenOffice.org 
question. Using File Associations is a fundamental part of using Windows. 
See the Windows Help for more details.


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2010-11-03 Thread James Knott
Harold, you might want to check your computer clock.  It appears you 
sent this message on Sunday.  One thing I recommend is to configure 
computers to use NTP, which sets the clock very accurately.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol


Harold Fuchs wrote:


william lepage william.lepage...@sympatico.ca wrote in message 
news:blu0-smtp91020e4c830c5b583be22bcc...@phx.gbl...

How  do I open ppp power point presentations

I think you mean ppt. You can either associate .ppt files to 
OpenOffice.org after which a double click will invoke Impress, or just 
right click on one of the files in question and choose Open with 
 The former is permanent (till you change the association). The 
latter needs doing every time unless you choose the always open with 
... option. Please note that strictly speaking this is a Windows 
question, not an OpenOffice.org question. Using File Associations is a 
fundamental part of using Windows. See the Windows Help for more details.





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[users] OT: Sending Email on Sundays (was [users] Re: [moderated])

2010-11-03 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 03/11/2010 14:54, James Knott wrote:
Harold, you might want to check your computer clock.  It appears you 
sent this message on Sunday.  One thing I recommend is to configure 
computers to use NTP, which sets the clock very accurately.



Errm. Yes, I did send it on Sunday. At about twenty to eight in the 
evening my time. Why do you feel it necessary to comment or to think 
that my computer clock may be wrong? I use NIST's time server.



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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2010-11-01 Thread Rob Clement

On 01/11/2010 05:39, Russell Butler wrote:

On 31/10/10 21:32, Keith Hartley wrote:

I want to open a microsoft wps file but do not seem to have the right
filter, can you help?

many thanks, Keith


Which version of OpenOffice.org are you using, Keith? and on what
platform (operating system)?

I recently received a .wps file which opened happily in OOo 3.2 on my
Ubuntu machine, but I think this has some of the go-oo developments:
http://go-oo.org/

Russell


Keith

I think you may be using the OOo that we get from Openoffice.org and 
that does not have a way to import wordprocessing files from MS Works


Russell

I think that the Ubuntu version has an extra feature to read these files.

Thanks

Rob

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Re: [users] Re: [moderated] (Opening Microsoft Works file still only with LibreOffice/Go-OO)

2010-11-01 Thread Carlo Strata

Il 01/11/2010 10:25, Rob Clement ha scritto:

On 01/11/2010 05:39, Russell Butler wrote:

On 31/10/10 21:32, Keith Hartley wrote:

I want to open a microsoft wps file but do not seem to have the right
filter, can you help?

many thanks, Keith


Which version of OpenOffice.org are you using, Keith? and on what
platform (operating system)?

I recently received a .wps file which opened happily in OOo 3.2 on my
Ubuntu machine, but I think this has some of the go-oo developments:
http://go-oo.org/

Russell


Keith

I think you may be using the OOo that we get from Openoffice.org and
that does not have a way to import wordprocessing files from MS Works

Russell

I think that the Ubuntu version has an extra feature to read these files.

Thanks

Rob



Yes! Ubuntu OOo is from Go-OO! And in the near future (11.04) from 
LibreOffice (Libò/LO) / The Document Foundation (TDF).


Here you can see, at a glance, what Go-oo has (had) to offer in addition 
to the features you expect in up-stream (vanilla said) OpenOffice.org

http://go-oo.org/discover/

among which you could also find
MS-Works import: Go-oo supports MS-Works files; you can also find there 
e test .wps file

http://go-oo.org/discover/msworks.wps

But now Go-oo has been made obsolete
http://planet.go-oo.org/

by the exciting new LibreOffice project
http://planet.documentfoundation.org/
http://www.documentfoundation.org/
http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/
http://www.libreoffice.org/

LibreOffice is now at 3.3beta2 stage (you could download it for Windows, 
MacOSX, linux) and I just test it to read the above .wps file.


I just test the same .wps file on OOo 3.3rc3 vanilla but it doesn't read 
it (it doesn't understand file type and open the choose filter/file 
type window...)...


So if you want to adopt an application that does read those file 
(Microsoft Works ones) and that is growing now on, I suggest you to 
choose LibreOffice (Libò/LO) that is usable enough despite his beta 
state at the moment (we expect the final one within december 2010).


Finally I suggest you to subscribe these two mailing list at least:
users@openoffice.org
us...@libreoffice.org

you could find the correct instructions respectively here
http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html#general
http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/#lists

If you subscribe you will not be moderated any more.

Hope that help,

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2010-10-31 Thread Russell Butler

On 31/10/10 21:32, Keith Hartley wrote:

I want to open a microsoft wps file but do not seem to have the right
filter, can you help?

many thanks, Keith


Which version of OpenOffice.org are you using, Keith? and on what 
platform (operating system)?


I recently received a .wps file which opened happily in OOo 3.2 on my 
Ubuntu machine, but I think this has some of the go-oo developments: 
http://go-oo.org/


Russell

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2010-08-26 Thread Twayne
In news:20100825213013.owzc29852.fed1rmmtao104.cox@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net,
Norman Henke normhe...@cox.net typed:
 I am perplexed. All I want to do is open some WKS
 spreadsheets so I can use them. I get a display in arabic
 with no menu option to change the  display. All this and 30
 minutes to download everthing after paying $29.95. What
 would be your solution to my problem?

 Norm Henke

Did this poor guy ever get a response from anyone? He seems to have been 
ignored but I hesitate to respond because I don't know fi he's hjacked a 
thread or what.

HTH,

Twayne`




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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2010-08-26 Thread RA Brown

Twayne wrote:

In news:20100825213013.owzc29852.fed1rmmtao104.cox@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net,
Norman Henke normhe...@cox.net typed:

I am perplexed. All I want to do is open some WKS
spreadsheets so I can use them. I get a display in arabic
with no menu option to change the  display. All this and 30
minutes to download everthing after paying $29.95. What
would be your solution to my problem?

Norm Henke


Did this poor guy ever get a response from anyone? He seems to have been 
ignored but I hesitate to respond because I don't know fi he's hjacked a 
thread or what.


HTH,

Twayne`



Replies have been made, though I have not seen any thing from the OP to 
know if any thing is getting through.  He did not hijack the thread, 
just did not put in a subject, which did not help. :(


Andy


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2010-08-23 Thread M Henri Day
 2010/8/23 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net

 On 08/22/2010 02:52 PM, M Henri Day wrote:
  2010/8/20 Sam spalazz...@si.rr.com
 
  Good day folks,
 
  I have recently downloaded openoffice after seeing an artilcle while
  looking at some stories in Yahoo.
 
  I am not very computer literate, not in the technical sense.
 
  My main reason for downloading the software was to be able to open some
  powerpoint files that a friend sends. I have an old version of a suite
 of
  products from the makers of wordperfect and cannot open many of
 Microsoft
  office products.
 
  If you could tell me how to utilize the applications, I would be very
  appreciative.
 
  Thank you,
  Sam Palazzolo
 
 
  Sam, you might find the tutorials available here (
  http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/) of help. If not, other list
 members
  will certainly be able to provide other suggestions
 
  Henri
 

 Henri,

 Sam can't hear you - the [moderated] tag means that he's unsubscribed,
 so you'll need to CC him.

 Gary


Thanks, Gary - I really should have been more observant ! In any event, I've
now forwarded my message to Sam

Henri


[users] Re: [moderated]

2010-08-22 Thread NoOp
On 08/22/2010 02:52 PM, M Henri Day wrote:
 2010/8/20 Sam spalazz...@si.rr.com
 
 Good day folks,

 I have recently downloaded openoffice after seeing an artilcle while
 looking at some stories in Yahoo.

 I am not very computer literate, not in the technical sense.

 My main reason for downloading the software was to be able to open some
 powerpoint files that a friend sends. I have an old version of a suite of
 products from the makers of wordperfect and cannot open many of Microsoft
 office products.

 If you could tell me how to utilize the applications, I would be very
 appreciative.

 Thank you,
 Sam Palazzolo

 
 Sam, you might find the tutorials available here (
 http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/) of help. If not, other list members
 will certainly be able to provide other suggestions
 
 Henri
 

Henri,

Sam can't hear you - the [moderated] tag means that he's unsubscribed,
so you'll need to CC him.

Gary



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[users] Re: [moderated]how do i spell check

2010-06-21 Thread Gordon


denis mannell dmannel...@bigpond.com wrote in message 
news:663f67712cc544e58f327cc73dd7f...@vehicle...

I am a new user , pIease advise how i do i add spell checker to my email.

thanks dmannell 39


Depends on what application you are using for email... 




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[users] Re: [moderated]

2010-06-07 Thread Mark C. Miller

On 06/06/2010 06:26 PM, jamescarson wrote:

Does it support a compatible FrontPage or similar? for my web editing. JJC


There's a nice little program call KompoZer.  I know if from Ubuntu, but 
I seem to remember there is also a windows version.

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2010-06-07 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2010/06/07 5:12 PM  Mark C. Miller wrote concerning  Re: [moderated]:

On 06/06/2010 06:26 PM, jamescarson wrote:
Does it support a compatible FrontPage or similar? for my web 
editing. JJC


There's a nice little program call KompoZer.  I know if from Ubuntu, 
but I seem to remember there is also a windows version.


Available at http://www.kompozer.net/
There is also a version for Macs

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2010-04-25 Thread william drescher

On 4/23/2010 4:42 PM, FISHER II, WILLIAM wrote:

Hi all,



We are a school District and have the same economic woes as everyone
else.  We need to trim some of the fat from our licensing of

another office product.  To satisfy the licensing coordinator for our
school district, what copy of a license can I show her to satisfy the
licensing requirements

to load OpenOffice 3.2 to 37 school sites.



