I bet he wants DBT proof
From Digg, this link:
http://tinyurl.com/2ncuhd
James Randi Offers $1 Million If Audiophiles Can Prove $7250 Speaker
Cables Are Better.
A rant about those $7,250 Pear Anjou speaker cables found its way to the
James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF), and Randi
Pat Farrell;231962 Wrote:
I bet he wants DBT proof
From Digg, this link:
http://tinyurl.com/2ncuhd
James Randi Offers $1 Million If Audiophiles Can Prove $7250 Speaker
Cables Are Better.
I saw a video talk by James Randi. He is amazingly cool. One of the
situations he talked
Now why would you want to believe some one who's business is to dupe
you, ie an illusionist ?
The last time I bothered to check ...the small print and exceptions
would make it more than impossible to show sound changes between cable.
Let alone things like amps or cdp.
I can easily test two
I use auralex mopad under my speakers rather than the suplied feet or
spikes or other feet I've tried.. these allow the floorstander to be
isolated from the floor. The effect is very pleasing in my system and
domestic situation.
I've heard the effect of platfoam too ...but not any of the room
test your room by claping once and listen to the decay ...much easier
and less damaging.
I'll second the denson and I've the xlo disc thats relatively safe if
you follow the instructions.
--
zanash
Acoustician and builder of interesting cables
zanash;231990 Wrote:
Now why would you want to believe some one who's business is to dupe
you, ie an illusionist ?
Give me a break. The guy is probably the best known scientific skeptic
in the USA as of the last 30 years, has written several books on the
subject, was awarded a MacArthur
esbrewer;231946 Wrote:
I checked the pspoints file, and it is indeed set to the bk-3-spline
target. I have no explanation as to why DRC is allowing the HF
increase to remain. It is my understanding that the HFs are rolled off
to varying degrees in the bk target files. I've been reading
rexflexall;231771 Wrote:
In response to the wireless or wired issue, Linn wanted reliablility in
their products and did not wish to struggle with a clients wireless
environment.
I may ridicule some of Linn's pronouncements from time to time, but in
this case I think they have a point.
amey01;231928 Wrote:
I know you're disagreeing with me here, but I agree with you also. There
can be placebo effect also. There is just so much we don't understand
about sound. But really, frequencies in the inaudiable band can affect
the way frequencies in the audiable band sound.
Which is
Phil Leigh;231727 Wrote:
I'm a Linn devotee (sort of - I love their active speakers and I am
devoted to my 5103)...
Phil, from your postings here you appear to be that very rare animal -
a Linn devotee with a sense of proportion (and a sense of humour). Most
Linn afficionados get rather tetchy
James Randi has offered million-dollar prizes in several other fields as
well. To date he has never awarded any money, although he has had
claimants.
Gee, the test conditions don't seem to be that stringent:
http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html
The money does indeed exist, held by a
his business is as an illusionist ..that says it all
I don't consider myself to have golden ears...there the same fleshy
colour as everyone elses.
More to the point why don't you think cables can make a difference ?
if you were to get a cable of a slightly higher resistance will that
zanash;232067 Wrote:
More to the point why don't you think cables can make a difference ?
Of course cables make a difference, but is there a difference between
expensive cables and horribly expensive cables? And can those
differences be measured or detected
--
funkstar
tonyptony;232034 Wrote:
Hmm, possible. I assume you're using an ecm8000 mic correction file?
I wonder if you take a new Sweep w/EQ capture, using one of the
corrections that you've shown us here, whether you'd get a similar
actual response.
I believe all of my .drc files refer to the
Deaf Cat;231881 Wrote:
Hi Phil,
Do you find after playing it, you actually hear a difference ?
Hard to say...if you stay in the room while it is playing it seems to
rewire your brain (reminds me of early Hawkwind...)
I generally fire up the FLAC every month just to (allegedly) demag the
inguz;231580 Wrote:
of course there's a name for that time interval.
ohnosecond ;-)
ohnosecondwell done! It had me and my co-worker chuckling in the
lab over lunch! might use that one if you don't mind.
--
sfraser
2 Chan. System
SB3-Benchmark DAC-1- Bryston(BP-25,3B)-PMC TB2
Home
cliveb;232037 Wrote:
Phil, from your postings here you appear to be that very rare animal - a
Linn devotee with a sense of proportion (and a sense of humour). Most
Linn afficionados get rather tetchy when the infallibility of Ivor and
his products is questioned. I applaud your down-to-earth
Greetings all. New SB user here, should have done this a lng time
ago. My question is in regard to an upgraded power supply I just
purchased and am using. Bought at Hosfelt Electronics, regulated 5V
1.5amp puppy, I bought a DC plug, checked polarity..soldered correctly
and seems to function
Phil Leigh;232089 Wrote:
I've done the whole LP12 bit but had to get out before I went bankrupt!
