Re: [WISPA] speed test
I set the busting to 2x the contracted speeds. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test I am just looking to learn how to do the bursting as you are running it. I am quite happy with all Motorola gear, though. How do I setup this bursting you are running? Thanks, David From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test We went to all low $$$ Ubiquiti equipment. $89 bucks for an AP and zero day ROI is super cool! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test What are you using to setup bursting on your network? We are running Canopy APs and SMs. David From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:06 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Bursting is cool cause on my system, the web page will *SNAP* right up and they get this OMFG face when they see it. But the hit on the network is ZERO! Tip- CHARGE FOR BURSTING! I F'ked that up. Gave it away, From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test How do you turn on bursting because I get these same types of users complaining because of a stupid speed test result. David From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test turn on bursting?works awesome,they don't wanna tell you the results because they think they are getting way more than they should. --- On Sun, 9/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:29 PM OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net http://speedtest.net/ and dslreports.com http://dslreports.com/ - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
Yeah, I set per CPE but as tomorrow, I'm charging another 15 buckls for bursting. Money is money. Tired of this Free Sh*t From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Bob, Are you doing the bursting on the CPE? On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: UBNT. 99.9%!!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Motorola Canopy From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test what type of wireless gear are you using? --- On Sun, 9/12/10, David Williamson dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com wrote: From: David Williamson dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 8:53 PM How do you turn on bursting because I get these same types of users complaining because of a stupid speed test result. David From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test turn on bursting?works awesome,they don't wanna tell you the results because they think they are getting way more than they should. --- On Sun, 9/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:29 PM OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net http://speedtest.net/ and dslreports.com http://dslreports.com/ - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
I know. And the woman asks if that's code from a secret girlfriend. Yeah, maybe. Steve- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Got you suit on? You can afford a good one at the cost of the CPE :) On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: F L A M E ! ! ! ! ! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Let's not start this flame war. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We went to all low $$$ Ubiquiti equipment. $89 bucks for an AP and zero day ROI is super cool! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test What are you using to setup bursting on your network? We are running Canopy APs and SMs. David From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:06 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Bursting is cool cause on my system, the web page will *SNAP* right up and they get this OMFG face when they see it. But the hit on the network is ZERO! Tip- CHARGE FOR BURSTING! I F'ked that up. Gave it away, From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test How do you turn on bursting because I get these same types of users complaining because of a stupid speed test result. David From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test turn on bursting?works awesome,they don't wanna tell you the results because they think they are getting way more than they should. --- On Sun, 9/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:29 PM OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net http://speedtest.net/ and dslreports.com http://dslreports.com/ - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
Free shi* is just shi*. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Yeah, I set per CPE but as tomorrow, I'm charging another 15 buckls for bursting. Money is money. Tired of this Free Sh*t From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Bob, Are you doing the bursting on the CPE? On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: UBNT. 99.9%!!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Motorola Canopy From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test what type of wireless gear are you using? --- On Sun, 9/12/10, David Williamson dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com wrote: From: David Williamson dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 8:53 PM How do you turn on bursting because I get these same types of users complaining because of a stupid speed test result. David From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test turn on bursting?works awesome,they don't wanna tell you the results because they think they are getting way more than they should. --- On Sun, 9/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:29 PM OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net http://speedtest.net/ and dslreports.com http://dslreports.com/ - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
But then I'm pinging within network and that tells me nothing. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Bob - your using time warners bandwidth - simply use theirs - your ip ranges are theirs anyhow - best results - as I have found :-) On Sep 12, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Robert West wrote: I use Speedtest.Net for my own tests to verify my CPE settings. Yeah, sometimes it sucks but I have to change to a better server normally and I tell the customer the same thing. Right now we are defaulted to some B.S. speed test server with a 73ms ping time! WTF!73MS???!!! Flippin' stupid! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] speed test OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
Advanced tab. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Bob, How do you do burst at 2x the contracted speed on UBNT? AFAIK, the burst is in bytes transfered, not bits per second. On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I do bursting too. 2x the contracted speed. Makes a big WOW response with web pages and had made ZERO impact on my network! Makes me rethink NOT charging a fee for bursting! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test turn on bursting?works awesome,they don't wanna tell you the results because they think they are getting way more than they should. --- On Sun, 9/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:29 PM OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net http://speedtest.net/ and dslreports.com http://dslreports.com/ - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
I just wish that UBNT would have a burst TIME limit like Mikrotik does. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of j284...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 7:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Dave,I'm fairly sure moto let's you set the burst on the sm,same place you set the ul/dl speeds. Sent from my BlackBerryR -Original Message- From: David Williamson dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:35:23 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
Yep. Was playing with that today, actually. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Mikrotik routers would handle all of this. If I'd done it, I'd tell you how. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/13/2010 3:24 AM, RickG wrote: Bob, How do you do burst at 2x the contracted speed on UBNT? AFAIK, the burst is in bytes transfered, not bits per second. On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I do bursting too. 2x the contracted speed. Makes a big WOW response with web pages and had made ZERO impact on my network! Makes me rethink NOT charging a fee for bursting! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test turn on bursting?works awesome,they don't wanna tell you the results because they think they are getting way more than they should. --- On Sun, 9/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:29 PM OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net http://speedtest.net/ and dslreports.com http://dslreports.com/ - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
I've now been defaulted to PIKETON!Piketon is in the middle of nowhere and is a defunct nuclear plutonium enrichment facility for the US government. MIDDLE OF THE STICKS! HA! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Its worse then that here. Were 6ms off the local speedtest server. And it still gives us crap. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Ironton! For me Ironton SUCKS! Ping 108ms!!! Why in the hell are they defaulting g you to arm pit Ironton? Been there that place sucks! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test My fiver is through TW. They insist I use the Ironton server which, IMO always provides an accurate result. The issue is these people dont believe it and want to see their speed results elsewhere :( On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Speed test mini just after your upstream pipe. On Sep 12, 2010 7:29 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Works fine. I’m now 99.999% UBNT! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Taking the plunge All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector. It will take time to physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done before the snow flies. Has anyone down this? Success? I know I cannot turn on Airmax till everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till you get it on? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi W http://www.rcwifi.com/ ireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
Bursting rocks! But do it on the CPE and CHARGE for it if you can. Heck, 5 bucks extra? Could be a profit center. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test I didnt catch that part from Bob but thats what I'm thinking. So, I'll add bursting to my RB1000. But not sure what config allows bursting for all customers. BTW: I did add bursting (in bytes transferred) to the complaining customers UBNT and he says it is fixed! On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: You need a router or bandwidth shaper that limits the burst rate independently of the SM. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Sep 13, 2010, at 1:25 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Bob, How do you do burst at 2x the contracted speed on UBNT? AFAIK, the burst is in bytes transfered, not bits per second. On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I do bursting too. 2x the contracted speed. Makes a big WOW response with web pages and had made ZERO impact on my network! Makes me rethink NOT charging a fee for bursting! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test turn on bursting?works awesome,they don't wanna tell you the results because they think they are getting way more than they should. --- On Sun, 9/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:29 PM OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ATT1..c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted!
I know you got 'em. I'm looking for some nice pics of the various ways of mounting sector antennas. I have a tower with 5 to 10 and even 20 structural tube to mount to, three sided classic 1980's tower. 300 footer. I'm the king at ripping off designs and welding up my own (sorry, my bad) and am looking for some good ideas for this thing. I'd say pretty please but I'm not that pretty and I never please. Well, so says the wife.. *sigh* Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea! I shall steal it from you and make it my own. Nuff said. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Steve, After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the warm fuzzies about my RocketM5 sectors. These 4 sectors are on my main tower and are backhauls for my whole network! I have not had time to work with my 2.4 sectors since the last go around was a flop. After upgrading all clients on one AP over to M radios, I turned on Airmax and things feel much better. YMMV. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE's are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector. It will take time to physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done before the snow flies. Has anyone down this? Success? I know I cannot turn on Airmax till everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till you get it on? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi W http://www.rcwifi.com/ ireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted!
Nice. Is that angle iron for the standoff? Hopefully NOT Home Depot wire ties though. I HATE their military rated wire ties. What a joke, as I've said before and not so nicely. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! Most of my towers are water tanks. I do have a couple of tri-legs to contend with. I prefer stand offs. Sorry, only pic I've got. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I know you got 'em. I'm looking for some nice pics of the various ways of mounting sector antennas. I have a tower with 5 to 10 and even 20 structural tube to mount to, three sided classic 1980's tower. 300 footer. I'm the king at ripping off designs and welding up my own (sorry, my bad) and am looking for some good ideas for this thing. I'd say pretty please but I'm not that pretty and I never please. Well, so says the wife.. *sigh* Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Yep. Just one last lonely 433 board with an XR2 card. However we DO still use a 600a at the shop. BUT..! Working on putting another 433 back into service for a weird install with another XR2 card and a couple of Luxul circular polarized antennas. All from the Junk Pile.A private link that the 433AH would do nicely for and will get SOLD as a result! Gotta love that! (At full retail to boot!) Bob- Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge probably a mikrotik router or two On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:58 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the .001 unit? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Works fine. I’m now 99.999% UBNT! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Taking the plunge All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector. It will take time to physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done before the snow flies. Has anyone down this? Success? I know I cannot turn on Airmax till everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till you get it on? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Winter break? That's when I spend all night up on a tower in the carharts, ski mask and goggles... No break! This year I may add a flask of rum to the tool bucket. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Your welcome! I put them up earlier this year. The first station was a RocketM5 Dish, 13 miles out. Truly set it and forget it! It worked so well that it threw me for a loop when I had issues with the 2.4 sectors. At any rate, I've been adding UBNT M5 dishes and other M5 units as backhauls to the rest of my towers non-stop. Cant wait til winter break! On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea! I shall steal it from you and make it my own. Nuff said. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Steve, After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the warm fuzzies about my RocketM5 sectors. These 4 sectors are on my main tower and are backhauls for my whole network! I have not had time to work with my 2.4 sectors since the last go around was a flop. After upgrading all clients on one AP over to M radios, I turned on Airmax and things feel much better. YMMV. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE's are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector. It will take time to physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done before the snow flies. Has anyone down this? Success? I know I cannot turn on Airmax till everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till you get it on? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi W http://www.rcwifi.com/ ireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Kinky. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge I know a guy in Florida who put up a PTP link for every customer! Of course, that was from the rooftop of a high rise. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote: Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea! I shall steal it from you and make it my own. Nuff said. Why not? I'm working on a design now that has 15-20 access points fed from a sector antenna on a tower. (I couldn't put that many separate links up if I tried, not between 5.725 and 5.85.) They'll need TDMA (Airmax or an Nstreme) to keep things sorted out, of course. There's a string of nodes that can barely see each other for the trees, but can all see one tower over water... since water paths tend to be flakey, I'm thinking of putting two antennas on the tower, one above the other, hoping that the vertical spacing may have the two sectors (overlapping coverage, different 5.8 channels) flake out at different times. The real question is whether or not I can make a case that the Sky Pilot Rule applies, and thus the whole sector counts as PtP for regulatory power limit purposes. With TDMA it's only transmitting to one at a time, after all... -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
You be right! I have one hub with multiple backhauls on it. My problem was always the sectors being 15 to 19dbi gain but the grids being a good 29. My furthest out is 20 miles, not good for a 15dbi sector, but most other AP's can see the hub's sectors at at least a -74. In fact, I've USED them in a pinch to work around outages, though not within FCC guide lines.. (So what) but I never thought about just using it as part of the big vision. Hm Me- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote: Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea! I shall steal it from you and make it my own. Nuff said. Why not? I'm working on a design now that has 15-20 access points fed from a sector antenna on a tower. (I couldn't put that many separate links up if I tried, not between 5.725 and 5.85.) They'll need TDMA (Airmax or an Nstreme) to keep things sorted out, of course. There's a string of nodes that can barely see each other for the trees, but can all see one tower over water... since water paths tend to be flakey, I'm thinking of putting two antennas on the tower, one above the other, hoping that the vertical spacing may have the two sectors (overlapping coverage, different 5.8 channels) flake out at different times. The real question is whether or not I can make a case that the Sky Pilot Rule applies, and thus the whole sector counts as PtP for regulatory power limit purposes. With TDMA it's only transmitting to one at a time, after all... -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
If only I could sell these crap-ass Wifi-Plus antennas... Oh, the joy that would be had from becoming a non-chump..! Who else has drank THAT Kool-Aid? I could make a better antenna from scrap pickled up out of the yard. YES! I COULD! #1 Chump- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:46 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge Yep. Just one last lonely 433 board with an XR2 card. However we DO still use a 600a at the shop. BUT..! Working on putting another 433 back into service for a weird install with another XR2 card and a couple of Luxul circular polarized antennas. All from the Junk Pile.A private link that the 433AH would do nicely for and will get SOLD as a result! Gotta love that! (At full retail to boot!) Bob- Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge probably a mikrotik router or two On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:58 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the .001 unit? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Works fine. I’m now 99.999% UBNT! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Taking the plunge All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector. It will take time to physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done before the snow flies. Has anyone down this? Success? I know I cannot turn on Airmax till everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till you get it on? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted!
