Re: LC vs. LC 475
Marten van de Kraats wrote: I'm no expert on this, I think the only 68k Mac that can be brought forward to a PPC is the Quadra 800, and that takes saving the upper case, throwing out the rest and putting the upper case on a PM 8500. The back and the bottom will not work on a 8500. (I tried years ago, and bought the mobo and higher output power supply, but could not find the case bottom.) Ahum. There is a ppc update for the IIci. And I am pretty sure the 800 isn't the only quad that can be upgraded with a ppc processor. The Q650 runs a 601 and 8.6 nicely thanks, just adding one more form factor. :) Apple's Power Macintosh Upgrade Card would work in the Centris Quadra 650/700/800/900/950 and maybe 610. This card worked with OS 7.1.2 through to 8.1. There was also a 601 Processor Upgrade Card for some of the 68040 LC's. I don't know what third party options there were. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Cd on an LCIII
-- Original Message -- From: J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:29:29 -0700 on 10/20/03 7:54 AM, olivier charitos at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, and sorry if this is a waste of time: a) I want to run a CD drive off my old LCIII, b) I have an old drive from a 7100, c) I dont want to put this drive in an external case with an external PS, d) can I rig up some kind of wiring to get the SCSI signal after the internal HD and the required power from the PS of the LC? The power requirements for the CD drive and the int HD are identical (i think), the Cd is in an 'internal' case. Many thks to all. If you can get ahold of the hard disk power cable and SCSI cable from a Mac Quadra 950, they're long and have two or more connectors. Simply setting the CD ROM aside the LC III with either a modified case to let the cables push thru, or running it topless will do the job. Jeff You'd want to be check out wether or not the LC III's power supply has enough juice to run all that. Otherwise bad things could happen!!! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Trouble loading OS 7.6.1 onto a IIci.
-- Original Message -- From: John Niven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:35:20 -0700 I was trying to install OS 7.6.1 from an external CDrom, on a IIci with 20Mb RAM and a 500Mb HD. I successfully booted from the CDrom. The install is supposed to instal 7.6 first then do the 7.6.1 update automatically. However the installer freezes at the end of the first install. When I restart the Mac from the HD it works but is only 7.6. I've used this CD on other (newer) systems and not had this problem (this will be the first IIci). Any ideas? John o could try to run the 7.6.1 updater on it's own. This buried somewhere in the software installers folder on the CD. Also, are you sure that there is enough space avalible on the hard drive? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: wwhat OS for LCIII?
-- Original Message -- From: Don P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:02:29 -0700 (PDT) --- J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/15/03 2:24 PM, williamd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using 32mb ram and a 500mb hd. Just wondering what is the most recent OS I should use? I have 7.6 and have downloaded the update to 7.6.1. Is it my imagination or was there a 7.6.2 before the OS 8? Thanks for any info. bill __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like the choice of 7.5.3. 7.6.1 gives some modern goodies not available in 7.5.3, but the latter uses less RAM and can be modified to include an Appearance extension to make it look like OS 8. Jeff What System Version to Use? May 1999 (http://micro.uoregon.edu/workshops/macoutline/whichsystem.html), gives a rather complete discussion on this matter. They say: System 7.6.1 Any Macintosh model that has 16Mb of memory or more. If with any version of System 7.5.3 or higher, you should update to at least 7.6.1 (or higher) because for you, this system amounts to bug fixes. If you are considering an upgrade to 7.6.1 from 7.5.1 or earlier then moving to 7.6.1 will definitely impact performance in a very noticible way, yet there may not be any features in the new OS that you require. The exceptions being those connected to Ethernet networks can take advantage of the higher transfer speeds of OpenTransport built in to 7.6.1 and higher. Memory requirements for System 7.5.1 can be as low as 2Mb, where 7.6.1 is going to require around triple that. Comments: If you decide to upgrade to System 7.6 from any MacOS version prior to System 7.5.2 be absolutely certain that you update the SCSI drivers on your hard drive. You will be given an option to do this when you run the System software installer. NOTES: Powertalk is not compatible with 7.6. OpenDOC and Cyberdog will not work on 68030 or 68040 based modes. If you do not know what these things are then this warning does not effect you. Don Pruitt Actually, OpenDoc can be made to work on 68K Macs with 7.6.x, however not by using the installers included with the system. What you need to do is download OpenDoc 1.2 from Apple's older software downloads site if you want OpenDoc with 7.6.x. At the time of 7.6, there was a fairly serious problem with an extension called the CFM-68K Runtime Enabler. Due to this Apple decided not to include the extension, or any Apple software that relied on it in the 7.6 release. This problem has scince been fixed, and software that uses this extension (including OpenDoc, CyberDog, LaserWriter 8.4.x 8.5.x from Apple, and Internet Explorer from that other company)can now work on 680x0 Macs. However, there is one extra hurdle to getting OpenDoc, Cyberdog and LW 8.4 on a 7.6 68K system, the included installers only work on Power Macs. Newer installers for OpenDoc and LaserWriter 8.4.x (or 8.5.1)that do work can be downloaded from Apple's Older Software Downloads Page (Thes products include a newer version of the CFM-68K Runtime Enabler). I do not know if or where a version of Cyberdog that would work could be gotten from. Note that the 7.6.1 update included version 4.0 of the CFM-68K Runtime Enabler, which corrected the problems, but did not include any of the Apple software that relied on this extension. WARNING!!! Anyone using System Software 7.1.x or 7.5.x on a 68020, 68030 or 68040 Mac with a version of the CFM-68K Runtime Enabler prior to 4.0 should seriously install version 4.0 to avoid potential system crashes! The extension is also avalible seperatly on the Older Software Downloads Page. P.S. When deciding which OS to run on a LC III, remember that 7.6 takes about twice the RAM and twice the Hard Drive space as 7.5.5. Whilst 7.6's performance would likely be OK, you had better be prepared for the disk space and RAm it would consume. (7.6.1 takes about 70MB of hard drive space and 6-8MB RAM on my Centris 650, whilst 7.5.5 takes about 40MB of disk space, and 4-5MB RAM on either the 650 or a LC II. 7.1.1 on the LC II takes up even less-and is probbly the best choice for performance on '030 Macs, but is a bit light on features. 7.5.5 is, in my opinion, the best compromise between features, space and performance for a 68030 Mac) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:
Re: Unix O/S's for 680x0 chips.
