From: Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
It works...I guess if you are looking to manage it in their platform, that
might be difficult, but all you need is a pro
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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Trey Scarborough <t...@3dsc.co>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 12:21:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
So you have confirmed it works with ZTE then I am guessing by this response.
Good to know I h
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*Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 11:56 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
So, other ONTs will work? The beta store is sold out of the
Ubiquiti ONTs every time I check.
On Friday, March 31, 2017, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
hey might
> workish...
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 11:56 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>
> So, other ONTs will work? The beta store is sold out of the Ubiquiti ONTs
> every time I check.
>
>
I would not expect any random ONT to have full functionality. They might
workish...
From: Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
So, other ONTs will work? The beta store is sold out of the Ubiquiti ONTs every
time I check
e that's not the bottom price, but it's not too far out of whack
>>> either.
>>>
>>> Figure-8 is also wicked heavy. The spool weight will surprise you.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke
>>
>> Figure-8 is also wicked heavy. The spool weight will surprise you.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: 3/29/2017 1:01:4
com');>>
> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Sent: 3/29/2017 1:01:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>
> Yikes, I've bought 72 strand ADSS for
Some figure 8 has a solid stainless steel wire rather than the cable.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
1/4" steel cable + drop cable + jacketing
2+2 = 7
I'm sure that's not the bottom price, but it's no
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To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 3/29/2017 1:01:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Yikes, I've bought 72 strand ADSS for less than that.
On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
The most recent q
"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>>
> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.
Cown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
AM> To: af@afmug.com
AM> Sent: 3/27/2017 5:33:06 PM
AM> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>>Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON. If you had
>>16 or more in an area that could take a PON it was worth doing the PON.
&
The most recent quote I got was $0.83/ft.
It's way expensive, but no separate messenger strand.
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From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 3/29/2017 11:54:27 AM
Subject: Re:
.com
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> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Sent: 3/29/2017 11:35:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMU
Yeah Figure 8 is the best if you don’t lash. Make sure to put some twists in
it between poles otherwise it will dance in the wind and may destroy itself.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Figure-8 drop.
Flat
af@afmug.com>
Sent: 3/29/2017 11:35:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Were you figuring on doing this lashed or just the flat drop cable?
I've got a couple scenarios that I was looking at using 12ct flat drop,
but the only way I can think of to get it in the air is by using wedge
cl
The old telephone drop wire with P clamps was good for perhaps 300 feet spans
max.
From: Jason McKemie
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Were you figuring on doing this lashed or just the flat drop cable? I've got a
couple
s. I have
>> to give POTS that is battery backed up, legally required to do this.
>>
>> Cannot risk a 911 call not going through due to a power outage etc.
>> Cannot trust the customer to not unplug a UPS.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett
&g
is enough to buy a really nice bucket
truck.
-Adam
-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/27/2017 5:33:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON. If you had
16 or
The WAN side of an OLT is a L2/L3 switch; the PON side is the G.984 and/or
Active E portion of the technology.
From: Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small
OLT subscriber ranges can actually range to 512 (vs 256) per OLT or higher, or,
mix with XGS in the same shelf.
From: Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Put it this way, for each conn
March 27, 2017 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
I asked the Alphion sales rep about this. He says the optics are coded,
yes. As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT from another he
said in essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually tested across
vendors so whether
a 165 strand main splitter cable got cut, big emergency.
> More splicing cost if you don’t use remotes too.
>
> pros and cons
>
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 4:02 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>
> Switch
McCown
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
I actually do it both ways. Eagle Mountain, Utah is really two towns. The
older area in the South has all the optics in the C.O. and splitters out in the
residential cross boxes.
The Northern half
in the
Southern half.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Put it this way, for each connection on AE you have two SFP optics and a port
on a switch. You also probably want to battery back that.
For gpon you just push your 8
strand main splitter cable got cut, big emergency.
More splicing cost if you don’t use remotes too.
pros and cons
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Switches take cabinets and power. Splitters do not.
On Mar 27, 2017
cheap switch and SFPs.
