--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
wrote:
Sounds like they will make the deadline with the city.
Not all in the DRA for June 2007. That's only Hojo's. There's CH and
the Casino too.
I belive before you postedyour tour, you posted an atricle that the work had
stopped.
- Original Message
From: radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:57:21 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Whats the deal with Wesley Grove?
Woe,
It is completely possible to rehab the 1st floor in time for summer. With the
right people it could be done. This email is almost as good as Dan's MM
update. Should be saved and in 3 months reviewd.
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To:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It is completely possible to rehab the 1st floor in time for
summer. With the right people it could be done. This email is almost
as good as Dan's MM update. Should be saved and in 3 months reviewd.
Asbury hotel bought for $16M
Berkeley-Carteret to reopen shortly
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 02/28/07
BY NANCY SHIELDS
COASTAL MONMOUTH
BUREAU
Post Comment
ASBURY PARK New York real estate investors Joseph and Jacob Chetrit
bought the Berkeley-Carteret Oceanfront Hotel on Tuesday,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Asbury hotel bought for $16M
Berkeley-Carteret to reopen shortly
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 02/28/07
BY NANCY SHIELDS
COASTAL MONMOUTH
BUREAU
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BC-Hotel, built 1925,
Again All of You Check your information about how the program started, who
and why?
The program was made to help white students avoid coming to the Asbury Park
High School. Now I said it.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know it that's why it started, but Bradley Beach and others
took advandage of it big time. It's not like the AP BOE didn't try to
stop it. Maybe the commissioner knew what he was doing.
Again All of You Check your
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Don't you think the Waterfront Redevelopement plan had somethibg to
do with the price tag? If there was no plan it would have been
boarded up by now.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
Two Points:
1. At least the partners don't need to waste time getting permits.
ie: 1100 Ocean Ave. construction. If they do have valid permits, as
they say; why would they not be required to post them in public view?
2. Watch how much credence you put in the words of Terry Reidy. I
know that
I want to understand how you'd expect that the wrong people already
in charge would be in a position to somehow elicit the right people.
The right people will probably tell you (if they ever sign on) that
it's an unreaklistic time frame. But I'm sure they'll find someone to
say it's realistic;
I agree with you Toni, that it weas created to to avoid going to
Asbury Park High School. I have been saying for years, that it
should be stopped. The parents in those towns have the money to send
their kids to private schools. If they don't then they should move
to a district that they
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Strong leadership from the top down. I
had a meeting in the High School at 2:300 today. When I got there,
it looked like Bahgdad. There were kids all over the place, no
order, cursing at everyone. And guess
BC-Hotel, built 1925, Private Property = $16M
Convention Hall, built 1929, Public Property = $3.5M
Is something wrong with this picture?
Werner
One (Berkley) is an income producing property whose best use just might
not be a hotel.
The other, CH, will always have difficulty being
Pay me $400K a year and give me free reign. I'll be there 10 hours a
day and be on them like syrup on pancakes.
Dan, don't be so greedy. I'll split it with you. Add in all the perks
plus we can still our real jobs, what ever that is for the day.
Double dip, retirements, medical, vacation.
The program was made to help white students avoid coming to the
Asbury Park
High School. Now I said it.
Maybe you're right.
Maybe those parents who elected to send their kids somewhere else so
they might have an opportunity to learn. Greanted, those kids in AP
should have the same
The Berkeley's value is today. The deal has been just finalized. You are
comparing that to Convention Hall. The 3.5 million is from when?
- Original Message
From: wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:32:46 AM
Subject:
I wonder if that was the prostitute I saw yesterday, pulled over with
a John by sunset lake. 4 cop cars for 15 minutes, then I see them get
back in the car and drive away. I don't know how these things, go
down, like maybe just a summons could be issued in cases like this?
But It seemed
They knew what they were
getting (Ie: Allenhurst, Interlaken, Deal), when they moved in to
these towns.
MOST moved into to tohse towns because of the lower tax rate on the
school side KNOWING full well that their kids will be going to a
parochial school. The last kids that their asses
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyhow, Maureen, and many others, just can't wrap any support to MM
and
the way things are in AP today. Well, the MM deal is, as TG would
say
big;
It is big if it really happens, which I hope fervently. I am not sure
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we keep letting Judges pretend things are in the Constitution
that aren't there, eventually they will control everything and our
legislature nothing.
It's undemocratic and un-American to let judges do this.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If true, that's a big boost for the waterfront redevelopment and the
city, Deputy Mayor James Bruno said. I'm hoping they can work
together with Madison Marquette and Asbury Partners to bring the
north side of Convention
I don't think the one I saw was a prostitute. I think she's a resident
of the hotel across the street from where I live. She definitely
reeked of alcohol, and she was stumbling around like a mess. Probably
the same person who puked on my sidewalk.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
they should just but them out - then:
- knock down wesley grove and start over
- knock down the rest of crap lingering on cookman/mattison
- build the hotel in the entertainment district
- buy out metro homes
- pump some bucks into the west side
How come none of the new condos going up have
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
they should just but them out - then:
- knock down wesley grove and start over
- knock down the rest of crap lingering on cookman/mattison
- build the hotel in the entertainment district
- buy out metro homes
- pump
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More lot coverage = More density = More Profits
The Master Developer was in charge of the plan.
No one understood that providing appropriate set-backs, green space
and public amenities actually increases property
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How come none of the new condos going up have accounted for ANY green
space or setbacks from the sidewalks?
