Re: Scouted: Vinyl Chloride Eater

2003-07-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > >Apparently we've inadvertantly helped develop a > >bacterium that needs our waste to live: > > > >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030703/ap_on_sc/toxic_feeder_5 > >"...Vinyl chloride is one of the most

SC2 music (was Re: Update)

2003-07-10 Thread Jim Sharkey
Bryon Daly wrote: >I actually have the majority of the SC2 music in .mod format, which >is actually their original format. >Anyway, I have a zip file with 34 .mods from SC2 - it's about 1.9MB. >So if your interested, I can email the file to you (and anyone else >who's interested). Also, Winam

Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Russell Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Must have cost a fortune to produce compared to a simple card sleeve. I had a Led Zeppelin album which had about 4 covers between you and the vinyl, and my personal favourite - Led Zeppelin's In Through The Out Door - the cover was a bland sepia look, b

Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Bryon Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I especially miss the novelty LP album covers (like my original Led Zeppelin > III cover with the picture wheel in it) and the double albums with > suitable-for-hanging-in-your-dorm-room trippy artwork inside.

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: "Andrew Crystall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aha yes, the European name for _Dragonseye_ is _Red Star Rising_. I prefer the European name, again (heh). Then again, most UK printing's cover art tends to be well...not as good. For the Harry Potter books, I like the UK cover art better, at least judgi

Re: Update

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bryon Daly wrote: >From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Of course, since Star Control II was a *GREAT* game, at least >>they're borrowing from the best. :) >Star Control 2 is one of the best games I've ever played. I still >occasionally listen to some

Re: Irregulars query: air pressure in spinning habitats

2003-07-10 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: > ... > > The same as in case 1. > > Yes, I agree. > > P/P0 = exp[ - ( h / R )^2 / 3.45 ] > > Since h/R = 1/5 = 0.2, P/P0 = 0.988 > > > (Although a pressure of .988 bar seems a bit high--a kilometer of > > height makes a much larger pressure difference on Earth.) >

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As to Gautam's list. He lists Pedro, Maddux (who has > really done well in post season) Clemons and Seaver. > Thus the 4 greatest picthers have all pitched in the > past 20 years and three are active simultaneously. > What are the odds of that? Baseball has been aroun

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > These numbers demonstate absolute dominance. The > counter arguement that he did this in a week hitting > era does not prove that he would not have done it in > any era. After all ERA is a statistic that has a > lower theoretical limit (it cannot be less than 0) > an

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-10 Thread Bemmzim
part 3 Koufax was big and strong. He had enormous powerful hands. He could hold 6 balls in one hand. He threw two pitches and never varied his release point. He threw fast ball that batters swore sped up. This is of course impossible but what it did not do is slow down (all others do). His spee

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-10 Thread Bemmzim
Koufax continued. Koufax pitched 397 games; he completed 137 and had 40 shut outs (11 in 63 got that 11 shutouts in one year, 7 in 64 and 8 in 65). Koufax pitched 7 ws games. He was 4 and 3 (4 and 2 from 63 on). His ERA was .97. In 63 the Dodgers swept the Yankess a team that won the AL by ove

Re: Update

2003-07-10 Thread Jim Sharkey
Bryon Daly wrote: >From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Of course, since Star Control II was a *GREAT* game, at least >>they're borrowing from the best. :) >Star Control 2 is one of the best games I've ever played. I still >occasionally listen to some mp3's of the music from it! Oooh, wh

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:20:29AM -0600, Michael Harney wrote: On the topic of _/_ by Greg Bear, I may start another thread later about that book, but I wanted to ask, for those who have read more of Greg Bear's books if _/_ represented a One of Greg Bear's better books, was o

Re: Update

2003-07-10 Thread Jim Sharkey
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jim Sharkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Of course, since Star Control II was a *GREAT* game, at least >>they're borrowing from the best. :) >Ah, Star Control 2. I think that might still be my all-time >favorite game. That was a fun one. If there was anything like

