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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org
Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 11:28 PM
Subject: [313] T-Shirt Discussion
1--I like the front and back, but I am concerned about how the 909
lettering
will turn out on a T-shirt because it
Speaking of overseas members, are there many Irish members out there?
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i am understanding your points
you do not want any music on this list unless it is techno???
what is techno? because it comes from detroit?
well then what if i mention something like drexciya bubble metropolis??
that is a detroit record with trancey sounds - mad mike banks has made a
lot of
I like Chicago Techno too! that Mark Verbos is one helluva producer! has
anyone seen any new releases out on his label Simple Answers???
jeff
THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE FUNK AND KEEP IT HOLY
-George Clinton
-Original Message-
From: Dustin A Sledgianowski
Dustin A Sledgianowski wrote:
i just noticed this - this is why you are lost
Proper techno is deep, soulful and funky and trance
is Souless and funkless!
there is no such thing as proper techno
if you have to follow guidelines to what is good music then really you
dont understand at
I was just wounderingdoes anyone in the Detroit/Ann Arbor area have
any turntables they want to get rid of?
-
Christos Michalakis I'm a Canadian. Its kind of like an American,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] except
he has a few releases out on Black Nation which is Jay Denhams (spelled
wrong i am sure) label. that is all the info i have on himcheck out the
black nation web page though. they should be able to help.
jeff
THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE FUNK AND KEEP IT HOLY
-George
Hipnotech 5
Side A: Generation XR-9
Afterlife
Side B: Hyperlinx
Cityblues
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From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:59 AM
Subject: [313] Hypnotech
as far as i know there are 4 relaeses on
yo list
t shirt designs 11 - 14 by glyph1001 are very nice, they get my vote.
would look supa cool on a black or dark t shirt.
what kinda t shirts might be available? like sleeve / neck type? thanx
p-dogg
Creation Rebel is Slip's own label. Timeblind aka Chris Sattinger is an old
friend of his, they go back to the old Minneapolis Rave scene and now both live
in Brooklyn. Slip and Heiko Laux are also good friends, and Heiko runs
Kanzleramt. Slip also
records for Kanzleramt alot.
CR has six
Well.. i think i've just located one of the
best Novel 23 tunes ever. It's featured on
the new Music Volume One compilation
on Benbecula Records..
Novel 23's track is simply stunning to the
nth degree --intelligent listening music that
unfolds into a digital mess of harmonious
beats,
It was the Windsor company Bassline. I'm sure I can find a sticker that
someone had so kindly placed my back for a while and dig up at contact number
if your interested.
-stacey
It's amazing how a credible Detroit DJ can make a record you hate a little
more palatable (even if you still dont want it)...thats probably why theres
a 313 list and not a 212 or 312 list, right?
Sam Valenti IV
Ghostly International, LLC.
From: Scott MacInnis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Samuel
Those very kind people at KMS records have made some of their back
catalogue available on mp3.com. This includes one of my all time
favourites Ahnongay... I seem to remember it used to get quite a bit of
play on dreaming daisies (for those in adelaide :)... anyway enjoy!
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 06:30:37PM +0930, Scott Vallance wrote:
Those very kind people at KMS records have made some of their back
catalogue available on mp3.com. This includes one of my all time
favourites Ahnongay... I seem to remember it used to get quite a bit of
play on dreaming daisies
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 05:43:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Nick=20Walsh?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [313] What Is Up With 313?
I've been on this list for about 3 months now and I'm
beginning to notice a hierarchy in here. Why the f*!k
do ppl have to bitch each other just for
Can anyone help me with artists and/or labels for these songs off i-F's Mixed Up
in the Hague Vol. 1 CD? These are the tracks I'm stuck on:
-Primitive World
-World Invasion
-Manmade
-Spacerwoman
-Robot is Systematic
-Super Shuffle
-Take A Chance
-Dirty Talk
-Living Up
-Feel The Drive
-Catch
I've been on this list for 5 years. I like reading about techno,
specifically detroit techno. I'm a little tired of deleting all these
strings about (said in a whiny bitch voice) 'you guys are s mean,' 'you
think you know every thing about techno and won't talk about other stuff'
'why is
Yeah, you want a classic? check out Tiger Trance
-Original Message-
From: Richard Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 6:16 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] KMS records
talking of Gary Martin - can anyone recommend
tracks worth buying ??