I am sure Werner will respond, but essentially - that was the Duany
plan. Urban feel to the streetscape. I think
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Check with Jimmy Bruno and John Moor they would be better to ask why those
programs were not kept in the high school.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube traderdube@ wrote:
If they now say the Casino will be done by the summer of 09 and DRA
says 2010. Wouldn't the DRA have to be change? If so maybe the HOJO's
will be
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you call the COPS?
I don't think the one I saw was a prostitute. I think she's a resident
of the hotel across the street from where I live. She definitely
reeked of alcohol, and she was stumbling around like a mess.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CAFRA has requirements for land coverage. The waterfront was
permitted
to have a higher coverage (I think approaching 90%) by counting in
the
coverage outside of the redevelopment zone, which is much lower and
will be
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's been done but it's NOT easy.
One other big Perk - you can never be fired as long as you are a
tenured
Teacher, Administrator or any other tenured employee.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CAFRA is not the reason for the density. Bad planning is the cause.
They exceeded the CAFRA standards by not confering with them through
the planning process.
You have to learn to read my friend. I did not say CAFRA
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If they now say the Casino will be done by the summer of 09 and
DRA
says 2010. Wouldn't the DRA have to be change? If so maybe the HOJO's
will be change. I hear they will have all Pavillions done by 2010. If
that's true all
Unfortunately, Asbury Park is everything to everyone in the media.
Then you get here; .and his eyes, they roll over white. Then
there's the high pitched screamin'. And despite all the poundin' and
the hollerin', the hollerin' and the poundin', they all come in and
tear ya to pieces
Remember this. It's the administrators, and sometimes non tenured
ones, that give the teachers tenure. If there was a problem with a
particular satff member, they should have been dealt with before they
got tenure. I don't hire and I don't fire. I have a role as an
advocate for all the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@
wrote:
CAFRA is not the reason for the density. Bad planning is the
cause.
They exceeded the CAFRA standards by not confering with them
through
the
It all boils down to DISCIPLINE AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
Despite the way I feel about whats going on now, AP
School system is NOT A LOST CAUSE. We still have
people that care about the AP school system.
Something
has to be done and it has to be done now. The
solution
is not closing the school,
How are their test scores compared to the rest.
That is why to continue what you have done/are doing with the kids
is to keep them from going to AP HIGH until the problems are fixed.
Now from all the talk about sending district(bleamr, etc) kids out,
an ap resident should be able to use the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Check with Jimmy Bruno and John Moor they would be better to ask why
those
programs were not kept in the high school.
sorry tony, but your wrong those classes were up and running long after
moore and bruno, for all i know you
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deal School itself takes kids from towns and is run as a public-
private school. We talked about this before.
they do not take kids from long branch becuase long branch took them
to court and stopped it
The first championship cat show in Asbury Park in 25 years, will happen this
weekend, March 3 and 4 at the Convention Hall. The Cat Fanciers' Associated
(CFA) sponsored show will be open to the public from 10:00 AM and 4:00 PM.
Several hundred pedigreed and household pets are expected to be
Maybe they got this increase because of all the AP district students
they have?
RED BANK The calendars said the borough Board of Education was
going to vote Tuesday night on a preliminary budget for the next
school year, but that didn't happen for a very good and welcome
reason.
An
so with the hotel now sold, what happens with the closed street just north of
it? you said the hotel wants to buy additional property for the hotel. did
they mention where? im guessing a parking garage of some sort?
charlie
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8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a
nope.
Red Bank has it's own share of problems hidden around corners.
You have Red Bank Regional and Borough of Red Bank BOE.
The RBR Board of Education is composed of nine citizens elected from
our constituent districts. Representatives are elected on the basis
of constituent population - two
My dates my be off by a year or two as per one of the teachers that
left in 2005. Lordi left the district in 2002 or 2003. He did wood
shop. At the same time, Glenn Koll was teaching auot, graphic and
wood shop. When Lordi left, the auto shop was closed down and Koll
was moved to wood shop
I didn't mean to imply they remove the programs, I was on the board with
them and I don't remember why they were removed. I thought maybe they would
know. There were a lot of programs stopped golf, tennis, etc.
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Thank you for this info Michael! What a delightful and stressfree
way to spend a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. :)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The first championship cat show in Asbury Park in 25 years, will
happen this weekend, March 3 and 4
I feel sorry for the students in Asbury Park until we can all get back to
educating the student then this kind of mess will continue. No matter how
much
money is spent on a student if the education process is flawed there will be
no educating. I feel very badly that the time I spent on
Porn at the Baronet? I must be old, because my kids, saw The Bad
News Bears, there. Had to be the 70's. I'm with Tommy on closing
the High School. Give the kids a voucher, let them dhoose a school
and get the hell out Dodge City! Taking the hint and just letting the
poster, that I am
In 1978, I saw my first porn movie at the Baronet. I was scared S-less to go in
there, and
creeped out by the other people in there.
It was probaby a rite of passage for many...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Porn at the Baronet? I must be old, because my
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube traderdube@ wrote:
Please do me two favors, explain what your referring to RBR
RBR is short for Red Bank Regional, where the white kids that are
supposed to be in
I knew it had to be somthing!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again All of You Check your information about how the program
started, who
and why?
The program was made to help white students avoid coming to the
Asbury Park
High School. Now I said it.
Allen -
That is not my recollection. But if you can point it out to me I'll stand
corrected. It would certainly run counter to reason. The reason I went to
interview Wesley Grove was to check out the rumor that it had stopped.
Maureen
BTW, I don't want to give the impression to anyone reading
Easy Werner.
I tried to make the same point this morning and got screamed at about how
this town has stood still for 20 years and at least it's better than nothing,
and
yada yada. Doesn't anyone understand that we're saying if the BC could get
fair value, why shouldn't everyone else? The
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