the old tandy color computer series was based off of the 6809 chip and had a nice operating system specifically for that chip: OS-9. it was a unix based system with networking capabilities (however, limited). not sure if this helps. Nightwing wrote: Heya, I've been on the list for a little while now, just generally the quiet, observent, always listening type, blah. Anyways, was just curious what all types of non-MacOS O/S's there is out there for 680x0 cpu's...Preferiably non-MMU based, but if it does need MMU, throw it in anyways and mark it as an MMU one.. Mostly just wanting to see if I can mickey mouse any other O/S's to run on Basilisk II and also I have a IIsi and Plus I want to do something with too. Oh btw, anybody have a monitor that I could use with the IIsi be it free or a reasonable price? Not quite ready to buy yet--loooking around for the moment but for sure will stay in touch if I see something that holds my interest. I also need a cord for connecting a Mac keyboard to the IIsi, and a mouse as well. I've also heard rumors from my younger brother too that I could take a Cat-5 Cable that dosn't have any RJ-45 connector ends on it, and just would have to buy a 3-row CRT connector and a 2-row variant, and can just wire up the pins from connector to connector that way and thus be able to use a PC CRT monitor of any size virtually.. Wouldn't mind hearing any other good theory's similar as well, or more details on the one I just listed. Also--is there a version of Rhapsody that runs on 680x0, and does anyone have a copy of DR2 x86 for purchase, and/or Warez? [No, I am NOT asking you to post any warez of any type to the list, in fact, do not, I simply stated I am personally opened up to the option, feel free to write me directly if it's the case-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a good list and I try to read as much of it as I can, assimilating what knowledge too. Lookin forward to the reply's. Have a better then great one! --Nightwing -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broken apple cd sc plus
why not disconnect the second board and wire that direct to the new cdrom? that should be only 5 soldier points. 8 if you have a volume control Marten van de Kraats wrote: The apple cd sc plus I picked up today does not work. The tray won't pop out. The curious design makes it impossible to just pop in another cd player because head phone port and the cd eject button are not built into the cd but are put on a small separate board. To complicated for me to repair for now. Curious is the lack of a fan. It has just never been there. A metal sheet closes the air hole on the back side where th fan would normally (according to the service manual) have been. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: new toy
i have a quarda 610 that both auto and manually ejects Luis de Santos wrote: What is the fastest CD-ROM unit that can be placed into a Quadra 650? Can a SCSI burner be placed in there? Auto-inject versus manual-inject floppy drives. The auto-inject ones have an open entrance, while the manual ones have a black door. Right? I guess if the front bezel is flat, then is must be auto-inject whereas the ones with a carved notch in the center must be for the manual drives, which require that the disk be pushed all the way in. I think I have that right, but please correct me if I am wrong. I am about to buy a Quadra 650 from a dealer, but he claims it comes with a manual-inject drive. I thought the Quadra 650's came with an auto-inject drive, at least that is what I have read on Usenet. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
yeah, fix it! Phil Marlow wrote: Someone on here has their clock set to August 2004 and it's screwing up my inbox! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: omnipage
what is omnipage? Desert Fox wrote: Yep. Paul/. on 8/12/03 16:36, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: Someone around here has OmniPage, version 3 or lower? It is OCR software. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
screen savers
can anyone recommend any animated screensavers for macos7.5.5? i've been looking but can find any decent ones -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hard disk refuses to mount
well, it mounted and i formated it and all seemed well-- until i did a cold boot. apparantly i have to remount it after each boot. any ideas? Darren wrote: Rusty Shackelford wrote: hdsc is trying to format it now should it take forever? there is no progress bar and it has been working about 15 mins. i'm not sure if it is hung or not Yes it will take some time, disturbing it may also damage the drive. Partioning the drive would have wrote a new partion table so the mac would have asked if you wish to initalize rather than format which is much quicker. You needed a formatting tool to do this. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: alt-tab
ok, just so no-one is confused, i'm not trying to make the make look like windows-- i just thought it would be nice to use a keyboard shortcut to switch between programs. i'm gonnna try lite switch out. as far as wallpaper--i have been having troubles getting the copy and paste thing going, but a friend just gave me his old copy of photoshop1 so i'm about to find out Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: is there a macintosh key combination equivalent to alt-tab in windows? http://www.pure-mac.com/sys.html Check them out yourself. :) Can you and a desktop picture to 7.x ? the aqua theme for Kalidoscope looks good otherwise. Fancy making a mac look like windows, yuck ;) Making a pc look like a mac, now thats worth doing and very nice to look at on linux, buggy though. http://www.pure-mac.com/intutils.html#whatr for whatroute, a handy tpc tool. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New Mac User Seeks Networking Advise
i found the article on asante's site about the cards that don't work with auto-negotiating. although my card's part number isn't listed, it does exhibit all the symptoms- including flashing link lite on the back of the card. Darren wrote: Darren wrote: http://techinfo.asante.com/action.lasso Which doesn't seem to work, try http://techinfo.asante.com/su_sw_int.htm and use the pulldown to select Adapters-10MBit-Internal which will take you to the page mentioned earlier. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
