Phil Leigh;230824 Wrote:
hmmm...so it is possible - thanks!
11.2896MHz superclock from db System only, no other choice. Cost of
this modification 250 Euros (ca. 356 USD) - somewhat exorbitant.
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recommends slaving the source to the DAC or an external masterclock. As
someone said before, correcting an error is inferior to avoiding it. A
notion with which I tend to agree.
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Phil Leigh;230874 Wrote:
If jitter-bugging isn't the theme of this thread then what is it?
Depends on how you're using the term: the avoidance of jitter, in my
terminology, is not the same as the cleaning up of a jittery signal.
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Who's going to do the clock mod on your SB?
That's what I'd like to know, too.
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the terminology this side of the ocean.
No one claims there's no jitter to begin with.
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resolution capability, and all that at little or no extra cost. If
that were available, I obviously wouldn't complain either. ;^)
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one should try to
improve the SB's output stage, DAC, or power supply.
No disagreement. But that kind of product Slim Devices is already
offering: the Transporter.
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input of these products... (sigh!)
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yesterday need (=
people who already have a stereo including CD-transport and DAC, but
want in an audio server/streaming client in addition): something to
replace their transport with.
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and/or overkill if you have a DAC with wordclock in- and
output (the Pacecar probably being most interesting to people who
insist on I2S). In all this, don't forget: it's on/next to the DAC
board that the WC should be placed (physically!).
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applications, where either the DAC's or an external clock is
the master, and has been since - goodness, don't even remember - since
there is digital audio?
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Phil Leigh;230519 Wrote:
IF that is what you mean, then can someone advise as to how to get
wordclock fitted (modded) to my SB, TACT and DAC?
Now we're talking!
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switching for audiophiles who already have a digital
processor they're in love with and you might have a product that
offered all things to all comers.
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the same, but are gradually loosing relevance.
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no one's gone
down the studio application/synchronisation of multiple units path,
secretly assuming, like I do, that both Squeezebox and Transporter are
pieces of consumer electronics).
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hand experience.
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in
question.
Which doesn't mean I don't believe what you say may be the case with
some DACs. As mentioned before, I've even seen measurement of ones with
incorrect impedance, for both AES/EBU and S/PDIF inputs.
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to be for some other
reason.
I don't quite understand: is the Benchmark any more modern than the
latest versions of dCS Delius and Elgar, Madrigal No. 36, No. 36S and
No. 30.6, let alone offers jitter rejection on a higher level?
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, are attracted Slim Devices products
because one doesn't need to be a dedicated PC hacker to use them, have
to pay 1700 USD more to get a WC input (and, if needed, AES/EBU)? A
Squeezebox with WC input would do just fine.
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ezkcdude;230113 Wrote:
Because there aren't enough of you guys?
As valid an assumption as any, I'm afraid.
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betto;230120 Wrote:
Fully agreed.
Wouldn't swear on it as (proven) fact, but tend to think so, too. But
then, what do I know, right?
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input and the
relevant digital outputs) might already be a reality. Needless to say,
this is where I started this thread from: reading through forums here
and elsewhere, I got the impression I'm not alone in wanting this.
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ezkcdude;230220 Wrote:
It also makes one question the marketing claims.
Excuse my cynicism, but is anyone buying into those anyway? (And Nagra,
in my experience, isn't more prone to making extravagant claims than any
other manufacturer.)
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, thus may be excused for being
self-delusioned.
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audiophile reviews, and
you'll find that audiophiles, even otherwise respectable ones, more
often than not seem obsessed with finding change to always have to be
for better -or- worse.
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to say, right? So,
what about taking that possibility into consideration, that you might
indeed hear what I (and others) hear?
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, and ere I forget, let me remind us all, myself in particular, of
the obvious: what does all of the above prove? Nothing!
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these (and other forums') pages that if fairly
priced it would sell like hotcakes?
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' systems sounded
better tapping its AES/EBU output, sometimes only subtly, usually
clearly so.
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, much less
an expert on jitter or jitter-bug technology, *nor expressed any wish
to discuss it, let alone get attacked* for stating the obvious!
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proved my
point: jitter alone won't explain sonic differences. Ball's back in
your yard.
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goes wrong (if indeed anything goes wrong) is
due to the format, the cables or, as you essentially appear to be
alluding to, the DAC's PLL? But then, whatever bothers a DAC's PLL
cannot be entirely the PLL's fault, right?
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reeve_mike;115330 Wrote:
the SB path is modified to include a word clock input
I consider using a Squeezebox with my dCS Purcell/Delius combo myself,
thus am curious to learn: how can the SB be modded so it has a word
clock input?
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or the
DAC's masterclock (such as if used to feed AES/EBU into a dCS
converter)?
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curious to hear. AES/EBU output and word clock input are the only
reason I'm considering the Transporter at all (no use for its in-built
DAC).
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will that feature make enough of a difference to justify doing so?
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