Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 vs Packetflux

2017-02-02 Thread George Skorup
Yes. The 450m has an Aux port capable of powering a UGPS and receiving sync from it. Same goes for the SyncBox Junior Aux version. I've used them on several 450i's and they work great. Except the GPS data, which Cambium still needs to fix on the 450i. They also broke autoSyncStatus via SNMP in

[AFMUG] "Up to x mbps"

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
http://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/local/2017/02/01/lawsuit-spectrum-time-warner-built-scheme-defraud/97350264/ TL;DR : State of NY is suing Spectrum for defrauding consumers. Some of the claims in the suit: Selling 300mbps internet and providing an older model modem only capable of 20mbp

Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

2017-02-02 Thread Colin Stanners
I'm careful of possibly aged-on-shelf batteries as well, but our purchasing from TelecomSurplus has been great so my first assumption would be that these are OK - best to contact them and ask. On Feb 2, 2017 6:40 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Pretty suspicious of "surplus" batteries that have been

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 vs Packetflux

2017-02-02 Thread David Milholen
Im just the opposite. All of our Sync/control are CMM4/CTM2 and now CMM5. I cant argue price point but I cant argue total reliability either. Since our total cambium deployment of cmm4 the sync just works ,the surge protection just works and the poe just works. This year we did not lose a s

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 vs Packetflux

2017-02-02 Thread Bill Prince
So if the gigabit syncinjector can power the 450M (but won't supply sync), does that mean I can use a 4 channel Gigabit POE injector for power, and use a SyncBox Junior for sync? -bp On Thursday, February 2, 2017 3:44 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: Hi Sean, since the 15.0.2.1 firmware release,

Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

2017-02-02 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Pretty suspicious of "surplus" batteries that have been sitting around self discharging for a long time. Sunelec.com is selling Outback 106RE batteries (12V 100Ah) at $185 ea. On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > TelecomSurplus recently mailed: > C&D Technologies TEL Long D

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Graybar has a Joliet warehouse, I wonder if you are within their delivery area. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 6:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo IMC is special order at all of the Men

Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

2017-02-02 Thread Colin Stanners
TelecomSurplus recently mailed: C&D Technologies TEL Long Duration Series Batteries 100 Ah AGM with Front Access In Stock & Ready to Ship! On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off grid > PV. Wondering if anyone has

[AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

2017-02-02 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off grid PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal for something like the Trojan T31 or similar.

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread George Skorup
IMC is special order at all of the Menards around here. On 2/2/2017 5:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: For anyone who has never worked with IMC, compared to rigid conduit it is lighter, stronger, has more interior space, and costs less. It is however more difficult to hand bend and in some areas may

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
For anyone who has never worked with IMC, compared to rigid conduit it is lighter, stronger, has more interior space, and costs less. It is however more difficult to hand bend and in some areas may be harder to find. Rigid conduit is extruded, IMC is formed out of sheet stock and welded, the f

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 vs Packetflux

2017-02-02 Thread Sam Lambie
Hi Sean, since the 15.0.2.1 firmware release, have you had a chance to hang the 450m yet? If so, how is it performing? On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > Hi Gang, > > sorry I'm late to the conversation. > > We have successfully provided sync over power to our 450m's using: >

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread George Skorup
We've done 1-1/4" and 2" Sch40 PVC up water towers and grain legs. Clamp every 3-4 feet or it will get all slinky. On 2/2/2017 1:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Straight PVC conduit is cheaper than flex. If you used IMC, like Ken is saying, then it's rugged as hell and you'd never get a better RF s

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
thats was it, you guys fucking heros On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yep, I just did it. When you save as PNG you get the dialog box and you > can select white to be transparent. I think this is a basic feature of PNG > files. > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursd

Re: [AFMUG] I Want

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, it certainly would protect you in the event of rectifier failure. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want if youre doing a standby generator at a dc site, even an AC fed DC site, wouldnt it be more efficient to