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-10 Thread Bemmzim
> Except that Koufax pitched in Dodger Stadium, off a > 20" mound (the mound in Dodger Stadium was illegally > high) in an era when the _batting title winner_ hit > .301 in the American League, and the HR high was in > the low 30s, IIRC. Pedro puts up ERAs similar to > Koufax's when the batting ti

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
William T Goodall wrote: What does "the coelacanth is extinct" mean? And what did it mean 100 years ago? Exactly! You seem to have grasped the point. Until someone can produce some convincing evidence (a specimen isn't necessary) But it would be helpful! 8^) then god(s) don't exist. Doug

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Robert Seeberger wrote: Erik, could you give me a brief rundown on the repeatable experiments performed in the past that tried to prove or disprove the existence of deities or Deity. I'd also like to hear your opinion on the qualities that would make or not make them "good science". And while you'

Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 7/10/2003 4:14:55 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >The British edition was better than what us herms got. The cover slipped > out > > >to reveal the hanged man. It didn't for the US edition. > > > > Yes it did. At least, mine did. Unless I someho

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Jul 2003 at 18:01, Julia Thompson wrote: > Andrew Crystall wrote: > > > > On 10 Jul 2003 at 14:47, Reggie Bautista wrote: > > > > > Michael Harney wrote: > > > >I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels > > > >a question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphi

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Michael Harney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: Reading lists. > I know that this list was originally started as a list dedicated to > discussion of specific authors and their books, so I th

Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Russell Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Why we "cast" novels > Bryon Daly wrote: > > > I especially miss the novelty LP album covers (like my original Led > > Zeppe

Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Russell Chapman
Bryon Daly wrote: I especially miss the novelty LP album covers (like my original Led Zeppelin III cover with the picture wheel in it) and the double albums with suitable-for-hanging-in-your-dorm-room trippy artwork inside. It's a real shame: the death of the LP and the small size of CD and t

Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: Re: Why we "cast" novels > >The British edition was better than what us herms got. The cover slipped out > >to reveal the hanged man. It didn't fo

Re: more on printing organs

2003-07-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: more on printing organs Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:26:27 -0500 At 09:33 PM 7/9/03 -0500, The Fool wrote: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3916

Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Russell Chapman
Bryon Daly wrote: I especially miss the novelty LP album covers (like my original Led Zeppelin III cover with the picture wheel in it) and the double albums with suitable-for-hanging-in-your-dorm-room trippy artwork inside. It's a real shame: the death of the LP and the small size of CD and t

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Andrew Crystall wrote: > > On 10 Jul 2003 at 14:47, Reggie Bautista wrote: > > > Michael Harney wrote: > > >I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels a > > >question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphins of Pern_. > > >The question I have is: Are the events in s

Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Bryon Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: Why we "cast" novels > >From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > From: Bryon Daly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >You mean you can actually see th

Re: Irregulars query: air pressure in spinning habitats

2003-07-10 Thread Robert J. Chassell
I goofed in calculating the air pressures in Rama. I hope these calculations are correct! (mapconcat '(lambda (h) "Calculate air pressures in a spinning space habitat" (format "%f \n" (let ((e 2.718181828) (R 8.0)) ; radius of h

Re: Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: Re: Re: On the topic of atheism. > On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:53:46AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: > > > ---Original Message---

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2003-07-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
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Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread TomFODW
>The British edition was better than what us herms got. The cover slipped out >to reveal the hanged man. It didn't for the US edition. Yes it did. At least, mine did. Unless I somehow managed to buy the British edition in a US store. -- Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: On the topic of atheism. Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:28:26 +0100 On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 12:24 am, Reggie Bautista wrote: As was discussed i

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: On the topic of atheism. Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:53:46 -0400 (EDT) ---Original Message--- From: Jon Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "It

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: On the topic of atheism. Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:59:35 -0400 On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:50:47AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: > ---Original Messa