Can anyone help me in this endeavor?




 http://www.openoffice.org/license.html

bill


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[users] Re: [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org

2010-04-11 Thread Bob Long

NoOp wrote,


Interestingly enough, on a WinXP machine that I just upgraded the Sun
(oragle) java on, the splash screen during the upgrade provides an ad
for OOo. On it is a bullet point about 'import and export pdf's with a
single click. Forgot to take a screenshot, but it's apparent that
Sun/oragle is promoting this as a feature for OOo. Anyone else seen this?


Yes. I was upgrading a Vista machine. I installed JRE 6 Update 18 and 
the splash mentioned both import and export. Then the system prompted 
for an update to Update 19. It didn't actually work (it complained of 
needing elevation).


So I went back to the Oracle Web site and there Update 19 was available. 
This was all in the space of half an hour.


So I installed Update 19 from scratch and this time the splash screen 
omitted reference to PDF import.


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[users] Re: [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org

2010-04-08 Thread NoOp
On 04/07/2010 05:58 AM, Clayton wrote:
 On 07-Apr-10 14:43, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 Yes, there should be some free [and easy] methods of converting PDF back
 to an editable document. MS Word 2000/2003 .doc format would be OK
 since OOo reads/writes that format very well, and MS users will have
 no troubles excepting it as well. It would be nice to see converters go
 directly to ODF formats instead of MS ones, since ODF is the
 International default, while MS is just a want-to-be.
 
 In a sense, what you're wishing for already exists.
 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport is not just 
 for importing PDF into Draw fro minor editing.  This extension also adds 
 in the Hybrid PDF functionality.
 
 A hybrid PDF/ODF file is a PDF file that contains an embedded ODF 
 source file. Hybrid PDF/ODF files will be opened in OpenOffice.org as an 
 ODF file without any layout changes.
 
 So, if you use OpenOffice.org plus this extension, and create Hybrid 
 PDFs, you will be able to open the PDF and edit the embedded ODF file 
 and export it again as a Hybrid PDF.
 
 C.

Interestingly enough, on a WinXP machine that I just upgraded the Sun
(oragle) java on, the splash screen during the upgrade provides an ad
for OOo. On it is a bullet point about 'import and export pdf's with a
single click. Forgot to take a screenshot, but it's apparent that
Sun/oragle is promoting this as a feature for OOo. Anyone else seen this?



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[users] Re: [moderated] Database dosen't open

2009-11-29 Thread Andreas Saeger

Joana Villas-Boas wrote:

I just installed Open Office for the first time. I did a custom instalation
because I just want to use the Database application. When I clic the
openoffie Icon I can’t open the Dabase application! Nothing happends. I
tried registering the product, reparing, unistalling, installing again, in a
different computer and it is always the same! Am I missing something

 


Thanks

 


Joana

 


Joana Villas-Boas

Programação, Consultoria e Formação Informática

Rua José Falcão, 4-2º 


2780-334 OEIRAS

Tlm: + 351 91 451 13 40

Tel:  + 351 21 441 64 27

 



OpenOffice.org has no database application. OpenOffice.org is one large 
application to open office documents. The same program loads text 
documents, spreasheets, presentations, vector graphics.
The Base component provides a set of built-in drivers as well as 
ODBC/JDBC connectivity in order to connect office documents with 
database content. Base is nothing without office documents.
As an additional (not very useful) gimmick, OpenOffice.org installs a 
Java driven database engine http://hsqldb.org and wraps a newly created 
HSQL-database into a jar archive which looks like single-user database 
in a kind of document. Forms and Reports are Writer documents embedded 
in the same jar as the configuration.



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[users] Re: [moderated] Download Problem

2009-11-08 Thread NoOp
On 11/07/2009 06:58 AM, Lisa McCormack wrote:
 I've tried several times to download Open Office. It downloads but then 
 aborts with the message Windows has found a problem with this file. 
 Name OOo_3.1.1_win32Intel_install_wJRE-en-US.exe. Publisher: Unknown 
 Publisher. This file was blocked because it does not have a valid 
 digital signature that verifies its publisher.
 
 What should I do?

The same will occur if you update a Microsoft Works program - see:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933744
[Error message when you click Office Update in Works on a Windows
Vista-based computer: ident.cab file does not have a valid digital
signature - user cannot proceed]
and
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/What-is-User-Account-Control

You'll need to log in and install using an administrator account.
Please see:
http://download.openoffice.org/common/instructions.html
for OpenOffice.org installation instructions.

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[users] Re: [moderated] Change case

2009-10-10 Thread John King
Monty Armstrong wrote:

 Hi
 
 As a tech writer I find the toggle Shift-F3 in Word a wonderful tool and
 the OO equivalent Alt O C L or U with no option for initial Caps (first
 letter Upper, rest lower) a major drawback to an otherwise generally
 superior program.
 
 I find Styles in OO a hassle also but using them more (or a better
 tutorial) would fix that problem.
 
 I tend to use Word for most work but always swap to OO for tables and
 whenever word is being obnoxious (therefore several times a day)
 
 Is there a way I can add this Shift-F3 function to OO?  Is it planned for
 the near future as a standard shortcut?
 
 Regards
 
 Monty Armstrong

Monty
The choices you are looking for are in Format - Character - Effects.  You can 
use Tools - Customize - Keyboard to set Shift-F3 to open that dialogue box.

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-09-15 Thread Mark C. Miller
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:06:14 -0400, vendplus wrote:

 I think I have installed Open Office, but I can't be sure. The
 installation was interrupted and I tried to start over (Took about 2
 hrs.) but I don't have any iconsa on my Desktop to open referring me to
 Opal Office Writer, but I still have my Word file.
 
 What can I do?
 
   -Lou Johnson

What operating system are you using/what version?  

Not sure what you mean when you say I still have my Word file.  Are you 
referring to a specific word processing file or do you mean that 
Microsoft Office is still installed (it should be unless you uninstalled 
it first.  Open Office has no impact on already installed programs.

Where were you downloading from.  My search of opal office (at the 
following address:

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?
f=49t=846p=3519hilit=Opal

suggests Opal Office is a scam some outfit is running where they have 
rebranded Open Office.  You should be downloading directly from the Open 
Office site (download.openoffice.org)

Did you get any error messages when you downloaded either time?

regards


mcm



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[users] Re: [moderated]Need English version

2009-07-19 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2009/07/16 4:30 PM  Terri wrote:
Hi. I have recently down loaded Open-Office and it is in Spanish or 
some other Latin language. How do I convert it to English? It looks 
good. I have an Apple  Mac G$ 1.42 with OSX 10.4.11 computer. I do not 
speak Spanish.


Here is a link to download OO.o 3.1.0 in US English for PPC Macs.

http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.1.0rc2_20090424/OOo_3.1.0rc2_20090424_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-06-14 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2009/06/14 6:22 PM  Andy wrote:

timele...@peoplepc.com wrote:

What is the approximate time to download this software?
It will depend on your connection to the internet.  With a cable 
broadband connection it take over 30 minutes.  That is using Firefox 
on an XPsp3 machine.


You have a very slow connection. My last download took 3 minutes (7.5 Mb 
connection).

With a 1.5 Mb connection in the past, it took 18 minutes.


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[users] Re: [moderated] - OOo User Survey

2009-06-08 Thread NoOp
On 06/05/2009 06:08 PM, Ian Darby wrote:
 I have just installed OpenOffice for the first time. I would like to
 complete the Survey, but it is in German, not English.
 
 Regards,
 Enthusiastic new user Ian

Welcome to OpenOffice.org! You've posted to the users@openoffice.org
mailing list. See: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html for
additional information regarding this list (users@openoffice.org).

Regarding the survey:

It does still have a few bugs:
http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/openoffice_org_user_survey_2009

However, you can get to the English pages by:

http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/surveys/index.php?sid=69531lang=en

Click on '[Exit and Clear Survey]
answer OK
Click on 'Restart this Survey'
Click 'next'
and the survey should be in English. If it is not, please post back to
users@openoffice.org - emails to my personal address will be ignored.

Note: if you'd prefer a standard online forum rather than a mailing list
please see:

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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2009-05-07 Thread James Knott
NoOp wrote:
 On 05/06/2009 05:28 PM, Rob Clement wrote:
   
 Maxine and Dennis wrote:
 
  

 HELP! HELP!
 I am suppose to do the church bulletin for this Sunday. My deacon gave 
 me a flash card.  I have downloaded openoffice-I think I have 
 registered.  I can not find how to read this flash card.  I am getting 
 really frustrated. I log in and go to a different subject and it says I 
 am NOT logged in. I don't know whether to delete this download and start 
 over? or do I try to get HELP!
 Maxine
 purdyho...@indytel.com 
   

   
 Maxine

 I assume the flash card is an sd memory card or similar.

 Reading the flash card either requires a slot in your pc or an adaptor 
 to read it.

 When the flash card is in the slot or the adaptor you should be able to 
 use the My Computer in XP or Computer in Vista to view the files on 
 the flash card. The card should show as an extra disk. You can then copy 
 the files from the flash card to the computer.

 If you have any other questions or you are not on Windows please reply 
 to the list and not to me

 Rob
 

 Rob,

 Good catch. I think you may have hit the nail on the head... Perhaps the
 deacon gave her a flash card with OOo on it to install on her computer
 and she's trying to figure out how to install it.
   

