On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Nick Walsh wrote:
> It depends on how it's been coded. 256kbps isn't too
> bad... the problem is that you have to have a really
well, if one wants quality, one buys audioactive production studio.
otherwise, lame does almost as good job. occasionally better, depending on
the
hahahha--im with u on that 1 johnny. lmfao
mike
It depends on how it's been coded. 256kbps isn't too
bad... the problem is that you have to have a really
high level of kbps to get anything like something
worth purchasing which obviously means massive files.
I don't see why anyone would wanna BUY mp3's so
they're not really commercially viable (a
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Paul Hudson wrote:
> Vinyl sounds better than CD and CD sounds better than MP3. While the
> popular media say Mp3's sound as good as CD's, I don't think anyone believes
> them do they? I mean, just play a CD next to a high quality MP3 on quality
> Hi-Fi. They tow don't even
Why has no one mentioned the sound quality in this debat (or have they and
I've missed it).
For me, the most important thing about music is not the ideas behind it, not
who's written it or from where, not what format it's on or how easy it is to
mix. The most important thing, for me anyway, is the
> Oh, and your record will never crash, or you needle with
> never have an irq
> conflict...
yes but your digital file won't get a scratch in it, and it won't be
a 500 press run that is almost impossible to find...
now thats good and bad
i dont think digital file mixers/tables are going to be too
When the MP3 revolution comes, you can send your unwanted vinyl to me -
don't burn it after some baseball game :)
Jonny.
>Not to boost my own theory here, but Mills captured, to me, the sounds of
>what toneshifting sounds like in these three tracks...
Have you listened to any of his Purposemaker releases? There are some
amazing sounds here which I believe are the essence of your theory. At least
this is the stuff th
:
>
> jeff mills- metropolis
As I said before, I just got this CD, and I have to admit, it is near close
to brilliant, although, I am having trouble seeing about half the tracks as
movie scores, but the use of sounds in some of the more dancy tracks is
stunning to say the least.
I don't have th
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Chris Ege wrote:
> The point that everyone's missing is that a better solution can be
> devised. True, vinyl is still the best solution. But we're quickly
> approaching a point where it won't be anymore. it won't be long till
> someone comes up with a truly elegant and intu
> > With these mp3 players, you could do midi
> > quite easily (well for the consumer)
>
> Can we please be careful about using the term midi? Midi has nothing to do
> with .mp3 technology whatsoever. I see lots of people making this mistake.
> Midi provides no definitive sound characteristics,
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To: darw_n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] "trading on napster" / digital mixing
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:25:39 -0600 (CST)
> I don't stick with it for sentimental reasons, its the simplicity that
> attracts me...
> Where is the skill?
>
That's what my friends were saying, but there is one way to really make it
an art...
with this, you could feasibly create symphonies with dance tracks, have 20
tracks going within a minute or less (I think this is where Hawtin is
heading), and it wont sound garbled, th
Where is the skill?
Fred
From: "darw_n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "aziza vasco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:30:09 -0800
h,
here's an issue I was talking about today w
In a message dated 11/29/00 6:03:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< hmmm...
I'd say that turntables will go the way of the guitar
(that they've replaced). Sure guitars are still
played, but are our kids going to be right into what
we listen to? How many people these d
<< With these mp3 players, you could do midi
quite easily (well for the consumer) and match effortlessly (even though
would take some of the fun out of djing, as well as some frustration --
for me at least).>>
well isnt that the point of dj'ing? fun and frustration?
on 11/29/2000 5:43 PM, *!*! at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>If there were an adequate alternative, say a mp3 player with
> the digital cueing capabilities that I currently have with my 1200s, I
> woudl switch in an instant.
Numark in two months.
http://www.numark.com/flash/productdetails.cfm?CatName
Ugh man. This thread hits 313 once a year I think. Is techno dead? Is rock
dead? Is the turntable dead? how about the zither?
Classical music has been around for centuries and it is still the only
genre of music that some people will listen to. Much traditional music has
been around for a milenniu
> I don't stick with it for sentimental reasons, its the simplicity that
> attracts me...
whose to say a simpler, more intuitive interface can't be created?
> Oh, and your record will never crash, or you needle with never have an irq
> conflict...
your records can warp, your needles can break.
I'm always surprised at how reactionary people get when the subject of
replacing turntables with a superior (yet not so sentimental) alternative
comes up. You'd think someone had suggested to the pope that the earth
isn't the center of the universe!
surprisingly enough, the technics sl-1200mk2 i
e not perfect, but it's the time you spent that made it all
worthwhile. But that's just my opinion. :)
Braden.
-Original Message-
From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 5:30 PM
To: aziza vasco; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster
hmmm...