I've had the same issue. I have designs for stand-offs in my head but then I rethink it all due to maintenance issues. Swing arms? Dunno. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! I have no idea how people use standoffs. How do you access the gear on the standoff? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/13/2010 9:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I know you got 'em. I'm looking for some nice pics of the various ways of mounting sector antennas. I have a tower with 5 to 10 and even 20 structural tube to mount to, three sided classic 1980's tower. 300 footer. I'm the king at ripping off designs and welding up my own (sorry, my bad) and am looking for some good ideas for this thing. I'd say pretty please but I'm not that pretty and I never please. Well, so says the wife.. *sigh* Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted!
Weld to the tower?! Tower owner boy might wanna have a little talk with me if I ever did that little number! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! Great idea if the standoff it bolted to the tower. Tip: Dont weld it to the tower! On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: What I do most times is make a mark on the standoff and the tower. This is my reference marks. Then you can swing the arm in closer to the tower and work on it. Then just swing it back out and align your marks. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support _ From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:13:13 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! Depends on how high and how long the standoff is. Sometimes bucket, sometimes you can just reach it. A lot of times, only the antenna is on the end of the standoff so you dont need to get to it all that often, if ever. On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I have no idea how people use standoffs. How do you access the gear on the standoff? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/13/2010 9:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I know you got 'em. I'm looking for some nice pics of the various ways of mounting sector antennas. I have a tower with 5 to 10 and even 20 structural tube to mount to, three sided classic 1980's tower. 300 footer. I'm the king at ripping off designs and welding up my own (sorry, my bad) and am looking for some good ideas for this thing. I'd say pretty please but I'm not that pretty and I never please. Well, so says the wife.. *sigh* Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
CHRIS! You related to Gary out of Waverly?! Yeah, know of the fiber, weird... But makes sense due to the high priority governmental hoi polloi out that way. But giving me nasty ping times. Must be getting scanned before the return... Taking off the tin foil hat now. Albert- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Big, soon to get bigger, fiber routes in Piketon though. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:22 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test I've now been defaulted to PIKETON!Piketon is in the middle of nowhere and is a defunct nuclear plutonium enrichment facility for the US government. MIDDLE OF THE STICKS! HA! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Its worse then that here. Were 6ms off the local speedtest server. And it still gives us crap. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Ironton! For me Ironton SUCKS! Ping 108ms!!! Why in the hell are they defaulting g you to arm pit Ironton? Been there that place sucks! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test My fiver is through TW. They insist I use the Ironton server which, IMO always provides an accurate result. The issue is these people dont believe it and want to see their speed results elsewhere :( On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Speed test mini just after your upstream pipe. On Sep 12, 2010 7:29 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3134 - Release Date: 09/14/10 02:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted!
I vote for hover board. MARTY! Doc Brown- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! hoverboard I suppose... - truth is I am wondering the same thing - as I can see some of those being able to be used on some huge trees we have in locations - ie... my yard for example. On Sep 14, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I have no idea how people use standoffs. How do you access the gear on the standoff? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ On 9/13/2010 9:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I know you got 'em. I'm looking for some nice pics of the various ways of mounting sector antennas. I have a tower with 5 to 10 and even 20 structural tube to mount to, three sided classic 1980's tower. 300 footer. I'm the king at ripping off designs and welding up my own (sorry, my bad) and am looking for some good ideas for this thing. I'd say pretty please but I'm not that pretty and I never please. Well, so says the wife.. *sigh* Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
Yeah. Cool dude and a VERY snappy dresser. He cleans up nice! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris Cooper Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test He is my father. Know him? Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: CHRIS! You related to Gary out of Waverly?! Yeah, know of the fiber, weird……. But makes sense due to the high priority governmental hoi polloi out that way. But giving me nasty ping times. Must be getting “scanned” before the return……… Taking off the tin foil hat now. Albert- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Big, soon to get bigger, fiber routes in Piketon though. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:22 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test I’ve now been defaulted to PIKETON!Piketon is in the middle of nowhere and is a defunct nuclear plutonium enrichment facility for the US government. MIDDLE OF THE STICKS! HA! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Its worse then that here. Were 6ms off the local speedtest server. And it still gives us crap. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Ironton! For me Ironton SUCKS! Ping 108ms!!! Why in the hell are they defaulting g you to arm pit Ironton? Been there…….. that place sucks! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test My fiver is through TW. They insist I use the Ironton server which, IMO always provides an accurate result. The issue is these people dont believe it and want to see their speed results elsewhere :( On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Speed test mini just after your upstream pipe. On Sep 12, 2010 7:29 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3134 - Release Date: 09/14/10 02:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted!
That's impressive as hell. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! 110' in the ground? WOW! -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support _ From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:29:29 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! There are some of those towers spread around the country. Pretty amazing self supporting structures. You could park several semi trucks under it. I met the original owner of the one in WPB and he said it was $1.2 Million! He claimed it would take a cat5 hurricane. Pylon footings were 110' down. On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Patrick Shoemaker shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote: Hey, that looks like our Hughes Memorial Tower here in DC: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8 http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8hq=hnear=Washington,+District+of+Columbia; ll=38.963889,-77.027759spn=0,0.006539t=hz=18layer=ccbll=38.963786,-77.0 27765panoid=4Ar2-y_7Pek7ryLgjPdMUAcbp=12,142.6,,0,-30.81 hq=hnear=Washington,+District+of+Columbiall=38.963889,-77.027759spn=0,0. 006539t=hz=18layer=ccbll=38.963786,-77.027765panoid=4Ar2-y_7Pek7ryLgjPd MUAcbp=12,142.6,,0,-30.81 761 feet. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/14/2010 12:24 PM, RickG wrote: I know what you mean! In West Palm, we were on a 550' monster off I-95. You could see it for miles around. The equipment 330' up on a standoff that was 10' from the tower, 330' up. I admit, it took me two separate tries to get the guts to walk out on it. Pics attached. We were plagued by lightning hits that picked on the switch in the enclosure at the top. I moved the enclosure off the standoff and left the radios on the mast on the standoff which helped a lot. Eventually, I ran fiber up and that fixed the issue altogether. On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net mailto:li...@mtin.net mailto:li...@mtin.net%3e wrote: If it is a2-3 foot standoff it gets tricky. I replaced a 2 foot dish on a 3 foot standoff last year. Clipped the lobster tails to the tower and had to use the positioning hooks to balance myself on the end of the standoff. One of those places where once you get it positioned its fairly comfortable. Takes a little getting used not having any tower under you though. Had to go out on this standoff once: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30529837 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30529837l=89297015d2id=1289017769 l=89297015d2id=1289017769 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30529837 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30529837l=89297015d2id=1289017769 l=89297015d2id=1289017769 -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support *From: *Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net http://wispawirel...@ics-il.net http://ics-il.net *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wispa.org *Date: *Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:59:24 -0500 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! I have no idea how people use standoffs. How do you access the gear on the standoff? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/13/2010 9:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I know you got 'em. I'm looking for some nice pics of the various ways of mounting sector antennas. I have a tower with 5 to 10 and even 20 structural tube to mount to, three sided classic 1980's tower. 300 footer. I'm the king at ripping off designs and welding up my own (sorry, my bad) and am looking for some good ideas for this thing. I'd say pretty please but I'm not that pretty and I never please. Well, so says the wife.. **sigh** Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http
Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted!
