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From: "Z Fool"
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> From: Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > ---
> > Who are you responding to? Don't snip context.
> > ---
> Sorry, gmail always stacks the conversation based on subject and
> provid
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From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:29 AM
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> From: Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Gary Denton, Islamist traitor had this to say:
> Flattening it as you suggest would have cost us more support
> and universal condemnation.
>
> Or is that what you want?
>
> Since you keep proposing solutions that would increase hatred
> for America maybe you are on their side.
No, Gary, you
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From: Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ---
> Who are you responding to? Don't snip context.
> ---
Sorry, gmail always stacks the conversation based on subject and
provides no easy way to snip headers.
The following was what I was responding to.
Windows and other operating syste
From: The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 07:14:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Winning the War on Terror
> ---
> Who are you responding to? Don't snip context.
>
> ---
> Who are you responding to? Don't snip context.
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Sorry, gmail always stacks the conversation based on subject and
provides no easy way to snip headers.
The following was what I was responding to.
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99% of Iraq is still standing for one reason--we could afford to win the war
t
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Who are you responding to? Don't snip context.
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Fallujah blew up because of American miscalculation.
It still exists because the Army doesn't want high American casualty
urban street fighting with insufficient troops and the revolt
spreadi
Ritu 'rote:
> This strategy has worked so very well in Iraq, hasn't it? I
> mean you just had to invade them once and people were calm.
> After a year, when the camraderie gave a few idiots the wrong
> idea, all you had to do was strafe Fallujah and everything
> quieted down...
Time will tell
Fallujah blew up because of American miscalculation.
It still exists because the Army doesn't want high American casualty
urban street fighting with insufficient troops and the revolt
spreading across the country.
Just the fact they were fighting and how they were fighting cost
America Iraq suppo
At 04:46 AM 5/3/2004, you wrote:
>Ritu, who is not sure if Mike really believes what he says or if >he
is just good at parody
I would filter him out but silence equals assent.
But I don't have time to respond to each of his over the top
statements. Reminds me of some frequent posters I tracked do
>Ritu, who is not sure if Mike really believes what he says or if >he
is just good at parody
I would filter him out but silence equals assent.
But I don't have time to respond to each of his over the top
statements. Reminds me of some frequent posters I tracked down who
were very popular on right
Mike Lee wrote:
> > > The truth is that sufficient violence ends violence.
> >
> > That is true enough. But that only works when you can seal the
> > outlines of the geographical area and flood the same with your
> > troops.
>
> It also works if you are violent enough to convince the rest of th
Apologies for the delay, Gautam, but not only have I been snowed under
work, my computer crashed and had to be reformatted.
A lot has happened since I started writing this and instead of
re-writing the whole thing, I have just added comments after 'NB',
wherever a further comment seemed appropriat
At 10:16 PM 12/04/04 +, you wrote:
--===1943412254==
(I just received your message of 7 April.)
Keith Henson wrote
The model of evolutionary psychology ... is that any observed
feature in a species is either the direct result of the feature
being selected or it is a s
(I just received your message of 7 April.)
Keith Henson wrote
The model of evolutionary psychology ... is that any observed
feature in a species is either the direct result of the feature
being selected or it is a side effect of some feature that was
selected.
Yes, I understand.
At 03:14 PM 09/04/04 -0700, you wrote:
Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
snip
I think an argument can be made that - in terms of
expansion of genes and memes - war _is_ adaptive when
one culture is technologically more advanced than the
other; the above is rather like the MAD scenario
carrie
At 08:43 AM 09/04/04 -02-30, you wrote:
From: Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:12:43 -0400
We know
Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.psych.ucsb.edu/research/cep/primer.html
>
> "The goal of research in evolutionary
> psychology is to discover and
> understand the design of the human mind
> "In this view, the mind is a set of
> information-processing machine
From: Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:12:43 -0400
We know that you don't get wars if economic dis
>I didn't know that about the Ukrainian division, >interesting.
Now that I'm home (I posted the former message from work) I was able to look
at my references. Some of my figures were off: 100,000 volunteers turned out
for the division in April 1943; some 30,000 were found fit for service.
After tr
> From: Damon Agretto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2004 2:28 AM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror
>
>
> Andrew,
>
> Your allusion to Barbarossa is flawed. When the
> Germans rolled into the Soviet Union,
At 02:31 PM 07/04/04 -0400, you wrote:
Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
It's worst than that. The natives of Easter Island ... went at
each other with rocks ...