Re: [AFMUG] I Want

2017-02-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
if youre doing a standby generator at a dc site, even an AC fed DC site, wouldnt it be more efficient to use a dc generator, with less maintenance? On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Ah yes, I see. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep, I just did it. When you save as PNG you get the dialog box and you can select white to be transparent. I think this is a basic feature of PNG files. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
When you save the image there's a checkbox to make white transparent. Make sure the background is actually white. I think in image properties it's brightness 100%, contrast 0%. Or in some later version he added a "white background" radio button. -- Original Message -- From: "That On

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
May have to save as PNG too. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth Did you set picture properties to white? From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:37 PM T

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Did you set picture properties to white? From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth so that works, but the white is still showing up. somewhere i thought there was an opacity set

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
so that works, but the white is still showing up. somewhere i thought there was an opacity setting that made the white clear i wish i used RM regularly, its so good, bet its so intermittent that everytime i use it it burns two days On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Seriously

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
So if propagation must be legally controlled, is Tim Hardy the equivalent of... condem salesmen or a diaphram fitters or perhaps a dating service? A dating service the wants to see your birth control methods prior to the first date. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, February 02, 20

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
Seriously though, I think loading overlays was broken in either the Google Maps API or Google Earth API at some pointthat might be what you're thinking of. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/2/2017 5:18:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio m

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
thanks! there is a joke about pence overriding him because stopping propagation is like abortion in there somewhere, but im not on my A game On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I heard Trump was gonna deport Roger Coude though, so maybe it will break > then > > > > -- Ori

Re: [AFMUG] I Want

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
Ah yes, I see. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/2/2017 5:28:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want Perfect for off-grid solar backup. From:Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:27 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want Man, sounds li

Re: [AFMUG] I Want

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Perfect for off-grid solar backup. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want Man, sounds like a lot of money for 6kW. Variable speed must save a lot of gas though. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@af

Re: [AFMUG] I Want

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
Man, sounds like a lot of money for 6kW. Variable speed must save a lot of gas though. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/2/2017 5:25:35 PM Subject: [AFMUG] I Want Have to come up with a reason but I want it: https://www.norwall.com/products/Kohler-6

[AFMUG] I Want

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Have to come up with a reason but I want it: https://www.norwall.com/products/Kohler-6kW-Variable-Speed-Direct-Current-Generator-with-Oil-Make-Up-Kit-48-Volt-DC-6VSG?cid=google_feed&dfw_tracker=6374-6VSG-QS13&gclid=COWuo4-68tECFUdlfgodl8oG_A

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
I heard Trump was gonna deport Roger Coude though, so maybe it will break then -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/2/2017 5:17:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth Nah, it still works. Plot coverage on a white

Re: [AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
Nah, it still works. Plot coverage on a white background. Save image as a PNG with white as transparent. A KML gets saved alongside the image. Open KML in Google Earth, then re-save it as a KMZ. The KMZ will contain the image and the KML in one file.otherwise you have to email multiple fi

[AFMUG] exporting radio mobile propagation to google earth

2017-02-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i used to do this all the time, now i cant remember how. Im plotting for midpoint scouting. I need to put it on a kml for the guy to go to the target areas marking structures. being able to interact in google earth is a requirement and there are other specifics if i recall correctly there was an g

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti probe for Siklu?