Short enough for maintenance. I like. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! Attached is a pic of some simple standoffs. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:30:29 -0400 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! I've had the same issue. I have designs for stand-offs in my head but then I rethink it all due to maintenance issues. Swing arms? Dunno. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! I have no idea how people use standoffs. How do you access the gear on the standoff? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/13/2010 9:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I know you got 'em. I'm looking for some nice pics of the various ways of mounting sector antennas. I have a tower with 5 to 10 and even 20 structural tube to mount to, three sided classic 1980's tower. 300 footer. I'm the king at ripping off designs and welding up my own (sorry, my bad) and am looking for some good ideas for this thing. I'd say pretty please but I'm not that pretty and I never please. Well, so says the wife.. *sigh* Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Router Types
Affirmative on the negative. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Router Types I could be wrong, but I think when I checked that once it was an incorrect guess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: It's the last 4# of the MAC address I think - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Router Types Was that all that was in the essid? Qwest, 2wire, and a few others now do that. They place the default essid and key on the bottom and gamble that no two with the same las 4 digits land near each other. On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:34 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I havent done it in quite sometime, so today I fired up my laptop with netstumbler while driving around. I picked up a bunch of AP's with numbers such as 0171 6043, 1163, 0320, etc. Does anyone know what they are? - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Router Types
It's aliens. I've met them and they want to eat us. Was a secret but now not no mo' Steve- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Router Types It's a secret code that ATT techs can use to grab free wifi. Just kidding. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com wrote: Most likely it is the last 4 numbers of the serial number On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I could be wrong, but I think when I checked that once it was an incorrect guess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: It's the last 4# of the MAC address I think - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Router Types Was that all that was in the essid? Qwest, 2wire, and a few others now do that. They place the default essid and key on the bottom and gamble that no two with the same las 4 digits land near each other. On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:34 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I havent done it in quite sometime, so today I fired up my laptop with netstumbler while driving around. I picked up a bunch of AP's with numbers such as 0171 6043, 1163, 0320, etc. Does anyone know what they are? --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video
A man who pays attention and lives to 90+ Good man! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video Yep, exactly! Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to be tied off at 6+ feet of vertical height and hard hat 1/2 the distance from the tower from how high work is being done. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Tessco posted it to their Twitter and I saw it last night with only like 200 views. It's taken off like a rocket. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/15/2010 10:27 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: Mikrotik posted this on their Facebook post. I don't see the guy clipping off or a safety climb so don't do as he does (unless I missed the safety portion). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video
I double click all the way up. Tied up on two point s at all times. What are they thinking Nice example of luck. He then goes to the local gas station and buys a winning lottery ticket. Me.. I'd be wearing DIRT! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video Need to be tied off at 6+ feet of vertical height and hard hat 1/2 the distance from the tower from how high work is being done. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Tessco posted it to their Twitter and I saw it last night with only like 200 views. It's taken off like a rocket. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/15/2010 10:27 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: Mikrotik posted this on their Facebook post. I dont see the guy clipping off or a safety climb so dont do as he does (unless I missed the safety portion). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video
OSHA? We don't need no stinkin' OSHSA! (Self employed) HA! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video I must have missed the *OSHA says you don't have to be tied off* part of my advanced tower safety and rescue class lol You don't have to do anything... but the fines are really painful. One guy got a fine for walking too close to the tower while it was being worked on without a hard hat.. ka-ching -- smiling osha guy hand ticket for $20,000 to owner I guess at 2000ft the binocs the osha guys have might not see a small lanyard. Maybe they need the telescope optics upgrade. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 877-804-3001 x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:55 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video Yeah Oh but clipping unclipping makes me tiirred. (my best whiny voice via email). How about being dead? I don't care WHAT OSHA allows. I don't trust ANYONE's hand not to slip. Even though OSHA may say it's OK, how irresponsible of them to put this video out to the general public. And why, anyway? What is gained except for glorifying this activity? Yeesh... - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video Makes my palms sweat just watching it WTF isn't he tied off? What an idiot - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tower Climb video Mikrotik posted this on their Facebook post. I don't see the guy clipping off or a safety climb so don't do as he does (unless I missed the safety portion). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video
C R A Z Y! Reminds me of some of those Afgan tower videos. WTF is the first thing that comes to mind. Then cheese puffs is the second. Only cause I'm jonesin' for junk food Happens. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of DJ Anderson Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video You and me both Steve and I am not afraid of heights. -DJ Anderson Shelby Broadband From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video Makes my colon pucker just watching. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi W http://www.rcwifi.com/ ireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video Makes my palms sweat just watching it WTF isn't he tied off? What an idiot - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tower Climb video Mikrotik posted this on their Facebook post. I don't see the guy clipping off or a safety climb so don't do as he does (unless I missed the safety portion). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3136 - Release Date: 09/15/10 02:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik
I hear ya, my brother. No flaming here. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios and replace them with UBNIT. I'm sick and tired of spending all last night because two radios just dropped their IP setting to 0.0.0.0 and the other MAC to 0.0.0.0, today another system storm crash, what stayed up, my two Ubiquiti towers. You can say what you want but I have daily outages, we never find the cause and I'm sick of it... flame away I don't care I'm just sick of Mikrotik. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video
So where in the OSHA regs does it say that free climbing is okay because it takes too much time to move safety lines every few feet? I'm looking.. Don't see it... From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQv-o5Kgbko Regards, Chuck On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: If you Google for Stairway to heaven Tower you should be able to find it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/15/2010 6:54 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote: Better yet... Notice how its been removed from Youtube due to copyright issues. Yeah right... Randy Cosby wrote: Notice how they blur the faces? Respect for the dead. RIP. Randy On 9/15/2010 9:37 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Makes my palms sweat just watching it WTF isn't he tied off? What an idiot - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Tower Climb video Mikrotik posted this on their Facebook post. I don't see the guy clipping off or a safety climb so don't do as he does (unless I missed the safety portion). _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I _ -- Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby| InfoWest, Inc | www.infowest.com Vice President | 435-674-0165 x 2010 | facebook.com/infowest WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video
Exactly! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video It isn't. Above 6 feet you must have fall restraint of 5000 lbs+ or a SF2. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: So where in the OSHA regs does it say that free climbing is okay because it takes too much time to move safety lines every few feet? Im looking Dont see it .. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQv-o5Kgbko Regards, Chuck On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: If you Google for Stairway to heaven Tower you should be able to find it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/15/2010 6:54 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote: Better yet... Notice how its been removed from Youtube due to copyright issues. Yeah right... Randy Cosby wrote: Notice how they blur the faces? Respect for the dead. RIP. Randy On 9/15/2010 9:37 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Makes my palms sweat just watching it WTF isn't he tied off? What an idiot - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Tower Climb video Mikrotik posted this on their Facebook post. I dont see the guy clipping off or a safety climb so dont do as he does (unless I missed the safety portion). _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I _ -- Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby | InfoWest, Inc | www.infowest.com Vice President | 435-674-0165 x 2010 | facebook.com/infowest WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti RMA Process
I think they figured out that the cost of a bad and argumentative RMA process is greater than a smooth one. I have enough frustration and the UBNT RMA process is good for my mood. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:06 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti RMA Process Ubiquiti used to be hit and miss with RMA's, they have improved the process over time. Regards Michael Baird I have been throughly impressed with the RMA process at Ubiquiti. I had some blown up Bullets and they processed the RMA very quickly and had new units back to me within a few weeks. After dealing with the extremely long RMA process that Tranzeo has, it's refreshing to see a company like Ubiquiti stand behind there product. It's definitely one more reason to use their equipment. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Its Friday
The google pic brought back a dream I had once but the wire nightmare pic brought me back to reality. VOIP project with Wal-Mart... Swap 21's Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Its Friday http://uncommonpics.com/pic-3481-A-real-island-house WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Its Friday
Funny Friday? An oldie but a goodie. Google Street view weirdness... http://oddee.com/item_96965.aspx -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Its Friday One of my people sent me that, asking if the wireless was mine. I have some odd installs but nothing that is a island of its own. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: The google pic brought back a dream I had once but the wire nightmare pic brought me back to reality. VOIP project with Wal-Mart... Swap 21's Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Its Friday http://uncommonpics.com/pic-3481-A-real-island-house -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings
I would want to know the concrete strength, if it had rebar in it and how deep and wide it goes. As well if they are belled out. I'm all for saving a bunch of bucks but gotta make sure you stay within specs for the new tower. Also, bolting onto the old foundation, go deep! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:07 PM To: wireless Subject: [WISPA] Tower Footings Hi all, We have a 12m VersaTower that we are looking to install but where it needs installing there is already a very solid concrete foundations. We have only ever installed a tower by digging fresh foundations and was wondering if anyone knows of an acceptable techniche for mounting directly onto existing foundations or if this is just not a very good idea at all. Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: mailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency
Hey all. I've reached out and replied to Paul here and suggested that he join the group. If anyone has any help to give him, cool! Glen - didn't you go to Haiti after the quake? Maybe you could be the Dude on this one! Bob- -Original Message- From: Georges-Keny PAUL [mailto:paulgk...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:42 PM To: na...@nanog.org Subject: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency Hello all, My team is working on technical and technological specifications of a document for the deployment of Internet service on public frequencies in rural areas. We welcome your thoughts on the topic in terms of previous experiences and, well sure, you recommendation in terms of equipment. You should note that the environment in question is very mountainous with very precarious infrastructure conditions: no electricity, poor access, etc. We would like to deploy a service at minimal cost, using mainly open source software. All comments, suggestions, recommendations, draft, success stories are well come. Feel free to contact me for additional information. Warms regards, Georges-Keny PAUL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency
Paul is in Haiti. Considering the recent disaster there, you can imagine the hurdles he's trying to overcome. I feel for him! But it would be damn fun to do it! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:05 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Robert West; 'Georges-Keny PAUL' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency Paul, Every deployment requires a different approach and that approach should include the consideration of a great many factors. I am assuming that since you are being pointed here, you are working to build a Wireless ISP. I assume by public frequencies you are referring to U.S. unlicensed frequencies. If not in the U.S. can you say which country? Rural areas have different meanings to different people. Some might consider farmland rural whereas I consider forested areas with little or no electricity or phone service rural. Would you mind expanding in more details what rural means to you? Where in the world is this deployment going to be? What is the terrain? Elevation changes across what distance? Foliage type and density? Population/housing density? Housing type? Houses per acre or sq mile? These are some of the questions that need to be answered to define rural. Minimal cost is always the goal with any start-up deployment. No electricity implies the need for solar or generator based POPs. Depending upon the area this can complicate deployment and potentially add significant cost initially and over time. I can think of five major components to the cost of a WISP. 1. The cost of equipment. 2. The man-hours to prepare, install and maintain the equipment. 3. The cost of bandwidth from one or more upstream providers. 4. The scalability of the system. 5. The subscriber base. (what they will pay, % that take service, churn rate, and competition) But there are many other factors that affect each cost. For example; if the terrain is flat with no foliage and you can build large tower in the middle of town its significantly cheaper to deploy infrastructure to cover the population. However if that same population of one town has hills every few miles, with 100-200 ft trees all over, and the county will not allow the deployment of towers then there is a much larger and more spread out infrastructure to cover the same number of people. This requires more man-hours, more sites, more equipment between sites and on sites, consideration of frequency re-use for scalability, more time to offer service to the whole subscriber base, etc and etc. Your statement of using mainly open source software stands out. There are not many open source options compared to proprietary options for WISP equipment. Equipment/software choice should be determined by looking at all options then determining what fits this environment best. Coverage area size and Scale are probably the biggest factors. Also very few WISPs rely on a single equipment vendor/type for providing service. You will also need to consider what level of service will be provided. For example are you offering 256kbps, 1.5mbps or 6mbps? Every plan is different and every area requires a different plan based upon what the operator of the WISP is trying to accomplish. What are you trying to accomplish and in what area are you working? Look up zip codes 95959 and 95945 to see the area I work with. These are just some of the thoughts off the top of my head. If I can offer anything further I would be more than happy to do so. Cheers, Matt Jenkins SmarterBroadband On 09/18/2010 03:51 PM, Robert West wrote: Hey all. I've reached out and replied to Paul here and suggested that he join the group. If anyone has any help to give him, cool! Glen - didn't you go to Haiti after the quake? Maybe you could be the Dude on this one! Bob- -Original Message- From: Georges-Keny PAUL [mailto:paulgk...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:42 PM To: na...@nanog.org Subject: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency Hello all, My team is working on technical and technological specifications of a document for the deployment of Internet service on public frequencies in rural areas. We welcome your thoughts on the topic in terms of previous experiences and, well sure, you recommendation in terms of equipment. You should note that the environment in question is very mountainous with very precarious infrastructure conditions: no electricity, poor access, etc. We would like to deploy a service at minimal cost, using mainly open source software. All comments, suggestions, recommendations, draft, success stories are well come. Feel free to contact me for additional information. Warms regards, Georges-Keny PAUL -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
[WISPA] Things i say to customers..... And they actually believe them............
