Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Glen Waldrop via Af
No doubt. Grab a chair and a beer and sit on the porch. - Original Message - From: Bill Prince via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare Actually, it's the mega hospital bill that accumulates when you are on your dea

Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime

2014-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
As a guest in Australia, if your host takes you to a rugby game, don’t ask his wife which team she is rooting for. (I knew someone who did this.) From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime Go to England and tell the

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
One of my boys is in graduate physics and math classes. Even though he is an avid reader of all sorts of genre’s, he pretty much thought of those classes as a complete waste of his time. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson via Af Sent: Thursday, Octo

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
MMA doesn't count? :) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/09/2014 04:18 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: We're OK until we start sending Gladiators into the arena Oh wait, that's NFL football. We're doomed. bp On 10/9/201

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We're OK until we start sending Gladiators into the arena Oh wait, that's NFL football. We're doomed. bp On 10/9/2014 5:13 PM, Bob Hrbek via Af wrote: no moral or ethical foundation This is the demise of every great civilization Sent from my mobile device. Please excuse my brevity or m

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Bob Hrbek via Af
Lawyers? Sent from my mobile device. Please excuse my brevity or misspellings. > On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote: > > Check the prices for those procedures in other countries. > > Our medical system is out of touch with the rest of the world. > > I spoke with another

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
If you are only a good person because of some promise of your own personal utopia in the afterlife, then you're pretty much a PoS as an individual. The Golden Rule goes a long way. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/09/201

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Bob Hrbek via Af
no moral or ethical foundation This is the demise of every great civilization Sent from my mobile device. Please excuse my brevity or misspellings. > On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: > > It can’t if it’s constantly chipped apart from the bottom up. Between > continu

Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 maximum xmit power?

2014-10-09 Thread Bill Prince via Af
PTP the limit is more like 40 dBm, or maybe in some specific frequencies it's 50 dBm. bp On 10/9/2014 4:16 PM, cstanners--- via Af wrote: IIRC AP in 5.8 is limited to 19dbm since they believe you always have a 17dbi gain antenna and 36dbm is max? --Original Message-- From: Bill Princ

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Actually, it's the mega hospital bill that accumulates when you are on your death bed, and they spare no expense at keeping you alive despite the fact that you're going to die anyway. And probably in significant pain, with no hope of getting better. Last statistic I heard/read was 80% of your

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af
This thread reminds me of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzEhoyXpqzQ

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
I don't do semi-political ranting very much, but this particular topic really irritates me. Let me state that I am a card carrying Libertarian. I'm a firm believer that the government should stay out of almost everything, and let capitalism and the free enterprise system work. For the most part,

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af
On 10/9/14, 16:06, Dan Petermann via Af wrote: My wife wanted her doctor to deliver our son. He told her that if he delivered a baby, even on the side of a road in an emergency, his malpractice insurance would increase by $30,000.00/year. Think about that. 30K! Our legal, insurance, and medical

Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 maximum xmit power?

2014-10-09 Thread cstanners--- via Af
IIRC AP in 5.8 is limited to 19dbm since they believe you always have a 17dbi gain antenna and 36dbm is max? --Original Message-- From: Bill Prince via Af Sender: Af To: Motorola III ReplyTo: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PTP450 maximum xmit power? Sent: Oct 9, 2014 5:56 PM We have some

Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime

2014-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Yep the work culo is a really bad work around here...fighting word..but many folks use it for a womans behind..they even have it in songs... Jaime Solorza On Oct 9, 2014 10:56 AM, "Cameron Crum via Af" wrote: > Ken, > > Careful when talking about Cubanos...I had a very interesting experience > w

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Dan Petermann via Af
My wife wanted her doctor to deliver our son. He told her that if he delivered a baby, even on the side of a road in an emergency, his malpractice insurance would increase by $30,000.00/year. Think about that. 30K! Our legal, insurance, and medical industry is completely out of touch. On Oct

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Correction. This Forbes article claims we spend $3.8 TRILLION per year. Pretty soon, you're talking real money. bp On 10/9/2014 3:54 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: Reduce the cost of education and healthcare and you have a educated, healthy workforce with more disposable income. Not only ar

[AFMUG] PTP450 maximum xmit power?

