Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-26 Thread Paul Wilkins
ce of interference with PJCIS doing its job. With Julia Banks' announcement she will move to the crossbenches, I will take plenty of 6 to 4 against Dutton (MP?) getting his way and passing the Assistance and Access Bill before Christmas. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 09:52

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-26 Thread Paul Wilkins
If Dutton is in fact ineligible to sit, then so too is his motion to introduce the Bill to Parliament. Or such is the stuff of dreams? Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 09:39, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Seems Dutton is about to get a lesson in constitutional law: > > S44 (i

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-26 Thread Paul Wilkins
of the House of Representatives. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 10:34, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > After the Department Home Affairs sitting on this Bill for over a year and > conducting industry consultation they claim is confidential (ie: they have > no one who

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-25 Thread Paul Wilkins
d serious crime in the context of rising use of encryption. Rising use of encryption is hardly news to anyone. After all, a rising tide lifts all boats. https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=a46f0ed4-fc0d-4e95-bbd3-ef8fafe419ab&subId=663130 Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 25 Nov

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-24 Thread Paul Wilkins
rests, not with the Crown as you might ingenuously assume, but with the carrier who unwittingly acted as directed. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 06:38, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- > ...the drafting certainly seems loose enough for a fut

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-23 Thread Paul Wilkins
for the foreseeable future. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 12:17, Paul Wilkins wrote: > s/Fourth Amendment > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 12:15, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > >> It's a very good question how, when anyone who knows what they're talking &

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-23 Thread Paul Wilkins
s/Fourth Amendment On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 12:15, Paul Wilkins wrote: > It's a very good question how, when anyone who knows what they're talking > about opposes the Bill > as an effective and reasonable approach to fighting terrorism and serious > crime in the contex

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-23 Thread Paul Wilkins
7;ve accused anyone opposing the Bill to be weak on terrorism. So instead of a sensible public discussion of how to enable legal intercept for encrypted communications, we're getting the Liberal Trumpists using the Bill as a blunt object to wedge Labor on terrorism and that's all that matt

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-22 Thread Paul Wilkins
it will be a Labor government administering it, and they are more likely to want to pass their own rather than have to deal with the Human Rights gaps, mass surveillance implications, technical anomalies, and broken multi agency framework. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 16:48, Paul

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-21 Thread Paul Wilkins
ionate. The Department of Home Affairs will do themselves no favours to create an evidentiary framework, only to be thrown out by the courts because the evidentiary chain was unlawful. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 14:34, Paul Wilkins wrote: > *"it's going to o

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-21 Thread Paul Wilkins
eople, it's going to our government... > [image: VentraIP Australia logo] > > > *Bradley Silverman*Technical Operations \\ VentraIP Australia > *M: *+61 418 641 103 | *P:* +61 3 9013 8464 | ventraip.com.au > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:17 AM Paul Wilkins > wro

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-21 Thread Paul Wilkins
deal in the Upper House, with differently aligned cross benchers. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 22:44, Bryan O'Reilly wrote: > Hi Paul, > > > > I’m looking forward to your Lunchtime Lecture next week on this topic! > > > > Kind regard

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-20 Thread Paul Wilkins
so wide of the mark or so cynical. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 04:15, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 18:12, Christian Heinrich > wrote: > > > https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/victoria-police-arrest-three-people-a

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-17 Thread Paul Wilkins
ack of liability for unlawful disclosures. 13 - Why has the government of the day referred this deeply flawed Bill to the PJCIS, PJCHR, and the SSCSB, for review wasting public time and money, rather than sending it back to Dep't Home Affairs for a complete overhaul of it's scope and objec

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-16 Thread Paul Wilkins
g constitutional question, how, when Police Powers lie with the States, what constitutional head of power supports the Bill's scope, without enabling legislation from the States conferring power. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 10:34, Scott Weeks wrote: > > >

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-15 Thread Paul Wilkins
s they may need to pander to to remain in office. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 15:11, Christian Heinrich < christian.heinr...@cmlh.id.au> wrote: > Paul, > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 17:36, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > > > > tracking convoys of (possib

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-15 Thread Paul Wilkins
A new hearing <http://www.aph.gov.au/sitecore/content/Home/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Public_Hearings> has been added: *04 Dec 2018* On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 17:35, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Consequently, should this Bill pass,