Today, installing old lady so she can do the Facebook Farmville thing She asks... If the service stops working, how do I find out about how long it will be down? I say. (you know it's coming..) Just check on our website, it should tell you an estimate of when it will be back up. If it goes over the time, just shoot us an email. And she says Oh, okay. I'll write that down Yes, I eventually told her it was a joke but most of them fall for it. My Bad- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings
So… Does the FBO know this or will it be a surprise in the morning with the first plane on final???!!! HA! Depends on the landing strip. Rome Air Force Base, yes. Small county strip, heck no! Here in Ohio, most landing strips were just a mile of asphalt to start. Then extended. No real base there. As a side note, the county where I am were GIVEN a 300 foot ATT long lines tower. They immediately demolished it as an air hazard because it was close to the county strip. (We actually used the thing as a marker when turning onto the base leg on approach) Now, of course, they are kicking themselves for the cash they are spending on new towers for the safety services. DUMMIES! Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:31 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings The concrete in question is actually a landing strip so is plenty strong/thick enough. As we would normally cement in the rods that the tower is mounted onto, I need to know how it would be done when the concrete is already there. Anyone doing this or is it just not the way to go? _ From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: 18 September 2010 23:38 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings I would want to know the concrete strength, if it had rebar in it and how deep and wide it goes. As well if they are belled out. I’m all for saving a bunch of bucks but gotta make sure you stay within specs for the new tower. Also, bolting onto the old foundation, go deep! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:07 PM To: wireless Subject: [WISPA] Tower Footings Hi all, We have a 12m VersaTower that we are looking to install but where it needs installing there is already a very solid concrete foundations. We have only ever installed a tower by digging fresh foundations and was wondering if anyone knows of an acceptable techniche for mounting directly onto existing foundations or if this is just not a very good idea at all. Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: mailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.mailscanner.info/ MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
I use a canvas bag! One that the belt on the safety harness can go through to hold it onto my back. I also have a zippered canvas bag that I strap on as well. (Keep the drinks in that one!) But I love the big orange 5 gallon buckets for serious hauling things up. I just make sure the drill or whatever is the heaviest is in the bottom of the bucket because, as you say, it will tip over on the way up. I've never lost anything on the way up. My problem was dropping stuff before I learned to put a rope on every wrench or whatever! I've seen some soft sided bags that are of a thicker canvas and have a rigid plastic bottom. They look pretty sturdy. I'd hate to have something not soft sided strapped to me while negotiating the transition the ladder makes 2/3rds up a 300 foot self-supporter. I bang my head enough on that, don't need to be snagged with a plastic bucket. Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] tower tool bag I've been taking a round canvas bag with my tools in it to the top of the towers that I work on. But it gets aggravating since it is soft sided and collapses when I set it down on the top of the water tank. So, I tired a 5 gallon bucket the other day but dont like that it wants to tip whenever it hits a obstacle on the way up. So, what do you guys use? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching
I'm a 2 bit operation. Really. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching There's a difference between a 2 bit operation and 2 bit code. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/20/2010 6:51 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: Thanks for the update. Thank goodness I run only 2 bit code! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Glenn Kelleygl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Just a heads up. Those of you who are running Debian, CentOS, RedHat and other systems similar. There is a pretty big security flaw on the 64 bit side of these systems now labeled as CVE-2010-3081 In short The flaw identified by CVE-2010-3081 (Red Hat Bugzilla bug 634457) describes an issue in the 32/64-bit compatibility layer implementation in the Linux kernel, versions 2.6.26-rc1 to 2.6.36-rc4. The compat_alloc_user_space() function is missing a sanity check on the length argument, and also a check to make sure the pointer to the block of memory in user-space that the process is attempting to write to is valid. This flaw was addressed via the upstream git commit c41d68a5 for the 2.6 Linux kernel. This function could be abused in other areas of the Linux kernel if the length argument can be controlled from user-space. A known example of this is the compat_mc_getsockopt() function for MCAST_MSFILTER that was introduced in upstream git commit 42908c69 (v2.6.26-rc1). You can easily fix this by implementing the patch located here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h= c41d68a513c71e35a14f66d71782d27a79a81ea6. As always - if you are stuck -please do not hesitate to contact me offlist - while the patch is from 9/19/10 - many wispa's have not patched their systems simply because they don't know they needed to. As always - when in doubt check the security lists out :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Things i say to customers..... And they actually believe them............
The reason the internets is slower upstairs is because they have to travel UP too far.. You should always have the cables horizontal. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Things i say to customers. And they actually believe them LOL, BOB! That kinda like telling them that the cables cant be all twisted up or it slows down the bits :) On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Today, installing old lady so she can do the Facebook Farmville thing She asks... If the service stops working, how do I find out about how long it will be down? I say. (you know it's coming..) Just check on our website, it should tell you an estimate of when it will be back up. If it goes over the time, just shoot us an email. And she says Oh, okay. I'll write that down Yes, I eventually told her it was a joke but most of them fall for it. My Bad- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings
I have a customer who has a grass field with a Cessna 172 and permission to use it anytime. Both the field and the 172. I never have. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings They use asphalt up there? Here they just upgraded the local landing strips from dirt to crushed stone :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: So. Does the FBO know this or will it be a surprise in the morning with the first plane on final???!!! HA! Depends on the landing strip. Rome Air Force Base, yes. Small county strip, heck no! Here in Ohio, most landing strips were just a mile of asphalt to start. Then extended. No real base there. As a side note, the county where I am were GIVEN a 300 foot ATT long lines tower. They immediately demolished it as an air hazard because it was close to the county strip. (We actually used the thing as a marker when turning onto the base leg on approach) Now, of course, they are kicking themselves for the cash they are spending on new towers for the safety services. DUMMIES! Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:31 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings The concrete in question is actually a landing strip so is plenty strong/thick enough. As we would normally cement in the rods that the tower is mounted onto, I need to know how it would be done when the concrete is already there. Anyone doing this or is it just not the way to go? _ From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: 18 September 2010 23:38 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings I would want to know the concrete strength, if it had rebar in it and how deep and wide it goes. As well if they are belled out. I'm all for saving a bunch of bucks but gotta make sure you stay within specs for the new tower. Also, bolting onto the old foundation, go deep! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:07 PM To: wireless Subject: [WISPA] Tower Footings Hi all, We have a 12m VersaTower that we are looking to install but where it needs installing there is already a very solid concrete foundations. We have only ever installed a tower by digging fresh foundations and was wondering if anyone knows of an acceptable techniche for mounting directly onto existing foundations or if this is just not a very good idea at all. Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: mailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.mailscanner.info/ MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement
We door hang. For sure links, we hang a flyer on their door on the OUTSIDE of their mailbox Never the inside, bad mojo with the post office by putting INSIDE the box. We use the circle sticklers by Avery and print them up on the laser printer. Essentially. FREE! As Blair condensed, Newspaper sucks,. Road signs, forget about it. Direct mail, $$$ Tried billboards ONCE, YIKE$! The door hanging gives us the biggest bang for the buck by far. I like cheap. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement for us... Newspaper -- 1 ... 24 weeks... 2 responses road signs -- 5 if by this you mean yard signs like real estate agents use Direct mail -- 9 But see below... demo trucks -- never tried billboards -- never tried word of mouth -- 9 We started direct mail this year... But we do it differently than many. we drive by and record addresses and rate them as low cost, medium cost or high cost install. Then we mail pre-qualified for service flyer's to all the low cost ones offering $50 off the install good for 2-4 weeks. The response rate is around 4% Marco Coelho wrote: What have been the most effective Marketing or Advertising tools some of you have used? Rated 0-10, 0 being worst, 10 being Best For us: Newspaper Advertisement -- 0 Road Signs -- 7 Direct Mail -- 2 Demo Trucks -- 5 Billboards -- 3 Word of Mouth -- 7 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script
Okay, fighting this nightmare of setting up a MT 411 board as a VPN. Anyone have a script of a step by step? I can connect remotely but can never see anything on the network. Throwing in the towel yet again. Me- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Specifications for Internet services on public frequency
Welcome, Paul! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Georges-Keny PAUL Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:55 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Specifications for Internet services on public frequency Hello all, Some people of the list, like Robert West, Glenn Kelley and of course Matt Jenkins, strongly recommended me this list for my case. We are located in Haiti. My team is working on technical and technological specifications of a document for the deployment of Internet service on public frequencies in rural areas. We welcome your thoughts on the topic in terms of previous experiences and, well sure, you recommendation in terms of equipment. You should note that the environment in question is very mountainous with very precarious infrastructure conditions: no electricity, poor access, etc. We would like to deploy a service at minimal cost, using mainly open source software. All comments, suggestions, recommendations, draft, success stories are well come. Feel free to contact me for additional information. Warms regards, Georges-Keny PAUL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script
Yep, did that. As far as the other interfaces, do I need to use ether3 as the vpn port? It's not plugged into anything, I was going into ether2 with the vpn as well as my local interface. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script Probably want to masquerade the subnet. What ips did you use for the tunnel in relation to the other interfaces? On Sep 21, 2010 8:29 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Okay, fighting this nightmare of setting up a MT 411 board as a VPN. Anyone have a script of a step by step? I can connect remotely but can never see anything on the network. Throwing in the towel yet again. Me- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] FTTH Show
W I N ! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:51 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] FTTH Show Wanted to go. Registered. Went there. They never took the money. So I used it to gamble instead. :-) On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: Anyone here going to this show? http://www.ftthconference.com/FTTH10/public/enter.aspx Still deciding whether I should go or not. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list mikro...@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti RMA Process
Mike was drinking that night. Happens.. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti RMA Process Yeah, they rock. Although, the last two times we RMA'ed Loco2's they sent us Nano2's. We told them. They said you sent us Nano2s I said no, we didn't. They said there's nothing more we can do Ok. Fine. I'll keep the more expensive product. Thanks! On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think they figured out that the cost of a bad and argumentative RMA process is greater than a smooth one. I have enough frustration and the UBNT RMA process is good for my mood. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:06 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti RMA Process Ubiquiti used to be hit and miss with RMA's, they have improved the process over time. Regards Michael Baird I have been throughly impressed with the RMA process at Ubiquiti. I had some blown up Bullets and they processed the RMA very quickly and had new units back to me within a few weeks. After dealing with the extremely long RMA process that Tranzeo has, it's refreshing to see a company like Ubiquiti stand behind there product. It's definitely one more reason to use their equipment. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Email hosting
Email? I stopped with the email long ago however, we have some that INSIST on it so we just add them to our email account on our host. We pay a whole 100 bucks for a shared hosting account at IX Hosting. If they want email, we just add it to our unlimited' accounts for a 5 buck a month charge. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Mann Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:23 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Email hosting Hello, We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with their service and have decided to make a change. Last time it was a bit of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can stick with for a long time. What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user range? Responsive support is our number one demand, followed by service reliability. Does anyone have experience with Google mail services for business? It is one among several we are considering. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Specifications for Internet services on public frequency
Who on the list are in South America? May be similar. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Specifications for Internet services on public frequency Do you have to contend with Foliage? If so do you have any pictures of what it looks like and how dense it is? This will have a major impact on what frequencies will be viable for use in your area. On 09/21/2010 06:54 AM, Georges-Keny PAUL wrote: Hello all, Some people of the list, like Robert West, Glenn Kelley and of course Matt Jenkins, strongly recommended me this list for my case. We are located in Haiti. My team is working on technical and technological specifications of a document for the deployment of Internet service on public frequencies in rural areas. We welcome your thoughts on the topic in terms of previous experiences and, well sure, you recommendation in terms of equipment. You should note that the environment in question is very mountainous with very precarious infrastructure conditions: no electricity, poor access, etc. We would like to deploy a service at minimal cost, using mainly open source software. All comments, suggestions, recommendations, draft, success stories are well come. Feel free to contact me for additional information. Warms regards, Georges-Keny PAUL -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script
Trying to connect remotely via windows based laptop, PtPP protocol. Setup the PtPP server with all the stuff, can connect just fine and get out to the internet but not into the private network. Missing something simple here. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script What type of VPN? Could you give a bit more info on the network layout? I could probably shoot you over a config if I had that info. -- Blake Covarrubias On Sep 21, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Probably want to masquerade the subnet. What ips did you use for the tunnel in relation to the other interfaces? On Sep 21, 2010 8:29 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Okay, fighting this nightmare of setting up a MT 411 board as a VPN. Anyone have a script of a step by step? I can connect remotely but can never see anything on the network. Throwing in the towel yet again. Me- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Specifications for Internet services on public frequency