The way I read her message was that she had downloaded OOo and perhaps
she was given a bulletin template or example.  However, one thing that's
clear is her message isn't.  ;-)

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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2009-05-07 Thread Rob Clement

James Knott wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 05/06/2009 05:28 PM, Rob Clement wrote:
  

Maxine and Dennis wrote:

 


HELP! HELP!
I am suppose to do the church bulletin for this Sunday. My deacon gave 
me a flash card.  I have downloaded openoffice-I think I have 
registered.  I can not find how to read this flash card.  I am getting 
really frustrated. I log in and go to a different subject and it says I 
am NOT logged in. I don't know whether to delete this download and start 
over? or do I try to get HELP!

Maxine
purdyho...@indytel.com 
  
  

Maxine

I assume the flash card is an sd memory card or similar.

Reading the flash card either requires a slot in your pc or an adaptor 
to read it.


When the flash card is in the slot or the adaptor you should be able to 
use the My Computer in XP or Computer in Vista to view the files on 
the flash card. The card should show as an extra disk. You can then copy 
the files from the flash card to the computer.


If you have any other questions or you are not on Windows please reply 
to the list and not to me


Rob


Rob,

Good catch. I think you may have hit the nail on the head... Perhaps the
deacon gave her a flash card with OOo on it to install on her computer
and she's trying to figure out how to install it.
  


The way I read her message was that she had downloaded OOo and perhaps
she was given a bulletin template or example.  However, one thing that's
clear is her message isn't.  ;-)


James

when I sent the original reply I cc'd her and she thanked me for it. I 
think explaining how to connect the flash memory to her computer was her 
original problem. If she has said nothing by tomorrow I will try and 
follow her up again.


Rob

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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2009-05-07 Thread Barbara Duprey

Rob Clement wrote:

James Knott wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 05/06/2009 05:28 PM, Rob Clement wrote:
 

Maxine and Dennis wrote:
   
 


HELP! HELP!
I am suppose to do the church bulletin for this Sunday. My deacon 
gave me a flash card.  I have downloaded openoffice-I think I have 
registered.  I can not find how to read this flash card.  I am 
getting really frustrated. I log in and go to a different subject 
and it says I am NOT logged in. I don't know whether to delete 
this download and start over? or do I try to get HELP!

Maxine
purdyho...@indytel.com   
 

Maxine

I assume the flash card is an sd memory card or similar.

Reading the flash card either requires a slot in your pc or an 
adaptor to read it.


When the flash card is in the slot or the adaptor you should be 
able to use the My Computer in XP or Computer in Vista to view 
the files on the flash card. The card should show as an extra disk. 
You can then copy the files from the flash card to the computer.


If you have any other questions or you are not on Windows please 
reply to the list and not to me


Rob


Rob,

Good catch. I think you may have hit the nail on the head... Perhaps 
the

deacon gave her a flash card with OOo on it to install on her computer
and she's trying to figure out how to install it.
  


The way I read her message was that she had downloaded OOo and perhaps
she was given a bulletin template or example.  However, one thing that's
clear is her message isn't.  ;-)


James

when I sent the original reply I cc'd her and she thanked me for it. I 
think explaining how to connect the flash memory to her computer was 
her original problem. If she has said nothing by tomorrow I will try 
and follow her up again.


Rob


She thanked me, too, and said my post was most helpful. Whatever she 
needs now, I guess we'll hear from her. Clearly she appreciates anybody 
trying to help, which is a good sign. She did say originally I have 
downloaded openoffice-I think I have registered. -- so I think she did 
get OOo from somewhere, but not from the official site. It sounded to me 
as if she'd tried to access something on the flash card with that other 
version and was told she was not logged in, which is not what I'd expect 
from either Windows (for an inaccesssible device) or from vanilla OOo.


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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-05-06 Thread NoOp
On 05/06/2009 09:53 AM, Maxine and Dennis wrote:
 HELP! HELP!
 I am suppose to do the church bulletin for this Sunday. My deacon gave me a
 flash card.  I have downloaded openoffice-I think I have registered.  I can
 not find how to read this flash card.  I am getting really frustrated. I log
 in and go to a different subject and it says I am NOT logged in. I don't
 know whether to delete this download and start over? or do I try to get
 HELP!
 Maxine
 purdyho...@indytel.com  

Purposely not cc'd to the unsubscribed user.

I have to wonder... it's Wednesday (my timezone), the poster has just
downloaded OOo (I think), maybe even managed to install (?), and is
trying to do a church bulletin by Sunday. I've a good amount of patience
in trying to assist new OOo users, but this is one that will take some
added effort/patience from someone else. Anyone willing to give Maxine a
hand?

Gary



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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2009-05-06 Thread Barbara Duprey

NoOp wrote:

On 05/06/2009 09:53 AM, Maxine and Dennis wrote:
  

HELP! HELP!
I am suppose to do the church bulletin for this Sunday. My deacon gave me a
flash card.  I have downloaded openoffice-I think I have registered.  I can
not find how to read this flash card.  I am getting really frustrated. I log
in and go to a different subject and it says I am NOT logged in. I don't
know whether to delete this download and start over? or do I try to get
HELP!
Maxine
purdyho...@indytel.com  



Purposely not cc'd to the unsubscribed user.

I have to wonder... it's Wednesday (my timezone), the poster has just
downloaded OOo (I think), maybe even managed to install (?), and is
trying to do a church bulletin by Sunday. I've a good amount of patience
in trying to assist new OOo users, but this is one that will take some
added effort/patience from someone else. Anyone willing to give Maxine a
hand?

Gary


I'm willing to spend some time with her on this -- we'll see how she 
does with my response to her post.


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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-05-06 Thread NoOp
On 05/06/2009 06:33 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
=
 Purposely not cc'd to the unsubscribed user.

 I have to wonder... it's Wednesday (my timezone), the poster has just
 downloaded OOo (I think), maybe even managed to install (?), and is
 trying to do a church bulletin by Sunday. I've a good amount of patience
 in trying to assist new OOo users, but this is one that will take some
 added effort/patience from someone else. Anyone willing to give Maxine a
 hand?

 Gary
 
 I'm willing to spend some time with her on this -- we'll see how she 
 does with my response to her post.

Thanks Barbara. Hopefully she'll get the bulletin completed and can brag
to all of her flock that OOo saved the day :-)




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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-05-06 Thread NoOp
On 05/06/2009 05:28 PM, Rob Clement wrote:
 Maxine and Dennis wrote:
  
 
 HELP! HELP!
 I am suppose to do the church bulletin for this Sunday. My deacon gave 
 me a flash card.  I have downloaded openoffice-I think I have 
 registered.  I can not find how to read this flash card.  I am getting 
 really frustrated. I log in and go to a different subject and it says I 
 am NOT logged in. I don't know whether to delete this download and start 
 over? or do I try to get HELP!
 Maxine
 purdyho...@indytel.com 

 
 Maxine
 
 I assume the flash card is an sd memory card or similar.
 
 Reading the flash card either requires a slot in your pc or an adaptor 
 to read it.
 
 When the flash card is in the slot or the adaptor you should be able to 
 use the My Computer in XP or Computer in Vista to view the files on 
 the flash card. The card should show as an extra disk. You can then copy 
 the files from the flash card to the computer.
 
 If you have any other questions or you are not on Windows please reply 
 to the list and not to me
 
 Rob

Rob,

Good catch. I think you may have hit the nail on the head... Perhaps the
deacon gave her a flash card with OOo on it to install on her computer
and she's trying to figure out how to install it.




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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-04-20 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2009/04/19 9:25 PM  Brian Barker wrote:

At 15:39 19/04/2009 -0500, Barbara Duprey wrote:
On the home page of www.openoffice.org, click on I want to download 
OpenOffice.org and then (assuming you are using some form of 
Windows) on the Download now! link. (For other systems, and 
additional information, there is another link below that. You then 
would need to find the appropriate Download link in the table it 
provides.)


You seem to think that the web site always offers the Windows version 
by default.  Are you sure?  For what it's worth, I assumed that it 
auto-detects the user's operating system (from information provided by 
the browser) and offers the *appropriate* version.  But I haven't 
tested this.


When you click on I want to download OpenOffice.org on the home page 
of www.openoffice.org it auto-detects the operating system you are 
using. I get the following:


   Download now!
   Start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 for Mac OSX Intel in US English


If this is true, there is a potential snag: a user who downloads the 
product, say, at work or at a friend's or in a library or internet 
cafe but for use at home is in danger of obtaining an inappropriate 
version without any explanation.


Only for people who don't or can't read. Right below the above message is:

   Get more _platforms and languages_,  _order CD-ROM_,  or _P2P downloads
   _

If the user wants a different platform than is auto-detected, they just 
have to click on _'platforms and languages_'.


--
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - 
Edgard Varese



Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2009-04-20 Thread Dave Post

On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:45 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:


On 2009/04/19 9:25 PM  Brian Barker wrote:

At 15:39 19/04/2009 -0500, Barbara Duprey wrote:
On the home page of www.openoffice.org, click on I want to  
download OpenOffice.org and then (assuming you are using some  
form of Windows) on the Download now! link. (For other systems,  
and additional information, there is another link below that. You  
then would need to find the appropriate Download link in the table  
it provides.)


You seem to think that the web site always offers the Windows  
version by default.  Are you sure?  For what it's worth, I assumed  
that it auto-detects the user's operating system (from information  
provided by the browser) and offers the *appropriate* version.  But  
I haven't tested this.


When you click on I want to download OpenOffice.org on the home  
page of www.openoffice.org it auto-detects the operating system you  
are using. I get the following:


  Download now!
  Start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 for Mac OSX Intel in US  
English


This is true; however, clicking that option produces an error message  
because the site doesn't have 3..0.1 for OSX. One is directed then to  
a different page, which gives the impression that 2.4.0 is the latest  
version for OSX. (And it apparently is, as far as official releases  
are concerned, but there are later and better rc versions.) Worse,  
there's no indication of which OSX versions 2.4.0 is compatible with  
(turns out this is 10.4 and 10.5) so, if you're using an earlier  
version, you get a download that won't run on your system and no clue  
where to find one that will. I've been a victim of all these  
oversights and have seen posts here from others.