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Jul 2003 at 14:47, Reggie Bautista wrote: > Michael Harney wrote: > >I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels a > >question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphins of Pern_. > >The question I have is: Are the events in some of the other pern > >books more e

Re: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 7/10/2003 12:27:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I miss the cover of Monty Python's "Matching Tie and Handkerchief" (if you've > seen it, you know what I mean). Actually, I miss "Matching Tie and > Handkerchief." Well, I own the LP, but if you've

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 11:02 am, John D. Giorgis wrote: ---Original Message--- From: William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Until someone can produce some convincing evidence (a specimen isn't necessary) then god(s) don't exist." Unforunately Wllliam, you aren't the final arbite

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Michael Harney wrote: I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels a question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphins of Pern_. The question I have is: Are the events in some of the other pern books more epic? Let me elaborate for clarity. I liked the books, but I

RE: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread TomFODW
>I especially miss the novelty LP album covers (like my original Led Zeppelin >III cover with the picture wheel in it) and the double albums with >suitable-for-hanging-in-your-dorm-room trippy artwork inside.  It's a real >shame: the death of the LP and the small size of CD and tape covers seem

GOP axis of hate

2003-07-10 Thread The Fool
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Jul/07072003/commenta/73077.asp Is U.S. Congress being led by grand old gay bashers? By Harold Meyerson Special to The Washington Post Scalia's justifications for discriminatory conduct sound terribly familiar. Change "homosexual" to "Negro" and Scalia is at on

RE: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
John Horn wrote: Give me a full-size LP for cover art anyday. Of course, not too many of those left... Bryon Daley replied: I especially miss the novelty LP album covers (like my original Led Zeppelin III cover with the picture wheel in it) and the double albums with suitable-for-hanging-in-you

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Julia wrote: Let's see if I can remember order of publication: Dragonflight Dragonquest The White Dragon Moreta Dragonsdawn Nerilka's Story I think _Nerilka's Story was before Dragonsdawn, and at least two of the HarperHall books were before The White Dragon if I'm not mistaken... The first thr

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Erik wrote: I'd recommend _Moving Mars_ and _Blood Music_ as his best novels. I haven't read _Moving Mars_, but I agree that _Blood Music_ is one of Bear's best. In fact, right now it's my favorite novel by any of the Killer B's. Reggie Bautista

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Jul 2003 at 13:55, Bryon Daly wrote: > >From: "Andrew Crystall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >_The Mote Arround Mucheson's Eye_ > >(yes, the sequel to _A Mote in god's Eye_) > > Hmmm. I thought the sequel to The Mote In God's Eye was The Gripping > Hand. Perhaps they titled the book differen

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Harney
From: "Bryon Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >From: "Michael Harney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >On the topic of _/_ by Greg Bear, I may start another thread later about > >that book, but I wanted to ask, for those who have read more of Greg Bear's > >books if _/_ represented a One of Greg Bear's better

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: "Andrew Crystall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _The Mote Arround Mucheson's Eye_ (yes, the sequel to _A Mote in god's Eye_) Hmmm. I thought the sequel to The Mote In God's Eye was The Gripping Hand. Perhaps they titled the book differently in Europe? __

My latest -- OpenSector.org

2003-07-10 Thread Nick Arnett
Sometime in the past few minutes, Mitch Kapor, in his keynote at O'Reilly's Open Source conference in Portland announced my company's latest piece of work, which you can visit at http://www.opensector.org. It's a web site focused on public sector open software initiatives. This has been a bit of

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: "Michael Harney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels a question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphins of Pern_. The question I have is: Are the events in some of the other pern books more epic? Let me elaborate for clarity. I l

Re: Wasn't This Resolved a Long Time Ago? Re: God, Religion, andSports

2003-07-10 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 10:57 am, John D. Giorgis wrote: I certainly stopped paying serious attention to you a long time ago, when you demonstrated your incapacity for civility and seriousness. Perhaps if you demonstrated such capacity, people might pay attention to you. But as Julia re