2017-02-02 Thread Steve Utick
Cool, thank you for confirming that Peter. On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Peter Kranz wrote: > I use the same template for both my 1200’s and 2200’s.. the MIB/Software > is the same. > > > > > *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com > Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <(510)%20868-

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
Straight PVC conduit is cheaper than flex. If you used IMC, like Ken is saying, then it's rugged as hell and you'd never get a better RF shielding than that. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 2/2/2017 1:35:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Flexible condu

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
If I go to Culvers between 4 and 5pm, I’m the youngest customer in the place. I’ll order the fish though. Maybe the term “Butter Burger” just sounds unhealthy. That never stopped me from ordering a Big Boy though. I don’t think we have Big Boys in Illinois anymore. One of the WISPAmericas t

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Unless you are a farmer in Quincy, Illinois. They kick out smelly farmers. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 12:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V I do like 5guys, but I think culvers is better. On Feb 2, 2017 1:07 P

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Mathew Howard
Culvers meat has no taste... 5 guys is good, but definitely over priced. On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I do like 5guys, but I think culvers is better. > > On Feb 2, 2017 1:07 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > >> News today said they now have a Big Mac vending machine. >> >> I a

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Reynolds
I do like 5guys, but I think culvers is better. On Feb 2, 2017 1:07 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > News today said they now have a Big Mac vending machine. > > I assume this doesn't fix the issue of no taste. I'll eat burgers from > almost any other chain, but McDonalds must have a secret process fo

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
News today said they now have a Big Mac vending machine. I assume this doesn't fix the issue of no taste. I'll eat burgers from almost any other chain, but McDonalds must have a secret process for removing all taste from beef. Their fries are OK. Where can I get a Smashburger with McDonalds

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Tim Reichhart
See where I am at I got access to: Lowes Home Depot Rural King Menards This is in Ohio I get most of my conduit is from Menards since I am only 15mins away from the local store. Where as Lowes/Rural King I am about 45mins away and Closes Home Depot is about hour away from me. -Original

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
I always go a bit bigger on conduit than I need... Makes life easier.. On Feb 2, 2017 11:35 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: Is the advantage of straight runs just a smoother line run inside? We're only looking at a 76 foot silo. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
How do you spend that much I wonder. Only so many big macs you can eat in a lifetime. I guess I would have lobster and scallops frequently too. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch t

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Is the advantage of straight runs just a smoother line run inside? We're only looking at a 76 foot silo. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Home Depot has too much made-in-China-Hom

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or you can be like Johnny Depp and get divorced and your ex wants half the fortune and it turns out there's no fortune because you spent it. Not sure I can criticize him for spending it. What's the point of making millions if you can't spend it blasting someone's ashes into space with a cannon

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Gino Villarini
A bigger netonix? And power it by extracting the POE and feeding to the DC ports? On 2/2/17, 11:38 AM, "Af on behalf of Nate Burke" wrote: >Anything with More Ports? I'm looking at 2-3 phones, and 5-6 cameras. >Still very low power draw overall. > >On 2/2/2017 9:31 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] w

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Home Depot has too much made-in-China-HomeDepot-brand stuff now. I like that Menards carries a lot of made-in-USA stuff. But for manly stuff, maybe Farm&Fleet? We have Rural King but that might be an Illinois thing. Serious electrical parts I head to Graybar. The flexible conduit at big box

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Nate Burke
Then It's not my problem anymore? On 2/2/2017 10:25 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: What about when you're dead or get a new job? -- Original Message -- From: "Nate Burke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/2/2017 11:19:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V OK, so it

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
There isn't enough beer in the county. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Beer Goggles > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:18 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Beer Goggles From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo Home Depot is in Piqua. There are no cute ones in Piqua. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 O

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Home Depot is in Piqua. There are no cute ones in Piqua. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Lowe's is for chicks and girly menHome Depot is a man's > storeLots of

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lowe's is for chicks and girly menHome Depot is a man's storeLots of cute ones too...zaz On Feb 2, 2017 8:03 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Awesome, thank you sir. > > Couldn't find anything at Lowe's that would match up or anything so I have > to assume this isn't the liquidtite br

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
how many, of what type cables can you get in that 1 1/2? we did 4" grey pvc once, but with expansion joints and those big LBs it got pretty pricey pretty quick and the mounting turned out to be more complicated than expected On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Jeremy wrote: > I use 1 1/2" shielded