2014-10-09 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We have some new PTP450 radios, and I could swear that when I first set them up, they let me set the maximum transmit power to 22 dBm. When I just turned them on to test with sync injection, they are now saying maximum is 19 dBm (or 16 + 16). WTF?!? Did I change something accidentally to c

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Reduce the cost of education and healthcare and you have a educated, healthy workforce with more disposable income. Not only are they able to produce more, but they also have more disposable income. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Or cut out HALF of the $3 TRILLION we spend on alleged health care. bp On 10/9/2014 2:50 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: Awesome. Then do what Germany recently did, which is making college virtually free by removing tuition costs. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/get-a-free-college-degree-passport

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Glen Waldrop via Af
Check the prices for those procedures in other countries. Our medical system is out of touch with the rest of the world. I spoke with another Lyme patient who went to visit friends in Japan and got an MRI done there. The expense from the trip and testing still didn't touch what an MRI costs in

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Most of my kids have gone to BYU, so... pretty conservative fare. I have a couple of heretics that went to USU and one that got a degree in Cornwall England. But none of them have complained about liberal agendas. From: Travis Johnson via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:29 PM To: af@afm

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Travis Johnson via Af
OTOH, I have two girls in college... both honor students with a 4.0 at two different colleges. They both hated all the "dumb" classes they had to take at first, but then after a year or two, they both recognized the value in those type of classes. They are involved in many outside associations

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
And if you had no insurance as a millennial in a middle class family taking out federal loans to go to college... and you had to have surgery on something... expect to be paying all that off until you're around 45. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

Re: [AFMUG] What mount would you used for hanging a wire?

2014-10-09 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Thanks. I'll use it as my foundation. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What mount would you used for hanging a wire? Personally I like unistrut and hardware. T

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Travis Johnson via Af
It's not the routine care and occasional small health issue, it's when the $500,000 heart attack happens. Or the $300,000 kidney failure. Or even the $100,000 surgery... that's really what insurance is for. They charge "full retail" when they have to bill insurance because it's such a pain to

Re: [AFMUG] Monitoring Diesel fuel level

2014-10-09 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
image recognition: https://code.google.com/p/find-object/wiki/FindObjectsWithWebcam I have an idea in mind to monitor anything via cacti: step 1) image recognition of when a dial gauge/needle reaches a certain position step 2) append value onto the end of a text file reachable by http step 3)

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Part of this problem is that unchecked immigration has driven down the wages in these fields. It’s harder today to raise a family as a carpenter or mechanic than it was 40 years ago. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09,

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
I have 2 boys in college. Both boys are going into science fields of one kind or another and both will get post-graduate degrees. However, as a parent, when I have to pay for classes such as Beatles History, sexual history of the human race, or a couple other really stupid humanities classes s

Re: [AFMUG] Monitoring Diesel fuel level

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Now you're talking. You can even wire it up to an ethernet port. When closed it loops back on itself. Easy to monitor. -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monitoring Diesel fuel level Float sw

Re: [AFMUG] Monitoring Diesel fuel level

2014-10-09 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af
On 10/9/14, 13:08, Nate Burke via Af wrote: Anybody had a Diesel tank level monitor that they like? Preferably something that could Wire into a Site Monitor for monitoring. Needing to monitor 2 Generator tanks. one is about 6" deep, 20Gallon. The other is about 24" deep, 50 gallon. The 6" Tan

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Glen Waldrop via Af
I think the general population thinks machines do all the technical work. Finding someone that knows how to work concrete, run electrical, plumbing, etc, correctly is much harder than it was 20 years ago. - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Monitoring Diesel fuel level

2014-10-09 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Float switch Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 10/9/14, 4:12 PM, "Chuck McCown via Af" wrote: >I have used an ultrasonic sensor in a water tank. > >I have put cameras on tank indicators. > >There are pressure transducers that w

Re: [AFMUG] What mount would you used for hanging a wire?