True, but that tells us nothing as to whether the capability of
developing `xenophobic memes' comes as the result of great
-Replying to 2 posts in this one-
> Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To add more fuel to the fire, anyone see this?:
>
> http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/
> Daily news and comments on the situation in post
> Saddam Iraq by an Iraqi dentist
>
> "Monday, April 05, 2004
> A coup d'etat is
Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
It's worst than that. The natives of Easter Island ... went at
each other with rocks ...
True, but that tells us nothing as to whether the capability of
developing `xenophobic memes' comes as the result of greater genetic
reproduction under some cir
> to enable more spying ... in effect, to enable a few to be more
> obvious about their xenophilia than before.)
^^
...
Did you mean "xenophobia" in those two places where you wrote
"xenophilia"?
No, I meant xenophilia: my question is whethe
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Gautam Mukunda wrote:
> Nope. I am glad that the majority of the Iraqis are
> not giving up hope and declaring an all out war on
> the coalition but that doesn't make my statement
> 'questionable'. Living with constant uncertainty
> *is* tirin
> This is why you don't recruit police from the place
> they are policing.
> They should have done something like have most of
> the police forces for
> shia areas be kurdish, the police forces for sunni
> be shias, and police
> forces for kurds be sunnis.
I really don't think that's a viable sol
> This is why you don't recruit police from the place they are
> policing.
> They should have done something like have most of the police
> forces for shia areas be kurdish, the police forces for sunni
> be shias, and police forces for kurds be sunnis.
That's worked out great in LA.
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
> > Law and order - They lived under a repressive state
> > but they were used to that set up. Currently, they
> > are not sure of who their enemies are or how to
> > reduce the risk factor in their lives. This
> > uncertainty can get tiring after an year.
>
> Perhaps, but t
> From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> You cannot equivocate between God
> and the Devil, as Catholics used to (still?) say.
> Just saying "grey area" over and over again like a
> mantra is not judgment - it is a substitute for
> judgment.
You're right. Dog killed dozens of orders of magn
> From: Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Al-Jazeera says that policemen in these cities have
> sided with the Shia insurgents, which doesn't come as
> a surprise to me since a large portion of the police
> forces in these areas were recruited from Shi'ite
> militias and we have talked about tha
At 10:00 AM 4/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
>Estimates before the war were of
>100,000 people dying every year as a result of Hussein's policy.
Allow me to add to that.
UNICEF estimated that 4,000 *extra* children per month were dying in Iraq
because of Saddam, over 1.1 million since 1991
At 05:01 PM 06/04/04 -0400, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
snip
By the way, evolutionary psychology tries to account for human psychology
traits that were adaptive for hunter gatherers. These traits may map into
modern conditions, but it's just happenstance. Some of them like
capture-bonding--bet
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To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: Winning the War on Terror
> Dan Minette wrote:
> >
> > - Origina
At 05:01 PM 06/04/04 -0400, you wrote:
Keith Henson wrote that times of trouble tend to make for a spread in
xenophobic notions. He said that idea came from evolutionary
psychology.
Regarding evolutionary psychology, Gautam Mukunda wrote
My problem ... It struck me as a "just so" story.
Thi
"Robert J. Chassell" wrote:
> (And I cam up with the notion that a society would permit those savy
> men to find out more about the enemy, to enable more spying, so as to
> be better able to kill them -- in effect, to enable a few to be more
> obvious about their xenophilia than before.)
Dan Minette wrote:
>
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> From: "Andrew Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 11:25 AM
> Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror
>
> &g
Andrew Paul wrote:
> You have lost me here. I either love Saddam and want him extradited to Australia
> so I can vote him in as President, or I want him drawn, torn and quartered in front
> of the
> Lincoln Memorial? Cant I have something in between? Like something sensible?
Doing it in front of
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To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Winning the War on Terror
> --- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, the war met that criterion. Further, it is
> clear to me that the number
> dying every year is less than it was before...far
> less. The US does have
> some moral responsibility for the civilians killed
> by the insurgents, but
> not the same type
Keith Henson wrote that times of trouble tend to make for a spread in
xenophobic notions. He said that idea came from evolutionary
psychology.
Regarding evolutionary psychology, Gautam Mukunda wrote
My problem ... It struck me as a "just so" story.