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
ic.com.au wrote: > >> Could they possibly give less notice Unbelievable! >> >> Nathan Brookfield >> Chief Executive Officer >> >> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd >> http://www.simtronic.com.au >> >> On 15 Nov 2018, at 10:40, Paul Wilkins

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
necessary for the enforcement of the criminal law. On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 16:37, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Another avenue for LEAs to access metadata would be via 280(1)(b) where > disclosure is required under a TCN/TAN (thereby overriding the disclosure > prohibition o 276)(1) > > 280 A

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
any other case—the disclosure or use is required or authorised by or under law. On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 15:35, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Dutton's argument is premised on a false equivalence. > > It's perfectly possible to protect against terrorism without throwing out > the b

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
Dutton's argument is premised on a false equivalence. It's perfectly possible to protect against terrorism without throwing out the baby with the bathwater, kicking doors in on data centres and warrantless mass surveillance. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 15:25,

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
vision for voluntary disclosure by carriers to LEAs, which either I can't find or has been amended. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 11:58, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > https://www.arnnet.com.au/article/648206/cisco-raises-grave-concerns-over-assistance-access-bill/ &

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
! > > Nathan Brookfield > Chief Executive Officer > > Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd > http://www.simtronic.com.au > > On 15 Nov 2018, at 10:40, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > Media Release: Issue date: 14 November 2018 > > *Second public hearing on the Encrypt

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
ons Special Rapporteur on the right to privacy: https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8012483f-e421-41a7-8bd4-1e8eb5eb39eb&subId=661745 Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 10:47, Mark Andrews wrote: > There was at-least 3 weeks notice of a meeting tomorrow in Sydney even

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
, 13 Nov 2018 at 11:36, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Communications Alliance submission > <https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=789049aa-edfc-48e2-a79c-0dd1c28f95b8&subId=662644> > makes > the point both s313 and s280 (1)(b) of the Telecommunications Act 1997 > are curre

Re: [AusNOG] google potential route hijacked.

2018-11-12 Thread Paul Wilkins
What I think's interesting is that route filters are still the go to for BGP authentication. Nobody steals DNS to the degree of BGP, because DNS has solid PKI authentication. If RPKI only had the same chain of trust for in-addr.arpa as the rest of DNS does back to iana. Kind regards

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-12 Thread Paul Wilkins
e new bill, about a dozen LEAs will similarly be able to rely on s313 and s280(1)(b) to get warrantless metadata access. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 13:09, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Coexistence with Data Retention Regime (Under Telecommunications Act) > > > Passage of

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
under the Telecommunications Act can be rendered by the service provider as voluntary assistance. On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 11:50, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Rob, > Check your inbox/spam folder 29/10. > > Kind regards > Paul Wilkins > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 08:33, Robert Hudson wro

[AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Data Retention & Assistance and Access Bill 2018

2018-11-01 Thread Paul Wilkins
ion plans. Can anybody think of any unintended consequences this might have? Or how this would not provide a better outcome to the alternative which is access to metadata being requested separately from a dozen different Law Enforcement Agencies? Kind regard

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-31 Thread Paul Wilkins
Rob, Check your inbox/spam folder 29/10. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 08:33, Robert Hudson wrote: > Odd. I signed up to track the enquiry, but have had no notifications at > all that additional hearings had been scheduled. > > There's an another additional

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-30 Thread Paul Wilkins
nnouncing two additional hearings 16/30 Nov, are also asking for *supplementary submissions, to be received no later than 26 November.* Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 13:07, Paul Wilkins wrote: > We're at a critical juncture where the Minister for Home Affairs may get &g

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-25 Thread Paul Wilkins
dustry to consider the broader issues at play and the implications (and possible unintended consequences of the Bill). Submission to PJCIS - BSA (Cisco, IBM et al.)(48) On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 16:48, Paul Wilkins wrote: > I'm determined the Minister for Home Affairs doesn't get to

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Wilkins
661197 Australian Human Rights Commission: https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=a7b9ff25-7c09-41e9-b97a-56dae1ac0e94&subId=661055 PJCHR,starts @ p24: https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Committees/Senate/committee/humanrights_ctte/reports/2018/Report%2011/c01.pdf?la=en Kind regards Paul Wi

