I can't see how anyone here would be ok with one member's explicit suggestion
that simply subscribing to unwritten board rules (on hatefree speech, really)
would link to being ok with rape culture. I can't see that. What else is there
than some degree of malevolence, particularly far away from
just about to unsub, some thoughts...
first subbed in '93, then off and on (due to moving/travelling) the rest of
the 90s, mostly on, through the 2000s
Controversy has me realizing that 313 emaiI list doesn't suit my purposes
of reading the couple dozen posts per year (the larger issue), which
Well my man the solution is simple but I suppose our mod(s) are choosing to
nurture the cancer as opposed to treat it.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:45 PM Andrew Green wrote:
> Been lurking here for a long time .. I read the emails when I’m travelling
> and need space.
>
> I know Lerato and
Been lurking here for a long time .. I read the emails when I’m travelling and
need space.
I know Lerato and seeing her departure saddened me.
I’m not qualified to have an opinion on the Derrick / Michael thing. but
it’s really bizarre and ironic that the Innovator could be catalysis for
Tom is my boy and a fan of my label.
Wish he was still here.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:35 PM Martin wrote:
> I miss Tom
>
I miss Tom
So I guess there’s the “two wrongs don’t make a right” argument vs “we
tried to reply respectfully at first but she keeps replying with hostility
while trying to justify her tone”
What I replied earlier that wasn’t copied here in the group was asking why
Kent would risk losing many for the sake
I would also hope mutual respect to be preserved, instead of hostile egoism,
leaking from one quite specific mind openly.
Hostile and belligerent tones create negative space, leading to members to hold
back or withdraw from any contribution. This list should be about all we want
to know and
Don't go! Think of how much we will miss your complaining!
Den ons 26 feb. 2020 20:58Arturo Lopez skrev:
> Yea I'm out, too. Signal/Noise ratio has not been worth slugging through
> dumpster fire threads for a while now. Have fun, cheers, everybody.
> -Arturo
>
>
>
Let me be very clear -- Kent is a good friend and has been an
absolute stalwart maintaining this list since . . . a long time : )
He has bent over backwards to be fair and my point about
respect applies just as much if not more to our interaction with those
like Kent who take on responsibility to
I know...my bad for not realizing the list wasn’t cc’d on my reply which I
thought it was.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:57 AM Fred Heutte wrote:
> I'm not Kent.
>
> -
> >Good job Kent, risk losing many rather than risk “offending†(or
> better
> >yet, removing) one. I’m
Right.
Said.
Fred.
thanks,
Jeffrey J Davis
j...@jeffreyjdavis.com
www.jeffreyjdavis.com
218.833.2847
thanks,
Jeffrey J Davis
j...@jeffreyjdavis.com
www.jeffreyjdavis.com
218.833.2847
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:28 PM Fred Heutte wrote:
>
> I'm also basically a lurker these days
Yea I'm out, too. Signal/Noise ratio has not been worth slugging through
dumpster fire threads for a while now. Have fun, cheers, everybody.
-Arturo
Amen to that Fred.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 19:28, Fred Heutte wrote:
> I'm also basically a lurker these days but a list member since 1994. Also
> had the great fortune to meet Lakuti along with Earl Gateshead and the
> Flying/Plastic People crew in London 20 years ago -- and saw her play
> at
I'm also basically a lurker these days but a list member since 1994. Also
had the great fortune to meet Lakuti along with Earl Gateshead and the
Flying/Plastic People crew in London 20 years ago -- and saw her play
at the Detroit Artist Test Lab during the festival last year. (damn, that was
a
I’ve seen Lerato on this list for some time. Just seen on their Insta that
they’ve been playing back in my old home town in Australia and doing great
things (nice warm fuzzies there). And I welcome what Lerato posts - even if
the emails are few and far between.
I’ve only
Including The Master...Weird Al Yankovic!!
Sent from my iPhone
> On 26 Feb 2020, at 18:53, Rob Theakston wrote:
>
>
> I'm sure Jason's trying to "like" that post, too.
>
> Pretty great selection of records comes up when you type Boober Atkins in
> over at discogs:
I didn't know Juan was related to a Fraggle.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:48 PM Mike Taylor wrote:
>
> I'm still waiting for Paxahau to give Boober Atkins long deserved headline
> slot on the underground stage.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 12:46 PM Jason Brunton wrote:
>>
>> I’m so out of practice
You wanna know what they call people who live in Michigan, but on the
mainland, not in the UP? Trolls.
Denise Dalphond
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:21 PM kc Austin wrote:
>
> way to destroy a list troll..
> sad, it only takes one really. been on here since the mid 90s but
> can't deal with
I'm sure Jason's trying to "like" that post, too.
Pretty great selection of records comes up when you type Boober Atkins in
over at discogs: https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=Boober+Atkins=all
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:48 PM Mike Taylor wrote:
> I'm still waiting for Paxahau to give Boober
I'm still waiting for Paxahau to give Boober Atkins long deserved headline
slot on the underground stage.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 12:46 PM Jason Brunton wrote:
> I’m so out of practice with emails, I just tried to “ Like” Rob’s response
> there
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 26 Feb 2020, at
Don't make me come over there and evaluate your logo.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:46 PM Jason Brunton wrote:
> I’m so out of practice with emails, I just tried to “ Like” Rob’s response
> there
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 26 Feb 2020, at 18:00, Rob Theakston wrote:
>
>
>
> I wouldn't
I’m so out of practice with emails, I just tried to “ Like” Rob’s response
there
Sent from my iPhone
> On 26 Feb 2020, at 18:00, Rob Theakston wrote:
>
>
>
> I wouldn't mistake disinterest for silent observation.
