--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More than a few parallels with Asbury Park, and some food for
thought, here:
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Here's and interesting Non-Parallel:
...the city, which adopted a Bayside
No shelters for the homeless in AP? Get real.
All of the Federally subsidized housing (Lincoln Village, etc)
houses people who have no home.
Why are we forgetting Section 8? I can show you examples of them
paying as much as $1,800.00 monthly (more than many peoples'
mortgages). That is
perhaps it was just a little 5.25 million dollar project?
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More than a few parallels with Asbury Park, and some food for
thought, here:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
perhaps it was just a little 5.25 million dollar project?
Actually it was. It would have fit on Springwood Ave nicely.
Probably the size of the Wesley Grove project but
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
he's a fake, a lier, and an ex con
Jimmy Bruno has done is fair share in Asbury Park:
{1} Deputy Mayor.
{2} Retired Fireman.
{3} Gave a Key to a SSG Craft a solider wounded in Iraq.
Checking into Portland's redevelopment I came across this piece that
reminded me of the Bikeway issues here in Asbury Park. Deals
with 'rights-of-way' alternative transportation, etc.
Development, History, Politics, Tourism - all rolled together.
It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a difficult
issue. A lane with a 5 MPH limit. Period. For youths and Spandex clad
racers alike. Period. Outside of these parameters, your asked to
leave, warned, fined, whatever. Period. Simple? Simple to me, but
maybe I'm the simple
No shelters for the homeless in AP? Get real.
All of the Federally subsidized housing (Lincoln Village, etc)
houses people who have no home.
Why are we forgetting Section 8? I can show you examples of them
paying as much as $1,800.00 monthly (more than many peoples'
mortgages).
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a difficult
issue. A lane with a 5 MPH limit. Period. For youths and Spandex
clad...
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As much as
In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately, people don't
play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and cause much anxiety for those
walking on the boardwalk.
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Boy, from your comment, it sounds like you think that bike rentals
were a good thing. So you are telling me that 30 years later, they
had the chance to bring a good thing back and blew it? Funny that,
the only time that you and I interacted in the real world, you
thought I should be informing
selective enforcement is the norm anyway
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler robert@
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It's like we had mutually agreed, It didn't need to be a
difficult
issue. A lane with a 5 MPH limit.
That's why there is enforcement which we all agree is there in the
season anyway, selectively enforcing
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately,
people don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately, people
don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and cause much
anxiety for those walking on the boardwalk.
The limited hours for bike riding were fine,
Regarding me having should have hung out, feel free to see the new
words of wisdom I added to my website; to see the reasons, that in
retrospect, my flight is a blessing in disguise. I was not in my
space long before I learned to keep one eye over my shoulder at all
times. So I respect any
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Had he hung out, AND had a bike lane been put on Ocean, it would
have
been amenable. There should be a bike lane from town to town along
the
ocean street.
=
Which goes to
And as a side note, Asbury Partners, LLC would have, and in fact did,
tell me anything I wanted to hear; to get me to be the first to sign
a lease. And so my playing pawn to politics here began. Did not the
developer, or the city, or the C of C have any moral or ethical
responsibility to
What the real problem was that they no
longer allowed him to rent his surries. Those can't go fast and they
should have been allowed at all times, perhaps in a special lane.
So surries would be allowed in a special lane but not bikes? What you suggest
is that the boardwalk cater to the
and why hang out and wait for potential business, when viable
business is to be had NOW outside asbury?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, firemer@ wrote:
In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately,
And what? It shouldn't? Have you been down there in the last twenty
years? They sould be paying merchants to do anything up there. Stay
on Cookman!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What the real problem was that they no
longer allowed him to rent
And may competent and progressive cities utilize commercial bike
lanes. Hey, if you don't want progress, keep chasing businesses out.
Everyone around here is on your side until the check clears.
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What the real problem
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Regarding me having should have hung out, feel free to see the new
words of wisdom I added to my website; to see the reasons, that in
retrospect, my flight is a blessing in disguise.
I am not finding fault with
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Which goes to my original reason for refering to the Portland
article.
It's an issue of planning. Not just locally, but on a regional
level.