I did go through the Linn/Naim phase a long time ago. I still have the
LP12/Lingo/Ittok/Karma. If I was in the market for a turntable today,
the LP12 wouldn't be on the shortlist, but it does the
I can just vouch for the mopads, under my mains, and the subdude, under
my sub. I was having lots of extra vibes and rattling going on and for
as inexpensive as these items were, they work awesome. Good clean bass,
really cut down on the window rattles...except for the occasional
explosion or
Thing is, my whole system is active (6x2-channel amps - 3 front, 1
centre, 2 rear) ...could get rather expensive...
I only have the one large living room and can't seperate my AV and
stereo. Actually, I don't want to. Movies sound GREAT!
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE
Phil Leigh;232102 Wrote:
Thing is, my whole system is active (6x2-channel amps - 3 front, 1
centre, 2 rear) ...could get rather expensive...
Compared to the cost of a full active Linn (or Naim) setup, ATCs are
actually pretty cheap. (And they sound better, of course :-).
--
cliveb
Yes, the SB runs warm. It is normal. If the supply provides 5V it
should not harm the unit or cause any other problems.
TD
--
tyler_durden
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Thank you so much, I appreciate it
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funkstar;232069 Wrote:
Of course cables make a difference, but is there a difference between
expensive cables and horribly expensive cables? And can those
differences be measured or detected
I'm sure many think there are. Proving it though is the million dollar
question.
The standard
zanash;231993 Wrote:
test your room by claping once and listen to the decay ...much easier
and less damaging.
No need at the mo, its terrible :o , or if you like echos its Fab, I
need a rug, book shelves, drape things etc... all in the plan :) Safe
is good :D
Phil Leigh;232086 Wrote:
Ah yes but does he have the golden ears all the audiophiles have?
Probably not. He's getting on in years, his HF hearing probably isn't
perfect.
A million dollars does buy a lot of stuff, even Pear Anjou cables.
--
Mark Lanctot
'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!'
Everyone knows the Pear Bartlett, Comice and Bosc blow the Anjous out of
the water!
--
Videodrome
Two-channel System:
SB3 - Behringer SRC2496 - Musiland MD-10 DAC;
Outlaw 970 Pre/Pro;
McCormack DNA-125 amplifier;
Quad 11L speakers;
Sota Sapphire ttbl. w/ Grado Ref. Platinum Cartridge - Rolls
i noticed mine was happening everytime I turned it on and tried to
access the Music Folder. Guessing it was a network issue regarding
access to my ever growing collection I thought there was nothing
anybody could do. However, the latest version of SS (or should i say SC
now) has stopped this
MikeFish;232147 Wrote:
i noticed mine was happening everytime I turned it on and tried to
access the Music Folder. Guessing it was a network issue regarding
access to my ever growing collection I thought there was nothing
anybody could do. However, the latest version of SS (or should i say
Has anyone ordered one yet?
If so, let it know how it looks, sounds, etc.
Thanks
--
USAudio
SB3 - PS Audio Digital Link III - PS Audio Trio C-100 - Revel
Concerta F12's / SVS SB12-Plus
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CraigStevenson;232153 Wrote:
Hopefully, this thread will be brought to the attention of somebody
at Slim/Logitech, and this will be investigated further
Hi Craig,
Unless the issue has been reported though the proper channels then it
will not be assigned to anyone to fix, that is why
The latest nightly builds (for the last 3 or 4 weeks) uses FW32 for the
Transporter. This has only been modified for better sync'ing (I think)
from FW31 which has been used since about 6.5.4.
Just to reitterate, SS7 was using FW31 until a few weeks ago, but is
now on FW32.
--
MikeFish
Greg Erskine;232159 Wrote:
Hi Craig,
Unless the issue has been reported though the proper channels then it
will not be assigned to anyone to fix, that is why I asked earlier if
anyone has logged the problem.
I the past when I logged problems I was told not to do so until I
loaded the
CraigStevenson;232162 Wrote:
I just logged a report through the proper channels. I did reference
this thread. Hopefully, somebody will contact us here, and see what
the common factors are.
Excellent !