Re: [AFMUG] Urgently Looking for Andrew 6 ghz 3' Feedhorn

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
I might be able to repair it. Send photos. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Urgently Looking for Andrew 6 ghz 3' Feedhorn Broke in transit, need to replace it. Link in place! Anyone can spare one, I will replace Gi

[AFMUG] Urgently Looking for Andrew 6 ghz 3' Feedhorn

2017-02-02 Thread Gino Villarini
Broke in transit, need to replace it. Link in place! Anyone can spare one, I will replace Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Reynolds
NETCONF is for configuration, not data export. XML formatting is nice, and might be useful in a monitoring method not reliant on MIBs. I've actually been rolling this around in my brain today... Like if I were to build a open standard for a real SNMP replacement, what features would it have? Aut

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
Netgear came out with higher end POE version On Feb 2, 2017 9:41 AM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Or both? > > Haha, "I alone control the room". > > And what about "rouge" devices? I'm not sure what they are, but > apparently they are common these days. Maybe because you can't say "off > the reservat

Re: [AFMUG] Hosting recommendation

2017-02-02 Thread Justin Wilson
talk to Scott at On-Ramp. I am not familiar with Expression Engine but he would be a good start. sc...@staff.ori.net Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange

[AFMUG] Hosting recommendation

2017-02-02 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I have a friend that is asking me for help selecting a new web hosting location for an active domain. It requires basic hosting functions (SQL, Perl, PHP, etc)... but he would also like to find someone that can help maintain, update, etc. the website backend and filtering attacks, etc. I

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs

2017-02-02 Thread Sean Heskett
Email is good Gino. My regular email is sean at zirkel dot us. Thx!! I owe ya some beers at Wispapalooza ;-) -sean On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 1:23 PM Gino Villarini wrote: > Sure.. Ill send them over , email? > > From: Af on behalf of Sean Heskett > > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Wednes

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti probe for Siklu?

2017-02-02 Thread Peter Kranz
I use the same template for both my 1200's and 2200's.. the MIB/Software is the same. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Beh

[AFMUG] Good alternative for CRS106-1C-5S

2017-02-02 Thread Paul McCall
We have a couple situations where we need a cheap way of adding a couple ports to a switch that has run out of fiber ports. I got excited to see this model... CRS106-1C-5S, but no one has it. I liked the Mikrotik for consistency and management Any good suggestions for an alternative? Paul Mc

Re: [AFMUG] Providing Service at Different Rates / in Different Markets

2017-02-02 Thread Dave
We under sale it. So, the expectation is what it is. The up to and starting at puts you in the marketing land of Cable-Co and Telco. We dont go there.. Yes, some areas cannot afford said package for said rate so we have a package that fits those areas but the package is cut back. On 02/01/20

[AFMUG] Upcoming Linux conference

2017-02-02 Thread Zach Underwood
I wanted to let everyone know about 2 upcoming Linux conference. They are a great chance to learn and meet other open source people. I will be at both leading the deployment of wired and wireless networks. At both of the events there are many companies that are looking to hire Linux sysadmin and Li

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or both? Haha, "I alone control the room". And what about "rouge" devices? I'm not sure what they are, but apparently they are common these days. Maybe because you can't say "off the reservation" anymore. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Mo

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
What about when you're dead or get a new job? -- Original Message -- From: "Nate Burke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/2/2017 11:19:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V OK, so it's not that there is no power in there, it's that there is no UPS power in th

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Nate Burke
OK, so it's not that there is no power in there, it's that there is no UPS power in there, and the Office has a UPS that can feed it. And it's not a closet, but more of a room. And I can Guarantee that rogue devices will not be plugged into it (I alone control the room). On 2/2/2017 9:58 AM

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Does not play nice with others

2017-02-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
poor baby On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > But then.. > https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. > nydailynews.com%2Famp%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-mocks- > opponents-national-prayer-breakfast-speech-article-1.2962269#pt0-19347 > > On Feb 2, 2017 6:49 AM, "J