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
Not really a direct reply, but I'm currently reading _The Mote Arround Mucheson's Eye_ (yes, the sequel to _A Mote in god's Eye_) and _Shadow Puppets_ (OSC - third in the _Shadow_ saga) Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/br

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:20:29AM -0600, Michael Harney wrote: > On the topic of _/_ by Greg Bear, I may start another thread later > about that book, but I wanted to ask, for those who have read more > of Greg Bear's books if _/_ represented a One of Greg Bear's better > books, was on par with m

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Michael Harney wrote: > > I know that this list was originally started as a list dedicated to > discussion of specific authors and their books, so I thought I would bring > up a topic that is closer to being actually on topic in the little time that > I have to compose email today (at least part o

RE: test

2003-07-10 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 06:34 2003-07-10 -0700, Nick wrote: Believe me, I would have noticed -- we're on a very short deadline... announcement to follow in the next three hours. Nick Nice way to pique my curiosity, Nick. Should I put some bubbly in the refrigerator? Jean-Louis

Re: Aliens? was Re: God, Religion, and Sports Medicine

2003-07-10 Thread Joshua Bell
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 11:29:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does it change anyone's perspective recalling that as many people > believe in aliens/intelligent life (or some such), as believe in > religion? It doesn't change mine. I don't "believe" in i

Re: test

2003-07-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of Julia Thompson > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:18 PM > > To: Killer Bs Discussion > > Subject: Re: test > > > > > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > > > > Ping? > > > > Pong. I

RE: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: Bryon Daly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You mean you can actually see the art on those itty-bitty CD cases? Give me a full-size LP for cover art anyday. Of course, not too many of those left... I especially miss the novelty LP album covers (like my ori

Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Harney
I know that this list was originally started as a list dedicated to discussion of specific authors and their books, so I thought I would bring up a topic that is closer to being actually on topic in the little time that I have to compose email today (at least part of the reason that I haven't repli

SCOUTED : 'Reading Rainbow' and its elusive pot of gold

2003-07-10 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
"It's wholesome, bright, and unpolluted by advertising tie-in gimmicks; it promotes literacy, and my children benefit from it enormously, so it's only natural that the PBS show "Reading Rainbow" is about to lose its signature butterfly wings due to a lack of funding." http://www.csmonitor.com/2

RE: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Horn, John
> From: Bryon Daly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I agree with Reggie, for pretty much the same reasons. I > don't think that > "casting" a novel is all that much more pointless than, say, > discussing > how Glorfindel, killed in the Silmarillion, is alive and well > to assist Frodo et al > on

RE: Why we "cast" novels

2003-07-10 Thread Horn, John
> From: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > John Horn replied: > > > > > >Does anyone else *HATE* these sorts of discussions as much > as I do? They > >are so unbelievably pointless! > > John, I have to respectfully disagree with you. And you are certainly allowed to. (Unlike in the

RE: br!n: the Chronicles of Riddick look like a Jijo ripoff :-/

2003-07-10 Thread Horn, John
> From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Well, that's one way that some people have fun. And some people can't understand why I still play RPGs at my age. Different people have fun in different ways, huh? > But, I must also point out, this is the only list I'm currently > subscribed

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 12:24 am, Reggie Bautista wrote: As was discussed in another branch of this thread, many people *do* feel they have evidence of the divine, in the form of numinous experiences and apparitions and what some people see as a guiding hand in their life, etc. It's jus

Re: More Sci-Fi Channel sadness....