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Wilkins
*New PJCIS Public Hearings* *16 Nov 2018:* Sydney, NSW *30 Nov 2018:* Canberra, ACT https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018 On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 13:23, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Has anyone yet had the opportunity to th

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Wilkins
Has anyone yet had the opportunity to think through the use of force provisions? Does use of force extend beyond physical forced entry, to say, hacking? Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 18:03, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Compare: > > CHAIR: So the big companies like Faceboo

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Wilkins
TOBER 2018 "The government has consulted *extensively* with industry and the public on these measuresand has made amendments to reflect the feedback in the legislation now before the parliament." Minister for Home Affairs - Speech to Parliament 20 Sept 2018 On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 16:0

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-23 Thread Paul Wilkins
mpacts on public safety, cybersecurity, privacy and human rights, raising concern among industry, consumer and civil society groups. On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 11:30, Paul Wilkins wrote: > The PJCHR express extensive concerns with the bill. > > > https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Commit

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-23 Thread Paul Wilkins
the safeguards in terms of oversight and review would assist in determining the proportionality of the measures. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 15:12, Paul Wilkins wrote: > 21 October AEC had received 6890 postal votes out of 12,788 issued. Today, > received postal votes is

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-22 Thread Paul Wilkins
21 October AEC had received 6890 postal votes out of 12,788 issued. Today, received postal votes is 7,789. Sharma is trailing by 1,552. So I'm calling it a Phelps' win and we will have minority government. Phelps will win by at least 500 votes so no recount. Kind regards Paul Wilkins

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-22 Thread Paul Wilkins
l, > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:12 PM Paul Wilkins > wrote: > > Except that where subject to an order under 317j to conceal the > existence of a TCN/TAN forms part of the terms. > > For PCI-DSS Requirement 4 Telstra [as an example I don't recommend] > have mandat

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-21 Thread Paul Wilkins
knowing if such a direction exists. Consequently every PCI compliance becomes suspect, and consequently the whole PCI compliance regime is systematically weakened. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 13:04, Christian Heinrich < christian.heinr...@cmlh.id.au> wrote: > Paul,

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-21 Thread Paul Wilkins
hat 317G offers immunity against all TCN/TAN requests. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 11:30, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Question: Is it possible to pass a PCI audit, while potentially bound to > silence regarding: > >- source integrity >- secret functionality &g

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-21 Thread Paul Wilkins
liant"? Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 13:03, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Oh, well almost elevated to Federal Parliament. > > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 12:55, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > >> The turnup on Saturday with the elevation of Kerryn Phelps to Federal >&g

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-20 Thread Paul Wilkins
Oh, well almost elevated to Federal Parliament. On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 12:55, Paul Wilkins wrote: > The turnup on Saturday with the elevation of Kerryn Phelps to Federal > Parliament means a very different playing field for Dutton. It's one thing > to ask Labor to pass a Bill

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-20 Thread Paul Wilkins
tated priorities are environment and refugees, so obviously won't want to scrape off the shiny new mint of political capital on Law and Order issues, but she's been a strong human rights advocate, and the Bill raises serious human rights issues. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 19 O

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-18 Thread Paul Wilkins
If you're concerned by the Bill's overreach, where it allows for arbitrary and disproportionate interference in privacy, write the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights: human.rig...@aph.gov.au Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 11:31, Paul Wilkins wrote: >

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-18 Thread Paul Wilkins
Appeared this morning. Runs to 60pp vs 20pp for the Home Affairs submission. https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=859d9cda-0f99-4bef-994f-edc6006c87bf&subId=661321 On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:55, Paul Wilkins wrote: > I'd also venture the roll call for Friday is in no small d

Re: [AusNOG] Copyright Amendment Bill 2018

2018-10-18 Thread Paul Wilkins
(2B) Without limiting subsection(2A), the injunction may: (a) require the carriage service provider to take reasonable steps to do either or both of the following: (i) block domain names, URLs and IP addresses that provide access to the online location and that are specified in the injunction; (