I reported these problems to the webmaster months ago, yet they remain.

Dave

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-04-20 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2009/04/20 5:50 AM  Dave Post wrote:

On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:45 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
When you click on I want to download OpenOffice.org on the home 
page of www.openoffice.org it auto-detects the operating system you 
are using. I get the following:


  Download now!
  Start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 for Mac OSX Intel in US English


This is true; however, clicking that option produces an error message 
because the site doesn't have 3..0.1 for OSX.


When I click it the download for OO.o 3.0.1 begins.

One is directed then to a different page, which gives the impression 
that 2.4.0 is the latest version for OSX. 


You must be using language and/or operating system for which the Quality 
Assurance process has not been completed.


(And it apparently is, as far as official releases are concerned, but 
there are later and better rc versions.)


The download page only shows versions that have passed the QA process. 
There is a lack of people working on this in some languages and some 
platforms – especially Mac PPCs. Anyone willing to assist should visit 
the QA site. http://qa.openoffice.org http://qa.openoffice.org/


There is a link for the development and RC versions at the bottom of the 
page you are referring to. It says Please test also our OpenOffice.org 
snapshot and release candidates.


Worse, there's no indication of which OSX versions 2.4.0 is compatible 
with (turns out this is 10.4 and 10.5) 


That is what the System Requirements page is for. It seems some people 
do not bother to check. That is the first thing I look at, especially if 
I am using older hardware.


so, if you're using an earlier version, you get a download that won't 
run on your system and no clue where to find one that will. 


If you are using a Mac PPC computer that is true as there is no link to 
the good-day site on the download pages. You only find if you manage to 
fine the Mac porting site

http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/

--
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2009-04-20 Thread Dave Post

On Apr 20, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:


On 2009/04/20 5:50 AM  Dave Post wrote:

On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:45 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
When you click on I want to download OpenOffice.org on the home  
page of www.openoffice.org it auto-detects the operating system  
you are using. I get the following:


 Download now!
 Start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 for Mac OSX Intel in US  
English


This is true; however, clicking that option produces an error  
message because the site doesn't have 3..0.1 for OSX.


When I click it the download for OO.o 3.0.1 begins.

One is directed then to a different page, which gives the  
impression that 2.4.0 is the latest version for OSX.


You must be using language and/or operating system for which the  
Quality Assurance process has not been completed.


Apparently so. I need US English, OSX 10.5.6, PPC. But the process  
starts off saying Download now! Start downloading OpenOffice.org  
3.0.1 for Mac OSX PPC in US English and then gives an error. That's a  
bug.


Worse, there's no indication of which OSX versions 2.4.0 is  
compatible with (turns out this is 10.4 and 10.5)


That is what the System Requirements page is for. It seems some  
people do not bother to check. That is the first thing I look at,  
especially if I am using older hardware.


But there's no link to the Systems Requirements page on the page the  
user is redirected to (http://download.openoffice.org/other.html).  
Furthermore, clicking the link for one's platform starts an immediate  
download instead of going next to a page where one might determine  
that 2.4.0 won't run on pre-10.4 versions of OSX. Both of these  
problems could be corrected merely by adding something like (10.4+)  
to the labels for the OSX columns.


Dave

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[users] Re: [moderated] (UNSUBSCRIBED USER)

2009-04-17 Thread Twayne
Dave Post wrote:
 Note to list: This user is not subscribed.

 On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:

 Mike Holmes wrote:
 I had open office recommended to me by a tech. in the store where I
 bought my laptop.
 I have windows 2000, and I am interested in information on open
 office.org
 all I want to do is e-mail resumes and open attachments e-mailed to
 me, I currently have no software installed, only e-mail capacities.
 any information as to what products and services from open
 office.org which would allow me to e-mail resumes and open
 attachments would be most helpful.
 thank you.

 michael holmes

 OpenOffice.org is a full suite of programs (word processor,
 spreadsheet, presentation, database, and more). If you are actually
 planning on creating and maintaining your resume with it, the Writer
 (word processor) component is very good for creating files and e-
 mailing them (in various formats). And OOo is capable of opening a
 large number of types of files, many of which are no longer
 supported by their original developers, and that could be very
 useful to you in dealing with attachments people send to you.

 OOo is an integrated package, not separate programs, so you
 basically get everything when you download the program from
 www.openoffice.org . The software, documentation, and support are
 all free, with additional materials available elsewhere either free 
 or
 commercially. You can check the website for more information about
 what OOo can do and how. Welcome to the open source community!

 It might be added as an FYI that the suite doesn't include an email
 application, web browser, or newsreader. Although Michael didn't ask
 about these things, other queries to this list imply sometimes that
 people expect it to.

 Dave

But ... since we're in the FYI department: The program will still 
cleanly open your currently installed email client and allow you to send 
mails.  So no, a mail client isn't integrated into OO.o, but IMO it's no 
big deal since it can be aware of any currently installed client as near 
as I can tell.  I've only ever used it with OE; the rest is actually 
just conjecture on my part. AFAIK you can't read e-mails with OO.o, so 
possibly that is what a lot of people miss, but ... .
   Personally, due to the number of ymmv issues and opinions over email 
clients I'd think an integrated email function might not get a lot of 
use without having a gazillion setup options.

HTH,

Twayne





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Re: [users] Re: [moderated] (UNSUBSCRIBED USER)

2009-04-17 Thread Dave Post

On Apr 17, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Twayne wrote:


But ... since we're in the FYI department: The program will still
cleanly open your currently installed email client and allow you to  
send

mails.


Good point, and would be worth mentioning in responses to inquiries.


  Personally, due to the number of ymmv issues and opinions over email
clients I'd think an integrated email function might not get a lot of
use without having a gazillion setup options.


Agree.

Dave

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[users] Integrated Mail - was Re: [users] Re: [moderated] (UNSUBSCRIBED USER)

2009-04-17 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 17/04/2009 17:07, Dave Post wrote:

On Apr 17, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Twayne wrote:


But ... since we're in the FYI department: The program will still
cleanly open your currently installed email client and allow you to send
mails.


Good point, and would be worth mentioning in responses to inquiries.


  Personally, due to the number of ymmv issues and opinions over email
clients I'd think an integrated email function might not get a lot of
use without having a gazillion setup options.


Agree.

Dave

I think there are a few reasons why people, particularly Windows people, 
want integrated mail:


   * Windows computers often come with Outlook (or Outlook Express)
 mail and MS Office pre-installed so people think they belong together.
   * Many versions of MS Office come with Outlook or Outlook Express so
 people think ...
   * Users of Outlook (but not of Outlook Express) have (used to
 have???) an option to configure Word as their mail editor.  If
 you choose this option then, when you either create a new message
 or reply to an existing one Outlook invokes some sort of inbuilt
 version of Word (it probably uses the Word API). You type your
 message with all (most?) of Word's editing capabilities, including
 things like tables, but then you just hit Send. No separate
 document is saved. The Word window is within an Outlook window so
 things like your address book, Send button, space for Subject etc.
 are just there. Your mail signature , if defined, is
 automatically added.
   * Spell checking is integrated between Outlook (or Outlook Express)
 and Word.

I think it's a shame that OOo's spell checker can't integrate with, say, 
Thunderbird's. You used to be able to copy TB's dictionary into an OOo 
directory somewhere (or OOo's dictionary into a TB directory) but even 
that is no longer possible since the advent of OOo 3.x with its new 
scheme for handling dictionaries as extensions. Ho hum.



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London, England
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Re: [users] Integrated Mail - was Re: [users] Re: [moderated] (UNSUBSCRIBED USER)

2009-04-17 Thread Michael Adams
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:51:48 +0100
Came this utterance formulated by Harold Fuchs to my mailbox:


 
 I think there are a few reasons why people, particularly Windows
 people, want integrated mail:
 
 * Windows computers often come with Outlook (or Outlook Express)
   mail and MS Office pre-installed so people think they belong
   together.
 * Many versions of MS Office come with Outlook or Outlook Express
   so people think ...

Outlook Express comes with Windows, but not with all versions of
windows. Outlook comes with Office.

 * Users of Outlook (but not of Outlook Express) have (used to
   have???) an option to configure Word as their mail editor.  If
   you choose this option then, when you either create a new
   message or reply to an existing one Outlook invokes some sort of
   inbuilt version of Word (it probably uses the Word API). You
   type your message with all (most?) of Word's editing
   capabilities, including things like tables, but then you just
   hit Send. No separate document is saved. The Word window is
   within an Outlook window so things like your address book, Send
   button, space for Subject etc. are just there. Your mail
   signature , if defined, is automatically added.

IMHO this is one of the worst uses possible. This formatted mail exports
as an HTML mail. Word is notorious for bad HTML which it seems to have
aquired from the equally notorious Frontpage. Non-standard, custom tags
galore, bloated HTML mails - grrr. And i am increasingly seeing no
quoting of quoted text - whats up with that?
http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/01/10/microsoft-breaks-html-email-rendering-in-outlook/


 * Spell checking is integrated between Outlook (or Outlook
   Express) and Word.

And if you uninstall Word, Outlook Express spell checking breaks!

 I think it's a shame that OOo's spell checker can't integrate with,
 say, Thunderbird's. You used to be able to copy TB's dictionary into
 an OOo directory somewhere (or OOo's dictionary into a TB directory)
 but even that is no longer possible since the advent of OOo 3.x with
 its new scheme for handling dictionaries as extensions. Ho hum.
 

I like the option to choose my email program seperately from my Office
software, it allows mix and match.