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Does not play nice with others

2017-02-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
But then.. https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nydailynews.com%2Famp%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-mocks-opponents-national-prayer-breakfast-speech-article-1.2962269#pt0-19347 On Feb 2, 2017 6:49 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Yes I read that But I have alternative facts W

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Adam Moffett
10 devices at 15.4W (802.3af standard) would be 154W. Unless the cable is very short, you'll suffer severe voltage drop. Something bad would happensomething bad like stuff not turning on or blowing an internal fuse in the power supply. Not catastrophe, just bad. I'm sure your individual

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Pretty sweet switch. I have one myself. -Original Message- From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 8:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V http://www.ispsupplies.com/Netonix-WS-6-MINI POE in on port 1. 24 or

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
How much would it cost to have an electrician wire that closet with an outlet, and maybe an exhaust fan. I worry about a POE switch in a closet with no ventilation. Now throw a few hats and coats on top of it. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City Fiber

2017-02-02 Thread Craig Schmaderer
It’s a cool setup, but it’s a lot more fun installing the fiber myself and owning everything. :) Maybe it is time for you to get back in the game Travis! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 9:37 AM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Nothing with more ports except the S16 or EP-R8. Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Nate Burke
Anything with More Ports? I'm looking at 2-3 phones, and 5-6 cameras. Still very low power draw overall. On 2/2/2017 9:31 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: http://www.ispsupplies.com/Netonix-WS-6-MINI POE in on port 1. 24 or 48 out on 2-6. Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-9

[AFMUG] Ammon City Fiber

2017-02-02 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Here is the new fiber network that has been developed over the last 6 years in a suburb of Idaho Falls. A quick breakdown: Fiber install = $3,000 to the homeowner, or financed at $15/month as a bond against the property for 20 years. Fiber transport for 100Mbps = $25/month to the city IS

Re: [AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
http://www.ispsupplies.com/Netonix-WS-6-MINI POE in on port 1. 24 or 48 out on 2-6. Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:28 AM T

Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

2017-02-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
WW11 Brazero programOnly problem, many farmers didn't pay the workers and then they rounded them up and deported them. Not in any Texas history books On Feb 2, 2017 7:49 AM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > You know, there are some common sense ideas that would allow "guests" to > work here legally

[AFMUG] POE-IN Powered Switch that will do 48 and 24V

2017-02-02 Thread Nate Burke
Is there another POE-IN powered switch, ALA Edgepoint S16, that can do both 48 and 24V output? I have a remote wiring closet with no power, but want to put a switch there to power a couple VoIP Phones and ubnt cameras. I'd like to power the switch and subsequent POE devices via 1 or 2 cat5 fe

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB1000

2017-02-02 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yes, don't buy one. Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant - MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] The smallest Mikrotik with a 10GbE port

2017-02-02 Thread Dennis Burgess
We should have them today or tomorrow . Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

2017-02-02 Thread Jay Weekley
I'm not saying a good program would be just for cheap labor or for anyone from a specific country. Chuck McCown wrote: There is a This American Life episode about an ag operation the was essentially keeping H-2A workers on site as slaves. Give them 1 egg or a half egg for breakfast, crappy li

Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

2017-02-02 Thread Jay Weekley
Yep. There are some ideas that could make most people happy. I get cheap labor for my potato farm and Joe Six Pack has a secure border. Ken Hohhof wrote: H-2A Agricultural Guest Worker program, but that's not exactly a model of how to do it well. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto

Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
There is a This American Life episode about an ag operation the was essentially keeping H-2A workers on site as slaves. Give them 1 egg or a half egg for breakfast, crappy living conditions. It was an interesting broadcast. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Thursday, Febru

Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
H-2A Agricultural Guest Worker program, but that's not exactly a model of how to do it well. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van? You know, there

