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dd == Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dd My favorite Surgeon track is definitely La Real, off of his
dd label counterbalance (CB02). I love what Tony is doing
dd recently, the counterbalance stuff is great. I've heard a lot
dd of coments on this list about how he,
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:49:03 +0200 Christian Bloch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
within the next 2-3 weeks i'll release simple muzik 10 11 (#10 is a
co-production with bjorn svin)
earlier this year, i picked up simple muzik #4 which christian bloch
produced. i
definitely recommend itmy
hey :)
Rumours are milling faster than flour here...
Does ANYONE have rumoured dates and locations for...
reecloose (heard 21st- adelaide.. any other dates?)
theo parrish
larry heard
common factor
?
review of Pullen in sydney anyone? Surgeon R in Melbourne?
thanks :)
emma
mee-thod
-it's in
couldn't agree more, but please say swedish sound, denmark is DEFINITELY not
like that. if you doubt that for a second, check out some productions by bo v.,
bjørn svin or myself
Christian Bloch
www.mp3.com/bloch
Tresor/Funque Droppings/LL/Simple Muzik/Deep Night Essentials
- Original
i know that recloose common factor are on the same bill in adelaide,
but can't remember where it was.
nath
mee-thod wrote:
hey :)
Rumours are milling faster than flour here...
Does ANYONE have rumoured dates and locations for...
reecloose (heard 21st- adelaide.. any other dates?)
theo
sloes wrote:
http://www.htcomp.net/stephen/id4.ram
old Plus 8.
Final Exposure - Vortex, Plus 8010, released in 1991, written
produced by
Joey Beltram, Mundo Musique Richie Hawtin.
really? I dont remeber Final Exposure Vortex sounding like that off the
Blueprints for Modern Technology
Hello all,
DJ Muggs - Interview.
--
DJ Muggs second Soul Assassin-album will be released in a couple of
days and PitchAdjust.com met him while he was chillin' out in Stockholm.
Read was he has to say about Cypress Hill, his dark beats and Kool G
Rap.
(New contest, see below)
broadcasted locally via 94.3 Radio 1 Austin on 09-22-00 Friday 7-8pm.
http://www.radio1austin.com/
Last weeks show (09-22) via realaudio..
http://www.n-siderecords.com/cgi-bin/dj?ra=radio1_show016_092200.ram
The N-side w/ David H., Show #016 09-22-00 [Techno+]**
From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] some toneshifting tracks...
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:35:09 -0700
Go listen to Hawtin's Decks Effex whatever it's called CD
-I lose respect for people who feign ignorance.-
, and tracks 11
12
The whole Scandinavian banging sound was
too raw for me; what I like about Surgeon is how pristine his recent
material sounds (and his basslines _do_ have soul, if you pay
attention to them). If it's going to be raw, it needs extra soul --
something Jeff Mills and Mad Mike understand very
By the way, did anybody attend any of the other events around town? +8
record
release party? LTJ at the State? Grandmaster Flash and any others in A2?
I was at the A2 evening - LTJ did a nice set. He had an MC doing some
fairly dancehall sounding vocals over what he played, but it seemed
Hi ppl
Like I said before, it seems that most people on
this list have something
against the swedish sound, but nevertheless, I
love it.
Awww... poor you. Well, it ain't called the Detroit
313 mailing list fer nothing. Listen to 3 hours of
easy listening Burt Bacharach style and you'll grow
Hi,
I was gonna add some stuff to this thread but I missed
out... sorry... Everyone's gonna be sick of me soon...
Sly and the Family Stone: Fresh
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=A18265
My aunt knows these personally... goes over to the US
to visit them every now and then...
Stevie
I think the antagonism to the Swedish stuff arises from the fact that the
likes of Cari and Adam have been so prolific - saturating the market and
subscribing to a formula, even inadvertently. Also it's not material that
you can listen to in different environments necessarily, like on a walkman
in
i guess ill chime in, since i was there front row and mid center...
Kenny Larkin: brought up some great, interesting topics that should have
been expanded on IMHO, but got washed out because of lack of time. He also
served as the tension/comic relief when things seemed to get a bit think b/t
nick; there are plenty of souls on 313. it's great to see young folk be
open - minded enough to check out the trax tha old catz made back in their
day. detroit techno has it's roots in these fabulous artists' recordings. to
give you a brief analogy: a 1970 model volvo was/ is considered boxy,
LTJ:was er...very English in his silence.? I think me, and a lot of others,
thought it would have been great to hear him say more, esp. with the British
take on things and coming from a dnb angle.It really is unfortunate that he
didn't say more, as when he did speak it was poised and well put.
-I lose respect for people who feign ignorance.-
sorry, Decks, Effects, and 909. I was merely adding a light hearted
appraoch to a more serious matter, no offense intended...