Thunderbird/lightning integration with OO.o is pretty good. Sun has/had
programmers on that.

-- 
Michael

All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
be well

 - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416

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Re: [users] Integrated Mail - was Re: [users] Re: [moderated] (UNSUBSCRIBED USER)

2009-04-17 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 17/04/2009 21:12, Michael Adams wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:51:48 +0100
Came this utterance formulated by Harold Fuchs to my mailbox:


  

I think there are a few reasons why people, particularly Windows
people, want integrated mail:

* Windows computers often come with Outlook (or Outlook Express)
  mail and MS Office pre-installed so people think they belong
  together.
* Many versions of MS Office come with Outlook or Outlook Express
  so people think ...



Outlook Express comes with Windows, but not with all versions of
windows. Outlook comes with Office.

  

* Users of Outlook (but not of Outlook Express) have (used to
  have???) an option to configure Word as their mail editor.  If
  you choose this option then, when you either create a new
  message or reply to an existing one Outlook invokes some sort of
  inbuilt version of Word (it probably uses the Word API). You
  type your message with all (most?) of Word's editing
  capabilities, including things like tables, but then you just
  hit Send. No separate document is saved. The Word window is
  within an Outlook window so things like your address book, Send
  button, space for Subject etc. are just there. Your mail
  signature , if defined, is automatically added.



IMHO this is one of the worst uses possible. This formatted mail exports
as an HTML mail. Word is notorious for bad HTML which it seems to have
aquired from the equally notorious Frontpage. Non-standard, custom tags
galore, bloated HTML mails - grrr. And i am increasingly seeing no
quoting of quoted text - whats up with that?
http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/01/10/microsoft-breaks-html-email-rendering-in-outlook/

  
I didn't say it was good. I didn't say I like it. I said it's what a lot 
of people have come to expect, partly based on what other people in 
their company do. And it is convenient because you don't have to learn 
two separate user interfaces.
  

* Spell checking is integrated between Outlook (or Outlook
  Express) and Word.



And if you uninstall Word, Outlook Express spell checking breaks!
  

Yes. That's one of the reasons people don't uninstall Word. Clever isn't it?
  

I think it's a shame that OOo's spell checker can't integrate with,
say, Thunderbird's. You used to be able to copy TB's dictionary into
an OOo directory somewhere (or OOo's dictionary into a TB directory)
but even that is no longer possible since the advent of OOo 3.x with
its new scheme for handling dictionaries as extensions. Ho hum.




I like the option to choose my email program seperately from my Office
software, it allows mix and match.
  
Mix and match is fine. But mixing and not matching is what we have if we 
choose OOo and Thunderbird. Or OOo and any mail program - at least as 
far as spell checking is concerned.

Thunderbird/lightning integration with OO.o is pretty good. Sun has/had
programmers on that.
  
Thunderbird/OOo integration has got *worse* from 2.4.x to 3.x. As I said 
you can no longer even use a copy of a TB dictionary in OOo, or a copy 
of an OOo dictionary in TB. Of course, you should be able to use the 
*same* dictionary. Why do I have to add the same word twice? Or if not 
TB, then some other mail program. Sun doesn't have programmers on that. 
Or if it does then they are travelling backwards.


--
Harold Fuchs
London, England
Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org



Re: [users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-18 Thread Harold Fuchs
2009/3/18 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net

 On 03/17/2009 02:22 PM, Web Kracked wrote:
  Andrew Fisk wrote:
  user computer -- if nothing else avg 8 was not out until late 2008
 
 
 
 
  The AVG antivirus was from my in/out email scanning system.
  The original email did not have any AVG stuff
  except what my system placed on it.
 
 

 You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)


And it doesn't mean anything anyway; I could just as easily type that text
myself *and* include a virus in the message. If your respondents are
reassured by it you are dealing with the wrong sort of people, unless you
sell snake oil for a living ;-)


-- 
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London, England
Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org


Re: [users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-18 Thread Gene Young

Harold Fuchs wrote:

2009/3/18 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net


On 03/17/2009 02:22 PM, Web Kracked wrote:

Andrew Fisk wrote:

user computer -- if nothing else avg 8 was not out until late 2008




The AVG antivirus was from my in/out email scanning system.
The original email did not have any AVG stuff
except what my system placed on it.



You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)



And it doesn't mean anything anyway; I could just as easily type that text
myself *and* include a virus in the message. If your respondents are
reassured by it you are dealing with the wrong sort of people, unless you
sell snake oil for a living ;-)




That message is not inserted into outgoing messages.  It is appended to 
incoming messages that AVG has scanned.  I suppose it is intended to 
re-assure the recipient that his scanner is working.  When you include 
the entire text of one of your own received messages with out trimming 
it is only then included in an out going message, as far as I can tell.


--
Gene Y.

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Re: [users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-18 Thread Harold Fuchs
2009/3/18 Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com

 Harold Fuchs wrote:

 2009/3/18 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net

  On 03/17/2009 02:22 PM, Web Kracked wrote:

 Andrew Fisk wrote:

 user computer -- if nothing else avg 8 was not out until late 2008



 The AVG antivirus was from my in/out email scanning system.
 The original email did not have any AVG stuff
 except what my system placed on it.


  You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)


 And it doesn't mean anything anyway; I could just as easily type that text
 myself *and* include a virus in the message. If your respondents are
 reassured by it you are dealing with the wrong sort of people, unless you
 sell snake oil for a living ;-)



 That message is not inserted into outgoing messages.  It is appended to
 incoming messages that AVG has scanned.  I suppose it is intended to
 re-assure the recipient that his scanner is working.  When you include the
 entire text of one of your own received messages with out trimming it is
 only then included in an out going message, as far as I can tell.

 The message being complained of was
=== begin message ===
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: 03/17/09
16:25:00
=== end message ===

Note the use of the word outgoing.

I hope my messages don't include this as I explicitly turned it off in my
AVG. Please let me know if my hopes are not being fulfilled.

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Re: [users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-18 Thread Web Kracked

NoOp wrote:

On 03/17/2009 02:22 PM, Web Kracked wrote:

Andrew Fisk wrote:

user computer -- if nothing else avg 8 was not out until late 2008




The AVG antivirus was from my in/out email scanning system.
The original email did not have any AVG stuff
except what my system placed on it.




You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)



Are you saying I should turn off my Anti-Virus protection?
Turn off my system that makes sure the email coming in
are not infected and the email I send are not infected?

Do you know how many email people receive each year that has
an infection?  I get plenty of them.  And once from this list.

It may be irritating to some, but it is better than getting an
infection via email you open.

I have Hardware firewall through my router, and software
firewall via ZoneAlarm.  I have anti-virus via AVG.  I have
several other security programs running all the time.  Since
then, I have never got an infection.  I can even download an
infection and it is automatically cleaned or healed and
then I am warned about it.

So no one should turn off their computer's security protection.


No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: 03/17/09 
16:25:00

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Re: [users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-18 Thread Barbara Duprey

Web Kracked wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 03/17/2009 02:22 PM, Web Kracked wrote:

Andrew Fisk wrote:

user computer -- if nothing else avg 8 was not out until late 2008




The AVG antivirus was from my in/out email scanning system.
The original email did not have any AVG stuff
except what my system placed on it.




You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)



Are you saying I should turn off my Anti-Virus protection?
Turn off my system that makes sure the email coming in
are not infected and the email I send are not infected?

Do you know how many email people receive each year that has
an infection?  I get plenty of them.  And once from this list.

It may be irritating to some, but it is better than getting an
infection via email you open.

I have Hardware firewall through my router, and software
firewall via ZoneAlarm.  I have anti-virus via AVG.  I have
several other security programs running all the time.  Since
then, I have never got an infection.  I can even download an
infection and it is automatically cleaned or healed and
then I am warned about it.

So no one should turn off their computer's security protection.
Definitely nobody should turn the protection off! But AVG has some 
setting options for whether to insert its own messages into incoming and 
outgoing mail, and for some unknown reason they are both on by default. 
You can turn them off by deselecting the Certify options under Tools  
Advanced settings  E-mail Scanner, while leaving the Check options 
selected, and that's what was being recommended.


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-18 Thread Anthony Chilco



 You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)

 
 Are you saying I should turn off my Anti-Virus protection?
 Turn off my system that makes sure the email coming in
 are not infected and the email I send are not infected?

Perish the thought! The notice that gets added to your message can be turned 
off, though.


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-18 Thread Harold Fuchs
2009/3/18 Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com

 Web Kracked wrote:

 NoOp wrote:

 On 03/17/2009 02:22 PM, Web Kracked wrote:

 Andrew Fisk wrote:

 user computer -- if nothing else avg 8 was not out until late 2008



 The AVG antivirus was from my in/out email scanning system.
 The original email did not have any AVG stuff
 except what my system placed on it.



 You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)


 Are you saying I should turn off my Anti-Virus protection?
 Turn off my system that makes sure the email coming in
 are not infected and the email I send are not infected?

 Do you know how many email people receive each year that has
 an infection?  I get plenty of them.  And once from this list.

 It may be irritating to some, but it is better than getting an
 infection via email you open.

 I have Hardware firewall through my router, and software
 firewall via ZoneAlarm.  I have anti-virus via AVG.  I have
 several other security programs running all the time.  Since
 then, I have never got an infection.  I can even download an
 infection and it is automatically cleaned or healed and
 then I am warned about it.

 So no one should turn off their computer's security protection.

 Definitely nobody should turn the protection off! But AVG has some setting
 options for whether to insert its own messages into incoming and outgoing
 mail, and for some unknown reason they are both on by default. You can turn
 them off by deselecting the Certify options under Tools  Advanced
 settings  E-mail Scanner, while leaving the Check options selected, and
 that's what was being recommended.