Sounds like a road trip.. J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Georges-Keny PAUL Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Specifications for Internet services on public frequency Basicaly, We will deal with hard environment, but not really foliage. One of the advantage with our country, it's you can easily have a coverage from one point. The link will coverage long distance. Maybe with multiple hop from one point to an other. Just to have an idea just take a look on Google Earth. Search From Port-au-Prince to Hinche; from Hinche to Cap-Haitien and From Cap-Haitien to Fort-Liberté and Ouanaminthe. you'll have an idea. Regards, Keny 2010/9/21 Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net Do you have to contend with Foliage? If so do you have any pictures of what it looks like and how dense it is? This will have a major impact on what frequencies will be viable for use in your area. On 09/21/2010 06:54 AM, Georges-Keny PAUL wrote: Hello all, Some people of the list, like Robert West, Glenn Kelley and of course Matt Jenkins, strongly recommended me this list for my case. We are located in Haiti. My team is working on technical and technological specifications of a document for the deployment of Internet service on public frequencies in rural areas. We welcome your thoughts on the topic in terms of previous experiences and, well sure, you recommendation in terms of equipment. You should note that the environment in question is very mountainous with very precarious infrastructure conditions: no electricity, poor access, etc. We would like to deploy a service at minimal cost, using mainly open source software. All comments, suggestions, recommendations, draft, success stories are well come. Feel free to contact me for additional information. Warms regards, Georges-Keny PAUL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script
Thanks, all. I'll be working it later again.. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:07 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 23:09 -0400, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Let me clarify... As long as you get a valid IP on your PPTP client, from the PPTP Server, and the default route to the PPTP server, then you should be able to get to any of the IP's (public or private) being routed on that MK box. Of course. There are ways to make it work and there are other ways to make it work. For some reason, some people like to use the same subnet even though their interface (the pptp server interface) is not on the same segment. To make that work, you need proxy-arp (since arp won't work considering you are not on that segment). I don't have time to write a full tutorial for why it is that way. I am sure I have done so in the past...search the archives for proxy-arp and you'll likely find one. It is possible that I even posted a blog entry detailing this as well. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
That's about UK Pigeons. US pigeons are MUCH faster! My pigeons have a 13ms ping, verified by Speed Test .Net. I'm really getting tired of pigeon bashing by the media. It all depends on the flock. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons-are-f aster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Totally agree. When your Internet has to go 22,300 miles, at best, straight up for its first hop even the speed of light begins to feel slow. Speed of light = 186k miles per second. Light can travel that 22,300 miles 8.5 times in one second. That's back and forth 4 times in the time you blink. The median advertised download speed is 7Mbps. The reality is just over 4Mbps. Because Farmville needs that last 3Mbps. You can watch Netflix at full definition at those speeds. A hotel asked what their bandwidth was and we figured it to be just about 4Mbps - a hotel with dozens or hundreds of people. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Talk about trash articles. This was terrible. I hope next time they do one of these test they let us know so we can release a few hawks and a couple of guys with 12 gauge shot guns. Not to mention you ever tried to copy 300gb files from one computer to another over a standard 10/100 network. Pigeons would come close on that one as well. Why did he stop with 10 pigeons why not 100 then he could gripe about fiber being slow as well. Sheesh Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons -are-faster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
I talked to the underworld via Ouija board once. It sucked. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Did you ever talk on an overseas phone call that was via satellite? Did you ever talk on a maritime satellite phone link? It takes practice to communicate smoothly because of the long delay. It's why for voice traffic carriers prefer undersea fiber. What are modem banks? Greg On Sep 22, 2010, at 9:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The latency can't be because of the distance. Rf travels too fast for that. I expect there are large modem banks on the satellite. On Sep 22, 2010 9:40 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: That's the speed of light in a vacuum. It's somewhat slower in matter (air). I use satellite internet here and the latency is a little under 800ms at best. A ping has to go from my terminal up to the satellite, down to the earth station, back up from the earth station, and back down to my terminal. I blink at least once waiting for my ping to come back. Greg On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Totally agree. When your Internet has to ... WISPA Wants You! Jo... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here
Of course. Would take much less effort to support everything else My pal, Microsoft.. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Al Stewart Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here Yeah, but IE9 ONLY works with Windows 7. Al -- At 10:10 PM 09/22/2010 -0400, Robert West wrote: --- Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_00D1_01CB5AA2.EE501AA0 Content-Language: en-us Oh, hell. IE9. Get ready for the calls .. From: Microsoft [ mailto:micros...@e-mail.microsoft.com mailto:micros...@e-mail.microsoft.com ] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:01 PM To: robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here TechNet Flash http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=c15b7693984573bb16f64c1ec9ea5f3b6 2856b82c5ac7aca55dbf3e5db5a13b0bfce040e112d7c75 Mobile http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=c15b7693984573bb16f64c1ec9ea5f3b6 2856b82c5ac7aca55dbf3e5db5a13b0bfce040e112d7c75 | Unsubscribe http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=c15b7693984573bb07af7fbf437ff595a 276ab906722fa4366f9f65ccf6e4f3be6e463cf7146fd75 | Customize http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=c15b7693984573bbeacf81068c6a42443 d9a0733ea714a590a28dbe0d0ccbeaba4548f7f20186ea2 http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=c15b7693984573bbeacf81068c6a42443 d9a0733ea714a590a28dbe0d0ccbeaba4548f7f20186ea2 TechNet Flash Volume 12, Issue 19 | September 22, 2010 Top Stories Realizing the Full Value of Virtualized Environments http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=c15b7693984573bbe5753bdeedd9a0b74 c95605f3898e4adca7cbf25d45dadfeac6b7957c992396f The move from physical to virtual has become a sure bet for IT organizations, and with more payoff to come, it's time to make sure your infrastructure is aligned for maximum value. Get the Internet Explorer 9 Beta http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=c15b7693984573bb8c56dbf74777ff8d8 34079fd137b18e4b09e3e5e970726d4d87af944f66b5bc6 Internet Explorer 9 Beta is here, and it's fast. Web sites and applications look and perform as if they were native to your PC, and you'll notice a clean look and increased viewing area that makes Web sites shine. Taking full advantage of your PC's hardware through Windows, Internet Explorer 9 Beta delivers graphically rich and immersive experiences. Save 25% on TechNet Subscription Professional http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=c15b7693984573bbca9fc92fbd5ff6089 2009130308496eca8ccbc3d75bf324a64888d875045f5ea With an annual subscription, you can evaluate more than 70 full-version Microsoft software titles such as Windows 7 and Office 2010 without time or feature limits. But hurry, the offer ends October 31, 2010. Use promo code TNITQ413. Your Featured Content Download Microsoft Lync Server 2010 Release Candidate http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=8ee6f7c96b13bffa9ce761156ad6362d3 14d778ac6bacf3b34c6445c0793ca193d41ed9fbc9b859e Microsoft Lync Server 2010 RC ushers in a new connected experience. A single interface unites voice, IM, audio-, video-, and web-conferencing into a richer, more contextual offering and a single identity makes it easier and more efficient for users to find contacts, check their availability, and connect with them. Announcing the Springboard Series Windows 7 Deployment Learning Portal http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=8ee6f7c96b13bffafd98ce6b4ffaac4fa 7136ecbe89bf849fe2d6edbc48ea8d0b6e5ba601fda8a3e Think you know everything about deploying Windows 7? Find out with the Springboard Series Deployment Learning Portal, an online assessment and learning tool, designed to help IT pros identify their knowledge strengths and information gaps around Windows 7 deployment. New White Paper: Plan, Implement, and Support SQL Server Virtualization http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=8ee6f7c96b13bffafe85b5b11ad0b4e31 2b588e243cdf98d2accab574073d025ffb4203cb00de10c It is now possible to virtualize heavy SQL Server workloads and move virtual machines between Hyper-V hosts within a failover cluster without downtime. Security Talk Video: Azure Federated Identity Security Using ADFS 2.0 http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=8ee6f7c96b13bffa35c3783957e15cf8e c76b6ff60322082433a947265c5636179c2c1701ee4d403 We explain how to create an Azure application using Active Directory Federation Services (ADFS) 2.0 Security Token Service (STS), previously known as Geneva Server, for back-end authentication. Free Windows Server 2008 R2 E-book Offer http://click.email.microsoftemail.com/?qs=8ee6f7c96b13bffabe186d606061d26a1 d9bf24dc7521d37068d2b69754bfe9bdec699dc6c5aee4a Learn about the features of Windows Server 2008 R2 in the areas of virtualization, management, the web application platform, scalability, reliability, and interoperability with Windows 7. Download
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
Speechless... From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Another factor for us is contention. Our service provider's bandwidth is oversold. So the packets have to wait. We've used a couple of different providers and three different satellites and I don't think I've ever seen a sub 600ms ping. This is typical 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=0 ttl=55 time=704.483 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=714.199 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=787.396 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 3 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=1112.983 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=4 ttl=55 time=782.692 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=5 ttl=55 time=750.974 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=6 ttl=55 time=779.276 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=7 ttl=55 time=700.175 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=8 ttl=55 time=817.610 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=9 ttl=55 time=738.686 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=10 ttl=55 time=687.690 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=11 ttl=55 time=936.863 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=12 ttl=55 time=1325.409 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=13 ttl=55 time=842.547 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=14 ttl=55 time=762.454 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=15 ttl=55 time=705.879 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=16 ttl=55 time=912.125 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=17 ttl=55 time=723.781 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=18 ttl=55 time=754.773 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=19 ttl=55 time=704.012 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=20 ttl=55 time=664.184 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=21 ttl=55 time=733.904 ms 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=22 ttl=55 time=1108.232 ms Greg On Sep 22, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: Check your math... Best case scenarios: c = 3e8 m/s = 3e5 km/s l = 22000 mi = 35406 km (35406 km) / (30 km/s) = 0.118 s = 118 ms Round trip packet time due to RF delays only from ground point to ground point = 472 ms Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com http://www.vectordatasystems.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
Yep, just checked the log.. 6 lost packets. DAMN YOU FAISAL!! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Ah. Feeling rather full after dinner.. Bob.. Count your pigeons to see if any of them are missing.. Oh Boy !... The Stuffed Pigeons we had for dinner were very delicious...! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/22/2010 10:08 PM, Robert West wrote: That's about UK Pigeons. US pigeons are MUCH faster! My pigeons have a 13ms ping, verified by Speed Test .Net. I'm really getting tired of pigeon bashing by the media. It all depends on the flock. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons -are-f aster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here
Not Windows ME? I may need to upgrade -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here Also for Vista and 2008... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca wrote: Yeah, but IE9 ONLY works with Windows 7. Al -- At 10:10 PM 09/22/2010 -0400, Robert West wrote: --- Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_00D1_01CB5AA2.EE501AA0 Content-Language: en-us Oh, hell. IE9. Get ready for the calls…….. From: Microsoft [ mailto:micros...@e-mail.microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:01 PM To: robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here TechNet Flash Mobile | Unsubscribe | Customize TechNet Flash Volume 12, Issue 19 | September 22, 2010 Top Stories Realizing the Full Value of Virtualized Environments The move from physical to virtual has become a sure bet for IT organizations, and with more payoff to come, it's time to make sure your infrastructure is aligned for maximum value. Get the Internet Explorer 9 Beta Internet Explorer 9 Beta is here, and it's fast. Web sites and applications look and perform as if they were native to your PC, and you'll notice a clean look and increased viewing area that makes Web sites shine. Taking full advantage of your PC's hardware through Windows, Internet Explorer 9 Beta delivers graphically rich and immersive experiences. Save 25% on TechNet Subscription Professional With an annual subscription, you can evaluate more than 70 full-version Microsoft software titles such as Windows 7 and Office 2010 without time or feature limits. But hurry, the offer ends October 31, 2010. Use promo code TNITQ413. Your Featured Content Download Microsoft Lync Server 2010 Release Candidate Microsoft Lync Server 2010 RC ushers in a new connected experience. A single interface unites voice, IM, audio-, video-, and web-conferencing into a richer, more contextual offering and a single identity makes it easier and more efficient for users to find contacts, check their availability, and connect with them. Announcing the Springboard Series Windows 7 Deployment Learning Portal Think you know everything about deploying Windows 7? Find out with the Springboard Series Deployment Learning Portal, an online assessment and learning tool, designed to help IT pros identify their knowledge strengths and information gaps around Windows 7 deployment. New White Paper: Plan, Implement, and Support SQL Server Virtualization It is now possible to virtualize heavy SQL Server workloads and move virtual machines between Hyper-V hosts within a failover cluster without downtime. Security Talk Video: Azure Federated Identity Security Using ADFS 2.0 We explain how to create an Azure application using Active Directory Federation Services (ADFS) 2.0 Security Token Service (STS), previously known as Geneva Server, for back-end authentication. Free Windows Server 2008 R2 E-book Offer Learn about the features of Windows Server 2008 R2 in the areas of virtualization, management, the web application platform, scalability, reliability, and interoperability with Windows 7. Download Introducing Windows Server 2008 R2, written by industry experts Charlie Russel and Craig Zacker along with the Windows Server team at Microsoft. Office 2010 Security Baseline Beta Now Available for Download This latest release in the Security Compliance Manager Baseline Beta Review Program is designed to help you plan, deploy, and monitor the security of Microsoft Office 2010. This beta release also includes a setting pack for Office 2010. Join the beta, and influence the development of this new resource. Cloud Cover on Channel 9 Join Ryan and Steve as they cover the Windows Azure platform, digging into features, discussing the latest news and announcements, and sharing tips and tricks. Current episode: Deploying and Upgrading. Windows Azure Security Notes A collection of notes and lessons from exploring the cloud security space and working through Windows Azure security scenarios. TechNet Flash Sponsors SpectorSoft 360 Monitoring Software and Sunbelt Software: • Free Trial Download for TechNet Flash Subscribers • Free Trial Download: Business Antivirus for Windows Networks Editor's Note TechNet Flash Editor Mitch Irsfeld Increasing Your Odds with Virtualization It's hard to generalize the benefits of virtualization, partly because we don't fully know where the value ends. One of the main evolutionary paths leads to cloud computing, and the value there could