-Perhaps the reason he does a boring mix, is so that he can get a
reaction similar to the one you are
As DJ tool material, it's OK, but
maybe people are not
using it very adventurously. Also I doubt if anyone
aside from a
trainspotter could recognise or name a track by
either those guys or
Christian Smith - it's very anonymous. It's not like
hmmm... if the truth beknown I've got quite a
oh, yeah... i've had this record since it came out, and i still play it when i
dj... an absolute killer!!
Christian Bloch
www.mp3.com/bloch
Tresor/Funque Droppings/LL/Simple Muzik/Deep Night Essentials
- Original Message -
From: stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
I have nothing against what Christian does at all - but would non DJs buy
his stuff or remember the tracks, they're made for the purpose of being DJ
tools. You DJ, so you're in the know. But you ain't gonna get some kid go
into a store and go, what's that track that sounds like this or has
What's the best place to start for Swedish Techno.
A few CD's please.
thanks
mediadrome
Also it's not material that
you can listen to in different environments necessarily, like on a walkman
in the tram/bus.
I disagree...
Also I doubt if anyone aside from a
trainspotter could recognise or name a track by either those guys or
Christian Smith - it's very anonymous.
I state
the swedes produced volvos, prototype airline stewards, absolut, abba, bjorn
borg all these people/ entities were successful, methodical,
efficient, but people are people, we have to feed our souls, and swedish
techno went out with fad diets..for that guy [child] to say
I am curious if anyone in the Detroit area knew what the ticket situation is
for the +8 show on Halloween...
darw_n
create, demonstrate, toneshift...
http://www.mp3.com/darw_n
http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html
http://www.mannequinodd.com
In a message dated 9/28/00 12:04:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think that people will generate their own toneshifting based
on
mood and personality, so to generalize it would be a detrement to the
thinking behind it.
Is tone shift an acoustical term, or
Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't
want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something
just a stop short or it.
d
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313]
--- Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have nothing against what Christian does at all -
but would non DJs buy
his stuff or remember the tracks, they're made for
the purpose of being DJ
tools. You DJ, so you're in the know. But you ain't
gonna get some kid go
into a store and go,
Well go as far to say it's close to trance... I know
Julesy was playing The Mole a few months back...
Lots of UK trance dj's play that kinda stuff... Gimme
the Detroit Escalator Co anyday...
Dj Pacific:)
--- Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ive personally felt swedish techno was always
The whole Scandinavian banging sound was
too raw for me; what I like about Surgeon is how pristine his recent
material sounds (and his basslines _do_ have soul, if you pay
attention to them). If it's going to be raw, it needs extra soul --
something Jeff Mills and Mad Mike understand very
yes, but bauhaus became ikea - a cheap imitation of the original...out.bond
- Original Message -
From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno
Also it's not
i agree. i never bought, was offered a swedish recordon another
tangent, i think the scottish dude, ivor, who produced the 2nd most famous
turntable in the world, [ linn sondek lp12 ] , was originally from
sweden..?..out.bond.
- Original Message -
From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL
Here's a song for you. Probably the best song Cari Lekenbusch has ever
produced
called De Sju Skenande Kompressorerna it's on the cd HPCD10
track 22
(Cari Lekebusch -DET JAG
VET)
Oops im a trainspotter though...
If anybody nows where i can get
the automobile is the most hideous acoustical environment. the bass people
hear is the bunching up of sound nodes which can't escape the small space-
especially if you use the trunk as a speaker cabinet - thanx.H.A.L.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Sure Jeff plays that stuff, so does Claude Young, cause both are masters at
transforming things, and no doubt Alan does this too. The records are DJ
tools and they use them as tools to create something. That's what their
primary purpose is. Too many DJs just bang them out, fait accompli.
Christian
After reading the article on british techno in DJ magazine i started
thinking how strong the british techno scene is at the moment
with quality dj's/producers of the calibre of surgeon, ben sims, space djz,
oliver ho, james ruskin, luke slater and a host of others british techno
really is on
We've often talked on here about the new artists coming from the 313 area-
such as Bill VanLoo, and Tad's work is something else to be recognized.
For those that were in Detroit or participated in the Critical events,
you'll know Tad from his residency there
..and so, I get this lovely
I am so interested in this, so excuse my frequent posting!!
But I am interested in how personality typing plays in all this...