pc/mac net
i just decided the heck with the hub for now and wired a crossover cable direct from the mac to the pc, and then limited the pc to 10mbps. the link light for each card is now lit, but i am still having no luck communication-wise. darren gave me the following settings for the mac: Mactpc = 192.168.0.x, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, domain gotocrystal.net. x = a number between 2 and 254, with alittle room left. Open transport dhcp, router 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, starting domain gotocrystal.net are there any suggestions for the pc end? should i be using certain protocols, and setting my workgroup to specific settings? also, is there a way to make sure the mac is broadcasting-- if windows you can look in network neighborhood and see the computer you are on -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
pc/mac net
i just decided the heck with the hub for now and wired a crossover cable direct from the mac to the pc, and then limited the pc to 10mbps. the link light for each card is now lit, but i am still having no luck communication-wise. darren gave me the following settings for the mac: Mactpc = 192.168.0.x, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, domain gotocrystal.net. x = a number between 2 and 254, with alittle room left. Open transport dhcp, router 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, starting domain gotocrystal.net are there any suggestions for the pc end? should i be using certain protocols, and setting my workgroup to specific settings? also, is there a way to make sure the mac is broadcasting-- if windows you can look in network neighborhood and see the computer you are on -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
rAm
HOW MUCH ram SHOULD I HAVE ? do i need more Ram? is RAm really important? what mHz should my raM run at? what MHZ is right for most MACS? that is how many BICYCLz do i need? Dan Knight wrote: Several topics. Please keep this email handy for future reference. When contacting me about your subscription, please be sure to tell me which list(s) you're on. We run about 30 right now, and I don't have a simple way of finding out what list(s) you may subscribe to. Three rants about capitalization: 1. Memory is RAM, for Random Access Memory. It's not Ram or ram. 2. Cycles are abbreviated Hz in honor of Mr. Hertz. KHz, MHz, and GHz are the correct abbreviations for kilohertz, megahertz, and gigahertz. 3. The computer is a Mac, short for Macintosh. MAC stands for the Machine Address built into ethernet support circuitry. As an editor, it drives me nuts to see these used incorrectly. (I guess you have to be a bit anal to be an editor) We have no control over the bounce messages generated by the Maclaunch server, nor can we manually reset the bounce counter. We cannot access the bounce counter. If you get bounce messages from the list server and your replies are rejected, try removing everything from the subject line except for the number and also deleting the entire body of your reply message. That seems to work. (I don't know why the list server refuses to acknowledge emails with attachments or styled text, but we have no control over that.) Everyone hates spam -- and we can help you fight it. Email addresses at lemlists.com are available for US$6 per year, and we use Spam Assassin to identify and label probable spam. This isn't a challenge-response system. Spam Assassin looks at the email, scores each message based on factors usually found in spam, and clearly marks them as spam in the subject line. However, it doesn't delete the spam -- it knows that it could misidentify a message, so it leaves it up to you to delete your spam. But having messages marked **SPAM** sure helps. Email addresses at lemlists.com are only available to members of our email lists, and the $6/yr helps defray hosting costs for our domains. For those who want more than just an email address, we also offer email addresses, personal Web space, and more at lowendmac.net. An email address is $12/year -- and also protected by Spam Assassin. http://lemlists.com/ for more on LEMlists email accounts. http://lowendmac.net/accounts/index.html for email and more. For the record, I invest about 40 hours a week in Low End Mac and about 20 more working part time at a local camera shop. I don't have enough time to keep tabs on everything in a timely fashion. Sometimes I don't get through the lists for a week or two. That's one of the reasons we have list nannies to help out on the busier lists. If we can generate enough income from LEMlists and lowendmac.net, I can cut back on the camera store job and dedicate more time to Low End Mac, including creating our own mailing list software that will address all of the shortcomings of the current software. Until then, it's mostly a pipe dream. I have the new list manager all outlined, but there just aren't enough hours to do much work on it, especially working 1-1/2 jobs. It's going to be the best thing going when it's done. I'll be able to see what lists you receive by typing in your email address. We'll have a single address database, so I won't have to update several lists when someone's email address changes. We'll be able to strip out the styles from styled text and the attachments, making it that much easier for everyone to post. And we'll even strip the footers that sometimes get quoted, as well as the ads some services add to outbound messages. Like I said, I have very big plans for the list software, but the only way it's going to happen is if I can cut out at least one day a week from my part time job. Signing up for LEMlist or lowendmac.net services is one way you can help that become a reality. Thanks for your support! Dan the listmom -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