At 07:51 14-6-00 -0400, you wrote:
Can anyone help me with artists and/or labels for these songs off i-F's
Mixed Up
in the Hague Vol. 1 CD? These are the tracks I'm stuck on:
-Primitive World
-World Invasion
-Manmade
-Spacerwoman
-Robot is Systematic
-Super Shuffle
-Take A Chance
-Dirty Talk
Bought a record on Saturday with the title Sound
Stream. It has 4 funky housy tunes on it, featuring
blatant samples from old funk/disco records. Love 'em
to death tho... Does any one have any more info on
this? The record is pretty blank with just thenames of
the tunes and the title of the record
about 29 mins in the first Pullen mix there is a track that goes
Its dangerous - Oh yeah - this groove is dangerous etc
anyone know this track ??
http://proto.groovetech.com/mk-demf.rxml?file=/demf/mainstage/day1/demfstage
day1-staceypullen1.rm
Nathaniel Hovan wrote:
Can anyone help me with artists and/or labels for these songs off i-F's
Mixed Up
in the Hague Vol. 1 CD? These are the tracks I'm stuck on:
-Primitive World
-World Invasion
-Manmade
-Spacerwoman
-Robot is Systematic
-Super Shuffle
-Take A Chance
-Dirty Talk
-Living Up
Nick Walsh wrote:
Bought a record on Saturday with the title Sound
Stream. It has 4 funky housy tunes on it, featuring
blatant samples from old funk/disco records. Love 'em
to death tho... Does any one have any more info on
this? The record is pretty blank with just thenames of
the tunes and
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His brother Matt will be spinnin-and if you haven't seen or heard Matt spin
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WhereTF:CBGB Gallery
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From: jim proffit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Mixed Up in the Hague Vol. 1
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:23:11 PDT
Nathaniel Hovan wrote:
Can anyone help me with artists and/or labels for these songs off i-F's
Mixed Up
in the Hague Vol. 1 CD? These are the tracks
In a message dated 6/14/00 11:35:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do a good thing
(Apologies if you've already received this)
This is important for all of us!!!
Brazilian congress is now voting on a project that will reduce the amazon
forest to 50% of its size. The
go to
http://fly.to/panamamix
this has the complete artist/title listing, but no labels.
ps, shortly after this came out, clone had a new white label stocked w/
numberofnames:sharevari and charlie:spacerwoman- both of which were in the
i-f mix.
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Jorge Velez wrote:
From:
Just started listening to the above listed CD and am loving it. Very
driving techno with hard percussion and swirling synths that pull you in.
I'm frustrated though. I know nothing about this guy and found that Force
Inc's artist link is not working. Can anyone share a bit about this guy?
One
ok this is a response for all of the people who have sent me private
emails about why i should not post on this list - it seems that when you
want me to quiet myself you would treat me nice, then later you will not
know me just so you can keep going on in your usual ways - but that is
not how i
thanks for speaking up
it is hard to get some good points across when everyone bashes someone
who speaks a word of trance
dustin
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:46:32 -0400 Emanuel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Dustin A Sledgianowski wrote:
i just noticed this - this is why you are lost
Proper
I believe the track you're talking about is called Dangerous Vibes.
I'm not sure of the label/artist but I know my roommate has a copy.
Perhaps I'll go searching for it and let it land in my crate for awhile.
;)
Cheers,
Tom
At Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:46:44 +0100, Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
maybe that is the problem - how do you know that noone cares what i have
to say? you are too wrapped up in your own self to care whether anyone
else wants to know what i have to say
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) hans kaufmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Will you please stop
i will stop posting when someone is a little more understanding and
starts looking at others viewpoints besides his own
maybe you cannot answer my question?
what is techno? why is it so much better that i cannot speak about
anything else like trance or drum n bass
only techno - because techno is
well then where are they?? i am sure they are ready to speak up about it
then... i shouldnt have to wait very long with all the well educated
people on this list
someone should be able to tell me immediately what techno means
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:03:02 -0700 (PDT) tristan watkins
[EMAIL
for more try listening to some of bo vestergaards tracks - mp3.com/bo
christian bloch
tresor/LL/funque droppings/simple muzik
www.mp3.com/bloch
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Jason Stanley Birchmeier wrote:
Just started listening to the above listed CD and am loving it. Very
driving techno with hard
Y ha Awww yeah I'm going too!!!