This is true. I like the notion of `xeno
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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:11 PM
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I missed writing a line. To clarify,
My suggestion was/is:
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Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror
> From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> snip
&g
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> Out of curiosity, you mentioned one year ago that if the number of dead
crosses t
At 08:55 AM 4/6/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Ray Ludenia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gautam Mukunda wrote:
>
> > At least the people
> > arrested aren't dropped into paper shredders now.
>
> Can you provide a (recent) reference to this having
> really happened? As far
> as I can find out, this
--- Andrew Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Dan Minette
> Firstly, I just cant subscribe to the view that I
> have to give wholesale support
> to the US actions or wear a "I Love Saddam" badge.
> Cant I be upset why whats happening
> in Iraq? Cant I ask questions without bing a
> traitor?
--- Andrew Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >--- Andrew Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> From: Gautam Mukunda
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gautam, its terrible what is happening in Iraq. I
> dont deny your feelings on the subject,
> and I dont
To add more fuel to the fire, anyone see this?:
http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/
Daily news and comments on the situation in post
Saddam Iraq by an Iraqi dentist
"Monday, April 05, 2004
A coup d'etat is taking place in Iraq a the moment.
Al-Shu'la, Al-Hurria, Thawra (Sadr city), and
Kadhimiya (a
Andrew,
Your allusion to Barbarossa is flawed. When the
Germans rolled into the Soviet Union, there were
plenty of people that welcomed them as liberators, not
the least of which were the Ukranians. Had the Germans
been less racist and didn't look at the Ukranians and
other ethnicities in the Sovi
From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
>What mild questioning? Your arguement that its hard to tell whether the
>people in Iraq are better off than under Hussein indicates that either
>Hussein wasn't such a bad fellow after all or the US is engaged in torture,
>wholesale murder, insti
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>--- Andrew Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >You _can_ make this argument, I guess, but actually
>> >_making_ it makes you an apologist for one of the
>> most
>> >brutal dictators in human history
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From: "Andrew Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror
> From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
From: Ray Ludenia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>If you say it often enough, it must be true?
Yea, Like Iraq=Osama Bin Laden
It amazes me how this has become an accepted truth.
Or Islam=Terrorist
Or Refugee = Terrorist
I suppose this sort of thing has a long history,
but I thought we were gr
--- Andrew Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >You _can_ make this argument, I guess, but actually
> >_making_ it makes you an apologist for one of the
> most
> >brutal dictators in human history - you have to
> >believe all of the propaganda that he
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
>> democracy one day in the future. However, I doubt
>> that makes living in such turmoil any easier on a
>> day-to-day basis.
>Again, _they_ don't think so. You don't think
>midnight raids and large-scale arrests happened
>before? Some t
--- Ray Ludenia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gautam Mukunda wrote:
>
> > At least the people
> > arrested aren't dropped into paper shredders now.
>
> Can you provide a (recent) reference to this having
> really happened? As far
> as I can find out, this is a furphy and has been
> shown to almo
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
> At least the people
> arrested aren't dropped into paper shredders now.
Can you provide a (recent) reference to this having really happened? As far
as I can find out, this is a furphy and has been shown to almost certainly
be propaganda.
See from a (not totally reliable
> From: Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> At 05:55 PM 03/04/04 -0600, The Fool wrote:
> > > From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> snip
>
> > > So how does that square with the idease expressed
> > > here? I'm not even sure, but evolutionary psychology
> > > is a very, very, very thin r
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Law and order - They lived under a repressive state
> but they were used to that set up. Currently, they
> are not sure of who their enemies are or how to
> reduce the risk factor in their lives. This
> uncertainty can get tiring after an year.
> From: Trent Shipley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2004 5:27 PM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: Re: Winning the War on Terror
>
>
> On Monday 2004-04-05 23:35, Andrew Paul wrote:
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Monday 2004-04-05 23:35, Andrew Paul wrote:
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Dan Minette wrote:
> And I hope they are better off, cos that seems to be only shred of
> justification left for this war, so it would be nice if we got that right.
Justifications:
-- Ene
Folks,
> Ah, but it is so easy to whip mobs into a murderous frenzy.
> At least in some parts of the world, including my own.
Sometimes, all it takes is the home team winning the SuperBowl.