i ofund and installed the driver but didnt see any differenence afterwareds i installed PCMAClan on the PC and it claims the mac isnt send any packets. then again, should it be if it doesnt know the other computer is there? Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i just decided the heck with the hub for now and wired a crossover cable direct from the mac to the pc, and then limited the pc to 10mbps. the link light for each card is now lit, but i am still having no luck communication-wise. Did you find which card you have and download the mac installer for it? I believe it will contain some form of diagnostic software along with installing the correct drivers. The Install Guide for every MacCon card is the same .pdf file, page 61 contains some basic graphics from which you can compare and id your board. The MCLC10TIII and the MCiLC-10T both use the same ver 5.6.1 installer and are the closest things to Greggs MacCon-LC which I can't find info for. Its place in the pulldown on the link he proves yeilds nothing except a link to the page I provided earlier where the two names above are closest. Probably why I didn't use it. are there any suggestions for the pc end? should i be using certain protocols, and setting my workgroup to specific settings? You do have ICS installed and running? The ICshare nic will have the default address of 192.168.0.1, the only protocol used is tpc and since the mac doesn't do netbios or smb, by default it ignores workgroup settings. also, is there a way to make sure the mac is broadcasting-- if windows you can look in network neighborhood and see the computer you are on Ping? Unless you have a program like Basilisk, pcmaclan or some whiz bang version of windows that does client and server duties you will not see the mac with the pc, pcmaclan will allow you to see the mac in the network neighborhood if installed. You can use Dave on the mac, in which case you'd need the workgroup name for the mac. ICS shares the internet connection, not files. The two machines are invisable to each other without other software. Setting the mac to recieve the address via dhcp will show you in two ways whether the mac recieves a address or not. Once the mac reboots it should have a 192.168.0.x address in the tcp/ip control panel, a different address means somethings not right (something like a 169.x.x.x) and also means a really long wait before you reach the desktop. I guessed your isp's domain was gotocrystal.net from your return address which may be wrong, if so fixing it may help. Using Winipcfg the domain name you need on the mac is whats in the Hostname box minus the name of the pc you ran Winipcfg on. Clear as mud? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
i did a search for asante on the system and all it comes up with is the files i installed from Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i ofund and installed the driver but didnt see any differenence afterwareds Did it install the asante trouble shooter? i installed PCMAClan on the PC and it claims the mac isnt send any packets. then again, should it be if it doesnt know the other computer is there? yes, its the window that pops up at bootup, so i wont worry about that. i have firewall disabled, file sharing is running and i chose a specific folder to share, and have it set so anyone can see it If its the window that pops up at bootup on the pc, tick the box to disable it. The client side of pcmaclan is looking for a appleshare server which is different to a normal mac with filesharing enabled. Also check any firewall you may have Pcmaclan should find the mac if file sharing is enabled and you have selected a share and given permissions in the user and groups control panel. The address of the mac doesn't seem to be of much concern to appletalk. Provided the mac's card is working properly. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
i read all of chapters 4 and 5, and rean the trouble shoot. the ping-pong test failed and the bandwidth utilization fails as for the trouble shooting checklist at the begining of chapter 5-- i dont how to choose ethertalk phase1 or phase 2, and i dont know which one i should be using either. i dont see any appletalk zones anywhere-- do i need to set these up? and i am not sure that the ethernet driver is properly installed everything else was check Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i did a search for asante on the system and all it comes up with is the files i installed from Check chapter 4 of the installation guide, the macconmlrb.pdf is pretty comprehensive. I'll post it to you if you have trouble downloading from the asante site. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net--NEVER TRUST AUTO SELECT
it is working! i can access pc from mac, mac from pc no ics though. also, do i need pcmaclan or can i get rid of that? if i can dump it, whats the great attraction to it? Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i read all of chapters 4 and 5, and rean the trouble shoot. the ping-pong test failed and the bandwidth utilization fails as for the trouble shooting checklist at the begining of chapter 5-- i dont how to choose ethertalk phase1 or phase 2, and i dont know which one i should be using either. i dont see any appletalk zones anywhere-- do i need to set these up? and i am not sure that the ethernet driver is properly installed everything else was check Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i did a search for asante on the system and all it comes up with is the files i installed from Check chapter 4 of the installation guide, the macconmlrb.pdf is pretty comprehensive. I'll post it to you if you have trouble downloading from the asante site. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net--NEVER TRUST AUTO SELECT
thanks for the help darren and gregg and everyone else, it seems to be mostly working now! Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: it is working! i can access pc from mac, mac from pc no ics though. also, do i need pcmaclan or can i get rid of that? if i can dump it, whats the great attraction to it? Using winipcfg find the address for your ip's dns servers, make note of them and try them in the tcp/ip CP's dns box. I think I've given you a linux configuration rather than a ICS config. Opp's :) http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=230151 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New Mac User Seeks Networking Advise
