Re: New iMacs ?

[Daniel Kerr]

Yes, actually, I looked earlier after my post, and they’re not there anymore.
Perhaps I was just lucky enough to order some via a wholesaler to keep some. :) 
I think I’ll ensure to save one,…hehe :)
Though it’s not listed as EOL (End of Life)…so who would know at the moment.
Sorry about that. If you do need one (and are looking at a new iMac), then let 
me know as I can source them as well. :)

Kind regards
Daniel

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> On 9 Jun 2017, at 5:49 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Daniel and Neil.
> However I did check under “accessories” on the Apple website and they are no 
> longer listed.
> So it would seem cannot be bought even on their own.
> 
> 
>> On 9 Jun 2017, at 4:07 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, that works too. :)
>> Though they don’t have USB ports on each side like a normal USB Keyboard. :)
>> (though they’re still only USB1.1 from memory on the ends…so kinda slow for 
>> most things).
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
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>>> On 9 Jun 2017, at 4:01 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well
>>> 
>>> Thinking laterally.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The new wireless keyboards are charged via the lightning port (rather than 
>>> like my old one with removable rechargeable batteries)  and, unlike the 
>>> mouse, it can still be used whilst charging...
>>> 
>>> So if you leave the keyboard plugged in haven’t you got a wired keyboard 
>>> with battery back-up ??!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just a thought  ;o)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> -- 
>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> on 9/6/17 13:06, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks.
 
 I have been awaiting the arrival of these.
 But I am a little dismayed that there is no wired keyboard option.
 I even checked in Apple accessories and they have been removed from there 
 too.
 
 I don’t really care for charging stuff when it can simply be plugged in.
 It’s not like the iMacs are portable.
 
 In fact I wish Apple would produce a wired Magic Mouse !
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
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Re: New iMacs ?

[Stephen Chape]

Thanks Daniel and Neil.
However I did check under “accessories” on the Apple website and they are no 
longer listed.
So it would seem cannot be bought even on their own.


> On 9 Jun 2017, at 4:07 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that works too. :)
> Though they don’t have USB ports on each side like a normal USB Keyboard. :)
> (though they’re still only USB1.1 from memory on the ends…so kinda slow for 
> most things).
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
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> MacWizardry
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> 
>> On 9 Jun 2017, at 4:01 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> 
>> Well
>> 
>> Thinking laterally.  
>> 
>> 
>> The new wireless keyboards are charged via the lightning port (rather than 
>> like my old one with removable rechargeable batteries)  and, unlike the 
>> mouse, it can still be used whilst charging...
>> 
>> So if you leave the keyboard plugged in haven’t you got a wired keyboard 
>> with battery back-up ??!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just a thought  ;o)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 9/6/17 13:06, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> I have been awaiting the arrival of these.
>>> But I am a little dismayed that there is no wired keyboard option.
>>> I even checked in Apple accessories and they have been removed from there 
>>> too.
>>> 
>>> I don’t really care for charging stuff when it can simply be plugged in.
>>> It’s not like the iMacs are portable.
>>> 
>>> In fact I wish Apple would produce a wired Magic Mouse !
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
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Re: New iMacs ?

[Daniel Kerr]

Yes, that works too. :)
Though they don’t have USB ports on each side like a normal USB Keyboard. :)
(though they’re still only USB1.1 from memory on the ends…so kinda slow for 
most things).
Kind regards
Daniel

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> On 9 Jun 2017, at 4:01 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Well
> 
> Thinking laterally.  
> 
> 
> The new wireless keyboards are charged via the lightning port (rather than 
> like my old one with removable rechargeable batteries)  and, unlike the 
> mouse, it can still be used whilst charging...
> 
> So if you leave the keyboard plugged in haven’t you got a wired keyboard with 
> battery back-up ??!!
> 
> 
> 
> Just a thought  ;o)
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 9/6/17 13:06, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> I have been awaiting the arrival of these.
>> But I am a little dismayed that there is no wired keyboard option.
>> I even checked in Apple accessories and they have been removed from there 
>> too.
>> 
>> I don’t really care for charging stuff when it can simply be plugged in.
>> It’s not like the iMacs are portable.
>> 
>> In fact I wish Apple would produce a wired Magic Mouse !
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
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Re: New iMacs ?

[Neil Houghton]

Well

Thinking laterally.


The new wireless keyboards are charged via the lightning port (rather than
like my old one with removable rechargeable batteries)  and, unlike the
mouse, it can still be used whilst charging...

So if you leave the keyboard plugged in haven¹t you got a wired keyboard
with battery back-up ??!!



Just a thought  ;o)



Cheers




Neil
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on 9/6/17 13:06, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

> Hi folks.
> 
> I have been awaiting the arrival of these.
> But I am a little dismayed that there is no wired keyboard option.
> I even checked in Apple accessories and they have been removed from there too.
> 
> I don¹t really care for charging stuff when it can simply be plugged in.
> It¹s not like the iMacs are portable.
> 
> In fact I wish Apple would produce a wired Magic Mouse !
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 


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Re: New iMacs ?

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Stephen

You can still buy them separately. I just ordered some more to keep for clients.
(and I swap them around if they require them separately). They actually came 
down in price to $69 (from $75).
It’s just not as a “build to order” option on the site. 
But there are “ways around it” :))

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Daniel

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> On 9 Jun 2017, at 1:06 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> I have been awaiting the arrival of these.
> But I am a little dismayed that there is no wired keyboard option.
> I even checked in Apple accessories and they have been removed from there too.
> 
> I don’t really care for charging stuff when it can simply be plugged in.
> It’s not like the iMacs are portable.
> 
> In fact I wish Apple would produce a wired Magic Mouse !
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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New iMacs ?

[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks.

I have been awaiting the arrival of these.
But I am a little dismayed that there is no wired keyboard option.
I even checked in Apple accessories and they have been removed from there too.

I don’t really care for charging stuff when it can simply be plugged in.
It’s not like the iMacs are portable.

In fact I wish Apple would produce a wired Magic Mouse !

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New iMacs closer

[Alan Smith]

Apple on-line store now shows 3-4 weeks for delivery of 27 iMacs, and 7-10 
business days for the 21.5 models.

3-4 weeks feels a lot better than January somehow!

Cheers
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Re: New iMacs closer

[Ronda Brown]

I had one of the new 27-inch iMacs CTO delivered last Thursday 3 Jan. 2013.
I am doing the Transfer and Setup from his old iMac running Snow Leopard to his 
beautiful new 27-inch  iMac Mountain Lion either later today or tomorrow 
morning.

I don't want any thunderstorms to interrupt the Transfer and Setup!

Cheers,
Ronni

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 business days for the 21.5 models.
 
 3-4 weeks feels a lot better than January somehow!
 
 Cheers
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Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Ashley Mulder]

Thing about this software on MPB is that the software looks at the hdd temp, 
which rarely gets above 35deg
with the fan running at 1000rpm, cpu temps climb a little bit, but the speed 
doesnt increase as temp increases as the hdd temp stays fairly similar
suffice to say its probably being removed (the software that is)


On 14/05/2011, at 11:42 AM, Ashley Mulder wrote:

 Just installed on my macbook pro 5,1
 
 with no HDD fan, the software controls my right fan (as reported by istat 
 menus)
 left is running at normal 2000rpm, while right is running at 1000rpm as set 
 by the software
 threshold limits will tell me soon enough if this causes my MBP to run hot, 
 as the right fan should kick into 6000rpm mode at about 50deg
 
 should be interesting to see how this goes running at ambientalready 
 noticed a minor noise drop
 will test when running graphics intensive stuff to see how well it responds
 
 
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Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Daniel Kerr]

On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party-
 is-not-an-option/
 OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new iMacs
 by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011
 
 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing affordable
 upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a third
 party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs.
 Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that removing
 the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause the
 hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third party
 drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test, even
 if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped with.
 Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve of,
 locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the hard
 drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair center.
 We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many tend
 keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is guaranteed
 to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve removing the
 screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal drive,
 I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average custom
 
 
 
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy  Sam¹s Dad


Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day.
I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from other
brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some are
saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg
480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track.
What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or
you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying what
Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places). eg,
even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as
Western Digital (and others make them).