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
Boy, that's for sure. How many non-penetrating roof mounts have I refused to take after replacing the BS dish with the good stuff...? Lots. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? satellite internet sux! Try and argue!discussion has ended --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? To: fai...@snappydsl.net, 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 10:51 PM Yep, just checked the log.. 6 lost packets. DAMN YOU FAISAL!! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Ah. Feeling rather full after dinner.. Bob.. Count your pigeons to see if any of them are missing.. Oh Boy !... The Stuffed Pigeons we had for dinner were very delicious...! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/22/2010 10:08 PM, Robert West wrote: That's about UK Pigeons. US pigeons are MUCH faster! My pigeons have a 13ms ping, verified by Speed Test .Net. I'm really getting tired of pigeon bashing by the media. It all depends on the flock. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons -are-f aster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
Satellite Internet. Don't ask, don't tell. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? satellite internet sux! Try and argue!discussion has ended --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? To: fai...@snappydsl.net, 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 10:51 PM Yep, just checked the log.. 6 lost packets. DAMN YOU FAISAL!! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Ah. Feeling rather full after dinner.. Bob.. Count your pigeons to see if any of them are missing.. Oh Boy !... The Stuffed Pigeons we had for dinner were very delicious...! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/22/2010 10:08 PM, Robert West wrote: That's about UK Pigeons. US pigeons are MUCH faster! My pigeons have a 13ms ping, verified by Speed Test .Net. I'm really getting tired of pigeon bashing by the media. It all depends on the flock. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons -are-f aster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
Ended? Damn, and I had more whacked out stuff to say. Darn it! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? satellite internet sux! Try and argue!discussion has ended --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? To: fai...@snappydsl.net, 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 10:51 PM Yep, just checked the log.. 6 lost packets. DAMN YOU FAISAL!! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Ah. Feeling rather full after dinner.. Bob.. Count your pigeons to see if any of them are missing.. Oh Boy !... The Stuffed Pigeons we had for dinner were very delicious...! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/22/2010 10:08 PM, Robert West wrote: That's about UK Pigeons. US pigeons are MUCH faster! My pigeons have a 13ms ping, verified by Speed Test .Net. I'm really getting tired of pigeon bashing by the media. It all depends on the flock. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons -are-f aster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Referral Programs
We just give one free month. Same as we always did with the dial up that worked tremendously! But we DO give a FREE install and first month free to anyone to sends a farmer our way with a grain leg we can use!!! Well worth it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Referral Programs Same here but we give $25 off the install fee as well. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: We actually mail a check for $25 to the person who referred. The check in hand is a physical reminder of the referral. We feel that this is better than the nebulous credit they really don't see or interact with. On 09/23/2010 06:59 AM, Jeremy Rodgers wrote: We are looking into creating a solid referral program. Does anyone have input on what has worked well and what hasn't? We were thinking of a free month of service for the new customer and referring one. Is this too much? Any thoughts? -- *Jeremy J. Rodgers* Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 .But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
Today I finally figured out an Issue I've been having with a NanoStation5M. I have a customer who wanted service, was in trees but had a hot signal out at the road. Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house. That was 5 months or so ago. At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted service. Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano Loco2 at his place. Replaced my weird Airgrid Worked perfectly, everyone happy. 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not working. I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. I figure, bad crimp... Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up. All good. 2 days later, same issue. I reset it all to defaults, reconfigure, all okay. 2 days later, same thing. I downgrade firmware to 5.2. Couple of days later, no signal again. I'll also add I was getting some weird lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of. So I was fighting two battles. Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. DUH! I check it, apply, comes back empty. I do it again, same issue. I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any voltage. I checked my lag time issue at the AP. GONE! I then checked in the UBNT forums. It's an issue. After 20 days PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Replaced it with another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I'll be coming up with another MacGyver solution to service this dude Just so ya knows. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Morning report Copper Theft
Great! Now every riding lawn mower driving, scrap metal thief pulling a shopping cart full of cans will look at a tower like hitting the lottery. Wonderful. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:53 AM To: towerown...@yahoogroups.com Cc: tower-...@yahoogroups.com; towert...@contesting.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Morning report Copper Theft From the DHS Morning report. I have to admit, the story gave me a bit of a chuckle - 1 million dollars worth of copper? Wow! http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2010/09/copper_taken_from_communic atio.html Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
Been there. But mine finally died and the hard reset is now no more. Sucks. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! I have a NS5M (back haul) which is passing through power and data to a BulletM2 as AP and I recently had some strangeness - I changed settings in the NS5M and power to the BulletM2 would start cycling. The BulletM2 is my access to the NS5M so I couldn't get in that way. I also couldn't browse in via ethernet. This happened more than once. One time I think cycling the power fixed it. The last time it happened I couldn't browse into the NS5M so I had to do a hard reset and reprogram it. Greg On Sep 24, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Today I finally figured out an Issue I've been having with a NanoStation5M. I have a customer who wanted service, was in trees but had a hot signal out at the road. Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house. That was 5 months or so ago. At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted service. Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano Loco2 at his place. Replaced my weird Airgrid Worked perfectly, everyone happy. 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not working. I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. I figure, bad crimp... Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up. All good. 2 days later, same issue. I reset it all to defaults, reconfigure, all okay. 2 days later, same thing. I downgrade firmware to 5.2. Couple of days later, no signal again. I'll also add I was getting some weird lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of. So I was fighting two battles. Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. DUH! I check it, apply, comes back empty. I do it again, same issue. I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any voltage. I checked my lag time issue at the AP. GONE! I then checked in the UBNT forums. It's an issue. After 20 days PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Replaced it with another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I'll be coming up with another MacGyver solution to service this dude Just so ya knows. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
Eh? What ya mean??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why. On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for sharing! On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a NanoStation5M. I have a customer who wanted service, was in trees but had a hot signal out at the road. Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house. That was 5 months or so ago. At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted service. Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano Loco2 at his place. Replaced my weird Airgrid Worked perfectly, everyone happy. 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not working. I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. I figure, bad crimp……. Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up. All good. 2 days later, same issue. I reset it all to defaults, reconfigure, all okay. 2 days later, same thing. I downgrade firmware to 5.2. Couple of days later, no signal again. I’ll also add I was getting some “weird” lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of. So I was fighting two battles. Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. DUH! I check it, apply, comes back empty. I do it again, same issue. I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any voltage. I checked my lag time issue at the AP. GONE! I then checked in the UBNT forums. It’s an issue. After 20 days PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Replaced it with another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with another MacGyver solution to service this dude………. Just so ya knows. Bob- - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
Ah! I'll give that a shot. Thanks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power the second radio On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Eh? What ya mean??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why. On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for sharing! On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a NanoStation5M. I have a customer who wanted service, was in trees but had a hot signal out at the road. Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house. That was 5 months or so ago. At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted service. Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano Loco2 at his place. Replaced my weird Airgrid Worked perfectly, everyone happy. 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not working. I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. I figure, bad crimp……. Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up. All good. 2 days later, same issue. I reset it all to defaults, reconfigure, all okay. 2 days later, same thing. I downgrade firmware to 5.2. Couple of days later, no signal again. I’ll also add I was getting some “weird” lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of. So I was fighting two battles. Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. DUH! I check it, apply, comes back empty. I do it again, same issue. I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any voltage. I checked my lag time issue at the AP. GONE! I then checked in the UBNT forums. It’s an issue. After 20 days PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Replaced it with another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with another MacGyver solution to service this dude………. Just so ya knows. Bob- - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
Nope. No dice. Played with it after I took it down. Did a hard reset then. PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says. Before reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into. Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off. Maybe I need to show it a picture of my first wife..! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power the second radio On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Eh? What ya mean??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why. On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for sharing! On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a NanoStation5M. I have a customer who wanted service, was in trees but had a hot signal out at the road. Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house. That was 5 months or so ago. At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted service. Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano Loco2 at his place. Replaced my weird Airgrid Worked perfectly, everyone happy. 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not working. I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. I figure, bad crimp……. Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up. All good. 2 days later, same issue. I reset it all to defaults, reconfigure, all okay. 2 days later, same thing. I downgrade firmware to 5.2. Couple of days later, no signal again. I’ll also add I was getting some “weird” lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of. So I was fighting two battles. Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. DUH! I check it, apply, comes back empty. I do it again, same issue. I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any voltage. I checked my lag time issue at the AP. GONE! I then checked in the UBNT forums. It’s an issue. After 20 days PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Replaced it with another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with another MacGyver solution to service this dude………. Just so ya knows. Bob- - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
Don't believe it. I think it depends on the alignment of the planets. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! So you're saying if the secondary port is the one receiving power it will pass power to the primary port no matter what the state of the pass through check box? That's cool to know. Greg On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Philip Dorr wrote: Nothing, it will constantly stay on. Of course you cannot turn off the second radio. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ? -- Original Message -- From: Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power the second radio On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Eh?  What ya mean??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why. On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for sharing! On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees but had a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months or so ago.  At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up. All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults, reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also add I was getting some “weird† lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of.  So I was fighting two battles.  Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty.  DUH!  I check it, apply, comes back empty.  I do it again, same issue.  I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any voltage. I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE! I then checked in the UBNT forums………….  It’s an issue.  After 20 days PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with another MacGyver solution to service this dude………. Just so ya knows. Bob- - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
GARP! I see we have a reader here... Oldie but a goodie. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! Not according to Garp! On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com wrote: It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why. On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for sharing! On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Today I finally figured out an Issue I've been having with a NanoStation5M. I have a customer who wanted service, was in trees but had a hot signal out at the road. Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house. That was 5 months or so ago. At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted service. Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano Loco2 at his place. Replaced my weird Airgrid Worked perfectly, everyone happy. 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not working. I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. I figure, bad crimp... Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up. All good. 2 days later, same issue. I reset it all to defaults, reconfigure, all okay. 2 days later, same thing. I downgrade firmware to 5.2. Couple of days later, no signal again. I'll also add I was getting some weird lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of. So I was fighting two battles. Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. DUH! I check it, apply, comes back empty. I do it again, same issue. I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any voltage. I checked my lag time issue at the AP. GONE! I then checked in the UBNT forums. It's an issue. After 20 days PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Replaced it with another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I'll be coming up with another MacGyver solution to service this dude Just so ya knows. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