okay- its an asante card (Asante Tech, INC (c) 1993 MCLC Rev A) there are two numbers present on what seems to be the chipset - lc20028 and 4l02f2664 i'm using a test, working, non-crossover cable and am using no special drives. the ethernet option does show up under tcp ip Darren wrote: Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Adam Cora Dietrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the card in and the mac acknowledges that i now have an ethernet card. However, on my 10/100 hub there is nothing lit up to acknowledge that the mac is there. Fiddling with the software will get you nowhere until you have a lit up Link light for the port the Mac is connected to. Interesting, there's a 5500 and a 7220 here that wont light up a thing without the correct driver which also means no conflicts. While simply unplugging the cable from another machine and testing the mac with that should rule out a cable problem. Aren't Uplink ports usually marked well enough? Without knowing if ethernet is an option in any of the control panels I dont see how you can go past software - the mac acknowledges that i now have an ethernet - doesn't mean very much to me, once we had the brand and model of the nic and therefore know what driver may or not be needed. I figured you'd nut out the hardware from there. :) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New Mac User Seeks 10bt Hub
this is the hub i am looking at. any objections? Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: okay- its an asante card (Asante Tech, INC (c) 1993 MCLC Rev A) there are two numbers present on what seems to be the chipset - lc20028 and 4l02f2664 i'm using a test, working, non-crossover cable and am using no special drives. the ethernet option does show up under tcp ip -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New Mac User Seeks Networking Advise
I got the card in and the mac acknowledges that i now have an ethernet card. However, on my 10/100 hub there is nothing lit up to acknowledge that the mac is there. Someone sent settings for MacTCP. I don't seem to have this. I do, however, have TCP/IP in the control panel. Is this the same? is that the only place i put in these settings? Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: I got a LC520 running system 7.5.5. I got a pds ethernet card coming in the mail (probably tomorrow) and am looking for advice for connecting this to my existing 10/100 pc lan. i am currently running TCP/IP and NetBEUI on the lan, with ICS. Wow, a post that has something to do with vintage macs. Mactpc = 192.168.0.x, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, domain gotocrystal.net. x = a number between 2 and 254, with alittle room left. Open transport dhcp, router 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, starting domain gotocrystal.net both work with ICS, a static address may be perfered if you boot the mac without the network, saves the loong wait while OT tries and fails to find a ip address. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New Mac User Seeks Networking Advise
Is is normal that if the card doesn't know its speed limit or whatever, that it wouldn't light the link lite on the hub? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
New Mac User Seeks Networking Advise
I got a LC520 running system 7.5.5. I got a pds ethernet card coming in the mail (probably tomorrow) and am looking for advice for connecting this to my existing 10/100 pc lan. i am currently running TCP/IP and NetBEUI on the lan, with ICS. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
New Mac User Seeks Anti- Virus Software
I also will need some antivirus software that will run on the LC 520. Any suggestion? Also, any good photoshop clones? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple
Adam, are you listening? Do you know how I know it is you? Yes, because your posts always show up from the day or two before the current date. I have been out all evening and just got home. Indeed I am (listening, that it). I conceed my computer's date is often out of synch (despite a new CMOS battery, the Real Time Clock is dead - anyone want to buy me a new PC? Anyone?) However, under my Outlook, mail is always stamped with the time it arrives so I'm going to take your word that the forged posts follow the time sync of my machine. I would like to point out however, that I've been a member of this list on and off since the days when it was one with the Compact Macs list. That would be a period of some _years_ during which I've been nothing other than a good citizen, thank you very much. I've also been subscribed to Compact Macs, PowerBooks and Outback Macs over a similar time-frame, and I _defy_ you or anyone else to find a single person in any of those lists who will say something bad about me. I also write a column for the Low End Mac website (altough, admittedly, my output rate has decayed to something like 1 article/year) and have far better things to do with my time then post a whole lot of fake nonsense everywhere, just to annoy the very people who have bailed my arse out time after time after time whenever I've had trouble with one of my Macs Flipping through all the email 'from' you, I notice that the last two messages have a X-Original-Message-Id at [EMAIL PROTECTED], while your 'normal' messages are tagged as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or something similar) From what I know of the internet, I'd say you were the victim of SMTP fakemail (top spammers use nothing else!) and your actual email account is safe. I should point out that that applies only to the last two emails, the Oohhh! I'm sorry sir... and Oh No! I'm digging my own grave ones. The emails where you so graciously asked Joseph to Fuck off and get out! and asked that piece of dogshit Gregg if it would be too much trouble to get [his] shit...discussion off the list seem very real, originate right from you, and IMO are sufficient to get you banned right there. So, did I do this? No. Was my machine used? Well, though it lives in a semi-public environment at uni, I think the probablility of someone coming in, turning it on, reading through my mail and then sending fakemail to selected induviduals hovers somewhere between The moon is actually made of cheese and Saddam Hussein is alive, well and currently playing roulette in Monaco. I have no explanation whatsoever for the dates. I'd like to say something like someones trying to destroy my life by making people on the net really, really mad at me, but I'd step in front of a bus before I allowed words that retarded to pass my lips. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Applescripting ( Glueing Macs back together)