 Thank you, Barbara.


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[users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-18 Thread NoOp
On 03/18/2009 05:49 AM, Web Kracked wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 03/17/2009 02:22 PM, Web Kracked wrote:
 Andrew Fisk wrote:
 user computer -- if nothing else avg 8 was not out until late 2008



 The AVG antivirus was from my in/out email scanning system.
 The original email did not have any AVG stuff
 except what my system placed on it.


 
 You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)
 
 
 Are you saying I should turn off my Anti-Virus protection?
 Turn off my system that makes sure the email coming in
 are not infected and the email I send are not infected?

No. I am suggesting that you turn off me AVG msg tag. I think that
Google or the AVG forums will assist you in doing that.



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Re: [users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-18 Thread James Knott
Web Kracked wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 03/17/2009 02:22 PM, Web Kracked wrote:
 Andrew Fisk wrote:
 user computer -- if nothing else avg 8 was not out until late 2008



 The AVG antivirus was from my in/out email scanning system.
 The original email did not have any AVG stuff
 except what my system placed on it.



 You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)


 Are you saying I should turn off my Anti-Virus protection?
 Turn off my system that makes sure the email coming in
 are not infected and the email I send are not infected?

 Do you know how many email people receive each year that has
 an infection?  I get plenty of them.  And once from this list.

 It may be irritating to some, but it is better than getting an
 infection via email you open.

 I have Hardware firewall through my router, and software
 firewall via ZoneAlarm.  I have anti-virus via AVG.  I have
 several other security programs running all the time.  Since
 then, I have never got an infection.  I can even download an
 infection and it is automatically cleaned or healed and
 then I am warned about it.

 So no one should turn off their computer's security protection.
An excellent way to avoid virus problems is to run Linux.  There has
never been a successful Linux virus.

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[users] Re: [moderated] -- June 2007 dated email received March 17th 2009

2009-03-17 Thread NoOp
On 03/17/2009 02:22 PM, Web Kracked wrote:
 Andrew Fisk wrote:
 user computer -- if nothing else avg 8 was not out until late 2008
 
 
 
 
 The AVG antivirus was from my in/out email scanning system.
 The original email did not have any AVG stuff
 except what my system placed on it.
 
 

You should turn it off... it's pretty irritating :-)



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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-03-10 Thread Russell Butler
Robyn wrote:
 I thought this was supposed to work without or instead of office
 works.  I refuse to pay such a large sum (on war widow's pension) for
 a programme that really bugs me ... it takes over everything!
 
 I look forward to hearing from you regards, Robyn Jenkins

Hello Robyn

You are quite right to refuse to pay, OpenOffice.org (OOo) is available
*free* from download.openoffice.org  If someone has wanted to charge you
for it, then you may be being ripped off. There are people who claim
to offer extra services for OOo and charge for those, but you certainly
don't _have_ to get it from them.

OpenOffice.org can work as a replacement for Microsoft Office and has
good (but not perfect) interoperability with MS Office. It will not open
or save native MS Works  documents, however.

Have a look around on http://www.openoffice.org/ where you will find
lots of good information, and come back to the list if you have any
further questions.

Russell



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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2009-03-10 Thread John Boyle
Russell Butler wrote:
 Robyn wrote:
   
 I thought this was supposed to work without or instead of office
 works.  I refuse to pay such a large sum (on war widow's pension) for
 a programme that really bugs me ... it takes over everything!

 I look forward to hearing from you regards, Robyn Jenkins
 

 Hello Robyn

 You are quite right to refuse to pay, OpenOffice.org (OOo) is available
 *free* from download.openoffice.org  If someone has wanted to charge you
 for it, then you may be being ripped off. There are people who claim
 to offer extra services for OOo and charge for those, but you certainly
 don't _have_ to get it from them.

 OpenOffice.org can work as a replacement for Microsoft Office and has
 good (but not perfect) interoperability with MS Office. It will not open
 or save native MS Works  documents, however.

 Have a look around on http://www.openoffice.org/ where you will find
 lots of good information, and come back to the list if you have any
 further questions.

 Russell



   
To Russell and Users: Have you tried Oxygen Office, the enhanced version
by KAMI? If I am not mistaken, and I may be, it may be able to open
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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-03-10 Thread Russell Butler
John Boyle wrote:
 Russell Butler wrote:
 Robyn wrote:
   
 I thought this was supposed to work without or instead of office
 works.  I refuse to pay such a large sum (on war widow's pension) for
 a programme that really bugs me ... it takes over everything!

 I look forward to hearing from you regards, Robyn Jenkins
 
 Hello Robyn

 You are quite right to refuse to pay, OpenOffice.org (OOo) is available
 *free* from download.openoffice.org  If someone has wanted to charge you
 for it, then you may be being ripped off. There are people who claim
 to offer extra services for OOo and charge for those, but you certainly
 don't _have_ to get it from them.

 OpenOffice.org can work as a replacement for Microsoft Office and has
 good (but not perfect) interoperability with MS Office. It will not open
 or save native MS Works  documents, however.

 Have a look around on http://www.openoffice.org/ where you will find
 lots of good information, and come back to the list if you have any
 further questions.

 Russell



   
 To Russell and Users: Have you tried Oxygen Office, the enhanced version
 by KAMI? If I am not mistaken, and I may be, it may be able to open
 Microsoft Works, I do not know though!
 
Thanks, John, but I have no personal need to open MS Works files, I just
said that in case Robyn needed the functionality. I have had no response
from her on or off list, but you could perhaps make the suggestion to her.

Regards

Russell


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[users] Re: [moderated]

2009-01-09 Thread Russell Butler

Kjell Claësson wrote:

Hi!
I have downloaded OO 3.0 and when I use swriter and try to save the 
document it will be saved as a Thunderbird page, Why? with version 2.4 I 
could make different documents, one for Swedish one for English and one 
for German and they were all saved as writer-documents. Is that not 
longer possible and why are the documents  saved as Thunderbird pages?


Regards
a very puzzled OO-fan

Kjell Claësson

Hi Kjell

It seems likely that you have not enabled the Automatic File Name 
Extension on your save dialogue. Just tick (check) the box.


Russell

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Mike and *,

Am 2008-11-24 01:08:35, schrieb Mike:
 OpenOffice.org saves files in the standard Open Document Format.  M$ Office
 doesn't recognize this format but OpenOffice.org (being vastly superior ;-) ) 
 is
 capable of saving files in a non-standard format that M$ Office can read.  To 
 do
  
This is the best phrase I have read this month...

Thanks, Greetings and Merry Christmas
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-14 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 14/12/2008 02:04, Larry Gusaas wrote:

bill wrote:
clip /

Larry Gusaas wrote:
   

 Harold Fuchs wrote:
 

 On 12/12/2008 14:38, Web Kracked wrote:
   
 My copy of Thunderbird is now asking me if the email from 
this list

 is spam.
 Every email, I am asked if it is spam.  This did not happen
 yesterday or any
 other day since I started running Thunderbird.

 So it may not just be you.  Something has changed.  
Hopefully it

 will change
 back.

 Tim L.
  
 Thunderbird has a facility whereby you can have it mark as 
junk mail
 from anyone not in your address book. Have you accidentally 
turned on

 this option?
 The option is is available in the main window: ToolsAccount
 SettingsJunk Settings



 There is no such setting. The setting is to not mark as junk 
anyone in

 you addressbook.


I beg to differ.  In Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 Tools - Account settings
then you select the account in which you are interested and listed 
between Disk Space and Return Receipts is Junk Settings.


Read all of what I said. I replied to a post that said there was a 
setting  mark as junk mail from anyone not in your address book. I 
pointed out that there was not such a setting.


Mr. Gusaas is right; the setting is Do not mark mail as junk if the 
sender is in  The converse of that is *not* mark as junk if the 
sender is not in ..., which is what I erroneously calculated.


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-13 Thread Michael Adams
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:37:56 -0800
Came this utterance fomulated by John Boyle to my mailbox:

 Larry Gusaas wrote:
  Harold Fuchs wrote:
  On 12/12/2008 14:38, Web Kracked wrote:
  My copy of Thunderbird is now asking me if the email from this
 list is spam.
  Every email, I am asked if it is spam.  This did not happen
  yesterday or any
  other day since I started running Thunderbird.
 
  So it may not just be you.  Something has changed.  Hopefully it
  will change
  back.
 
  Tim L.
  Thunderbird has a facility whereby you can have it mark as junk
 mail from anyone not in your address book. Have you accidentally
 turned on this option?
  The option is is available in the main window: ToolsAccount
  SettingsJunk Settings
 
  There is no such setting. The setting is to not mark as junk anyone
  in you addressbook.
 
 To ALL: You would be better off getting Seamonkey or even sticking
 with IE, Heaven forbid the last, but a separate stand alone email
 program seems to be a waste, to me!

Ah the champion of free choice speaks ;-P LOL Funny thing is, i don't
remember any mail client called, or abbreviated to, IE!

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[users] Automatic Reply: I am away at the moment (Re: [users] Re: [moderated])

2008-12-13 Thread lespursey
I'll be in touch with you when I get back. 
 
Have a great day!


Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-13 Thread John Boyle
Michael Adams wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:37:56 -0800
 Came this utterance fomulated by John Boyle to my mailbox:

   
 Larry Gusaas wrote:
 
 Harold Fuchs wrote:
   
 On 12/12/2008 14:38, Web Kracked wrote:
 
 My copy of Thunderbird is now asking me if the email from this
   
 list is spam.
   
 Every email, I am asked if it is spam.  This did not happen
 yesterday or any
 other day since I started running Thunderbird.

 So it may not just be you.  Something has changed.  Hopefully it
 will change
 back.