Yep. Secondary port.. Bullshit. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2. Short version: I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with Wireshark and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I had turned that off. I browsed into the unit in question and sure enough enable extra reporting was checked again! I unchecked the enable extra reporting box and apply the settings many times and it kept coming back checked. It was a long process to get the settings how I wanted but I finally got everything the way I wanted it, though no matter what I do the POE passthrough box remains unchecked even though I checked it and applied the settings many times. It is passing POE so I'm just disregarding the checkbox and hoping it's just a glitch in the UI. Long version: I took notes through this process for my own reference and to make sure I could tell the story accurately to UBNT. (Through the process below I tired various browsers to make sure the problem wasn't due to some fluke in one of the browsers) Using Wireshark I noticed extended reporting coming from an NS5M which is running Station WDS (one end of a back haul), firmware is 5.2.1 RC2. In NS5M web interface I turned off extended reporting. Hit change then test but after unit rebooted it wasn't showing itself to be in the test mode (and the associated count down to restore settings was not showing) and extended reporting checkbox was back on. Unchecked extended reporting (again) and clicked apply this time instead of test. Unit went off line and the BulletM2 (my point of access) on the NS5M's secondary port never came back up. (I was accessing the NS5M through the BulletM2 at this point) Had to power cycle NS5M to revive the NS5M/BulletM2 combo. Came back up with extra reporting checkbox checked. Downgraded to 5.2. The combo came back up for a minute, then dropped off line again, then came back up and stayed up. Extra reporting checkbox still checked. Decided to try changing another setting. I picked the lock to AP MAC and put in the MAC address of the other end of the back haul. Hit test, the unit rebooted and came back with the log to AP MAC field blank. Downgraded to 5.0.1, then upgraded back up to 5.2.1 Connected via ethernet and reset to defaults. Start programming the unit. Manually set ack timing. Setting stuck. Turned on pass through, after reboot checkbox was unchecked. Tried it again, again the box is unchecked after the unit reboots. Restored to defaults again. Tried disabling extra reporting and turning off ack timeout auto adjust and turning on POE passthrough all at the same time. None of the settings stuck (according to the web interface but the Bullet M2 on the secondary port was up. Set the necessary changes on the wireless and network tabs. All settings stuck without a hitch. Returned to Advanced and set POE ack timeout auto adjust off and disabled extra reporting off (without changing POE passthrough - it was unchecked but passing through) and those settings stuck. The unit's behavior is as I want it. I was even able to lock the unit to the AP's MAC address. The only discrepancy is the POE passthrough is unchecked even though it's passing through (as I want it to). I'm thinking about TFTP'ing in the 5.2.1 RC2 firmware since it sounds like TFTP'ing the firmware in rewrites/partitions more of the unit's memory than upgrading the firmware via the web interface. I'll post this to the UBNT forum tomorrow. Greg On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Robert West wrote: Nope. No dice. Played with it after I took it down. Did a hard reset then. PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says. Before reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into. Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off. Maybe I need to show it a picture of my first wife..! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power the second radio On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Eh? What ya mean??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! It works perfectly fine if you power through
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
Yep. I like it, don't work. Well... For just a bit. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! Cool idea though On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Robert West wrote: Yep. Secondary port.. Bullshit. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2. Short version: I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with Wireshark and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I had turned that off. I browsed into the unit in question and sure enough enable extra reporting was checked again! I unchecked the enable extra reporting box and apply the settings many times and it kept coming back checked. It was a long process to get the settings how I wanted but I finally got everything the way I wanted it, though no matter what I do the POE passthrough box remains unchecked even though I checked it and applied the settings many times. It is passing POE so I'm just disregarding the checkbox and hoping it's just a glitch in the UI. Long version: I took notes through this process for my own reference and to make sure I could tell the story accurately to UBNT. (Through the process below I tired various browsers to make sure the problem wasn't due to some fluke in one of the browsers) Using Wireshark I noticed extended reporting coming from an NS5M which is running Station WDS (one end of a back haul), firmware is 5.2.1 RC2. In NS5M web interface I turned off extended reporting. Hit change then test but after unit rebooted it wasn't showing itself to be in the test mode (and the associated count down to restore settings was not showing) and extended reporting checkbox was back on. Unchecked extended reporting (again) and clicked apply this time instead of test. Unit went off line and the BulletM2 (my point of access) on the NS5M's secondary port never came back up. (I was accessing the NS5M through the BulletM2 at this point) Had to power cycle NS5M to revive the NS5M/BulletM2 combo. Came back up with extra reporting checkbox checked. Downgraded to 5.2. The combo came back up for a minute, then dropped off line again, then came back up and stayed up. Extra reporting checkbox still checked. Decided to try changing another setting. I picked the lock to AP MAC and put in the MAC address of the other end of the back haul. Hit test, the unit rebooted and came back with the log to AP MAC field blank. Downgraded to 5.0.1, then upgraded back up to 5.2.1 Connected via ethernet and reset to defaults. Start programming the unit. Manually set ack timing. Setting stuck. Turned on pass through, after reboot checkbox was unchecked. Tried it again, again the box is unchecked after the unit reboots. Restored to defaults again. Tried disabling extra reporting and turning off ack timeout auto adjust and turning on POE passthrough all at the same time. None of the settings stuck (according to the web interface but the Bullet M2 on the secondary port was up. Set the necessary changes on the wireless and network tabs. All settings stuck without a hitch. Returned to Advanced and set POE ack timeout auto adjust off and disabled extra reporting off (without changing POE passthrough - it was unchecked but passing through) and those settings stuck. The unit's behavior is as I want it. I was even able to lock the unit to the AP's MAC address. The only discrepancy is the POE passthrough is unchecked even though it's passing through (as I want it to). I'm thinking about TFTP'ing in the 5.2.1 RC2 firmware since it sounds like TFTP'ing the firmware in rewrites/partitions more of the unit's memory than upgrading the firmware via the web interface. I'll post this to the UBNT forum tomorrow. Greg On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Robert West wrote: Nope. No dice. Played with it after I took it down. Did a hard reset then. PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says. Before reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into. Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off. Maybe I need to show it a picture of my first wife..! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
browsers to make sure the problem wasn't due to some fluke in one of the browsers) Using Wireshark I noticed extended reporting coming from an NS5M which is running Station WDS (one end of a back haul), firmware is 5.2.1 RC2. In NS5M web interface I turned off extended reporting. Hit change then test but after unit rebooted it wasn't showing itself to be in the test mode (and the associated count down to restore settings was not showing) and extended reporting checkbox was back on. Unchecked extended reporting (again) and clicked apply this time instead of test. Unit went off line and the BulletM2 (my point of access) on the NS5M's secondary port never came back up. (I was accessing the NS5M through the BulletM2 at this point) Had to power cycle NS5M to revive the NS5M/BulletM2 combo. Came back up with extra reporting checkbox checked. Downgraded to 5.2. The combo came back up for a minute, then dropped off line again, then came back up and stayed up. Extra reporting checkbox still checked. Decided to try changing another setting. I picked the lock to AP MAC and put in the MAC address of the other end of the back haul. Hit test, the unit rebooted and came back with the log to AP MAC field blank. Downgraded to 5.0.1, then upgraded back up to 5.2.1 Connected via ethernet and reset to defaults. Start programming the unit. Manually set ack timing. Setting stuck. Turned on pass through, after reboot checkbox was unchecked. Tried it again, again the box is unchecked after the unit reboots. Restored to defaults again. Tried disabling extra reporting and turning off ack timeout auto adjust and turning on POE passthrough all at the same time. None of the settings stuck (according to the web interface but the Bullet M2 on the secondary port was up. Set the necessary changes on the wireless and network tabs. All settings stuck without a hitch. Returned to Advanced and set POE ack timeout auto adjust off and disabled extra reporting off (without changing POE passthrough - it was unchecked but passing through) and those settings stuck. The unit's behavior is as I want it. I was even able to lock the unit to the AP's MAC address. The only discrepancy is the POE passthrough is unchecked even though it's passing through (as I want it to). I'm thinking about TFTP'ing in the 5.2.1 RC2 firmware since it sounds like TFTP'ing the firmware in rewrites/partitions more of the unit's memory than upgrading the firmware via the web interface. I'll post this to the UBNT forum tomorrow. Greg On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Robert West wrote: Nope. No dice. Played with it after I took it down. Did a hard reset then. PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says. Before reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into. Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off. Maybe I need to show it a picture of my first wife..! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power the second radio On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Eh? What ya mean??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why. On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for sharing! On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a NanoStation5M. I have a customer who wanted service, was in trees but had a hot signal out at the road. Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house. That was 5 months or so ago. At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted service. Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano Loco2 at his place. Replaced my weird Airgrid Worked perfectly, everyone happy. 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not working. I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. I
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
Yep. Right now I can check, uncheck.. All the same. Still passes through. They should default it to pass through and forget about it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! I just upgraded my units to 5.2.1. In the GUI the passthrough checkbox is unchecked even though it's passing through. I checked the box, applied, and it's still unchecked but passing through. On the forum someone told me to reset the unit, reflash the firmware, and reset it again. I'm going to do that later. Greg On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Robert West wrote: Same browser as when I configured it and I can still turn the secondary ether PoE on and off on other Nano5Ms. Am running 5.2.1, yeah, even downgraded. Posts on UBNT forums are building on this issue. After 20 days or so it will burn out. Here is what I came up with after I took it down. This is part of my post to the forums . I had an AirGrid set on a 15 foot mast out at the road for a customer because of trees. Ran an underground line of double shielded, flooded Cat5, direct bury, with ground wire. Everything grounded and working fine. His neighbor wanted service so I swapped the grid out with a Nano5M, plugged a Nano Loco into the secondary ether pointing to another nano in the neighbors window. Ran just fine for almost a month THEN crazy issues. Neighbor lost connection but the customer hard wired into the Nano5m was just fine. Thought it might be a bad crimp on the jumper, replaced it, it fired up. Was a mess ever since. Power on, off, on, off. Then I saw the PoE Pass-through checkbox empty. Checked it, applied, box again empty. Couldn't get it to stick. Did a truck roll, power to NanoL gone. Took the Nano5M down and brought to the shop. Bench tested. No secondary power, no check in the box. Diud a hard reset. Still nothing. Downgraded firmware, another hard reset. Secondary Port now ON! BUT. Checkbox still empty. Checked the box, applied. Check still in the box. Remove check, apply, check gone, BUT power still on at the secondary port! I can not turn off the power to the secondary power! Upgraded firmware Hard reset. Still on no matter is box is checked or not. Now for the REST of the story and my guess on this.. The cable run to the pole is 100 feet. I used the 15V UBNT power injector that came with the Nano5M. After the install I checked the operation and all was as smooth as silk. Quick booting, fast throughput on both units. When I took the unit down and got it operating I was also using a 15v UBNT power injector however my cable length on the bench was only 8 feet. I watched the lights on the nano and also watched how long UBNT Discovery utility took to pick it up. Long. It looked like it was struggling to connect to the wired lan. After it came up I plugged a bullet into the secondary port and power cycled it all. Long struggle to connect to the wired lan. Sometimes Discovery would see it, sometimes not. So.. Pulled out an OLD 3Com 24V 3A power injector and plugged the setup into it. Fired up FAST! Fired up every time and would not fail. Still unable to turn off the power to the secondary port so I reinstalled the unit at the customer site but with the 24V 3A power injector. It's been running almost 24 hours now and I'm able to talk to everything connected to it remotely and all pings are perfect. My guess.. It was under powered. It may have not had enough power to keep the secondary port powered, damaged the switching circuit and is now stuck giving power to the secondary port with no way of turning it off. Possible constant fluttering of the circuit on and off burned it out. With it being stuck on, it's good for now. I wouldn't mind not having an option to turn off the Poe, it can always be on as far as I'm concerned. Or if nothing else, have it default to on in case of a failure of the switching circuit.. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout! Two quick points, I have seen something like this due to browser.what browser are u usingdid you try a different browser. Also, 5.2.1 full has been released...try that as well... Faisal On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2. Short version: I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with Wireshark and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's
Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP
Pasadena wireless has the new AirGrids in stock. I'm gonna test them myself as a CPE, we'll see how they perform. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP I use the Pac grids with the feed that looks the same as the solid dish feed, not the little metal reflector. The reflectors keep falling off in wind, birds taking them, etc (we pulled FOUR out of a birds nest after the client saw the bird take it). This client only lost 3, we assume one is from another site down the road. I am very interested in getting my hands on the new ubnt units with a built in dish, yummies. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com wrote: I want to use the Bullet for a CPE. Sorry, I should have clarified what I was looking for in my original post. Josh Luthman wrote: I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap. If I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid. They work find but in some installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Pat O'Connor Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP Just looking to see what everyone else is using. I'm in the test phase of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out. TIA Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] telco cabinet in unserved area
I had a dream once about something similar. Then I woke up and discovered that I am the one who really installed it. If hot glue was involved then I could certainly take credit for this one. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:15 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] telco cabinet in unserved area Roadside SLC/wiring cabinet. http://www.f64.nu/gallery2007/view_photo.php?full=1set_albumName=album182i d=DSC7491 We're looking to do some wireless in the neighborhood here. Looks like the phone company has a tough time just keeping dialtone working here. Judging by the ducttape marks on the right, it looks like it's been this way for a while. -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?