Back to the point, from where would you get ABS glue? From a plumbing shop Many plastic items have an international recycling code icon somewhere, usually on the outside for utilitarian stuff like milk jugs and on the inside of parts that won't be recycled for years if ever. Thanks for all that, especially the bit about recycling codes - I was going to crib bits of plastic from my dead Epson 500, before I saw that it was made of Polystyrene. I assume that PowerBooks are ABS, but I'll look for a code later today. If it is ABS, I'll probably buy one of those ABS project cases from Dick Smith's (read: Radio Shack) and use that. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad
For instance, if a computer has 2 MB on the motherboard and accepts two 4 MB SIMMs (but nothing larger), there's no reason in the world to create ROMs that can support more than 10 MB. There's a huge reason *not* to make a ROM that only supports 10 MB when it's clear that larger SIMMs are going to come into play within a few months... If this limitation is the the ROM thanks to our friends at Apple, and if it is patchable by someone with the necessary skills, why wouldn't Connectix or someone come out with such a patch. I'm sure they would have sold by the truckload. Unless of course they feared the wrath of Steve (or whoever...) Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Applescripting ( Glueing Macs back together)
ABS glue backed up with a piece of flat ABS sheet for strength. The glue actually partially dissolves the plastic so it makes a very strong bond. You'll need to remove any paint or other coating from the inside surface where the backing sheet will be. I was considering using a metal backing sheet, possibly using screws. (FWIW, It's the frame the supports the trackpad click button that's broken.) I think I like your suggestion of ABS plastic better, and I should get a better bond glueing plastic/plastic than metal/plastic. That and most metal sheets tend to flex. Unfortunately, I had a slip of the fingers whilst doing the disassembly and managed to smash one of those damn little connectors that the keyboard plugs into. Since I'm not going to brave surface mount soldering on the scale required to replace the thing in such cramped confines, this will entail messy repair with my chosen glue, possibly without the benefit of a backing sheet (given the size of the thing.) Back to the point, from where would you get ABS glue? Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Glueing Macs back together
ABS glue backed up with a piece of flat ABS sheet for strength. The glue actually partially dissolves the plastic so it makes a very strong bond. You'll need to remove any paint or other coating from the inside surface where the backing sheet will be. Sorry, I forgot to ask... If I was to do this, could I safely consider the repair to be permanent? Once I stick it all back together, I plan on selling the 3400, and I don't plan on taking someone's money only to have the thing break on them a few weeks or months down the track. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Applescripting ( Glueing Macs back together)
New face here. Just picked up a couple of IIci's for play learning. Adam, have you considered something like QuickKeys (haven't used it) or Tempo II Plus? The latter was more a scripter than macro recorder. Thanks for the suggestions :) I haven't used either before, but I'll start scouring abandonware sites for them and see what they can do. Now for something else... If you had to glue some Mac plastics back together (minor interior damage in my 3400) what type would you use? I tried superglue, but it didn't hold (probaby due to the tiny contact area). I was thinking of Araldyte or something similar??? Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
AppleScripting
I not sure that this belongs here, but can anyone recommend a decent (free? online?) guide to AppleScript and/or give me an idea of what it's capable of - particularly in terms of automating 68k web browsers. I use my IIfx to hook up into the http front-end of my employer's server farm and hope to automate the process of clicking a half dozen links and filling in a stupid form every time I do so. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad
. Additionally, the Mac II had a maximum RAM of 128 MB. The LC goes up to 10 MB.What's up with that? It's not even a power of 2. Apple must have done something seriously stupid in the ROM and/or the memory map, because that's not the kind of number you're likely to get from a hardware limitation. The 10Mb RAM limit was deliberately programmed into the LC's ASICs. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad
Additionally, the Mac II had a maximum RAM of 128 MB. The LC goes up to 10 MB. snip The 10Mb RAM limit was deliberately programmed into the LC's ASICs. Which says to me patch it! There *has* to be a way to patch that ROM in software to get around the limitation. That would rock, but, is the limitation actually programmed into the ROM? Or is it built into the memory controller or some other inaccessable location? Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: new 68k for Dad
On some platforms you'd run a degrader of some sort. Doesn't one exist for the mac? There is one I'm pretty sure, but I can't for the life of me remember what it's called. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Sherman, set the Wayback Machine...