 Tim L.
   
 Thunderbird has a facility whereby you can have it mark as junk
 
 mail from anyone not in your address book. Have you accidentally
 turned on this option?
   
 The option is is available in the main window: ToolsAccount
 SettingsJunk Settings
 
 There is no such setting. The setting is to not mark as junk anyone
 in you addressbook.

   
 To ALL: You would be better off getting Seamonkey or even sticking
 with IE, Heaven forbid the last, but a separate stand alone email
 program seems to be a waste, to me!
 

 Ah the champion of free choice speaks ;-P LOL Funny thing is, i don't
 remember any mail client called, or abbreviated to, IE!

   
To ALL: This one was meant as my opinion, not as anything else, thank
you! :-)

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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-13 Thread bill

John Boyle wrote:

Michael Adams wrote:
  

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:37:56 -0800
Came this utterance fomulated by John Boyle to my mailbox:

  


Larry Gusaas wrote:

  

Harold Fuchs wrote:
  


On 12/12/2008 14:38, Web Kracked wrote:

  

My copy of Thunderbird is now asking me if the email from this
  


list is spam.
  


Every email, I am asked if it is spam.  This did not happen
yesterday or any
other day since I started running Thunderbird.

So it may not just be you.  Something has changed.  Hopefully it
will change
back.

Tim L.
  


Thunderbird has a facility whereby you can have it mark as junk

  

mail from anyone not in your address book. Have you accidentally
turned on this option?
  


The option is is available in the main window: ToolsAccount
SettingsJunk Settings

  

There is no such setting. The setting is to not mark as junk anyone
in you addressbook.

  

I beg to differ.  In Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 Tools - Account settings
then you select the account in which you are interested and listed 
between Disk Space and Return Receipts is Junk Settings.


There are a few global junk mail options under Tools - Options - Privacy.

I have found the Thunderbird junk mail filter to be very good.
But, it does need to be trained.  One trains the filter by manually 
marking an email as junk (or if it is already marked as junk, by marking 
it as not junk with one click.


BTW, my Thunderbird does not mark Open office user's mail as junk.

--
Bill Drescher
william {at} TechServSys {dot} com



Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-13 Thread Gene Young

bill wrote:

  

There is no such setting. The setting is to not mark as junk anyone
in you addressbook.

  

I beg to differ.  In Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 Tools - Account settings
then you select the account in which you are interested and listed 
between Disk Space and Return Receipts is Junk Settings.








You may differ all you want.  I have Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 and the choice, which I have open in front 
of my eyes now, is clearly to NOT MARK AS JUNK ANYONE IN (here you have the choice of address book 
or collected addresses) You may wish to revisit your settings to refresh your memory. ;-)


Gene

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-13 Thread Larry Gusaas

bill wrote:
clip / 

Larry Gusaas wrote:


 Harold Fuchs wrote:
  

 On 12/12/2008 14:38, Web Kracked wrote:


 My copy of Thunderbird is now asking me if the email from this list
 is spam.
 Every email, I am asked if it is spam.  This did not happen
 yesterday or any
 other day since I started running Thunderbird.

 So it may not just be you.  Something has changed.  Hopefully it
 will change
 back.

 Tim L.
  

 Thunderbird has a facility whereby you can have it mark as junk mail
 from anyone not in your address book. Have you accidentally turned on
 this option?
 The option is is available in the main window: ToolsAccount
 SettingsJunk Settings



 There is no such setting. The setting is to not mark as junk anyone in
 you addressbook.
  
  

I beg to differ.  In Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 Tools - Account settings
then you select the account in which you are interested and listed 
between Disk Space and Return Receipts is Junk Settings.


Read all of what I said. I replied to a post that said there was a 
setting  mark as junk mail from anyone not in your address book. I 
pointed out that there was not such a setting.


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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-12 Thread Larry Gusaas

Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 12/12/2008 14:38, Web Kracked wrote:
My copy of Thunderbird is now asking me if the email from this list 
is spam.
Every email, I am asked if it is spam.  This did not happen yesterday 
or any

other day since I started running Thunderbird.

So it may not just be you.  Something has changed.  Hopefully it will 
change

back.

Tim L.
Thunderbird has a facility whereby you can have it mark as junk mail 
from anyone not in your address book. Have you accidentally turned on 
this option?
The option is is available in the main window: ToolsAccount 
SettingsJunk Settings


There is no such setting. The setting is to not mark as junk anyone in 
you addressbook.


--

Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
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Edgard Varese


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-12 Thread John Boyle
Larry Gusaas wrote:
 Harold Fuchs wrote:
 On 12/12/2008 14:38, Web Kracked wrote:
 My copy of Thunderbird is now asking me if the email from this list
 is spam.
 Every email, I am asked if it is spam.  This did not happen
 yesterday or any
 other day since I started running Thunderbird.

 So it may not just be you.  Something has changed.  Hopefully it
 will change
 back.

 Tim L.
 Thunderbird has a facility whereby you can have it mark as junk mail
 from anyone not in your address book. Have you accidentally turned on
 this option?
 The option is is available in the main window: ToolsAccount
 SettingsJunk Settings

 There is no such setting. The setting is to not mark as junk anyone in
 you addressbook.

To ALL: You would be better off getting Seamonkey or even sticking with
IE, Heaven forbid the last, but a separate stand alone email program
seems to be a waste, to me!

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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-12 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 12/12/2008 04:54, Jerry Clancy wrote:
I'm having trouble even understanding this thread but I have a 
suspicion that spam and OO 3.0 should perhaps be decoupled. It may 
be more likely that May-Britt or her host SMTP server has been 
labelled a spammer and she should perhaps take this up with her email 
service. This can happen easily if some spammer has been spoofing her 
email address for junk mail purposes. It can also happen if her host 
is the source of a lot of spamming by others and the server has been 
put on lists such as spamhaus, etc.


Jerry
I think it's probable that May-Britt's respondents' mail programs are 
marking the attachments as spam because they don't recognise the file 
type. Several spam filters have this as their default setting. 
Outlook/Exchange has this facility, for example.


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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-11 Thread Jerry Clancy
I'm having trouble even understanding this thread but I have a suspicion 
that spam and OO 3.0 should perhaps be decoupled. It may be more likely 
that May-Britt or her host SMTP server has been labelled a spammer and she 
should perhaps take this up with her email service. This can happen easily 
if some spammer has been spoofing her email address for junk mail purposes. 
It can also happen if her host is the source of a lot of spamming by others 
and the server has been put on lists such as spamhaus, etc.


Jerry

James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote in message 
news:4941d8cc.1030...@rogers.com...

May-Britt Persson wrote:
Hello, I have just downloaded Open Office 3.0 and I have a problem when I 
attaced a document in a mail. My friends recieve my mail as spam and even 
if I only send 1 page, they recieve 6-7 mails, which they cant read. Why?

Many regards from
May-Britt Persson



I don't know why they see it as spam, unless they consider attachments
to be spam.  As for them not being able to open the files, it could be
you're sending the default ODF formats and they're running Microsoft
Office.  Since Microsoft Office can't read ODF files, you'll have to
send in Microsoft Office format.  You can do this by clicking on File 
Send  E-mail as Microsoft Word etc.




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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-10 Thread Larry Gusaas

Jeffrey Burke wrote:

I have two hopfully easy questions;
 
1.   Will Open  Office run on a MAC?
  


Yes


 2.  What are the system requirements?  I have two computers running Windows XP 
pro and an older machine running Windows 98. I use Wundows Office 2002 
so that I remain compatible with the corporation I work and I am concerned 
about the minimum  processor speed.
  


http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_30.html

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[users] Re: [moderated]OO.o for PPC Mac

2008-11-30 Thread Larry Gusaas

Reverend Pennie Mummy CD MS wrote:

OK, I downloaded the OpenOffice software to my Mac OS 10.4.11, THEN I
noticed your wanting Intel.  My Mac is about 15 years old, before the
Intel chip was in Mac computers.  Will the software still operate?

I need PowerPoint, as I was loading the software yesterday I saw a
free download, today I can't find it, wondered if you coule please
send me a link.

My question is this, will OpenOffice work with my Mac that does NOT
have Intel, or should I scrap the whole thing as a disaster and forget
about it until I have, some day, a newer Mac?
  


You can get OO.o for PPC Macs from the good-day site. Here is a link to 
the US English version:

http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.0.0rc4/OOo_3.0.0rc4_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg

If you require a different lanquage go here:
http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.0.0rc4/

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-11-28 Thread NoOp
On 11/28/2008 12:24 AM, Michael Adams wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:25:21 -0800 (PST)
 Came this utterance fomulated by Bob Cunningham to my mailbox:
 
 Could you PLEASE send me instructions on how to uninstall this
 absolutely useless program that screws up my computer.  Thank You.  
 Send the instructions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Open a command window and type:
 format c:
 
 *** Not sent to OP ;-)
 

*Please* do not post commands potentially destructive commands like
this, even as a joke. If you've followed this list for any length of
time (even a week or two) you will see that the list get queries from
very inexperienced computer users. One may come across your 'advise' and
actually try it... Posting such on some lists/forums can/will get you
immediately banned from the list/forum.





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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-11-28 Thread Mike
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NoOp wrote:
 On 11/28/2008 12:24 AM, Michael Adams wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:25:21 -0800 (PST)
 Came this utterance fomulated by Bob Cunningham to my mailbox:

 Could you PLEASE send me instructions on how to uninstall this
 absolutely useless program that screws up my computer.  Thank You.  
 Send the instructions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Open a command window and type:
 format c:

 *** Not sent to OP ;-)

 
 *Please* do not post commands potentially destructive commands like
 this, even as a joke. If you've followed this list for any length of
 time (even a week or two) you will see that the list get queries from
 very inexperienced computer users. One may come across your 'advise' and
 actually try it... Posting such on some lists/forums can/will get you
 immediately banned from the list/forum.
 