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-16 Thread Paul Wilkins
I'd also venture the roll call for Friday is in no small degree window dressing for Saturday's Wentworth turnout. I did forward my letter to PJCIS onto Kerryn Phelps. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:48, Paul Wilkins wrote: > The Committee is currently acceptin

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-16 Thread Paul Wilkins
2018.* *https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018 <https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018>* On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:44, Paul Wilkins wrote: &

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-16 Thread Paul Wilkins
y this is by design. Some very critical views are not to be heard from. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 21:13, Robert Hudson wrote: > Hi all, > > The schedule for the first day of public hearings on the 19th of October > (this Friday) has been released: > >

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-11 Thread Paul Wilkins
Robert, When in Canberra, don't look for any support from PJCIS Chairman Andrew Hastie, who is a Dutton supporter, and one of the leading conspirators in rolling Turnbull. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 12:45, Robert Hudson wrote: > PJCIS is listing 37 submissions -

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-11 Thread Paul Wilkins
> Regards, > > Robert > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 10:26, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > >> Thanks Rob, >> >> I want to say thanks to everyone who's made the effort for what's a >> pretty thankless and costly investment of time - trying to convey a messa

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-11 Thread Paul Wilkins
public record to hold Home Affairs to account for what's some pretty imperious unilateralism and shabby disregard for the industry's and the public's concerns and best interests. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 09:46, Robert Hudson wrote: > I have just sen

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-10 Thread Paul Wilkins
My submission is now up on PJCIS . Worth a read for anyone interested. https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions Kind Regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 15:05, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Oh ho!! Now the r

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-10 Thread Paul Wilkins
Wilkins On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Dep't Home Affairs submission to PJCIS has turned up. > > > https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8704d357-2f09-4173-871a-f073166d4e10&subId=660956 > > Kind Regards > > Paul Wilkins > >

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-10 Thread Paul Wilkins
Dep't Home Affairs submission to PJCIS has turned up. https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8704d357-2f09-4173-871a-f073166d4e10&subId=660956 Kind Regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:14, Christian Heinrich < christian.heinr...@cmlh.id.au> wrote: > Paul,

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-10 Thread Paul Wilkins
TODAY all submissions to the Dep't Home Affairs are available. https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/consultations/assistance-and-access-bill-2018 Good job peeps, 24 hours before submissions close with JCIS. Kind Regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 12:42, Paul Wilkins wrote: &g

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-09 Thread Paul Wilkins
. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 12:24, Peter Tonoli wrote: > hi Paul, > > Quoting Paul Wilkins : > > > Careful how you go there Paul. Dutton made the following statement to the > > House 20th September 2018. > > > > "The government h

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-09 Thread Paul Wilkins
e and expressions of grave concern will have Labor see sense and block the Bill. Which is a shame. The only person with any skin in the game is Dutton. The Liberals have nothing to gain in supporting this Bill. Kind regards Paul Wilkins ___ AusNOG ma

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-09 Thread Paul Wilkins
I suggest saving comments as to the veracity of the extensive consultation process to what can be expressed within submissions to the PJCIS, which (as long as you don't publish anywhere else) are subject to Parliamentary privilege. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 18:22, Pau

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-10-08 Thread Paul Wilkins
t than just Dutton's Office. But it will be very interesting to see where Labor draws its policy direction from. The reach of police powers envisaged in the Bill will find strong resistance in Labor ranks. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 19:34, Christian Heinrich < christian.

Re: [AusNOG] Mobile network-provided time zone

2018-10-06 Thread Paul Wilkins
S idea of timezone, and possibility for confusion when the network and OS setting disagree. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 07:37, Paul Gear wrote: > Hi all, > > In the past 10 or so years, I've used every major mobile carrier's > network, through both the car

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
1 - Denials by Apple & Amazon are qualified 2 - Bloomberg are a reputable news agency 3 - They quote multiple sources 4 - They quote 30 approx companies affected 5 - This is a feasible vector, which means it's a risk Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 15:05, Matthew Mo

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
following year, for what it described as unrelated reasons. On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 10:29, Shannon Pearce wrote: > Not sure how posting a link to the purported fake news article is proof > said article is not fake? > > Shan. > > On 5 Oct 2018, at 10:27 am, Paul Wilkins wrote: > &