A friend of mine -- then a videographer for KRON in San Francisco -- was
assigned to cover the crowds spil
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Dan Minette wrote:
>
> > Are you suggesting that the people of Iraq were better off
> before the
> > invasion. What measure would you give of that?
>
> I don't know if Andrew was suggesting that but that argument
> *can* be made:
>
Russell Chapman wrote:
> Oh, absolutely, the .22 would come out of the rubble and I would take my
> nationalistic fervour to the invaders. But I wouldn't wave pictures of
> the PM, or of the archbishop, or anything other than the Australian flag
> or the Southern Cross. But most assuredly, I w
> From: Russell Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Andrew Paul wrote:
> > It was a little confronting, I agree, but please, take a few steps
> > back from that big red button.
>
> Done - big red button = bad. No question.
>
Thankfully our red button leads to a damp squib that goes whizz i
Dan Minette wrote:
> Are you suggesting that the people of Iraq were better off before the
> invasion. What measure would you give of that?
I don't know if Andrew was suggesting that but that argument *can* be made:
Law and order - They lived under a repressive state but they were used to that
Andrew Paul wrote:
It was a little confronting, I agree, but please, take a few steps back from that big red button.
Done - big red button = bad. No question.
If, lets say, we were invaded by the newly elected Indonesian Islamic Government,
on the basis that we were supporting terrorism in the for
> When you invade peoples countries, they tend to get angry. We would get
just as angry. But somehow its
>not OK for them to do that? So when your children are killed by a
misplaced US bomb, you are just
>supposed to like it? Or perhaps in you grief and horror, you might fall
back on the only soc
> Changed my whole political views on the middle east in 2 minutes.
>
> Russell C.
This may provide even more food for thought:
http://victorhanson.com/Articles/Private%20Papers/Mirror_of_Fallujah.html
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From: Russell Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Trent Shipley wrote:
>> Whether the participants, as a population, are irrelligious or very religious
>> cannot be answered without more detailed information. Also, framing the
>> question an "either irreligious or ver
Trent Shipley wrote:
Whether the participants, as a population, are irrelligious or very religious
cannot be answered without more detailed information. Also, framing the
question an "either irreligious or very religious" is to put forth a false
dichotomy. Nevertheless, the participanting popu
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 09:41:53PM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
> * The `L' shaped ambush was one part.
>
> * A second part was having the bodies mutilated.
>
> * A third part was having enough of the worlds' press there so the
> mutilated bodies would be shown or there existance made
I wrote,
> Let's think of who may have planned and organized this. There
> are two possible groups:
> one is the military of the former government.
> The other group consists of people who want to recreate a caliphate.
Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Only two po
At 05:55 PM 03/04/04 -0600, The Fool wrote:
> From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
snip
> So how does that square with the idease expressed
> here? I'm not even sure, but evolutionary psychology
> is a very, very, very thin reed on which to rest an argument.
I tend to think extremism develops
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 07:48:35PM -0500, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
> Why do you even consider this question?
I consider a lot of questions. That is a good way to think about things
and try to understand. Why do you even consider why I consider the
question?
By the way, you may not be aware that
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To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Winning the War on Terror
>
> I think you mean about the same thing by "non-devout
William wrote:
If they called it Ning-Nang Poopy Shorts
It's Ning-Ning Poopy Shorts!
Blasphemer!!!
--
Doug
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Concerning the recent murder and mutilation of Americans in Fallujah,
Iraq, Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
A spur of the moment crime of rage and hate, but not premeditated,
or at least not carefully considered and planned?
Why do you even consider this question? My questions are
On 3 Apr 2004, at 8:43 pm, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 12:02:24PM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote:
Thus, in this sort of conversation distinguishing between the word
"Allah" and "God" appears as a strategy to mark Muslims as the enemy
Other, sort of like calling German's "Huns" or Japan
> From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> --- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I tend to doubt very many Brin-Lers--other than
> > certain Trolls--had
> > difficulty understanding you.
>
> I did, actually, and I have an extensive background in
> evolutionary psych.