That advice will get rid of the absolutely useless program that screws up
computers.  Unfortunately it will delete OpenOffice.org and other useful
programs too.

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-11-28 Thread NoOp
On 11/28/2008 05:15 PM, Mike wrote:
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 NoOp wrote:
 On 11/28/2008 12:24 AM, Michael Adams wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:25:21 -0800 (PST)
 Came this utterance fomulated by Bob Cunningham to my mailbox:

 Could you PLEASE send me instructions on how to uninstall this
 absolutely useless program that screws up my computer.  Thank You.  
 Send the instructions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Open a command window and type:
 format c:

 *** Not sent to OP ;-)

 
 *Please* do not post commands potentially destructive commands like
 this, even as a joke. If you've followed this list for any length of
 time (even a week or two) you will see that the list get queries from
 very inexperienced computer users. One may come across your 'advise' and
 actually try it... Posting such on some lists/forums can/will get you
 immediately banned from the list/forum.
 
 That advice will get rid of the absolutely useless program that screws up
 computers.  Unfortunately it will delete OpenOffice.org and other useful
 programs too.
 
 - --
 Mike

And that 'advise' should cause an automatic ban/unsubscribe of users who
post such 'advise'.


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-11-28 Thread Drew Jensen

NoOp wrote:

On 11/28/2008 05:15 PM, Mike wrote:

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NoOp wrote:

On 11/28/2008 12:24 AM, Michael Adams wrote:

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:25:21 -0800 (PST)
Came this utterance fomulated by Bob Cunningham to my mailbox:


Could you PLEASE send me instructions on how to uninstall this
absolutely useless program that screws up my computer.  Thank You.  
Send the instructions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




snip



*** Not sent to OP ;-)


*Please* do not post commands potentially destructive commands like
this, even as a joke. If you've followed this list for any length of
time (even a week or two) you will see that the list get queries from
very inexperienced computer users. One may come across your 'advise' and
actually try it... Posting such on some lists/forums can/will get you
immediately banned from the list/forum.


That advice will get rid of the absolutely useless program that screws up
computers.  Unfortunately it will delete OpenOffice.org and other useful
programs too.

- --
Mike


And that 'advise' should cause an automatic ban/unsubscribe of users who
post such 'advise'.




I was thinking of what the moderators at the web forum would do with 
that post - I'm reasonably certain it would go as follows:


a) move it to the quarantine area so that all the other moderators can 
see the post and who made it. Which also hides it from standard users 
and from search engine bots, then purges it after 7 days.


b) Issue a waring to the user that this is not acceptable and a second 
such post will result in being banned, for some period of time.


The big difference here is that on a web forum the post can be removed - 
in a mailing list such as this however that is not really an option as 
this 'little joke' is going to be archived all over the net...and yes 
there are people just naive enough to do it. So even though you did not 
send it to the OP, you really have no idea who will actually see it.


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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-11-28 Thread NoOp
On 11/28/2008 06:37 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 11/28/2008 05:15 PM, Mike wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1

 NoOp wrote:
 On 11/28/2008 12:24 AM, Michael Adams wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:25:21 -0800 (PST)
 Came this utterance fomulated by Bob Cunningham to my mailbox:

 Could you PLEASE send me instructions on how to uninstall this
 absolutely useless program that screws up my computer.  Thank You.  
 Send the instructions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 snip
 

 *** Not sent to OP ;-)

 *Please* do not post commands potentially destructive commands like
 this, even as a joke. If you've followed this list for any length of
 time (even a week or two) you will see that the list get queries from
 very inexperienced computer users. One may come across your 'advise' and
 actually try it... Posting such on some lists/forums can/will get you
 immediately banned from the list/forum.

 That advice will get rid of the absolutely useless program that screws up
 computers.  Unfortunately it will delete OpenOffice.org and other useful
 programs too.

 - --
 Mike
 
 And that 'advise' should cause an automatic ban/unsubscribe of users who
 post such 'advise'.
 
 
 
 I was thinking of what the moderators at the web forum would do with 
 that post - I'm reasonably certain it would go as follows:
 
 a) move it to the quarantine area so that all the other moderators can 
 see the post and who made it. Which also hides it from standard users 
 and from search engine bots, then purges it after 7 days.
 
 b) Issue a waring to the user that this is not acceptable and a second 
 such post will result in being banned, for some period of time.
 
 The big difference here is that on a web forum the post can be removed - 
 in a mailing list such as this however that is not really an option as 
 this 'little joke' is going to be archived all over the net...and yes 
 there are people just naive enough to do it. So even though you did not 
 send it to the OP, you really have no idea who will actually see it.

I trust that by 'you', you mean mike. At least I hope so as I prefer not
to be associated with providing such 'advise'.

An example of intolerance of such 'advise' on another forum is:
http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?s=7fef32823bd54511b698776f27ef6017f=326
[ATTENTION ALL USERS: Malicious Commands]

quote
I'd just like to caution those thinking of doing this that UbuntuForums
has a strict zero-tolerance policy when it comes to posting dangerous
commands. If you post one of them, particularly in a support thread
disguised as advice, expect to be instantly and permanently BANNED, at
the account, e-mail, IP, or ISP level. I do not care about intent -- if
you mean it as a joke, it is not funny. If you mean it as a lesson, go
teach it somewhere else. This behavior is absolutely against the Forum
Guidelines and Ubuntu Code of Conduct.
/quote


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-11-28 Thread Drew Jensen


I trust that by 'you', you mean mike. At least I hope so as I prefer not
to be associated with providing such 'advise'.


Yes - sorry, I could have been more specific there - I was referring of 
course to the person offering the ~advice~.




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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-11-28 Thread Michael Adams
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:16:50 -0500
Came this utterance fomulated by Drew Jensen to my mailbox:

  
  I trust that by 'you', you mean mike. At least I hope so as I prefer
  not to be associated with providing such 'advise'.
 
 Yes - sorry, I could have been more specific there - I was referring
 of course to the person offering the ~advice~.
 

See my other reply, how to uninstall.

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-10-03 Thread Russell Butler

Jim D wrote:

Yes win XP Thank you, I have it up and running now, may I ask you how
to address and print an envelope, the directions are confusing?


Hi Jim

This may help:

http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/word_processing/Howto-printing-envelopes-diagnostics.html

Otherwise do a search on envelope printing on the OOo site.

HTH

Russell
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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-10-03 Thread JOE Conner

Russell Butler wrote:

Jim D wrote:

Yes win XP Thank you, I have it up and running now, may I ask you how
to address and print an envelope, the directions are confusing?


Hi Jim

This may help:

http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/word_processing/Howto-printing-envelopes-diagnostics.html 



Otherwise do a search on envelope printing on the OOo site.

HTH

Russell
And my personal favorite:  
http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid39_gci1146815,00.html

(after you close the opening advertisement splash screen)

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[users] Re: [moderated] Validity

2008-09-17 Thread Twayne
 My name is AlanHarkness,



 I have just downloaded your program, but before I opened it up to run
 it a notice came up saying the Microsoft system could not identify
 the authorship of it so warning if I run it there may be a risk. Your
 office system sounds great. I would like to try it. Just wonder why
 my system here is not recognizing it.



 Yours  Sincerely \



 Alan HarknessScript   Consultant   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That is Microsoft's way of encouraging you to use ONLY software 
Microsoft has personally qualified as being good software.  Almost All 
non Microsoft installations will bring that up as a rule.  As long as 
you download it from OO.o, you're fine; just go ahead and install it. 
It's marketing hype, actually and IMO pretty rude.

HTH

Twayne

PS - I know your name somehow; were you around 'T'vle QLD in the 60's? 
I  was at Garbut. 




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[users] Re: [moderated] Opening a Works Document

2008-08-28 Thread Twayne
 2008/8/27 Gsvrtsn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Good Evening,

 I just installed the open office software, I was told to get this
 because I need to convert as extension of .wps to .doc, and I do not
 know where or what to do to covert this. I get an error message
 saying (that this file needs to be opened up by the works 6.0 text
 converter). The file I am trying to convert is Gail's Resume.wps to
 Gail's Resume.doc.
 Please advise on where or how I convert this over. I have Windows XP.

 Thank you,
 Gail


 I don't think OpenOffice.org will open Works files. Microsoft has a
 free converter at
 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bf41401e-70fa-465d-ae2e-cf44dbf05297DisplayLang=enwhich
 will apparently convert a Works file (.wps) to Word (.doc). Once you
 have a .doc then Openoffice.org will be able to open it.

 If you have difficulties, come back here with details ...

Or just save the Works file in .rtf format?  OOo opens .rtf files 
perfectly near as I can tell.

Twayne 




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[users] Re: [moderated] Opening Excel Spreadsheets in OOo

2008-07-31 Thread NoOp
On 07/31/2008 02:48 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:

 
 Also, OpenOffice can't handle Microsoft's macros so if the spreadsheet has
 those OpenOffice will open it but the results won't be right. To handle
 Microsoft macros (written in VBA) you need OxygenOffice from 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop. I believe that the software is free,
 like OpenOffice but, unlike OpenOffice support for OxygenOffice is not free.
 

Perhaps you are referring to Sun's StarOffice instead? Support for
OxygenOffice is the same as OOo +KAMI.






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[users] Re: [moderated]

2008-07-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-07-23 21:32:05, schrieb John Thorn:
 can you use open office with Vista? John
 END OF REPLIED MESSAGE 

No, since I have no Vista.  ;-)

If you mean yourself, yes, IF you have Vista installed.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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