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
Negatory on the fake news. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 10:25, Jay Dixon wrote: > As our previous security manager at work put it in his thick Russian > accent... > > "you k

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-03 Thread Paul Wilkins
Preventing women being harassed at public conventions and stopping for red traffic lights. Both are the same nanny state obtruding pesky value signaling into the stream of social intercourse. Do like I do, and drive straight through. Someone needs to stop the madness. Kind regards Paul Wilkins

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
to accept responsibility. Instead, you referred Bevan to the police, which was an entirely inappropriate abdication of yours and the board's personal/fiduciary/moral responsibility. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 17:49, Paul Wilkins wrote: > "Seems you've never

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
"Seems you've never been to a meeting." The verity of this statement cannot be overexaggerated. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 17:42, Mark Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 16:50, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > > > > The need for a Code of C

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
Thanks for that Nathan. Though I have to disagree, and refer you to the Sex Discrimination Act, where you can't structurally exclude women from engaging in public life. Private Corporation regardless. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 17:11, Nathan Brookfield < nathan

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-01 Thread Paul Wilkins
That they couldn't find a woman up to the required standard gives rise to an unfortunate impression of the board acting as a boy's club. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 16:10, David Hughes wrote: > > We thank Bevan for raising this important issue and bringing it

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual Harassment at AUSNOG Industry Events

2018-10-01 Thread Paul Wilkins
and if there's a breach of conduct, to ensure the problem is addressed and won't happen again rather than swept under the carpet. It also goes to creating an environment where people are comfortable there won't be adverse consequences for raising or discussing legitimate concerns.

Re: [AusNOG] *** STOP THREAD *** Sexual Harassment at AUSNOG Industry Events

2018-09-30 Thread Paul Wilkins
volve themselves in instances of criminal behaviour. Most inappropriate workplace behaviour falls short and they won't be interested. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 12:46, David Hughes wrote: > > *Bevan*, > > Any allegation of sexual harassment is a very serious ma

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Wilkins
I stand corrected. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 12:40, Narelle Clark wrote: > > Wrong agency - it's Home Affairs (Peter Dutton is the minister) not the > Attorney General's (Christian Porter) department. > > Narelle > > On Thu, Sep 27

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Wilkins
he Bill is premature, deficient and badly framed. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 11:07, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/27/australias-spyware-law-could-expose-phones-to-exploitation-business-group-warns > > Submission by

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Wilkins
in Canberra if > there is to be only one day. I'm still waiting on confirmation of venue. > > Paul. > > > On 25/09/2018 5:05 PM, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > I'm thinking Dutton's decision to push ahead with an ill drawn bill wasn't > completely isola

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-09-25 Thread Paul Wilkins
t computer. I think it's arguable the Bill doesn't extend to compelling access to ancillary computers/network devices, needed to extract data from the target computer. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 13:51, wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: >

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-09-24 Thread Paul Wilkins
ed international law. The remaining justifications for TCNs/TANs are to prosecute serious crime and terrorism, which the government is within its constitutional powers to do. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 11:52, Narelle Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:5

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-09-24 Thread Paul Wilkins
's been consulted. As to amendments, there has been the removal of "protecting the public revenue" as an objective of the Bill, which was probably illegal anyway.. The Bill's not ready to pass. Has Dutton tabled a hurried Bill only to change the conversation in the House? Res

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-09-23 Thread Paul Wilkins
quot; as a relevant objective of TANs/TCNs. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 at 12:09, Robert Hudson wrote: > ITPA will make another submission. > > I notice the comment period is again very short, and the page liked > mentions nothing on the previouw submissions t

[AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-09-21 Thread Paul Wilkins
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Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-19 Thread Paul Wilkins
hether statutory safeguards are adequate. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 13:11, Mark Newton wrote: > I challenge you to identify the last time the High Court invalidated any > Australian legislation whatsoever on the grounds of conflict with the > International C

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-18 Thread Paul Wilkins
tion. I'm sure Mark you're aware the UK surveillance powers have had to be redrafted after a challenge to the European Court of Human Rights. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 14:22, Mark Newton wrote: > “Possible High Court challenge”? > > Jesus Christ,