For instance, are the lovers of Swedish techno generally introverted (i.e.,
only needs very slight informational input to feel fulfilled)
Well from my very
But there is method behind my generalization and persuit of this effect,
as
I will state again, I feel that it is the entire premise and drive behind
percussive techno (NOT jazzy techno). The reason percussive techno exists
at such a powerful and popular level is that this effect is occuring
for that guy [child] to say
that mills / hood are brothers on another planet, makes sense- the clinical
nature of his music puts him on par with the writing of j.g. ballard, and
the person who made the film where two doctor brothers trade metal
instruments...out.bond
Surgeon is just a very
| Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't
| want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something
| just a stop short or it.
go to your fave record store and check out adam beyer peter benish faces
ep on inside... if theres not enough soul
DARW_n : are you trying to do a charles with this 'toneshifting' theory? is
this a pet project, or uni thing! please send me detailed info on this
theory one day, and i'll print it out, however long it is. out. bond
- Original Message -
From: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
enough of the tone shifting already.
how about talking about music that generates some rump-shifting.
also,..
seconding josh's sentiments on the grandmaster flash performance last
night. not only did he do a 30-min history of hiphop on the decks, but
while playing doubles of every single track-
From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Swedish Techno
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:26:27 +1000
Sure Surgeon and Ruskin and more so Ho subscribe to a more intellectual
ethos but that said Surgeon insisted in an interview here that he has no
I think the introverted/extroverted personality/music match is
doomed to failure.
Well, as I was just telling someone, I have a tendency to be very general
and vastly broad and absolute, a handicap fo sure...
Anyways, there is a wrench in my gears in that ALOT of people like music for
many
i know of another dj in sydney, who is also very cynical, and doesn't get
any gigs. his music selections are out there, in space, so just because
no-one but about 6 of us understands where he's at, he gets frustrated and
disses everyone for their supposed mediocrity. a party is a party; we're
As I was reading this Month DJ mag, I know I should not read those mass
media control trash, anyway
This is off tangent but I know a lot of the UK press sucks but the
antagonism towards journalists is really out of control right now. There are
good and bad writers out there and the press in
Just got the sex on the beach 2000 remix in the mail today.
From ghetto anthem to modern day soul classic.
I couldn't stop playing the Electro Funk promo CD and featured it on
previous episodes of my internet radio show Clear Radio.
If the house and techno soul jocks give this a chance
it will
This all seems a bit suspect to me. Unless I've read you wrong this is an
effect of which most of its producers aren't even aware. Yet you contend
that this is the basic appeal of the music?
Exactly, thus making it very unique music in the modern art world. The
producers aren't aware (well,
of kraftwerk was a group that made 10min long drum breaks, so he could
drop their tracks and go hang out with his friends for a while :)
..i believe the direct phrasing was so he could go pee and/or kiss his
girlfriend :) needless to say it wasn't all serious, there was lots of
laughter there
well, we've heard about foran's, the dj colloquim in ann arbor, and bukem
at the state theatre. to anyone who went, how was record time last nite?
It's Phases and it's not bad...
Rich.
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:14:27 -0300 Spiceee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't
| want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something
| just a stop short or it.
go to
My man archetype has been doing this for years to little acclaim though
all his peeps and serious vinyl junkies know what's up.
From his day's of making/releasing drum bass under the moniker
Monochrome (no matter what anyone says this was the first or one of the
first DB records to get released
The sound was tight with Burst in control. The music went from new Plus 8 and
went back in history from there. (I am not sure the name of the track but one
of my favorite to dance too tour de France vocal in it really set me off)
I did not see John or Kenny because after being up front for a
Just got the sex on the beach 2000 remix in the mail today.
From ghetto anthem to modern day soul classic.
I couldn't stop playing the Electro Funk promo CD and featured it on
previous episodes of my internet radio show Clear Radio.
If the house and techno soul jocks give this a chance
it
Pardon me if this string forces my hand , as it where...
firstly is it known that genralizations are genrally non-functional
they exsist only in a non-reality,reality , to fullfill the need to
fit everything into a catagory .Second the comment re: lady Di's
need to have genrally more sensory
Huh. I actually just got back from my Swedish class so this is an
interesting topic.
I think an important thing to do if you are to compare Swedish Techno to
Detroit Techno is realize the different influences. Go back to the time of
John Sinclair in Detroit, arguably an influential time in jazz
Could anyone id the track that is playing right at the start of the Derrick
May mix.
http://www.supersphere.com/play/web2.supersphere.com/Content/TV/derrikmay.rm
Also does anyone know how I can save .rm or .ra clips to listen to them
offline?
Stewart
Energy Flash is a definite must have, it's probably the most well-known
track of his. I also like The Omen (Beltram Program 2) and a cut on the
Beltram Volume 2 EP called My Sound... both are on the RS label.
Matt
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com
energy
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
This is off tangent but I know a lot of the UK press sucks but the
antagonism towards journalists is really out of control right now. There are
good and bad writers out there and the press in other countries varies
considerably, so to use the
cw == Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cw I think the antagonism to the Swedish stuff arises from the
cw fact that the likes of Cari and Adam have been so prolific -
cw saturating the market and subscribing to a formula, even
cw inadvertently. Also it's not material that
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