2014-10-09 Thread Jerry Richardson via Af
Personally I like unistrut and hardware. There is a part for virtually every applications I have ever thought of. JR From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] What mount would you used f

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Awesome. Then do what Germany recently did, which is making college virtually free by removing tuition costs. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/get-a-free-college-degree-passport-required/ Now you have a population that isn't drowning in 1.2TRILLION dollars in student debt. OTOH, having a college

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Glen Waldrop via Af
another +1 - Original Message - From: Paul McCall via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare +1 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:54 PM

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Glen Waldrop via Af
The hospital, yes. The doctor's office, no. I was a cash patient going to a specialist. My insurance price is around $175, my cash price was $130. Same with my meds, I paid cash price at my pharmacy and one run would be $66. With insurance they bill full retail which is closer to double that an

Re: [AFMUG] Monitoring Diesel fuel level

2014-10-09 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
I would get a $150 1080p IP camera and aim it at a gauge... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16881400025 search for model DS-2CD2032-I on youtube, you will find lots of good sample videos. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: > Anybody had a Diesel tank

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Chris Wright via Af
Unchecked profiteering. But hells no get that gov’ment outta muh bisnis! Chris Wright Velociter Wireless From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare If

[AFMUG] What mount would you used for hanging a wire?

2014-10-09 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
I have a 2' parapet wall on both sides that I have to go over. The wall is braced enough to the hold a wire and the total distance is about 40'. Basically I was going to mount to the inside of the parapet wall with something like a J-mount . Just wondering if I should do channel bar and a pipe in

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Sean Heskett via Af
Yes corporate welfare is very damaging to capitalism and the economy. Banks, car manufactures, airlines, on and on. On Thursday, October 9, 2014, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: > It can’t if it’s constantly chipped apart from the bottom up. Between > continued growth of the welfare state, uncheck

Re: [AFMUG] 13.2 (Build34) Beta Software is Now Available!‏‏

2014-10-09 Thread timothy steele via Af
Can you define heavy IP environment? Dose that only apply to routed mode or also IP's flowing over a bridge?  — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Mandziara via Af wrote: > AF Users, > 13.2 (Build 34) is now available. > https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/beta > Please

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Adam Moffett via Af
If you go into a Doctor's office and receive aspirin and a hug, you'll still get a $500 bill (or your insurance will). I'd love it if we could address whatever drives the costs up. Collin, socialized medicine or socialized anything doesn’t work. What happened to the idea that Capitalism buil

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Paul McCall via Af
+1 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare It can’t if it’s constantly chipped apart from the bottom up. Between continued growth of the welfare state, unchecked immigration

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
It can’t if it’s constantly chipped apart from the bottom up. Between continued growth of the welfare state, unchecked immigration and growth of an uneducated population, and lawlessness from the President on down, Capitalism won’t survive. Unfortunately, if it fails, then so does the country

Re: [AFMUG] Monitoring Diesel fuel level

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
I have used an ultrasonic sensor in a water tank. I have put cameras on tank indicators. There are pressure transducers that work down in the inches of water pressures. Motorola used to make them. You could put a strain gauge under one end and weigh the tank. A float on a stick that comes v

[AFMUG] Monitoring Diesel fuel level

2014-10-09 Thread Nate Burke via Af
Anybody had a Diesel tank level monitor that they like? Preferably something that could Wire into a Site Monitor for monitoring. Needing to monitor 2 Generator tanks. one is about 6" deep, 20Gallon. The other is about 24" deep, 50 gallon. The 6" Tank is Steel and has a cheap float guage. S

[AFMUG] 13.2 (Build34) Beta Software is Now Available!‏‏

2014-10-09 Thread Jonathan Mandziara via Af
AF Users, 13.2 (Build 34) is now available. https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/beta Please download it and let us know what you think. We expect this to be the LAST Open Beta version of 13.2. We are wrapping up this release and have a general question to the Open Beta Users. For all the use

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Chris Wright via Af
While capitalism may have built the greatest country in the world, some think capitalism cannot sustain the greatest country in the world. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09

Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads

2014-10-09 Thread TJ Trout via Af
http://www.ebay.com/itm/N-Male-LMR-400-UF-Ultra-Flex-Lowest-Loss-RF-Jumper-Patch-Cable-Times-Microwave-3-/230781513328?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bba66e70 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:26 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: > is ultraflex actually pretty flexible? > We used to make our own ends, bu

Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads

2014-10-09 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
240 On 10/9/2014 1:55 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: I hate lmr400 which is what we have always used. Is N-N LMR 195 lead sufficient, or what flexible leads are folks using for antenna connections -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reass

Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads

2014-10-09 Thread That One Guy via Af
is ultraflex actually pretty flexible? We used to make our own ends, but theyre solder type ends they had us crimping on, and on top of it you can trust a tech knucklehead to secure the lead without cranking on it. i just want lowish loss leads with factory ends that are flexible enough to offset t

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread David via Af
+1 cable comb or setup something to keep them seperated as they come off spools. We use plastic funnels sprayed with teflon screwed to a sawhorse in front of the cable wench. On 10/09/2014 02:05 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af wrote: Get a cable comb and tape them together as they leave it into the cond

Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
That is plenty long for 5 GHz. It will work but you will have a loss of .29 dB per foot. From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads short runs with the radio on the same pipe as the antenna less than 36" in 5

Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads

2014-10-09 Thread TJ Trout via Af
Get some lmr400 ultraflex and make your own jumpers On Oct 9, 2014 12:04 PM, "Matt Jenkins via Af" wrote: > I have lots of PTP600 and PTP650 links up. I always use LMR400 or for > long leads LMR600 > > Matthew Jenkins > SmarterBroadbandmatt@sbbinc.net530.272.4000 > > On 10/09/2014 11:55 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads

2014-10-09 Thread That One Guy via Af
short runs with the radio on the same pipe as the antenna less than 36" in 5ghz On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: > Totally depends on the frequency and length of run. > > > *From:* That One Guy via Af > *Sent:* Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:55 PM > *To:* af@afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Totally depends on the frequency and length of run. From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads I hate lmr400 which is what we have always used. Is N-N LMR 195 lead sufficient, or what flexible leads are folks us

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
Get a cable comb and tape them together as they leave it into the conduit. Keeps it nice and tight. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, David via Af wrote: > We make our own chinese finger lock per cable and stagger each one in the > pipe while using tape and ziptie to hold heads or

Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads

2014-10-09 Thread Matt Jenkins via Af
I have lots of PTP600 and PTP650 links up. I always use LMR400 or for long leads LMR600 Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 10/09/2014 11:55 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: I hate lmr400 which is what we have always used. Is N-N LMR 195 lead sufficient, or what

[AFMUG] ptp650 antenna leads

2014-10-09 Thread That One Guy via Af
I hate lmr400 which is what we have always used. Is N-N LMR 195 lead sufficient, or what flexible leads are folks using for antenna connections -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't

Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Napkin == Kotex Bloody == Damn Pants == Underwear From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime Go to England and tell the lady you need a napkin for your bloody nose. Or for your dirty pants. From: Gino Villarini via

Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Go to England and tell the lady you need a napkin for your bloody nose. Or for your dirty pants. From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime Yea… spanish has a lot of variables… here in PR we call cakes “bizcochos”

Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime

2014-10-09 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Yea… spanish has a lot of variables… here in PR we call cakes “bizcochos” whereas in other countries that same word means vagina(in a vulgar way).. So go figure when you go to a bakery and ask for bizcocho to the lady clerk… lol!!! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. w

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread David via Af
We make our own chinese finger lock per cable and stagger each one in the pipe while using tape and ziptie to hold heads or body of cable against rope at tie off point. +1 wire lube if you have to go thru corners. HDPFE Conduit is what we use since last year. there are tricks of the trade for g

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Groups rates either went up or services went down. We will spend at least $6K more this year minimum. The year isn’t over yet. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Obamacare provides subsidies if your income is < $63,000 per year. Over that, and the subsidy is zip. bp On 10/9/2014 11:14 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: According to the insurance guy I was talking to recently, in Wisconsin the private plans are what had a 200% increase (or more) this yea