Dude, i'm gonna dance my freakin' ass off...forget about it.
Look for tall asian chick.
see ya's there =D
_g l y p h_
In a message dated 6/9/00 10:55:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I thought this might interest some people on the list.
Have
i will shut up when someone can speak up and tell me the true meaning of
techno... do you know what techno means? if you cannot tell me then there
is no reason why i should have to shut up - i believe the meaning of
techno is very relevant to this list and will help some people further
their
you dont know anything about my taste - you only know the words i am
speaking, but my taste on the inside you cannot grasp
since this list is so geared towards techno maybe you would like to
answer my question
just what is techno???
i would surely like to know
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:27:46
sawtooth? are we missing something?
couldn't find any entries in any of the online slang dictionaries...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Thomas Heckmann: Welt in Scherben
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:17:41 EDT
hahahaha! asking questions about
From: Dustin A Sledgianowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dustin,
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, please take this private or to a seperate list of ppl
who care. You are like a little kid who whines it isn't fair!? over and
over again.
whatever meaning we give you,it wont please you-that's pretty
Dustin,
I thought you made some really great points, but that was about 3 days
ago, and about 5-billion redundant emails ago. I agree with your
reasoning but dont want to hear about it anymore. You are wasting serious
bandwidth. For those individuals who email you personal disagreements, you
Well seeing that this is a techno list and not a
trance list (there are several Trance oriented out
there) it would seem like common sense for people to
want to discuss techno. If you want a general
electronic list this is not for you. I am also on the
gabber list and although I also like disco
Read this:
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/print.html
Turns out it's by Courtney Love of all people.
She blasts major labels, and talks about the
future of on-line music distribution...
But what about the
This kid is either an idiot or just fucking with people. If you continue
to send him private emails he'll continue to post them to the list with
the same generic response. Use some common sense and please ignore him
instead of trying to reason with him. I'm having Luke Monteiro
flashbacks.
I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's what this
list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have always felt
that Detroit Techno was more heady music than other forms of
electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that music, just a
stated preference.
Dale,
so what makes music be fluff? what is candy?
tell me an exact definition
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:29:58 -0400 Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'll make this short and sweet:
Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
Detroit is
that is the point - how can you feel music with your head? i dont get it
isnt the head for thinking? how do you feel music with your head - ooh i
am feeling the brainwaves in my music
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:58 -0400 Roberto Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I couldn't agree more. That's
i think some one is up for a bitch slap (ref: your email addy)
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God, I am usually just a bystander in this list but I have got to say
something on this one
Why does it have to have a dictionary definition??? I think everyone has
their own opinions as to what techno means. Techno is a very broad term and
means different things to different people. If
Since, for some reason, you're so concerned with exact definitions -
an·noy
Pronunciation: -'noi
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English anoien, from Middle French enuier, from Late Latin
inodiare to make
loathsome, from Latin in + odium hatred -- more at ODIUM
Date: 13th century
transitive
yes but the truth of the matter is that if NOONE can give an exact
definition of techno then how can techno be an exact form of music??
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:41:30 -0400 Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
you have too much time on your hands!
-Original
if techno is so BROAD then how is it that techno is not connected to
trance?? why is everyone trying to isolate it so badly
i do not understand...
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:43:12 -0500 K [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
God, I am usually just a bystander in this list but I have got to say
hello all. Please forgive me, as I'm a little pissed now!
quoting dustin: please note the use of quotation, and the fact that i have
deleted all irrelevant data below what I am quoting.
i will stop posting when someone is a little more understanding and
starts looking at others viewpoints
Dustin-
maybe i am missing the point as to why techno should be kept separate
from everything like it is so much better... well what makes it so much
better??