I'd say that turntables will go the way of the guitar
(that they've replaced). Sure guitars are still
played, but are our kids going to be right into what
we listen to? How many people these days are right
into Motown or Duke Ellington (for example)? Many
respect it (and many haven't heard
;
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster
> h,
>
> here's an issue I was talking about today with some friends...
>
> There is now a program out that will mix MP3's for you, you can see the
wave
> so you can do visual mixing,
landunderground
http://www.mp3.com/darw_n
http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html
http://www.mannequinodd.com
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Ege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: [
I'm always surprised at how reactionary people get when the subject of
replacing turntables with a superior (yet not so sentimental) alternative
comes up. You'd think someone had suggested to the pope that the earth
isn't the center of the universe!
surprisingly enough, the technics sl-1200mk2 i
m
- Original Message -
From: "aziza vasco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster
>
> don't worry im going to pay a lot of money for my music 'cuz im going to
buy
&
ot;Todd Gys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Craig Stodolenak'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:57 PM
Subject: RE: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)
> Vinyl and/or turntables will never die out.
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Craig Stodolenak wrote:
>
> Vinyl can already be more easily replaced with a digital file; all
> we're waiting on is the interface. And who the hell is going to lug
> around a 50 lb. box of discs of plastic with little squiggly lines on
> them after they're presented with
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 10:16 PM
Subject: RE: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)
> I was in boston and I was in a bar where there was a CDJ definetly play
two cd's together and beat maching them accordingly. I am not sure
Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)
> Vinyl and/or turntables will never die out. CD DJ decks have been out for
> over 5 years. Smaller sized units, digital sound, and CD's are a much
> physically smaller medi
nesday, November 29, 2000 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)
> i agree with GYS,
>
> if records and turntables were going to be misplaced..it woulkd have
already happened. My friends and I always talk about how its ironic that we
pump out the most &q
I may have missed this. Sorry. I agree with you - I love the look and feel
of vinyl. However, in Australia (that's my sphere of reference) where you
find CD decks is in R&B clubs as there is a limited amount of wax coming in
for DJs. The market is growing and it is being serviced but DJs want to pl
Yeah, that is definitely possible. During my (fortunately) brief 'DJ career'
I had two CD units as part of the decks, so you could go from vinyl to
vinyl, CD to CD, or vinyl to CD, etc. The CD unit works the same way so you
can mix with the cross fader or volume controls. The CD unit also allows yo
> if records and turntables were going to be misplaced..it woulkd have
we pump out the most "futuristic" music, with the most "manual" of
>instruments. .
I disagree. If there were an adequate alternative, say a mp3 player with
the digital cueing capabilities that I currently have with my 1200s
I was in boston and I was in a bar where there was a CDJ definetly play two
cd's together and beat maching them accordingly. I am not sure what type of
equiptment he was using, but the mixing that he was coming from it was not one
track end one track start. there was a definete third track cre
I humbly submit:
http://www.mp3.com/zarathustra
http://www.assasins.net
i agree with GYS,
if records and turntables were going to be misplaced..it woulkd have already
happened. My friends and I always talk about how its ironic that we pump out
the most "futuristic" music, with the most "manual" of instruments.
> But, it hasn't caught on at all and most likely never will.
I can agree about cds but here are a couple of things I would like to
one day be able to do, or see happen:
technic 1200 midi controllers
i'd love to see these made to control digital audio in a mixer so the
digital medium can be pla
wax.
GYS
-Original Message-
From: Craig Stodolenak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 3:29 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>Why don't you pay for the music instead of ripping arti
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Why don't you pay for the music instead of ripping artists and
labels off !
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
don't worry im going to pay a lot of money for my music 'cuz im
going to buy decks and so many many vinyls but till this moment
i go on ripping music on napster...have you
At 15:35 11/29/2000 +0100, aziza vasco wrote:
hi list!
i would like to know if there is someone who has good detroit songs to
trade on napster..i have many but i want more 'cuz i use to play them with
my comp.thank you in advance!
aziza
You want mp3's? You get mp3's!
Here:
http://artists.mp
..and if you do...please take it private.
d
*seeing the strom brewing*
From: "aziza vasco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:36:53 +0100
don't worry im going to pay a lot of money for my music
don't worry im going to pay a lot of money for my music 'cuz im going to buy
decks and so many many vinyls but till this moment i go on ripping music
on napster...have you got any problem about that?
From: Janos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re:
Why don't you pay for the music instead of ripping artists and labels off
!
: janos :))
On Wednesday 29 November 2000 15:35, aziza vasco wrote:
> hi list!
> i would like to know if there is someone who has good detroit songs to
> trade on napster..
hi list!
i would like to know if there is someone who has good detroit songs to trade
on napster..i have many but i want more 'cuz i use to play them with my
comp.thank you in advance!
aziza
:o)
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