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-18 Thread Paul Wilkins
and proportionate" to the threat. Which is all very well and sets the scene for possible High Court challenge if the Bill becomes law. All it needs is someone prepared to risk prison on the odds of creating a precedent. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 11:45, Paul Wilkins

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
Pacific/Power Space, Cad Pacific, Cisco, CNC/Mastercam, DataStax,DocuSign, IBM, Informatica, Intel, Mathworks, Microsoft, Okta, Oracle, PTC, Salesforce, SAS Institute, Siemens PLM Software, Splunk, Symantec, TrendMicro, Trimble Solutions Corporation, and Workday. Kind Regards Paul Wilkins On Fri

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-12 Thread Paul Wilkins
with a liberal democracy, and proportionate to the need for privacy. If I contribute to the process, it's to ensure a better outcome than had I stood idle and silent. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 12:58, Mark Smith wrote: > You realise you're being an enabler do

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-12 Thread Paul Wilkins
ch efforts. However, it's going to be a struggle, given where, if you've noticed, gov.au is not yet DNSSEC signed - which I find deliciously ironic, the government issuing itself new powers to protect our cyber security, while their whole TLD flaps in the breeze... Kind regards Paul Wilk

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-11 Thread Paul Wilkins
#x27;s a strong vindication for the processes of representative democracy that so many have taken the time to make a contribution. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 09:49, Paul Brooks wrote: > Thanks Rob. > Internet Australia's submission is at > https://internet.org.au

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-08 Thread Paul Wilkins
oing to make for bad law, and unhappy outcomes, both for law enforcement and service providers. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 at 12:14, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Whether the bill meets its objectives (whatever they may be), and whether > the bill passes in its present form i

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-06 Thread Paul Wilkins
tly upstream, rather than in the public domain. A private citizen will only ever see the number of Capability/Assistance Notices issued (see 317ZS Annual reports). Which is meaningless. There needs to be correlation to investigations and prosecutions, and their type and seriousness. Kind regards Pau

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-06 Thread Paul Wilkins
Not for profits still rely on a revenue stream. Time will tell. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 17:28, wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > > 1 - I take a dim view of the implied bad faith. You need to have a > > think about the implicati

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-05 Thread Paul Wilkins
onus to offer evidence. I o n the other hand, have posted extensively on this thread, and quoted the relevan t legislation. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 01:04, Mark Newton wrote: > > On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > > > Rather than

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
, including the police. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 11:43, Paul Brooks wrote: > On 4/09/2018 6:17 PM, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > > > I'd encourage others making submissions to raise the same point. > Government has > > clearly not considered thi

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
warrant. I was pretty gob smacked. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 12:04, Narelle Clark wrote: > Paul B - is that agency explicitly referred to or inferable readily in > the legislation? > > Otherwise Paul W does have a point, there is the potential for the >

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
The Communications Access Co-ordinator is established under the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 as the Secretary of the Attorney-General’s Department. It's a position, not an agency. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 12:04, Narelle Clark wrote: >

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
issions to raise the same point. Government has clearly not considered this dimension, otherwise the first cab off the rank in the bill's phrasing would be to create a new agency, or identifying a single agency on which to confer these powers. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 4 Sep 2018

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
4 Sep 2018 at 17:56, Paul Wilkins wrote: > "We have agreed to a Statement of Principles on Access to Evidence and > Encryption > <https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/national-security/five-country-ministerial-2018/access-evidence-encryption> > that sets out a framewor

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
> them. Why should AS** develop an exploit, when they can ask Apple or >> Netgear or Samsung nicely to develop and install the exploit for them. >> >> We've spent decades educating users that the green padlock on a website >> means something, and that 'IOT devices' such as your

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-03 Thread Paul Wilkins
th the process. Otherwise LEA will steam roll ahead with the sort of ambit claims included in the bill. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 00:05, Paul Brooks wrote: > On 3/09/2018 11:47 AM, Chris Ford wrote: > > Paul, > > > I agree with you in general as to the poi

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-03 Thread Paul Wilkins
3 - Also in this ideal world, this one government agency issuing the warrant SSL certificates, and collecting warrant data, would have it's DNS DNSSEC signed ;) Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 16:56, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Point taken that the point of insertion is i

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