Asbury Park is cursed with myopic thinking, tunnel vision, not
being
I'm not criticizing you. Believe me, I have faults! The difference
between myself and the opposition, is that I CAN ADMIT IT
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler robert@
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Regarding me having
That's why it makes no sense that Reidy came to me so sure that a
lane was imminent. Was I set up?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@
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Which goes to my original reason for refering to the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So surries would be allowed in a special lane but not bikes? What
you suggest is that the boardwalk cater to the business.
Isn't that the idea? Should we screw them? Cater buisnesses that cater
to the public, so
Exactly. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone that came in my shop that
I didn't exhibit some form of goodwill to. Not to mention thousands of
dollars worth of donations to charities within city limits. To all of
those who see this a a black and white issue of ordinance vs. common
sense, and
And, I respectfully disagree. I think that if you want to ride your
bike on the boards; enjoy the scenery, the air, and the (illegally in
AP) scantilly clad people, you need to concede that everyone needs to
be safe. And I understand why peoiple feel threatened by bikes. If
you want to do
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Answer this question. Why didn't you go before the ENTIRE COUNCIL
when they had the hearing on extending the time of riding on the BW?
That was the time to tell the world of the Reidy and Kinmon promise
and
...Speed bumps.
I went right through AP on my bike (on boards) to Belmar for the
bikinis.
Exercise, I told her.
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In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately, people
don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and cause much
anxiety for those walking on the boardwalk.
I tend to disagree with this. I think there are many responsible
cyclists, but on the other hand, I don't think
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At the same time you can teach the people not to jwalk and litter too.
Lot's of Luck.
In theory you are correct, a 5 MPH limit. But, unfortunately,
people
don't play by the rules. Most will speed recklessly and cause
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So what's your point?
When you see somebody littering, what do you do? Ignore it like most
people.
I don't.
It amazes me how many people in AP just throw their trash on the
ground. People of all ages, from all walks of life. Why does it happen
so much here, but not in the surrounding towns?
I also
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is people were taught not to litter or jwalk and they still
do it. The sane will go for bike safety. It all starts at home and it
seems like the home just don't care. It will have to take a tragic
death for people to
I'll tell you the same thing I told everyone else regarding going to
counsel meetings. First, I spent a carrer going to useless (to/for
me) meetings. Second, I felt that as a newcomer, and a bike shop
owner that my opinion would not hold any water; seemingly only to
serve my business. I TOLD
Do schools still teach bike safety?
When I was a kid growing up in Eatontown, we had bike safety classes
both in school as well as one sponsored by the police dept. After the
PD course, you got a certificate and a permit.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In
We alredy had a trgic death of James Morrison at the deep; Is the
city going to actually start communicating with merchants now? Is it
going to take a tragic death of an expendable boardwalk merchant to
have the city EFFECTIVELY patrol it's boardwalk?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I didn't know he was riding a bike on Main St. thanks for the info.
We alredy had a trgic death of James Morrison at the deep; Is the
city going to actually start communicating with merchants now? Is
it
going
The city is already putting enforcers up there in-season, ANYWAY!
Can't we agree that if they pay attention to the boardwalk, as
opposed to it's female merchants, that they only enforce when it's
necessary? They are selectively enforcing it anyway, with no stable
criteria for doing so.
--- In
Leave the police out of it, we can't even get them to police
effectively, never mind teach bike safety. Just strolled 1 Block of
the boardwalk. Saw (and photographed) two brand new examples of
grafitti, a homemade crack pipe on Confetti's counter, a used condom
on the boards in front of
I didn't realize people weren't littering or J-walking on Ocean Ave.
It is I who should apologize.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler robert@
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I didn't know he was riding a bike on Main St. thanks
Oh, and didn't realize that suddenly the bike issue we've been
arguing about for weeks suddenly shifted to main st. Should I have
opened on Main, where there is significantly more risk of cycling
accidents?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Dammit, can't you people keep up?
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I don't think that the things you've mentioned have anything at all to
do with the AP PD. Personally, I think they do a great job, there's
just not enough of them.
The graffitti and used condom are typical of AP. The other day, I
found a used condom on my lawn. Disgusting. I am so fricken sick of
So we agree that for reasons not necessarily attributed to individual
officers, that they do not police effectively? It should be noted
that I was not attacking anyone in particular; and that when I called
them from the boardwalk 3-7 times a week, they had very good response
times.