>
> I just don't have anything to add of a substantial nature, and would
Can the 313 HR Dept send me the enrollment packet for benefits and 401k?
Also, how much PTO have I accrued since 96?
way to destroy a list troll..
sad, it only takes one really. been on here since the mid 90s but
can't deal with nonsense like this. hope you get what you need out there
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:06 PM Denise Dalphond
wrote:
> Too much unpaid labor for me, Kent. Google it. I’m not a DJ. I
Sweet Lerato. I am familiar with your work. I have no platform because most
people don’t want to know about history and true stories. Check my archival
collection at the Archives of African American Music and Culture at Indiana
University. You’ll see mostly Black men’s voices. Black men from
Too much unpaid labor for me, Kent. Google it. I’m not a DJ. I don’t hang
out with DJ crews. I don’t know the people in Seraphine Collective. And I’m
still doin unpaid labor right now.
Denise
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:00 PM Ben Britz wrote:
> that was your first mistake
>
> On Wed, Feb 26,
that was your first mistake
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:57 PM kent williams
wrote:
> I have the Internet but you sounded like you had some knowledge and
> context to offer.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM Denise Dalphond
> wrote:
>
>> Nandi Comer and a bunch of other people. Do you have
I wouldn't mistake disinterest for silent observation.
I just don't have anything to add of a substantial nature, and would rather
give people space to do their thing. People ought to be able to express
themselves one way or another, unencumbered of what I think.
Plus a bit of a lightness with
crikey . classic example of how not to built community .
i am writing to you as a black african queer woman denise who has put a lot
into supporting and nurturing a lot of djs and artists .
and i continue to work hard to support communities within the global music
network young and old often from
Dude Kent why don’t you simply remove her? She clearly violates any sort
of “code of conduct” that doesn’t need to be written down but rather seen
as common sense.
That, and she makes other members uncomfortable regardless if she crosses
any lines or not with her constant race and gender
Does this mean that you lack interest in the email conversations that some
people have been having? Is that what yr saying.
It’s how I feel a lot of the time when promoters are taking.
Denise Dalphond
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:54 PM Rob Theakston
wrote:
>
>
> It's the topic everyone is
I have the Internet but you sounded like you had some knowledge and context
to offer.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM Denise Dalphond
wrote:
> Nandi Comer and a bunch of other people. Do you have the internet?
>
> Denise Dalphond
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:43 PM kent williams
>
It's the topic everyone is talking about: who has the best logo on the
Movement 2020 poster? Here's my hottest of takes. Get those oven mitts
ready.
I do appreciate the throwback simplicity of the 9 logo, but
appreciate the Blade Runner nod from Adam Beyer. God love the Swedes for
making
Nandi Comer and a bunch of other people. Do you have the internet?
Denise Dalphond
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:43 PM kent williams
wrote:
> Who are the DJs in Seraphine Collective?
>
> Maybe it's just me but the current music that dominates my listening is by
> women, non-binary and queer
Hey guys, I owe you nothing. You don’t have to like my communication. I’ll
take up as much space as I need. Most people expect women to be quiet. I’m
not. You can read my writing in some published books. It’s all on my
website, which is in my signature. Next up is an article on Detroit and
Very well said. What’s worse is the lack of remorse. Just empty
“admissions of guilt”
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:42 AM Lerato Khathi <
booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com> wrote:
> i do not know you denise but i have been subscribed to this group for a
> long time therefore i feel that
Who are the DJs in Seraphine Collective?
Maybe it's just me but the current music that dominates my listening is by
women, non-binary and queer people. Octo Octa, Ciel, Ilana Bryne, Eris
Drew, Violet, Ziur, Meemo Comma, Erika. Most of those people are in the
Detroit scene, per se, but Eris Drew
i do not know you denise but i have been subscribed to this group for a
long time therefore i feel that i am a bit qualified to make a comment .
i am a lurker and posted sometimes but only occasionally yrs back .
i do find though that your approach denise can be very confrontational and
can often
Well, Kent, nobody knows who’s unsubbing except for you. So maybe it’s just
your family.
I wish I had money to go clubbing more often in Detroit. I wish I had a
boyfriend to go clubbing with. But I’m pretty sure I never been wishin I
was Black because then you have to suffer racism.
I do love
The Tom Cox battles were epic, but at the same time, ultimately not that
great for the list. Every time there's a big emotional flare-up on 313
people unsubscribe; people I regard as essential members of the family.
I'm all for people being opinionated, but it would be great if they were
more
I miss when Tom Cox was on the list. Maybe that’s because he never yelled
at me. He was more like a mentor 2 me.
You can read all about it in the archives. You can read messages from Dan
Sicko, too. In the 313 list archives.
Denise, the woman
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:56 AM Joe Marougi
That’s fine but why can’t folks tell “certain people” to chill the f out?
Is it because she’s a woman, hates being white or wishes she was black?
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:48 AM kent williams
wrote:
> I generally just let the 313 list be. Frankly it's been moribund lately
> and probably has
I generally just let the 313 list be. Frankly it's been moribund lately and
probably has more subscribers outside of Detroit than inside; the flavor is
completely different than it was 20 years ago. And even typing "20 years
ago" about a mailing list feels weird.
I don't know what to think about
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