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread James Howard via Af
According to the insurance guy I was talking to recently, in Wisconsin the private plans are what had a 200% increase (or more) this year. Sounds like you might have had that happen in Illinois too. Group rates are generally lower. I think you can qualify for a group rate with a very small nu

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
On 10/9/14, 1:52 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: I'm not following you on the tape recommendation. How do you keep the bundle together if you remove the tape before it goes into the conduit? Do you tape at regular intervals then remove the tape as just before it hits the conduit? Correct. It

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Yes, which is around 2.2%. 7,040,000 250K+ / 320,000,000 below 250k. Median household earnings are $51,000/yr. So you're talking about earning 5x more than the average US household. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/09/20

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread That One Guy via Af
The plan was private not group, does group cost more? I would expect it to be less. if I made 250k I wouldnt really care about paying double for a plan I never looked at group because I assumed I wouldnt have staff for at least a year. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Simon Westlake via Af
I thought it was great when I was there. Granted, I left 12 years ago, the rest of my family is still using it though. My grandmother just had to have some pretty significant treatment on the NHS. On 10/9/2014 12:54 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: One of my daughters lives in England. She loves

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
If you don’t get subsidies or if you make over $250K per year, welcome to the rich category as defined by the government. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
We were paying more, something like $1500. On self insurance that went below $750 for the same coverage. From: Travis Johnson via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare We currently pay about $1,200/month for our benefits package, per em

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
One of my daughters lives in England. She loves the health care system there. From: Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare Collin, socialized medicine or socialized anything doesn’t work. What happened to the idea that

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
It's not rated for gigabit. On 10/9/2014 11:51 AM, CARL PETERSON via Af wrote: Why not just pull one 100 pair OSP? That should equal 25 individual runs. http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/Product_Information/Premises_Copper/MEGAPIC_CAT5.pdf Carl Peterson *PORT

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
I'm not following you on the tape recommendation. How do you keep the bundle together if you remove the tape before it goes into the conduit? Do you tape at regular intervals then remove the tape as just before it hits the conduit? Randy On 10/9/2014 11:41 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Yeah, the state regulations were a total clusterf!@k. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/09/2014 07:56 AM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote: "The best idea would have been simple and cheap. 1)Don’t let insurance companies keep pe

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread CARL PETERSON via Af
Why not just pull one 100 pair OSP? That should equal 25 individual runs. http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/Product_Information/Premises_Copper/MEGAPIC_CAT5.pdf Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 On Oct 9, 20

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
Lube, Lube, and more Lube :-) Down is a lot easier than up. It's absolutely critical to keep the cables very neat as they go into the conduit. Twist them up and it's not going to work. Tape them neatly ahead of time but DON'T let the tape go in the conduit. Have the helper take it off ri

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
"but... Free Market!" "liberty!" "It'll be okay, I've got my gun.If I runinto any ebola I'mma shoot that sumbitch!" Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/09/2014 04:12 AM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote: What did people expect?

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Travis Johnson via Af
We currently pay about $1,200/month for our benefits package, per employee (and family). That's health, dental and vision. Travis On 10/9/2014 10:54 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: wealth transfer? Im not rich. Last year when contemplating going out on my own and opening up shop one of the huge

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
signatureCable grip. Electrical supply houses will have various sizes. Would be a piece of cake if not for the 90 degree bends, how large radius? Standard conduit bender radius? Often easier to do those bends with liquitite, if necessary you can disconnect the fittings and pull the cable thr

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Mike Greene via Af
I recently pulled Shireen Cat6 Shielded. 12 runs in a 1.5 carlon PVC conduit, no bends, it was tight and in retrospect I should have gone with 2" conduit. It was a 260' pull, straight up the tower. Mike Greene Rock Island Technology Solutions 360-378-5884 x201 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
Thanks for the tips. I forgot to link to the table. How many cat6 cables did you pull? Does this table look realistic or overly conservative? http://i.dslr.net/syms/f2495df981639d43c9b114343f451413.gif On 10/9/2014 11:04 AM, Mike Greene via Af wrote: signature I've done a number of long p

Re: [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!