--- In
Our municipal judge, Mark Apostolou, is due to be reappointed by the
city council within a few weeks. I have never been too impressed by
this judge's performance and I personally believe that Asbury Park
can do better.
Judge Apostolou works for seven other cities in the region and rakes
in
If they appoint me Judge, I will have to give up my column in the
triCityNews. All in favor say I. ;-)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, paulvail1964 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our municipal judge, Mark Apostolou, is due to be reappointed by
the
city council within a few weeks. I have
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Don't forget Workmens Comp
If they appoint me Judge, I will have to give up my column in the
triCityNews. All in favor say I. ;-)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, paulvail1964 vailpj@ wrote:
Our
I've noticed that towns that have a greater concentration of trash cans also
have less litter on the ground. If more of the businesses had a trash can
outside of their stores, maybe more people would get the message. It would
also require less effort on people who wish to get rid of litter if
hey rev
you could be his first case, thats if they ever find the body...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds more like an afternoon 30 minutes on channel 23.
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just tell us already rev, what elections did you win, and what
elections did you lose? you my friend are a lier
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I won't touch that, it's too easy.
Sounds more like an afternoon 30 minutes on channel 23.
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get over it already, your business failed...MOVE ON...you have hundreds
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've noticed that towns that have a greater concentration of trash
cans also have less litter on the ground.
Whose going to teach kids to throw the trash in the can?
I had some involvement in a property on the west side - we had a
What's a VACTION?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
get over it already, your business failed...MOVE ON...you have hundreds
of post here in the last few weeks...YOU NEED A VACTION
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You mean I'm full of more hot air than you?
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get over it already, your business failed...MOVE ON...you have
hundreds
of post here in the last few weeks...YOU NEED A VACTION
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He's just upset because he doesn't understand the big words.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's a VACTION?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover rolemover@ wrote:
get over it already, your business failed...MOVE ON...you have
hundreds
of
oh and your a brain surgen hingy...dude you need a life too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's a VACTION?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover rolemover@ wrote:
get over it already, your business failed...MOVE ON...you have
hundreds
of post
i havn't followed this bike topic. whats going on? in a short version!
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I came with best of intentions. Lost alot of money due to political
ineptitude, left. Became target of rolemover's nonsense
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i havn't followed this bike topic. whats going on? in a short
version!
Asbury Park man sentenced on federal drug charges
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 03/5/07
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TRENTON U.S. District Judge Garrett E. Brown, Jr., today sentenced
Dyshaun Moss, 26, of Asbury Park, to 14 years in prison, and ordered
him to pay a $2,500 fine for his guilty plea to
Fair Haven councilman drops out of 12th District Assembly race
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 03/5/07
BY LARRY HIGGS
COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU
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FAIR HAVEN Borough Councilman Thomas Gilmour has dropped out of the
12th District Assembly race.
Gilmour made the announcement in a
Mario,
I read the entire piece! AP, can take a hint from Portland!
Thanks!
S
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More than a few parallels with Asbury Park, and some food for
thought, here:
Real Estate, NYT, March 4, 2007
National Perspectives: _A
Well I guess you all like my column so very much! Thanks for the
support! I'll keep writing then!
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If they appoint me Judge, I will have to give up my column in the
triCityNews. All in favor say I. ;-)
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Senate stalls bill to sell off surplus land
Critics fault bidding process
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 03/5/07
BY MICHAEL RISPOLI
GANNETT STATE BUREAU
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TRENTON Lost in the shuffle of budget talk and subpoenas, a
seemingly inconspicuous bill authorizing the sale of surplus
It's like a dream, Werner! Thanks, I enjoy reading articles, that
have a positive outcome!
S
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Checking into Portland's redevelopment I came across this piece that
reminded me of the Bikeway issues here in Asbury Park.
a few of the new benches were installed on cookman. i posted a picture
in a new section on the photo section for those that cant see in person.
charlie
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Hello sharon,
Regarding your comment:
I read the entire piece! AP, can take a hint from Portland! Thanks!
You're welcome. I think the excerpts I choose mislead some folks into
thinking I was promoting Whole Foods Markets and such (I'm more of a
Balducci's
type guy, back when
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