You seem to miss the key point of the 313 list here-the list exists for the
sole purpose of talking about Detroit techno because we want
stop telling me to shut up!!
you do not know what techno means
that is the point
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:52:59 -0400 (EDT) The Deliverator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hello all. Please forgive me, as I'm a little pissed now!
quoting dustin: please note the use of quotation, and the
yes but the truth of the matter is that if NOONE can give an exact
definition of techno then how can techno be an exact form of music??
dustin
==
techno is whatever i feel it is...
also: techno has no snare rolls, big buildups and breakdowns or that heavily
delayed goa shit.
techno
Jason,
I don't have Theo's contact information off hand but I don't believe
that he does any kind of retail sales. I may be wrong though. To the
best of my knowledge, I do believe that the new sound signiture LP/CD is
not out yet. Should be real soon and as soon as I see them in the mail ,
hm.. i thought that expression existed in english as well. i'll try to
explain as far as i am able to do so. the curves of the fx of those sounds
heckmann (others as well) is known for are shaped like a sawtooth of a saw,
but i am not a producer so i could be wrong with that.
anyone else?
right - techno is whatever we feel it is
maybe whatever we say it is too
so then how come if i say it is connected to trance it can not be so?? is
techno is open enough to be whatever we say then how can it not be open
enough to be a part of other music
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:56:55 -0400
People that feel the music within themselves are
taking that music to a deeper level, perhaps even
to a spiritual (not religious) level. I understand
completely what he is talking about. It also
provokes thought,
sorry but i am not on the wrong list - if you do not know exactly what
techno means then how can anything you say be relevant to techno???
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Christos Michalakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While we are on the subject of redicilous off topic questions,
i feel bad for adding to the flame, but my finger is sore from
having had to delete all this bullsh!t for the last week.
no hard feelings, but could you please swallow what little pride you have
left and move on.
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Dustin A Sledgianowski wrote:
stop telling me to shut up!!
no i dont know what he means - i need the exact definition
what is it?
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:07:55 EDT Greg Malcolm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
words have many definitions, and you can make them say almost
anything...i'm
sure you know this. i think you know what he means.
just a
--- Dustin A Sledgianowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
yes but the truth of the matter is that if NOONE can
give an exact
definition of techno then how can techno be an exact
form of music??
dustin
Can you give an exact definition of country,
alternative, rock and roll, heavy metal, etc. no
why not religious? who is to say what music is
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:07:41 -0400 Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
People that feel the music within themselves are
taking that music to a deeper level, perhaps even
to a spiritual (not
words have many definitions, and you can make them say almost anything...i'm
sure you know this. i think you know what he means.
just a guess
Greg Malcolm
Twine/Moniker/Twinesound Audio Productions
http://www.inneractions.com/twine
well then how can you tell when you hear drum n bass that you are hearing
drum n bass? how can you tell when you are hearing techno that that is
what you are really hearing
everything i am talking about is related to 313 techno
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Curtis White
[EMAIL
It is just one opinion. I am not discounting that trance for some is
enjoyable. I personally don't like it. When I listen to techno I just
don't feel it, I think about it too. Much in the same way as Jazz or
Classical music, I feel it, but often times there are stories behind
these compositions in
but how come you cant uncover more? is there a limit to what you can
uncover?
dustin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:19:41 -0400 Roberto Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
It is just one opinion. I am not discounting that trance for some is
enjoyable. I personally don't like it. When I listen to techno I
Ok, I lied. One more post.
Once Techno becomes finally defined it will cease
to matter and evolve as a progressive form of music.
Period. By asking us to define it you are asking
us to stop the music from
yes but the truth of the matter is that if NOONE can give an exact
definition of techno then how can techno be an exact form of music??
techno is an uncontrollable urge to jack your bo... oh wait
glyn
Dale: Thanks for the well-reasoned reply to Dustin.
All: Could we all just agree to stop replying to Dustin on this topic?
(Unless, of course, anyone wants to seriously discuss genre definitions).