This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've been
reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or
something for it.
I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been able
to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you
wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now.

This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that
Apple are doing. 
Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's
(eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no)
stock.
(I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at
that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well
whatever may start from it,...lol).
I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big
picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol.

Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,... :o))

Kind regards
Daniel
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Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Rod Lavington]

Easy answer -  $$$

:)

Seeya

Rod
On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:




 On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:


http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party-
 is-not-an-option/
 OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new
iMacs
 by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011

 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing
affordable
 upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a
third
 party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs.
 Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that
removing
 the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will
cause the
 hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third
party
 drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test,
even
 if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped
with.
 Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve
of,
 locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the
hard
 drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair
center.
 We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many
tend
 keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is
guaranteed
 to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve
removing the
 screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal
drive,
 I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average
custom



 Rod Blitvich - Amy  Sam¹s Dad


 Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day.
 I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from
other
 brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some
are
 saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg
 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track.
 What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or
 you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying
what
 Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places).
eg,
 even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as
 Western Digital (and others make them).

 This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've
been
 reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or
 something for it.
 I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been
able
 to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you
 wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now.

 This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that
 Apple are doing.
 Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's
 (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no)
 stock.
 (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at
 that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well
 whatever may start from it,...lol).
 I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big
 picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol.

 Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,...
:o))

 Kind regards
 Daniel
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Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Daniel Kerr]

Well yes, apart from that Mr Smartie :P lol :)

Kind regards
Daniel


On 13/5/11 7:29 PM, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Easy answer -  $$$
 
 :)
 
 Seeya
 
 Rod
 On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 
 
 
 On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party-
 is-not-an-option/
 OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new
 iMacs
 by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011
 
 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing
 affordable
 upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a
 third
 party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs.
 Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that
 removing
 the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will
 cause the
 hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third
 party
 drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test,
 even
 if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped
 with.
 Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve
 of,
 locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the
 hard
 drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair
 center.
 We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many
 tend
 keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is
 guaranteed
 to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve
 removing the
 screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal
 drive,
 I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average
 custom
 
 
 
 Rod Blitvich - Amy  Sam¹s Dad
 
 
 Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day.
 I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from
 other
 brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some
 are
 saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg
 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track.
 What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or
 you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying
 what
 Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places).
 eg,
 even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as
 Western Digital (and others make them).
 
 This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've
 been
 reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or
 something for it.
 I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been
 able
 to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you
 wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now.
 
 This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that
 Apple are doing.
 Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's
 (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no)
 stock.
 (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at
 that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well
 whatever may start from it,...lol).
 I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big
 picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol.
 
 Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,...
 :o))
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 ---
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 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
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Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Ronda Brown]

Are Apple becoming 'Greedy' chasing the dollar ... Or just wanting more control 
over what goes in their hardware?

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 13/05/2011, at 8:27 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 
 Well yes, apart from that Mr Smartie :P lol :)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 13/5/11 7:29 PM, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Easy answer -  $$$
 
 :)
 
 Seeya
 
 Rod
 On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 
 
 
 On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party-
 is-not-an-option/
 OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new
 iMacs
 by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011
 
 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing
 affordable
 upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a
 third
 party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs.
 Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that
 removing
 the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will
 cause the
 hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third
 party
 drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test,
 even
 if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped
 with.
 Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve
 of,
 locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the
 hard
 drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair
 center.
 We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many
 tend
 keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is
 guaranteed
 to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve
 removing the
 screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal
 drive,
 I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average
 custom
 
 
 
 Rod Blitvich - Amy  Sam’s Dad
 
 
 Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day.
 I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from
 other
 brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some
 are
 saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg
 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track.
 What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or
 you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying
 what
 Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places).
 eg,
 even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as
 Western Digital (and others make them).
 
 This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've
 been
 reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or
 something for it.
 I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been
 able
 to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you
 wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now.
 
 This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that
 Apple are doing.
 Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's
 (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no)
 stock.
 (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at
 that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well
 whatever may start from it,...lol).
 I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big
 picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol.
 
 Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,...
 :o))
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
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Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Rod Lavington]

They want the imac buyers to be on a similar upgrade cycle to the iOS buyer
;)  Or provides a new revenue stream for the Apple Genius bar!

Cheers

Rod
On May 13, 2011 9:05 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Are Apple becoming 'Greedy' chasing the dollar ... Or just wanting more
control over what goes in their hardware?

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad

 On 13/05/2011, at 8:27 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:


 Well yes, apart from that Mr Smartie :P lol :)

 Kind regards
 Daniel


 On 13/5/11 7:29 PM, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Easy answer - $$$

 :)

 Seeya

 Rod
 On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:




 On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:



http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party-
 is-not-an-option/
 OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in
new
 iMacs
 by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011

 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing
 affordable
 upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a
 third
 party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs.
 Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that
 removing
 the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will
 cause the
 hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any
third
 party
 drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware
Test,
 even
 if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is
shipped
 with.
 Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't
approve
 of,
 locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to
the
 hard
 drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair
 center.
 We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many
 tend
 keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is
 guaranteed
 to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve
 removing the
 screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the
internal
 drive,
 I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average
 custom



 Rod Blitvich - Amy  Sam’s Dad


 Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day.
 I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from
 other
 brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though
some
 are
 saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives
eg
 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track.
 What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies
(or
 you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying
 what
 Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or
places).
 eg,
 even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this
as
 Western Digital (and others make them).

 This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've
 been
 reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or
 something for it.
 I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been
 able
 to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you
 wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now.

 This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things
that
 Apple are doing.
 Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of
iPad's
 (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or
no)
 stock.
 (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it
at
 that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well
 whatever may start from it,...lol).
 I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some
big
 picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol.

 Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,...
 :o))

 Kind regards
 Daniel
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Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Ronni

I'd say yes to the first.
The second I can't see what difference it would make to them. Normally a
hard drive is a hard drive (I know there are differences between them with
models and specs and speeds and features), so I don't really understand
this one.
I can't see what impact it would have to Apple what goes in it. I mean, if
someone tries to install a hard drive themselves and doesn't follow all the
Correct procedures and fries something then goes off about Apple gear,
then sure I'd understand.
But if the likes of a service centre or qualified repairer is doing it,
surely they should be allowed the option to say ,...well, it's out of
warranty so here are your options to replace the drive.
And sometimes you don't always buy the best of a machine up front you get
what you can afford for now and might add or change it in a year or so. Plus
technologies change - so you might start with a 1TB drive now and get a 3TB
drive when they're cheaper (or a 4TB drive when it comes out.).
Again, this is just a hard drive so it shouldn't have an affect on the
overall performance of the machine. Or the internal components.

And what has changed so much from the pervious version iMac to the new iMac
that they've now said,..yep we need to change the way the hard drive does
this and stop after market upgrades.

Will be interesting to see what more unfolds from this

I'm guessing your reply came in the ads for 'the pies' :oP hehehe :)

Kind regards
Daniel



On 13/5/11 9:01 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 Are Apple becoming 'Greedy' chasing the dollar ... Or just wanting more
 control over what goes in their hardware?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 13/05/2011, at 8:27 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Well yes, apart from that Mr Smartie :P lol :)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 13/5/11 7:29 PM, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Easy answer -  $$$
 
 :)
 
 Seeya
 
 Rod
 On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 
 
 
 On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-part
 y-
 is-not-an-option/
 OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new
 iMacs
 by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011
 
 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing
 affordable
 upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a
 third
 party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs.
 Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that
 removing
 the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will
 cause the
 hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third
 party
 drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test,
 even
 if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped
 with.
 Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve
 of,
 locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the
 hard
 drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair
 center.
 We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many
 tend
 keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is
 guaranteed
 to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve
 removing the
 screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal
 drive,
 I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average
 custom
 
 
 
 Rod Blitvich - Amy  Sam¹s Dad
 
 
 Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day.
 I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from
 other
 brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some
 are
 saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg
 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track.
 What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or
 you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying
 what
 Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places).
 eg,
 even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as
 Western Digital (and others make them).
 