>
> My problem wi
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 03:57:06PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
> So, a non-devout person growing up in a culture that is heavily
> influenced by Islam would think of desecrating bodies as an extreme
> action. Even if they hadn't read the Koran, and didn't even pray once
> a day, and just slept in o
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To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Winning the War on Terror
> Really? That is a rather complex line of thought to go throug
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 12:02:24PM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote:
> Thus, in this sort of conversation distinguishing between the word
> "Allah" and "God" appears as a strategy to mark Muslims as the enemy
> Other, sort of like calling German's "Huns" or Japanese "Yellow Japs"
> in WWII. (Alt
On Saturday 2004-04-03 04:48, Erik Reuter wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:04:03PM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote:
> > cannot be answered without more detailed information. Also, framing
> > the question an "either irreligious or very religious" is to put forth
> > a false dichotomy.
>
> That would
At 06:46 AM 03/04/04 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tend to doubt very many Brin-Lers--other than
> certain Trolls--had
> difficulty understanding you.
I did, actually, and I have an extensive background in
evolutionary psych.
My problem with it - from what
--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tend to doubt very many Brin-Lers--other than
> certain Trolls--had
> difficulty understanding you.
I did, actually, and I have an extensive background in
evolutionary psych.
My problem with it - from what I did understand - is
the problem shared with m
At 08:07 AM 4/2/2004 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Believe me, I am no "apologist for Muslim culture," I just know the
>> difference between a set of beliefs and an angry mob in a famously
>> violent city.
>
> We have angry mobs demonstrating in most major cities in the US
>every year.
Sur
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:04:03PM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote:
> cannot be answered without more detailed information. Also, framing
> the question an "either irreligious or very religious" is to put forth
> a false dichotomy.
That would be your framing, not mine. I tend to think of religiousnes
> From: Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> At 05:26 PM 02/04/04 -0800, you wrote:
> >I know what a meme is. I meant I couldn't understand what you were
saying.
>
> It would be hard to understand if you are not up on evolutionary
psychology.
I tend to doubt very many Brin-Lers--other than certa
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Henson
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 6:12 AM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror
>
> At 11:33 PM 01/04/04 -0800, Mike Lee wrote:
>
>
> From: Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I know what a meme is. I meant I couldn't understand what you were
saying.
In the past you've claimed to be more intelligent. The truth now
emerges...
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"As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit
atrocities." - Voltaire
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On Friday 2004-04-02 16:07, Erik Reuter wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 12:55:41PM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote:
> > The mutilation of American bodies was a very *intentional* insult.
> > The desecration needs to be understood from the perspective of
> > an honor system rather than any pure form of
essed
what that is, so I don't need to tell you.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:49 PM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: Re: Meta Level was Winning the Wa
The Fool wrote:
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> > From: Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > At 11:33 PM 01/04/04 -0800, Mike Lee wrote:
> >
> > >Note to Keith: saying "meme" a lot doesn't make you intelligible.
> >
> > Sorry. I didn't realize the term was unfamiliar within this group.
>
> Mr. Lee is a Troll. Apparent
On 3 Apr 2004, at 2:43 am, John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 05:26 PM 4/2/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote:
It takes 35 countries to get to the 90% level.
The top 9 countries have less than 60%. And of those top 9, in the
countries that have the second and third largest Muslim populations,
they
are relative
On 3 Apr 2004, at 2:26 am, Mike Lee wrote:
I know what a meme is. I meant I couldn't understand what you were
saying.
Nothing wrong with being stupid. Most people are. But top-posting is a
no-no on this list.
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William T Goodall
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Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk
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At 05:26 PM 4/2/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote:
>It takes 35 countries to get to the 90% level.
>The top 9 countries have less than 60%. And of those top 9, in the
>countries that have the second and third largest Muslim populations, they
>are relatively small minorities, roughly the same fraction a
> Umm, so just what was it that turned this lying, murdering
> pack of muslim assholes into such perfect poll subjects?
Right. They were lying about loving Osama just to...well, you fill in a
theory.
> Quote all the statistics basics you like, but I would have
> thought that we were all aware
> >
> >
> > This is exactly what a Kerry adminstration will sound like
> and feel like.
> > Ick. Poo. Barf.
> >
> > We're going to go kill a bunch of people in Fallujah in
> less than a week.
> > Friends of your friends.
> >
> > Useful idiot. Does it ring a bell? I thought not. Idiots
> have bad
> >Tell me, for entertainment purposes only, what percentage of Muslims
> >worldwide do *you* think got a cheap thrill out of 9-11? What
> >percentage think Osama is a hero? I came across with an indicative
> >poll. Now you put up or shut up.
>
> Based on conversations with Muslims and based on
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