Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-28 Thread acousticsguru
Phil Leigh;230824 Wrote: hmmm...so it is possible - thanks! 11.2896MHz superclock from db System only, no other choice. Cost of this modification 250 Euros (ca. 356 USD) - somewhat exorbitant. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-28 Thread acousticsguru
dCS recommends slaving the source to the DAC or an external masterclock. As someone said before, correcting an error is inferior to avoiding it. A notion with which I tend to agree. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-28 Thread acousticsguru
Phil Leigh;230874 Wrote: If jitter-bugging isn't the theme of this thread then what is it? Depends on how you're using the term: the avoidance of jitter, in my terminology, is not the same as the cleaning up of a jittery signal. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-28 Thread acousticsguru
CPC;230884 Wrote: Who's going to do the clock mod on your SB? That's what I'd like to know, too. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-28 Thread acousticsguru
the terminology this side of the ocean. No one claims there's no jitter to begin with. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38637

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
resolution capability, and all that at little or no extra cost. If that were available, I obviously wouldn't complain either. ;^) Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
one should try to improve the SB's output stage, DAC, or power supply. No disagreement. But that kind of product Slim Devices is already offering: the Transporter. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
input of these products... (sigh!) Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
yesterday need (= people who already have a stereo including CD-transport and DAC, but want in an audio server/streaming client in addition): something to replace their transport with. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
!). Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38637

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
and/or overkill if you have a DAC with wordclock in- and output (the Pacecar probably being most interesting to people who insist on I2S). In all this, don't forget: it's on/next to the DAC board that the WC should be placed (physically!). Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
applications, where either the DAC's or an external clock is the master, and has been since - goodness, don't even remember - since there is digital audio? Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
Phil Leigh;230519 Wrote: IF that is what you mean, then can someone advise as to how to get wordclock fitted (modded) to my SB, TACT and DAC? Now we're talking! Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-27 Thread acousticsguru
switching for audiophiles who already have a digital processor they're in love with and you might have a product that offered all things to all comers. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
the same, but are gradually loosing relevance. Greetings from David, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
no one's gone down the studio application/synchronisation of multiple units path, secretly assuming, like I do, that both Squeezebox and Transporter are pieces of consumer electronics). Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
not be, but first hand experience. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
in question. Which doesn't mean I don't believe what you say may be the case with some DACs. As mentioned before, I've even seen measurement of ones with incorrect impedance, for both AES/EBU and S/PDIF inputs. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
to be for some other reason. I don't quite understand: is the Benchmark any more modern than the latest versions of dCS Delius and Elgar, Madrigal No. 36, No. 36S and No. 30.6, let alone offers jitter rejection on a higher level? Greetings from Switzerland -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
, are attracted Slim Devices products because one doesn't need to be a dedicated PC hacker to use them, have to pay 1700 USD more to get a WC input (and, if needed, AES/EBU)? A Squeezebox with WC input would do just fine. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38637

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
ezkcdude;230113 Wrote: Because there aren't enough of you guys? As valid an assumption as any, I'm afraid. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
betto;230120 Wrote: Fully agreed. Wouldn't swear on it as (proven) fact, but tend to think so, too. But then, what do I know, right? Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
input and the relevant digital outputs) might already be a reality. Needless to say, this is where I started this thread from: reading through forums here and elsewhere, I got the impression I'm not alone in wanting this. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-26 Thread acousticsguru
ezkcdude;230220 Wrote: It also makes one question the marketing claims. Excuse my cynicism, but is anyone buying into those anyway? (And Nagra, in my experience, isn't more prone to making extravagant claims than any other manufacturer.) Greetings from Switzerland, David -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-25 Thread acousticsguru
, thus may be excused for being self-delusioned. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-25 Thread acousticsguru
audiophile reviews, and you'll find that audiophiles, even otherwise respectable ones, more often than not seem obsessed with finding change to always have to be for better -or- worse. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-25 Thread acousticsguru
to say, right? So, what about taking that possibility into consideration, that you might indeed hear what I (and others) hear? Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-25 Thread acousticsguru
seem to have missed any implication that you know of a/the reason. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-25 Thread acousticsguru
, and ere I forget, let me remind us all, myself in particular, of the obvious: what does all of the above prove? Nothing! Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-25 Thread acousticsguru
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-24 Thread acousticsguru
these (and other forums') pages that if fairly priced it would sell like hotcakes? Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-24 Thread acousticsguru
like hotcakes? Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38637

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-24 Thread acousticsguru
' systems sounded better tapping its AES/EBU output, sometimes only subtly, usually clearly so. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-24 Thread acousticsguru
, much less an expert on jitter or jitter-bug technology, *nor expressed any wish to discuss it, let alone get attacked* for stating the obvious! Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-24 Thread acousticsguru
Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38637

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-24 Thread acousticsguru
proved my point: jitter alone won't explain sonic differences. Ball's back in your yard. Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezbox with Word Clock in, AES/EBU etc.?

2007-09-24 Thread acousticsguru
goes wrong (if indeed anything goes wrong) is due to the format, the cables or, as you essentially appear to be alluding to, the DAC's PLL? But then, whatever bothers a DAC's PLL cannot be entirely the PLL's fault, right? Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 + high end DAC versus high end CD Player?

2007-09-23 Thread acousticsguru
reeve_mike;115330 Wrote: the SB path is modified to include a word clock input I consider using a Squeezebox with my dCS Purcell/Delius combo myself, thus am curious to learn: how can the SB be modded so it has a word clock input? Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Word clock specifications?

2007-09-23 Thread acousticsguru
or the DAC's masterclock (such as if used to feed AES/EBU into a dCS converter)? Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using the Word Clock function on Transporter

2007-09-23 Thread acousticsguru
would be curious to hear. AES/EBU output and word clock input are the only reason I'm considering the Transporter at all (no use for its in-built DAC). Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Wadia 27i

2007-09-23 Thread acousticsguru
- will that feature make enough of a difference to justify doing so? Greetings from Switzerland, David. -- acousticsguru acousticsguru's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13298 View this thread: http