>>> -or-
>>> You have an expensive OLT/OIM and splitter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 3:53 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Sc
gt; -or-
> You have an expensive OLT/OIM and splitter.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 3:53 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>
> AE requires a lot more electronics and optics. And fiber. And battery
>
>
>> At the remote cabinet, you either have a cheap switch and SFPs.
>> -or-
>> You have an expensive OLT/OIM and splitter.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 3:53 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [
.
> On GPON you battery back the OLT/OIM.
>
> At the remote cabinet, you either have a cheap switch and SFPs.
> -or-
> You have an expensive OLT/OIM and splitter.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 3:53 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *
.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
AE requires a lot more electronics and optics. And fiber. And battery backup.
Etc.
On Mar 27, 2017 4:33 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wro
ad to smaller/cheaper enclosures.
> Less junk at the head end too. I haven't gotten that far yet, but I
> was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON. You're saying maybe not?
>
>
>
> -- Original Message ------
> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.
.
-Original Message-
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Yeah, so PON vs AE was actually the next research project for me to
tackle.
It seems like there ought to be savings with PON because of lower fiber
count.lower
was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON. You're saying maybe not?
-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/27/2017 4:54:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
I would be worried that it will go the way of s
.
-Original Message-
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
WellI have to build with what's available today. If I delay to wait
for the next hot product, I'll always be waiting.
Besides, I honestly don't know what Ubiquiti
sage --
> From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>
>> With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies
having it just work.
-Adam
-- Original Message --
From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies
iginal Message --
From: fiber...@mail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with GPON.
Jared
--
Mitch Koep
A Better Wireless
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of chance.
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: fiber...@mail.com
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
> >
> >> No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with GPON.
> >>
> >> Jared
> >
>
On 3/27/17 11:52, Jon Langeler wrote:
With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait
That's the best laugh I've had all month.
-
> From: fiber...@mail.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>
>> No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with GPON.
>>
>> Jared
>
is going to be a matter of chance.
-- Original Message --
From: fiber...@mail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with GPON.
Jared
es it comes with the gpon sfps?
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck Hogg <
>>> ch...@shelbybb.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 11:41 AM
>>> To: &quo
.@shelbybb.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 11:41 AM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>>
>> Was/is on the UBNT beta store now...
ug.com');>>
> Date: Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 11:41 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
>
> Was/is on the UBN
ug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 11:41 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Was/is on the UBNT beta store now...
Regards,
Chuck
Gino Villarini
Pre
>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017
> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
> Interesting, are these open standards? Looks like they're sold out of the O
There is some vendor interoperability within the GPON market, which ZTE does
support based on customer requirements.
From: "fiber...@mail.com" <fiber...@mail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
No, ge
No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with GPON.
Jared
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017
From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Interesting, are
Interesting, are these open standards? Looks like they're sold out of the
ONT.
On Thursday, March 23, 2017, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> Was/is on the UBNT beta store now...
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
>
Was/is on the UBNT beta store now...
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> But when is this actually going to be available?
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017, Keefe John wrote:
>
>> How does it compare
ZTE's C320 is shipping now along with trials in work.
From: Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
But when is this actually going to be av
Compares quite well, and, the backplane provides scalability for XGS-PON if
interested.
From: Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
How does it compare to UBNT new uFiber OLT? 8-Por
But when is this actually going to be available?
On Wednesday, March 22, 2017, Keefe John wrote:
> How does it compare to UBNT new uFiber OLT?
>
> 8-Port GPON Optical Line Terminal
>
> 8 Gigabit Passive Optical Network Ports
> Supports up to 1024 Clients (128 per PON
How does it compare to UBNT new uFiber OLT?
8-Port GPON Optical Line Terminal
8 Gigabit Passive Optical Network Ports
Supports up to 1024 Clients (128 per PON Port)
Up to 2.488 Gbps TX and 1.244 Gbps RX
Supports up to 20 km GPON Links
Two 1G/10G SFP+ Ethernet Ports
Flexible Layer 2/3 Management
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