Otherwise, blocking him's only half effective. I hate to be cruel, but. . .
it's hard to
Hey all, another Wednesday and another installment of 1 TRAK. Tonight we
have a special free event celebrating Gary's birthday (one of the
promoters). For your listening pleasure we have Jay Hunsberger of Cynosure
fame, then coming up, a battle - Mike Shannon again of Cynosure fame and
Hans Veneman wrote:
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 06:30:37PM +0930, Scott Vallance wrote:
Those very kind people at KMS records have made some of their back
catalogue available on mp3.com. This includes one of my all time
favourites Ahnongay... I seem to remember it used to get quite a bit of
Sorry, but this kid is creating list disruption on a scale that Luke
Montiero and Kelly Hacket could only dream of. If somebody acted like
this on Tech-Gear I would have given them their walking papers a week
ago.
MT
--
Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sawtooth as in wave as opposed to pulse or sine etc. maybe you have to
have been near a synthesizer to understand it
christian bloch
tresor/LL/simple muzik/funque droppings
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, detroit science wrote:
sawtooth? are we missing something?
couldn't find any entries in any of
I agree but I like to think that my modivation for making music is more than
money. That is what separates us from them. The major record companies,
napster, eminem, puff, and the others who play the mainstream game have only
one modivation for everything they do, $. I think it is evident by the
I apologize for continuing this ridiculous thread, but the lunatics have
taken over the asylum.
Techno and Trance are inexplicitly linked, ever since Trance dripped out of
Techno's arse into the toilet.
Sorry, I couldn't resist :-)
ARRGH IT'S THE BAD THREAD THAT WON'T DIE AND GO AWAY!
Worse yet, it's spawning equally evil (and repetitive) threads! I don't
even care anymore (not that I cared to begin with)! Y'all are talking in
circles... die, thread, die
Can we get back to the music? B*tch about Moby or Carl
AMEN!!! and i don't mean the break...
From: Intermodal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] please ban dustin s.
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:28:41 -0400
Sorry, but this kid is creating list disruption on a scale that Luke
Montiero and Kelly Hacket could only dream of. If
I'm so glad your name isn't Dustin,
At 04:35 PM 6/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
I agree but I like to think that my modivation for making music is more than
money. That is what separates us from them. The major record companies,
napster, eminem, puff, and the others who play the
I second that...I have only been on this list a week, and I also am on an
oldskool hardcore/jungle list and I don't appreciate this guy clogging up my
mailbox with such innane chatter
peace
Liam
Get Your Private, Free
you're right, except that it's not the fx, it's the oscilation of the
synthesizer. the tone generator's oscilation...
christian bloch
www.mp3.com/bloch
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, peter mueller wrote:
hm.. i thought that expression existed in english as well. i'll try to
explain as far as i am
I have a simple rule when dealing with someone online who is doing an
uncanny impersonation of a write-only infobot. The temptation is very
great to engage them on their terms. Do not do this. Eventually they
will start being conversational, or go away.
phred
Forgive us Dustin, but as busy individuals with a supposed common
interest, there is no time to be reading all this noise. I would second
such a move.
-Sathya
-Original Message-
From: Curtis White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 6:06 PM
To: '313'
Subject: Re:
i recently came accross the first flower ep on undertow featuring a mills mix.
i'm curious just about everything with this release. did the subjects release
anything else? what are the other releases on undertow, is the label still
around?also, the label says 'side b: the subjects vs. timothy
please make it stop
if it appeases anyone... this is how it appears in Websters...
techno: {Gk. fr. techne} 1. art : craft *technography* 2. technical :
technological technocracy
3. opp. trance.
ok well not the last part,
waiting in vain
ian
to answer what is techno we will use the few words i spoke with
carl craig at a small event recently-
me-so have they dropped any techno yet?
craig-well it is ALL techno
(this was said as the dj dropped yet another horrific trance
track)
=
For those who know, stay low, stay strong, stay
I will be unsubscribing for a while folks, too much to do + mailbox getting out
of hand! I will be back soon, if any on you have any info an my last message
about Illic by Laurent Garnier or wish to email my about anything else please
feel free.
thanks for reading.
Ben
sigh...
Sorry, but this kid is creating list disruption on a scale that Luke Montiero
and Kelly Hacket could only dream of. If somebody acted like this on Tech-Gear
I would have given them their walking papers a week ago.
You should the the email I just got from her, apparently dustin is
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