2014-10-09 Thread Shayne Lebrun via Af
Yeah, this would be tricky, as if you have any client not on for any reason when you swap Aps, they’re orphan. Don’t get me wrong, it’s better than nothing, but even something like the 450’s 430 compatibility mode would solve this, or have it try CanopyMagic on reboot, then drop to 802.11, o

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Mike Greene via Af
I've done a number of long pulls in 2" conduit with cat6 shielded (and electrical too) you can make the pull go much easier if you: - Stagger the cables and have at least one about 24" longer than the rest, loop that one cable back and tape it to a bundle of 2 or 3 other cables, tape

Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime

2014-10-09 Thread Cameron Crum via Af
Ken, Careful when talking about Cubanos...I had a very interesting experience with that word while living in Buenos Aires. In the all to common traffic jams, guys will walk between the cars selling "Cubanos". They are like waffle cones rolled up with dolce de leche inside. One day I was was in a t

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser via Af
there is a cable pulling lubricant out there, i would soak the cable in that before pulling Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 > On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Randy Cosby via Af w

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread That One Guy via Af
wealth transfer? Im not rich. Last year when contemplating going out on my own and opening up shop one of the huge factors was insurance. The plan I got quoted was going to run me around 450 a month to cover me and my kids with a comparable amount of coverage to what i was getting through work. I w

Re: [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!

2014-10-09 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi via Af
Paul is right. There’s quite a bit of variables to account for auto selection. No doubt, there are enhancements that can be done in this area. But for the sake of time, we wanted to get the functionality out first and then create automation around it later. Good feedback, Steve! From: Af [mailt

Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af
On 10/9/14, 9:48, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: How would you pull a bundle like that? What do you use to attach the cables together before pulling? Just electrical tape? Any other suggestions? If you must pull that many vs. a switch up top, a pulling sock (one of those Chinese finger trap l

[AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2" conduit

2014-10-09 Thread Randy Cosby via Af
I have a project that has about 50 feet of 2" metal conduit running to the top of a water tank. There are two large-radius bends in the conduit. We want to pull as many cat5e cables as possible. We'll need at least 18. I found this table and compared the size of UBNT Toughcable. It looks

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Collin, socialized medicine or socialized anything doesn’t work. What happened to the idea that Capitalism built the greatest country and the greatest health care in the world. Why does everybody forget that and keep wanting to go back to the failed systems in Europe, Socialism, Communism.

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Amen brother Conlin. The way I see it, the biggest problem is that ObamaCare didn't go far enough. We really, really need to have a system that gets a handle on the costs. The cost to US citizens is more than double the cost to other developed countries. Just peruse this: http://www.huffi

Re: [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!

2014-10-09 Thread Paul McCall via Af
That might be a bit tricky to coordinate all the variables. It’s quite easy to change all the SMs via SNMP , so I would imagine getting all the ePMP SMs online with WiFI, then issuing an SNMP command to them to change to normal mode and reboot, then change the APs then everything would come up.

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Duncan Scott via Af
Item 1 only works if you require that people have coverage. Otherwise lots of people will wait until they have a significant medical issue and then go buy coverage. I'm skeptical that 2 or 3 would have any effect on costs. 4. So much for state rights... I have an alternate list: 1. Make it

Re: [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!

2014-10-09 Thread Steve D via Af
For these situations where someone might want two configurations, it would be nice to be able to pre-load configurations and if the sm can't connect to an AP for a set amount of time, it loads the other config and tries that, and goes back and forth until it locks on. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:20 A

Re: [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!

2014-10-09 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi via Af
Shayne, It doesn’t do that automatically. You have to explicitly configure the SM to operate in Standard WiFi mode (from the Quick Start or Configuration->Radio page) to connect to an AP operating standard 802.11. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun

Re: [AFMUG] OT Gino, Jaime

2014-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
I also walk every evening as religiously as I can and hike on weekends. I want to see my 11 (1 in oven) grandkids graduate college. When I can't climb anymore, I want to teach history. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrot

Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

2014-10-09 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af
On 10/9/14, 8:10, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: And everyone keeps touting the “great” systems of health care in Canada and Europe. Those systems are fine if you have the flu but if you need an MRI, it could take months. If you have cancer late in life, I suggest your will is ready. It’s easier

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