 This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've
 been
 reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or
 something for it.
 I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been
 able
 to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you
 wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now.
 
 This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that
 Apple are doing.
 Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's
 (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no)
 stock.
 (I was going to go on a bit more detail

Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Pedro]

Someone will always come with an answer

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/13/hdd-fan-control-software-addresses-imac-hard-drive-replacement-i/

Cheers

Pedro


Sent from my iPad 


On 13/05/2011, at 19:29, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Easy answer -  $$$
 
 :)
 
 Seeya
 
 Rod
 
 On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
  
  
  
  
  On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
  
  http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party-
  is-not-an-option/
  OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new 
  iMacs
  by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011
  
  The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing 
  affordable
  upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a third
  party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs.
  Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that 
  removing
  the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause 
  the
  hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third 
  party
  drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test, 
  even
  if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped 
  with.
  Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve 
  of,
  locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the 
  hard
  drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair 
  center.
  We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many tend
  keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is 
  guaranteed
  to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve removing 
  the
  screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal 
  drive,
  I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average 
  custom
  
  
  
  Rod Blitvich - Amy  Sam¹s Dad
  
  
  Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day.
  I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from other
  brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some are
  saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg
  480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track.
  What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or
  you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying what
  Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places). eg,
  even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as
  Western Digital (and others make them).
  
  This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've been
  reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or
  something for it.
  I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been able
  to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you
  wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now.
  
  This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that
  Apple are doing. 
  Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's
  (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no)
  stock.
  (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at
  that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well
  whatever may start from it,...lol).
  I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big
  picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol.
  
  Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,... :o))
  
  Kind regards
  Daniel
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  MacWizardry
  
  Phone: 0414 795 960
  Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
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Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Ashley Mulder]

Just installed on my macbook pro 5,1

with no HDD fan, the software controls my right fan (as reported by istat menus)
left is running at normal 2000rpm, while right is running at 1000rpm as set by 
the software
threshold limits will tell me soon enough if this causes my MBP to run hot, as 
the right fan should kick into 6000rpm mode at about 50deg

should be interesting to see how this goes running at ambientalready 
noticed a minor noise drop
will test when running graphics intensive stuff to see how well it responds


Ash
On 14/05/2011, at 9:58 AM, Pedro wrote:

 Someone will always come with an answer
 
 http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/13/hdd-fan-control-software-addresses-imac-hard-drive-replacement-i/
 
 Cheers
 
 Pedro
 
 
 Sent from my iPad 
 
 

Ashley Mulder
BSc (Forensic and Analytical Chemistry) | (Forensic Science Hons.)
PhD Student (Chemistry)
Department of Chemistry
Curtin University
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Can't replace HD in new iMacs?

[Rod Blitvich]

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party-is-not-an-option/OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new iMacsbyMegan Lavey-Heaton(RSS feed)on May 12th, 2011The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing affordable upgrades for your Mac,delivered some bad newsregarding installing a third party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs.Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that removing the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause the hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third party drive in the machine results in the iMac failing theApple Hardware Test, even if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped with.Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve of, locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the hard drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair center. We'vetouted the virtuesof AppleCaremany times. However, a good many tend keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is guaranteed to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involveremoving the screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easyto access the internal drive, I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average custom

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Re: Rumoured iMac specs,...wonder where iWork '11 is,...lol - Applestore back up. New iMacs

[Ronda Brown]

On 03/05/2011, at 11:38 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 That's all,..back to your normal program.
 Oh,..and does anyone know why Dunedin (as in Dunedin, NZ) doesn't seem to
 work in Dashboard weather anymore? I want to see how cold my Dad is, so I
 can hassle him,...lol.  :O) Or it does work for others, in which case I need
 to look at all 5 computers here that don't do it,..lol.

Hi Daniel,

The Weather widget will normally default to the city selected for theTime Zone 
under Date  Time in System Preferences.
But changing the location to Dunedin New Zealand  then changing the Dashboard 
Weather widget to Dunedin New Zealand  hitting ‘return key’ doesn’t seem to 
change the weather widget location :-(

But I will tell you your Dad is very cold ;-)
http://www.weather-forecast.com/locations/Dunedin/forecasts/latest

Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Rumoured iMac specs,...wonder where iWork '11 is,...lol - Applestore back up. New iMacs

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Peter

Nothing has been announced with Lion fully. My personal guess will be that
we won't see it released until much later this year. I think it won't appear
until about August / September. Again, that's just my thoughts.
Others may feel different. But based on past experience that tends to be the
time they release it. I personally can't see it being ready any earlier.
But I'm not on their developer preview list, so don't get to play with the
early releases. And others who are on it have a signed NDA, so they can't
tell you much about it for fear of Apple Wrath.
I would think we'll see more info come out about it at WWDC (World Wide
Developers Conference) which I think is in June from memory. They'll
probably release more details then and if it's on track we may see it later
this year.
Again, these are just my feelings and readings. There isn't anything
concrete to go on. :o)

Oh, and the Applestore is back up,..
New iMac's...
http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select?mco=MjIwN
TQyNjE

Rumours were a little off. Two 21 models and two 27 models.


Kind regards
Daniel



On 3/5/11 8:12 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 
 Thanks Daniel, seems to be sooner than I was expecting. is Lion around the
 corner too?
 
 Peter
 On 03/05/2011, at 7:28 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Here is the rumoured iMac specs apparently:-
 (And price appears to have dropped maybe $100 too,time will tell)
 
 http://www.9to5mac.com/65025/apple-store-down-here-are-your-quadcore-imacs/
 
 /quote
 We¹ve just heard that these are the new Sandy Bridge, Thunderbolt-equipped
 iMacs:
 
 MC812LL/A - iMac 21.5/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC813LL/A - iMac 27/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC814LL/A - iMac 27/3.1QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 MD063LL/A - iMac 27/3.4QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 
 
 So there is only one 21.5-inch iMac now which starts with a Quad-Core Sandy
 Bridge processor and 4GB of RAM and 1TB hard drive.
 
 The 27-inch iMacs come in three varieties starting with a 2.7GHz Quad core
 and going up to a 3.4GHZ Quad-Core.  All three have 4GB of RAM (starting at)
 and 1TB hard drives.
 /end quote
 
 Wonder if we'll see iWork '11 anytime soon. It seems to be Missing In Action
 it would appear,lol
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
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Re: Rumoured iMac specs,...wonder where iWork '11 is,...lol - Applestore back up. New iMacs

[Ronda Brown]

Apple - iMac - Compare the 21.5- and 27-inch iMac.
Prices are:

21.5 2.5GHz - $1399
21.5 2.7GHz - $1698
27 2.7GHz - $1949
27 3.1GHz - $2299

Cheers,
Ronni
PS Daniel ..  I wasn’t wrong on March 18th 2009,…. 
I thought I was but I was mistaken ;-)

On 03/05/2011, at 8:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 Hi Peter
 
 Nothing has been announced with Lion fully. My personal guess will be that
 we won't see it released until much later this year. I think it won't appear
 until about August / September. Again, that's just my thoughts.
 Others may feel different. But based on past experience that tends to be the
 time they release it. I personally can't see it being ready any earlier.
 But I'm not on their developer preview list, so don't get to play with the
 early releases. And others who are on it have a signed NDA, so they can't
 tell you much about it for fear of Apple Wrath.
 I would think we'll see more info come out about it at WWDC (World Wide
 Developers Conference) which I think is in June from memory. They'll
 probably release more details then and if it's on track we may see it later
 this year.
 Again, these are just my feelings and readings. There isn't anything
 concrete to go on. :o)
 
 Oh, and the Applestore is back up,..
 New iMac's...
 http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select?mco=MjIwN
 TQyNjE
 
 Rumours were a little off. Two 21 models and two 27 models.
 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 
 On 3/5/11 8:12 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Daniel, seems to be sooner than I was expecting. is Lion around the
 corner too?
 