Mike has used some decent looking chain mounts. Hey Mike, any suggestions??? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? I just use good lag screws on the standard (or long) sat arms most of the time. marlon - Original Message - From: AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden utility pole? We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a wooden utility pole. I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit overkill for a single omni. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP
But I'm looking at that Backfire dish. Looks good. Grids are okay, I just have issues with the splatter. On the flip side, I have two CPEs connected to a backhaul grid WAY off its path and towards the backside just cause it was the best signal I could get. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap. If I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid. They work find but in some installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Pat O'Connor Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP Just looking to see what everyone else is using. I'm in the test phase of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out. TIA Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT forBullet M5HP
Workin' on it, dude. Being delivered Thursday. Already have 2 customers in line for install with them. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT forBullet M5HP I want feedback on those! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: They have the AirGrid now. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT forBullet M5HP Just looking to see what everyone else is using. I'm in the test phase of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out. TIA Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Maps
I've come across that one before but I found, at least in my case, that the best place for a fiber map is our county engineers office. They have to have maps of all utility installs since they take care of ditch cleanout and such. You just have to talk them into letting you see them. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:02 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Network Maps Since some of you don't seem to be aware of what's around you, I have included the following link. I indirectly came across this page today (I believe through Peter's Twitter) and I believe it's the best compilation of network maps throughout the US and around the world. www.telecomramblings.com/network-maps/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] AirGrids
Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend. First thing I see is that when I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in looking at the sky. Not able to see the power light from the ground or any RSSI. Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets, getting in through the LED strip. In horizontal, the strip is facing up. Makes more sense to face it all down. I also see a need to wrap with tape where the feed and the feed support meet. Just first impressions. Bob- Just Micro.NET WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AirGrids
Well, first off I talked to Ben over at UBNT last night and he said they are changing the design with the next batch so that the LEDs are down facing. The issue is, there are two locking tabs that snap in for either horizontal or vertical polarization so you are limited to how it's oriented. The antenna feed is one part and it snaps into the feed retainer that is attached to the grid. The retainer protrudes through the rear of the grid and ends with the port for the Cat5 to enter and a couple of small drain holes. These are not on the very end but on a flat spot on the bottom of the retainer. Flip the antenna so that the LEDs are facing down then the drain holes and Cat5 entry hole is now facing UP. The old, Damned if you do and damned if you don't But they are fixing the issue. One of those things they can't see unless they are in the field. I'm sure the lights being up made sense sitting in an office looking at the thing from above. If I'm looking at an antenna from above, I'm either high up on a tower or I'm trying to install it in a hole. :) I played with the 65 foot cable limit last night too. Used a 100' cable and the USB PoE will power it but just enough for the lights to come on, no communication with it. Tried a 9v, 12v and a 15v PoE. 9 and 12 worked fine but the 15V made it yell at me. I settled on a 9V injector and my test unit has been working fine since last night. Ben said the PoE they will be offering as an option starts out at 5V. I asked for a possible chart from them on suggested voltage VS. cable length so we don't fry them out of trial and error. He mentioned they are working on design to allow it to use the 24v PoE... I'm actually thinking of swapping out a pac grid and MT box back haul from a solar site to see how the power drain is from these since they require such a low voltage. In all, I installed 2 last night and they were great! The mounting hardware is beefy and says quality. The unit doesn't feel clunky at all, unlike most of the Pac Wireless grids and the install went fast with the radio and grid being just one unit. The first install took a whole 20 minutes including running the cable and drilling a hole. Of course it was a cable run of only 50 feet, not a big job, but was still quick. I'm sold on them. Still gotta use the Mikrotik though, the Dude server rocks. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids Having not seeing one in person, can't you just flip it 180* so the lights face down ? I take it the answer is no, but I was just wondering why. -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:01:05 -0500 Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend. First thing I see is that when I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in looking at the sky. Not able to see the power light from the ground or any RSSI. Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets, getting in through the LED strip. In horizontal, the strip is facing up. Makes more sense to face it all down. I also see a need to wrap with tape where the feed and the feed support meet. Just first impressions. Bob- Just Micro.NET --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test
Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't even know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] test Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
Same here. High price doesn't denote high quality. Besides, high price tag items can blow up the same as lower priced ones. MT and UBNT work just fine. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Morris Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:54 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Actually, we do Gino and have never had a problem. The latest generation of MT gear is pretty near bulletproof if deployed properly. I suspect there are quite a few people here that run their businesses on gear that you would turn you nose up at, so your condescension isn't really necessary. Yikes right back at ya. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone feed to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed DS3 Link! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off list. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be able to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for you for free if you wish. http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn WISPA Members get free assembly. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at such a short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at that range. Sent from my iPhone --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] test
That would be SOS in morse. So there! That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test ha ha heres a test ... _ _ _ ... wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real fast ;-) On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't even know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] test Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
Just not enough Ham operators on this list. The Hams would be pushing for the cheapest way of doing links instead of all the licensed and high dollar crapola. Some Hams could figure out how to run 300mb over a 20 mile link using parts from 8 track tape players and a jar of pickle juice, stuffed into an old Tupperware container and have it run 24 hours a day for 6 years. No reason why a MT 433 board can't run reliably for years. It mostly has to do with the installation. Some high price gear will forgive stupid installation but done right, the cheaper equipment will perform just as well and probably better. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul I'll second that. Or is it 3 now? We have MT links that have been in places for years running dual-nstreme and get 70Mbps out of them all day, everyday. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: This guy. Out of every backhaul in the network the most reliable has been the rb333 with engenius cards followed by an rb532 (yes 532 the piece of junk). Tied for third are the smaller 411/r52 links (only a year on one and a few weeks on the other, but so far 100%). This includes Ceragon/Radwin links and Redline. On 1/30/10, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone feed to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed DS3 Link! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off list. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be able to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for you for free if you wish. http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn WISPA Members get free assembly. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at such a short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at that range. Sent from my iPhone --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You
Re: [WISPA] test
I tried to learn semaphore as a kid but I just couldn't get it. So here I was, out with my friend Timmy exploring the woods and he goes and falls into a well. I had the flags and I just couldn't remember the positions to signal the rangers that we needed help for Timmy who fell into the well. So I had to rely on his dog Lassie had to go for help. The rest is history -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test Maybe not strange, but happy: http://www.happychild.org.uk/ifs/3mrs.htm This wouldve been nice as a child: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/morse.shtml This is kinda funny: http://www.zianet.com/sparks/coder.html -RickG On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: That would be SOS in morse. So there! That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test ha ha heres a test ... _ _ _ ... wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real fast ;-) On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't even know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] test Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test
We've gone backwards. The next phone to come out will have smoke signals. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] test What is faster morse code or cell phone texting... http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoID=2025791 097 Yeah... Kids today got things to learn ;) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test Maybe not strange, but happy: http://www.happychild.org.uk/ifs/3mrs.htm This wouldve been nice as a child: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/morse.shtml This is kinda funny: http://www.zianet.com/sparks/coder.html -RickG On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: That would be SOS in morse. So there! That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test ha ha heres a test ... _ _ _ ... wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real fast ;-) On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't even know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] test Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
I stand corrected. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Lambert Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 05:38:06PM -0500, Robert West wrote: Just not enough Ham operators on this list. The Hams would be pushing for the cheapest way of doing links instead of all the licensed and high dollar crapola. Don't say cheap. It's simply more cost effective. Labor is free, after all. Some Hams could figure out how to run 300mb over a 20 mile link using parts from 8 track tape players and a jar of pickle juice, stuffed into an old Tupperware container and have it run 24 hours a day for 6 years. Pickle juice has horrible RF properties. Use a mixture of 50% carrot juice, 20% vidalia onion, and 30% green, unripe, lemon squeezeings. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org PS. people please trim at least the footer lines the mailing put on. I must have had to delete at least 200 lines of nothing but footers. Also, if you're going to top post, you might as well not even include the original message. Particularly in these kinds of threads. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] interesting results
I'm with ya, Rick. I have 2 installed the same way. Not in the rules really, since my backhauls are pumping the power, too much for a PTMP as that ends up turning it into but as a temporary solution, it's cool on this side of things. :) One was for lack of a sector and the other was because, due to trees, it was the best signal I could get until I get another AP finished. (signal is a -84, makes me nervous!) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] interesting results I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my 5GHz sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul grids and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused! (Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.) -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] power
I have a few like that. Cheap and quick for low density population. Use a pac grid for the backhaul and a bullet with an omni for the AP. Check your polarity, make sure you're on the right orientation and right radio. My grids are horz. Pol and the omnis, well. Vertical of course! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] power OK, I need a little input. I've got several poor mans repeaters around by using a pair of bullets, one for backhaul and the other for the AP. Today, I installed a Bullet on a new customer that was a stones throw away from the AP. At full power, he got just under 1Mbps. Turning down the power, he got 3Mbps+. Is turning down the power on the CPE side on a test and trial basis or is there some kind of method to it? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] power
Yes. Get the eyes off the throughput and pay attention to your signal level first. Right on the money, there, Nick. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] power I'd turn it down till you hit about a -60 signal wise or in the 50's somewhere. should give you the best results. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:08 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] power OK, I need a little input. I've got several poor mans repeaters around by using a pair of bullets, one for backhaul and the other for the AP. Today, I installed a Bullet on a new customer that was a stones throw away from the AP. At full power, he got just under 1Mbps. Turning down the power, he got 3Mbps+. Is turning down the power on the CPE side on a test and trial basis or is there some kind of method to it? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] interesting results
On my Nano5's I've had the default show up as Horizontal, of all things. On the 5M's I've had it different depending on firmware. Go figure. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] interesting results So if I follow, You hooked people to your backhaul radio, And the CPE was a NS5? If I'm not mistaken, The default antenna setting on the NS5's is Adaptive, so it will pick. Let me know if I'm way off on the scenario... Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] interesting results I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my 5GHz sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul grids and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused! (Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.) -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