2003-07-10 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 11:07:22PM -0500, Steve Sloan II wrote: > > > I would be very interested to know how much of those ratings came from > > Stargate (their last surviving serious SF show), how much came from > > Tremors (mediocre, occasionally cute, but not evil), and

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 06:02:02AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: > To use just one example, some 70% of Americans seem to have found the > evidence convincing - as has a significant supermajority of the entire > worlds population... No, many of them believe different, contradictory things. --

RE: test

2003-07-10 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Julia Thompson > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:18 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: test > > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > > Ping? > > Pong. I'm waiting to hear from Nick as to just what hap

Re: Update

2003-07-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jim Sharkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, since Star Control II was a *GREAT* game, > at least they're borrowing from the best. :) > > Jim Ah, Star Control 2. I think that might still be my all-time favorite game. That was a fun one. If there was anything like that out there rig

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Until someone can produce some convincing evidence (a specimen isn't necessary) then god(s) don't exist." Unforunately Wllliam, you aren't the final arbiter for humanity o

Re: Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:53:46AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: > ---Original Message--- From: Jon Gabriel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "It is impossible to prove that God > ...exists... with the exception of anecdotal examples." > > > Why does belief in anecdotal examples constitute "faith"? I

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:50:47AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: > ---Original Message--- From: Erik Reuter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Saying that > > for hundreds or thousands of years, no one has publicized a > repeatable experiment demonstrating the existence of some god, > therefore,

Re: Wasn't This Resolved a Long Time Ago? Re: God, Religion, andSports

2003-07-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Maybe they weren't paying attention either?" I certainly stopped paying serious attention to you a long time ago, when you demonstrated your incapacity for civility and seriousness. Perhaps if you demonstrated such ca

Re: Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: Jon Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "It is impossible to prove that God ...exists... with the exception of anecdotal examples." > Why does belief in anecdotal examples constitute "faith"? Is there some kind of "critical mass" of

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Saying that for hundreds or thousands of years, no one has publicized a repeatable experiment demonstrating the existence of some god, therefore, for all practical purposes, god does not exist seems much closer to a scien

RE: Update

2003-07-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:20 AM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Update > > At 02:14 PM 7/9/03 -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > >The full paragraph from the press release reads: > >In Advent Rising,

Re: Aliens? was Re: God, Religion, and Sports Medicine

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 11:29:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does it change anyone's perspective recalling that as many people > believe in aliens/intelligent life (or some such), as believe in > religion? It doesn't change mine. I don't "believe" in intelligent life. I think there is a g

Re: Irregulars query: air pressure in spinning habitats

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 09:11:22PM -0400, David Hobby wrote: > "Robert J. Chassell" wrote: > > > We may have interpreted the configuration differently. I interpreted > > C as meaning a torus, or donut, or `like the inner tube of a tire'. > > Agreed. > > > The short columns must h

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 06:24:21PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: > It's just not evidence that lends itself easily to scientific study. And is therefore very poor information, not really evidence at all, just anecdotes. One of the most important things about science is that anyone, anytime who ca

Re: Spider space elevator? (was: US-based missiles tohaveglobalreach)

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 01:03:14PM +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: > And once again, we have a winner! Congratulations! Which one? Which won? -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: more on printing organs

2003-07-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:33 PM 7/9/03 -0500, The Fool wrote: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3916 Nanotechnology may create new organs Oh. When I read the subject line, I wondered if it was about growing a built-in printer. Though I shudder to contemplate where the paper would come out . . .

Re: Update

2003-07-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:14 PM 7/9/03 -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: The full paragraph from the press release reads: In Advent Rising, a common legend pervades the galaxy - that of a powerful, ancient race that will one day unite the universe. Millions of cultures from vastly distant worlds revere and hallow these my

Re: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 11:23 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: It is impossible to prove that God either exists or does not exist somewhere, anywhere in the universe with the exception of anecdotal examples. Therefore, both belief *and* nonbelief in God are the result of

Re: Update

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ancient precursors aren't exactly a new idea in SF. Sounds more like a ripoff of Star Control II/SC III anyway. Of course, since Star Control II was a *GREAT* game, at least they're borrowing from the best. :) Star Control 2 is one of the best games I'v

Re: More Lies

2003-07-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgive me, but I'm not sure of your point in posting this with the subject "More Lies" - who are you accusing of lying? The Bush Administration or Howard Dean? No, forgive me, poor choice of titles. The Bushes are, of coarse, the devious ones. Doug ___