 Peter
 On 03/05/2011, at 7:28 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Here is the rumoured iMac specs apparently:-
 (And price appears to have dropped maybe $100 too,time will tell)
 
 http://www.9to5mac.com/65025/apple-store-down-here-are-your-quadcore-imacs/
 
 /quote
 We’ve just heard that these are the new Sandy Bridge, Thunderbolt-equipped
 iMacs:
 
 MC812LL/A - iMac 21.5/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC813LL/A - iMac 27/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC814LL/A - iMac 27/3.1QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 MD063LL/A - iMac 27/3.4QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 
 
 So there is only one 21.5-inch iMac now which starts with a Quad-Core Sandy
 Bridge processor and 4GB of RAM and 1TB hard drive.
 
 The 27-inch iMacs come in three varieties starting with a 2.7GHz Quad core
 and going up to a 3.4GHZ Quad-Core.  All three have 4GB of RAM (starting at)
 and 1TB hard drives.
 /end quote
 
 Wonder if we'll see iWork '11 anytime soon. It seems to be Missing In Action
 it would appear,lol
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 ---
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Re: Rumoured iMac specs,...wonder where iWork '11 is,...lol - Applestore back up. New iMacs

[Daniel Kerr]

Arr but mistaken,..so you must have been wrong about being wrong in the
first place, so we still class mistaken as being wrong. You thought you were
wrong, then but then realised you were right,..so you were wrong about being
wrong, and were right. So you must have been wrong. :o)
I'm stopping now before I start a flame war. Must be the flu going to my
brain again,...

And just to keep it on topic,..yes nice pricing again. All i5 models with
the choice to make the top ones i7's. I'm sure the resellers are going to
LOVE that! How many models does that mean they need to keep now. Gotta feel
sorry for them. Hard to guess which models to keep in stock all the time
rather then all. Otherwise a) lots of money tied up in models that may not
move or b) stock models that don't sell quickly and get left with. Not easy!


Kind regards
Daniel


On 3/5/11 8:57 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 Apple - iMac - Compare the 21.5- and 27-inch iMac.
 Prices are:
 
 21.5 2.5GHz - $1399
 21.5 2.7GHz - $1698
 27 2.7GHz - $1949
 27 3.1GHz - $2299
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 PS Daniel ..  I wasn¹t wrong on March 18th 2009,Š.
 I thought I was but I was mistaken ;-)
 
 On 03/05/2011, at 8:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Hi Peter
 
 Nothing has been announced with Lion fully. My personal guess will be that
 we won't see it released until much later this year. I think it won't appear
 until about August / September. Again, that's just my thoughts.
 Others may feel different. But based on past experience that tends to be the
 time they release it. I personally can't see it being ready any earlier.
 But I'm not on their developer preview list, so don't get to play with the
 early releases. And others who are on it have a signed NDA, so they can't
 tell you much about it for fear of Apple Wrath.
 I would think we'll see more info come out about it at WWDC (World Wide
 Developers Conference) which I think is in June from memory. They'll
 probably release more details then and if it's on track we may see it later
 this year.
 Again, these are just my feelings and readings. There isn't anything
 concrete to go on. :o)
 
 Oh, and the Applestore is back up,..
 New iMac's...
 http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select?mco=MjIwN
 TQyNjE
 
 Rumours were a little off. Two 21 models and two 27 models.
 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 
 On 3/5/11 8:12 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Daniel, seems to be sooner than I was expecting. is Lion around the
 corner too?
 
 Peter
 On 03/05/2011, at 7:28 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Here is the rumoured iMac specs apparently:-
 (And price appears to have dropped maybe $100 too,time will tell)
 
 
http://www.9to5mac.com/65025/apple-store-down-here-are-your-quadcore-imacs
/
 
 /quote
 We¹ve just heard that these are the new Sandy Bridge, Thunderbolt-equipped
 iMacs:
 
 MC812LL/A - iMac 21.5/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC813LL/A - iMac 27/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC814LL/A - iMac 27/3.1QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 MD063LL/A - iMac 27/3.4QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 
 
 So there is only one 21.5-inch iMac now which starts with a Quad-Core Sandy
 Bridge processor and 4GB of RAM and 1TB hard drive.
 
 The 27-inch iMacs come in three varieties starting with a 2.7GHz Quad core
 and going up to a 3.4GHZ Quad-Core.  All three have 4GB of RAM (starting
 at)
 and 1TB hard drives.
 /end quote
 
 Wonder if we'll see iWork '11 anytime soon. It seems to be Missing In
 Action
 it would appear,lol
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 ---
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 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
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Re: Rumoured iMac specs,...wonder where iWork '11 is,...lol - Applestore back up. New iMacs

[Stuart Evans]

Huh h. Daniel I think you have neglected to reflect back on my crystal
ball gazing back in February. I did say May for an iMac refresh. I think I
am 2 up on you now...   ;-)

P.S. Hopefully I got that Mayan one wrong  %-(

What do you think about;
iPhone 5 in September 2011?
Iwork '11 at WWDC?


P.S. Your package is imminent..  ;-)

 


On 3/05/11 8:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi Peter
 
 Nothing has been announced with Lion fully. My personal guess will be that
 we won't see it released until much later this year. I think it won't appear
 until about August / September. Again, that's just my thoughts.
 Others may feel different. But based on past experience that tends to be the
 time they release it. I personally can't see it being ready any earlier.
 But I'm not on their developer preview list, so don't get to play with the
 early releases. And others who are on it have a signed NDA, so they can't
 tell you much about it for fear of Apple Wrath.
 I would think we'll see more info come out about it at WWDC (World Wide
 Developers Conference) which I think is in June from memory. They'll
 probably release more details then and if it's on track we may see it later
 this year.
 Again, these are just my feelings and readings. There isn't anything
 concrete to go on. :o)
 
 Oh, and the Applestore is back up,..
 New iMac's...
 http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select?mco=MjIwN
 TQyNjE
 
 Rumours were a little off. Two 21 models and two 27 models.
 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 
 On 3/5/11 8:12 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Daniel, seems to be sooner than I was expecting. is Lion around the
 corner too?
 
 Peter
 On 03/05/2011, at 7:28 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Here is the rumoured iMac specs apparently:-
 (And price appears to have dropped maybe $100 too,time will tell)
 
 http://www.9to5mac.com/65025/apple-store-down-here-are-your-quadcore-imacs/
 
 /quote
 We¹ve just heard that these are the new Sandy Bridge, Thunderbolt-equipped
 iMacs:
 
 MC812LL/A - iMac 21.5/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC813LL/A - iMac 27/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC814LL/A - iMac 27/3.1QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 MD063LL/A - iMac 27/3.4QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 
 
 So there is only one 21.5-inch iMac now which starts with a Quad-Core Sandy
 Bridge processor and 4GB of RAM and 1TB hard drive.
 