I made a Word document into a diary w/a password that I have been trying to figure out since 1990! Would be a KICK to go back and read what mind-blowing stuff was troubling me back when i was 20! ;-) You could probably find something to crack those files open. I had a tool like that for PC WordPerfect files, and it saved my butt on more than one occasion. Hmmm... I think anything else would probably fall into the category of worthless %*@: - like the little freeware app that turned the apple in the Menu Item into a revolving globe ...etc, etc, snip I can't imagine anyone compiling a list of silly applications with out at least a passing reference to the Talking Moose. Pretty much any archive of old Mac programs should have it... Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Sherman, set the Wayback Machine...
Gosh, no one has any suggestions regarding my original question? If you went back in time to the System 6 days, what utilities, system software, applications, and other cool stuff would you set your machine up with? What stuff would you guys consider essential, or really useful, or at least really cool? Well, on my Plus(es) I used MS Works 2.0a for most productivity stuff. (read: calling BBSes using the Comms component, cause doing so on the Plus was just so cool...). Anyway, you get WP, SpreadSheet, Comms and a flat-file Database. Basic, useful, rather slick, and it all fits on an 800K diskette with room for your files. Looking back on apps like that, I often wonder is 90% or so of modern program code is just random garbage, designed as filler to help 'encourage' you to purchase this year's new computer. -Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
LC V?!?!?!?
Hi all, I was just looking through Dana Sibera's (an Outback Macs list subscriber) website, which at http://dana.jaime.com/dana.html mentions that she was given an LC V complete with a picture. Has does anyone have any idea what this thing is Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS
Well, that may have been true earlier, but the newer versions of PC-DOS were (IMHO) far superior to Microsoft's offerings, especially since MS-DOS 7 was never a full product (Version of DOS Win95 is run on top of, missing most utilities included in MS-DOS 6.22) I know this is getting way OT, but wasn't Digital Research's DR-DOS the best DOS of it's type. IIRC it was the first with memory optimisation, protected mode and the only DOS to reallyy exploit the extra features of the 286 processor. I also once read that bugs in said 286 processor prevented DR-DOS from running properly and hurt it chances... Cheers, Adam -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS
OK, don't forget PC-DOS from IBM.. Actually, PC-DOS was MS-DOS rebranded by IBM. Unsurprisingly, MS-DOS was actually Seattle Computer Products 86-DOS acquired and rebranded by Microsoft, which was also called QDOS (Quick Dirty DOS.) I didn't have time to do it right, so I did it quick and dirty - 86/Q/MS-DOS creator Tim Paterson. Cheers, Adam. Lieing Theifing C**ts, I lost my f***ing house!!! F*** YOU DOGS!! -Another satisfied customer of my employer (actual spelling) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
FREE Vintage Macs
Hi all, I got this from the OpenBSD Mac 68K mailing list (see www.openbsd.org for details) and thought that you'd all be intrested: - Original Message - From: Lubo Diakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 10:51 AM Subject: Quick Note about 68K Macs Just thought members of this list (or any OpenBSD type list that delves into older computers (and Macs specifically) ) might want to know this: http://www.refurbmadness.com/ is offering 68K Macs for only the price of shipping (computers for free!) Right now they have Mac IIci, IIcx, IIsi and LC II Some of these (IIsi and LC II that I know of) will require additional FRU or PMMU for OpenBSD, but hey free is free (minus shipping of course) I have no affiliation with refurbmadness, I just wanted to pass this along. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Viruses
Geez, at least the old viruses were clever. NVIR A (I had it for a while, didn't know it) caused the computer to bong twice on bootup, and would sometimes take hold of the speech synthesizer and say something to the effect of Don't Worry or Be Calm. I think it said Don't Panic, though only if you had MacinTalk installed. My Macs were heavily infested with nVir B, from when I bought my first Plus in 1996 until earlier this year when I got an SE/30 with SAM on the hard disk and cleaned out all my floppies. Nothing out of the ordinary ever happened over those 4+ years... Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
A/UX on CD (was: Re: A/UX site...)
Now that I think of it, wasn't someone here going to press A/UX onto CD for the benefit of the low-bandwidth masses (like me)? Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
A/UX site...