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Awesome, thank you sir. Couldn't find anything at Lowe's that would match up or anything so I have to assume this isn't the liquidtite brand. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > If

Re: [AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Chuck McCown
If you use liquidtite and use the proper connectors, you don’t need to put in a drip loop or 180 to keep the water out. Any bend you make in that stuff makes it harder to pull the wires through. But if you can pull the wires and you don’t have connectors then what you are describing is just fi

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Optics Transmit Data and Power Over Same Cable

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Reynolds
I need YouTube videos of this, pronto. On Feb 1, 2017 12:21 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > On 2/1/17 10:19, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> Epilog Zing CNC laser cutters start at 30 watts I think. So a 60 watt >> laser on a fiber could certainly cut flesh and insulation and paper etc. >> > > > It'll mak

[AFMUG] Flexible conduit up silo

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
This is our first time ever using conduit. Lowe's didn't have any goose necks or anything so I'm thinking I'll run the conduit up (so the opening is facing earth) and then do a 180* down the silo and into the shack/our NEMA box. Is this what everyone else does or is there an alternative? Josh Lu

Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

2017-02-02 Thread Jay Weekley
You know, there are some common sense ideas that would allow "guests" to work here legally while removing the "once you're put one toe on American soil you're here to stay" mentality. Unfortunately, no president from any party has even floated the idea that I am aware of. Instead, immigrants,

Re: [AFMUG] Providing Service at Different Rates / in Different Markets

2017-02-02 Thread Cameron Crum
Christopher, FCC basically wants advertised plan rates which makes the whole thing BS, but what else are you going to do? I guess they assume you aren't advertising more than you can actually deliver. Taking the speed at each customer location is somewhat impractical for such purposes unless you j

Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these

2017-02-02 Thread Cameron Crum
I like this dark fiber model too, but I think it's been tried, probably at the wrong time though. I know there were several companies doing that down here in the DFW area back in the late 90's. None left. My buddy, who worked for one for a while ended up taking the job as IT Director for the city o

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Groundhog Day

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Phil wants to know if this “extreme vet” is the same guy who famously dropped Staten Island Chuck back in 2014, leading to Chuck’s death and the current wave of climate change. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:11

Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

2017-02-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
We have a maintenance shop bldg. next to a used car lot that specializes in 1-2 year old Fords from auction. He has a 15 passenger 2016 Transit 350 van sitting out there. I was thinking you could haul 15 illegal aliens to a job site, except hasn’t Trump deported them all by now? So maybe 15 d

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Does not play nice with others

2017-02-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes I read that But I have alternative facts Where is Pat Paulsen when we need him? On Feb 1, 2017 9:55 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > as long as youre going by unconfirmed reports from "people in the know" > there is another article for people gullible enough to eat this one up f

Re: [AFMUG] Scheduling software for home automation

2017-02-02 Thread Timothy Steele
Thanks Simon! Vworkapp is exactly what I was looking for just wish it was a local company On Wed, Feb 1, 2017, 1:58 PM Simon Westlake wrote: > There's tons, just search for 'field scheduling software' and you'll get a > bunch. I've looked at: > > http://www.fieldtechnologies.com/ > https://www.v

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB1000

2017-02-02 Thread Rory Conaway
Nice, thanks. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB1000 So http://www.balticnetworks.com/mikrotik-case-for-rb2011-series-non-branded-indoor-steel-wall-mountable.html O

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB1000

2017-02-02 Thread George Skorup
So http://www.balticnetworks.com/mikrotik-case-for-rb2011-series-non-branded-indoor-steel-wall-mountable.html On 2/2/2017 2:16 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: Yea, just hate to buy a 2011 for a case. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup *Sent:* Thursday, Febr

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB1000

2017-02-02 Thread Rory Conaway
Yea, just hate to buy a 2011 for a case. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB1000 You can put the 3011 board into a 2011 case if you're after a smaller case or wall/back