 The 27-inch iMacs come in three varieties starting with a 2.7GHz Quad core
 and going up to a 3.4GHZ Quad-Core.  All three have 4GB of RAM (starting at)
 and 1TB hard drives.
 /end quote
 
 Wonder if we'll see iWork '11 anytime soon. It seems to be Missing In Action
 it would appear,lol
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
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Re: Rumoured iMac specs,...wonder where iWork '11 is,...lol - Applestore back up. New iMacs

[Daniel Kerr]

Yes, Thursday 24th Feb 2011 at 10.37pm,..you did say that.
You said iMac refresh - May/June 2011.
I said March,..cause I wanted one sooner!! :o) Maybe I should have gone
April/May just to make it more fun :oP

I agreed with you on the iPad 2,..so you can't count that one :oP
So that's just 1,... :oP
I spoke to Mayan,..and that's been changed,... :o)

iPhone 5 in September. I'd like one sooner as my 3Gs is starting to die. So
as much as I'd agree with you on that one,...yes sooner would be nicer :o)
No one wants to seem to lend me an iPhone 4 to test for about 5-7 months
;o)'
And iWork '11 announced WWDC, but like Carlo mentioned, I don't think it
will come out until Lion does. (and we haven't got to when Lion will be
out for sale as yet,..that's still a work in progress...lol. (A bit like
DVD's and Optical Drives,...lol) ;O) hehehe.

Cool on the package. It's quite annoying having to run an old MacBookPro
booked off my old hard drive in a Firewire case,...lol. (And I get some
funny looks when there's two Macintosh HD icons showing up on the desktop.
What? You have two internal drives in your laptop?!?! Well, no. But that
actually is possible. Oh? It is? /explanation follows,.. Arrggh. Didn't know
that. :o)

I think I should go to sleep soon,..lol,..my brain is starting to fry from
the flu still,...lol. Or lack of sleep,..or a mixture of both,.
Zzzz /thump
Oh, I better not tell you,..you'll tell my Mum! Lol.

Kind regards
Daniel

On 3/5/11 11:09 PM, Stuart Evans stuart.ev...@t4.com.au wrote:

 
 Huh h. Daniel I think you have neglected to reflect back on my crystal
 ball gazing back in February. I did say May for an iMac refresh. I think I
 am 2 up on you now...   ;-)
 
 P.S. Hopefully I got that Mayan one wrong  %-(
 
 What do you think about;
 iPhone 5 in September 2011?
 Iwork '11 at WWDC?
 
 
 P.S. Your package is imminent..  ;-)
 
  
 
 
 On 3/05/11 8:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi Peter
 
 Nothing has been announced with Lion fully. My personal guess will be that
 we won't see it released until much later this year. I think it won't appear
 until about August / September. Again, that's just my thoughts.
 Others may feel different. But based on past experience that tends to be the
 time they release it. I personally can't see it being ready any earlier.
 But I'm not on their developer preview list, so don't get to play with the
 early releases. And others who are on it have a signed NDA, so they can't
 tell you much about it for fear of Apple Wrath.
 I would think we'll see more info come out about it at WWDC (World Wide
 Developers Conference) which I think is in June from memory. They'll
 probably release more details then and if it's on track we may see it later
 this year.
 Again, these are just my feelings and readings. There isn't anything
 concrete to go on. :o)
 
 Oh, and the Applestore is back up,..
 New iMac's...
 http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select?mco=MjIwN
 TQyNjE
 
 Rumours were a little off. Two 21 models and two 27 models.
 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 
 On 3/5/11 8:12 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Daniel, seems to be sooner than I was expecting. is Lion around the
 corner too?
 
 Peter
 On 03/05/2011, at 7:28 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Here is the rumoured iMac specs apparently:-
 (And price appears to have dropped maybe $100 too,time will tell)
 
 
http://www.9to5mac.com/65025/apple-store-down-here-are-your-quadcore-imacs
/
 
 /quote
 We¹ve just heard that these are the new Sandy Bridge, Thunderbolt-equipped
 iMacs:
 
 MC812LL/A - iMac 21.5/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC813LL/A - iMac 27/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC814LL/A - iMac 27/3.1QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 MD063LL/A - iMac 27/3.4QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 
 
 So there is only one 21.5-inch iMac now which starts with a Quad-Core Sandy
 Bridge processor and 4GB of RAM and 1TB hard drive.
 
 The 27-inch iMacs come in three varieties starting with a 2.7GHz Quad core
 and going up to a 3.4GHZ Quad-Core.  All three have 4GB of RAM (starting
 at)
 and 1TB hard drives.
 /end quote
 
 Wonder if we'll see iWork '11 anytime soon. It seems to be Missing In
 Action
 it would appear,lol
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 
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 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
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Re: Rumoured iMac specs,...wonder where iWork '11 is,...lol - Applestore back up. New iMacs

[Stuart Evans]

Your secrets are safe with me..  (and the rest of the people on this
list!)   ;-)

Get some sleep, lots of fluids (not jack's!), and keep warm.




On 3/05/11 11:24 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 
 Yes, Thursday 24th Feb 2011 at 10.37pm,..you did say that.
 You said iMac refresh - May/June 2011.
 I said March,..cause I wanted one sooner!! :o) Maybe I should have gone
 April/May just to make it more fun :oP
 
 I agreed with you on the iPad 2,..so you can't count that one :oP
 So that's just 1,... :oP
 I spoke to Mayan,..and that's been changed,... :o)
 
 iPhone 5 in September. I'd like one sooner as my 3Gs is starting to die. So
 as much as I'd agree with you on that one,...yes sooner would be nicer :o)
 No one wants to seem to lend me an iPhone 4 to test for about 5-7 months
 ;o)'
 And iWork '11 announced WWDC, but like Carlo mentioned, I don't think it
 will come out until Lion does. (and we haven't got to when Lion will be
 out for sale as yet,..that's still a work in progress...lol. (A bit like
 DVD's and Optical Drives,...lol) ;O) hehehe.
 
 Cool on the package. It's quite annoying having to run an old MacBookPro
 booked off my old hard drive in a Firewire case,...lol. (And I get some
 funny looks when there's two Macintosh HD icons showing up on the desktop.
 What? You have two internal drives in your laptop?!?! Well, no. But that
 actually is possible. Oh? It is? /explanation follows,.. Arrggh. Didn't know
 that. :o)
 
 I think I should go to sleep soon,..lol,..my brain is starting to fry from
 the flu still,...lol. Or lack of sleep,..or a mixture of both,.
 Zzzz /thump
 Oh, I better not tell you,..you'll tell my Mum! Lol.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 On 3/5/11 11:09 PM, Stuart Evans stuart.ev...@t4.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Huh h. Daniel I think you have neglected to reflect back on my crystal
 ball gazing back in February. I did say May for an iMac refresh. I think I
 am 2 up on you now...   ;-)
 
 P.S. Hopefully I got that Mayan one wrong  %-(
 
 What do you think about;
 iPhone 5 in September 2011?
 Iwork '11 at WWDC?
 
 
 P.S. Your package is imminent..  ;-)
 
  
 
 
 On 3/05/11 8:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi Peter
 
 Nothing has been announced with Lion fully. My personal guess will be that
 we won't see it released until much later this year. I think it won't appear
 until about August / September. Again, that's just my thoughts.
 Others may feel different. But based on past experience that tends to be the
 time they release it. I personally can't see it being ready any earlier.
 But I'm not on their developer preview list, so don't get to play with the
 early releases. And others who are on it have a signed NDA, so they can't
 tell you much about it for fear of Apple Wrath.
 I would think we'll see more info come out about it at WWDC (World Wide
 Developers Conference) which I think is in June from memory. They'll
 probably release more details then and if it's on track we may see it later
 this year.
 Again, these are just my feelings and readings. There isn't anything
 concrete to go on. :o)
 
 Oh, and the Applestore is back up,..
 New iMac's...
 http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select?mco=MjIwN
 TQyNjE
 
 Rumours were a little off. Two 21 models and two 27 models.
 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 
 On 3/5/11 8:12 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Daniel, seems to be sooner than I was expecting. is Lion around the
 corner too?
 