Hi, Once in my extensive collection of miscellaneous bookmarks, I had the URL to a site which had A/UX for download in addition to some good pages about it. If I remeber correctly, the URL or title contained the word bottle or something... Does anyone know where this site is? Cheers, Adam -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: serial connection between an old Mac and a Sun IPX
Heh, I thought I was the only one with a SparcStation IPX that I wanted to hook up to a Mac. I messed around with this a couple of months, and it is possible, but you need a serial cable that supports hardware-handshaking (IIRC). My standard Mac Serial Cable doesn't do this, bu I have a Mac to PC serial cable that does work. Give me a day or two to look it up, but IIRC, the IPX and Mac serial ports are for all intents and purposes, the same. I know I was able to hook my IPX up to my PC with a Mac-to-PC serial cable. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: What is this keyboard?
Outwardly, it looks identical to a Malaysian one I have but the keys are quite different. -[ snip ]- I've seen one or two of those before, but I forget what they were designed for. -[ snip ]- Maybe for some terminal emulator program? That's my guess, either that or for a POS application. I remember seeing a compact Mac being used at a hotel check-in desk on some TV show, and alot of those things have special keyboards, but I can't really think of any real use for the mods you describe Maybe the blank keys had a special function when hooked to some mainframe...? Seems like alot of effort though... Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Graphics program for LC2/CC
Hi, Can anyone recommend a decent (free/abandonware) program do display and perform basic manipulation of images on a LC II / Colour Classic-class machine. The formats I was hoping to view/edit are gif, jpeg and (very optionally) bmp. Also, does anyone have any experiences in converting gifs to PICTs on any platform? I tried to do that on my PC with PaintShop Pro, but the colours were _completely_ whacked out. (Like psychadellic ma.) Finally, I too would like to offer my sympathies over the New York/Washington attack. Even here in Australia, the event is receiving live, 24-hour coverage on the TV. I also hope that these people don't bring on the next war. Peace, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Stupid email trick warning.
Hi all, Today I got an email from one Steven Pinette entitles Dialog letter june. The text of this letter reads: Hi! How are you? I send you this file in order to have your advice See you later. Thanks Rather lame English, huh? Examination of the attached letter reveals it to be a file entitled Dialog letter june.doc.pif. On a MSDOS/Windows PC, the .pif extension identifies a file as being a Program Information File, that is a file that provides Windows with instructions to run a given DOS program, and the parameters with which to do so. I'd be willing to bet that in this case, the PIF file instructs the PC to run, say format c: /q y. In another words this is undoubtably a trojan of some sort. The reason I'm mentioning this on the list, is because I use this email address exclusively for list correspondence and eBay sales, so there is a fair chance that a malicious user could be harvesting email addresses from these lists in some lame attempt to be some sort of cYb3r733r0r1s7 just like in the newspapers. This thing won't affect Macs, but I'm not the only one who uses a PC here so look out. Anyone who wants a forward of this email is welcome to it. P.S. In a couple of days I'll be nuking my PC's hard drives so I might just take the time to see exactly what this thing does. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DTMF Re: Drain Crawler
Stripped down versions often came with answering machines for remote control, those were popular with hackers since with a little work they could do the same things as the more expensive DTMF dialers. :) These tone diallers were/are also popular with what alot of people call 'hackers' as some types (most notoriously the Radio Shack ones) can be re-crystalled and then used to defraud the coin tolling system used in American payphones. Such a modified device is called a red box. Unfortunately, the 'bot doesn't respond to DTMF tones, rather it responds to single and compund tones in the 1000-2800Hz range. If I can find a tone generation util, I'll try it, otherwise I'll just have to substitute my PC's Creative AWE-32. Also, IIRC, HyperCard 1.(something) could also be used to dial a phone number directly trough the modem. In this case you could hook up your rotary phone (Geez, I'm 18 and I remember these) and your Plus' modem in series and enjoy Mac controlled DTMF. Neat. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Vintage Mac Sound.
Hi all, THE STORY: I recently got my hands on a decommisioned drain crawler which is a type of human controlled, robotic sled originally designed to travel up and down the stormwater/sewerage drainage system in search of cracks and what-not. Thinking this would be a cool thing to mess around with, I picked it up even though it lacks its controller unit. This isn't to much of a problem as it receives it's control instructions through a set of audio tones sent over a cable link, with each tone manipulating a certain function. In a week or so I'll be getting the chart that says what tones operate what so that's no problem. THE POINT: Where this becomes relevant to the list is that I'm planning on digging out my old PowerBook 100 and using it to generate the necessary tones and control the robot. I plan on hooking a cable to the audio-out jack and wiring this to the robot. The only problem is that the robot's control circuits have pretty tight tolerances on what tone quality is acceptable, so my question is: Just how clean a tone can the PB 100 or average Vintage Mac's sound system produce? For example, if I programmed the '100 to produce a 1500Hz tone, how likely is the result to be 1500Hz as opposed to something 200Hz or so around it? Sorry for this rambling post, especially as it likely makes no sense but these 5am starts at work are getting to me. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com