--
Greg Erskine
I just got done installing the October 2 build of SqueezeCenter 7.0 for
testing. Although it is still early, after about 10-15 minutes, I could
not reproduce the issues that I reported earlier, when using 6.5.4.
There were a couple of times when I noticed a brief hesitation, but
nothing
Now why would you want to believe some one who's business is to dupe
you, ie an illusionist ?
You mean like people that make $7250 speaker cables? ;-)
--
Kurt
Main Entry: au·dio·phile
Pronunciation: 'o-dE-O-fI(-)l
Function: noun
: a person who takes the pursuit of high-fidelity sound
CraigStevenson;232177 Wrote:
I can't get over the improvement. Wow! (Again...)
No offense to you or any of the hardworking chaps that are busy trying
to improve the can of worms that is now called Squeezecenter
It still stinks to high heaven.
.
--
haunyack
Transporter - BK R200.2 -
earthbased;232035 Wrote:
If someone just spent $10K on a tone arm, he is going to have a big
inducement to think it improved the sound. Ditto for $500/ft cable.
Absolutely!
But there is just so much that science and DBT tests (which have been
proven inaccurate) can't explain.
If you
zanash;232067 Wrote:
his business is as an illusionist ..that says it all
It does? What does it say? Can you give us an actual _logical_ argument
why it follows from the fact that he worked as a magician that he is in
some way duplicitous in his attack on this aspect of audiophilia?
zanash;231990 Wrote:
Now why would you want to believe some one who's business is to dupe
you, ie an illusionist ?
You mean like you , Zanash? After all, you are a cable maker.
--
tomjtx
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amey01;231928 Wrote:
I know you're disagreeing with me here, but I agree with you also. There
can be placebo effect also. There is just so much we don't understand
about sound. But really, frequencies in the inaudiable band can affect
the way frequencies in the audiable band sound.
Can you
SatoriGFX;231314 Wrote:
There are scads of people who deny that power cords make a difference.
There are scads of people who say that any cable (power, speaker or
otherwise) that sounds different or better must be altering the
signal in some way and is not fathfull to the recording.
I
amey01;232189 Wrote:
Absolutely!
But there is just so much that science and DBT tests (which have been
proven inaccurate) can't explain.
If you enjoy it then go for it (placebo or not), but just remember that
we are not at the pinnacle of reproduced sound quality yet - recordings
opaqueice;232198 Wrote:
I don't get your point. If changing the power cable makes a difference
it means something bizarre is going on with whatever it's plugged into.
At that point an audio objectivist would be worried, not conclude that
the new cable must have added a coloration and should
SatoriGFX;232204 Wrote:
And if the cable really does sound different it must contain some sort
of filter or be acting as some sort of filter that is altering the
signal (not adding anything but removing something). That's a bad
thing. I don't want cables to color my sound I want them to
opaqueice;232195 Wrote:
However the situations in which they are audible are typically very
extreme (like 30 feet of 24 gauge zip cord compared to decent cables),
and even in those extreme cases level matching makes it MUCH harder to
hear the differences.
OK... so which ones sound better?
When I set up my listening room, I read as many articles as I could on
whether power and cables make an impact on fidelity. It was impossible
to determine which camp was right as both seemed to assert their
perspective. When I finally listened and made my own comparisons, I
was shocked at the
Good, good...but the question was, do you want to make a million
dollars?
If anyone actually bothered to look at the challenge conditions, they
have nothing to do with the fact that Randi is an illusionist at all.
All he has done is ensure that a set of circumstances exist where -he-
can't be
opaqueice wrote:
cables can make. And yes, they are real, and yes, they are sometimes
audible. However the situations in which they are audible are
typically very extreme (like 30 feet of 24 gauge zip cord compared to
decent cables), and even in those extreme cases level matching makes it
Ron F.;231186 Wrote:
...If the UK cables have a core at the end, then the US cables ought to
as well and if they don't - an explanation is in order.
-Ron
The US supplies don't have a core at the end. They don't need one to
pass regulatory compliance where the UK supply does. Simple as
There seems to be a lot of info here on ripping DVD Audio with a WinDVD
hack but I can't find anything about burning one of these files, FLAC
24bit 44.1kHz, to DVD-Audio.
Any one care to give a brief synopsis of what authoring software they
are using. I'm assuming that the file first needs to be
gdg;231400 Wrote:
If they both sound the same when they are both connected in your setup
then the Toslink is probably better. The big advantage of Tos with the
Squeezebox is that it isolates downstream components from the noise the
SB produces. Since you have both connected even when the
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