 Peter
 On 03/05/2011, at 7:28 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Here is the rumoured iMac specs apparently:-
 (And price appears to have dropped maybe $100 too,time will tell)
 
 
 
http://www.9to5mac.com/65025/apple-store-down-here-are-your-quadcore-imacs

 /
 
 /quote
 We¹ve just heard that these are the new Sandy Bridge, Thunderbolt-equipped
 iMacs:
 
 MC812LL/A - iMac 21.5/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC813LL/A - iMac 27/2.7QC/2x2GB/1TB/6770M-USA
 MC814LL/A - iMac 27/3.1QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 MD063LL/A - iMac 27/3.4QC/2x2GB/1TB/6970M-USA
 
 
 So there is only one 21.5-inch iMac now which starts with a Quad-Core
 Sandy
 Bridge processor and 4GB of RAM and 1TB hard drive.
 
 The 27-inch iMacs come in three varieties starting with a 2.7GHz Quad core
 and going up to a 3.4GHZ Quad-Core.  All three have 4GB of RAM (starting
 at)
 and 1TB hard drives.
 /end quote
 
 Wonder if we'll see iWork '11 anytime soon. It seems to be Missing In
 Action
 it would appear,lol
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
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Re: Rumoured iMac specs,...wonder where iWork '11 is,...lol - Applestore back up. New iMacs

[Daniel Kerr]

Phew,..just as well. ;)
Actually,..Jacks might help me sleep better!! And keep me warm,..lol. :) Oh
well, I don't drink, so that rules that out anyway,..lol.

Oh, and how cool is the new 27 iMac going to be with TWO extra displays
attached to it. Three displays all going at the same time Nice!!
X-Plane9 any one,..you can now fly the plane and see the view out each side
cockpit window,...LOL!  Or one realy wide spreadsheet over three
27 displays. Lol.

And interesting to see the AMD graphics cards in the iMac now. (Well not
really considering the court cases with Intel and AMD kinda got settled).
And you can BTO a 2GB Video Card. Nce! :o)

That's all,..back to your normal program.
Oh,..and does anyone know why Dunedin (as in Dunedin, NZ) doesn't seem to
work in Dashboard weather anymore? I want to see how cold my Dad is, so I
can hassle him,...lol.  :O) Or it does work for others, in which case I need
to look at all 5 computers here that don't do it,..lol.

Kind regards
Daniel


On 3/5/11 11:30 PM, Stuart Evans stuart.ev...@t4.com.au wrote:

 
 Your secrets are safe with me..  (and the rest of the people on this
 list!)   ;-)
 
 Get some sleep, lots of fluids (not jack's!), and keep warm.
 
 
 
 
 On 3/05/11 11:24 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Yes, Thursday 24th Feb 2011 at 10.37pm,..you did say that.
 You said iMac refresh - May/June 2011.
 I said March,..cause I wanted one sooner!! :o) Maybe I should have gone
 April/May just to make it more fun :oP
 
 I agreed with you on the iPad 2,..so you can't count that one :oP
 So that's just 1,... :oP
 I spoke to Mayan,..and that's been changed,... :o)
 
 iPhone 5 in September. I'd like one sooner as my 3Gs is starting to die. So
 as much as I'd agree with you on that one,...yes sooner would be nicer :o)
 No one wants to seem to lend me an iPhone 4 to test for about 5-7 months
 ;o)'
 And iWork '11 announced WWDC, but like Carlo mentioned, I don't think it
 will come out until Lion does. (and we haven't got to when Lion will be
 out for sale as yet,..that's still a work in progress...lol. (A bit like
 DVD's and Optical Drives,...lol) ;O) hehehe.
 
 Cool on the package. It's quite annoying having to run an old MacBookPro
 booked off my old hard drive in a Firewire case,...lol. (And I get some
 funny looks when there's two Macintosh HD icons showing up on the desktop.
 What? You have two internal drives in your laptop?!?! Well, no. But that
 actually is possible. Oh? It is? /explanation follows,.. Arrggh. Didn't know
 that. :o)
 
 I think I should go to sleep soon,..lol,..my brain is starting to fry from
 the flu still,...lol. Or lack of sleep,..or a mixture of both,.
 Zzzz /thump
 Oh, I better not tell you,..you'll tell my Mum! Lol.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 On 3/5/11 11:09 PM, Stuart Evans stuart.ev...@t4.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Huh h. Daniel I think you have neglected to reflect back on my crystal
 ball gazing back in February. I did say May for an iMac refresh. I think I
 am 2 up on you now...   ;-)
 
 P.S. Hopefully I got that Mayan one wrong  %-(
 
 What do you think about;
 iPhone 5 in September 2011?
 Iwork '11 at WWDC?
 
 
 P.S. Your package is imminent..  ;-)
 
  
 
 
 On 3/05/11 8:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi Peter
 
 Nothing has been announced with Lion fully. My personal guess will be
 that
 we won't see it released until much later this year. I think it won't
 appear
 until about August / September. Again, that's just my thoughts.
 Others may feel different. But based on past experience that tends to be
 the
 time they release it. I personally can't see it being ready any earlier.
 But I'm not on their developer preview list, so don't get to play with the
 early releases. And others who are on it have a signed NDA, so they can't
 tell you much about it for fear of Apple Wrath.
 I would think we'll see more info come out about it at WWDC (World Wide
 Developers Conference) which I think is in June from memory. They'll
 probably release more details then and if it's on track we may see it later
 this year.
 Again, these are just my feelings and readings. There isn't anything
 concrete to go on. :o)
 
 Oh, and the Applestore is back up,..
 New iMac's...
 
http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select?mco=MjIw
N
 TQyNjE
 
 Rumours were a little off. Two 21 models and two 27 models.
 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 
 On 3/5/11 8:12 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Daniel, seems to be sooner than I was expecting. is Lion around the
 corner too?
 
 Peter
 On 03/05/2011, at 7:28 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Here is the rumoured iMac specs apparently:-
 (And price appears to have dropped maybe $100 too,time will tell)
 
 
 
 
http://www.9to5mac.com/65025/apple-store-down-here-are-your-quadcore-imacs

 
 /
 
 /quote
 We¹ve just heard that these are the new Sandy Bridge,
 Thunderbolt-equipped
 iMacs:
 
 MC812LL/A - iMac 

New iMacs, New MacMini's and Mice (??)

[Daniel Kerr]

Seems BusinessWeek got in even before the AppleStore came back online..


http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ByteOfTheApple/blog/archives/2009/10
/apple_announces.html

21.5 and 27 LED iMacs apparently.
Mouse looks interesting,...

Now to just see when the Apple Store comes backup if it matches this. ;)

Enjoy

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Daniel
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Re: New iMacs and Macmini

[gary dorn]

Hi all,

Apple introduced some fantastic product updates overnight, including 
updated 17 and 20 iMacs and an all new 24 iMac.


New iMacs feature Intel Core 2 Duo - 64bit, 65 nanometer dual core 
processors with 128-bit SSE3 vector engine.


The Macmini was also updated - 2 configurations, the entry now a 
Core Duo 1.66Ghz processor, the top model a 1.83Ghz Core Duo 
processor.


The 24 iMac looks great!

Stuart Evans
AppleCentre Albany

(08) 9842 9660

and further to that,
Apple are now offering refurb 24  iMac 2.8 for less than $2000

http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/specialdeals?mco=MjQyNjY
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Re: New iMacs

[Paul K]

Love/hate for me.
They track beautifully, the small size of the ball gives superb range
and control of speed.
However, they do cost and they die young.
I happily use them at work, nice clean environment, but they cant cut
it here with hairy dogs around and grubby gardener types clutching at
them, fragile little things they are, delicate. ;-)

Cheers
Paul

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Re: New iMacs

[Peter Hinchliffe]

I was pretty ambivalent on the Mighty Mouse until I bought my Intel  
iMac, which came with one. Until then, I had only really used them  
sporadically on clients' machines, and formed the impression that they  
worked far better in the right hand than the left.


