*Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists
to maintain some illusion of human contact. I found
ill
>>> supported for a while afterwards,
>>> but that's the typical cycle,) so
>>> you generally want to be buying a
>>> newer chassis.
&g
I'm liking the built in DDOS controls. We can do that with our procera as well
but it requires some setup.
- Original Message -
From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:43:49 PM
Subjec
ething.
> Day turns to night and you make yourself stop when you can no longer focus
> on the screen.
>
> *From:* Simon Westlake
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:17 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
>
> Not anymore, the sad truth is I
" <cc...@wispmon.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:41:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Seisei will be at the show.
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com>
wrote:
> Anybody used these guys I kno
.
The hours fly by and you have a nice sense of satisfaction of building
something.
Day turns to night and you make yourself stop when you can no longer
focus on the screen.
*From:* Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:17 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
>
>>> You've discovered my secret identity
>>>
>>> On 10/6/2016 12:48 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> Wait, is this you?
>>>
>>> https://simonscat.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Wait, is this you?
>>
>> https://simonscat.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Simon Westlake
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:37 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
of satisfaction of building
something.
Day turns to night and you make yourself stop when you can no longer
focus on the screen.
*From:* Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:17 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Not anymore, the sad truth is I spend about 18 hours a day
on
the screen.
From: Simon Westlake
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Not anymore, the sad truth is I spend about 18 hours a day coding right now.
Still got a lot to do!
On 10/6/2016 1:13 PM, Steve wrote:
Oh admit it.. you spend
of each and your problem
is solved. Either way the NSA is watching.
- Original Message -
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:17:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Not anymore, t
>
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:36:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
>
> I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain
> some illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop
> about Android vs iPhones the other day, so t
the NSA is watching.
- Original Message -
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:17:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Not anymore, the sad truth is I spend about 18 hours a day coding r
" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:36:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain
some illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop
about Android vs iPhones the other day, so thought I'd bet
Oh admit it.. you spend half your day on Reddit.
- Original Message -
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:36:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I try to spend at least 3
ber 6, 2016 12:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
>
>
>
> I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain some
> illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop about
> Android vs iPhones the other day, so though
You've discovered my secret identity
On 10/6/2016 12:48 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Wait, is this you?
https://simonscat.com/
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I
Wait, is this you?
https://simonscat.com/
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain some
illusion
<mailto:simon@sonar.software>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some
solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools.
They'll send
Would be useless if you want updated signatures in the future.
- Original Message -
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:44:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I lost track of whet
.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their support staff about config.
I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar. What are you
tware>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some
solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools.
They'll send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so it's pretty
easy to
f@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in there, like linking
together initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers, and then tying them
to subsequent HTTPS connections. The biggest problem w
Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more about people who's
monthly usage exceeds 600GB.
-- Original Message --
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
To a degree, yeah.
ftware>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up paying list
on most of the licensing, and they won't support the hardware if it
fails. They EOL the hardware every 5 yea
Barracuda can.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
That's good to know.
Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic?
I've been looking at methods to do that in Mikrotik
problem, but it's a problem I keep getting asked about.
-- Original Message --
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up payi
-chewed Procera and then just buy the support
contract/license for it?
-- Original Message --
From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
You can't buy a
ug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
You can't buy a unit that was original purchased by one company, sell
it to another company and then they get a new license. Basically, if I
bought Gino's unit, I would have to pay him and he would pay
] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Is that because you didn’t have a service contract with them? Just curious …
or is it that their license is non transferable same as some other companies
(ie. Cisco)
> On Oct 6, 2
r it to another company either.
>
> Rory
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM
> To: af
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
>
> No we tried to reactivate a license
And they won't let you transfer it to another company either.
Rory
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
No we tried to reactivate a license on a unit we
ubject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Ballpark is 17k for one that caps out at a gig. 20% of the purchase price as a
yearly support contract (gives you 24x7 support, next day air hardware
replacement, and access to firmware and signature updates.)
On 10/6/2016 9:16 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
What's the
6, 2016 11:00:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would be talking.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I have
Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would be talking.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I have a base unit for sale , offf list for more details
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM
> To: af
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
>
> Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum to start.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gma
That's not bad. Barracuda costs more than that for a Gig.
Rory
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum
Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum to start.
- Original Message -
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:16:36 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs
What's the
Ballpark is 17k for one that caps out at a gig. 20% of the purchase
price as a yearly support contract (gives you 24x7 support, next day air
hardware replacement, and access to firmware and signature updates.)
On 10/6/2016 9:16 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
What's the lower end Procera appliance
What's the lower end Procera appliance cost? Are there recurring costs?
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