Since I've been using a Mighty Mouse pretty much full time since the  
iMac, I've discovered it's small idiosyncrasies and learnt how to  
defeat them. I like my little Bluetooth Logitech mouse I use with my  
Macbook Pro, but I now find its up-and-down scrolling a little  
limiting (I know, I can use the Control key for sideways scrolling,  
but it's not as convenient); but I think the clincher is the  
completely smooth action and pin-point accuracy of the scrolling  
wheel, which is not matched by any other mouse I've used. I'm now a  
big fan.



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Re: New iMacs

[Adam hewitt]

Coming from a PC background I really don't understand the fascination that
Mac people have with the mighty mouse. I must admit that I had never used
one, but I have seen them and in my opinion they are a very basic and
expensive mouse.

With companies like Logitech who specialize in mice and the fact that Mac's
can use any USB mouse, why would you go down the path of the mighty mouse in
the first place?

Adam.

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 Well the new iMacs have been announced as predicted.  Plus the price
 has dropped on the basic machine from A$1698 to $A1599.   Too bad
 they don't appear to have designed a better Mighty Mouse.
 
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Re: New iMacs

[James Devenish]

Hi Adam,

The Mighty Mouse offers a 360° scroll ball (not just an up/down
wheel), which is why I like it. I agree that it could have more
buttons and should not chew through the batteries like it does. I use
rechargables for my wireless Mighty Mice and although they need to be
charged often, I am in the habit. Wireless Mighty Mouse seems to have
pretty good lifespan with lithium batteries, which I keep on hand for
when I am mobile without a recharger. But still not nearly on par with
any other brand, I take it.

The thing is, I've never had a great experience using other people's
mice, and not even been impressed by the ergonomic shaping, etc., thus
I have never overcome the intertia of using the Mighty Mouse. I think
the Apple one suits my hands (and I tend to use mice left-handed,
too). Although a lot of people have complained that the scroll ball
breaks down and cannot be repaired, I use mouse mats and keep my
scroll ball clean by spraying with isopropanol periodically, so I
don't have the problem that other people seem to have.

James

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Re: New iMacs

[Dark1]

I've always been a mac user but was never really drawn to the mighty  
mouse since I've been very content with my logitech one.  I did like  
the way the old 1 button mouse fit into the hand.  It was very  
comfortable but simply didn't have the functionality.


My mouse only scrolls up and down but you can hold down the shift key  
while using the scroll wheel to go left and right.


Ruben

Coming from a PC background I really don't understand the  
fascination that
Mac people have with the mighty mouse. I must admit that I had never  
used

one, but I have seen them and in my opinion they are a very basic and
expensive mouse.

With companies like Logitech who specialize in mice and the fact  
that Mac's
can use any USB mouse, why would you go down the path of the mighty  
mouse in

the first place?

Adam.


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Well the new iMacs have been announced as predicted.  Plus the price
has dropped on the basic machine from A$1698 to $A1599.   Too bad
they don't appear to have designed a better Mighty Mouse.

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New iMacs

[pweaver]

Well the new iMacs have been announced as predicted.  Plus the price
has dropped on the basic machine from A$1698 to $A1599.   Too bad
they don't appear to have designed a better Mighty Mouse.

Cheers, Paul.


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Re: MacBooks Core2 Duo? - Was New iMacs and MacMini (Take 2)

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 07/09/2006, at 1:14 PM, Rod wrote:




On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:39 +0800, David Moyle wrote:

Hey

Actually Daniel has raised a good point that I forgotten was raised
in a few chats. If they did update the MacBook (Which there
guarnteeded todo before the christmas rush) then it will be par with
the MacBook Pro and technically theres very little between the two.
The MacBook Pro has better build quality and a few more features but
apart from that..


I predict that the MBP will be bumped in October/November (once stocks
of Meroms are back after the iMac rush), then MacBook bumps will be
during MacWorld SanFran in January (they need at least one hardware
announcement to pad out a 2 hour keynote!).

I'm also hoping that next week Apple announce that at least the UK  
will

have tv show downloads available via iTMS.  At least that will be
somewhere outside the US that will have something other than Pixar
shorts and music vids :-)



I wonder if we can take a clue from the new iMacs. Even the entry  
point has Core 2 Duo, with the Intel Integrated Graphics as one of  
the main differential points, so it seems quite possible that all the  
laptop models could be similarly bumped. There's a Significant Apple  
Event coming up on September 12 (next Tuesday), so I guess there's  
still a chance Apple could announce something then. I won't stop  
twitching until after that.


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New iMacs and Macmini

[Stuart Evans]

Hi all,

Apple introduced some fantastic product updates overnight, including  updated 
17” and 20 iMacs and an all new 24 iMac.

New iMacs feature Intel Core 2 Duo - 64bit, 65 nanometer dual core processors 
with 128-bit SSE3 vector engine.

The Macmini was also updated - 2 configurations, the entry now a Core Duo 
1.66Ghz processor, the top model a 1.83Ghz Core Duo processor.

The 24” iMac looks great!

Stuart Evans
AppleCentre Albany
(08) 9842 9660

Stuart Evans
T4 Technology
0428 184 818

New iMacs and MacMini (Take 2)

[Stuart Evans]

Hi all,

My apologies for the last email. Sent it from my Blackberry, but it's never
done that before!

Apple introduced some fantastic product updates overnight, including updated
17 and 20 iMacs and an all new 24 iMac. Best of all - Price drops!!!

All the new iMacs feature Intel Core 2 Duo - 64bit, 65 nanometer dual core
processors with 128-bit SSE3 vector engine.

Full product features are on the Apple website.

17
1.83 and 2.0Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo processor. The 1.83Ghz machine has
integrated Intel GMA950 Graphics with 64MB shared memory. It does not have
Bluetooth or an Apple Remote.
The 2.0Ghz machine has an ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB of memory.
The 1.83Ghz starts from just $1549

20
2.16Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 128MB ATI Radeon x1600 - upgradable to
256MB - $2299

New size - 24
24 display, 1920x1200 resolution.
2.16Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo - upgradeable to 2.33Ghz
NVidia GeForce 7300GT with 128MB graphics memory, upgradeable to NVidia
GeForce 7600GT with 256MB of Ram
$2999!

The Macmini was also updated - 2 configurations, the entry now a Core Duo
1.66Ghz processor, the top model a 1.83Ghz Core Duo processor.

Cheers,
Stuart


Stuart Evans
AppleCentre Albany
(08) 9842 9660

Re: New iMacs and MacMini (Take 2)

[Steven Knowles]

Any guesses as to when the Core 2 Duos will make it through to the Macbooks?

Cheers, Steven


On 7/9/06 10:38 AM, Stuart Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 My apologies for the last email. Sent it from my Blackberry, but it's never
 done that before!
 
 Apple introduced some fantastic product updates overnight, including updated
 17 and 20 iMacs and an all new 24 iMac. Best of all - Price drops!!!
 
 All the new iMacs feature Intel Core 2 Duo - 64bit, 65 nanometer dual core
 processors with 128-bit SSE3 vector engine.
 
 Full product features are on the Apple website.
 
 17
 1.83 and 2.0Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo processor. The 1.83Ghz machine has
 integrated Intel GMA950 Graphics with 64MB shared memory. It does not have
 Bluetooth or an Apple Remote.
 The 2.0Ghz machine has an ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB of memory.
 The 1.83Ghz starts from just $1549
 
 20
 2.16Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 128MB ATI Radeon x1600 - upgradable to
 256MB - $2299
 
 New size - 24
 24 display, 1920x1200 resolution.
 2.16Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo - upgradeable to 2.33Ghz
 NVidia GeForce 7300GT with 128MB graphics memory, upgradeable to NVidia
 GeForce 7600GT with 256MB of Ram
 $2999!
 
 The Macmini was also updated - 2 configurations, the entry now a Core Duo
 1.66Ghz processor, the top model a 1.83Ghz Core Duo processor.
 
 Cheers,
 Stuart
 
 
 Stuart Evans
 AppleCentre Albany
 (08) 9842 9660
 
 
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Re: MacBooks Core2 Duo? - Was New iMacs and MacMini (Take 2)

[Daniel Kerr]

On 7/9/06 9:44 AM, Steven Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any guesses as to when the Core 2 Duos will make it through to the Macbooks?
 
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Hi Steven

This is quite a hard one to predict I'm guessing at the moment.
Although some of the rumour mill say that we'll see them soon no one
really knows.
And I get asked this same question a lot lately also.

Although I don't know what is going to happen, as does no one else really I
guess (well apart from maybe Steve Jobs and a select few)
My *guess* would be the following:-

I can't seem them upgrading the MacBook's until they've done the MacBook
Pro. I would think they would do these first, as otherwise if they do them
both at the same time, then it makes it harder to say why you're paying more
for the MacBook Pro against the MacBook.
So, I would think they would do themselves out of sales of MacBook Pro's.

So, my guess would be, we'll see the MacBook Pro go Core 2 Duo then maybe a
few months after that then the MacBook's will go to Core 2 Duo.

Hope that helps and makes sense.
I could be completely wrong and way off track, and all the views listed here
are just my normal ramblings, and should be taken with a grain of salt :o)
But thought I'd put something in anyway.

Enjoy!

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Re: MacBooks Core2 Duo? - Was New iMacs and MacMini (Take 2)

[David Moyle]

Hey

Actually Daniel has raised a good point that I forgotten was raised
in a few chats. If they did update the MacBook (Which there
guarnteeded todo before the christmas rush) then it will be par with
the MacBook Pro and technically theres very little between the two.
The MacBook Pro has better build quality and a few more features but
apart from that.. 




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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:27:12 +0800

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 Any guesses as to when the Core 2 Duos will make it through to the
Macbooks?
 
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Hi Steven

This is quite a hard one to predict I'm guessing at the moment.
Although some of the rumour mill say that we'll see them soon no
one
really knows.
And I get asked this same question a lot lately also.

Although I don't know what is going to happen, as does no one else
really I
guess (well apart from maybe Steve Jobs and a select few)
My *guess* would be the following:-

I can't seem them upgrading the MacBook's until they've done the
MacBook
Pro. I would think they would do these first, as otherwise if they
do them
both at the same time, then it makes it harder to say why you're
paying more
for the MacBook Pro against the MacBook.
So, I would think they would do themselves out of sales of MacBook
Pro's.

So, my guess would be, we'll see the MacBook Pro go Core 2 Duo then
maybe a
few months after that then the MacBook's will go to Core 2 Duo.

Hope that helps and makes sense.
I could be completely wrong and way off track, and all the views
listed here
are just my normal ramblings, and should be taken with a grain of
salt :o)
But thought I'd put something in anyway.

Enjoy!

Kind Regards
Daniel 
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Thanks, David Moyle

Manjimup, WA
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: MacBooks Core2 Duo? - Was New iMacs and MacMini (Take 2)

[Rod]

On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:39 +0800, David Moyle wrote:
 Hey
 
 Actually Daniel has raised a good point that I forgotten was raised
 in a few chats. If they did update the MacBook (Which there
 guarnteeded todo before the christmas rush) then it will be par with
 the MacBook Pro and technically theres very little between the two.
 The MacBook Pro has better build quality and a few more features but
 apart from that.. 

I predict that the MBP will be bumped in October/November (once stocks
of Meroms are back after the iMac rush), then MacBook bumps will be
during MacWorld SanFran in January (they need at least one hardware
announcement to pad out a 2 hour keynote!).

I'm also hoping that next week Apple announce that at least the UK will
have tv show downloads available via iTMS.  At least that will be
somewhere outside the US that will have something other than Pixar
shorts and music vids :-)

Seeya

Rod!

Apple confirms new iMacs are coming in September

[BART RAFFAELE]

Hmm ! Will we see g5 iMac

http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/07/01/imacs/index.php?redirect=1089
201797000

Should be some good deals on the flat screen iMac's.
Since the new ones coming in Sept

Bart

Re: Apple confirms new iMacs are coming in September

[Rod Lavington]

On 7/8/04 9:17 AM, BART RAFFAELE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmm ! Will we see g5 iMac
 
 http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/07/01/imacs/index.php?redirect=1089
 201797000
 
 Should be some good deals on the flat screen iMac's.
 Since the new ones coming in Sept
 
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Seeya

Rod!

New iMacs

[Shay Telfer]

http://www.apple.com/imac/

To quote Macintouch, all prices in $US: http://www.macintouch.com/
Apple this morning updated its iMac line, adding AirPort Extreme and 
Bluetooth support (but not FireWire 800) to a new 17-inch model, 
priced at $1,799 with a 1-GHz processor. This system includes a 4x 
SuperDrive, GeForce4 graphics, and 256 MB of DDR memory, plus Apple 
Pro speakers and an 80GB hard drive.
Apple's 15-inch, 800-MHz iMac drops to $1299 with a Combo drive, 
GeForce2 graphics, 60GB hard drive, 256 MB of memory and Apple 
speakers, but lacks Bluetooth, AirPort Extreme and FireWire 800 
support.
Apple also cut pricing on its eMac systems, with the cheapest system 
at $999 and a SuperDrive model priced at $1299. (The traditional, 
CRT-based iMac is still listed in the Apple Store at prices from 
$799 to $949, limited to standard CD-ROM drives.)


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New iMacs?

[Calvin Conkey]

Hi guys,

I am looking into getting one of the new iMacs. I am trying to get 
the best value for money and am looking at the iMac 600mhz with CDRW. 
I was wondering why it only has 256k L2 cache? This seems too small 
for this kind of machine! Wouldn't this cause a bottle-neck in 
terms of the speed of the computer? I noticed that the 500mhz 
version has a 512k L2 cache, why is it higher than the 600mhz model? 
Any ideas?


Thanks,

Cal 

Re: New iMacs?

[Rod Lavington]

On 27/09/2001 1:01 PM, Calvin Conkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 I am looking into getting one of the new iMacs. I am trying to get
 the best value for money and am looking at the iMac 600mhz with CDRW.
 I was wondering why it only has 256k L2 cache? This seems too small
 for this kind of machine! Wouldn't this cause a bottle-neck in
 terms of the speed of the computer? I noticed that the 500mhz
 version has a 512k L2 cache, why is it higher than the 600mhz model?
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cal 
 

Hi Cal!

The reason that the 600Mhz has a smaller cache size is because the chip
architecture is improved. So the 600Mhz cache, even though it is 256K, runs
at 600Mhz. The base 500Mhz model has the older design, so it will run at
double the bus speed of the logic board. In this case, the cache speed is
200Mhz.

Therefore the 600Mhz machine is more efficient at handling data as it can
push the info through at a faster speed, rather than holding more in the
cache. (Maybe the tecchies in the group have a better explanation).

Also note that the 500Mhz CDRW model also has 256K cache. Only the base
model has the 512K cache!

Kindest regards

Rod!
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Re: New iMacs?

[Greg Pennefather]

Calvin

The newer G3 chips have incorporated the L2 cache on to the chip itself - so
it runs at the same clock speed as the chip. The older L2 cache was
external to the chip and usually (on the lower end machines) only ran at
half the clock speed. So, reportedly, the new G3s with 256k on-chip L2
cache are faster (at the same clock rate) than the older G3s with 512k
external L2 cache.

Cheers

Greg


on 27/9/01 1:01 PM, Calvin Conkey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 I am looking into getting one of the new iMacs. I am trying to get
 the best value for money and am looking at the iMac 600mhz with CDRW.
 I was wondering why it only has 256k L2 cache? This seems too small
 for this kind of machine! Wouldn't this cause a bottle-neck in
 terms of the speed of the computer? I noticed that the 500mhz
 version has a 512k L2 cache, why is it higher than the 600mhz model?
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cal 
 
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